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They 10 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:40.200 have some incredible new products like gummies, oils and much more. 11 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:47.840 Now enjoy this episode today. 12 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:49.960 I want to welcome Ben Rosenberg. 13 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:56.079 He is a holistic psychologist with extensive experience in life, death, business, 14 00:00:56.159 --> 00:01:01.119 and coaching people through difficult mental, physical, and spiritual duress. 15 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.599 He uses a different approach to mental well being and 16 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:09.000 physical standing. His passion is helping people free themselves from 17 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:12.879 the mental stresses and strains of everyday life by guiding 18 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:15.400 and teaching them to know themselves. 19 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.799 Ben. Welcome, How you doing, Chris? 20 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.120 Thank you for having me on. Excellent, Thank you, how 21 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:21.359 are you? 22 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:24.239 I'm excellent man. Thank you so much for coming on, 23 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.719 and thank you for being flexible with the date. I 24 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.920 love what you're doing and you were highly recommended by 25 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:36.000 our friend Brandon Thomas. Thanks again, Brandon. You're aa yeah, 26 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:40.319 you're a holistic psychologist and you're helping people discover what 27 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.120 we call their soul, our true selves. 28 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:43.920 Now. 29 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:47.920 Unfortunately in this spiritual community, there are those that are 30 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:53.719 seeking either notoriety, money and everything except genuinely helping people. 31 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:57.200 And you have a much different approach to what even 32 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.319 what we even consider is spirituality. And I can't wait 33 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.400 to get into your perception of what we call reality, 34 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:07.400 how this matrix works, and what we're really doing here. 35 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.120 But I think a good place to start would be 36 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.719 more about yourself, your background and what led you down 37 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:14.280 your path. 38 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:18.800 Great, Chris, I think that's that's a fantastic way to 39 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:24.639 start it, and some very logical questions, which is really 40 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:26.080 key at the moment now. 41 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:27.199 And this is the balance. 42 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:29.840 This is where inevitably with my clients, with the people 43 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.280 I help, it is finding. 44 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.560 That balance with a logical mind. 45 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:38.360 Because the mind is logical and we're always looking for 46 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:41.759 for answers to the questions and the soul, and this 47 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:45.599 is the mismatch. The soul is not logical, it's a feeling. 48 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.080 So what we've got we've got a split of duality 49 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:54.280 between the brain, which is the thoughts, beliefs, programming, trauma, 50 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.680 you name it, memories, and then we've got love, which 51 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.039 is who we are, which is fundamentally what. 52 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:05.000 The soul is. So excuse me, I've got a bloody 53 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:06.479 jobstick burning in the background this. 54 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:12.439 Yeah, So how did I get into it? Well, it 55 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:13.080 wasn't planned. 56 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:13.599 First of all. 57 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.879 Everything I talk about on my social media and just 58 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:20.400 to let you know, I've been bounded on TikTok six times, 59 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:22.479 removed off Twitter. 60 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:23.719 That means you're doing something right. 61 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.159 Well you'd like to think so right? If not, I'm 62 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:32.360 pissing in the wind. You know. An excuse my language, sorry, 63 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:37.479 but no, everything I talk about is from experience. You know. 64 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.159 I don't just wake up one day and say, hey, 65 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:41.000 do you know what, let's blow a hole in this 66 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.520 belief system or this program. 67 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.960 It's it's been quite systemic, and whether it's been through. 68 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:54.080 Addiction and addiction or belief systems, programming, trauma. Because ultimately 69 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:57.719 it's about you, Chris, it's about me as individuals. 70 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.520 It doesn't really matter what the fuck is going on 71 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.479 that side. In the world. It's about you. 72 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.599 And this is what I try and instill into others 73 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:10.199 is that don't worry about it, because this whole illusion 74 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:14.039 is about energy and it's about taking it's controlling us 75 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:17.879 and leading us down in the merry path of bullshit. 76 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:23.759 Right now, have you arians any anything profound to lead you, 77 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.160 to help lead you down the path you're on, help 78 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.879 kind of light a fire under your your spiritual awareness? 79 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:35.519 Yeah, yeah, great question. Okay, First of all, I went 80 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:39.199 to a very I was indoctrinated into a very Christian school, 81 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:41.360 so I kind of religion. 82 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:43.240 It never felt right. I mean, as a kid, you 83 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.600 go into a church and you just think, fucking hell, 84 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:46.920 this is weird. I don't like this. 85 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.680 You grew up Catholic, so I got it. Yeah, oh dude. 86 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:50.319 Yeah yeah right. 87 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:52.879 And you know it's like you can talk about the 88 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:57.040 priests and shit like that, but that's just another rabbit hole. 89 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:57.279 Right. 90 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.560 But so having gone through that kind of sp that 91 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:04.360 Christianity thing, knowing it was fundamentally a big pile of 92 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:06.639 bullshit because it didn't feel like it just felt like control. 93 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.839 But I was always quite obsessed with the paranormal as 94 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.600 a youngster, you know, the X Files, Chris Carlaton very much. 95 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.079 He got to a lot of us, didn't you know. 96 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:23.120 So there was always that underpinning question which just niggles 97 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.480 away at the psyche is what is what is real? 98 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:29.879 What is reality? So leading answer your questions. Sorry, I'm 99 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.759 a bit of a merry go around here. But when 100 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:37.639 I was twenty I got in touch with them, a 101 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:41.920 company called Most Haunted and Most Haunted they are a 102 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.800 paranormal investigation group that televised it throughout the UK. 103 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:47.839 And because the place I. 104 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:50.920 Was working at the time, my family's hotel, is an 105 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:52.439 old ten entry manor. 106 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.759 House, I got a lot of history and there was 107 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.480 a lot of reports of ghosts. So my step into 108 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.800 spirituality isn't all the love and light and chakras and 109 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.240 all this crap that we're seeing at the moment. It 110 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:08.519 was how spirits. 111 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.600 The fundamental core value of spirituality in respect communicating with 112 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:18.959 the dead. So Most Haunted they sent out a group 113 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.160 of investigators just to do a preliminary check. And their 114 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.480 initial response was, you know, we're too busy, We've done 115 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.439 their locations, but you know. 116 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.040 We'll come and have a look and you know hear 117 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:32.680 you anyway, So the first experience that I had. 118 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.839 This medium and this parapsychologist came out and they did 119 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:38.839 this investigation for a few hours. 120 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:43.680 Round property and would you believe fuck all happened? Right? 121 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.480 No activity? You know, you're like, come on, guys, don 122 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:48.519 ghosts do something. 123 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.519 And this little twenty twenty year old me bit naive, 124 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:54.959 and the psychic says, right, okay, let's them do a 125 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:56.639 seance in the oldest part of the building. 126 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:02.240 So we do this, and all I can say is 127 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:04.920 is the most prominent experience that I've ever had in 128 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.680 my life. So we're doing the seance and parapsychologists was 129 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.800 there as well, and obviously he's very logical. He's looking 130 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.639 for reasons like oh, there's a window that's opened, or 131 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:19.399 the pipes creaking. And we start going into this seance 132 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:22.800 and the next thing I know, this huge blue orb 133 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:24.360 like a ball. 134 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:28.560 Comes up passed through me. On doing so, I came 135 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.639 out of body, right, My spirit, which is the electrical body, 136 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.720 came out and I was standing on my shoulder by 137 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.680 here looking down at myself, at which point my face 138 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.879 had transfigured into this guy with a beard. 139 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.800 Right now, dude, this is where it gets really interesting. 140 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:48.000 Right. 141 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.279 It's because all that you can hear when you're out 142 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:55.839 of body like that is this electrical kind of staticky interference. 143 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:01.120 And as I'm theiving. 144 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:06.319 Receiving from outside of the body, that the psychic parapsychologists, 145 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.399 who were both both about fifty years of age at 146 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:12.319 the time, they're conversing with me, who's not me but 147 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:16.279 this spirit who has come into my body, and then 148 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.040 just discussing, talking, talking, talking, and I don't know what's 149 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:20.519 going on. 150 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:22.240 It felt like an eternity. 151 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.360 And then probably within about let's say five minutes, I 152 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:31.560 came back into body and this blue swirling orb like 153 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.639 the size of a soccerble just kind of came out 154 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:35.600 and just disappeared. 155 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:35.799 Then. 156 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:40.879 So sorry for the long story, but that was my baptism. 157 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:45.399 Now what were was being communicated from this being to 158 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:47.120 the others that were there with you. 159 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.120 Do you know what they can't remember? 160 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.000 This is the really freaky thing right afterwards. Now, now, 161 00:08:54.080 --> 00:09:00.240 these two being on numerous location visits, and they both 162 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.399 said immediately after the hair was all then their eyes 163 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.679 were like this and they're like, we have never experienced 164 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:10.399 anything like that in the last twenty years of doing this. 165 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:14.039 I was like okay, because there's me thinking, hey, this 166 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:21.159 is normal. They then said there was a direction kind 167 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:24.799 of given to them and told to them, but they 168 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:30.559 couldn't remember, so it was it was very peculiar. 169 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.480 Yeah, man, that's incredible. 170 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:37.480 So what ultimately, you know, led you to get into 171 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:42.120 what you consider psychology In holistic psychology. 172 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:43.919 I'm sorry, okay, no, no, no, no problem. 173 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:47.440 And well everything is divided in concris you know, like 174 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.480 people will go and see a shrink and that shrink 175 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.639 will just you know, kind of go through the run 176 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.080 of the middle of the stuff and just say, look, 177 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:55.960 you know, come back for another session, come back from 178 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:56.679 another session. 179 00:09:57.679 --> 00:09:59.600 And more to the point, they're trained. 180 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.440 Within the cys them, right, So they're never going to 181 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:07.360 help people perceive outside of that box because they're trained 182 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:12.039 within the box. So the holistic side then is probably 183 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:15.360 more of a natural, organic approach to it as opposed 184 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.519 to going through you know, the system. 185 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.279 Let's say, could you explain a little bit for the 186 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:24.039 audience that maybe may not be familiar with it. What 187 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.840 what does this entail in holistic psychology? 188 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:31.799 Okay, well, I suppose you could. You could call. 189 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:39.480 It it's healing people's minds, helping heap people's beef systems programs. 190 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:46.240 And this is across the whole board, whether it's business relationships, god, 191 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:51.960 gnostic stuff, agnostic stuff, whatever it might be, it's all 192 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:53.919 compartmentalizing people's minds. 193 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:55.159 Right. 194 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:58.879 So fundamentally, what that's doing, Chris, is taking people's power, 195 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:04.200 their energy, the belief systems away from themselves. So what 196 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.559 I'm doing is helping people reroot this energy back in 197 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.320 themselves into believing in themselves. 198 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:13.240 Now, when we're looking at when you're talking. 199 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:17.200 About our true selves are our soul? What is it? 200 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:22.080 What is your understanding of this? My current understanding, which 201 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.960 could change at any time, is that we're all part 202 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:30.320 of this one energy source that has kind of fractalized 203 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:35.720 and become an infinite number of smaller consciousness from this 204 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:39.720 main source consciousness. Would you agree with that overall analysis 205 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:40.000 of it? 206 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.200 Do you know what I would? 207 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:48.360 I would, and I suppose yeah, Chris, absolutely yes, in 208 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:53.799 respects of where we are now and what's actually being 209 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:59.039 projected at two different things. Now, this system works on copying, right, 210 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:02.320 It's like a mimic. Did you ever see John Carpenter's 211 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:02.639 The Thing? 212 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:08.000 Yeah? Yeah, okay, so that thing mimics people. Yeah, the 213 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:08.960 thing mimics people. 214 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:14.039 So single cell organism which copies people think of that system, 215 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:17.799 imagine that, but on the huge scale of everything. So 216 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.480 let's say Chris, you, for example, your soul who you 217 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.759 are authentically. 218 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:24.519 Underneath within you. 219 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:30.240 Chris's spirit is this electrical copy of you, right, So 220 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:35.559 you're like, yeah, you're like that copy of your physical body. 221 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:38.279 So when you die, you know, I'm not wishing it 222 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:42.080 upon you crytical of course, but when you die, Chris, 223 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:46.759 the physical is buried or cremated, Chris, the spirit and 224 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:51.879 consciousness goes into a different spectrum of light. Chris, the 225 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:57.960 soul gets taken away completely with different location. So it's 226 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:59.559 like almost like a three way system. 227 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.960 So you coming into body, you then copied, and then 228 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:06.720 that copy goes into a recycling bin, let's call it, 229 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:09.799 which is just a different spectrum of light where all 230 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.360 these spirits of different embodiments exist. 231 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.159 We're kind of looking at the nature of reality and 232 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:20.000 what this is and what we're doing here. Let's go 233 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:25.039 over two basic overall ideas of what this could possibly 234 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:29.399 be about. One is that this what we call reality 235 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.720 is for us. It's it's for us to grow, for 236 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.039 our consciousness to evolve to us, for us to evolve 237 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:41.240 spiritually and gain a better understanding and self awareness, and 238 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:45.600 the other is that, but it's been hijacked by something 239 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:49.360 more malevolent to try and keep us from finding out 240 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.879 these things about ourselves and who we are and what 241 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:56.919 we're doing here. What is your idea of what this is, 242 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:58.000 what this reality is? 243 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:02.080 Okay? Right? 244 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:08.000 Let the whole evolved thing is in the way I 245 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:10.919 perceive this and the way I feel it is. The 246 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:19.120 whole evolve context is the machine, right, So machines evolve. Now, 247 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:23.240 your soul, my soul. Everyone's souls come from the creator. 248 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:30.159 The creator is perfect as far as the form, the soul, 249 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:34.360 the energy, So the soul is perfect. It never needed 250 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.879 to evolve. But you see what happens that soul comes 251 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.519 into body. Now, if we didn't have all this programming, 252 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.080 all this trauma, you know, unlet's look at kids, the 253 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:47.159 patterning with children that are abused. All this nasty shit 254 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:51.120 happens when we're young, and that's all I design. Right, 255 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.799 So we then turn out to be serial killers, rapists, murderers, 256 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.360 whatever it might be. Not that I'm saying that we are, 257 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:02.039 but you know, on the biggest spec so those impressions 258 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:05.519 left on us as children define us to become part 259 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.440 of this system abused terrorists, so abuse people, abuse people. 260 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:13.759 But if you can wipe that away and just try 261 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:15.879 and envisage you, Now this is the really difficult part, 262 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:20.879 is envisage your world where trauma, all this horror programming, 263 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:24.600 it never existed. We would still grow up to be 264 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:29.320 these pure, amazing beings, you know, from from the source, 265 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:34.000 which is you know, inside of us. So yeah, as 266 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.320 far as you say, yeah, it got hijacked, my perception 267 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.480 of reality is that a long time ago, I'm talking 268 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:42.759 pre Maria, you know, a long long time ago, we 269 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:46.799 had this system. It was a sol system, not so 270 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.799 larst system, but a soul system which we would come 271 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:54.480 in and experience love in the physical. But somewhere along 272 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.519 the line it became hijacked, and that hijacking, this this 273 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:03.080 the thing mimicking started to take over. And that's the 274 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.879 feeling like it is that's been going on for a 275 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:06.279 very very long time. 276 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:12.120 Now. Most of the the individuals in the spiritual community, 277 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:14.559 not all of them, but there's there's a large amount 278 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:18.799 that believe that duality is necessary, that all the evil 279 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.120 that we're facing right now in the most disgusting stuff 280 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.039 is something we chose to incarnate into and all is 281 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.440 part of our growing experience, which you know, it's all 282 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:31.799 a consideration to me. I don't you know, I'm not 283 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.200 really going to be set in any certain belief system 284 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.559 because I have no idea. But I want to get 285 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.720 your thoughts on when you know people in the spiritual 286 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:43.480 community are saying that it's all kind of pre planned, 287 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:44.759 we chose these paths. 288 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:45.679 What do you think about that? 289 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:51.440 No, that's bullshit, bullshit for people to give in, to 290 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.639 accept and to say, oh, I give into the universe. 291 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:56.720 This is fine. You know, I'll let this happen to me. 292 00:16:57.360 --> 00:16:59.960 Do you honestly not you, but I mean, anybody watched. 293 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.000 Do you honestly believe that you signed up to get molested, 294 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.519 to get raped, to go into slavery, to what your 295 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.920 family die? You know, it doesn't make sense. You know 296 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.839 that there's nothing loving or nurturing within that experience. It's 297 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.319 just trauma after trauma. 298 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:25.359 Now, when we're talking about these people in certain aspects 299 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:27.960 of the spiritual community that are I guess we could 300 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:32.799 say channelers, and they they're seemingly getting information from other 301 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:37.359 places other than themselves, and it's profound information and it's 302 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.039 to you know, enlighten humanity and help humanity. But they 303 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.480 have these ideas, like we were just talking about, do 304 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.839 you think that they're actually channeling something that just may 305 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:51.279 not have our best interest in mind? And this seems 306 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:53.599 to be going on on a very large scale. 307 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.160 Big time, big timekers. 308 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.640 So and let's take let's take this back to consciousness, 309 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:05.119 Chris m Consciousness is They've done numerous studies on it, 310 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:07.799 and what they found is that and I haven't probably 311 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.079 talked about this on branding show as well, is that 312 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:16.640 consciousness is electromagnetic. So we live in with this electromagnetic dome, 313 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:23.119 this this illusion, this system and consciousness is ultimately a 314 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:30.880 form of control, like the borg. Yeah, I've starting so 315 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.039 everybody becomes part of the borg. And if you look 316 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.880 watch channelers, they all pretty much say the same stuff. 317 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.960 It's it's all very repetitive. It's like, oh, oh, loved ones, 318 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.039 dear loved ones, we are coming be blessed in the 319 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.000 time knowing that, you know, and I could just I 320 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:48.519 think I could just make up any ship now and 321 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.359 just say I channeled it, you know. But it's the 322 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:55.599 same thing again, it's taking people's power away from themselves, 323 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:59.799 because we have the power as individuals, you know. But 324 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:01.920 people say, oh no, no, no, no, no, it's all good. 325 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:05.000 Thedens have got this, and the analogons have got this, 326 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:08.599 you know, and archangel Michael he's coming, you know, it's 327 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:12.039 all good, dude. Yeah. 328 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:14.960 Now do you think what this is that that was 329 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.519 originally hijacked was like you said, it was something for 330 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.279 us originally to just be able to experience physical love 331 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:24.480 that we could incarnate into. 332 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:25.599 Is that what you were saying? 333 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:32.839 Yeah, yeah, pretty much, because obviously when we're out of form, 334 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.640 you know, you can't hug somebody, can't make love with somebody, 335 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:42.480 you can't kiss, touch, experience maybe being a different animal. 336 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:46.559 Now I'm okay, imagine being an elephant. Okay, choosing to 337 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:51.799 be an elephant, but not with the modern day of 338 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.640 hunting and you know, tusk herding or not, so you 339 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:02.599 know what I mean. Yeah, So seriencing that physicality within 340 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:05.799 a different embodiment, Yeah, very much. 341 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:06.880 So. 342 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.359 Now, all the information that you're sharing and today and 343 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:14.240 that you've been sharing with people, is this something that you, 344 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.640 I guess would say, had a download about. Was it 345 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:22.519 from meditation, research or combination. Where would you say all 346 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.960 this knowing comes from about who we are and what 347 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:26.640 we're doing here? 348 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:31.440 Okay, well look, do you know what the biggest question 349 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:32.559 I get is source? 350 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.799 Trust me? Bro? Yeah, And do you know what? 351 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.039 I can bleet on as much as I want people, 352 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.240 And it's down to people whether they want to feel. 353 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:45.720 And this is the real big difference, Chris, is that 354 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.799 I don't channel, I don't meditate, I don't do any 355 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.200 of the spiritual practices. Yes, I used to research, right. 356 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.240 I spent a lot of time doing the research and 357 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.599 the spiritual stuff. But when I stopped smoking weed, right, 358 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:02.759 And this is for me, this is the this is 359 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.039 the jackpot I stopped smoking with after twenty years waking 360 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:06.880 and baking. 361 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:10.920 And everything. I just heard my song. 362 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:13.599 I felt myself and my soul was like, thank you, 363 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.880 thank you, We're back. And since then it's just been 364 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:20.839 like that. And I've just been pretty much a sledgehammer. 365 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:25.039 It's just a pull from my heart my mind. 366 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:27.519 That's it very interesting. 367 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:30.480 Now I want to get into the what has hijacked 368 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:34.039 our reality? What is it something that we would consider 369 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:39.480 as demonic or archons or artificial intelligence? What are we 370 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:41.960 looking at when we're looking at these entities. 371 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:49.319 Well, so the whole illusion that we live in is electromagnetic. 372 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:55.960 Let's say God and say of the same thing, okay, 373 00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:58.400 And this is the duality. This is the good and 374 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:02.200 bad duality that we have been insected with. Like you know, 375 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.279 when we used to watch Tom and Jerry or cartoons 376 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.400 as kids, right, they'd always be the devil and the 377 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.599 angel come up, right, So immediately from birth it's kind 378 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:13.319 of in and then you go to church and then 379 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:16.759 it's bashed into that demons and angels and. 380 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.880 Good and bad. The whole duality black and white. Black 381 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:23.680 and white is Masonic, right, that is the Mason's coloring. 382 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:29.000 So the whole duality illusion, Teather's in with an agenda 383 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:32.839 which has been forming for a two thousand years probably longer. 384 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:39.200 So we're going back to your point about these entities. Well, right, 385 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:40.359 so now that we know that. 386 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:45.599 Consciousness is is basically like an artificial signal, which isn't 387 00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:49.680 necessarily your soul. It's AI. Let's call it AI. 388 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.720 But it's always been broadcasting and it's been here the 389 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:55.079 whole time, working. 390 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:58.640 Through our minds. Now, how many people out there talk 391 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:00.960 shit about themselves. They look at the moon like that, Fuck, 392 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.680 I'm a loser. I hate myself this that. Why would 393 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.079 you say that about yourself? Nobody would in their right mind. 394 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:09.839 And then the little monkeys start playing in the head saying, oh, 395 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:12.640 you're not good enough, you're this, you're that. That's not you, 396 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.319 that's not any of us, that's the system trying to 397 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:19.759 keep us very much kind of daunting us. 398 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.319 Or these were we would consider physical entities in any 399 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:27.160 any reality or on any spectrum. Or is this pure 400 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.480 electromagnetic energy that we're dealing with. 401 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:37.680 Honestly, there's probably a combination of a couple actually, Chris, 402 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:44.880 majority of programs, right, So we call the electromagnetic frequencies 403 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.240 just like what you were saying, but think of them 404 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:52.279 as far as programs. So so like somebody says, oh 405 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:57.839 I channeled in you know Ali Baba or some spiritualistic 406 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:03.000 first of all, how do you know? And this is 407 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:05.000 this is the point I always get to with channelis 408 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.960 they've got nothing to confirm who they are communicating with. 409 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.839 And this is the very fine line between as a media, 410 00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:18.119 when you communicate with a past one, you will have 411 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.319 some point of reference to say, look, you know uncle 412 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:24.480 Johnny died and he gave you his Rolex watch and 413 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.319 the two were stuck up backwards, so we know it 414 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:28.839 was a knockoff Rolex and you had a. 415 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:29.720 Good joke about it. 416 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.559 And the client can say yeah, fuck, actually, yeah that's right, Yeah, 417 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:36.039 look at it. I'm even watching it now, so I'm 418 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:39.680 wearing it now. So you've got that confirmation of something 419 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:42.519 that has passed because they can bring it back into 420 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:45.920 physical and say, yeah, this happened. But when people start 421 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:50.079 saying Archangel Gabriel or the Pleadiens or the Andromedins or 422 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:55.799 fucking whatever faction, that is source trust me, bro, you know. 423 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.240 Right, Yeah, I've had my own what I want. It's 424 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:06.319 considered extraterrestrial contact, then understood as spirit guides or higher self, 425 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:09.200 and now you know, I'm kind of considering it all 426 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.720 my higher self for all part of me guiding myself. 427 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:14.759 And do you think that's across the board with Like 428 00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.400 all paranormal experiences, they seem to be very personal for 429 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:21.440 each person they You know, we don't have many group 430 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:25.000 like paranormal experiences. Most of them are, you know, when 431 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:28.359 the person's by themselves and they get profound insights from it. 432 00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:31.599 Usually if it's not something that's bs do you think 433 00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.920 that this is us from outside kind of pushing ourselves 434 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.480 in a certain direction or communicating. 435 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.319 And do you know what, Chris, having experienced the things 436 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.480 that you're talking about as well. And this is the 437 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:51.839 really difficult part, is that so when you say higher self, 438 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.480 when people say higher self, subliminally, what that does to 439 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.440 the mind and to the psyche is telling you that 440 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:00.079 you're not good. 441 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:06.119 Enough, you're lower, gotcha, right, So it's suggestive programming, sir. 442 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:07.839 If you look back. 443 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.599 And research who introduced all of these spiritual practices, these 444 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:19.079 higher self stuff. Helena Blavatski, Helena, Yeah, familiar with her? Yeah, yeah, Okay. 445 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:23.359 Now Blovatski was kind of coincided with crowding at the 446 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.839 same time, and they both entered creemsonry. Now we're bringing 447 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.559 the Freemasons, all the narratives which are all starting to 448 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.519 come to light at the moment. So and then what sorry, 449 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:36.880 I will get to the answer that we'll try and 450 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:38.000 give you my answer. 451 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.960 But thanks. 452 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.599 So if we look at different civilizations, right, we don't 453 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.279 really know fuck all about different civilizations, only what we're told. 454 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.039 So what I base my pretense on is that all 455 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.359 those different civilizations had a repeating pattern that we are 456 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:01.400 going through in this civilization. And what's happening is Helena Blovatski. Okay, 457 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.000 she's gone over and become a mystic from India, and 458 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.920 she's brought all that stuff over from the Sanskrit whatever. 459 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:10.880 But that was still a system of control with gods 460 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.960 and goddesses and deities. So it's it's been pulled across 461 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.279 again for another element of control. 462 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:18.680 So the self thing. 463 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.079 I used to tryl to my higher self as well, 464 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:24.920 but bad shit happened in my life, really bad shit, 465 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.200 you know, a whole host of things. And when I 466 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.160 started disconnecting from that and actually rerooting it back in me, 467 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.079 good things started to happen. 468 00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:40.839 So answering the question, Chris, they are personal each of us. 469 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:42.039 It is a journey. 470 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:46.759 The hardest part is breaking through that personal experience and 471 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:49.319 actually saying, do you know what, maybe that personal experience, Okay, 472 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.440 it was quite weird and exciting in many respects, but 473 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.559 maybe it wasn't good for me or my mental health 474 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:56.480 or whatever it might be. 475 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:02.200 You know, you mentioned the times freemasons. Now I'm of 476 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.160 the mind that there are high level if you want 477 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:09.160 to call them secret societies, groups that do control our 478 00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.920 perception in many ways. I don't know if the lower 479 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.960 levels work, or if the lower levels even know that 480 00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.480 the higher levels exist, and if it's all compartmentalized. But 481 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.640 do you think that there are indeed controllers of our 482 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.880 reality that may have associations with what we would consider 483 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.720 secret societies. 484 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:33.599 Without a shadow of goodall? Absolutely, I'll be more. 485 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.759 Than happy to send you This is something which was 486 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.039 written back in nineteen ninety five, and it's this particular 487 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.400 and I'll send you the link and if you want 488 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.200 to leave it, maybe a few viewers as well in 489 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.440 the comments. But if you just read this entire page. Now, 490 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.559 I went through this probably about six seven years ago 491 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:55.759 and didn't pay any attention to it, and it popped 492 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.119 up a few days ago because I think I bookmarked 493 00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.440 it somewhere. I was like, what's this at it? And 494 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.640 I was like, holy shit, everything we are seeing at 495 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.759 the moment was not I'm not saying predicted, was actually 496 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:12.440 said back back here. So yeah, to answer your question, yeah, 497 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.680 there are secret societies that we don't even know anything 498 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.160 about as well, because it's not very secret if we 499 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:17.880 know about. 500 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.039 And they all interweave. 501 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:27.440 So whether it's illuminaty masonry, the green dragons, the white dragons, 502 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.680 whatever they might, they all interlink and they've all got 503 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:35.400 one agenda, and that agenda is controlled. But like you said, 504 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.960 they're compartmentalized. So the lower lower memberment was maybe I'm 505 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:43.079 not o FA or familiar with what the true agenda is. 506 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:51.319 So yeah, yeah, there's definitely what we consider layers and 507 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:56.599 layers of reality and programming going on here. First of all, 508 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.920 is there a way to completely break free from what 509 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.440 we're considering this kind of trapped reality that we're in. 510 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:13.119 Yeah, my wholehearted feeling is that yes we can, and 511 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:13.799 I've come. 512 00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:14.519 Up to that by. 513 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.359 My soul is quite adamant in this and respects that 514 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.720 by taking back our authentic state, who we truly are, right, 515 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:29.000 and that is even though I'm forty now, it's just 516 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.319 to be that kid that I was, the authentic state. 517 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.319 If we are that much of a threat as children, right, 518 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.799 because we're untapped, because we're not conformed to the system, 519 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.279 because we're not program traumatized, we get back to that 520 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.359 state of being, and that state of being is that 521 00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:51.279 pure soul because everything is is energy, right, So by 522 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.599 us taking back the love that we are. It's the magnetism. 523 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.880 And now, if we want to strip everything right back 524 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:03.680 to what this is about, it's about electricity versus magnetism. Magnetism, 525 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.160 so to swing it, we get more magnetic and we 526 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:10.920 function it up. 527 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:16.000 What do you think is happening when we experience things 528 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:21.000 like synchronicity or what some considered manifestation where we're just 529 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.720 kind of thinking about things and acting in a positive 530 00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.319 manner and living our lives accordingly, and you know, wonderful 531 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:29.559 things seemingly happen. 532 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.599 So there's no such thing as coincidence, right, And I 533 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:39.039 believe that. I believe that. 534 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:45.680 However, we are in a time where we know full 535 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.960 well that the technology that we have right on the 536 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:54.079 surface planet surface, the tech that we have is miles behind. 537 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.519 Are you still there, Chris. 538 00:31:58.759 --> 00:31:59.440 Yeah, I'm here. 539 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:00.759 Can you hear me? 540 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:02.240 Interesting? 541 00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:02.799 Hello? 542 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:03.440 Can you hear me? 543 00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:06.160 I don't know if that's me with you? It's frozen 544 00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:10.400 up right? Sorry? Cool? 545 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.960 Okay, So we on the on the planet, on the surface, 546 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.599 we we have technology which is way way behind what 547 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.880 we know exists. So if we can quantify or take 548 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:29.160 ourselves out of the bubble and just is there not 549 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:32.440 a way that we could actually be be manipulated by 550 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.160 technology in order for us to see stuff, you know, 551 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.759 and if there's that many numbers that we're in this 552 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.720 closed roop system that we're now starting to pay attention 553 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.559 to double one, double one, double two, double two, whatever, 554 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:47.920 But now it's to question it. 555 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.680 Right, Yes, what do you think that that is? When 556 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.039 you know, just you mentioned numbers as an example, is 557 00:32:56.119 --> 00:33:00.440 that basically seeing through the programming and you know, whenever 558 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.559 you get more and more you kind of means that 559 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:06.279 you're becoming more aware of the hidden reality. 560 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:13.160 Yes, and it becomes an obsession. Right, how many people? Okay, 561 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.880 so you've met a few people that are obsessed with them? 562 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.480 Oh my angel number is this? 563 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:19.039 Yeah? 564 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:19.599 Yeah, you know. 565 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.799 And look, I'm not criticizing, right, having been there myself. 566 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.720 It's another layer of control of the mind because then 567 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.400 you've become obsessive with looking for these synchronicities and then 568 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.599 you see them all well it just happened, but and 569 00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.160 then it takes over your life. Numbers you like, look 570 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.880 at these numbers, You're like, who the fuck cares? 571 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:44.400 They're just numbers. Yeah, that's a bit cynical with me. 572 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.880 Sorry, No, it's all good. Yeah. 573 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.359 I love getting understanding of this stuff. 574 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.759 That's h you know, I love your perception of this 575 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.799 And I think that we need more people thinking like 576 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.160 this instead of the traditional spiritual camps that really get 577 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.480 us aware and have gotten us nowhere since the beginning 578 00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.920 of time. And like you said, it all seems to 579 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.440 be just in version of reality, spiritual traps things to 580 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.519 keep us thinking and going within, which is the probably 581 00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.599 most important thing that we could be doing. And you 582 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:18.239 mentioned the the the hidden programs we have running. I 583 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:22.519 want to get into that, uh, to deep program ourselves. 584 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.960 Like I said, there's layers and layers. What do you 585 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.039 think is some of the first layers of programming we 586 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.360 should be starting to look at when we're kind of 587 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.239 just waking up. 588 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:35.840 You know, wow, that's a great question, man. That is 589 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.280 it's deep because each of us, just like you said before, 590 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.480 we've all got our individual experiences which kind of lead 591 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.920 us to this pinnacle week now of awakening. So it's 592 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:49.159 it's really difficult. 593 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:54.559 Some people, they could have been really he heavily indoctrinated 594 00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:01.880 through Christianity, Catholicism, Jewish, whatever it might be. That is 595 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.440 probably the biggest one in America, I think for you 596 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.760 folks over there, because it is so well and it's 597 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:08.400 more man. 598 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.679 It's an as you name it. You guys have got 599 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:13.159 so much to contend with over there. 600 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:20.880 Yeah, so yeah, that I think it predates that as well. 601 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:27.559 Looking at family trauma, family trauma is very real, neglect, 602 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.119 you name it, a whole host of different stages. 603 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.800 Now what do you where do you recommend people to 604 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:41.360 start when they're like I said, when they're just awakening things. 605 00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.400 I remember it was very difficult for me. I lost 606 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.320 a lot of friends and family members because you know, 607 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.920 I thought that I had to tell everybody things I 608 00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.400 was learning and every the world needed to know, but 609 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.440 really no one was ready to hear any of it. 610 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.519 But what could you recommend for people who are just 611 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.079 learning about the hidden reality that we're in. 612 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.199 Well, that's that's great. 613 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.039 And christ you know what, you are one of millions 614 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:13.039 that has lost our old friendships on family that probably 615 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:17.599 you know, in this kind of bubbling themselves. And what 616 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.719 I try and promote is is sole to sole connection, right, 617 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.599 is people reconnecting because that's what we need to do 618 00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.519 because we have all become separated, segregated with all our 619 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.960 devices and trying to break past that. 620 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.719 But probably. 621 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:40.280 It's really difficult because everything that we know is because 622 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.119 that's what they want us to know. So are you 623 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:48.280 familiar with revelation of the method? H yeah, yeah, okay, 624 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.199 So revelation of the method if you think of it 625 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:55.000 like Chinese whispers. Right, So somebody might just learn about 626 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.360 the reptilians whatever, right, I guess all to trust me grow, 627 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:03.039 but the reptilians that site and then before you know it, 628 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.599 it's creating a domino effect. So they've gone out and 629 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.599 told that their audience of ten thousand people about these reptilians. 630 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.880 Those people are thinking about it. They're giving energy to 631 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:14.239 this belief system. 632 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.920 So what I'd said people to observe if you're going 633 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:22.840 through an awakening, if you're questioning reality is observed, don't 634 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:24.440 necessarily buy into it. 635 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:28.159 Stay on the fence and just perceive it. 636 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.000 And I knew I was doing that for a reason. 637 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.480 Now what you mentioned thought forms and giving energy to 638 00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:39.519 two things that we are are constantly running through our minds. 639 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:43.159 Do you think that it is possible to manifest something 640 00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:47.280 into reality kind of physically like an aggrigorb, just by 641 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:53.679 giving it constant thought. 642 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:53.719 Oh I'm going to twist this. 643 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.719 What do you think, Chris, I've man I've experienced it, 644 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.199 so I'm not sure what's going on there, but yeah 645 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:01.760 I think so. 646 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:06.000 Yeah, okay, right, let me reframe this for you. Then, Okay, 647 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:11.480 if you conform to the system, right, the system gives 648 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:13.960 you a little tap on the head and says, there 649 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:18.280 you go. There's this little prize you've manifested. Well done, 650 00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:21.920 Now keep going. So then right, you see where I'm 651 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.079 going at. So then you keep feeding the system, the system. 652 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:25.880 Gives you a bigger price. 653 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.760 Well done, or souls are now in trench within this 654 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.280 this harvest. So I used to build a manifestation years ago. 655 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.480 I don't give it my power. Now, whatever I get, 656 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:41.800 I get because I'm just being me. I'm not putting 657 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:48.159 intention into it. I'm just being authentic, you know. But 658 00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.679 yeah I had I had a few manifestation things which 659 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:55.719 work for me, you know, seven years ago. But yeah, no, 660 00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:56.519 not anymore. 661 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:01.280 Now. You also talk about reprogramming your mind. Find we 662 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.599 could get into some basic ways that people can just 663 00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.760 start to reprogram their daily lives and then everything that 664 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:11.480 they're doing. Uh, I know that for me, Uh, it's 665 00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:15.000 it's it's of course an ongoing process. But in the beginning, 666 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.880 one of the biggest things that I had to to 667 00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:22.840 break my program is feeling bad about not being part 668 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.920 of the everyday reality and participating and working and slaving 669 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.760 like normal people. When I stopped my job and started 670 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.400 doing this full time, I actually felt bad at times, like, man, 671 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.800 why I should be out there working and slaving and 672 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.320 you know, being subjected to crap all day. But you know, 673 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.159 I think that was one of the hardest things for 674 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:42.960 you to get past. 675 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:44.000 What do you think about that? 676 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.840 Yes, I love our slavery, I know. 677 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.280 Right, it's like so ingraved in it. Get back in 678 00:39:53.320 --> 00:40:00.360 the mind, yeah, get working. Yeah, it's so is to 679 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.599 reprogram yourself. And when you reprogramming yourself, it's about you, right, 680 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.480 fuck anybody else. And I don't mean this in a 681 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:10.559 nasty way, but there's nobody in this world Chris that 682 00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:14.320 will love Chris as much as you can love yourself potentially. 683 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.679 And I don't mean this from an arrogant way point 684 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.320 of view or a vanity way. I mean honoring your soul. 685 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:24.719 What is the right decision for you? So if people 686 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.719 do that, that's the one good step for reprogramming self 687 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.480 is make sure those decisions are not going to go 688 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.239 out with these people because I know they're not good 689 00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:34.960 for me, or I'm not going to go to this 690 00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:39.079 location because it doesn't feel right and for you for example, 691 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:40.880 like you know, choosing to do what you're doing and 692 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:42.559 not buying into the slave system. 693 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.199 That's self love. You know you're choosing not to be 694 00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.920 in that slave system. But do you know what the 695 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.440 chances are, Chris, that it's going to change again for 696 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:56.519 you because you get to a certain pinnacle threatle point 697 00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:00.800 where you feel, hang on, I need to I need 698 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.519 to change this again because it doesn't feel like you know, 699 00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:05.039 just just a gut feeling. 700 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.400 Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 701 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.880 Man. I you know, I'm constantly and shifting and evolving 702 00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:14.440 my thoughts. Press was is when I when it comes 703 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:18.559 to bettering myself in my spiritual path, I want to 704 00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:22.079 go back to the perceived reality that we're in and 705 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.920 the bigger picture of like the the physical and mainstream 706 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:27.840 agendas that are being pushed on us. 707 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:28.559 Uh. 708 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.519 The one the like I think is one of the 709 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.840 biggest ones that people are noticing right now is the 710 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:36.960 transhuman agenda and trying to merge humans with machine and 711 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:42.920 uh the the eventual uh complete digitalization of people and 712 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:47.239 relying on the machine and the system for including our healthcare, 713 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.000 our survival, our entertainment and you know, to to it'll 714 00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.840 it'll define who we are basically, And I think that's 715 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.239 one of the the desired outcomes of all of this. 716 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.960 What do you think about you know, some of those 717 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.320 engenders going on right now? 718 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:09.719 Yeah? Okay, so again, let me twist this and. 719 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:11.119 Throw it back out. 720 00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:16.519 Okay, So what if all of this ship is a distraction? Right, 721 00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:24.960 They've thrown money, time and energy at this illusion of transhumanism. 722 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:27.119 So people look at me and say, well, what are 723 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.400 you on about? You know, I've talked about transhumanism before. 724 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.960 Let's look at Let's look at the cold hard facts, 725 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.559 like our bones are calcium. 726 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.320 Right. Calcium is a soft metal. 727 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:47.440 Right, So your bones are metal, your nervous system and 728 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:49.320 your brain that's electric. 729 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:57.760 We are already AI. Okay, So people. 730 00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:01.119 Are now expecting expecting us to be turned into a 731 00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.920 T one thousand or you know, whenever. 732 00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.039 It might be all liquid, polymetal, all oil. 733 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.800 But the reality is is that we are already Now. 734 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.639 People were hate on me for sitting this, but we 735 00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.679 are already these AI. We're in a symbiotic nature. Our 736 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:23.119 organic soul is within this AI body. Our thoughts are 737 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.679 not our thoughts necessarily, so we are already AI. But 738 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:31.679 we're being distracted from the reality that we are AI 739 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.079 to think that we're going to be as transhuman as 740 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:34.760 as an agenda. 741 00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:40.679 Like let's take for example, neuralink neuralinks of distraction. We 742 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.039 don't need that shit. They can already insect thoughts being 743 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.039 information into our minds through the different brainwave states, so 744 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.199 that this is the big distraction. Chris, this is what 745 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:52.079 I feel anyway. 746 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.880 Yeah, that's a very interesting take. 747 00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:00.000 Now what do you think about where the other side 748 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.039 of this is I believe keeping humans in a perpetual 749 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.239 state of unhealthiness, because that's another thing that I first 750 00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:11.519 hand experienced is getting myself healthy, eating better, exercising, doing 751 00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.719 things that are better for my body have helped me 752 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:20.559 in my overall consciousness development and my spiritual development, and 753 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.960 it bettered my life as a whole. And this is 754 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.440 one of the hugest things that keep I believe, keep 755 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.519 people in a perpetual state of unhealthiness and non awareness 756 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.119 is the food we're eating and everything that we're subjected 757 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:36.440 to and putting in our bodies. 758 00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.440 Right, that's so important. But then you look at it. Okay, 759 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:47.519 I can twist this again. So imagine if we never 760 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:48.800 really needed sweet. 761 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.960 I love that, dude, that'd be great. I have so 762 00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:55.679 much more time. 763 00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:02.960 Yeah, exactly. Again, we've been led to believe that we 764 00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:03.639 need to eat. 765 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:04.559 Now. 766 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.840 Personally, I fast. I have six on and eighteen off. 767 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:10.639 Is that right? 768 00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.079 Yeah, so I don't eat for eighteen hours a day. 769 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:18.519 I'll cram everything within that six hours. I feel great 770 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:18.840 from it. 771 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.639 But actually, if you look at the brain, I just 772 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.679 take a snapshot of the brain and then the intestines. Okay, 773 00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:31.079 they look very similar. Right, So eighty percent of our 774 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.360 brain cells are located in our gut. So when people 775 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:40.800 get that gut feeling, right, it's because their brain, their 776 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:42.360 true brain is coming. 777 00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.199 From their gut and they're like, oh wow, okay, I'll 778 00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.760 go with that. So only twenty percent apparently, again pinch 779 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:50.880 of salt, because this is what. 780 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:55.000 We've been told. But in our brain, so. 781 00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:57.800 What if. 782 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.639 We have been we have been sold on the pretext 783 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.760 that the brain is a receiver, right, that receives information. 784 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:12.760 What happens if it was always supposed to be a conductor, right, 785 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.840 so rather than storing the information locally or any information 786 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:21.480 that instead it was supposed to conduct straight through us, 787 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:26.920 right through our empty bowels and empty intestines. So it's 788 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:31.440 like we are conducting the energy therefore able to possibly fly. 789 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:33.159 Hmm. 790 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:35.719 Okay, now I know that, and I know I've taken 791 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.079 it into a different level as far as flying. But 792 00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.480 as a kid, did you believe that you could fly? 793 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:42.400 As a kid man, I wanted to fly and I 794 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:44.000 had dreams about it all the time. 795 00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:48.000 Sure, yeah, right, Okay, Now when we're in that dream 796 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:49.920 state as kids, we all get hit with that like 797 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.280 obviously we can that body and we go into the 798 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.000 astral kind of feels. 799 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:55.920 So we all do that. 800 00:46:56.079 --> 00:47:01.599 But taking it back, I remember not being able to 801 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:04.280 fly and being like something's very wrong here. 802 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:06.880 This reality isn't right. 803 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.400 So maybe going back and let's talk like presumaria, what 804 00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.239 we talked about earlier is that let's say back then 805 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:20.480 we could fly because we were conducting the magnetism through 806 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.719 our mind, right, a different system with this magnetism is 807 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:26.400 going through our mind through our belly, you know, and 808 00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:31.199 we never had to eat. So that's kind of something 809 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:36.039 which I felt is but sorry, I know I don't 810 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:41.400 it from the question, but no, you right in respects 811 00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:45.719 of eatouthly, it's that is so key important, getting right 812 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.840 in a sleep, taking time off. Technology is huge as well. 813 00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:53.599 It's an important one. Most importantly, I think is actually 814 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.719 being created and your creative part is you know, in 815 00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:58.639 the bottom of your screen there, dude, you know as 816 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:00.639 far as or if you're paying as well. 817 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:02.880 Did you paint the way? 818 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.159 No? Yeah, that was one of my friends that did that. 819 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.280 Sorry I was muted just now the audience in here, 820 00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:10.920 but yeah, this painting behind me was from Michael friend, 821 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:12.079 Gloria beautiful painting. 822 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.360 It's it's awesome, really good. Yeah, it's really good. 823 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.400 But obviously looking at the guitar, that was your creative 824 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.239 out there, you know, and you obviously thrive from that. 825 00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.639 There's no logic to it. Really, it was just a 826 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:28.880 I'm gonna GetUp and jam and and that's what it's about. 827 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:33.760 Yes, yeah, Now, well we're talking about full human potential. 828 00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.000 You were talking about flying. Uh, what are your other 829 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.360 thoughts on how we could possibly do if we get 830 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.719 access to all the powers of human consciousness? Of course 831 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.400 you look at the obvious. We can already there's already 832 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:51.559 psychic communication, there's already forms of telekinesis and things that 833 00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:54.440 we can measure here. How far do you think we 834 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:55.159 can go with that? 835 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.199 Is that really us? And this is the question I'm 836 00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:06.119 going through out there? Is that really us doing that? 837 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:12.719 So as children we were mediums right now this is 838 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.559 probably again I know I keep reverting back to us 839 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.119 as children, but that is our purest form. So when 840 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.760 we're when we're at that state, we don't logically know anything, 841 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.559 but we feel we sense stuff, right, So we're using 842 00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:29.440 our different sensory system as opposed to just the brain. 843 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.360 So when it comes to somebody says they're a medium 844 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.599 or they're a psychic, I've got a big problem with 845 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:38.840 people who say they're a psychic and they can telekinesis 846 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:40.880 because for me, that's invasive. 847 00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.079 That is the system. 848 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:49.760 Very possibly working through that user, that that form to 849 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:54.840 actually infiltrate somebody else's mind. Right, for anybody to come 850 00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:58.599 into your mind, it's your it's your vessel, it's your vessel, 851 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:03.800 it's nobody else's. That's invasive. That doesn't feel right. Whereas 852 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.360 let's say for example, I pick up information you know 853 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.320 about you know, a brother that you know who passed 854 00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:14.159 or something like that, and just through feeling. That's slightly different. 855 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.840 I'm not going into your brain and pulling out memories 856 00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:18.159 or whatever it might be. 857 00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:22.239 You know. Yeah, So let's go back to the potential. 858 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.519 How far do you think we can take our potential? 859 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:26.400 Besides flying? 860 00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:27.800 What else can you think we can do? 861 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.679 That's a good question. Honestly. 862 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.280 Healing is probably the most important one. And we can 863 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.840 all heal ourselves. And you know you talked about you know, 864 00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.760 eating healthily and then that kind of tithing with the 865 00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:49.880 healing self as well, is that we all have the 866 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:53.079 ability to sell heal. Now, when you're in soul, right, 867 00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:56.679 so imagine like a Russian doll. Right, your soul is 868 00:50:56.719 --> 00:51:00.760 the very inner core. When you're in that all the time, 869 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.239 nothing can penetrate the outer walls. You don't become sick 870 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.000 because you're not in your mind. So if somebody tells 871 00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:12.159 you I'm going to give you a virus and you're 872 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.880 going to get ill, you'll think about it, right, and 873 00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:18.239 then you've put it into your spirit, body, into your election, right, 874 00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:23.280 So it's then manifesting whereas in your authentic state in soul, 875 00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:24.320 nothing can touch. 876 00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:26.360 You because you're not in your brain, you're in your heart. 877 00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:32.280 So when you say about tapping into our true power 878 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:36.280 and our potential the soul, and this is I think 879 00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:38.400 this is what scares a lot of people about soul. 880 00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:42.519 Is that always just lovey dovey stuff. It's not important, right, 881 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.920 But the heart, the soul is an intelligence in its 882 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:51.119 own right. Right, It's an organic intelligence, right, and that 883 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:56.880 has not necessarily been tapped into yet because we've been forced, 884 00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:02.559 right and fed this illusion in all these beliefs, right 885 00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.360 that it's all in here, but actually it all comes 886 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:05.760 from here. 887 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:11.719 Right now, what about life extension? It seems dead if 888 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:15.519 we did unlock this potential that we may not even 889 00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:20.480 have to face death. I don't know, what do you think? Yeah? 890 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:21.320 Very much? 891 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.840 So I've got to bring this up because it made 892 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.000 me chuckle. I don't know if you've seen the videos 893 00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.159 of this Buddhist monk that's like. 894 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not living. He is, like 895 00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:43.119 you know, yeah, it's shocking. So yeah, I've got a 896 00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:44.920 lot to say about Buddhist monks and ship like that. 897 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:49.800 But the guy, he's better off dead, right, he's not 898 00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.320 living even though he's like two hundred. I don't know 899 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.280 how old he is actually, I can't remember. But he's 900 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.920 not really, he's just existing. He's just there. And some 901 00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:00.559 people say, oh, he's an inspiration, but he's the bag 902 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:02.639 of bones, you know, blessing. 903 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:08.480 So yeah, if we maybe didn't eat right, maybe if 904 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.639 we had okay, we'll right bet. But again, the question 905 00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:13.480 you've got to ask ourselves is how do we know 906 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.960 that the initial food that we've had in our lifetimes 907 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.760 hasn't already been genetically modified. We've been you know, we're 908 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.440 just talking about the last twenty years. Maybe it's always 909 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:26.360 been going on and we just haven't been aware of it. 910 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.840 Yes, yeah, I talked to my my all my guests 911 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:35.039 recently about the alteration of our history and how it 912 00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:38.159 just you know, we we can probably not even tell 913 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.679 what happened in the past ten years, much less one hundred, 914 00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:46.800 two hundred thousands of years ago. We're completely lost species. 915 00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:51.360 We're like Hancock says, we're species with amnesia, and we 916 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.320 don't know where we're coming or we're going. And there's 917 00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:58.119 on top of the false reality, they're changing, they're changing 918 00:53:58.159 --> 00:53:59.519 the false reality. 919 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:02.559 So we you know, we're completely confused as a species. 920 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:03.760 Yeah, okay, so. 921 00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.039 Listen, right, so just imagine like a layer with doctor 922 00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:12.239 Evel and his henchmen, right, and they're controlling reality. 923 00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:12.719 Right. 924 00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.679 Here's the plan, guys, okay're going. 925 00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:19.079 To drop these people into these bodies right with no memories, right, 926 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.519 with no identity, and we're just going to watch them 927 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:28.000 stumble around through life, feeding the system their energy, our beliefs, 928 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:33.480 you know. So yeah, it's really difficult to trust anything historically, 929 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.440 and again it kind of takes us away from us 930 00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.599 who we are at the core. As much as we 931 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.800 want to believe that the pyramids were for free energy 932 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:43.880 or whatever. 933 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:46.320 Whatever belief system it might be. 934 00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:49.880 Either way, all I know is that pyramids are not 935 00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.599 necessarily good pyramids of control. Whether it be the elitist, 936 00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:56.360 whether it be your seeing eye, you know, which is 937 00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.519 a AI that spells the A the I in the middle. 938 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:00.639 It has been there the whole time. 939 00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.239 So and so, from from my point of view, it's 940 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:09.400 difficult to believe what to trust because everything has been 941 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.559 adjusted for the system, for the machines, let's call them 942 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:14.480 the soul less. 943 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.960 Would you say that it's safe to say that everything 944 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:21.119 ernel is not to be trusted. That the only thing 945 00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:24.159 we can truly understand and trust is within ourselves. 946 00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.840 When you say that makes me sounds so Goodnagotte, But yeah, 947 00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:38.320 right right, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean, look, you're gonna 948 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.599 You're going to make a decision for you, right, and 949 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.960 that's your decision, that's your choice. You can only trust 950 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.760 that because it's you. Everything else is the distraction. You know. 951 00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:50.599 You know, you said you lost friends. You lost friends 952 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.760 for a reason, maybe because they were part of the system. 953 00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:57.519 The system was using them to keep you within this 954 00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:02.119 kind of you know how, let's call them handlers forwards 955 00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:03.239 of a better effect, you know. 956 00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:08.719 So yeah, yeah, man, Now let's talk about some of 957 00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.159 the non conventional healing modalities that you recommend to people. 958 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.719 Yeah, okay, so. 959 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.920 It's been quite okay, So the healing modalities. First of all, 960 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:26.880 probably my journey as far as he had twenty years ago. 961 00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.639 This is really freaky actually, so twenty years ago when 962 00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.800 I experienced that paranormal thing, you know, the spirit coming me, 963 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:36.480 coming up with me. Probably six months after that happened, 964 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.480 I then went in to learn about massage. I qualified 965 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.400 as a massage therapist. So that's really helped me on 966 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:46.679 my journey where I am now as well is understanding 967 00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:51.360 how our body retains energy how are we to lose 968 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:55.320 that edgy as well. So for people waking up and 969 00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:58.960 questioning if you're looking at doing something, I'd highly suggest 970 00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:04.760 recommend getting to massage, especially especially if you've been very 971 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:08.400 physical throughout your life, whether you've played sports or maybe 972 00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:13.639 whatever I suppose, But yeah, the massage is absolutely keep 973 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.320 because it's all about our body getting. 974 00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:24.920 That back into alignment. Again, there's different different modalities for healing. 975 00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:28.599 Now there's guy called Bob beck and Bob beck was 976 00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.519 big on blood and electrification. 977 00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:35.400 Now, unfortunately this is a double edge blade because again 978 00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:40.519 Bob beck Is was a freemason, Okay, but he came 979 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:43.800 out with some very interesting information regarding how you can 980 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:48.000 purify the blood through blood electrification. 981 00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:54.519 Also, some information came in through one of his studies. 982 00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:57.599 It goes back to the fifties where this guy had 983 00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:01.239 stage three cancer in the task the side throughout his body. 984 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:03.800 He lost all his teeth, he lost all his hair. 985 00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:06.320 He's on a walking stick. He got struck by lightning 986 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.920 and within weeks he lost the walking stick. His teeth 987 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.199 were growing back his hair grew back and the cancer 988 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:18.199 and he went into the full remission the cancer disappeared, right, 989 00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.599 So that, if anything should show to people that the 990 00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.159 electrical side of our body is very important in respects 991 00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:26.480 that we can heal ourselves. 992 00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:32.159 Yeah, right now, how do you see our future? 993 00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:36.840 We're obviously in a much different time than the past 994 00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:40.599 ten twenty thirty years where people are seeking something other 995 00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:45.639 than the external, where they are questioning reality. Do you 996 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.400 think that this is going to be a cattle to 997 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:52.800 a new era of understanding spirituality or is this going 998 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:54.400 to lead to just a deeper trap? 999 00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.599 Uh? Yeah, the latter. 1000 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:03.840 Okay, So, okay, we are on a knife edge in 1001 00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.719 respect of our kids have been indoctrinated now more so 1002 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.559 than you and I were back in the eighties nineties. 1003 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.440 So it's going to get more more testing. 1004 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:20.239 Mental health is going to go on a big decline 1005 00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.719 as well, because people just won't know what to trust, 1006 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:23.440 what to believe. 1007 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:25.480 They'll just blow out their box. 1008 00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.039 So we're on this kind of knife edge as to 1009 00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:34.199 claiming back our sole authentic state or continuing down this 1010 00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.639 journey of madness. What's the definition of insanity is to 1011 00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.159 do the same thing expecting different results. 1012 00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.599 You know now to believe in government as actually. 1013 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.480 The saying, whether it's Trump, Biden, you know, whoever it 1014 00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.400 might be, whoever these world leaders, whether it's Pooting or 1015 00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:53.440 they're talking about clearing out underground bunkers in the Ukraine 1016 00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:57.639 or whatever. Source, trust me, bro, where's it coming from? 1017 00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.719 And again, these people all waiting for a savior. And 1018 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.559 that's the point is there's no savior. We've got to take. 1019 01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:08.400 We've gone to meet our issues head on and heal ourselves. 1020 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:12.280 That's the key thing. When you get in soul, you're unstoppable. 1021 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:17.719 It's so powerful. I can't describe it, really, Chris, Sorry, no. 1022 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:20.159 Right on, man, No, I love it. This is such 1023 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:24.599 a different way to approach this and it's definitely got 1024 01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:27.119 my brain spinning. And I love the way that you 1025 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:32.039 present things. Tell us what you got a seminar class 1026 01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:33.800 coming up for soul and mind. 1027 01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:35.559 It's a two hour class, is that right? 1028 01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:36.760 That's right? 1029 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:41.559 Yeah, on the twenty fifth of November. I'm holding one then, 1030 01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:43.719 and I'm holding one then properly. I think it's the 1031 01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.679 Sick of January, but that's for the East, so I'm 1032 01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:51.880 holding because I'm obviously in the UK kind of center 1033 01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.320 of the of the plane of existence, let's call it. 1034 01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.880 So it's Friday the twenty fifth, from eight or ten 1035 01:00:58.960 --> 01:00:59.760 pm GMT. 1036 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.440 And yeah, I'll be doing a live for anybody that 1037 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:08.719 wants to join, helping people discover knowing thyself. So I 1038 01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:11.760 will admit quite freely that I cherry pick parts from 1039 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.760 maybe certain religions like buddick is know the myself, which 1040 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:18.440 is key. I scrap everything else though, you know, But 1041 01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.960 how can so many people don't know how they operate, 1042 01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:26.519 how their brain works, how to heal themselves that they 1043 01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:29.719 get lost right you? And I don't mean it's a 1044 01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.280 bad way, but you know, good to anybody ifn't if 1045 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.239 you don't know how you work personally. So this is 1046 01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:37.960 the point of the workshop, is to help people on 1047 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.440 a more of them's level take their power back. 1048 01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:43.280 Right on. I love it. 1049 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:43.559 Man. 1050 01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:45.840 Before you head out today, let the audience know what 1051 01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:47.280 else you got going on. I know you have a 1052 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:51.000 YouTube channel, your website. Tell us about all that stuff. 1053 01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:55.920 I okay, So the website is at the moment noble story, 1054 01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.400 but I will be creating the holding site TikTok actually 1055 01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:03.119 shadow on me. I'm currently at about seventy six thousand, 1056 01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:05.559 but they've now shouted by me. I'm probably expected to 1057 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:09.400 be deleted soon as well. So I am trying to 1058 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.719 build up my YouTube channel so I can follow me 1059 01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:14.480 there and I do have a link tree link so 1060 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.440 and I actually i'm creating music as well at the moment. 1061 01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:20.320 So what's the name of the YouTube channel. I'll have 1062 01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.679 a link in description, but for the audience it's it's 1063 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:23.679 called Merlin mofo. 1064 01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:26.239 So it's like this uppe a Merlin mofo. 1065 01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.159 So if you come on that, and probably again, if 1066 01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:34.000 I do removed from TikTok, I'm probably not going to 1067 01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:38.039 go back because this will be the sixth in eighteen months. 1068 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.559 Hey, at least you're you're trying to give them the shot, 1069 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.559 all right, And this was fantastic. I would definitely love 1070 01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:48.320 to speak with you more in the future because I 1071 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:50.480 think we barely scratch the surface on some of this 1072 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:53.719 stuff and we could go a lot deeper, for sure, very. 1073 01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:55.599 Much so, Chris, Hey, look, thank you so much for 1074 01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:57.960 having me on. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much. 1075 01:02:58.159 --> 01:02:58.719 Yes, it has. 1076 01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:01.679 And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll 1077 01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:11.440 talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all then. Today my guest 1078 01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:15.800 is Lindsay Sharman. She is host of Roagueways podcast, author 1079 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:20.280 of four books, educator, and National Board certified teacher with 1080 01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.880 a master's in teaching. She is also a spiritualist and 1081 01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:29.000 experiencer of other realms via astral travel, dream walking, visions, 1082 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:33.840 and interaction with other dimensional entities. Lindsey, welcome back. How 1083 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:34.320 you doing. 1084 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.239 I'm fantastic, Chris, thank you for having me back. It's 1085 01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.840 always awesome to be here with you in your stellar audience. 1086 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:42.880 Oh yes, it's always a wonderful conversation when you hear 1087 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.880 and today will be no different. We're going to dive 1088 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:49.119 into some things that you've actually been examining lately, such 1089 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:51.320 as black cube symbolism. 1090 01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:52.880 You got your own little twist on this. 1091 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:56.000 We'll see if we have time for some soul retrieval 1092 01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:59.719 past lives, and I've always got more weird and wonderful 1093 01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:02.360 area as we can wander through if we have time. 1094 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.199 How has everything been though in Lindsay's world lately? 1095 01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.119 It has been fantastic. I'm really always feeling so blessed 1096 01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:13.599 and having so much gratitude for the fact that we 1097 01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:16.320 get to do this and bring these ideas to people 1098 01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.039 and hang out with some of the coolest people in 1099 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:21.519 the world and you know, learn and share this just 1100 01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:22.159 pretty cool. 1101 01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:25.159 So I love it right on now. I love taking 1102 01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:28.519 stuff that has like originally a negative connotation and flipping 1103 01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:30.719 it around. And there's so much of this in our 1104 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.239 reality that's been inverted to where it's really beautiful. Positive 1105 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.599 things that have been inverted so that we think they're 1106 01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:39.559 horrible and negative to keep us looking down the wrong 1107 01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:43.320 path and not being enlightened like we should. And one 1108 01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:46.960 of those things is the black cube symbolism people think of, 1109 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.960 you know, being assimilated by the Borg, black Cube of Saturn, 1110 01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:55.760 Saturnian death cult, being assimilated the black Cube of Mecca. 1111 01:04:55.880 --> 01:04:58.840 All these things that you know have generally a negative 1112 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:02.760 connotation to them. But you've looked a little deeper into this, 1113 01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.159 What have you come up with about the black cube? 1114 01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.480 Yeah, And that's actually been where I've been most of 1115 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:13.519 my conspiratorial life, which has been a long time, like decades, 1116 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:16.320 I want to say, of sort of steeping in this 1117 01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:20.880 negative ideology of this entire world view that the controller 1118 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:23.239 sort of lay upon us. And you know, like you said, 1119 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.039 it keeps us trapped in this fear, and I think 1120 01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:28.679 especially what they would love is for us to believe 1121 01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.320 that they have full control, that they always have had 1122 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:35.119 full control, that everything is negative and hopeless. And I 1123 01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:37.280 really think this black cube thing is like one of 1124 01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:40.440 those big ones that people when they start to see it, 1125 01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:43.480 they start to see it everywhere. It seems ubiquitous, and 1126 01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.119 then they go, oh, my god, they really do have 1127 01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.639 their fingers and everything. They control everything, and it is 1128 01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:51.800 this dark Saturnian death cult, and all of those things 1129 01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:55.719 are true, but it's also not as hopeless as we think, 1130 01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:58.639 and all of it has been stolen, you know, from us. 1131 01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:02.559 The cube is actually this beautiful, beautiful symbol. Black is 1132 01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:06.639 even a beautiful color. Death is even a beautiful thing, right, 1133 01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:09.079 And there's all of these aspects of it that are 1134 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.920 actually something that we could take and find empowering and hopeful, 1135 01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:15.800 and instead we're just sort of led into seeing it 1136 01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.880 as this all pervasive evil. I don't want to pretend 1137 01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:21.920 that evil isn't there, and then they're not powerful and 1138 01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:24.400 that they're not pulling off all kinds of black magic. 1139 01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:28.719 This is one of the most nefarious black magic spells though. 1140 01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.639 Look at all the movies we have that have black 1141 01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:34.480 Cube stuff in it, and how it's always presented as 1142 01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:36.880 a trap. And this is one of the things, right, 1143 01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:40.679 that they want you to really see the whole world 1144 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:42.880 as a trap, and they really want you to feel 1145 01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:44.719 like you are disempowered in it. So we see the 1146 01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:46.840 black cube in so many movies as this sort of 1147 01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:49.679 literal trap that people are stuck inside of and they 1148 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:52.360 have to get out of somehow. If you can look 1149 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:55.000 at all these movies, right, we see the borg they 1150 01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:58.719 literally live in a black cube, right, And everyone's assimilated 1151 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.320 and there's no hope and they say resistance is futile 1152 01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.079 and all of these things. We could even stretch and 1153 01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:07.079 connect it with the black goo that we also see everywhere, 1154 01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:10.559 which seems like programmable matter. It seems like sort of 1155 01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:13.880 evil and darkness incarnate, that it can get into anyone 1156 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.440 and take over their souls and like control them. And 1157 01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.639 there's all of this energy in there too, and so 1158 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:21.599 we start to feel like, wow, maybe it really is 1159 01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:26.400 a trap. Right, And then we also have this along 1160 01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:29.360 with that matrix idea, that trap that we're stuck inside 1161 01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:33.079 of it, we have that ideology as well, right, that 1162 01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:36.239 this is all actually this matrix and that it's this simulation. 1163 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:39.280 And it's really interesting because I've always seen sort of 1164 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.719 that side of it. But I've always I've always had 1165 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:45.960 this internal thing that just knows, like this isn't a trap. 1166 01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:48.559 Though we're not in a trap right now, right, So 1167 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:51.000 I'm trying to look at all these angles, like, you know, 1168 01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:53.719 maybe it is, and maybe I'm wrong, and maybe you know, 1169 01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:57.000 we're stuck in a simulation and there's this evil, evil 1170 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:01.280 god and out yell the bo or whatever, the gnostic, 1171 01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:05.119 you know, demiurge who's trapped us here against our will 1172 01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:08.000 and you know, as the master of all matter and 1173 01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:12.519 the material world. Maybe that's true, right, But I just 1174 01:08:12.719 --> 01:08:15.599 don't see it. I don't actually even see any evidence 1175 01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:17.600 of it. And in fact, I see that we have 1176 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:21.119 all this evidence that we live. Yeah, sure in a matrix, 1177 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.600 uh maybe even you'd say in a simulation. But when 1178 01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.199 you look at it, we have effect here, we have 1179 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:29.640 power here, and so if we were trapped here, like 1180 01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:32.119 how could we have this effect in this power? Even 1181 01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:35.600 a materialist science, you know, in this quantum physics ideology, 1182 01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:39.079 we have the idea that the observer affects the observed. 1183 01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.319 So if this is such an ironclad, tight BORGI like 1184 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.920 cube that yelled de bull Eth has trapped us in 1185 01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.119 am I saying his name, right, I don't even know. 1186 01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:49.760 They also something like that, yeah, yeah, you know. 1187 01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:51.680 Has trapped us in here, Then why would we be 1188 01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:55.000 able to affect things just with our observation, not even 1189 01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:58.279 meaning to necessarily And then imagine if we meant to. 1190 01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.720 And this is why they want us struck in fear, right, 1191 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:03.399 This is why they want us to see it as 1192 01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:05.159 this black cube. This is why they want us to 1193 01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:08.439 project out that we're trapped and that it's hopeless. And 1194 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:10.239 this is why they have it everywhere. You have the 1195 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.159 black cube. They built like giant ones and they've flopped 1196 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.279 it down in these cities around the world, and they 1197 01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:18.960 have it as their literal logos. There's like black cube, 1198 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:25.119 black rock, black stone, right, Mecha has it and built 1199 01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:27.600 into it all of these wayss we look and so 1200 01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:30.279 that we'll see, oh my god, you have we're trapped, 1201 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:32.199 But no, we have all this power. They're just hiding 1202 01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:34.279 that part from us, right right. 1203 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:37.720 That's the two kind of possible realities that I still 1204 01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:39.319 kind of struggle with, and I brought it up with 1205 01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:43.199 quite a few guests even recently. Is is this what 1206 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.319 we are? Reality? Is this for us? 1207 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:46.039 Did we? You know? 1208 01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:49.239 Is this for just for our consciousness evolution, our development, 1209 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:52.640 our spiritual development? Or has something you know, kind of 1210 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.760 hijacked it to keep us, you know, to make it 1211 01:09:55.920 --> 01:10:00.119 harder to get out into our pure consciousness into to 1212 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.520 have these revelations in spiritual growth. 1213 01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:03.399 I don't know. 1214 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:06.319 I mean I can see it kind of from both angles, 1215 01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:09.840 but I look more towards Yes, this, we created this 1216 01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:13.359 for us. We have this dualistic reality where we're not 1217 01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:15.560 gonna learn anything, We're not going to grow if it's 1218 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.239 all just love and light all the time. So there 1219 01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.960 has to be some of these things that probably were 1220 01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:25.039 put here for us by us to enhance our consciousness 1221 01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:26.359 and help us grow spiritually. 1222 01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:30.119 Maybe yeah, And I really think it's both right. There 1223 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:33.000 is this parasite class, there is this evil in the world. 1224 01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:36.479 Is whatever this is? I really think it's just humans too, 1225 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:39.359 as as humans can be anything we want and so 1226 01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:41.800 we can do that. I don't think it's this all 1227 01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.880 powerful outside force that again has trapped us. So I 1228 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.600 think that's true that is happening here, you know, and 1229 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.399 it does feel like it's complete and total. But this 1230 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:54.119 is also a place made for us, and we are 1231 01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:58.319 also incredibly powerful spiritual beings, and those things do, whether 1232 01:10:58.399 --> 01:11:01.640 they mean to or not, push us towards remembering that 1233 01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.960 and living that and adapting to that and adopting that 1234 01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:10.000 spiritual growth and that empowerment, you know, which is beautiful. 1235 01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:10.359 You know. 1236 01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:13.479 In this place we're in is the material world. It's 1237 01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:19.239 a three dimensional world, and we call it matter, right, matter, material. 1238 01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:22.560 These all come from the same root as matrix, matrix. 1239 01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:28.359 Actually is this idea of mothering mother mater, material, matrix. 1240 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:30.960 They all have the same root. We call this mother 1241 01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:34.159 Earth for a reason, right, So this three dimensional material 1242 01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:36.840 place is actually the mother. When you think about the 1243 01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:42.479 divine feminine energy, it's represented as a square actually, right, 1244 01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:43.560 and it always has right. 1245 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:47.399 Matrix also used as like a womb, a mother's womb exactly. 1246 01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:52.159 That's what matrix means. So before it was this like movie, 1247 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:54.359 and we thought about it as the computer and the trap, 1248 01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:56.680 and we started associating it with the cube. That that 1249 01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.960 is the original meaning for it. So what people be 1250 01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.800 most familiar with is perhaps like a matrix, such as 1251 01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:05.600 like a Petrie dish. That material that's in the petrie 1252 01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:08.439 dish is called the matrix. And so you take whatever 1253 01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:11.520 you know, bacteria or whatever you have, and you swab 1254 01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:14.000 it on there, and that matrix is there. It's meant 1255 01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.600 to allow everything it needs for it to grow and 1256 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.760 develop and expand. Right, you're culturing it. And so that's 1257 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:22.680 why it's called the matrix. It's the mother. It is 1258 01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.800 there for you, just like the womb, right can receive 1259 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:27.760 the seed, and then the state can have everything it 1260 01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.279 needs in order to grow and develop until it's ready 1261 01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.960 to go out on its own. So that's where we're at, right. 1262 01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:36.239 This is the material world. It is the mother. It's 1263 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:39.479 not a trap. It is exactly what we need in 1264 01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:43.960 order to develop and grow. And throughout time, this place 1265 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.560 has been represented by the square. Whether you think it's 1266 01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:48.680 the Earth is flat and it actually is a square 1267 01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:51.239 and a plane or whatever, it doesn't matter that the 1268 01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:53.880 symbolism of it has always been the square, because the 1269 01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:58.319 square is measurable. Material is measurable. Right, the square has 1270 01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.880 edges and boundaries. This place has edges and boundaries. And 1271 01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:05.319 as opposed to that, the heavenly area, the you know, 1272 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:09.439 spiritual dimension, the higher dimensions have been represented by the circle. 1273 01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:15.439 The circle actually has the largest capacity for the minimum 1274 01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:18.560 amount of effort. If you're actually calculating like the area 1275 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.479 of a circle, it contains the as much as you 1276 01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:24.920 could possibly contain with the littlest amount of you know, 1277 01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:29.640 boundary line. So it's got that idea, right. You actually 1278 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.880 cannot actually calculate the circle to perfection. We have pie, right, 1279 01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:38.399 and pie goes to infinity. If you cannot endeavor ends, 1280 01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:42.079 it's irrational. So for that reason, we have the circle 1281 01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:45.800 as this sphericle and this heavenly sort of energy. So 1282 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:49.359 the square is material, the circle is heavenly, the cube 1283 01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.720 is still material, the sphere is still heavenly. So we 1284 01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:56.960 have that everywhere. We see it in the Masonic logos, right, 1285 01:13:57.159 --> 01:14:02.000 we see it in various trade in their various symbols 1286 01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.640 across the ages. We have the circle with the cross 1287 01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.600 inside of it, right, that traditional cross, that's a symbol 1288 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:12.279 of this exact same idea that heaven and Earth could merge, 1289 01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:14.840 and that that's what we actually are. We're here in 1290 01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:18.920 this material world, but we're developing spiritually. Like you just said, 1291 01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:21.319 those forces that we see is so dark or actually 1292 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.039 whether they like it or not propelling us even further 1293 01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:27.159 in our spiritual development. We are actually the meeting of 1294 01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:31.279 heaven and Earth. So cube symbolism is not bad, right, 1295 01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:34.399 It's actually just beautiful. It's actually just representing where we are. 1296 01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:36.760 And they just would love to invert that, and they 1297 01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:39.840 would love to control it completely and say we do 1298 01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:44.720 dominate the material world. We are Yealdebo or whatever we are, right, 1299 01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:48.560 this force you couldn't possibly overcome. You should weep in 1300 01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:51.319 your hovel and be grateful for the bugs that we 1301 01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:52.800 throw to you peasants, right. 1302 01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:54.640 Right. 1303 01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:59.840 Instead, we're actually supposed to remember Heaven exists the spirit world, 1304 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.800 and we are that and sort of be the sphere 1305 01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:06.760 within this material place. That's what they don't want. That's 1306 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.960 where we're the most powerful, and that's where they have 1307 01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:13.079 the least control over us. So yeah, and so the 1308 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:17.000 cube itself actually like contains some of these hints of 1309 01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:21.039 how beyond what we've already mentioned, of like how beautiful 1310 01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:24.159 this place actually is. So one of the things I love. 1311 01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:27.640 And this is again, whether you like or care about 1312 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:29.520 Jesus or not, you can just you know, know what 1313 01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.000 Jesus is supposed to represent in the world. He's supposed 1314 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.880 to represent the pathway for humans to find divinity in 1315 01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:36.880 this place, which is exactly what we're talking about. 1316 01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:37.039 Right. 1317 01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.319 And so the cube, if you unroll it right, it 1318 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:43.000 has all these sides, all these planes. I had six 1319 01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:45.600 of them but I can't remember. But if you unroll 1320 01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.439 the sphere or the sorry the cube, it actually makes 1321 01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:50.279 a cross. A lot of people may have seen this 1322 01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:53.199 sort of in a gift or something. Right, all the 1323 01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:55.760 planes kind of roll out and it makes the perfect cross. 1324 01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:59.039 This is a symbol of Jesus. More importantly, it's a 1325 01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:02.439 symbol again of this plane, and usually it's encompassed by 1326 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.119 a circle to represent how this plane and the spiritual 1327 01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:11.000 are one. So the cube also contains that symbolism. Yes, 1328 01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:12.600 there's one, go ahead. 1329 01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:16.479 No, I was just gonna say everything that we fear, 1330 01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.479 everything that they tell us to fear. If we fear it, 1331 01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:21.119 we're not going to explore it, and we're not going 1332 01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:23.720 to learn about it. And that is exactly what they 1333 01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:25.920 what they want us to do. The most powerful thing 1334 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.840 we can do is explore these things that have been 1335 01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:31.720 occulted from us, and we gain power from it by 1336 01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:34.199 exploring it and learning about it. And the more we 1337 01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:36.880 learn about it, the more we realize this isn't anything 1338 01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.319 to fear. Actually, it actually gives us power. 1339 01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:43.800 Yes, yes, and we can feel so much more like, oh, 1340 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.079 this place is actually made for me, or I'm made 1341 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:48.960 for it, or I'm made to link these two amazing places, 1342 01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:51.920 Heaven and Earth, like what how beautiful is that? How 1343 01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:54.840 amazing is that? There's also this thing when you look 1344 01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.319 at this sphere and it's sorry the cube, and it's 1345 01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.640 on its point right, it's resting on one point and 1346 01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:04.039 sort of facing upward. There's a line in the front 1347 01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:05.760 that makes like a y. Do you know what I mean? 1348 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:07.680 You can kind of imagine that y shape that the 1349 01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:11.560 cube makes. That is the room for life. It's a 1350 01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:15.399 room for life, and it's algas I believe, and this 1351 01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:18.439 ruin for life has also something they have inverted, so 1352 01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:20.920 you can see again like both that the cube is 1353 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:24.560 encoding something beautiful, something empowering, something that reminds you that 1354 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:27.039 this place is your mother. Whether you believe in Mother 1355 01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:29.319 Earth as a consciousness or not doesn't matter. This entire 1356 01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.920 plane or a place is the matrix for which you 1357 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.920 were put into so that you could develop. I really 1358 01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:38.239 also believe you chose to be here to develop. But 1359 01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:41.640 that's another story. And they even are encoding this life 1360 01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:45.039 rune into this cube, right, and they have taken this 1361 01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.640 the dark forces and they've inverted that life room. And 1362 01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:51.640 you can imagine the why facing the other direction going down, 1363 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:57.079 and that's the death rune. Right, They've inverted this, and 1364 01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:01.399 then they've made it the peace sign. Yeah right, They 1365 01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:04.000 so that we're all walking around saying peace, but we're 1366 01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:06.199 actually when we're doing it with our fingers, we're actually 1367 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:08.840 doing life right. It's the upright version. We don't usually 1368 01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:12.560 do this downward facing sign, but when we're writing the 1369 01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:15.840 peace sign, we do it downward right. So we're writing 1370 01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:18.479 peace everywhere, but we're actually writing death. That is the 1371 01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:22.000 room for death. That's the inverted life roun. So the 1372 01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:26.039 cube encodes the upright life roun, implying and reminding us 1373 01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.960 that this material plane is life giving, it is about life, 1374 01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:32.920 it's about transformation. And they're like, okay, well, let's take 1375 01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:35.199 the cube and invert it, make it dark, make people 1376 01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:37.920 associated it with being stuck in this matrix and never 1377 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:40.600 being able to escape. And let's also, just in case, 1378 01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:44.600 take that life room and make everybody around the world 1379 01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:48.119 use this symbol and think that they're talking about peace 1380 01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:51.039 in life, but they're actually promoting death, death, death, death, death, 1381 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:54.399 right every time you write it. And that's crazy to me. 1382 01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:55.920 You know, that was one of the things I learned 1383 01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:58.439 a long time ago. That was just a simple, a 1384 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:00.640 simple sort of look. But it's like, wow, that's how 1385 01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:03.560 powerful their dark magic spells are. Is they have everybody 1386 01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:06.399 in the whole entire world making these peace signs and 1387 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:10.359 thinking of cubes in negative ways and they're just saying 1388 01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:12.800 death and thinking about being stuck all the time. 1389 01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:16.199 And it's also linked to Saturn, the death cult of Saturn, 1390 01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:19.880 which also gives Saturn a bad connotation. I mean, how 1391 01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:22.199 do we know that Saturn is really evil? What if 1392 01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:25.600 it has this beautiful purpose of you know, projecting our 1393 01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:28.119 reality or something else or something that it has this 1394 01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.479 kind of cosmic purpose that if it wasn't there, maybe 1395 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.720 we wouldn't even exist. You know, Saturn gets a pretty 1396 01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:36.199 bad rap because of that shit too. 1397 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.600 Yeah, So that's the other thing that this is associated 1398 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:41.560 with his Saturn, and they all the time we hear 1399 01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:45.359 Saturn death cult, Saturn worship. Saturn is satan Saturn is 1400 01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:48.479 there Okay, So again, no matter what you think about Satan, 1401 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:52.199 Satan just means the adversary, right, and maybe there's a 1402 01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:55.279 fallen angel, and maybe there's a super evil dude that's 1403 01:19:55.319 --> 01:19:57.800 your adversary. Okay, well, now you know how strong you 1404 01:19:57.880 --> 01:19:59.960 need to be. That's your adversary, just like your place 1405 01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:01.800 the game. You're like, well, I need to gather this sword, 1406 01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:03.359 and I need to put on this right, and I 1407 01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:05.159 need to learn that spell so I could go face 1408 01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:10.199 my adversary whatever. But Saturn, Saturn is not Satan. Saturn 1409 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.760 has never just been like, this is your evil adversary. 1410 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:16.760 Even the ancient mythos of Saturn is not like that, right. 1411 01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:19.319 He's kind of harsh, he's kind of like fatherly figure, 1412 01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:22.680 fatherly whatever. The worst we can say about Saturn is 1413 01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:25.960 this idea that he ate his children, right, And that's 1414 01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:28.840 that's the myth of Saturn. And even that people are 1415 01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:32.439 taking and they're like, see child eating and and I'm 1416 01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:34.239 like I get I get it, because they do seem 1417 01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:38.640 to eat babies. This death cult, right, they like to 1418 01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:40.960 invert everything and get as dark as they can get. 1419 01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:44.279 But Saturn eating his children was not actually meant as 1420 01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:46.479 far as we can tell to be this tale of 1421 01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.319 this evil you know, archetype in the s guy that 1422 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:51.840 just loves to kill children. As far as we can tell, 1423 01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:56.119 Saturn is just representative of space and time. Space and time, 1424 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:57.840 time and especially is what we think about when we 1425 01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:00.359 think about Saturn. Those are the energies associate with them 1426 01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:03.479 most traditionally. And when they're talking about eating his children, 1427 01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:05.680 they say things like he bore his children and then 1428 01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:08.560 he ate his children, right, he bore them and then 1429 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:12.000 ate them of the same even impulse, And you think 1430 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.840 about that, Well, what is time and matter in this 1431 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:17.920 material space? What does it do? It births things in 1432 01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.840 the spring, they grow up and they're beautiful, and there's 1433 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:23.399 trees and they bear fruit. By the time the summer 1434 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:25.439 and the fall roll around, and then things start to 1435 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.640 get cold. Time moves forward and they start to rot 1436 01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:30.960 and they fall into the ground. But no one looks 1437 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.399 at that and says that's evil. Nature's killing everything and 1438 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.840 it's evil. We just go, oh, yeah, that has to happen. Actually, 1439 01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:39.800 we ate some of the fruit we needed, and the 1440 01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:41.640 rest of it has to go back down into the 1441 01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:45.439 earth to be composted and turn back into nutrients. And 1442 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:49.279 then grow the next generation of trees and grass and whatever, 1443 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:52.720 the same thing is happening with us. We were born, 1444 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:55.880 we grow, we live, we bear fruit, we start to wither, 1445 01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:57.600 and we die and it's a beautiful It would be 1446 01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:00.079 horrible if we didn't die, right, We have to die. 1447 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:02.840 Like they've done that across the board, with all these 1448 01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:08.079 historical stories of how the universe works, astrology, how nature works, 1449 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:12.359 showing us up these deep, beautiful stories, allegorical stories of 1450 01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:16.119 how the universe and everything comes together. But it's been 1451 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:19.319 averted and we'll never know the true meaning because now 1452 01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:22.600 it's satan and it's evil and Cronos is eating his babies. 1453 01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:24.520 And you don't want to look at that. But if 1454 01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:26.239 you do look at it and find out the true 1455 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:29.119 meaning and go even deeper, you're better for it because 1456 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:32.840 you've actually learned something, and you've broken the spell of 1457 01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:35.319 you know, fear that they're trying to keep over. 1458 01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.920 You, yes, and the fear of death and the fear 1459 01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:39.960 of time. It's like, yeah, that's going to keep going 1460 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.840 on forever. Millions and billions of people have died before you, 1461 01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:45.439 and you're gonna die too. And this father and mother 1462 01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.800 father Time and mother Earth father, you know, Heaven and 1463 01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:52.039 Mother Earth, this matrix and this fatherly energy created you 1464 01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:54.800 and it's going to destroy you too. But there's part 1465 01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:57.000 of you that is not destroyed. And this is part 1466 01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:59.239 of Saturn's energy too, right, He's like, well, did you 1467 01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:01.600 prepare did you go find the sword? And did you 1468 01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:03.399 get the right armor? And did you learn the spell? 1469 01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:05.640 And did you remember who you are? Because if so, 1470 01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:09.640 you can transcend that. And you actually realized you don't die. 1471 01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:12.439 Your physical body falls away and it re goes back 1472 01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:15.479 into the earth and reforms into something else, but you 1473 01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:19.960 your consciousness that transcends time and space. And now Saturn 1474 01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:22.319 is just a great teacher and just a great father 1475 01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:24.600 and not some evil thing that's trying to kill you, 1476 01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:29.560 right right, And you master that, you are now mastery. 1477 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.760 You're the master. Right. If you can really really get 1478 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:36.479 deeper into that side of learning and thinking, you've overcome 1479 01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:40.039 time and matter and space. Right, And that's what all 1480 01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:43.119 the great teachers are talking about right on? 1481 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:45.640 Man, Now, I wanted to bring up I might have 1482 01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:47.920 brought this up on your show whenever I was on there. 1483 01:23:48.039 --> 01:23:50.880 I think it was last week about my not personal 1484 01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:54.479 direct experience, but something I saw that was actually filmed 1485 01:23:54.520 --> 01:23:59.000 and videotaped. That is regarding a paranormal kind of incident. 1486 01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:00.399 And I don't know if I told you about the 1487 01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:03.880 black cube that manifested in a field. To tell you 1488 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.920 about that, all right, I'm gonna quickly tell this story. 1489 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:09.560 I was at a UFO conference and I don't know 1490 01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:11.720 if you know who Trey Hudson is. He's a paranormal 1491 01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.239 investigator and he's in charge of the investigation down at 1492 01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:19.279 the meadow. The meadow is like an undisclosed paranormal hotspot 1493 01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:22.439 like Skinwalker Ranch, except it's in the South. It's in Alabama. 1494 01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:26.159 And his team of investigators, he's former intelligence. They are legit, 1495 01:24:26.399 --> 01:24:28.399 like they really know what they're doing, have top of 1496 01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:31.479 the line equipment, and they're you know, twenty four to 1497 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:34.960 seven monitoring this place. Well, they they brought their their 1498 01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:38.479 findings to this UFO conference that I was covering, and 1499 01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.239 they showed a video of some of their some of 1500 01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:43.039 their findings, and this is one of the most This 1501 01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:45.680 is actually the most incredible thing that I've probably ever seen. 1502 01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:50.399 This was real footage of something that manifested in the 1503 01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:55.600 meadow in the field that they kind of has like bigfoots, grays, UFOs, 1504 01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:58.960 all kind of crazy weird activity. Well, this particular night, 1505 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.039 on the camera on the you can they have an 1506 01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:04.720 infrared camera, they have a regular camera, and it's just 1507 01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:08.199 kind of overlooking the field. On the camera, this black cube, 1508 01:25:08.760 --> 01:25:12.680 huge twenty foot by twenty foot manifested out of nowhere 1509 01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:15.399 in the field and they're looking at it. They're like, 1510 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:17.079 oh my god, we got to go check this out. 1511 01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:20.159 So he sends a couple of his team members out 1512 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:22.439 there to go check it out. And when they're outside, 1513 01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:25.560 they don't see anything. It's only visible on the camera 1514 01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:28.159 on infrared camera, on the regular camera, and it's this 1515 01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.720 massive black cube. And they start walking towards it. They're 1516 01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:35.359 being guided where exactly to go because they can't see it. Well. 1517 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.479 Once they get to the location, I shit you not, 1518 01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:41.359 they disappear on the camera. You can't see them anymore. 1519 01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.760 Their infrared signature is gone, but the black cubes there, 1520 01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:46.960 it's like swallowed them up. This is the best part 1521 01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:52.199 on their end. They gets totally disoriented. The temperature drops 1522 01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:56.119 like ten degrees. Everything is complete darkness. They can't see anything, 1523 01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.760 and they're running into like foliage and branches that don't 1524 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:02.880 egat exist in that area, like little picker bushes and 1525 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.880 weird shit that's not supposed to be there. Wow, they 1526 01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:09.479 have to backtrack and like find their way out of 1527 01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:13.720 this thing. They finally re emerged twenty foot on the 1528 01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:16.439 other side of this black cube. You know. Their heat 1529 01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:19.960 signatures came out and they said they were totally disoriented. 1530 01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:21.720 They ended up in a place that they never thought 1531 01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:25.079 they were. And then when they're walking back, like this 1532 01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:27.680 cube is still on camera, but once once they leave 1533 01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:32.079 the area, it just dissipates and disappears. And it's like, man, 1534 01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:33.840 that's crazy. What if they would have been in that 1535 01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:36.119 thing when that when it would have disappeared. But that's 1536 01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:39.000 another thing I mean, see, is that not necessarily evil? 1537 01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:41.119 It's kind of It may be a little scary when 1538 01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:42.640 you first see it, I was like, oh my god. 1539 01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:45.479 But is it necessarily evil? Or is it a part 1540 01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:47.800 of our reality? Is it a part like another state 1541 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:52.079 of matter that we haven't discovered yet? Is it another dimension? 1542 01:26:52.199 --> 01:26:54.600 You know? It is this giving us access to parts 1543 01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:57.840 of our reality that we wouldn't know otherwise? And is 1544 01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:00.800 it necessarily bad? But it was a black cube? 1545 01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:04.680 Yeah, that's crazy that it was a black cube, you know, 1546 01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:06.520 and I wonder if it was just black because it 1547 01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:09.840 is absorbing light and time and space or something, right, 1548 01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:14.439 that's what black is seemed to be. Yeah, it sounds 1549 01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:16.000 like a portal, and that's what I was thinking when 1550 01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:18.199 you were describing it, you know, And it reminds me 1551 01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:20.680 of both the Missing four one one and some of 1552 01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:23.800 the cases where people talk about like stumbling into sort 1553 01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:26.279 of like the weird area and it's disorienting. There might 1554 01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:28.680 even be a fog or different brush or different things, 1555 01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:31.399 and then coming back out. Sometimes some people don't come 1556 01:27:31.479 --> 01:27:34.319 back out, and we wonder, like, well, what happened to them? 1557 01:27:34.439 --> 01:27:37.359 Are they stuck in a different time in space? Because again, 1558 01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:40.560 that's interesting that the cube can be associated with time 1559 01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:42.880 and space and this could be a portal to different 1560 01:27:42.920 --> 01:27:45.199 times in space. You know, there's this thing I just 1561 01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:48.039 saw that was like a you know Ted X or 1562 01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:51.560 maybe just Ted talk this guy who's a quantum physicist, 1563 01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:54.239 or what everybody wanted to make. So in quantum physics, 1564 01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:57.880 there's an idea of entanglement, right where like two particles 1565 01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.800 or two photons or two whatevers can be brought to 1566 01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.359 the same exact time and space and then when they're 1567 01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:06.520 pulled apart, they can mimic each other instantly, which is 1568 01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:08.680 a type of time travel. So like if you have 1569 01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:11.319 one you know, proton over here and one over here, 1570 01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:12.840 and that you can make them both spin in the 1571 01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:15.119 same direction at the exact same time with no leg 1572 01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:19.279 that is time travel. Nothing moves that fast, right, not 1573 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:23.279 even light. So this guy wanted to entangle things at 1574 01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:27.319 a macro level, well not just quantum entanglement, but just entanglement, 1575 01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:29.760 and he wanted to prove it. So I won't walk 1576 01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:31.960 through the whole thing that he did, but he claims 1577 01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:35.800 to have succeeded. And part of the basis of how 1578 01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:40.560 he designed things, I'll just say was based on the 1579 01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:43.640 idea of the hypercube or the tesser act, do. 1580 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:45.600 You know, Yeah, yeah, So. 1581 01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:47.159 It's a cube that goes into the cube and it 1582 01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:50.800 like never kind of ends. It's not really a possible thing, 1583 01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:53.880 but it connects dimensions and this cube. When you're talking 1584 01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:55.760 about it, I'm like, what if that's what the whole 1585 01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:59.319 cube thing is? Is this like idea of hypercube? You 1586 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.039 know that you can actually time travel, you can actually 1587 01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:05.079 create portals that it's based on this shape and this 1588 01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:07.880 the mathematics of that shape, right, that's what he claims 1589 01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:09.920 was the thing that allowed him to macro and tang, 1590 01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:13.359 which we've never done before. Should be this world mind 1591 01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:17.079 breaking announcement, But you know how many people really even 1592 01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:20.439 understand what the hell I just said? So, so I 1593 01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:22.920 can see why not. Everyone's just like, but I saw it. 1594 01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.399 I was like, that's insane if that's true, because that 1595 01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:29.159 means we can time travel eventually, actually, that we understand 1596 01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:31.800 the physics of it, and that there are ways to 1597 01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:37.000 connect various dimensions through this tesser act, this hypercube back 1598 01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:39.359 to the cube again. You know, that's so insane. 1599 01:29:40.039 --> 01:29:42.960 And if you think that, you know, maybe in these 1600 01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:47.119 this phenomenon natural state, that it's kind of benign, maybe beneficial, 1601 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:51.039 maybe beautiful. But we have aerospace companies, we've got corporations 1602 01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:53.520 coming into places like this to try and put their 1603 01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:56.600 little fingers in there and discover weaponiyes probably what they 1604 01:29:56.680 --> 01:29:59.560 can do with this high strange stuff. But in its 1605 01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:02.880 natural it's probably not good or bad. But we go 1606 01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:04.760 in there and we try to make it the worse 1607 01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:05.399 that it can be. 1608 01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:09.239 Yeah, So when you know, when I hear about the 1609 01:30:09.279 --> 01:30:11.600 missing four and one stuff, and people having time slips 1610 01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:14.319 and just wandering into these fogs or these cubes, probably 1611 01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:16.840 that they can't see these testserracts that they're just not 1612 01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:20.199 capable of perceiving. I feel bad for them. I'm like, well, 1613 01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:22.039 they didn't ask for that. They didn't really want to 1614 01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:24.520 go back to like the nineteen twenties for five seconds 1615 01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:26.279 and then come back to now and just be like, 1616 01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:29.199 what the hell does happen? Like that's probably really hard 1617 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:31.760 or if you never come back, that's probably way worse. 1618 01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:34.880 But I also then think of, again, yeah, what can 1619 01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:37.960 we actually do with that technology? And I am sure 1620 01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:41.239 there are beings already using that technology, right, and that, 1621 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:43.880 like you said, it's neutral about how do we apply it. 1622 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:48.119 When I do manifestation, a lot of times I go 1623 01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:50.680 into meditation and I go into my sort of spiritual 1624 01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:54.920 space I call it sometimes a psychic space, and I 1625 01:30:55.079 --> 01:30:57.720 will picture and well build my energy, right, and I'll 1626 01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:00.319 picture the thing that I'm manifesting, and I will actually 1627 01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:05.720 like bring it out from inside into the largest dimension 1628 01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:09.000 of the universe and then back inside, and it sort 1629 01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:11.640 of looks like a hypercube to my mind. So like 1630 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:17.239 I'm even using this same basic geometry for my own manifestation. 1631 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:20.479 Why I hear other people talk about sort of quantum jumping, 1632 01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:22.960 is right, is that what they're calling it quantum shifting. 1633 01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:27.039 It's also manifestation, and it sounds like the kind of 1634 01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:29.560 using the same sort of idea that you have to 1635 01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:31.760 like take it from inside, put it outside, and then 1636 01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:33.560 bring out side back in and sort of like make 1637 01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:36.279 them all connected in your mind. So I'm like, you know, 1638 01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:39.119 maybe we can apply this technology, if you want to 1639 01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:41.760 call it that, even on that sort of level where 1640 01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:45.680 we're you know, meditating on it, projecting it and just 1641 01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:49.840 sort of imagining that sort of a connection between the 1642 01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:53.800 different planes of existence and consciousness, you know, and that 1643 01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:56.600 that can help us, even if we're not the Navy 1644 01:31:56.880 --> 01:32:00.760 Military Intelligence able to really go investigate whatmember that cube 1645 01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:04.079 in that field was and possibly recreate that, maybe we 1646 01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:06.399 can just bring it down to our level right on. 1647 01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:11.479 I want to know, while since you mentioned your manifestation techniques, 1648 01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:14.199 give us an idea of the kind of things that 1649 01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:17.720 we can actually manifest into a reality by using some 1650 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:18.640 of those techniques. 1651 01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:22.039 Oh my god, My favorite story of manifestation I've done 1652 01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:24.960 so far as my house. One of the houses that 1653 01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:27.359 I bought, and so I was looking for a house 1654 01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:29.199 to buy, right, and I actually like sat down and 1655 01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:32.439 I drew a house, sort of like what people I 1656 01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:35.159 think do when they're calling, like a vision board or something, 1657 01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:36.760 but I don't really know what that is. So I 1658 01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:39.079 just knew that I was going to manifest more powerfully 1659 01:32:39.079 --> 01:32:40.840 if I really could see it. And I can really 1660 01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:42.560 see it if I draw it, and you're also putting 1661 01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:45.359 the energy into it by doing something and connection with it. 1662 01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:49.039 And I put special like ruins and drew tarot cards 1663 01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:50.600 and drew them on there, and I just kind of 1664 01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:53.199 did this little my own spell, right, my own magic. 1665 01:32:53.720 --> 01:32:57.119 I put that away and just expected to find a house. 1666 01:32:57.199 --> 01:32:59.880 And I literally forgot like what I even drew, or 1667 01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:01.600 I knew in my mind. I kind of want this 1668 01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:03.720 type of house. I want like an old farmhouse that's 1669 01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:06.880 turned into our modern house. I want whatever, and I 1670 01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:10.000 want fruit tree if possible, and all this stuff. So 1671 01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:12.720 I'm looking for houses, looking for houses, looking for houses. 1672 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.039 All of them are like they're not really it. I 1673 01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:16.600 don't know, but it's kind of getting to the point 1674 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:18.119 where it's like, well, I just need to buy a house, 1675 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:19.960 So I guess I'll just have to like kind of settle. 1676 01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:22.199 So there's this one house we sort of picked and 1677 01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:23.880 I was like, yeah, I guess I like this, I'll 1678 01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:26.680 just buy this house whatever. And I was with my 1679 01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:29.119 boyfriend at the time, and you know, I was like, well, 1680 01:33:29.159 --> 01:33:31.960 let's go eat and then we'll call our real esta agent. 1681 01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:34.439 We'll have him put in an offer or whatever. So 1682 01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:36.319 we were going to go to a totally different spot 1683 01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:37.920 for this is this. We had this spot in mind 1684 01:33:37.960 --> 01:33:39.840 we're going to go to. But on the way, I 1685 01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.680 just looked over and I saw this sign for this 1686 01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:45.079 restaurant that like two years before my mother had just 1687 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.479 casually mentioned to me was one of the best restaurants 1688 01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:49.520 she'd ever been to. And I saw it and I 1689 01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:51.880 was like, oh, yeah, that's that restaurant my mom told 1690 01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:53.560 me about way long ago. Like I really want to 1691 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:56.720 try that place. Actually, So went somewhere we didn't expect 1692 01:33:56.760 --> 01:33:59.800 to go, stopped over at this restaurant, walked in, said 1693 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:01.920 down on order whatever we're eating, and I'm like, let's 1694 01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:05.239 just on the off chance that something came available right now, 1695 01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:08.800 let's look at Zillo again and just see. And so 1696 01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:11.439 I'm looking and I'm looking and didn't change any filters 1697 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:14.319 didn't do anything differently. And I'm like, well, there's a 1698 01:34:14.359 --> 01:34:16.600 house right here that I don't remember looking at before. 1699 01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:18.840 And I pulled it up and it's supposedly been on 1700 01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:21.159 Zillo for like thirty days, and I'm like, how did 1701 01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:23.800 I not see this house? So I'm looking at it 1702 01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:27.199 and it's like everything I love. I'm like, oh my god, 1703 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:29.840 it's like everything I wanted, Like this is the house, 1704 01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:32.680 it's in the price range and everything. I'm like so excited. 1705 01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:34.239 So I'm like, where is it. We have to go 1706 01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:36.680 see it. We have to go whatever. In the meantime, 1707 01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:39.159 I'll add, before I looked at Zillo, I was looking 1708 01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:41.119 out the window and this woman was like watering her 1709 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:44.039 plants and I was like she it was just funny. 1710 01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:45.800 There's like this little boy across the street and she 1711 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.319 was yelling at him and I was just noticing them. Right, 1712 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:50.720 she went back inside whatever, and I found this house. 1713 01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:52.640 So I'm like, well, where's this house? When we're done eating, 1714 01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:54.039 we'll just see if we can go look at it. 1715 01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:56.600 At least, I like click on the address. I put 1716 01:34:56.640 --> 01:34:58.399 it up on Maps. I pull it up and I'm like, 1717 01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:00.880 what this Maps is? Confused it's telling me it's like 1718 01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:03.520 in the restaurant with me. I'm like zooming in and 1719 01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:05.880 then I'm like, oh no, it's saying it's across the street. 1720 01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:08.520 And then I'm like, oh, it's that house I'm looking 1721 01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:10.880 at and have been looking at this whole time. That 1722 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:12.920 woman who was just watering her plants that I was 1723 01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:14.920 laughing at with the little boy whatever was going on 1724 01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:17.760 with them. That's the house that is just popped up 1725 01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:21.119 on Zillow that hadn't been there before. So it gets crazier. 1726 01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:23.840 I walk across the street. I'm like, you're not really 1727 01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:25.600 supposed to do this, but I know she's home because 1728 01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:27.359 I just saw her water in her plants. So I'm 1729 01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:29.079 going to just knock on the door and see if 1730 01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:31.640 she'll just like let us look around maybe like we're 1731 01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.720 nice people. So she does. She answers. She's like, oh, yeah, 1732 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:37.319 come on, come in, buy this house. This house is awesome, 1733 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:39.920 Like she shows us all around. I'm like, I love 1734 01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:42.920 this house. There's a giant plum tree in the backyard 1735 01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:46.319 that is eighty years old and still produces massive amounts 1736 01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:48.279 of plums. I'm like, this is my dream come true. 1737 01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:50.720 You know, it's awesome. I want to put an offer in. 1738 01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:53.359 Call it real ESCTY agent. Put in the offer, we 1739 01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:56.319 get the house, we move in eventually. I'm like looking 1740 01:35:56.359 --> 01:35:58.680 through whatever my journal and I find a picture of 1741 01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:01.439 the house I had drawn months and months before when 1742 01:36:01.479 --> 01:36:04.079 I was starting to manifest this house, and I drew 1743 01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:09.119 this exact fucking house like egg zact Lee. So when 1744 01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:10.800 she had let us in, there was this black dog 1745 01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:12.600 that she has that was running around and whatever was 1746 01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:14.760 super cute. I'm looking at this picture and I'm like, 1747 01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:17.399 for some reason, I don't have a dog, and I 1748 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:20.199 drew a black dog in the fucking picture. Like this 1749 01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:23.479 is like how fucking the door was red, the house 1750 01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:25.800 was blued. There's a plum tree in the picture. There's 1751 01:36:25.840 --> 01:36:28.920 a plum tree at the house, Like I fucking created 1752 01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:32.239 this house out of nothing. Or some people say, well, 1753 01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:34.640 what if you just psychically like grabbed from the future. 1754 01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:37.199 I'm like, who cares, what's the difference? That exactly the 1755 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:40.039 point of manifestation is that you're creating a future in 1756 01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:42.840 the future is creating you now, like you're interconnected, and 1757 01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:45.640 that's the nature of the hypercube, right, So it's like 1758 01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:49.760 transdimensional cross time and space so that that blew my mind. 1759 01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:52.000 I was like, I, A, this is act. This is crazy. 1760 01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:55.840 It's beyond explanation, and all the things that had to happen. 1761 01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:57.760 My mom had to tell me two years prior to 1762 01:36:57.800 --> 01:37:01.319 eat at that restaurant, or it wouldn't have happened. Right, Yes, 1763 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:02.800 that's crazy, it is. 1764 01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:04.680 Yeah, And I love how you said to you know, 1765 01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:08.000 you made your own type of spell and your own ritual. 1766 01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:11.760 The more I kind of dabble in these things, manifestation 1767 01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:17.000 and you know, magical practices, I find that it's all 1768 01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:20.520 about really your intent behind it, and there's no really 1769 01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:24.840 specific kind of step by step way to do things. 1770 01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:27.319 It's all about really it works better if you make 1771 01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:28.279 it your own, right. 1772 01:37:29.319 --> 01:37:31.760 Oh yeah, And this is the thing. I think this 1773 01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:35.520 is why traditional magic can be really effective, is because 1774 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:38.760 you put so much practice and so much study into 1775 01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:41.880 like Wednesday is the day of whoever and whatever planet, 1776 01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:44.479 whatever color, and at this time, this angel can come 1777 01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:46.640 in and if I'm facing that direction and I say 1778 01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:50.000 this phrase, but you're actually just like, that's just how 1779 01:37:50.039 --> 01:37:52.039 much effort you put into it, And you could do 1780 01:37:52.119 --> 01:37:54.760 the exact same thing, But like I did, right, I 1781 01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:56.840 put that much effort. I sat there and I drew 1782 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:59.279 that house, and I put that dog in for some reason, 1783 01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:01.039 and I like put the runs on it, and I 1784 01:38:01.119 --> 01:38:03.439 put the cards for it, and I like did my 1785 01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:06.319 thing where I put in all of this effort, all 1786 01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:09.239 of this attention, all of this focus, right, and all 1787 01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:12.000 this expectation then that that would work. And it's the 1788 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:14.600 same with magic. Right. Part of it is like you 1789 01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:17.199 trust that there's the people who've been writing books about 1790 01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:19.479 it for hundreds of years, and they've all been doing it, 1791 01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:20.600 so why wouldn't it work? 1792 01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:20.920 Right? 1793 01:38:21.560 --> 01:38:23.479 Some of us need that we need this sort of 1794 01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:27.159 like structure and tradition and to expect that it works. 1795 01:38:27.199 --> 01:38:29.680 But I'm like, oh, I just expect this works anyway. 1796 01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:31.279 I haven't just going to do it my way to. 1797 01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:34.840 Ritual in a house with fifteen windows facing east. Yes, 1798 01:38:35.039 --> 01:38:37.479 slaughter the cow in the matrix of that, right. 1799 01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:41.199 And if you if you really believe in what you're doing, 1800 01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:43.560 it works no matter what it is. And I think 1801 01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:46.640 that's the trick. And some people just can't believe certain 1802 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:50.600 things can be easy, right, so they need something complicated 1803 01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:53.479 and hard. And there's other people who can believe that 1804 01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:55.359 it can be very simple but they still have to 1805 01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:58.399 put in the effort that energy. So I usually say, 1806 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:01.159 you know, magic to me is just any time we're 1807 01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:06.960 combining our consciousness right, our our choice, our attention, our focus, 1808 01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:11.439 with our speaking often right of the something like I 1809 01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.000 am going to manifest this house, this house is already 1810 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:17.880 mine and our emotion. So if you combine those three things, 1811 01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:21.359 this action of some kind, this conscious focus on it, 1812 01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:24.039 and the feeling that goes along with it, then that 1813 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:26.800 is magic. That is how things happen. They happen at 1814 01:39:26.840 --> 01:39:30.119 a very mundane level in that same way. Right, if 1815 01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:32.000 I'm like I'm going to go to Chris's house, I 1816 01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:35.039 decided that, right, and then I'm focusing on it. Now 1817 01:39:35.079 --> 01:39:36.760 I have to act it out and drive it, and 1818 01:39:36.880 --> 01:39:39.239 I probably have an emotion associated with it. Otherwise I 1819 01:39:39.279 --> 01:39:41.960 wouldn't do it. I wouldn't will it if it wasn't 1820 01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:44.239 going to make me happy for fulfilly in some way. 1821 01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:45.119 Right, Ye? 1822 01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:49.560 That on such a small scale, our a massive. 1823 01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:53.520 Scale, right exactly. And then if you can get a 1824 01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:55.840 bunch of other people in on it, right, it's even 1825 01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:58.000 more powerful. So if you're doing this sort of mass 1826 01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:02.000 meditations and mass manifestation, I think those. That's why we 1827 01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:04.560 can actually measure and effect from it, right, And that's 1828 01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:08.159 that Lynn mctager and the Power of eight and her 1829 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:10.880 sort of research is all about that too. When we 1830 01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:15.239 come together, we have a much larger effect. And again 1831 01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:16.800 I think it's the same sort of thing. I think 1832 01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:19.319 we believe it more because there's more of us doing it. 1833 01:40:19.439 --> 01:40:22.439 We trust it more. We have a bigger emotional field 1834 01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:26.039 when our emotions are connected together and we're taking this action, 1835 01:40:26.199 --> 01:40:28.880 but it's multiplied by however, many people are engaged in it. 1836 01:40:29.039 --> 01:40:32.319 So that's even I really like that too, especially because 1837 01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:35.119 she has studied that you do have a real effect. 1838 01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:38.359 You can lower crime in your area, you can bring 1839 01:40:38.479 --> 01:40:40.840 money and wealth to people, you can heal people from 1840 01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:45.039 even chronic ailments, like we're really powerful beings. And again 1841 01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:46.800 that's what they would like us to not remember and 1842 01:40:46.920 --> 01:40:48.720 not do and not practice, right. 1843 01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:51.439 And I'd like to think because of this very thing 1844 01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:55.079 that you're talking about collective intent and will, that we 1845 01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:58.680 may have manifested a better timeline that we're currently on, 1846 01:40:59.199 --> 01:41:01.600 because it's for awhile it was looking like, oh, we're 1847 01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:04.000 headed to mad Max World and everything's going to shit 1848 01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:06.399 and everybody's gonna get the Jeb and Cuthulu babies are 1849 01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:08.760 gonna pop out in five g's gonna kill everyone. But 1850 01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:11.840 it's never really happened, and we seem to be, you know, 1851 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:14.760 just kind of hanging in there. Everything's moving along steadily. 1852 01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:17.159 And I like to think that part of that is 1853 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:21.159 because we all just collectively didn't participate in the bullshit. 1854 01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:25.840 Yeah, we had enough collective rising of consciousness, right, And 1855 01:41:26.359 --> 01:41:28.439 that's the thing about that is I think people think 1856 01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:30.760 that's like a magic spell. It kind of is, like 1857 01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:32.680 we were just talking about, the more people you have, 1858 01:41:33.039 --> 01:41:34.760 the more focus you have, the more action you have 1859 01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:36.680 in a direction, the more likely things are gonna go 1860 01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:39.439 that way. But I don't think it's just magic. I 1861 01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:41.800 think we had enough people waking each other up, enough 1862 01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:44.119 people like doing that, living that, being that that, enough 1863 01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:46.439 other people remember that they also can do that and 1864 01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:48.520 be that, and then we just sort of like reach 1865 01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:51.159 critical mass where it was like, Okay, there's enough of you, 1866 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:53.880 now we can have this timeline instead, and now we're 1867 01:41:53.920 --> 01:41:56.640 going sort of that direction and people are creating I'm 1868 01:41:56.640 --> 01:41:59.560 amazing things like the aquacure. I think you probably had 1869 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:02.600 retwisement on before, but I've heard of that. Oh, you 1870 01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:06.039 have to be so amazing. The hydrogen therapy is amazing, 1871 01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:10.119 and people are doing actual free energy machines that actually work. 1872 01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:13.560 They're starting to distribute them, and who knows what else. 1873 01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:16.079 Who knows what other technologies could pop up and really 1874 01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:17.039 transform things. 1875 01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:19.680 Yeah, I think we call it magic because we don't 1876 01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:22.520 understand it. It's just a part of our reality, just 1877 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:24.800 a part of energy that surrounds us at all time, 1878 01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:27.960 a part of our reality that has been suppressed and 1879 01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:30.399 pushed out of our consciousness for so long that we 1880 01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:33.279 think it's woo woo and magical stuff. But it's just 1881 01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:34.640 really the way things work. 1882 01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:39.199 That's absolutely right. I think that underscores everything we've talked 1883 01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:41.560 about today, that this is just actually the universe. This 1884 01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:44.199 is just actually the dimension we're in. This just actually 1885 01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:47.159 is our energy and our place within it, and that's 1886 01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:50.079 how things are. There's like exactly nothing magic about it. 1887 01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:54.479 What is that famous quote? It's like anything sufficiently advanced 1888 01:42:54.560 --> 01:42:57.199 enough will seem like magic, even though it's just technology. 1889 01:42:57.800 --> 01:42:59.840 That's why I love the word technology and to apply 1890 01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:02.600 to this type of thing too. Right, Like you have 1891 01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:06.920 within you the technology of manifestation. You have within you 1892 01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:10.720 the technology to create the universe and the world as 1893 01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:14.199 you see fit. That's your power, that's your birthright. 1894 01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:19.479 Oh yeah, Now, where is there anything else that we 1895 01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:21.640 should hit on when it comes to the black queue 1896 01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:22.319 before we move on? 1897 01:43:23.720 --> 01:43:27.760 I think we hit it all, I hope. So that 1898 01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:29.720 was all that was floating around in my mind so 1899 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:30.359 far today. 1900 01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:33.840 Right on now, I want to get into soul retrieval. 1901 01:43:34.479 --> 01:43:38.079 I've talked to different people about I guess different versions 1902 01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:41.800 of how they're doing this. Some of them they reach 1903 01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:45.319 an astral state or have somewhat of an out of 1904 01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:49.840 body experience, and they're able to enter these alternate realms 1905 01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:55.399 or dimensions where spirits of past loved ones are past 1906 01:43:55.760 --> 01:44:00.439 anyone is actually residing there and somehow trapped in these realms, 1907 01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:04.600 and your astral energy in your actual body is actually 1908 01:44:04.720 --> 01:44:09.399 able to assist this soul in crossing over. Is that right? 1909 01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:12.720 That's a little different from the solar trivial that I 1910 01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:16.359 do in the traditions that I've been sort of taught 1911 01:44:16.359 --> 01:44:20.239 to s Yeah, So solar tribal for me is from 1912 01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:23.119 some Native American traditions, and so some of my shamanic 1913 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.119 teachers first performed it on me, and then I sort 1914 01:44:27.119 --> 01:44:30.439 of was actually taught even more so by my own 1915 01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:33.680 guides and allies how to do it in the way 1916 01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:37.079 that works for me. And so it's possibly different for 1917 01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:40.800 many different traditions and many different people. For me, solar 1918 01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:44.319 trivial is that all of us tend to have a 1919 01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:48.840 pretty shattered psyche, you might say, right, or parts of us, 1920 01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:51.319 you might say that we have suppressed and repressed so 1921 01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:54.560 thoroughly that they seem like they're not even us anymore, 1922 01:44:54.920 --> 01:44:57.439 or we forgotten those parts of us so thoroughly that 1923 01:44:57.560 --> 01:45:00.279 we didn't even know we were missing them, right, And 1924 01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:04.079 we can think of this also in psychological terms as 1925 01:45:04.279 --> 01:45:07.079 as again what's repressed and what's suppressed. When people go 1926 01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:10.359 to psychotherapy or they go to hypnotherapy, they sometimes have 1927 01:45:10.520 --> 01:45:11.920 memories resurface, for. 1928 01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:14.680 Example, today our own soul. 1929 01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:18.520 Oh yeah, yeah, So our own soul gets shattered and 1930 01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.239 so many ways, and it can be little, right, So 1931 01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:22.840 we can just have like a sort of phase of 1932 01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:24.720 our life that we kind of suppress some things. But 1933 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:26.720 then you know, after that we come out of it 1934 01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:29.039 and we're not in the abuse of relationship anymore, we're 1935 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:30.960 not doing drugs anymore, and things sort of come back 1936 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:33.760 and we heal them naturally. So sol retrievals for the 1937 01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:36.439 times where we just never got around to that there's 1938 01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:38.880 stuff that we just left and it's just sitting there waiting. 1939 01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:41.199 And a lot of times when people come to me 1940 01:45:41.279 --> 01:45:44.359 and they feel strongly like they have a demonic attachment, 1941 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:48.880 it oftentimes is actually this this part of themselves that 1942 01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:52.920 is so separate feeling now feels alien and foreign to them, 1943 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.960 and is trying to get their attention so strongly that 1944 01:45:56.079 --> 01:45:58.680 it seems to them like it's attacking them, but it's 1945 01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:02.079 really just like begging for reunification, like can we stop 1946 01:46:02.399 --> 01:46:05.960 being pretending like we're separate because we're actually one. So 1947 01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:09.920 you can't actually live your life cut up into pieces, 1948 01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:11.760 and that's what a lot of us are doing, right, 1949 01:46:12.359 --> 01:46:14.760 and so sole retrieval's goal is to get those pieces 1950 01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:17.159 and bring them back, bring them back into unity. 1951 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:17.479 And to flow. 1952 01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:21.119 You would never do that with an actual de enter 1953 01:46:21.119 --> 01:46:23.439 to your attachment, because that also exists. You would never 1954 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:25.720 do that with an external spirit like the soul of 1955 01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:28.600 someone else who's passed on or something, because that's their soul, 1956 01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:31.359 that's their energy. But with your own energy, that you've 1957 01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.279 just sort of lost along the way. You can do this. 1958 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:38.720 Most often they're from past lives, but they're not always. 1959 01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:41.520 Especially people who have suffered severe trauma and this life 1960 01:46:41.560 --> 01:46:44.600 will often have pieces of their soul left in this 1961 01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:48.039 life also. So when I go into the sort of 1962 01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:51.560 astral space in the psychic space with people in ceremony 1963 01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:54.960 for them, sometimes their guides and allies will sort of 1964 01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:56.359 show me like, we're going to go do it a 1965 01:46:56.439 --> 01:46:58.560 sole retrieval. So this is a little different for me 1966 01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:00.720 than it is for a lot of people, a lot 1967 01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:04.399 of practitioners and shamanic workers and healers, they will just say, 1968 01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:07.000 I'll do a solar triebal for you. You know, let's 1969 01:47:07.039 --> 01:47:09.399 do it. I say, I'm not going to pretend like 1970 01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:12.119 I know what needs to happen for you right now, 1971 01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:14.319 because we could do a sore retreeable for any human 1972 01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:16.600 being I've ever met. But are they ready for it? 1973 01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:19.279 I don't know, right so, I'm not that expert, but 1974 01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:21.880 their soul is their guides and allies are. So if 1975 01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:23.640 they tell me and they show me that we're doing that, 1976 01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:27.359 then that's what we're doing. So sometimes they do that, 1977 01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:29.479 and when we're in this space together. That's what happens. 1978 01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:32.279 A lot of times, it happens, I'll say very frequently 1979 01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:36.960 it happens, but not always. So when we do most 1980 01:47:37.079 --> 01:47:40.079 often their guides and allies have to take me in 1981 01:47:40.199 --> 01:47:43.039 a way that seems like we're going pretty far and 1982 01:47:43.199 --> 01:47:47.039 pretty like and there is no real time or space there, 1983 01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:49.920 but it like it feels that way, and it seems 1984 01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:52.199 to take a lot of time and energy to get there. 1985 01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:55.279 So I imagine this is similar to if you were 1986 01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:59.479 doing this instead in something like psychotherapy, that might take many, 1987 01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:01.960 many sets for you to really find the thing that 1988 01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:04.039 is actually at the root of like the issue. 1989 01:48:04.319 --> 01:48:04.479 Right. 1990 01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:07.680 It feels akin to that for me. So there. You know, 1991 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.199 people have asked me before too. In a conference, I 1992 01:48:10.319 --> 01:48:13.479 was giving a question answer person portion. There was a 1993 01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:16.239 person there who is a psychotherapist, and he said, this 1994 01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:18.399 sounds you know, you're describing your schomonic work and all 1995 01:48:18.439 --> 01:48:19.880 the stuff you do. It sounds really similar to what 1996 01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.920 we do in psychotherapy, but just in a really different way. 1997 01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.760 And I'm like, it is exactly the same, right, we 1998 01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:27.880 just have different terms for it, different ways, And I 1999 01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:30.640 genuinely feel like my way is a bit faster, a 2000 01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:34.760 bit easier, but you know, everybody needs different ways. I 2001 01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:37.760 did both shaman a healing and went through psychotherapy, and 2002 01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:40.039 they were both amazingly helpful for me. So I'm not 2003 01:48:40.159 --> 01:48:42.880 opposed to any of the modalities that people can find 2004 01:48:43.079 --> 01:48:48.159 to accomplish the same goal of achieving reunification and wholeness, right, 2005 01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:51.880 So yes, it is really similar to that. So well, 2006 01:48:52.439 --> 01:48:54.600 like that, similar to that, it seems to take time 2007 01:48:54.680 --> 01:48:57.279 and a lot of energy for me to go with 2008 01:48:57.359 --> 01:48:59.439 these guides in allies to this place where this soul 2009 01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:06.039 is lying. It's often seemingly guarded by darkness. It's often 2010 01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:09.399 seemingly like pretty hard to find or get to. Again. 2011 01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:11.479 This seems to represent to me the same sort of 2012 01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:13.760 idea that like you've hidden it away, or you've pushed 2013 01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:16.319 it so far away, it's so far foreign feeling to 2014 01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:20.079 you that you're like not even really wanting to access it, right, 2015 01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:23.520 But we eventually usually gets there and find this piece, 2016 01:49:23.600 --> 01:49:26.079 and it looks different for everyone. It actually is like 2017 01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:29.199 an object, like a chunk. Usually sometimes it is their 2018 01:49:29.319 --> 01:49:31.840 soul or like I shouldn't say that, sometimes it is 2019 01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:35.439 their almost like a humanoid form. It's like a shadow 2020 01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:38.680 sort of version of themselves, you know, and sometimes that's 2021 01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:41.239 what we're bringing back. It's different for everyone, which is 2022 01:49:41.319 --> 01:49:45.119 really fascinating. And then we bring it back and sometimes 2023 01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:48.680 there's like a negotiation that has to take place right 2024 01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:51.119 if it is, especially in that humanoid form. Sometimes we 2025 01:49:51.199 --> 01:49:53.279 have to sort of coax them into like convince them 2026 01:49:53.319 --> 01:49:56.319 to come with us, like that's how far away it is, 2027 01:49:56.640 --> 01:49:59.239 that's how hard it is for the person to really 2028 01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:02.880 receive this back into themselves. They didn't really want to. 2029 01:50:03.039 --> 01:50:05.159 It's really hard, it's really painful. That's why we cut 2030 01:50:05.239 --> 01:50:06.920 it off and shucked it away in the first place, 2031 01:50:07.079 --> 01:50:09.479 because we couldn't deal with it. So, you know, that 2032 01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:12.479 could take some doing, and then eventually we can usually 2033 01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:16.680 bring it back to the person. Then the person has 2034 01:50:16.760 --> 01:50:21.359 to accept it or not. And really, really rarely we've 2035 01:50:21.399 --> 01:50:23.359 brought it all the way back and the person has 2036 01:50:23.439 --> 01:50:26.439 been like, no, I'm not taking that right now. And 2037 01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:30.600 so this happened with one person that I remember right now, 2038 01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:34.119 and so we luckily were able to hand that piece 2039 01:50:34.199 --> 01:50:36.279 to one of their guides and allies, and their guide 2040 01:50:36.319 --> 01:50:38.560 now I was like, I will hold this until they're ready, 2041 01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:41.439 and they will be ready, and they even told me 2042 01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:44.560 they will be ready within a year and then we'll 2043 01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:47.800 reintegrate this And I was like, cool, you know, And 2044 01:50:48.039 --> 01:50:50.520 I wasn't supposed to tell them that part. So this 2045 01:50:50.680 --> 01:50:53.000 is also something that happens with me sometimes, as they'll 2046 01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:54.840 tell me, like this part isn't for them to know, 2047 01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:57.279 it's for you to know. Sometimes it is for them 2048 01:50:57.319 --> 01:50:59.760 to know. So all I told them about it was 2049 01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:01.640 a guide or an ally that's holding it and it's 2050 01:51:01.680 --> 01:51:03.680 going to reintegrate at some point. And you know, they're 2051 01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:05.279 telling me, it's going to come into your heart and 2052 01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:06.600 you're going to just feel it and you're going to 2053 01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:08.640 know it. So just don't worry about it. It'll happen 2054 01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:11.800 when it happens, and it's fine. I forgot completely about 2055 01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:14.800 that a year past, so I deal with how many 2056 01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:16.720 people in a year and how many sessions and how 2057 01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:19.640 many whatever, you know, I completely forgot this. This person 2058 01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:22.800 came back for a healing for me. They did not 2059 01:51:22.920 --> 01:51:25.439 remind me of that, Like I wasn't in my conscious. 2060 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:28.119 They're like, let's do another, you know, healing ceremony. So 2061 01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:31.479 we did it healing ceremony and there was this just 2062 01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:33.359 peace like hanging around them, and I was like, oh, 2063 01:51:33.479 --> 01:51:35.880 you're just okay, cool, it's already here. We didn't even 2064 01:51:35.920 --> 01:51:38.239 have to work for it, and we reintegrated it. It 2065 01:51:38.319 --> 01:51:40.760 went into their heart. It was this amazing, beautiful thing. 2066 01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:43.319 I just saw the energy and like felt just so much. 2067 01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:46.079 Was just like shedding away and it's really beautiful. A 2068 01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:48.199 bunch of other stuff happened in that ceremony, but when 2069 01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:50.319 we you know, came out and we were talking about it, 2070 01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:52.560 she was like, oh, it finally happened like you said 2071 01:51:52.560 --> 01:51:54.079 it would. And I was like, like, I said it would, 2072 01:51:54.119 --> 01:51:55.680 and she's like, yeah, a year ago you said like 2073 01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:58.079 this piece or something about it was going to come 2074 01:51:58.119 --> 01:51:59.800 into my heart and I was like, oh my god, 2075 01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:02.960 I forgot about that. It was ready, it was ready 2076 01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:05.439 to happen, and it just happens. And you know, that's 2077 01:52:05.479 --> 01:52:07.920 also illustrative of like I said, like, I'm not in 2078 01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:10.880 charge of how it happens or if it's going to 2079 01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:14.680 happen or anything about it. I'm just there to assist 2080 01:52:14.800 --> 01:52:18.840 and witness and you know, help negotiate if needed, you know, 2081 01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:21.399 and be sort of the link that allows this thing 2082 01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:24.359 to happen. And what's really happening is you're doing it 2083 01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:27.800 for yourself the person's doing it for themselves, like they're 2084 01:52:27.840 --> 01:52:29.600 the ones who are ready or not ready. They're the 2085 01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:31.760 ones who are choosing to heal or not to heal. 2086 01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:35.159 And no judgment exists in any of that space, right, 2087 01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:39.119 It all happens in perfect time. But I'm not the timekeeper, 2088 01:52:39.319 --> 01:52:42.680 so I'm just there to observe and assist however I can. 2089 01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:46.760 Now, are these pieces of our soul that we just rejected? 2090 01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:50.399 Is it something that trauma cause? Is this something negative 2091 01:52:50.439 --> 01:52:53.600 about ourselves that we don't like? What's going on with 2092 01:52:53.680 --> 01:52:54.880 these lost pieces? 2093 01:52:55.479 --> 01:52:58.199 Yeah, it's all of those things. So you can imagine, 2094 01:52:58.359 --> 01:53:01.479 you know, when people go through something like childhood rape 2095 01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:04.319 or something, right, you might literally just suppress that. That's 2096 01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:07.239 exactly the same that that is what we're talking about, right, 2097 01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:10.000 the part that you were like, Nope, that didn't happen. Nope, 2098 01:53:10.159 --> 01:53:12.800 not going to think about it, like in full rejection 2099 01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:15.680 of this, right, And like we said, you can't actually 2100 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.560 live in rejection of yourself. And no matter how hard 2101 01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:25.000 it is. When I went INTOTO psychotherapy and PTSD therapy, 2102 01:53:25.279 --> 01:53:28.479 I had to do what's called EMDR therapy, which is 2103 01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:34.560 I movement desensitizations something. Anyways, it's this thing you do, 2104 01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:36.560 and the goal of it is to go back to 2105 01:53:36.720 --> 01:53:40.119 a time of trauma. And you know what's happening to 2106 01:53:40.159 --> 01:53:43.079 you physiologically when you experience trauma is that your brain 2107 01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:46.840 sort of shatters the ability to record it as a 2108 01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:50.239 linear memory because it's too overwhelming. There's too much and 2109 01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:52.840 it's too much sensory data, it's too much emotional data, 2110 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:56.079 and it cannot like keep it in this linear narrative. 2111 01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:58.560 So it's sort of stored all over your brain in 2112 01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:02.439 various packets, and your goal is to go back, relive it, 2113 01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:06.960 and bring it back into linear ability. Part of that 2114 01:54:07.199 --> 01:54:10.119 is then you're able to actually observe it and be 2115 01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:13.760 somewhat detached from it instead of just reacting emotionally to 2116 01:54:13.880 --> 01:54:17.239 the sensory data of it. So again, when you look 2117 01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:19.479 at this, this is the exact same thing we're doing 2118 01:54:19.560 --> 01:54:22.039 in soul retrieval. We're going back to that time where 2119 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:24.560 the thing was rejected, The part of us was rejected, 2120 01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:28.039 our experience was rejected, our actions or choices were rejected, 2121 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:32.159 and you're bringing it back into the present consciousness so 2122 01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:34.680 that I describe it as it can reintegrate and go 2123 01:54:34.800 --> 01:54:38.720 into flow. You know, psychologists and psychotherapists describe it as, Oh, 2124 01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:41.119 you're putting it into a linear narrative in your mind, 2125 01:54:42.199 --> 01:54:45.359 but what's the difference. Right, So, trauma is most often 2126 01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:47.520 the trigger that causes us to us to sort of 2127 01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:50.760 cut that chunk off and drop it most often. And 2128 01:54:51.079 --> 01:54:54.279 sometimes that trauma self inflicted, right, Like we do something 2129 01:54:54.439 --> 01:54:57.600 horrifying and we've horrified ourselves and so we're like, I'm 2130 01:54:57.640 --> 01:54:59.800 not gonna nope, I didn't do that, and we block 2131 01:54:59.840 --> 01:55:01.640 that out too. I'm not like that, that's not me. 2132 01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:04.640 It's like, well, it was you in that moment, and 2133 01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:06.560 you do have to actually confront that and deal with 2134 01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:11.479 that and reintegrate it. So it can be both. And 2135 01:55:11.640 --> 01:55:13.800 like I said, sometimes it is from past lives. So 2136 01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:16.399 there's past lives even where we've done something or been 2137 01:55:16.479 --> 01:55:21.560 through something so extreme to us and so incomprehensible to 2138 01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:24.079 us that we have rejected that and we didn't solve 2139 01:55:24.119 --> 01:55:26.199 it in that life, and so it's just hanging around, 2140 01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:28.560 and it's just hanging around, and it's just hanging around. 2141 01:55:29.079 --> 01:55:32.680 And sometimes we experienced this in this life and like 2142 01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:38.000 the sort of idiosyncratic things that we react to strangely 2143 01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:41.680 that not everyone does. So I have some examples if 2144 01:55:41.680 --> 01:55:43.640 you want to hear them from my own life for sure. 2145 01:55:44.720 --> 01:55:46.800 So one of these things I have is that I've 2146 01:55:47.199 --> 01:55:49.920 since I was very little, if anyone touches my neck, 2147 01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:52.680 I like freak out. I'm like, you know, get off me, 2148 01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:54.840 like ah, and I just sort of have what I 2149 01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:57.960 now know is almost like a PTSD like trigger response 2150 01:55:58.119 --> 01:56:00.680 or flashback. I didn't know that at the time, and 2151 01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:03.039 people were just like, damn, she's hello, weird about her neck, 2152 01:56:03.199 --> 01:56:06.760 Like that's weird. So nobody could touch my neck. Nobody 2153 01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:09.720 could touch my neck. One of my first actually, yeah, 2154 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:13.319 the first life that the first past life memory recall 2155 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:17.359 I had basically a soul retrieval. I didn't really know 2156 01:56:17.479 --> 01:56:20.640 that I was just doing it on myself, but I 2157 01:56:20.720 --> 01:56:22.680 went back to this life and I had this full 2158 01:56:22.800 --> 01:56:24.880 recall memory of living and it was sort of like 2159 01:56:25.279 --> 01:56:28.119 Cowboy times. So it seems to me to be like 2160 01:56:29.159 --> 01:56:31.119 and I was sitting looking in a mirror, which was 2161 01:56:31.199 --> 01:56:33.159 the coolest part of the memory actually because I was 2162 01:56:33.239 --> 01:56:36.640 looking at a totally different person. But I fully knew 2163 01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:40.000 I was like Lindsay. But I also knew I wasn't Lindsay, 2164 01:56:40.199 --> 01:56:42.319 and I realized this was like a different time. And 2165 01:56:42.359 --> 01:56:44.119 the more I was realizing this, the more I was 2166 01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:46.680 actually just being in that time and forgetting that Lindsay 2167 01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:50.119 even existed. If I'm sitting there, I'm like brushing my 2168 01:56:50.199 --> 01:56:51.920 hair in the mirror, and I'm like, I'm aware that 2169 01:56:52.039 --> 01:56:54.760 things are kind of weird, and i have very strange feelings. 2170 01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:57.800 I feel like something horrible is actually happening, but I'm 2171 01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:00.720 not really sure why. And then someone who I love, 2172 01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:03.920 who's my husband at that in that life, comes up 2173 01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:06.600 behind me, but he's super terrifying to me. All of 2174 01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:08.720 a sudden, I'm like, something is wrong with him, Something's 2175 01:57:08.800 --> 01:57:12.600 really wrong. And then I realized he knows about my 2176 01:57:12.720 --> 01:57:16.039 secret lover. And then he just cuts my neck and 2177 01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:19.640 I die. So I experienced all of that and remembered 2178 01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:22.079 all of that, and I came back to this life 2179 01:57:22.119 --> 01:57:24.439 and I was like crying. And it's very traumatic to 2180 01:57:24.520 --> 01:57:28.159 relive horrible past life memories. Actually it's a lot to 2181 01:57:28.239 --> 01:57:30.319 deal with. So I came back to this life and 2182 01:57:30.399 --> 01:57:33.319 it was very overwhelming. And after I sort of gathered 2183 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:36.479 myself and you know, went through that, and I just 2184 01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:39.119 sort of naturally did like a forgiveness, like I mean, 2185 01:57:39.159 --> 01:57:41.520 if that really happened, And at the time I really 2186 01:57:41.680 --> 01:57:43.640 wasn't sure. I was like, did I just trip the 2187 01:57:43.680 --> 01:57:45.640 fuck out? Like did I time travel? Like I don't 2188 01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:47.680 really understand what that was. It felt like it was me, 2189 01:57:47.840 --> 01:57:49.720 you know, And later I really understood, like that was 2190 01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:52.399 a past life recall and this was a traumatic memory 2191 01:57:52.399 --> 01:57:54.199 and a traumatic energy that was hanging around, and that's 2192 01:57:54.239 --> 01:57:56.800 why I went to that one naturally to heal that 2193 01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:58.640 and all of that. But at the time I just 2194 01:57:58.760 --> 01:58:01.119 wasn't really sure, but I naturally sort of went into like, well, 2195 01:58:01.159 --> 01:58:03.039 I hope she just like can forgive him, and I 2196 01:58:03.079 --> 01:58:06.000 hope he can just forgive himself, because you know, life 2197 01:58:06.119 --> 01:58:08.279 is crazy and we all make mistakes when we think 2198 01:58:08.319 --> 01:58:11.720 we're these little meat baskets instead of these amazing souls 2199 01:58:11.800 --> 01:58:14.279 or whatever, so like that's all just kind of forgive 2200 01:58:14.319 --> 01:58:16.159 that and let it go. And I kind of even 2201 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:19.159 felt this like throat energy sort of leaving me, and 2202 01:58:19.199 --> 01:58:21.760 I was like, weird, didn't even notice. I don't know 2203 01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:24.119 how long it took me to notice. Somebody at some 2204 01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:26.079 point touched my neck or something, and I was just like, 2205 01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:30.720 oh my god, it doesn't bother me at all. Anymore right, 2206 01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:33.479 like at all? So a lot of us have these 2207 01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:35.520 things and we don't know why. We're like, why do 2208 01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:37.520 I care so much about this? Why do I react 2209 01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:39.880 to that? Why do I hate that thing? It's almost 2210 01:58:40.119 --> 01:58:44.560 always past life stuff, almost always I found that's crazy. 2211 01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:47.399 Now, for the last few minutes we have, I want 2212 01:58:47.439 --> 01:58:49.479 to talk a bit about spirit attachments. 2213 01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:50.079 First. 2214 01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:52.439 How can you tell the difference between what we were 2215 01:58:52.560 --> 01:58:55.359 just talking about with a piece of your soul that 2216 01:58:55.479 --> 01:58:58.520 is trying to get your attention and an actual spiritual 2217 01:58:58.560 --> 01:58:59.720 attachment that's separate. 2218 01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:05.840 Yes, they're often intertwined. I've never, for example, found someone 2219 01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:08.520 who has either a spirit or a demonic energy attached 2220 01:59:08.520 --> 01:59:12.439 to them that didn't also have a huge denial of 2221 01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:16.600 self or splitting of self or psyche psychic sort of 2222 01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:20.359 damage and trauma. So that's a good thing to know 2223 01:59:20.720 --> 01:59:22.920 because we also then can know the more we heal 2224 01:59:23.000 --> 01:59:25.600 those things, the less those other things even have the 2225 01:59:25.760 --> 01:59:28.640 chance to sort of get to us and attach to us. 2226 01:59:28.680 --> 01:59:32.640 And does that make sense? Yes, yeah, so they're not 2227 01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:37.920 they're not often separate. But the way that I know, again, 2228 01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:40.319 as I go into that psychic space and I go 2229 01:59:40.439 --> 01:59:43.880 into ceremonial space, with some for somebody, and I just 2230 01:59:44.000 --> 01:59:47.399 can see and sense, you know, whatever's happening. And the 2231 01:59:47.520 --> 01:59:50.000 first thing I do is look for those demonic or 2232 01:59:50.439 --> 01:59:54.039 or spirit attachments. And if I seem to see them, 2233 01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:56.600 I asked my allies and guides, like, first of all, 2234 01:59:56.640 --> 01:59:58.119 what is that is? 2235 01:59:58.199 --> 01:59:58.239 It? 2236 01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:00.560 Is it as dark and bad as I? Because I'm 2237 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:03.159 always checking because I'm not going to assume anything in 2238 02:00:03.279 --> 02:00:06.199 that space, you know. And if they say, yes, it is, 2239 02:00:06.279 --> 02:00:07.640 you know, And then I ask them, well, what should 2240 02:00:07.640 --> 02:00:09.239 we do? And most of the time it's like we 2241 02:00:09.479 --> 02:00:11.319 just banish, We just kick it off, and we start 2242 02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:13.960 severing attachments, and then we go looking for the thing 2243 02:00:14.359 --> 02:00:17.479 that is unhealed within us that allowed that thing to attach. 2244 02:00:18.319 --> 02:00:19.640 So you have to do both, right, You have to 2245 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:21.680 like banish, but then bring the light and the healing 2246 02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:25.039 into that that original space. There's always something like that. 2247 02:00:25.079 --> 02:00:26.800 And if you don't do both, the things just going 2248 02:00:26.880 --> 02:00:27.319 to come back. 2249 02:00:28.760 --> 02:00:34.520 So I consider these spiritual attachments actual intelligence or consciousness 2250 02:00:34.640 --> 02:00:35.840 or just some form of energy. 2251 02:00:37.279 --> 02:00:41.039 Most often it's just some form of energy. Most often 2252 02:00:41.079 --> 02:00:46.479 it's like accumulated. They seem mindless, they seem I call 2253 02:00:46.560 --> 02:00:49.039 them sometimes leeches or gnats, they're just kind of like 2254 02:00:49.159 --> 02:00:55.399 they're feeding. Sometimes it's intelligent evil and it's really rare. 2255 02:00:56.479 --> 02:00:59.239 Have you I'm sure you have, but could you maybe 2256 02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:02.840 give us some of the those rare occurrences that you 2257 02:01:02.920 --> 02:01:04.000 may have experienced. 2258 02:01:04.800 --> 02:01:11.880 Yeah, they're very horrifying and dark, and I we'll go light. Yeah, yeah, 2259 02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:16.159 I really, I really. I had to confront some of 2260 02:01:16.279 --> 02:01:18.720 my own demonic energies in my life before I ever 2261 02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:23.399 got into this business. So I already had the understanding 2262 02:01:23.760 --> 02:01:26.840 that I am eternally protected and I have that deep, 2263 02:01:26.960 --> 02:01:30.239 unshakable faith, and I think that's necessary to confront or 2264 02:01:30.319 --> 02:01:34.800 face a demonic energy. But more often than not, I'm 2265 02:01:34.880 --> 02:01:38.119 not actually doing the confronting in that space. The guides 2266 02:01:38.119 --> 02:01:40.600 and the allies come in and do that for me. 2267 02:01:41.680 --> 02:01:45.800 So I've had really high level, amazing beings come in 2268 02:01:45.880 --> 02:01:47.520 and do that. And I shouldn't even say for me, 2269 02:01:47.680 --> 02:01:49.960 they're doing it for the person who we're working with, 2270 02:01:50.600 --> 02:01:53.119 right They're they're there guides and allies that have come through. 2271 02:01:53.920 --> 02:01:56.880 But I've had some recognizable like you know, Michael the 2272 02:01:57.000 --> 02:02:00.760 archangel and whatnot, but I've also had ones that I 2273 02:02:00.800 --> 02:02:03.159 didn't even know existed, and I had to go look 2274 02:02:03.199 --> 02:02:05.079 up afterwards and be like, oh, that's actually like a 2275 02:02:05.199 --> 02:02:08.680 thing that okay, cool, Like you know, so that there 2276 02:02:08.920 --> 02:02:12.840 just are. And what I love about this is that again, 2277 02:02:12.880 --> 02:02:15.319 it just encourages my faith even more that there are 2278 02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:18.640 so many beings of love that just are there for you, 2279 02:02:18.840 --> 02:02:20.279 Like all you have to do is know that, and 2280 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:23.199 they're they're even stronger if you call on them, They're 2281 02:02:23.239 --> 02:02:26.399 they're even stronger, and that they're the ones who can 2282 02:02:27.119 --> 02:02:30.720 just deal with this so easily. Actually, and not if 2283 02:02:30.800 --> 02:02:33.680 you aren't in alignment with it, right, if you're like 2284 02:02:33.840 --> 02:02:36.239 calling in the darkness or you're like feeling like you 2285 02:02:36.359 --> 02:02:38.439 want the darkness or something like, they're not gonna be 2286 02:02:38.439 --> 02:02:42.079 able to do that. But especially in an energy of grace, 2287 02:02:42.760 --> 02:02:45.000 they come in and they can detach this. There was 2288 02:02:45.079 --> 02:02:49.279 one time where, for whatever reason, the sole retrieval actually 2289 02:02:49.640 --> 02:02:53.159 involved going into what I can only sort of describe 2290 02:02:53.199 --> 02:02:57.439 as the energy field of the demon. I don't know 2291 02:02:57.800 --> 02:02:59.880 if it was like a layer or something like. It 2292 02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:04.359 really was very strange and I had never experienced anything 2293 02:03:04.520 --> 02:03:06.960 like that before. And actually one of the allies and 2294 02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:11.000 guides had to like enclose me in its field to 2295 02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:14.119 hide me or else that demonic energy would have known 2296 02:03:14.199 --> 02:03:17.359 we were there, and I don't know what would have happened. 2297 02:03:17.399 --> 02:03:21.319 So that was probably the I'll just say in quotes 2298 02:03:21.399 --> 02:03:23.760 scariest because I still wasn't scared because I have an 2299 02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:26.720 unshakable faith, but I also was very aware of how 2300 02:03:26.840 --> 02:03:31.439 like precarious this situation was that we were in and 2301 02:03:31.560 --> 02:03:34.399 how easily it could go a very different direction from 2302 02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:37.479 how it went. So that was the most intense for me. 2303 02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:40.159 But most of the time it's I'm not really the 2304 02:03:40.239 --> 02:03:45.000 one doing much, just watching. I'm just observing. 2305 02:03:45.800 --> 02:03:49.039 Do you think there's certain things that people do that 2306 02:03:49.359 --> 02:03:54.920 attract these more intelligent, nefarious energies rather than the the 2307 02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:58.760 you know, just the benign attachments is there's certain things 2308 02:03:58.800 --> 02:04:01.439 that you find people are doing to kind of attract 2309 02:04:01.479 --> 02:04:02.159 those more. 2310 02:04:03.119 --> 02:04:08.680 The Specifically, the most often that I have been in 2311 02:04:08.800 --> 02:04:15.600 touch with and worked with has come from ancestral you 2312 02:04:15.800 --> 02:04:18.720 might call it a curse, but it's like somewhere in 2313 02:04:18.720 --> 02:04:21.880 their ancestry they were part of some vow or oath 2314 02:04:22.079 --> 02:04:25.119 that did great evil. They chose to be attached to 2315 02:04:25.199 --> 02:04:28.159 this demon, and so it's still like, oh no, I 2316 02:04:28.279 --> 02:04:30.520 own part of you. This is in your DNA, Like 2317 02:04:30.600 --> 02:04:33.520 this is mine. They feel very entitled to it. They're 2318 02:04:33.560 --> 02:04:36.079 not like so again, they're not coming out of nowhere 2319 02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:39.159 and just being like you are now mine. Hah. Right, 2320 02:04:39.279 --> 02:04:41.479 there was an agreement or a vow or an oath 2321 02:04:41.720 --> 02:04:44.720 or something invited that in and that's where it came from. 2322 02:04:45.159 --> 02:04:45.640 Yeah, can you. 2323 02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:49.279 Talk about that before? Like these contracts that we sometimes 2324 02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:53.720 unknowingly make with entities that for whatever reason, we come 2325 02:04:53.800 --> 02:04:56.960 into contact with our lives, that we have these binding 2326 02:04:57.119 --> 02:04:59.399 kind of contracts that we make and they stay attached 2327 02:04:59.399 --> 02:05:03.199 to us until we can somehow break those right, and they're. 2328 02:05:03.039 --> 02:05:06.840 Really easy to break, really easy. There's this well in 2329 02:05:06.920 --> 02:05:08.960 my experience again, I know there's a lot of people 2330 02:05:08.960 --> 02:05:11.680 who feel like very differently like we were talking about before, 2331 02:05:11.760 --> 02:05:13.159 that you actually have to go through and like on 2332 02:05:13.279 --> 02:05:15.479 this day, at this time with the moon in this phase, 2333 02:05:15.600 --> 02:05:18.119 have this much many feathers and like do this. You 2334 02:05:18.199 --> 02:05:21.159 know you can do it that way. But for me, 2335 02:05:21.359 --> 02:05:24.640 it's really as simple as just saying and knowing and 2336 02:05:24.760 --> 02:05:27.399 believing that you're this powerful and that God is within 2337 02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:29.960 you and God can do anything or Jesus or whoever 2338 02:05:30.039 --> 02:05:32.359 you like, doesn't matter, right, and that you have trust 2339 02:05:32.439 --> 02:05:34.720 and faith in that and just saying I revoke and 2340 02:05:34.800 --> 02:05:39.119 rescind all thouse oaths, contracts, agreements, relationships that I made 2341 02:05:39.199 --> 02:05:43.800 in this or any lifetime with any dark entities, energies, 2342 02:05:43.920 --> 02:05:48.079 beings or otherwise, and I invite in a good, true 2343 02:05:48.079 --> 02:05:51.399 and beautiful God, Jesus, the light source energy to be 2344 02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:53.479 aligned with me, to be in my soul and to 2345 02:05:53.720 --> 02:05:57.399 carry me further. That direction doesn't matter the actual words, 2346 02:05:57.760 --> 02:05:59.880 it's the intent is that you know what you're doing 2347 02:06:00.199 --> 02:06:02.000 right and that you actually do that. It's important that 2348 02:06:02.039 --> 02:06:05.319 you do both. You know, we always banish and then invoke. 2349 02:06:05.399 --> 02:06:08.319 We banish the dark, invoke the light. We get rid 2350 02:06:08.359 --> 02:06:10.399 of the contracts and the agreements, and we make the 2351 02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:14.319 new agreement with the better thing. So it takes that 2352 02:06:14.479 --> 02:06:16.760 place right. And so you also have those allies on 2353 02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:18.560 your side and those guides on your side that are 2354 02:06:18.680 --> 02:06:21.359 of the light, that can assist you in keeping it 2355 02:06:21.520 --> 02:06:25.039 that way. So you know you can do that anytime 2356 02:06:25.079 --> 02:06:26.920 you want. You can do it every day if you want. 2357 02:06:26.960 --> 02:06:28.359 If you feel like, I don't know, what if I 2358 02:06:28.439 --> 02:06:30.439 made some weird agreement in my dreams last night with 2359 02:06:30.520 --> 02:06:32.880 some sneaky little guy, and now I'll do it again, 2360 02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:36.439 like there's no end to that, But it works very 2361 02:06:36.760 --> 02:06:40.920 simply and easily. We have free will. These energies will 2362 02:06:40.960 --> 02:06:43.479 do a lot to try to convince you otherwise. That's 2363 02:06:43.520 --> 02:06:45.920 that whole back to the black cube, right. But that's 2364 02:06:45.920 --> 02:06:48.199 why they put so much effort into it, is they 2365 02:06:48.319 --> 02:06:50.800 need us to believe and agree with them or else 2366 02:06:51.199 --> 02:06:51.640 we're free. 2367 02:06:53.079 --> 02:06:55.199 Right on, man, that's incredible. 2368 02:06:56.760 --> 02:07:00.359 Now, how what would you recommend to people that are 2369 02:07:00.520 --> 02:07:02.880 that realize that they have, you know, some kind of 2370 02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:05.960 issue and it's possible they're wondering if it's a past 2371 02:07:06.039 --> 02:07:09.520 life issue or if it maybe is a spiritual attachment. 2372 02:07:09.560 --> 02:07:10.960 What would you recommend to people? 2373 02:07:12.000 --> 02:07:13.720 Oh, well, they can definitely come to me. I do 2374 02:07:13.840 --> 02:07:17.079 one on one sessions with people. The guidance session is 2375 02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:19.880 really good for people who aren't really sure what's going on, 2376 02:07:20.039 --> 02:07:21.399 but they just want to kind of go in and 2377 02:07:21.520 --> 02:07:24.560 see what comes through or what's happening. If you know 2378 02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:28.119 for sure something kind of dark and big and whatever 2379 02:07:28.239 --> 02:07:31.039 is happening with you. The healing ceremony is good, but 2380 02:07:32.159 --> 02:07:35.239 sometimes the full tuning and alignment sound healing that you 2381 02:07:35.319 --> 02:07:37.199 and I did can even take care of a lot 2382 02:07:37.279 --> 02:07:39.239 of these things on its own, Like it can be 2383 02:07:39.399 --> 02:07:42.960 so powerful and so I do you know, if people 2384 02:07:43.000 --> 02:07:45.159 want to email me or contact me through the page 2385 02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:48.159 at roaguways dot org, I can also suggest what I'm 2386 02:07:48.199 --> 02:07:50.239 sort of feeling like might be best for them. But 2387 02:07:50.319 --> 02:07:52.800 I almost always suggest either the full tuning or the 2388 02:07:52.840 --> 02:07:55.479 guidance session because they both have the capacity to bring 2389 02:07:55.600 --> 02:08:00.760 through messages energies, detach some negative stuff, heal some stuff 2390 02:08:00.880 --> 02:08:03.279 past lives often come up with that I can't remember 2391 02:08:03.359 --> 02:08:05.279 with yours if that happened or not, but it's awful. 2392 02:08:05.279 --> 02:08:09.119 Oh yeah, a lot happen, very incredible, and yes, I 2393 02:08:09.279 --> 02:08:12.680 highly recommend the sound healing for sure. 2394 02:08:13.359 --> 02:08:16.560 Awesome And on my page it's called the full Tuning 2395 02:08:16.600 --> 02:08:19.439 in alignment, but it is a sound healing, and so 2396 02:08:19.600 --> 02:08:23.079 that link is also on the site at roagueways dot org. 2397 02:08:23.159 --> 02:08:26.039 There's the spiritual Services tab and if you click on 2398 02:08:26.119 --> 02:08:28.399 that you can just go in and schedule whenever it's 2399 02:08:28.439 --> 02:08:32.079 good for you. You know, Tarot readings are less likely too, 2400 02:08:32.159 --> 02:08:34.359 but they do always bring in healing too, and I 2401 02:08:34.479 --> 02:08:37.399 do a past life tarot reading now, which is can 2402 02:08:37.439 --> 02:08:41.119 be really powerful and bringing some of these old pieces 2403 02:08:41.199 --> 02:08:43.920 back up as well. So there's so many ways to 2404 02:08:44.000 --> 02:08:46.600 go about it, and I just encourage people to trust 2405 02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:49.960 their intuition of what they would feel best about doing, 2406 02:08:50.039 --> 02:08:52.640 because that's what's important too, is that you like what 2407 02:08:52.720 --> 02:08:54.119 you're doing, that you trust what you're doing, that you 2408 02:08:54.239 --> 02:08:56.159 want to be doing it, I think is really important. 2409 02:08:57.640 --> 02:09:01.640 Well, fantastic information as usual, Lindsey. Do you have anything 2410 02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:04.560 interesting you're working on upcoming for the show? Anything else 2411 02:09:04.600 --> 02:09:05.359 you want to talk about. 2412 02:09:05.920 --> 02:09:09.359 I do have an event in about a month on Yeah, 2413 02:09:09.560 --> 02:09:12.800 the winter solstice, we do one Day of Brightness and 2414 02:09:13.039 --> 02:09:15.680 this is on December eighteenth, I want to say, I 2415 02:09:15.720 --> 02:09:18.439 think that's the Sunday that's right before the solstice, so 2416 02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:20.239 that's when we try to do it. It is an 2417 02:09:20.319 --> 02:09:23.439 all day event. We have Phoenix, sorry no, we have 2418 02:09:23.640 --> 02:09:27.680 Marty Leads, the mathemagician, the gnostic, so awesome, such a 2419 02:09:27.760 --> 02:09:29.600 cool guy. So he's going to be there presenting some 2420 02:09:29.760 --> 02:09:33.760 new new material information and guiding us deeper into connection 2421 02:09:33.880 --> 02:09:36.239 with ourselves. We have Joshua Lewis, who is also an 2422 02:09:36.279 --> 02:09:40.960 amazing physical medium and clear audience clairvoyant, so he's going 2423 02:09:41.000 --> 02:09:44.079 to be guiding us through some mediumship and some connecting 2424 02:09:44.199 --> 02:09:46.680 with those who have passed. And then I of course 2425 02:09:46.720 --> 02:09:49.880 always bring us some deep connection and healing energies and 2426 02:09:50.279 --> 02:09:52.439 messages from our guides and allies as well. So it's 2427 02:09:52.520 --> 02:09:54.520 just a really powerful day. And if people want to 2428 02:09:54.600 --> 02:09:56.800 go to that, they can get the tickets in the 2429 02:09:57.000 --> 02:10:00.279 shop at roguways dot org. You'll just scroll just a 2430 02:10:00.359 --> 02:10:02.079 second and see one day of Brightness there and you 2431 02:10:02.079 --> 02:10:03.439 could just buy a ticket if you want to come 2432 02:10:03.520 --> 02:10:05.560 join us. It's on zoom, so it doesn't matter where 2433 02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:07.960 you're at, and I would love to see anybody there 2434 02:10:08.000 --> 02:10:11.199 if you feel called to it. It's always super amazing. 2435 02:10:11.600 --> 02:10:13.359 I'm so grateful I get to do these things. 2436 02:10:13.960 --> 02:10:17.439 Rock on and you're also Roaguways is always available on 2437 02:10:17.640 --> 02:10:19.439 all podcasts and rock fin right. 2438 02:10:20.079 --> 02:10:23.319 Yes, every podcast platform that I know of is available 2439 02:10:23.359 --> 02:10:26.680 on rockfin Sometimes YouTube, but we all know YouTube sucks, 2440 02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:30.039 so Rockfinn's way better rockfinn dot com, slash Roagueways. 2441 02:10:30.039 --> 02:10:32.359 Awesome, Lindsey, thank you so much. We will definitely be 2442 02:10:32.479 --> 02:10:33.920 doing this again in the future. 2443 02:10:34.439 --> 02:10:36.279 Thank you, Chris awesome as always. 2444 02:10:36.439 --> 02:10:38.520 Until next time, everyone, have it next one evening. We'll 2445 02:10:38.560 --> 02:10:40.159 talk again tomorrow. See it in