1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,839 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to another Patreon edition of 2 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:10,560 the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast. Today, we are 3 00:00:10,599 --> 00:00:13,800 going to be discussing a subject that I don't know 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,839 yet because d is going to surprise me. 5 00:00:15,919 --> 00:00:16,839 Speaker 2: But I do know this. 6 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: You have been waiting to tell me this incredible story. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,440 I don't know what it is yet, but it's like 8 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:27,239 murder and Mayhem and all the things. And you've promised 9 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:29,199 me that it's a song that I know very well, 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,359 or it involves something that I'm super familiar with. 11 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: There is absolutely no question that you know this song. Okay, 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,200 we've actually just talked about this song before and another 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,960 one of our episodes, but since we have well over 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,479 two hundred episodes at this point, that's not much of 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,200 a clue for you. But we've also talked about other 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,640 people who are involved with this song on entirely different episodes, 17 00:00:48,679 --> 00:00:51,000 which I'm not going to give away yet, but just 18 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:54,159 to let everybody know what's going on, we are doing 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,359 a everybody gets to hear this episode version of what's 20 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:01,799 normally on our Patreon page only, right, So if you 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,879 join our Patreon page, you'll get access to all of 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,719 our one hit Wonder episodes that nobody else except our 23 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:11,159 Patreon members get access to. You can do that by 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,280 going to patreon dot com slash Surely Podcast. You can 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,280 sign up for free. You can get the episodes for 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,879 as little as five bucks a month if you go 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,400 up in tears. Thank you it help support us, and 28 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:23,519 we'll send you some free gifts to which are pretty fun. 29 00:01:23,599 --> 00:01:25,159 Speaker 1: I send some of that stuff out this week. 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you guys so much for supporting us. 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,319 Those Patreon members that we have, they're going to get 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,680 the sneak preview of this episode before everybody else. But 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,599 I'm just yes, I'm genuinely excited to talk about this, so. 34 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: I was just gonna interrupt you. One of the fun 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,040 things that we do in our Patreon episodes sometimes is 36 00:01:43,079 --> 00:01:46,000 that one person comes up with all the research and 37 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:48,560 the history and things like that, and then you talk 38 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:54,120 and you slowly unveil the story. And if I figure 39 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:55,719 it out right off the bat, I'm not gonna say anything, 40 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,000 but guys at home try to figure out what we're 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:01:59,519 talking about. 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: It's a puzzle exactly, Okay. And the last one of 43 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,560 these episodes we had, you gave me a song from 44 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,520 the nineties and By the time we got to the song, 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,520 I was like, I kind of remember that song. Most 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,800 of the songs that we have have been songs that 47 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:17,319 everybody knows right right, And I made the promise to 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,080 you at that time. The next time that we come 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,719 in and I'm doing a song for you, you will without 50 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,120 question know what the song is. It is a one 51 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:29,439 hit wonder, but it may surprise you to have it 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,599 called a one hit wonder. Okay, okay, probably nobody thinks 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,439 of it as that, but technically it is all right. 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,719 So I'm gonna as you mentioned, this story has theft, 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:50,680 drug addiction, homicide, adultery, fatal car crash, and a Persian 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,800 poem that's over nine hundred years old involved with it. 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,680 So there's all kinds of things at play. So if 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,400 there are people out there who are super familiar with 59 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:02,080 this song, they're gonna go, oh, I know what that 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,199 is already. I doubt a whole lot of people. I 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,400 really know the song, and I was surprised to know 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,719 what some of the basis for the song is. 63 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:13,599 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, let's hear this all right, I'm ready. 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: So the group that put together this album was a 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,039 supergroup Okay. It came together in the spring of nineteen 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,879 seventy and a year later they'd be done. They released 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,919 one album, and even the album did badly, and even 68 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,240 this song when it was released as a single, it 69 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,319 did badly. Several of our other Patreon episodes where we're like, hey, 70 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,960 this song came out and you know, eighty three, but 71 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:41,879 it didn't become a hit until nineteen eighty nine, weirdly, 72 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,840 you know. So this is kind of one of those things. 73 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:46,800 So the members of this group, I'm going to give 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,840 you some names. I'm doing the Paul Harvey kind of 75 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,879 you know, the hide the Rabbit thing right now. So 76 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:56,919 first guy is Dell you know. Okay, yeah, you're thinking 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,439 of John Candy right now. I know you are. 78 00:04:00,479 --> 00:04:01,439 Speaker 1: Shower curtain ring guy. 79 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So Dell was a nickname that his buddy Tony 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,319 Ashton gave him, And so I'm gonna use Dell as 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,280 the nickname so that you don't know what I'm talking about. 82 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:10,520 All right, Okay, thee oh the guy isn't guy named 83 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:14,599 Jamie again, nickname from his wife. She called him Jamie, 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,519 not his not what most people call him. Okay, Okay, 85 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,639 So we got Dell and Jamie and they are the 86 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,959 two writers given credit for this song. All right, all right. 87 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:26,720 And then in the rest of the group, you've got 88 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,560 a guy named Robert Okay, he plays keyboards. And you 89 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,680 got a guy from Tulsa, Oklahoma, your hometown. Yes it is, yep. 90 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,000 He happened to be born on the same day as 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Paul McCartney. Okay, yeah, no, we know Paul McCartney wasn't 92 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,079 born in Tulsa, Oklahoma, so it's not Paul McCartney. It's 93 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:47,120 a different guy, but famous musician. 94 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: Right wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait, this is a 95 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,199 famous musician from Tulsa in this band, in this band, Okay, 96 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,839 all right, keep going, Okay. 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you a little bit about the album, 98 00:04:58,079 --> 00:04:59,480 and I'm gonna go go back and we're gonna do 99 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:03,240 some history it all right, okay, Okay. So the album 100 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:08,759 failure critically, failure commercially, like, nobody went out and bought it, 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,879 and none of the critics liked it. Okay. This song 102 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,199 that I'm talking about's thirteenth song on the album, thirteenth track, 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,480 and they released it as a single, just didn't do 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,279 very much, didn't chart at all in the UK. Barely 105 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:23,800 made it in the charts in the US, but then 106 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:27,439 came again in nineteen seventy two and got a little 107 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,000 more popular, came again in nineteen seventy four, nineteen seventy seven, 108 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:34,680 and then like a cover of it nearly two decades later, 109 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,199 ends up at number twelve in the US Billboard Hot 110 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,399 one hundred. Okay, okay, all right, yeah, good. So since 111 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,480 the time that this song was recorded and everybody hated 112 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,480 it when it came out, VH one and Rolling Stone 113 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,680 have both put it on their Greatest Albums of All 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Time list. What Okay? Most of the songs on the 115 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,240 album that were not songs because they did a few 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,360 cover songs. Most of the songs on the album that 117 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:08,439 were not cover songs were written by Dell and Robert 118 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:11,199 the keyboard player. Okay, but this song that I'm talking 119 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,399 about was by Dell and Jamie all Right, Okay. So 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,160 Dell had come from a couple of supergroups with a 121 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:22,759 lot of success. Okay, he actually, by many people, has 122 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,439 been equated with divinity as far as his musical skills 123 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:31,519 are concerned. And Jamie was even better as a musician. 124 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:33,639 These are the two writers of this song. 125 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: So you got a guy who plays like God, and 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,360 then a guy who's better than God. 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,439 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is about right. Okay, so they get together. 128 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,600 They they have come from this this other group that 129 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,199 you probably don't know, but I'm not going to mention 130 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,879 them anyway. And they're really both of them just sidemen 131 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,240 in the group. They're on an ensemble. They're not mentioned 132 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,800 in the name of the group. They're not singing the songs. 133 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,879 They're just a couple of side musicians. Okay, all right. 134 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,160 The name of this band actually comes from a mistake 135 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:08,079 at their first club that they played on this tour. 136 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,600 The announcer says a different name than what they have 137 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:16,000 chosen as their name, but they like the different name better, 138 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,279 and so they go with that. The guy who wrote 139 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:22,680 the Rolling Stone Illustrated History of Rock and Roll, Dave Marsh, 140 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,519 said this about this song, okay, quoting there are few 141 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,519 moments in the repertoire of recorded rock where a singer 142 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,439 has reached so deeply into himself that the effect of 143 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:38,360 hearing them is akin to witnessing a murder or a suicide. 144 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:46,319 This song is the greatest of them. Okay, okay, So 145 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:48,360 now we'll go to a little history right. Yeah. So. 146 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,279 Jamie born July nineteen forty five passed away a couple 147 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:58,240 of years ago. The guys from Toto, David Page, Jeff Porko, 148 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:02,079 the guys who were the best studio musicians of the 149 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,120 early eighties, the guys who played the music on Thriller. 150 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:09,839 They described Jamie as someone you look to with reverence, 151 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,920 like if you wanted to know how to play your instrument, 152 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,079 this is the guy you go to. You listen to 153 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,720 what he's done, and you emulate him. I mean, they 154 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:18,600 were in awe of him, that's how good he was. 155 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:24,399 He was a protege of one of Phil Spector's group 156 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:28,800 of session musicians who would become known as the Wrecking Crew, 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,000 and he became a member of the Wrecking Crew himself. 158 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:38,720 He played on pet sounds, he played on good Vibrations, 159 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,000 he played on classical gas. He played on You're So 160 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,440 Vain by Carly Simon, a song about Warren Bady, Yes 161 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:50,120 there you go right, and countless others. I mean, his 162 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:54,159 music catalog is gigantic, and he not only knew how 163 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,200 to play like any kind of music, he knew how 164 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,559 to take a song and make it a hit song, 165 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,879 right like with Carly Simon, jersol Vain, they had already 166 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:05,320 recorded and they're like, this isn't good. Let's bring this guy, 167 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,440 Let's bring Jamie in. They brought him in. Carly Simon 168 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:09,600 came in thinking the song was done. She sees him 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,480 in there and she loses her mind, but then she 170 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:15,960 gets this huge hit with this song and she has 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,039 to eat her words. Right, Okay, okay. He also played 172 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:22,440 with Alice Cooper, Joe Cocker, Harry Nilsson, Frank Zappa, and 173 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,519 Steely Dan, both of whom we know were ultra particular 174 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:28,559 about how good the people were that were playing with him. 175 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Right, watch the yacht Rock documentary if you don't know 176 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:32,519 what we're. 177 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,919 Speaker 2: Talking about exactly. Or Frank Zappa, listen to our Toto 178 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,320 episode to see how he. 179 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: Ran humiliated Steve lugather In from everybody hear the ringer. 180 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:47,279 Speaker 2: That's right. So that was Jamie. Okay. Dell born three 181 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:49,799 and a half months before Jamie was born across the world. 182 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,799 Jamie was born in La Dell is born just outside 183 00:09:53,879 --> 00:09:57,919 of London, where for the first decade of his life 184 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,720 he thinks that he's got an older sister. At eleven 185 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:05,480 years old, he learned that the girl he thought was 186 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,720 his older sister is actually his mother, and the people 187 00:10:09,759 --> 00:10:12,120 that he thought were mom and dad are actually Grandma 188 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:13,000 and Grandpa. 189 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: Tale as old as time. 190 00:10:14,759 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: Yes, right, we've had that a few times. Right. So 191 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,879 his mother had had a liaison with a Canadian Air 192 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:27,639 Force soldier at fifteenish. Yeah, and so the pregnancy resulted 193 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,399 and Dell was born out of wedlock. Interestingly, she actually 194 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,759 marries a few years later, marries a different Canadian soldier 195 00:10:34,799 --> 00:10:37,639 and moves off to Germany and leaves Dell with her 196 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,360 parents to be raised by them. The good news is 197 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:43,039 they're not too badly off, and they spoil him a 198 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,840 little bit, and eventually they buy him some musical instruments 199 00:10:46,879 --> 00:10:49,360 that he learns how to play. He started playing at 200 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,399 the age of thirteen, lost interest, but then as he 201 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,919 got into high school he realized he was terrible at sports, 202 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,080 picked up the music again, and that became what he 203 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:04,039 was good at. He ends up getting accepted into the 204 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,159 Kingston College of Art, but he gets expelled after the 205 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,279 first year because he's so focused on music and not 206 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,279 on art. His musical influences are Buddy Holly and Big 207 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,240 Bill Brunsey, The Black blues musician from Mississippi. Okay, Okay, 208 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,679 so he's out of college. He starts busking as a 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,679 young you know, as a teenager. He starts busting and 210 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,240 he gets noticed, and he goes from first band to 211 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:35,159 second ban, to third band, and by nineteen sixty six, 212 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,159 at twenty one years old, he forms a group himself. 213 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:41,879 After be involved with a pretty successful group, forms a 214 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:44,879 trio himself that becomes world famous. 215 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: Okay, keep going. 216 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,799 Speaker 2: So that was sixty six, Okay, By nineteen sixty eight, 217 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,960 this world famous band, this bands, they're done. They're done 218 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,120 with each other. Two years, two years and they're done 219 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,159 nineteen sixty nine. The next year, he forms another supergroup, 220 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:07,960 but they would release only one album with a very 221 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:13,240 controversial album cover an LP with only six songs, one 222 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,039 of which would be a hit, one of which you know. 223 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:20,159 But they dissolved after only seven months, and he's realized 224 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,039 he is tired of the limelight, and that's why he 225 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,879 decides to go with this other singer songwriter duo where 226 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:30,000 they're the named members of the group and he's a 227 00:12:30,039 --> 00:12:33,960 member of the ensemble. He's a sideman with these other 228 00:12:34,039 --> 00:12:37,120 guys called the Friends. Okay. During this time, he was 229 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:40,519 working on albums with members former members of the Rolling Stones, 230 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,840 former members of the Beatles. He did his own solo 231 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:49,480 album that didn't do much. But finally he and several 232 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,679 of these other members of this band would form this 233 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:54,399 new band that gives us a song that we're talking 234 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:54,960 about today. 235 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so far I have no idea where we're going. 236 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so just think of it as a movie, right, 237 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,279 this little so, this new band of people that are 238 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,879 all incredible musicians. They start doing tiny, little club shows 239 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:11,559 in Britain. 240 00:13:11,799 --> 00:13:13,759 Speaker 1: And these are guys who have had major hits, your 241 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:14,759 major hits. 242 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,519 Speaker 2: No major success names you would recognize, okay for sure. 243 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,919 So they do this tour of small clubs in Britain 244 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,759 and get there, get their groove down, and they're like, okay, 245 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,399 we're gonna go to Miami and we're gonna record our 246 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,559 first album together. Okay. So they go down to Miami 247 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,360 to record, and the guy they have producing their album 248 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,600 is a guy named Tom Dowd. Tom Dowd also happens 249 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:43,799 to be producing another group's album called the Almond Brothers. 250 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,039 Yes you've heard of that. 251 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: I do know them, of course. 252 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: And so after Dell had been there for a few days. 253 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,679 Tom the producer says, hey, you should go see the 254 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,120 Almond Brothers play. They're going to play at this outside 255 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:03,879 benefit cons and Dell's like, heck, yeah, I love Dwayne Alman. 256 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 I would love to listen to him play. Well. As 257 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 it turns out, Dwayne Almond is also a big fan 258 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,559 of Dell's and so because he is famous, he gets 259 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,120 to like go in front of the barricade, in front 260 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,840 of the front row, you know, and he and his 261 00:14:17,879 --> 00:14:20,799 friends are watching the Almond Brothers play. And at the 262 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,279 point that Dwayne Almond turns around and sees Dell standing 263 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,919 in the crowd, he freezes in the middle of his 264 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,679 guitar solo, and fortunately the other lead guitarist is able 265 00:14:30,679 --> 00:14:32,919 to pick it up, and then he sees why he's frozen, 266 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,080 and he just turns away so that he doesn't have 267 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,559 to get frozen as well. Because they're so in awe 268 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,240 of this guy who's watching them, right, they. 269 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:42,639 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, okay. 270 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: After the show they get to meet face to face. 271 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,559 They're kind of gushing over each other, talking about how 272 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,320 much they enjoy each other's music, and Dwayne says to Dell, hey, 273 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:55,080 I would, you know, I'd really love to come and 274 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,080 listen to you guys record, and Dell is like, heck 275 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,759 with that, get your guitar, come on, let's go tonight, 276 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,679 let's record together. They spend the entire night just riffing 277 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,480 with each other, and Tom describes it as like the 278 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:12,120 most beautiful bromance you've ever seen. Like they don't say 279 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:14,039 can you play this again? It was just they would 280 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:17,320 riff off of each other and gush and talk about 281 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:20,159 the technics of the guitar and all of this other stuff, 282 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,960 and they just they formed a brotherly bond. As it 283 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,559 turns out, for this album. Even though this is a 284 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,399 four piece band, Dwayne records almost every single song with him, 285 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,320 so it's a five member band for the recording of 286 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,360 the album. Okay Okay, So he records several of the songs. 287 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,039 His band is still out playing, so he leaves for 288 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,279 a few days and goes to play with them on 289 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:50,080 their tour, and then he comes back and on September ninth, 290 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,279 nineteen seventy, they record a cover of Little Wing and 291 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,600 they record this song that I'm talking to you about today. 292 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: This one hit okay. 293 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: All right, So this is September ninth, nineteen seventy. Tragically, 294 00:16:07,039 --> 00:16:12,399 A week later, Dell buys a left handed Fender Stratocaster 295 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:16,320 for Jimmy Hendrix as a thank you for letting him 296 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,240 play a little Wing on this album. The day and 297 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,240 next day Jimmy Hendrix dies and they have to take 298 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:26,879 the song off of the album. Ooh, okay, So this 299 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,320 band has done a little little Wing cover that you 300 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:33,519 haven't heard. Okay, okay. So after they've recorded the album, 301 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,159 Dell says, Dwayne, come tour with us. You're a key 302 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,039 member of this band. I mean this song that I'm 303 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:45,120 talking about as an unmistakable guitar riff, and Dwayne Alman 304 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,960 is the one who is responsible for the guitar riff. Okay, okay, 305 00:16:49,559 --> 00:16:51,879 it also has an unmistakable piano riff, but I'll get 306 00:16:51,919 --> 00:16:55,840 into that in just a minute. Okay, okay. So Dwayne says, 307 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,080 I would love to, Dell, but I've got my brothers 308 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:02,840 and where we've developed these shows already. I can't go 309 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:04,960 with you. I have to go with them, right Okay. 310 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,319 The album gets released in November of nineteen seventy. Less 311 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,880 than a year later, Dwayne is riding on his Harley 312 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:18,920 on Hillcrest Avenue in Macon, Georgia. As he is approaching 313 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,279 Bartlett Street, a flatbed boom truck comes to a sudden 314 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:26,400 stop in the intersection. Dwayne does a quick swerve to 315 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,240 try to miss it, but ends up hitting it. He's thrown. 316 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,960 The motorcycle is thrown and lands on top of him 317 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:35,559 and crushes him. He's alive when he gets to the hospital, 318 00:17:35,559 --> 00:17:39,559 but ultimately passes away due to his internal injuries. And 319 00:17:39,599 --> 00:17:43,240 so we've lost one of the best guitarists of the seventies. Okay, 320 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:45,599 that's Dwayne Almond. Dwayne Almond. 321 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe Greg Alman was married to Shriff 322 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,200 keep going. 323 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,559 Speaker 2: So Dell has now lost his idol, Jimmy Hendrix. He's 324 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,000 lost the guy that he has described as the musical 325 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,559 brother I'd never had but wish I did. He's lost 326 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:03,200 that guy as well. Right, So with that loss, the 327 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,720 kind of failure of the album and the song, the 328 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:10,519 band is just not going to stay together. They try 329 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:13,000 to get together for a second album and it just 330 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:16,599 falls apart almost immediately. Dell is also dealing with drug 331 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,480 and alcohol issues that he's got, trying to deal with 332 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:21,720 the pain of this and another issue that I'll bring 333 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:26,200 up there in a second. But this tragedy is not 334 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:29,720 the last one we're going to talk about today. Okay, 335 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,559 So the band breaks up, all the musicians go their 336 00:18:34,599 --> 00:18:40,240 separate ways. But as I mentioned Carl the Oklahoma Boy, 337 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,440 he'd move back to Oklahoma and he'd continue to play music, 338 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,359 but ultimately, in May of nineteen eighty, he would die 339 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,160 in Claremore, Oklahoma, from the effects of drug and alcohol. Okay, 340 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:01,160 Jamie also continued to play for big name bands because 341 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,960 he was an unparalleled virtue. So he played drums as 342 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,400 a way to escape from life. Okay, that's why he 343 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,400 was so good. But few people realized that what he 344 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,920 was escaping from were actually voices in his head that 345 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:23,839 were talking to him that weren't really there, the loudest 346 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,519 of which apparently was the voice of his mother. I 347 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:34,079 know you're thinking about, psycho, right, Psycho other He tried 348 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,279 over and over again to deal with this by going 349 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:41,160 to mental health specialist, none of whom correctly diagnosed him. 350 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,160 They all attributed it to alcohol, which, of course, he 351 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,200 was taking drugs and alcohol to deal with the voices, 352 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,519 in addition to playing the drums. 353 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:48,519 Speaker 1: Probably didn't help. 354 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:54,039 Speaker 2: And so on June third, nineteen eighty three, his wife, Rene, 355 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,000 the one who called him Jamie, came home to find 356 00:19:57,079 --> 00:20:02,480 him holding some string and piece of paper and saying, 357 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:04,839 I know what you've done. I know what you did. 358 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,519 I know that you're communing with the devil. And she's like, 359 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:13,440 what the heck and he starts attacking her, and she's thinking, 360 00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:16,799 this is how I'm going to die. He's attacking her, 361 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,000 attacking her, and then for some unknown reason, he stops 362 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,200 and he goes to the kitchen to make himself a drink, 363 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,559 and so at that moment, she gets the heck out 364 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,839 of the house, comes back into the room. 365 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,559 Speaker 1: This is Jamie. 366 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:33,279 Speaker 2: We're talking about this Jamie. Jamie comes back into the room, 367 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,279 realizing that she's gone, and he goes over to his 368 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,559 mother's house. Is seventy one year old mother. He then 369 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,799 attacks with a hammer and then ultimately stabs to death 370 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,160 with a butcher knife. 371 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:51,759 Speaker 1: What okay. 372 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: They find him a day or two later in his 373 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,240 apartment laying face down on the ground, crying hysterically. He 374 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:02,799 is ultimately arrested for the murder. After he is arrested, 375 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:09,839 he is finally accurately diagnosed with acute schizophrenia, and the 376 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,640 court accepts the diagnosis of acute schizophrenia. But because of 377 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:19,079 changes in the federal insanity defense law, California had changed 378 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,000 their laws and he was not allowed to use the 379 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,119 insanity defense at his trial, and ultimately he gets sentenced 380 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,839 to sixteen years in prison. It's nineteen eighty three, so 381 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,640 he's first eligible for parole in nineteen ninety one, but 382 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,680 he gets denied because he doesn't show up for the 383 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,759 parole hearing, and then he gets denied again the next 384 00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:41,920 time because he doesn't show up for the parole hearing. 385 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:45,559 And he continues not to show up over and over 386 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,359 again year after Where is he? He's ultimately moved to 387 00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:59,160 a mental criminal ward, but he is by all effects incarcerated. 388 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:03,200 He is a prisoner, just at a mental facility, a 389 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:08,319 convict mental facility in California. Okay, all right. Ultimately, as 390 00:22:08,319 --> 00:22:13,839 I said, he passed away March of twenty twenty three, 391 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:20,359 never having been rehabilitated from a schizophrenia, just stopped playing 392 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,319 music other than two occasionally when somebody would be playing, 393 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,480 might sit in and do a little bit here and there, 394 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:29,119 but wouldn't communicate with family, wouldn't communicate with anybody else. 395 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,880 Just kind of this amazing. I mean, arguably the greatest 396 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,359 drummer of the seventies disappears from the face of the 397 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,200 earth for all of this. Wow. 398 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, keep going. 399 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:50,799 Speaker 2: So back to the song, okay. In addition to playing 400 00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:56,319 the drums on this song, Jamie also contributed the piano part, which, 401 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,039 as I said, is absolutely iconic and this is what 402 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:06,119 gives him his writing credit. But here's the problem. He 403 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,000 stole the piano riff from his girlfriend, who we've talked 404 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:11,960 about before, named Rita Coolidge. 405 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: readA Coolidge All Time high. 406 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:19,079 Speaker 2: Go check out our octopusy Versus and Never Say Never 407 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,519 Again episode. 408 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,279 Speaker 1: And our best James Bond themes songs. 409 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: You got it Riata Coolidge. 410 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: She also sang she had a hit song called I 411 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,519 think it's called Higher and Higher. 412 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, she had. She had several several big hits, 413 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,640 and this could have been one of them, except she 414 00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:39,920 had she had played it with They're the keyboardist and 415 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,039 with her then boyfriend Jamie. They played it together and 416 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:45,920 they're like, hey, we know you guys are about to 417 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,319 record this album. They played it for Dell and she 418 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,319 never heard anything. She thought, Okay, well, I guess they're 419 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,880 not going to use it. Until a year later, she's 420 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,359 getting a photo shoot done for her album and they've 421 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,319 got the radio playing over the pa and she hears 422 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,599 this song come on and she's like, hey, wait a minute, yeah, 423 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,319 I wrote this, what is it? And they're like, no, 424 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,799 this is You couldn't have written this. This is a 425 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:14,480 brand new album, right, And so she's living. She goes 426 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,240 to Tower Records. She pulls the album to see if she's 427 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:23,160 gotten a writing credit. She hasn't, right, she calls Robert Stigwood. 428 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,000 We've talked about before, who is the manager for the band? 429 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:26,559 Speaker 3: You know? 430 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,039 Speaker 2: And she's like, hey, wait a. 431 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:33,559 Speaker 1: Minute, wait minute, Robert Stigwood beg's grease you got it? 432 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,559 Keep going Saturday Night Fever. 433 00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah okay, And so she's like, hey, this is my song. 434 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,240 You guys took this and you didn't give me writing credit. 435 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,640 And his words to her are so what you're a girl? 436 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,599 What are you gonna do? And her record label A 437 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,440 and M is like, yeah, we can't fight Robert Stigwood. 438 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,680 His pockets are gigantic. 439 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: He has big pockets. 440 00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:02,039 Speaker 2: And so she ends up with no writing credit on 441 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:02,519 the song. 442 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: Now, they don't have like laws and things that she 443 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:07,680 could have. 444 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:10,079 Speaker 2: You got to have the money to hire an attorney, 445 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:13,559 and an attorney that will last against whoever. Robert Stigwood hire. 446 00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:16,079 Speaker 1: An Octopussy wasn't it wasn't out there yet. 447 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So she gets no writing credit. Okay, she actually 448 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,880 her Her sister, Priscilla Coolidge, releases a song nineteen seventy 449 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,720 three called Time. If you listen to Time, you'll hear 450 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,119 that same piano riff in it. And of course they 451 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,519 can't go say, hey, you stole the piano riff because 452 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,680 she wrote it, and it would just open that door 453 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,799 for her, right right, So when Jamie and Rita were dating, 454 00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:46,400 at some point his demons came out and he punched 455 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,359 her in the face during a tour and like she 456 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,039 did the rest of the tour with a black eye 457 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,359 and never had anything to do with him again after that. Okay. 458 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:54,559 And then he goes and steals her song and puts 459 00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:55,200 it in this song. 460 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:58,519 Speaker 1: Right all right, man, you got me on the hook here. 461 00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,480 I'm ready to hear this. 462 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: Okay. So I've led you. I've led you with all 463 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,119 these clues, right, and some people who know who know 464 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,599 the story of Jamie who most people called Jim. Will 465 00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,680 know the song probably that I'm talking about. But I 466 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,640 haven't gotten you there yet, right I am no close. Yeah, 467 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,759 I'm about to get you there, right. I know that 468 00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:18,400 you're going to know it when I starts giving you 469 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,240 these clues. Now, Dell, in addition to dealing with the 470 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,759 struggles of finding a band that's going to work and 471 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,799 this limelight and then not the limelight, he is struggling 472 00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:35,599 because he is infatuated with someone who even in the seventies, 473 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:41,559 that kind of relationship was frowned upon, right, Okay. He 474 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,480 is struggling with this, and he talks to his friend 475 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:47,839 named Ian Dallas, and Ian Dallas just happens to be 476 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,160 converting to Islam at the same time that they're having 477 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,480 this conversation. And he said, and Ian Dallas says, there's 478 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,200 a poem you need to read, okay, And he gives 479 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,519 them this poem and it's about this princess who falls 480 00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,279 in love with a poet, but the poet is poor, 481 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,119 and the princess's father says, no, you can't, you can't 482 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,559 have anything to do with him, and marries her off 483 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,559 to a rich man and so she's with a man 484 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,319 she doesn't love, and this poor poet literally goes out 485 00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,279 in the wilderness and goes mad because he knows she 486 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,960 loves him, but he can't be with her. Right it's 487 00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:29,960 driving him insane. Okay, So Dell reads this poem and 488 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:36,440 is like, this is my predicament. Because he's in love 489 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:43,680 with the wife of his best friend. The bells are 490 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,920 going off for him. Yeah, I think they're probably going 491 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,759 off for some other people too. His best friend, I, okay, 492 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,519 is a member of the Beatles. Would you like to 493 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:54,519 tell the rest of the story. 494 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm gonna let you. I'm not gonna 495 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,920 interrupt your story, but clearly we are now talking about 496 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:09,039 Patty Boyd, George Harrison, and Eric Clapton. 497 00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Dell was the name that Eric Clapton was given 498 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,359 by his friend, Okay, when they first put the band together. 499 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:24,279 His friend said, because he didn't want to be the limelight. Right, 500 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,759 He's like, you should call the band Dell and the Dynamos. 501 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,319 The announcer for their first show, knowing that this is 502 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,119 Eric Clapton looks at this Dell and the Dynamos gets 503 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:44,759 it flipped around, combines the names and says Derek and 504 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,680 the Dominoes, and they're like, heck, yeah, that's it. That's 505 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,240 going to be the name of our band. The poem 506 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,440 that was the inspiration for the words of this song 507 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:05,960 is called Layla in the Margin or Layla and the Madman. 508 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Man. 509 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: This is awesome. 510 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about Layla in our good Fellow's episode. 511 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,599 Of course, Eric Clapton needs no introduction by us, right, 512 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,160 we talked about George Harrison. We talked about Patty Boyd. 513 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,319 Even I can't remember exactly what we were doing, but. 514 00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: Well, she was the one that inspired like four different 515 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:32,960 mega hits, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and so yes, the 516 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,559 rest of the story is, of course, ultimately that she 517 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,079 it's divorced from George Harrison and once he finds out 518 00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,480 about this affair and her love for him, and he's 519 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:45,359 even really not that mad about it because he himself 520 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,640 had been unfaithful during their marriage. What the Beatle Surprisingly, yes, 521 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:52,200 even I think fooled around with Ringo Star's wife. 522 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,519 Speaker 1: But Barbara Bach go back to our Jaspond episode. 523 00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,759 Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah, George Harrison is actually at their wedding. 524 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:05,599 He goes to the wedding of Patty Boyd and Eric Clapton. Okay, 525 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,599 and then of course Eric Clapton stays married to her 526 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,279 until nineteen eighty nine. I guess they he could live 527 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:18,640 without her, apparently, And then about three years later, Eric 528 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:33,319 Clapton is an unplugged album where covers this song that's 529 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,359 the nineties hit where it reaches twelve. 530 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,559 Speaker 1: I remember when that song came out that summer. Yeah, 531 00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,480 and I remember the unplug was an MTV unplug. 532 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: That they recorded. I don't know if it was strictly 533 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,880 MTV or if they had just done their own unplugged thing. 534 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,559 I don't remember that. 535 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: So tell me about the drummer. He's just a he's 536 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,480 one of the guys in Derek and the Dominoes. 537 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:59,799 Speaker 2: Yes, So the drummer Jamie is Jim Gordon, and Jim 538 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,839 like the beginning of the video. The first video that 539 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,880 I watched on Jim Gordon is is Jeff Corro saying 540 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,200 he's played on this song and this song, and this 541 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:10,759 song and this song, and if you want to know 542 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,400 how to play the drums, you need to go listen 543 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,680 to it and imitate everything that he does because he's 544 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,079 the best drummer that's ever lived. 545 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, Wow. That's Hey, that's great story man. I 546 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,799 was on the hook the whole time. Yeah, and that's 547 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:28,200 pretty good since I knew kind of the players involved, 548 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:34,119 so exactly. Wow, And Layla is an all time great song, 549 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:34,319 you know. 550 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so surprisingly it was not a big hit when 551 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,519 it first got released, but that's because they took the 552 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:42,119 song and they cut it in half. They cut out 553 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,759 that piano coda that Rita Poolige had come up with 554 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,839 that Jim Gordon had stolen. They cut it out, and then, 555 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,880 for a reason that I can't find, it was released 556 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,720 a couple of years later and they included that second part, 557 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:58,319 and that's when it really started to catch fire. 558 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,759 Speaker 1: And correct me if I'm wrong with I think Scorsese 559 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,559 has used it multiple times in his movies. 560 00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,759 Speaker 2: I know that it's a big feature for Good Fellows. 561 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,279 I don't know if he's used at other places. 562 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:11,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, awesome, awesome, great story man. 563 00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: Thanks wonderful. By the way, the acoustic version of Laila 564 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,319 won the Grammy for Best Rock Song in nineteen fifty three. 565 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,079 Speaker 1: I think also that summer he had a big hit 566 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,839 with Tears in Heaven. 567 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, about the death of Patty's child. Yeah, terrible. 568 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he fell out of a widow or something. 569 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,079 Speaker 2: Awesome. Great story. Thanks man. 570 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: All right, listen. If you enjoy incredible behind the scenes 571 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,079 stories like this, now we do this once a month. 572 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:42,559 You got to come check us out on Patreon and 573 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,720 get these episodes. 574 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,599 Speaker 2: They're a lot of fun. Yeah, they really are. 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