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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and Cider. Dick Abriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Thursday edition of our show. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>abbreviated not too terribly much though, because we have UK

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<v Speaker 1>women's basketball coming up, not at the top of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>but at seven point thirty because the Wildcats are playing

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<v Speaker 1>over at Miszoo and Columbia. So Darren Hedrick's pregame comes

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<v Speaker 1>up at seven point fifteen, with tip off just a

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<v Speaker 1>minute or two after seven thirty sec plus has it.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course we urge you to sing things up

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<v Speaker 1>with our radio call with mister Darren Hedrick coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in just a few minutes. Of course, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk tonight about Kentucky's win over Vanderbilt last night. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a must win anytime you play at home, of

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<v Speaker 1>course you got to protect the home court, but especially

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<v Speaker 1>now with postseason, with postseason coming up so quickly, both

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC if you've got to get that at least

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<v Speaker 1>one by one night by and Indian say, rack up

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<v Speaker 1>as many wins as you can, but protect that home court. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>tough for the Wildcats because as we all know, terrible

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<v Speaker 1>terrible injury problems in the back court and we may

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<v Speaker 1>not see any of these three by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. I'm hoping we see Lamont Butler, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>sooner than later. You got to think Crisa would be

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<v Speaker 1>back by now. But I have no idea what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on from here with him. Don't know if Butler's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need postseason surgery, you know, if it's torn labram or

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<v Speaker 1>just a spring or whatever. And every time I think

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<v Speaker 1>about what Pope has said about Jackson Robinson, I just

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<v Speaker 1>really wonderful'll ever see him again this year in a

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky uniform. So he just got to move on. And

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<v Speaker 1>Pope again last night called it a new season. He's

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<v Speaker 1>called it that before, not just you know, hang in there,

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<v Speaker 1>guys till the troops get back. But regardless, last night

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<v Speaker 1>was a big win, and it was tight in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half and looked like the first Kentucky Vanda and

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<v Speaker 1>saw actually Vandy jump out to a big league Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>came all the way back, took a nice lead, then

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<v Speaker 1>blew it. But last night the Wildcats really exerted themselves

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<v Speaker 1>and imposed their will in the second half against Vandy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Chandler had a big game, no question about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about him coming up after the break,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically because there was a lot of postgame talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him from Pope and his teammates and Colin. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you heard his interview with Jack Gibbons. But

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<v Speaker 1>early in the second half, I mean, the first several possessions,

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<v Speaker 1>it was obvious, it was clear. I tweeted as much.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw it, you heard it, Tom and Jack talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Kentucky went to the bigs. Kentucky went to

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Williams and Andrew Carr. And it's not as though

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<v Speaker 1>Vandy didn't have any size of its own, but Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 1>bigs played really well last night. Andrew Carr looked healthy

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in forever. I mean, he's played,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had that back injury. And Pope talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how well Carr played at a time they needed it

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for the last month, we felt like we've

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<v Speaker 2>been without three of our leaders in Lamont and Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>and Drew. And he's been working so hard to find

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<v Speaker 2>his way back, and I thought he was brilliant. He

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<v Speaker 2>really did look like his old, physical, attacking self.

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<v Speaker 3>The last two days were the first time where he

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<v Speaker 3>had back to back essentially full practices, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>he felt much better jumping back into the starting lineup,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was really really good tonight. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we all know this Andrew Carr that performed tonight against

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<v Speaker 2>a really imposing frontline. That's a terrific defensive team. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a really special Manerbille defensive team, and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was terrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Pope also gave credit both in the media session and

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom Leech to Angley Almanor, who was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who had to sort of take a step back, lost

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<v Speaker 1>some minutes because he was playing a lot more. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he started a game or two, didn't he with Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Carr either completely sidelined or slowed by that back injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But he gave Almonor full credit for accepting his role.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he said he went and talked to him

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that Andrew's going to start, get more minutes, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>He just said, all right, coach, let's go. And it

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<v Speaker 1>worked out, didn't it. Amari Williams man I was a

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<v Speaker 1>man played huge and Pope brought up, of course, metrics

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<v Speaker 1>that can tell us just how well Williams is playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys we're witnessing, you know, we're seeing all these metrics

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<v Speaker 2>right now where Amari right now is top five all

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<v Speaker 2>time in the SEC in terms of PR forty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>top five all time, Like that's insane what we're witness

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<v Speaker 2>seeing him do. He is, he is a unique player,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's just getting more and more confident, more and

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<v Speaker 2>more comfortable. He's getting more and more confident around the rim,

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<v Speaker 2>where he's all you know he was he was not

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<v Speaker 2>unstoppable at the rim early in the season because he

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<v Speaker 2>would get rushed. Right now, he's just like, yep, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna go to work down here, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get to two feet, just kind of go to I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was brilliant tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>And again that's something that Pope brought up on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>but he gave more of an explanation. I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>assumed the media folks it would either look it up

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<v Speaker 1>or knew what it was. Par looks at average points

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<v Speaker 1>plus assists plus rebounds per game all right now, he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing about twenty one minutes a game, Amari Williams. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you do just rough estimates and round down, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say twenty minutes a game is so double it right average,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be averaging twenty points, sixteen rebounds, and six assists

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<v Speaker 1>per game. That's as good or better than Oscar she

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<v Speaker 1>Boy numbers incredible. So when you look at how Vanderbilt

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<v Speaker 1>went after Williams last time they played and did a

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<v Speaker 1>good job compared to this time, it was a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mark Byington, the Mandy coach, brought that up as well,

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<v Speaker 1>or was at least asked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's huge. You know, if he was six six,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't worry about it. But his arms are incredibly long.

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<v Speaker 5>He's tall.

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<v Speaker 4>We know he's going to his left hand. Everybody in

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<v Speaker 4>the country knows he's going to his left hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Still tough to stop. And we were a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Undersized, and we didn't want to double because he's a

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<v Speaker 4>great passer. So if you double, you know, then he

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<v Speaker 4>gives up threes. And the first game we played him,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought we did a good job of kind of

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<v Speaker 4>keeping him from getting to a deep post position. Today

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<v Speaker 4>he did a really good job, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>especially in the second half. It was a problem for

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<v Speaker 4>us in the second half.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, one of the things that Amari has done of

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<v Speaker 1>late is play more physically and this has been a process,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pope talked about this as well, because he's learning

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<v Speaker 1>what he can get away with, essentially my words. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Pope talked about getting the whistle or whatever, but basically

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<v Speaker 1>what he talked about was what can you get away with.

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<v Speaker 1>At Drexel, he was the biggest, the strongest, the longest,

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest and planning in smaller guys, so no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>within the eyes of the officials he had perhaps advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Disadvantage was throwing his weight around and they probably called

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<v Speaker 1>more fouls. But in the SEC you can get away

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot inside. My man Cameron Mills and I

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<v Speaker 1>argue about this. He hates the fact that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they call hand checking out on the perimeter, fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>that comes with officials looking at trying to stop a

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<v Speaker 1>guy from getting where he wants to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle in the paint, it's just about body on body contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Those same guards who might be called for fouls for

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<v Speaker 1>hand checking outside if they're inside, as Colin Chandler was

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<v Speaker 1>banging around the rebound, that's not a foul, at least

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<v Speaker 1>not at the SEC level. So Marii talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>difference now and what he knows he can do physically.

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<v Speaker 6>In that conference, it was like, you know, the charges,

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<v Speaker 6>if you keep banging too much, they'll just droping. That's

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<v Speaker 6>something I was always worry of my four years Batu, Like, now,

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<v Speaker 6>no big is really going to do that. They kind

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<v Speaker 6>of go pride and taking stand. So just knowing that

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<v Speaker 6>and just knowing how to get around it is something.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be a lot more fun for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to get in there and be as

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<v Speaker 1>physical as he needs to be and make things work.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the break, I did want to share with you

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<v Speaker 1>comments from Pope about whether or not this team is

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<v Speaker 1>where he needs it to be. Defensively, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>how good are they right now? They're better than you were.

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<v Speaker 1>How good are they?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a lot of roomment for improvement because we're

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<v Speaker 2>not great, so but we're we're getting better, and with

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<v Speaker 2>this new group, we're getting better. I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Perry had a really really hard job tonight and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he stood in there admirably, right I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about on the defensive end. And Colin Chandler I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was really really good on the defensive end and still

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<v Speaker 2>you know, has a ton of room to grow up,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's able to catch move time time. And you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>think about this. I have Trent Noah. I know Trent

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make any shots tonight, but I have Trent Noah

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<v Speaker 2>guarding Jason Edwards, their leading scorer a microwave score like

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<v Speaker 2>five eleven. Jet guard for four and five minutes stretches

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<v Speaker 2>during the course of this game. And if you had

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<v Speaker 2>asked me at the be of the season if that

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be the game plan, I would have said, no, never.

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<v Speaker 2>But but it's been forced, honest, and these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>stepping up into do it. I thought Trent Noah gave

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<v Speaker 2>us a really really special defensive effort.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really great and that is what

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<v Speaker 1>will take them where they want to be here as

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<v Speaker 1>far as they can go in the postseason. They're gonna score.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna run into a night though, and you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it where the shots that starn't falling. Can you get

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<v Speaker 1>through by winning with defense? Early in the year, the answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but this team was no. It was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst defensive teams in the country, just like Caliperi's team

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<v Speaker 1>last year. It's getting better with every game basically might

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<v Speaker 1>not look at always, but they're not giving up one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred points a game right now. And we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>they do against Alabama. They're gonna need to control tempo

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<v Speaker 1>against Alabama. Can they do that and can they win

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<v Speaker 1>doing it? Obviously that's the question. And if they don't, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they may have a little bit of fun

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<v Speaker 1>in the postseason, but it won't last long enough before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the break. Comments from Mark Pope about

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<v Speaker 1>the charity drive from last night, Don't Any Can Goods

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<v Speaker 1>and raising money for the flood victims in Eastern Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, giving supplies and giving donations a cash to

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<v Speaker 2>the people of eastern Kentucky is really important right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The website is UK Athletics dot com forward slash flood

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<v Speaker 2>Relief and I've been in contact with Governor for share

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<v Speaker 2>several times and and the the donations there one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no administrative overhead. One hundred goes to serving these people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to start. The first bunch of money is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna is going to be dedicated to to paying for

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<v Speaker 2>funerals to the fourteen I think that's still the number,

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<v Speaker 2>the fourteen people that passed in the flood, and then

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<v Speaker 2>emergency services for these families. So we're just asking everybody

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<v Speaker 2>if they can jump in. And I couldn't be more

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<v Speaker 2>grateful to BBN. We put a giant truck out there

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<v Speaker 2>and it's full, and that just is man, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>I get the rupp Aerna fairly early when I go

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<v Speaker 1>and last night I brought them can goods and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just about to drop mine on the handcart.

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<v Speaker 1>she went ahead of me. I said, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>had a huge, huge bag. I had a smaller bag

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<v Speaker 1>were people already putting stuff in the truck. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was really impressive what the Big Boe Nation did last night.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll talk about Chandler on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Big Blullonsider. Coming up at a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Woods will join us and break down last night's

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<v Speaker 1>win over Vanderbilt. Sewn usually with us on Wednesday, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we had basketball last night, and I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you he liked what he saw from the Wildcats. Then

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<v Speaker 1>at seven fifteen pregame Kentucky women's basketball Darren Hedrick's got

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Chandler had his best game as a Wildcat last night,

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<v Speaker 1>no question. Only one of four from beyond the arc,

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<v Speaker 1>but seven points, six rebounds, and a couple of assists,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of steels, two turnovers in what fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was obviously playing with a lot of confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of smarts, and a lot of heart, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was happy that he played well and talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that his fellow freshman Travis Perry and Trendeou

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<v Speaker 1>have had a little bit of success and they've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of helped him along.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean it's it's tough. I mean it's tough

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<v Speaker 8>stepping in and especially in a league like the SECS

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<v Speaker 8>and playing at Kentucky, there's a big adjustment to it.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think we're all we're all in it together,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's nice to have people to to relate to

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<v Speaker 8>each other. And and so those guys have been a

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<v Speaker 8>big blessing in my life eric Kentucky, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 8>to go through this journey with them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Carr, as we mentioned earlier, looking healthy, looking much better,

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<v Speaker 1>also very happy for his young teammate.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm really proud of me that he really didn't know. Man,

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<v Speaker 9>super proud of him. We're super super proud. You see

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<v Speaker 9>how much he how hard he works and everything, and

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<v Speaker 9>you know, it's the same thing for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of similar.

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<v Speaker 9>He really obviously wants to be able to step up

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<v Speaker 9>gonna happen for him. He's been a great done a

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<v Speaker 9>great job and practice for us. And so being able

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<v Speaker 9>to see, you know, like you're talked about seeing those

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<v Speaker 1>You have to remember a couple of things. Chandler, for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it's worth, was rated higher as a high school

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<v Speaker 1>prospect then both Perry and Noah. I mean, he had

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<v Speaker 1>Utah and all that, but hadn't played organized basketball, especially

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<v Speaker 1>So now he comes back and he's just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get back in the swing of things and like everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>good athlete and he showed it last night, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't surprise his coach, I guess. And leave it to

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope to come up with an interesting analogy to

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<v Speaker 1>describe just how well Chandler has been coming along college.

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<v Speaker 2>Chandler, you know, we talk about these bamboo trees. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys know the deal about these bamboo trees. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about a bamboo force, you know, a bamboo

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<v Speaker 2>tree can grow up to I think the Guinness Will

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<v Speaker 2>Book of World Records, it's thirty six inches in a day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think thirty five inches in a day. What happens

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<v Speaker 2>is they grow over time. They go these massive networks

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<v Speaker 2>of roots growing, grown, grown, growing, growing. You don't see

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<v Speaker 2>it right, and then all of a sudden they shoot

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<v Speaker 2>up out of the ground and they're going a yard

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<v Speaker 2>a day almost, which is almost incomprehensible. That's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of Colin Channel, like he's been growing big time

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<v Speaker 2>roots and the place he made today he's been making

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<v Speaker 2>in practice, and he is going to help us in

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<v Speaker 2>a huge way. As we moved down the stretch. I

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<v Speaker 2>was really proud of him tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a really entertaining analogy. And I only know

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<v Speaker 1>this about bamboo trees. Number one. When I lived in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>there were houses that backed up to these busy thoroughfares

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<v Speaker 1>like Northwest Highway is a big one in Dallas, really

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<v Speaker 1>expensive homes. So in order to cut down on noise,

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<v Speaker 1>people planted bamboo because it grew so thick and so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost like a green wall of vegetation behind

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<v Speaker 1>their homes. But a friend of mine used to live

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<v Speaker 1>to try to cut down on the noise. And all

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<v Speaker 1>that well, it worked, except it grew so fast he

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<v Speaker 1>So if Chandler's coming along as fast as bamboo, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a really interesting place for Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 1>to go, describing Colin Chandler's growth as something that you

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<v Speaker 1>might see in a bamboo forest. And remember, now, bamboo

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<v Speaker 1>is not just like those fishing canes. It can grow

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<v Speaker 1>a foot around and really strong and thick. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's the proper analogy. Who knows? All right? Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next, Sean Woods. We'll talk with us about last

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<v Speaker 1>night's went over Vanderbilt later on at UK women's basketball

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider this Thursday. Boy

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<v Speaker 1>had basketball last night, so tonight we talked with the

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<v Speaker 1>Unforgettable Guard showing Woods' jersey hangs in the rafters of RUP.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night, Sean Vandy comes to town, a Vandy team

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<v Speaker 1>to beat Kentucky. As you know down in Nashville, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember much of the game except I remember watching

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<v Speaker 1>the ticket how is this happening? And then last night

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<v Speaker 1>the first half of it kind of looked like a

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<v Speaker 1>similar game. What changed at halftime? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? First of all, Kentucky came out more aggressive defensively,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought. And then two, you know, it's hard winning

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<v Speaker 5>at Bandy. I don't care how good you are. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care how good we as a Kentucky team. They

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<v Speaker 5>always find a way every so often every year, two

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<v Speaker 5>three whatever to beat us at Bandy, and that happens.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care how good your team is. That just

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<v Speaker 5>happened at Bandy's. It just does. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't panic with that one, because you know, you never

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<v Speaker 5>can't get used to that arena, You never can't get

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<v Speaker 5>to the dynamics of it and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 5>that wasn't big for me. I just wanted to make

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<v Speaker 5>sure that we took took care of business here. Even

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<v Speaker 5>though we're hurt and injured, we still got good enough

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<v Speaker 5>to beat Bandy at home, and we were last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like at one point Kentucky missed like eight

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<v Speaker 1>of nine or nine a ten three point shots. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like they were working, they were hunting three pointers

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<v Speaker 1>preps a little too much, just you know, my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>One man's opinion uh. And in the second half, clearly

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<v Speaker 1>they thought let's attack the rim. They used the size,

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<v Speaker 1>they used Car, that use Williams and and really went

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<v Speaker 1>out and established things.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you see it that way, Dick, I'm gonna say this,

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<v Speaker 5>It was like that. And the reason being because when

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<v Speaker 5>you're scouting Kentucky you already know that they want to

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<v Speaker 5>shoot thirty threes. Okay, So what you do is you

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<v Speaker 5>get delusional on the fact that Alway can drive you.

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<v Speaker 5>You get delusional that Williams is better than what you

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<v Speaker 5>think he is off the bounds, taking it from coast

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<v Speaker 5>to coast, or even just getting to his left hand.

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<v Speaker 5>He's so strong, you know, to get that car can

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<v Speaker 5>score when he gets to his spot. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>from a defensive standpoint, you put so much coaches and

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<v Speaker 5>other teams put so much emphasis on the three point

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<v Speaker 5>shot that they they really they don't really respect. They

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<v Speaker 5>disrespect the fact that Alway and those guys can get

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<v Speaker 5>to the rim and finish better than what you think.

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<v Speaker 5>And like I told you last week, Dick, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>a surprise that we're better defensively. We can play defense

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<v Speaker 5>when we want to individually, and now that we've been

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<v Speaker 5>smacked in the face. We've been embarrassed a few games

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<v Speaker 5>going that they can compete, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 5>and and and that's what's happening. And I'm not seeing

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<v Speaker 5>be the best defensive team in the country, but my god, compete.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what they're doing right now, and it's given

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<v Speaker 5>them chance to win. And I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 5>major part in the game last night.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about the fact to your point, that they

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<v Speaker 1>in practice on defense and it's paying off, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well. I think Pope has grown up a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>too and realized that defense is more is just as

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<v Speaker 5>important as that offense. And you know, you can't just

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<v Speaker 5>practice all day shooting threes. You got to really defend,

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<v Speaker 5>and you got to have defensive principles. You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't seeing team defense. I wasn't seeing up the line defense.

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<v Speaker 5>I really wasn't seeing just fundamental defense like help side

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<v Speaker 5>and things like that. I saw it last night. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's what you gotta work on, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm sure next year from summertime, whenever he gets

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<v Speaker 5>you know, gets this team back together, with all the

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<v Speaker 5>transfers and everybody, I would hope that defense would be

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<v Speaker 5>a significant part of his workouts. Uh. And two, all

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<v Speaker 5>you got to do is watch coach Patina. I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>being honest with you. You know, you come in here and

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<v Speaker 5>you say we're gonna be worked as hard and we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be the hardest working team in America. Well that

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<v Speaker 5>that goes on the defensive end, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>now you're doing it. But you you know what I'm saying, Hopeles,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not too late, but you know it's one your

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<v Speaker 5>game or two. But next year you got to really

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<v Speaker 5>hone in playing defense teams defense, you know, really concentrate

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<v Speaker 5>on that because Coach Patino is one of the worst

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<v Speaker 5>shooting teams in the Big East, but he's the best,

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<v Speaker 5>because how tough they are.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk about we'll talk about Patina a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more in the second half of the interview here

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<v Speaker 1>because Sean and I have both been watching the documentary

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<v Speaker 1>where does where does this put Kentucky right now? I mean,

418
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<v Speaker 1>you got two brutally tough games coming up. You got

419
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<v Speaker 1>Alabama on the road, You do have Oklahoma which is struggling,

420
00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:32.759
<v Speaker 1>but then Auburn comes to town. Uh, we're gonna learn

421
00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:37.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot more about this team pretty soon, aren't we.

422
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<v Speaker 5>No doubt about it? And you know, not only we

423
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:41.359
<v Speaker 5>better defend, we bet it tough enough, and we bet

424
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<v Speaker 5>a man up and we better hit that that that

425
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<v Speaker 5>that weight room a little more, uh, these couple of weeks,

426
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:51.880
<v Speaker 5>because these guys are strong, they're massive, and they're relentless

427
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.240
<v Speaker 5>at chasing that ball. And then it's gonna be You

428
00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:57.319
<v Speaker 5>think the beginning of the year was physical, now there's

429
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.279
<v Speaker 5>saying a lot of things on the line as far

430
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<v Speaker 5>as seating things like that. Guys are desperate and you

431
00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:06.799
<v Speaker 5>see how hard these other teams are playing, you know,

432
00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:10.079
<v Speaker 5>spec you know a lot of Texas, you know, desperate

433
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:14.440
<v Speaker 5>and were in that desperate mode too, of you know,

434
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.640
<v Speaker 5>trying to make a good run going into the postseason,

435
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:23.240
<v Speaker 5>and not only that, creating a defensive mentality and identity

436
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 5>going down the stretch, because if we don't, uh, this

437
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.240
<v Speaker 5>postseason is not gonna be as good as we would like,

438
00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:32.119
<v Speaker 5>and it's not gonna last as long as we wanted

439
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<v Speaker 5>to last.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Either I did think I saw more health side defense

441
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>last night, or was I imagining that.

442
00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.559
<v Speaker 5>You saw a little better defense, a little more health

443
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.200
<v Speaker 5>side defense, you know, And I thought I thought Vanderbilt

444
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 5>really got out of character a little bit. But to

445
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<v Speaker 5>to Kentucky's credit, they were trying ISOs on on Perry

446
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.880
<v Speaker 5>and whenever there wasn't help, they went right by him.

447
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<v Speaker 5>And you know, Kentucky, you know, kind of a little bit,

448
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.039
<v Speaker 5>but it's got to be you know, it's got to

449
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 5>be often and all the time. You know, it's we

450
00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.720
<v Speaker 5>got to be like that up the line, doing what

451
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.920
<v Speaker 5>our defensive principle should be doing in order for us

452
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<v Speaker 5>to have a chance. And I thought, for once we

453
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:18.920
<v Speaker 5>were plugging up the lanes. We were hedging up the

454
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<v Speaker 5>lane far as taking away driving lanes. And thank god

455
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.200
<v Speaker 5>them being on the road, they didn't shoot as good

456
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<v Speaker 5>as they would have. Especially.

457
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<v Speaker 1>Uh, let's talk a little bit about Colin Chandler, a

458
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>guy who had been away from basketball, if you can imagine,

459
00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>for two years from organized basketball. Uh So it's taking

460
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>him a little longer, I think, to come around. Uh,

461
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.319
<v Speaker 1>but he clearly had his best game last night. He

462
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>looks to me a civilian. Uh like his quart awareness.

463
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<v Speaker 1>You know he's got he's got good physical skills, he's quick,

464
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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's got a pretty good basketball IQ.

465
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<v Speaker 1>But from where I sat, his best game and it

466
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<v Speaker 1>came a good time, didn't it.

467
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 5>No doubt about it. His best basketball is ahead of him, thinking,

468
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, we can't ask a kid. That's the one

469
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 5>thing about having to take those Mormon trips and things

470
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 5>like that. You can't sit out in today's they are

471
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:18.200
<v Speaker 5>college basketball man for two years and expect to come

472
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 5>back and be a big time contributor. You know, it's

473
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 5>already hard enough to train every day and still not

474
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 5>be good enough when you're out for two years. Come on,

475
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 5>you know you're time off. You know, you really come

476
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 5>out of high school so you haven't been coached and

477
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 5>know the nuances of college basketball. The game's fast, guys

478
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:45.039
<v Speaker 5>are more stronger, So you know he's behind. But after

479
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 5>this year, he's in a summer. I look for him

480
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 5>to be a major contributor next year for this Wildcat team.

481
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you make that jump from first year to second

482
00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.079
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty substantial, isn't it.

483
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.559
<v Speaker 5>And I think Perry's going to be better next year. Too,

484
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 5>just because he's better now. I don't know if he's

485
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 5>gonna be a starter, you know, but he's going to

486
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 5>be a more He's gonna be better defensively. I think

487
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 5>I think he's gonna play with more confidence because I

488
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 5>still think he's a little shaky out there with getting

489
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.799
<v Speaker 5>pressured because he gives the ball up too early. I mean,

490
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 5>you get in him. He gives the ball up before

491
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 5>he gets to Havelf court. That lets me know that

492
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:27.359
<v Speaker 5>here to death. So he's got to get more confident

493
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 5>in the off season, and they need to start playing

494
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 5>pickup more. Yeah, you know made us in the off season.

495
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 5>You know, these guys don't play pickup as much, you know,

496
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.640
<v Speaker 5>with their individual workouts. And that's one thing we're gonna

497
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 5>talk about with coach Patina when you watch his documentary.

498
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 5>Individual instruction is key, and that's got to be just

499
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 5>as much influenced in your day to day from a

500
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:54.799
<v Speaker 5>college basketball program standpoint than anything else because skill development

501
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 5>is where it is. And I'm sure that coach Pope

502
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 5>and those guys are going, uh, you know, put their

503
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 5>individual instruction thing together and and and and make him

504
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 5>a more confident guard to where he can withstand pressure

505
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 5>and get across half court and sometimes, you know, fool

506
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 5>some people and get by him and get to the

507
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 5>rim a little bit and finish better. So you know

508
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 5>that there's a lot of growth with these young guys.

509
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 5>But in the midst one thing they can do is

510
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 5>if you leave them open for the most part, they

511
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 5>can make a jump. So that them a chance, because

512
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 5>if they couldn't shoot, they wouldn't you know what I mean,

513
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 5>it wouldn't be the worst, wouldn't be touched on this team.

514
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 5>So thank god they do that, and I think they're

515
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 5>getting better. I just hope that they can withstand and

516
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 5>I hope Butler from what I'm hearing that maybe he

517
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.799
<v Speaker 5>can come back on Saturday. I don't know, but you

518
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:50.279
<v Speaker 5>know that Laborim deal that showed it there is it's tricky.

519
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 5>And do you want him now against Alabama or do

520
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.480
<v Speaker 5>you want a long haul round a week or two

521
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 5>longer to get ready for what's really, really, really important.

522
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I know what I would say, but I don't have

523
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a vote, So we'll leave it at that and we'll

524
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 1>come back and talk more with Sean on the other

525
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 1>side of the break, including our thoughts on Red Storm

526
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 1>rising that's the documentary series on the Vice Channel about

527
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Saint John's and Shawn's former coach Rick Patino. Back in

528
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a minute here on six thirty WIP Welcome back. We're

529
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>talking with Sean Woods, the Unforgettable guard whose jersey hangs

530
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>in the rafters of RUP and he and I have

531
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>both been checking out Red Storm Rising. It's the Vice

532
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Channel series documentary series. They got one going on John Caliperi,

533
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>but also on Rick Pattino year old coaching. Before we

534
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>went on the air, I asked you if you were

535
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>having flashbacks watching because I remember once you told me

536
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that you thought Rick had mellow just a little bit,

537
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>but eastounds pretty salty to me. What are your impressions

538
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of that series, Dick, I'm just.

539
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 5>Gonna be straight with you. That's coaching. That's why he's

540
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 5>the best. Yeah, Nope. Long as he's got breath in

541
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 5>his body, as long as he's got his core is

542
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 5>good to where he can roar like he roars, as

543
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 5>long as his mind is as sharp as it is,

544
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.160
<v Speaker 5>he can coach till he's on a hundred years old,

545
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.240
<v Speaker 5>and he'll still be the best coach in America. That

546
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 5>is the best coach in the United States, bar none,

547
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:23.680
<v Speaker 5>and all he's doing is just giving you a taste

548
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 5>of education on what makes him great. That voice when

549
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 5>it roars, Oh my god, brought back memories. You know,

550
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 5>the f bombs that come out of his mouth, hot mouth,

551
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.960
<v Speaker 5>and he's spitting in your face and things like that.

552
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Speaker 5>We used to put towels over our face all the

553
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 5>way over our nose. Just the only thing was showing

554
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 5>was our eyes because he becoming at you. And so

555
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 5>sometimes those those those little bombs, those you know, spit bombs,

556
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:58.519
<v Speaker 5>hitting you dead, but he's dead on point. Everything comes

557
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 5>out of his mouth. His own point is strategic, and

558
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 5>he challenges you and he hits you in the core

559
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 5>and go ahead.

560
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Coaching is more than just dropping F bomb. So what

561
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>is It's not so much how he said, what about

562
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 1>what he is saying? Not so much how he said.

563
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I know he drives it home with decibel levels and

564
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>creativity in his language. But you know, I can't get

565
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 1>out there and then try to teach people how to

566
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>play basketball and think I'm you know, coaching, Well, if

567
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm cussing a bluestorm, what in fact does he say?

568
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>What does he see? And how does he break the

569
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>game down.

570
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:45.599
<v Speaker 5>So well, Okay, what he does is he challenges you. Okay,

571
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 5>he makes everybody uncomfortable about losing. That's his magic. Okay,

572
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 5>when he's miserable, everybody's miserable. I'm talking about from the

573
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:03.240
<v Speaker 5>janitor to the s I D Person in the build

574
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 5>to the assistant athletic director. Everybody is miserable. So and

575
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 5>everybody feels that rap when he's taken a loss. So

576
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 5>what he does is is just from day one, losing

577
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 5>is bad. You know. Losing is like saying, you know,

578
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm a gast god or something. I don't know, but

579
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 5>he just yeah, And you know what, That's why he's

580
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 5>the greatest because he doesn't accept losing at all, and

581
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 5>he's going to find a way to challenge you and

582
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 5>he's going to put you on the spot. He can

583
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 5>talk to everybody, but he can be talking to you.

584
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 5>It's like going to church and everybody's sitting in church

585
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 5>and a preacher's preaching, but you thinking that this preacher

586
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 5>is only talking to you. He's not just talking to you.

587
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 5>He's hitting everybody. And that's Coach Patino man, and that's

588
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 5>why he's the best. He can get guys to play

589
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 5>harder than any coach in America. This team is talented. Yeah,

590
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 5>they got two guys that are really really good. He

591
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 5>can get talented guys to buy in on that defensive

592
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 5>bench to where their ball is the most important deal.

593
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 5>And it's like train wrecks every single night when you

594
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 5>play those guys and to be down as many as

595
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 5>he was. And if you watch that documentary and when

596
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 5>he went in there and he said that speech, sixty

597
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 5>five percent of kids today would that quit. He's got

598
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 5>the guys that he wants and they can take him.

599
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 5>Everybody can't. And that's a shame. That's where this world

600
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:56.799
<v Speaker 5>is coming to. That's why this team, as Saint John's

601
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 5>is one of the top five or six teams in

602
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 5>America because he's got one of the top five to

603
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 5>six teams character wise who can take coaching in America

604
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 5>that can take him. You know, he doesn't dance around

605
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 5>a kid, you know what I'm saying, because he can

606
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 5>go in to transport, portal and things like that. So

607
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.679
<v Speaker 5>he is what college basketball, college athletics, and what young

608
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.320
<v Speaker 5>men need. They need constructive criticism, They need to be

609
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 5>told the truth. They need to know that underachieving and

610
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 5>being average is not acceptable, and that's who he is.

611
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 5>We're buying it, it's not buying it.

612
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 1>And yet the portal has changed that to a degree,

613
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>hasn't it. And if a kid doesn't like it and

614
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 1>yelled at well, I'm leaving. You know there's somebody over here.

615
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 1>He's got some nil money and he's going to be

616
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>nicer than me.

617
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but you know, you in a basketball you in war.

618
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 5>College athletics is for athletics is war. And when you

619
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 5>ask the kid to play defense, come on, you think

620
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 5>they will give you everything. Nobody, but but if there's

621
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 5>a fear factor, you're gonna play defense. And you saw

622
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.199
<v Speaker 5>the kid I forget. The kid's name is from Africa.

623
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 5>The kid that theyn't hardly ever played last night. I

624
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 5>watched him play last night after Kentucky. This kid hardly

625
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 5>ever played. He had double figures at halftime.

626
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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the kid who transferred from kid Zubie

627
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>what's his name? He transferred from Kansas because he wasn't

628
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no.

629
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<v Speaker 5>Not him, not the big fellow that wing that came okay,

630
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 5>and he played his behind off last night just with toughness.

631
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<v Speaker 5>You know, if you want to You tell me, Okay,

632
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 5>I want to be a high major player. I want

633
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:50.719
<v Speaker 5>to be a Division on player. I want to play

634
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<v Speaker 5>at Kentucky. Well, if you want to play at Kentucky,

635
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 5>I grew up in Kentucky. I want to play Kentucky. Okay,

636
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.239
<v Speaker 5>do you want not? Just do you want to play

637
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 5>at Kentucky. There's a price to pay when you come

638
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 5>play in Kentucky. And what that is is you got

639
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 5>to play at a national championship level every single night. Now,

640
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 5>if you can't do that, don't be mad because you're

641
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.719
<v Speaker 5>not playing. Don't be mad because they're going somewhere else

642
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 5>and getting a kid that can do that. And that's

643
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 5>where I'm at right now. Not knocking any of these kids,

644
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 5>but man, what do you think this was? You can't guard,

645
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 5>but you think you're good enough to play in Kentucky

646
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 5>because you're a mester basketball. Come on, man, this is

647
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 5>a different level. If you're going against Jergen knots who

648
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.760
<v Speaker 5>don't care about that they're coming at your neck and

649
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 5>you watch like Auburn and Alabama, these dudes don't care

650
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 5>about that. They embarrass you, and Facatino's teams don't get embarrassed.

651
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:51.719
<v Speaker 5>They embarrass you.

652
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 1>That's extra motivation for the you faced it and the

653
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>kids who play for Kentucky right now. It's taking them

654
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 1>a little while, I think to learn it, but that's

655
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>extra added motivation. And you know, everybody made fun of Caliperry,

656
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't wrong when he said it's everybody super Bowl.

657
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 5>No doubt about it, no doubt about it, you know.

658
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 5>And I'm so proud that finally these kids are are

659
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 5>answering the bill a little bit because I didn't buy it.

660
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 5>Don't tell me you can't play defense. Don't tell me

661
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 5>you can't. You can't play harder than what you're playing.

662
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 5>Don't tell me that a guy could just give you

663
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 5>a straight line without giving you a move b line

664
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 5>and he's beating you to the basket. You're not. Come on,

665
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't buy that as a coach, and there's no

666
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 5>excuse for me. You gotta have some will on your

667
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 5>own as a competitor to play defense. You a competitor.

668
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 5>It's like playing one on one. Okay, I'm not gonna

669
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 5>let you score, but I'm gonna score on you. That's

670
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 5>just a competitiveness, and that's how you win. You can't

671
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 5>you know just oh I want to play, you know,

672
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:00.039
<v Speaker 5>not playing no earn that deal because that guy that

673
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:01.679
<v Speaker 5>on the other side, you guess that could touch you

674
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 5>across your chest and that means you're supposed to be

675
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 5>better than that other team that got that name on

676
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 5>their chests.

677
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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll see if that plays out on Saturday when

678
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the Wildcasts play at Alabama. Whatever happens, we'll talk about

679
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it with Shawn Woods next week, the unforgetable Guard. And

680
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>we can't recommend it enough. If you can find the

681
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Vice channel on whatever however you get your TV, it's

682
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 1>well worth it. It's so good that Shawn Woods is

683
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>having flashed Rick Patino flashbacks. But you'll learn a lot

684
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>about Saint John's and uh, that's gonna be a team

685
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants a tournament time, am I right.

686
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.840
<v Speaker 5>No doubt about it. Guess what else, Dick, he still

687
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 5>makes those of minor suits look good too.

688
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't Yeah, and he always will he always will. Sean. Thanks,

689
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to you next week. Okay, coming up one

690
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>more segment then we'll make way for UK women's basketball

691
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>with Darren Hedrick All on the other side of the

692
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>break here on six thirty, Wlap Welcome back to the

693
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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue and Cider final segment of our program. We're

694
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna make way for Darren Hedrick pregame coverage of Kentucky

695
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 1>and Missou Wildcats are in Columbia there and are behind us.

696
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's a seven thirty start coming up some fifteen

697
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.199
<v Speaker 1>a pregame Darren and coach Kenny Brooks. Wildcats ranked fourteenth

698
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 1>in the country right now coming off that win over

699
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 1>those Georgia Bulldogs. Twenty and four. Now overall, Kentucky nine

700
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and three in the SEC, five and three on the

701
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>road in conference play. This is the best twenty four

702
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>game start since the twenty twelve thirteen season when the

703
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats began the year at twenty one and three, and

704
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the UK Women on social media moved to graphic describing

705
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the success so far this year under Kenny Brooks and

706
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 1>basically mentioned him as a Coach of the Year candidate

707
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>nationally now if not SEC, and of course why not?

708
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>And look, you can make the case for Vic Shaeffer Texas.

709
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he does deserve it. I don't think anybody expected

710
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Texas to win the SEC, but we all expected Texas

711
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.559
<v Speaker 1>to be good. He's a really good coach. Has a

712
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of good players. So does Don Staley at South Carolina,

713
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and we know how good they are, although they've struggled

714
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 1>at times this year. Lsu Kim Maulky. She'll always be

715
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in a discussion. I like to look at teams that

716
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<v Speaker 1>are overachieving. Where were they predicted to finish projected and

717
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.599
<v Speaker 1>where are they now? Nobody who covers SEC basketball the

718
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>women's side expected this patchwork team to be twenty and four.

719
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you that people who follow women's basketball

720
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>knew that when Georgia Amore and Clara Strack, but particularly

721
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>when Georgia transfer to Kentucky following Kenny Brooks, they knew

722
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 1>that was a game changer, literally game changer, a game

723
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>changing move that meant wins for Kentucky. But didn't mean

724
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>this many. Did it mean eighty four fifty five over Georgia,

725
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 1>which is not a great team but not a bad team.

726
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean Aymore an All American twenty one

727
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>points and seven assists in that one her twelve to

728
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty plus point game this year. Fifteen times she's gone

729
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or more points and five or more assists per game,

730
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 1>most of any player in the league since twenty two three.

731
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Tony Key is coming on strong. Jeff pi Corral on

732
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the show the other night. Believe she's kind of been

733
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:53.079
<v Speaker 1>my words, the secret sauce for this team. She had

734
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.679
<v Speaker 1>fourteen and fourteen, her tenth double double of the year

735
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>against those Bulldogs in her third straight. Melia Hassid comes alive.

736
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<v Speaker 1>She'd been struggling a bit. Kenny Brooks talked to A

737
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Darren about this on his radio show Monday night. Amelia's

738
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 1>confidence was down a bit, her physicality was down. She'd

739
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 1>been sick, but they didn't say anything about it, but

740
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>she looked like her old self against Georgia and Dojor

741
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence has been terrific all year long, first time. The

742
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats have won twenty games since the twenty nineteen twenty season,

743
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 1>and Brooks led their tied the late Terry Hall is

744
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the quickest head coach in program history to reach twenty

745
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>wins at UK. Terry Hall was the coach when the

746
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats won the SEC title back in eighty two. A

747
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of people think it was Debbie Yo. Debbie built

748
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that team. She recruited those kids. She recruited Valerie Still

749
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and Lee Wise and PJ. Hedges and Lisa Collins, and

750
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>they won a lot of games under Debbie. But Terry

751
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 1>was actually the head coach when they won the SEC title.

752
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So there's a there's a vote. I don't have one

753
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 1>for Kenny Brooks. Wouldn't be surprised if he won Coach

754
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.559
<v Speaker 1>of the Year in the league or nationally. You win

755
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the SEC Coach of the Year, you're absolutely up there

756
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 1>in the national picture. But again, I could see the

757
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>guy at Texas winning it a lot. There's a lot

758
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 1>to happen the next couple of weeks. Before we leave you,

759
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I need to share a couple of things with you.

760
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 1>One of them is making the rounds on social media.

761
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>If you go to Awful Announcing on Twitter or x

762
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you'll see a lot of talk about it. But one

763
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.719
<v Speaker 1>of the headline making sports happenings over the last few

764
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>days was the Hockey USA Canada fights breaking out. Within

765
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>nine seconds, Mark Pope shows video to his team to

766
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>hire it up for the Vandy game. You know, whatever

767
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you feel about hockey, hockey fights to me are boring

768
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the same thing over and over. You know, there's no

769
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 1>technique to it. They're just slugging away. They all look

770
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the same to me, people love them. I know when

771
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 1>the Thoroughblades were here my own kids, we'd be sitting

772
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:25.079
<v Speaker 1>up in the stands when my kids would run, like

773
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people run down to the glass and

774
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>press their nose against it to watch the fights. I

775
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 1>just think it's kind of dull. But that's me, and

776
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you could take it out of hockey today. Warner Wolf

777
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.760
<v Speaker 1>used to say, this institute of rule, drop your gloves.

778
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You're out of the game. Period. They don't have fighting

779
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>any Olympics, and Olympic hockey is great, but it's it's

780
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.480
<v Speaker 1>sadly or whatever you want to call it, a tradition

781
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in the NHL, in all hockey, at least professional hockey,

782
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>it is. But Molly Karum on ESPN called it hypocritical

783
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that some sports are allowed to fight and others are not.

784
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 1>And there are those who believe that she was trying

785
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 1>to invoke some sort of discussion about the fact that

786
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the NHL is predominantly white, and that she is trying

787
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to draw racism into the discussion. Maybe she was. If so,

788
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>it's idiotic, because look, the NHL governs itself. If the

789
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>NBA wanted to allow fights and assigned penalties as one

790
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:46.519
<v Speaker 1>person on Twitter said they could do that socad baseball,

791
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>so could the NFL. It's you for better or worse.

792
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>It's been a tradition. It's just silly to try to

793
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:01.519
<v Speaker 1>turn that discussion into something that it's not. In my opinion,

794
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.199
<v Speaker 1>whether she meant that or if she did, trying to

795
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>turn it into something it's just a waste of time.

796
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>So again, if you want to follow up on that,

797
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 1>go to awful announcing. It won't take you far. It

798
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 1>won't take you long, won't take you far, and you're

799
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>scrolling to find out right around the Draymond Green comments

800
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 1>about how the All Star Game is a joke anymore

801
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, But that's been happening for a while.

802
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Before I leave you, I got to share one other

803
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>thing with you. This is the strangest thing I've seen

804
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 1>in a while when it comes to injuries, and if

805
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 1>it's been out there, I missed it, So I apologize.

806
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>But Dustin May is a Dodgers pitcher who missed a

807
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 1>lot of time on the injured reserve list. The announcement

808
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>came in July of last year. That May he would

809
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>have been out since the middle of twenty three with the

810
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 1>torn flexer tendon in his right arm. We missed the

811
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:03.039
<v Speaker 1>rest of the twenty four season because of a tear

812
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 1>in his esophagus. Yeah, in his throat. And I'm only

813
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>now reading how it happened. The team said he suffered

814
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the tear at dinner one night and required medical intervention.

815
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Apparently in the La Times just had a story about

816
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>this within the last week May publicly now it's explaining

817
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>what happened. He choked on a piece of lettuce. He

818
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>was eating a salad at the Dodgers rehab facility in

819
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Arizona and began to choke and a very tiny piece

820
00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:45.119
<v Speaker 1>of lettuce caused a tear in his esophagus so badly

821
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 1>he needed emergency surgery and for the longest time couldn't

822
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 1>lift waste more than ten pounds. So that's set him

823
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 1>back in his recovery. It's not funny, but boys are bizarre, man,

824
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:59.079
<v Speaker 1>all right. Stay tuned out for women's basketball next with

825
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Darren Hedrick Cats in Missouri. That's coming on next on

826
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>six thirty. W do LA for you.

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<v Speaker 7>Anything? Then sat change tact that.

828
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<v Speaker 5>I think.

829
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<v Speaker 7>Can back from taunt. Then don't do
