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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great America work on. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful Monday afternoon. The Tri State Reds baseball off today,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of our respite until tomorrow Tuesday, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>business special on Thursday. The Seattle teams in town and

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds are hotter than the firecracker right now. One

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<v Speaker 1>to five of the last six they're impregnable. They're unbeatable.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they have the whole team coming back on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday tomorrows. The life should be a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>But set things up for the American people. There's a sense,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon conversations and based upon leeks out of Columbus,

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<v Speaker 1>that the deal is done. Relative to the Browns getting

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<v Speaker 1>about six hundred and sixty million dollars the Bengals getting

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe three hundred million. When I had on Denise

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<v Speaker 1>tree House, the chair of the Commissioner's Hamley County last week,

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<v Speaker 1>she said it's one third, one third, one third. The

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<v Speaker 1>state gives one third, the Bengals slash NFL gives one third,

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<v Speaker 1>The taxpayers in Hamley County give one third, one third,

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<v Speaker 1>one third, one third, and she's cautiously optimistic it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to pass that one third from the state would be

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<v Speaker 1>about three hundred million dollars. The whole deal about eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty eight hundred and sixty million. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the price will go up, and when I speak to

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<v Speaker 1>the leaders in Columbus, I'm not sure that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>There is some apprehension as to whether hard work and

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<v Speaker 1>schleps like Tony Benner should pay sales tax so multi

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires can have their play pens that Tony can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>to watch games. So as a consequence, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have more leadership on and I have calls into Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Mike DeWine and Speak of the House Matt Huffman twice

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<v Speaker 1>last week scheduled to come on the show with me,

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<v Speaker 1>but said let's wait a little bit longer. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say he canceled. What he wanted to do was wait

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<v Speaker 1>about a week or two. So I kind of want

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<v Speaker 1>to get the insight on what's happening at Columbus with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals from Representative Adam Byrd, who's the Assistant Majority

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<v Speaker 1>Floor Leader, is one of the four leaders of the

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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives. He's at the table when discussions are

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<v Speaker 1>had about dividing up by the monies. And then also

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<v Speaker 1>I might add the Carl Linder would like a chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of so also for some developments next to TQL Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, deer Park High School could use some state money.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to the athletic director at deer Park High School,

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<v Speaker 1>and since the state's handing in all this money, how

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<v Speaker 1>about give him a couple million dollars at deer Park

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<v Speaker 1>High School for the new polo field. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Adam Bird of New Richmond more or less, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Representative,

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<v Speaker 1>you're at the table. You're the assistant Majority four leader

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<v Speaker 1>in the House. And there was reporting last week that

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<v Speaker 1>the House had approved something in the range of six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty million dollars or so in bonds to

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<v Speaker 1>be paid over thirty years to give to Jimmy Haslam,

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<v Speaker 1>the owner of the Browns, to move the Cleveland team

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<v Speaker 1>from northern Tokuyhoker County to southern Cauyhoker County as part

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<v Speaker 1>of a multi billion dollar development. So can you generally

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<v Speaker 1>speak to the issue whether the lawmakers in Columbus are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to give the Browns the Bengals, TQL Stadium, Carl Linder,

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<v Speaker 1>and Deer Park High School. Lots of money. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you say about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, No, it's great to be with you today. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot in there. You know, personally, I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of money for dear Park High School and whatever they

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<v Speaker 2>need there to keep the Wildcats in option. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the deal that the Ohio House approved

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<v Speaker 2>last week, that was six hundred million dollars in bonds.

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<v Speaker 2>But but but remember this bill that that this is

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<v Speaker 2>a deal where the state is going to make money

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<v Speaker 2>or be held even And this this deal for for

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<v Speaker 2>moving the Browns to Brook Park. That the state's part

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<v Speaker 2>of that is only one six of a project that

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<v Speaker 2>is three point six billion in scope. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>Haslm family, the locals, they're putting off a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money here. And so this is a completely different story.

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<v Speaker 2>In my mind, I'm just one person, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is completely different because the state is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be held harmless in that and may even make money.

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<v Speaker 2>And also don't forget that for the state's section of

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<v Speaker 2>this part of this, the Haslm family put up fifty

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars as collateral that will grow in an escrow

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<v Speaker 2>over the next thirty years, whose value. Its value could

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<v Speaker 2>be around two hundred million dollars in the next thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>So the State of Ohio is holding on to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of collateral here. We're only putting up one sixth

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<v Speaker 2>of the project, and there's no general revenue fund being

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<v Speaker 2>put into this bill, no general revenue fund being put

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<v Speaker 2>into this project. And I say that at the same

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<v Speaker 2>time that we've given over one hundred million dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>the State Fair. We've already given money to TQL Stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>We've already given money to the Columbus Crew. We've already

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<v Speaker 2>given money to the ATP ten Tennis Center in Mason,

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<v Speaker 2>We've given money to Intel, We've given money to Andrew,

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<v Speaker 2>and we give to projects all over the state of

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio bill. So there's a lot of investment that the

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<v Speaker 2>State of Ohio has made and will continue to make

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<v Speaker 2>because we want Ohio to be a destination state. We

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<v Speaker 2>want this to be a place that retains our citizens

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<v Speaker 2>and people want to come here and it's a great

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<v Speaker 2>place to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the Hanslam deal with the Browns, it passed

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<v Speaker 1>I think by one vote. And when there's some more

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<v Speaker 1>or less vacant land in southern Cayhoga County that produces

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<v Speaker 1>little or no money presently. And so from the state's perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>they look at this undeveloped land in southern Cuyhoga County

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<v Speaker 1>and they can say, Okay, you're we're going to put

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<v Speaker 1>up one sixth of the money you're going to put up.

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<v Speaker 1>And when all this happens in the next two to

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<v Speaker 1>three four years, the sales tax from this brand new

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<v Speaker 1>development that doesn't exist presently would be of such a

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<v Speaker 1>character that the state's going to actually make money. In

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<v Speaker 1>addition to that, the states held harmless because of this

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million in escrow that's going to grow over the

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<v Speaker 1>next thirty years, maybe the two or three hundred million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>in which case the state's going to lose no money.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that different than the Bengals deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Way different? Bill? And remember when you put a dome stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know the Indianapolis Colts and this dome stadium

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<v Speaker 2>over there that they have been and gobbling up all

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<v Speaker 2>of the big things that come to Midwestern United States.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's time for Ohio to get in this game.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when this happens, if it happens and we

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<v Speaker 2>bring the Super Bowl to Ohio, we bring the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Draft to Ohio, when you have Monster truck pulls and

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift concerts and and so we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>an investment for the Cleveland Browns. We're talking about an

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<v Speaker 2>investment that that's not just ten games a year. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about fifty to sixty major events throughout the year.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is going to present such tax benefit

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<v Speaker 2>to the state of Ohio that will we'll make money

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<v Speaker 2>on this deal. And again, Bill, your reader, your listeners

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<v Speaker 2>need to know that this is not costing the general

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<v Speaker 2>revenue one dime, Okay, not one dime, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>all bond money that we are going to make back

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps double what the cost is over the next

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a couple of decades with the kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>events that we're going to attract you Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, there's no deal for the Bengals as

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<v Speaker 1>we sit here this Monday afternoon, there's no long document

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<v Speaker 1>that says, okay, the Bengals are great to stay. The

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<v Speaker 1>county agrees, everything's negotiated, it's done. All we need is

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<v Speaker 1>one third from the state. Am I correct in making

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<v Speaker 1>that statement, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are absolutely correct. There is no deal done. And let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you something here, Bill, I'm just one guy, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not in favor of a deal for the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals until we get a couple of conditions in place.

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<v Speaker 2>Number One, the least with Hamilton County, in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>and my way of thinking, needs to be renegotiated because

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<v Speaker 2>this is among the NFL's worst for taxpayers in all

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<v Speaker 2>of America. The Bengals retain all the stadium revenue, all

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<v Speaker 2>the concessions, all the parking, all the merchandise, They the

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<v Speaker 2>least that they have mandates, capital improvements, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>game day expenses are paid by Hamilton County. And guess what, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>they named the pay Course Stadium and they're making money

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<v Speaker 2>off of that when they don't even own the stadium, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And so all of the while, the Cincinnati Bengals valuation

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<v Speaker 2>has grown from like five hundred million back in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties to four to five billion dollars today. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's a fair deal at all for them

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<v Speaker 2>to have every everything leveraged against Hamilton County. So why

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<v Speaker 2>would the state participate in a deal that is so

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<v Speaker 2>unfavorable the taxpayers, and many consider the worst in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>That's number one. Number two, if we can get this

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<v Speaker 2>renegotiated so it's not so poor for the taxpayers. Number two,

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bengals present a deal to the state where the

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<v Speaker 2>state can make money or at least be held even,

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<v Speaker 2>and you make those two Again, I'm just one person bill,

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<v Speaker 2>but those two conditions I think are reasonable for the

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<v Speaker 2>state of ohiore And.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Browns case, this is a thirty year bond. This,

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand deal, the money from the state needs

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<v Speaker 1>to come up real soon because they want to redo

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<v Speaker 1>pay Course stadium and they need the money now to

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<v Speaker 1>make it look better. Unlike the Browns deal, this deal

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<v Speaker 1>is we need two hundred and fifty three hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars now. And the Governor, Mike DeWine. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>call in to him to come on either Tuesday or Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>But Governor Mike Dwine has said that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>low priority. Have you in your meetings with Matt Huffman,

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<v Speaker 1>the Speaker, and with Mike DeWine, have they expressed concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about using public money middle class sales tax money to

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<v Speaker 1>benefit billionaires when it doesn't look as if there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a return other than Joe Burrow winning the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, which would be a great I'm all in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of the Bengals State. I think even though you

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<v Speaker 1>live in New Richmond, I think you want the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>to stay. But in my correcting, state of the money

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<v Speaker 1>to Cleveland is paid in such a way the state

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<v Speaker 1>will actually make money. The money here must be given

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<v Speaker 1>up front.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're stating a lot accurate there, Bill. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that the Cincinnati Bengals are regional draw and they get

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<v Speaker 2>people from Kentucky and Indiana and all parts of Southern

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio that come to And yeah, I want nice things

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<v Speaker 2>for our area, for Southern Ohio, and I do want

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<v Speaker 2>it to be a destination and a place for people

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<v Speaker 2>to go. But as you said, they were wanting general

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<v Speaker 2>revenue fund dollars up front, Bill, and that's just not

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. We did not spend any of the

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer's money on this Cleveland Browns deal, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been approved. It's only been through one chamber. It's

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<v Speaker 2>still got to be approved in the Senate, and the

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<v Speaker 2>governor still has to sign it. And this does not

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<v Speaker 2>give any general revenue tax money to the Browns, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that we should give any The same

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<v Speaker 2>thing should be true for the Bengals. We should not

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<v Speaker 2>be giving hard working taxpayer money for this project unless

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of demands are meant. Number one, this is

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<v Speaker 2>me you can build, but this stadium leaves with Hamilton

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<v Speaker 2>County gets the worst in the NFL. And why would

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<v Speaker 2>we throw good money after a bad lease. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to have that lease renewed, in my mind, and we

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<v Speaker 2>need a deal where they present a plan to us

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<v Speaker 2>where the state makes money or is held even, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're not using taxpayer dollars to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you bond the three hundred million dollars the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>won over time? Could you much like in the Cleveland deal?

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a sense I don't know. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>deal will be struck tomorrow, Maybe the Bengals in the

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<v Speaker 1>county will come together. Here's the deal. It's eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>pages long, it's all written. Everybody agrees, contingent upon the state.

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<v Speaker 1>If all that happens in the next few weeks, June

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<v Speaker 1>thirtieth is kind of like a cutoff date because for

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<v Speaker 1>you in leadership of the House. The two year budget

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<v Speaker 1>begins July first of twenty twenty five until July first,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven, and so the train's going to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the station soon plus all out or near that date.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have to notify the county if they want

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<v Speaker 1>to extend the least for two more years, in which

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<v Speaker 1>case under the old lease, which gets worse and worse

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<v Speaker 1>and worse. And so if all this comes together in

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<v Speaker 1>the next two or three weeks in inner page lease

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<v Speaker 1>understanding passed by the Commission, are you willing to bond

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<v Speaker 1>that money over the next thirty years like in the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns deal.

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<v Speaker 2>What I would say, Bill is cincinti. Bengals present a

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<v Speaker 2>plan that shows the state making money or held even,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're right about the timing. The timing is very short.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say that the has one family in

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Browns have been very proactive in working this

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<v Speaker 2>for the last year or so, and so now it

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<v Speaker 2>seems I don't have any proof of this, but it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like the Bengals are trying to parachute in at

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<v Speaker 2>the last second. They have not talked a deal, they

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<v Speaker 2>have not met any of these things that I have

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<v Speaker 2>suggested should be in place beforehand. But the time is

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<v Speaker 2>of essence right now, and the State Senate's considering the

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<v Speaker 2>budget right now. Over the next month, they'll pass a

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<v Speaker 2>budget that that changes what the House did, or they'll

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<v Speaker 2>late and leave something the same. Then the two chambers

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<v Speaker 2>will get together and negotiate the differences, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>governor gets the line item veto and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have to all of that has to

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<v Speaker 2>be done by the end of June built and so

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<v Speaker 2>the time is time is running short, and and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know. The Bengals are used to

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<v Speaker 2>getting whatever they want with Hamilton County, so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I personally don't know that there that Hamilton County is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to be able to negotiate any

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<v Speaker 2>friendlier terms than than what is right now. That the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL's worse for taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that's not a complete redoing of that lease

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<v Speaker 1>leadership of the House, is am I correct in stating

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<v Speaker 1>if the status quo is more or less maintained, that

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Bill, I'm just one person, Okay, I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody else. I'm just one vote out of ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>And and to me, though, I think we recognize I do,

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<v Speaker 2>I recognize that this lease is not good for the taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 2>and and so there needs to be a change there

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind. But again, I'm just one vote. Show

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<v Speaker 2>us mingles, show us a deal where the state makes

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<v Speaker 2>money or held even and and present that. And don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know if you just come and say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>want and fifty million dollars, I don't think there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be any appetite at all at all in the

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<v Speaker 2>House or the Senate. I suspect Senator Blessing from Hamilton

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<v Speaker 2>County is going to be opposed to any general revenue

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for the Bengals as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the line item veto is kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the weeds. But if the governor can

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<v Speaker 1>line item veto something out, and the governor's not not

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<v Speaker 1>keen on any of these deals, it would take a

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<v Speaker 1>sixty vote in the House and Senate to override the

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<v Speaker 1>governor's veto. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>That is correct, Bill, And I would say that there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably not a six there's not sixty votes in the

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<v Speaker 2>House to override the governor's veto. On this particular issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, let's see what happens. He could do that, now,

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<v Speaker 1>the governor, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Could line item veto that. We'll see what happens. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, again, I'm not opposed to nice things for

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<v Speaker 2>southern Ohio. I would love to see the Bengals be

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<v Speaker 2>a place that attracts people from all over Central you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio and Kentucky and Indiana. Sure, and you know we

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<v Speaker 2>have people who come here all the time for game days.

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<v Speaker 2>But this, here's another part of the Bengals steel bill

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<v Speaker 2>that I find particularly offensive, the deal that they hit

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<v Speaker 2>with Hamilton County. Hamilton County can't schedule any events there

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<v Speaker 2>without the Bengals being able to veto anything else. Why

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<v Speaker 2>why can't Why does an organization that doesn't own the stadium?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do they get complete veto over the scheduling of

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<v Speaker 2>any events in a stadium that they don't own.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the landlord normally pays for the ban. The landlord

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<v Speaker 1>normally calls the tune. Except in this lace, the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>is true. The Bengals have complete control over a stadium

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<v Speaker 1>they don't own.

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<v Speaker 2>There, you go, all right, Well, at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least that's a reality check from Adam Bird, Assistant Majority

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<v Speaker 1>Floor a leader and lastly, about a minute remaining. New

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<v Speaker 1>Richmond has recovered magnificently from the flood. Tell me the

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<v Speaker 1>status of New Richmond this Monday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, Bill, the people have come together. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just really again proud of the resilience of my town.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's so many people at school, kids

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<v Speaker 2>have come together, Volunteers have come together, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hard working place of people who love the river.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just really proud of the way that they

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<v Speaker 2>continue to bounce back. And so you and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to meet and get together at the Front Street Cafe

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<v Speaker 2>and have a workshop or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it there and I'm going to come up soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to come this week and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was open, but I'm sure things are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be better on a warm June evening. But stay representative.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Bird, you're at the table in the leadership. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're bringing reality to these issues and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talking needs to be done and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>hurdles have to be overcome in a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. Hope springs eternal and Adam Bird,

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<v Speaker 1>State Rep. Once again, thank you for coming on the

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Adam, Bill. It's always an honor and I

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<v Speaker 2>can see it for some you me, Bryson d. Chambeau

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<v Speaker 2>and Rory Okay, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take Rory in that match. Take no, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>him because that story with yesterday was unbelievable, how he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna win, He's gonna lose, hes gonna win, gonna lose,

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<v Speaker 1>then he's gonna win, and it was dramatic television. But

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<v Speaker 1>to Adam Bird, thank you very much and God bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. All Right, let's continue with more

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<v Speaker 1>if a line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, that, my fellow Americans, is a dose of

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<v Speaker 1>reality on seven hundred WULW