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Speaker 1: Ah, that's a si relief from Brian Thomas that it's
Speaker 1: Thursday and it's that time of week. I always look
Speaker 1: forward to kind of moving away from politics for the
Speaker 1: most part and enjoying a lively discussion with my good
Speaker 1: friend iHeart Meat, the aviation expert rate Jay Ratliffe. Jay,
Speaker 1: you have no idea how much of a joy and
Speaker 1: pleasure it is to talk to you a lot Thursday
Speaker 1: at this time.
Speaker 2: We'll come back.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just glad from Savannah that the phones
Speaker 4: and everything still works.
Speaker 2: True. Yeah, water everywhere.
Speaker 4: We took a fourteen minute or fourteen mile drive back
Speaker 4: from Savannah last night.
Speaker 2: It took more than two hours. Oh my god. Is
Speaker 2: that because the water?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, a lot of the roads are still closed
Speaker 4: at the Oh yeah, we're in the low country. So
Speaker 4: when you get a tropical storm that sits over head
Speaker 4: for three days, that all that water has nowhere to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're pretty much right at sea level, aren't you.
Speaker 4: I think we're about seventy five feet above or we're
Speaker 4: just south of Richmond Hill. But I seeing the community
Speaker 4: respond as they had. I mean, you had neighborhoods that
Speaker 4: the streets were all water, the water was making its
Speaker 4: way up to the house. And he had hundreds and
Speaker 4: hundreds and hundreds of volunteers, and none of them from
Speaker 4: that area. People were coming from you know, miles away
Speaker 4: with boats, stand bags, doing what they could to uh,
Speaker 4: you know, try to help out their their fellow man.
Speaker 4: And I tell you it was it was really nice
Speaker 4: to see nobody wearing you know, political shirts, talking, you know,
Speaker 4: Michigan State going on. It was simply you know, here
Speaker 4: to help their neighbor.
Speaker 2: And it was great to say, well, isn't it a
Speaker 2: nice thing?
Speaker 1: In the worst of times you can actually see the
Speaker 1: best of humanity sometimes the worst as well. But it's
Speaker 1: it can be uplifting. It can renew your your your
Speaker 1: your belief in in people generally speaking, or humanity generally speaking.
Speaker 2: So that's kind.
Speaker 4: I remember this the the the members of our political
Speaker 4: party standing on the steps, uh singing the national anthem
Speaker 4: after the attacks nine to eleven. I mean, we we
Speaker 4: can come together when we really have to. It's just
Speaker 4: a shame we don't do it more often.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the truth? All? Right?
Speaker 1: Well, let's pivot over to our first aviation issue of
Speaker 1: the morning, and it involves political correctness.
Speaker 2: Why not let's go there.
Speaker 4: Well, Delta Airlines, like you know, they just don't want
Speaker 4: to offend anybody, Brian, so you know they've decided to
Speaker 4: no longer insult us and there excuse me, I have
Speaker 4: to read this because it's a very long title. Delta's
Speaker 4: Chief Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Social Impact Officer. That's what
Speaker 4: a CDEI s O has said that Delta striving to
Speaker 4: boldly pursue equity. And they're thinking that the the long
Speaker 4: used term of ladies and gentlemen should no longer be
Speaker 4: used because.
Speaker 2: It could actually.
Speaker 4: Insult people and make certain people not feeling included. Now,
Speaker 4: I don't know, uh, what if you can't use ladies
Speaker 4: and gentlemen, which is a term United British Airways loopthons,
Speaker 4: a bunch of these air lines have all long since abandoned,
Speaker 4: what term can you use that someone won't find offensive?
Speaker 4: And my position is, I don't care if you use
Speaker 4: the term human beings or everyone or somebody is somewhere
Speaker 4: is going to be offended. So what point do we
Speaker 4: Delta's Chief Diversity Equity Inclusion and Social Impact officer. At
Speaker 4: what point do we stop trying to make everybody happy
Speaker 4: and recognize, you know what, there's just going to be
Speaker 4: some people that you know, you can please, others you cannot.
Speaker 4: But Brian work or the pendulum has swung so far
Speaker 4: it terrifies companies if they feel like they're not having
Speaker 4: everybody included. And i'll tell you what it reminds me of.
Speaker 4: Reminds me of Jesse Jackson all those years ago that
Speaker 4: would go to companies and say, if you don't change
Speaker 4: your policy on this and this, we're going to protest
Speaker 4: in front of your business and the optics are going.
Speaker 2: To look horrible.
Speaker 4: And they were pressured into doing things. And that's exactly
Speaker 4: what we see with so many of these companies. They're
Speaker 4: being forced in this worl radical agenda of trying to say, look,
Speaker 4: you know, do things our way, and sadly that's what's
Speaker 4: taking place well.
Speaker 1: And the flip side of that is sane, rational, normal
Speaker 1: people who still understand the difference between men and women
Speaker 1: and aren't offended by such things, become offended when they
Speaker 1: capitulate to these This this one small sliver of left
Speaker 1: wing LUNYC.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the problem is we tolerate it and is
Speaker 4: my carrier of choice because look, they've got the best
Speaker 4: completion factor on the planet. But it bothers me. But
Speaker 4: if there was another choice, if things bothered me so much,
Speaker 4: I could go to another airline.
Speaker 2: And I would.
Speaker 4: But the point is, as long as we keep coming back,
Speaker 4: their planes keep getting filled and they keep treating us
Speaker 4: as they do either from a service standpoint or like United,
Speaker 4: making sure that all of their you know, employees are
Speaker 4: allowed to wear a pronoun button so that we know
Speaker 4: not to call them mam or sir if that's not
Speaker 4: what they want. It's it's hard to keep up. And
Speaker 4: you know, Delta's policy is also if the men want
Speaker 4: to wear a skirt at work, that can and if
Speaker 4: the women, whatever you want to wear is fine because
Speaker 4: we can't offend even our employees. Now forget the fact
Speaker 4: that there used to be like a dress code. I
Speaker 4: remember one time when I went to work with a
Speaker 4: small little cross on my tie, I was told to
Speaker 4: take it off because it wasn't part of the airline's
Speaker 4: dress code, you know, And my boss said, Jay, look,
Speaker 4: obviously I don't have a problem with that, but it's
Speaker 4: not in line with our dress code. Did I feel slighted?
Speaker 4: Did I feel like I wasn't included? Did I feel
Speaker 4: like the entire thing should change on my account? No,
Speaker 4: I recognized it for what it was. I mean that's
Speaker 4: the dress code. I had to abide by it, and
Speaker 4: I'm a representative of the airline, so that's what I
Speaker 4: knew to do. To think anything other is to me
Speaker 4: just not riot.
Speaker 2: That certainly not right at all.
Speaker 1: Well, and I was just trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: they could say, you know, addressing a group, even just
Speaker 1: using the word people or human beings as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: that would offend the furries that might be in the audience.
Speaker 2: You think that they're cats.
Speaker 4: Or literally because we get we treat our cats and
Speaker 4: animals better than people sometimes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a very valid point.
Speaker 1: And we'll be dressing the treating cats and dogs better
Speaker 1: than people. In an upcoming segment about an attack on
Speaker 1: a well Frontier agent, I saw that one in video.
Speaker 1: But we've got other things to talk about as well,
Speaker 1: including spoofing attacks more with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff.
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Speaker 2: And I felt like that since I got here. Jay.
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. In other days you wish you were
Speaker 1: home in bed, not having to think about the troubles
Speaker 1: of the world. That's this morning. So I apologize to
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Speaker 1: and I just I feel terribly about that. When when
Speaker 1: I have this sort of looming, depressed mental attitude. But
Speaker 1: you know, the show must go on, my friend, and
Speaker 1: let's move the show over to spoofing attacks. We talk
Speaker 1: about this with Dave Hatter on Tech Friday. A lot
Speaker 1: spoofing attacks, and apparently we got some concerns with airlines
Speaker 1: spoofing attacks.
Speaker 4: It has been going on for some time, and Forbes
Speaker 4: had an incredible article that they put out. They talked
Speaker 4: about just how serious this situation is continuing to get
Speaker 4: because what's taken place is in the Middle East, we've
Speaker 4: had situations where planes have actually been in the wrong place,
Speaker 4: They've been off course by maybe one hundred miles, or
Speaker 4: they've been at the wrong altitude, and when they are
Speaker 4: notified Bear traffic control, they later are able to determine,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, our instrumentation is wrong. Oh no, and
Speaker 4: it's been impacted by an outside source.
Speaker 2: Oh no. Now you don't know.
Speaker 4: Why, you don't you don't understand, you know what the
Speaker 4: intent is behind this. But I mean, we've had situations
Speaker 4: where as many as two hundred flights in a day
Speaker 4: have been impacted, nine hundred in the second quarter of
Speaker 4: this year. But now we're seeing about thirteen hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty flights that have encountered this. And what's happening is
Speaker 4: it's starting to impact other systems like some of the
Speaker 4: clocks and some of the other parts of the avionics
Speaker 4: package that are being impacted. And this goes back to
Speaker 4: a story that I talked about in twenty fifteen when
Speaker 4: the Department of Homeland Security was at the Atlantic City Airport.
Speaker 4: They went through security, they were sitting at a gate area,
Speaker 4: opened up a laptop, and they were able to hack
Speaker 4: into a Boeing seven to fifty seven I believe it
Speaker 4: was at the gate. Now, they weren't able to get
Speaker 4: into any of the critical components, but they sent out
Speaker 4: an alert and it was very public at the time
Speaker 4: to airlines saying, we have got to do a better
Speaker 4: job at protecting our aircraft now. Sadly, what we've tried
Speaker 4: to do with airlines is create this Wi Fi package
Speaker 4: that they can use as a revenue stream, allowing passengers
Speaker 4: who are flying to use the Wi Fi as we travel.
Speaker 4: It's great, it's a revenue stream for them. The problem is,
Speaker 4: and the concern is, have we opened up a doorway
Speaker 4: that would allow somebody on board the aircraft or outside
Speaker 4: the aircraft to actually get in and hack into the
Speaker 4: aircraft's operating systems. So the fact that we're seeing this
Speaker 4: happen as often and it's increasing. And again that Forbes
Speaker 4: article I can't recommend enough. It's a great one that
Speaker 4: just talks about how this is becoming more and more
Speaker 4: of an issue. It was an August thirteenth edition article
Speaker 4: if you want to look it up, but Brianda, it
Speaker 4: talks about what we've known. This has been going on
Speaker 4: for a while, and you know, when self driving cars
Speaker 4: were becoming more and more the topic of conversation, there
Speaker 4: was concern whether not somebody could hack into that, take
Speaker 4: over a car and cause it to drive in a
Speaker 4: way that we wouldn't want it to. Now we're talking
Speaker 4: about it have been for years. Airlines that might be susceptible.
Speaker 4: That seems sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Man, if you didn't have enough reasons to not want
Speaker 1: to fly, add that to the list.
Speaker 4: Yeah, apologies to everybody at the airport, but I mean,
Speaker 4: at least we're discussing it, talking about it, and it's
Speaker 4: not going to be something that can sneak up on us.
Speaker 4: Because if something were to happen where an aircraft was
Speaker 4: able to be completely taken over or to the point
Speaker 4: where the crew would temporarily lose control. This is not
Speaker 4: something that we can look back and say, Wow, where
Speaker 4: did this come from, because we've been talking about it
Speaker 4: for such a long period of time. But the frequency
Speaker 4: of these attacks, and that's the only word I want
Speaker 4: to use, has grown to a point that it is
Speaker 4: beyond alarming. So obviously we got to find out what's
Speaker 4: going on. And remember, airlines are not known for spending
Speaker 4: exorbitant amounts of money.
Speaker 2: To be shall we say, a.
Speaker 4: Super it current, because when you have nine hundred airplanes
Speaker 4: and it's going to take one hundred thousand dollars update
Speaker 4: something you're talking about, you know tens of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: Airlines are not going to do that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Jay, we have a couple more
Speaker 1: topics talked about. I'd rather than go long in this segment.
Speaker 1: I just ask Joe, let me just pause you. We'll
Speaker 1: bring back because we've got a couple more like For example,
Speaker 1: isn't it a problem if a pilot isn't certified to
Speaker 1: land place we're gonna get hub delays? And we'll talk
Speaker 1: about another outrageous incident. The number of outrageous incidents are
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Speaker 1: talk station full half hour with Jay Ratliffe. Loves saying that,
Speaker 1: love doing it. And here's a question for you. Here's
Speaker 1: your topic. Alaska Air Force a diverd after pilots is
Speaker 1: usn't certified to land. If they're already in the air
Speaker 1: they have to land, Why would they divert the flight?
Speaker 4: Jay roles, It has to do with the airport itself.
Speaker 4: And because look we're talking about Jackson Haw, Wyoming. You've
Speaker 4: ever flown in and out of there. It's contained totally
Speaker 4: within a national park. Yes, it is the only commercial
Speaker 4: airport that is.
Speaker 2: They are very.
Speaker 4: Specific, there's very specific entry and exit protocols because of
Speaker 4: the wildlife that's there. And what ended up happening here
Speaker 4: was you had this light on its way in and
Speaker 4: the pilot reportedly says he's not certified to land. Imagine
Speaker 4: being a passenger and hearing your plight your pilots say that.
Speaker 4: So they were on approach into Jackson Hole, they land
Speaker 4: over it in Salt Lake City. They swap out the pilots,
Speaker 4: and the company comes out later saying no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: he was qualified. We simply did this to correct a
Speaker 4: paperwork air related to the flight crew. That's how it's
Speaker 4: being determined. So and they did it out of an
Speaker 4: abundance of caution. So it could have been that there
Speaker 4: are pilots that are rated in certain weather conditions on
Speaker 4: the visibility, and there are times when some of that
Speaker 4: can apply to the pilots operating in and out of
Speaker 4: certain airports. Now, I cannot believe that any of the
Speaker 4: pilots for Alaska Airlines slash A sky West, which is
Speaker 4: the regional carrier that was the code share, would not
Speaker 4: have been able to have a pilot that could have
Speaker 4: landed in that type of situation. But for whatever the reason,
Speaker 4: they divert to Salt Lake City, they swapped the crew out,
Speaker 4: and then boom, they're able to get the passengers to
Speaker 4: their destination.
Speaker 2: About three hours late.
Speaker 4: After the pilot says he's not certified to land. That's
Speaker 4: certainly a term I do not want to hear my pilots.
Speaker 1: Now I've been there. I mean, is the last slight
Speaker 1: I was on a flight with a layer or that
Speaker 1: ended up in Jacksonville. It didn't look very unique at
Speaker 1: all other than the fact that it's in a park
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful surroundings. But there's plenty of room to land,
Speaker 1: and there's plenty of room to take off. So it
Speaker 1: just looked like a fairly innocuous, easy to navigate situation.
Speaker 1: I've seen some of those airports out in the word
Speaker 1: he watch his YouTube videos where it looks like they
Speaker 1: have absolutely no no room for error or margin of error.
Speaker 4: So and like an aircraft carrier, but it's on a cliff,
Speaker 4: you better nail it right, exactly all right.
Speaker 1: Now, moving over to yet another encounter with an unruly passenger.
Speaker 1: I watched the video of this one. Some people just
Speaker 1: need to get just be smacked right across the face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I tell you when you had this happen.
Speaker 4: It happened in Chicago with a passenger that was upset
Speaker 4: with a member of a Frontier Airline staff. And actually
Speaker 4: it goes from counter to the to the agent where
Speaker 4: the passenger gets on the other side of the counter
Speaker 4: and gets so mad they rip up a computer terminal
Speaker 4: and throws it at the agent. Now, obviously you have assault,
Speaker 4: you've got probably trespassing from being on the wrong part.
Speaker 2: Who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: But obviously this individual is never going to fly Frontier
Speaker 4: airlines ever again as well. But see that's the problem.
Speaker 4: They don't share their no fly list. And I've always
Speaker 4: said that anytime somebody is going to be indicted for
Speaker 4: assault on a passenger or an airline employee, there's no
Speaker 4: way on God's green earth we should allow that individual
Speaker 4: to ever fly maybe not ever, but maybe a five
Speaker 4: year time out thing on any US carrier. The problem
Speaker 4: is airlines don't share that no fly list information, and
Speaker 4: so that means this Frontier person can take all of
Speaker 4: our wonderful personality traits and can fly on any of
Speaker 4: these other airlines and perhaps create a situation that you
Speaker 4: might endanger a flight or cause a diverted landing or
Speaker 4: whatever might happen to be. And it's really unfortunate that
Speaker 4: airlines they don't do it because of the cost continue
Speaker 4: to refuse sharing their list. I understand if somebody gets
Speaker 4: into a verbal back and forth with a flight attendant
Speaker 4: and gets put on a I'd get that, But when
Speaker 4: you're talking about terms of assault, then to me, it
Speaker 4: should be crystal clear where that person cannot fly, because look,
Speaker 4: it's not a right, it's a privilege, and if you
Speaker 4: can't control yourself, then there's no way you should be
Speaker 4: allowed the opportunities fly in any commercial airline at least
Speaker 4: for a period of a few years.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 1: And I just I see something like that, and one
Speaker 1: of my reactions was, I wonder what's set or off?
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what's set or off. I don't
Speaker 1: care if the guy called her, you know, some kind
Speaker 1: of unconscionable word. You don't jump back there and start
Speaker 1: throwing stuff around. There are other recourses you may have.
Speaker 1: Just mind your p's and q's and do the things properly.
Speaker 1: People just lost their sense of I don't know, perspective, humanity,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Brian, I also told my agents all the time at
Speaker 4: Northwest Airlines, we never know why somebody's flying. They may
Speaker 4: have just lost a parent, a child. I mean, we
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on in the world, and we're
Speaker 4: many times the first point of contact after they get
Speaker 4: that kind of news, So that again doesn't excuse that behavior,
Speaker 4: but you recognize that we don't know what individuals are
Speaker 4: going through that cause them to maybe this is the
Speaker 4: worst day of their entire life, and when one little
Speaker 4: thing goes wrong, it's the thing that lights the fuse
Speaker 4: that off it goes. And obviously this kind of behavior
Speaker 4: is never ever, ever and should never happen, but it's
Speaker 4: just unfortunate.
Speaker 2: But it's such a public.
Speaker 4: Thing that if this person jumps on Delta flight and
Speaker 4: causes a problem maybe where the flight is.
Speaker 2: In some sort of risk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I look at that as Delta Airlines would then
Speaker 4: be liable because I would say, wait a minute, it's
Speaker 4: public knowledge of how this person acted here and you
Speaker 4: said okay to let her fly. Now, they may say
Speaker 4: we had no way of knowing we took the reservation,
Speaker 4: those kinds of things, but you know, from a reliability standpoint,
Speaker 4: I would be afraid as another carrier to put this
Speaker 4: type of personality on a flight not knowing.
Speaker 2: What might happen.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, And you're thinking like a plane off, Slawyer.
Speaker 2: When you make it that I've been.
Speaker 4: Hanging around you, brother for years, it's starting to rub off.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good, all right, real quick.
Speaker 4: Jay r Hub delays, it looks like Chicago is going
Speaker 4: to give us some big time issues. Got a lot
Speaker 4: of rain, limited visibility, and some wins that are heading
Speaker 4: in that direction. Minneapolis may as well, but Rader really
Speaker 4: thinks the problem children of the day are going to
Speaker 4: be the two airports in Chicago. Some of those delays,
Speaker 4: unfortunately going to probably approach ninety minutes. Other than that,
Speaker 4: anywhere else in the country should be in pretty good shape.
Speaker 1: Thank God for you. iHeart media aviation ext fort. Jay
Speaker 1: Ratliffe lighting my load at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: as I always appreciate.
Speaker 2: Any time, brother, dam that great week.
Speaker 1: We'll talk next Thursday, and best of luck and love
Speaker 1: to you and your better half, my friend.
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