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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season three,

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episode thirty one of Clips in Dip. We are back.

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We took a small hiatus as a group. Well, Adam didn't,

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he was working his ass off. I took and Will

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and I took a break. But we are back. It

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is the holiday season. We hope everyone had a good week.

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Today we're gonna be talking the Clippers beating the Nuggets

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yet again, some Tylou Coach of the Year talk, as

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well as a preview of the upcoming back to back

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because it's not a Clippers basketball week if there's not

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a back to back. We want to thank everyone for

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watching us over on YouTube dot com, Shack Clippers podcast,

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and listening wherever you find your pods. But before we

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get into all the basketball stuff, Adam, Will, how are

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you doing? Adam? What was the worst dish at your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: God? I can't even hate. I had vegan Thanksgivings and

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everything was really good and I didn't even miss the

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turkey much at all. And then somebody brought me some

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turkey the next day because they felt bad that I

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didn't get any on Thanksgiving, and I was like, damn,

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this is try as hell, why do people like turkey?

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Speaker 1: Roller coaster of a Thanksgiving? Sounds good? Though? Are you

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a vegan?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Are you going a vegan?

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Speaker 2: I'm getting there at one big dinner, you can eat

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a lot of corn bread.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Will, How are you doing? We had Thanksgiving together,

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so I'm not going to ask you what the worst

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dish was because you cooked most of it and it

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was all delicious. Yeah, I'm I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Great Thanksgiving, great little break, and I mean the benefit

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of some great Clippers basketball all things considered.

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Speaker 1: Who abso fricking lutely? As I mentioned, if you've been

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living under a rock, you miss that. The Clippers beat

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the Nuggets again one TWI Norm was back. I know

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we don't usually do like full recapture anything of games,

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but this was a great game. I love watching the

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Nuggets lose add into it. It brings me great joy. Adam,

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how was the vibe on the radio? There was a

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lot of things in this game that I think, to

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me make it the best win of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was because I expected to get

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their best shot from the Denver Nuggets, who already had

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their bad loss where they got blown out at home

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by the New York Knicks. So Mike Malone really had

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their attention, and they had three days off and they

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got Aaron Gordon back. I know he was on a

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minish restriction and it looked like at times the Clippers

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were testing him and actually going at him and making

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him have to work to see where he was at defensively.

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That is a really good team. They just beat twice.

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They've done that already with the Golden State Warriors, they

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beat them twice. They've beaten Denver twice. So there's really

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nothing you can complain about too much with their record,

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with the being thirteen to nine, it's not inflated by

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them just beating up on bad teams. In fact, they

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lost to the Portland trail Blazers. I saw them. So

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it is a good time in Clipper Nation. Everybody seems

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to be in a very celebratory mood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, things of flip flops since that loss to the Timberwolves.

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People were freaking out. Not forty eight hours before they

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beat the Nuggets. Will were you as hyped on this

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Nuggets win as Adam and I are? Are you feeling?

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Because I guess I think this is one of the

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big best ones of the season because it has solidified

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like what Adam said, right, we're not beating shit teams,

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We're not playing the pison, you know, like that kind

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of stuff, Like they're beating really good teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you couldn't be

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pleased with this win, and especially you know, we've talked,

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we've talked so much this year about how kind of

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matchup dependent this team is, with how sort of you know,

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thin they are from a death perspective, and this is

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a matchup that I would especially with Gordon back in

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the lineup, that I would say is a pretty difficult

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matchup size wise for this Clipper team, and they've gotten

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the best of them two times. Obviously, the regular season

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is one thing, Denver Nuggets being a little bit of

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their own kind of slump, a little bit of malaise

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going on right now, so that's that's something to consider

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as well. But you can't take anything away from this

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Clippers team with these two really quality wins. And you

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mentioned the wins over the over the Warriors too, Like

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this team is showing up for big games and they're

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also showing up for the most part even in these

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lesser games. While I know we haven't always gotten the

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results that we wanted, especially during that sort of like

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homestand losing losing scratch where it took you know, four

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losses into it into it Dom to finally get a win.

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But you know, like aside from that, this team is

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really competing at a level that I don't I think

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we saw for portions last year. I just don't feel

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like we were seeing the same sort of sustained focus

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and execution on this level. And it is still early

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in the season, but it's great to see. There's no

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way that you can't feel good about this Clippers team

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right now.

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Speaker 1: I heard there's a great quote that Andrew Greive said,

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during the two wine to three era was there was

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always something, you know what I mean. It was always

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like there was Kawhi out, or there was like some

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rumblings of playing time stuff in the locker room. There's

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not always something this year. This team is here to

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just deal with what's on the court, play the game

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and do kind of the little things that you know,

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think guys like JVG help and stuff like that. I

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don't know which I'm more excited about from that win

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against the Nuggets. It was James Harden who had an

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efficient night, which we love James Harden. Efficiency has not

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been the name of the game so far this year.

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Or I know what, maybe Adam was most excited about

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the Jordan Miller statement performance. Maybe you mentioned how they

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were going at Aaron Gordon. He went right at Aaron

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Gordon and got a bucket. He does things that the

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Clippers need, like get easy buckets, get to the foul line.

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There is no Kevin Porter Junior tomorrow in the game

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against the Blazers, so we are going to see more

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Jordan Miller. But are we getting close to like a

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rotation controversy. I know that the Jordan Miller hive has

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already assumed there was a rotation controversy, but after this

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recent stretch, it seems logical, right, Like.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I think there might not be is because,

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first of all, Bones still isn't playing, and Coach Sleu

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wants to have a legit, more seasoned ball handler.

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Speaker 1: Out there, real point guard.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's how you've used Kpja and I

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get it.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I also just think you can get by with Terrence Man,

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with Chris Dunn and Jordan Miller, and we saw that

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yesterday with guys like that bringing the basketball up because

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Harden's gonna play thirty five minutes a night, right, it

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probably is maybe somewhat matchup dependent, but they got away

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with it against the Denver Nuggets. And I don't know,

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I Jordan Miller's been so up and down. We're twenty

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five percent of the way through THEE and you know,

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I've wanted to see Jordan Miller from game one and

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if it takes KPJ being out of the rotation for

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that to happen, I'm for it. I don't think it's

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realistic though. I don't think it's happening. I don't think

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Coach Love's making that move.

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Speaker 1: Will Are you on the coach Louse not making that

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move train? Yeah? I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think it's still a little it's still maybe a

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little rash to uh to make that move, and I

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think it gets a little bit trickier to depending on

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how the rotations work out with dun being in that

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starting lineup, because there goes you know, like you know,

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it makes sense and obviously the starting lineup has been

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all the better for it.

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Speaker 1: But we sort of talked about at the time.

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Speaker 3: Even you know, I kind of like, even though it's

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not hockey rotations, I do like done having a more

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seasoned point guard kind of with that second unit. And

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now that's something you can totally mitigate depending on how

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you run the rotations. Obviously, that's that's something that you

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could plan for if you if you want to have

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Jordan Miller out there a little bit more just staggering

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those guards, especially with no back. If he, you know,

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continues to operate at this type of efficiency, you can

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probably get away with staggering the guards a little bit

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more and getting getting Jordan Miller next to a you know,

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a more prototypical kind of point guard, if that's if

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that's the hold up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the point guard thing is kind of valid from

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Tyler a little bit. We've seen what this team what

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you know, it feels like the guys who are who

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sometimes handle the ball when one of them is having

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a bad night, it feels like they're all kind of

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having a bad night, you know what I mean, Like

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it's like contagious among the guys who have to try

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and initiate the offense, and they are kind of different.

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They are different players, right, Like Jordan Miller does do

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things differently. Tyler said he wants to challenge Jordan Miller

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defensively to be good every night. And Law Murray, who

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posted a bunch of great uh Jordan Miller content today

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over on his Twitter, was talking about like they wanted

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to be aggressive on defense, they wanted not to foul

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and stuff like that. That is the hardest thing to

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me that a rookie who's not necessarily a defensive guy

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is asked to do. Right, Hey, play really aggressive defense

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without fouling during kind of like your initiation into this

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lineup for a team that expects you, and rightfully so

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based on how good they've been defensively to kind of

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be a dickhead on defense. Like, so that's the biggest

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hurtle right now is his defense. It's not like KPJ

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was a turnstile. If KPJ was very bad at defense,

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I think we'd be having maybe a different conversation.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and Adam, I mean Adam has pointed that out.

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I mean, even with KPJ's sort of inefficiencies sometimes he's

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like bad habit of kind of stopping the ball and

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not not really looking for teammates, he has remained he

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has remained really solid on the defensive end, which is

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one of those things that will keep you in this rotation.

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Speaker 2: He's been a good rebounder too for them. I don't

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think Jordan Millner has been at all bad defensively so far.

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I think it's just it's a staple of being a

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Clipper now, like you got a played some defense out there.

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Even James Harden has been doing it much more now.

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He can get away with being the weak link because

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he's so vital to what they do offensively. It doesn't matter.

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But yeah, I don't know. I like everything we've seen

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from Jordan Miller. And he had a quick eight points

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early on in that second quarter, and they had an

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old bench lineup with him, Terrence Man, a Mere Coffee,

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Niko Batoom and Mobamba. Then they actually extended the lead

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up to eleven. But then there was maybe a seventeen

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to two run by the Denver Nuggets. And I watched

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those possessions closely, and the Clippers just missed a bunch

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of gimmes at the rim. It wasn't like their offense

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stalled out and there was a heavily flawed lineup out there,

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like a Mere Coffee was missing gimmes Terrence Man like,

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they had good looks and they just weren't getting them

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to go. I don't think there was anything to say that, Okay,

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this can't work or these lineups with his backups can't

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work out there, But it ended up being a tied

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game by the half of fifty nine. So I don't know.

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I'm all for Moore Jordan Miller, but I also get

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the logic of playing Kevin Porter junior because he is

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a more traditional playmaker and ball handler out there.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens tomorrow against a team that, as

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you mentioned, we've lost you already, so we'll see what

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happens with that. Amir and Terrence off the bench yesterday.

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It sucks that, you know, when Terrence has a good performance,

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now we kind of have to be like, yeah, maybe

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he's coming back just because of how a season is gone.

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But him and a Miir off the bench together. I

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don't know what the bench nickname is for these guys,

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but I absolutely love this dual off the bench. It's

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such an annoying pair of guys to play against for

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second units.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mir was having a really good game too. Before

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he's okay, yep, But I love what coach flu did

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once again, he just rode the hot hand well. Terrence

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gonna stick with him down the stretch here, and it

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paid off. It paid big dividends when he had that

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offensive rebound that eventually turned into that three point where

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he hit off the pass from James Harden. But it'd

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be great for this team of if Terrence Man could

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actually strink together three or four straight games where he's

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scoring ten plus points and it's just being more confident

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out there with his shot. That'd be huge for them

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because you know, some of the guys like a mere coffee.

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While he was good from three last night, his percentages

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have dipped. Chris Dunn, He's eleven for his last forty

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one from the outside. DJ his percentages are going down

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from the outside. That regression to the mean for a

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lot of those guys that were shooting forty percent and above,

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and we knew it wasn't sustainable, it has happened. So

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if Terrence Man could all of a sudden pick up

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where some of them left off, that would be big.

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Speaker 1: What's I mean, it's almost January, right, so we got

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about what twenty nine more days and then Terrence Man's

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gonna kick it into gear and start shooting, like forty

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six percent.

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Speaker 2: Were shooting the shit out.

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Speaker 1: Of the exactly. Russ gave all the fans free chicken,

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which was great. The tribute video for Russ was good will.

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Did you watch the tribute video? How did you feel

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about Russ's performance overall? Oh, you're muted. We can't hear

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all the curse words. It was ross, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to say it was rough or it was ross.

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Speaker 1: Both one and the same. Same.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, like it's you know it, it's weird

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because we we just know a little bit more about

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like the details behind the scenes and everything. So I

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think that that taints that a little bit. But there's

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no denying that, like there were times where you know,

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he was he was massively needed in terms of like

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bringing that sort of energy and competitive spirit, and you know,

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that's kind of what I was talking about this season

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is like it it doesn't seem like there's the same

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need for that, Like there's uh, this like this team's

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version of something always happens is like, let's just make

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it work. Like you know, they're they're constantly you know,

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they're constantly down a guy all season and yeah and

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then Nor and then Nor being out of the lineup,

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and like, you know, there's no excuses. These these guys

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are figuring it out. It's not always pretty, but they

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have found ways to make it work. And I think that,

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you know, I think that.

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Speaker 1: In some ways.

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Speaker 3: In I don't necessarily want to say addition by subtraction,

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but when you remove a very vocal presence from the

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locker room, sometimes like it can give other people a voice,

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and it can it can allow other people to kind

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of to kind of, you know, fill out that need

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and fill out that thing. And I do think, you know,

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like when they're not you know, when you're you're not

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worried about aggravating the the m v P, the Hall

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of Famer in the room. I do think that some

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really positive things can come from really any level of

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the roster.

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Speaker 1: Anybody on this roster, I.

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Speaker 3: Would be surprised if they didn't feel like they had

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a voice that was heard in this locker room.

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Speaker 1: I like that last part a lot about how everyone

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can kind of feel like they have a voice and

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something like that, because it is right like last year

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and even in the Pat bevyears, there was one guy

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who was the energy guy. Right like, it was like, Russ,

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we need you to come in, grab some rebounds, sprint

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up and down the court, maybe hit some threes. That'd

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be awesome. We just need some energy. Now that's actually

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dispersed among everybody on the team, and it's nice that

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it's actually working.

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Speaker 2: And it's not a ratic, out of control energy that

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is typically a net negative. Russ, by the way, in

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two games against the Clippers this season, three for nineteen.

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Speaker 1: He's helping us out. I appreciate that. I think that's

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a good guy. Russ moved. I love that he gave

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the fans free chicken. He should have just said he

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did that on purpose. I do think a bunch of

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good Oh yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's not and what he did yere for you guys,

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so I thought I'd help you out too.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. It's just a good move. All you have to

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do is in the pres conference say don't say I

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never gave you nothing. Yeah, peace, and then everyone loves

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you for the most part.

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Speaker 2: Is it a major relief Just having two massive egos

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off the team with Russ and Paul George.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there's and I think I think on multiple levels,

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you know, like I talked about like player to player

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relations and people's voices being heard in the locker room.

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It also I think alleviates stress from the front office

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and the coaching staff because I think that there's a

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lot less input going on as to how things are

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going to be run on the floor, what type of

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acquisitions this team needs to make, Like it feels like

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this team, you know, I think I feel like the

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thing we've been saying all season is they committed to

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this move in the off season and there's actually been

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a through line of continuity where they're able to do

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that because there's not like there's not these extraneous voices saying,

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actually it should be this way, or I think it

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needs to be this way, or I need to play

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with someone who's gonna facilitate things this way and who knows,

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you know, like maybe the balance will will shift a

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little bit when is.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get a big ego.

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Speaker 3: But but I think when things are going so well,

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if you're a you know, if you're an All Star,

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if you're a Hall of Famer who's been out of

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the lineup while the team is doing this good. I

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think you're a lot more inclined to be like, Okay,

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I'm just gonna settle in and see how see how

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these things are going. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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read the room and go from there versus you know,

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coming in kind of guns of blazing the man.

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Speaker 1: The front office part, it just gives me flashbacks to

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that before, how they got Russ of Lawrence Frank giving

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a quote saying exactly what they wanted, and then tylu

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and Paul George just being like, no, actually we would

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like this one specific guy and then we go and

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get him and it's just like shit, that didn't really

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work out on any level on an on court level,

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and then to Will's point, to an off court level.

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Speaker 3: Like Adam, and it just takes players from themselves, it

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really does. Like the game is just it it's a

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lot different. And I realized that you had like they

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have so much. They've forgotten more ball knowledge than I

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will ever know. But it's just it's a it's a

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completely different ball game from when you're sitting in the

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driver's seat to what's actually like the whole bird's eye

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view of what's happening on the court driver's.

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Speaker 1: Seat gives me PTSD. I can't even deal with that phrasing.

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Thank god that PJ. Tucker doesn't have more pull in

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the lineup, because.

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Speaker 2: I forgot three massive egos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've been down. We've been down two guys

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all year, like cause again, PJ Tucker is an empty

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roster spot like PJ. Tucker's is taking up faith. All right,

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final thoughts on the Clippers beating the Nuggets again before

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we get into the next segment. Anything that you fellas

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would like to share.

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Speaker 2: They've had a trend recently going back to the Minnesota

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game where not going back to the Washington game because

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they never were down, but uh, they they've gotten down

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double digits and immediately have responded. It happened twice against Minnesota,

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and then in that third quarter they got down by

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ten against Denver and Norm came out and hit three

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three pointers within like a three minute stretch, and James

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Harden hit two and they went from being down ten

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all of a sudden in a game they were up

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by eleven and in the first half to being up

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by two, and that big two point shot the little

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MIDI fade away from Terrence Man at the end of

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the third quarter put him up ninety two to ninety

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the same score that they had total in the game

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against Minnesota, ninety two points they had at the end

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of the third quarter against Denver. But I just loved

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the response they had when they really faced some adversity

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and it looked like, well, Denver's about to pull away,

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they might get up fifteen to twenty now, and Norman

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just said, nope, I don't want to knock down these

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threes in your face. And he went five of eight

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from the outside. So're just awesome to see.

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Speaker 1: No pal back, yeah, backlk. It never left well. Any

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final thoughts on this game. Zoo had a rough outing, and.

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Speaker 3: I mean the field goal percentage overall not the most efficient,

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and I don't expect us to win many games where

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like the rebound advantage is so slim. I think we

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I think we won the day by like three total rebounds.

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Not great floor efficiency, but we took nearly double the

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amount of threes that Denver took. So great great stuff there,

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great stuff there. We found a way to make it work.

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Speaker 1: That is all the Clippers have been doing, and it's

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confused me so much as someone who's watched this team

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constantly find ways to make things not work. It's very refreshing.

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Coming up, we're gonna be talking ty Lu as the

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coach of the Year. If you're listening to us on

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in to Clips and Dip your

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favorite podcast that's you know that has to do with

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the Clippers. We talked a little bit about the clippers

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great win over Denver, and you know, something that we've

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talked about certainly but maybe not enough is Tylu and

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the job that he's been doing all season and Charles

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you're pegging him.

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Speaker 1: As a sort of dark dark horse Coach of the

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Year candidate. I think as of right now, Monday December second, five,

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three pm on the West Coast, Tylu, what's going on

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in Cleveland. Is like, there's the guys ahead of him

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in the Coach of the Year ladder right now, he's

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currently plus twenty two hundred twin Coach of the Year.

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So Vegas doesn't exactly believe in you're saying to put

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that in, Yeah, Vegas is not believing in the Clippers

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to sustain this, but he's behind Kenny Atkinson, e Ma Kerr,

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Missoula and mostly who are all doing a great job.

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I think Tyleru is doing I don't know if more

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is the right word, because again, the wins aren't necessarily

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there compared to some of those other guys in that thing.

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Tyler's doing as much with less than these other guys,

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and there's no disrespect to these other coaches. I think

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right now Tyleru has to be Coach of the Year.

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There's no Kawhi again, empty roster spot from VJ. Tucker.

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They have the team believing in themselves and in the

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defense and in getting rebounds, which we've all talked about

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is kind of being the most surprising thing from the

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Slippers team. They were pegged to be a very bad

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rebounding team, but you look at their stats, it's just

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a defensive juggernaut right now, like they're not good at offense.

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I'm not wanting to think it seems like that's not

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a high scoring team, but to me, that marks how

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good of a job Tyler has done in instilling the

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cists terms of JVG is helping with and making guys

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believe that what they do matters. Maybe put the bat

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on plus two twenty. I don't know if it's six.

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I don't know if we're going to continue this win

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percentage of the whole season. But I have loved Tylo's

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year so far, and I think it would be difficult

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to find people who rationally have disagreements to that.

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Speaker 2: I don't rationally disagree, okay, but irrationally.

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Speaker 1: I want to say that light off the handle.

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Speaker 2: I think the JVG factor is so big that he

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will be overlooked in a lot of ways for the

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little things he has done with I remember the game

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against Phoenix where they blew that twenty plus point lead

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and he was calling all the right timeouts to try

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to stop the runs. They're down, they're only up seventeen now,

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and he's calling a timeout. I think the sense of

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urgency has been awesome from him, but I do think,

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and you you guys, tell me what your perception is

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of Jeff Van Gundy's role, But I think we're talking

475
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,920
about a true defensive coordinator. And if the biggest reason

476
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,160
why either thirteen and nine is because having a top

477
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,519
five defense, and the biggest reason for that is because

478
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:23,519
Jeff Van Gundy, I think there's a case to be

479
00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:26,839
made that those other guys are still ahead of Coach

480
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,960
lou But I'm not trying to make that case. I'll

481
00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:31,559
just say it.

482
00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: I can see the argument if it's also funny because

483
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,920
like if Jeff Van Gundy wasn't Jeff Van Gundy, none

484
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,519
of there would you know what I mean, Like if

485
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:43,680
it was just an up and coming, defensive minded assistant

486
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,960
coach and not a guy who has like media clout,

487
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:50,480
Like I get your.

488
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,519
Speaker 2: Point, because he has implemented a completely different system. They say, yes,

489
00:24:55,599 --> 00:25:00,759
they're doing things completely differently. Dan Craig the former DC,

490
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,359
and Jeff Van Gundy took that role and we kind

491
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,880
of put it on Dan Craig when he was here

492
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,359
that he was the defensive specialist, and I think the

493
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,720
same thing is happening. And then some with JBG. You

494
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:21,200
mentioned though his big personality and media presence. He doesn't

495
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:29,359
do the halftime assistant coach reporter interview. That's kind of interesting.

496
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,359
It's always Brian Shaw.

497
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: You probably hated doing it.

498
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like he doesn't want much of the attention.

499
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,200
Jeff van Gundy, like he just wants to coach and

500
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:45,440
be a darkroom guy and come up with stuff schematically defensive.

501
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: Phil will are you putting down six thousand dollars on Tyler?

502
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,519
And where are you at? No? I don't know about that.

503
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: I think like the the idea of him being overshadowed

504
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:05,000
is a very very real concern. It's also just I

505
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:06,880
don't know, it's it's tough though, just because of how

506
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,640
they've overachieved expectations.

507
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,319
Speaker 1: One thing I.

508
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,519
Speaker 3: Feel like though, with the with the Coach of the

509
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,359
Year award, it's generally kind of like a year behind,

510
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,599
you know what I mean. I feel like the Coach

511
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:18,240
of the Year doesn't really get it maybe in the

512
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:19,839
year that they deserved it, and they get it the

513
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:20,799
following year so I.

514
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: Can be fired. Yeah, so I could.

515
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:23,279
Speaker 2: I could.

516
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: I could see I could.

517
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: See Missoula grabbing it this year, since I think he

518
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,519
finished like fourth in votes last year because of how

519
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,759
great Daniel was and and everything I may I would

520
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,599
take out of the thing he's They're not going to

521
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,079
give it to him.

522
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: Kerr is interesting, Atkinson is.

523
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: That's a really interesting one depending on how the rest

524
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:48,319
of this this year pans out. But that's that's that's

525
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:55,240
a really interesting one. And Jamal Mosley, I mean like that,

526
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,119
that's a really.

527
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: Interesting one too. I don't know.

528
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,279
Speaker 3: So there's just a lot of really deserving candidates this year,

529
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,000
So I think, yeah, I think it's I think it'd

530
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,279
be really difficult for him. It just depends on how

531
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,880
much stock voters put into like the over like the

532
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,720
over achievement. And I think a lot of that sort

533
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,160
of like goodwill and over the and uh overachievement kind

534
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,119
of goes out the window when Koi returns, you know

535
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:18,680
what I mean.

536
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: Because then if the Clippers are great.

537
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,279
Speaker 3: You know, if the Clippers are out of the play

538
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,680
in and maybe as high as say a four or

539
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:27,359
five seed, it's kind of expected at that point, you

540
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,039
know what I mean. It's not like, oh Wow, what

541
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240
a surprise. They really they really did it to him.

542
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,480
I think that, you know, there is a there's a

543
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:37,319
very real recency bias obviously in how these things are determined.

544
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,200
So I think he should definitely be in the conversation.

545
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:43,640
There's certainly a few people ahead of him though, where

546
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,079
it's kind of like, yeah, I mean, they're they're really deserving.

547
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,640
I don't, you know, I don't know what else to say.

548
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,039
Speaker 2: I think if if Cleveland finishes top two, it's probably

549
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,559
Kenny Atkinson easily.

550
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I think it's well deserved.

551
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially after the raw deal that he got after

552
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,759
turning around that NETS team.

553
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

554
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,599
Speaker 3: You know, he's a guy who I feel like kind

555
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,039
of got kind of got dumped on, kind of got like,

556
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,279
you know, he was like flotsam in the in the

557
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,240
league for a little bit, for no real reason.

558
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: Uh.

559
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: And now he's got and now he's got another opportunity,

560
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,359
and I think it'd be I think it'd be great.

561
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: And what he's done, what he's done with that team

562
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:19,000
is uh is impressive.

563
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:22,519
Speaker 2: I also think fair or unfair And I'm not on

564
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,200
board with this because I've talked about the little things

565
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,359
that coach Lou has done, like the timeout stuff with

566
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,799
him has been incredible this season. It's also like he's

567
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:34,559
like eleven and five and coaches challenges. I think he

568
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,200
might be best in the league there. But uh, I

569
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,680
think some people give credit to JVG for all the defense,

570
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,519
and then those same people give credit to James Harden

571
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,920
for the offense. So then where does that leave coach

572
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,359
Lou And I don't think this is accurate. I just

573
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,519
think there is a perception out there.

574
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I don't think you're wrong about that,

575
00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:00,599
because it is all this praise being heaped not on

576
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,240
the head coach, but to me, that's the mark of

577
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,160
a great head coach. Right, You're like, they don't give

578
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,920
me any credit. I'm here, everyone in the building knows

579
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,799
what is happening.

580
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,119
Speaker 2: I think he's been great rotation. But okay, none of

581
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,960
those two things account for rotations though, Right, defense is

582
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,039
and how good James Harden is, that's not He's been

583
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,039
awesome with rotations for the most part.

584
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really can't think of like I've just been

585
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,319
beaten into submission by being fine with four guard lineups

586
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:31,960
and three guard lineups because from the Tiler ten years

587
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,240
so far, but they've been solid and.

588
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: This this would be different if it wasn't working, you

589
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:37,200
know what I mean?

590
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,359
Speaker 1: John Wall, Yeah, there's obviously a lot.

591
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: There's a lot less than nitpick when things are going well,

592
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,599
and who knows, maybe, you know, maybe our feelings changed

593
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,319
should things take a turn for the worst. But no,

594
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,960
right now, he's done an incredible job. And I think

595
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,279
though it is you know, I talked about last season

596
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:57,680
being one of his hardest years to coach. This year,

597
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680
his hand is so often forced that I do think

598
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,599
that he's obviously doing a lot. He's you know, like

599
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,039
I said, he is maximizing the returns for what he

600
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:08,799
has to work with. But at the same time, it's

601
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,680
like a little bit there's a little bit less of

602
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,480
a Sophie's choice going kind of going on, if that

603
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:13,000
makes sense.

604
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,039
Speaker 2: And specifically with two moves he made a lot of

605
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:19,920
people felt like you should just lean into defense with

606
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,079
the starting lineup, and he said, no, I'm going with

607
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:26,200
Norman Powell. That has worked brilliantly. And then he went

608
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,079
away from Terrence Man not after ten games, but after

609
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920
eleven games. I think it was when he was struggling,

610
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:35,319
even though that was the incumbent, and he brought in

611
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,039
Chris Dunn. He has made some great moves.

612
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,839
Speaker 1: And he managed that move well from a off the

613
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,599
court perspective because Terrence is playing good off the bench

614
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,000
and guys are still believing in their role and stuff

615
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,079
like that. Yeah, the buy in need to have a

616
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:52,720
player like Terrence, but yeah.

617
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: The buy in has been consistently otherworldly. Like I tell

618
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:00,680
Hell's to put it, like, guys every night are getting

619
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:04,400
up for games, and even though their offense consistently has

620
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,680
been bottom ten, it has not affected their defense at all.

621
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,079
And that's something I would have expected by this point.

622
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,839
I would have thought their offense would hurt their defense

623
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,880
at some point they wouldn't be able to hang around

624
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,079
top five defensively.

625
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be like yeah, like you

626
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,880
said around the twenty game mark, when it was like

627
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,720
oh shit, like here now we're kind of uh, you know,

628
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:30,440
reap from what we're sewing here. Other Clipper award ideas, Tyler,

629
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,359
but they.

630
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,119
Speaker 2: Should have effing fouled Minnesota. Yes, I agree with that,

631
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,279
but that wasn't easy.

632
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: Tylu brought up Norm Powell being considered for most Improved Player.

633
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,200
I'm not mad at that. If this continues, the volume

634
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,480
and of what Norm has done, like I think this

635
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:53,680
is this, This is the most realistic season ending award

636
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,559
for a Clipper to win, or he split votes with Zoo.

637
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,960
If Zoo continues to crush about the best, the fan

638
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,759
vote kind of screws it. But like, he.

639
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,279
Speaker 3: Deserves an All Star appearance this year, and I don't

640
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:10,400
think it's gonna happen, but he's very deserving of it.

641
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: Is there a K pop fan group that we can

642
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:17,039
get to vote for Norm Powell for All Start because

643
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:20,319
that's how you gain the system right there. We need

644
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:21,759
some kind of hive.

645
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,359
Speaker 2: I got a VPN scramble that's pretty good and I

646
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:27,599
can vote from a million times perfect.

647
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,319
Speaker 1: Adam's got it. We'll write a script, but most improved

648
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,839
player seems doable for Norm if this keeps up, I

649
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,440
was right how he's gonna look after the injury. It's

650
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,559
only been one game, but he looked exactly the same.

651
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: Man he was And what did he have twenty eight

652
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:49,559
in twenty five minutes. Yes, if he ends up I

653
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,440
agree with Will, it's probably not going to happen. But

654
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,039
if he ends up anywhere near and the percentages are

655
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,480
not going to be near they are. But let's say

656
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,160
he's shooting, he could shoot forty nine percent from the field.

657
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200
But let's say he's shooting forty five percent from three

658
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,640
as the voting starts to heat up, and he's getting

659
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:13,759
twenty to twenty three points per game, and the Clippers

660
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,319
are playing well and Paul George is not, and the

661
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:23,559
Philadelphia seventy six ers l still are still down. It

662
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,400
may bring some more eyes towards the Clippers and like,

663
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,240
how is this happening? Oh, look at this guy that

664
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,759
is replacing Paul George and looks better than him at

665
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:33,759
this point of their career.

666
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,319
Speaker 1: I like that. You're you're thinking the big picture, which

667
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,079
I appreciate. Norm is not even on I'm looking at

668
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,720
SI they're you know, the odds, he's not on it.

669
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,640
Chatt Holmgren has the worst odds at plus four thousand.

670
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:59,599
Speaker 3: Where's Fronz Wagner at He is also hot on this list?

671
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so this just might be a ship list.

672
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,039
Speaker 2: Do you even know what the game format is going

673
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:06,480
to be for the All Star Game this year?

674
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,599
Speaker 3: By the way, it's gonna be anytime I see anytime

675
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:11,079
I see.

676
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,159
Speaker 1: Someone running it down, I get a headache and I say,

677
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,840
I'm just not gonna watch. Do people even care this

678
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,360
much about the Like? Who gives a shit about the

679
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,599
All Star Game this much. This isn't the issue with

680
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,639
the NBA is watching the All Star Game the.

681
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: NBA, I just know like they overthink the wrong They

682
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,639
just overthink the wrong things. Like they just they try

683
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,880
to make it seem like more complicated than it is

684
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,960
and it's appealing. It's not appealing to the average fan.

685
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: No, they don't want to watch, like, oh, they got

686
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:45,599
a cool new scoring system. Who gives us? Yeah, I'm

687
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,440
a nerd and instituting new scoring rules is for nerds.

688
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,159
Speaker 3: Go back to East versus West and it's first to

689
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,719
one hundred wins. You have to play some defense, boys.

690
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay. One last thing about Most Improved

691
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,159
Player Awards, Victor webin Yama as the betting favorite, I

692
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:05,719
think the Rookie of the Year to Most Improved Player

693
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:13,280
Poplin should be shut the fuck down. Yeah that's not so.

694
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,480
He's just gonna win the MVP the next year, Like

695
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:18,559
it's gonna go Rookie of the Year, MIP MVP. Well

696
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,920
that's not how this should work. I don't think all

697
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,880
progress is linear.

698
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,599
Speaker 2: I don't think he's even been that great so far

699
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,159
this season, Like he's getting three more points per game

700
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,320
while playing three more minutes per game, but he's kind

701
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,000
of started to turn the shooting around. I don't know.

702
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,760
That doesn't make sense to me. Normous averaging like nine

703
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,559
more points per game and for.

704
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: A team that, like the Spurs, are outperforming I think

705
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,360
what some people thought they would be doing. But the

706
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,440
Clippers are way outperforming what some people thought they were doing,

707
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,519
including the people who put the odds on wind totals

708
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:59,039
and shit like that. Right, thirty seven and a half

709
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,840
was like the thing, that's what.

710
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,119
Speaker 2: I want to Mia copa to come from the same

711
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:07,000
people that said, oh, they're going to be a bottom

712
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,679
four team in the Western Conference. Those people need to

713
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,960
be looking at why they're not and identify them and

714
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,119
vote for those players that are doing so well for

715
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:15,679
the Clippers.

716
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: Now, the real question what do the Clippers have to

717
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,960
do for James Hard to win MVP. It's finished top two,

718
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,639
which I think might be impossible despite it being our year.

719
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,039
As Will has.

720
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, okay, see.

721
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,639
Speaker 1: That would yeah, that would probably do it. That would

722
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:41,320
do that would win James Hard the MVP. Where are

723
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,840
you at on that?

724
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be impossible. Man, he got robbed one in

725
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,039
his absolute prime. There's no way he's getting this one.

726
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: Now. It's a makeup MVP. They got They do those

727
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,400
every couple of years, right, Yeah, like the Denzel training

728
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:01,559
day Oscar No, we are bad. That was our bad. Hey,

729
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:04,760
we messed this up. You get it for a movie

730
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400
that's good but not his best role.

731
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 2: Was Scorsese get Best Director for The Departed? I think, yeah, good,

732
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:13,639
which is good, but.

733
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that garbage. Not a

734
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,800
very good movie. My friend Ryan has such a great bit.

735
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,599
Uh he it went big on Twitter. But like there

736
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:30,679
was that thing in the Revenant about how Leonardo DiCaprio

737
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,679
to prepare for the role actually ate a bear's heart

738
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:35,559
and he had to do this through the movie and

739
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:37,760
my friend Ryan just said he didn't have to do that.

740
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,079
You didn't have to do that.

741
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: No, he's said in interviews. They had something prepared that

742
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,559
looked real on camera.

743
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,639
Speaker 2: It was a gummy bear's heart.

744
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,639
Speaker 1: All right. Any other and we haven't done research on this.

745
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,719
There is not an Assistant Coach of the Year award.

746
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,239
If there was, I mean, we can all assume JBG

747
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,079
would get that. Any other awards that there's Clippers players,

748
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:10,880
you guys think they could win. I don't think there

749
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,320
is not even fringe wise, no disrespectful, But that's how

750
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,679
this team is made up, right, It's a bunch of

751
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,679
guys who are annoying to play basketball.

752
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: Against most unexpectedly improved team given the loss of an

753
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,840
All Star.

754
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,199
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that is an award that the Clippers should.

755
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,679
Speaker 2: Definitely and without their number one player.

756
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,559
Speaker 1: Best recovery to Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, world's best best recovery

757
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:38,960
of the season. He would be a multiple Actually no,

758
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,360
would he technically not be a multiple time winner of

759
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:47,039
that because he unfortunately continues to get injured. I don't know.

760
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:48,760
Last year, I feel like he would have been deserving

761
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,239
of it. How much stock did you guys put into

762
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,400
the Pat Bev Kawhi Leonard text message story if you

763
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,400
missed it somehow, Patrick Beverley pir Patrick Bevery on this

764
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,360
podcast that the league is not good and that he's working,

765
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,800
they're ready for the claw and all this stuff. Did

766
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,079
it make you more excited to hear it come from

767
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,920
Patrick Beverley as opposed to Tyler which lot Murray does

768
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,559
a great job with the check marks he goes. Here's

769
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:21,360
your weekly check in on Kawhi Leonard doing everything to

770
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,119
stay healthy, you know, box jumps, all that stuff.

771
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: I put a lot more into it until the very

772
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,440
next day there was a clip of Patrick Beverly talking

773
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,480
about how Russell Westbrook always raises his game in the

774
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,840
playoffs and he's like, and he shoots like for from

775
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,039
three of the playoffs. You guys don't even know and

776
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:45,119
it's like, I know, I saw going his last five.

777
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: That's another one of those situations where I'm like, I

778
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:51,000
understand that you know more about basketball than me, Patrick Beverley,

779
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,559
but what are you seeing in the game, Like you're

780
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:55,679
seeing something that I'm not seen.

781
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: They're good missus though, bro Online. Yeah, dude, there's good

782
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,559
misses and bad misses.

783
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,599
Speaker 2: Playoff snarl is different.

784
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a completely fair point at him. So you

785
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,440
didn't get because you're the one who I saw the

786
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
clip from. You posted it with the eyes emoji.

787
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,519
Speaker 2: I know, and I felt pretty good at about it

788
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:19,480
until I saw the Russ clip from him, and I

789
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:24,000
was like, Okay, Pat's just talking about yeah whatever, He's

790
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,400
just he's just looking to get clips clipped.

791
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: Do you think he asked if he could talk about

792
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,800
it on air because Kawhi being someone who is very

793
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,159
private about his injury stuff. I wonder if there's like

794
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,000
a hey man, could you not have maybe said that

795
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:37,760
the air?

796
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: Also, how often is he sending text messages referring to

797
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,159
himself in the third person?

798
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: I would guess actually maybe a lot. I could see

799
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,440
Kawhi be I could see Kawhi being a Kawhi is

800
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:53,239
hungry kind of guy. Speaking of the third I want

801
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,119
to tell one third person story and then we'll go

802
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:57,880
to the game preview. There was an old quarterback I

803
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,039
believe went to Arkansas whose name was Ryan Mallet, kind

804
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:05,599
of like a poor man's Josh Allen, like an incredible

805
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,760
arm not incredibly good at football, but like had the tools.

806
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:13,360
There's stories of when he was going to Arkansas. He

807
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,119
would just like show up to a test with like

808
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,920
no supplies, right, so he'd need like a pencil or something,

809
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,639
and he would just announce to the class, does anybody

810
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,519
have a number two pencil for Ryan Mallet? And then

811
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:27,800
someone would give a pencil, and then he go, does

812
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,599
anyone have a scantron for Ryan Ballet? And someone just

813
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,400
give him a scantron that classes with them. I'd probably

814
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,039
start just grabbing an extra one. Yeah, I mean, why not.

815
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,679
Speaker 2: Or whatever? Well was his Wonderlick score after that?

816
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: Let's look it up.

817
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,519
Speaker 2: Actually, do you dominate score?

818
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: We do all know the wonder looks is bad twenty

819
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,920
six above average for his position. The Wonderlick also not

820
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:05,679
a score indicative of anything. Oh yeah, man, the only intelligence. Yeah,

821
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:08,159
does anyone have a scan tron for Ryan Mallett? What

822
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,880
a power move for a team that was like, okay,

823
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,760
all right, coming up, we're doing the back to back preview.

824
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,239
They got the Blazers, they got the Timberwolves. If you

825
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,760
listen on audio, get ready for another small interruption. If

826
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,760
you're watching on video, we're still here. We got ads

827
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,840
coming up, and then the back back preview in three two.

828
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: One welcome back in his clips and dip I'm at

829
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,519
a Mazon. We got Chuck Mockler and Will Updyke and

830
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,559
another back to back for the Clippers. The good news

831
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,480
is after they get done with this back to back,

832
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,519
they only have ten more remaining. Holy, I think this

833
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,639
is the sixth instance of a back to back already.

834
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they played five. They've had the leagues like

835
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,079
six hardest schedule or something like that.

836
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:52,599
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem high enough or low enough. They got

837
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:56,480
the Portland Trail Blazers, who I was podcasting earlier and

838
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,480
somebody was like, ha ha, we got Portland tomorrow, We're

839
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,880
gonna crush. It was like, h hello, they've already lost

840
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,119
to this team mat into it till and Portland's actually

841
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:11,360
had some decent wins. They've beaten Houston, they almost won

842
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,239
that game last night against Dallas. They're eight and thirteen.

843
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:16,840
You know they're not a team was just three wins

844
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,320
or something.

845
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an annoying team to play against. The bench

846
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,800
got smoked the last time we played them. Our bench

847
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,400
was very bad. But what was like the fourth game

848
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,920
of the season. Yeah, it was pretty early. The Clippers

849
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,599
do need to win by at least twenty four points

850
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,039
to have any chance of making the knockout round of

851
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:40,679
the NBA Cup. Will do you think the Clippers are

852
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:44,559
gonna win by at least twenty four points tomorrow night?

853
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,199
I mean it's not impossible. It's definitely not impossible.

854
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Improbable won by twenty five I think over Washington.

855
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the precedent has been set.

856
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: Portland just isn't that bad. Shandon Sharp didn't play in

857
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,599
the first game against the Clippers either, and they still.

858
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: Want shit he didn't. Yeah, I'm not I'm not seeing

859
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,760
that one. I'm not ready to get there. But you're

860
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,800
not ready to bet the Clippers at minus twenty three

861
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,559
and a half one of the odds same as Tyler

862
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,480
winning coach there around plus forty four hundred bucks there,

863
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,599
I mean, not a bad you know you put ten down?

864
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:26,239
Who cares?

865
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:30,159
Speaker 2: Also hard just played the entire second half of that

866
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,000
game the other night. Yeah, so there could be some

867
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:34,119
tired legs out there.

868
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Miller time, right, No, KPJ. Norm Probably I also

869
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,920
have to assume is tired. He did play, you know,

870
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,880
twenty five minutes, not a ton for this Clippers team

871
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,719
in terms of what his role really is. But I

872
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,119
think the tired legs, well, maybe see it? Do we?

873
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:51,360
We don't get him on the second end of a

874
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,000
back to back.

875
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't think either, because they played last night,

876
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,000
so they ain't playing three nights in a row.

877
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,679
Speaker 1: They should, They should start doing that. Let's just go

878
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,719
the other way with it and start making teams play

879
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,920
back to back to backs.

880
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: Minnesota gets a day off too before the Clippers play them,

881
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,280
because they're playing the Lakers. Tonight and they have a day off.

882
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,119
Then they get the Clippers.

883
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got the Wolves Wednesday. Wacky loss the

884
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,320
last time. Wacky is the word I would use. Some

885
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,239
people would maybe use infuriating. Norm's going to be back

886
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,840
for this one and that should help the three point shooting.

887
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Are we sweeping? Are we sweeping this back to back?

888
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:29,280
Am I crazy to think that? I've been and drinking

889
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,159
kool aid all weekend since the last podcast.

890
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: They have swept two back to back so far, right,

891
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,559
and one of them wasn't into it?

892
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:38,559
Speaker 1: Down back to back I believe so.

893
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,079
Speaker 2: Yes, it's pretty crazy.

894
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,119
Speaker 1: How when did they win last year? None? I don't know.

895
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,360
I'm like, yeah, sure, that sounds right. They were an

896
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,119
old ass team. Yeah, these are going to be This

897
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,639
isn't I don't know it. It's not an easy back

898
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:02,599
to back, like you said, like the Blazers aren't necessarily push.

899
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: They've been playing hard. I guess their fifth in offensive

900
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,840
rebounding percentage, which obsessed me.

901
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,079
Speaker 1: That upsets you. They have eight wins and one of

902
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:17,000
them is against the Clippers. Wow. The Jazz and Pelicans

903
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:19,559
are so bad. Sorry, I'm looking at the standings.

904
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: Why they beat Houston.

905
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,559
Speaker 1: Well they're not as bad.

906
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,199
Speaker 2: They beat Minnesota twice.

907
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have some weird wins. It's like how the

908
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,159
Wizard's two wins are against like the Calves in Boston.

909
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:42,199
Speaker 2: Portland only lost by ten. Okay, see yeah.

910
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: Basically, and we know what we're gonna get, right, like

911
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,880
we've kind of been talking about it. And the first

912
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,719
we're gonna get hopefully some hard nos defense, not annoying

913
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,760
stuff to play against. We got a hope. I mean,

914
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,960
the second game is the one that I'm obviously worried

915
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,199
the most about. I don't think anyone would would think

916
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,400
that because whatever Harden is gonna have to do because again,

917
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:01,440
not a lot of comfortable wins for the Clippers team.

918
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,679
When things go well, sometimes the fourth quarter ofers it's

919
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,960
had in the turnovers step up. So like, I think

920
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,159
we may be split just because I think second night

921
00:47:10,199 --> 00:47:14,760
of a back to back versus Minnesota is a very

922
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,840
difficult hand to be done.

923
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,199
Speaker 2: And after they lost that game in the fashion they

924
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,440
did in Minnesota, I can't believe they did not intentionally

925
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,480
foul they It was just a.

926
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:28,039
Speaker 1: Keystone Cops theme playing the entire final ninety seconds of

927
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:28,440
that game.

928
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: Zubats also made a comment postgame about how they can't

929
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,719
wait to play them again next week, which makes me

930
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,920
worried that they're completely overlooking Portland and having to play

931
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,840
them first. I hope that's not the case. It's an

932
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,199
nd season tournament game, as you mentioned, and Portland actually

933
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,119
is two to one so far in these tournament games,

934
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:52,880
so they have a chance. They have probably a better

935
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,199
chance of being a wild card team to make the

936
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,000
knockout round than the Clippers do. Yeah, that might have

937
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:01,119
them playing hardy, young team. You know, they don't have

938
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,480
much the differential.

939
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:03,639
Speaker 1: What do they gotta win it by?

940
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, Uh, probably less than the Clippers do.

941
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four. Yeah, I don't know about this one.

942
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:17,159
The NBA Cup.

943
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: I could just see a younger team caring more about

944
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,320
this that isn't competing for anything this season.

945
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,679
Speaker 1: I think you're probably right about that. Yeah, the Clippers

946
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:35,119
are right like the Clippers are. Yeah, the Blazers are

947
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:38,639
second in the group. They're at minus five point differential,

948
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,280
Clippers are at minus six, Kings are at minus twenty

949
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,639
nine to three. Not cup. Not built for the Cup,

950
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,840
some would say, despite being in the hardest division in

951
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,360
the NBA. Yeah, This one's gonna be interesting. I'm hoping

952
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:56,800
that if things don't go is how we want them

953
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,719
to the next two days, that the good will for

954
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,960
this team is not used up. Because this team we're

955
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,719
not totally far away from five hundred, you know what

956
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,480
I'm saying, Like, this team still has thin margins, so

957
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:14,320
things can swing either way. I just hope that if

958
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,360
things don't necessarily go right, we still remember what this

959
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,039
team is capable of doing, which is playing annoying defense

960
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:24,480
and just not you know, still caring Portland.

961
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,639
Speaker 2: I look this up. The last ten games they are

962
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:31,280
turning the basketball over eighteen point one times per games.

963
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,199
Speaker 1: Ooh love it.

964
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: So boys, if the Clippers bring their defense, they got

965
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,320
a great chance to get some easy buckets in transition

966
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,199
off of turnovers.

967
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: All right, now, for the most important part of this episode.

968
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,519
We haven't done one of almost a week. Will who

969
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,119
is your player of the game pick for the back

970
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:57,199
to back against the Blazers and Timberwolves back to back.

971
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,360
I'm gonna go, Chris, don get those steals, get those turnovers.

972
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:06,079
I like it.

973
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: Adam, I'm gonna say that something was born out of

974
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,920
that game from Terrence Man against.

975
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: For it I didn't put on the breakdown because I

976
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:17,880
knew it was gonna happen.

977
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,159
Speaker 2: He's about to have three good games in a row

978
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,039
because I have him as my player. Are watching this

979
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:22,920
back to back.

980
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: I like that tired legs, right, that's a guy who

981
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,480
can come and help it, help out with tired legs.

982
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:33,039
I can't believe you didn't say this, Jordan Miller. Jordan

983
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:34,639
Miller is gonna be the best player in this back

984
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:34,920
to back.

985
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, casual stuff, Oh.

986
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: Casual stuff. We need young legs. It's gonna be Jordan Miller.

987
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,039
But it's gonna be you know, I just hope we

988
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,239
see some flashes from defense for so he hasn't been bad,

989
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,920
you know what I'm saying like that, that would be nice.

990
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,039
But I think it's gonna be Jordan Miller, a much

991
00:50:53,159 --> 00:51:00,480
needed uh six to eleven points that the Clippers will need.

992
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:03,360
They'll be clutch buckets, you know, they'll be they'll be

993
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:10,440
very needed buckets. Okay. Or what if Jordan millercourse twenty

994
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:18,159
four and that's over single handedly takes the Cliffs. Yeah, yeah,

995
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,559
the Clippers are tied. Here's the scenario. The Clippers are

996
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,840
tied at one hundred points. Going into the fourth quarter,

997
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,960
Jordan Miller hasn't even stepped on the floor yet. They

998
00:51:26,039 --> 00:51:30,599
subbed Jordan Miller in Clippers run that quarter by twenty

999
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:37,039
four points, then out of the lineup. Yeah, boom, all right,

1000
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,880
so I think we got it nailed. That's great. I

1001
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,679
want to give the stat that Lammery posted because we

1002
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,599
got to show some love to the Wall, the entity

1003
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,719
that is the Clippers Wall. Visitors to into It Dome

1004
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,920
are shooting seventy two point seven from the free throw

1005
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,840
line through the first six weeks of this NBA season.

1006
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,239
That is the lowest free throw percentage for road tream

1007
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,880
teams in and Arena this season, and would be the

1008
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,960
lowest percentage in the NBA in nine seasons. So shout

1009
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,719
out to the wall that love it. Yeah, keep getting

1010
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,159
weird with it. There was a guy wearing a horse

1011
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,800
head with a mask that said I miss you Dad

1012
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,599
when Yokich was at the line, which is one of

1013
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:21,239
the weirder things I've ever seen in NBA game. But

1014
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,039
I love it. It's a college atmosphere. It's hectic. It's

1015
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:27,280
been respectful too, you know what I mean. It's not

1016
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,840
it's not gotten into Sometimes there's like some soccer changs

1017
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,639
you hear where you're like, what the fuck are y'all doing?

1018
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:36,199
So we love the wall, shout up to the wall.

1019
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: Mike Malone was upset postgame being asked about the atmosphere

1020
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,119
and the arena, and he's like, the wall didn't turn

1021
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:45,360
the ball over like we did.

1022
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:50,519
Speaker 1: Yes, it did mine? All right, anything else before we

1023
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,800
before we hit out of here? Any final thoughts? I

1024
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,800
am gonna ask them for one positive thing after we

1025
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,159
do some some promos, but other than that.

1026
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:02,679
Speaker 2: All right, back to back.

1027
00:53:03,679 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing a live after one or both

1028
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,719
of the back to back games over on YouTube dot

1029
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,400
Comsat Clippers podcast. Come hang, make sure you watch Adam

1030
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,880
on Clippers Talk. We're gonna have a fresh app out

1031
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,639
on Thursday. The Clippers gotta have a break coming up.

1032
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,599
Three days, three whole days. What the heck are we

1033
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:25,159
gonna do with all that time? So we'll have an

1034
00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:30,679
episode on Thursday. Uh and will where can people, instead

1035
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,559
of telling their coworkers what they did for Thanksgiving or

1036
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:35,480
what they're gonna do for Christmas or whatever they're going

1037
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:40,320
to be doing, divert the conversation to and tell their

1038
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,440
their coworkers to listen to us instead. Yeah, yeah, divert

1039
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:46,159
your co workers, gas light your.

1040
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 3: Coworkers, shift the conversation to clips and dip, which you

1041
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,280
can find wherever you get your podcasts. If you happen

1042
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,079
to listen over on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, you leave a

1043
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:57,719
little radio review. You can't leave comments on every podcast

1044
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,840
episode now over on Spotify as well. But the best

1045
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,119
place to get this podcast is over on YouTube dot

1046
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:08,039
com slash At Clippers podcast. But you know, however, however

1047
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,760
you enjoy this podcast whoever you guest, like your coworkers,

1048
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,559
you know what, we appreciate.

1049
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:14,559
Speaker 1: You, we really do. And we're all wearing green today,

1050
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:16,559
which was not planned. But when you're in, when you're

1051
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:19,800
some patticoat like this crew, it just happens. Adam one

1052
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,880
positive thing, and we can send these Clippers fans out

1053
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,880
to what might be the second least productive week of

1054
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,840
work of the year.

1055
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: I think the Clippers just survive the toughest month of

1056
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:35,800
the season.

1057
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: What about March.

1058
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: March, they at least have one stretch where they have

1059
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:45,960
two days off in a row. They didn't have that

1060
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:50,480
once in November, and they came out with being one

1061
00:54:50,519 --> 00:54:53,119
of seven teams I believe to get ten wins in

1062
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:57,639
the month of November while having I think the toughest

1063
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:02,519
schedule over that time, without having consecutive days off once

1064
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,880
And now we got three days off coming up Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

1065
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:12,719
and then there's a stretch where they only play three

1066
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:19,119
games in thirteen days in the month of December. Are

1067
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:19,920
you kidding me?

1068
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:22,039
Speaker 1: I want some of that.

1069
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: Might some of that get changed with the when they

1070
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:28,400
redistribute the nd season tournament games.

1071
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: It includes that, it includes that those two games, they

1072
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,920
got two games coming that aren't currently on the schedule,

1073
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:41,199
and I'm pretty sure it's like three games over thirteen

1074
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,159
days or something. Law had this yesterday. It's it's more

1075
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,920
arrest than I ever would have imagined. Yeah, for a

1076
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,159
team that sorely needs it, and I don't know, this

1077
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,679
is they weather the storm and they have a great

1078
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:59,440
opportunity to now take advantage of this December schedule.

1079
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: It almost feels a little bit like things are lining

1080
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:08,519
up for it to maybe be our you who knows

1081
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:09,880
who knows wills been.

1082
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: Saying twenty four was our year baby.

1083
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,559
Speaker 1: On the twenty twenty five, we're stepping up those steps

1084
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,400
like that lady. All right, we will be back tomorrow

1085
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,679
in an official capacity on Thursday, and yeah, as always,

1086
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:23,519
let's go clips.