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Speaker 1: Brian, we have just been exacerbated. We can't be speechless

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because we're doing a major market radio show. But the

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approach where this team controlled its own destiny for the

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first time, now it doesn't control its own destiny. How stunned,

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aren't you at the lack of offense and just the

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lack of urgency that has hit this twenty six man,

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twenty eight man roster here the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm stunned. I mean, like everybody, I thought

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after the swept the Rangers. You know, a week ago

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they were tied for first place. You had the Mariners

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come into town, and I knew that would be a

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tough series. But even after they lost that series, I

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was like, Okay, I mean, they still got this favorable schedule,

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but the A's have been a bad matchup for them

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for for whatever reason. I mean, they cannot beat the A's.

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And then and then last night when the several Reno's

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pitching and oh he's terrible at home and you know where,

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you know where this is gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many times have they faced.

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Speaker 2: A pitcher who is struggling our major league debut and

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he's gonna come out and carve him up, and he

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did just that, so and you know, in a way

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it's stunning, But then it's kind of the way that

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seasons played out. And yeah, I mean now I think

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they have to win out and out to have any chance,

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so they put themselves in that spot.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had a caller asking about it. Is

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Joe doing the motivational thing? Is he trying to fire

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him up? If whatever he's doing it's not working. You

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are in that clubhouse. And we always talk about if

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you all of a sudden change who you are in

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Game one, p. Fifty nine of the season, you're gonna

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lose that clubhouse. But generally speaking, you've gone into probably

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a very solemn, very quiet clubhouse the last couple of days.

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Give me some thought or two from the veterans that

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you're talking to about what they're seeing and what they're

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doing in terms of not performing, not only not in performing,

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but going to a ballpark that's one of the most

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hit or friendly in manjor League baseball. I'm going to

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put together one run in the last two days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: With first of all, with baseball clubhouses, it's very much

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the same pretty much every day they play so many

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games you go in there after a winner loss. For

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the most part, you wouldn't know unless if they win,

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there's usually music playing. If they lose, there's not, So

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there hasn't been a lot of music playing lately, but

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you can you can sense the frustration from the guys.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Christian Walker talked.

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Speaker 2: A lot about it the other day, and are we pressing?

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, you know how you define that,

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Speaker 2: I know, I know the fans want Joe to go

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in there, and you know, be Eorrol Weaver, and I mean,

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it's just not the way it works anymore. I mean,

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it's just not the way baseball managers are wired. And

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I know that he just talk to these guys, but hey,

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it's up to them to go out there and get

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it done. I mean, they're getting paid big money. If

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they can't get fired up for these games, getting motivated

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to play these games, that's on them and not the manager.

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And I mean, obviously the injuries have caught up with

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his team, but you know, framber Valdez's collapsed.

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Speaker 3: You know, our two days faded, Cam Smith faded.

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Speaker 2: I think really the loss of Alvarez and Antanion not

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playing in the last three days just been devastating for them.

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I don't know if I answer good question, but I

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just ranted a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Now you're good. I like it. You gave us great materials.

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Always think why we pay you the big bucks, Brian.

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We appreciate it. And to that end, you know you're

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talking about Joe Spota. I mean, it's the collapse of

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this level. Even just a week ago, I would have said,

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I feel like everybody's pretty much safe. And this comes

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from the players, the coaches, whatever. How are you feeling

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if this keeps going the way that it has about

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this offseason upcoming for Joe Aspota, for the hitting coaches

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who've been under a lot of public pressure, and for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a lot of tough questions, tough decisions

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they have to be made. I mean, yeah, I wrote

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a couple of weeks ago I thought Spotta would be

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manager of the year if they won the division.

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen.

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just kind of guessing. So, you know, I think they'll

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review their medical staff and their you know, return to

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play procedures to see where they're at. But I think

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Speaker 3: What do you do? Uh? Hay Stus Sanchez looks like

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a guy that's going to be non tender to me.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna make a little bit of money, so you know,

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he's not been a good acquisition. So I think they

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they walk past him, but they have to go get

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some pitching big time. I don't know if that's trade

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free agency. Do you trade one of your start players

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to get some pitching. There's just a lot of ways

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they can go. But injuries have devastated him, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Well, not the offseason yet from er Valde is also

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an interesting offseason. It's gonna be for him as well.

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it feels like the times where you doubt from are

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the most is when he comes through. But I've been

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doubting him the most the last few times he's been

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out there, and he just has not been able to

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Speaker 3: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. He's just completely lost it here

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over the last couple of months. There one and nine

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in his last ten starts for when he had that

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two month stretch, and every time he pitched they won.

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Speaker 3: I think they won thirteen starts in a row and he.

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Speaker 2: Was automatic and I'm like, he's gonna get cy Young.

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Speaker 3: Votes and it's just completely lost it here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this would be a chance for him and

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you know what could be and probably should be his

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final start in the regular season with the Astros, to see,

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Speaker 3: A stand right here, win this game.

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Speaker 2: Put some pressure on Detroit to win tonight, uh and

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maybe if they can pull even going into the Angels Series,

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they have a chance. But if he goes out there

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and doesn't get it done again, that's it.

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Speaker 3: They're done.

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Speaker 2: So it's sort of Fromber's last stand here with the

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Astros hopes on his back, and that's if you're an

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Speaker 1: A couple more minutes here with Brian McTaggart of the

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MLB dot Com and on the Astros beat with us

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from Sacramento. So what's going through jose L Tuvay's mind?

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with those guys almost every single day, Carlos Karay, you

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get two veteran guys. Korea has been really good since

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coming back. Doesn't have the power that he once had,

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probably never gonna have it again. The Altuve drop has

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live with doing that. But if there have been in

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to be frustrated. And uh, I could tell talking to

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really frustrated. And he even he even said, hey, we

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is our livelihoods Altov has

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been in the playoffs eight years in a row.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be something that's you know, he hasn't

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experienced in a long time when this club was coming

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going up and down their lineup and and then that

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lineup they had JP Crawford hitting ninth and he hits

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Speaker 3: I mean he would you know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they look at the Yankees lineup, Thunder up and

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Speaker 3: Part of it as players regressing. They're just a point

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Speaker 2: They they're gonna have to make some changes offensively to

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Speaker 3: Like I said, it's uh.

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for them to swallowing out making the playoffs. But you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, to me, Brian and I brought this up

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on the show yesterday. A baseball season is in theory

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twenty six weeks. Twenty five of the weeks were like, man,

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this has been cool. This team has overcome so much

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injuries and still in first place and gritty and getting

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these big wins and beating first place teams, and then

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Brian in this twenty sixth a week, it has just

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gone from Wow, these guys are gritty to do they

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give a damn? I mean, hey, Sue Sanchez butchering two

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but I brought this up on social media yesterday. I

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don't want to see him play anymore.

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Speaker 4: I was so discouraged that the team, and I hate

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to use the term listless, but to me, it's been

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listless the last couple of days. And I don't know

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if you've been in if you can do that overcoming

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all the things they have done for so many months,

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with so many injuries and much underperforming to still have

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Speaker 1: I think that's why the frustration is kicked in for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. They do look listless.

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Speaker 2: And when you know the other pictures carving you up

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Speaker 3: Its tough to sit through.

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Speaker 2: You know, I wonder how much the sweet so the

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Mariners just sort of really deflated them to where not

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that they didn't still have a lot to play for

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at that point, but you know, this is a team

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that wins the division every year and sort of you know,

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represented a changing of the guard here. This was a

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the Mariners were out there having a blast. They were

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having fun. You know, they had to try it, and

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the dugout and the team on the other side looked

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much that just took out of them. And they're just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mentioned the lineup and talk about lacking some depth

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bad luck this season? Is is every day catching something

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that is maybe wearing down on him. So it just

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makes me wonder kind of what the future is for

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him as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's another reason he's you know, he's he's.

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Speaker 3: Regressed as well.

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Speaker 2: If I were the Astros, you know, I mentioned non

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tendering Sanchez, I would probably If I'm Dana Brown, I

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would try to trade Jiner. I don't like his approach

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at the plate. You know, defensively, he's got big time limitations.

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I would try to trade him and upgrade that position. Defensively,

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because I don't think jan is gonna be it. So

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I think that's, you know, one of the many things

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they have to look at. In additionally, you know what

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he do with Christian Walker. You know, where do you

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add starting pitching? You know, how do you handle out

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quve going forward? Like I said, I mean this is

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they have a lot of questions that they've never had

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to ask and ask for for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Here it was just hey, roll out.

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Speaker 2: These guys and they're gonna win ninety ninety five games

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and win the division. They're not at that point anymore. So, Uh,

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Dana Brown's got his work cut out for him here

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this offseason, and it's it's gonna be very, very interesting.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate your Thursday visits with us. You're gonna

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come on with us again probably the next couple of

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weeks when all the blankts the fan at some point

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with decisions. So just know that you're always welcome here

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on seven Honey. Thank you for the time, save travels

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down to Anaheim and we'll talk with you very soon.

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Speaker 3: Friend. All Right, guys, enjoyed it, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you got it. Brian McTaggart, I was gonna say,

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we'll look forward to talking with him next Thursday. Well

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can we get him? I mean we're gonna we're gonna

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get him in season wrap up