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<v Speaker 1>Y'all ripped up news, you need advice? Who you don't have?

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<v Speaker 2>Come running just as fast as we can shoot is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna help coming?

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<v Speaker 3>Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Martino here. Let's talk about what we can do

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<v Speaker 3>for you. This is the show that solves problems, answers questions,

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<v Speaker 3>takes complaints, and makes your life a little easier. And

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<v Speaker 3>I do have Major Mark Major with us along with

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Burns Compass Insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian's in the studio along with deputy Doc and Bow.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome one and all, thank you for being here. And

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<v Speaker 4>Brian decided he'd rather be with ugly people than basking

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<v Speaker 4>my rate, your glory here at the ship here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh lord, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian, it's okay you want to be Brian heard. They

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<v Speaker 4>have better piece at the studio by the way. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 4>and Brian will be doing insurance checkups today. And insurance

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<v Speaker 4>checkups are where you get your declarations page and you

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<v Speaker 4>look at what coverage you have and you look to

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<v Speaker 4>see if you're paying too much or maybe you're under insured.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you are. And so Brian, I have a text

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<v Speaker 3>right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 4>From a high individual and this individual high net worth

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<v Speaker 4>individual says, I have an umbrella policy because I've always

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<v Speaker 4>heard you should ensure for your net worth first and foremost, Brian,

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<v Speaker 4>before we move on, which you explain why people should

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<v Speaker 4>ensure for their net worth and not just for a

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<v Speaker 4>sensible amount.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, whenever you get in to and the most common

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<v Speaker 5>time you see an umbrella come into play is after

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<v Speaker 5>an auto accident. So if you get into an auto

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<v Speaker 5>acc and you enter someone and you are let's say

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<v Speaker 5>you're you have a net worth of ten million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>and you have a one million dollar umbrella. If they

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<v Speaker 5>feel like they can get more than that, they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to sue you for a larger amount. Your insurance company

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<v Speaker 5>is going to settle for the million dollars and then

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<v Speaker 5>they're out of it. And at that point you have

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<v Speaker 5>to get your own attorney and you have to protect

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<v Speaker 5>yourself for the remaining amount. So you just want to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that you have an umbrella that would be

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<v Speaker 5>you know, close to your net worth so that if

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<v Speaker 5>you do get sued, your insurance company is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to stay with you through the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you you don't want to be an attractive target

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<v Speaker 3>or you want to have insurance be a more attractive

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<v Speaker 3>target than you are, so they're willing to take insurance

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<v Speaker 3>and move on.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, and you want your insurance company to stay in

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<v Speaker 5>the game. In other words, you know, if they if

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<v Speaker 5>they're on the hook for five million dollars or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>the greater the amount, the less likely they're just going

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<v Speaker 5>to settle. They're going to make sure they kind of

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<v Speaker 5>carry you through the loss.

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought when insurance settles with the other party,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought they make them indemnify you for the future.

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<v Speaker 5>They sure try to, but that's not a guarantee. So

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I've seen it many, many times where an

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<v Speaker 5>insurance company settles because they know that they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>be paying way more than whatever the amount is that

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<v Speaker 5>you have for insurance, and they'll say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>here's your fifty thousand, if that's what you have or

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<v Speaker 5>whatever that amount is, we're out. And at that point

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<v Speaker 5>they don't indemnify them and they can still come after

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<v Speaker 5>the customer.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, while we're on the air, and you do it

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, but while we're on the air, we

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<v Speaker 4>like to highlight insurance checkups. So if you're a home

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<v Speaker 4>or business, either one commercial or residential and you want

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<v Speaker 4>to get your insurance reviewed.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll take just a few minutes. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>stay on the phone while they do it, just take

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<v Speaker 3>your information and then they call you back. You can

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<v Speaker 3>call directly to the help center or to them three

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<v Speaker 3>oh three nine nine six nine thousand, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>can call us as well three oh three nine ninety

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<v Speaker 3>six nine thousand. I want to start with Dawn and

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<v Speaker 3>Dale right now. They were working with Deputy Doc and

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<v Speaker 3>I believe the problem had to do with AutoNation, Doc.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you can you recap that problem?

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<v Speaker 4>It had to do with a twenty thirteen Jeep Grand

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<v Speaker 4>Cherokee right one hundred and eight thousand miles and if

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<v Speaker 4>they bought it for they bought it for sixteen grand

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<v Speaker 4>with a warranty, and after forty six miles the engine

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<v Speaker 4>light came on. Autoonation has had it for two months.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if you remember, I tried to get in touch

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<v Speaker 6>with Autonations and I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Three times on three times you were hung up on

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<v Speaker 3>you were hung up on right.

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<v Speaker 6>So Friday I physically went down to the AutoNation dealership

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<v Speaker 6>on a rapa Hole road and it turns out that

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<v Speaker 6>they don't know. They're a butt from the elbow. But

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<v Speaker 6>there are two places, two different service areas. One is

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<v Speaker 6>for subar rus that are brought there and another one

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<v Speaker 6>is for other makes of cars that are brought there

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<v Speaker 6>for repairs. And apparently there's a secondary lot where the

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<v Speaker 6>car was. So they got in, as far as I remember,

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<v Speaker 6>they got in touch with Dawn and Dale and then

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<v Speaker 6>they were.

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<v Speaker 7>Gonna let me know what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happened when they got in.

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<v Speaker 7>Touch with you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so give us the latest Dawn and.

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<v Speaker 8>Dale from them right, Dad down on Saturday herself and

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<v Speaker 8>ended up getting banned from property.

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<v Speaker 3>Banned from the proper. How do you get banned from

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<v Speaker 3>the property?

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<v Speaker 8>Come on, come on, he kind of made a scene.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought, That's what I thought. I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>But but but wait a minute. How let me talk

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<v Speaker 4>to him? Dale?

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<v Speaker 3>Dale? How did you get banned? All you had to

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<v Speaker 3>do was go down and say, you know, we're working

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<v Speaker 3>with the Martino Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you find the vehicle yet? How did that escalate

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<v Speaker 4>into you getting banned? Tell us what happened? Step by step?

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<v Speaker 4>You show up? Who did you talk to first?

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't talk to anybody first. I went straight to

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<v Speaker 9>the showroom and asked for everybody's attention.

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<v Speaker 10>I was pissed.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked this guy. Now, what do you mean how

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<v Speaker 3>did you get everyone's attention?

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<v Speaker 9>Because I said, I now over the showroom. Can I

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<v Speaker 9>please have everybody's's attention?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Okay, I get you now.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, I know you guys are here to buy

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<v Speaker 9>a car or a truck or something, but do yourself

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<v Speaker 9>a favorite turn around, walk out and never come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, but why didn't you first see?

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<v Speaker 4>Why didn't you first see if Doc's conversation did any good.

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<v Speaker 9>All the people were there, and I know I wasn't

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<v Speaker 9>going to I didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But Dale, you knew your car was in the secondary lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you go over there? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so anyway, after you made this announcement, I'm just curious, Dale,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious when you made this announcement. I am very curious,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, because what Dale did is not illegal

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<v Speaker 4>or wrong in many people's eyes, and he's pissed off.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I want to know, Dale, is when you

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<v Speaker 4>were making the announcement, did anyone leave?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 3>So, no one listened, No one listened to you really,

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<v Speaker 3>So did anyone come and try to stop you from talking?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 9>Then the manager came over and told me that I

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<v Speaker 9>have to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, and of course you you do have to leave

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<v Speaker 4>if they asked you to leave, otherwise it's trespass.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And he said I'll call the cops on you.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, I don't care, So I guess somebody called

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<v Speaker 9>the cops, and the cops came over. By that time,

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<v Speaker 9>I was walking outside okay, because I knew I needed

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<v Speaker 9>to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. Sure.

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<v Speaker 9>I started walking outside and there were three people that

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<v Speaker 9>were kind of starting to walk in, and I stopped

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<v Speaker 9>them and started talking to them. I said, you guys

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<v Speaker 9>want to buy a car here? And he said yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, do yourself a favorite, turn around.

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<v Speaker 10>And walk away.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, So then what happened to us? I find him

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<v Speaker 9>what happened to us didn't make any different to him.

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<v Speaker 10>They walked right in.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Just so you know, just so you know, the problem

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't so much the problem with you. It's not like

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<v Speaker 4>the automation did anything wrong. If you had something wrong

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<v Speaker 4>with the used car as is, it would have been.

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<v Speaker 4>And then if you had the warranty that that was

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<v Speaker 4>all a separate issue. They didn't really do anything wrong

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<v Speaker 4>in the beginning. What happened that made it wrong is

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<v Speaker 4>that they started ignoring you and you didn't know where

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<v Speaker 4>the hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Your car was. So it's kind of a weird situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So on your way out, you talk to another

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<v Speaker 4>couple who walked in, and then what happened then to

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<v Speaker 4>keep going?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, the police were there and they said, I don't have.

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<v Speaker 9>To leave, and so I said, okay, an he asked

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<v Speaker 9>from ID. I gave the ID and the managers were

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<v Speaker 9>out there by then and asked, you need this guy

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<v Speaker 9>to leave, and I said yes, and they said yes.

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<v Speaker 9>So I went ahead and left at that point. But

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<v Speaker 9>a nothing I wanted to mention to you. The car

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<v Speaker 9>did not ever overheat. Okay, I think you an assumption

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<v Speaker 9>that did overheat you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I never. I was never under that assumption.

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<v Speaker 3>I said that dealer said. The dealer said the warranty

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<v Speaker 3>won't cover it because it overheated.

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<v Speaker 9>I did not, and they ran out done the entire time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, listen, these extended warranties. I want to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you something, Dale and Dawn, we're with you.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem is the problem is They make it almost

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<v Speaker 4>impossible because you're fighting and you can't afford to They

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<v Speaker 4>basically turned down your the warranty claim. These warranties suck.

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<v Speaker 4>They simply said, sorry, we're not covering it. It's overheated.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, then what do you do?

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<v Speaker 12>So?

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<v Speaker 4>But the real problem now is getting your damn car back.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say you want to get your car back and

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<v Speaker 4>get it checked by someone. Where is your car?

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<v Speaker 9>Far as I know, it's done a lot?

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<v Speaker 3>But do you know did you see it? Did you

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<v Speaker 3>see it when you were there? No?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh I did not. Did your guys see it at all?

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<v Speaker 6>Did you go to the secondary lot where they told

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<v Speaker 6>you your car would be?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh? I didn't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Well now, no, no, he was told it was in

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<v Speaker 3>a secondary lot.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have to go over to talk. We don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to go over it. We we know what they said.

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<v Speaker 4>They said, it's at the secondary lot. Here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe don Why didn't they'll go there? Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why Dale didn't go there him because he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to make a scene.

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<v Speaker 4>He wanted to raise hell. He listen, he's admitting it.

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<v Speaker 4>My hat's off to Dale. He's not trying to hide.

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<v Speaker 4>He's saying, look, these people did him wrong. He wants

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<v Speaker 3>He wants people to know which which AutoNation is this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you know, look, you got to give him credit.

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<v Speaker 4>This is something in the early days Mark would have

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<v Speaker 4>This is exactly. I remember one time when Mark first

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<v Speaker 4>He went to an auction where a guy was auctioning

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<v Speaker 4>off stuff and this guy had been known to take stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>were on the auction and this guy starts aggating. Mark

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<v Speaker 13>I don't you know what? We're thinking of? Two different ones.

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<v Speaker 13>You're thinking of one in the nineties. I in Parker,

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<v Speaker 13>in Parker, that was in Parker, Man, that was forever ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it, I know it. But that was a

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<v Speaker 4>And you yelled, don't buy from this crook or something.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was very Anyway, we got more coming up

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<v Speaker 3>Get rid of microplastics. I want to bring something up.

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<v Speaker 3>This is really important. There are now class.

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<v Speaker 4>Actions is being done about plastics against bottle manufacturers. What

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<v Speaker 3>Now, listen, we just what do we do, Mark? What

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<v Speaker 3>do we do about this problem? Really? What do we do?

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<v Speaker 14>Well?

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, you got to get his car back, So

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<v Speaker 13>that's number one. I'm not quite sure how he's going

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<v Speaker 13>to do that at this point. Maybe have the wife

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<v Speaker 13>car or Lee Jael's daughter. Yeah, and get it somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, that's what he's got to do. And get

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so down, Here's what I want you to I

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<v Speaker 3>You simply want to pick up your car.

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<v Speaker 4>Just talk, don't talk about any issue, just say, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to pick up the car, and certainly Doc,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you can make another call and let's right now

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<v Speaker 4>just get the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just get the car. I personally think it's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be covered.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, no matter what. I just don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be covered. Let's let's go to Laurie. Now, Laurie,

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<v Speaker 4>welcome to the show. You want to call about a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that's already on the sleeze Brigade. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>I have up updated the sleeves Brigade, and I added

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<v Speaker 4>that one guy at the speed shop.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the name of that shop again? Mark, that guy

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<v Speaker 3>is such a something loud speedcat.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, go CAATs.

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<v Speaker 3>His name's Eric Brown. Yeah, Eric Brown, seven years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>the only one. Oh my god, Mark, that's just one

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<v Speaker 3>of many.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>In any case, Laurie, Laurie, did you find out after

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<v Speaker 3>you got ripped off that this guy was on the

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<v Speaker 3>sleeves Brigade? What happened? Tell us your story, Laurie, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>after the fact.

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<v Speaker 4>So what did you use him for? He's a mobile mechanic, right.

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<v Speaker 16>I had just got back from Colorado, my first day

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<v Speaker 16>back to work. He approached me because I had kind

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<v Speaker 16>of been looking for a generator from my camper van.

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<v Speaker 16>He approached me and tells me he's found me a

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<v Speaker 16>camper van. He found me a generator.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a great So what do you mean he

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<v Speaker 4>approached you? What do you mean he approached you first

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<v Speaker 4>of all to get it?

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<v Speaker 16>He was where I work?

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<v Speaker 3>Where does he work?

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<v Speaker 9>At?

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<v Speaker 16>The tank of ready swapped me. He was only there

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<v Speaker 16>about two months, but he's okay, like five of us

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<v Speaker 16>swall he was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>The guy can't. He just can't do anything, honestly. So

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<v Speaker 4>you were working with.

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<v Speaker 16>Him, Well, I wasn't working by his side.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I understand, but.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, we worked. He's there and he was kind of

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<v Speaker 16>a boss for the ground, so he got to know everybody. Well,

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<v Speaker 16>so he's talking about this great generator that he bought

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<v Speaker 16>off this guy took it off the RV. He said

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<v Speaker 16>it would be great. Four hundred dollars and he charged

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<v Speaker 16>me two hundred to put it on, right, Okay, he

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<v Speaker 16>shows me a picture. I've paid three hundred, and then

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<v Speaker 16>he comes and tells me, Wow, you're going to need

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<v Speaker 16>a switch plate and that's another three hundred. So now

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<v Speaker 16>you know we're up to nine hundreds.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. And this is for a generator.

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<v Speaker 16>Right and and known in three thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we're talking about one of those big So you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the whole house generator right right? For how much?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, how much he.

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<v Speaker 16>Said he got it off of a guy, off of

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<v Speaker 16>an RV that the guy was getting rid of the

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<v Speaker 16>r How.

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<v Speaker 3>Much, yes, how much total? How much total? Well, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of red flags. Yeah, because that's cheap.

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<v Speaker 16>Actually right right, Wow, I'm not the only one.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we still do?

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<v Speaker 13>You got an updated phone number on this bomb? This

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<v Speaker 13>guy's a real a piece of work.

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<v Speaker 16>I got his phone number. I got his dad.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, Kelly, let's reach out. Let's show him how far

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<v Speaker 13>our reach goes. Because this guy sucks in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh number, Yeah, we want a phone number.

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<v Speaker 16>Okay, let me give it. I got to look it up.

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<v Speaker 16>He's in my contact.

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<v Speaker 3>So what he's telling you now, pound saying what? What's

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<v Speaker 3>his what means? Did he do anything at all for

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<v Speaker 3>the money? Did he do anything at all for the money?

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<v Speaker 17>He tried to.

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<v Speaker 16>He took my tire off underneath there and said, well,

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<v Speaker 16>I won't fit with the generator. He took it off.

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<v Speaker 3>He won't fit with Yeah, hey is that mark? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you have an on N or do you have a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger one? N?

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<v Speaker 10>Mind?

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<v Speaker 13>So what's the other big brand? The green one? Genera general? No,

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<v Speaker 13>it's not generic.

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<v Speaker 3>It must be an I thought was the green one?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>The green one is.

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<v Speaker 16>Like the one that you look up like underneath your

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<v Speaker 16>your r V or your camper van that rest your gas.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So what's his phone number? Did you find his

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<v Speaker 4>phone number?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, it's five two zero seven nine four one zero nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it still work?

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<v Speaker 16>As far as I know as of a week ago,

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say that he you're saying that he ripped off

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<v Speaker 4>how many people at work?

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<v Speaker 16>I'm Jasmine. Her truck broke down and it was out

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<v Speaker 16>of town. And he told her if she gave him

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<v Speaker 16>fix it.

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<v Speaker 4>For so he got he got eight hundred from you,

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<v Speaker 4>And how much did he get from all the other people?

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<v Speaker 16>He got three hundred from Jasmine, he got seven hundred

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<v Speaker 16>from Isaiah. He's got a car from a seedrow. I

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<v Speaker 16>told Roberto his car is not where he lives. I

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<v Speaker 16>know a Cedro's car, it's not there.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy with the car and from.

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<v Speaker 16>Work, he sold power tools and a generator. My boss said,

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<v Speaker 16>did you see the generator? I said yeah. He said

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<v Speaker 16>what color is it? I said, I saw too, there's

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<v Speaker 16>a red one in a box.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, this guy's just a crook. What a

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<v Speaker 4>cry mark. Isn't it amazing? Aren't it amazing how our

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<v Speaker 4>sleeves Brigade just finds the right kind of people. And

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean is they they always resurface doing ripoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think that they would change. Nah, they never change. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Now hold.

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<v Speaker 4>On, hold on, Let's figure out what we can do

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<v Speaker 4>to get this guy. We'll have Kelly reach out. Plus

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<v Speaker 4>we'll do more right after this on The Troubleshooter Show

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<v Speaker 3>Help.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll think his only customer when you choose Frank durand

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<v Speaker 4>the real estate Man dot com to list your home

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<v Speaker 4>with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>three talk seven month three eight two five five Louri.

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<v Speaker 4>So she had this guy, Bill van Alstein mobile mechanic

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<v Speaker 4>rip her off several people at work. The guy's been

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<v Speaker 4>on my sleeves brigade for years.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't know that. She happened to work with him.

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<v Speaker 3>And do you know where he went, Laurie, after he

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<v Speaker 3>got fired from there or did he quit? Did he

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<v Speaker 3>get fired or quit?

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<v Speaker 16>I think he resigned when he realized it was getting

435
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<v Speaker 16>heavy because people wanted their money back and the boss

436
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<v Speaker 16>was questioning on the generator and power tools that were gone,

437
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<v Speaker 16>and he would take money out of the cash box

438
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<v Speaker 16>to go get like a battery for the golf cart

439
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<v Speaker 16>and then never come back with a battery and then

440
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<v Speaker 16>tried to say someone saw him put it in, while

441
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<v Speaker 16>that never happened. You focketed that money, too, godly?

442
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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, what what plan do you have? What like?

443
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<v Speaker 3>Do you know where he is?

444
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<v Speaker 16>Yes, we all filed with the Sheriff's department.

445
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<v Speaker 3>We had wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, did

446
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<v Speaker 3>you just say he got a job with the Sheriff's department.

447
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<v Speaker 16>No, we filed all I'm sorry, we filed a report.

448
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<v Speaker 16>We all had to write out a statement, and we've

449
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<v Speaker 16>got a case number against him.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

451
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<v Speaker 16>For some reason, I took a picture of where he

452
00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:50.279
<v Speaker 16>lives is out in the desert on dirt roads with

453
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<v Speaker 16>no signs. If you don't know how to get there,

454
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<v Speaker 16>it's hard to find.

455
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<v Speaker 3>You found, So you can serve him now.

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<v Speaker 16>Right, Well, so I had taken pictures also of the

457
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<v Speaker 16>posts out on the road, of the numbers for that

458
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:08.960
<v Speaker 16>area back there, because.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Where does he live? Where does he live? What area?

460
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<v Speaker 3>Just in general?

461
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<v Speaker 16>What area west of Tucson.

462
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<v Speaker 3>The Tucson Okay, so this guy isn't just man near.

463
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<v Speaker 16>The Tucson of State off of eighty six off of

464
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<v Speaker 16>Boss Road.

465
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<v Speaker 4>Actually, yeah, okay, Now his phone number still works.

466
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<v Speaker 3>Do you know?

467
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<v Speaker 16>My boss told me I shouldn't talk to him at all,

468
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<v Speaker 16>but a week ago it was still working.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Kelly. Did you try that number? I did, yes, and

470
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<v Speaker 3>I loved a message.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so it was a working number. I want everyone

472
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<v Speaker 4>to leave a message. I want you to let Bill

473
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<v Speaker 4>van Alstein or William van Alstein.

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<v Speaker 11>No that we know about out here he.

475
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<v Speaker 3>Goes by Michael.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, here.

477
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<v Speaker 3>Michael on the Sleeves Brigade. He's listed as Michael.

478
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<v Speaker 16>Right his picture on your Please Brigade, he looks a

479
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<v Speaker 16>little bit younger, like, yeah, a little bit a lot

480
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<v Speaker 16>younger actually, so he's.

481
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<v Speaker 4>Way older than that picture. I got to get an

482
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<v Speaker 4>updated picture. Hey, let's deputy sues or executive producer sues X.

483
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<v Speaker 3>She is good at finding picks up people.

484
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 4>Maybe we can have her dog this guy out and

485
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<v Speaker 4>get a pick an updated one.

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<v Speaker 16>He still looks the same, he just looks older. Yeah,

487
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<v Speaker 16>and it's longer.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know, it's really too bad. I wish we

489
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<v Speaker 4>got to Mark. We got to somehow push out this

490
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.440
<v Speaker 4>sleaze brigade more and get people looking at it. It's

491
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<v Speaker 4>got pretty good rankings Seo ring Kis, but we gotta

492
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 4>we got to really get people to look at this more.

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<v Speaker 4>I know one time when Mark found or a couple

494
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:06.759
<v Speaker 4>times he finds people in a certain category and he

495
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:12.920
<v Speaker 4>goes out and actually is social media and pushes it

496
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<v Speaker 4>to specific audiences that will come across it because they

497
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.960
<v Speaker 4>need those services at the time. And I think that's

498
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<v Speaker 4>a really good way of doing it too. Three oh three,

499
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<v Speaker 4>seven to one to three, talk Laurie right now. Other

500
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<v Speaker 4>than getting the word out, I'm not sure, there's much

501
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 4>we can do for you, and thank goodness you're and

502
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<v Speaker 4>I know this sounds crazy, but you're only out eight hundred.

503
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<v Speaker 16>Only Ray, I've lot more than that in the past.

504
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<v Speaker 3>Than well.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for letting us know, though. We're going to

506
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<v Speaker 4>make a note of this and I'm going to update that.

507
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<v Speaker 4>I want to go to r Z right now. I

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<v Speaker 4>hope I'm saying the name right RZ. ARSI, Yes, okay,

509
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:04.920
<v Speaker 4>can you tell me what's going on with you?

510
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 3>Rzi?

511
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<v Speaker 10>Well, I lost.

512
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<v Speaker 18>I lost my sister Cosetta, I lost my mother Theoma,

513
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 18>I lost my dad.

514
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I remember this one, I remember this.

515
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<v Speaker 4>We had a question for Dan McKenzie and we got

516
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 4>him on ARSI has one sister.

517
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<v Speaker 3>And two half brothers.

518
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 4>His mom and oldest sister both recently passed away. He

519
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:39.640
<v Speaker 4>became their personal representative. But you were removed due to

520
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:46.119
<v Speaker 4>alleged improprieties, so that pretty much sums it up. Of course,

521
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 4>you don't agree that you should have been removed, and

522
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.960
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to ask Dan McKenzie a couple general questions. First,

523
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 4>Dan McKenzie, McKenzie law, thank you, by the way for

524
00:27:58.279 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 4>being here.

525
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<v Speaker 10>Dan.

526
00:27:59.000 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 3>We appreciated all.

527
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 4>He's an estate an attorney who can help you in Colorado,

528
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 4>and I'll give out his contact information after this? How

529
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 4>does someone get removed as a personal representative?

530
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 19>Somebody, a beneficiary or maybe a creditor would have petitioned

531
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<v Speaker 19>the court and said that he needed to be removed.

532
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 3>Now do they have to have proof or that they

533
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 3>just not like the guy? Or how does that work?

534
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<v Speaker 19>I mean, I think the court, you know, this is

535
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 19>really an equable situation where the court is gonna try

536
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 19>and do what's beth, But yeah, they need to bring

537
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 19>forth something and saying look, he's not doing the job

538
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 19>or he's that is often the most common actually actually

539
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 19>complain that the person is just not acting diligently and

540
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 19>with enough speed. Did he tell you what the basis

541
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 19>of was for the removal?

542
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

543
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 3>What exactly did they say you did?

544
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<v Speaker 18>Are they faith that stole from the estate? And they've

545
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 18>said a number of other things, And I probably shouldn't

546
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 18>repair fort on the air.

547
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, we don't know, we don't know names

548
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 4>really of deceased or counties or any I mean that's

549
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 4>up to you, you don't have to. But in general,

550
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 4>do they have any actual paper trail for this money?

551
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 10>She don't.

552
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 18>They don't have a drop. Everything that they got is

553
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 18>a damn lie.

554
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, give me an example of one of the.

555
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:43.720
<v Speaker 4>Biggest lies that they have that you say is a lie.

556
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 3>What is it?

557
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 18>Well, they said that I stole my sister's truck. Is

558
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 18>sitting out here in my driveway where it's always been sitting.

559
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 18>I had to run it down and locate it.

560
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<v Speaker 13>Oh well, just out of curiosity, man, let's just stick

561
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.279
<v Speaker 13>to this truck. So where was it and why did

562
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 13>you go get it? And why did you bring it

563
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 13>to your house?

564
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 18>Because my sister, my oldest sister, passed away. The last

565
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 18>time I saw, she asked me to get her truck.

566
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 13>Okay, So before she died, she told you to go

567
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 13>get her truck when she dies.

568
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, okay, Well yeah she didn't.

569
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<v Speaker 10>I didn't.

570
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 18>She just wanted me to go get the truck. We

571
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<v Speaker 18>weren't expecting her to die.

572
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, got it.

573
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 4>And so you were using you were using the truck

574
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 4>before she died, No, sir.

575
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 18>No, sir, Some other people were using it some uh, because.

576
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 10>That was a was a school teacher.

577
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so so other people.

578
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to go on a trail here other

579
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 4>people were using it and you went and got it. Yes, okay,

580
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 4>and you kept it at your house for how long

581
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 4>before she died?

582
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 18>It's still here and now No.

583
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.160
<v Speaker 4>What I meant was how long was it at your

584
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:14.880
<v Speaker 4>house before she died?

585
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 18>I guess about two months?

586
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay? Okay?

587
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 4>And Dan McKenzie, let me ask you this. If someone

588
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.880
<v Speaker 4>has property of a deceased person.

589
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 3>And they die, or are they supposed to like forfeit

590
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 3>the property or say you, by the way, I have

591
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 3>her truck or.

592
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 19>What I mean, it's up the personal representative to go

593
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 19>get it.

594
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 9>And just figure out, like, okay, why did you have it?

595
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 19>I mean, obviously it could be on my loan or

596
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 19>just there for sure, whatever else, sure, and then it's

597
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 19>still there.

598
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 9>It is personal property.

599
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 19>People really underestimate how often it's the problem because of

600
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:56.960
<v Speaker 19>stuff like this, where it's just like it's there. Was

601
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 19>it a gift to him previously or was he really

602
00:31:59.400 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 19>just storing it?

603
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 3>Would that be enough?

604
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Would that be enough just showing that he had her truck?

605
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Could that be enough by its appearance to get him

606
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 4>removed as a personal representative?

607
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 19>I mean, okay, you know, you get in front of

608
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 19>a court, it's like, you know, you really can't predict that.

609
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 20>Arguably it was sort of you know, it'd be a.

610
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<v Speaker 19>Smart thing to do, though, right, I mean you don't

611
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.279
<v Speaker 19>want to leave it somewhere where it's unsupervised. I mean,

612
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 19>I guess my question for him is was there a

613
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 19>court like there should have been, like some sort of

614
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 19>hearing that you appeared at and made this case. Did

615
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 19>that happen?

616
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 21>Yeah?

617
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Was there a hearing?

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<v Speaker 18>I haven't been to any kind of hearing.

619
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Well where it supposed to go to one? Maybe ARSI

620
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 3>did you?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's let's start. Let's start right from the beginning. Are

622
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<v Speaker 4>we talking about being removed from your mom's or your

623
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 4>sister's estate?

624
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.839
<v Speaker 18>My mom and my sister's the state.

625
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:03.200
<v Speaker 3>But there were two separate estates, right right? Who died first?

626
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<v Speaker 10>Oh's that? No?

627
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 18>I'm sorry, I'm my mother?

628
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<v Speaker 3>Did okay? When your mom? Hold on? One step at

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<v Speaker 3>a time. I want to be very basic, when your

630
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<v Speaker 3>mom died? Did you open probate? No? Okay? Hold on,

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<v Speaker 3>we got more coming right up?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, Bill has an issue with a bankingout. But

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<v Speaker 4>Dan McKenzie, Before we go on with that, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to go back to this probate issue, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>what do we do?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Usually there's a hearing, and ARSI said there was no hearing.

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<v Speaker 4>RZI when they removed you. They had to have had

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of a hearing. You open, you open probate,

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<v Speaker 4>You opened probate, and what was your first duty and probate.

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<v Speaker 4>What did you do when you open probate for your mother?

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<v Speaker 4>What did you do? What was your first action?

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<v Speaker 18>I got an attorney and then what, Oh my god

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<v Speaker 18>yet dyeing and paper?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know what one of the problems we're gonna have,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm just gonna be straight like I have been lately.

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<v Speaker 4>ARSI doesn't even understand what the hell's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'd like to ask Dan McKenzie about structure and

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<v Speaker 3>procedure after this.

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<v Speaker 4>Forget RSI right now. ARSI doesn't know what the hell's

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<v Speaker 2>Come running Jesus as the kid show, Shooter's Gonna help come.

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<v Speaker 3>Man six is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martinez, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>That is me.

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<v Speaker 3>I am here along with Major, Mark Major and the

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<v Speaker 3>gang back at the studio. I'm at the I'm at

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<v Speaker 3>the Sister Ship and we are here fighting for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show. Brian Burns with some Compass insurance group.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got to.

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<v Speaker 4>Remind you because we've had so many calls in between.

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<v Speaker 4>We are doing insurance checkups. So if you call three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine nine to six nine thousand, their main line,

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<v Speaker 4>they do the insurance checkups all the time and they

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<v Speaker 4>have the Insurancehelpcenter dot com. But during this show, we

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<v Speaker 4>like to highlight things that you have in your insurance

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<v Speaker 4>that maybe you don't need, or maybe you're under insured,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe you need to drop this or add this.

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<v Speaker 4>And what we do is a checkup basically and then

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<v Speaker 4>see if we can save you money. About eighty five

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the time we can save you money. But

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're honest if they can't save you money. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to know if they have any examples

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<v Speaker 4>right now. If not, we can move on, because again

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't been promoting it that much. But call three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine niney six nine thousand and say, look,

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<v Speaker 4>take a look at my coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me know if I can save some money. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>going on ran.

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<v Speaker 5>We have some that are being quoted. I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>any examples called okay, good, so.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, fine?

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<v Speaker 4>Now I heard Deputy Bow asking some questions about various

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<v Speaker 4>types of coverages when it comes to cars, and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people confuse coverages.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to make something clear.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have a new car or a car with

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<v Speaker 4>a loan on it, you're required to.

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<v Speaker 3>Have collision coverage. And collision coverage is obviously for the

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<v Speaker 3>car itself, collision coverage. So if you have a car.

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<v Speaker 4>Financed, you're required to have collision coverage. Now, if your

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<v Speaker 4>car is not financed or it's older, you may choose

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<v Speaker 4>to drop collision coverage. And if that's the case, what

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<v Speaker 4>people are confused about. Sometimes uninsured motorists does not cover

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<v Speaker 4>the car, Is that right, Brian?

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<v Speaker 5>Uninsured motorist bodily injury does not, But you can get

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<v Speaker 5>what's called uninsured motorist property damage, and uninsured motors property

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<v Speaker 5>damage would cover the car only for the specific incident

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<v Speaker 5>where someone hitch hits the car that does not have insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, that could be a good part

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<v Speaker 4>of the time because so many people are don't have

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<v Speaker 4>insurance or are under insured nowadays. So it's called uninsured

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<v Speaker 4>motorist property damage.

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<v Speaker 3>Is That's what it's called. That's what it's called.

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<v Speaker 5>And just to clarify though, what people think sometimes will

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<v Speaker 5>that where that will cover them as a hit and run,

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<v Speaker 5>like someone just hits and takes off of their car,

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<v Speaker 5>is hit in the parking lot. That is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>the definition of someone being uninsured. So it really needs

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<v Speaker 5>to be that someone does not have insurance and they

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<v Speaker 5>hit your car and does and do damage.

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<v Speaker 3>Toured and then pay insurance.

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<v Speaker 13>You got one hundred thousand dollars car and they only

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<v Speaker 13>have twenty five thousand worth your.

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<v Speaker 5>Ensured motorist property damage. It's truly, it's not undur insured

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<v Speaker 5>motorist property damage. It's uninsured motoris horrible coverage.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, bo It asked about medpay coverage and what medpay

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<v Speaker 4>coverage is as opposed to a different what what were

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<v Speaker 4>you comparing, bo You wanted to know the difference.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I just wanted to know the real difference in

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<v Speaker 15>definition of medical pay unassured motors and are these separate

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<v Speaker 15>addendums that go.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, medpay pays whether they're insured or not,

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<v Speaker 4>and uninsured motorists coverage Just just to to to summarize,

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<v Speaker 4>this is for pain and suffering claims only, not.

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<v Speaker 3>For medical bills. Is that right? But then that's a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good description.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, medical payments is really there to provide you and

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, it's a no fault type of coverage,

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, it will pay no matter what. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>to pay for things like you know, hospital bills, those

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<v Speaker 5>kind of things, whereas unassured motorists is more to provide

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<v Speaker 5>you know, loss of work, loss of enjoyment, pain and suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like you said, yep, okay, Now I want to

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<v Speaker 3>go back to Dan McKenzie. Dan, we get this all

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 4>People are personal representative and then they're removed.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the normal?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about Rz's case because r Z doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>understand what happened. He said there was no hearing, and

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<v Speaker 4>I assure you there was a hearing, and Dan, you

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<v Speaker 4>know there was a hearing. He just didn't know about

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<v Speaker 4>the hearing. Oh wait, is Dan McKenzie off the line

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to get him back. If you can quickly,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Is ours still on the line, because I just what

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<v Speaker 4>I need for ours to do is basically give us

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<v Speaker 4>a case number. So just get a case number from

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<v Speaker 4>him again. People, I want to make something very clear.

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<v Speaker 4>As an interested party in an estate, when you open probate,

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<v Speaker 4>you have certain responsibilities. Okay, you must do certain things.

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<v Speaker 4>One of them is to read the will. Another one

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<v Speaker 4>is to just take assessment of the property and what

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<v Speaker 4>the estate owns, and then if you have any doubts

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<v Speaker 4>you hire an attorney to help you. There will always

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<v Speaker 4>be hearing your capability if any of the heirs or

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<v Speaker 4>interested parties think you're doing something wrong. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>move on to another call now. Bill has an issue

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<v Speaker 4>with a bank account. Hello Bill, I'm Tom Martino. What's

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<v Speaker 4>going on with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Bill?

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<v Speaker 11>Good morning, Tom, Nice to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. What's happening.

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<v Speaker 22>Well, my wife was found out with brain cancer a

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<v Speaker 22>couple of years ago, and she had laser surgery the

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<v Speaker 22>first of May. But she still got bills and need

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<v Speaker 22>to be paid, and I'm just trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 22>how to get into her bank account because I'm not

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<v Speaker 22>on it, and how to get into it so I

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<v Speaker 22>can access her account and make okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Or Bill, is she incapacitated right now?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to be appointed basically her guardian at light

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<v Speaker 4>the correct Have you been appointed her guardian yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 10>Joah?

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<v Speaker 4>Then we will need we will need Dan McKenzie again

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<v Speaker 4>for this one for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But Bill, may I asked you a question. She was

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<v Speaker 3>diagnosed when.

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<v Speaker 22>She was diagnosed back in February twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Three, okay? And and what did she have?

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<v Speaker 3>A tumor?

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<v Speaker 22>She has three of them in her brain, the two

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<v Speaker 22>in the frontal right low and one in the back.

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<v Speaker 22>But they did laser surgery the sixth of May this

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<v Speaker 22>year to try and relieve that, and it didn't know

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<v Speaker 22>the way we were anticipating.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it help at all?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Is chemo helping at all? Bill?

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<v Speaker 11>She's off a chemo.

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<v Speaker 22>She was doing what do you want to call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 22>Some kind of immune therapy is what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 10>That took care.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called it's called immunotherapy, right right? But she was hot? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, you know, cancer is near and

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<v Speaker 3>dear to my hearts, of course, obviously, Uh, being a

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<v Speaker 3>cancer right now, survivor so far, you guys should have

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<v Speaker 3>had a durable power of attorney or something set up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now, Mark, do you have something set up like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Do you have something right now? In places I don't?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 22>Were really expecting this to happen because it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Only no I know.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's exactly, by the way, why you have it

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<v Speaker 4>set up is because you don't expect anything. But let's

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<v Speaker 4>get We'll get Dan McKenzie back on to discuss what

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<v Speaker 4>to do now, because there is a procedure that you

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<v Speaker 4>go through now to get control.

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<v Speaker 3>Is she with it at all? Does she have her

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<v Speaker 3>wits about her?

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<v Speaker 22>Well, she's in a Uh she just got out of

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<v Speaker 22>the hospital I'm gonna say probably the thirteenth of June

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<v Speaker 22>and they put her in a rehab center.

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<v Speaker 9>What is she?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she cognitive or is she considered incapacitated?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, she's not incapacitated.

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<v Speaker 22>I wouldn't say, because you can when you can get

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<v Speaker 22>her to wake up, she will foct you with a

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<v Speaker 22>one verbal yes. No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>And but she really is not She really is not

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<v Speaker 3>legally competent, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 10>Correct.

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<v Speaker 22>She's just laying in bed right now. She can't even move.

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<v Speaker 22>I mean she moves her arms and legs, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 22>But they're trying to do rehab on her, trying to

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<v Speaker 22>get her back where she can.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Bill, I'm so sorry. I am so sorry you're

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<v Speaker 3>going through this. Brother, I'm so sorry. My prayers are

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<v Speaker 3>with you. Hang on, Bill, We're going to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get McKenzie on.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to remind everyone Compass Insurance Group is here

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<v Speaker 4>and they are doing quotes or insurance reviews of what

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<v Speaker 4>you have. Somebody has a question for you, Brian, on

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<v Speaker 4>texting and insurance coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to know if your insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>Company found out you were texting, would it affect your

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<v Speaker 4>coverage of anything? If they found out you were texting,

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<v Speaker 4>could it take away some coverages?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it would not.

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<v Speaker 5>It Just like if someone you know had made a

869
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<v Speaker 5>bad decision to drink and drive and they get into

870
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.800
<v Speaker 5>an accident, your your insurance still covers you for that.

871
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's insurance talk today with a Compass insurance group. They're

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<v Speaker 4>doing comparisons at three h three nine nine six nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Margaret what's going on with your landscape er, Margaret, go

875
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 4>with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

876
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for

877
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 4>an insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison all Compass

878
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.039
<v Speaker 4>insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of insurance

879
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<v Speaker 4>companies find out now three all three seven to seven

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<v Speaker 4>to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Help.

882
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<v Speaker 4>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

883
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 4>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

884
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 4>home with Remax Alliance three three nine two zero sixteen

885
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<v Speaker 4>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Tom Martino here. You know life is complicated, Bill.

887
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<v Speaker 3>Here's the deal.

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00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 4>You're going to need to get an attorney's help to

889
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 4>get this done properly. You may have to have the

890
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 4>courts declare your wife legally incompetent and then have them

891
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 4>appoint you in order to do this. Now, Deputy Doc

892
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 4>was saying, if you could get her lucid enough to

893
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 4>sign something in front of a notary, that might work.

894
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.320
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, it may work, Okay, it depends

895
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<v Speaker 4>on how lucid she is.

896
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if she can only utter syllables or short words.

897
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<v Speaker 22>And she understands when you're talking to her. I mean,

898
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:08.920
<v Speaker 22>you can talk to her and see you.

899
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Then you may want to try something. You may

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<v Speaker 3>want to try something as simple as that with a

901
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 3>durable power of returning. But I would call Dan McKenzie.

902
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<v Speaker 4>For some reason, Kachina, we're not getting him on the

903
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 4>air again, so apparently he's not there. But let me

904
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:28.360
<v Speaker 4>give you his phone number, sure, Dan, Dan McKenzie. It's

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00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.920
<v Speaker 4>eight three three. I'm just giving this because it's the

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<v Speaker 4>easiest one to remember. A three three co plans, Okay,

907
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<v Speaker 4>just you just spell that out on the keyboard and

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<v Speaker 4>there's one extra. Okay, So it's eight three three co plans.

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<v Speaker 4>His website is coplans dot co. He can really help you,

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00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.440
<v Speaker 4>and he's uh, he's a good guy for stuff like

911
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 4>this because he can do as little or as much

912
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:56.239
<v Speaker 4>as you need him to do.

913
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:58.840
<v Speaker 3>He's just not available right now. I think he had some.

914
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Court or some some meetings, some legal meetings. So in

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00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 4>any case, that's that's the good a good place to start.

916
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<v Speaker 4>Call us with anything else you need. But you may

917
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<v Speaker 4>want to try the simple route first. That's a pretty

918
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 4>good suggestion. Okay.

919
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<v Speaker 3>Now I want to talk to Margaret about a landscaper.

920
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<v Speaker 4>Margaret, what is going on? What's happening? Let's talk.

921
00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:28.800
<v Speaker 23>A lot of thanks for taking my call.

922
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

923
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:31.920
<v Speaker 23>I did what you said?

924
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 4>Now you you did what I said? Did you call

925
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 4>before Margaret?

926
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:38.079
<v Speaker 10>No?

927
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 23>I have not, But I did what you shay not

928
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 23>to do. And I gave this guy the money upfront.

929
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh how much did you pay up front?

930
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 11>Eight five?

931
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<v Speaker 3>Oh lord? What what was he going to do? What

932
00:49:58.760 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 3>was he going to do?

933
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<v Speaker 9>Forty five?

934
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<v Speaker 23>He was going to fence the front of our property.

935
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<v Speaker 3>But why did he need so much money upfront?

936
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.960
<v Speaker 13>I to finish the job that he had her?

937
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said materials. Okay.

938
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<v Speaker 4>So did you get anything for that money at all?

939
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 4>Anything at all?

940
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 23>I have one hundred and sixty holes drilled.

941
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 3>And who did you pay this money to?

942
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<v Speaker 23>The business name is Country Roots Design and.

943
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<v Speaker 12>Build, Country Roofs Roots Roots Okay, design and build, Design

944
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<v Speaker 12>in and Build.

945
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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

946
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<v Speaker 23>My name is Chance where I don't know how to

947
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<v Speaker 23>say it.

948
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<v Speaker 11>W E y E R where?

949
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:00.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Chance? Okay?

950
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 4>And how did you find him?

951
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 23>There was a new sign advertising up on the intersection

952
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:16.039
<v Speaker 23>of Delbert and County Line.

953
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And so you see a new sign, and you figure what,

954
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<v Speaker 4>let's take a chance. Was it a cardboard sign or

955
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<v Speaker 4>a wood sign?

956
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 17>No, it was a metal sign of oh okay, there.

957
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<v Speaker 23>Signs up there. And I had gotten a previous estimate

958
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<v Speaker 23>from another company that was so out of line it

959
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 23>was pitiful. So I waited a couple months and then

960
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<v Speaker 23>decided to check his prices.

961
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Now what does he say about getting how many

962
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 4>drill holes were drilled?

963
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 23>One hundred and sixty?

964
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 3>So it does look like he was attempting to do something.

965
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.079
<v Speaker 3>So did you ask out of what? When was the

966
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:02.960
<v Speaker 3>last time he was on the job.

967
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 23>The fifteenth of May?

968
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? And what does he say about it?

969
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:14.679
<v Speaker 23>Well, now he doesn't. He's ghosting me. He doesn't return

970
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:18.320
<v Speaker 23>or phone calls.

971
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, do you know have you gone online and

972
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 3>done any research on this guy?

973
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:31.039
<v Speaker 23>I did, and there was a couple of bad comments,

974
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:33.800
<v Speaker 23>and then there were a couple of okay comments.

975
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.800
<v Speaker 3>So there's nothing that's glaring that sticks out.

976
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 7>Right.

977
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Now, where's he out of?

978
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 23>I think he is out of deer trail? But I'm

979
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 23>not positive.

980
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So what do you have?

981
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<v Speaker 7>Their deputy d Country Roots, Design and build Out an

982
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<v Speaker 7>Elizabeth Elizabeth do you think that's the same place.

983
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<v Speaker 3>Probably, okay, probably.

984
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 23>Well that's where I am. But he said he moved

985
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<v Speaker 23>further out, so I'm guessing it with bear trail.

986
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.280
<v Speaker 7>You don't give a street or a mailing any Yes,

987
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 7>it just says Elizabeth.

988
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:15.400
<v Speaker 3>So now here's the thing. Does his number still work?

989
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Do you know?

990
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:17.840
<v Speaker 11>Yes?

991
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:19.719
<v Speaker 23>Yes, I get voicemails.

992
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's call right now, Kaschina. Let's call this guy

993
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:27.920
<v Speaker 3>and leave a really stern message. You know, the contractors

994
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 3>trust act, et cetera, et cetera.

995
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 4>How many times people? How many times do we have

996
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 4>to hear this?

997
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 3>How many times? Why? Why would you give anyone money

998
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 3>for nothing? Why?

999
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 4>If you're a contractor. Right now, I am telling you,

1000
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:52.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm advising my people. Even if you're on my referral list,

1001
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter. I am personally telling people don't put

1002
00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:57.519
<v Speaker 4>money down.

1003
00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 10>Now.

1004
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Can you trust people? Some of them? You can. I'm

1005
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 3>not telling you you're gonna get ripped off one of

1006
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:06.000
<v Speaker 3>the time. Of course you're not.

1007
00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 4>There are people on a referral list that probably want

1008
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:09.840
<v Speaker 4>money down.

1009
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.320
<v Speaker 3>I say, don't pay money down. That's what I say.

1010
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 4>Now, there are ways to pay money down in a

1011
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 4>safer way than others, and at least use those if

1012
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 4>it's a company that you know and trust. I mean,

1013
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, given walls some money down is not a

1014
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 4>big deal, but given some some Joe blow eight dollars

1015
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:32.559
<v Speaker 4>you never meted.

1016
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:35.360
<v Speaker 3>But even people that we know and love, like smaller

1017
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:36.599
<v Speaker 3>companies Mark, Well, that's.

1018
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 13>The guy gets hit by a truck. Though that's fine.

1019
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.440
<v Speaker 13>There people are vouching for him. This is like a

1020
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<v Speaker 13>complete stranger.

1021
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.360
<v Speaker 3>No, you're right, you're right. It's just it just doesn't

1022
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 3>make any sense.

1023
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:50.800
<v Speaker 7>Was there a contract by any chance?

1024
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh that's a good. Okay, you do have a

1025
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:54.800
<v Speaker 3>written contract.

1026
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 7>And how did you pay with a checker credit card?

1027
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:04.360
<v Speaker 23>Let's say check because there was a discount for cash.

1028
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:07.119
<v Speaker 4>Of course, of course. Okay, hold on and we'll come

1029
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 4>right back to you. Okay, uh, well not right back

1030
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 4>to you, but we're going to discuss this and more

1031
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:13.119
<v Speaker 4>on The Troubleshooter Show.

1032
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<v Speaker 3>Three O three seven one three A two five five.

1033
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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer Excel roofing

1034
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 4>dot com.

1035
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<v Speaker 3>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1036
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 4>Wait time for an insurance check up, free no obligation

1037
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 4>comparison call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at

1038
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 4>dozens of insurance companies. Find out now three oh three

1039
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:41.679
<v Speaker 4>seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1040
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man

1041
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

1042
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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Martino here three O three seven one three talk seven

1044
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<v Speaker 4>one three eight two five five. Micael has an issue

1045
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:02.519
<v Speaker 4>with a roof company. Michael, what's going on with you?

1046
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Welcome? Hello, Yeah, Michael, what's happening?

1047
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:12.800
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, on that other one, we're having

1048
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<v Speaker 4>a Kachina call to see if we can get this

1049
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 4>guy on the on the phone or or get some information,

1050
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:20.440
<v Speaker 4>So so don't go away on that one, that guy

1051
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.719
<v Speaker 4>that took eighty four hundred and then we'll we'll have

1052
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:23.639
<v Speaker 4>an update from.

1053
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<v Speaker 7>Uh yeah, and I contacted them on their website too, so.

1054
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thanks, and then Deputy D is going to give

1055
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 3>us what he found on them. Okay, So what's happening

1056
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 3>with you? Man? What's going on?

1057
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 11>There's just kind of a long drawn out story.

1058
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 4>All right, start from the beginning, and and I'll speed

1059
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 4>you along if I need to.

1060
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 3>But what happened? Go ahead?

1061
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 11>From the beginning, oh Uhri told me that let me

1062
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 11>take some freeze away from the roof, that I had

1063
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.320
<v Speaker 11>soft spots. I looked around for Rufford on Google and

1064
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 11>he helped found the top rated.

1065
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.480
<v Speaker 4>May I ask something, what was your reason? What was

1066
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:03.280
<v Speaker 4>your reason for having your roof looked at? To begin with?

1067
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 11>They told me there was to spots on the roof.

1068
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I understand that, but that wait wait, wait, but before

1069
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 3>someone tells you there are soft spots on the roof,

1070
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 3>you had to call someone for what reason? Was it

1071
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 3>a hailstorm?

1072
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.440
<v Speaker 11>They say, also hailed down? So yes, there was a

1073
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:31.760
<v Speaker 11>hailstorm my previous couple of months to that. Okay, go ahead, okay,

1074
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:35.079
<v Speaker 11>well let me call let me look at a roofer

1075
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:35.960
<v Speaker 11>and see what they say?

1076
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:36.280
<v Speaker 10>You know?

1077
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, gotcha? Now I gotcha? Okay, gotcha.

1078
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 11>Aaron Tucker comes out and he inspects the roof and

1079
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:50.039
<v Speaker 11>confirms saying this with file of insurance plane. So I

1080
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 11>filed an insurance plane. The adjuster came out of greed

1081
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 11>that they would go ahead and help it for the roof.

1082
00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 11>They they estimated, Ut, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean?

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00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.119
<v Speaker 4>Help pay for the roof? What does that mean? So

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00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:05.840
<v Speaker 4>you had a hailstorm a roofer said there were soft

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00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:12.000
<v Speaker 4>spots on his roof, and the insurance adjuster what approved

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00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.079
<v Speaker 4>the claim?

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<v Speaker 10>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>For how much? Oh?

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<v Speaker 11>They said it was going to be about twelve thousand

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00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:25.199
<v Speaker 11>and their part, they sent me a check for eight thousand,

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00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.719
<v Speaker 11>nine dollars and seventeen cents and that I would be

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00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:31.880
<v Speaker 11>responsible for the remainder per mind, got it? The deduct

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<v Speaker 11>the bowl or whatever.

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<v Speaker 19>And so I called Rocky Coffees.

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00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:39.400
<v Speaker 11>And everything's been approved and I have a check. He

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00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:42.639
<v Speaker 11>comes back out, has me signed a contract?

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00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:46.679
<v Speaker 3>And what's the name of this roof? Wait, what's the

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00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:47.880
<v Speaker 3>name of the roof for? Again?

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00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:51.440
<v Speaker 11>Fucking pop roofing?

1101
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay, you're you're breaking up for summer? Guys, can you

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00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 4>hear what he's saying most of it? Well, what's the

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00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 4>name of the roof for?

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00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Then that I did not hear? Rocky Top? Is it

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00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Rocky Top?

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00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.880
<v Speaker 13>God, that's a horrible name for a roofer, right, Okay,

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00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:13.599
<v Speaker 13>Rocky Top?

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00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 3>All right? So then what keep going? So so he

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00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:23.199
<v Speaker 3>came out and had you sign a contract. Yeah, that's

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00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 3>a good idea.

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<v Speaker 11>Then what he said I want that check. And uh,

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00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.440
<v Speaker 11>so I signed the check over to him.

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00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Why did you do that? Well, he said he wanted

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00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Well what.

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00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:41.360
<v Speaker 4>If you said he wanted What if he said he

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00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.320
<v Speaker 4>wanted your wife? I mean, what difference does it make

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00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 4>what he wants? I mean, uh, it's he just said

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00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:47.920
<v Speaker 4>I want the check.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you say for what?

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00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:51.800
<v Speaker 12>Oh?

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00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, you said for materials. And to get the thoughts started.

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<v Speaker 3>And okay, By the way, I want everyone to hear

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00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.519
<v Speaker 3>this right down. I want everyone to hear this right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Any contractor who says they need money for materials, do

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<v Speaker 4>not use.

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01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I am saying that unequivocally, do not use.

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<v Speaker 4>Any contractor that says they need your money to buy

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01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 4>materials Excel roofing, for example, wouldn't take a penny from

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01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:19.400
<v Speaker 4>you when you sign that contract. So he said, I

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01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:22.199
<v Speaker 4>need that check. How much was the check? The one

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01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 4>around eight grand? Is that the one you signed over

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01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 4>to him?

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01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:26.800
<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:32.239
<v Speaker 11>And then okay, I wrote a.

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01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Personal check to him for okay, keep going.

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01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:46.840
<v Speaker 11>Then he ghosted me, and of course he did, Yeah.

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01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Hey, we've got it.

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01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.320
<v Speaker 13>Let's get him on hold and let's get a better connection.

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01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:50.440
<v Speaker 13>This is brutal man.

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01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're right, we're really having difficulty. It might be

1142
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 4>his bluetooth thing, but but let's do that. Let's get

1143
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 4>a better connection. Hold on, we'll come right back to you.

1144
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:03.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go to someone else right now.

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01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Tim says he has a follow up and he was

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01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:12.000
<v Speaker 3>working with Deputy Dmitri. This is a vacation, a vacation

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01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:12.639
<v Speaker 3>by Tim.

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01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.480
<v Speaker 4>Can you summarize what the problem was there, Dmitri?

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01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 7>Tim called us a couple of weeks ago because he

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01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.480
<v Speaker 7>said that he purchased a time share. He went to

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01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 7>this hotel presentation presented by Moments of Adventure.

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01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:30.519
<v Speaker 3>Remember that name, Moments of Adventure. Yeah, and I think

1154
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:32.000
<v Speaker 3>this might have been something Mark took.

1155
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I thought you were here. But any case, so

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01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 7>he wrote a check for seventy nine hundred dollars and

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01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.920
<v Speaker 7>changed his mind a few days later.

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01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 4>And oh, yeah, Moments of Adventure. It was a seminar

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01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 4>he went to.

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01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:50.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but he he gave him a check for almost

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01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:50.960
<v Speaker 7>eight thousand bucks.

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01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 4>I saw a copy of seventy nine to ninety five

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01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:54.480
<v Speaker 4>to Moments of Adventure.

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01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:56.159
<v Speaker 3>And what did he get in return?

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01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:59.880
<v Speaker 7>Well, it sounds like he got nothing. And unfortunately, you know,

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01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 7>Tim canceled payment on the wrong check, so Moments of

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01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:05.920
<v Speaker 7>Adventure was able to get the eight thousand bucks. So

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01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 7>Moments of Adventure, what.

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01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Was he supposed to get for that money?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Tim thought he was buying a time share. But

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01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.280
<v Speaker 7>the more research I did on it, the less it

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01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.760
<v Speaker 7>looked like a timeshare. It kind of looked like some

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01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.960
<v Speaker 7>kind of a weird travel agency membership where you're supposed

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<v Speaker 7>to Have you ever heard of this where you're supposed

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01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 7>to get discounted place?

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01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I did, of course I did. They're very common.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, they're doing him instead of time shares on

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01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:32.760
<v Speaker 4>some of them, and they proudly say we're not a timeshare.

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01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.400
<v Speaker 4>But what I can't believe is this guy, not this guy,

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01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 4>but Tim, you know, like Tim's actually disappointed he didn't

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01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 4>get his time share, you know, so now we're timeshare

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01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 4>would have been just as bad. But anyway, just so

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01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:49.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, these travel adventure clubs is what they are.

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01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.119
<v Speaker 3>They come in all shapes and sizes. Keep going deep.

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01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.800
<v Speaker 7>Oh well, unfortunately, Moments of Adventure has neither a phone

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01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:58.320
<v Speaker 7>number in our address, so I couldn't get a hold

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01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.400
<v Speaker 7>of them. But I did track down one or two

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01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.679
<v Speaker 7>of their so called travel agents, and I found their

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01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:07.199
<v Speaker 7>email addresses somewhere on the internet, and I've been mailing

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01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 7>them for emailing them for comment, and then Tim is

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01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:11.960
<v Speaker 7>going to fill us in on some of the research

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01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:16.320
<v Speaker 7>he did. He actually contacted the hotel where the seminar

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01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.119
<v Speaker 7>was held, or the salesperson.

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01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:19.920
<v Speaker 3>A good point, and what happened.

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01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 7>Out there's another company that booked that space at the hotel.

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01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:27.119
<v Speaker 7>So Tim got me contact information for that other company

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01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:30.159
<v Speaker 7>and some guy and his phone number and.

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01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 4>So who booked that space and was given that seminar.

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<v Speaker 3>Supposedly, this is a.

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01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:35.159
<v Speaker 7>Good question for Tim.

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01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:38.519
<v Speaker 3>Let's Tim, what did you find out? Tim? Let's go

1202
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.199
<v Speaker 3>what did you find out?

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01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 10>I need that information anyway? What it is? I found

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01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 10>out that American Savings Network out of time? Sure, like

1205
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:53.119
<v Speaker 10>you said, it was a basically a vacation thing.

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01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.320
<v Speaker 3>And what is it called? American? What American?

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01:03:56.400 --> 01:04:00.280
<v Speaker 10>What American Savings Network is?

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01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:06.320
<v Speaker 10>With Moments of Adventure. Uh, there's UH. I got a

1210
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:10.360
<v Speaker 10>call from a Brad from American Savings Network and he

1211
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.159
<v Speaker 10>turned around and now said he wanted to make this

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01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 10>right and he felt bad that he was going to

1213
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:19.760
<v Speaker 10>direct work directly with me and UH and basically, UH,

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01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:22.199
<v Speaker 10>on last Friday, he said he was going to the mountains,

1215
01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:25.360
<v Speaker 10>but he sent me some things to look at a vacation.

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01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.519
<v Speaker 10>I said, I want my money back because I actually

1217
01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:32.960
<v Speaker 10>canceled it via phone the day after thinking about it.

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01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:34.920
<v Speaker 10>He said, well, I can't talk to you about money back,

1219
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.719
<v Speaker 10>but we are willing to work with you. And he

1220
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 10>was supposed to get supposed to get back to me

1221
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 10>again today.

1222
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.599
<v Speaker 3>And and what's the guy? What is the guy's name?

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01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:55.519
<v Speaker 10>His name is Brad? Uh been down? My internet has

1224
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:57.599
<v Speaker 10>been down and stuff like that, and I got.

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01:04:57.639 --> 01:04:59.280
<v Speaker 3>What is his life? I just need to know Brad?

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01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.960
<v Speaker 3>What is Brad? Last name.

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01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:04.239
<v Speaker 10>Was an A.

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01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Dmitrie. Do you know it?

1229
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:07.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Hold on? What is it to me to meet mail?

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01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:10.119
<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:10.360
<v Speaker 12>You know?

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01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:12.880
<v Speaker 7>So he's okay, We're fine, Brad. I just have his

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01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 7>phone number and I've been emailing him.

1235
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 3>So you do have a phone number.

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01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:17.599
<v Speaker 7>I do have a phone number.

1237
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:18.360
<v Speaker 3>And what's going on?

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01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:22.679
<v Speaker 7>And what's going on? And now American Savings Network and

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01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:27.079
<v Speaker 7>Minutes of Adventure never once responded to me. But I've

1240
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:30.159
<v Speaker 7>been well, you know, I take it back. Somebody from

1241
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 7>American Savings Network emailed me said, hey, thanks for bringing

1242
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:35.480
<v Speaker 7>the story attention we're going to look into it. But

1243
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:39.679
<v Speaker 7>they never responded to me with any offers to help

1244
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:42.400
<v Speaker 7>him or any kind of a you know, any kind

1245
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:45.760
<v Speaker 7>of a refund or anything else. But Tim today promised

1246
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:46.719
<v Speaker 7>to give you a refund.

1247
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:49.519
<v Speaker 16>Finally, no, they.

1248
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.719
<v Speaker 10>Said, he said that he can't talk about a refund.

1249
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 10>But you want to do something to help me?

1250
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:56.039
<v Speaker 3>What the hell does that? No?

1251
01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:58.559
<v Speaker 4>Just what the heck does that mean? I want to

1252
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:00.960
<v Speaker 4>do something to help you? Just give the money back.

1253
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:03.880
<v Speaker 4>So basically, what's the purpose of the call today? Were

1254
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:06.119
<v Speaker 4>you calling to find out what we found out?

1255
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 3>Or did you have information to share with us?

1256
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:13.159
<v Speaker 10>I wanted to call did I My internet has been

1257
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:14.719
<v Speaker 10>down and I haven't had no radio.

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01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, gotcha. I'll tell you what, Tim. We don't have anything.

1259
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:20.119
<v Speaker 4>We don't have anything new right now.

1260
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:24.960
<v Speaker 3>But Dimitri's making some notes to try to reint Tom.

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01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:27.360
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't think that we're gonna be We're

1262
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.639
<v Speaker 7>really not going to get anywhere because these guys aren't

1263
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:30.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, they're not responding to me.

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01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.519
<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's give a number out. Let's let's at least

1265
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:37.880
<v Speaker 4>give a number that people book. Just bombard the hell

1266
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 4>out of them.

1267
01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:38.840
<v Speaker 3>What is it?

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01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 7>So they sent me. So this cat named Brad England

1269
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:45.599
<v Speaker 7>at American Savings Network Bred England.

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01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:50.360
<v Speaker 3>His name is Brad England A N G L I N.

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01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Is it Brad Brad Brad England A and G L

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01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:55.199
<v Speaker 3>I N.

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01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:57.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, if that's his real name. But he did send

1274
01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 7>me his phone number.

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01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:00.239
<v Speaker 3>What is it in?

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01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:07.480
<v Speaker 7>Zero two four seven two eight seven zero nine.

1277
01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:07.960
<v Speaker 3>People.

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01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you understand this, but this Troubleshooter

1279
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Network has a pretty damn good impact when our listeners

1280
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:16.519
<v Speaker 4>truly call.

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01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:16.880
<v Speaker 10>Now.

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01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm never asking you to harass or to be vulgar

1283
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.639
<v Speaker 4>ever nor threatening, but just to say we know about you,

1284
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:27.880
<v Speaker 4>we found out about you. We're going to let everyone

1285
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:29.880
<v Speaker 4>we know know about you.

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01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.360
<v Speaker 3>In fact, that has way more credibility than being vulgar

1287
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 3>and being you know, crazy. You tell them, look, you know,

1288
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I work in Denver, I'm an executive, or I'm this

1289
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:43.320
<v Speaker 3>or I'm that, and I am going to let everyone

1290
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:47.880
<v Speaker 3>we know on social media and everywhere about you because

1291
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.360
<v Speaker 3>of this situation. So that's what you're doing.

1292
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:53.039
<v Speaker 4>If you want to reference the situation, you can say

1293
01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:54.920
<v Speaker 4>it was a call to the Tom Martine Show.

1294
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 3>That's all you have to do, and give them our number.

1295
01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:59.440
<v Speaker 4>But I want to give this summer out again, and

1296
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 4>I want to implore you. I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 4>how important you are to this process.

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<v Speaker 3>We have been doing this for years and it really works.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you let them know you heard about them, and

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<v Speaker 4>that you're gonna let everyone know, and that you think

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<v Speaker 4>they're deplorable seven zero two four seven two eight seven

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<v Speaker 4>zero nine seven zero two four seven two eight seven

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<v Speaker 4>zero nine more coming right up. Go with a sure

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<v Speaker 4>thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation in comparison,

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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

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<v Speaker 4>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey, I'm Tom Martino,

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<v Speaker 4>your troubleshooter three three seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's go back to Michael, who has this roofing issue. Now, Michael,

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<v Speaker 4>what he did after a hailstorm, had a guy come

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<v Speaker 4>up who said, you know, you got some problems on

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<v Speaker 4>the roof and the adjuster proof twelve grand. They were

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<v Speaker 4>going to pay eight grand. Rocky Top roofing or demanded

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<v Speaker 4>the money, so he gave him an insurance check plus

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<v Speaker 4>six hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>And now he's being ghosted.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Michael, you have not heard a word from this

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<v Speaker 4>guy at all.

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<v Speaker 11>Initially, okay. So I was initially ghosted, and he well, okay,

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<v Speaker 11>and I would get a hold of him sporadically, and

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<v Speaker 11>then he'd say, you know, I'll get you on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 11>get you on the schedule. He finally got me on

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<v Speaker 11>the schedule in November, so that was after three months

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<v Speaker 11>after paying him, and the guys came out to start

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<v Speaker 11>the roof. Now, in the process of the workers doing

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<v Speaker 11>the roof, one of them fell through the roof and

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<v Speaker 11>through the filling. I immediately called my insurance company and

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<v Speaker 11>told them what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, you hold on, this is getting this is

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<v Speaker 4>getting very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>You yeah, you hold on, man, We want to hear

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<v Speaker 3>about this coming up on the Troubleshooter show.

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<v Speaker 4>Please stick around. The guy fell through his ceiling. What's

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen. How can we help all of that

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<v Speaker 4>coming up? Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

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<v Speaker 4>Excel Roofing dot com. You don't pay a cent until

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<v Speaker 4>you're content. Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation.

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<v Speaker 4>In comparison, call help us insurance pay too much your

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<v Speaker 4>coverage at dozens of insurance companies. Find out now three

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01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:07.640
<v Speaker 4>oh three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're

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<v Speaker 4>his only customer when you choose Frank durand the real

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<v Speaker 4>estate Man dot com to list your home with Remax

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<v Speaker 4>Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Ript news. You needed that? Who you don't have?

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<v Speaker 2>Come running as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 14>Come.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 3>one three talk is the local number here. We also

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<v Speaker 3>have three oh three Martino. You can call it twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four to seven and get in on whatever show we

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<v Speaker 3>get you in on.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have much of the same. I say much

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<v Speaker 4>of the same. It's so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>We have Margaret who paid eighty four hundred dollars up

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<v Speaker 4>front ghosted.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we have another guy that paid money.

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<v Speaker 4>Upfront an insurance check and they started the job in November,

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<v Speaker 4>but the guy fell through the frickin' roof.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to have a lesson in Hey, Brian Burns,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk to you first. Brian Burns is with Compass

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<v Speaker 3>Insurance Group. There are guests today doing the insurance Help Center,

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<v Speaker 3>so as they do every day, but while they're here,

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<v Speaker 3>we highlight that you can do an insurance check up

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<v Speaker 3>by calling them directly and then they'll compare your coverages

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<v Speaker 3>with us out there three h three nine nine six

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<v Speaker 3>nine thousand. But here in the studio, Brian is with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian, when I hire a company at my house, let's

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<v Speaker 4>just talk about that in general, whether it be for

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<v Speaker 4>mowing the lawn, doing the roof, building a deck, what

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<v Speaker 4>do I have in terms of coverage?

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<v Speaker 5>You do have premise liability, but it would have to

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<v Speaker 5>involve some sort of negligence. I mean, these are companies

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<v Speaker 5>that are you're hiring to come do a job, so

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<v Speaker 5>they should have workers comp for their That's right, they should.

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<v Speaker 3>They should.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I'm asking you is, if I have a

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<v Speaker 4>guy helping me build the deck, and the deck falls

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<v Speaker 4>on them.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that about?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that would be liability if in fact, again, what

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<v Speaker 5>would happen is they would sue you, Your liability would

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<v Speaker 5>step into protect you, and if you're liable, then your

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<v Speaker 5>liability limit could protect you for that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, can you ever see a scenario where my liability

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<v Speaker 4>coverage might refuse to cover me, Well, but the courts

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<v Speaker 4>might say I need to pay them.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be hard for me to imagine.

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<v Speaker 5>Nless you have some sort of exclusion, like if this

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<v Speaker 5>was an intentional thing or you know, something along those lines,

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<v Speaker 5>like your kid working on it, right, right, if it's

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<v Speaker 5>a household member, if it's someone, then your household you're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to your liability won't cover that. But I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying it would be hard for me to think, like

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<v Speaker 5>in this case that a roofer falls through that you've hired,

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<v Speaker 5>You're like, you're not negligible for that. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 5>is part of his job, that's what he's there to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so let's find out what happened.

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<v Speaker 13>But bottom line, Brian, if you got sued by him

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<v Speaker 13>for whatever reason, they would have to defend you.

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<v Speaker 5>They would defend you, and then if you are found liable,

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<v Speaker 5>then that's where your your liability them it would come

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<v Speaker 5>into play.

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<v Speaker 4>So Michael had a hailstorm and hired Rocky Top Roofing

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<v Speaker 4>and then they they started the job in November.

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<v Speaker 3>Continue your story, Michael, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, So they fell through the roof. I immediately called

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<v Speaker 11>my insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>And how many fell through the roof? How many fell

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<v Speaker 4>through the roof? And did he get hurt?

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<v Speaker 3>Did he get hurt?

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<v Speaker 11>They didn't say, Well.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, and why was your reaction to call your insurance company.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just curious since.

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<v Speaker 11>They had already since I had already paid their portion

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<v Speaker 11>of the check to him, and I didn't know what else.

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<v Speaker 3>To do at that point. It okay, okay, So then

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<v Speaker 3>what and then what happened?

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<v Speaker 11>Goes, Did they provide you a permit? And I go, no,

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<v Speaker 11>they didn't. He goes, They're supposed to provide you a

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<v Speaker 11>permit or post a permit immediately before they start work.

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<v Speaker 11>And so he goes to the state website to look

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<v Speaker 11>for a permit and find no permit pulled for my address.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there wouldn't be on the state website and it

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be on the state website anyway, But kid, it.

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<v Speaker 10>Was a county.

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<v Speaker 11>It was a county for Colorado Springs, but I'll correct myself.

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<v Speaker 11>It was a county for Colorado Springs. This happened in

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<v Speaker 11>Colorado Springs. And when Okay, So I called the county directly,

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<v Speaker 11>the per office, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Why you care. I don't know why you care about

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<v Speaker 4>a permit. What does that have to do with anything?

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<v Speaker 3>It was his insurance aggestion.

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<v Speaker 4>But that doesn't have anything to do with anything. Nothing, zero,

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<v Speaker 4>It has nothing to do with coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>But keep going. What happened?

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<v Speaker 10>Then?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay? So the permit guy says, well, he probably didn't

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<v Speaker 11>give you a permit because he hasn't updated his business

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<v Speaker 11>license and he hasn't provided us with updated liability insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So you want to know who's going to pay

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<v Speaker 4>for all the damage to your house. You're not worried

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<v Speaker 4>about the guy that got hurt. You're worried about who's

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<v Speaker 4>going to fix your house.

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<v Speaker 11>And I don't blame you, yeah, yeah, yea and so,

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<v Speaker 11>and then I also called Aaron and told him what happened.

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<v Speaker 11>And I called That was my second call, and he's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, don't worry about it. We'll fix everything at

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<v Speaker 11>no cost to you. And you know, so that took

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<v Speaker 11>probably most of the month before they fixed that.

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<v Speaker 3>They did, so they hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>They they they did fix it though, they did fix

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<v Speaker 4>the ceiling and all of that.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they okay.

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<v Speaker 11>And they also finished the roof. So at the okay,

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<v Speaker 11>remember everything was done okay. And and then when I

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<v Speaker 11>mentioned he didn't there was no permit, he goes, yes,

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<v Speaker 11>there is, so I guess in the interim he fixed

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<v Speaker 11>everything and did end up pulling a permit.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, So where do we stand now? Why are

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<v Speaker 4>you calling so?

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<v Speaker 11>I okay, there there wasn't another problem in the roof

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<v Speaker 11>where somebody told me that it looks like there's a

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<v Speaker 11>crack in the rafter okay. And then he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 11>we don't know that we did that, and we're not

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<v Speaker 11>going to worry about that. You'd have to prove that

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<v Speaker 11>we did that, okay. So and I talked to a

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<v Speaker 11>real estate agent because I was also.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Michael, how old is your house? How old is

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<v Speaker 3>your house?

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<v Speaker 11>Built in the seventies, and we were also told there's

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<v Speaker 11>probably a besto.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think Michael that well the asbesia has nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with the roofer. But do you think they

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<v Speaker 4>cracked the rafter? How would they have done that by

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<v Speaker 4>maybe overloading the roof of the materials or something.

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<v Speaker 11>By the falster?

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<v Speaker 10>I figured, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's more than likely.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it could be through the when he fell,

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<v Speaker 4>but it could be where they stacked you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>bundles of roof on top of your roof.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, keep going. So what happened then?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay?

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<v Speaker 11>So and another thing, I had people helping me fix

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01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:00.560
<v Speaker 11>up the house because I was also looking at selling

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<v Speaker 11>the house. So he knew that I was trying to

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<v Speaker 11>also sell the house. I had a real not at that.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter what he knew. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know why you brought that up. But okay, so he

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<v Speaker 4>knew you were trying to sell the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Big deal.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 11>I had called around to attorneys. No attorneys really wanted

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<v Speaker 11>to help me.

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<v Speaker 3>Attorneys for what. You jumped right to attorneys attorneys for what?

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<v Speaker 10>Because of the rafter?

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm?

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, how much how much was it going to cost

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<v Speaker 4>to fix that rafter?

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<v Speaker 11>I was told that there's a whole new engineer's inspection

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01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:51.079
<v Speaker 11>that needed to be done and another permit pool and

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01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:53.760
<v Speaker 11>the engineer's inspection was about fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollars okay, okay, how much would it how much would

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01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:03.000
<v Speaker 3>it cost to actually fix that all? They don't have

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01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.960
<v Speaker 3>to replace that whole rafter, They just have to reinforce

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01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it where it's cracked.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, he said that they can sister it in.

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<v Speaker 4>But right, that's exactly right, that's exactly right, and that's

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01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:17.399
<v Speaker 4>the proper term they could sister it in.

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01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:20.359
<v Speaker 3>So what's going on? I mean, where are we going

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01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:21.079
<v Speaker 3>with the story?

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01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:23.199
<v Speaker 10>So okay?

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01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:28.720
<v Speaker 11>So here it is many months later, yes, after stop

1524
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:33.119
<v Speaker 11>and he tells me. I'm like, so, what's going on?

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01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.560
<v Speaker 11>Where are we finished here? And he tells me I

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<v Speaker 11>have additional supplements so that I have to provide to

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01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:47.000
<v Speaker 11>the insurance. He give the insurance and me a bill

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01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:50.279
<v Speaker 11>for thirty three thousand dollars.

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01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:53.600
<v Speaker 10>What yeah?

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01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but did the insurance pay it?

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01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:57.560
<v Speaker 10>Okay?

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01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:01.840
<v Speaker 11>So the initial estimate by the insurance was twelve okay,

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01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:05.239
<v Speaker 11>So when I gave when he gave it the insurance,

1534
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:07.880
<v Speaker 11>the adjuster calls me and he goes, what is this?

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01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:13.279
<v Speaker 11>He goes, No, residential roof is thirty three thousand dollars.

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01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 4>There are plenty of them there, There are plenty of them, don't.

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01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:22.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't care about that. What I care about is this.

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01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:25.279
<v Speaker 3>What was it for.

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<v Speaker 11>So additional work that he's saying that he did to

1541
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:35.720
<v Speaker 11>the house, including removal of a satellite system that we

1542
01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:39.840
<v Speaker 11>never even had. So and I even mentioned to the adjuster,

1543
01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:43.720
<v Speaker 11>and maybe the adjuster didn't catch it.

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01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:45.119
<v Speaker 10>I said, if.

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01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.359
<v Speaker 11>There's things that he didn't even do to this house,

1546
01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:50.319
<v Speaker 11>isn't that considered fraud? And the adjuster goes, well, yes

1547
01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:52.000
<v Speaker 11>it is, but then well, of.

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01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Course it is. Of course it is. But here's the

1549
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:58.520
<v Speaker 4>bottom line, Michael. Your insurance didn't pay it. You don't

1550
01:21:58.600 --> 01:21:59.319
<v Speaker 4>have to pay it.

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01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:01.560
<v Speaker 3>If it's fraudulent, don't pay it.

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01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:03.359
<v Speaker 10>Okay, But they did.

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01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:08.359
<v Speaker 11>Okay, so they approved another three thousand, five hundred dollars,

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01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:10.720
<v Speaker 11>which I have to check here, I have.

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01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Another way another wait he wait, they filed supplements for

1556
01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:21.359
<v Speaker 3>thirty three thousand dollars and your insurance paid three thousand.

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01:22:23.479 --> 01:22:26.840
<v Speaker 11>They yes, the insurance adjuster said the most that they

1558
01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 11>could approve off of there was thirty five hundred dollars.

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01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay for weato for good?

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01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't.

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01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:37.680
<v Speaker 3>What are you calling about?

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01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:40.920
<v Speaker 11>Because he's trying to get the rest of the money

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<v Speaker 11>from me.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, hold on, that's what I wanted to know. I

1565
01:22:44.319 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 4>got to take this break. So now they're coming after

1566
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:48.520
<v Speaker 4>him for the rest of the money. What can he do?

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01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.479
<v Speaker 3>We'll talk to Brian Burns and Moore coming up on

1568
01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:51.479
<v Speaker 3>the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Tom Martino here chero three Martino. Gail has a

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01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:44.920
<v Speaker 3>question on travel insurance. That's an interesting topic, travel insurance. Gail.

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01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:46.199
<v Speaker 3>What is your question?

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<v Speaker 20>Hi Tom, Just kind of question about travel insurance. The

1582
01:23:58.119 --> 01:24:03.800
<v Speaker 20>rates very obviously probably or is there is she just

1583
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:05.239
<v Speaker 20>go through the agency that you're with.

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<v Speaker 4>Now are you talking It depends on what kind of

1585
01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:10.960
<v Speaker 4>travel insurance. Are you talking about insurance that you have

1586
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:16.119
<v Speaker 4>while you're traveling, or travel insurance on the trip itself,

1587
01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.600
<v Speaker 4>like if you can't make it, or if it's weathered

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01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:20.920
<v Speaker 4>out or something like that.

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01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:24.000
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, something like that.

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01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:24.680
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:27.279
<v Speaker 4>Also in other words, in other words, if you plan

1592
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:32.760
<v Speaker 4>a big vacation for Europe and something goes wrong and

1593
01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:35.680
<v Speaker 4>you can't make it, or something happens with a cruise

1594
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:39.279
<v Speaker 4>line or something like that, you're talking about that kind

1595
01:24:39.279 --> 01:24:40.039
<v Speaker 4>of insurance.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Alliance which is probably the biggest one out there,

1597
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:47.239
<v Speaker 13>they have exactly what you're talking about, Tom, But you

1598
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:50.920
<v Speaker 13>can also add on if you get sick or have

1599
01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:52.880
<v Speaker 13>to go to the emergency room, So you can add

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01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 13>on that level if you want to.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was your question, Gail, about that specific travel

1602
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.319
<v Speaker 3>insurance or about that kind of insurance.

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01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:10.840
<v Speaker 20>Well, I just wanted to cover a basis on them.

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01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:19.800
<v Speaker 20>How to go about an agency? Okay, and all.

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01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:21.319
<v Speaker 4>Right, that's good, Like where do you buy it? And

1606
01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:24.920
<v Speaker 4>that's a great question, a good try. Are you using

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01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:30.039
<v Speaker 4>a travel agency? Because travel agencies are the best people

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01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:34.199
<v Speaker 4>you can have for referrals to those because they do

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01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:35.199
<v Speaker 4>so many of them.

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01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a travel agent?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, did you ask your travel agent about travel insurance?

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01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:51.399
<v Speaker 20>We did, but we thought we'd check up just some

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01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:52.079
<v Speaker 20>other options.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so compass insurance. You guys deal with travel insurance ever?

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01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Or do you know any good in travel insurance?

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01:25:58.800 --> 01:25:59.199
<v Speaker 3>We don't.

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01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:01.600
<v Speaker 5>We don't have anything to do with travel insurance, So

1619
01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:03.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm not a very good resource for that one.

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01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 4>I would say I would rely on my It is

1621
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:15.520
<v Speaker 4>such a rare form of insurance itself that I would

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01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:21.079
<v Speaker 4>rely on my travel agent. Have they made any recommendations

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01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:21.439
<v Speaker 4>to you?

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01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:25.039
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, they did.

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01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:30.119
<v Speaker 20>We kind of so it will probably end up doing that.

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01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:31.399
<v Speaker 11>But how much.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they how much?

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01:26:32.319 --> 01:26:34.840
<v Speaker 4>How much give me an idea of their premiums? How

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01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:35.720
<v Speaker 4>much did they want?

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01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 20>I didn't really get any prices. I just I just

1632
01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:43.880
<v Speaker 20>asked them and they said, yeah, we can, we can

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01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:44.479
<v Speaker 20>recommend you.

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<v Speaker 3>And all as Mark said, alliance Alliance with the Z

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<v Speaker 3>A L L I A N Z is what Mark

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about. They are in in survey after survey,

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01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:02.920
<v Speaker 3>they're about the highest rated out there. That's right, the

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<v Speaker 3>highest rated.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I'm not saying in general it's a good product,

1640
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:11.720
<v Speaker 13>but if you ever did get sick in Europe, Oh man,

1641
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:14.439
<v Speaker 13>it would cost you a fortune.

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01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:19.079
<v Speaker 4>And the insurance and also the trip itself. A lot

1643
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:22.279
<v Speaker 4>of these places went out of business. Guess what drove

1644
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:23.159
<v Speaker 4>them out of business?

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01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Remember, yeah Coch Yeah, because they couldn't cover all the trips.

1646
01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:31.680
<v Speaker 3>They just couldn't do it. That was a bad That

1647
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:35.840
<v Speaker 3>was a bad time for travel insurance and for the

1648
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:38.399
<v Speaker 3>cruise industry, tour guides.

1649
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:46.079
<v Speaker 4>There were so wedding venues, there were so many places

1650
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:48.079
<v Speaker 4>that went out of business as a result of that.

1651
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:49.319
<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

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01:27:49.399 --> 01:27:53.800
<v Speaker 13>There's a good there's a good possibility. Whoever, your travel

1653
01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:57.000
<v Speaker 13>people are use Alliance by the way, they're just quoting you,

1654
01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:02.279
<v Speaker 13>and if not, they can Yeah, hey, by the way,

1655
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:04.319
<v Speaker 13>thinking who did you use?

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01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:07.479
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny hearing someone say a travel agent? Who

1657
01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:11.039
<v Speaker 3>was it? What travel agency did you use? Out of curiosity?

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01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:16.880
<v Speaker 20>Well, Elias is who you're going with.

1659
01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>No, what travel agency did you?

1660
01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:26.079
<v Speaker 20>Oh?

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01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:30.239
<v Speaker 13>I'm not what just for future reference for anybody out

1662
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:33.680
<v Speaker 13>there listening. Actually, I'm not going to steal it from

1663
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:37.479
<v Speaker 13>Tom because he told it to me probably fifteen twenty

1664
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:40.159
<v Speaker 13>years ago. But I have used them so many times

1665
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.479
<v Speaker 13>now I won't use them if we're just flying to like,

1666
01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:44.920
<v Speaker 13>you know, Vegas or something, but if we're going to

1667
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:47.680
<v Speaker 13>Hawaii or if we're doing something big. I am telling

1668
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:52.560
<v Speaker 13>you Costco Travel is absolutely amazing. During COVID when we

1669
01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:56.479
<v Speaker 13>had to cancel a pretty crazy three week Hawaiian deal,

1670
01:28:56.760 --> 01:29:00.079
<v Speaker 13>I got every cent back and I've never had any

1671
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.760
<v Speaker 13>problems here weren't taken care of. And then the pricing

1672
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:06.680
<v Speaker 13>is better than anything I've ever seen before.

1673
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:09.359
<v Speaker 3>It's it's amazing, my mark.

1674
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe some of the deal Stephanie fines on

1675
01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Costco I I I and they're the and they're all

1676
01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:19.000
<v Speaker 4>the same hotels and airlines that everyone uses.

1677
01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:21.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they do it.

1678
01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, when we look at the pricing, it's just

1679
01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:26.199
<v Speaker 4>almost impossible.

1680
01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>They must do such an incredible volume.

1681
01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:32.039
<v Speaker 13>It has to be. It's got to be completely volume related.

1682
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:35.439
<v Speaker 13>And then you save all this money and then next

1683
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:37.840
<v Speaker 13>thing you know, in your mailbox there's like a five

1684
01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:41.239
<v Speaker 13>hundred dollars Costco gift card that's included in it.

1685
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<v Speaker 3>It's nuts, exactly.

1686
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:47.199
<v Speaker 4>So let's go back to Michael on this on this

1687
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:50.199
<v Speaker 4>insurance thing, because I'm here.

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01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:53.439
<v Speaker 3>Here's the bottom line. They're coming after him for payment.

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01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:59.159
<v Speaker 4>So they put in a supplement of thirty three thousand

1690
01:29:59.319 --> 01:30:04.600
<v Speaker 4>dollars a supplement, and then his insurance approved about thirty

1691
01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:09.039
<v Speaker 4>five hundred, and now they want an additional thirty grand

1692
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:13.279
<v Speaker 4>from him. So, Michael, how are they coming after you

1693
01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:14.119
<v Speaker 4>for that money?

1694
01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:14.680
<v Speaker 21>Is?

1695
01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Did they put a lien on your Well, they can't

1696
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:19.399
<v Speaker 3>put a lien. That's probably too late. How are they

1697
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:20.640
<v Speaker 3>coming after you for it?

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01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:22.039
<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.359
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it is six months after the job had been completed.

1700
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:29.399
<v Speaker 11>But he's saying that he could put a mechanic clean

1701
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:33.279
<v Speaker 11>and foreclose against my house, and he's been harassing us,

1702
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:34.359
<v Speaker 11>calling us favorite jing.

1703
01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:35.520
<v Speaker 3>No he can't.

1704
01:30:35.920 --> 01:30:37.920
<v Speaker 4>He can't put a lien on It's too late to

1705
01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:39.039
<v Speaker 4>put a lien on your house.

1706
01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how well was it man? He said? Six months

1707
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:43.640
<v Speaker 3>since the job.

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01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:46.920
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, you're he can't well put a lien on there.

1709
01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:49.560
<v Speaker 13>But eventually you're going to beat it doesn't matter there.

1710
01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's December, January, February, March, April, May. Yeah, you're right,

1711
01:30:54.720 --> 01:30:57.640
<v Speaker 4>you're right, it's May June, seven months later.

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<v Speaker 13>He can't take you to court, I mean really, just

1713
01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:02.520
<v Speaker 13>to get to the end of the call that he's

1714
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:05.079
<v Speaker 13>going to have to do something he's gonna have to

1715
01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:08.199
<v Speaker 13>take action and hire an attorney and come after you.

1716
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:11.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but what I want to know is what is

1717
01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I would be curious what is this extra thirty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 11>I'd be happy to offend you the breakdown, And I

1719
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:23.319
<v Speaker 11>believe me and my realtor were looking at it, and

1720
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:26.600
<v Speaker 11>it looks like he's trying to charge me for his

1721
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:30.760
<v Speaker 11>worker falling through the roof. Because he's talking about painting

1722
01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:35.680
<v Speaker 11>plaster things like that, and he didn't paint anything except

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01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:39.840
<v Speaker 11>for the room that the roof for falter that the

1724
01:31:39.880 --> 01:31:40.720
<v Speaker 11>worker fell through.

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01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like the guy's it sounds like he's a

1726
01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.880
<v Speaker 3>clown or that he's just a crook. I mean, I

1727
01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:47.760
<v Speaker 3>don't know if he is.

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01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:54.640
<v Speaker 11>But but mom, what realtor said that she has another

1729
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:59.119
<v Speaker 11>client that he also worked with to do a roof for,

1730
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:04.079
<v Speaker 11>who was also selling her health and he did the

1731
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:12.359
<v Speaker 11>same exact thing. The worker fell through her roof. Really everything,

1732
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:18.159
<v Speaker 11>he fixed everything, and just before the sale of her health,

1733
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:22.119
<v Speaker 11>he threatened her to put a lean and foreclose on

1734
01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:26.960
<v Speaker 11>the house, so she paid him, even though she knew

1735
01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:31.159
<v Speaker 11>he didn't deserve the money. She paid him the money.

1736
01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:34.720
<v Speaker 11>But now she's looking to file a complaint and do every.

1737
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute to the fact, Wait a minute, are

1738
01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:39.319
<v Speaker 3>you serious? Are you telling me it was the same

1739
01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:42.600
<v Speaker 3>exact type of claim. A guy fell through the roof

1740
01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:47.399
<v Speaker 3>and it was the same roofer. Yes, you know what.

1741
01:32:48.039 --> 01:32:50.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe in coincidences like that. Hold on, we

1742
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:51.840
<v Speaker 3>got more coming right up.

1743
01:32:51.840 --> 01:33:01.039
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, go with a sure thing vers best roofer

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01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.039
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1745
01:33:04.079 --> 01:33:10.520
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<v Speaker 4>In comparison, call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage

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<v Speaker 4>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh

1748
01:33:17.159 --> 01:33:19.600
<v Speaker 4>three seven seven to one help. You'll think you're his

1749
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:22.399
<v Speaker 4>only customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate

1750
01:33:22.439 --> 01:33:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Man dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance

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01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:31.479
<v Speaker 4>three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi

1752
01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:34.720
<v Speaker 4>Tom Martine here three oh three seven one three talks

1753
01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:38.479
<v Speaker 4>seven one three eight two five five. You know, Michael,

1754
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:41.079
<v Speaker 4>the more I talk to you about this roof thing,

1755
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.039
<v Speaker 4>the more I think this thing could have been set up.

1756
01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:47.640
<v Speaker 4>In my opinion, let me let me explain this to you.

1757
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:54.119
<v Speaker 4>First and foremost, you said something that was very curious.

1758
01:33:54.920 --> 01:34:00.000
<v Speaker 4>In the beginning of this call, you said, after a hailstorm,

1759
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:05.000
<v Speaker 4>you had a roofer look at your roof Rocky Top Roofing,

1760
01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:09.880
<v Speaker 4>and they made a note that I very seldom ever

1761
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:15.840
<v Speaker 4>hear roofing companies make a note of. They said there

1762
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:19.399
<v Speaker 4>were soft spots on your roof.

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01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:24.319
<v Speaker 11>Well, I mentioned that because my friends that were helping

1764
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:28.199
<v Speaker 11>me fix up the house cutting trees away, they told

1765
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:30.039
<v Speaker 11>me there was a soft spot on the roof.

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01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Then that is really bad news. That is really bad.

1767
01:34:33.479 --> 01:34:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, I thought that Rocky Top Roofing mentioned it.

1768
01:34:38.479 --> 01:34:41.239
<v Speaker 4>The fact that your friends mentioned it, I'm going to

1769
01:34:41.319 --> 01:34:42.439
<v Speaker 4>tell you something, Michael.

1770
01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:47.079
<v Speaker 3>This is bad news for you because if there was a.

1771
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Soft spot noted on that roof and somebody fell through it,

1772
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:55.000
<v Speaker 4>they're going even though even though they fixed it all,

1773
01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:58.560
<v Speaker 4>they're going to claim that that was not their fault,

1774
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:01.159
<v Speaker 4>that their work or fell through the roof.

1775
01:35:02.239 --> 01:35:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I know that's what they're going for right now. Now.

1776
01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:07.680
<v Speaker 4>The fact that you said this happened on a previous

1777
01:35:07.720 --> 01:35:13.239
<v Speaker 4>house is very, very, very curious. But that aside, if

1778
01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:15.920
<v Speaker 4>your neighbors told you there was a soft spot on

1779
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:19.439
<v Speaker 4>the roof or two and this guy fell through the roof.

1780
01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:24.079
<v Speaker 4>It would indicate your roofing decking may have been failing

1781
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:25.119
<v Speaker 4>in certain areas.

1782
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:26.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1783
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:29.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it was,

1784
01:35:29.399 --> 01:35:32.880
<v Speaker 4>but that is very bad news for you. Does this

1785
01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:38.760
<v Speaker 4>contractor know? Did this contractor mention anything about soft spots?

1786
01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:42.920
<v Speaker 11>He agreed, and he replaced some of the deckings.

1787
01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, when did the falling through happen while they

1788
01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:52.359
<v Speaker 3>were replacing the decking or after the decking was replaced?

1789
01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:55.520
<v Speaker 11>Now, while they were replacing the decking.

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01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:59.399
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think you're going to be rich.

1791
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:03.960
<v Speaker 11>Even though I have a conversation with him that said

1792
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:06.319
<v Speaker 11>that he was going to take care of everything.

1793
01:36:07.079 --> 01:36:09.960
<v Speaker 3>And you said, you have a conversation with him, What

1794
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:11.439
<v Speaker 3>do you mean by that? A recording?

1795
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:13.760
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

1796
01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:14.239
<v Speaker 3>On what.

1797
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:18.079
<v Speaker 11>On the fall through of the roof that?

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01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:21.000
<v Speaker 3>He said, well, no, you have a recording? Is it

1799
01:36:21.039 --> 01:36:23.279
<v Speaker 3>a recording on your cell phone? Where's the recording?

1800
01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:25.239
<v Speaker 11>If on my cell phone?

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01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:31.560
<v Speaker 3>And during the conversation, he says, was our fault? We're

1802
01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:35.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna how is it worded? You have the recording? Can

1803
01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:36.720
<v Speaker 3>you play that recording?

1804
01:36:38.039 --> 01:36:38.159
<v Speaker 16>Uh?

1805
01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:40.840
<v Speaker 10>Let me see. Hold on if I can pull it

1806
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:41.439
<v Speaker 10>up real fast.

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01:36:41.479 --> 01:36:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Here, this is very very interesting.

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01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:46.399
<v Speaker 13>Is maybe the insurance company, if it truly did have

1809
01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:48.640
<v Speaker 13>all this damage and they were going to cover it

1810
01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:52.079
<v Speaker 13>or not going to cover it, but it was related

1811
01:36:52.119 --> 01:36:55.600
<v Speaker 13>to the storm. I wonder if someone like Paragon could

1812
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:59.079
<v Speaker 13>eyeball and maybe maybe the insurance company's a little here

1813
01:36:59.159 --> 01:36:59.600
<v Speaker 13>to blame.

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01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:03.199
<v Speaker 4>You're maybe the insurance cut You're right, Mark, maybe they

1815
01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:07.239
<v Speaker 4>should go back and possibly pay for this. Look, we

1816
01:37:07.359 --> 01:37:11.840
<v Speaker 4>can't automatically assume he's a scan.

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01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:16.600
<v Speaker 13>Sue him and they win for this roof damage. Okay, yeah,

1818
01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:18.880
<v Speaker 13>so let's say they sue him and win. Wouldn't that

1819
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:21.640
<v Speaker 13>insurance company have to step up and defend them if

1820
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:23.640
<v Speaker 13>they come after Ryan for the amount?

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01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.039
<v Speaker 5>Well, so here's what my first question would be on

1822
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:31.800
<v Speaker 5>it is what caused the damage, So we'd have to

1823
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.359
<v Speaker 5>look at what the invoice is. If the damage is

1824
01:37:34.439 --> 01:37:40.239
<v Speaker 5>something that is storm related or insurance related, then if

1825
01:37:40.279 --> 01:37:43.840
<v Speaker 5>they are found that they do owe this money, then

1826
01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:44.800
<v Speaker 5>they would have to pay it.

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01:37:45.439 --> 01:37:48.760
<v Speaker 4>Need no, oh no, oh, no, we're forgetting something.

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01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:50.359
<v Speaker 3>We're not talking about damage that.

1829
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:54.159
<v Speaker 4>What we're saying is this they were in the process

1830
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:59.600
<v Speaker 4>of replacing the decking on his roof when they fell through.

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01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:03.840
<v Speaker 4>So I don't think it's it was anyone's. Is that

1832
01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:07.000
<v Speaker 4>the roofer's responsibility? I think it is. It is so

1833
01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:10.680
<v Speaker 4>they were working. If they were working on the roof,

1834
01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:14.119
<v Speaker 4>If the roof was faulty and the guy fell through,

1835
01:38:14.159 --> 01:38:15.319
<v Speaker 4>that's a different story.

1836
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:18.079
<v Speaker 13>Well, I don't think it's the liability of the guy

1837
01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:20.560
<v Speaker 13>falling through. I don't think they're hitting him with this

1838
01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:24.560
<v Speaker 13>thirty three thousand dollars because their employee was hurt. I

1839
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:27.760
<v Speaker 13>think the thirty three thousand dollars is other work they.

1840
01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:31.680
<v Speaker 5>Did, right, And my point is is we would have

1841
01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:33.960
<v Speaker 5>to see what that is to know whether or not

1842
01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:35.279
<v Speaker 5>it's even insurance related.

1843
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:41.039
<v Speaker 4>Now, he said, Michael said, part of that thirty three

1844
01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:45.560
<v Speaker 4>thousand mark is the damage caused by falling thro hold on.

1845
01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:46.119
<v Speaker 3>That's fine.

1846
01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:49.079
<v Speaker 13>If it is caused by the guy falling through and

1847
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:52.039
<v Speaker 13>they're coming after him for the money, wouldn't the insurance

1848
01:38:52.039 --> 01:38:55.039
<v Speaker 13>company once again have to step up and at least

1849
01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.560
<v Speaker 13>defend him, because now they're saying, hey, we fell through.

1850
01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:01.199
<v Speaker 5>Your root, right, I agree with you, Yeah, but it

1851
01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:04.279
<v Speaker 5>sounds like it's not. I think we're saying two different things.

1852
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:06.279
<v Speaker 5>They're not coming after them for the liability, like the

1853
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:09.840
<v Speaker 5>person getting hurt. Yeah, I agree, it's just the damage

1854
01:39:09.880 --> 01:39:10.720
<v Speaker 5>that they flight.

1855
01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:13.359
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Someone has a roof done.

1856
01:39:13.720 --> 01:39:16.359
<v Speaker 13>Let's say one of these storms that just happened, ye,

1857
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:19.359
<v Speaker 13>and all of a sudden the shingles are bad and

1858
01:39:19.399 --> 01:39:23.119
<v Speaker 13>everybody acknowledges it. The roofer comes out, then they find

1859
01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:25.720
<v Speaker 13>out it needs new decking, Then they find out it

1860
01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:28.600
<v Speaker 13>needs a new joist or whatever he said rights wrong?

1861
01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:34.079
<v Speaker 13>I mean, wouldn't generally speaking, isn't all that covered that is?

1862
01:39:34.319 --> 01:39:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Maybe maybe it is, But if it's something that's just

1863
01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:40.880
<v Speaker 5>been degragated over time, or it's poor workmanship to begin with, yeah,

1864
01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:44.199
<v Speaker 5>there could be reasons why they would exclude it. But again,

1865
01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:46.199
<v Speaker 5>that'd be a great reason to get Mad involved, and

1866
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:47.680
<v Speaker 5>he would be able to tell you one way or

1867
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.960
<v Speaker 5>another if that's what they're saying is accurate.

1868
01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Michael, what I we suggest you do at this point,

1869
01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:58.840
<v Speaker 4>because this is way complicated, You should call a public

1870
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:02.159
<v Speaker 4>adjuster that we give you the name of, and have

1871
01:40:02.439 --> 01:40:04.479
<v Speaker 4>him look at the letter sent to you by the

1872
01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>roofer or the invoice and have him give you an opinion.

1873
01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:13.039
<v Speaker 13>And the ancile letter from the insurance company on the

1874
01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:13.680
<v Speaker 13>rest of it.

1875
01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if there was a denial level letter.

1876
01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:21.840
<v Speaker 4>You need to see if maybe your insurance company should

1877
01:40:21.840 --> 01:40:26.439
<v Speaker 4>be paying Rocky Top for the additional damages. But then

1878
01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:28.399
<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to another thing you said.

1879
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:32.199
<v Speaker 4>You did say that you have a real estate.

1880
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Friend who said the identical thing happened on another home.

1881
01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:38.479
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

1882
01:40:39.039 --> 01:40:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Is she absolutely positive someone fell through the roof and

1883
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:47.800
<v Speaker 4>he's threatened to sue the homeowner.

1884
01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:52.199
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he's threatened to place the lead. He just before

1885
01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:56.359
<v Speaker 11>her house was closing, he called and wanted more money

1886
01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:03.399
<v Speaker 11>or he was going to lean her house, drop her sale, and.

1887
01:41:03.680 --> 01:41:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't do you know if do you know that someone

1888
01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:10.039
<v Speaker 4>actually fell through the roof.

1889
01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:11.119
<v Speaker 3>That's what she said.

1890
01:41:12.159 --> 01:41:15.399
<v Speaker 11>He said she saw the damage, the homeowner saw the

1891
01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:21.199
<v Speaker 11>damage and it went through the ceiling, correct?

1892
01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:26.560
<v Speaker 4>I why don't you gather that information? That is, there's

1893
01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:32.039
<v Speaker 4>something weird about that that even though look, I mean,

1894
01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:35.880
<v Speaker 4>there's something weird about that, truly, truly weird, even if

1895
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:39.039
<v Speaker 4>your insurance company should be responsible if there's some kind

1896
01:41:39.079 --> 01:41:42.119
<v Speaker 4>of scam going on, did you ever tell your insurance

1897
01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:42.960
<v Speaker 4>company about this?

1898
01:41:44.359 --> 01:41:47.720
<v Speaker 11>No, I just found out this information on Friday.

1899
01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:51.720
<v Speaker 4>I would tell your insurance company about it. But although

1900
01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:55.039
<v Speaker 4>your insurance company didn't pay and did you tell the

1901
01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:56.439
<v Speaker 4>roofer you knew about it?

1902
01:41:57.640 --> 01:42:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Who would like to contact this roofer and ask about it?

1903
01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Would you like to do that?

1904
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:03.000
<v Speaker 7>D Yeah, give him a call, right, I can give

1905
01:42:03.039 --> 01:42:04.359
<v Speaker 7>him a call, you know what.

1906
01:42:04.600 --> 01:42:09.640
<v Speaker 4>I want to get that previous information, Michael. Meanwhile, I

1907
01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:13.840
<v Speaker 4>still want you to contact a public adjuster, okay, And

1908
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:17.960
<v Speaker 4>you're going to call Paragon Services Matt Stanford over there

1909
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:20.800
<v Speaker 4>and have him help you out.

1910
01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1911
01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:24.920
<v Speaker 4>I really believe he might be able to get you

1912
01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:27.960
<v Speaker 4>some coverage. But in the meantime, I want to look

1913
01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:33.880
<v Speaker 4>at the so called coincidence between this guy following this

1914
01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:36.279
<v Speaker 4>guy this roof for having someone fall.

1915
01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Through the roof. You know who this lady is? Can

1916
01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:41.079
<v Speaker 3>we contact her and hear it? Michael's going to give

1917
01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:42.600
<v Speaker 3>us the information, right Michael.

1918
01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:44.680
<v Speaker 10>So here's the deal.

1919
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:47.640
<v Speaker 11>I just reached out to the agent and I actually

1920
01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:50.840
<v Speaker 11>asked her this on Friday if the other person would

1921
01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:54.560
<v Speaker 11>be willing to tell her story, you know, to group

1922
01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:56.479
<v Speaker 11>up with me to tell her story. And now I

1923
01:42:56.600 --> 01:42:59.880
<v Speaker 11>just reached out to her again because you said you're fair,

1924
01:43:00.279 --> 01:43:03.640
<v Speaker 11>you don't believe in coincidences. You're very interested and want

1925
01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:07.079
<v Speaker 11>to know about that, you know, So if she's willing.

1926
01:43:07.119 --> 01:43:10.279
<v Speaker 11>I gave her your name and number. Okay, good, good,

1927
01:43:10.359 --> 01:43:12.920
<v Speaker 11>you're when you're available, you know, ten to two?

1928
01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:15.039
<v Speaker 3>All right, we got to take this break. Okay, I

1929
01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:17.000
<v Speaker 3>gotta take this break. It's it's mandatory.

1930
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<v Speaker 4>Right after this, go with a sure thing Denver's Best

1931
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<v Speaker 4>roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1933
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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation comparison call

1934
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<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

1935
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<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three oh three seven seven

1936
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<v Speaker 4>one help. You'll think you're his only customer when you

1937
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<v Speaker 4>choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to

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<v Speaker 4>list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine

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<v Speaker 4>two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three

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<v Speaker 4>h three seven one three three two five five. Marianne,

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<v Speaker 4>let's get started on your case. What's going on, Marianne?

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<v Speaker 17>Oh, A nightmare? Actually, what happened a year ago? I

1943
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:20.800
<v Speaker 17>was contacted by email mind you, by the Small Business

1944
01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:28.479
<v Speaker 17>Administration that I defaulted on a small business loan that

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<v Speaker 17>was taken out during COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it sounds like a scam to me.

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<v Speaker 4>They okay, and they were going.

1948
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<v Speaker 17>To garnish my social Security one hundred and sixty eight

1949
01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:48.960
<v Speaker 17>dollars and some change. I don't remember the change part,

1950
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<v Speaker 17>starting in September of last year, twenty twenty four. Okay,

1951
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<v Speaker 17>and I had to provide them with storms.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, hold on, I smell.

1954
01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:05.359
<v Speaker 4>I smell a scamca hang on, Let's see what we

1955
01:45:05.399 --> 01:45:08.119
<v Speaker 4>can do to help you. This is Marianne talking about

1956
01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:13.359
<v Speaker 4>a nightmare that happened when somebody contacted her about defaulting.

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<v Speaker 3>On a loan. This is a cautionary tale. Let's see

1958
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<v Speaker 3>what we can do. I'm Tom Martino three O three

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<v Speaker 3>seven one three eight two five five. If you want to.

1960
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<v Speaker 4>Get in, go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer

1961
01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Excel Roofing dot com.

1962
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:31.600
<v Speaker 3>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1963
01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:38.159
<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up, free, no obligation comparison

1964
01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:41.840
<v Speaker 4>call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your coverage at dozens

1965
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:44.600
<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three oh three, seven

1966
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<v Speaker 4>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1967
01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:49.520
<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

1968
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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two, ripped.

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<v Speaker 1>You need advice? Who you don't have to come running

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01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>just as fast as we can.

1972
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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help come Man Dix.

1973
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<v Speaker 3>Is the Troubleshooter Show. Now, Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here,

1974
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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the place where you can have problem solved,

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<v Speaker 4>questions answered, complaints resolved.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, we have had such a frickin

1978
01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:34.880
<v Speaker 3>busy day today, So I'm gonna go without further ado.

1979
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<v Speaker 3>Back to the phones. Marianne has an issue with a

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<v Speaker 3>Small Business Administration. Here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, Marianne, it all began what with a

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01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:48.960
<v Speaker 4>letter from supposedly from the SBA.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 17>It was an email? An email from the Small Business Administration.

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<v Speaker 17>The email male titles was PPP ID theft inquiries at

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<v Speaker 17>the small bus at the SBA dot gov.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now here's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 4>There are two different scenarios that happened Marianne during this time.

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<v Speaker 4>One where people truly did have PPP loans taken out

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<v Speaker 4>in their name fraudulently and the SBA was truly looking

1991
01:47:29.880 --> 01:47:36.079
<v Speaker 4>into them. The next scenario was when someone never had

1992
01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:39.399
<v Speaker 4>a loan taken out and it was a phishing expedition

1993
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<v Speaker 4>to try to get you to hit a link and

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<v Speaker 4>submit information.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know which it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Did anyone actually take a loan out in your name?

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently yes, okay, And so what happened then?

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<v Speaker 17>The only thing that the sd gave me was a

1999
01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:08.960
<v Speaker 17>identity theft complaint number, the only thing I have to

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01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:15.159
<v Speaker 17>work with, no information about the loans, no information as

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01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:17.239
<v Speaker 17>to the name of the business.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty normal.

2003
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<v Speaker 13>Basically, they're going to marry in, they're going to investigate it,

2004
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:22.920
<v Speaker 13>and they're not going to garnish your.

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<v Speaker 3>Social Security check while they're doing that. Well, so tell

2006
01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:31.640
<v Speaker 3>me what they did. They started taking your social Security

2007
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<v Speaker 3>check September.

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<v Speaker 17>The middle of September when my social Security check came out,

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<v Speaker 17>Oh my god, was reduced one hundred and sixty eight dollars.

2010
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<v Speaker 21>And some change.

2011
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<v Speaker 3>And how long are they going to do that?

2012
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<v Speaker 17>They did the same thing in October and I have

2013
01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:52.159
<v Speaker 17>been fighting it and.

2014
01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:54.479
<v Speaker 3>How long are they going to how long? How much

2015
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:55.520
<v Speaker 3>do they say you owe?

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<v Speaker 17>They didn't tell me how much, child, Oh, I don't

2017
01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:12.079
<v Speaker 17>know how much I owe? And I have sent every

2018
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<v Speaker 17>document they've asked for, which was tax returns for twenty nineteen,

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01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:27.920
<v Speaker 17>twenty twenty twenty twenty one IRS transcript transcript sorry transcripts

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<v Speaker 17>for the years twenty nineteen and twenty twenty and twenty

2021
01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:41.359
<v Speaker 17>twenty one. A picture of my ID and I mistakenly

2022
01:49:41.479 --> 01:49:46.079
<v Speaker 17>didn't do it correctly by trying to do a selfie

2023
01:49:46.199 --> 01:49:51.000
<v Speaker 17>with holding up my driver's license next to my face.

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<v Speaker 17>That's on me, I guess, But the IRS form forty

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<v Speaker 17>five six dash T.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing, Marianne wait, I'm sorry. Did you never

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<v Speaker 3>do the id ME? She did it? That's what she said.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought. Okay, I don't know. Did you do it

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<v Speaker 3>id me?

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<v Speaker 17>I have an id me account yet, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>When you go to the id me account, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a tab there for accounts of things that you owe

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<v Speaker 3>the government or the government owes you or things. Do

2034
01:50:35.039 --> 01:50:39.039
<v Speaker 3>you have you ever looked at your profile on the

2035
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<v Speaker 3>id ME account?

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<v Speaker 17>I don't know how?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever been able to talk to anyone at

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<v Speaker 4>the Small Business Administration or anywhere with the government about this,

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<v Speaker 4>like actually talk to someone?

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01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:00.800
<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 17>Why because all I have is the email address Tom.

2044
01:51:12.279 --> 01:51:16.479
<v Speaker 13>I have nothing else there's a there's a small business

2045
01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:20.399
<v Speaker 13>or an SBA office in Denver. I think it's right

2046
01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:23.880
<v Speaker 13>around nineteenth Street, and you can call over there and

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<v Speaker 13>schedule an appointment.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first thing I'd get going. Now, Marion, you

2049
01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:33.479
<v Speaker 3>have no idea how much the loan was supposedly for

2050
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:34.560
<v Speaker 3>or anything.

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01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:39.640
<v Speaker 17>No, they've given me no information whatsoever.

2052
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:45.359
<v Speaker 4>You just got to notice saying that they're investigating.

2053
01:51:45.840 --> 01:51:51.399
<v Speaker 17>Took a Small Business Administration here in Denver. Seriously, I

2054
01:51:51.479 --> 01:52:03.000
<v Speaker 17>had to use GPS, and I seriously could not figure

2055
01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:06.760
<v Speaker 17>out how to get to the parking lot of the

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01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:09.479
<v Speaker 17>Small Business Administration in Denver.

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<v Speaker 9>So they do not answer the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is very difficult. Okay, but you do have

2059
01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:25.520
<v Speaker 3>an account number or a case number, right, I have.

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<v Speaker 17>A identity set complaint number. That is all I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, this is terrible.

2062
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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 17>I contacted a lawyer. I was finally able to reach

2064
01:52:48.680 --> 01:52:54.520
<v Speaker 17>somebody at Robinson and Henry and paid one hundred and

2065
01:52:54.560 --> 01:53:01.439
<v Speaker 17>forty five dollar retainer for a thirty minute consultation. And

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<v Speaker 17>the lady told me I did have a good case,

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01:53:08.520 --> 01:53:12.560
<v Speaker 17>but that my only recourse was to file bankruptcy against

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01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:13.520
<v Speaker 17>them to end this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's what she thought, She probably thought that.

2070
01:53:18.279 --> 01:53:20.760
<v Speaker 4>Would be the easiest thing to do it, except bankruptcy

2071
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:24.399
<v Speaker 4>won't get you out of fraud. So I don't even

2072
01:53:24.479 --> 01:53:26.079
<v Speaker 4>understand what she's talking about.

2073
01:53:26.520 --> 01:53:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Fraud.

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01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:30.760
<v Speaker 4>This is they're coming after you for fraud. They're not

2075
01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:34.079
<v Speaker 4>coming after you for repayment. They're coming well, yeah, repayment,

2076
01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:37.960
<v Speaker 4>but they're saying it was a fraudulent loan. So bankruptcy

2077
01:53:38.039 --> 01:53:39.319
<v Speaker 4>is not going to get you out of it.

2078
01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:42.359
<v Speaker 3>You can go to that office away.

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01:53:42.479 --> 01:53:45.960
<v Speaker 13>It's open every day from eight am to four point

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<v Speaker 13>thirty pm.

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01:53:49.239 --> 01:53:49.840
<v Speaker 16>In order.

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01:53:51.199 --> 01:53:55.760
<v Speaker 9>Against this, just take an uber the amount of the loan.

2083
01:53:57.079 --> 01:54:01.439
<v Speaker 17>I have to have all the information for this law. No, okay,

2084
01:54:01.680 --> 01:54:02.439
<v Speaker 17>I have nothing.

2085
01:54:03.880 --> 01:54:05.359
<v Speaker 7>Can I answer the super questions?

2086
01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Marianne?

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01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:08.479
<v Speaker 7>Do you have Do you have a small business?

2088
01:54:10.640 --> 01:54:10.960
<v Speaker 21>Don't know?

2089
01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:18.000
<v Speaker 17>No, should there's never, never, ever has a small business ever?

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01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Do you have your original the all the emails that

2091
01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:22.800
<v Speaker 4>were sent to you?

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01:54:23.800 --> 01:54:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do, Hey, Doc, why don't you take a stab?

2093
01:54:27.560 --> 01:54:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Really, Doc, seriously, you work, you work a lot with

2094
01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:33.439
<v Speaker 4>seniors at aarp of him.

2095
01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:37.720
<v Speaker 13>Any information at that office on her that will never happen.

2096
01:54:39.039 --> 01:54:40.039
<v Speaker 3>God Almighty.

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01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:44.000
<v Speaker 6>So, Marianne, if the problem is that you can't find

2098
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:47.039
<v Speaker 6>a parking spot. Just take an uber down there and

2099
01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:48.199
<v Speaker 6>have them drop you off.

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<v Speaker 17>I don't trust them, you'll trust you.

2101
01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Don't trust who ubers? You gotta get down well wait, wait,

2102
01:54:56.199 --> 01:54:58.760
<v Speaker 3>we can't help you there, Marianne. If you can't take

2103
01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:01.119
<v Speaker 3>public transportation, for God's sakes.

2104
01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:02.960
<v Speaker 4>We can't help you. I mean, you got to go

2105
01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:04.800
<v Speaker 4>down there and make an appointment. You got to go

2106
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:13.600
<v Speaker 4>down there and talk to them. Who don't you trust, Marianne?

2107
01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:19.680
<v Speaker 17>I will, I will see if I can get I

2108
01:55:19.800 --> 01:55:23.399
<v Speaker 17>have a the RTD for seniors.

2109
01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:26.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good friends, good.

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<v Speaker 17>I will see if I can get one of them

2111
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:29.560
<v Speaker 17>to drop me off there.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's why you have If you take your emails with

2113
01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:37.119
<v Speaker 4>you and your ID number, they're gonna help you. They're

2114
01:55:37.119 --> 01:55:39.560
<v Speaker 4>not going to send you away without talking to you.

2115
01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:43.720
<v Speaker 4>This is terrible. I mean, this could happen to anyone.

2116
01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:48.520
<v Speaker 4>So Mark, what do you suspect somebody took out.

2117
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<v Speaker 3>A loan in her name?

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<v Speaker 13>Absolutely, and she's got to get down to that office.

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<v Speaker 15>It's important, Marianne. I used to work for this small

2120
01:55:56.640 --> 01:56:01.159
<v Speaker 15>business administration. They're very can you and you're easy to

2121
01:56:01.239 --> 01:56:04.000
<v Speaker 15>work with. You need to get down there, and if

2122
01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:06.600
<v Speaker 15>I have to, I'd even drive you down there, But

2123
01:56:06.720 --> 01:56:09.520
<v Speaker 15>you have to go there in person and make an appointment.

2124
01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:15.039
<v Speaker 3>And I believe they will help you. I think so too.

2125
01:56:16.479 --> 01:56:19.800
<v Speaker 17>I will certainly try it because I'll print out all

2126
01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:21.000
<v Speaker 17>the emails that I.

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01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Have exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 17>And the responses that I gave, and do this thing I have.

2129
01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:32.960
<v Speaker 4>But let me give you a note. Let me give

2130
01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.800
<v Speaker 4>you a note on how to complain with them. Serious

2131
01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:38.279
<v Speaker 4>and I'm serious now, I'm not kidding. When you go

2132
01:56:38.399 --> 01:56:42.800
<v Speaker 4>down there, start you start with the idea that your

2133
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<v Speaker 4>social security.

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<v Speaker 3>Is now being is now being garnished. You start there,

2135
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:55.279
<v Speaker 3>say my social security is being garnished for money.

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<v Speaker 4>They say I owe you. Start with that, then work backwards.

2137
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<v Speaker 4>Don't go back to the beginning saying I got a

2138
01:57:02.880 --> 01:57:05.960
<v Speaker 4>letter from you guys saying I was in default. Start

2139
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:10.920
<v Speaker 4>from now and work backwards. So many people do just

2140
01:57:10.960 --> 01:57:14.039
<v Speaker 4>the opposite when it comes to complaining. They feel they

2141
01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:18.720
<v Speaker 4>have to be chronological. You can be chronological with a

2142
01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:23.479
<v Speaker 4>complaint after you give the initial complaint.

2143
01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:25.640
<v Speaker 3>The initial complaint should always.

2144
01:57:25.359 --> 01:57:28.159
<v Speaker 4>Start with today and work backwards, and then you can

2145
01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:29.760
<v Speaker 4>be chronological all you want.

2146
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<v Speaker 3>But I would make that appointment.

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<v Speaker 17>Took But if they will continue the garnishment after two months.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when did did they stop garning? Wait? Wait wait

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<v Speaker 3>wait wait wait did they stop garnishing?

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<v Speaker 17>They stopped? Yes, they stopped. Not they took September, they

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01:57:48.159 --> 01:57:50.199
<v Speaker 17>took October and that was all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that okay? And why do you Mark, why

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<v Speaker 3>do you think they stopped?

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<v Speaker 13>Because why do you think they because she filled out

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01:57:57.279 --> 01:58:00.119
<v Speaker 13>the fraud claim, that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that didn't.

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<v Speaker 17>Keep them from asking for more documentations.

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<v Speaker 3>But they stopped. Obviously, obviously you hit a nerve, Marianne.

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<v Speaker 4>You did get them to stop. That's very important.

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<v Speaker 13>It's not even a nerve when you claim the fraud

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01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:21.760
<v Speaker 13>they'll quit garnishing. I mean that should have been done

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<v Speaker 13>on your first notices. Then they wouldn't have even taken

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01:58:25.159 --> 01:58:29.960
<v Speaker 13>those couple months. So when will she get that money back?

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<v Speaker 17>They contacted me last Tuesday and said that they have

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<v Speaker 17>determined that I still oh that this is my debt

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01:58:38.960 --> 01:58:43.279
<v Speaker 17>to I still owe this debt. This is my debt

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01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:45.079
<v Speaker 17>I took out that loan.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they did tell you that.

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<v Speaker 17>At a point, and go in and find out what

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<v Speaker 17>to do and.

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly, okay, Marianne.

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<v Speaker 17>Get a lawyer to help me.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, Well, I don't know if you need an

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<v Speaker 4>attorney first to that business, that person a person, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Marianne, So you expect them to start garnishing again.

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<v Speaker 17>I do, I really do.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they called you and they said, Marianne, we've determined

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<v Speaker 4>this is a valid debt.

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<v Speaker 17>Tom. They never called me. It all done by email.

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<v Speaker 4>They contacted you and said we have determined this is

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<v Speaker 4>a valid debt. Yeah, okay, I think then our original

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01:59:33.239 --> 01:59:38.000
<v Speaker 4>information was correct, even though they only took two months.

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<v Speaker 3>You should go down there and tell them two.

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<v Speaker 4>Months of your social security was garnished and you just

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01:59:44.399 --> 01:59:48.000
<v Speaker 4>got an email saying this is valid, and you're afraid

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to start garnishing again.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly what I would do.

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<v Speaker 4>Go down there as soon as possible, and then call

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<v Speaker 4>us back and let us know what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Tom Martine. We have more coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 3>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 4>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 4>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

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<v Speaker 4>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

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<v Speaker 4>customer when you choose Frank Durand the real Estate Man

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<v Speaker 4>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 4>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi, Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Martino three oh three seven one three talk seven one

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<v Speaker 4>three two five five. Frank Ran the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 4>will tell you what your house will sell for or

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<v Speaker 4>give you an estimate an a not an appraisal, evaluation

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<v Speaker 4>based on market conditions.

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<v Speaker 3>You can depend on Frank. It's free of charge, no obligation.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're thinking about listing Frank Durandereestate Maan dot com

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<v Speaker 4>three o three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Brian Burns,

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<v Speaker 4>Do we have any comparisons to make on homeowner's insurance

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<v Speaker 4>or auto insurance or any kind of quote quote Compass

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<v Speaker 4>dot com or the Insurancehealthcenter dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on? Brian?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I have one here that I thought was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks like someone called us they are with Farmers

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<v Speaker 5>Insurance and they did not realize that. Once we actually

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<v Speaker 5>had their declaration pages, we were able to show them

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<v Speaker 5>that they have a two percent wind hail deductible.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain what that is a two percent wind hail deductible.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain that to that, So.

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<v Speaker 5>That means whatever your dwelling limit is in this case

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<v Speaker 5>it was six hundred thousand, a six hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 5>dwelling limit, their deductible is two percent of that wind

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<v Speaker 5>hail deduct of that dwelling limit. So that would equate

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<v Speaker 5>out to twelve thousand dollars deductible.

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<v Speaker 3>For a twelve thousand dollars deductible they have, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>worse than that.

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<v Speaker 5>So in addition, they have what is called a roof schedule,

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<v Speaker 5>which is essentially actual cash value settlement on the roof.

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<v Speaker 5>The roof is thirteen years old, so they don't have

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<v Speaker 5>roof coverage. You know, if you look at what the

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<v Speaker 5>roof schedule amount is.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Roof schedule means that your roof is worth this much

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty five, this much in twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 3>this much in twenty twenty seven, or or how many

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<v Speaker 3>years from new go ahead exactly, and that yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>shows you once your roof gets to a certain age,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to look at what that schedule says and

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<v Speaker 3>it will tell you what portion of the roof replacement

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<v Speaker 3>they will pay. So ultimately, they had little to no

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<v Speaker 3>coverage for the roof. We've put them or we got

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<v Speaker 3>quotes at least to them for a company called Acuity

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<v Speaker 3>and for auto home and umbrella. They didn't have an

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<v Speaker 3>umbrella before, so we added an umbrella. We got the

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<v Speaker 3>replacement cost on the roof, and we saved them about

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you got them full replacement cost above

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<v Speaker 4>that atrocious coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye plus save the money. Do they understand how lucky

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<v Speaker 3>they were to call you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I think and I'm not the one that talked with them.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes people will hear the three hundred dollars and think, well,

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<v Speaker 5>that's not much of a saving. Since we try to explain,

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<v Speaker 5>I get it, but you have replacement cost on your

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<v Speaker 5>roof now you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Before they they essentially had no coverage on their roof.

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<v Speaker 4>Had they had a hailstorm and it was a sixty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars roof.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have covered the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this new quote would cover the entire thing, but

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<v Speaker 5>they before.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have been they would have had to pay

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<v Speaker 3>out of pocket. You got it exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's my point is it's if there was a loss,

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<v Speaker 5>you would realize how big of a savings that is.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I'm not trying to cast any illusions.

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<v Speaker 5>As roofs get older, it is hard. It's becoming more

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<v Speaker 5>and more difficult to find companies that will do replacement

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<v Speaker 5>costs on that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the key is.

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<v Speaker 5>What we always try to do is we try to

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<v Speaker 5>tell people, Hey, here's your options. Do you want a

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<v Speaker 5>lower premium right, well, then you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 5>higher deductible. But we make sure they understand that exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk to Ruby, now, Ruby, what's going on with

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<v Speaker 3>your twenty thirteen Chevy Equinox.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, I'm Rubing and I live in Atlanta, Georgia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 14>it was so, it was so about three months ago.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, we put.

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<v Speaker 17>A brand new battery in it.

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<v Speaker 16>We put a brand new battery.

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<v Speaker 24>In it since we got it.

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<v Speaker 17>But it won't do anything and it.

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<v Speaker 23>Was so bad.

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<v Speaker 14>A one also gallery a seventy two Coverton Highway, Decatur, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Ruby, when did you how long ago did you

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<v Speaker 4>buy it?

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<v Speaker 18>By?

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<v Speaker 17>Three months ago?

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<v Speaker 3>Three months? Did you have trouble from the beginning?

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<v Speaker 9>And I had trouble from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 16>I have tried to reach out to him, but he

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<v Speaker 16>would not call me back. He was my daughter, it's

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<v Speaker 16>my daughter laws.

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<v Speaker 3>Calm, okay, how much did you pay for it?

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<v Speaker 16>Pretty close to six thousand dollars cash?

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<v Speaker 3>And and did you get any kind of a warranty

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<v Speaker 3>or was it as is as ill? And did you

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<v Speaker 3>have it checked out by anyone? No?

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<v Speaker 23>Her and my son when he got it. But he

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<v Speaker 23>would not answer, no cow at all.

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<v Speaker 14>And he said, Atlanta, I'll come to the highway and

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<v Speaker 14>I've been reaching out.

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<v Speaker 24>Camel five, camel tooom.

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<v Speaker 16>Please reach out to.

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<v Speaker 21>Me and call me.

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<v Speaker 3>My noma is say, okay, hold no, no, no, no, no, Ruby,

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<v Speaker 3>don't give your number out right now. So so right now,

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<v Speaker 3>your son and daughter in law bought a twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>Chevy Equinox for six grand as is And what did

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<v Speaker 3>you have to do other than a new battery? What's

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with it?

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<v Speaker 14>They everybody that the mechanic that looked at say, the

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<v Speaker 14>motor is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh uh oh. So they can't even drive it

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<v Speaker 3>right now. They can't even drive it.

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<v Speaker 23>She can't even get her test or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>The name of the the name of the place is

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<v Speaker 4>what that she bought it. You said a one auto gallery.

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<v Speaker 3>A one auto gallery, right right?

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<v Speaker 17>Uh huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here, I'm going to give it to someone who

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<v Speaker 4>wants to take a shot, maybe, Bo, Hey, Bo, how

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<v Speaker 4>about taking a shot at your Georgia accent and call

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<v Speaker 4>down there to uh a one auto gallery at least

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<v Speaker 4>see what they say.

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<v Speaker 3>A Enoma you hold on, I want that.

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<v Speaker 4>I want that number in a second here, Okay, what's

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<v Speaker 4>the number?

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<v Speaker 21>M h huh yeah, okay, all right, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 11>Hold on and we've been reaching out.

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<v Speaker 4>Now listen, I want to tell you something, Okay. I

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<v Speaker 4>just hope there may not be unless this dealer is

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<v Speaker 4>stand up or something, we may not be able to

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<v Speaker 4>do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>If you bought it as is.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to check the laws in in Georgia about

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<v Speaker 4>as is. But I think it's going to be the

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<v Speaker 4>same as here in Colorado. I think you may see

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<v Speaker 4>here's the problem, Ruby. If you buy it as is,

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<v Speaker 4>you buy it with all the trouble. You know that, right, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's possible there's nothing the mecca. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 4>dealer might say it's your problem. Okay, hold on, I

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<v Speaker 4>got to take a break hold on, Bo, would you

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<v Speaker 4>take this and see if we can make a call

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<v Speaker 4>for Okay, we got more coming right up. Go with

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<v Speaker 4>a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't pay a cent until you're content. Time for

2352
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<v Speaker 4>an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison, call

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<v Speaker 4>Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens of

2354
02:08:52.760 --> 02:08:55.439
<v Speaker 4>insurance companies find out now three oh three seven to

2355
02:08:55.479 --> 02:08:58.279
<v Speaker 4>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

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<v Speaker 4>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 4>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 4>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Tom Martino here three O three seven one three

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<v Speaker 3>talk seven one three eight two five five. Hey Victoria,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on with you? Hi?

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<v Speaker 24>Do you hear me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? I Ken, Victoria, what's going on with you? So?

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<v Speaker 24>My mom and I uh started paying on a car

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<v Speaker 24>from a dealership, and.

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<v Speaker 20>It turns out that.

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<v Speaker 24>The issues I'm having, multiple people are having.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it's a twenty sixteen surrender. It's when did you

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<v Speaker 4>buy it?

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<v Speaker 24>When did we start paying on it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 24>November or it was late.

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<v Speaker 4>November, okay, and that's when you bought it, right, you

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<v Speaker 4>bought it in November, yeah, okay, And and what went

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<v Speaker 4>wrong with it?

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<v Speaker 24>So with that dealership, you have three days to take the.

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<v Speaker 9>Car back, okay, and the car the car.

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<v Speaker 24>Broke down on me on the fifth day, and so

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<v Speaker 24>it was too late for them to do anything. So

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<v Speaker 24>they recommended a dealership that we had warranty with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And what happened.

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<v Speaker 24>They had to replace the hoses. The powers like just

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<v Speaker 24>went out on me.

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<v Speaker 11>Like the car.

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<v Speaker 24>Wouldn't accelerate, so they had to replace like thirty different hoses,

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<v Speaker 24>and then the spark plugs, and then not too long later,

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<v Speaker 24>they had to replace the spark plugs again. And the

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<v Speaker 24>spark plugs were not the problem. And so every time

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<v Speaker 24>the car was going in to get sixed, it was

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<v Speaker 24>for the same thing over and over again. And so

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<v Speaker 24>when I was on the highway, the car went out

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<v Speaker 24>and I almost got hit by a semichuck because it

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<v Speaker 24>just died right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Victoria, Victoria, how many miles on this car?

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<v Speaker 24>I don't know off the top of my head. It's

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<v Speaker 24>a good I think it's about.

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<v Speaker 9>Sixty thousand, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And another question, another question I have is did you

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay each time you took it in.

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<v Speaker 24>No, but we did end up paying five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 24>out of pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>What wait? Wait, wait, why did you what did you

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<v Speaker 3>pay five thousand dollars for.

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<v Speaker 24>So many different things? And because we took it to

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<v Speaker 24>the actual Kia dealership because since since the twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 24>it's more electrical, so they would have to correct parts

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<v Speaker 24>for it, and so like a lot of things got replaced.

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<v Speaker 24>And they said that the dealership previously that I got

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<v Speaker 24>it from glued parts together. Oh no, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 24>and so they try to cover up leaks with glue

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<v Speaker 24>and this and that. And so my mom and I

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<v Speaker 24>paid about forty five over forty five hundred dollars fixing

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<v Speaker 24>the car and it's still not driveable.

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<v Speaker 3>And wait wait wait are you? Are you saying, Victoria,

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<v Speaker 3>after paying forty five or let's say, around five grand

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<v Speaker 3>out of pocket, it's not driveable at all or it's

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<v Speaker 3>just poor.

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<v Speaker 24>It's not drivable.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what does the dealer, okay, forget about the people

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<v Speaker 3>that sold it to you? What does this dealers say

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<v Speaker 3>that took five grand from you? What do they say

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<v Speaker 3>about that if you spend five grand? What do they

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<v Speaker 3>say about it not being driveable.

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<v Speaker 24>They're recommending that we traded in, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 24>people won't like get set down the trade because we

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<v Speaker 24>still own nineteen thousand dollars on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, wait a minute, you own nineteen grand

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<v Speaker 3>on it?

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, and the car has that in mechanic shops longer

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<v Speaker 24>than we drove it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, where did you what's the name of the dealer

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<v Speaker 3>you bought it?

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<v Speaker 24>Drive Time in Lakewood, Denver?

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<v Speaker 3>Drive Time?

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<v Speaker 7>My god, I just looked at Drivetime's website. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 7>actually have two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah what do they have?

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<v Speaker 7>Five day return guarantee and they also have a thirty

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<v Speaker 7>day fifteen hundred mile limited warranty. And it sounds like

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<v Speaker 7>our caller may have been made have been unaware of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I wait wait, so you bought it?

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<v Speaker 3>You bought it from drive Time in Lakewood? Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>and and they say, what what do they They want

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<v Speaker 3>you to trade it in?

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<v Speaker 7>No, the repairing dealer wants they were to trade it in.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, did you did? Did drive Time in Lakewood?

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<v Speaker 4>What did they say about this car?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh?

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<v Speaker 24>I think he's a manager. His name is Nico. I

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<v Speaker 24>kept letting him know every time that the car was

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<v Speaker 24>breaking down.

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<v Speaker 4>And literally, like, how can people how honest to god

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<v Speaker 4>look at I hold on a second, Victoria. I know

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people are making mistakes out there with cars,

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<v Speaker 4>I know they are, But does that give dealers a

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<v Speaker 4>license to cheat like this and to be to be

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<v Speaker 4>that crooked? I mean, come on, man, it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>make sense to me. I'm not saying they're lying and cheating,

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<v Speaker 4>but it sounds to me like they knew this car

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<v Speaker 4>might have been not in the great shape. Why didn't

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<v Speaker 4>you take it to be checked out?

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<v Speaker 24>So here's the thing, if you let me finish replace. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 24>if you go on the website, you go to the

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<v Speaker 24>review section and then there's like categories at the top.

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<v Speaker 24>You press lowest reviews and you will see that there's

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<v Speaker 24>multiple people having the same problems at me and people

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<v Speaker 24>that can afford an expensive diagnostics. They got quoted almost

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<v Speaker 24>eight thousand dollars in repairs and they said the same,

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<v Speaker 24>like similar things that that the mechanics there were covering up.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Victoria, listen, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure what we can do, but we will

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<v Speaker 4>call them for you and see, I mean, here's why

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<v Speaker 4>you guys spent five thousand dollars on this car and

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<v Speaker 4>it still isn't running right.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we can ask them to a.

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<v Speaker 24>Lot of people won't accept it as a trade because

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<v Speaker 24>of the condition it's in, and it's like a risk

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<v Speaker 24>for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I understand that, let's see what we can get

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<v Speaker 4>drive time. Maybe we can get drive time to either

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<v Speaker 4>take it or to get it running for you. I

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<v Speaker 4>am people, this is becoming epidemic. This is becoming, I

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<v Speaker 4>swear to God, epidemic for people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so bad now. I know people are making big mistakes,

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<v Speaker 3>but it just seems like they're being taken advantage of.

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<v Speaker 3>How do these dealers go to sleep at night? How

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<v Speaker 3>do they do it knowing that young people have put

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<v Speaker 3>everything they have into this. There's gotta be some morality here.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, we got hold on. We're gonna have somebody

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<v Speaker 3>call for you. I'm gonna put Deputy d on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just hang on, okay, he'll be talking to you. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Martino. We got more coming up.
