WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.759 Join us that you went to Golf by Worldwide Golf 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:06.480 to test drive the new tailor made QI thirty five woods, 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:10.279 the fourth generation of carbonwood technology. This driver unlocks a 4 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:13.599 new level of distance by combining optimal launch conditions and 5 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:17.920 ultimate forgiveness to maximize performance. Book You're fitting in store 6 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.960 or online. You went to Golf by Worldwide Golf, proudly 7 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.839 serving golfer since nineteen seventy one and home to the 8 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:28.640 legendary ninety day one hundred percent satisfaction guaranteed. 9 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:32.119 Get there. My goodness, it's been too long. 10 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:35.000 And Paul Pugmer, I've got to say I was very 11 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.399 excited to see you on the rundown, but I knew 12 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:39.200 it was going to hurt my heart to talk about 13 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:42.759 golf as I'm recovering from a rotator cuff injury and 14 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:45.280 the weather is still cold and I'm just pining to 15 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:45.679 get out. 16 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:47.359 How are you dealing with the cold weather, sir? 17 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:55.880 I'm grumpy, I'm short tampered that I've been thinking about 18 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:58.399 your spence. I've been wondering how the shoulder's doing. That 19 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:03.119 one is a big suck. That's a tough one, man. 20 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:04.359 Yeah, it was rough. 21 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:07.519 Is I just finished my sixth week of physical therapy, 22 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:10.079 and my physical therapist at the start of the process said, 23 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.040 you have to make me one promise and I said, 24 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:13.799 what's that. He said, you will not swing a golf 25 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:16.719 club until I tell you that you can. And I said, 26 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:18.719 I promise, And as of today he told me that 27 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:20.480 I can. So I'm going to start swinging next week. 28 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.840 I've not swung a club, Paul in probably three months, 29 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:24.200 and it's breaking my heart. 30 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:30.640 Yeah, get stretched out, get warm, make sure you're warm 31 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:32.159 before you do it. You don't want to re injure 32 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:32.560 that thing. 33 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:34.599 No, for sure, I want to be healthy when the 34 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.519 weather's warm. Here's a question that as the golf expert 35 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.280 on the program, you can answer for golfers such as us, 36 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.640 with the conditions as they are right now. What's the 37 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.280 best way to keep momentum up when you're not able 38 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:49.879 to get out as much as you want to make 39 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:51.959 sure that when you start playing come spring, you're not 40 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:52.760 super rusty. 41 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:59.319 Yeah. Obviously we can now talk about a wide variety 42 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:05.519 of options and really good options. On simulators. There's there's 43 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.799 three or four different kinds of simulators in the market. 44 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:13.919 There's several simulator facilities I'm most partial to t Box. 45 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:19.520 I think they've really cracked the code on marrying all 46 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:23.000 of the different aspects that need to be accomplished to 47 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:27.360 succeed with golf. They do fitness and training together with 48 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:33.039 golf experience and golf training with track Man, track Man simulators, 49 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.680 and so there's a lot of opportunity with the track 50 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:39.919 with track Man and others like it, with the simulators. Now, 51 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.479 to really answer your question, get out on the golf 52 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:47.000 course as much as you can. Simulators don't yet replicate 53 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.879 well the experience of hitting off of grass, and then 54 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.599 one you're there, the key to making it work is 55 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:01.039 to really tamp down your expectations. You just want to 56 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.520 swing and move and hit some shots. Trying to make 57 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:08.560 a score in really tough conditions like this is just 58 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:10.919 a recipe for making yourself feel bad. 59 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.240 That's no fun, Yeah, for sure, for sure. 60 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:16.599 So I want to ask you, as a result of 61 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:20.360 the you know, the PGA Tour coming to Utah and 62 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:24.560 good players, good golfers coming out of Utah, are we 63 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:27.800 seeing a state that is now firmly on the map. 64 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.560 You know, people from around the country planning trips to 65 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.960 southern Utah and such as a result of the exposure 66 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:36.639 that our golf scene has received over the past couple 67 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:38.719 of years. 68 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:42.439 No question. Yeah, and that's a really good observation. Yes, 69 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.199 black Desert in southern Utah plays a really big role 70 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.199 in that Sand Hollow plays a really big role in 71 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.120 that San Hollo already has for the last decade, has 72 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:56.400 been on gosh a couple dozen different best of lists 73 00:03:56.680 --> 00:04:04.560 of various kinds, and and so the the the Utah game, 74 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.479 but it's players especially, and look, Tony Fenale is leading 75 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:10.759 the way with that absolutely, but there are others. You know, 76 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.719 Peter Quest was the number one ranked college player for 77 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.399 most of his senior year that got a lot of 78 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:22.480 attention nationwide. Right now, the junior game in Utah is 79 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:25.040 getting a lot of attention with Lone Peak High school 80 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:30.040 senior Kiakina recently named to the USGA junior national team. 81 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:37.759 And then you know other native Utah players in addition 82 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:42.959 to Tony, obviously Zach Blair, Patrick Fishburne, Daniel Summer Hayes. 83 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.240 We're a time when we have as many native born 84 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.839 players on the tour as Arizona does, and so it's 85 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:54.560 it's really it's a very good time for Utah Golf 86 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:58.079 and then it all circles background to Black Desert. And 87 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.319 not only the PGA Tour coming, which it did last 88 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:05.120 fall and will again next fall, but the LPGA coming 89 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:06.160 in May as well. 90 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:11.600 So you reference Tony, I'm pulling up the Genesis scoreboard 91 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.800 now and we'll get to where he's at so far. 92 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:18.519 I know he struggled round one, but overall, how would 93 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.439 you characterize the start of the season for our guy, 94 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:22.279 for Tony Fino. 95 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.160 The big thing to keep in mind with Tony is 96 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.879 that he's coming off a knee surgery. Remember, it kept 97 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.959 him out of the Grant Thornton that he would have 98 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:32.759 played with Nellie Corda. It kept him out of the 99 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:39.040 Hero and which is unfortunate. This was a think of 100 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.040 it as a stress fracture kind of. It was a 101 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:45.199 MILEG kind of a kind of an injury. There wasn't 102 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:51.079 anything impact or or catastrophic in his getting hurt. He 103 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:55.160 just wore around. And so he's still coming back from 104 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.879 the knee surgery. Obviously the doctors say he can play, 105 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:01.199 but his results are a little spotty. He's had a 106 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.279 couple of good showings, he's had a couple of cremy showings. 107 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:08.240 It's really interesting to see how yesterday he really struggled 108 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.560 at Tory Pines. Now, granted Tory is a great and 109 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:17.360 very difficult golf course, anybody can struggle, but it was cold, 110 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.439 it was wet, it was really uncomfortable, and there was 111 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:25.600 no joy in Mudviill yesterday down at Tory and Tony 112 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.759 did not do well, and I think it had to 113 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:31.519 do with trying to get his surgically repaired knee around 114 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.000 the golf course. And today he's playing fine. Today it's 115 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.480 warm and sunny and he's playing fine. 116 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:37.279 Yeah, he is. 117 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.519 I just saw three under today and hopefully he'll make 118 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:40.879 the Cotton play through the weekend. 119 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:42.720 Let's stay with the Genesis. 120 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.680 You know, I've heard Paul in the past a lot 121 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.279 of players talk about this is one of their and 122 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:50.839 I think maybe even Tony at some point talked about 123 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:53.759 the Genesis as being one of his favorites, and a 124 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.079 lot of golfers saying, as far as non majors go, 125 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:57.720 they really look forward to this tournament. 126 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.879 Can can you help us understand why it is? 127 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:04.279 It is a one of the world's great golf courses. 128 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:06.879 It'll be in the top twenty of most any list 129 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.160 of the top courses in the world. I'm talking about 130 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.879 the South Tory South. There's thirty six holes there and 131 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:17.639 it has hosted a couple of major championships. US Opens 132 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.759 there won by Tiger Woods and then John Rahn, so 133 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:23.800 of course brings out the best of the best in 134 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:28.800 the best tournaments. They It's a place where the Tiger 135 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:33.000 has won eight times in the rotation when it goes 136 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.319 through there each year on the Farmers. It's right on 137 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:42.720 the cliffs overlooking the ocean that is spectacular. It also 138 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:47.360 gets real exposure to weather. It's a terrific design. It 139 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:51.519 is simply a great golf course with great history, and 140 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.839 it's a place that people like to come and play. 141 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.120 And then also they like being in San Diego when 142 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:02.399 they're making a visit there. It's a pretty spectacular venue. 143 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:06.439 And you know, last last year I was there in person, 144 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:10.240 and the way things accidentally worked out, I ended up 145 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:14.439 with twenty twenty five minutes just sitting talking with Tony 146 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.480 while he was waiting for something to happen, and we 147 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:21.319 ended up kind of talking like teenage kids, geeking on 148 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:25.720 how cool toy is. And it's very clear Tony loves 149 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:26.319 this place. 150 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:27.920 Very nice. 151 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:30.560 So let's dig into the start of the season for 152 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.399 some other players here as the genesis right now is 153 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:36.799 being led by oh, you know, Scotty. Of course, I 154 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.080 just I just looked. I just look because I know 155 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.240 Danny was up after round one. So Scotty Scheffler, let's 156 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.000 let's dig into his his game a little bit, because 157 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:49.960 of course he's coming back from a really a historically 158 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:53.360 successful year last year and be a really weird one 159 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.679 where my man got arrested and then cut his hand 160 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:59.440 like cooking, and so you know, we have seen him 161 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:01.519 back on the court for a couple of different tournaments, 162 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.759 and every time I'd watch, the analysts would say, look, 163 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:06.399 he's still getting you know, he's still kind of getting 164 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.039 his form back, and once he does, we're going to 165 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:09.519 see Scotty do Scotty things. 166 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.600 And here he is leading the tournament. 167 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.600 So what's your take on the start of the season 168 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.639 so far for the world number one golfer Scotty Scheffler. 169 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.639 Well, apparently the ham surgery worked for him. He seems 170 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:21.440 to be okay. 171 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:25.159 And you know this, this is. 172 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:29.399 Exactly the kind of golf course where Scotty scheffer game works. 173 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:34.840 He Scotty is so good at not giving away shots, 174 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:38.399 at not putting himself in a position where he's got 175 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:44.159 to be a magician to just hold serve. And that's 176 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.799 what he's been doing today. I've been watching some of 177 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.720 it today and he just hole after hole is putting 178 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.440 himself in the right position. And then he gets to 179 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:57.159 fifteen and it's a par five, knocks one in out 180 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.080 of the bunker for a three and picks up two 181 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:04.320 shots and Bam is tied to the lead. He Scott 182 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:10.159 Scheffler's game is built on the not spectacular, which you know, 183 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.720 good Land Nicholas did well with that approach to it, 184 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.799 Hogan did well with that approach to it, Tiger did 185 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:22.639 well with that approach to it. And Scotty is the 186 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.360 number one player in the world right now by being 187 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:27.440 smart and not getting shopped away. 188 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.240 So tied for third is where we find young, well 189 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.039 not so young, but Rory McElroy was young once upon 190 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:34.360 a time. 191 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:36.039 He's still a young dude, but you know, you know 192 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:36.399 the deal. 193 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:40.480 And it's been interesting, Paul to watch Rory to start 194 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:44.720 the year because he is on that wild major you 195 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:46.440 know streak where he hasn't won a major in a 196 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.320 number of years and he nearly did it, you know, 197 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:50.639 a couple of times, and missed some putts last year. 198 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:53.200 But he wins at Pebble Beach, he wins the AT 199 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.960 and T Pebble Beach Pro Am, and he's off to 200 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.960 a phenomenal start to the calendar year. It's only a month. 201 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:02.559 Do you think this is the year Rory gets it 202 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:03.879 done in a major? And what do you make of 203 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:05.639 the start of the season for Rory McElroy. 204 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:08.679 Well, first of all, I really hope he gets it done. 205 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:12.879 Rory is so easy to cheer for, love watching him 206 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:16.679 play the game. And look when his wedges are solid, 207 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:20.279 that's where he gives away strokes normally. When his wedges 208 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.799 are solid, he's going to do great things. However, I 209 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:26.279 did have to grimace and laugh at the same time 210 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.759 a moment ago he missed a four foot downhill left 211 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:33.519 right slider, which was exactly the putts he missed on 212 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.759 a seventy second hole at Pinehurst in US opened last year. 213 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:40.440 I thought, Rory, I think that might be a rich 214 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:45.960 vein to mine to pick up some shots there. I 215 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.080 would love to see Rory do well. The big difference 216 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:53.399 with Rory this year so far is. He has said 217 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:57.639 that he is disengaging going he's getting off the field 218 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:02.240 of play in all of the politics and organizational issues 219 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.480 of the game. He's simply going to be a golfer. 220 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:09.080 And you can see what he can do. You see, 221 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.120 I saw that at a pebble and what a great 222 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.519 what a great win to put on your resume Pebble Beach. 223 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.440 When he's focusing on his game, that's what he does. 224 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:20.679 Let me let me ask you about Tiger and his 225 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.120 mother who passed. You know, a lot of the attention, 226 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:27.360 you know, historically when Tiger was becoming Tiger, and then 227 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.480 when he was dominating pro golf, and then when he 228 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:34.320 became a global icon, was the SoundBite you'd hear from Earl, 229 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:37.120 his dad, who when Tiger was a kid, he'd say 230 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:38.879 he's going to have an effect on the planet. 231 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.399 That's a kin to Jesus and things like that. 232 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.240 And you know, Earl was the one who was front 233 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:48.639 facing about who Tiger was and who Tiger was going 234 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.000 to become under his watch. But when I read the 235 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.000 biography then watched the documentary, it's clear that Tiger's mom 236 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:00.440 certainly had a very very big influence on him as well. 237 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:02.919 She has passed and Tiger elected not to play this 238 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.159 weekend after we thought he would. So can you illuminate 239 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:09.519 us a little bit on just what this relationship entailed 240 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.120 for Tiger Woods and your thoughts on her passing and 241 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:13.159 what this could mean for him. 242 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.840 Yeah, it was sad to see her pass away, no question. 243 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:21.399 I think she was remarkable. I think she's one of 244 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:26.000 the great women of our time. She knew that she 245 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:29.679 was raising a genius when he was two years old. 246 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:33.960 She knew that she was raising a kid who had 247 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:37.240 potential to be certainly the best in the world and 248 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.919 among the best of all time by the time that 249 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:42.960 he was an early teenager. And she did it. And 250 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:46.639 I think that's a really difficult place to be. And 251 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:54.679 she stepped up and she did it. Earl Woods enjoyed provocation, 252 00:13:55.000 --> 00:14:02.120 He enjoyed rattling the bells and getting response. And Clofita 253 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:07.279 Wood did. Woods did not. She was very averse to 254 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:11.639 attention to the spotlight. She did her great work behind 255 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.799 the scenes and in a low key fashion. But there's 256 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:18.039 no question all along when you read about Tiger's upbringing, 257 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:22.480 you when you know about Tiger's him becoming Tiger and 258 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.399 I love the way you said that, It's not just 259 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.720 him becoming Tiger when he's at Stanford or a young 260 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.759 pro or whatever. No, it starts when he's two years old. 261 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:34.159 It's him as a five year old winning eleven and 262 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:37.279 twelve year old tournaments. It's him as a teenager getting 263 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:39.879 to tee it up in the Genesis. It's those are 264 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.360 the years he really was becoming Tiger Woods. And those 265 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.480 are the years when his mom, cale Tita, really had 266 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.879 her big influence and her big impact. And I think 267 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:49.919 she was a great person. 268 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:52.519 So what do you and look at? 269 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.279 I know that Tiger is far past, you know, being 270 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.159 who he once was, but he still is that dude, right, 271 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:02.000 So yeah, do you think we're going to see him 272 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:03.080 much at all this year? 273 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:04.840 And what are you hearing about how healthy he is? 274 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:10.879 Well, he's not that healthy, we know that, but yes 275 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.039 we will see him. We will see him because a 276 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.399 fire burns in that man like burns in no other. 277 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:21.879 And he is by many statistical measurements, he is the 278 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:28.039 most transcendent athlete of any sport. And you just don't 279 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:32.080 keep that kind of greatness down. Now. The reality is 280 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:36.919 he is now I lose track forty eight or forty nine, 281 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:39.559 I think forty eight years old, and his body has 282 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:44.960 been just beat to smotherings. But if anybody can find 283 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.919 a way, it's Tiger Woods. And I've said this before, 284 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:52.519 Tiger's not done until Tiger says he's done. 285 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:56.279 Yeah, No, I'm with you. I'm with you. 286 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.639 So you reference that Rory McElroy has elected to just 287 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.480 kind of hone in on golf. Well, he still is 288 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.840 talking about what the future of pro golf could be, 289 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.559 and he believes, like a lot of people believe, at 290 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.639 some point, this live PGA thing. 291 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.080 Has to just happen. I've kind of tapped out of 292 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:16.039 all the updates. 293 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:17.440 And I'm just more of like, all right, just let 294 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:18.799 me know when this is going down. 295 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:20.679 But there are a. 296 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:22.960 Lot of really good players that are on the live 297 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.679 tour that I just miss watching play. And their overnight 298 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:30.600 rating for the last tournament came in and nineteen thousand 299 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.759 people watch live golf. That is the same rating that 300 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.360 a show called here Comes Honey Boo Boo pulled in 301 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:41.879 twenty sixteen at one am on Turner. So people are 302 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:43.799 just not watching it, Paul, and I don't know what 303 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:45.879 they're going to do to try to gain traction because 304 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.919 they already have the players that they thought that they would. 305 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.120 Need in order to draw eyes. 306 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:54.039 So it's not working on live. But I mis watching 307 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.399 those guys play. I wish we could get this done 308 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:58.759 just before we get to some local stuff what you're 309 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:01.080 understanding of as far as where we're at in the 310 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.679 process of maybe finally some sort of reconciliation. 311 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:10.400 They're getting closer by all by all outward appearances, and look, 312 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.599 j Monahan doesn't call me and ask me what I 313 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.759 think or given the updates, which is annoying, but it's 314 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.279 it's the way it is. But I do follow it, 315 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:25.000 and I'm totally with you. I miss seeing these players. 316 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:28.559 I miss seeing Jen Ram where Tory Pines this week. 317 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.799 This is where gen Ram got his first tour victory 318 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:34.759 and where Jen Ram won a US Open. And he 319 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:38.359 has said that he really misses a lot of the 320 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:41.200 PGA Tour and the most especially he misses Tory Pines. 321 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:45.359 So I get that, and I miss seeing John Tory Pines. 322 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.720 And I want to see Koepka and Des Shamble. I 323 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.440 want to see Patrick Reid for having's sakes. I like 324 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:54.960 watching him play, as polarizing as his personality can be. 325 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.160 I would like to see some kind of resolution. The 326 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:04.000 source of the money remains so deeply distasteful, just if 327 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:07.240 not outright offensive, but it is what it is, and 328 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.720 a lot of that got taken away when the PGA 329 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:14.279 Tour said they would take Saudi money as well. But 330 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:20.559 I think that there have been so many, so many 331 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:24.079 boundaries crossed in a positive way, so many steps taken 332 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:26.599 in a positive way over the last two years, that 333 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.559 even though they haven't got it done yet, they're on 334 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:32.039 the verge of getting it done, and I would be 335 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:38.839 unsurprised to see a reconciliation come here shortly. I was 336 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:41.440 really intrigued with what Rory had to say about it, 337 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:42.880 Even though he said he's going to get out of 338 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:46.880 the politics of it. His last point was we've all 339 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:50.680 got to just start from zero and let the past 340 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:52.839 be what it is. That's going to be a hard thing. 341 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:56.240 I think for everybody. What he's saying isles Folcus on 342 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:00.839 the golf and I want to see Kopka and day 343 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:07.920 Chambeau and play against McElroy and Scheffler at Tory. 344 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:13.200 Pines Ryder Cup back this year, so the US Ryder 345 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.160 Cup team will have revenge on the mind before we 346 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.839 get to the local stuff. Just handicap the chances that 347 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:20.839 you believe Tony has of making the squad. 348 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:26.720 First of all, his chances are enhanced by his history 349 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.160 with it. The whole system of the Ryder Cup is 350 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.480 comfortable with picking Tony f now, so if he's around 351 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:36.920 the bubble, there's a history there and people are used 352 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.000 to picking him. And part of the reason that that 353 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.640 history will be enhanced is because Tony's got a solid 354 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.079 record in a national team play both Ryder Cup and 355 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.160 President's Cup, and so he's a reliable dude. You can 356 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:49.920 you can roll him out there and know that he's 357 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:51.640 going to be in the game. He's not going to 358 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:54.559 get blown out, and he's going to compete and he's 359 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:58.119 going to win points. And so that's really to his advantage. 360 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:01.119 The big thing is he's got to get his knee 361 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:05.640 strong so that he can get quality repetitions so that 362 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:09.720 he can build points. He knows that. I do think 363 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:11.880 getting into the warmer part of the year will make 364 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:16.000 a difference for that with Tony. We're still so early 365 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.079 in the year. There's a lot of there's gonna be 366 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.119 a lot of Joscelyn in the Ryder Cup standings, and 367 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:23.119 I expect Tony to be a big part of it. 368 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:25.599 All, right, Paul, before I said you lose the latest 369 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:28.240 on the Utah golf scene, what you have your eye 370 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:30.640 on here locally, and what our listeners can expect coming 371 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:32.079 up on Utah Golf Radio. 372 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.480 There's a college tournament going on in Hawaii as we 373 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:40.319 speak after it's called the John Burns. After the first round, 374 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:43.720 the University of Utah Utes were in first place. UIU 375 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:47.480 is in fourth place. And part of the real fun 376 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.559 of this is that Sergio Himenez the a sep on 377 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.720 the hill for the Utes. In the practice round he 378 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:58.000 threw down a slipt little five to nine, A fifty 379 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:04.119 nine action for Sergia, I know, right. So the Utes 380 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.200 are ranked number sixteen in the country. It's the highest 381 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.200 they've ever been ranked in the history of the school, 382 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:11.960 and they are showing it this week. It's a really deep, 383 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.880 strong field at the Burns. Of course, everybody wants to 384 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.680 go to Hawaii in February, right, and the youths are 385 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:21.240 spanking them. So yeah, we're going to be looking at 386 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:24.480 that on the show Saturday. We're going to spend some 387 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:29.880 time talking with Al Riddell, who is Patrick Fishburne's new caddy, 388 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.160 And we're going to get to get to know Patrick Slooper. 389 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:34.920 That's going to be a lot of fun. 390 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:37.720 Well, Paul, my friend, you've been coming on the show 391 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:40.799 for over five years, so you know, February means it's time, 392 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:43.359 you know, to really move on from this whole cold 393 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:45.799 weather thing. And I'm ready to swing a club. So 394 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.440 I'm trying to be more of solutions. We need snow 395 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.200 for the ski resorts, but I'm ready to be out 396 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:51.200 of Bonnie on Saturdays. 397 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:52.000 I'll tell you that much. 398 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:55.680 I want to be there right there with you. I 399 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:57.359 hear you, brother, my man. 400 00:21:57.400 --> 00:21:58.720 Thanks for the time, Toda, have a good weekend. 401 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:03.920