WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:11.160 What would happen if a true crime enthusiast turned murderer? 2 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:14.960 Would it result in the perfect killer? After all, they've 3 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:19.600 done the research and they know how to avoid getting caught. Well, 4 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:23.359 today we talk about this exact situation and how one 5 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:27.199 true crime officionado tried to get away with what she 6 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.399 called the perfect crime. This is the South Korean case 7 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:34.039 of Jung Yu Jung. 8 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:39.079 My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked 9 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:41.799 and Grim, a true crime podcast. 10 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:50.719 The following podcast material intended for a mature audience. Listener 11 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:52.439 discretion is advice. 12 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:12.439 There was that better? 13 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.040 That was better? That took us like five fucking takes 14 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:16.920 because Nicole forgot how to do our intro. 15 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.000 I know we've only been doing this or how many years? 16 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:20.599 And I was just like, what are you doing? Is 17 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:21.439 that how it goes? 18 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:23.280 How many years? 19 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:23.480 Is it? 20 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:24.200 Are we on year? 21 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:25.280 Oh? 22 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:28.280 This is gonna be the finish of year three? I 23 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:31.680 think so so. And in February it's we're starting our 24 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.640 fourth year or is. 25 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:35.959 It twenty twenty one? That I don't even remember when 26 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:36.959 year we started this. 27 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.120 We don't even know what we're talking about, Huh, I 28 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:45.040 don't know. Well, that's that's the pressures of the year 29 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:46.920 that we've been going through. Twenty twenty four has been 30 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:49.359 a wild ride, to say the least. I don't know 31 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:51.439 about you guys, but we're definitely looking forward to the 32 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:52.719 new year coming up. 33 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.000 Oh yeah, it's always nice to start like a fresh year. 34 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:58.319 But then I don't know. I was talking to someone 35 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.920 yesterday about it, how I was like excited for a 36 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:02.879 new year, and because I was like, this one wasn't 37 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:05.480 like the best year ever. But that's fine. But then 38 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.599 you can always just change your attitude each day too, right, 39 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:10.400 one hundred percent. So I'm like, you don't need a 40 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.520 whole new year to change things. 41 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:16.560 Up, No, it just it's it's nice to have that 42 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:18.960 marker to look back on the last twelve months, you 43 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:19.479 know what I mean. 44 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.639 Yeah, for sure. 45 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.599 I just went through our backlog real quick. Our first 46 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.759 episode released on February eighth, twenty twenty one. Okay, so 47 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:29.039 this is the end of our third year. 48 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.520 Okay, wow, But. 49 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:33.639 We also have just with the end of the year coming, 50 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.159 we have Christmas coming up. It's officially December, right, so 51 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:40.400 hopefully you guys are getting that Christmas shopping done. There 52 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.560 was black Friday and Cyber Monday that just occurred, and 53 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:44.960 some good deals out there. 54 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:48.479 Hopefully there was some deals like left, right and center. 55 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.280 No kidding, there was deals I believe on Red Bubble 56 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.599 as well, which holds our merch, our new merch. Just 57 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.719 after Halloween week we came up with some new merch. 58 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.120 We did a big old revamp and got rid of 59 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.319 a bunch of old design and put out some new ones. 60 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:04.960 So if you're interested maybe Christmas gift for someone who 61 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.639 you know who likes our show, you can go ahead 62 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:11.639 and maybe support us while getting the best gift ever. 63 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:14.439 Kidding, we haven't even gotten a new piece of. 64 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:15.879 Merch yet, No, we haven't. 65 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:17.360 What the heck's wrong with us? 66 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:20.199 Well, we rock our old stuff like all the time, 67 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:21.879 but yeah, we definitely need some of the new stuff. 68 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:23.840 So let's maybe that's what we should do for Christmas, 69 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.840 is just get each other our own merch for gifts. Yeah, 70 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:31.680 it's not a bad idea, but we have quite the 71 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:37.479 wild ride today. It's I mean, it's how am I 72 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:39.800 going to word this correctly? Because I don't want to 73 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:45.000 word it in a way that makes you not think 74 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.800 in the same brain path of me. I can't think 75 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.759 this morning. There's a way I can word this where 76 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:52.639 it sounds bad, and I don't want to word it 77 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:54.960 that way. Okay, So we are discussing a case that 78 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:59.080 it's the most relatable that we've ever covered, and not 79 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.080 to say relatable for everyone, because it's a blanket statement 80 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:03.840 for us, all right, Because I mean we've covered some 81 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.479 cases where you know, what a family member might have 82 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:08.599 passed and that could have been the most relatable for someone, 83 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.439 or you know, it may have dealt with children and 84 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.639 that's most relatable for someone. So this is a blanket statement. 85 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:16.959 When I say most relatable for us, I mean for 86 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.480 us as a group all of us live listening, okay, because. 87 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:21.759 We are into true crime. 88 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:24.560 We are into true crime exactly. We're all clearly fans 89 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:26.639 of the genre. Right, I think it's safe to say that. 90 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.720 I mean, you're listening to a true crime podcast. We research, 91 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:33.560 we produce one. And today's case involves a true crime fan, 92 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:37.319 someone who became obsessed with these stories, which I mean, 93 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.920 there's nothing wrong with, but beyond the boundaries of being 94 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:43.399 healthy in this case, okay, so much so in fact, 95 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.040 that she decided she needed to know what it was 96 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.199 like to kill. 97 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:50.040 Someone, Oh yeah, I'm honestly looking forward to this story 98 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:54.480 because it's it's surprising, but it's not surprising. 99 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.480 Yeah, I agree, And that's where I'm like, I want 100 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.319 to word things right because there's that line of you 101 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.639 know what, Like I've had this conversation with people before 102 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.839 where they're like, oh, you enjoy true crime, Like how 103 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.720 can you enjoy crime? It's like, I don't enjoy crimes occurring, 104 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.360 but I enjoy hearing the stories like it's shocking. Like 105 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:16.439 there's that line of understanding and not understanding, and it's 106 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:19.759 a fine line. So yeah, yeah, but. 107 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.279 Before we dive in, we've got a big old list 108 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:23.439 of patrons to. 109 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:24.399 Think we do. 110 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:26.600 Yeah, this was awesome. We know a lot of people 111 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:28.839 sign up this week, thank you, Yes, oh freaking much. 112 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.720 And they got another really awesome case at the end 113 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:35.040 of November. I got to share what this case was. 114 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:37.079 It was the sour Toe Cocktail. 115 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:38.040 Yeah, it was great. 116 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.360 If you know, you know, if you don't trust me, 117 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:41.959 it's a case that you want to hear, and you 118 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.680 can hear it by signing up over on Patreon, like 119 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:50.120 these people did. Brooke Davidson, Melanie Forget, Hannah Wilhelm Tammy 120 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:57.959 d Lylah Wahlborn, Annie, Alison Maatos, Angie Rhodes, Stacy Martin, 121 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.160 and Corey made sure to put an exclamation on their names. 122 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.920 Oh okay, because I was like, you announced that last 123 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:06.160 one with more enthusiasm. 124 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:08.879 There's an exclamation there, so I have to That's how 125 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.920 it works, wish. I love the So yes, thank you 126 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.480 guys so much for signing up and supporting us over there. 127 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.040 And like I said, they get that extra episode that 128 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.439 came out and it's a gooderh it was. 129 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:20.279 It was a fun one. 130 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:23.680 Yeah, okay, So are we Are we ready for this? 131 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:24.560 I think so? 132 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:25.199 I think so. 133 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:25.959 Yeah. 134 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.360 Okay. So to start off, we are heading to South Korea, 135 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:34.839 traveling to the southern coastline to uncover this tale. Now, 136 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:38.519 this takes place in the city of Busan, officially known 137 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.959 as Busan Metropolitan City. This hub is quite the vibrant 138 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.120 area and it is South Korean's secus second largest city, 139 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:50.240 boasting a population of three nearly three point five million 140 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.160 people and a staggering gross domestic product of seventy six 141 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.639 billion US dollars, which is wild. That's a lot. 142 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:00.000 That is so much. 143 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.720 Yeah. So it's it's a thriving economic center to say 144 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.319 the least, and Bussan is a city of motion where 145 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.639 you know, commerce and culture are constantly you know, turning, 146 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.040 and it all comes together in this one big hub. 147 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.759 So before diving into this case, so I do want 148 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.279 to take a moment to explore what makes Bussan so 149 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.160 captivating too many people, as it may actually offer some 150 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:24.720 insight into the psychologists psychology of the perpetrator. 151 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:25.000 Right. 152 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:30.600 So, Busan is often called the creative city. It's a 153 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:34.720 powerhouse of South Korea's film industry and a magnet for festivals, 154 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:38.959 artistic gatherings. Nature lovers also flock here for it's stunning 155 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:43.000 beaches and regumidating hot springs that occur there, breath taking 156 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.000 coast landscapes. There's a perfect blend of arts and outdoors 157 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.040 adventure to say the least. Like the city's prominence also 158 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:53.519 extends like beyond this this culture and natural appear. But 159 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.759 there is a lot of that. But it is also 160 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:00.399 home to one of the world's most significant seaports. Port 161 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.879 ranks sixth globally, handling almost twenty two million twenty foot 162 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.399 shipping containers annually. 163 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:12.319 Gosh, yeah, huh, that's what you would probably call a bustling. 164 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:17.000 City one hundred percent a bustling city. Yeah, it's very 165 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:21.040 easy to i mean, feel alone in a place like that, 166 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.000 so much going on around you. Yeah, it's scary. How 167 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:29.920 many people in bustling cities like that have that feeling 168 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:31.480 of being so alone. 169 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.360 Yeah, that is interesting, And I think we've mentioned it before, 170 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.159 like we our city isn't huge or anything, but we have. 171 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.519 We traveled to Vancouver quite often and being like in 172 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.559 the skytrain, for example, you are literally like just next 173 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.080 to so many people, but it's one of the places 174 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:50.480 you feel the most alone. 175 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.120 Yeah, and it's strange because everyone's in their own little bubble. 176 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:57.000 Everyone has so much to do that everyone sees so 177 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:01.320 many people, they don't you know, engage with every single person, right, Yeah, 178 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.919 Whereas like you go to a small town, people will 179 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:06.399 hold the door open for you, say hello or smile, 180 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:09.039 and you know, maybe make a joke in the frozen 181 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.679 foods aisle about the pizza that they had last week 182 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.879 and how they don't recommend it or something like that. 183 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:16.480 You know. Yeah, you don't get that in the large cities, 184 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.360 at least not to the same degree. So it is 185 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:21.480 very easy to feel alone. 186 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:24.039 That's funny. I literally had this moment the other day 187 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:27.480 where I was at in like a convenience store, grabbing 188 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.480 a sandwich and someone was like, I had the rib 189 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:34.080 one last week and it was really good. Oh thank you. 190 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:39.360 See there we go. But yeah, we digress a little 191 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.720 bit here. Despite this bustling economy, the vibrant lifestyle, Busan, 192 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.480 much like South Korea, is regarded as a safe haven, 193 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:48.600 even though it is you know, easy to feel alone. 194 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:52.039 This reputation for security is part of what made today's 195 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:55.120 case very shocking, which is kind of how it became 196 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.399 quite widespread in this country with like crimes that are 197 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:03.559 such rare, so rare like this. So yeah, this is boussain. 198 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.399 This is where today's story takes place with an individual 199 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:10.840 name of by the name of jung Yu jung So 200 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:14.080 in the early mornings, sorry early hours of the morning 201 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.960 of Monday, March twenty seventh, twenty twenty three. So this 202 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.759 is last year. Yeah, very fresh case, no shit. A 203 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.600 taxi driver in Bussin made a phone call that would 204 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:30.360 set off a chain of events. At around three am. 205 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:32.720 The driver had picked up a young woman carrying a 206 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:35.360 large suitcase. So this is quite early in the morning. 207 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:37.559 She flagged him down on the side of the street 208 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.039 and asked to be dropped off near wooded area along 209 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:44.559 Knakdong riverside, which is close to Hapo station. The request 210 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:47.240 in itself was routine. I mean, the time of night 211 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.399 was not abnormal, the location was not abnormal, the area 212 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.200 was familiar to the driver. He's driven similar routes many 213 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:58.240 times before, and their journey began with no incident. However, 214 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:00.720 things took a little bit of a disturbing turn when 215 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.559 the woman went to exit the taxi. As the driver 216 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.919 helped him load her suitcase from the trunk, he noticed 217 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:10.480 a dark liquid seeping from underneath it. Now it is 218 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:13.120 quite dark outside right now, remember it's three am. 219 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:14.679 Yeah, but he was. 220 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:17.639 Curious and a little unsettled, and he kind of felt 221 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:22.000 it on his hand. It was thick, wet and unmistakably 222 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.679 red and it appeared to be blood. 223 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:29.320 That was and this story was underneath the suitcase. 224 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.679 It was leaking from the suitcase. So it was like, yeah, 225 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:34.879 leaking out from the underside and has he like lifted 226 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:36.519 it out and he like kind of noticed it and 227 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:40.759 like looked at his hand and there it was Holy shit, Now, 228 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.240 the woman was a little bit oblivious to this discovery. 229 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.039 She didn't seem to notice that it was leaking, or 230 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.480 that this man had noticed that it was leaking either, okay, 231 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:49.960 and she moved towards the dark wooded area where she 232 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.279 was requested to be dropped off with the suitcase and 233 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:57.519 tow The driver remained calmed, concealing his panic. He waved 234 00:11:57.519 --> 00:12:00.159 goodbye and watched her disappear into the shadows, before returning 235 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.120 to his vehicle the trunk of his vehicle to inspect it. 236 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:06.440 He opened the trunk up from there and there it 237 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:09.840 was a small pool of blood on the carpet of 238 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:15.120 his taxicab, confirming his worst fears. Oh yeah, whatever was 239 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:17.519 in that suitcase wasn't just ordinary luggage. 240 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.840 WHOA what a wild? Like like why I was going 241 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:24.200 to say ride, but it literally is a ride for him? 242 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.399 Like that's insane. 243 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:30.200 Yeah, that's something you don't exactly expect to occur on 244 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:35.120 your irregular shift. No, So the man, acting swiftly contacted 245 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:38.039 South Korea's emergency service, dialing one one two, which is 246 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:41.080 the equivalent of our North American nine to one to one. 247 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.360 He detailed his account to authorities and they wasted no time, 248 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:48.720 dispatching officers to the area. Within minutes, A search of 249 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.759 the dense woodland near Knacktong Riverside began. So under the 250 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.679 cover of the night and their flashlights shining through the trees, 251 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:59.639 police uncovered a chilling scene. They didn't find the woman 252 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.000 who had walked in there so willingly with the suitcase, 253 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:06.639 but they did find mutilated body parts that were scattered 254 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:11.720 across the ground. It was evident that this isolated area 255 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.840 had been chosen to conceal a horrific crime. 256 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.120 Oh so she went all the way out there, but 257 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.519 she didn't bury any of the body, like any of 258 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.720 the body just scattered it about. 259 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:24.759 Correct. 260 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:26.320 Huh. 261 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.240 Now, she may have intended to do some burying. I 262 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:29.600 don't know. 263 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:33.000 Oh okay, but they like found they yeah, okay, may have. 264 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:36.759 I don't believe so, But I'm not going to say 265 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:38.840 she didn't because I mean, hey, I don't know what 266 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:42.159 her intentions were, right, because. 267 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:43.840 Right now listening to this, I'm like, what the hell, 268 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:45.120 what the hell? 269 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:45.960 What is it? 270 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:47.000 Ain't the perfect crime? 271 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.240 Lady, You don't why don't Why don't you think this. 272 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.320 Is Well, look at how many mistakes she's already made. 273 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.000 Like holy like what like what name them? Let's hear them? 274 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:58.639 Well, the fact that I don't know, I feel like 275 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:01.039 the fact that she hate there's so many the fact 276 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.679 that she took like a cab to this the site 277 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.440 I feel like isn't great, Like it'd probably been better 278 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.919 to like rent the car or something, you know, okay, 279 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:14.799 because you're introducing a potential with yeah. 280 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:15.399 Yeah. 281 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.120 And the fact that I mean she wasn't aware that 282 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.159 like the body is going to be leaking through this suitcase, 283 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.279 like that's I mean, it's going to happen. 284 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.000 Yeah. 285 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:29.559 And then the fact that it's just like I don't know, 286 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.320 not digging a hole, I guess, and just like placing 287 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:35.000 the body in there, I mean, going to like a 288 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:38.200 secluded area makes sense. But then I think you need 289 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:40.200 to like you know, bury it and move on. 290 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.600 Yeah. And I mean, honestly, I don't know what the 291 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:47.159 knack Doong riverside like the park area looks like. But 292 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:50.519 this is quite the bustling city, very dense population. So 293 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:53.639 I'm imagining this isn't in the middle of nowhere, okay. 294 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:56.840 Because see I'm thinking like our dense forests and stuff. No, 295 00:14:56.919 --> 00:14:58.559 and it's I'm sure it's much different. 296 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.720 I'm assuming this is a still within the city, and 297 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.399 I don't think even if she didn't have a witness, 298 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:07.600 someone's probably going to find these remains sooner or later. 299 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.159 So yeah, burying them would help conceal them for the 300 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:10.919 long run. 301 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:14.000 Because even like someone wanting to go to a park 302 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:17.639 or whatever with a freaking Gina's suitcase is a bit weird. 303 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:21.320 At three am. Yeah, yeah, so there's some suspicions there. 304 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:23.600 I agree wholeheartedly with you. If you're going to be 305 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:28.960 wanting to commit this perfect crime, you're fucking up so far. Well. 306 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.120 Thanks to the driver's quick thinking and the evidence that 307 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:34.120 was left behind, police were able to actually identify and 308 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:37.399 track the woman back to her home within just three 309 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:42.039 hours of stepping out of the taxi. The young woman 310 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:44.639 was identified as twenty three year old Jong Yung Jung. 311 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.360 Investigators were able to piece together her movements using surveillance 312 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:50.960 footage from the area where the taxi had picked her up. 313 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.399 The evidence, combined with the taxi driver's detailed account, what's 314 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.519 compelling enough for authorities to secure a search warrant for 315 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:58.519 her residence. 316 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.360 She's young, she is twenty three. 317 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.559 Now, it's important to note that South Korea has very 318 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:08.919 stringent privacy laws regarding disclosure of names and details of 319 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.960 individuals involved in criminal cases. Okay, so, since nineteen ninety one, 320 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:15.320 these laws have been in place to protect both victims 321 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:20.320 and suspects, ensuring their identities remain private. However, exceptions can 322 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.759 be made under the Special Act of Punishment of Specific 323 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:28.279 violent Crimes. This legislation allows for the release of information 324 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:31.679 in cases of severe violence where public safety may be 325 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:35.600 at risk. In this instance, the heinous nature of the 326 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:41.039 crime justified revealing Jong Yung Jong's identity. You providing society 327 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.600 with the awareness of this potential danger at large. Right, 328 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.840 So her name was release because of that, you know, 329 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:52.960 falling under the specific heinous nature whatever. Right, So, now 330 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:55.360 who is Jong Yung jung? Well, at just twenty three 331 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:58.840 year years old, Jong's life was shape with a mix 332 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:02.960 of solitude and un aspirations. Born in nineteen ninety nine, 333 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.119 she grew up in the northern district of Busaine with 334 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:09.519 parents who were reportedly too busy to really care for her, 335 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:12.559 so she was raised primarily by her grandfather, a figure 336 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:16.039 who played a central role in her upbringing. For her, 337 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:20.960 her academic journey was relatively unremarkable. She attended Kungji Girls 338 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:24.279 High School, a private secondary school, where she was described 339 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.799 as a bit of an odd kind of loner or 340 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.640 an individual. Classmates recalled her as quiet, often sitting at 341 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.119 the back of the classroom, detached from those around her. 342 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:38.039 She wasn't bullied by any means, but neither did she 343 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:42.119 make any meaningful connections with anyone. Any attempts from anyone 344 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.319 to engage her were typically met with silence or a 345 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:49.680 vacant stare from her, and after graduation, she largely severed 346 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.799 any ties that she had with any peers. For the 347 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.400 next five years. After graduating, John remained unemployed, dedicating her 348 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:00.799 time to preparing for South Korea's Civil Service RI exam. 349 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:04.039 This test was a gateway to careers in public service 350 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:08.160 and requires a high level of English proficiency, a skill 351 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.119 that proved to be a stumbling block for her. Now 352 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:13.960 at twenty three, her English abilities were equivalent to someone 353 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.519 in Korea at the high school level, adding to her 354 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.680 challenges and frustration because she just couldn't quite seem to 355 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:24.519 get the knack for this language. As time went on, 356 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:28.640 her isolation deepened. She rarely ventured outside, avoiding forms of 357 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:32.599 new social connections and showed little interest in expanding horizons. 358 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.279 Jong's world grew smaller with each passing year, and by 359 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:38.799 this point in her life, she had developed a deep 360 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:44.880 fascination with the true crime genre. Her interest, though, went 361 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.799 beyond casual curiosity. She was a true crime enthusiast to 362 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:52.160 the point of obsession. Her collection included dozens of books 363 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.799 and novels detailing murder cases, a steady stream of Korean 364 00:18:55.880 --> 00:19:00.200 true crime shows, and a particular fixation on certain serial killers. 365 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:04.480 She constantly immersed herself in stories of no notorious criminals 366 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:09.359 and gruesome events. Which I mean the play Devil's Advocate 367 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:13.160 isn't abnormal behavior from my perspective, Like I research a 368 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.400 lot of murders on a weekly basis. 369 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:18.960 Yeah, but you have like a podcast. 370 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.759 So someone can I'm sure we have people who listen 371 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:25.200 to the same podcasts that I produce with you, and 372 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.119 they're listening on a weekly basis too. 373 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.119 And listen to other shows as Oh yeah, Like, I mean, 374 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:31.480 a few things that you mentioned in there weren't alarming, 375 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.920 like sitting down, you know, listening to true crime or 376 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:37.079 a few episodes even a day, isn't it? But like 377 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.039 the fascination that she had with like certain serial killers 378 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:42.799 and stuff. I don't know. 379 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.960 I still don't see it as a red flag. No, No, 380 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.519 I don't, Okay, because there's people out there who have 381 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.400 a fascination with Ted Bundy. He's like the main one 382 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:54.839 we can just pull out and talk about, right, Like 383 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:56.880 people are like they know all about Ted Bundy. You 384 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.279 know what, they even think he's hot, Okay, whatever, whatever 385 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.079 floats your boat. That's what he was banking on when 386 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:04.039 he was trying to kill people. So we know if 387 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:05.960 he talked to you, you would have been dead. But 388 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:06.680 I digress. 389 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:07.799 Oh my god. 390 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:11.119 So I don't think there's anything wrong with, you know, 391 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:14.480 diving into a genre like that. I don't think there's 392 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.400 anything wrong with someone playing modern warfare games Call of 393 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:20.240 Duty and going to war and shooting people up in 394 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:21.920 video games. Doesn't mean they're going to do it in 395 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:22.440 real life. 396 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.880 Well it does, I guess just how you went about 397 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.400 describing it, it does almost seem like it was it was 398 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:31.160 her entire life in a way, though, right, I. 399 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:34.039 Mean it could have been. Yeah, And that's where that 400 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:36.599 fine line comes in. As long as you don't, you know, 401 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.039