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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy and I am the Cage to Night.
Speaker 3: I'm Raven Lee.
Speaker 2: And today we are going to be talking about probably
Speaker 2: one of our most widely requested topics to go on.
Speaker 2: And for the record, this has been requested by a
Speaker 2: few people, but one more than any other, our beloved,
Speaker 2: our spirit animal, the Great, the Powerful of the Samuel
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, today we are going to be talking
Speaker 2: about d Glock, dike Lock, Doc, these nuts, all the things.
Speaker 4: I'll fucking understand how to say that damn name, because
Speaker 4: like every video we've watched has said the name any
Speaker 4: different way.
Speaker 3: It's like twelve different ways to say it. Is it Diglack?
Speaker 3: Is it de Glock?
Speaker 2: You know, it might be better if either of us
Speaker 2: spoke German.
Speaker 4: But we just don't, So I'm just gonna say dii
Speaker 4: g die g No, that's the thing in Japanese, of course, kidding.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the we're allied in World War two,
Speaker 2: which is going to be the topic of the discussion
Speaker 2: today is Germany and World War two. There vonder waff,
Speaker 2: if you will, their wonder weapon, the secret thing that
Speaker 2: was not going to take much energy, much fuel, all
Speaker 2: these things, but was going to turn the tides and
Speaker 2: just in the war on one swipe.
Speaker 3: However, was there hail mary?
Speaker 4: Pretty much the ultimate right, ultimate hail mary situation? Why
Speaker 4: they did this or quote supposedly so supposedly right?
Speaker 2: Because no physical evidence of this machine slash weapon have
Speaker 2: ever been found. There are reports that blueprints were discovered
Speaker 2: whenever the soldiers made their way into the underground bunker.
Speaker 2: They found the equipment that was supposed to be hooked
Speaker 2: up to it, they found the control panels, all these things.
Speaker 2: They found blueprints, but no actual device itself, which is
Speaker 2: interesting because even just trying to do the research for
Speaker 2: this topic, just the description alone of how where it was,
Speaker 2: how it was hooked up, or whatnot is completely different
Speaker 2: each account, depending on who's actually telling the story.
Speaker 3: And then of course.
Speaker 4: There's those that like adamantly believe that this is a
Speaker 4: whole thing and you know the accounts from the books
Speaker 4: where that's exactly how it happened, and then there's people
Speaker 4: that have a more I guess, skeptical view of it.
Speaker 4: But either way, there's different ways, and I'll get into
Speaker 4: it when I don't discuss the you know, description of it,
Speaker 4: because that alone it changed like ten different times when
Speaker 4: I'm looking into it, and it's just very confusing as
Speaker 4: to what is actually what is it really like? The
Speaker 4: general idea of what it looked like is the same,
Speaker 4: but then the components was in itself is different and
Speaker 4: what it actually did. Did it kill five scientists? Did
Speaker 4: it not kill five scientists? Where are the bodies? Did
Speaker 4: it show up a place you know a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago?
Speaker 2: Was it a time machine? Was it an interdimensional jumping device?
Speaker 3: INSI gravity?
Speaker 2: What was it a flying craft? Was it a death ray?
Speaker 2: There's so many, so many different opinions on this, and
Speaker 2: none of them are any more or less credible than
Speaker 2: any other. And as a matter of fact, if you've
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Speaker 2: of things and there's a little girl laughing? Who is
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Speaker 2: Is it like a side tangent? A fun little add
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Speaker 2: is from Vanessa Torres ufologist. Okay, so you could already
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 3: Tell fun it's actually a well written article.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm not saying that in some sort
Speaker 2: of a dick or skeptic way. I'm saying like you
Speaker 2: could already tell the way this is gonna go, because,
Speaker 2: like we said earlier, depends on who you talk to.
Speaker 2: Some people believe this was a transportation machine like a
Speaker 2: teleportation some believe it was a flying craft. Some believe it.
Speaker 4: Actually this is pretty unbiased, to be honest with you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this article is pretty much like giving the information that
Speaker 4: she has on it. And I will say I will
Speaker 4: add in other points.
Speaker 3: Of view as well as we go in through this article.
Speaker 4: But no, I found this article to be really just hey,
Speaker 4: this is what we know and then and it's really
Speaker 4: well written.
Speaker 3: I can't talk.
Speaker 2: Let's check it out, shouts out to Vanessa Torres here. So,
Speaker 2: in the final desperate days of the Third Reich has
Speaker 2: Allied forces closed in from all sides. Nazi Germany's scientific
Speaker 2: and engineering teams worked feverishly on a series of advanced
Speaker 2: weapons design to reverse their failing war fortunes. The V
Speaker 2: one buzz bomb quote unquote, the V two ballistic missile, yes,
Speaker 2: the first missile had a rocket propulsion in it, and
Speaker 2: the Measure Schmidt ME two six y two jet fighter
Speaker 2: were genuine technological achievements that push the boundaries of nineteen
Speaker 2: forties engineering. Yet whispers of an even more extraordinary device
Speaker 2: have persisted for decades, a mysterious bell shaped machine known
Speaker 2: as DEGLOCKI. And also, I should give the distinction. We're
Speaker 2: going to be fucking up that pronunciation the entire episode.
Speaker 2: You're gonna hear me say a bunch of different ways.
Speaker 2: Just know we're talking about that, right. Moving on, was
Speaker 2: this alleged wonder weapon, a revolutionary anti gravity device, a
Speaker 2: time machine, or merely an elaborate hoax born from the
Speaker 2: fog of war in decades of conspiracy theories, the story
Speaker 2: of Dieglock offers a fascinating glimpse into the murky intersection
Speaker 2: of historical fact, technological speculation, and the human tendency to
Speaker 2: fill gaps in our knowledge with extraordinary possibilities. Which is fair,
Speaker 2: So let's talk about this now. The birth of a legend,
Speaker 2: the Diglock story as we know it today, emerged relatively
Speaker 2: recently in modern historical terms. In two thousand, Polish journalists
Speaker 2: and author Igor Witkowski Okay published a book titled Prauda
Speaker 2: a Wonder Waff which is in English the Truth About
Speaker 2: the Wonder Weapon, which introduced the concept of a broader
Speaker 2: or to a broader audience. With Kowski claimed that he
Speaker 2: had been shown classified transcripts from the interrogation of former
Speaker 2: SS officer Jacob Spoorrenberg might be mispronounced in the name
Speaker 2: I only speak American English by an unnamed Polish intelligence
Speaker 2: contact who had access to these secret documents. According to Witkowski,
Speaker 2: he was permitted to transcribe three documents, but not allowed
Speaker 2: to make copies. A detail that immediately raises red flags
Speaker 2: for historians, which I understand that this lack of verifiable
Speaker 2: documentation forms the first crack in the foundation of the
Speaker 2: d Glock's historical legitimacy. The story might have remained confined
Speaker 2: to Polish language obscurity had it not been for British
Speaker 2: aviation journalist Nick Cook, who bought or brought rather with
Speaker 2: Kowski's claims to the English speaking world in his two
Speaker 2: thousand and one book The Hunt for Zero Point. Cook's
Speaker 2: credentials as a former editor and respected Jane's Defense Weekly,
Speaker 2: initially Lint the story of veneer of credibility, but his
Speaker 2: work was soon criticized for embracing unsubstantiated claims without sufficient evidence.
Speaker 2: Threat quote here from a Salon reviewer Kurt Kleiner, it's
Speaker 2: a story that strains credulity. Credulity, damn. But unless we're
Speaker 2: after cheap laughs, our hope when we pick up a
Speaker 2: book like this is that the author will, against all odds,
Speaker 2: built a careful, reasonable and convincing case. Cook isn't that author.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he felt some type yeah, heath he felt some
Speaker 4: type of way about that book.
Speaker 2: Damn. I mean, maybe he's just not the best writer
Speaker 2: on our I know, maybe he was really good, but whatever,
Speaker 2: there's evidence suggesting the narrative may have been have drawn
Speaker 2: inspiration from earlier speculative literature. The nineteen sixty French book
Speaker 2: Mourning of the Magicians, which explores topics like Nazi occultism
Speaker 2: and secret technologies, contained similar themes. Translated into English in
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty three. It may have played planted seeds that
Speaker 2: later germinated into Wakowski's account, suggesting Dieklocky might be more
Speaker 2: literally creation than historical artifact.
Speaker 4: So that book itself actually had a lot of UFO
Speaker 4: and occult stuff as well, and so it pretty much
Speaker 4: hyped up the pulp fiction kind of narrative during that
Speaker 4: time from Nazis because Americans couldn't believe the achievements they
Speaker 4: were advancing so quickly, and so that fed.
Speaker 3: A lot into it.
Speaker 4: What's interesting is that there is a couple of different
Speaker 4: other reports about specifically the SS officer and how he
Speaker 4: was interrogated and he actually gave up all this information
Speaker 4: to the US for pretty much safe passage immunity yeah, identity, yeah,
Speaker 4: and so there is different So when I was reading
Speaker 4: into it, there was like everything was kind of like
Speaker 4: just a little bit few words here and their difference,
Speaker 4: but pretty much it was talking about he actually had
Speaker 4: eyewitness account, like he was a part of this SS
Speaker 4: group that was so elite, even if it was more
Speaker 4: elite than like anybody's all of like the atomic bomb,
Speaker 4: and they pretty much it was so specialized, like the
Speaker 4: clearance level was so intense. But then when you actually
Speaker 4: read other stuff, it was just more like this guy
Speaker 4: that he.
Speaker 3: Met and he he was.
Speaker 4: A journalist himself, and he met this guy and he
Speaker 4: actually him a whole bunch of questions and then he
Speaker 4: found out information.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know which one is it.
Speaker 4: Was he this specialized officer that was in this special
Speaker 4: program and he was actually associated with this, you know,
Speaker 4: above top secret situation, or was he just like a
Speaker 4: run in the middle kid pretty much, and or guy
Speaker 4: that had you know, had visually seen these and then
Speaker 4: you know, ran his mouth to save his ass later.
Speaker 4: I mean, it could be one another the other, it
Speaker 4: could be both, you know. It's just it's one of
Speaker 4: those like.
Speaker 2: The truth might be very much in the middle.
Speaker 4: It's it's one of those scenes of do we really
Speaker 4: care how much it's truthful more or less is it truthful?
Speaker 4: But I think it plays into the narrative of there
Speaker 4: there is at this time no credibility to his story
Speaker 4: because I mean, and even.
Speaker 2: That being said, we and we've talked about Project paper
Speaker 2: Clip a million times and we will talk about it
Speaker 2: a million more.
Speaker 3: It gets brought up during this entire thing the whole time.
Speaker 2: It has to it literally has to. But with that
Speaker 2: being said, because there were so many things that were classified,
Speaker 2: so many things that were redacted, and it was all
Speaker 2: done under Project paper Clip. This is why even the
Speaker 2: stories that sound sci fi, a lot of these sci
Speaker 2: fi stories have come out to be true. So when
Speaker 2: we hear about this one, like at what level is that?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, now, we're too crazy. Now now it's
Speaker 2: a little too much. Not do you mean to tell
Speaker 2: me the Nazis were doing It's like yeah, because they
Speaker 2: were doing this, this, this, and this too. So like
Speaker 2: it's nothing is too crazy.
Speaker 4: It's not too crazy. And especially with SS doctor Hans.
Speaker 3: Kim how do you say his name?
Speaker 2: Where are you looking?
Speaker 3: Kamlough, Kimmeler, Kameler, Kimmeler, Kimlar Calmar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's really famous as what he likes. So
Speaker 4: he was all about Aschwitz and like his whole treatment
Speaker 4: of the Jews and everything that he did. There's a
Speaker 4: lot into him, and we're going to get into him more.
Speaker 4: But he specifically overlooked this project in particular, and then
Speaker 4: he just disappeared.
Speaker 3: There's no record of him. He just disappears.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well or Argentina could be both.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot more.
Speaker 4: We'll get into the potential of where he might have
Speaker 4: gone or whatnot. But he just they actually believed that
Speaker 4: he might have just dipped out.
Speaker 2: With this machine, turned the machine on, and well.
Speaker 4: I was listening to it and I was actually trying
Speaker 4: to find more credible evidence, but I was reading into this.
Speaker 4: I was watching a YouTube video and in the comments
Speaker 4: a lot of people were arguing back and forth about
Speaker 4: specifics when it came to this guy. And apparently he
Speaker 4: had like a fail safe program when it came to
Speaker 4: de Glacka or de glac or whatever the fuck.
Speaker 2: But then.
Speaker 4: Only actually had like a fail safe of taking pieces
Speaker 4: and putting pieces in separate locations so that that way
Speaker 4: he could come back and rebuild it. Because there's a
Speaker 4: theory that he actually never was captured and that he
Speaker 4: has been working on the bell ever since, and that
Speaker 4: he actually got it to work.
Speaker 3: Hence the whole situation that happened in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Which we will talk about.
Speaker 3: With the two bodies and stuff.
Speaker 4: And so they believe that he had fail safe in
Speaker 4: it to take at least a parts and potentially transport
Speaker 4: different pieces of it, and then he went and worked
Speaker 4: on it outside of paper Clip, outside.
Speaker 3: Of anyone knowing.
Speaker 2: So oh wow.
Speaker 4: And I was reading through all the comments and it
Speaker 4: was crazy because a lot of people were sourcing things
Speaker 4: that were interesting, but I couldn't find an actual article
Speaker 4: tying him to any of this because in all accounts,
Speaker 4: he just disappears. So that's a part of this whole
Speaker 4: you know who created this situation.
Speaker 2: And that also ties into it. Right, So he was
Speaker 2: a real dude, Like nobody questions the he was a
Speaker 2: real dude. Yeah, but the fact that nobody ever heard
Speaker 2: from he didn't stand Urrenberg trousers. There may or may
Speaker 2: not be records of him with Project paper Clip. He
Speaker 2: may or may not have shown up in Chile or
Speaker 2: Argentina or Pennsylvania. We'll get to that in a bit.
Speaker 2: But like this is where the reality meets with the
Speaker 2: myth and the legend and the lore, and it's like,
Speaker 2: to what level do we really draw the line of
Speaker 2: wait a minute, that's too crazy.
Speaker 3: So the who built it kind of a thing.
Speaker 4: So when I was watching different historians argue about this
Speaker 4: specific topic, they were talking about like, well, the paper
Speaker 4: trail is dead. There's no actual documentation, which is super
Speaker 4: highly unusual for Nazis, especially during that time, because they were, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're very meticulous in all of their paperwork, and there's
Speaker 4: not a single piece of paper on this. The evidence
Speaker 4: comes from an author which obviously supposed a conversation with
Speaker 4: a Polish Polish intelligence officer that had special access to
Speaker 4: secret material in the interrogation. So see, just that alone
Speaker 4: is different from when I just heard like an hour ago.
Speaker 4: So and then various themes came up with the potential
Speaker 4: who did this? So doctor Warner Heinsberg, the science the
Speaker 4: physicist leader in the atomic bomb program, ye particular the
Speaker 4: nuclear reactor.
Speaker 3: He was captured by.
Speaker 4: Americans and interrogated. Obviously project paper clipped as well. And
Speaker 4: then doctor Klaimer Kammler Kim, I can't say.
Speaker 2: Where's the name.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to find it again. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: uh uh Kamler, Kamler k.
Speaker 2: A M M E L E R. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: that's cam Eler or call Kameler. I don't speak the
Speaker 2: German y'ah. I'm sorry. I don't speak Deutsche. I barely
Speaker 2: speak American English. We're doing our best here.
Speaker 4: So those are kind of the different aspects of who
Speaker 4: potentially is involved or made this, but no one actually
Speaker 4: really knows. So getting back to the article, there's lots
Speaker 4: of different pieces to break down throughout this entire article.
Speaker 3: We're going to be jumping all over the place.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get back into it. It says, if we're
Speaker 2: inside the bell alleged design and function, if we set
Speaker 2: aside questions of authenticity for a moment, what exactly was
Speaker 2: the glock supposed to be? According to descriptions from Wakowski
Speaker 2: and Cook, it was a bell shaped device made of
Speaker 2: a hard heavy metal, approximately nine feet in diameter and
Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen feet tall or in my favorite units
Speaker 2: of metric uh two Dandy DeVito's wide by three Danny
Speaker 2: devitos tall. Its distinctive shape gave rise to its name glock,
Speaker 2: meaning or being German for bell, Okay, fair enough, like
Speaker 2: the Glockenspiel. That's a that's a bell instrument that's used
Speaker 2: as German thing.
Speaker 3: Ok.
Speaker 2: Moving on, The most intriguing aspect of Deglock's alleged design
Speaker 2: involves its internal components and power source. The device supposedly
Speaker 2: contained two counter rotating cylinders filled with a mysterious substance
Speaker 2: code named zerum five two five. Put a pin in that,
Speaker 2: good cult members. We'll be talking about that more in
Speaker 2: depth here in a moment. This metallic liquid, described as
Speaker 2: violet in color and similar to mercury, was reportedly highly
Speaker 2: radioactive and stored in leadline containers when not in use.
Speaker 2: Some reactors have or connected zero five twenty five with
Speaker 2: quote unquote red mercury, another substance of dubious existence that
Speaker 2: is featured in various weapons conspiracy theories since the Cold War.
Speaker 2: I personally believe red mercury is a real thing. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people would argue that it's not
Speaker 2: and it was all just Cold War scare propaganda. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I believe that they've done things with it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, both substances share a common trait. Neither have
Speaker 2: been definitively proven to exist by mainstream science. As for
Speaker 2: what de Glocke actually did, the claims are extraordinary. The
Speaker 2: most common assertion is that it was an anti gravity
Speaker 2: device designed to nullify or manipulate gravitational forces. This would
Speaker 2: have revolutionary implications for aircraft design, potentially enabling the creation
Speaker 2: of the Nazi flying saucers that feature in some UFO
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories, which that's what this thing was. Four Perhaps
Speaker 2: the flying saucerge with swastikas on them might have a
Speaker 2: little bit more legs, who knows. Other sources suggest to
Speaker 2: Glock was a time manipulation device. The project was allegedly
Speaker 2: code named Kronos, which is time or lantern trigger, which
Speaker 2: is light bearer, with references to a quote unquote gate
Speaker 2: of time. Now I'm also I'm not trying to go
Speaker 2: that way with it, but hear me out here. Kronos
Speaker 2: was the Greek titan over time, wasn't he? He was
Speaker 2: like a time god. And then light barer, it was right,
Speaker 2: and then light bearer which is another term for Satan.
Speaker 2: So like, okay, that's interesting in and of.
Speaker 4: Itself, but and the gateway a time kind of just
Speaker 4: makes a lot of different references to things. Yeah, we're like,
Speaker 4: we are going to get more into the different theories.
Speaker 4: This is some of the theories, and there's other ones
Speaker 4: about what it could have potentially done as well.
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, in this interpretation, the desperate Nazi leadership hoped
Speaker 2: to alter the course of history itself, perhaps by sending
Speaker 2: information back in time to change key battle outcomes.
Speaker 3: Twelve Monkeys. Have you ever seen that show?
Speaker 2: I've heard of it, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4: But my always so this theory matches really well with
Speaker 4: Twelve Monkeys, I think.
Speaker 2: My only I'm not trying to like poke holes in
Speaker 2: this already, but that's always been my crazy belief. As
Speaker 2: far as will time travel ever become a thing, I
Speaker 2: believe that if it does, we won't be able to
Speaker 2: go backwards. We might be able to jump forward in
Speaker 2: time because hear me out, Okay, if they ever figured
Speaker 2: out time travel backwards, they would go back in time
Speaker 2: and stop so much horrible shit. But they haven't, so
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's because it's fixed physically impossible.
Speaker 2: Is it because once they figure out they could go back,
Speaker 2: it's going to butterfly effect and fuck up the world
Speaker 2: that they once knew like we've seen that in so
Speaker 2: many movies. I'm more of the belief that if time
Speaker 2: travel is possible, it's more forward than backward.
Speaker 4: So Twelve Monkeys is show. So there's a movie and
Speaker 4: a show. The show had like multiple seasons and it
Speaker 4: was fantastic. So a lot of what they did was
Speaker 4: they specifically targeted how to change things, and they had
Speaker 4: like it took time.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just outright killing everybody.
Speaker 4: They had to like really manipulate what was going to
Speaker 4: happen so it didn't impact and ripple so severely where
Speaker 4: it would change the entire.
Speaker 3: History moving forward.
Speaker 4: And so I don't know if time travel is a
Speaker 4: thing and where they come back, because it'd be very
Speaker 4: difficult because if they say they killed Hitler, then look
Speaker 4: at everything that they would have changed and impacted completely different,
Speaker 4: then would you've created a worse situation as they move forward?
Speaker 3: Like then in you know Project looking Glass, is is
Speaker 3: that what they're doing.
Speaker 4: Are they looking into the future so that way they
Speaker 4: understand back then, Like it's kind of a messy situation.
Speaker 4: I do really enjoy that show, but when I think
Speaker 4: about something like this, Uh, there was a theory that
Speaker 4: Hitler went to three thousand, like the year three thousand,
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, and like that's what he's doing, is
Speaker 4: he's chilling in that time that time frame right now.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of different theories when it came to
Speaker 4: what this is. There's another article we'll get to that
Speaker 4: says more theories, but there was.
Speaker 3: So many of what it could potentially do. I guess what.
Speaker 4: The one thing that really kind of was interesting is
Speaker 4: the when it got turned on is how people and
Speaker 4: I'm going to read what it what it does, but
Speaker 4: a lot of people are saying that anything that was
Speaker 4: in the radius of the thing, it would die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it wouldn't just die, though, We're talking.
Speaker 4: Like melting the flesh off your bones kind of a situation.
Speaker 2: And it was intense.
Speaker 4: It was intense radiation, it was, but also that some
Speaker 4: accounts said that it emitted blue bluish tone light. I
Speaker 4: heard violet light, violet violet streams, violet light streams, but
Speaker 4: the thing itself glowed a bluish hue. So it was
Speaker 4: it's it's like, what is it actually doing. I'm going
Speaker 4: to read a little bit more about the descriptions that
Speaker 4: I found and stuff like that, but it's kind of
Speaker 4: a weird thing. If it was doing those things, was
Speaker 4: it actually working in time?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: Were they jumping time changes? I don't know time, Zoe.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what they're doing with that thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. There's no incorrect answers because.
Speaker 3: Everything see does everything.
Speaker 2: It's lower it's speculation, it's fun. So let's get back
Speaker 2: into it. More grounded theories proposed that de Glocki was
Speaker 2: part of the Nazi nuclear program, perhaps a centrifuge like
Speaker 2: device for isotope separation. This would align with known German
Speaker 2: atomic research during the war, though their nuclear program lagged
Speaker 2: significantly behind the American Manhattan Project.
Speaker 4: So, okay, so to you read a little bit more
Speaker 4: about the description on it. So this is another couple
Speaker 4: different things on this. So on some of the websites
Speaker 4: they say that from they the witnesses actually were the
Speaker 4: surviving construction crew that witnessed this action being hung. And
Speaker 4: so they described it as a massive bell shaped object
Speaker 4: crafted from an unknown heavy metallic ceramic, which.
Speaker 2: Is weird metallic ceramic, metallic.
Speaker 4: Ceramic that was suspended in concrete in a concrete pit.
Speaker 4: It had two caunter rotating cylinders, filled with violet mercury
Speaker 4: like substances. When it turned on, the vibration was felt
Speaker 4: through your entire body, all the way down to your bones.
Speaker 4: It also emitted a bluish glow light from its core.
Speaker 4: Other sources stated that the bell was allegedly kept in
Speaker 4: a basement under high security, suspended by a large by
Speaker 4: large chains, so pretty much kind of the same situation
Speaker 4: where it was suspended. When activated, it was said to
Speaker 4: glow and generate a merre like field around itself. It
Speaker 4: also described as having a series of inductor lights or dials,
Speaker 4: possibly related to its operation or control, but these aspects
Speaker 4: are very are less clear and don't really have any
Speaker 4: accounts of that. They believed that it was extremely dangerous
Speaker 4: and unstable as well, So I mean, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 4: that's you know, but it's just different variations of what
Speaker 4: it looked like how it was because there's when I
Speaker 4: looked into finding any type of actual blueprints, there's like
Speaker 4: the Etsy blueprint, literally you can buy one where like
Speaker 4: somebody just kind of like guestimated overall, I mean, the
Speaker 4: height and width of it and stuff is the same
Speaker 4: across the board, But what it actually was emitting and
Speaker 4: doing is different because it was saying that it was
Speaker 4: going So one of the things that I watched was
Speaker 4: talking about how the cylinders were actually rotating, and how
Speaker 4: they were rotating in different ways, and it sounded like
Speaker 4: fusion actually, and that it was like rotating so quickly
Speaker 4: that it was creating a field around it that was
Speaker 4: emitting different forms of light and that was what was
Speaker 4: causing the intense radiation. They had to keep it down
Speaker 4: below because otherwise they would kill everything within you know,
Speaker 4: twenty mile radius or whatnot, and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then there was an account saying that five out
Speaker 4: of the six scientists that actually worked on this ended
Speaker 4: up dying relatively quickly because it was so such high radiation.
Speaker 4: They had to wear specialized suits, but even that didn't
Speaker 4: work when it got turned on. So I don't know,
Speaker 4: I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 2: I've heard a couple of other descriptions, like it had
Speaker 2: some sort of like hieroglyphs on it. That's another common
Speaker 2: thing you hear about it. But that being said, that's
Speaker 2: not when you look at Hesse and his deep dives
Speaker 2: into going into these places to find some sort of
Speaker 2: a you know, the history of the ancient Aryan race,
Speaker 2: which they believe that all German people descended from and
Speaker 2: all these things, which is also really crazy. Not to
Speaker 2: tangent too hard here, but Aryans come from Iran. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, in the Iranian language, the name
Speaker 2: of their country is the Land of the Aryans. That's
Speaker 2: a Persian thing. Whole blonde hair, blue eyed thing that
Speaker 2: the Nazis were about with the Aryans. That was literally
Speaker 2: out of thin air. There's no record of the ancient
Speaker 2: Aryans being that they were Persian dudes, I didn't know that, yeah, huh, yeah,
Speaker 2: but hear it. But even with that being said, these
Speaker 2: hieroglyphs that they were going on and on about, but
Speaker 2: if we're talking about the ancient Germanic people, it would
Speaker 2: have looked something akin to Runes. It wouldn't have looked
Speaker 2: like some sort of Egyptian hieroglyphs or even something close
Speaker 2: to that. So it just but for that all that
Speaker 2: being said, if this did exist and it did have
Speaker 2: some sort of uh, I'm just gonna use the term hieroglyphs,
Speaker 2: some sort of a language that we don't know how
Speaker 2: to read, these pictorial style language on it, it would
Speaker 2: also make sense the fact that Hess was as high
Speaker 2: up as he was, the fact that this was done
Speaker 2: by a group that was of the upper echelon of
Speaker 2: the upper echelon of the SS for him to come
Speaker 2: over and do his weird little blessings over it and
Speaker 2: to put some sort of like thing on it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see that. I could absolutely see that.
Speaker 3: I don't actually know.
Speaker 4: I've always wondered if maybe they turned it on and
Speaker 4: there was like a YouTube video of this guy that
Speaker 4: actually did like a whole AI creation like it was whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, but the pictures it was pretty interesting because
Speaker 4: they were talking about how, you know, what if they
Speaker 4: actually hid this because of the portals that it opened,
Speaker 4: and that it was spun so quickly and it drew
Speaker 4: in so much energy that it unintentionally opened a riff
Speaker 4: kind of like stranger things, like you know, unintentionally opened
Speaker 4: another dimension to you know, the opposite world or something
Speaker 4: like that, and that they were trying to put in
Speaker 4: potential hieroglyphs or whatever that they're putting sigils on it
Speaker 4: to stop whatever was coming through. And that's why another
Speaker 4: reason why they shut it off and they hit it.
Speaker 2: They were trying to prevent that last episode it was a.
Speaker 4: Really obscure YouTube video of this guy that was kind
Speaker 4: of just talking about it, and I was like.
Speaker 3: You know what, at this point, anything's real, Like, what.
Speaker 2: Was your take on the last episode The Internet is
Speaker 2: shitting episode.
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it. I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 4: reacting to it. We've been I've been just so busy,
Speaker 4: I haven't been able to actually watch the last episode.
Speaker 2: And what I've heard, the Internet's not angry at it.
Speaker 2: Not like Game of Thrones, right, it's just kind of
Speaker 2: like it's basically like a swamp wamp. Really, it's not bad,
Speaker 2: but it's certainly not the ending that everybody waited years
Speaker 2: to see. According to the Internet.
Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't even want to spoil it.
Speaker 4: So we're going to get back to We're going to
Speaker 4: take a pause on the first article and we are
Speaker 4: going to jump into another article that talks about five
Speaker 4: two five and kind of just go into that a
Speaker 4: little bit more, because that's an interesting conspiracy in and
Speaker 4: of itself. There's like multiple levels to this conspiracy. It's
Speaker 4: it has like ten different ones already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's deep. We're going deeper deeper. So this
Speaker 2: is from spectersphere dot com.
Speaker 4: This site has actually quite a few interesting articles on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to them. So what was Zerom five
Speaker 2: two five? For all the good cult members listening x
Speaker 2: r um zero and if I'm mispronouncing it, sorry again,
Speaker 2: I speak American English. The annals of World War Two
Speaker 2: are filled with stories of innovation, desperation, and the relentless
Speaker 2: pursuit of technological supremacy. Among these narratives, the German Wonderwoff
Speaker 2: slash Wonder Weapon program holds a particular fascination for historians
Speaker 2: and enthusiasts alike. One of the most enigmatic components of
Speaker 2: this program is Zerom five two five, a substance shrouded
Speaker 2: in mystery and speculation. So what was Zerom five two five?
Speaker 2: Zerom five two five was a reportedly purplish, metallic looking
Speaker 2: substance that was believed to be highly radioactive. Coded under
Speaker 2: this name, it was widely been associated with DEGLOCKI, a
Speaker 2: mysterious technology alleged to be developed by Nazi Germany during
Speaker 2: World War Two. There have been several different descriptions of
Speaker 2: zero five two five. Some sources liken it to red
Speaker 2: mercury and its properties while others describe it as being
Speaker 2: similar to mercury in appearance and was violet colored. According
Speaker 2: to one resource, the zero five two five was said
Speaker 2: to be derived from a rare crystalline gym called blue
Speaker 2: al Macy ALMASI not sure, found only in Mount Kenya.
Speaker 2: Now that's interesting. I'm trying to remember now, because when
Speaker 2: the Nazis did their thing into the North Africa, I
Speaker 2: don't know if they actually made their way to Kenya.
Speaker 2: I know they we're in Egypt. I know they we're
Speaker 2: in Libya. I know they were in Morocco at least
Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't actually know if Nazi Germany
Speaker 2: made its way south enough to go to Kenya. But
Speaker 2: I mean that doesn't necessarily mean that that's the only
Speaker 2: way they could have done. It was from some sort
Speaker 2: of a conquest way. They could have bought it outright
Speaker 2: from the Kenyan government. I don't know, but I'm just thinking.
Speaker 4: Kenya was a British colony at the time. Actually it
Speaker 4: was controlled by Britain. Right, there's no significant Nazi operation
Speaker 4: or campaigns in East Africa. German Germans actually lived in
Speaker 4: Kenya before the war, but they were not a part
Speaker 4: of the Nazi military efforts. It says the African Campaign
Speaker 4: involved a British and Allied forces fighting against Italian and
Speaker 4: German troops in neighboring territories, not Kenya itself. Post war,
Speaker 4: some former Nazis fled to various countries, but Kenya was
Speaker 4: not one of the primary destinations.
Speaker 2: Okay, So they may have bought it, Yes, they.
Speaker 4: Must have bought it, because it sounds like they had
Speaker 4: no actual ties to them with that.
Speaker 2: To be done though, you would have to buy it
Speaker 2: from the British government because again, Kenya was a British colony.
Speaker 2: Now that's not to say that business still didn't happen
Speaker 2: even during World War Two. I mean, hell, the Russia
Speaker 2: Ukraine conflict right now, Ukraine and Russia have still been
Speaker 2: dealing because the oil and natural gas has still been
Speaker 2: flowing across the border. So like, even though they're at war,
Speaker 2: they're still cutting each other checks.
Speaker 4: So like, you know, I mean, well, it could be
Speaker 4: a situation where you know, maybe potentially some you know,
Speaker 4: other people tribes or and whatnot, whoever actually had this
Speaker 4: was selling to to them. I mean, if there was
Speaker 4: even a handful of Nazis there, who's to say that
Speaker 4: they didn't didn't Actually, you know, we're there for specifically
Speaker 4: this to be found, because they would want to be
Speaker 4: they would want it to be kept a hush hush,
Speaker 4: especially from there, you know, from the British, from the Americans,
Speaker 4: if they're trying to develop this who knows.
Speaker 2: Right on some espionage things. It's just pretty much just
Speaker 2: sort of to some wealthy European dude, they didn't know
Speaker 2: it was a Nazi German guy. He can throw on
Speaker 2: an ask.
Speaker 4: And it's just crystallized, Jim. So if it's not anything special,
Speaker 4: I want to you know, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's true too. It's it's to say that it'sitting some
Speaker 2: wealthy European jeweler that wants to buy this specific gemstone
Speaker 2: for I don't know what, you know. Who's to say
Speaker 2: one way or another. It's very interesting, all right. When
Speaker 2: not in use, the substance was reportedly stored in a
Speaker 2: meter tall, thin thermous flask lined with lead. Oh, we're
Speaker 2: already getting into it here, let's see. Despite the descriptions, however,
Speaker 2: it is important to note that the existence of zerum
Speaker 2: five two five, as well as most aspects around the
Speaker 2: narrative of the GLOCKI have largely fallen into the realm
Speaker 2: of conspiracy theories, a with much skepticism and lack of concrete,
Speaker 2: historical or scientific evidence to conclusively prove such claims. Okay,
Speaker 2: so the context of the Wonderwaffe program, and again we're
Speaker 2: gonna kind of touch on what would lead the Nazis
Speaker 2: to develop this machine in the first place. That's going
Speaker 2: to get hit on a couple of times here, but go.
Speaker 4: Ahead, I'm sorry just to interrupt really quick. So apparently
Speaker 4: one of the German SS officers that was taken in
Speaker 4: an Operation paper Clip actually requested a dense iron based
Speaker 4: alloy that virtually indestructible and capable of absorbing and redirecting
Speaker 4: vast amounts of energy. The basis for the alloway is
Speaker 4: extremely rare and only found in Mount Kenya.
Speaker 2: It's called gundum yes and.
Speaker 4: Was combined when with titanium and yet undisclosed chemical. The
Speaker 4: metallic alloy redefined from this was called ungundium.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The ore was discovered as a result of Operation paper Clipped,
Speaker 4: where doctor ericsh Yeah requested it in order to continue
Speaker 4: his research on rare crystalline gems called blue alsami found
Speaker 4: in the Mount canyon.
Speaker 2: So this is historically factual.
Speaker 4: This is actually historically factual, that's verified.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: So the creation of even a small amount of this
Speaker 4: is extremely tedious and astronomically expensive. While Genesis maintains the
Speaker 4: most complete research. By the way, Genesis is the AI
Speaker 4: program that he just signed. Trump just sidon.
Speaker 2: So the Genesis AI program holds the complete historical records
Speaker 2: yes of basically zero.
Speaker 4: Five to five yes, okay, yes, and the data available
Speaker 4: on the formula and the exact procedures for the manufacturing.
Speaker 4: Certain properties within the community such as the Cabal.
Speaker 3: Have access to it as well.
Speaker 4: What I would literally just look this up like on
Speaker 4: a whim on a fluke.
Speaker 2: So again, as much as this may be speculative, historically speaking, yes,
Speaker 2: there was the German dude, doctor Eric Dratch, who actually
Speaker 2: went to Mount Kenya to find these components, these minerals
Speaker 2: to create ogundium. And this was being done with the
Speaker 2: use of blue al almasi al massy. Don't know how
Speaker 2: to pronounce it, Excuse me, I don't speak Kenyon.
Speaker 4: It can be worked into any particular shape imaginable when
Speaker 4: it's heated up. After it cools, the alloy sets and
Speaker 4: it becomes a solid as well. While the dense molecule
Speaker 4: stru structure is extremely stable, the shape can be altered
Speaker 4: by precise molecular re arrangement.
Speaker 2: And it has to be here to three thousands.
Speaker 4: And the advice such as a god particle disruptor is
Speaker 4: capable of doing, oh my god, which.
Speaker 2: We do have. Sern discovered the Higgs boson aka the
Speaker 2: god particle a few decades back. So yeah, we got
Speaker 2: that capability, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: And it says it over and over again that the
Speaker 4: soul that the refining process is solely guarded by Genesis.
Speaker 2: The exception being Dratch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the exception being.
Speaker 4: The guy that actually created it, which who is closely
Speaker 4: guarded as well.
Speaker 3: This is crazy. This actually might mean this is one
Speaker 3: hundred that this is actually might be real.
Speaker 2: Well, this program, I don't know, we don't talk about it,
Speaker 2: but as far as the zero five two five that
Speaker 2: might be what the Germans called it, but these.
Speaker 4: Days so but he specifically requested it from Operation paper
Speaker 4: Clip for them to go there to continue his research,
Speaker 4: to go get this so that he could continue his research. Wow,
Speaker 4: And that it's guarded by the American AI program and
Speaker 4: so is he and no one else has this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he's dead now, well I know,
Speaker 2: but he.
Speaker 4: Was guarded by this, like in particular. This is insane,
Speaker 4: that's what. Okay, okay, so I'm just mind blown. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: That's why I love our job. Seriously, this is great.
Speaker 4: But I knew that there was conspiracies and I found
Speaker 4: this scene. I'm like, you know, while you're reading, I'm like,
Speaker 4: let me just look up a couple more things just
Speaker 4: to just to try to verify.
Speaker 3: I am mind blown.
Speaker 2: I mean, as we were talking about why would there
Speaker 2: be Germans and Kenya, This dude clearly was, or at
Speaker 2: least some of his agents went there to extract this
Speaker 2: mineral so that they could do the work in Germany. Yes,
Speaker 2: and then when he got picked up, he asked for
Speaker 2: it in America to continue the research that they were
Speaker 2: working on in Germany.
Speaker 3: That wow, yeah, this is crazy. This is really crazy.
Speaker 2: Let's continue on here. So let's talk about the context
Speaker 2: of the WONDERWAFF program. To understand zero five two five,
Speaker 2: it's essential to first grasp the scope and intent of
Speaker 2: the Wonderwaft program initiated by the Third Reich. This initiative
Speaker 2: aimed to develop revolutionary weapons that could potentially turn the
Speaker 2: tide of the war in Germany's favor. It included a
Speaker 2: range of projects, from the V two rocket to jet
Speaker 2: aircraft and other more obscure endeavors. These advanced weapons needed
Speaker 2: some kind of advanced fuel. Since many of the advanced
Speaker 2: weapons never were never found, we can only speculate what
Speaker 2: they did. It is often assumed that the zero five
Speaker 2: two five was used in many of the advanced weapons
Speaker 2: and scientific projects that were researched under this program. Now
Speaker 2: let's talk about the nature of Zerom five two five
Speaker 2: again per our understanding of it, because a lot of
Speaker 2: people will argue that it doesn't exist, even though historically
Speaker 2: something very close to it existed. So okay to take
Speaker 2: that with whatever fucking mountain of salts you need. But okay.
Speaker 2: Specific details about Zerom five two five are scarce and
Speaker 2: often contradictory. However, several theories exist. We're going to go
Speaker 2: over them here. So a, it was a radio act material.
Speaker 2: Some theory suggests that ZEROM five two five was a
Speaker 2: radioactive compound, possibly used in the German nuclear weapons program.
Speaker 2: This speculation arises from the known fact that the Nazi
Speaker 2: Germany was exploring nuclear fission, Okay, and that there's there's
Speaker 2: credibility there.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 2: I understand if people would say, oh, well, they were
Speaker 2: trying to find radioactive isotopes and maybe zero five two
Speaker 2: five was like their code name for something close to uranium, Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Mean in fission.
Speaker 4: I understand why they were working on that, why they
Speaker 4: would be working on that, because I mean, we're still
Speaker 4: working on it today, so that hasn't changed any Sure.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not denying that theory. I respectfully don't get
Speaker 2: down with that one. But I understand why people would
Speaker 2: speculate that, for sure, number two a chemical weapon. Given
Speaker 2: the era's advancements in chemical warfare, zero five two five
Speaker 2: might have been a novel chemical agent designed for use
Speaker 2: in a new class of weapons. Okay. Now, chemical agents
Speaker 2: were outlawed after World War One, right, even convention prevented
Speaker 2: them from ever being used again. However, we know that
Speaker 2: they were at least still used a few times, right,
Speaker 2: and we do know that the Germans were using I
Speaker 2: know some people are going to say it never existed,
Speaker 2: but do your research. It did. Zyklon B, which is
Speaker 2: a chemical agent that was used for extermination. Now that wasn't,
Speaker 2: per definition, being used in warfare. That was being used
Speaker 2: in crimes against humanity, but it wasn't being used on
Speaker 2: the front line against enemy soldiers. There were chemical components
Speaker 2: that were super under the radar. Though It's not like
Speaker 2: no Germans were tried and hung for using chemical agents
Speaker 2: on the battlefield. So if the Germans were trying to
Speaker 2: work on zero five to two five to be a
Speaker 2: chemical agent for the battlefield, they would have undone all
Speaker 2: of the things that they just signed in the Geneva
Speaker 2: Convention like two decades prior, well technically like three. But
Speaker 2: I just got a hard time believing that that's the case. Again,
Speaker 2: I could see where people would draw these conclusions. I
Speaker 2: don't personally think so.
Speaker 4: So this says that when it's unique properties which allows
Speaker 4: it to generate or absorb vast amounts of energy under
Speaker 4: certain circumstances, when combined with molten blue alsamy alsami, I
Speaker 4: don't know how to say it, spider goats silk and
Speaker 4: unmade ceramic like substance.
Speaker 2: And spider goat silk.
Speaker 4: Yes, spider goat silk that I don't know. And this
Speaker 4: is unmade, unmanned and I'm not sure. Actually, the ceramic
Speaker 4: like substance and described with specific alchemic symbols. It forms
Speaker 4: a complete and deestructible material which can be woven into
Speaker 4: fabric and displays uncanny mystical, mystical mystical excuse me properties.
Speaker 2: So this is like essentially mythical kevlar.
Speaker 3: I yes, so I'm wondering. So you know.
Speaker 4: The theory though, is that he escaped to that this
Speaker 4: could potentially uh have transported him different locations, and one
Speaker 4: of those locations is the Moon.
Speaker 2: What well, we're gonna get there back in the game, I.
Speaker 4: Know, But what if this this was able to translate
Speaker 4: whatever they made him like a freaking supersuit.
Speaker 3: What if they were able to go to the moon?
Speaker 4: Ie they have already been there according to Peter Fuller,
Speaker 4: that they've been there and have bases. What if they
Speaker 4: created him some type of supersuit to be able to
Speaker 4: go there that's indestructible.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't like.
Speaker 4: What if that's actually what they did instead with this
Speaker 4: serum like they used it for this potentially or they
Speaker 4: used it to create indestructible mystical potentially occult like with
Speaker 4: like magic with the hard k situation, so they a
Speaker 4: hard k that he could go that he could go
Speaker 4: up there though, like real shit, So I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: When we get to the clips of the video game later,
Speaker 2: it's going to resonate how much homework these homeboys did
Speaker 2: to make this game. The first game they stay on
Speaker 2: the ground, the second game they transport themselves to the
Speaker 2: moon to a Nazi base and there's a black pyramid
Speaker 2: and ruins and shit.
Speaker 3: So wrap all this up with this bad boy.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying there there might be more evidence that
Speaker 4: this is real than what everybody is let on to believe.
Speaker 2: Continuing on here, Okay, so, like we said, chemical agent
Speaker 2: possibly who knows number three an experimental fuel. Another possibility
Speaker 2: is that Zerom five to two five was an experimental
Speaker 2: fuel for aircraft or rockets, let's just say, or experimental machinery,
Speaker 2: let's just give it that little cotext right, So part
Speaker 2: of Germany's effort to develop faster and more efficient propulsions.
Speaker 4: It does actually say in this article as well that
Speaker 4: it has properties to be a fuel, so that's actually
Speaker 4: more likely as well.
Speaker 2: But with that being said, we can't comparing it to
Speaker 2: be a fuel in the context that they just did
Speaker 2: for rockets or aircraft. That would be like comparing jet
Speaker 2: fuel to uranium. I don't believe that that's a fair comparison. Although, yes,
Speaker 2: if we're going to go off a very broad labeling,
Speaker 2: you could say that both of them are a fuel
Speaker 2: source in a way. But if we're talking about the
Speaker 2: same thing here, I don't think the zero five two
Speaker 2: five was a fuel source like that. I don't think
Speaker 2: there was a jet that was being you know, like
Speaker 2: no jet turbines were burning it. I don't believe that anyway. Now,
Speaker 2: if you were to say, a fuel for an experimental
Speaker 2: type of machine that the world had never seen before, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could see it.
Speaker 3: This is interesting.
Speaker 4: So the alloy got its name from the Paraguay named
Speaker 4: Ugon progedy pronjy.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I can't. My contacts are killing me tonight.
Speaker 2: From the prodigy named Ogun or Ugun. I don't know
Speaker 2: who was worshiped as one of the Urashia Arisha's, a
Speaker 2: group of African gods. Professor Krifeo Franklin began experimenting with
Speaker 2: various ores in advanced refining processes following World War Two
Speaker 2: at his privately owned metalworking company named Comas Metalworks. Franklin
Speaker 2: was a pioneer in metallurgy and the manufacturer of industrial metals.
Speaker 2: Due to the racial divide in the United States during
Speaker 2: the time, he entrusted his Caucasian friend and business partner,
Speaker 2: Alexander Comas, to be the frontman while he worked behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, hence the company being named Comas Metalworks. Wait,
Speaker 2: this dude was in so this dude was in Africa,
Speaker 2: but somehow, because of the racism in America, he had
Speaker 2: a white homie to be the frontman. Okay, whatever, who knows?
Speaker 2: Who knows? Maybe America was like his biggest uh, his
Speaker 2: biggest market, so okay, who knows. Eventually, Comas became obsessed
Speaker 2: with the idea of controlling which directed or which direction
Speaker 2: of the company moved in and wanted to out Franklin,
Speaker 2: but he had no claim to the patents which were
Speaker 2: responsible for the company's success. Because of this, Comas was
Speaker 2: bought out by an anonymous source and himself ousted from
Speaker 2: the company, which later took on the name Franklin Metalworks.
Speaker 2: In the early nineteen seventies, while working with the United
Speaker 2: States government on a secret project directly tied to Operation
Speaker 2: paper clip. Franklin sought out the rare ore which dratch
Speaker 2: Drake I don't know so described and with his assistance,
Speaker 2: used it to create an indestructible alloy which would become
Speaker 2: known as ogundium. Ogundium.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Wow, So that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4: I wonder what that if we could find the actual patents,
Speaker 4: Like not right now, but I wonder if, like we
Speaker 4: had time, we could find the patents gundium.
Speaker 2: Let's see if there's something we could find on that's crazy,
Speaker 2: all right, So let's get into the educated guesses and
Speaker 2: speculation as far as zero five two five goes. Due
Speaker 2: to the lack of concrete information, experts often make educated
Speaker 2: guesses about zero five two five connection with Diglock. The
Speaker 2: bell zero five two five is sometimes linked with the DIGLOCKI,
Speaker 2: a purported top secret Nazi scientific technological device. Some claim
Speaker 2: zero five two five was used as a fuel or
Speaker 2: catalyst for this mysterious device, which that would kind of
Speaker 2: be the premise of why we're bringing it up here
Speaker 2: on the episode Advanced propulsion Research. Considering the technological innovations
Speaker 2: of the time, it's plausible that zero five two five
Speaker 2: was part of research into cutting edge propulsion methods potentially
Speaker 2: involving anti gravity or other unconventional principles. Okay, now, if
Speaker 2: that's what they mean by propulsion, okay, now could I
Speaker 2: could get down with that again. I don't think they
Speaker 2: were burning it as a fuel source or something like that.
Speaker 2: But if it had some sort of an anti gravity property,
Speaker 2: which let's also give this description to or distinction, not.
Speaker 4: Just say that being held down by chains, well yes,
Speaker 4: it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: Just so we're clear here, anti gravity does not mean
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean what people think it means. Okay, so
Speaker 2: anti gravity means more think hovering, not floating up into
Speaker 2: the sky. Just so we're all clear here, Like, uh,
Speaker 2: if for whatever reason the Earth was to lose its
Speaker 2: gravity for a second, uh, we wouldn't well I mean,
Speaker 2: I know the Earth is spinning and everything, but like,
Speaker 2: just for this example, bear with me, we wouldn't fly
Speaker 2: up like we're on the air National Space Station and
Speaker 2: be like grasping it grass to stay onto the Earth.
Speaker 2: We would probably hover like just a few inches or
Speaker 2: a foot above the ground. That's basically when you look
Speaker 2: at what gravity is, anti gravity just means like to
Speaker 2: have an anti gravity property, you're basically taking two objects
Speaker 2: with mass and moving them further away from each other,
Speaker 2: because every object with mass has a gravity in and
Speaker 2: of itself. So to say anti gravity, you're basically you're
Speaker 2: not reversing it. You're just turning it off, if that
Speaker 2: makes sense. So it's not like we would be propulsed
Speaker 2: off of the Earth. We would be hovering above it,
Speaker 2: just barely. So for the Bell de GLOCKI if it did,
Speaker 2: if it was being fueled by something anti gravity, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would understand what they would need change to just
Speaker 2: keep it in the same position as it went up
Speaker 2: and down, like the foot or so off the ground.
Speaker 2: This makes sense to me. But just so we're all clear,
Speaker 2: a lot of people think when they hear anti gravity
Speaker 2: that it's we're zooming off like the Jetsons or something
Speaker 2: that's this is not the case, but anyway, Okay, So
Speaker 2: if they were using it for some sort of advanced
Speaker 2: propulsion research as far as is hovering, which would definitely
Speaker 2: do a lot as far as the need and for
Speaker 2: fuel and to make the machinery work, because at that
Speaker 2: point you're just completely tampering with the laws of physics. Okay,
Speaker 2: I could see that being the case.
Speaker 4: Fair enough, so when I'm looking more into this, I
Speaker 4: can't find any patents for it, and I will say
Speaker 4: that I can't find some of this stuff, so it
Speaker 4: could potentially be that this is maybe made up, but
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Seems pretty interesting, so okay.
Speaker 2: Well, moving on here the challenges of verification. Okay, So,
Speaker 2: the primary challenge in verifying any information about zero five
Speaker 2: two five lies in the scant and often destroyed records
Speaker 2: from the latter part of World War Two. Many Nazi
Speaker 2: research documents were either lost, destroyed, or remained classified, which
Speaker 2: has led too much of the information about zero five
Speaker 2: two five being speculative at best. Zero five to five
Speaker 2: remains an enigmatic chapter of the history of World War Two.
Speaker 2: Its exact nature and purpose continue to elude historians, with
Speaker 2: only fragments of information available to guide educated guesses whether
Speaker 2: it was a radioactive material, a chemical weapon and experimental fuel,
Speaker 2: or something entirely different. Zero five two five symbolized the
Speaker 2: lengths to which the Nazi regime went in its pursuit
Speaker 2: of advance and potentially war changing technology. As with many
Speaker 2: aspects of the Wonderwath program, the truth about zero five
Speaker 2: two five may forever remain a blend of fact, educated conjecture,
Speaker 2: and enduring mystery. Okay, very nice, very nice. So now
Speaker 2: we're going back to the articquer mm hm all right, So.
Speaker 3: So where was this actually built? War stored?
Speaker 4: So this is kind of this This is where the
Speaker 4: whole call of duty situation comes into comes into play
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: And now we've talked about zero five two five. When
Speaker 2: you see certain things on the wall of the map,
Speaker 2: it's going to make a lot more sense because it's
Speaker 2: it says that on the wall a lot like this
Speaker 2: is the area where they were creating this, and this
Speaker 2: is the area where they were doing this, and then
Speaker 2: where this was and yeah.
Speaker 4: Little touches that they added in to make sure they
Speaker 4: got it hit historically accurate.
Speaker 3: They didn't quite.
Speaker 2: Fucking homework on this game. I didn't realize it was
Speaker 2: to this level. And as we're going into this, because
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of like Nazi Zombies, it's the best,
Speaker 2: but man, such an extra level of add of respect
Speaker 2: to the programmers here. But anyway, all right, so where
Speaker 2: was this created? Where was the laboratory to which all
Speaker 2: this was going down? De rece the Giant's shadow? So
Speaker 2: continuing on, where was this mysterious device supposedly developed. According
Speaker 2: to legend, the Glocky experiments took place at a facility
Speaker 2: code named de Resee, which is German for the giant,
Speaker 2: near the Wan Salons mine in Lower Selenia and Cilicia.
Speaker 3: This is why, how'd you read it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't be speaking these these other types of
Speaker 2: European languages. But okay, the Lower Silicias in area that
Speaker 2: was part of Nazi Germany during the war but is
Speaker 2: now in southern or southwestern Poland. Yeah, that was like
Speaker 2: the first place they invaded. I just curious with the Russians,
Speaker 2: by the way, that was the thing. De Reese was
Speaker 2: a real Nazi construction project, part of the quote unquote
Speaker 2: Project Reese complex of underground tunnels and facilities built in
Speaker 2: the Owl Mountains using forced labor from the nearby gross
Speaker 2: Rosen concentration camp. The Nazis did indeedconstruct extensive underground works
Speaker 2: in this region, though their exact purpose remained subject to
Speaker 2: debate among historians.
Speaker 4: So really quick, so the concentration camp where this guy
Speaker 4: that I was talking about earlier, the SS General, They
Speaker 4: actually the scientists supposedly went on strike like in a
Speaker 4: way to try to get better conditions for the Jews
Speaker 4: that were working, because he was so horrific to them.
Speaker 4: It was so bad that they felt so uncomfortable that
Speaker 4: they went on strike. So what did he do. He
Speaker 4: arrested them all, through them in jail and told them,
Speaker 4: all right, well, when you behave then you can come
Speaker 4: out and actually work.
Speaker 2: The scientists.
Speaker 4: The scientists so they put a stop to it all
Speaker 4: and was like, fuck you, this is not happening because
Speaker 4: I'm going to do what I want Hitler. Hitler made
Speaker 4: me in charge of this, and so the scientists eventually
Speaker 4: caved and went back to work and whatnot. But apparently
Speaker 4: he was so horrific that he's well known for lots
Speaker 4: of different things, but specifically how his treatment was with Auschwitz.
Speaker 4: Like if there was an article saying that if there
Speaker 4: was gas chambers or torture or anything like that, Like
Speaker 4: if there was any way people were dying, it was
Speaker 4: because of him directly, Like he was the one that
Speaker 4: would be pushing that along.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, mister scientist, don't think that your science is
Speaker 2: going to get in way of our final solution. Basically
Speaker 2: he was telling them, yeah, no, he.
Speaker 4: Is like this is my way or the highway kind
Speaker 4: of the thing, and I'm blessed to do this, so
Speaker 4: fuck off.
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with and we've talked about
Speaker 2: him a million times here, very famous Nazi scientist Werner
Speaker 2: von Braun, who is the reason why we even got
Speaker 2: rockets into space because when he got to America, he
Speaker 2: was one of the founding home boys of NASA. Right,
Speaker 2: he was not just oh he was a good not
Speaker 2: as scientists in Germany and he just happened to go
Speaker 2: along with the Nazi party because they were the ones
Speaker 2: that were paying him. No, no, no, no, he himself
Speaker 2: oversaw the hanging of the five slowest Jews outside of
Speaker 2: his laboratory every week. Every week he would hang five
Speaker 2: fresh Jews because they were the slowest at making his rockets.
Speaker 2: So like when he got to America and helped found NASA,
Speaker 2: Oh well, he was just a really good scientist that
Speaker 2: found himself in a really bad country to which he
Speaker 2: was born. It's like, no, no, no, he was as
Speaker 2: hardcore of a Nazi believer as you could possibly get.
Speaker 2: So let's not get it twisted here. The scientists that
Speaker 2: were working in this condition, they actually had an ounce
Speaker 2: of humanity within them. But the true blue not well,
Speaker 2: I should say true red Nazis were not at that shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I just wanted to add that in
Speaker 4: here because like the concentration camp where they came from,
Speaker 4: like it was horrific in and of itself, but apparently
Speaker 4: the working conditions were so bad that Nazis felt some
Speaker 4: type of way to say something like that's how bad
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 2: Now with this being said, the Nazis that were tunneling
Speaker 2: into these mountains. So now I'm not saying this is
Speaker 2: obviously what they were doing.
Speaker 4: This whole situation which we're going to read an entire
Speaker 4: article about this isn't seen in and of itself. The
Speaker 4: feet in which they made this, how big it is,
Speaker 4: what they did and how fast they did it, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: So you have you seen the movie George Clooney and
Speaker 2: some like college art professors made a special team to
Speaker 2: go in and extract artwork that was taken by the Nazis,
Speaker 2: and they were hiding them in caves all over No.
Speaker 4: But I know that there is lots of movies where
Speaker 4: they reference artwork and specialized things hidden in caves all
Speaker 4: over the place. And I've watched a lot of different
Speaker 4: historical stuff on Nazi regime.
Speaker 2: And I highly recommend this movie. George Clooney killed the role, which,
Speaker 2: first of all, find me a role he doesn't kill.
Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, but whatever. But the movie itself
Speaker 2: talks about these caves and some of them were already
Speaker 2: in these mountains and the Nazis just kind of were
Speaker 2: using them to store stuff off the beaten path. Some
Speaker 2: of them they had dug. So as far as this goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: using slave labor from the Nazi from the concentration camps
Speaker 2: to dig tunnels was definitely a thing that the Nazis did.
Speaker 2: Like it's not like this was a nuanced thing. But
Speaker 2: then again, like you're saying, the scope of these particular
Speaker 2: caves that they were digging, this wasn't to hide some
Speaker 2: sculptures and some paintings. We're gonna get to this, We're
Speaker 2: gonna get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Hitler's like final solution, like well his
Speaker 4: like Hail Mary situation of a place to go to
Speaker 4: and all the stuff there.
Speaker 3: So anyways, so anyway.
Speaker 2: Let's continue here. De Reise, like I said, was a
Speaker 2: real project Reese, right. It was a complex underground tunnels
Speaker 2: and facilities built in the owl mountains. Moving on. Here,
Speaker 2: near the alleged testing site stands a curious concrete structure
Speaker 2: named the hing by Dick glocks enthusiasts, or the hinge,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how you would pronounce it. It's resembling
Speaker 2: a circular arrangement of support pylons. This structure has been
Speaker 2: interpreted as a testing rig for de Glocky, perhaps designed
Speaker 2: to safely secure the device during anti gravity experiments. Skeptics
Speaker 2: counter that it's simply the remains of an industrial cooling tower,
Speaker 2: a much more mundane explanation that requires fewer logical leaps. Okay,
Speaker 2: hear me, here I go.
Speaker 4: That's the Hitler stone hinge.
Speaker 2: I have worked in and around many a cooling tower,
Speaker 2: many a cooling tower in my day. I'd have never
Speaker 2: seen one that I've seen one one in my life
Speaker 2: that was circular, and the base for it was not
Speaker 2: something that would be anything near stone hinge. It was
Speaker 2: blocks that the legs stood on and that was it.
Speaker 2: Most cooling towers are long, cube, rectangle style buildings. So
Speaker 2: to say that this was the basis for a cooling tower.
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing too, For a cooling tower
Speaker 2: to be needed, you would have to have something industrial
Speaker 2: right to warrant that. Yeah, you'll have like on top
Speaker 2: of hospitals or on top of big high rise buildings
Speaker 2: and stuff, you'll have cooling towers that are used for
Speaker 2: their air conditioning and their h VAC systems. And I
Speaker 2: understand that that's not the same thing.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a picture of it right now, and
Speaker 2: everybody who's curious, look, go Hitler Stonehinge. That is not
Speaker 2: what we're looking at here. This is the base for
Speaker 2: something massive, and it wouldn't be some round cooling tower
Speaker 2: in the middle of bump fuck nowhere owl mountains with
Speaker 2: no industrial purpose anywhere for miles. What are we talking
Speaker 2: about it?
Speaker 4: It's really it's a really strange looking structure. To say
Speaker 4: that it's a cooling tower, it's not. It doesn't look
Speaker 4: anything like a cooling tower, at least to me. The
Speaker 4: name itself is Moha paka.
Speaker 2: Move how move mohow waka moaka. It sounds Native American
Speaker 2: as fucked.
Speaker 4: Hitler's Stone Hinge is what it's referenced to. And so yeah,
Speaker 4: it's uh. It's located by It's located in Poland near
Speaker 4: the Czech border, and they have a lot of speculations
Speaker 4: as to what this actually could be. They talked about
Speaker 4: a missile launch site, they've talked about it's a cooling thing.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of theories about that, the machine.
Speaker 2: Perfect example forty five to now, like, that's not crazy.
Speaker 2: We know when all the Nazi buildings were doing and
Speaker 2: being used for in all this. They don't know if
Speaker 2: this random structure was the base of a cooling tower
Speaker 2: or a missile test site. Those don't fucking look similar, y'all.
Speaker 2: Well are we talking about here?
Speaker 4: So the main theory though, that it was specifically built
Speaker 4: for de Glaca, I believe, and that for me, I think,
Speaker 4: of God, I'm trying to think of some movies that
Speaker 4: actually happens. You know, when they have such a high
Speaker 4: energy vortex, it creates like a beam up into the
Speaker 4: sky kind of a thing where like you see it,
Speaker 4: like it it channels between dimensions.
Speaker 3: Okay it Honestly, I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't say that I know what it's about, But when
Speaker 4: you look at the picture in and of itself, it's
Speaker 4: like it was it.
Speaker 3: Down down deep deep.
Speaker 4: And like they decided that maybe when this bitch turn on,
Speaker 4: it's like they're gonna need to funnel that energy.
Speaker 3: Up to something.
Speaker 2: Look, I'll put it like this, and they.
Speaker 4: Have like what if they have magic in those Like
Speaker 4: what if they actually engrave shit in those towers?
Speaker 2: For anybody that's curious, go look up right now on
Speaker 2: your phone, on the interwebs, whatever. Look up what a
Speaker 2: rocket testing site looks like. Just take two seconds. Look
Speaker 2: it up. Could be America. Even even better, look at
Speaker 2: a testing site from the nineteen fifties, nineteen sixties, I
Speaker 2: don't care. And then look up what a cooling town
Speaker 2: looks like. And then tell me how and why these
Speaker 2: people are speculating that these could be Oh, it could
Speaker 2: be this, or could be that. This is oh, man,
Speaker 2: I wish you could find a comparison. This is like
Speaker 2: speculating that, uh, the pot that you would cook food
Speaker 2: in on your stove. You know, we found this ancient artifact.
Speaker 2: We don't know if these people were uh, you know,
Speaker 2: performing surgeries in it, or if they were you know,
Speaker 2: delivering babies in it. Like, bro, wait, what what are
Speaker 2: you talking about? That's that's about as stupid as that
Speaker 2: sounds out loud, based off of the pictures I'm looking at. Anyway,
Speaker 2: all right, moving on, moving on, So the de Rese site.
Speaker 2: It was a project, no doubts about this. And if
Speaker 2: you're curious what the site looks like that we're talking
Speaker 2: about here, look up Hitler Stonehenge. Its that's crazy. Anyway,
Speaker 2: continuing on here, skeptics counter that it's simply oh yeah,
Speaker 2: we talked about that, okay. So what makes Derese connection
Speaker 2: compelling is that it grounds the diglocking narrative in a
Speaker 2: real location with verified Nazi activity. The under our tunnels
Speaker 2: and facilities are tangible remnants of the Third Reich secretive
Speaker 2: wartime projects. However, no documentary evidence specifically connects these sites
Speaker 2: to a bell shaped wonder weapon. H yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay, So then this is actually a website that talks
Speaker 4: this is just a it's a military history website.
Speaker 3: It's a fandom fandom website.
Speaker 4: But then when you actually like look into there is
Speaker 4: they just kind of compiled everything that they actually found.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it didn't seem like it was falsifying stuff.
Speaker 4: But so this actually goes into the entirety of this
Speaker 4: massive ass place they built. It's not just a tiny
Speaker 4: little place either, it's huge. And then they had so
Speaker 4: many experiments down there, and these are a lot of
Speaker 4: the experiments they took with them to Project paper Clip,
Speaker 4: and like it's slowly being released and all of that,
Speaker 4: A lot of them I don't even think we know about,
Speaker 4: like truly have we have the knowledge, but they're never
Speaker 4: going to release that information to us.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, let's read into it. I don't see
Speaker 2: why not. So Project Reese, which again Reese is German
Speaker 2: for Giant, is the code name for the construction Project
Speaker 2: Nazi of Nazi Germany started and left unfinished in the
Speaker 2: Owl Mountains and Keseyaks. I don't know how to pronounce that.
Speaker 2: The castle, it's a castle. But again, for any of
Speaker 2: our Polock cult members out there, I don't understand how
Speaker 2: many different types of punctuation you need on top of
Speaker 2: and above your letters to make it make different noises.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if my mouth can make those noises.
Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, Moving on, it was from nineteen
Speaker 2: forty three to nineteen forty five. Allegedly, it consists of
Speaker 2: seven complexes of the underground military facilities located in the
Speaker 2: Lower Silesia previously Germany, now territory of Poland. All right,
Speaker 2: so let's get into it here. The history. In the
Speaker 2: presence of the increasing Allied air raids, Nazi Germany moved
Speaker 2: a large part of its strategic armaments production into the
Speaker 2: assumed safety of the district of Sudan seuditenlen Okay. In
Speaker 2: September nineteen forty three, a project was created to construct
Speaker 2: Hitler's headquarters in this castle that I can pronounce and
Speaker 2: underground factories below al mountains. For this purpose, the Schlachsis
Speaker 2: in Oh Jesus Christ, the Silesian industrial Company there we Go,
Speaker 2: was established in autumn of nineteen forty three, with headquarters
Speaker 2: in Jadina Zoraj, again apologies for the butchering. The plans
Speaker 2: included adaptation works in this castle, the creation of the
Speaker 2: underground complex below the castle, and the construction of tunnels
Speaker 2: and large underground halls at several locations in the al mountains.
Speaker 2: The rocks of the mountains were drilled and blasted with
Speaker 2: explosives and the resulting caverns were reinforced by concrete and steel.
Speaker 2: Then a network of roads, a narrow gage railway, water supply, sewerage,
Speaker 2: electricity and telephone lines were put into place for this purpose.
Speaker 2: Mining specialists were employed, mostly Germans, Italians, Ukrainians and Czechs,
Speaker 2: but the majority of the work was done by forced labors,
Speaker 2: chiefly polls in Russians and POW's like Italians and Russians,
Speaker 2: and of course the Germans are the Jews, excuse me.
Speaker 2: In November nineteen forty three, labor camps were established in Jadinka, Gorna,
Speaker 2: Willem and Colts Sure. Dissatisfied with the progress of the project,
Speaker 2: in April nineteen forty four, supervision of the construction was
Speaker 2: handed over to the organization Todd Todt headquarters in Jadina.
Speaker 2: Prisoners of the nearby concentration camp were assigned to forced labor.
Speaker 2: They were deployed in thirteen camps and a hospital in
Speaker 2: the vicinity of the complexes. The network of these camps
Speaker 2: has been named the Something Something Reeese or the list
Speaker 2: of SubCamps of Arbor slager Reese, and was part of
Speaker 2: the gross Rosen concentration camp. The administration of this and
Speaker 2: the camp commander SS Albert Luke Lutkiemmeyer Luke Amyer were
Speaker 2: located in Oh Jesus I wish and where somebody could
Speaker 2: speak Germany.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're good. Froster Gerdorff, Yeah, you're good.
Speaker 2: From December nineteen forty four to January nineteen forty five,
Speaker 2: the prisoners were guarded by eight hundred and fifty three
Speaker 2: SS troops. According to incomplete data, at least thirteen thousand
Speaker 2: prisoners worked for the project, most of them transferred from Auschwitz.
Speaker 2: The documents allowed the identification of eighty nine hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety five prisoners. All of them were Jews, about seventy
Speaker 2: percent of from Hungary, the rest from Poland, Greece, Romania,
Speaker 2: Czechoslovakia and the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. They board tunnels
Speaker 2: inside the mountains, built roads and railway tracks that worked
Speaker 2: in transportation of building materials. Yeah, mortality was very high
Speaker 2: because of the disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, dangerous underground works, and
Speaker 2: the treatment of prisoners by German guards. The por deportation
Speaker 2: of eight hundred and fifty seven exhausted prisoners to Auschwitz
Speaker 2: concentration camp, as well as fourteen plant executions after failed
Speaker 2: escaped attempts are documented. The estimated total number of five
Speaker 2: thousand victims lost their lives. This okay, and I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to take this time to like go on the
Speaker 2: whole Holocaust denial bit. But again there is so much
Speaker 2: documentation of the Jews that were in prison, the executions,
Speaker 2: all these things. It's it blows my mind that people
Speaker 2: actually use that as a talking point. But anyway, moving on.
Speaker 2: According to Albert Speer, Minister of Armament and War Production
Speaker 2: for the Third Reich, this is a direct quote here.
Speaker 2: In nineteen forty three, Hitler had two underground headquarters blasted
Speaker 2: in the mountains in Silesia and Thuringia, the project tying
Speaker 2: up hundreds of indispensable mining specialists and thousands of workmen.
Speaker 2: According to point eighteen of the fur Of Protocol June twentieth,
Speaker 2: nineteen forty four, I reported to the Fear that at
Speaker 2: the moment a good twenty eight thousand workers are building
Speaker 2: additions to the Furious headquarters. According to my memorandum of
Speaker 2: September twenty second, nineteen forty four, some thirty six million
Speaker 2: marks were spent for bunkers in Rastenberg, which is the
Speaker 2: Wolf's Layer, which, if you know anything about Hitler and
Speaker 2: his wolfs, this was the military arm of his occult group.
Speaker 2: We've talked about that before. Anyway, thirteen million marks for
Speaker 2: bunkers in Pollock, near Munich to provide for Hitler safety
Speaker 2: when he visited Munich, and one hundred and fifty million
Speaker 2: marks for the bunker complex called the Giant near Bad
Speaker 2: Charlotte Brunn. Okay, the Giant would be the site that
Speaker 2: we're talking about here. So it's documented that the Nazis
Speaker 2: spent one hundred and fifty million marks on the development
Speaker 2: of the Giant laboratories. These projects required three hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty eight thousand cubic yards of reinforced cons including small
Speaker 2: quantities of masonry. Yeah, two one hundred and seventy seven
Speaker 2: thousand cubic yards of underground passages, thirty six miles of
Speaker 2: roads with six bridges, and sixty two miles of pipe.
Speaker 2: The quote unquote Giant complex alone consumed more concrete than
Speaker 2: the entire population had at its disposal for air raid
Speaker 2: shelters in nineteen forty four. This is a direct quote
Speaker 2: from Albert Spear, who was the Minister of Armaments and
Speaker 2: War Production for the Third Rite during that time.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, wow, It's almost like whatever was being done
Speaker 4: down there was more important than winning the war at
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 2: More important than the air raid bunkers.
Speaker 3: M HM was more important than anything. Yeah, So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of stands to reason that whatever I e.
Speaker 4: The glaucke and other things were vastly more important at
Speaker 4: that point to the Nazis, especially Hitler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed. According to Nicholas Vaughan below Bello Hitler's adjutant.
Speaker 2: So if anybody's curious what an adjutant is, look it up.
Speaker 2: But this is some of my very important Hitler is
Speaker 2: basically what we're saying here direct quote. The plans that
Speaker 2: we kept criticizing in those months early nineteen forty four
Speaker 2: included the construction of a huge new headquarters for the
Speaker 2: fur In in Silesia near Waldenburg, which was also to
Speaker 2: include Furstenstein Castle within the estate of the von Pless Princes.
Speaker 2: Hitler defended his orders and commanded that construction continue with
Speaker 2: the use of concentration camp prisoners managed by Spear. During
Speaker 2: the year, I visited this facility twice, and each time
Speaker 2: had the strong impression that I wouldn't see its completion.
Speaker 2: I tried to inspire Spear to somehow influence Hitler to
Speaker 2: give the order that the project be stopped. Spear said
Speaker 2: that was impossible. The extravagant work continued at a time
Speaker 2: when every ton of concrete and steel was so urgently
Speaker 2: needed elsewhere. Whoa again and this is all verified document
Speaker 2: from the third Reich Mm hmm, I don't care.
Speaker 4: So it's one hundred percent like real that this situation
Speaker 4: was going on with this, with these underground tunnels.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. It definitely makes you consider what
Speaker 3: do they.
Speaker 4: What was so important down there that they would that
Speaker 4: they would be doing this and that this would cause
Speaker 4: such a ripple in his inner circle.
Speaker 2: Like specifically this site, because like they said, they built
Speaker 2: all this shit in Munich knowing bad and I that
Speaker 2: that was that was important. We need that in Munich,
Speaker 2: in the owl mountains in Poland, like damn near to
Speaker 2: the check border, Like what what are we doing here? Bro?
Speaker 2: No continue?
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's on a lay line.
Speaker 2: I would I just have a weird feeling.
Speaker 4: I feel like that too. I feel I could probably
Speaker 4: look it up. I was currently looking at the information
Speaker 4: because I was trying to find actual quotes of Jewish
Speaker 4: people that work there.
Speaker 2: I doubt we find that awesome.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like there might be. I mean, there's a
Speaker 4: lot to talk about why it was happening and what's
Speaker 4: going on and all that stuff. But they said that
Speaker 4: there's many accounts from it, and I'm like, well, where
Speaker 4: are the accounts then?
Speaker 3: Did what was actually said?
Speaker 4: I mean, because like if there's people that survived, I eat,
Speaker 4: the witnesses that saw it hanging and all of that stuff,
Speaker 4: and potentially Jewish people that survived the camps and were
Speaker 4: able to get you know, out eventually and they gave it,
Speaker 4: where is it, Like, where are the transcripts?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 4: Like, I was just kind of scanning as I'm listening
Speaker 4: to you, because I read the hierarchical already.
Speaker 2: If they are if they're tunnel diggers right from a
Speaker 2: concentration camp, they're not being told where they're going.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, but if you're there and you're
Speaker 4: seeing all of these scenes and you're seeing all the
Speaker 4: movement and all of these science experiments happening and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, you would think at least, because you have
Speaker 4: to think. Just like the Romans, for example, they didn't
Speaker 4: view them as people, so you know, they they had
Speaker 4: slaves around them all the time, and they would talk
Speaker 4: about things, they would do things, and the slave population
Speaker 4: would hear all these things, see all these things.
Speaker 3: So it wouldn't put it past them to have stuff around.
Speaker 4: The Jewish people to where you know, they didn't expect
Speaker 4: them to live, right, So why would it matter if
Speaker 4: they saw some a secret thing or you know, not
Speaker 4: obviously a de Glauckie, but maybe potentially createsive stuff being
Speaker 4: brought in or experiments being done. There's just not I'm
Speaker 4: trying to find one single account of like an actual
Speaker 4: written account.
Speaker 3: Can I read it verbatim?
Speaker 2: I also think it's interesting that they used prisoners mostly
Speaker 2: from like Hungary, right, nobody that would have been familiar
Speaker 2: with this area. I mean, of course there were some
Speaker 2: Jews that were from Poland, and from Germany and from
Speaker 2: Belgium and things like this, but primarily they used the
Speaker 2: concentration slave labor from areas not familiar with the area
Speaker 2: to which they were digging. We also think it's kind
Speaker 2: of interesting, but I hear what you're saying, right, Why
Speaker 2: would it matter? Because if they're all going to be
Speaker 2: killed in the final solution anyway, so what mattered if
Speaker 2: they hurt some sort of a quote unquote state secret Now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there, if they're being watched twenty four seven,
Speaker 4: then they're so malnourished and everything else, and they you know,
Speaker 4: they're consistently dying. Yeah, why would it matter if they saw,
Speaker 4: you know this, if they saw something happening.
Speaker 2: I am though if you could find some direct quotes,
Speaker 2: I'd be sick. But yeah, these are the direct quotes
Speaker 2: from Hitler's boys that were talking about Yeah.
Speaker 4: So they were upset with him in and of itself
Speaker 4: because a site was just wasting all of their resources
Speaker 4: and money and he was so dead set on this site.
Speaker 4: It stands the reason why why was he so hell
Speaker 4: bent on doing this when you're losing like you were losing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. So, as far as a memoir from a survivor,
Speaker 2: one does exist, okay, and I found it just with
Speaker 2: a quick search here. So the memoir is called Plunder,
Speaker 2: a memoir of family property and Nazi treasure. So here's
Speaker 2: the over under on this. This dude who was the
Speaker 2: grandson of a Holocaust survivor. Basically he realized that his
Speaker 2: grandfather actually wrote memoirs while in captivity and he was
Speaker 2: actually a part of the construction of the Reese facility.
Speaker 2: He wrote his memoirs on scraps of paper from cement
Speaker 2: bags and he hid them in latrines. After the war,
Speaker 2: he went back and collected all of these scraps and
Speaker 2: got with a writer to try to compile them into
Speaker 2: his memoirs. And it was only it was he wrote
Speaker 2: them in Yiddish and they were later translated to Polish.
Speaker 2: His grandson who started all this because he was trying
Speaker 2: to reh what's it called whenever, like you're trying to
Speaker 2: get back something that was taken from your family, not
Speaker 2: reappropriate or maybe it is reappropriate. Basically, his grandfather owned
Speaker 2: a business in Poland and it was taken by the Nazis,
Speaker 2: and so he was trying to just get this building
Speaker 2: back under his family's inheritance basically, and he met with
Speaker 2: some pretty solid opposition and I don't know if he
Speaker 2: actually ever got that accomplished. However, in the mix of
Speaker 2: all this, he got in contact with He never met
Speaker 2: his grandfather and he was still alive when he was
Speaker 2: writing this book, but his family, basically, they were estranged
Speaker 2: from him. I don't know. The family drama not important.
Speaker 2: But he got with his grandfather's first cousin and that's
Speaker 2: how he made all these connections. He's like, yeah, your
Speaker 2: grandfather wrote this memoir and this and this it documents
Speaker 2: his time in the tunnels, and with that, okay, no
Speaker 2: mention of experimental things or crazy science things that he saw,
Speaker 2: but it also talks about the crazy conditions at which
Speaker 2: they lived. And from those memoirs and others like it,
Speaker 2: there are somewhere around two hundred different quote unquote treasure
Speaker 2: hunting groups that are currently working in these tunnels, because
Speaker 2: these tunnels are blown up and closed off whenever the
Speaker 2: Nazis like pulled out as a way to like lead them,
Speaker 2: and they were hoping that nobody would ever find these
Speaker 2: underground facilities. Some of these tunnels are open for the
Speaker 2: tourists public right now as a matter of fact, but
Speaker 2: not into the deeper levels because they're too dangerous quote unquote.
Speaker 2: But this is way off the beaten path as far
Speaker 2: as like when somebody is trying to be a bit
Speaker 2: of a World War II historian and you think to
Speaker 2: go to Auschwitz, right, you would think to go to Berlin,
Speaker 2: You would think to go to these types of places.
Speaker 2: Nobody is thinking of going to Owl Mountain. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: nobody's thinking of Wait a minute, what's going on in
Speaker 2: these Nazi caves? Now? Even the writer said that, yes,
Speaker 2: he heard stories about the time machines. He heard stories
Speaker 2: about these things.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 2: He doesn't believe in these stories, however, there's nothing to
Speaker 2: say they didn't happen. His grandfather never wrote about them,
Speaker 2: but he was more focused on the hardships of the
Speaker 2: enslaved Jewish population rather than the wild shit they may
Speaker 2: have seen in the tunnels. And it's also possible keep
Speaker 2: in mind his grandfather was writing this down on scraps
Speaker 2: of paper off of a bag of cement, So like,
Speaker 2: maybe he didn't write about this kind of shit because
Speaker 2: he didn't even know if he was going to live
Speaker 2: to see tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe.
Speaker 4: I mean, realistically, if you're starving to death and you're
Speaker 4: being tortured and everything else that's happening to you, I
Speaker 4: don't think you're really going to be highly paying attention
Speaker 4: to what's around you in the sense of like what
Speaker 4: are they doing?
Speaker 3: Let me make sure.
Speaker 4: I mean I could see, like maybe I could try
Speaker 4: to escape, so I'm paying attention to those kind of things.
Speaker 2: But and there were escape attempts which are documented.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I hell, I would try to escape too,
Speaker 4: you know, I could see that being a thing. But
Speaker 4: if you're like gonna go down, because I mean, even
Speaker 4: if they were caught in some facility and they wrote
Speaker 4: something down that they saw, or like one of the
Speaker 4: you know, the scientists, they they were watching them a
Speaker 4: little bit too hard, they.
Speaker 3: Probably honestly just killed them.
Speaker 4: I mean right, like why would you keep a prison
Speaker 4: population around and when you have more to come? Yeah,
Speaker 4: if they've seen something they shouldn't so exactly.
Speaker 2: So to answer your question, is their documentation of some
Speaker 2: things that went down in the tunnel? Yes, does it
Speaker 2: talk about experimental Nazi tech? No, Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4: Really widely because I was reading a different article and
Speaker 4: it wasn't really They were kind of like they were
Speaker 4: alluding to it, but they didn't actually outright say what
Speaker 4: people said.
Speaker 2: But keep in mind also the dude who was writing
Speaker 2: his memoir was the Jewish dude who was digging the tunnel.
Speaker 2: Like once the tunnel was constructed, they were onto the
Speaker 2: next tunnel. They don't know what that tunnel is being
Speaker 2: used for. Once they left.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like they're moved on, so they're not keeping
Speaker 4: them in there. They're not creating stuff around. Now, that's
Speaker 4: what the Nazi, that's what the eight hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: five other SS people were for obviously taking care of
Speaker 4: the Jewish population that was there, but also doing what
Speaker 4: they need to do in this top secret facility. And
Speaker 4: if there is different levels to it, then you know
Speaker 4: they don't know everything that's going on.
Speaker 2: So again, historically speaking, not in the realm of conspiracy theory,
Speaker 2: not in the realm of sci fi. Completely documentable and factual.
Speaker 2: The Drese facility is a real place. You can go
Speaker 2: there and tore it right now. What was it being
Speaker 2: used for? Well, some have speculated that was for storing
Speaker 2: art like we were talking about, or treasure by any
Speaker 2: other means, gold, famous paintings, all the stuff, all the things.
Speaker 2: Some would speculate that it was being used for experimental tech.
Speaker 2: And that's what leads us into the conversation for today.
Speaker 2: As far as the d Glocki now together with the
Speaker 2: Red Army and the Polish Army, arrived in the area
Speaker 2: in May of nineteen forty five. After the war, the
Speaker 2: complexes were stripped of all machinery and raw materials within
Speaker 2: a few years. They were very valuable to a country
Speaker 2: ruined as a result of six years of war. Facts
Speaker 2: some German documents concerning Project Reese were found by the
Speaker 2: Polish Army and taken over by the Office of Security
Speaker 2: and never seen again. So the Polish government has the documentation,
Speaker 2: but I mean what actually survived, how much of it
Speaker 2: was just kind of tossed out, how much of it's
Speaker 2: been redacted? Project paper Clip went.
Speaker 4: Deep, which I find interesting though, because you because your
Speaker 4: Poland has like really stepped up their military game.
Speaker 2: Poland is little European Texas right now, for sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, That's what I thought, and there was isn't there
Speaker 4: a conversation about is it Russia or somebody else trying
Speaker 4: to they're talking about maybe potentially going and starting a
Speaker 4: war with them.
Speaker 2: So I getting into the current geopolitics here just a second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I just I'm just kind of trying to
Speaker 4: think about, you know, because if we're talking about if
Speaker 4: that fandom or you know, article that we read is true,
Speaker 4: that Genesis is the ownering of all all of this information,
Speaker 4: and that Poland was involved in this and this is
Speaker 4: where it's actually located, and the situation that happened with
Speaker 4: Pennsylvania and all of these things wrapped into one. If
Speaker 4: they actually had some of this information themselves and they've
Speaker 4: finally gotten too a place where they are able to
Speaker 4: build up their military, really build up their military. Was
Speaker 4: it to say that they aren't actually using some of
Speaker 4: the documentation that they took from these caves and are
Speaker 4: experimenting and trying to get themselves on the player board.
Speaker 2: If that was true, it may be very well.
Speaker 4: Maybe these are all hypothetical, So you're just kind of
Speaker 4: thinking out loud of like, hmm, what could be if
Speaker 4: that was true.
Speaker 2: I don't think Poland would be spending every spare dime
Speaker 2: they have on American tech. Every time we have a
Speaker 2: missile that's willing to be sold, they're willing to buy it.
Speaker 2: Every jet that we have available they want to buy,
Speaker 2: like they're buying everything we have. They're not developing anything
Speaker 2: of their own as of this moment. Now that's not
Speaker 2: to say they may not be working on something under
Speaker 2: the table that we don't know about or something I
Speaker 2: could see it. But also it's interesting that in that
Speaker 2: memoir the Poles were very okay with the Jewish population
Speaker 2: being slaughtered, and that's documented by the dude who lived
Speaker 2: through it. Yeah, Poland was invaded by the Nazis, for sure.
Speaker 2: The Polish Jews were sent to the concentration camp. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure. According to the survivor of the Holocaust that
Speaker 2: he was quoting in his memoirs here, he hated the
Speaker 2: Poles almost as much as he hated the Nazis, because
Speaker 2: they they were just fine with it, Like there was
Speaker 2: no protest. There was very few Poles by the documentation here.
Speaker 2: Not this is in our opinion, this is from the memoirs.
Speaker 2: Very few Polish people even objected to the Jewish people
Speaker 2: being taken off to the concentration camps and being slaughtered,
Speaker 2: and especially when they fired up the ovens. Yet the
Speaker 2: people in the surrounding towns know what that smell is,
Speaker 2: and they knew what was going on, and someone like,
Speaker 2: well they turned a blind eye out of fear. That
Speaker 2: may not be accurate. They may have turned a blind
Speaker 2: eye because they didn't like the Jews either.
Speaker 4: I mean, it could be, it could be both, but
Speaker 4: could be. Fear is a huge driving factor for humans.
Speaker 4: So the fear of conforming so that way one you
Speaker 4: aren't being ousted, two you're not gonna be drug into
Speaker 4: all this shit, and your family not slaughtered is a
Speaker 4: huge factor in being like, it's not affecting me so
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be participating.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be like, nope, not seeing it.
Speaker 2: Now. That was also Poland in the nineteen thirties and forties.
Speaker 2: They're a different this is a different world we're living
Speaker 2: into today kind of thing. But just according off of
Speaker 2: those memoirs, they're the h Yeah, the poles were down
Speaker 2: with the Jews being taken on mass as they were.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I do not know. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: as far as what these tunnels are being used for,
Speaker 2: could have been used for holding Nazi treasure, very possibly.
Speaker 2: That is extensive, and sixty miles worth of tunnels, that
Speaker 2: is very extensive to be done for paintings and sculptures
Speaker 2: and gold.
Speaker 3: I don't see. I don't see.
Speaker 2: Telephone lines, electricity, Like, I'm sorry, what There's no way
Speaker 2: that Hitler threw all of his lot into this situation,
Speaker 2: pretty much, not to that level, No, not to this level,
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million marks, in the point where
Speaker 2: they're losing.
Speaker 4: The war, like you're losing the entire war, you know this,
Speaker 4: and you're throwing pretty much everything you have into this facility.
Speaker 4: There's no way that it's just holding some fucking art like,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, there's just no way that it makes logical
Speaker 4: sense at all. And the fact that his own his
Speaker 4: own members were questioning, why are we doing this?
Speaker 3: What are we doing this for?
Speaker 4: I mean, personally, I don't think the story that the
Speaker 4: that the books are based off of from the SS
Speaker 4: officers slash potentially.
Speaker 3: General that you know, had this intelligence.
Speaker 4: I personally don't think that it's real in that sense
Speaker 4: from that man in particular, because if you're talking about
Speaker 4: such an elite, specialized program that's so top secret that
Speaker 4: only a handful of people really know about it, what
Speaker 4: are the odds of this individual in particular is going
Speaker 4: to be running his mouth to a random journalist that
Speaker 4: he runs that he encounters. I don't think that's feasible.
Speaker 4: Do I think that Deglacle might be real? Potentially? Potentially,
Speaker 4: I think it has a lot more merit. And I
Speaker 4: don't know if the website that we read and we were,
Speaker 4: you know, as I looked more into it, potentially it's
Speaker 4: just a fantasy. But I will say there it was actual.
Speaker 4: I did look up the doctors and those that doctor
Speaker 4: was actually a real man.
Speaker 2: Being listed and named. No, they're real.
Speaker 4: People, for you know, But the doctor of the metal
Speaker 4: work was a real person as well. So I don't
Speaker 4: know if this is a thing of people put it
Speaker 4: together and like this is what we're speculating, but it
Speaker 4: holds merit.
Speaker 2: So it's got more merit than what the online fandoms
Speaker 2: would have you believe. This is based a lot more
Speaker 2: in historical proof, So I.
Speaker 4: Mean it definitely this is one of those things. And
Speaker 4: this facility in and of itself is just it's weird
Speaker 4: to me. It's weird that so many people are like, man,
Speaker 4: it's not really something that we're going to talk about,
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, why aren't we talking about it?
Speaker 4: Because if he knew that he was losing the war,
Speaker 4: and he was, they had all of these technological advances
Speaker 4: already that were so superior, you know, to compared to
Speaker 4: everybody else, why wouldn't we talk about the place where
Speaker 4: all of this is going down that seems just out
Speaker 4: of nowhere, picked out of random.
Speaker 2: Because the other stuff the Nazis were doing that are
Speaker 2: historically verified are interesting enough to where that could be
Speaker 2: the entire conversation full stop. And even if the underground
Speaker 2: tunnels were never even done, it's still like there's enough
Speaker 2: to talk about as far as the Nazis are concerned,
Speaker 2: then when we have something like this, the tunnels are real,
Speaker 2: what were they doing down there? Immediately goes into the
Speaker 2: realm of speculation, myth legend, lore, all the things. There's
Speaker 2: tons of stuff that is verified, and then there's this.
Speaker 2: I think that might be another reason why they tiptoe
Speaker 2: around it, because going too deep down the rabbit hole
Speaker 2: pun intended, hey actually might detract from some of the
Speaker 2: other claims about the Nazis. I disagree with that statement,
Speaker 2: but as far as the literature is concerned, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know either.
Speaker 4: But they were so crazy about paperwork, and then this,
Speaker 4: then this facility comes about.
Speaker 2: Oh that was another thing. They're saying that maybe these
Speaker 2: tunnels are being used to hold archives.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what we're going to spend all this money on,
Speaker 3: and all.
Speaker 4: The massive filing cabinets, all these lives and everything else.
Speaker 3: That's what we're doing, is.
Speaker 2: Just they can hold on to their record.
Speaker 4: You know what if though, because this is apparently machine
Speaker 4: as well, or potentially it could cross over and and
Speaker 4: do different you know things. What if he actually this
Speaker 4: was a facility where they were bringing stuff to take
Speaker 4: to Antarctica. So if like it actually did work and
Speaker 4: you could transport to different locations, oh like a teleporter,
Speaker 4: like a teleporter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's it. So that's one of the theories
Speaker 3: that it's a teleporter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what if they were actually like bringing shit
Speaker 4: into there and just teleporting it through the tunnels like
Speaker 4: there it's down below and they're they're building their secret
Speaker 4: Nazi base in Antarctica.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 4: That's not secret, but like you know, right, quote unquote secret,
Speaker 4: not secret but new.
Speaker 2: Swaben Land anybody who's curious. We did an Antarctica episode
Speaker 2: not too terribly long ago. We talked about it briefly.
Speaker 3: But are they taking it to Hollow Earth?
Speaker 2: They dug a tunnel in the Owl Mountains all the
Speaker 2: way to Hollow Earth or in Antarctica to Hollow Earth? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean shit, maybe.
Speaker 4: I'm look, I'm over here just speculating a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of shit.
Speaker 5: We do.
Speaker 4: I'm just being wild with it at this point. But
Speaker 4: you know, hey, it's it's a fun one. It's a
Speaker 4: weird one. I'll give you that. So yeah, back to this.
Speaker 4: This article goes in deep. Each section that was built.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about it more than let's go
Speaker 2: so they we were talking about the raw materials. They
Speaker 2: were taken within a few years of the war being over.
Speaker 2: This makes sense. Poland got the shit knocked out of it.
Speaker 2: So the Polish army that was able to reclaim materials
Speaker 2: and machinery, they're going to reclaim it for the country.
Speaker 2: This makes sense to me. They were very valuable to
Speaker 2: a country ruined as a result of six years of war.
Speaker 2: For sure. Some German documents concerning project reaches were found
Speaker 2: by the Polish Army and taken over, like we said,
Speaker 2: and to the Office of Security, and they were never
Speaker 2: seen again. So what was it? Who was it? We
Speaker 2: don't exactly know. It's all in the realm of ob security.
Speaker 2: It appears that the castle and its immediate surroundings were
Speaker 2: prepared as one of Hitler's main headquarters, although there is
Speaker 2: no direct evidence in documents. The purpose of the underground
Speaker 2: complexes and the mountains has been not been determined. The
Speaker 2: opinions of experts inclined towards the assumption that they were
Speaker 2: shelters for war production. Okay, maybe, but you know, you
Speaker 2: don't build munitions in a in a cave in their mountain.
Speaker 2: Because if one thing goes off and everything else goes off,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna collapse the mountain? You're gonna collapse
Speaker 2: all the tunnels that you spend all that time building.
Speaker 3: You didn't kill everybody in there on accident.
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound very feasible, my boy. But okay, anyway, So
Speaker 2: none of the underground workings are finished. All are in
Speaker 2: different states of completion, with only a small percentage of
Speaker 2: tunnels reinforced by concrete except for complex, whatever the hell
Speaker 2: the castle is. Presently, the underground workings are visited by
Speaker 2: tourists and enthusiasts of military facilities. Much of the underground
Speaker 2: system is closed because of the risk of accidents. I'm
Speaker 2: sure the complex is Reshaka Wladors and ozel walk Shep
Speaker 2: are open to visitors. The individual structures of the project.
Speaker 2: Now let's get into it here. Let's start off with
Speaker 2: this castle that I can't pronounce. It is located in
Speaker 2: the city of Wallbriz. They give the lat long for it.
Speaker 2: But you know, whatever the castle that the castle's last
Speaker 2: owner in the inter war period was the Houchburg family
Speaker 2: or Hokeburg rather, one of the wealthiest Baronnial Dynasties in
Speaker 2: Prussia which is now Germany. Hans Heinrich, the fifteenth Prince
Speaker 2: of Plus, and his English wife married Teresa Olivia Cornwallas
Speaker 2: West aka aka Princess Daisy.
Speaker 3: You could have just gone with that man. That name
Speaker 3: is ridiculous, said that.
Speaker 2: I mean. Also it's interesting, so Cornwallas as in the
Speaker 2: general that led his armies against George Washington. So people
Speaker 2: forget that too. A lot of the British officers were
Speaker 2: of nobility by blood. So whenever they're talking about the
Speaker 2: Prince of Plus and the one of the wealthiest families
Speaker 2: in the Prussian dynasty and his English wife, no, no,
Speaker 2: So this was nobility marriages one hundred percent. So Mary
Speaker 2: Teresa Olivia Cornwallis West aka Princess Daisy, because that, yep,
Speaker 2: was of the British nobility for sure. In nineteen forty one,
Speaker 2: the Nazis confiscated the castle. At the time of the
Speaker 2: sons of Daisy and Hans Heinrich fought against Hitler's army,
Speaker 2: one of the British army and one of the Polish
Speaker 2: armed forces in the West. The works in this castle
Speaker 2: led to the destruction of some of the chambers, In particular,
Speaker 2: the decorative elements of the ceiling and floors suffered. The
Speaker 2: most serious work, however, took place below the castle. There
Speaker 2: are two levels of corridors and chambers. The first level
Speaker 2: is fifteen meters underground, accessible from the castle by a
Speaker 2: lift and a staircase, and also by two interrances from
Speaker 2: the gardens by a lyft. They mean an elevator. They
Speaker 2: say that in Europe it is reinforced by kane eight
Speaker 2: eighty meters long. Wow. The second level is fifty three
Speaker 2: meters under the courtyard. It contains four entrances, the network
Speaker 2: of wide tunnels and four chambers. Most of the underground
Speaker 2: is reinforced by concrete, and there are three shafts leading
Speaker 2: to the surface with diameters of five meters three point
Speaker 2: five meters ander point seven meters wow. The total link
Speaker 2: of the complex is nine hundred and fifty meters. I
Speaker 2: think that's squared. Presently, it contains seismological measuring equipment belonging
Speaker 2: to the Polish Academy of Sciences. Only the first level
Speaker 2: of the underground is open to visitors. Above ground are
Speaker 2: foundations for machinery, a series of buildings and storehouses and
Speaker 2: two reservoirs for water. There are remains of a sewage
Speaker 2: treatment plant and a narrow gage railway. The forest labor
Speaker 2: camp of al Furstenstein was built near the castle.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So again they even built a concentration camp near this castle.
Speaker 2: For the record, the memoirs that I talked about earlier,
Speaker 2: this dude was at least in twelve of the concentration camps.
Speaker 2: Of what we know, there was over one hundred, so
Speaker 2: he was at least.
Speaker 3: Man, he's unlucky as fuck, I mean, but that's the deal.
Speaker 2: They will kind of cycle people through to kind of
Speaker 2: you know, make it happen that way. Which wow. So
Speaker 2: now let's talk about the complex. Rizeska probably butchered, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. The complex is located on a borderline between
Speaker 2: the villages of Rezesca and Jallin, outside Ostra Mountain. There
Speaker 2: are three entrances leading to the parallel tunnels about forty
Speaker 2: five meters away from each other. Between them are large
Speaker 2: halls up to ten meters in height.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: In we have one is reinforced by concrete. Two are collapsed.
Speaker 2: The tunnel number one is one hundred meters long and
Speaker 2: has almost finished guard room Wow, there's one cheft leading
Speaker 2: to the surface, presently filled with rubble. The link of
Speaker 2: the complex of tunnels is five hundred meters. Built above
Speaker 2: ground was the main telephone exchange, capable of serving a
Speaker 2: few hundred phone numbers. So again, this was a pretty
Speaker 2: massive complex underground. For the to have a phone server
Speaker 2: that could do one hundred numbers, you gotta keep in
Speaker 2: mind those oldle operator stations where you would have to
Speaker 2: like unplug from one, and you know, you see the
Speaker 2: old cartoons of it and shit. But even still, if
Speaker 2: you got a few hundred phone numbers, so let's just
Speaker 2: say three hundred phone numbers, so you have three hundred
Speaker 2: individual offices with individual phones in them, and you have
Speaker 2: a serve of substation basically to do that outside the tunnels.
Speaker 2: This wasn't a little thing going on down low. Wow.
Speaker 2: A narrow gage railway was used for transportation, and in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five the complex Raziska was open for visitors
Speaker 2: and in the spring of two thousand and one transformed
Speaker 2: into a museum. It contains exhibits connected to history of
Speaker 2: Project Reese. Wow. So now let's continue here. So complex
Speaker 2: all dors Wloda RZ Walladars. I don't know. The complex
Speaker 2: is located near the village of Juallen, inside Waladar's mountain.
Speaker 2: There are four entrances eighty meters to one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty meters away from each other, leading two tunnels containing guardrooms.
Speaker 2: The entire complex is a large amount of corridors intersecting
Speaker 2: at right angles and forming a grid. It contains one
Speaker 2: of the biggest unfinished halls, which is ten meters high.
Speaker 2: There's a shaft leading to the surface. The depth is
Speaker 2: about forty meters and has a diameter of about four meters.
Speaker 2: Some of the corridors have higher second levels connected by
Speaker 2: smaller shafts. This is a stage of creating big halls.
Speaker 2: Two tunnels were bored one over the other and the
Speaker 2: ceiling was collapsed to create a large space. Approximately thirty
Speaker 2: percent of the complex is flooded and can only be
Speaker 2: accessed by boat.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: The total length of the tunnels is three thirty one
Speaker 2: hundred meters. Above ground are foundations for machinery and holds,
Speaker 2: the reservoir of water, and storehouses with thousands of fossilized
Speaker 2: bags of cement. The forest labor camp al Wolfensburg Wolfsburg
Speaker 2: was built near the complex. The network of narrow gage
Speaker 2: railways existing here after the war was disassembled and scrapped.
Speaker 2: The complex is open to visitors. Uh, moving onward here
Speaker 2: complex oh so Osalka Okay. The complex is located near
Speaker 2: the village of KOLs and s Nika inside Ohsoka Mountain. Again,
Speaker 2: my bad for these pronunciations.
Speaker 3: A little picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is actually a pretty decent picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that one's a lot bigger.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So the how tall it is is thirty two point
Speaker 3: eight feet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about ceilings thirty feet high.
Speaker 4: Which is kind of strange that you'd make such a
Speaker 4: huge ceiling. Yeah, like you'd go out of your way
Speaker 4: to spend that much time doing that.
Speaker 3: What do you have in there? Is it? Giants?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, so in certain regards I can understand
Speaker 2: because heat, Oh hold me heat. So like having super
Speaker 2: vaulted ceilings, Okay, that makes sense to me. Thirty feet
Speaker 2: high and again they're like five meters wide, so like
Speaker 2: not crazy, but also like yeah, what do you what
Speaker 2: are you doing down there? Holy shit?
Speaker 4: I mean it's pretty tall though, Like I could see
Speaker 4: maybe having I don't know, like enough to be able
Speaker 4: to take tanks into or like, you know, if you're
Speaker 4: if you're.
Speaker 2: Staring sauce, is gonna suffocate everybody.
Speaker 4: Well, I know, but I was thinking about, you know,
Speaker 4: if you're storing those at the entrance or something like,
Speaker 4: you know, you have like a spare room that you're
Speaker 4: just gonna put them off into just in case or whatever.
Speaker 4: But that's just seems abnormally tall to me. I know,
Speaker 4: that's such a weird, random thing to fixate on, But
Speaker 4: I was like, why is this so tall?
Speaker 2: No? No, But that's has a very good point though.
Speaker 2: So continuing with the Osaka complex, here, it has two
Speaker 2: entrances and one tunnel not connected to the main underground,
Speaker 2: all different levels. There is a shaft leading to the
Speaker 2: surface forty eight meters down in five diameter. Tunnel number
Speaker 2: one is one hundred and fifty meters long. It has
Speaker 2: chambers created for a guardroom. The tunnel number two, four
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty meters long, begins on the level fifteen
Speaker 2: meters below the main underground. It has a guardroom reinforced
Speaker 2: by concrete and behind it there is a so called
Speaker 2: quote unquote fault. It is a connection to the two
Speaker 2: levels created by the collapse of a ceiling. Tunnel Number
Speaker 2: three is one hundred and twenty meters long. It is
Speaker 2: not connected to the main underground. It has four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty I'm sorry. It is four hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: meters away from the entrance number two and forty five
Speaker 2: meters below the level of the main underground. The tunnel
Speaker 2: contains two dams, A hydraulic equipment of unknown purpose oh
Speaker 2: and hydraulic equipment wow. The total length of the tunnels
Speaker 2: is one hundred and I'm sorry. Seventeen hundred meters. Above
Speaker 2: ground are foundations through machinery and buildings, the depots of
Speaker 2: buildings and teals, and the reservoir of water. The network
Speaker 2: of narrow gage railways existed here. After the war. The
Speaker 2: forest Labor Camp AWL super Waltzer was built near the complex.
Speaker 2: Two objects are particularly interesting, the so called officers Mess,
Speaker 2: which is a six hundred and seventy nine square meter room,
Speaker 2: and the power station, which is a damn near nine
Speaker 2: hundred square meter room. The officers Mess is a building
Speaker 2: with walls half a meter thick and a roof adapted
Speaker 2: for a camouflage or for camouflage by vegetation. An unfinished
Speaker 2: subway connects it with the shaft. The quote unquote power
Speaker 2: station is a concrete monolith. It's thirty by thirty meters
Speaker 2: with tens tins of pipes, drains, culverts, and equipment of
Speaker 2: unknown purpose. The complex is open for visitors.
Speaker 3: It's really strange.
Speaker 2: So you would have a power station underground. That's that's
Speaker 2: a move. I wonder.
Speaker 3: I wonder how deep he was going to go. I mean,
Speaker 3: if he if this.
Speaker 2: But it's into a mountain though. That's the other thing.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's like under the surface, like sea
Speaker 2: level kind of thing.
Speaker 3: M but I mean even still like super deep.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a Minecraft shit.
Speaker 4: It is some Minecraft ship, Like, oh my god, it
Speaker 4: is some Minecraft shit, and like each one is is different.
Speaker 4: Each one is big, like it's it's wild because it's
Speaker 4: you know, what else is what else is down there?
Speaker 4: I just wonder if there's actual like more tonnel. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because it goes into each one of them and it
Speaker 4: talks about like how big they are and what they
Speaker 4: like speculate and where it's located and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So I mean, we don't have to read each one,
Speaker 4: but it talks about like you know, this one complex
Speaker 4: socle like, Yeah, that one is a different I think
Speaker 4: this one is a different soft bedrock and standstone, and
Speaker 4: it's a short tunnel, yeah, with a various mining equipment
Speaker 4: in it. So it's like a staging ground where this
Speaker 4: one was starting to be built, or at least that's
Speaker 4: where they were staging all the equipment at so al Falkenberg.
Speaker 2: Was the forced labor camp that was near it, complex juggalists, jugoists.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's another one again, the forced labor
Speaker 2: camp out will still Walter doorf that's the one that
Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2: That okay, hold on then.
Speaker 4: So this one, just to briefly go, this is the
Speaker 4: seven entrances leading into the six independent tunnels, and so
Speaker 4: it talks about which tunnels they have kind of some
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: Are shorter, some of them longer.
Speaker 4: The one tunnel six is collapsed thirty meters into the
Speaker 4: entrance and has not been explored as double thirty meters
Speaker 4: into the entrance, double armored doors.
Speaker 2: I feel like this one might be a little bit
Speaker 2: more significant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one at the end, one at the entrance, and
Speaker 4: one behind the collapse. The total number is seven has
Speaker 4: length of forty meters with concrete reinforcement ten meters long.
Speaker 4: They identified tunnels of the complex have the length of
Speaker 4: five hundred and fifty meters above ground. Remains buildings in
Speaker 4: storage infrastructure in a narrow narrow railway, the forced labor
Speaker 4: camps of that really long one yep, nearby complex. So yeah,
Speaker 4: this one, like the number four, was underground total length
Speaker 4: with four hundred and fifty meters. There was a staff
Speaker 4: leading into yeah, leading to the surface, but it wasn't
Speaker 4: fully connected. Yeah, so this is this is one of
Speaker 4: those that's just so this work.
Speaker 2: There is armored doors on the entrance. Then they collapsed
Speaker 2: it and there's another set of armored doors behind the collapse. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like Complex JUGOITZ might be a little bit
Speaker 2: more significant.
Speaker 4: So if we're going off of a zombie situation, which
Speaker 4: we are going to not to zombies next, but continue,
Speaker 4: this reminds me of the behive of Resident Evil and
Speaker 4: how they built it and like the fail safe to collapse,
Speaker 4: you know, collapse certain levels and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Which did not work obviously onto something here.
Speaker 4: But what if you know, if we're going to talk
Speaker 4: about zombies, what if something happen. They have double reinforcement doors,
Speaker 4: and that's you know, they haven't explored this at all,
Speaker 4: and so I mean it had a whole It had
Speaker 4: a real way too, though, So what did this one
Speaker 4: was one of the ones that led off into another location,
Speaker 4: i e.
Speaker 3: Where De Glacke was.
Speaker 2: I think that might be a little more plausible more than.
Speaker 4: The other one, because if the one has the double doors,
Speaker 4: two sets of and has a real way going to it,
Speaker 4: I think maybe that might be a situation where that
Speaker 4: would be mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: All right, So continuing complex, sobon again, it's it's another
Speaker 2: one of these complex three tunnels running three directions to
Speaker 2: one point, so basically like a I don't know, like
Speaker 2: a triangle kind of thing. Possibly, okay. The tonnel number
Speaker 2: one is two hundred and sixteen meters long, tunnel number
Speaker 2: two is two hundred and fifty meters long, and tonne
Speaker 2: number three is one hundred and eighty meters long. Is
Speaker 2: not connected to the main underground, so it collapsed eighty
Speaker 2: three meters from the entrance and has been explored in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen by drilling shaft from above. It is one
Speaker 2: of two short tunnels which were found with mining equipment
Speaker 2: from nineteen forty five. The total link of the tunnels
Speaker 2: is seven hundred meters. Al Larsh was the force labor
Speaker 2: camp that was associated with it. Gluzeka Okay, this is yeah.
Speaker 2: This is the air raid shelter. Allegedly it was the
Speaker 2: center of activity connected to Project Rees.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: It was in the center of activity. Many camps of
Speaker 2: forced laborers were located in this area. It was a
Speaker 2: reloading place for the majority of supplies due to the
Speaker 2: existence of a railway junction. In autumn of nineteen forty three,
Speaker 2: the factory of something I can't pronoun Something Krupp was
Speaker 2: relocated here from Essen. It took over local industry, mostly
Speaker 2: textile factories, and adapted them to armament's production as a
Speaker 2: preparation for the war and air raid shelter was built
Speaker 2: inside a hill near the factory of Meyer Kaufman Textile
Speaker 2: work AG. It has two indrances and is reinforced by
Speaker 2: bricks and concrete. Wow. Moving on complex mil Cow complex
Speaker 2: the hamlet of Milcow and inside the Waldikia Mountain. It
Speaker 2: is not classified as one of the complexes of Reese Interesting.
Speaker 2: It consisted of the ammunition and explosives factory Dynamite nobel
Speaker 2: Ag code named Mulkwork Okay, which was located around the
Speaker 2: unused coal mine of Winslause. The explosives from Dynamite nobel
Speaker 2: Ag were used to blast the tunnels of Reeese and
Speaker 2: the power station located here supplied the project with electricity.
Speaker 2: The coal mine was closed and flooded in nineteen thirty
Speaker 2: nine because of the frequent methane explosions. One hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety one miners lost their lives and won such explosion
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty. When adaptation works started nineteen forty two,
Speaker 2: numerous buildings and bunkers were built for the production and
Speaker 2: storage of ammunition and explosives. Interesting, so, anyway, they have
Speaker 2: a photo gallery, but none of them are really coming
Speaker 2: up right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they I don't know why they're not, but they do.
Speaker 4: So they kind of show all the different pictures of them,
Speaker 4: people's pictures them when they actually go in and view.
Speaker 3: Them and stuff like that. So wow, I thought that
Speaker 3: was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: So this is the breakdown of from what we understand
Speaker 2: here all of the known tunnels to be associated with
Speaker 2: Project Reefs and again some of them, Okay, I could
Speaker 2: understand this is like they were building this tunnel, they
Speaker 2: may not have gotten to finish it. Whatever the case,
Speaker 2: that one with the double the.
Speaker 3: Double seven tunnels.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting things when it comes
Speaker 4: to this specific area.
Speaker 3: I would love to know though, if it was on
Speaker 3: a lay line, for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, that's the other thing too. They keep
Speaker 2: in mind, these were the same people that thought the
Speaker 2: Arians were white with blond hair and blue eyes. So
Speaker 2: whenever they thought that they were on a lay line,
Speaker 2: they just thought because Germany was clearly the master race
Speaker 2: and the masterplace, Germany must be on one of these
Speaker 2: specific places. I don't know if there's any like crazy
Speaker 2: magnetic polls that run through Germany or a lay line
Speaker 2: or something like that, but I mean maybe maybe.
Speaker 3: So we're going to actually watch the two videos.
Speaker 2: Okay, good cult members, good cult members for ant of
Speaker 2: you that were alive and playing Xbox and Call of
Speaker 2: Duty Black Ops came out, right. You'll remember the der
Speaker 2: Reese map Nazi Zombies, right, and first one we're gonna
Speaker 2: play here is the commercial associated with them, and the
Speaker 2: next one we're gonna play is actually the backstory to it.
Speaker 2: As far as the video game lore is concerned. But
Speaker 2: now that we know a little bit more about the
Speaker 2: historical precedence to it, I'm very curious what y'all's take
Speaker 2: is going to be as far as this goes. Let's
Speaker 2: watch this together, and for anybody who is just listening,
Speaker 2: once again, you're gonna want to come to patreon dot
Speaker 2: com slash cult a conspiracy podcasts to see these things.
Speaker 2: And for everybody watching it, take a blast to the
Speaker 2: past with me. Won't you remember a time it was
Speaker 2: so much simpler? Xbox three sixty was like all we
Speaker 2: that was the top of the line, right, and there
Speaker 2: was those ones that were saying PlayStation was better whatever,
Speaker 2: and you and your boys would sit there and just
Speaker 2: try to beat your previous score of like and I'm
Speaker 2: very curious all the people that in the comments section,
Speaker 2: let us know what was the highest level you got
Speaker 2: to on Nazi Zombies. I'm curious whether it was yourself
Speaker 2: or with your homeboys. I'm very curious. And also what
Speaker 2: was your favorite packup punched weapon. I would love to
Speaker 2: hear it. Anyway, let's watch this together, good cult members.
Speaker 2: I'm excited. Ah Nostagia, What the hell? What is this place?
Speaker 2: Why does it seem so damn familiar. There is some
Speaker 2: grave evil and disgrace. There's probably vonding switch somewhere.
Speaker 4: As if I was everything feature is very much.
Speaker 2: I love this map so much.
Speaker 4: There you go, Okay, if they come.
Speaker 2: If anybody who's having like flashbacks because of the Nazis
Speaker 2: screams and the zombie screams, yes, yes, And you never
Speaker 2: played this game. I haven't know why.
Speaker 3: I'd never played video games until I was like in
Speaker 3: twenty six.
Speaker 2: This is this is prime nostalgia for a generation. I
Speaker 2: don't know why it keeps glitching like that, but whatever.
Speaker 2: So there was an American, there was a Russian, there
Speaker 2: was a Japanese, and a Nazis.
Speaker 3: And look here it is ye.
Speaker 6: Crazy, yeah, hell yeah, and you would drink these things,
Speaker 6: these uh, these kolas that would give you like power
Speaker 6: ups and speed and everything else.
Speaker 2: This give me such like actual nostalgia to high school.
Speaker 2: That was the pack of punch. You would put in
Speaker 2: a weapon and you would get it out pimped out
Speaker 2: and was shooting lasers. Every weapon was able to be
Speaker 2: pack of punched.
Speaker 3: Nice, it looks fun, Oh it's it's a blast.
Speaker 2: And so every five red levels you would get hell
Speaker 2: hounds that would come out and you would have to
Speaker 2: kill all of them. College card and it was like
Speaker 2: eventually there was there's no beating the game, like you're
Speaker 2: going to die. It's about what level you can get to.
Speaker 3: Santal guesses you never beat it.
Speaker 2: Oh never, no, no, no, there is no beating it. That's
Speaker 2: my knowledge.
Speaker 3: Is it like in Beautiful?
Speaker 2: I don't know. And that's the wonder Walk, which was
Speaker 2: basically you shot and it sent a lightning bolt to
Speaker 2: every zombie that was near you and drop them all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: dese okay, So a lot of things there a lot
Speaker 2: of things on the wall showed X five to five.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there's a lot of references. I'll say that
Speaker 4: they did their homework.
Speaker 2: They did, and so you would unlock new sections of
Speaker 2: the map and every every shot that you would put
Speaker 2: on target would give you like ten points. Right. There
Speaker 2: was these windows that you would like rebuild and like
Speaker 2: the Nazi would rip down a board and they would
Speaker 2: like when they had like five or six boards per window,
Speaker 2: they would rip it down and then you would have
Speaker 2: to rebuild it. And if you would rebuild it, that
Speaker 2: would also give you money, and so you would use
Speaker 2: this to buy weapons. You would use it to unlock
Speaker 2: new sections of the map, whatever the case is. And
Speaker 2: you know, you would unlock the pack a punch and
Speaker 2: you would go to the mystery box and that's when
Speaker 2: you would get better weapons. There was weapons on the
Speaker 2: wall you could buy, or you would go to those
Speaker 2: mystery box and basically it would give you anything from
Speaker 2: a ray gun which was excellent, the wonderwall, machine guns, whatever,
Speaker 2: and uh. It would go for so long and then
Speaker 2: eventually there was like five or six locations that the
Speaker 2: box would spawn at and as the game went on,
Speaker 2: you had to find where the box was at. You
Speaker 2: would find choke points where you and your your co
Speaker 2: players would pretty much line up and just stack three
Speaker 2: machine guns like I'd be firing, my homeboy'd be like
Speaker 2: I'd be in the prone he'd be standing, and we
Speaker 2: just lay out these zombies. They came down this hallway
Speaker 2: and just rack up points. But you always needed a
Speaker 2: way out and sometimes you would screw yourself in, like
Speaker 2: corner yourself and it was yeah, it was ah, it
Speaker 2: was amazing. I'm sorry, I'm geeking out a bit.
Speaker 3: Because it sounds like totally going down the geek. That's sign.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna understand why after we've watched this.
Speaker 4: I feel that way though about Gears of War truly,
Speaker 4: and I also feel I really love Left for Dead
Speaker 4: for Dead too, what's that one? Zombie Island one. There's
Speaker 4: there's a handful of games that like are really well
Speaker 4: I got into playing, but other than that, I've never
Speaker 4: been a big video gamer. I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 4: it wasn't a thing that I grew up with. I
Speaker 4: saw people play it, and I'm gonna be really honest
Speaker 4: with you. At that time, I'm way more into doing
Speaker 4: things like I was, you know, doing truck stuff.
Speaker 3: I was doing car stuff. I was, Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 3: I mean the boys always were playing all the games.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest. I was out doing doing things.
Speaker 4: I was going, you know, I was out partying. I
Speaker 4: was out playing games.
Speaker 3: You know were doing that.
Speaker 2: We were doing that too. It's about having that work
Speaker 2: life balance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I worked a lot, and then it
Speaker 4: just wasn't something I was ever into. I don't like
Speaker 4: to sit still that long, so it's I get bored
Speaker 4: quickly and I'm like, okay, I'm done.
Speaker 3: But I will read a book through and through, So.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, getting drunk in your barracks room and
Speaker 2: just playing this all night is a really safe way
Speaker 2: to stay out of an m JP.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say though that you guys ever remember Russian
Speaker 4: Roulette the you could like log on and it would
Speaker 4: Rushian Roulette people. They still have it around, but you
Speaker 4: So we discovered that, we discovered this.
Speaker 2: Ohte No, we did that, always stroking it like every
Speaker 2: third one.
Speaker 3: We didn't have a ton of that.
Speaker 4: We will because we were received so we got mainly
Speaker 4: overseas people.
Speaker 2: So Japanese like us.
Speaker 4: No, we had just a lot of people doing and
Speaker 4: really random stuff. We had people from the States and whatever,
Speaker 4: but we would get drunk and do this. We discovered
Speaker 4: it when Buddy discovered and he was like, look at
Speaker 4: this weird shit, let's look at it. Yeah, and so
Speaker 4: but then I also he started an alien movie situation
Speaker 4: that was like a nerdy thing. So a lot of
Speaker 4: people played D and D. A lot of people were like,
Speaker 4: really nerdy stuff.
Speaker 2: Us for playing Nazis.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't have I never shit on you,
Speaker 3: I just I never.
Speaker 4: I really enjoy strategic games, like not video games, but
Speaker 4: stuff like that. I will say that rategy I liked
Speaker 4: seeing I mean, yeah, I guess, but I really like
Speaker 4: Gears of War. I will say that I got really
Speaker 4: addicted to Gears of War and.
Speaker 2: Solid Borderlands of Solid, Battlefield of Solid.
Speaker 4: And this was Call of Duty, and I mean call
Speaker 4: of duty. I just my ex never played it. And honestly,
Speaker 4: I am terrible at trying to play video games alone,
Speaker 4: like absolutely, like I'm a peasant.
Speaker 3: I'm a I cannot do it. I don't.
Speaker 4: My kids are like, God, you're suck at this, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, I really don't know how to do
Speaker 4: video games alone because I never know where to go
Speaker 4: or what to do.
Speaker 3: I'm just lost in the sauce.
Speaker 4: And my children are way better at this, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I'd rather go read a book.
Speaker 3: God, SI, go do something else.
Speaker 2: Okay. So with that, and with all the historical background
Speaker 2: that we know about this project, the now stories of zombies,
Speaker 2: so this is only going to be about six minutes long.
Speaker 2: AO cult members and for anybody who remembers the Nazi
Speaker 2: zombies and all these things. I didn't realize the connections
Speaker 2: and the storyline behind the lore. Now that we know
Speaker 2: certain historical things about it, and also some of the
Speaker 2: mythical and legend things about it and the game itself.
Speaker 2: This is also going to be an interesting tie in.
Speaker 2: Let's learn about all of this together, y'all really begins.
Speaker 5: The association known as Group nine thirty five used this
Speaker 5: facility to study the newly discovered element one one five,
Speaker 5: also known as ethereum. Doctor Ludwig max has founded this
Speaker 5: secret group hoping to improve the human condition. He begins
Speaker 5: working on a teleporter prototype called the MTD or Matter
Speaker 5: Transference device. To help him in this goal, he initiates
Speaker 5: a young, but brilliant scientist named Edward Richtoffen into Group
Speaker 5: nine three five. Edward was no stranger to secret groups,
Speaker 5: he himself was a member of the Illuminati. Edward agrees
Speaker 5: to join Maxis, but does so in the interests of
Speaker 5: the Illuminati. The two begin teleportation test trials, but their
Speaker 5: test subjects do not survive the experiments. They are able
Speaker 5: to initiate teleportation. However, following the teleportation, the subject would
Speaker 5: become catatonic and changed at the cellular level. Using Element
Speaker 5: one one five, they are able to resurrect one of
Speaker 5: these Feld test subjects, creating the first zombie. This first
Speaker 5: zombie was initially obedient, but soon becomes rabid and has
Speaker 5: to be destroyed. During this time, Richtoffin develops the Vunderwaffe
Speaker 5: DG two. Maxis promises Richxoffen he will begin mass production
Speaker 5: of this wonder weapon. Seeing the potential for element one
Speaker 5: one five, but lacking funds to continue research, Maxis turns
Speaker 5: to the German political leaders for aid. They offer to
Speaker 5: fund Group nine three five in exchange for their wonder
Speaker 5: weapons and a zombie army. Rick Totoffen continues to work
Speaker 5: on the teleportation and is able to teleport al Walna
Speaker 5: without any cellular damage. Maxis is not impressed and informs
Speaker 5: Rick d that they are now to be funded by Germany.
Speaker 5: Richtoffen is enraged by this news. He fears that many
Speaker 5: scientists will defect from Group nine through five. Because of this,
Speaker 5: Ricktoffen begins to work behind the back of doctor Maxis.
Speaker 5: He hides his research from his mentor. Doctor Richtoffen and
Speaker 5: his assistant continue to work on the teleportation research. Richtoffen
Speaker 5: is so confident in their work that he volunteers to
Speaker 5: test out the device for himself. Richtoffen activates the teleporter
Speaker 5: and is shocked to find himself inside a sealed chamber
Speaker 5: on the Moon. Inside this chamber, he finds a metallic pyramid.
Speaker 5: This device is called the MPD or Moon Pyramid Device.
Speaker 5: As Richtoffen touches the device, he is shocked and begins
Speaker 5: to hear evil voices inside his head. He is corrupted
Speaker 5: and begins to go mad with the thought of finding
Speaker 5: a place called Agartha. The device then sends Richtoffen to
Speaker 5: Shangri Law. While here he encounters an artifact called the
Speaker 5: Focusing Stone. The local people worship him as a god
Speaker 5: and build an altar in his name. Richtoffen then begins
Speaker 5: a month long journey back to Derese. Upon his arrival,
Speaker 5: he informs his assistant, doctor Schuster, of his intentions to
Speaker 5: build a secret group nine through five outpost on the
Speaker 5: Moon is Old. Only goal is to return to the
Speaker 5: Moon and use the MPD to reach Agartha. They start
Speaker 5: building what is later known as Griffin's Station. All the
Speaker 5: while Rick Tooffin continues his charade with Maxis for years.
Speaker 5: During this time, Maxis surprises his daughter Samantha with a
Speaker 5: dog named Fluffy. Maxis also develops a raygun prototype while
Speaker 5: at the Rising Sun Facility. Following this, discovery, Maxis departs
Speaker 5: to the Kino Facility. He leaves Samantha in the care
Speaker 5: of doctor Rixtoffin. Richtoffin travels to a research facility in Siberia. Here,
Speaker 5: at the Siberia Facility, Richtoffen conducts Element one one five
Speaker 5: experiments on the Mexican test subject Pablo Marinus Dempsey, Takio
Speaker 5: Nikolaid and Samantha. Rixoffen receives word that the Moon base
Speaker 5: is completed and the MTD is open and ready for him. Meanwhile,
Speaker 5: at the Kino facility, Maxis feels that he has nearly
Speaker 5: perfected the zombie Army. He returns to Derese to resume
Speaker 5: his work on the teleportation test trials. He sends word
Speaker 5: for Richtoffen to join him. Rick Tooffen places his three
Speaker 5: remaining test subjects inside cryogenic chambers. He brings them, along
Speaker 5: with Samantha, back to Derese. Rixoffen is enraged to learn
Speaker 5: that Maxis has not mass produced the DG two as
Speaker 5: he said he would. All the anger and resentment between
Speaker 5: the two climaxis. On October thirteenth, nineteen forty five, the
Speaker 5: two doctors are continuing on the teleporter test trials. Maxis,
Speaker 5: being frustrated at yet another failed test, uses his daughter's dog,
Speaker 5: Fluffy as his latest victim. To his surprise, Fluffy does
Speaker 5: not immediately return as the others did. Finally seeing success,
Speaker 5: Maxis initiates another test trial. It is at this time
Speaker 5: that Fluffy returns. The dog had indeed returned, but now
Speaker 5: she is changed and dangerous. Samantha witnesses her dog inside
Speaker 5: the chamber and rushes inside to check on her. Maxis
Speaker 5: chases after Samantha. Richtoffen finally seeing his chance, seals them
Speaker 5: inside the chamber and laughing maniacally activates the device. Samantha
Speaker 5: is sent to Griffin Station on the Moon. She tries
Speaker 5: to escape Richdoffin's men and is drawn inside the pyramid.
Speaker 5: The device closes, sealing her inside. Maxis is sent to
Speaker 5: another location called the Crazy Place. Here he develops the
Speaker 5: power to merge with electricity. Ricktoffin teleports to the Moon facility,
Speaker 5: ready to finally receive his prize. He is furious to
Speaker 5: learn that Samantha had entered the device before him. He
Speaker 5: uses the power of the MPD to transport Maxis to
Speaker 5: the Moon base, hoping he could coax her out of
Speaker 5: the device, Samantha hears the voice of her father and
Speaker 5: exits the Dark Pyramid. As she leaves the MPD, Maxis
Speaker 5: instructs his daughter to get revenge on those who had
Speaker 5: betrayed him. Now in control of the undead, Samantha unleashes
Speaker 5: them upon her enemies. Richtoffen escapes the horrors on the Moon,
Speaker 5: only to find more undead waiting for him at Derese.
Speaker 5: Richdoffen is forced to awaken the test subjects to fight
Speaker 5: by his side. They have all been over exposed to
Speaker 5: element one one five and have no recollection of Richtoffen
Speaker 5: or his terrible experiments. This newly formed group is called
Speaker 5: the Ultimus Crew. Unsure of how to proceed from here,
Speaker 5: Richtoffin leads the crew to the Rising Sun Facility to
Speaker 5: find his old diary. The crew finds more zombies at
Speaker 5: this location, along with a new terror, the Hellhounds. These
Speaker 5: are the spawn of Fluffy, who was corrupted and now
Speaker 5: fetches souls for Samantha. Upon reading his diary, Richtoffin forms
Speaker 5: a new plan to defeat Samantha. They return to the
Speaker 5: Giant Facility and gear up for the confrontation awaiting them
Speaker 5: on the Moon. They secure weapons and use the newly
Speaker 5: minted pack upon machine to increase their firepower. The crew
Speaker 5: gather on the teleporter platform ready to confront Samantha. As
Speaker 5: they activate the teleporter, the Vunderwaffa DG two overloads the
Speaker 5: teleporter and sends the crew through space and time. This
Speaker 5: marks the end of World at War Zombies and the
Speaker 5: beginning of Black Ops one Zombies. They arrived eighteen years
Speaker 5: in the future, finding themselves inside an abandoned theater known
Speaker 5: as Keino Dirtotin. And that, my friends, is the story
Speaker 5: of Dees.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, a lot of to unpacked there, and if
Speaker 2: you've never played the game, a lot it's gonna be
Speaker 2: lost on you. But for any of the good cult
Speaker 2: members out there that played, that is the origin story
Speaker 2: for the hell Hounds. That is why there's a teddy
Speaker 2: bear and the little girl laughing in the background. We
Speaker 2: all thought it was just to be creepy and add
Speaker 2: to the ooh ah of it being zombies and being
Speaker 2: super dark and creepy. No, that is the laugh of Samantha.
Speaker 2: And that is how Dempsey Nikolai, how all of these
Speaker 2: dudes got together like and we even thought it was
Speaker 2: because it's a World War two game, so obviously you're
Speaker 2: gonna have a German American, a Japanese dude, and a
Speaker 2: knots or a Russian and this would just kind of
Speaker 2: be your four main archetypes. Apparently there was a whole
Speaker 2: lot more to the story that we were just not
Speaker 2: privy to in these days. But the more you know
Speaker 2: good cult members, the more you know. Anyway, all right,
Speaker 2: just wanted to give that a little disclaimer in the
Speaker 2: little eight D break.
Speaker 4: Definitely, it definitely was interesting how it tied in in
Speaker 4: all the different aspects.
Speaker 2: I was thinking the moon base, the teleportation possibility, time
Speaker 2: and space possibility they brought up, not directly, but zerom.
Speaker 3: Yes they did.
Speaker 2: Wow, they did their homework.
Speaker 4: They didn't do their homework. Back to the original article
Speaker 4: that we are on. Yeah, so we're going to read
Speaker 4: a couple more things about this as a human costs
Speaker 4: and the deadly effects of it. And this is kind
Speaker 4: of where we talked about earlier, you know, where plants
Speaker 4: and animals potentially had their faces melted off.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it here. So again back to DEGLOCKI
Speaker 2: or diglock. Among the most disturbing aspects of diclock legend,
Speaker 2: are the claims about its effects on living organisms. When activated,
Speaker 2: the device allegedly created a zone of harmful influence extending
Speaker 2: five hundred to six hundred and fifty feet in all directions.
Speaker 2: Within the zone, plant matter would reportedly decompose into a blackish,
Speaker 2: grease like substance. Animals exposed to the device's effects supposedly
Speaker 2: suffered from disruption to cellular functions, with blood congealing and
Speaker 2: separating cool. Human casualties included both scientists and forced laborers.
Speaker 2: According to the legend, five of the seven scientists initially
Speaker 2: working on the project dive from exposure to the device's effects.
Speaker 2: S S General Hans Kamler, allegedly in charge of the project,
Speaker 2: is said to have ordered the execution of sixty scientists
Speaker 2: and engineers associated with DEGLOCKI to prevent knowledge of the
Speaker 2: technology from spreading and dream measure. Even by Nazi standards,
Speaker 2: these accounts paint a picture of a highly unstable, poorly
Speaker 2: understood technology with devastating biological effects. With such claims add
Speaker 2: a sinister dimension to the narrative, They also lack cooperation
Speaker 2: from medical records, all topsy reports, or other documentation that
Speaker 2: would typically exist even for classified projects that. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you killed sixty of your top scientists, I feel
Speaker 2: like you wouldn't write about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean he also like kind of
Speaker 4: psycho and in complete asshole.
Speaker 2: So yeah. So next up would be the Great Disappearing Act.
Speaker 2: As the war drew to a close in early nineteen
Speaker 2: forty five, the Digloque story takes another dramatic turn. Both
Speaker 2: the device itself and the key personnel supposedly vanished without
Speaker 2: a trace. The central figure to the disappearance was SS
Speaker 2: General Hans Kamler, who oversaw many of Nazi Germany's secret
Speaker 2: weapons programs, including the V two rocket proglam program. Rather,
Speaker 2: Kamdler's fate is a genuine historical mystery. He was last
Speaker 2: seen in Prague on April seventeenth, nineteen forty five, and
Speaker 2: then seemingly vanished. Various accounts claim he committed suicide, was
Speaker 2: killed in action, or escaped, potentially to the United States.
Speaker 2: This real world disappearance of a high ranking SS officer
Speaker 2: provides convenience scaffoting for the DIEGLOCKI theories. So what happened
Speaker 2: to diglock itself? Theories abound. The first scenario suggests the
Speaker 2: device was moved to a secure location in Norway, A
Speaker 2: claim allegedly from SS officer calls Spurremberg's testimony again real
Speaker 2: Nazi dude, You could check him out. A second theory
Speaker 2: places Diglock aboard a German submarine bound for Japan or Antarctica,
Speaker 2: where the Nazis had supposedly established secret bases, a claim
Speaker 2: that ventures deep into conspiracy territory. I mean that being said,
Speaker 2: it's not a secret that they had Antarctic basis, so
Speaker 2: like could be definitely could it?
Speaker 3: Definitely could be.
Speaker 2: Perhaps the most popular theory in American conspiracy circles is
Speaker 2: that Diglock was acquired by the United States through Operation Paperclip,
Speaker 2: the real post war program that recruited German scientists for
Speaker 2: American research projects. In this telling, Candler traded the technology
Speaker 2: to the Americans in exchange for his freedom, explaining both
Speaker 2: his disappearance and the alleged secret US anti gravity research
Speaker 2: programs that followed. This last theory gained additional fuel from
Speaker 2: the incident in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, on December ninth, nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 2: residents reportedly seeing a fireball in the sky, followed by
Speaker 2: the discovery of an acorn or bell shaped object in
Speaker 2: the woods. The military quickly cordoned off the area and
Speaker 2: allegedly removed an object under a tarp. UFO researchers later
Speaker 2: connected this incident to Diekelock, suggesting it was a crash
Speaker 2: test of the recovered Nazi tech, which I mean, it's possible.
Speaker 2: The US government initially attributed a tribute to Kecksburg incident
Speaker 2: to a fallen Soviet satellite, then later revised this to
Speaker 2: a media or inconsistencies that conspiracy theorists view as evidence
Speaker 2: of a cover up rather than bureaucratit confusion. Well, obviously, yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, kidding.
Speaker 2: The narrative goes from oh, it's just a Russian satellite
Speaker 2: that fell to No, it's just a meteor. Y'all don't
Speaker 2: even know what you saw. Shut up.
Speaker 3: I love the government. They're just like, no, that's not
Speaker 3: that's not it.
Speaker 2: It's bould claim.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna kind of look at really quick while
Speaker 4: we've talked about him for a second. So he is
Speaker 4: brought up a ton, So where Kamlor Kamler is brought
Speaker 4: up a bunch, And I don't want to spend like
Speaker 4: a ton of time on him, because this is actually
Speaker 4: quite a lengthy article. This is also on the warhistory
Speaker 4: dot org, and this talks about just him overall. I mean,
Speaker 4: we don't really have to go deep into this guy,
Speaker 4: but he is just an interesting human being. I'll say
Speaker 4: that he personally supervised the construction of Ashwitz satellite Camp.
Speaker 3: He oversaw all of a lot of the camps.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know if you wanted to kind of
Speaker 4: touch on him, but yeah, he's so. He actually was
Speaker 4: appointed as a special commissioner for the V two program
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to actually start there. So the officer
Speaker 2: in question himself here, Kamler was entrusted with running the
Speaker 2: V weapons projects from its inception. Probably the most extraordinary
Speaker 2: and enigmatic figure among the latter day Nazi hierarchy was
Speaker 2: SS General doctor Hans Kimler. He was a great career
Speaker 2: man who has seen no fighting at the front. As
Speaker 2: Engineer in charge of Building and construction works, the SS
Speaker 2: chief Economic and Administrative Officer, and in nineteen forty two,
Speaker 2: Kammler had responsibility for the planning and design of a
Speaker 2: number of death camps and had personally supervised the construction
Speaker 2: of out Schwitz the I'm sorry, the construction of the
Speaker 2: Auschwitz satellite camp at Burkeanal, which if you've heard of Auschwitz,
Speaker 2: you've probably heard of burkenhow as well, they were kind
Speaker 2: of a sister camps. He oversaw the construction of that specifically.
Speaker 2: But anyway, moving on July of nineteen forty three, Hitler
Speaker 2: informed Warner von Braun and Oberst doctor Walter Dornberger, senior
Speaker 2: rocket scientists at the pen mund Research Establishment, that the
Speaker 2: V two project had been given to the highest priority
Speaker 2: rating on the later that was on the seventh of July.
Speaker 2: On the twenty second of July of that year, just
Speaker 2: a few weeks later, after the destruction by bombing of
Speaker 2: rocket components plant in Frederick, Schaff and the SS had
Speaker 2: begun looking for an underground factory that had found a
Speaker 2: suitable location at Niederschaffer worshen Sure near Northausen Jesus, the
Speaker 2: largest subterranean factory in the war. On August seventeenth, large
Speaker 2: force of British aircraft bombed Pina Munde. The material damage
Speaker 2: was not extensive and more than eighty percent of the
Speaker 2: bombs fell on open land and in nearby woods. Okay,
Speaker 2: So anyway, moving on to this, on September one, nineteen
Speaker 2: forty three, Hans Kammler was promoted to SS Groupenfurer, which
Speaker 2: is basically like top dude in charge, and appointed special
Speaker 2: commissioner for the V two project. He recruited two thousand
Speaker 2: engineers and drew fifteen thousand concentration camp inmates from Birkenhal
Speaker 2: and Nileswaller three for the conversion work at the former
Speaker 2: WIFO factory now renamed Nordhausen Central Works and also SS
Speaker 2: mittenw mittal work, the later by reason of its geographical
Speaker 2: position at the center of Germany wow okay So, during
Speaker 2: the first weeks of March nineteen forty four, Kammler was
Speaker 2: given overall responsibility for underground construction and now had one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five thousand concentration camp inmates under his control.
Speaker 2: As s S Special Staff known as Balpero. Doctor Hans
Speaker 2: Kommler became directly answerable to Himmler not only for the production, completion,
Speaker 2: storage and supply of V weapon armaments, but also for
Speaker 2: building a number of massive underground weapons factories the size
Speaker 2: of small metropolises, such as courts at Milk Austria, Zimeitt
Speaker 2: one and two and EBENIZEB and C okay and forty four.
Speaker 2: Himler appointed Commler as General Plentipontieri for V two Assembly
Speaker 2: and C and CV two operations, which had previously been
Speaker 2: under the jurisdiction of the sixty fifth Army Corps. His leerhun,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pronounce that shit got off to an
Speaker 2: inauspicious start with the first V two rockets of the campaign,
Speaker 2: aimed at Paris, both failed due to a fuel blockage.
Speaker 2: Interesting after shifting location but with the same target, a
Speaker 2: successful launch was achieved on September eighth. The same day,
Speaker 2: artillery Detachment for eight to five obtained a hit at Shissiwick,
Speaker 2: London from the Hague On. From August nineteen forty four
Speaker 2: until the conclusion of the Ardennes offensive, in addition of
Speaker 2: V one m V two, Commler oversaw the operational deployment
Speaker 2: of the V three high pressure pump and was present
Speaker 2: to observe the first rounds being fired on Luxembourg City
Speaker 2: on the thirtieth of December nineteen forty four. So again,
Speaker 2: this dude was an absolute like he was sitting like
Speaker 2: the realm of conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: No, he hated people. Yeah, like everybody. He just hated everybody.
Speaker 2: So he never saw fighting at the front, that's for
Speaker 2: damn sure. But he was definitely a Nazi top dog
Speaker 2: and he was a true believer in the cause. For
Speaker 2: lack of better words, continuing on, it says doctor Warner
Speaker 2: Vallon Braun was told by Kammler that he Commler had
Speaker 2: been made head of the fighter plane staff and had
Speaker 2: to report to another place. On the seventh of April
Speaker 2: nineteen forty five, Kalmler was seen lee being mental work
Speaker 2: toward the western Hars with a section of his general
Speaker 2: staff and apart from a cable to Himmler sent from
Speaker 2: a village called Deggendorf, confirming his continuing loyalty to Hitler.
Speaker 2: Ten days later, that was the last herd of any
Speaker 2: of them. Wow. So he took his team and disappeared
Speaker 2: off into the high mountains. And that's the last name
Speaker 2: I ever heard. Kermler knew virtually everything about the weapons
Speaker 2: operational program. His whereabouts after early April nineteen forty five
Speaker 2: are unknown. There are reports of his death and action
Speaker 2: defending the check Front against the Soviet Army, and the
Speaker 2: latter gave short shrift to capture SS men I have
Speaker 2: a hard time believing he gave his life defending it
Speaker 2: when he never served on a frontline unit.
Speaker 4: I actually do believe that random theory of him being
Speaker 4: the person that has been working on this the whole time.
Speaker 4: I think that they were able to that his fail
Speaker 4: safe program, or he was smart enough to piece it,
Speaker 4: have it pieced apart, take all the scientists that he needed,
Speaker 4: and dip the hell out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, why not? Right?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 4: And if this is just one of the facilities that
Speaker 4: was being built underground, and we know that there's more places,
Speaker 4: what if one of them was missed? What if one
Speaker 4: of them was so cleverly done that they missed it
Speaker 4: kind of like a vault, like a v vault, It's
Speaker 4: very possible.
Speaker 2: So, continuing a recent book by Nick Cook, we talked
Speaker 2: about this earlier, it proposed to that Commler and negotiate
Speaker 2: a deal for himself at the United States in exchange
Speaker 2: for Germany's anti gravity technology. What evidence there is suggests
Speaker 2: that this was not the case. Well, there's no real
Speaker 2: evidence one way or another. That's the thing. Borman's nineteen
Speaker 2: forty four General Plan of Evacuation was drawn up to
Speaker 2: safeguard the more advanced technological knowledge. By having people like
Speaker 2: Kammler brought out of Europe before the capitulation, one must
Speaker 2: not lose sight of the fact that at the end
Speaker 2: of the war there was a huge inflames of Reich
Speaker 2: money and scientific personnel into Argentina and Chile, where deep
Speaker 2: below ground, perhaps some of the more important work was continued.
Speaker 2: Mister Cook's line of argument is based on documents circulated
Speaker 2: by the Polish author Igor Witowski, which we talked about earlier.
Speaker 2: With Kowski, this bulletin definitely states that the equipment at
Speaker 2: FHQ Waldenburg was evacuated in April and May of nineteen
Speaker 2: forty five, probably to South America by Jacob Sporenberg. And
Speaker 2: remember we heard a direct quote from Sporreenberg talking about
Speaker 2: the underground facilities and how he was pissed that was
Speaker 2: using so much resources and money on those exact locations.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 4: So by his accounts, maybe they were being built someplace
Speaker 4: else and he wanted to ship more resources to those locations.
Speaker 2: Maybe it would be in South America that the designer
Speaker 2: slash builder of Auschwitz and other death camps might have
Speaker 2: felt more comfortable in his for his own peace of
Speaker 2: mind than relying on a deal with the United States.
Speaker 2: One would also think it's safe to assume that the
Speaker 2: US Air Force had been able to make head or
Speaker 2: tail of German anti gravity, they would not have bothered
Speaker 2: with the same old rocket propulsion methods at Cape Kennedy
Speaker 2: three decades afterwards.
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, As Russia built an anti gravity
Speaker 4: device in nineteen ninety two, we built one in nineteen nineties,
Speaker 4: Like this is this is not unheard of, right, Like
Speaker 4: these things actually exist.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they were successful. I know
Speaker 2: they attempted. I know we've attempted, and I guess that
Speaker 2: depends on the report that you look into.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was different reports, some saying that yes, it
Speaker 4: was successful, some saying that no, it wasn't at all.
Speaker 4: And then there's like actual ones floating around that maybe
Speaker 4: potentially this happened somewhere, but we aren't sure, so it's
Speaker 4: just a guess.
Speaker 3: It's a hypothetical.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it goes into this guy, and it goes
Speaker 4: into his whole life and all of these things and
Speaker 4: what he did and how fucking evil this bastard is,
Speaker 4: Like he was horrible, but I think he's actually I
Speaker 4: think he put it together. I think it actually happened
Speaker 4: at some point. I mean, why not, I know, seriously,
Speaker 4: at this point, why not. So we're going to go
Speaker 4: back to the other article and you can read more
Speaker 4: into this guy later on and stuff like that. But
Speaker 4: so pretty much we're going to talk about the rest
Speaker 4: of the article of uh, you know, the great analysis
Speaker 4: of skepticism when it comes to this, and you know,
Speaker 4: really kind of go into it, and then we're going
Speaker 4: to touch before we wrap it all up, we're going
Speaker 4: to actually talk about the UFO situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, So continuing here the case for
Speaker 2: the skepticism out there. When examining the Diglock story through
Speaker 2: a critical le several significant problems emerged that undermine its
Speaker 2: historical credibility. First and fundamentally, there's a striking lack of
Speaker 2: primary source documentation. No blueprints, photographs, test records, or direct
Speaker 2: witness testimonies have surfaced in nearly eighty years since the
Speaker 2: war ended. While Nazi Germany was meticulous in documenting its projects,
Speaker 2: even the most secret ones, Divelock seems to have left
Speaker 2: no paper trail beyond with Tawski's alleged and unverifiable interrogation transcripts.
Speaker 2: The technological capabilities attributed to Diglock also strained scientific credit credulity.
Speaker 3: Credit, it's a weird word, credibility.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you go that route? Right?
Speaker 3: I don't know, We're just going to go credibility. Fuck it.
Speaker 2: Anti gravity technology remains theoretical even today, despite decades of
Speaker 2: research and technological advancements. Time manipulation is even further removed
Speaker 2: from current scientific capabilities. The idea that Nazi Germany achieved
Speaker 2: these breakthroughs in the nineteen forties while struggling to match
Speaker 2: Allied advancements in other areas requires extraordinary evidence that simply
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Moreover, the scientific minds who would have been
Speaker 2: crucial to such revolutionary project, like physicists of Heisenberg who
Speaker 2: led the German nuclear program, were extensively debriefed by Allied
Speaker 2: intelligence after the war. None mentioned anything resembling Diglock in
Speaker 2: their interrogations or subsequent memoirs. The most compelling argument against
Speaker 2: Digloq's existence may be the simplest. If the Nazis had
Speaker 2: developed such revolutionary technology, why didn't they use it to
Speaker 2: prevent their defeat? A functioning anti gravity device or time
Speaker 2: machine would have been deployed immediately, regardless of the developmental status,
Speaker 2: given the desperate situation in nineteen forty four to nineteen
Speaker 2: forty five. There's a direct quote here from David Murra
Speaker 2: aerospace scientists. If anti gravity devices actually existed, the Germans,
Speaker 2: desperate to stop the Allies advance, would have used them.
Speaker 2: Even if we accept that Diglock was captured by the Americans,
Speaker 2: the lack of subsequent technological breakthroughs points to its non existence.
Speaker 2: I gotta say that's a bit misleading. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, America had tons of crazy technological breakthroughs immediately
Speaker 2: after World War Two because of the Nazi scientists and
Speaker 2: because of Project paper Clips. So that's a bit of
Speaker 2: a misnumber. But all right, Sure, if the US military
Speaker 2: had acquired working anti gravity technology in nineteen forty five,
Speaker 2: why would they still be using conventional rocket propulsion for
Speaker 2: the space program in the nineteen sixties. Well, again, as
Speaker 2: I said, anti gravity does not mean gravity repulsing, think hovering,
Speaker 2: not jet setting off. So just to work clear, the
Speaker 2: continued use of expensive, dangerous chemical rockets makes little sense
Speaker 2: if alternate technology was available. As for the Kesburg incident,
Speaker 2: NASA's explanation of a meteor, while inconsistent with earlier statements,
Speaker 2: as far more plausible than a crash Nazi time machine.
Speaker 2: So okay, their first story that it was a Soviet
Speaker 2: satellite wasn't plausible enough, So then it's a meteor. So
Speaker 2: that's plausible, But that's not as plausible as a Nazi
Speaker 2: time machine. When's the last time we had a Soviet
Speaker 2: satellite crash on US soil? I don't know, never that,
Speaker 2: not one time, so but sure, So that's that's why
Speaker 2: this is more applausible. I suppose the bell shape described
Speaker 2: by witnesses could easily be the result of suggestion or
Speaker 2: misinterpretation of a partition a partially buried metallic object. Yeah, okay, dude,
Speaker 2: all right, so now we're actually gonna shift over to
Speaker 2: this other article from UFO Insight. It's talking about the
Speaker 2: Kesburg UFO crash and the Nazi bell. Is there a connection?
Speaker 2: It's pretty well established that the Nazis had a fascination
Speaker 2: with the occult and extraterrestrial technology. The fact that they
Speaker 2: were so far ahead has made many researchers ponder if
Speaker 2: they might have had such success. There are certainly many
Speaker 2: top secret Nazi programs greatly ahead of their time. Very true.
Speaker 2: There is even a possible connection between one of the
Speaker 2: most secretive Nazi projects and a mysterious UFO crash in
Speaker 2: an otherwise sleepy town in the United States. Some two
Speaker 2: decades later. The Kexburg UFO crash is officially quote unquote
Speaker 2: nothing according to investigations. Despite a wealth of witnesses, it
Speaker 2: was largely lost to time until the release of a
Speaker 2: book and on a secret Nazi project in two thousand,
Speaker 2: which we talked about the Polish writer on this. So
Speaker 2: here's the two pictures on screen right now. This is
Speaker 2: the Nazi bell, the diaglock. Right this is the Kesburg
Speaker 2: acorn that was seen and depicted by many eyewitnesses whose
Speaker 2: testimonies all line up. Now, I'm not saying this is
Speaker 2: a one to one comparison. I am saying that.
Speaker 3: They look really similar.
Speaker 2: They look real similar, right, perhaps.
Speaker 3: Similar in some weird ass writing on both of them.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, there.
Speaker 2: Is there, very much is. But then also, is it
Speaker 2: possible that this might be a version one point zero,
Speaker 2: a version two point zero.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be, you know, it could be that
Speaker 4: old boy when he took the scientist that this is
Speaker 4: the actual finalized version, or this is just one version
Speaker 4: in the multitude of them that they've been trying to
Speaker 4: make sure that it actually worked.
Speaker 2: And they're a route the same size too.
Speaker 3: They're about the same size.
Speaker 4: They're not one hundred percent of the same shape, right,
Speaker 4: But I find it interesting that both of them have
Speaker 4: this weird ass riding around the same area, and that
Speaker 4: it's kind of similar with the tops as well. And
Speaker 4: maybe they needed to have a dome to keep everything inside.
Speaker 4: Maybe that helps conduct the energy better. Maybe I don't know, emmaculation. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's read in and see what they got here.
Speaker 2: Based on leaked Nazi documents from the Second World War,
Speaker 2: a link with Dieglock and Kesburg came to light. Divelock
Speaker 2: or the Nazi Bell appeared to be one of the
Speaker 2: Third Reichsmoke's ambitious projects. Before we look into the Nazi
Speaker 2: Bell hoe, we'll first look into the events on a
Speaker 2: winter's evening in Pennsylvania. So let's let's take a little
Speaker 2: trip to the past here. Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, December ninth, nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty five, on the night of December or out of
Speaker 2: the December night sky, overlooking the small town of Kesburg, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: came a screeching ball of light. The object appeared to
Speaker 2: move radically as it fell to the earth, and not
Speaker 2: in the fashion of a meteorite. As it met the ground,
Speaker 2: the contact would be would sound throughout the entire town.
Speaker 2: Within minutes of the apparent crash, residents of Kecksburg Volunteer
Speaker 2: Fire Service were at the site. A strange acorn shaped
Speaker 2: object about the size of a small car, sat in
Speaker 2: a small clearing in the woodland. Around its base were
Speaker 2: symbols that resembled ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. Now pause, just because
Speaker 2: of the language that you don't understand, doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: obviously ancient Egyptian.
Speaker 4: But I could see what they had pictures though, like
Speaker 4: it had pictures of symbols. Then potentially see it because
Speaker 4: it shows certain symbols that were found on both of them.
Speaker 2: So these this is a list down at the bottom here. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean that's.
Speaker 4: But how do you know though, because they had no
Speaker 4: documentation of what it looked like, So how would you
Speaker 4: know realistically what was on both unless there is documentation
Speaker 4: and that they have and they're like, hmm, they kind
Speaker 4: of look similar.
Speaker 2: Possibly the time residents had gathered themselves, a huge military
Speaker 2: presence suddenly descended on the scene. They wasted little time
Speaker 2: in taking control, ushering people away, and assuring them quote
Speaker 2: they had seen nothing. Essentially forgotten about the encounter. Uh okay.
Speaker 2: A short while after sealing off the area, right, you
Speaker 2: ain't seen nothing, man, I just forgot.
Speaker 3: That's a giant alien in there. You don't see that.
Speaker 3: That's nothing. That's a tree. That's a tree.
Speaker 2: You're right, mister government person. I didn't see the thing.
Speaker 2: I just saw. I'm gonna go home and go.
Speaker 3: To sleep, now, you know, go home, homes.
Speaker 2: A short while after sealing off the area came an
Speaker 2: official announcement that a search had revealed nothing to report.
Speaker 2: Of course, the local newspaper, who had announced that an
Speaker 2: object crash in the woods, retracted their story the following day.
Speaker 2: Some people continue to speak out about what they had seen, however,
Speaker 2: including that the military had removed quote an acorn shaped
Speaker 2: object on the back of an army truck. The Tragic
Speaker 2: tale of John Murphy. One of the town's residents who
Speaker 2: would take a particularly strong stance against the official narrative
Speaker 2: was John Murphy, a news reporter and radio host for
Speaker 2: WHJB Radio. He was on the scene the night of
Speaker 2: the crash and managed to speak with several witnesses. He'd
Speaker 2: also managed to snap several photographs of the down object
Speaker 2: in the woods before they became off limits. Despite the
Speaker 2: military immediately confiscated his roles of film, Murphy managed to
Speaker 2: keep one concealed. His manager, Michael Maza, would later state
Speaker 2: to see Murphy's pictures, although they were dark and grainy,
Speaker 2: there was a definite cone shaped object embedded in the ground.
Speaker 2: Murphy prepared a radio show after considerable investigation, titled quote
Speaker 2: Object in the Woods, which he planned to air. However,
Speaker 2: before the show went out, two government officials quote unquote
Speaker 2: arrived to speak with him. His colleague Lee Linda Fascia
Speaker 2: would later recall them wearing dark suits and insisted on
Speaker 2: speaking with Murphy alone. When they left, they took with
Speaker 2: them most of his research notes, photographs, and audio recordings.
Speaker 2: His show did air, but it was now a much
Speaker 2: edited and condensed version.
Speaker 4: Y'all bet this reminds me of is that guy with
Speaker 4: the afro? How he was like so dead set on
Speaker 4: telling the truth, the one that got murdered by Epscene's buddy,
Speaker 4: oh or Epstein cellmate. I was just I was just
Speaker 4: thinking about like he was so dead set on telling
Speaker 4: the truth on what happened.
Speaker 2: Uh Clay, Yeah, yeah, Clay, Anthony Clay. Yeah. Perhaps most
Speaker 2: telling is how Murphy would meet his end several years later.
Speaker 2: In February nineteen sixty nine, while on holiday with his
Speaker 2: family in California, he appeared to be the target of
Speaker 2: a hit and run collision. The person behind the wheel
Speaker 2: of the car that killed him remains a mystery.
Speaker 3: Paul Walker.
Speaker 2: Well, there's some things about Paul Walker too, honestly. Now,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the black forour Yeah, black fores UFO
Speaker 2: crash in Germany in nineteen thirty six. There may be
Speaker 2: a connection more to the bed. Now, this is years
Speaker 2: before any of the Diaglock stuff happened, but perhaps the
Speaker 2: first round. Let's see just over twenty years earlier, on
Speaker 2: the other side of the Atlantic and war torn Europe,
Speaker 2: the Third Reich were busy developing technologies of many kinds,
Speaker 2: most of which were significantly far ahead of the Allies.
Speaker 2: It's no understatement to say that much of the modern
Speaker 2: world in which we live has its roots and the
Speaker 2: work carried out by Nazi scientists, work that would continue
Speaker 2: under Operation paper Clip following the war. Some researchers firmly
Speaker 2: believe that the Black Force UFO crash Freeburg, Germany in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six is in part responsible. It is their
Speaker 2: belief that from this incident the surge ahead of the
Speaker 2: Nazi technology would come. Following the apparent crash, SS troops
Speaker 2: recovered their remains and arranged for transportation to third Reich
Speaker 2: headquarters in Webellsburg Bevelsburg Castle. Yeah, you gotta sink your
Speaker 2: teeth into those wobble us. From here, the back engineering
Speaker 2: of craft and its propulsion systems took place. To some
Speaker 2: it is no coincidence as shortly after this incident advancements
Speaker 2: such as the V one and V two rockets happened,
Speaker 2: or perhaps the Hanabou vehicle is another example a craft
Speaker 2: that used anti gravity propulsion technology. The advanced craft could
Speaker 2: reach speeds of seventeen thousand kilometers per hour and possessed
Speaker 2: armor completely resistant to heat. I've never heard look that up.
Speaker 3: What the hell is the I've never heard of this either.
Speaker 2: The Hana Hanabu. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Unless
Speaker 2: there's some other way to pronounce that in German. Do
Speaker 2: you have to like throw flem in there somewhere? I
Speaker 2: don't actually now. The Germans, I feel like, are very
Speaker 2: anti Flim. They were kind of trying to get rid
Speaker 2: of all the people that use the flem in their language.
Speaker 2: But okay, very enough, one technological piece of equipment would
Speaker 2: stay secret to the world until nearly half a century
Speaker 2: after the world's end, or the war's end. Let's see
Speaker 2: that the thing we're talking about would be the diglock,
Speaker 2: the Nazi bell. We already talked about the two thousand
Speaker 2: book that was done by researcher Igor Wittowski would release
Speaker 2: truth about the wonder weapon in which he revealed the
Speaker 2: world deklock, more commonly known as the Nazi Bell. We
Speaker 2: talked about this already leaked documents of s S officer
Speaker 2: Jacob Spoorrenberg anonymous source in Polish intelligence and granted access
Speaker 2: to the files. Yes, we've covered this already, So now
Speaker 2: let's talk about the the liquid.
Speaker 4: They're disc they're they're pretty much UFOs created by the Nazis.
Speaker 2: They're flying saucer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's pretty much. And that was from the
Speaker 4: War Museum. Actually so these are actual photos of the
Speaker 4: ones that they created the war. So they're flying saucers,
Speaker 4: is what they are. They are disc aircrafts that were produced.
Speaker 2: And that's verified, historically accurate. That's not just like well.
Speaker 3: I mean this is from the War Museum, so yeah,
Speaker 3: that is technically oh shit, yeah, apparently this is. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of different stuff talking about different versions of it.
Speaker 3: But the nazi u is UFOs yep.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what they are.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they made their own. They made their own.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm going to show it to the cult really quick.
Speaker 4: I know you guys can't see it very well, but.
Speaker 2: We're going to have to. Damn you know what you know,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 3: I spell this, I'm gonna send it to you real quick.
Speaker 2: I got your d h au n e what now?
Speaker 3: Haune?
Speaker 2: I got you Hanabu whoa Yeah. Since nineteen thirty five,
Speaker 2: the Thule Society had been scouting for a remote, inconspicuous,
Speaker 2: underdeveloped testing ground for their craft. Thuly found a location
Speaker 2: in northwest Germany that was known as possibly designed as Hanaberg,
Speaker 2: which would be where they get Honnabou from. At the
Speaker 2: establishment of this testing ground and facilities, The SSEIV units
Speaker 2: simply referred to themselves as h garat Hanaberg device. For
Speaker 2: wartime security reasons, the name was shortened to Honaboo in
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine. It was briefly designed as the RFZ
Speaker 2: five along with Vril's machine, once the Hanaburg site was
Speaker 2: abandoned in favor of the more suitable real Orato Brodenberg
Speaker 2: aircraft testing grounds.
Speaker 4: So apparently this is apparently this is associated with the
Speaker 4: rural is it rural society?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So this is it's associated with their secret society as well,
Speaker 4: the occult society specifically, so.
Speaker 2: Is Thuley Society. Both of those were a cult.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so this is apparently associated with them in particular.
Speaker 2: So so we have flying saucers that the Nazis made
Speaker 2: through their occult groups, not their engineering groups, all right,
Speaker 2: along with the V one and V two rockets.
Speaker 4: In nineteen sixty, fringe authors began spreading tales of the
Speaker 4: UFO Nazi UFOs that were tied to the occults or aliens.
Speaker 4: According to these series and fictional quote unquote fictional stories,
Speaker 4: various potential code memes or sub classifications of Nazi UFOs
Speaker 4: such as the oh there's no way the Hanbu is
Speaker 4: one of them, though glock is one of them. V
Speaker 4: seven is one of them, Virural is one of them.
Speaker 3: So there's a whole.
Speaker 4: Bunch of names. Apparently they had this is this is
Speaker 4: one of those things. Is they're saying that this isn't real,
Speaker 4: but it is real.
Speaker 2: There's pictures, I know, So there's dated pictures of them
Speaker 2: flying with Nazi aircraft. Now, grants, I understand photoshops a thing,
Speaker 2: but like, holy shit.
Speaker 4: So apparently this is also tied to So it confirms
Speaker 4: largely the documented history of the following points that Nazi
Speaker 4: Germany claimed territory in New swab Swabinland in Antarca. In
Speaker 4: the expedition in nineteen thirty eight, they conducted research in
Speaker 4: advanced propulsion technology, including rocketry, Victor Shorgensburg's engine research horton
Speaker 4: flying wing air this other experiment that was author sac
Speaker 4: asx or as six circular winged aircraft, which also ties
Speaker 4: into the book that was talking about the Morning of
Speaker 4: the Musicians, and that ties into the Glockade. So it
Speaker 4: all circles back to each other, which ties in somehow
Speaker 4: to Hollow Earth as well, it talks about so it
Speaker 4: is so a lot of it talks about.
Speaker 3: Fandom of it.
Speaker 4: But then when you look into some of the other stuff,
Speaker 4: like some of the museums itself is talking about it.
Speaker 4: There's an archaeological website that is talking about it as well.
Speaker 4: Is a thrilling it says, so the archaeological dig site
Speaker 4: website is talking about it being reconstructs. One of the
Speaker 4: most thrilling conspiracy theories of World War two Germany engineers
Speaker 4: were involvement in spacecrafts and stuff like that. So you
Speaker 4: have some people that are saying yes, some people that
Speaker 4: are saying no, they were created in a polished own shocker.
Speaker 4: One of the theories states that it is used to
Speaker 4: construction and testing of anti gravity engines, needed it for spaceships.
Speaker 4: Now if we think about that, and then we think about.
Speaker 2: There's a legendly no gravity in space.
Speaker 4: But we're thinking about the serum that is indestructible as well.
Speaker 3: On top of this, which so.
Speaker 4: If they created something I guess a timeline wise, they
Speaker 4: would have created the spaceships first, then they would have
Speaker 4: created de Glack and they would also have used the
Speaker 4: serum as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that would mean.
Speaker 4: That they would have an indestructible metal that could potentially
Speaker 4: transport into different dimensions or be a time machine.
Speaker 3: Or do this, or spacecraft or spacecraft.
Speaker 4: So it would have maybe potentially gone to the Moon,
Speaker 4: it could have gone to Antarctica.
Speaker 3: It could if it's.
Speaker 2: Anti gravity, that means that you so with the rocket
Speaker 2: systems like that, the biggest reason why we need rockets
Speaker 2: is to fight against gravity and break through our atmosphere.
Speaker 2: If you have anti gravity technology, you don't need that
Speaker 2: much thrust to get you through the atmosphere. You need
Speaker 2: very little thrust as a matter of fact, if you're
Speaker 2: not accounting for gravity. So that being said, Nazis on
Speaker 2: the Moon.
Speaker 4: It says that the Germans actually finished these weapons and
Speaker 4: time and the fate of the world. Oh, if the
Speaker 4: Germans had finished it, the fate of the world would
Speaker 4: have changed completely.
Speaker 3: They're talking about allegedly a part of that.
Speaker 4: This is specifically allegedly a part of Antarctica as well,
Speaker 4: so sent troops to several missions to Antarctica to see it.
Speaker 3: Said that the.
Speaker 4: Hannambu had been secured by the Americans in January nineteen
Speaker 4: forty seven during the Operation High Jump.
Speaker 2: We've talked about Operation High Jump.
Speaker 4: Several months afterwards, information of a UFO crashing over Roswell,
Speaker 4: New Mexico ran through the US media.
Speaker 3: If one, if one.
Speaker 4: Proposes that the UFOs were the same German spaceships Hannebou,
Speaker 4: the whole story of the crash over Roswell starts to
Speaker 4: make sense.
Speaker 2: Oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you every time there
Speaker 2: is a UFO crash, there seems to be some sort
Speaker 2: of a liquid metal substance sprayed all over the crash site. Yeah,
Speaker 2: could it be zero five twenty five?
Speaker 3: Did we just discover like, go oh wait, discovered but
Speaker 3: we do it?
Speaker 4: But I meant like, do we just like discover an
Speaker 4: entire rabbit hole that we didn't even realize all tied together?
Speaker 2: If that's true? What if that's true, and there's a
Speaker 2: big if good.
Speaker 3: Cult members, big if big if that means that.
Speaker 2: The flying Saucers were never being controlled by any kind
Speaker 2: of alien or extraterrestrial life. It's a crash site for
Speaker 2: experimental government tech, experimental government flying craft. When it crashes,
Speaker 2: that's why it sprays all this liquid metal that no
Speaker 2: one else knows exists. Because zerom five twenty five is
Speaker 2: seen to be fictitious, which if that's the fuel source,
Speaker 2: it's not being burned, it's being used in the anti
Speaker 2: gravity components, which you would use by spinning it, because
Speaker 2: if you've already got the anti gravity going on, how
Speaker 2: you would achieve lift is from spin.
Speaker 4: And they both rotate in different ways, which attributes to
Speaker 4: fusion and fission.
Speaker 2: And it also goes against the magnetic poles of the Earth,
Speaker 2: so basically you're using physics against itself to move the craft.
Speaker 4: It brings up a point about Americans still going into
Speaker 4: Antarctica over and over and over again for Operation Deep
Speaker 4: Freeze in the mid nineteen sixties as well, which to.
Speaker 3: Try to find more of this stuff.
Speaker 4: Herbert size and palk Shock refers to the sources, which
Speaker 4: we mean of unsubstantial at this time.
Speaker 3: Classic strategies, so.
Speaker 4: Pretty much is a conspiracy theory that they aren't one
Speaker 4: hundred percent certain, but it goes it really starts to
Speaker 4: connect everything if you start to look at it. They
Speaker 4: actually list a whole bunch of different sites to check
Speaker 4: out to see if that you can tie them together,
Speaker 4: so you have multiple websites saying yes, this is a
Speaker 4: real thing. You have other ones saying no, this is
Speaker 4: just a conspiracy theory. But when you start to really
Speaker 4: look at it all together, I see pain. See I
Speaker 4: see a big picture being pain. And what do you
Speaker 4: guys think? Like, I know that we're presenting all different sorts.
Speaker 3: Of ideas, theories, facts.
Speaker 4: Potentially of what could be what couldn't be. What do
Speaker 4: you guys think right now? Because I know some of
Speaker 4: the stuff that we've read isn't factual, A lot of
Speaker 4: it is factual, so hm, I'm not as one hundred
Speaker 4: percent certain? So how does it all tie into this?
Speaker 4: And do you want to read the rest of this
Speaker 4: article because there's a lot of difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is pretty much the end of the article
Speaker 2: right here. And I think the quote from von Braun
Speaker 2: has a little extra on this one. So yeah, has
Speaker 2: alien technology shaped the quote unquote modern world? Is it
Speaker 2: possible that the strange acorn shaped a craft that crash
Speaker 2: landed in the woodland in Kecksburg was in fact the
Speaker 2: Nazi Bell? Is there any possibility, regardless of how bizarre
Speaker 2: it may sound, that the Bell and the leader of
Speaker 2: the project, Hans Kammler, transported themselves two decades in time
Speaker 2: or might it be probable that the bell and its
Speaker 2: technology entered America as part of Operation paper Clip. Might
Speaker 2: the Kesburg incident have been a citing of the continuation
Speaker 2: of the project Kommler had agreed to defect the United
Speaker 2: States towards the end of the war. Might this also
Speaker 2: explain why the military arrived so quickly following the incident.
Speaker 2: Maybe a thought worth pondering more, though, is the technology
Speaker 2: we enjoy today much of this was a continuation of
Speaker 2: the work of Nazi scientists under the paper Clip project.
Speaker 2: How much might have been or might have had its
Speaker 2: roots in back engineered alien technology. How much of our
Speaker 2: modern world owes itself to another world unknown to us,
Speaker 2: but perhaps around us everywhere. When UFO researcher out in
Speaker 2: Greenfield interviewed doctor Warner von Braun in nineteen seventy a
Speaker 2: paper Clip transplant about how the Germans had become so
Speaker 2: technologically more advanced than the rest of the world, his
Speaker 2: reply was blunt and simple, direct quote from von Braun.
Speaker 2: We had help from them, Von Braun informed Greenfield and
Speaker 2: motioned with his head to the UFO documents the researcher
Speaker 2: was reading. When he asked von Braun if he meant extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2: He simply replied, yes, hm, that's from the guy.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, so and that.
Speaker 3: Tant tizes all into each other.
Speaker 4: But you but with this crash site, there's two bodies
Speaker 4: that were attached to it as well.
Speaker 2: But then we're back into the source of allegedly, right,
Speaker 2: are you talking about in Kecksburg?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Were they human?
Speaker 3: Because yes, I believe so.
Speaker 2: Was I talked about in this article? Because I didn't
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it was talked about in this
Speaker 4: article or if I read it because we didn't read everything.
Speaker 4: But I know that I was listening to a podcasts
Speaker 4: earlier today and it was talking about that there was
Speaker 4: two bodies that were associated with this as well on
Speaker 4: this website that though they have multiple videos videos to
Speaker 4: be able to watch too.
Speaker 2: So wow, UFO in orf Yeah, UFO insight dot com
Speaker 2: for anybody who's curious. But cool, Okay, this is that's
Speaker 2: so interesting to make that connection.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is actually the don't I didn't watch this,
Speaker 4: but this goes into the whole how they connect to
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 3: And everything like that.
Speaker 2: So it's possible. It's very very possible.
Speaker 4: It is very possible that this is all connected to
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, talking about the fringe theory to the
Speaker 2: pop culture phenomenon. Despite the weight of evidence against the existence,
Speaker 2: diclock has achieved remarkable cultural staying power, appearing across various
Speaker 2: media for media formats, and embedding itself in popular imagination.
Speaker 2: The story found its way through the wily popular video
Speaker 2: game series called Call of Duty, where deglock featured prominently
Speaker 2: in the zombies mode as a powerful artifact. The television
Speaker 2: series Twelve Monkeys.
Speaker 3: Did do you realize that was in here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that's true, though, very true. The television
Speaker 2: series Twelve Monkeys dedicated an entire episode to d glock,
Speaker 2: portraying it as a time travel device. Authors like James
Speaker 2: Rawlins in Black Order and A g. Riddle in The
Speaker 2: Atlantis Gene have incorporated the concept into best selling novels.
Speaker 2: Even television networks have embraced the story, with documentaries on
Speaker 2: the History Channel and Discovery Channel presenting Dieglock alongside Nazi
Speaker 2: UFO theories, which again the flying saucer, the Nazi flying
Speaker 2: saucer that that just blew my mind. Honestly, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be doing some more digging into that one.
Speaker 3: After reap, We're gonna have to totally look into this more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, there's a lot more to some of
Speaker 4: the stuff that they created and potentially had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Uh, like I said, the networks, Yeah, we talked about that.
Speaker 2: While these progra typically include brief skeptical counterpoints, the visual
Speaker 2: medium naturally emphasizes the more sensational aspects of the narrative.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, uh. The story's appeal isn't difficult to understand.
Speaker 2: It combines several magnetic elements, Nazi super science, UFOs, government
Speaker 2: cover ups, and the tantalizing possibility of technology so advanced
Speaker 2: they seem like magic. Diglock sits at the intersection of
Speaker 2: the of historical mystery, science fiction, and conspiracy theory, a
Speaker 2: potent combination for capturing public imagination. I mean, I get it,
Speaker 2: I absolutely do the digital afterlife of a questionable legend.
Speaker 2: The Internet has proven to be the perfect incubator for
Speaker 2: the Diglock legend. Websites dedicated to ufology, conspiracy theories, and
Speaker 2: alternative history have embraced and expanded the narrative, often presenting
Speaker 2: speculation as established fact. YouTube videos with millions of views
Speaker 2: discuss diglock as though it is its existence is beyond question,
Speaker 2: rarely acknowledging the problematic evidentiary basis. This digital proliferation creates
Speaker 2: a self reinforcing cycle. As more websites reference Dieglock, each
Speaker 2: citing the other as a source, a false impression of
Speaker 2: scholarly consensus emerges. The sheer volume of material online can
Speaker 2: make it appear that dieglock has substantial documentary support, when
Speaker 2: in reality, nearly all sources traced back to Watowski's original,
Speaker 2: unverified claims. The Internet has also facilitated the connection between
Speaker 2: dieglock and other conspiracy theories. It now features prominently in
Speaker 2: narratives about secret space programs, breakaway civilizations, and government suppression
Speaker 2: of free energy technology. Each new connection further distances the
Speaker 2: story from its already tenuous historical warings. Well, I mean, okay, fine,
Speaker 2: I understand what they're saying here, but again with the
Speaker 2: evidence that we.
Speaker 4: Do have, and this is from UFO ologists, this is
Speaker 4: that's what I was saying. This lady isn't like one
Speaker 4: hundred percent saying that it's.
Speaker 3: Like this is real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is a this is more or less
Speaker 4: giving all of the information, But I mean, I get
Speaker 4: that they are talking about potentially this is you know
Speaker 4: that there is an echo chamber right now, because there's
Speaker 4: so much information of this is real, this is real,
Speaker 4: this is real since the two thousands, but there is
Speaker 4: no actual credible information quote unquote that.
Speaker 2: We have this is. This is incredible. I didn't know
Speaker 2: that it went to this many levels. We had heard
Speaker 2: about the Glockie. We've been Sam.
Speaker 4: Sam Sam has mentioned it so many times, and honestly,
Speaker 4: when I started to look into it, I found just
Speaker 4: a lot of Yes, this is real, but then when
Speaker 4: you try to look into it more, it just seemed
Speaker 4: like it was kind of bullshit. But now that we've
Speaker 4: really gone into it more and more, there's so many
Speaker 4: aspects that are questionable. Yeah, and pose a question of
Speaker 4: is this real? Is it could have been something real?
Speaker 4: And the last thing that, like what I found really
Speaker 4: was interesting is where did it go? Is the theory
Speaker 4: about what happened to it, if it was a real
Speaker 4: thing or not. And so just to kind of touch
Speaker 4: on that, people believe that Poland that it got loaded
Speaker 4: onto a train filled with gold and it got taken
Speaker 4: out of the country. That's the theory that happened. It
Speaker 4: got the Nazi gold train. The tunnel beneath the mountain
Speaker 4: is a suggestion it got taken.
Speaker 3: The other one is the United States.
Speaker 4: One of the popular theory is that the SS General
Speaker 4: Hans so we were talking about, traded the technology to
Speaker 4: the US in exchange for his freedom at the end
Speaker 4: of the war. This theory often links to Diagake being
Speaker 4: associated in nineteen sixty five in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: Another one is South America and Argentina, which.
Speaker 4: We you know, is kind of an obvious one because
Speaker 4: of the two submarines. So it was said that it
Speaker 4: was those two submarines actually held it. One of them
Speaker 4: potentially had pieces of it or the whole thing potentially
Speaker 4: on it possible, so it's impossible. Antarctica is a big
Speaker 4: one because of the using the U boats, yeah, and
Speaker 4: getting there and putting it there, because.
Speaker 2: One of those U boats came from Antarctica, so who's
Speaker 2: to say it didn't make a stop off in Antarctica,
Speaker 2: give its payload to the New swab And land base
Speaker 2: and then make its way to Argentina for the yep,
Speaker 2: we're here now it's whatever.
Speaker 3: And one of the last ones is Hangar eighteen.
Speaker 4: Some fringe theorists mentioned the device being held in the
Speaker 4: infamous Hangar eighteen. I suppose a top se US government
Speaker 4: facility for housing recovers alien technology. So this is also
Speaker 4: like we were talking about, is talking about it being
Speaker 4: an alien technology and that this was a part of that.
Speaker 4: So they got it somehow, and then they were the
Speaker 4: ones that taught them how to make this.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. I didn't know when
Speaker 2: we started this episode about DEGLOCKI diglock however you want to,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you call it, that we were
Speaker 2: going to be taking a wild tripped into verified historical
Speaker 2: claims about the underground laboratories in Poland dug by slave
Speaker 2: labor from concentration camps by the Nazis, and somehow we
Speaker 2: are going to make our way into a moon based conversation,
Speaker 2: in an Arctica based conversation actual Nazi flying saucers, the
Speaker 2: possibility of the zero five two five, and how that
Speaker 2: might be the liquid metal that is found on every
Speaker 2: single UFO crash site that has happened in the continent US.
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't know that that's where we were
Speaker 2: going to be. I didn't here we are.
Speaker 4: I didn't think we're going to be there Eire. And
Speaker 4: then if the article that we read was truthful about
Speaker 4: that doctor of wanting it to be shipped in from
Speaker 4: South Kenya. Yeah, then if that's actually a real thing,
Speaker 4: there's so much more technology, the advancements when it comes
Speaker 4: to that, it's crazy. To be honest with you, I
Speaker 4: don't really I didn't really see where it is. If
Speaker 4: it's indestructible one hundred percent, and it can be molded
Speaker 4: into any shape when it's heated up to three thousand
Speaker 4: fairnheight and.
Speaker 3: Then shape shift again and again, over and over to
Speaker 3: be whatever.
Speaker 4: Who's to say that it's not being used on the moon?
Speaker 4: Who's to say that Hitler actually didn't go to the
Speaker 4: moon and they said and then Trime traveled up there?
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows?
Speaker 2: And then to show how it has anti gravitational properties
Speaker 2: and how it doesn't even take a real rocket science
Speaker 2: to make that happen. It just takes a physicist to
Speaker 2: use this material for that purpose to make it happen.
Speaker 2: My mind has been blown raven.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's been a wild ride on this episode.
Speaker 4: I would love to hear what other people think about
Speaker 4: everything that we talked about and if it's real or
Speaker 4: if it's not, what do you guys think? I mean,
Speaker 4: there's so many aspects that we touched on today.
Speaker 2: So yes, indeed, we want to hear from you good
Speaker 2: cult members. The best place to let us know what
Speaker 2: you think will be in the comments. I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: all that here in a second. As we wrap up
Speaker 2: of this episode, I do want to make a mention
Speaker 2: of this, as we're talking about the Nazi gold and
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Speaker 2: But good cult members like ravenly said, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: we want to hear from you. What do you think
Speaker 2: about de glock? First of all, how the hell do
Speaker 2: you pronounce it? Second? What do you think about its
Speaker 2: story the underground tunnels that were being used for some
Speaker 2: sort of scientific purpose, but all of them have been
Speaker 2: collapsed and nobody has any real answers to what those
Speaker 2: are being used for. What do you make of the
Speaker 2: stories and how they've all surfaced from the two thousands?
Speaker 2: Do you think that the Polish people finally released some
Speaker 2: of these documents that they had access to only they
Speaker 2: had access to. Maybe they released it, maybe not. Who's
Speaker 2: the say? What do you think about zero five twenty five?
Speaker 2: What do you think about the hobaal Hobboo.
Speaker 4: Hob New nine Nazi.
Speaker 2: Nazi flying saucers. This is something that I'm just learning about.
Speaker 2: I had heard something from Admiral Berg going to Antarctica
Speaker 2: and seeing flying saucers with swastikas on them later on,
Speaker 2: But like, is this.
Speaker 4: Is actually like real in Antarctica that is housing these
Speaker 4: type of things?
Speaker 3: I mean, we know that they're real. Did they actually
Speaker 3: have it? Did Dick Lockie go up there?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, good cult members, We want to hear from you.
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Speaker 2: with all of this being said, this was another beautiful
Speaker 2: episode of the Cult of Conspiracy. And I'm the Cajun
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