Speaker 1: The one two pits got it, slaving stack Cremucky pulls
Speaker 1: off the upset.
Speaker 2: That's the way Darren Headrick called it. On Friday night,
Speaker 2: when the Kentucky Baseball Wildcats opened a three game series
Speaker 2: with Oklahoma with a thrilling win over the Sooners. Little
Speaker 2: did we know at that point, although you kind of
Speaker 2: thought there might be a chance that the Wildcats were
Speaker 2: going to win not just the series, but sweep and
Speaker 2: put itself right back in contention for a good spot
Speaker 2: in the NCA Tournament. Welcome to the Big Blue Insider,
Speaker 2: Dick Gabriel with you on a Monday. We will talk
Speaker 2: Kentucky baseball a little bit later on with Keith Madison,
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame coach who worked on radio side
Speaker 2: with Darren both on Saturday and Sunday. As the Cats
Speaker 2: closed it out with the Mother's Day win yesterday, and
Speaker 2: I saw this. I'm not sure who had it first,
Speaker 2: if UK had it or somebody else did on the interweb,
Speaker 2: but Kentucky never trailed after a full inning. Oklahoma took
Speaker 2: the lead early in a couple games, but Kentucky answered
Speaker 2: immediately either tied it up or took the lead. And
Speaker 2: so Kentucky was absolutely on point for the entire weekend. Now,
Speaker 2: this is in contrast to the weekend prior when the
Speaker 2: Wildcats just slogged through the series with Mississippi State and
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs swept at a time when Kentucky should have
Speaker 2: won at least one and could have won a couple games,
Speaker 2: really needed to, but just didn't play well. And this
Speaker 2: was after the loss in the midweeks. So Kentucky reeling
Speaker 2: going into this series, but did not look anything like
Speaker 2: that team. It looked like a team that's absolutely ready
Speaker 2: for postseason. Now, there's one more series coming up with Vanderbilt,
Speaker 2: but the Wildcats now thirteen and fourteen on the season. Look,
Speaker 2: everybody gets into the SEC tournament, that's not a problem,
Speaker 2: but you want to get as many wins as you
Speaker 2: can to try to lock in at least a bye.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get a double buy if for Kentucky,
Speaker 2: but to at least get a buye and improve your standing,
Speaker 2: of course in postseason. But what that does is prep
Speaker 2: you for the NCAA. Is Kentucky sad to say, doesn't it?
Speaker 2: With all due respect, doesn't have enough pitching. I don't
Speaker 2: think to win the SEC tournament. Stranger things have happened,
Speaker 2: but you've also got to look ahead to the NCAA
Speaker 2: tournament and have your pitching ready for postseason. But this
Speaker 2: is a Kentucky team that has been tested against a tough,
Speaker 2: tough schedule and is ten and ten against Quad one teams.
Speaker 2: They are ten and ten against ranked teams, eleven Quad
Speaker 2: one victories. And the Wildcats they're just tough physically, they're
Speaker 2: tough mentally. They've bounced back a couple times this year.
Speaker 2: They have now been hit by pitches one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty five times. That is a program record, single season
Speaker 2: record for hbp's third in the country, and over the
Speaker 2: last three years the Wildcats have been hit by pitches
Speaker 2: three one hundred eighty four times. You know by now
Speaker 2: if you follow Kentucky that the motto is we don't
Speaker 2: move and it pays off. They got all kinds of
Speaker 2: free bases against Oklahoma, not just bruises, but walks. They
Speaker 2: got some timely hitting Tyler Bell with a two run
Speaker 2: home run in the fourth yesterday. God, he crushes the
Speaker 2: ball sometimes. He has reached base safety now just a
Speaker 2: freshman forty seven of forty eight career games twenty straight games.
Speaker 2: Do you remember if you played Little league or higher
Speaker 2: you remember what it was like if you played a
Speaker 2: ball game and you never got on base. I don't
Speaker 2: know about you, but I always felt like I kind
Speaker 2: of cheated myself if I never, you know, either walked
Speaker 2: or got a base hit. I just never felt like
Speaker 2: I was part of the fun offensively, win or lose.
Speaker 2: And so I can't imagine what it's like for a
Speaker 2: guy as a freshman playing in the toughest league in
Speaker 2: America and college ball to get on in almost every game.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. James McCoy had a huge weekend, including yesterday
Speaker 2: two for three, an RBI, a double, couple of walk
Speaker 2: he reached four times. The freshman Ryan Schwartz has a
Speaker 2: big weekend in and out of the lineup and is
Speaker 2: just thriving right now. And of course Ben Cleaver, left
Speaker 2: handed starter yesterday the Slim Reaper six innings, six hits,
Speaker 2: only two runs, eight strikeouts and one walk, and Simon
Speaker 2: Gregorson came in and nailed it down. And in the
Speaker 2: last nine games he's gone seventeen and a third, giving
Speaker 2: up only nine hits, a run and fifteen strikeouts. So baseball,
Speaker 2: Wildcats are playing their best when they new to the most.
Speaker 2: They play at Vandy this coming weekend. They have a
Speaker 2: midweek game tomorrow night with Northern Kentucky. We'll have that
Speaker 2: one for you, Doug Flinn and I will on SEC
Speaker 2: Plus and you can hear it right here on six
Speaker 2: thirty WLAP with Darren Hedrick, and again coming up at
Speaker 2: the top of the hour, we're going to talk with
Speaker 2: Keith Madison, who worked the game over the weekend. Looking
Speaker 2: over at football, a lot of recruiting news right now,
Speaker 2: and the Wildcats are hot after a couple of huge
Speaker 2: offensive linemen from bordering states and according to two four
Speaker 2: seven Sports, both being recruited by O line coach Eric Walford,
Speaker 2: which makes sense. One of them is named Cameron Miller.
Speaker 2: He is from Hammond, Indiana. He is six' five three
Speaker 2: thirty and What miller told two four seven was he
Speaker 2: likes the fact That Eric wolford has sent fifty eight
Speaker 2: people roughly to THE. Nfl and as the young man,
Speaker 2: said that's a lot of. People he, said to have
Speaker 2: that type of development From kentucky is really big for.
Speaker 2: Me this guy paid a visit to THE uk during
Speaker 2: spring practice he, SAID i like the way he, coaches
Speaker 2: how he coaches and why he does things a certain,
Speaker 2: way the way he uses the film, room et. Cetera
Speaker 2: if you listen to The monday Night State wide, show
Speaker 2: you know That Billy relig AND i have discussed and
Speaker 2: Debated Eric. Wolford billy's not a huge. Fan i've, said,
Speaker 2: Well Dick saban wanted to hire, Him Bill belichick talk to.
Speaker 2: Him they must know. Something but apparently recruits like him as,
Speaker 2: well including an old lineman Named Jack fuchs six foot,
Speaker 2: six two. Eighty he is From, Hendersonville. Tennessee he's another
Speaker 2: guy who has come up multiple, times according to two
Speaker 2: four seven to watch practice to talk With Eric. Wolford
Speaker 2: he was in for the spring and he said according
Speaker 2: to the, website he can envision himself one day playing
Speaker 2: For wolford said. Absolutely it was super great getting to
Speaker 2: see him work with his guys and learn his. Style
Speaker 2: so you can find all of that on The Cat's
Speaker 2: pause website two four seven sports dot com or type
Speaker 2: in Cats paws and it'll take you to two seven
Speaker 2: two four seven dot. Com backslash college backs Slash kentucky
Speaker 2: and you're gonna want to. Subscribe of, course they've got
Speaker 2: pretty good info there and right now they get info
Speaker 2: about huge old linemen being recruited by The. Wildcats softball
Speaker 2: is in THE ncaa. Tournament Rachel lawson's ball club gets a.
Speaker 2: Bid they're gonna play in The Clemson. Regional sixteenth straight
Speaker 2: season Under Rachel. Losson this team has suffered from a
Speaker 2: lot of. Injuries this year had its ups and, downs
Speaker 2: but we'll play in The Clemson. Regional clemson got the
Speaker 2: number eleven national. Seed also in that, Regional northwestern AND
Speaker 2: Uc UPSTATE uk not only in the, regional is the
Speaker 2: two seed in the. Regional so The cats open up
Speaker 2: a third seed In northwestern at two o'clock On. Friday
Speaker 2: you can see it ON Espn. Plus so if you were,
Speaker 2: concerned and you should have been about the Softball cats
Speaker 2: because they were, struggling but they're, in not just, in
Speaker 2: but there two seed in The Clemson. Regionals so we'll
Speaker 2: keep you up to speed on. That up, next Former
Speaker 2: wildcats in THE nba. Playoffs some of them are doing incredibly. Well,
Speaker 2: also who's got the toughest schedule in THE nfl coming
Speaker 2: up this? Year who has the best Receivers bengals. Fans
Speaker 2: you're gonna like that, answer and we're gonna find out
Speaker 2: more about how Dub bears came to be and how
Speaker 2: we almost got a lot more of one of the
Speaker 2: great sketches in the history Of Saturday Night. Live bottom
Speaker 2: of The, Hour Ben. Roberts later On Keith madison on
Speaker 2: six THIRTY Wlap welcome back to The Big Blue. Cider
Speaker 2: coming up in just a couple of, Minutes Ben, roberts we'll,
Speaker 2: talk of, Course kentucky, basketball recruiting the, portal the roster
Speaker 2: That Mark pope has put, together been covering the program
Speaker 2: Before The Herald. Leader haven't talked To ben ABOUT uk
Speaker 2: basketball in a, while BUT i know he's in great
Speaker 2: demand for talk shows. Everywhere so we'll talk To. Ben
Speaker 2: and then coming, up as we mentioned earlier at the
Speaker 2: top of the, Hour Keith, madison The hall Of Fame
Speaker 2: kentucky baseball coach who worked radio side With Darren headrick
Speaker 2: over the weekend as The wildcats Swept. OKLAHOMA i, mean
Speaker 2: they needed to win the, series no question about. That
Speaker 2: but the sweep Puts kentucky right back in uh PROBABLY
Speaker 2: i don't want to say the driver's, seat but in
Speaker 2: control of its, fate much more so than it was
Speaker 2: prior to that loss of all three games down In Mississippi.
Speaker 2: State so that comes, up and then the seven thirty
Speaker 2: it's the Nickmnjy own. Show he'll be in a great
Speaker 2: mood when he talks To Darren, hedrick no. Doubt it
Speaker 2: is a great time of. Year if you like college,
Speaker 2: Baseball you've got the tournaments coming, up but you've also
Speaker 2: got in the pro ranks playoff. Hockey if you're like,
Speaker 2: me you don't pay much attention to, hockey you don't
Speaker 2: have any real ties to it if you're from this,
Speaker 2: area but or any rooting interest, Perhaps but playoff hockey is,
Speaker 2: great there's no. Question but so IS nba basketball the.
Speaker 2: Playoffs and, again AS i talk every now and then
Speaker 2: about what goes on with Former wildcats in the, PLAYOFFS
Speaker 2: i was checked AND i checked that throughout the regular,
Speaker 2: season but especially in the. PLAYOFFS a lot of Your celtics.
Speaker 2: Fans they Destroyed Karl Anthony towns and The knicks. Yesterday
Speaker 2: they put up seventy one in the first, half took
Speaker 2: a seventy one to forty six lead on The. KNICKS
Speaker 2: a little ticked off about losing those first two games
Speaker 2: and going to win a one fifteen to ninety. Three
Speaker 2: towns did have a double double twenty one and Fifteen Jalen,
Speaker 2: brunson the Former villanova star at twenty seven, points but
Speaker 2: really nobody else did much for The, knicks so The
Speaker 2: celtics now are looking to even that. Series some Former
Speaker 2: wildcats at play in The Nuggets Oklahoma city series and
Speaker 2: OK c actually won this one ninety two to eighty,
Speaker 2: seven came back and won at won a tight. Game
Speaker 2: that's basically How denver usually wins in the. Playoffs denver
Speaker 2: is won six of its last seven playoff, series but
Speaker 2: now this series is tied at two games. Apiece Oklahoma
Speaker 2: city got great minutes from Obviously Shay Gilgis alexander twenty five,
Speaker 2: points nine of them coming in the fourth quarter When
Speaker 2: okasee went on an eleven oh. Run case And wallace
Speaker 2: had two huge three. Pointers that's, right Former Wildcat case And.
Speaker 2: Wallace if you don't really keep up he is a
Speaker 2: member Of. Okasee you remember they also Have Chet, holmgren
Speaker 2: the seven four kid or whatever he. Is he only
Speaker 2: had eight points but thirteen boards For Oklahoma, city But
Speaker 2: wallace was key in that fourth quarter rally For Oklahoma
Speaker 2: city Against, denver which Has Jamal, murray but he had
Speaker 2: in forty one, minutes he only had seventeen, points So
Speaker 2: Oklahoma city did a nice job on him. Defensively pacers
Speaker 2: beat The. Cavaliers they Destroyed cleveland one twenty nine to
Speaker 2: ONE o. Nine the Only wildcat Former wildcat peripherally involved
Speaker 2: in that one Is Isaiah Jack and remember. Him he
Speaker 2: was a center who played At. Kentucky didn't get a
Speaker 2: lot of, run but he was such a raw talent
Speaker 2: and big he's six' TEN that i thought he would,
Speaker 2: come back but he went after one year and he
Speaker 2: is still With, the pacers but he has not Played.
Speaker 2: Since November on, NOVEMBER first i think it was he
Speaker 2: blew his achilles and so he's been out ever. Since
Speaker 2: then and he was a valuable player coming off the
Speaker 2: bench For. The pacers he averaged about sixteen to seventeen minutes,
Speaker 2: a game averaged, seven points five and a, half rebounds
Speaker 2: so he was an important player For. The pacers but
Speaker 2: again he has been Sidelined. Since november, his, team though
Speaker 2: did take a three to one series lead and right
Speaker 2: on the verge, of course Of, eliminating cleveland which earlier
Speaker 2: in the year looked as though it was really going
Speaker 2: to have a great chance at rolling to at least to.
Speaker 2: The Finals, In Minnesota julius randall huge game For. The
Speaker 2: timberwolves actually this game has Played In, san francisco But
Speaker 2: the wolves got a triple Double From. Julius randall, you
Speaker 2: remember traded From the Knicks to minnesota Four Essentially Karl,
Speaker 2: anthony Towns but randall ended up with twenty four to twelve.
Speaker 2: And ten became just the second Player in minnesota playoff
Speaker 2: history to get a. Triple Double kevin garnett is, the
Speaker 2: other And in game two he had twenty four points and,
Speaker 2: Eleven assists so he is the first player in franchise
Speaker 2: history with multiple twenty point ten plus assist games in
Speaker 2: a single. POST season i know that's really mincing things a,
Speaker 2: little bit but it just goes to show you How when,
Speaker 2: Randall's on minnesota's got. A shot people do believe Though
Speaker 2: the knicks got the better of, that deal but you
Speaker 2: get a chance to see coming down. The stretch So
Speaker 2: former wildcats with great performances over the weekend IN The.
Speaker 2: Nba playoffs biggest news IN the nfl scal schedule release
Speaker 2: that came over, the weekend that came early this, morning
Speaker 2: actually and the teams that will open The season Dallas.
Speaker 2: Versus Philly the eagles are. Defending champions they will Host
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, On thursday september Fourth At Lincoln. FINANCIAL field
Speaker 2: a lot of you out There are, cowboy fans and
Speaker 2: the two teams that love to hate each other will
Speaker 2: open things UP. On nbc who has the, Toughest schedule
Speaker 2: it's all going to. Come out the entire schedule is
Speaker 2: going to be coming out, this week but they have
Speaker 2: released a lot of information and Apparently The New, york
Speaker 2: Giants The New York football giants have the toughest schedule
Speaker 2: of the thirty. Two Teams The cleveland browns right, behind
Speaker 2: them followed By. The lions but the way they figure
Speaker 2: this out is they just look at the teams on the.
Speaker 2: Opposing schedule, of course the computer sets up, the Schedule
Speaker 2: and giants opponents last year one fifty seven percent of
Speaker 2: their GAMES and i think it's eight of their opponents
Speaker 2: made the playoffs. Last year you got a coach on a,
Speaker 2: hot seat you got a team that just isn't. Very good.
Speaker 2: Rookie quarterback so, My man aaron gershawan very Likely and
Speaker 2: i'm sure he knows this is going to be suffering this. Coming,
Speaker 2: season again don't mean to laugh, at him but. It's tough,
Speaker 2: my Team. The packers, OUR schedule i think is, ranked
Speaker 2: Fifteenth But green bay is predicted to win at least
Speaker 2: nine games. Or more there are more. My team The
Speaker 2: Green bay packers HAVE what i believe is rated the ninth.
Speaker 2: Toughest schedule packers are predicted to win nine and a
Speaker 2: half the over nunders nine and a, Half Wins so i'll,
Speaker 2: take THAT and i think we win more. Than That the,
Speaker 2: bengals have according to, the projections the seventeenth, toughest schedule
Speaker 2: so somewhere in the Middle. For cincinnati easiest schedule goes To,
Speaker 2: the niners followed By the patriots And The New, orleans
Speaker 2: saints who now need another Quarterback Because derek. Carr, retired
Speaker 2: hello maybe They Call aaron rodgers go. Right ahead couldn't.
Speaker 2: Care less there's a story out THERE on nfl dot
Speaker 2: com Written By bucky brooks OF The. Nfl network he's
Speaker 2: a former player and. A scout he rated the receiving
Speaker 2: corps for the top teams IN, the nfl and he's
Speaker 2: Got the bengals. On top if You're a, bengals fan
Speaker 2: he believes you've got the best receiving group In The National,
Speaker 2: football league and you better with the money That the bengals.
Speaker 2: Have Spent jamar chase, four years one hundred and sixty,
Speaker 2: ONE Million t higgins, four years one hundred and, Fifteen
Speaker 2: Million mike joseki tight end, three years twenty five and a.
Speaker 2: Half million say thank You To. Joe burrow he was
Speaker 2: advocating for all. Those guys they got their, blockbuster deals
Speaker 2: and Now with cincinnati dominating opponents on, the perimeter better
Speaker 2: be able to. The ball but if, you can you got,
Speaker 2: A shot. Bengals, fans plus obviously you got to show up.
Speaker 2: That defense but You Got. Jamar chase he won The
Speaker 2: Receiving triple crown, last year led the league, in receptions,
Speaker 2: receiving yards. And Touchdowns plus higgins had Ten touchdowns joseki sixty.
Speaker 2: Five Catches so bengals have the best. Receiving corps according
Speaker 2: to an expert ON The, Nfl network philly, is second
Speaker 2: followed By the Vikings And. Tampa Bay billy's Billy Retligious Tampa,
Speaker 2: bay buccaneers so a lot to like if You're a.
Speaker 2: Bengals fan, manageable schedule and perhaps the best receiving corps
Speaker 2: In The National. Football league before we hit, The brake
Speaker 2: i've got to share this. WITH you i was listening
Speaker 2: to a part Of The Rich eisen show and ON The,
Speaker 2: nfl Network and Eisen Had, joe Montagna And joe montagna
Speaker 2: is a very good actor and right now stars and
Speaker 2: A Called criminal MINDS, on cbs but you may know
Speaker 2: him best as part of the discussion Group On Saturday.
Speaker 2: Night live There were bears fans And, dub bears, those,
Speaker 2: Guys Right so. Mantine talked he was one of the
Speaker 2: first guys and he talked about how it actually, came
Speaker 2: about and it all began with the Writer Named, robert
Speaker 2: schmeigel who to me is maybe the best writer EVER.
Speaker 2: For snl it was his idea to come up with
Speaker 2: a sketch involving these guys that sat around, drinking beer
Speaker 2: eating sausages and talking About. The Bears, robert smigel who was,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Was one of the writers at, the time had come
Speaker 3: up with this idea, and, said well, you know you're
Speaker 3: right You're a, bears fan right or of course, you know, he,
Speaker 3: SAID well i got. The sketch we want to do,
Speaker 3: this thing, you know The The. Swirsky brothers you'll, be
Speaker 3: bombed and, you know you'll talk about your brother who's
Speaker 3: not there because he had a, heart attack which all.
Speaker 3: MADE sense i, was LIKE so, i, thought, well hey
Speaker 3: this would, be fun this would. Be great so we do,
Speaker 3: the Thing and, i'm, thinking great the People in chicago
Speaker 3: are going to probably, love this and that'll. Be THAT
Speaker 3: but I think i had to Go to chicago about
Speaker 3: a few, days later as it, turned out AND when i,
Speaker 3: get there that's all people were. Talking about they said
Speaker 3: they were running that skit like twenty four hours on
Speaker 3: the radio, and this and there were there are already
Speaker 3: billboards going up within Months Saying, Dub Bears, Doub Bulls,
Speaker 3: duck Cubs The Dub. Paul university they were putting a
Speaker 3: dog in front of everything There was chicago that they could.
Speaker 3: Think of, and so of Course then george went and
Speaker 3: hosted it a couple of. Weeks later, of course they
Speaker 3: made him, my brother and they would always ask me
Speaker 3: to come In whenever george would. Do It so george
Speaker 3: had Been off cheers then and was like for him,
Speaker 3: was great and he was Living, in chicago just Fly To.
Speaker 2: NEW york i.
Speaker 3: WAS working, i couldn't, you know jump on a plane
Speaker 3: and keep Flying In. New york so he'd, always, say
Speaker 3: yeah My brother bob's not here because He had i'm
Speaker 3: not a. Heart attack AND finally i did one more
Speaker 3: because they happened to be FREE and I think i
Speaker 3: Was In new YORK and I Think danny DeVito, Was
Speaker 3: Hosting so GEORGE and i both.
Speaker 2: Did it and if you're, a fan You Remember chris
Speaker 2: farley was part of this and they wanted to make
Speaker 2: a movie out of, this sketch and it's BEEN done
Speaker 2: i think nine, different sketches eleven, movies Made Including. Wayne's world,
Speaker 2: you know there Were Multiple wayne's. World movies but it,
Speaker 2: didn't happen, of course because They. Lost farley but can
Speaker 2: you imagine if they followed through with the movie and
Speaker 2: montage you talked, about.
Speaker 3: That they did, A movie they wrote a movie, for
Speaker 3: it and we were supposed to do, the movie but It.
Speaker 3: Was Chris chris farley was so huge at the time
Speaker 3: and they wanted to build it around. His, Character yes chris,
Speaker 3: passed away and it was one of those things that
Speaker 3: that was it that kind of Put the nicks on
Speaker 3: doing the movie version. Of it but the movie we
Speaker 3: wound up doing a couple readings of It in chicago,
Speaker 3: for charity and We had ditka come in and actually
Speaker 3: do it, with us and In typical, ditka form we did.
Speaker 3: Two performances he did the. First one we took a.
Speaker 3: Dinner break he went out to dinner with his and
Speaker 3: forgot there was a, second one so it didn't. Come
Speaker 3: back but luckily there WAS a i forget what picture
Speaker 3: was one of the pictures Of The. White sox came
Speaker 3: to the second one and what we got him to
Speaker 3: do because you got him a dude came in because
Speaker 3: we're reading off, Scripts Anyway.
Speaker 4: Hurricane, ditka right?
Speaker 1: Who wins?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 1: Wins more who wins? The fighter Hurricane?
Speaker 4: OR ditka i mean?
Speaker 3: All, that, yeah exactly it's the Mini dick we got
Speaker 3: you many. Miny dick way if the whole team, was
Speaker 3: shrunk maybe they only win by thirty, five points but,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 6: You slipped right back, into it.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah so that's how far. It got they actually wrote,
Speaker 2: the movie but Of course farley passed away way, too
Speaker 2: young and it. Didn't HAPPEN but i Always remember farley
Speaker 2: in one of, those sketches right in the middle, of
Speaker 2: things has a, heart attack, and uh they asked him
Speaker 2: how many for him that that'll Make a. Baker's dozen Bob,
Speaker 2: oh man that was. So Great but i've always wondered
Speaker 2: how that, came ABOUT and i shouldn't be surprised It Was.
Speaker 2: Robert schmigel, All right, Up Next ben Roberts Of The
Speaker 2: harrow leader here on six thirty W lap welcome back
Speaker 2: To The Big. Moon sider joining us now on the
Speaker 2: celebrity Headline Is. Ben roberts he is the beat writer
Speaker 2: for The basketball wildcats heading out of town tomorrow up To.
Speaker 2: The combine do you enjoy, Covering, That, BEN yeah.
Speaker 5: I do it's actually it's kind of one of my.
Speaker 5: Favorite Events the, you, know obviously especially this past, season's
Speaker 5: team that the guys are are, great interviews but they're
Speaker 5: even a little BIT more i don't relaxed is the,
Speaker 5: right word because they're obviously trying TO impress, nba scouts
Speaker 5: but they're a little more laid back in, those settings
Speaker 5: don't have the day to day cried of the college
Speaker 5: season and you Know with Otega And, kobe braa It'll
Speaker 5: be it's always fun catching up of. THOSE guys i
Speaker 5: got to Talk to Reid and Rob And jutsin Edwards
Speaker 5: And antonio reeves last year, and yeah always always good
Speaker 5: seeing those.
Speaker 2: Guys again what do you Think of oway and and
Speaker 2: his his path? Right now how do you see that?
Speaker 2: Playing OUT just i know it's just a, hunch maybe
Speaker 2: but you've, Got it you've had an. Educated, OPINION.
Speaker 5: Yeah I mean i think so far everything has gone
Speaker 5: exactly according to how everybody thought it would go Back.
Speaker 5: In march, You know kentucky's staff was well aware he
Speaker 5: was GONNA test nba draft waters and, encourage him, you
Speaker 5: know to.
Speaker 6: Do SO.
Speaker 5: And i know people some people are kind of freaking
Speaker 5: out about his recent comments about being all in with the.
Speaker 5: Draft PROCESS but i don't know what else you're supposed
Speaker 5: to say in, that, SITUATION right, i, mean obviously you
Speaker 5: know you, Jump in you're not you're not doing it.
Speaker 5: For fun you're not going to say you're wasting. People's
Speaker 5: TIME and i don't think. HE is, i mean, if somebody,
Speaker 5: you know if he impresses the team to the levels
Speaker 5: that they're going to give him a, you know some
Speaker 5: sort of, guaranteed contract multi year contractor or jump him
Speaker 5: way up into first. Round territory that's the whole. Different
Speaker 5: conversation but, RIGHT now, i mean it seems pretty clear
Speaker 5: that he's a borderline draft pick. At all there's obviously
Speaker 5: thinks he can work on in his game three, point
Speaker 5: shooting both both kind of volume and timing of, THAT release,
Speaker 5: i think being number one on, the list and then
Speaker 5: obviously ball handling two and creating his own shot off
Speaker 5: the dribble even better than he. Has been, SO yeah
Speaker 5: I mean I think i kind of see him in
Speaker 5: a similar Situation As antonio reeves when he went through
Speaker 5: the process two. Years, ago Yes and antonio took all
Speaker 5: of that information that everybody was, telling him came Back
Speaker 5: to kentucky for, a year did everything he was asked,
Speaker 5: to do and got drafted the. Next YEAR and i
Speaker 5: kind of see something Similar.
Speaker 7: Unfolding protaga that's Exactly what I'VE what i thought And
Speaker 7: what i've Said about otaga and the road map that
Speaker 7: That basically reeves.
Speaker 2: Got FROM, the nba and then he went out and worked,
Speaker 2: his tailoff didn't he and made. IT work, i mean
Speaker 2: it's like he took every word they said. To HEART
Speaker 2: and i Can't recall ben a player who's done that
Speaker 2: much Better at Kentucky Than. Antonio reeves ind, you.
Speaker 5: Know YEAH and i mean he everybody knew he, could
Speaker 5: shoot but the way, HE won i mean he continued
Speaker 5: to do that at a.
Speaker 4: Very high level and even, higher, level yes but.
Speaker 5: He also was able to create, for himself which he
Speaker 5: showed towards the end of that, first season but showed
Speaker 5: a lot more obviously the. Second year AND then i
Speaker 5: think the biggest thing. Was defensively everybody told him through,
Speaker 5: that process you've got to be a. Better defender you've
Speaker 5: got to be a. Better DEFENDER and i mean he
Speaker 5: was night and day different from year one to year
Speaker 5: or Two. At kentucky and he'll be the first one
Speaker 5: to tell, you that and and everybody around him, will,
Speaker 5: be well we'll tell you that that it was, hard work,
Speaker 5: you know away from, the game so both in practices
Speaker 5: and on his own that that helped him get to.
Speaker 5: That point, and, yes uh, you know will take you
Speaker 5: as a. Smart guy he's a, hard worker and he's
Speaker 5: got obviously a lot of great coaches and players. Around
Speaker 5: him so if he does decide to.
Speaker 6: COME back.
Speaker 5: I would i would be surprised if he didn't make
Speaker 5: a similar lead.
Speaker 2: NEXT year, i Agree and i've talked to a lot
Speaker 2: of people about the Fact that i'm sure you, have
Speaker 2: too that probably the hardest thing to develop to improve upon.
Speaker 2: Is defense because you got all kinds of shooting and
Speaker 2: ball handing drills you, can do but what kind of
Speaker 2: drills do? You do, you know you could do, footwork
Speaker 2: stuff but, you know if you don't have a really
Speaker 2: good player in front of you with, a basketball how
Speaker 2: do you work on? Your defense but it can, be
Speaker 2: done and again we, saw that like, you said With The.
Speaker 2: Antonio reeves we're Talking To ben Roberts Of The hero
Speaker 2: leader covers The. Basketball wildcats so much talk, right now,
Speaker 2: of course it's it's way. Too, soon stuff all the
Speaker 2: rankings been and, YOU know i, always say the internet's
Speaker 2: any bottomless pit and we have to fill it with
Speaker 2: either talk. Or words but so much talk about the
Speaker 2: rankings of the recruiting and the transfer portal classes and.
Speaker 2: All that but by, All accounts hope has put together
Speaker 2: another roster that potentially THERE'S that p word could be
Speaker 2: even better than. Last year is that the way you.
Speaker 6: See, it yeah.
Speaker 5: IT is, i, mean uh, you know there's always so
Speaker 5: many unknowables when you when you go into a situation,
Speaker 5: like this, and obviously at least, this time he'll have
Speaker 5: some guys, coming back and SOME guys i think will
Speaker 5: be key players, coming back especially if a. Taker RETURNS but,
Speaker 5: i think you Know Something colin chandler told me a
Speaker 5: couple of, weeks ago is is uh his cope is
Speaker 5: is always good at its finding guys who are going
Speaker 5: to be the right guys on and off, the court
Speaker 5: that are going to bring the. Right MENTALITY and i
Speaker 5: think if you trust him to, do that the talent
Speaker 5: that he's, assembled here uh is is is. PRETTY unbelievable,
Speaker 5: I mean i think they're definitely A top tennish, preseason
Speaker 5: team and, these days if you're a top tennis, preseason
Speaker 5: team you're you're Certainly a final four contender and even
Speaker 5: a national, title contender just because there are so many
Speaker 5: unknowns going into. A season but if you get a
Speaker 5: group that, can gel that can, play unselfishly, YOU know,
Speaker 5: i think, You Know kobe braa is a perfect example
Speaker 5: of this. PAST season, i mean he's a guy who
Speaker 5: came in a lot OF people i talked to kind
Speaker 5: Of That june, july period thought around the team thought
Speaker 5: he would be, a starter, you know he set out
Speaker 5: some in practice with the pre, existing injury.
Speaker 6: Did not end.
Speaker 5: Up starting otega took that that, starting spot but still
Speaker 5: obviously played from NOT an nba draft pick to now
Speaker 5: The top kentucky player on everybody's draft board going into.
Speaker 5: Tonight's lottery SO just, i mean an unselfish dude who
Speaker 5: just took his role and ran. With IT and i
Speaker 5: Think if pope has a simple a similar crew, this
Speaker 5: YEAR which i think he has judging just talking to
Speaker 5: a few of them already and and hearing what some others,
Speaker 5: have said that that's going to be the biggest key
Speaker 5: is getting everybody on the same page early and then.
Speaker 5: FROM there, i mean he's he's got. The talent it's
Speaker 5: just gonna be a matter of how many of these
Speaker 5: guys can con peek and continue to improve over the
Speaker 5: course of.
Speaker 2: The season what a great exact ample That Now mark
Speaker 2: pope has for anybody who MIGHT be i, don't know
Speaker 2: grumbling or wondering or whatever about minutes or concerned about
Speaker 2: everybody's got To be and Just pointed, KOBE breath, i
Speaker 2: say look at, this guy, you know like exactly what you,
Speaker 2: just said instead of being, a starter came off the
Speaker 2: bench and played his way INTO the. Nba drafts so
Speaker 2: that's invaluable for, any coach Isn't it?
Speaker 5: It IS and I, mean otega, you know obviously you
Speaker 5: want him back If You're, Mark pope but if you
Speaker 5: don't get, him back that means, he's working really gonna
Speaker 5: be a. Draft POSITION and i think that's an even
Speaker 5: better Example, because otega if you remember like, he was
Speaker 5: he was intriguing to a lot. Of us but if
Speaker 5: you go back and look at, anybody's analysis maybe this time,
Speaker 5: last year a little later in the, Off season otego,
Speaker 5: was mentioned but he wasn't mentioned as the guy who's
Speaker 5: going to be the.
Speaker 4: LEADING scorer i could.
Speaker 2: Mark Everything Was, jackson robinson Wasn't It?
Speaker 5: JACKSON robinson, I mean kobe was getting some of those
Speaker 5: mentions with his great three. Point shooting there's a lot
Speaker 5: of Talking About andrew Carr And lamar Butler And kirk
Speaker 5: creesa just down. The list, You know otake it seemed
Speaker 5: like he was the fifth or sixth or seventh, guy mentioned,
Speaker 5: often overlooked and we saw what, He became, SO yeah.
Speaker 5: I think i think there's a lot of guys on.
Speaker 5: That Roster mary williams is another. Great example he was
Speaker 5: nobody in the year draft boards this time, last Year
Speaker 5: and i'm not saying he's going to, be drafted but but,
Speaker 5: you know he was put in a position where he's
Speaker 5: at least in. The conversation, SO yeah, i, THINK yeah
Speaker 5: i think that, first, season obviously for all the other success,
Speaker 5: they had that that's going to be one lasting impact of.
Speaker 2: That Group, ben roberts my Guest From The harold leader
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Speaker 2: on six POINT Thirty wlap. Welcome back we're Talking With
Speaker 2: ben Roberts Of The harrow leader Covers the Basketball. Wild
Speaker 2: cats You Mentioned colin, chandler EARLIER who i firmly believe
Speaker 2: was reason number One That travis, perry, THOUGHT man i
Speaker 2: need to go get. Minutes Elsewhere but i'm As excited
Speaker 2: ben to see him play as anybody on this roster.
Speaker 2: NEXT season, I Mean, Jasper Johnson, malachi mareno all these guys.
Speaker 2: Coming IN but i really am curious in a. Good
Speaker 2: way about About seeing chandler. Come in, you know he's shaking.
Speaker 2: The rust he played so well down, the stretch you know.
Speaker 5: HE did, i mean AND and i don't think anybody
Speaker 5: really got to see The Real colin chandler This. PAST
Speaker 5: yeah i watched him some in. High school actually watched
Speaker 5: them play The three shepherd UH in aau ball sver
Speaker 5: a few. Years ago and, you know talking, to, people
Speaker 5: people some of THE people i trust the most in
Speaker 5: grassroots basketball told me they thought he could be a
Speaker 5: legit one and done player had he not gotten in
Speaker 5: the mission trip that's straight to bey you and people
Speaker 5: were telling, him that and he and he chose to
Speaker 5: to go on that, mission anyway which obviously speaks speaks
Speaker 5: to him as. A. Person uh but then, coming back
Speaker 5: it's hard to overstate, how, difficult uh that this past
Speaker 5: year must have been for him And he he's talked about,
Speaker 5: it plenty and we talked about it again a couple of.
Speaker 5: Weeks ago, BUT yeah i don't, AND well, i know
Speaker 5: we didn't see The Real colin chandler really at, any
Speaker 5: point even when he was showing those flashes late in.
Speaker 5: The SEASON and, i think obviously he's gonna get more
Speaker 5: playing time this, coming season even with everybody they have
Speaker 5: in the, back court but just the fact of going
Speaker 5: into an offseason and a, preseason healthy with that year
Speaker 5: of foundation, Under him it's just going to be absolutely
Speaker 5: huge to be able to go Up Against jalen Lowe
Speaker 5: And jasper Johnson And vinzie Aberdeen and otega if he.
Speaker 5: COMES back i mean he he Just praised otaga all
Speaker 5: season long about how he helped him get in better
Speaker 5: shape and in better basketball shape for the end of.
Speaker 5: The season, so YEAH and i think he's. Another one
Speaker 5: like you mentioned the, incoming guys, THE freshman i think
Speaker 5: this coming season is gonna be kind of where you
Speaker 5: see him maybe take those massive strides over the course of.
Speaker 5: THE season i think you'll see him play. Plenty EARLY
Speaker 5: but i Think The colin chandler that we See in
Speaker 5: november could look a lot different From The colin chandler
Speaker 5: that shows up on the Court.
Speaker 2: In, march man that's going to. Be fun you mentioned
Speaker 2: some of the guys you came through. The portal, of
Speaker 2: course Most Recently Reese potter miami gives them, some DEPTH
Speaker 2: but i am just fascinated by the Fact that aberdeen
Speaker 2: came through. Diabate gam these are guys playing for teams
Speaker 2: that Successfully challenged kentucky IN the sec this, past year
Speaker 2: tremendous athletes and really, nice players and here they are In,
Speaker 2: lexiingon now what did you make?
Speaker 3: Of?
Speaker 5: THAT yeah, i mean, You know diabat was obviously the
Speaker 5: first one in, that duo and that kind of surprised
Speaker 5: me because obviously he, was playing, you know wasn't a,
Speaker 5: regular starter but he was playing a good role on
Speaker 5: two Really good, alabama Teams a final four team And
Speaker 5: the elite eight team that had similar aspirations for.
Speaker 6: Next season so.
Speaker 5: The fact that they were able to, get HIM and
Speaker 5: i think he kind of sums up exactly what, you
Speaker 5: know if you Listen to pope throughout this. PAST season i.
Speaker 5: DON'T know i wouldn't say it was a, surprise NECESSARILY
Speaker 5: but i think the level of length and physicality and
Speaker 5: athleticism once they GOT into sec play maybe made him
Speaker 5: think about future rosters a little. Bit different and if
Speaker 5: you're talking in that, VEIN think i Think via baide
Speaker 5: is exactly the kind of guy you go out. And
Speaker 5: GET and i was Talking To brandon garrison two or
Speaker 5: three weeks AGO and i mentioned Him and brandon kind
Speaker 5: of just kind of flashed that back grin and it
Speaker 5: just talked about how physical he is to play against
Speaker 5: and just watching him play and being out there on
Speaker 5: the court. Against him he was just really looking forward
Speaker 5: to the physicality that he would bring both the practices
Speaker 5: and then obviously. To games, and, THEN yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: denzel was a it was a stunner when he Jumped
Speaker 5: into portal because he was projected as a as a
Speaker 5: starting stuard on the defending. That champions, but uh you
Speaker 5: KNOW found, i mean, you know elephant in, the room
Speaker 5: found the found a better nil Situation. At kentucky But
Speaker 5: also kentucky's ranked Higher than florida and on a lot
Speaker 5: of those pre twenty five lists, right now he's a reason.
Speaker 5: FOR that i think he's put himself in a, position where,
Speaker 5: you know he has just as good a chance to
Speaker 5: get back to, that stage, you Know In march april,
Speaker 5: next SEASON and i also obviously play.
Speaker 4: Maybe a little. Bigger role it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 5: What he does with Him And jalen Lowe if otega away,
Speaker 5: comes back because those are three guys that could obviously,
Speaker 5: be starters and not, just starters but those those, THREE
Speaker 5: guys i don't think would surprise anybody if THEY'RE all
Speaker 5: sec caliber by the end of. The season so that's
Speaker 5: that's gonna be, an interesting uh interesting DYNAMIC if o,
Speaker 5: comes back.
Speaker 2: And so is the Recovery of Jade and quaintin's, but
Speaker 2: uh you're gonna have to be patient. ON that a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes Off With ben roberts uh covers basketball
Speaker 2: catch for The hero leader all these. New faces one
Speaker 2: of the, first games it's weird, to say but one
Speaker 2: of the earliest games they'll play Is the. LOUISVILLE game
Speaker 2: i got, to think as a guy who appreciates a,
Speaker 2: good story you were, Not pleased and not that we
Speaker 2: have any say, in it but that's that's just that's,
Speaker 2: just weird isn't it playing that game?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 5: EARLY yeah i LIKE the i don't like that it
Speaker 5: kind of bucks Up. AGAINST christmas i feel like, every
Speaker 5: year every everybody kind of has to Make their christmas Plans,
Speaker 5: around yeah when When the louisville game is. Gonna BE
Speaker 5: but i do like that from a basketball perspective that
Speaker 5: it it's kind of that that last big non conference
Speaker 5: game before you jump AT a, seah play especially the
Speaker 5: times where it came a Little before christmas and you
Speaker 5: Have that, christmas.
Speaker 4: Break everybody kind of regroups and recovers.
Speaker 5: And and moves on to h to their respective league plays.
Speaker 5: After that and also you get you know There, it
Speaker 5: yeah like you were, IMPLYING there i feel like you
Speaker 5: get a sense of build up to. That, game yes
Speaker 5: it's there that everybody's season on. The calendar it's six
Speaker 5: weeks or seven weeks away at the beginning of, the
Speaker 5: season but it's it's. Right there and if You're a,
Speaker 5: kentucky fan you're looking At how.
Speaker 4: Wolisvill's doing if You're a, woible fan you're.
Speaker 5: Paying Attention now. Kentucky DOING and i obviously you're you're
Speaker 5: not going to get that when it's when it's week
Speaker 5: two of. The season everybody's paying attention to everybody in
Speaker 5: their preseason and obviously both coaches doing a great job
Speaker 5: in the portal and and. Retaining guys, BUT yeah i
Speaker 5: feel like for, the rivalry that's that's.
Speaker 6: Not the best part of.
Speaker 2: The calendar Well maybe, i'm NAIVE but i really believe
Speaker 2: that if both programs keep doing what they're doing now
Speaker 2: and settled back into the, top TEN then i do
Speaker 2: think that that there will be more of a of
Speaker 2: a desire to have, this game more of a high
Speaker 2: marquee value situation WITH the Tv NEW where's tv? Rules
Speaker 2: all we, Know that, BUT man i remember many years
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Speaker 2: two and everybody was up. And arms so just keep
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Speaker 2: up next in our Number To KEITH madison's uk. Baseball
Speaker 2: coach and at the bottom of, The hour nick mnje
Speaker 2: on here on six thirty wlap.
Speaker 8: Then, think anything then tacking donning to.
Speaker 2: Welcome back To The big Blue, and cider and, as
Speaker 2: promised joined now in the celebrity highline by a guy
Speaker 2: who saw some pretty good baseball over the weekend a
Speaker 2: lot of. Us Did Coach, keith Madison the Hall of
Speaker 2: famer who is the winningest head coach in the History of.
Speaker 2: Kentucky baseball second Now Is Nick. Minji Keith and i'll tell,
Speaker 2: you what because the weekends like the one we just
Speaker 2: Saw the wildcats have Really lifted nick MinJe owned to
Speaker 2: number two. Behind you and that was a lot, of fun.
Speaker 6: Wasn't it it, Really was and it was really a.
Speaker 6: Great series it was. CLEAN baseball i think there was
Speaker 6: one error made the. Entire weekend so both teams were
Speaker 6: locked in and competed. Really Well and oklahoma is a
Speaker 6: very good Team and kentucky just had a weekend where
Speaker 6: they did a lot of things very. Very, well YEAH
Speaker 6: and i.
Speaker 2: Want to start with you mentioned clean baseball in. Your
Speaker 2: right in terms of the way the game, WAS played
Speaker 2: i was a little surprised by the Fact, that oklahoma
Speaker 2: which was thirteenth in, the country was. Top twenty legit
Speaker 2: at twin brothers who are going to play, pro ball
Speaker 2: they might make the. Major leagues that would be. Really
Speaker 2: something But the, witherspoon brothers but between them. They struggled
Speaker 2: really all the ou pitchers walks and. Hit batters, AND
Speaker 2: yeah i say That. BECAUSE kentucky i Felt like kentucky's
Speaker 2: approach at the plate was, so good aggressive swings. But
Speaker 2: smart that impressed me as much, as.
Speaker 6: Anything you KNOW what. I, mean, yeah absolutely. You're RIGHT
Speaker 6: they i Think the oklahoma pitching was. Their, downfall yeah because,
Speaker 6: YOU know i was talking To the oklahoma coaches before,
Speaker 6: THE game i think IT was i think It, was
Speaker 6: saturday and they, were saying, you know we Know that
Speaker 6: kentucky plays baseball a what like we do that they
Speaker 6: they're aggressive on, the bases they try to take advantage
Speaker 6: of every mistake. You make and one of the, coaches
Speaker 6: said the key to this, whole series it's preventing the
Speaker 6: leadoff hitter each inning from getting, on base, and boy
Speaker 6: that turned out to be prophetic because it Seemed like
Speaker 6: kentucky took advantage almost every time when we got that leadoff.
Speaker 2: Runner on they, really did and yet at times took
Speaker 2: advantage with. Two outs so it was just up, and
Speaker 2: down especially yesterday when every starter with, one Exception no, i'm,
Speaker 2: wrong everybody every starter got a base. Hit, yesterday yeah one.
Speaker 2: Through nine so that with that kind, OF pressure, i
Speaker 2: mean and then The way kentucky plays on. The bases
Speaker 2: but it, Is interesting, You're right DOUG and i talked
Speaker 2: about this on The, broadcast friday that these teams are
Speaker 2: kind of, mirror images.
Speaker 6: Aren't they they are, they are and they both have have.
Speaker 6: Good players. YOU know i was really impressed With the Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: Catcher carmichael he's a very. Athletic catcher he, can run
Speaker 6: he's got. Some, power uh he's he's built like a major.
Speaker 6: League CATCHER and i was impressed also with the middle
Speaker 6: Infield with willis and His Name. Kyle, Brand Branch kyle
Speaker 6: brand both really. Good players they just, You know branch
Speaker 6: seem to make he seemed to make. Every play, AND
Speaker 6: yeah i like, their club, you know and and it
Speaker 6: JUST and i say, that, thinking MAN if I like
Speaker 6: oklahoma almost really Really, Like kentucky kentucky just.
Speaker 2: Swept them, YEAH yeah i put itself. Into gration now
Speaker 2: you got to go Down to vandy. And win we'll
Speaker 2: talk about that in, a minute but let's Talk about kentucky's.
Speaker 2: Middle infielders you talk about some huge spikes to Fill
Speaker 2: In grant Smith And. Amelia petrie but, once again Everybody
Speaker 2: Knows tyler, bell's story, highly drafted, highly rated and is
Speaker 2: playing with a lot of poise for a freshman at
Speaker 2: a huge home. Run YESTERDAY but I Think luke lawrence
Speaker 2: kind of flies under the radar a.
Speaker 6: Little.
Speaker 2: Bit keith he got off to that slow, start offensively
Speaker 2: but now he's banging the ball and he's making just
Speaker 2: about every play defensively The way. Petrie did Isn't?
Speaker 6: He yes? He is? He is and that, that one
Speaker 6: that home run ball he Had When tyler Bell and
Speaker 6: luke hit the back of the bass cat ball. Was
Speaker 6: crushed and to be honest, with YOU and i don't
Speaker 6: mean this in a, NEGATIVE way i Didn't know luke
Speaker 6: had that.
Speaker 2: In, him, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And he just he crushed that ball and he uh
Speaker 6: and it sort of reminds You of petrie a, little bit,
Speaker 6: you know Because in median had had really good power
Speaker 6: and had put together some great. At BATS but i
Speaker 6: like our middle. End. Field uh we have plenty of
Speaker 6: speed in, the outfield. YOU know i if, we could
Speaker 6: if we could play Well, at vanderbilt, UH man, i,
Speaker 6: like uh, you know you, never know we could we
Speaker 6: could possibly go deep in.
Speaker 2: The tournament, you know another guy WHO is i think
Speaker 2: playing maybe his base best baseball of his career right
Speaker 2: Now is. James. McCoy uh, you know a guy who
Speaker 2: was a right fielder last year For The world series
Speaker 2: team has played very little right field, this year but
Speaker 2: has pitched a, lot more maybe. Not lately And, now
Speaker 2: keith because of injuries and whatever they've they've had to
Speaker 2: play him at. First base and he had rarely played
Speaker 2: first base before he got to college and really before.
Speaker 2: This season yet he's making plays defensively and meanwhile he
Speaker 2: and what if he has four or five hits over.
Speaker 2: THE weekend, i mean, you know when you've got a
Speaker 2: guy like that who can play multiple, positions, defensively pitch he,
Speaker 2: can run and he's a. SWITCH hitter, i mean going to.
Speaker 2: The postseason that's that's you can't ask for.
Speaker 6: Much, more yeah. That's Right and i'm really Happy for
Speaker 6: james because he's he's had to battle every it, seems
Speaker 6: like every game to get into, the lineup And and
Speaker 6: Nick ben jones finds a way to get him in
Speaker 6: the lineup. A lot and then down the stretch with all,
Speaker 6: The injuries james has been in there pretty much every
Speaker 6: game and he's really. Played well and, you know you, Mentioned.
Speaker 6: Something dick he's played very little, first base but he
Speaker 6: looks like a natural. Over there the way he the
Speaker 6: way he feeds the pitcher on, the ball hit on the,
Speaker 6: right side just, his uh his poise and defensive skills over.
Speaker 6: There there.
Speaker 2: It's, depressio well it's just a, great athlete, You KNOW like,
Speaker 2: I said i, can run, can throw, can hit and uh.
Speaker 6: He could pitch a little bit and we.
Speaker 2: Can pitch yeah. When Needed, h yeah let's talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about, the pitching which is which is, Your Alleyway.
Speaker 2: BEN cleaver i guess it's not a surprise that he's pitching.
Speaker 2: This well, but again just, a sophomore although toward the
Speaker 2: end of last year he looked like anything but. A
Speaker 2: freshman and It's, interesting keith and that he's got a,
Speaker 2: good fastball not a, great fastball but when you mix
Speaker 2: in that big curveball of his and the way That
Speaker 2: That dan roselle calls, those pitches The way, cleaver executes
Speaker 2: it's so much fun to watch, him work. Isn't it it.
Speaker 6: Really is and you've heard me say this before that
Speaker 6: he reminds me a Lot of Scott, down yes his
Speaker 6: competitiveness and.
Speaker 8: His.
Speaker 6: Curveball uh and he's, you know he's a little, bit
Speaker 6: cockey which, Is okay so he he he's really good.
Speaker 6: Out there and that's that even though his he had a,
Speaker 6: good fastball but it's not it's, not great but that
Speaker 6: big hammer that he throws makes his fastball look so.
Speaker 6: Much quicker plus he's one of those guys that gets
Speaker 6: he gets great spin on, his fastball so he can
Speaker 6: pitch inside the, right handers and he could pitch up
Speaker 6: in the zone more than most pitchers and be. Very
Speaker 6: EFFECTIVE and i would say his eighty nine to ninety
Speaker 6: mile for our fastball to the hitter probably looks ninety.
Speaker 2: Ninety, three, yeah yeah especially because of the way his
Speaker 2: bender comes in there at times in the. Mid, SEVENTIES yeah,
Speaker 2: i mean you talk about setting, up hitters and there's
Speaker 2: a reason he's called The, slim reaper not the biggest
Speaker 2: guy in. The world but he told us, about It
Speaker 2: and nick has talked about this About how cleaver stayed
Speaker 2: in basically did not play summer, league ball just wanted
Speaker 2: to work on, his body added some good weight and
Speaker 2: muscle and if he can, add, more coach can he
Speaker 2: add much more to his fastball in terms? Of velocity do?
Speaker 6: YOU think i think. He can, YOU know i don't
Speaker 6: think there's going to be a, tremendous LEAP but i
Speaker 6: think there's going to be a good enough leap that
Speaker 6: will really get the interest of the. Professional SCOUTS and
Speaker 6: i think his, you know, his height his his, arm
Speaker 6: motion his all the. Other things his breaking ball, he's developing,
Speaker 6: you know change up and slider a. Little. BIT now
Speaker 6: i think all that put together puts him in a
Speaker 6: great position to get a chance to play. Pro ball
Speaker 6: and he has become one of the best lefties In The,
Speaker 6: southeastern conference which is the best league in. The country
Speaker 6: so he's doing he's getting the job done at a. High,
Speaker 6: level well.
Speaker 2: You Mentioned, scott downs who is now the head Coach
Speaker 2: at Election, and catholic and of course she had a
Speaker 2: long career, left. Handed right but he was always in
Speaker 2: demand because he knew what he was, doing obviously and
Speaker 2: he Played. GOLL lee i want to say, twelve years
Speaker 2: fourteen years in.
Speaker 6: The, LEAGUE yeah i think it was, around thirteen and
Speaker 6: he was using, different roles, you know he, started SOME
Speaker 6: but i think one year he led the he Led
Speaker 6: The national league. In appearances, you know he was a
Speaker 6: quality reliever for most of his career and it was
Speaker 6: it was fun to watch he pitching the big leagues
Speaker 6: because he carried that same confidence onto the big league
Speaker 6: now that he had In The. Southeastern CONFERENCE and i
Speaker 6: see a lot of That In.
Speaker 2: Ben. Cleeveran yeah downs in seven eighty one Appearances, for
Speaker 2: toronto and, you're right, he led, he led, you know,
Speaker 2: yeah exactly and played for seven. DIFFERENT teams, i mean
Speaker 2: if you have a pulse and you're, left handed you got,
Speaker 2: a shot and you know teams that needed. A lefty
Speaker 2: let's Go Get. Scott downs we'll take, a break come
Speaker 2: back and talk more Baseball With keith madison in just
Speaker 2: a minute here on SIX. Thirty wlap. Welcome back we're
Speaker 2: Talking With. Keith madison he worked radio Side With, darren
Speaker 2: Headrick the Hall of fame coach who was alongside for
Speaker 2: the Sweep. Of Oklahoma Now keith kentucky Goes. To vanderbilt
Speaker 2: never easy to win. DOWN there i think if you,
Speaker 2: win one you're in. GREAT shape i think they're okay
Speaker 2: Now the wildcats in terms OF, the ncaa everybody's IN.
Speaker 2: The sec but tell me a little Bit about. Vanderbilt's
Speaker 2: program you knocked heads, with him you recruited, against them
Speaker 2: you played against them when you were coaching for the.
Speaker 2: Longest Time tim corbin came along and they were able
Speaker 2: to make some moves with grant money and things like
Speaker 2: that and built a. Great program but it's been Interesting
Speaker 2: watching vanderbilt become a power In The, southeastern conference? Hasn't
Speaker 2: it it.
Speaker 6: Really. Has uh, You Know tim corbin came on the
Speaker 6: scene at the end of. My career we compete against
Speaker 6: each other a few years. And uh and then before
Speaker 6: that he, was uh he was an assistant Coach at
Speaker 6: clemson under The Legendary. Jack leggatt, But Uh, tim corbyn,
Speaker 6: you know people talk about the. Grant money they were
Speaker 6: able to. Get it. That's true they, they had they
Speaker 6: had somewhat of an advantage on other schools because of
Speaker 6: their academic grants and and and. All That But Yim
Speaker 6: kim corbyn is a very smart. Baseball coach he's a
Speaker 6: very he's a, very bright very. Competitive, guy uh he's
Speaker 6: he's a. Great leader, he's uh HE'S what i call
Speaker 6: a lifetime learner when we go to baseball clinics, and
Speaker 6: uh he's always sitting on the right on the on the,
Speaker 6: front road taking notes when when other. Coaches speak and,
Speaker 6: you know most coaches that have reached, his status they
Speaker 6: don't even show up for. The clinics, but he, you
Speaker 6: know he's. In there he's in there just learning. And growing,
Speaker 6: and uh he's a he's a leader of young men
Speaker 6: and very Similar To. Nick minjel you know that they
Speaker 6: both have great. Leadership SKILLS and I Respect tim corbyn
Speaker 6: a lot because the way he's built the Program of
Speaker 6: batterbelt because they were, you know they're there and it
Speaker 6: wasn't it was no Fault Of roy muburn and The other.
Speaker 6: Vanderbilt coaches but at, you know Back Before, tim corbyn
Speaker 6: they didn't utilize the grant money like, they DID and
Speaker 6: i think it Was, just tim, you know being smart
Speaker 6: and knowing how to work the system within. The university
Speaker 6: and and then then, you Know coach muburn had that.
Speaker 6: Great facility he, orchestrated That and tim. Inherited that, but
Speaker 6: man what a great job, he's uh, you know he
Speaker 6: Definitely put vanderbilt on the map. Of baseball two, national
Speaker 6: championships and they're good. This year they're, they're uh, you
Speaker 6: know they're one of those, teams, that uh they're they're
Speaker 6: they're one of probably eight or ten teams that From
Speaker 6: The southeastern conference that could win the national championships. This
Speaker 6: year they're.
Speaker 2: Sneaky good they're. SNEAKY good a few minutes Left With.
Speaker 2: KEITH madison i did want to ask you the last
Speaker 2: time YOU and i chatted on, The, show uh your
Speaker 2: book had just, Come out Coaching, With purpose the game
Speaker 2: plan that helps coaches build winners on and off. The field, Since,
Speaker 2: then keith what's been the reaction from from guys in
Speaker 2: your profession now and former as coaches and just.
Speaker 6: In, general yeah it's been really a lot. Of FUN
Speaker 6: and i really set aside quite a bit of time
Speaker 6: last year in writing, that book AND and i tried
Speaker 6: to use a lot of stories, that uh you know that,
Speaker 6: that occurred things that occurred during, my career good, and
Speaker 6: bad learning from my mistakes and those kinds. Of Things
Speaker 6: but I've just i've been excited about. THE response i
Speaker 6: had a coach From the atlanta area called me the day, And,
Speaker 6: said hey one of my assistant coaches read, your BOOK
Speaker 6: and i want to buy twenty five and give out
Speaker 6: to my. Coaching FRIENDS and. I get i've had that
Speaker 6: happen a. Few times. It's overwhelming, it's like wait, a
Speaker 6: minute you want to about twenty? Five books and so it's,
Speaker 6: been great and it's it's almost inspired me to write,
Speaker 6: another BOOK but i haven't quite got. There yet so
Speaker 6: it's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of, work, hey yeah you're one of those people who's
Speaker 2: learned that it's it's not much fun, to write but
Speaker 2: it's fun TO say i. Have, written yeah once.
Speaker 6: It's, over man it takes a lot. Of TIME and
Speaker 6: i had to get a lot of help BECAUSE and
Speaker 6: i gotten from, my wife who's A former, english teacher
Speaker 6: and and my, Youngest, son tyler who Was an. English
Speaker 6: major so they helped me a, lot because as, You
Speaker 6: know I'm, not shakespeare but.
Speaker 2: Not yet.
Speaker 6: Not yet at the, SAME time i just have been
Speaker 6: blessed with a lot of life experiences and and and
Speaker 6: observation in the world, of leadership AND and i think
Speaker 6: coaches and leaders can can gain value from the Book because,
Speaker 6: i'm brilliant JUST because I think i'm a guy that learned.
Speaker 6: From mistakes AND also i could, Figure, out hey, this
Speaker 6: Work and i'm going to keep. Doing it, and uh
Speaker 6: and it's it's a lot, about, communication uh with, your
Speaker 6: players and connecting with your players and believing in. Your.
Speaker 6: Players UH so i appreciate you bringing up it was
Speaker 6: it's been a.
Speaker 2: Fun, project well, YOU know i see comments on. The
Speaker 2: internet you can Go to amazon and buy. The book
Speaker 2: you can also get it through. Your WEBSITE am i
Speaker 2: right at The Coach keith madison. Dot com, AND uh
Speaker 2: i Just remember coach many years ago when A documentary
Speaker 2: i did popped Up. On amazon, you're, LIKE hey i,
Speaker 2: did that, You, know yeah that's. Pretty, cool, yeah yeah
Speaker 2: it's it's. Pretty cool so, but yeah, you're right it's it's.
Speaker 2: IT'S work, I mean i'm trying to bang a book
Speaker 2: together myself and just creating the time and making yourself
Speaker 2: sit down and.
Speaker 3: Do.
Speaker 2: It uh sometimes it's easy sometimes it's, a chore but
Speaker 2: it's always fun to go back. And again like, you
Speaker 2: said learn from. Your mistakes you probably learn more from
Speaker 2: them than you do. Your successes, and uh that's A
Speaker 2: topic i want to get into the. Next time i've
Speaker 2: got You and Doug and darren here in. The garage
Speaker 2: we haven't Had the chain gang together in the garage in,
Speaker 2: a while so we need to.
Speaker 6: Do that we need to do that. For Sure, AND
Speaker 6: dick I would i would encourage you to write a
Speaker 6: book because the people that you know and the experiences.
Speaker 6: YOU'VE had, i mean you've told me one hundred stories
Speaker 6: over the past few years that were fascinating, and interesting
Speaker 6: and you've just been a guy that you've been around a. Little,
Speaker 6: while now you've met all the coaches and you've you've
Speaker 6: heard a lot of a lot of their stories and
Speaker 6: you've seen a lot of up. And DOWN so i
Speaker 6: agree you. DO that i think you'd, enjoy it, All, RIGHT.
Speaker 2: Coach i do, appreciate that and we will see you at. The, Ballpark,
Speaker 2: okay dick.
Speaker 6: Thank you that's going to.
Speaker 2: Do it stay tuned now For the Nick MinJe oonnes
Speaker 2: Show With darren headrick and coming up tomorrow Night At
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