WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:07.400 It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.080 Sports Talk seven ninety Holy. 3 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:11.960 Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we. 4 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:15.640 Are get off our show. Idiots, the kids are playing 5 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.239 or trail off. The countries are screwing it up. Gold 6 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:22.320 Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. They're supposed 7 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.440 to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's the 8 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:29.760 kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? 9 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:42.960 Here's nick coffee? 10 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:47.240 All right, let's get it started. Derby Week. In fact, 11 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.560 it is sunny as all get out right now here 12 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:54.960 in downtown Louisville, and it's eighty two degrees, which it's warm, 13 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.920 but that's better than rain. And unfortunately, well, I don't know. 14 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:01.560 I mean to be great in a perfect world if 15 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:04.439 we could get a beautiful week, because Derby of course 16 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.640 is a season, and then you have Derby Week and 17 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:10.480 then you've got you know, Derby Day. But right now, 18 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:12.719 as I look at the forecast for the rest of 19 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.480 the day or the rest of the week, I should say, 20 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:16.680 we have, you know, today is perfect. If we could 21 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:19.879 get today every day, that would be great. But let's 22 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:24.200 be a little realistic here. Tomorrow, Wednesday as well as 23 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:27.159 Thursday gonna be warm, but gonna be gonna be rainy 24 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.159 according to you know, the forecast. But Friday and Saturday 25 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:34.680 look great. We're talking mid to high sixties sunshine with 26 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.760 some clouds. So if that holds up, I'd say we 27 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:40.840 should be pretty grateful from other nature looking out for us. 28 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.319 But again, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, if it rains all day, 29 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.359 that's not exactly ideal. But the scenario where we ever 30 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:51.000 have a week where it's just pleasant, sometimes great, but 31 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:54.120 like never rainy or anything like that, like, that's just 32 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.719 not a real that's fantasy land, right, Like, I'm not 33 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.040 sure that's ever. I'm sure it has happened before, but 34 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.159 I can't remember a time where we had a week 35 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:04.000 that was just nice and we didn't have to worry 36 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.439 about rain. Now, I don't know if there's any week 37 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:08.199 throughout this time of the year where we can get that, 38 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.159 because you know, obviously in the spring it rains. But 39 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:14.039 as of now, it looks good for Friday and Saturday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 40 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:17.400 Thursday not so much. All right, let's get it started again. 41 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.960 Derby Weak Coffee and Company. We are fueled by Thornton's 42 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:22.360 I'm sure you knew that. If not, now you do. 43 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:24.080 My name is Nick Coffee. I hope you knew that. 44 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:28.800 Boston Montgomery alongside today the travel chief, and this is 45 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.479 our time to shine. We are the horse racing guys, right, 46 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.199 act like just just just you know, let's just act 47 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.199 like that because I'm convinced a lot of folks, you know, 48 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:44.000 just kind of hope nobody notices that they're just saying 49 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:47.840 like big buzzwords when it comes to horse racing, you know, 50 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:50.400 knowledge the sport, that kind of stuff. So I learned 51 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.400 long ago that I'm not good at faking it, So 52 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.360 I just I'm transparent. This will be me giving you 53 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:59.599 my you know, I'm sure you'll hear me say it 54 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.080 than just now. But I don't know anything about horse racing. 55 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.240 Probably should, it would probably help me this week. But 56 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.560 I've always argued that, yes, we have the biggest event 57 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.360 in sports when it comes to horse racing, the Kentucky Derby. 58 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.280 It's an awesome thing and I love that it's our event. 59 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.039 I think there are cities across the country, really, I 60 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:22.159 guess probably cities across the world that really they've got 61 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.439 something they know that they're known for and they you know, 62 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.080 it's their time to shine and they embrace it. They 63 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:31.319 love it. They welcome those that come to their hometown, 64 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.639 or maybe not their hometown but where they live to 65 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:36.240 you know, experience something that's special. And the Kentucky Derby 66 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:39.800 is certainly that. But I just you know, I I 67 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:42.120 learned long ago that horse racing is not something I'm 68 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:44.039 probably ever going to be interested in other than you know, 69 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.960 when it comes to the actual Derby. But it is exciting. 70 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:49.560 You know. Today it was the first day for me 71 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:51.919 where it felt like, okay, here we go, like Derby 72 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.960 time is here. I've been talking about the last few weeks. 73 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.439 It just kind of didn't really feel like Derby season 74 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.080 was upon us. Maybe it's because of, you know, the 75 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:01.919 distraction we have with the awful flooding and we had 76 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.319 a tornado too, Let's be real, it wasn't like we 77 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.159 you know, we've had some pretty brutal weather. But again, 78 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:10.319 it's Derby week and that is exciting. Can you name 79 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.080 any of the horses in the field, Austin, Yes, Okay, 80 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:14.639 I like a few of them. That's right up. 81 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:14.919 What am I? 82 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.480 What am I doing? You you went to the Derby. 83 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:21.160 The Derby preview we had on Aney, you're the expert. 84 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:22.920 I'm glad you reminded of me that because I'm I'm 85 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:24.959 gonna have to lean on you. I got it. 86 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:28.360 I got not everything you need, because you got everything 87 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:28.680 I need. 88 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.319 Baby, I got everything that you need. 89 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:33.639 When myself though, when it comes to horse race, and 90 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.800 I do enjoy it, like my my father is always 91 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.160 big at Actually the Kirkster was at the track while 92 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.680 yours truly was being born. He had to be called 93 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.560 over to the hospital because yeah he was. He was 94 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.879 at the betting windows especially a great story. That fantastic, 95 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.040 But like when it comes to like knowing like the 96 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.759 trainers and the jockeys and stuff like that, I really 97 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.519 don't get it. But I've sort of followed him around 98 00:04:57.560 --> 00:04:59.800 because there's a lot of times where I'll pop in 99 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:04.000 the horse race and betting app eleven o'clock at night, 100 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.360 betting all around the world, and I'll see some of 101 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:07.800 these names and I've seen them before. 102 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:10.959 So I'm excited for the Derby, and. 103 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:12.759 I know a few. You want me to go ahead 104 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:14.399 and tell you my favorite? Should we just go ahead? 105 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.560 And of course the one that I like and this 106 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.040 might be just falling into the trap that everybody else 107 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:22.040 is setting. But it's a horse named Sandman. I don't 108 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.920 know if you've heard this story. Yeah, it's a beautiful 109 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:29.519 gray horse and it's named after Metallica's inner Sandman. And 110 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.879 like from as far as I know, like their trainer 111 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.560 is like a young hot shot and like the Horse 112 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.759 Training Committee, he's like a social media influencer. He does 113 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:42.959 like collaborations, like his training. He gets like millions of views, 114 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.480 and I think that's not looked upon rightly out of 115 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.759 the you know, it's the old boys club in horse racing, 116 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.600 right so they see someone like that coming making a 117 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:53.839 little bit noise. That's where he gets his doubters from. 118 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:56.199 But I like him. He's a second favorite right now, 119 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.959 six to one. The other one is journalism. That's your 120 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:03.079 overwhelming favorite. It's fresh off one in the Santa I need, 121 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:05.240 but Santa I need a Derby. But here's the thing. 122 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.279 All these all these horses are the best in the world. 123 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:10.959 They're Grade A horse winners, like you have to you 124 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.959 have to win Grade A stakes to be in the derby. 125 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.160 So it's it's gonna be interesting. But journalism, I don't know, 126 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:19.279 do you like that name for horse or something about 127 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.319 a horse being named journalism that I don't know. I 128 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:24.279 like to go off the names too, don't get me wrong. 129 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.639 Yeah, I mean to me it is there a story 130 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.279 behind it? Because there's I mean, in fact, there's this 131 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.680 necessarily sure, there's a story behind every every name I 132 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:34.800 feel like, and some are really interesting and you know, 133 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:36.519 you think, Okay, I would have never guessed that that's 134 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:38.399 how you came up with the name, but it makes sense. 135 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:40.560 And then there's some that are just you know, yeah, 136 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:42.480 there's not a cool story. We just decided to name 137 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.600 it that because of something, you know, something random, or hey, 138 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.480 my kid really liked the name. We let we let 139 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:50.800 my son or my daughter pick it out. But Jason 140 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.000 Frakes does a really good job of helping I mean, 141 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:54.680 he's he's kind of a Swiss Army knife for the 142 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:56.839 CG I think here. Lately, in the last I don't know, 143 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:58.879 decade or so, he's been known for covering high school 144 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.680 sports and he does a phenomenal job at that, but 145 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:03.600 he also helps out with Kentucky Derby coverage, and each 146 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.839 year he releases a ride up that has the explanation 147 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.199 behind every name in the Derby, and like, that's one 148 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.519 of my favorite things to talk about them. Like, to 149 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.040 be honest with you, this will really put it in 150 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.600 perspective sort of my my my comfort zone when it 151 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.040 comes to talking derby is like that's my favorite thing. 152 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:22.040 We do Derby week to kind of lead up to it, 153 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.199 because you know, I don't have to really know anything 154 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.319 about horse racing or give you any kind of big 155 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:28.360 picks or anything like that when it comes to just 156 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.319 sharing how each horse got their name, and I think 157 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.360 that's interesting. So you know, we'll get to that at 158 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:34.759 some point later in the week, I'm sure. 159 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.800 Also, Like the other big storyline is Bob Baffort's back 160 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:39.839 in the Derby for the first time in like five years. 161 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:43.720 That's the biggest storyline in probably in the sport other 162 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.000 than just the Derby. Is that Bafford, after that legal 163 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.920 battle with Churchill downs, he's back and you know you 164 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:51.319 can you can never count him out, right, Like he's 165 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:55.040 got two horses, that's right. So I don't know if 166 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.079 I'm going to bet on this, but this is something 167 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.040 that just you know, you know, I'm a big time, 168 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.079 you know, nineties country fan. I think a lot of 169 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.560 people know that if you listen to this show Toby 170 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.839 Keith mullet Toby Keith in the nineties legendary always been 171 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:12.040 a big Toby Keith fan. Obviously, he passed away not 172 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.600 that long ago, and I didn't know that he had 173 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:18.519 any interest or you know, I think he actually I 174 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.560 don't know the exact story, but he is connected in 175 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.319 some way to one of the horses in the derby 176 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.680 this year. Really, Yeah, and it is. Let's see, I 177 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.160 just had it pulled up here. Where the hell's it at? Well, 178 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:32.440 that's what I get for trying to give you a 179 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.480 name of a horse and now I can't seem to find. Yeah, 180 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:38.279 here we go. It is render judgment. Is the horse 181 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.120 in the derby that he is? Again? I think he 182 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.399 might be part owner or something, or maybe his estate is. 183 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.399 So that's one that like, I don't know anything about 184 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.279 the horse other than what I just shared with you, 185 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.399 but it's got me at least thinking, Okay, maybe I'm 186 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.120 gonna pull for that. It looks as if currently thirty 187 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.519 to one odds, which you know isn't great, but I 188 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:59.519 kind of like betting on horses like that because you know, 189 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.799 you just never know. Yeah, I just feel like to me, 190 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.240 it's and this is, this is I think puts it 191 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:05.840 in perspective sort of kind of where I am when 192 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:08.440 it comes to understanding like what I don't even know what? 193 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.440 Like if I was going to dedicate a certain amount 194 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:15.039 of time to you know, studying the field here and 195 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:17.919 and figuring out what I wanted to do, I wouldn't 196 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:20.279 even know how to do that, right, I wouldn't. There's 197 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:23.080 things that you can reference, like things you see in 198 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:26.519 the program Ride ups on the Horses, Like I could 199 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.039 read the experts, but like it's so over my head. 200 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:32.480 I just you know, it would be a waste of 201 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:34.759 my time. It's a new language. So let's go back 202 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:37.399 to Like when I talk about gambling and betting on sports, 203 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.519 I enjoy betting on football and basketball because those are 204 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:43.679 the sports that I at least, you know, tell myself 205 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:45.960 that I have some knowledge of, and I keep up 206 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.200 with I know who's good, who's not, that kind of stuff. 207 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:51.519 So when I do win, and in reality, it's it's 208 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:53.919 mostly just luck. I mean, if it wasn't, then you know, 209 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:55.519 I think a lot of us would be doing a 210 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:56.919 lot better when it comes to the you know, the 211 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.879 profits we make from from betting on sports. So you 212 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:01.799 but when I do win and I put a little 213 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.360 bit of thought into it, it makes it more enjoyable. 214 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.000 But I've always believed that winning or losing when it 215 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:10.039 comes to gambling in any form or fashion is really 216 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:12.559 is really just luck. And I convince myself of that. 217 00:10:12.639 --> 00:10:14.840 So I can, you know, make sure I never feel like, Okay, 218 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.000 funds are getting tied at home, kids need diapers, let 219 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:20.480 me go to the slot machine, like you know what 220 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:23.000 I'm saying, Like, it's just it's it's it's not worth it, right, 221 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.679 So anyways, I you know, to me, betting on horse 222 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.000 racing is just like the slot machine. It's just like 223 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.519 playing blackjack. Sure, you know, I just to me, it's 224 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:34.919 just it's luck. So therefore I just try to find 225 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.320 a horse that I've got some type of you know, 226 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.679 interest in, maybe based off the name. But I also 227 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:42.279 like betting ones that maybe aren't like the the the 228 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.399 you know, predicted to finish dead last, but you know, 229 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:46.759 kind of somewhere in between, like the twenty thirty to 230 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.279 one odds, and usually if they win, you know, there's 231 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.639 there's a little bit more juice there on the on 232 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:53.919 the payout for casual sports betters. 233 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.240 Yeah, I could totally see where you're coming from from that, 234 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.559 because there's so much more intricacies to betting, like the 235 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:02.039 try in the super effected, because I feel like anybody 236 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.480 could just pick a winning horse and that's the random 237 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:05.519 one that's going to pay you out. 238 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:06.360 However, many but. 239 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:11.159 People like they they judge their their their speeds and 240 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:14.879 their there there. They have stats for this is how many, 241 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:17.039 this is how good they look when they race on 242 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.840 dirt or on a slow track or a fast track, 243 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.679 and they always have those in the field peg to 244 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.519 win or to be in force. So there's always a 245 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.960 trifect or a SuperFect or like your daily double where 246 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.000 you win like three races in a row or something 247 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.480 like that. And shout out talk about the Derby betting 248 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.039 preview thing. I was able to get my about to 249 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.720 be in laws in there. And they're huge, huge nick 250 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:44.559 huge racing fans. Okay, fire all the time. They are 251 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.679 always they're always at like there's group chats that they 252 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:50.240 have with like everybody just talking about it. 253 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:51.879 It's a it's a daily grind for them. 254 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:54.759 Let me tell you, they were locked in, they had 255 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.840 they were writing on their programs and by the end 256 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:59.039 they were standing up asking questions. 257 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.000 Oh hell yeah, it was great. So we've got some 258 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.480 resources here. It sounds like we can utilize to help 259 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:05.799 us be a little better. And now again I'm not 260 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:07.279 gonna have some fun. I don't want to throw you 261 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.159 in there with me, because again you you you know 262 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:10.759 clearly a little bit more about it than I do. 263 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:12.639 In fact, anybody listening probably does. 264 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:14.600 All you need to do, Nick, is just bet on 265 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:16.360 it once and then you just need to see your 266 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.639 horse cross the line, and then that's what hooks you. 267 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:21.000 I'm not sure I've ever been worse at betting on 268 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:23.919 anything or doing anything than in horse racing. Yeah, I mean, 269 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.519 now it's been enjoyable because my son, and I'm curious 270 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.600 if he's still gonna be as into it. I'm gonna 271 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:32.320 take him out to the backside this week and let 272 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:34.320 him enjoy it. But like for for reasons, I have 273 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:38.440 no clue why my son is obsessed with horse racing. 274 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.960 And again it's not you know, clearly he didn't get 275 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.080 it from me, right, but he loves he loves horse racing. 276 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:46.080 He doesn't as much now because he's got a little 277 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.159 bit Well, I'm sure, he still loves it. But when 278 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.360 he first started to like watch our phones whenever we're 279 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.559 at dinner, or watch his tablet instead of watching you know, 280 00:12:55.639 --> 00:13:00.679 cocoa melon or whatever, he's watching old horse races on YouTube. 281 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.639 And I mean and he he's he loves horse racing 282 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:06.200 and he's a born again trainer and he's been to 283 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.759 he's been to Churchill Downs many times. And we now go, 284 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:13.120 you know, we go on Thanksgiving Day. That's kind of 285 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.399 our family thing now, meaning just the four of us, 286 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:17.200 and then we go do family stuff with my parents 287 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.639 and whatnot. And then we also go on Father's Day, 288 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:21.399 and then we'll go occasionally just you know, if there's 289 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:23.320 if there's you know, hey, there's gonna be some some 290 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:26.080 night racing or something like that. And you know, he 291 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.840 he just he loves horses. So when he gets a 292 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:30.000 chance to see them as they walk, you know, walk 293 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:32.200 by the paddock that kind of stuff, he'll pick one. 294 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:35.080 And I would be willing to bet that more than 295 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:36.799 half of the times he's picked a horse and we 296 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.919 bet on it for him, he is won. And at 297 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.279 times it's been horses that you know, had terrible odds. 298 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:44.039 So it was actually a pretty good payday. He bought 299 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:45.960 that a few beers that day. Didn't even know. Oh 300 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.000 that's right. So I thank I think we got some 301 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.639 special in that kid. So he so about two years ago. 302 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.120 I think it was, I guess coming up on two 303 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:57.519 years it was like Father's Day of twenty twenty three. 304 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.559 He we were walking in and you know, he only 305 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:02.759 watch all he knows is just to keep in mind 306 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.240 at this point, he's two going on three. Now he's 307 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.399 four going on five. But he asked, Dad, is just 308 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.919 the Preakness? And there was somebody walking in behind us 309 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.440 that was older and they I turned around and you know, 310 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.399 I was like, nobody, this is this is Churchill down, 311 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:18.879 this is where the derby is. And then this older 312 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:20.759 gentleman was like, did he just ask if this was 313 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.360 the Preakness? And I was thinking, yeah, you know, he's confused. 314 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.639 And they were like, he's two, how does he know 315 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.919 what the Preakness is? And I'm like, well, here, he 316 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:31.320 just watches videos all the time. He loves it. And 317 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:33.559 they're like, oh, you must be you must have really 318 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.879 gotten him started early. Huh, Dad like, no, he knows 319 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:38.559 more than I do. He's two years old. I don't 320 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:40.519 know anything. I don't even know what the preakness is. Yeah, 321 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.440 so that has actually made a little bit a little 322 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.320 bit more fun for me. And if there's ever anything 323 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.200 that will make me want to want to be more 324 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.039 knowledgeable about it, it would probably be that, because you know, 325 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.200 he can enjoy it and I can enjoy it along 326 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.480 with him. But like, at some point he's gonna feel 327 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:56.879 like I'm a real loser because it's gonna, you know, 328 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.320 maybe it becomes his passion, maybe gonna look down on everyone, 329 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.240 maybe he become the new expert. I don't know, but yeah, 330 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:03.879 he has a lot of fun with it. So we'll 331 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:05.759 let him pick out. So for me when it comes 332 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:08.879 to betting, I'm gonna I'm gonna just let him pick 333 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:10.480 a winner and hope that it works out. And if 334 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:12.919 it does, hell yeah. If not, you know, no, biggie, 335 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.720 because I know that no matter what I decide to do, 336 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.279 that certainly wouldn't win. But yeah, Derby weeks here, it's 337 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.799 exciting and we'll have some fun this week getting you 338 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.519 set up for Saturday's big day. And we got a 339 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.080 lot to get into today, by the way, We've got 340 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:28.480 about I mean, Mondays are always really busy and I 341 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.759 wouldn't have it any other way. And I know, Thursday 342 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.919 and Friday it was really just NFL Draft NonStop, and 343 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:37.919 I feel like that was that was you know, what 344 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.600 you probably would have expected us to do, given the 345 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.399 NFL Draft is such a big event. I don't want 346 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.840 to make today nothing but NFL Draft reaction. But man, 347 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.399 there's a lot to unpack. I mean, I've got updated 348 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.639 thoughts on the Shadoor Sanders situation, and I just, I mean, 349 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:57.200 I don't want to regurgitate so much that I said Friday, 350 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:00.000 but to see him not get picked in the second 351 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:03.360 round or the third round and then have to wait 352 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:08.399 until you know, the fifth round on on Saturday, I mean, 353 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.919 it just kind of further makes me feel that that 354 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.000 my you know, that this guy was never as good 355 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.039 as anybody claimed he was. There was a lot more 356 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:21.559 hype and you know, buzz surrounding shit over Sanders as 357 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.080 a quarterback than than you know, substance, and I just 358 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:29.080 I don't know how nobody once thought to themselves, because 359 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.440 let's be real, the amount of people out there like 360 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:35.240 this is unheard of. I mean, we even had Trump 361 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:37.679 tweeting out that, you know, somebody needs to pick him 362 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.759 and again i'll, i'll, I'll dive back in here on 363 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.639 the other side. But imagine not understanding that, like you 364 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:47.320 don't earn an NFL draft position somebody. An NFL draft 365 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:50.440 is a choice. You can be the most accomplished player 366 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:53.120 in the world. If somebody doesn't pick you, that's their choice. 367 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.440 You're not entitled to be drafted at any point. I mean, 368 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.559 that's so painting him as he's being picked on, as 369 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.639 if there's some kind of conspiracy. That's laughable, but also 370 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:08.079 like then it turned into it was collusion. I mean, 371 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.200 imagine thinking the NFL needs you. The NFL doesn't need 372 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:16.000 a damn person. There's not a single human being throughout 373 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:20.599 any history of the NFL, coach, player, GM, whatever, that 374 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:24.039 the NFL needed to be as successful and as dominant 375 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:26.920 as it is in American sports. So if you show 376 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.640 up to the job interview as if they need you, 377 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:34.119 and that's your tone, good luck wanting them to have 378 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.519 you join in on their franchise. And I just to me, 379 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:39.519 to me, it's just that simple, That's what it is. 380 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:44.519 And I kind of hate that it became the only 381 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.759 I can't remember and this speaks to what I said 382 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.480 Thursday before the draft started, because it just kind of 383 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:51.839 I don't know if I don't know if I was 384 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:54.680 able to articulate really what I was feeling, but like, 385 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:58.960 it's it's a gift that that beyond Sanders in his camp, 386 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.680 his family has as far as just no matter what, 387 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:05.680 they're gonna be talked about because they just have that, 388 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:09.200 they have that gift. They're very polarizing. People have got 389 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.720 strong opinions on the one where the other Dion's's showman, 390 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:16.680 and clearly his kids learned from him, and they they 391 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.119 carry themselves as if they've accomplished what he has as 392 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:22.000 a player, which is laughable and really that's his fault. 393 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:27.119 But nonetheless, like it felt like going into the draft, 394 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:29.720 like whatever happens with Shador, He's gonna be the most 395 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:32.559 talked about thing. It's going to be the biggest talking 396 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.960 point from the draft. And here we are days later, 397 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:38.079 and I don't remember the last time we had a 398 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:42.519 draft where there was one specific storyline that dominated the 399 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:46.000 entire event like this, So we'll get into it. Also, 400 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.799 Tyler Shuck coming off the board in the second round 401 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.680