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Speaker 1: And nine Ignition six five four three two one zero

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All engine running.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for

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Ignition with the aw Fadhab podcast team. This is Kelson

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and we're coming off of a W redemption on Sunday night.

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It was Sunday, wasn't it, guys. I can't tell anymore

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what day it is, and it's it's weird. But anyway,

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tomorrow night, Wednesday night, we are doing AW Dynamite, AW CLA.

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Are they taping both of these shows on the same

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night already, actually doing two nights in Detroit, you know,

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as anybody know.

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Speaker 3: I think they are doing both nights, but I'm not

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sure I.

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Speaker 2: See, Okay, So anyway, just keep in mind. I'm sorry

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I was reading the chat and kind of got distracted. Anyway,

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keep in mind that AW Dynamite will air at its

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normal time this week from Detroit, Michigan on Wednesday night

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at APM Eastern time, but Thursday AW Collision or airs

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this week on again on Thursday at APM Eastern time,

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all right, and then after Dynamite Tomorrow night. Just want

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to give everybody a reminder to go ahead and tune

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in to the EPW Show at EPW show on YouTube

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for Conrad and Derek and their AE Dynamite review show.

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They generally start that show pretty close to right after

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Dynamite ends, So I would say like ten minutes and

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it's really a fun show, So go ahead and give

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it a listen and just an interactive, very interactive and

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it's a lot of fun. And Val, you were going

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to talk to us about a special AW dynamite that's

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coming out.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Hello, everyone, this is Val So. AW announced earlier

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this week that they will do a very special dynamite

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it's called AW Rebel Heart Dynamite September ninth from Atkinsford

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Arena in Athens, Georgia, in support of aw's Rebel, who

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was diagnosed with ALS in March twenty six. If her

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health is good fingers crossed, she is scheduled to make

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a special appearance at that show. A donation will be

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made by ae W for im Als and Team Gleeson

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to very very good organization that promotes and support people

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with als. So tickets will go on sale this coming Friday,

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July July thirty. First. Sorry, there's official Rebel Heart shirts

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and bracelet. They are available on shop aw dot com,

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with one hundred percent of the profit going to im

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als and Team Gleason. If you want to donate, you

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can go to this website aewtogether dot com slash Rebel Heart.

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So I can't wait for that special episode of Dynamite.

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It's gonna be a little bit emotional. So our hearts

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goes out to Rebel and for that, let's talk Redemption.

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Speaker 4: Yes, speaking of redemption value, you had the pleasure of

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not only going to Redemption but enjoying the all elite experience. Yes,

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now I know with that. There, I know with that

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there's two different levels to that. Which one did you get?

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Speaker 3: I got the Champion, I got the Champion.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what you get with that one?

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Speaker 3: Well, you arrive early first, so you go around two

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hours before the show starts, before they open the doors.

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So there was a little miscommunication about the hour that

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we were supposed to come in. So the email that

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I got, I would say it was supposed to come

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by five pm, and the show started at se with

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all that was supposed to be that we were supposed

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to be doing, taking pictures and having a Q and

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to cut it, so I tried to reach them and

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never got a reply, which kind of which was like

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a bummer. So when I arrived on site, I arrived

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at around two PM because I wanted to be sure

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that I was there on time. And I spoke to

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a few other people who got the package as well,

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and they said, oh, we got another email saying it's

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at fours, like thank god, but I never got the email.

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So with that comes the early entrance. You can go

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to the merchandise stand to purchase any shirt that was

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available there, and then you had access also to take

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pictures with personalities. With aw personalities, it could have been

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either a wrestler or personality, but for us it was

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like two rough that was there with us and an

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access to a Q and A with some some wrestlers.

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Speaker 4: So some good, but you're mostly good. A little miscommunication,

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but overall I'm assuming you had a lot of fun,

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Yes you and your daughter?

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Speaker 3: Yes I did.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: I brought my seventeen year old daughter with me, so

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that it was our second time going with me to

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a wrestling show. So the first time she was around ten.

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watched the replay yesterday and then I finished it today

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and at the opening of the show, which was the

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ladder match. At the opening of the show, I saw

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her on TV and I show it to her and

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was like, Oh, that's so cool. I'm on TV and

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they cut it right at her. I was just next

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to her, so they didn't show my face, but she

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was there on TV and she thought it was cool.

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Speaker 1: And I got a question, that is, what what in

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terms of seating, what does champion get you versus the

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regular all elite experience.

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Speaker 3: The all elites? Uh, it's ring side, and you can

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also get a voucher for a food which I didn't get.

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And then also you can take a picture ringside. Where

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where is the ramp with the aw World Championship I believe,

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but a I got a picture with the unified title,

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which is cool.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the elite is like the yeah.

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Speaker 3: But we arrive at the same time. We arrive at

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the same time. No, they were fifteen minutes ahead of us,

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that's right, So they were fifteen minutes ahead of us.

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and then we arrive at four, but you know, we

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entered the arena at the same time as everybody else,

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but the elite got into their separate ways with a

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coordinator and then go to ringside and take pictures.

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Speaker 4: So that's very cool. You know, it sounds like quite

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the experience it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm eyeing some full gear tickets myself, so.

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Speaker 5: It's good to hear.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that's not until November. Let's let's talk

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about Redemption a little bit. I wanted to get y'all's

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opinions thoughts on like an overall overall show experience, you know,

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at home or I mean Valve between all of us,

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you were the only one in the state. But yeah,

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what did y'all think about Redemption?

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a good show overall. I'd give

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it a seven out of ten, seven and a half.

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Those those three opening matches were freaking fantastic. The first

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three matches of the show were just like, honestly, I

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think the best part of the show for me. There

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wasn't anything that I didn't that I just you know, like, oh,

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I hated that I thought the pain Maker psycho Killer

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could have been about five minutes shorter. You know, I

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don't think a tag team chain match works. It's just

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too it's just awkward. Other than those things, though, I

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enjoyed the show overall. It was a fun, entertaining watch

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the matches that were predictable. I enjoyed the journey of

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the matches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree, Well, don't you what.

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Speaker 2: Did you think? I want to agree? What you think?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: I honestly kind of put it lower, especially thinking about

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Aw's reputation with pay per views. It I think it

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lived up to the filler pay per view prediction that

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we all had before, which it's I don't think is

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a bad thing. I nothing was like, oh this is

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a major stinker. But overall, matches without build, and you know,

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I'm a sucker for a good match. I don't need

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that much of a build. But this is maybe the

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only time that I've thought this is too long of

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a pay per view. I'm all about getting my money's

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worth with a pay per view. I don't care if

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it goes six hours, except for this one. This one

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kind of I felt dragged a little bit. I do

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agree the first three matches were kind of the high

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spot and the main event, but other than that, Yeah,

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everything just seemed kind of kind of draggy. I think

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that's in part to some of the lineup that we

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have as champions and just some of the matches.

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Speaker 5: That we got.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think a five out of

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five is like, oh, that's terrible. I think in the

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scope of aw pay per views, I think it's it's

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just less than what we're used to, but overall, not

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terribly bad.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I said, you know, seven out of ten. A

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lot of stuff I liked, a few things I wasn't

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a big fan of, but overall could show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, well, I kind of agree. So seven out

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of ten. There's two matches that I didn't like watching

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it live, and then I watched the replay just to

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be sure that it was what I felt when I

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was at the at the Bell Center, and that was

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exactly the same, the same feeling I got. So the

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first three matches were incredible, incredible. So that was the

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highlight for me for for the for the show a

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little bit long, obviously, but that's what I That's what

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I said to myself, if I go there, it's going

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to probably finish at eleven maybe midnight. Thank god he

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Tony decided to start at seven not eight, because it

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would have been home like by two am, so that

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would have been like crazy. But it was good.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 3: The crowd was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's one of the things that kind

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of again, when you're looking at the crowd and when

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matches where the crowds were yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was wondering if it was a.

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Speaker 3: Thing personally, Like Chris mentioned the Dog versus j and Juice.

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it for me, and the crowd was like very very silent.

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like not in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of noticed that. Well, in my opinion,

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my thoughts in that AW is known for the pay

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per views that they put on. Let's just face it,

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you can't beat an AAW pay per view. If this

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pay per view was on any other company, it would

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have been excellent, But this is AW and it's held

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to higher standards as such. I give this. I'm struggling.

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I've been waffling between four and a half and five

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out of ten. So I'm just going to go four

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point seven five out of ten because there were some

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stuff in this pay per view that I really liked, loved,

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and there was stuff that I was just set. There

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was like I was struggling to pay attention and I

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hated the endings too.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that in our next segment. But one

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of the things that we do already know, unless something

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very odd happens, is that it will be Kenny Omega

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versus Will Osprey at all in London forty eight and

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w Men's World Championship. And I'm curious to ask you.

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I'm curious to hear from the audience and everything. By

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the way, fly Boy did say what's up cichos and

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where's my ciccos at? You know, and I put it

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up on the screen, but I didn't didn't read it

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when I put it up on the screen. Wolf is

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in the chat saying what's up Van hubb And and

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he did. He also said that you know, it's funny

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how seven out of ten paper you would be an

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eight or ten or ninety ten in any other promotion.

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And that's exactly what I'm saying. But anyway, let's get

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back to the task at hand. Kenny Omega, Will Osprey

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it all in. What are you guys feeling about this match? Excited,

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not excited, kind of stuck in the middle. What's your idea?

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, I'm sorry, I'm I'm off.

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Speaker 2: Well why are you saying that you're sorry? Because are

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you well?

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Speaker 3: Some people Will would probably love to see MJF going

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at it as well, so maybe a three way, but

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my heart is fully, fully into it after what I

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saw Sunday night, so I didn't I never thought that

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I would see what Kenny did to Will at the end.

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I thought it would be the other the other way around.

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So I was kind of surprised. But I was jumping, jumping, jumping,

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and my daughter was looking at me. It's like, Mama,

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what's happening? And I tried to explain a little bit

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of the storyline and she understood a little bit. But

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it made for me, It made it made sense for

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Kenny to do. And I went online and talked to

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some of my friends that I have on Twitter, I'm

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sorry on ex and they were like, is it a

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heel turn? Is it not? And some of them said yes,

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some of them say no, and my head says no.

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But I kind of understand what he did.

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Speaker 6: It's it was a call back, yeah, said Will Osprey

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like his hero AJ style, because.

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Speaker 4: That is exactly what Kenny did to AJ when he

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ticked him out of the Bullet Club. He had him

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get up on the corner and celebrate and went up

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bo hit the one wing.

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Speaker 3: I saw the video, I was like, oh, I thought

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I saw that somewhere and was like, yes, that made sense.

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Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely not, absolutely not a heel turned.

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I think this deepens Osprey because this is who Max

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has been telling Osprey to be, and Kenny is the

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one who you know, is that guy right now, and

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he's that guy because he will pull the trigger. It's

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also a bit of a receipt, I think, you know,

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it's it's like a big one told you so, Yeah,

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why are you dealing with these guys? So the only

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thing that I may give that's kind of heelish is

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the flex with the young bucks at the end hitting

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the elite pose. That seems like, okay, you're a little

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insult to injury. But the win winged angel I thought

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was beautiful. I almost turned it off because you know,

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they were just celebrating. I was actually walking up to

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to turn off the TV and then it happened, And

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I'm glad it worked out that way, But I don't

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think it's a he'll turn it's and.

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Speaker 5: We have another month.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm sold on the match, and there's

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still a whole other month for them to you know,

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kind of deal with each other backstage and in the ring.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think this is gonna be more

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of a face face match, but being in Wimbley, Osprey's

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gonna have more of the crowd initially behind him, So

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Kenny won't work full on heel, but he'll definitely work

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more heal with than normal because you know, the fans

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are gonna here for both of them, but Osprey's still

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the hometown and got.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this, if this

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was not at all in, if this, if this was

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at all out, if this was at any other aw

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pay per view, this match would happen on DYNA. Wait,

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this would this is not a pay per view match?

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This is this is not a pay per view match,

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And I say that No, Well, okay, when did will

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Osprey come back from his uh in relation to the

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owen Hart Tournament, he came back from his injury a

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few weeks before the own Heart tournament began. As soon

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as he came back, every single person and if you

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if you deny this is the truth, then you're lying.

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And I honestly believe that when will Osprey came back

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from his nec fusion surgery before the participants in the

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Owen Heart, before the own Hart was even announced, we

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knew that will Osprey was going to all in and

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he was going to win the aw World Championship in

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front of his home crowd. Period. That's it. It kind

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of made Osprey's run. Thank goodness for John Moxley and

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the Death Riders who are putting a little bit of

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a spit on it. But there's no way Omega's going

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to win this match. Will Osprey is going to win

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this match, and it's going to be a complete waste

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of several months unless you're just you know, it just

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doesn't make any sense to me. This is absolutely poor

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booking in my opinion. As far as the older, I'm

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not saying it's poor booking putting him in, putting Osprey

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in the in the all in match for the World Championship,

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but the whole owen Hart tournament was a waste. You know,

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Sure it had some banger matches, but I've always said

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you have to have banger matches just for the sake

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of having banger matches. Meets is meaningless to me. It

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has to be a point to it. And I'm sorry

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this this is awful.

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Speaker 5: I think this is what I literally have.

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Speaker 2: No interest in watching this match. Zero interesting.

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Speaker 4: Use the same analygy I've been using for a while.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I know Superman is going to beat Lex Luthor, but

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I enjoy seeing how he does it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we've talked about predictability isn't always bad,

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and we're getting exactly what we talked about for months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, look Conrad Cushman from the EPW Show.

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That's just one of his favorite lines when we talked privately,

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is like, predictability isn't always bad. But what you're saying

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predictability isn't always bad two three, four times a week,

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then you kind of got to say predictability is bad.

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If it's that bad, you know, if you're saying that

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that often, it's bad, and this is bad I'm sorry,

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it's bad.

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Speaker 1: We do have will Osprey completely on his own now. Yeah,

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before he had the Death Riders, and now he's lost

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their trust. He's lost Kenny's trust, you know who. He's

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got a month to kind of vent for himself.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kenny has really been on his own, you know,

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up until you know, the the elite just kind of

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got back in his corner. And Austbury's not has been

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on his own for a while before this. So Joy Chris,

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I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say. Now Osprey, you know he may

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not even really have United Empire. I mean, right now,

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for sure he doesn't because you know, Callum Newman's Rake Lee,

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all the Great Oakcloumn they're busy in the t one,

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but they're kind of pissed because it's like they came

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and fought for him against the Death Riders and then

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he's like, okay, well now I'm gonna go kill him

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these guys of the Horrible.

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Speaker 2: That really was bad. Oh God, I'm sorry, go ahead

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to to you. We're gonna say something.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I kind of send most of

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my piece. I guess will Osbury being completely alone. Now

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there's still a month left you know who knows what happens.

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And the whole thing with Mox is about him kind

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of leveling up and becoming a killer because he hasn't been.

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He's had world championship matches and lost him he hasn't

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held this title, you know, and this is kind of

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his last or or this is putting him in a

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position to evolve into that killer. You know, Mox has

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done it a couple of times. He knows what it takes,

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so you know, now now he's he's got to crack

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the code by himself. That finally see.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not getting when you're I'm not getting what

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you guys are saying about being alone and stuff. This

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is a complete service match. Will Osbury doesn't He could

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go out there with two broken arms and two broken

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legs and kpabe and still winning this match. It's a

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fan service match. Will Osprey's gonna win period. There's no

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ifs or buts about it. Can I disagree? This is

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like the most there's no way to Kenny Omega's winning

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this match. Zero I disagree If Kenny. If Kenny Omega

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wins this match is if it's if the plan is

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for Kenny Omega to win this match. May God strike

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every one of you dead, right now. That's that's an

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old George Carlin joke. But you're still here. See nothing happened.

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Speaker 3: I'm not dead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not dead. Will Ospray's winning this match. Kenny

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Omega might as well just not show off. Seriously, this

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is going to be a banger for the sake of

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a banger, that's all it is. And it's a fan

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service match.

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Speaker 4: And I say that a year from now, people aren't

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going to rem er, oh, will Ostpray beat Kenny Omega.

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They're gonna remember Will Osprey and Kenny Omega ahead one

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of the greatest wrestling matches of all fing talent.

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Speaker 2: That may be the case, and I hope it is,

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but I'm just saying that a banker match for the

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sake of having a banger match means nothing when it's

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so predictable. Let's move on because we if go ahead,

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what if Ken.

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Speaker 1: Didn't beat JF and we were having m JF versus Osprey,

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I would.

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Speaker 3: Have picked Will one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say, yeah, go ahead. I mean he

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did say Kelson, but valid go ahead and answer for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, if if it was MJF versus Well, I would

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have picked Will one hundred percent for sure. But from

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my perspective what I saw, what I saw in the

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demeanor of Kenny being like he's ready, he's the cleaner,

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he's the best bout machine against And I even put

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out a tweet with picture of Kenny with the belt

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after the match, and I said that he's ready, the

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cleaner is going to take out the assassin. That's what

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I said.

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Speaker 2: So that's my prediction, okay. And to answer the question,

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it could be seventeen on one. Will Osprey is still

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winning that match. It doesn't matter who you've been out

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there and who It doesn't matter how many Kenny Omegas,

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John Moxley's, Kyle Fletcher's, whoever you put in this match.

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It could be ten, fifteen, twenty people from AAW or

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other companies whatever. Will Osprey is winning the World Championship

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at all. In it makes no sense. What's wherever for

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him not to It just doesn't. It's a fan service match,

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that's all this is. It's a glorified exhibition that the

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results are already in the books. And believe me, I

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hope I am wrong. I hope I am wrong and

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that Kenny beats will Osbury. But I don't think I

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am because it is what it is. But I do

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want to move on. I do want to move on

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because we now have a new aw Women's World Champion,

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and I want to know what you guys.

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Speaker 3: Think about this decision.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Dounji.

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Speaker 4: I want to start off with saying I love Willow.

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She is fantastic, She's fine, she's great in the ring

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like I'm working a door Willow, but I vehemently disagree

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with this decision. Techlas should have retained.

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Speaker 5: I just.

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Speaker 7: Forget the fact even you know, setting aside the fact

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that tech has been a fantastic champion and just absolutely

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freaking has that it factor.

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Speaker 4: We are either getting another transitional champion or we're saying

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these monet losing two years in a row in the

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women's title match at all win like neither one of

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those are good thing, right, Okay, Well.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Tunci.

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Speaker 1: I will say the same thing that I said about

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MJF a couple of weeks ago about Tecla. I think

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Tecla has plenty of story outside of the Women's World

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Championship that you know. I think that's why this happened.

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I see the artists of stardom championships being defended, and

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that's why she dropped the Women's World Championship. As far

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as Willow, I'll be honest, Willow kind of does not

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move the needle for me. I like a character with

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a little more edge.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm exactly what Techla said about Willow in the promo

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last week. You know, I don't like an all smiles,

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happy go. Look, she's kind of John. She's two thousand

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and six John Cena, you know. So I don't. I

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don't particularly like it. I think she retains it all

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in begrudgingly, just because I think that's where Mercedes Monet

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story gets deeper. I'm kind of fifty fifty to fifty

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on that prediction.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't. I didn't love this to a degree.

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Speaker 1: I think it makes sense, but you know, the women's

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generally kind of.

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Speaker 2: I posted one word on social media when I saw

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when this match ended. I put this graphic up with

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the one word, and it was terrible. This is terrible.

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Technic kept this women's division afloat. She did her best,

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she and she was good at it. Promos, tag matches,

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multi women matches title defenses, and she's not going to

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get the defender title at at all in. And I

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say her title because I honestly look at this as

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this is still techless title and Willow Nightingale was borrowing it.

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If Willow Nightingale is still the champion going into all in,

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I will absolutely not watch this match, just on the

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principle of it. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

473
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Now people were saying people were saying that if Techland won,

474
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,079
she would have gone into all in and it would

475
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:40,000
have been a heel versus heel match. Okay, well, going

476
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:43,559
into all in, it was going to be will Ospray

477
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:47,640
and Kenny o'meghan, a face versus base match because nobody

478
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,720
believed that he that will Osprey was a heel, right,

479
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,319
and you saw quickly that was remedied at the very

480
00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:00,480
end of Redemption with what Kenny Omega did it. It

481
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,119
doesn't take a full heel turn. It just takes a

482
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,079
little bit of a seed of doubt. And that's exactly

483
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:10,960
what they did. That was really well done. So this

484
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,480
is just a this is we've already seen this match.

485
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:19,519
Willow doesn't deserve to be in this match. I am sorry.

486
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:23,400
I say it like it is. This is awful, This

487
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,640
is terrible, and.

488
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: I completely agree one hundred percent with you calson Ondez.

489
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think something that maybe aw you know, constructive criticism.

490
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,599
They're holding on to the tiniest thread of story and

491
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,240
making it happen again for the sake of something. I

492
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,480
don't think, you know, a an injury in a New

493
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:55,759
Japan Strong Women's Championship match years ago warrants this. You know,

494
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,079
there's a couple more examples, but you know, just talking

495
00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:01,160
about this one, they're kind of beating this one to death.

496
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,039
Speaker 5: They had good, good chemistry.

497
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:07,039
Speaker 1: Uh like when Willow won back the TVs title, But

498
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,599
you know, this is another one that's just kind of

499
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,599
a match for a match heel versus heel and then

500
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,039
on the mens side, face versus face. I think would

501
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,680
have been a fun, fun kind of twist to everything.

502
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:22,039
Speaker 2: To people are saying and I'm like, you know that

503
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,559
Tekla is going to be going face.

504
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,559
Speaker 1: So I think Tekla is kind of turning that corner

505
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:32,079
people are. She gets the MJF pop where people initially

506
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,240
exactly and then they remember like, oh, we're not supposed.

507
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,799
Speaker 2: To exactly they appreciate her.

508
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:42,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say on the the whole face face,

509
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,240
he'll face. It is a lot easier to do face

510
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:49,759
face because then you're giving the fans two options. It's

511
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:53,880
here for when you go heal, heal, It's like, Okay,

512
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,759
we don't like either of these two. Who the heck

513
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,680
are we supposed to root for now? In this case,

514
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,519
Tecla is almost Tekla is essentially a tweener at this point,

515
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:11,599
Like she she does heal accents, but she's getting a

516
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:17,240
face reaction. It's you know, it's comparable to how how

517
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,759
Eddie Guerrero used to be uh and Nito he got

518
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:24,200
the same thing. MJF. You know, he's a he's a

519
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,400
districally scumbag deal, but he's still our scumbag. So that

520
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,119
is one deal. I will say where I don't think

521
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,279
he'll heal would have been an issue with Tecla versus

522
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,119
I think it also.

523
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: Goes back the unfortunate just series of events with Tony Storm, uh,

524
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:48,720
the the mixing around of the Women's Own Heart Tournament.

525
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,160
I think this is just a product of injuries and

526
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,039
unforeseen circumstances, and you know, you kind of roll with

527
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:59,799
the punches. Yeah, he could have done more with it.

528
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 5: I think.

529
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: The whole thing was as stupid to me. I mean,

530
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:07,319
I said it last week. Willow gave up the or

531
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,960
vacated the TVs Championship due to injury. They made a

532
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,440
tournament out of it, well, qualifiers out of it for

533
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,920
the uh you know, to to do whatever they did

534
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,000
to get the crowd to do TVs Champion. I can't

535
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:26,079
even remember how they did. Was it the Casino Gauntlet

536
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:32,119
that they did? Yeah, the Survival Survival the Fittis. Okay,

537
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,880
they had the qualifiers to get into the Survival of

538
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,599
the Fitness always half right. But the point is is

539
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:42,639
that the Survival of the Fittis match was on July first.

540
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,199
Willow got her title shot on July eighth, one week later.

541
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,840
What was the point of that? None?

542
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 4: Zero?

543
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: Pathetic, horrible booking fan service. This is terrible. I encourage

544
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,480
nobody to watch this match because it's a stupid match.

545
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,119
I'm sorry that the way I feel. Well, let's move

546
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,599
on to something more positive, at least for me, it

547
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:06,519
is maybe you guys will hate this, but we have

548
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,239
a new national champion and that's on Joddy l Idelo.

549
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,960
What did you guys think of how you know, how

550
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,000
do you like this? How do you like this match

551
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,360
with Mark Davis? And this is one of those where

552
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,800
we really don't know what's going We know that Osprey

553
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,320
and Omega is gonna happen, we know that Willow and

554
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,519
Mercedes is gonna happen, we don't really know for sure

555
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,920
what's going to happen with androdi l Iglo. What did

556
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,280
you think of this match of redemption? And also what

557
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,079
do you think it's next for Andrede.

558
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: I've really enjoyed the match. I loved Andrade starting off

559
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,800
with the h that crazy spinning elbow he does and

560
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,960
like just going for the pin right away, Like I

561
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,960
wish more matches would you know, start hot like that

562
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:56,360
with someone being smart and like going for a big

563
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:02,639
move right away. Mark Davis was a really good National champion.

564
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:07,880
Against the great matches, this was another one I thought

565
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,199
it really showed both guys strengths and it was a

566
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,000
match where I wasn't sure how those two were gonna

567
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:19,320
match up, and I was very pleasantly surprised. As for

568
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,320
what's next for on Droday, I honestly don't know. That's

569
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,360
a that's one of thought I was like, there's multiple

570
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,880
paths I could see him taking, and I don't know

571
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,360
which is the most interesting.

572
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll see something tomorrow night with Andrade and see

573
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,559
what that path will hold. Who else wants to talk

574
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:39,400
about this match?

575
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:43,679
Speaker 1: I thought the match was good, you know, nothing nothing

576
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,800
right home about. I don't really like that he won

577
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,079
the national title, mainly because I at this point, I

578
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:53,159
don't know what the identity of the national title is.

579
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,000
I thought it was a kind of younger guy, lower

580
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,920
mid card title. If they're trying to beef it up

581
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:03,880
with Andrade, you know that's cool, but you know you

582
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,639
got Jack Perry and and Mark Davis as the previous holders.

583
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 5: You know what what is that really?

584
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: And and well, I would put Ricochet and androde on

585
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,039
the same on the same playing field. But as far

586
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,480
as what's next for him, he's he keeps wearing that

587
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,119
diamond ring. I think it's inevitable that MJF is going

588
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,280
to be a little upset about that. I see I

589
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,360
see a feud with m JF coming, But it kind

590
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,679
of goes back to the previous thing. What is it

591
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,639
going to be for the for the World Championship? Is

592
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:41,519
it just like, give me my ring back or not

593
00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:43,039
the world champions but the national title.

594
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 5: But you know, now you got.

595
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Two top guys with a lower mid card title. You

596
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,639
know that's a little screwy to me too, but you know,

597
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,719
let's let's let it play out.

598
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: Well, I'm happy for Rade. The match was was great

599
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,880
to watch. Did did you guys realize that he has

600
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:07,880
a new theme song?

601
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,199
Speaker 2: By the way, yes, people were talking about and not.

602
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: Liking and not well thank you.

603
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,119
Speaker 3: I thought I was the only one. Thank you, Kelson.

604
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:19,000
I'm not liking it one day either.

605
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: I definitely preferred the Yeah.

606
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. It was fun to watch and

607
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:32,840
again he decided to unzip and the crowd when nuts.

608
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,800
And you know, was that you Chris who said that

609
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,679
he started with like his big finish or something.

610
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: Not a big finish, but uh that like running boot

611
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:45,519
into the.

612
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: Spinning because that reminded me the match between John Moxley

613
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,400
and Will ospread Dynasty, because Will started with the with

614
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,599
his hidden blade right off the bat. It was like bam,

615
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,239
So that that's what That's what has been my me

616
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,639
of So yeah, it was. It was great. It was great.

617
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:04,519
Speaker 4: I love what.

618
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,559
Speaker 2: What what do you think is next?

619
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. No, I don't know, really don't.

620
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:17,519
Speaker 2: Uh, well here I do have an idea. Uh, Androtti

621
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,079
just left the don Kallis family, so he's got some

622
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,280
enemies there. Grand Slam Mexico is right around the corner,

623
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,840
like a week and a half away or something like that,

624
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,119
isn't it. Well it's like next week and isn't it.

625
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:37,559
But yeah, anyway, Uh, he'll be a Grand Slam Mexico

626
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,360
defind defending the national title, which is what you're supposed

627
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,079
to do. You're this is a championship that you're supposed

628
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:47,719
to defend in other promotions, they're going to be in

629
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,960
CMLL and uh, you got at Cerro right there. I

630
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:56,320
believe you're going to see Androti and Atso at Grand

631
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,039
Slam Mexico.

632
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: Yes, please please, yes.

633
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,679
Speaker 2: I yoso.

634
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,079
Speaker 1: It seems like when you Dallas, whereas you get jumped

635
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:13,039
into gangs, you get jumped out, just like will Ospray

636
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:13,800
two years ago.

637
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: And right, I mean, of course, you know, I'm usually

638
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,719
go to Sarah as an example. Could also be el Klhone,

639
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,800
who was also part of the don Kallis family, and

640
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Volador Junior, who is also part of the don Kallis

641
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,199
family on the Mexico division, so it would.

642
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,639
Speaker 4: Be good with any of those. But I do love.

643
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. But anyway, let's move on because we had

644
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:42,079
yet another title change that was Maya World winning the

645
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,400
AEWTBS Championship. I've got to go ahead and give my

646
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,960
opinion on this first. First things first, I was very

647
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:53,559
very happy to see Maya World get this title because

648
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,920
for two reasons. One is I like Maya World a lot,

649
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,599
and two I do believe the TBS Championship with Mercedes

650
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:10,079
and then Willow, it's been elevated tired, and it should

651
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:13,719
be This should be more for a mid card area,

652
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,320
in my opinion. So now that my World has got it,

653
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,880
she I'm hoping that she will now work to elevate

654
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,599
the mid cards. The bad part about this this match

655
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:33,800
was terrible. Karlshida and and My World had no chemistry together.

656
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:39,679
It was like watching like they were like fighting in mud.

657
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:44,239
I'm sorry it was and I didn't like the match

658
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,119
at all, but I am glad that my World.

659
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,119
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say terrible, but yeah, their lack of chemistry

660
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:54,880
was definitely apparent. It was a little plunky at times.

661
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,639
I predicted to win, and I have never been more

662
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:03,840
happy to be wrong. I also really like my old

663
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,960
Worlds is great. Also, she's from Dallas, so you know,

664
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:13,000
got a teer for I'm I'm excited to see what

665
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:14,119
she does with his typer.

666
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: I tell him the same way you feel about Willow

667
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:20,840
winning the World Championship, and.

668
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: This is how I felt about this result.

669
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: I while I do agree the TVs Championship should be

670
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,079
a mid card title, and I think someone of my

671
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,400
world's age and experience, you know, this is kind of

672
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,320
what that's for. So in that regard, that's cool. However,

673
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,039
I feel like she's too new and I know that's

674
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:47,159
what people are saying, but I don't think and I'm

675
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:50,599
sorry the whole the tragedy with her brother, that's awful,

676
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:53,920
and you know, nothing against that. I just don't know

677
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,000
that that has the legs that everybody thinks it does.

678
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 5: You know, how how long that's fair? How long did

679
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:01,760
it take.

680
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:04,639
Speaker 1: For us to get tired of Darby talking about Mount Everest?

681
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,920
You know, And it's kind of the same thing. Obviously,

682
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,519
this is a tragedy, and you know, I'm not taking

683
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,920
it lightly, but it's you know, where does that go

684
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:18,599
after that? You know, it's are we trying to do

685
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,079
and you know, taking it back to two thousand and five,

686
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,800
two thousand and six again, I'm sorry, but this isn't

687
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,199
Ray Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero. You know this is this

688
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:29,599
is a.

689
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 5: It's a bit different.

690
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: I think she put on a great match with Mercedes.

691
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880
I was there at Forbidden Door and that was a

692
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:43,519
heavy match. It was awesome, But you know, you're putting

693
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:47,360
on a banger match with Mercedes Monette legit one of

694
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,599
the best in the world, men's or women's.

695
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 5: So I don't know, shout out my world for winning.

696
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: I think it is awesome as a character and you know,

697
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:01,719
as a as a fan of the show, I guess uh,

698
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,440
I don't know how far that really takes it. And

699
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,960
she'da was the most interesting she's ever been. Why, you know,

700
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,400
why are we taking that away from her? Or maybe

701
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,239
maybe it makes her more interesting? I don't know, but

702
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,719
I wasn't particularly happy with this one.

703
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: Now I'm very very quiet because I have a lot

704
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,440
to say and I will try to do it in

705
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,920
a very very short time manner. I was very very

706
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,159
upset about the about the match. I said a little

707
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,599
bit at the beginning of the show that I didn't

708
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,280
like it, and I felt watching it on replay as well.

709
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:49,039
So I'm happy for Maya because it was her birthday

710
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,239
on Sunday, So happy birthday, Maya. But I was not

711
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,280
happy with with the with the way that the title

712
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,880
changed Corse sheet. She still has the record for the

713
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,719
shortest reign of the ae W Women's World title, and

714
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,320
now she has the shortest reign for the TVs title.

715
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:12,880
So I don't know.

716
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:19,199
Speaker 2: I'm maybe she'd'll be maybe she'd will beat Willow Nightingale

717
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,079
and and that streak this week on collision or something.

718
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: That I would be very happy, but that would be

719
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:30,039
like another tradition transitional champion, and I don't like it.

720
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,559
Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's move on.

721
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: I think we do have one more thing. I think

722
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:43,199
it will set up a more almost developmental women scene,

723
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,719
you know. I feel like there's a gap between some

724
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,639
of the women and just like the lower card, arguably

725
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,079
do they even have a mid card and then the

726
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:53,719
the well.

727
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: Well that's that's a good that's a good point too,

728
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:59,800
G because if you looked at the reports, uh, they

729
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,920
are reporting that there are several areas of reporting that

730
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,159
AW is about to sign like seven people, probably more,

731
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,400
and I do believe that they're not going to be

732
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,760
signing a lot of big, big, big names. They are

733
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,679
gonna be signing some, but they're gonna be signing people

734
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,079
that are going to be developmental and part of that

735
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:22,039
will be in the women's division that could face my

736
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,039
World and whoever else is holding the T and T Championship.

737
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,519
But let's go on to the AW International Championship. Thank

738
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:34,920
goodness for Kyle Fletcher and Bandido. I want to say

739
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,440
that right off the bat, because that match was the

740
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,559
match of the night. Nothing else even came up to

741
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:50,119
its kneecaps that it was far and away the best

742
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:53,960
match of the night. And Speedball Mike Baily is going

743
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,400
to face Kyle Fletcher Grand Slam Mexico. Now didn't Speedball?

744
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:01,280
What did they face last? Was it? That wasn't the

745
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,679
only was it the C two? I think it was two.

746
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: Speedball one in the C two and then Talented Tyle

747
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:18,400
for the T and Team title after the C two

748
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,639
and lost that one thanks to Sanigans.

749
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the thing that I'm at the point is

750
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,800
is that those matches were brilliant and they made sense,

751
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:34,119
and they made sense they were fun matches. This is

752
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:39,079
gonna be a fun match in Arena Mexico with these two.

753
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:43,440
That crowd is going to go absolutely berserk. But the

754
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:46,440
question is I don't believe the speedball is gonna win

755
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,360
this match. The question is is what's in the future

756
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,000
for Kyle Fletcher and what did you think that Kyle

757
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,960
Fletcher and Bandido.

758
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 4: I agree Kyle Fletcher Bandido with match of the night.

759
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:00,440
I won't say nothing else came to those to it,

760
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:02,840
but it was the match of the Knight for sure.

761
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,400
I think in the future for Kyle Fletcher, that's where

762
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,599
we're getting our triple threat at all in with Kyle

763
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:18,239
Fletcher and Kazutskokada. As for Speedball, I hope he's facing

764
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,239
Kevin Knight for the t n T title.

765
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: I agree with with everything Chris Chris just said. There's

766
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,639
there's I guess kind of the same thing with uh

767
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,239
with the with the men's World Championship. You know there's

768
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,199
zero chance in my opinion, speedball wins and this.

769
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:35,519
Speaker 5: Is this is just a match.

770
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: This was a match to please the Montreal crowd and

771
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,320
a match that we just know delivers every time. So

772
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,199
not mad at it, but you know it's just kind

773
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:46,679
of a match.

774
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. When you need a champion to lose, Bendido is

775
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,800
the guy you go to. Just don't put up his

776
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,000
ring of honor World Championship.

777
00:48:55,039 --> 00:49:00,519
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I need a favor. Can someone say Kyle

778
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:02,800
Fletcher's full name plate.

779
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:11,119
Speaker 4: A international Champion, the proto Star, Kyle Herbert Walker in

780
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,480
a bonport Tomato Fletcher.

781
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. Okay, this is my love letter

782
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,679
to Kyle Fletcher. He's my favorite wrestler after Kenny. So

783
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,039
thank you Kyle for the greatest match that I've ever

784
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:35,559
seen you done in AW so far. You had some

785
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,800
of other matches that were great, but with Ben Dido,

786
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,719
oh my gosh, it was beautiful and I love watching

787
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,280
you and I will cheer you on from this day forward.

788
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,599
I started being a fan after watching you against Hangman

789
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:54,239
for the world title that all out last year and

790
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,320
you delivered. So thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

791
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,440
This is my love letter to Kyle. So I was

792
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,800
happy to see Speedball win and the crowd win nuts

793
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,559
nuts not and even in the in the the little

794
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:14,719
segment the promo that he did with Lexi, he started

795
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,079
uh speaking French and swearing in French and everybody understood

796
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:21,960
what he was saying, so that that was great. So

797
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:27,480
I'm excited for the match as much as I would

798
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:32,239
want to cheer for speedball and winning in Mexico. Sorry,

799
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,159
Mike File's gonna do it.

800
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:39,599
Speaker 2: And then the you know, you know, the only way

801
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:43,719
that speedball wins in Mexico is if Speedball versus Fletcher

802
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,079
is going to be the match at all, in which

803
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,239
I wouldn't be totally against, but they risk doing that

804
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:49,840
too often.

805
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Or if Kyle Fletcher there's too much of the

806
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:53,280
water down there.

807
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,639
Speaker 2: There you go. You know, nothing, nothing causes an upset,

808
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:03,920
mored and dysentery. All right, Well let's move on because

809
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,440
we are running a little bit short on time. Kevin

810
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:14,760
Knight T and T Champion russelled Kenny Omega at Redemption.

811
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,559
I did not see a second of this match. I

812
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,519
had to do something, and I did watch the next day,

813
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:23,360
but I just pass forwarded through the match because I

814
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,679
knew it was meaningless. There was no way Kevin Knight

815
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,880
was gonna win, so I just wanted to see what

816
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,400
happened after the match. So I can't speak on this match,

817
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,039
but I will say this, I am a big Kevin

818
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,880
Knight fan, and I think he is improving on all

819
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:41,880
areas other than wrestling from week to week. I think

820
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,519
that he is a big talent. But one of the

821
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,480
things that made no sense to me is having Darby

822
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:50,480
Allen come out before the match during a do a

823
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:54,519
backstage promo saying He's coming for the T and T Championship. Okay,

824
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:56,360
well you just kind of told us he isn't winning

825
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,159
the world championship, because if he was, you were gonna

826
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:00,719
go after the big gun. Why would you go up

827
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,440
to the DNT Championship if the world champion was right

828
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,599
out there? Thank you, Tony Kahan, you know.

829
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 4: Because Kevin Knight hadn't won the world title yet. Yeah,

830
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,360
so I mean, you got you gotta kind of consider

831
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,320
that from pay fa. If he says I'm going for

832
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,920
the world titles, then that really telegraphs the ending.

833
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I didn't watch this match at

834
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,519
all because I mean, obviously I knew who's gonna win,

835
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:29,360
so I just wanted to see what was apter to match.

836
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:31,440
But for those of you who did watch the match,

837
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,800
what did you think of it? And what do you

838
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,400
think is next for Kevin Knight? Do you think it

839
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,719
is Darby Allen.

840
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,599
Speaker 4: I thought it was a great match. I think I

841
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:45,960
could see Grand Slam Mexico them doing kind of a

842
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,079
you know, some kind of stipulation for like a blowoff match.

843
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:53,960
You know, I could see that happening. But I feel

844
00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:57,559
I think Kevin Knight will beat Darby Allen and go

845
00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,000
on to lose the title to Speedball at all.

846
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? Anybody else, Yeah.

847
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:07,599
Speaker 1: That the match was good. Also, nothing to like, I'm not.

848
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,239
I don't feel the need to suggest that match to anybody,

849
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,960
But yeah, Kevin Knight's doing awesome. I think he's exactly

850
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:19,039
what a T and T champion should look like. And

851
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,440
I have a lot of fun watching Kevin Knight. Not

852
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:26,280
much to report, but you know, definitely nothing.

853
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:26,679
Speaker 5: Bad to report.

854
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,199
Speaker 3: He's got a new theme song.

855
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I was wondering if they were a special

856
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,119
pay per view song, special main event song.

857
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

858
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,159
Speaker 3: But if it's if it's his new theme song, I

859
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:41,440
don't like it. I don't feel it, I know.

860
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: Well, what do you think is next for Kevin Knight? Now?

861
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,599
Do you think it is Darby?

862
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking and I guess that's the obvious answer. Well,

863
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,440
they can do.

864
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: Don't forget the don't forget the TNT Championship is an

865
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,440
open challenge championship, so it could be anybody.

866
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be, but Darby is the obvious. I

867
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:14,400
think he would be humbled by the beating that Kenny

868
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,639
gave him because at the beginning of the match, it

869
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:23,280
was really him, you know, taking control. But then in

870
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,519
the middle of the match, Kenny just like he said

871
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:30,199
it out loud and I and I could hear what

872
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,559
he had to say, and he said, you can never

873
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:36,840
be me. You can never be me, and that's absolutely true.

874
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:41,039
So I think it would be humbled by by the

875
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,280
by the match per se and the experience that being

876
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,920
in a world title position match would would be for him.

877
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:56,599
So kudos kudos for for the match. It wasn't my

878
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:04,039
favorite of the night for sure, but I will wait

879
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,840
and see what's next for Kevin Knight. That's all I'm

880
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,360
going to say.

881
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: Well, well, let's move on at all in we do

882
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:17,400
know that it's going to at least be Cajun Copeland

883
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,840
against the Young Bucks. A lot of people are saying

884
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,320
that maybe New Day makes this a three way. Uh.

885
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,679
I wouldn't be against that, but uh, hey, the Cajun

886
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Copeland Retirement Tour is on its way. What do you

887
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,079
think of this match? At all in? And by the way,

888
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:43,320
Cajun Copeland against Tune did they wrestle against Okay?

889
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,119
Speaker 3: People?

890
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: That was the second match of the night, was it not?

891
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 5: No?

892
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: It was okay. I personally did not like that match.

893
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:54,960
I mean it was it was there, It was fine,

894
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,679
it was nothing wrong with it, but it was a

895
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,800
dynamite match. It wasn't a pay per view.

896
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:04,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the World Tag Team Championships are being

897
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:09,119
held hostage by Cajun Cope for a hope at a

898
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:11,679
at a nostalgia.

899
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 5: Pop at all in.

900
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,519
Speaker 1: I kind of think the same thing for the Young Bucks.

901
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,679
I don't particularly like them with the titles. You know,

902
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,239
you get a Bucks match and you're having a great time.

903
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,159
But I think there's just so much more, so many

904
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:32,840
more teams to give a spotlight too. I think the

905
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,840
Young Bucks are always kind of the bailout team for

906
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:38,880
switching hands. I do hope a third team comes in

907
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,239
and and wins and not either of these two teams.

908
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,599
Speaker 5: I'm tired of Cajun.

909
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,079
Speaker 4: Well.

910
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, also, look a look at Dynamite Collision. This week

911
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:56,119
at Detroit, Michigan. Chris, who do you think may show up?

912
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm hoping the Murtor City machine Guns and I would

913
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,079
absolutely puts it in this match. I want a third,

914
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,280
a fourth, a fifth, and a six team added to

915
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,119
this match with tables, ladders and fricking chairs.

916
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:13,119
Speaker 2: Oh my, hockey pucks and thumbtacks in it.

917
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,719
Speaker 3: No, yes, no, please not cricket back.

918
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,199
Speaker 4: They're they're in England cricket back.

919
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:24,199
Speaker 2: Cricket bats. I don't think Americans that were watching usn't

920
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:27,960
even know what that what they are anyway, Belle, what

921
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,800
do you think for now?

922
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,639
Speaker 4: I'm excited.

923
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: That's the dream match that everybody wanted to see, and

924
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,760
the Young Bucks even said it on their being the

925
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,960
Elite video today. So I'm crossing my fingers for.

926
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:48,079
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to have to I'm gonna have to

927
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:49,800
disagree with you that this is a dream match and

928
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,719
everybody wanted to se I don't care, so everybody.

929
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: They wanted to do it.

930
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,679
Speaker 3: They wanted the Young Bucks so they said it.

931
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well this this is a dream match for

932
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:02,599
them for sure.

933
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

934
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: But for me, that is probably something that Caje and

935
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,719
Copeland are looking forward to yeah.

936
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:15,719
Speaker 3: Well, Edge sorry, Adam is looking forward to it, but

937
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,280
Christian is not character.

938
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:23,079
Speaker 2: Christian pretty much unreadable. But I want to move on.

939
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,800
I don't want to spend a lot lot of more

940
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,880
time on this. Uh, the most uncomfortable segment in at Redemption.

941
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,199
I don't know what the hell they were thinking, but

942
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:37,639
I'm gonna tell you this right now. I'm gonna tell

943
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:41,679
you this right now, that it's gonna be the Brawling

944
00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:46,159
Birds versus Divine Dominion at all in and yet another

945
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:50,800
fan service match that I have no interest in at

946
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all at watching. What have the Brawling Birds done other

947
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,360
than being from England? What are the Brawling Birds done

948
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to deserve to be in a World tag team title

949
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match and probably win over a team that has been dominant?

950
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,760
It just makes no sense to me. This is dumb,

951
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,320
and I'm sorry, but Tony conn is starting to become

952
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,960
the king of dumb booking. To me, this is dumb.

953
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Speaker 1: I think that the most established tag women's tag team,

954
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and I know that sounds crazy.

955
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Speaker 2: It speaks.

956
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Speaker 5: It speaks more to a lack of.

957
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Speaker 2: Who's the most who's the most established tag team? How

958
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:33,119
do you figure that they've had eight matches and six

959
00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:36,480
of the nine matches, well six of those are against nobody's.

960
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 5: My point is not even rosters.

961
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Speaker 1: My point is about the lack of women's tag teams.

962
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And you could say the same about Divine Dominion because

963
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,960
they just squash match and pre show match every every

964
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week and every pay per view. It's more of a

965
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testament to the lack of women's tag teams.

966
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Speaker 5: But you know, I think.

967
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: They're that's four quality wrestlers that will put on a

968
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,960
good match and have a month to build a story.

969
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:10,519
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, you know, and I have

970
01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:13,679
to disagree with you. They are four quality wrestlers, but

971
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:16,800
there's only one quality team, and that's Leana Cross and

972
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,920
and Uh and Beg and Bain. I have never seen

973
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,280
any team ever with less chemistry together than Jmi Hayter

974
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,320
and Alex Windsor. They're awful together in the ring. They're terrible.

975
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,239
They have no idea what they're doing.

976
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, they don't fully disagree, fully disagree, and they again,

977
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:46,000
I think the Divine Dominions booking is not much different

978
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:48,599
than that of the Brawling Birds match.

979
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,159
Speaker 2: But they're out there. They're out there on a weekly basis.

980
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:55,679
Brawling Birds disappeared for what at least a month or two.

981
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,000
You know, they've they've done vignettes, but they they haven't wrestled,

982
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,079
they haven't done anything. You they they after they just

983
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:08,960
do not have chemistry together in the ring yet are great.

984
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:11,400
Their ring chemistry is awful.

985
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:14,719
Speaker 4: I think they're just still figuring out that timing.

986
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: Okay, well, a good time to do it, is it

987
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:19,800
in front of you know, what could be fifty thousand

988
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,639
people and all in you know, that's a great place

989
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:27,000
to figure out your timing. They don't. They shouldn't be

990
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:32,320
in this match. I'm sorry. They shouldn't. They should yet, Well,

991
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,519
it's clear and obvious. I mean they just did it

992
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:40,559
close up with Renee piquette today where it's obvious. It's

993
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:46,480
just the same. Yeah, well what would you do?

994
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,559
Speaker 5: What would you do instead of that?

995
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,039
Speaker 2: Honestly, if you can't come up with another tag team,

996
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:55,000
then just don't have a tag team match because this

997
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:56,360
is preposterous. Yeah.

998
01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to just lack of overall

999
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:03,599
women's tag team booking, or not lack, I guess, but

1000
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,960
lack of depth. But you're very uncomfortable. I was cracking

1001
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:10,880
up and I didn't know if it was, I don't know.

1002
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: It was very uncomfortable. Well do you have any opinions

1003
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:17,840
on this.

1004
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: Before we move on?

1005
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: All right? Well, what who it is? The very last

1006
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,159
person we're going to talk about is John Moxley. He

1007
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:29,599
still has a belt, doesn't he? Yeah, you know, the

1008
01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:33,320
one that he hasn't defended since the Forbidden Door. Uh,

1009
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,800
and has very rarely honestly defended it. He's been too

1010
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,519
busy with will Osbury and six man tag teams and

1011
01:02:40,519 --> 01:02:43,760
stuff like that. Uh. John Moxley needs to be used

1012
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,440
more and be used as a champion more. I have

1013
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:49,880
really no idea what's next with John Moxley.

1014
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 4: Me. I feel like I feel like this recent kind

1015
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:59,079
of threats has been way is like, Okay, this guy's

1016
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,960
gonna show up freaking week and he wants to work,

1017
01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:06,159
So he puts them in you know, six man and

1018
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,440
tags and has them doing segments and stuff to kind

1019
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:16,119
of keep them from just completely breaking down. Because that

1020
01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:19,360
dude has not taken a break in like ninety seven years.

1021
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,159
Speaker 5: I still think that far.

1022
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: I still think he's headed or we're headed for death

1023
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,679
right versus the Bang Bank gang at all in with

1024
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,440
their loss at redemption.

1025
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:33,079
Speaker 5: I don't know. It kind of puts a.

1026
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: Puts a fork in that for the Bang Bang Gang,

1027
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:41,360
but uh, the Death Riders did jump them after the match,

1028
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:46,480
and so I think that may be heating up. But yeah,

1029
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:49,559
I agree that that's another title. This maybe held hostage.

1030
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:51,519
And John Moxley is one of my favorite you know,

1031
01:03:51,519 --> 01:03:54,559
I'm glad to see him with gold, but you know,

1032
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,400
get too cheap?

1033
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 2: Do you see the Bang Bang Gang and it's the

1034
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:05,440
Death Riders being what a tag match, trios match or.

1035
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:10,079
Speaker 5: My if I had it my way, it would be.

1036
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,159
Speaker 1: The Bank Bank Gang versus Death Writers minus Jay White

1037
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:17,719
and John Moxley. They would have a singles match for

1038
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,840
the Continental title and then some sort of uh stipulation

1039
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:23,800
or hardcore match.

1040
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,079
Speaker 2: But so like to be like four on four so

1041
01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:29,679
to be a man.

1042
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, a little never want you never want to see

1043
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,840
a double chain match ever again.

1044
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,159
Speaker 1: In a thank you very much stinker of the night.

1045
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 5: Oh that was yeah.

1046
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 4: You know what when is a stadium? Yeah, maybe we

1047
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,800
could see uh Stampede.

1048
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: And if it's because I don't think Finley and uh

1049
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,719
Clark Connors and Gabe Kid are out of the picture either,

1050
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:00,079
it could be a big yeah. In just a way

1051
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:03,199
to get a lot of people on the show. It

1052
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:08,280
could be a big multiman match and hopefully, like I said,

1053
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,360
Jay White versus John Moxley, well.

1054
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: Don't forget something here. We just had redemption, and Valie,

1055
01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:18,960
I do want to get your opinion on John Moxley.

1056
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,199
But I did want to bring this up before I forgot.

1057
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,360
We just had redemption. We had no Darby Allen except

1058
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,119
for in vignette. We had no Hangman at a page,

1059
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:33,280
no Swerve strictly. There were others too, El Mercedes, monetf

1060
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:35,800
They weren't in matches.

1061
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: I know.

1062
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,199
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is she wasn't in a match. You know,

1063
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,079
I mean you were there too. You didn't do you

1064
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,280
didn't do crap in the show, you know what I mean?

1065
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,159
You see, That's what I'm saying. She cared. That's it.

1066
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,599
She cared, but you didn't care it not because because

1067
01:05:55,639 --> 01:06:00,880
that double chain match was awful. But don't forget these

1068
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,559
people are gonna probably be it all In. Then you

1069
01:06:03,639 --> 01:06:07,960
also have you know, new day MotorCity machine Guns. Kyrie's saying,

1070
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,519
who may show these all those groups may show up

1071
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:19,480
in more so all In is not anywhere near set yet.

1072
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,360
Put it out.

1073
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:23,559
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to think for all in you know,

1074
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,119
there's normally a men's and women's Christina Gauntlet.

1075
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,559
Speaker 2: So I hope not this year. I really do. I

1076
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:34,440
really hope that. I hope not. I think it's been

1077
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,880
a little overdone with all the term with the owen

1078
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,480
Hart and with the qualifiers for the uh Survival of

1079
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:46,199
the Fittest, and you know, I just think that there's

1080
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:48,840
just too much of that kind of stuff. You know,

1081
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,280
let's let's just have straight up matches.

1082
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a tradition. Tony Kohn wants to

1083
01:06:56,679 --> 01:06:58,039
establisht for all with.

1084
01:06:58,239 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: No I get it. I get that. I'm just saying

1085
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:03,079
I wouldn't be upset if it didn't happen. But Bell,

1086
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:04,960
did you have an opinion on the Moxley thing?

1087
01:07:06,519 --> 01:07:11,159
Speaker 3: Well, it was fun seeing again after Dynasty. So hmm,

1088
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:16,599
what John Moxley will do at all? Maybe j White?

1089
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,639
Speaker 2: Not necessarily at all, not necessarily all in it could

1090
01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:24,599
be tomorrow night. You know, what's the story which Will with.

1091
01:07:24,519 --> 01:07:30,239
Speaker 3: Will like, there's some explanation that needs to be that

1092
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:34,440
needs to be done by Will and Kenny about what

1093
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:39,400
their action were on Sunday and for Marx as well,

1094
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:43,760
so it's going to be very interesting the next couple

1095
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,719
of weeks in terms of storyline.

1096
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,199
Speaker 2: When Will wins the AW World Championship at all In,

1097
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,159
I'm really looking forward to seeing the prediction polls when

1098
01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:58,360
we put them up, probably about a week before the show,

1099
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,360
because I think they're going to be lopsided as hell

1100
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,519
for that match. But anyway, I mean, when Will beats

1101
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:11,239
Kenny o'meghan wins the World Championship and all in, I

1102
01:08:11,239 --> 01:08:13,119
mean John Moxley's right there to challenge.

1103
01:08:13,199 --> 01:08:16,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I think so. I think so.

1104
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: By the way, you know, speaking of all in, AW

1105
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,359
Fano Bingo is coming back with five winners. Five people

1106
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will win the AW Bingo and win a free T

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01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,960
shirt of their choice courtesy of me, which I will

1108
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,720
purchase for people at shop AW dot com. This will

1109
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,800
be like the I don't know the fiftieth shirt that

1110
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:48,199
I've give it away since an AW fan. It's ridiculous

1111
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:50,800
when you think about much money I spent on sure,

1112
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,119
it's but I love doing it. You know, Chris, you

1113
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:56,640
got one. I did.

1114
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 4: I love my shirt a bunch of times.

1115
01:09:00,199 --> 01:09:06,119
Speaker 2: Viva Viva La Yeah, and of course tomorrow night on

1116
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:12,000
AW Dynamite. Join us on the aw fan Hub subreddit

1117
01:09:12,079 --> 01:09:18,000
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live chats. The link to both will be in the

1119
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:24,800
description of this video. Guys, thank you for coming out.

1120
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,680
I wish Redemption was better, so this would have been

1121
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:34,439
more positive episode. But you know, things like this happen.

1122
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,840
You'll have this in small towns like Europe.

1123
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was fun, it was fun going. But

1124
01:09:40,079 --> 01:09:42,680
just I just want to say I have a beef

1125
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,720
to pick with Tomaso Champa. Please, for for the love

1126
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,439
of God, do not ever, ever, ever put your hands

1127
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:51,680
on you Pete again.

1128
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:55,159
Speaker 2: I want to I was upset that the stuffing didn't

1129
01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:55,920
come out of you pe.

1130
01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: So in Boston Bruins shirt no less so.

1131
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,039
Speaker 2: Boston Boston Bruins for life.

1132
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 3: Baby.

1133
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: Now I'm a Winnipeg Jets fan. What can I say?

1134
01:10:10,279 --> 01:10:16,560
Just be facetious, but yeah, so, but anyway, thank you

1135
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,840
for listening. Guys. We'll be back next week at eight

1136
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,479
forty five Eastern on Tuesday for another episode of aw

1137
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fans Ignition forty aw fan op podcast Team. This is Kelson.

1138
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,600
Good night Eddie Kingdom

1139
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,159
Speaker 5: Good night Kenny