WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:06.839 It's Night's Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBSY Causton's new radio. 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.720 Thank you, Dann Watkins. I appreciate a little promo every 3 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:12.679 now and then. I am here tonight for the rest 4 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:17.679 of the show up until midnight. I'll be here Thanksgiving tomorrow. 5 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:22.640 I'll be here Friday on the last night side of 6 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:26.800 the week, and my own show is on Saturday ten 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:36.039 to midnight. If somebody were to invent a weapon, a 8 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:44.320 gun that would not be lethal, would you want to 9 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:45.119 own that gun? 10 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:47.119 Knowing that. 11 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:55.399 At times a reason does come across your life where 12 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:59.320 you would have to use a gun. It's very rare. 13 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:05.599 Most of us have never had to hold and be 14 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:10.040 prepared to shoot a gun. But there are those where 15 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:18.359 that circumstance presents itself. Well, somebody has invented a non 16 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:23.040 lethal gun. True story. I sat next to him on 17 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:28.040 the flight back from Vegas last May and we got 18 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:32.680 to talking. We told each other about each other, and 19 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:39.680 I loved his story. I took his business card, contacted 20 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:46.159 him and interviewed him in June. Coincidentally, it was a 21 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:50.239 Dan Ray Nightside, and now he's back for his second 22 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:55.239 appearance on BZ. Brian Gamps Welcome back to WBZ. 23 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:02.200 Thanks Morgan, it's great to chat with you again again. 24 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:09.120 Yes, tell people about your gun or guns. I'm sure 25 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.599 there are a bit a variety of them. Tell people, yes, 26 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:14.960 this invention. 27 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.879 Well, I've been a gun owner my entire adult life, 28 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.800 as I explained to you, but I had an experience 29 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:28.879 maybe ten years ago. It caused me to really question 30 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:33.240 whether owning a gun was really enough, was it really 31 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.719 the right thing. And it happened when I got involved 32 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:41.719 in a road rage incident. I was driving admittedly fast 33 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:45.240 in a fancy sports car and some guy you know, 34 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.360 really took offense to it, got right on my behind. 35 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.560 I sped up, he sped up. I slowed down, He 36 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.639 slowed down, and I got scared, and I pulled off 37 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.199 to the side of the road, thinking that he'd go 38 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:02.039 around me, but he didn't. He pulled it right behind 39 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.479 me and he got out of the car. Now, as 40 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.919 a gun owner, I had my nine millimeter glock in 41 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:12.319 the glove box, and I'm thinking to myself, do I 42 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:13.960 get out with the gun or do I not get 43 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.800 out with the gun. And I decided to get out 44 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:21.360 without my gun because I felt like nothing good could 45 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:25.400 come from getting out carrying my gun, and it was 46 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.159 actually a big mistake. And this guy, he bumb brushed me. 47 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:34.479 He was bigger, younger, faster, stronger, meaner, and he really 48 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.199 went off on me. And it was at that moment 49 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:41.360 that I realized that unless I was willing to kill him, 50 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:44.240 the gun really was of no value to me. And 51 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.159 even to this day, I would never have taken a 52 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:49.599 life over a road rage incident. But it was at 53 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:52.080 that time that we decided that I decided that we 54 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:55.120 wanted to do something where we could give gun owners 55 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:59.319 like myself an alternative where we could stop at assailants. 56 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.080 We could this arm disabled deter without the risk of 57 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:07.000 taking a life or without causing permanent injury. And that 58 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:12.240 was really the genesis of the burner and spell burner 59 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:18.720 for me, So Burna is b y r na and 60 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.240 my name is b r y a N, So it's 61 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:24.879 just an anagram of my name. But we we came 62 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.759 up with with burner because the effect when you get 63 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:32.360 hit with one of these pellets is an intense burning sensation. 64 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:38.920 They're filled with olioreesin, capsaicin, pepper and tear gas, and 65 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.079 your skin feels like it's on fire. Your eyes closed 66 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.439 sort of involuntarily. We refer to as temporary blindness. You're 67 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.600 in respiratory distress. Most people will drop whatever they're holding, 68 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.959 fall to the ground. So because it was you know, 69 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.000 it burned you, we wanted to call it a burner. 70 00:04:57.879 --> 00:04:59.879 But of course when you google burner, this forty t 71 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.160 three million results. So he came up with a more 72 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:04.680 clever way of saying berner. 73 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:10.879 All right, and who buys a burner? Who are the people? 74 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:14.160 I know you must do your research. Who are the 75 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:19.199 people who set out to buy a burner? And I'm 76 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:22.680 going to ask the question the approximate price? 77 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:28.560 Go? Okay, So we're going to be announcing this month 78 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.560 that we're we will have sold our five hundred thousandth 79 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:36.600 burn up so half a million burners in the last 80 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:41.199 five years. So we are clearly addressing an unmet need 81 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.639 in the market. You know, years ago, when we were 82 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:45.759 developing this, I would go to gun shows with the 83 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.439 prototype and I would say, you know, I don't know 84 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.120 how quick i'd be to pull the trigger, and if 85 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:53.360 I make a mistake, you know, is that a fatal 86 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.439 mistake for me? And I would see other gun owners 87 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:59.120 nodding their head so it was clear to us that 88 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:03.680 gun owners part of our audience. And right now, depending 89 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:07.079 on the month, we're anywhere between sixty five and seventy 90 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:10.600 percent of our audience our gun owners. And they're gun 91 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.399 owners that are looking for a less you know, lethal 92 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.560 way of defending themselves. But you know, thirty to thirty 93 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:22.160 five percent are non gun owners for whatever reason, you know, 94 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:26.000 whether they're philosophically opposed, or they've got small kids at home, 95 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.519 or or their wife tells them there she's going to 96 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.120 divorce them, they buy a gun, but they still want 97 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.959 some way to protect themselves. So, you know, we we 98 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:38.879 think that probably over time we'll start to see more 99 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:42.319 and more non gun owners adopted BURNA. But at this 100 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.079 point it's you know, it's skews a little bit older 101 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.800 our target audiences, you know, say between forty five and 102 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:54.240 sixty five. It skews a little bit more male. It's 103 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:58.720 about sixty forty male female, and it skews more towards 104 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.120 gun owners. And as I said, it's sixty five seventy 105 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:04.639 percent gun owners, thirty thirty five percent non gun owners. 106 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:08.720 Sort of the demographic makeup in terms of ethnicity, it's 107 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:11.319 you know, almost exactly what America looks like. 108 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.519 Okay, and. 109 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.879 Five years ago, so there there has there have been 110 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:25.720 four or five Christmases and Harnicus, let me just say 111 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:34.959 holidays in December where the cross section of Americans who 112 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:40.120 could buy this have purchased this. What does your demographic 113 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:47.000 look like for December holidays twenty twenty four. 114 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.920 Well, we're in the middle of our Black Friday Cyber 115 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:56.959 Monday sale right now, started on Monday. And because we're 116 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:01.639 a consumer product, we are somewhat seasonal. Q four is 117 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:06.199 our best quarter. We are actually a November fiscal filer. 118 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.560 So in other words, our year end ends this Saturday, 119 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.680 and we will be announcing and I'm not telling any 120 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.800 secrets here because I already publicly announced this as we 121 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.000 are a public company, but we'll be running at north 122 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:23.240 of one hundred million dollar annual run rate for this 123 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:27.079 last quarter, and that's up from about an eighty five 124 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:31.000 million dollar run rate in Q three. So we are seeing, 125 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.559 you know, stronger sales during the Christmas holiday, and again 126 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.200 it is you know, it's the same demographic that we 127 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:42.120 see all year all year long. There has been more 128 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.879 and more normalization of the product as as more people 129 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:49.279 become used to it. You know, We're we have a 130 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:52.120 retail store in Las Vegas, which is where you and 131 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:55.360 I were when we met. But we're opening up a 132 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:59.399 retail store right up in Salem, New Hampshire. We're opening 133 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.600 one in Nashville, Tennessee. We're opening a retail store in 134 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:07.679 Fort Wayne and Pasadena in Scottsdale, so that we can, 135 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:10.480 you know, frankly, so that we can both you know, 136 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:13.600 meet our audience, meet our customers where they live, and 137 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.039 also get better demographic information. 138 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:20.440 And one question that I have to take a break, 139 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:27.879 actually two questions. How can people order one? And what 140 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:34.440 safeguards do you have that a person ordering one is 141 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.840 legally old enough to own it? 142 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:48.679 Okay, So first, there is no prohibition for anybody to 143 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.399 own the Burno. So even if you're less than eighteen 144 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:55.279 in Massachusetts, you can still own the burner. It is 145 00:09:55.879 --> 00:10:00.440 state by state that said, we require you to over 146 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.759 eighteen years of age to buy the burner, just like 147 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:08.799 a regular gun, because this is not a toy, and 148 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.440 although it is non lethal, it is still very very 149 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:12.559 much a weapon. 150 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:17.200 Right all right, let me take my break, and I'm 151 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:20.200 going to give the phone numbers and when I had 152 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.399 you on in June. We got a handful of phone numbers. 153 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:27.159 I expect that's a possibility tonight. Here are Night seven 154 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:31.440 six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, eight eight, eight, 155 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.679 nine two, nine, ten thirty. If you want to call 156 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:38.919 in and speak to Brian Gans, he's here and I've 157 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.960 got news specifically for you. And it's a promise I 158 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.440 made to you thirty five thousand feet in the air 159 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.679 between Las Vegas and Boston. You might not remember, but 160 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:55.480 I don't forget promises. Time and temperature nine sixteen forty 161 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:56.320 one degrees. 162 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:00.960 Now back to Dan Ray Live. I'm the Window World 163 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.200 night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 164 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.679 Brian Gans is here and he and his company have 165 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:16.559 created a non lethal gun. You hear the word gun 166 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:21.440 and you think of the eventuality of somebody being killed 167 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:24.120 by those little pellets that come out of the nozzle. 168 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:28.639 They've come up with a way of making that pellet 169 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:32.279 a bullet non lethal. You want to give a call? 170 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:35.440 Excuse me? You want to give a call? Is one 171 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.960 open line six seven, five, four, ten thirty or eight eight, eight, 172 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:45.480 nine to nine ten thirty. And before we go any further, 173 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.720 Brian I made a promise to you. We got talking 174 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:56.320 about TV and media and a favorite TV shows. Do 175 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:57.519 you remember that conversation. 176 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:00.879 I do, but I'm sure I don't remember it as 177 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:02.120 well as you do. Morgan. 178 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:09.399 Well, you mentioned to me your favorite TV character. 179 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:15.440 And I and that of course had to be Maxwell Smart. Correct. 180 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:21.240 Now I can't get him, But on the thirtieth of December, 181 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:27.000 I've got Barbara feldon for you. Oh my god, you 182 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:31.440 mentioned her specifically, She's going to be on that evening 183 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:37.000 at eleven. I tried to get her for tonight so 184 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.639 she could come on after you, but the scheduling just 185 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:41.440 didn't work out. 186 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:48.360 Well, that's very exciting. I have to admit that somewhere 187 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:53.080 in my chain of my ATM code is ninety nine 188 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.960 because that was always my favorite. 189 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:01.120 All right, tell you what. Let's take phone calls. Millis 190 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.399 is the community, Alex is the caller. 191 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.240 Alex good evening, Hey, how you doing, Hi, Brian? Happy Thanksgiving? 192 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:08.320 Hey, Morgan? 193 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:10.200 Thanks to you. 194 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:15.480 Good. At one point I was a gun owner, and uh, 195 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:19.759 my lovely wife decided that, uh, you know, we shouldn't 196 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.720 have one in the house. And I listened to her, 197 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:29.080 and I I was wondering, what okay, First off, do 198 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:32.879 you do you think that this gun was this non 199 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.639 lethal gun? How was it tested? In other words, Uh, 200 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.519 you know trials and everything. I mean, if there is 201 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:42.120 such a thing, and how effective it would be. And 202 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:45.519 also do you have any retail stores you know in Massachusetts? 203 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.600 Uh? First off, as I mentioned earlier, we've sold about 204 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:57.000 five hundred thousand units. Uh, and there's uh, there's about 205 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:01.399 three thousand real world cases of this being used. It's 206 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.120 been used by law enforcement, it's been used by consumers 207 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.919 to stop karjackings, muggings, you home invasions, and throughout all 208 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.879 of this, not a single life has been lost or taken. 209 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:17.879 In fact, I was just down in Argentina two weeks ago. 210 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:20.320 I was a meeting with the vice president of Argentina 211 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:23.360 because we've opened up a factory in there to serve 212 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:26.759 the Argentinian market, and we sold about twenty five thousand 213 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.960 units last year into Argentina, including to the Cordova Police force. 214 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:34.200 And they came back to us with some really interesting stats. 215 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.440 They've used the burn of fifteen hundred times and they've 216 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.480 arrested eleven hundred and six people. There was only one 217 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.799 serious injury, and it was somebody that got shot in 218 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.720 the eye. Although they did not lose the eye, they 219 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:51.879 ended up going to the hospital, but it was phenomenally effective. 220 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:57.879 It will stop and assailants. And if you go online, 221 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:02.480 our website is w ww dog Burna dot com. If 222 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:06.080 you go online, there's hundreds of videos showing the real 223 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:09.559 world effects of this. Also, if you go online, you 224 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:11.799 can go to our dealer locator and it will tell 225 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.120 you where the nearest dealer is. But as I mentioned 226 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:19.080 earlier in the show, we are opening up a company 227 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.600 owned retail store in Sale in New Hampshire. It'll be 228 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.720 open in January. And the beauty of that store is 229 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:27.919 you will be able to go in and shoot the launcher. 230 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.480 You'll be able to demo the product. Because for a 231 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.720 gun owner like yourself, there is a real aha moment 232 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.320 when you shoot the Burna, you know, like all gun owners, 233 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.360 you know, I came to it with a fair amount 234 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.799 of skepticism, you know, but as soon as you shoot it, 235 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:46.840 you know, you realize I don't want to be on 236 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.399 the receiving end of this, that this is not a toy. 237 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:53.080 This is a very very serious weapon. And I think 238 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.480 it's the reason that at our retail stores we have 239 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:59.720 an eighty percent conversion rate. That means, you know, if 240 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:01.919 ten people go to the range and shoot the launcher, 241 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:04.840 eight of them buy it. And there's also kind of 242 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:08.159 an interesting aha moment for non gun owners. I was 243 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:11.240 just when I was down in Argentina, I was shooting 244 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.799 real firearms with the Vice President, and you sort of 245 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:19.320 forget how loud they are, what incredible recoil they have. 246 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.120 I mean, it is a really jarring experience shooting a 247 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.320 real firearm, and I think for a lot of people 248 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:29.000 that don't own a gun, it's intimidating. But then they 249 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.679 shoot the berna. We are one sixteenth as loud as 250 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.279 a real firearm, there is no recoil, and they say, 251 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:36.559 you know what, I can handle this. 252 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:40.000 Let me ask a real alex on On. 253 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.399 I have a question, if you go to a shooting range, 254 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:48.519 of which there are dozens all over the state of Massachusetts, 255 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:54.279 will you be allowed to use a burner in that 256 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:55.600 environment or not? 257 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:01.000 Likely not. It's up to the individual range. But the 258 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.679 range that I belong to, for example, will not allow 259 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:06.359 these weapons to be used. But the beauty of the 260 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.839 burner is you can use it in your backyard. You 261 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:11.799 can use it in your basement. We sell you know, 262 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:16.960 targets that will catch the practice rounds so that it's 263 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:21.519 very easy to practice with. And like anything, you know, 264 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:24.799 you you need to practice. You know, we deal with 265 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.119 law enforcement quite a bit and they have a saying. 266 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:31.079 And the thing is, when you're confronted, you never rise 267 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.160 to the occasion. You fall back on your training. So 268 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:37.359 when the adrenaline's pumping, when your heart rates, you know, 269 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.079 three hundred beats a minute, you need to make sure 270 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:43.640 it's not the first time that you've used the weapon, 271 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.440 you know. So we encourage people to go in their 272 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:50.640 backyard and practice. And honestly, you know, I have three daughters. 273 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:53.839 They all thought I was a Neehanderthal, you know, for 274 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:56.640 owning a gun, But when I got them at Burna, 275 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:58.839 they really, you know, sort of fell in love with it. 276 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:01.200 And you know, I've got to I was in Barnstable 277 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.920 when we are cooking outside, we shoot cans off the 278 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.880 dock and and they've become, you know, real fans of it. 279 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.440 Right, Alex, any of the questions. 280 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:14.480 I was going to say, you don't have to be 281 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:17.079 a marksman. In other words, you know, if you're a 282 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:20.440 gun owner, usually you go to the you know target 283 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.960 and you practice to you know, hitting the target. How 284 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:26.359 accurate is this in or does it give you a 285 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:27.960 room for you know er? 286 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.680 Yeah? First off, it's very accurate. I'm more accurate my 287 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:35.519 burner than I am with my glock nineteen. And for 288 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.640 one very simple reason, or probably two reasons. One is 289 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:42.000 there's no recoil, so you can you know, you can 290 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:47.279 hold it study. The second is you can see the round. 291 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:50.759 So the round's traveling at around between three hundred and 292 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.440 three and fifty feet per second, and you can see 293 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:55.480 it and you can see where it hits, so you 294 00:18:55.519 --> 00:19:00.799 can easily correct. Whereas with a firearm, a gun is 295 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.319 shooting at six seven hundred feet per second, it's very 296 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:06.039 hard to see the bullets and make that correction. So 297 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:09.359 you are back more accurate. Now give saying that it 298 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:13.559 is a pistol, and pistols have inherent limitations because they're 299 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:16.799 not a very stable platform. But we say that our 300 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:20.960 launcher is effective to sixty feet. Okay, find Alex. 301 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:23.000 I'm coming up on news, so I gotta let you go. 302 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:27.640 Thank you, good Happy Thanksgiving, Happy thanving Thanksgiving to you too. 303 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.640 Thank you for making the call. I have one line open. 304 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:35.440 I've got Phil in Boston and Diane and Belle Rica holding. 305 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.400 They're going to have to wait till after the news 306 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:42.319 hit as well. But if you want to dial six one, seven, two, five, 307 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:45.880 four ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, 308 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:52.000 ten thirty, it's open available to you. People are trying 309 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.880 to sneak in and calling on the contest line. I 310 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:58.680 prefer that you don't do that. I know we used 311 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:02.119 to have full lines. One of them is inoperable, but 312 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:04.960 you know I can't forbid. 313 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:05.519 You from doing it. 314 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:09.160 But I can say Rob takes a dim view and 315 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:13.200 he is my call screener. So on that note, you 316 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.279 know what you gotta do. You want to join this conversation, 317 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:20.039 and as you can tell, this is a very serious 318 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.599 conversation on Nightside. 319 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:23.400 I'm about to. 320 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:29.000 Take my break. Time nine thirty, temperature forty one degrees. 321 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.759 You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ, 322 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:35.839 Boston's News Radio. 323 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:42.400 Thank you for choosing Nightside for your evening's entertainment. I'm Morgan. 324 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:47.559 Morgan White Junior. Have been part of bz's landscape. Nineteen 325 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:52.079 ninety six is a good target year and I've been 326 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:55.640 here since then, looking forward to being here for another 327 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:01.240 ten twenty years. I've got Brian Dance, g A and 328 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:07.400 Z joining me, and his company has invented a non 329 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:13.440 lethal gun. The projectile it fires will not kill you, 330 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:19.880 but it will make you slow down. And are you 331 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:21.039 ready to take another call? 332 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:24.480 Brian, very very happy to take another call. 333 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:28.519 All right, let's go to Phil in Boston. Phil, Happy 334 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:36.599 Thanksgiving and welcome to night's side, Phil, Phil going once. 335 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:44.680 All right, we'll push the button and eliminate Phil. And 336 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:49.480 let's go to Diane and Belle Rica. Diane, I'm hoping 337 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:50.359 you are there. 338 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:53.440 Yes, di am, How are you? 339 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:56.039 I am find How are you. 340 00:21:57.960 --> 00:21:58.359 Diane? 341 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.720 How do you feel about a weapon that will stop 342 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.839 a bad guy but won't kill the bad guy? 343 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:12.160 Well? I have an interesting story. My little brother, when 344 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.720 he was thirty years old, was murdered by the police 345 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.960 in New York. He suffer some mental illness, and I 346 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:22.559 think this is a wonderful product. My mother fought with 347 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:26.359 the police department in New York for ten years to 348 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.559 the change for having She wanted a kick like with 349 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:36.960 for not only or four. I think every police station, sheriff, station, 350 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.119 fair crisis censor should have this weapon. 351 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:48.160 All right, let's give write a chance to respond to that. Ryan. 352 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:54.480 Yeah, Look, I think that we're benefiting from two countervailing 353 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:57.559 trends in America. So I think that, you know, people 354 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:01.400 are afraid crime is up, perception of crime is up, 355 00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:04.359 and they want some way to protect themselves and their families. 356 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:08.079 And in fact, you've seen significant increase in gun ownership. 357 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.480 At the same time, I think most Americans are fed 358 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.039 up with the epidemic of gun violence. And that's not 359 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:19.039 just gun violence from civilians, it's also from police. And 360 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:22.079 I think, you know, they're looking for a non lethal 361 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.359 way for the police to carry out their mission. You know, 362 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:28.200 I think it's really important to understand that the vast 363 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:33.119 majority of altercations do not require lethal force. As I 364 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:36.319 said before, even though this guy in the road rage 365 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:39.039 incident came after me, there is no way I was 366 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.839 going to take his life over a road rage incident 367 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:43.839 unless he had gotten out of the car with his 368 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.640 lethal weapon. So, you know, I do think that there 369 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:52.160 is a really important place for a non lethal product 370 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:53.160 that is effective. 371 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:56.839 All right, Diane, And do you own a gun? 372 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:05.599 Dank, No, No, I don't. I've been considering it. But 373 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:08.920 the election went the other way, so I get them 374 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:09.839 safe right now. 375 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:16.799 Would you purchase a gun. 376 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:21.160 For yourself, Yes, yes, I have considered it a lot, 377 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.759 but I travel a lot for work and a lot 378 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.640 of times I wouldn't be able to bring it probably 379 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.119 out of state. I would have to get like a 380 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:36.240 commitment for all the states because I. 381 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:40.359 And Diane that's that's one of the benefits of the burner. So, uh, 382 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.079 we we live sort of on the New Hampshire border. 383 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.319 We're up in andover Massachusetts. We've got a lot of 384 00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.240 employees that come from andover that were you know, that 385 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.000 are gun owners and couldn't go across state lines with 386 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:55.839 their uh lethal firearm. But the burner is legal in 387 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:00.119 fifty states, so it is interstate travel friendly. And I 388 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.359 think that's a really important thing for people that are 389 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:02.920 gun owners. 390 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.200 No I I I absolutely love this idea, and you 391 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.279 should really look up with the group. They're called Stolen 392 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:14.680 Lives and it's about it's a group that helps family 393 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:18.240 deal with their loved ones, apports the country that were 394 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:23.640 warmly murdered by law enforcement. And I bet you they 395 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:25.720 would help you a little mouse this everywhere. 396 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:36.119 Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting because we get so many 397 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:39.519 different you know, groups of people from Biden supporters, Trump 398 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:42.920 supporters that are interested in this product. I think this 399 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:45.319 is really a nonpartisan product. 400 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.160 No, it is absolutely Yeah. 401 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.000