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Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve sec breakdown tit which else

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down free year with you in the Coup League and

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should look at booths of Big twelve and the Southeast

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conferences will have football fucking buck folks. As week zero

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he gets this week if some of our teams are

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in action, Far Mageddon going on an island between ky

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State and Iowa State, kau taking the Presno States on

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Saturday as well. We'll talk about those games. And with

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this being the start of the season, we got to

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give you our official predictions for each of these conferences

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as well as our national champion picks. Uh Here on

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today's program, Tom, we begin with our hot takes as

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we do each and every week, and I'll go to

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far Mageddon for mine. I'll say this, Tom, I know

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it's week zero, it's very early, but this game means

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so much when you talk about two of the top

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teams in the Big twelve Conference and the Big twelve

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title race. I'm gonna go ahead and say this. I

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think the winner of this game of this week zero

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roll Big twelve Conference matchup between KSE State and Iowa State,

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the winner of this game will be in the Big

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Twelve championship game at Arlington. I think KSE State wins,

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but I'll say even if I was State wins, that

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the winner of this game ends up in Arlington with

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a shot to win the Big Twelve title. That's all

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I'll begin this week.

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Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right about that.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna say the winner automatically is gonna

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make Arlington.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Farmageddon here as well, but I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Go a little different route, and it's gonna come down

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to really the individual here. I think that, and I'm

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putting chips on the line here. I think Averie Johnson

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goes out and Farmageddon has a big day in Ireland,

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and I think that starts his campaign that will eventually

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land him to get the Big Twelve Quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: To get Offensive Player of the Year maybe. So yeah,

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And I've said that before Tom that case State goes

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as far as Averray Johnson text them. I think we

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know that Avery Johnson is extremely talented. He has shown

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the flashes, but he's gotta stay healthy and he's got

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to take that next step up. And if they can

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get elite quarterback play out of Avery Johnson, they could

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potentially run the table in the Big Twelve. I think

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elite quarterback play for Avery Johnson is basically the only

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thing this Case State team is missing right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, you know, last year we talked

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about him, or you know, previous shows we talked about

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last year, he was you know, hot and cold.

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Speaker 2: You really didn't know what you were going to get.

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Speaker 3: You know, the games they lost were uh, for the

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most part, a lot of it had to do with

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Avery Johnson's quarterback play. I think he I think he's

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probably a little bit sharper this year. I think he's

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gonna have a great year. And like I said, I

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think he's gonna go out on Saturday and whoop some

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mass and I think it's gonna start.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the Avery Johns to campaign trail right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, So he's your rock party, Avery Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Exit Exit October Avery August.

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Speaker 1: Avery August August, Avery.

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Speaker 1: Uh, he's got two games in August to show up

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and show out, show me you're Johnson. I would say

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this when it comes to this quarterback matchup town between

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these two that if you ask me what quarterback I'd

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rather have right now at this very moment, I would

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take rock Obec, but I would say that Avery has

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the higher ceiling, that there's more potential for greatness. I

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think Rock Obec's a good quarterback, but I think he

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kind of is who he is at this point. I

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think that Avery Johnson has some untapped potential that's still

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there that could take him to the next one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still got the shoes to fill in, that's

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for sure. I mean, were right about Rock Quebec. We

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we know who he is, we know what kind of

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quarterback he is, you know, and I think KSE State

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last year, I think Avery left some you know, left

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something to be desired. And you know, if you're a

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KSE State fanky Lee, you're you're hoping that it pays off.

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I mean, you know, he's no calling Klein by any mean,

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at least compared to career compare comparison. But Avery Johnson,

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go as far as Avery Johnson takes them. And you

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know what, I think at this rate, he's what this

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is his junior year. Yeah, I think this is when

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you talk about future plans and thinking about Hey, you know,

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do I want to be considered for the NFL, you know,

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can I now's the time to start showing up and saying, hey,

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Iowa States, I think it's going to be intriguing to

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see about how certain players are replaced. When Iowa State

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is without Higgins and Nole now two one thousand yard

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receivers the first time in program history. How can you

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replace that production? But at the same time, you look

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at k State and there's no more DJ Giddons now,

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and that to me is a huge loss for them

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to be without DJ Giddons. But then you know, you

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got another really good back in Dylan Edwards, the former

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five star that was at Colorado, who was their second

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leading rusher last year. I think that, you know, when

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players to step in, and Phil rolls pretty quickly here.

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to replace the production of DJ Giddens and you're gonna

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get some running from Avery Johnson too than it is,

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the receivers they lost. To me, I think that kind

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of gives them a little leg up when you're talking

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about getting ready for this matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: And you know, DJ Giddens was was he was he

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like a camp scoutaoo now, but still he was a you.

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Speaker 3: And I can see why the Colts took DJ Giddens

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in the draft. I think we could see a lot

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of DJ Giddens this year if Jonathan Taylor doesn't hold up.

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have replacing Giddins. And you know, Iowa State they've had

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several pretty good wide receivers over the past couple year.

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you're not only replacing just one kind of star wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: You're having to replace two. Be interesting to see, you know.

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what kind of summers both of these teams have had

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and see, you know, has Rock Obec been able to

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or is he going to maybe struggle a little bit

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to find some chemistry that's kind of what I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good point and just to

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one thousand yard receivers, these are your top great receivers

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for the Iowa State cyclones. Okay, you got Xavier Towns

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coming in from UCF, who last year had a total

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of sixty nine nice receiving yards ten catches at UCF. Okay,

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then you got Chay sal coming in from East Carolina

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who had thirty four catches for six hundred and seventy

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eight yards and three touchdowns. However, he did average twenty

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yards of reception, so you do have the ability to

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stretch the field with him vertically there and then their

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leading and turning receiver on their depth yard, Brett Eskilssen

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had a total of two catches for seventeen yards. So

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and I don't know if that is going to necessarily

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go well. You know, if here's another thing, Tom, There's

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a possibility I mentioned earlier that I think the winner

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of this game is probably the Big Twelve Championship. There's

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another chance that this could be the first of two meetings.

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this year, and we could be talking about these two

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teams being completely different than what they are now, especially

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with Iowa State and their lack of depth or their youth,

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whatever you want to call it at the receiver position.

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I think that this game for Iowa States, as much

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as we're excited that it's the Week zero game and

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arguably the best Week zero matchup ever, I think this

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game of win you could pick to play a team

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like Case States, is awful timing for Iowa State here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think for I think either team, I

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think if you lose this game or season is not

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necessarily over obviously by any means. But I think a

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win for Iowa State would mean a lot more.

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Speaker 2: YEP. I mean, they both obviously want to win. I

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know I don't.

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Speaker 3: If I'm a player, I don't want to fly all

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the way across the pond and get an ass whoop.

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technically a non com game, but it is in non

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con territory. And we know Matt Campbell is not very

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good in the first three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Chris Clemons lost some big games in the first

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Speaker 2: I guess that's true.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who's who's worse in the first three games.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about k U at Fresno State. Now, I'll

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be at this game Saturday in Lawrence, and what an

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exciting time. Let's just start there for a moment. Tom,

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you know, two seasons in this place, and it's gonna

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It is gonna be hot. It is gonna be a

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Front of the Show, Tim Brando gonna be on the

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call with Devin Gardner, an electric environment, a national stage.

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You just had this three hundred million dollar gift, and

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I know Kyu is coming off five and seven campaign,

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but bringing your quarterback back, Lance Leipold is still there.

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I was here at Pete Tamil of ESPNSA the other day.

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He has never seen a program in the history of

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college football have the transition that Kansas has had over

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the last four or five years. It's pretty remarkable. Now

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it's okay, we got the Mojoe, we got the momentium

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on our side. Now they need to see results and

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see how they can build on that. And I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. And damn I'll say that

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that drone overview or fly through that was on Twitter,

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it was pretty pretty nifty. They did a good job.

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track and closing it in a little bit more and

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building the suites and the end zone. I was always

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fond of that area because they had their recliners, and

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on every table down there there was a bottle of makers.

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I thought, man, this place is trying to call me in.

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Speaker 2: This is how you want to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'll be in the touchdown club any day. But you know,

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it's like, okay, boys, listen, I know it's football season.

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might not be going to the national Championship, but hey

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Speaker 2: It all goes.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's discussions. We're not used to having Lawrence, Kansas,

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but times are different. Times have changed, and now it

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all gets started on Saturday night against Presno State. KU

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back to last year, Jayhawks got off to a rough

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start to the season. Losing to Illinois on the road,

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losing the UNLV the week following at home, and the

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season derailed from there. They lost a game to Arizona

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State that they should not have lost to the team

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that ended up winning the Big Twelve, and they didn't

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really start to pick up momentum till it was too

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late in the year and came short of getting to

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a bowl game by one game by losing to Baylor

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there in the final week of the season. But now

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you had Jalen Daniels healthy and you're not playing from

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behind like you did last year where he was still

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trying to figure himself out in that first half the season.

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in Zabrovsky, compared to that fraud Jiff Grime. So they

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brought in from Baylor last year. If if Jalen Daniels

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can stay healthy, if he looks right, and if they

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can get off to a good start to the season,

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I think that this Kansas team could could win at

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least eight games this year. I don't think it's south

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of rum a possibility, but I think even though Fresno

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State's not expected to be that good of a team,

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you can, you can build up a lot of momentum

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and be feeling good for yourself if if you have

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a strong showing here on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And you know, Fresno State's no slouch.

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It's not like they're playing hschool or anything like that,

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which would be an entertaining game if they brought back football.

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a formidable opponent. They should wink KU, that is, should win.

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There should be no reason why they don't. I think

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if you can start the season off, I would like

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Speaker 2: Necessarily KYU hater either.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see K you just go open, just

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open a can of whoop pass, and just go win

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this game by thirty.

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Speaker 1: Right, Mega Study, you're on national TV, send a message

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to everybody out there that you mean business, and then

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you're ready to play UH in twenty twenty five. I

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think you're absolutely right about that as far as that goes,

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and we'll see how it Old to Oil plays out.

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this week. One other topic I want to hit on,

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and this involves the college football Playoff, and specifically on

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the SEC side of things, Tom, there is a new

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metric that's been added to the playoff formula called strength

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of reck which, to kind of put this in a nutshell,

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it gives you credit for the teams that you played

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and what their record is kind of the value of

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the opponents. And so in theory, a team like Indiana

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last year who had a cupcake schedule and use that

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to their advantage to get to the playoff, this would

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basically kind of hurt that type of team that tries

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to benefit from an easy schedule, And a lot of

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people are pointing to that, Hey, here's the playoff committee

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trying to bend the knee backwards for the SEC and

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all this, and Tom like, I see why people would

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think that with the way the SECS managed things. But

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at the same time, too, I don't blame the playoff

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committee for doing something like this when you see teams

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like Indiana, Nebraska and others trying to basically cheat the system,

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cheat the way into the playoffs with a cupcakes schedule

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and say, hey, look at us, we didn't play anybody,

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but we're eleven and one. You can't leave us out. Like,

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who you play should matter. We do this in college

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basketball all the time, where we value based on not

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just what your record is, but who you played. And

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I understand college football is a much smaller sample size

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compared to college basketball, but teams should be rewarded for

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playing tough non conference games. If you play a Power

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four opponent, or two Power four opponents for that matter,

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I don't think you should be penalized for that. I

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don't think teams should be rewarded for playing a Cupcakes schedule.

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I think this makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, but for ratings too.

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Speaker 3: You know, you want to even if you know Indiana

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is you know, wins out or has a Cupdake schedule

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and does very well and they still let us in. Well,

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then as soon as they play someone formidable or actually

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any good, then they get an ass whoop and it

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makes for bad TV. I mean, you're looking out for

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the bottom line as much as you're looking out for

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the other teams who deserve it more.

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Speaker 2: You want a competitive game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, we like watching football and it's all

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fun and games, but I mean this is also a business,

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So I mean, really, I mean the bottom line or

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the margin is gonna literally affect any decision that a

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committee is going to make. And I think it is

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a part of that that you're not You don't want

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some overcall or a team that's not qualified, even though

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their record qualifies, to get in there and ship the

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bed on national TV when it matters, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I look at go back to twenty twenty

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one Cincinnati, who's now part of the Big Twelve, And

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how funny we bring up Indiana here, because what Cincinnati

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did was they knew they had a cupcake schedule in

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the American Athletic Conference. But with that, they knew they

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had to prove themselves and they made their schedule as

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tough as they possibly could with the circumstances they were

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given playing in the American They played a power conference

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team in Indiana on the road, beat them by two touchdowns,

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and they went into Notre Dame and beat Notre Dame

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on the road by eleven points, and they proved their

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worth that they belonged. And that team was talented. You

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had guys like Desmond Ritter, you know, Sauce Gardner, Kobe Bryant.

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I mean, there was several players that went on to

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the National Football League from that Luke Fickle team and

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they were rewarded. They got to prove themselves by embracing

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that tough schedule and they got a playoff spot out

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of it. Like to me, that's what these teams should

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be striving for. If if you're a Big twelve team,

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for example, you know, thirteen to zero in the Big Twelve,

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no matter who you are, is not going to get

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the credit to know, gets in the Big Ten or

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the SEC. But if you're say Oklahoma State for example,

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and if you can beat Oregon this year, that's gonna

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help your cause. Or if you are willing and able to,

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you know, go against those tough non conference teams and

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you can put up a good fight or you can

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sneak an upset win, you're going to be rewarded for that.

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So I like the idea of rewarding these teams for

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playing these tough non conferences. It paid off for Cincinnati

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and we might not be talking about them being a

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member of the Big Twelve had they not had that

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great twenty twenty one season where they went out there

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and proved themselves.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely agree. And you know, some of these teams,

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like you know your run of the mill. We say, Indiana,

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if there's any Indian nfp bout here or you know,

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hoo's your fans and I'm sorry, but are just speaking

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kind of the truth here. If teams out there like

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that that are trying to maybe game the system early,

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so well, we're not gaming the system.

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Speaker 2: It just works out better for us.

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Speaker 3: And well we plan to do here at this university

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or whatever boat bullshit statement they're gonna come up with,

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you know, we're we might hear. Oh, we're being punished.

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I wouldn't call it a punishment. You get to make

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the schedule. You're making the schedules. You're not being punished.

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Other teams are just being more rewarded for what they

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attempted to do or put in good faith. Right, if

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you want to be a bad fake team like Indiana

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and move series around because you know the team you

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might have scheduled years ago is looking to kick your ass,

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and well that's pretty scary football. Scared money, don't make money?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, all right, let's let's make some predictions. Let's

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talk week zero and then let's uh talk conferences in

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national championship picks?

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Speaker 4: Shall we?

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Speaker 1: Tom Iowa State, K State k State favored by three.

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I'm gonna go with k State, but I think Iowa

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State is gonna make this competitive. I think this might

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be the best Farmageddon of all time, not just the atmosphere,

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but two very good teams to have a shot to

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win the Big Twelve title. I think we're in for

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a hell of a game Saturday. Give me the Cats

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by a whisker, how about you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Purple Cats as well, and

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I'm gonna say Purple Cats by seven.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so more convinced.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it could come down to

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the last possession type thing. I mean, I think it's

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gonna be a thrilling game. It will be a damn

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shame if one team blows out the other. I will

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still enjoy it either way, but I hoped. I think

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it will be close. Both these teams are gonna be

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at each other's throats and ready to get the season

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kicked off.

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Speaker 1: Kansas and States. I'll be at this game Saturday. I

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like the Jayhawks to have a convincing win. I think

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this is one where the score tom might not be

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indicative of how much Kansas dominates. I think we're looking

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at them coming out of the gates, firing, looking to

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send a message in the first half, and maybe they

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call off the Dogs and the second half and Kurt

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Warner's son is in at quarterback at Fresno State and

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they get like a couple of garbage time touchdowns or something.

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I think Kansas wins this game, probably by three scores,

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and probably should win by more if they if they

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don't call off the dogs of sorts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking like maybe like a forty five

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twenty four KU win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds right thinking.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking somewhere in that in that area.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's uh, that's pretty spot on there.

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But uh, we'll see what Kansas can do. Kansas is

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Fresno State coming up on Saturday night, five thirty in Lawrence. There.

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All right, let's stay in the Big twelve for a

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moment out who gets to the conference championship and who

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wins the conference title game.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna go with k State, I said,

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I said earlier about Avery Johnson. I think he's gonna

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have a good season. I'm gonna go ahead and take

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case State. I know earlier I didn't want to give

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it away, but Let's say KSE State's making Arlington, and

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you know what, I like what Kenny dilly AM's doing.

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You know, you lose Kimskataboo. I don't care. He's a

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great player. They're gonna bounce back. Sam Levitt's gonna be great.

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I'm thinking KSE State and Arizona State in Arlington. I

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will take KSE State to win the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: Man we're in completed so far, we stayed the same

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on game picks, and that was my Big Twelve title

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pick too. I got k State in Arizona State with

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KSE State winning the Big Twelve title this year. I

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think Arizona State's gonna be very very good, but it'll

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be interesting to see how they replace Cam Skataboo out

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of the gates. Even though they bring back seventy percent

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of their production from last year. KSE State, I think

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that they look like a complete football team. They just

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need Avery Johnson to take that next step up. I

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got the Cats winning the Big Twelve. The SEC tom

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who gets to the SEC title game and who wins

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the SEC Championship.

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna pick the same teams here. I

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think we talked about it prior. I think maybe our

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teams are the same, but then outcomes different. I'm gonna

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say Texas versus Alabama, and I'm taking Texas to win

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the SEC.

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Speaker 1: We keep the trend going. I got Texas at BABA too.

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Speaker 2: I think parlay right now, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a believer in Georgia and Gunner Stockton, and

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I look at what Alabama has, what they bring back,

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what they've brought in. You know that that team is

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gonna be so good. I think Texas is gonna be

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talent from top to bottom. They just need to see

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Arch take that next step up. I don't know if

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Arch is necessarily gonna be a Heisman finalist, but I

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think he's gonna be very good and good enough. I'll

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go with Texas to win the league and BABA to

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be the runners up, but still ultimately end up in

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the Collechball playoff. Of course, Uh, they're in the SEC.

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So with that, let's get to the national title. Pick Tom,

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who is gonna be in the title game and who's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Win it all?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you know, as much as I hate the

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burn orange, I'm gonna have.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm rolling with Texas.

476
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,559
Speaker 3: I rolled with him in the in the College Football

477
00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:21,720
twenty sixth Dynasty League that I'm in.

478
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: Uh, I like, I like who they have.

479
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: I mean they got injuries that tied end obviously arch

480
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,240
question mark on I he'll do. Especially the Week one

481
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,160
game against Ohio State at the shoot.

482
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Speaker 2: You have Wingo Who's who's a great wide out?

483
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,759
Speaker 3: I mean, you have a pair of running backs and

484
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:45,119
I think Giftston Baxter are great.

485
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,759
Speaker 2: I really like what they've got going.

486
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say Texas, and really, you could give

487
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,559
me anybody on who they think.

488
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:53,839
Speaker 2: I think Texas is gonna win it.

489
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Speaker 3: But for what it's worth, I also like potentially here

490
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,279
in the Like I said, you can pick any team,

491
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,680
I'm gonna go ahead and say Texas versus Organ in

492
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,039
the National Championship.

493
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: Now, there was reports out this week that Dante Moore,

494
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,799
who they're very high on, is still contending for that

495
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,200
quarterback competition, that he has not won the job just yet.

496
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,480
But Dante Moore I think is a sleeper Heisman candidate potentially.

497
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,440
But Oregon, even though they went undefeated last year, they

498
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,039
didn't finish the job. And I think if your organ

499
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:36,400
this year, Tom, You're not so focused on, you know,

500
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:38,039
their first year in the Big Ten. I think they

501
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:40,160
wanted to make a statement like, hey, let's go thirteen

502
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,279
and oh, let's win the Big Ten. And then it

503
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,079
was like, oh shit, now we got a college football

504
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:47,200
playoff to win. We just you know, went through all this,

505
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,519
Now we got to go through the playoff. I think

506
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:53,000
if your organ now you say to yourself, Okay, winning

507
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,039
the Big Ten would be nice. Going thirteen and oh

508
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:57,920
again would be nice, but we've already proved ourselves winning

509
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,759
this league in our first year. They just need to

510
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:02,960
do what they can to figure themselves out and put

511
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,160
themselves in the best position for the playoff. If they

512
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,880
win the Big Ten, if they go thirteen to know,

513
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,519
I think that's gravy. I think now, if you're Dan

514
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:14,960
Lanning in company, Dan Lanning I think is a fantastic coach,

515
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,279
but his shortcomings have been in big games and been

516
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,799
in these playoff games. I think that's where they kind

517
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,160
of have to turn their focus to.

518
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

519
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,759
Speaker 3: I mean, at that point, it's it's kind of like

520
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:28,519
you it's in a way, it's kind of like in

521
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:32,400
the NBA, right, you don't you know, you don't have

522
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,240
to be the number one seed some of these teams.

523
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,599
Speaker 2: Hey, what you need to focus on is just getting

524
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,599
in right.

525
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,519
Speaker 3: You don't want to be now, you don't want to

526
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:45,720
be a playing team here. You want to solidify your spot,

527
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,440
But you don't necessarily organ. You don't necessarily need to

528
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,640
be have a first round by I'm sure you would

529
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,799
love to have it, for sure, But I think if

530
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,720
you're Organ, you just say, hey, we're going to play

531
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160
the best football to our best ability that we can,

532
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,480
and when it comes down time of it, we might

533
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,319
have to make some decisions and say, hey, we're gonna

534
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:12,559
focus on being healthy, ready and hot for the college

535
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:13,279
for a playoff.

536
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,559
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Texas as well to make

537
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,920
the title game. But we have our first disagreement here, Tom.

538
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,799
I got the Penn State Nitney Lyons getting to the

539
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:28,440
title game and winning the whole thing. I believe in

540
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,599
Drew Aller. I know James Franklin hasn't been great in

541
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,319
big games. I get that, but I really like their

542
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,640
oc Andy Koloniki a lot. He did a fantastic job

543
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,039
at KU. I think he and Drew Aller are a

544
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400
very good fit. Not gonna be easy to replace. Tyler

545
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,079
Warren but they got some dogs on that defense too.

546
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,240
I think Penn State walks away with the national title

547
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,279
Penn State versus Texas. Penn State gets over the hump

548
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,160
and gets the job done. But with all that said, Tom,

549
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,920
it's put up or shut up time. Like you know, eventually,

550
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:01,960
James Franklin the company is gonna have to get over

551
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,720
that hump and win those big games. And for me,

552
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:07,599
it kind of reminds me of the discussion we had

553
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,720
about Ryan Day. Ryan Day couldn't win the big one still,

554
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,920
you know, needs to be Michigan. He won the whole

555
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640
thing last year without beating Michigan. But but I think

556
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,480
last year was Ryan Day's year to get over the hump.

557
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,240
I think this is James Franklin's year to do the

558
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,880
same thing, and.

559
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,359
Speaker 3: Very might well happen. I mean, you know, for Penn

560
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,079
State to do it, I think it would be huge.

561
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,880
I mean, you have Ohio State just announced Julian Saying

562
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,599
is going to be their starting quarterback. I mean obviously

563
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640
the one that last year with Will Howard, So I

564
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,200
mean I can't imagine that. I would say Julian Saying

565
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:46,480
is as good as Will Howard, if not maybe better.

566
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: From what we've seen and heard.

567
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:54,519
Speaker 3: You know, they still have Jeremiah Smith, who is great,

568
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,839
and they're gonna be locked and loaded, ready to go.

569
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,000
They're gonna it's hard to defend the title. I don't know,

570
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,680
it's been a while since we've feel like like, well,

571
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,680
I guess it hasn't been that long, but I don't

572
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,440
know if. I don't know if Ryan Day is the

573
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,960
guy that could go back to back, but we'll see.

574
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,200
And then you have Oregon too to compete with. It's

575
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:22,000
the Big ten is going to be. It's gonna be

576
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200
could as a potential to be kind of a bloodbath

577
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:27,039
on who gets out of there. And really I think

578
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,880
a lot of it comes down to Jones. Like you

579
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,920
mentioned too, you gotta be healthy, yep. I mean, to

580
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,240
win a national championship obviously requires a lot of skill,

581
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:40,920
but just like in any sport, to win a national

582
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,960
championship or the main trophy in anything, it takes a

583
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:44,920
little bit of lock.

584
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Yep. You gotta win three maybe four games in December

585
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,599
and January and you could be a completely different team

586
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,200
than what you were in October and November. So it's

587
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,680
it's a good point there. My playoff field by the

588
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,240
way I got Clemson winn of the ACC, Penn State

589
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,119
winn of the Big Ten, Arizona State winn of the

590
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,079
Big twelve, Texas winned the SEC. They all get in

591
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:15,200
the playoff. And then I got Bama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon, Illinois,

592
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:22,960
South Carolina, KSE State in Tulane. You know, they're in

593
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,839
the playoff field. And then I'll go with I'll go

594
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,480
with Jeremiah Smith, the Ohio state wide receiver, to win

595
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,759
the Heisman Trophy. I think that he was unbelievable last

596
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,759
year and I think he'll take a huge step again.

597
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,240
I'll go with him to win win the Heisman Trophy.

598
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:44,920
Just put up ungodly numbers. This is not a great

599
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,680
year for quarterbacks, and so I think with that, it's

600
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,960
a good year to pick a non quarterback to win

601
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,519
the Heightsman Trophy. And that's one reason why I got

602
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,720
Jeremiah Smith. You got a Heisman picked for me in tom.

603
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,519
Speaker 3: I like Jeremiah Smith, you know, I mentioned him earlier,

604
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:02,000
and and I like that pick a lot.

605
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: I think the only y'all go.

606
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,839
Speaker 3: I like Jeremiah Smith too, but I'm gonna I'm gonna

607
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,640
change it up a little bit just for the sake

608
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,759
of being different. I'm gonna stick with you on not

609
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,079
not being a quarterback. I'm gonna just take the other

610
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,079
wide receiver set out there. I'm gonna say, Ryan Williams.

611
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:22,119
I mean, it seems like a DeVante Smith type of

612
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,599
year for you know, a wide receiver to get it.

613
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,279
So I think one of those two guys is a

614
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:28,960
solid pick.

615
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right about that.

616
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,640
And we'll see how it all ultimately plays out here

617
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,559
in twenty twenty five. Tom. One more set of predictions

618
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:46,200
here for you. We are a pro coach firing show

619
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:52,480
on this program. And how about this. Let's let's each

620
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,960
give a name from the Big twelve in the sec

621
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:59,400
of a coach that we can garantee will be fired

622
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:05,000
end of the season. I'll let you start. Give me

623
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,119
a Big twelve and give me an SEC coach that

624
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,320
you think is getting canned.

625
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,119
Speaker 3: Let's see Big twelve coach getting canned. I'm gonna say,

626
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:23,599
hm hmm, we can't use Neil Brown anymore. Unfortunately, we

627
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,679
got we got rid of him finally, all right, we

628
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,639
can't we can't use him, sadly, sadly, I.

629
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,639
Speaker 1: Think the Neil Brown memorial firing.

630
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: I think I think they're gonna give Joey Maguire another

631
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,480
year if he doesn't pan out and.

632
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,079
Speaker 2: They don't do well with that money.

633
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: I think Gundy could be on the list if he

634
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,480
shuits a bed and goes three to nine again. I

635
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,239
don't I think they would still give him one more

636
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,519
year to figure it out. But I think right now

637
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:02,639
they might have even giving him extensions. So forgiving me

638
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,400
if I'm wrong here, but it might be Dave Randa.

639
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I think.

640
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: If Baylor doesn't do very well, I don't you know,

641
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,440
every every time it seems like Dave Randa's on the

642
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,840
hot seat, he figures it out and turns it around.

643
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,519
And I think if I think Baylor might eventually get

644
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:28,320
sick of it, and this might be the year if

645
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:34,840
Baylor doesn't do well that they say goodbye. David Randa

646
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,159
will figure something else out.

647
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not a big Dave Randa fan. I think

648
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,440
he's a fraud. And I don't think Baylor is as

649
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,719
good as people think. I don't believe in Sawyer Roberts

650
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,360
at all at the quarterback position either. I think Aranda's

651
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480
a good choice what about an SEC coach you got

652
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,400
out there for Invinables.

653
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: Maybe no, no, no, you know who.

654
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: And I hate to say this guy and I feel

655
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,599
like they gave him another chance, and I feel like

656
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:11,760
he might even retire. Maybe I would love to have

657
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,079
some old kolbeer with him. But I think this may

658
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:16,880
could be the end of the road for Sam Pittman.

659
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

660
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: He might hang it up.

661
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be a peaceful exit, but there will

662
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,400
be an exit for Sam Pittman.

663
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: I didn't want to see your obvious choice. I know

664
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,559
what's coming for your SEC coach.

665
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: Yes, so let's start with the Big Twelve. For me,

666
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,000
I am going to go Joey McGuire because if they

667
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,239
do not make the Big twelve championship game with the

668
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:46,880
twenty eight million or thirty million dollar roster they have,

669
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,760
it is going to be hard to justify bring Joe

670
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,960
McGuire back. I don't think Joe McGuire is a very

671
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,920
good coach. I think Joe McGuire is going to be

672
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,480
gone and Texas Tech is going to highly underperform. They

673
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,280
have a very good roster, but I do not think

674
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,119
they have the coaching there. I think McGuire's going sec Tom,

675
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,199
I feel like the obvious choice would be Jeff Levy

676
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,920
at Mississippi State. But hear me out on this. I

677
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,320
have been told from a very good source that Zach Selman,

678
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:20,159
the AD at Mississippi State, is the front runner to

679
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:23,960
be the next AD at Oklahoma. And we know why.

680
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:27,280
You know, the Selman family very tight with OU. He was,

681
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,320
you know, Joe C's right hand man and everything. I

682
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,760
don't think Tom that even if Mississippi State struggles, even

683
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,639
if it's not within the best interests in Mississippi State here,

684
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:42,920
if your Zach Selman, I don't think you want to

685
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,239
make that call of firing your head coach, especially guy

686
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,880
though you ties it for that end, when you're trying

687
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,800
to be the next day d at OU. Now, maybe

688
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,559
the President steps up and says you have to fire

689
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,159
Jeff Levy, But if you're trying to impresso you here

690
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,639
and get that OU job, there's probably something you don't

691
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:06,639
want to do. So I'm not gonna go with Jeff Levy,

692
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:09,400
although I think Mississippi State will be very bad. I

693
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,880
will go with Billy Napier Florida. I think that things

694
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,400
are gonna go very poorly. I don't believe in DJ

695
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:20,039
Lagway at all whatsoever. I think that he's gonna be

696
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,840
gone and we're going to see the Billy Napier experiment

697
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,679
be the new Neil Brown of sorts, and things will

698
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,920
go bad there. I will. I'll bring this up Tom

699
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,840
one more point on coaching firings, Brian Kelly and Brent

700
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,039
vinibles are gonna be very interesting to watch, and you

701
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,079
could throw in Lincoln Riley in there for that matter

702
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:45,840
as well. With the Big ten three coaches that all

703
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,599
took their programs over at the same time, they're all

704
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:52,119
three getting paid a lot of money. Their buyouts are

705
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,960
not cheap by any stretch of the imagination. I think

706
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,920
all three of those guys have to have top twenty

707
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,679
teams if they want to keep their jobs. Because those programs,

708
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,639
all three of them owe U, L, s U and USC,

709
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:06,960
the money they have, the resources they have, There's just

710
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,119
no excuse for them not to be competitive here. I

711
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:11,159
think all three are under tremendous pressure.

712
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they could be. I'll I think Venables

713
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,519
will be fine.

714
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: I as much as I hate to say it, I

715
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,719
hate see them do good. I think their offensive coordinators

716
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,679
it could be a home run higher. Yeah, and I

717
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:35,079
think I think Matier might say Venable's job. I think, oh,

718
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:36,639
he is gonna have a pretty damn good year.

719
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:38,159
Speaker 4: Uh.

720
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 3: And for you Sooner Gooner fans out there, it's gonna

721
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,760
be it's gonna be like a breath of fresh chair

722
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,079
from the past few seasons.

723
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: I would say Tomas win those three. If I were

724
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,800
frank them, I would say Brian Kelly's the safest because

725
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,320
he's probably got the best team of the three. Venables second,

726
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,840
and then Lincoln Riley's seat is the absolute hottest because nobody,

727
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,199
even USC fans, nobody is believing that USC is gonna

728
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:07,639
be a good team this year. There's some optimism in Norman,

729
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,119
maybe even a bit too much optimism. I saw our

730
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:12,960
friend Kad McFarlane the other day talking about that people

731
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,199
are talking about this OU team like they just came

732
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,599
off an SEC championship appearance and they got twenty NFL

733
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:22,199
players on the roster, which you know twenty players are

734
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,360
gonna be drafted this year. That's just not true. LSU,

735
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:27,639
like a lot of people can census is they'll be

736
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,480
a playoff team. But nobody believes USC is going to

737
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:34,920
do anything. And I think that you know that that's

738
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,599
the coach that's most likely to go. And I wouldn't

739
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,800
even roll out of mid season firing potentially because once

740
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,119
they're through with you in Los Angeles at USC, they

741
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:46,880
are done with you and they're not afraid to get

742
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,639
that coaching shirt started right away.

743
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think so too.

744
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:55,639
Speaker 3: If and you know, obviously didn't work out for him

745
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,960
or it's not, I don't. I don't even think a

746
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,719
long term even if they do, if they surprise this year,

747
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,440
I don't think they will.

748
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: Long term.

749
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,159
Speaker 3: It's it's not it's still not gonna work out, right,

750
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,199
I it's I don't. I don't know where he goes

751
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,880
from here. You're just kicking the can down, Yeah, I

752
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,480
mean kind of collecting the check. He's got that nice

753
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
that nice house out there that he bought for however

754
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,360
many million.

755
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: You know.

756
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: I bet his I bet his wife is like a

757
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:32,800
step for wife probably, And I don't. I mean, and

758
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,679
now obviously you're not a Lincoln Riley fan. If he

759
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,119
is canned middle of the season, where do you where

760
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:41,199
do you think you could see him?

761
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: And I think he goes the uh Cliff Kingsbury round.

762
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,000
We see him as an NFL offensive coordinator.

763
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that.

764
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:55,559
Speaker 3: You think his you think his little brother gets a

765
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:57,679
chance as a coach here Soon.

766
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: We'll see his little brother's the oc AT clumpson Garrett Riley,

767
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,679
and if they have a very good year, I think

768
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,320
he'll certainly get some calls, you know, and a lot

769
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,800
of people optimist it about that Clemson team, So we'll

770
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,840
see certainly, certainly possible as far as that goes. But

771
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:21,599
who would have thought of that hiring cycle That was

772
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:25,400
maybe the biggest we've ever seen that Marcus Freeman was

773
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,320
gonna end up being the best head coach of those four.

774
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,440
I think he was the one that people had the

775
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,679
least optimism about. And he's coming off a national title

776
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,960
appearance at Notre Dame and they're gonna be a contending team,

777
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,159
a playoff team once again. So watch out more to come.

778
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,880
We're gonna be joined by Jerry Palm of CBS Sports.

779
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,719
Get his thoughts on everything happening I say at CBS Sports.

780
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,199
He just left CBS Sports. He's doing his own thing.

781
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,960
We'll get his thoughts in the Big Twelve, in the

782
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,679
SEC and tall college football playoffs. When he Joints is

783
00:42:56,679 --> 00:43:02,360
coming up next. Joining us now on the program this

784
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,639
week from the brand new site Palm Brackets, formerly of CBS,

785
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:09,519
it is long time college football and college basketball writer

786
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:13,519
Jerry Palm who's here with us, and he joins us

787
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,800
right now. Jerry, appreciate the time and congrats on the

788
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,760
new site. Some exciting stuff going on here after a

789
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,480
great run you had there with CBS.

790
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:26,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, and thanks for having me on. Yet, I

791
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:29,480
started out with my own website, which I had for

792
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:31,679
quite a while before CBS picked me up, and now

793
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,079
I'm going back to basically where I started and having

794
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:39,039
my own website again and giving me sort of the

795
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:41,360
freedom to do the kind of things I like to do,

796
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:45,400
both with writing and with the analytics. So hopefully people

797
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,400
will come and enjoy it.

798
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: I like with the site, Jerry, for what I've seen

799
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,559
that it's not anything flashy. It's just all right there

800
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:56,239
in front of you and giving people the business just

801
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:57,159
straight to it.

802
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've always on that I'd preferred to really focus

803
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,519
more on the content than making it overly pretty. It

804
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:09,000
needs to be readable, of course, but I could put

805
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,519
like little helmet graphics next to every team, but that

806
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:15,039
just takes longer to load, it takes up space. It's yeah,

807
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:18,599
it's a thrill, and I'm not really into things that

808
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:22,519
are that make things more inefficient, even little things like that,

809
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:24,960
So I try to make the site efficient to get

810
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,440
around and efficient to display.

811
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:31,079
Speaker 1: Let's start Jerry and the Big Twelve conferences. We're already

812
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:35,079
getting started with Week zero this week in Ireland, Pharmageddon

813
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,679
between Iowa State and Kansas State. And not only is

814
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,599
this a rivalry game to start things before everyone else does,

815
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:46,360
We're not even technically the Week one just yet, but

816
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:50,719
this game's got some major Big Twelve implications, even playoff

817
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,400
implications to an extent as well.

818
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 4: Sure, it's the Big Twelve. I think it's going to

819
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,000
be the most interesting to follow. It probably was last

820
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,920
year as well, just in terms of of the competitiveness

821
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:07,840
at the top of the conference and so many teams involved.

822
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,639
You could make a case for at least six teams

823
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:13,559
to emerge as a conference champion this year. Two of

824
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:16,840
them are playing in Ireland this weekend. I actually have

825
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,239
both of those in my current college football playoff projection.

826
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,920
I am the least confident of those two just because

827
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:27,320
of the competition within the league. So this is a

828
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,159
big game. You know, obviously the winner has an advantage,

829
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,519
but there are so many potholes ahead. You've got to

830
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:38,280
be ready every week in the Big Twelve, in particular,

831
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,920
if you want to win a conference title, you've got

832
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,199
to be mentally sharp every week, physically sharp, ready to go,

833
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:48,599
because you can't afford to take a loss to a

834
00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:50,880
team that should not beat you if you want to

835
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,440
compete for the conference title in this league. So, yeah,

836
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,239
this is a huge game. The Island Game last year

837
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,079
ended up being huge two only because Florida State's loss

838
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:05,039
turned them into this enormous spiral of a season. Hopefully

839
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,159
the loser of this game won't have that problem, but

840
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:10,159
the winner certainly has an early leg up on what

841
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,679
figures to be a very interesting conference race.

842
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I look at this game. Two quarterbacks that

843
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:19,679
I think are certainly capable, with rock Obec and Avery Johnson,

844
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,639
but each of them trying to take that next step

845
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,800
of sorts. What's you know rock O Beec gonna do

846
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,159
without his top receivers that both went to the NFL.

847
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,320
And then Avery Johnson, a former four star quarterback. He's

848
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,119
been good, but still waiting to see if he can

849
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:40,000
become great here. I think, honestly, Jerry, this matchup on

850
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:42,840
Saturday might come down to these two quarterbacks. Sup performs better.

851
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,599
Speaker 4: Let's say you, Yeah, this is actually a league that's

852
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,119
got in part of what makes it, you know, a

853
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,119
league with a lot of competitive teams. If you've got

854
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,920
a fair number of returning quarterbacks. Yeah, and you know

855
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,559
a lot of teams, you know, you get a really

856
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:57,760
good quarterback and they're off to the NFL as quick

857
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,159
as they can. And the Big Twelve has got you know,

858
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,599
half a dozen returning quarterbacks that are gonna be on

859
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:07,719
teams that are pretty competitive. And and I think that's

860
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,079
part of what makes his race so interesting. And these

861
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:14,000
are obviously two of them different guys. Uh. And you know,

862
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,800
it's college football, so you're gonna lose pieces every year.

863
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:19,639
You know, that's the nature of the sport. So I

864
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,559
find that you've probably just got guys that haven't gotten

865
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,159
their chance, and we'll have an opportunity now to step up.

866
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

867
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 4: And you know, for Iowa State, it's gonna be receivers

868
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,760
that need to step up so that their offense can

869
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,039
be efficient. But both of these teams, you know, with

870
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:39,880
with really quarterbacks with some star potential in college football.

871
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,159
I'm not gonna speak to the next level, it's too

872
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:44,519
early for that, but you know, these are these are

873
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:49,440
quarterbacks that can carry their teams a long way into

874
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,800
this season. And you know, Iowa State did that last year.

875
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,199
They had a great season last year, So it's gonna

876
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:02,360
be another just really, you know, it may come down

877
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,079
very well to which of these quarterbacks performs the best

878
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:07,440
or at the on the other side of the field,

879
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,360
which defense can make the opposing quarterback uncomfortable and maybe

880
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,400
for some turnovers.

881
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and staying in the Big twelve, let's kind of

882
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,480
talk about some of the other teams. The reigning champion

883
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:21,320
is Arizona States, and they have a very impressive quarterback

884
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,599
in their own right in Sam Levitt. Coming back, they

885
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:28,000
return over seventy percent of their production from a season ago,

886
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:32,199
but one key piece missing from that production is Cam Scattapoo,

887
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,920
who was so fantastic in twenty twenty four. I'm looking

888
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,280
at Arizona State, Jerry, and I see a team that's

889
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,440
got a lot of potential. But last year, I think

890
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,719
it was not until maybe the halfway or three quarter

891
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,760
point in the season that people even noticed how good

892
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,400
Arizona State actually was, and it's it's gonna be a

893
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,480
total different animal for them. I imagine of being the

894
00:48:57,159 --> 00:49:00,800
hunted as opposed to being the hunter now with getting

895
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,320
these teams best shot uh this season? How what what

896
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,679
do you think of of Arizona State heading into twenty

897
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,400
twenty five here?

898
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're one of those half a dozen that certainly

899
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,480
could you know, uh be a conference champion in their

900
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:17,559
in their case again, but replacing Cam Scattibo, I mean,

901
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,840
that's that that's a unique guy. You know, you may

902
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,320
not replace him with one guy. You may you might

903
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:26,400
you know, have a committee of guys that do different

904
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,599
things than all of which he could do. It's uh,

905
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,719
I he was one of my favorite players in college

906
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,239
football last year and it's just he was so much

907
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,559
fun to watch. Uh it was as I'm a Purdue guy,

908
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:40,320
and he had a little bit of Mike Alstott and

909
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,679
for those of you old enough to remember Mike Alstott.

910
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:47,800
Uh So, Camp Scattabo is gonna be pretty hard to

911
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,800
replace scattaboo. But yeah, you know, Arizona State will still

912
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,639
has weapons on that offense, but they're probably gonna be

913
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:59,039
a little more diverse offensively, and that might actually make

914
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,400
him tougher to defend, and because you're not going to

915
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,960
be focusing so much on one guy.

916
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:06,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a terrific point. We're joined by

917
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,239
Jerry Palm here on the program this week as we're

918
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,239
talking all things Big Twelve at SEC College Football Preview

919
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,440
with a kickoff coming up here in just a matter

920
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:20,559
of days. Jerry looking elsewhere in the Big twelve conference,

921
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,760
a lot of attention of course on coach prime Deon Sanders,

922
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:29,480
his son. His son's no longer there. Also, Travis Hunter's

923
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,840
gone now, but they still believe they're building something here

924
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,320
there in Boulder. What do you think of what Deon

925
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,039
Sanders has in store for year three?

926
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:42,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that this is really when we might

927
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:45,719
find out, you know, how good Deon Sanders actually can

928
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,840
be as a coach at this level because he's lost.

929
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:51,840
I mean, Travis Hunter was the best player in college

930
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,559
football every year he was in school. And Shador was

931
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,079
a good player too. You know, he ended up getting

932
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,719
it drafted. But you know, Travis Hunter is the guy

933
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,920
that you just don't replace, and so now you know

934
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,920
he's not gonna have the flashy star. You know, he's

935
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,800
gonna have a team of guys that he's now fully recruited. Uh,

936
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,360
and they're gonna have to go out and compete in

937
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,440
one of the toughest leagues to compete in because of

938
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,519
how many good teams there are. If Colorado can stay

939
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:23,239
in the conference title hunt and make a run for it,

940
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:26,119
I think that that's probably the best you can expect

941
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:28,440
from Colorado this year. I don't really see them as

942
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,480
one of those half a dozen teams, but that doesn't mean,

943
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:34,159
you know that they couldn't push their way in. They're

944
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:37,039
just playing under the radar because these other teams have

945
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:41,480
got so much returning talent and Colorado has lost, you know,

946
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,679
a generational player that you know with a weapon on

947
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,960
both sides of the ball. You hardly ever even see

948
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,440
anything like that. So Colorado will be more one of

949
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,920
the more intriguing teams to follow this season, and I

950
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,599
think expectations will be tempered a little bit and that

951
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:01,599
may help them, uh, you know, because they might fly

952
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,360
as under the rad rsdon stands to fly.

953
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right about that. Another game in

954
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,159
the Big Twelve this week, Kansas taking on Fresno State. Uh,

955
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,360
Jaylen Daniels back for his sixth season in Lawrence. As uh,

956
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:19,119
they're starting quarterback, and I feel like Jerry, you know,

957
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,480
I'm a Kansas guy myself, so I know this team

958
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:25,480
pretty closely, and I think we're gonna learn pretty quickly

959
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,159
because you look back at last year, they got off

960
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,440
to such a rough start, but they were playing as

961
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,519
well as anybody at the end of the year, and

962
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:36,199
Jalen Daniels took a while to get going himself. If

963
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,800
if they can have a good showing against Fresno and

964
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,400
if they can, you know, maybe pull off an upset

965
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,079
against Miszoo in uh in the non conference play, I

966
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,440
think people should be watching out for this, uh, this

967
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:50,199
Kansas team potentially. But I think we're gonna They're gonna

968
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,280
be one. I believe that we'll learn pretty fast. What

969
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,280
do you What do you think of what Lance Leipold

970
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,840
has there in Lawrence? A big gift for them too,

971
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,119
getting a three hundred million dollars last week as well.

972
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: Nice Huh. I don't know how much that helps them

973
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,679
this particular season, but yeah, their quarterback is terrific. It's just,

974
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:08,679
you know, they got off to such a slow start

975
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,039
last year. They need to be ready to go Week

976
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:13,280
one and Fresnoe stage is a game that they should

977
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,000
be able to win. Fresno State has had some quality

978
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:19,639
teams over the years. Like a lot of the Group

979
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,039
of five teams, it kind of becomes hit and this

980
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:23,800
as soon as you get good, you lose your coach

981
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,119
and you're almost rebuilding all the time. So for a

982
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,840
team like, for example, Poise State to be as consistently

983
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,760
good as they are is pretty remarkable among the Group

984
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,920
of five. This Presno State team should not be a

985
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,800
big threat to Kansas. They've got to come out and

986
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:41,719
and then you know, nobody plays their best football in

987
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400
Week one, but they've got to come out and put

988
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:48,679
up a performance that they can build on as they

989
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,880
get in toward conference play because they need some momentum.

990
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,079
You know, they can't have the the rough start they had,

991
00:53:55,559 --> 00:53:57,199
and you know they've got to build off of. Really,

992
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,920
they're building off the moment of how they finished last year.

993
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:02,559
That's got to continue into the start of this season

994
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,199
so that they could possibly be a player in the

995
00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:06,039
Big twelve race.

996
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're you're right about that. Who else

997
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:11,199
in the Big Twelve? We mentioned about how much depth

998
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,360
there is in this league. We haven't talked about Baylor

999
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,159
or Utah or many other techs, Texas Tech as well.

1000
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:21,719
Who's who are some of those teams that catch your

1001
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,000
eye in this league.

1002
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,679
Speaker 4: I think Baylor a lot of people think of as

1003
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:28,480
the favorite. If you were going to have a look

1004
00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:31,159
around at previews and stuff to have a consensus, I

1005
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:36,039
think that Baylor would be, if not the consensus, you know,

1006
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:39,239
one of the consensus teams that people are looking at.

1007
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,519
And I think part of the reason why is you've

1008
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:44,480
got so many good returning quarterbacks in this league and

1009
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,280
it's such an important position on the field is to

1010
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,199
have a veteran quarterback, and Baylor is another one of

1011
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,719
those teams. So it's I think that, you know, people

1012
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,239
that are favoring Baylor, I think have a good reason to.

1013
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,280
I think Texas Tech is in the mix. TCU could

1014
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,920
be in the mix. It's I just I can't think

1015
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,119
of a more compelling league top to bottom of the

1016
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:09,320
Big twelve because you've got you've got enough returning players

1017
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,360
on a lot of these teams, and so many of

1018
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,960
the top quarterbacks in this league came back this season.

1019
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you're looking at Texas Tech. We

1020
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,519
know how much money they spend on that roster. Projections

1021
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,280
were about the second most in college football behind Texas,

1022
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,400
and you know a lot of pressure on Joey Maguire

1023
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,320
and everything there this season with how much they're spending.

1024
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,000
But I would say, Jared, I don't know how you

1025
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,239
think about this. If you're a Texas Tech fan, obviously

1026
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,320
you want to win the Big Twelve this year, compete

1027
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,000
for college football playoffs, But with the money they're investing there,

1028
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:44,519
as long as the money's still there, I don't think

1029
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:47,840
Texas Tech is going away by any stretch of the imagination.

1030
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:50,280
I would if I'm a Red Raider fan, I would

1031
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,480
be pretty optimistic about this future, even if this year

1032
00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:53,320
doesn't go their way.

1033
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a start. I mean, you're building here, right,

1034
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,280
and you've got your building a war chest to go

1035
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,000
after talent, and it's hard to do it all in

1036
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,559
one year, especially in football basketball. I think they have

1037
00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:10,079
higher expectations because of the money they're thrown into that program,

1038
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,000
and you only really need about maybe three really good

1039
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,679
players and a cast around them to be successful. In

1040
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,880
basketball football you need much more than that. So it's

1041
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,280
a little harder to get an investment to pay off

1042
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,800
immediately in football, but yes, if you're a Texas tech band,

1043
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,559
you have to be encouraged with the direction that athletics

1044
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:34,960
is going and what they're investing into that because it

1045
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,480
takes investment now to really be good and Texas Techas

1046
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,159
and their boosters are stepping up to do that.

1047
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Big time beg time. Let's shift gears now head to

1048
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:47,639
the Southeastern Conference. Texas the preseason number one and almost

1049
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,920
every poll, all eyes are on arch Manning as he

1050
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,400
takes over as the starting quarterback there, obviously carrying the

1051
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,559
family name and all Jerry. What's a realistic expectation to

1052
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:03,960
think for arch Manning in this Texas team? Because everyone's

1053
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,400
all over the place with Texas and the comparisons are

1054
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,599
you know, already jumped the shark, it seems on what

1055
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,960
this guy could potentially do. What do you think of

1056
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,320
Texas entering twenty twenty five and how good do you

1057
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,159
think arch Manning realistically is going to be?

1058
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,079
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's his first year as a full

1059
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:23,679
time starter. He got in a couple of games last year,

1060
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,679
but it's it's gonna be you know, he comes from

1061
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:34,159
a family of quarterbacks, although his his particular father wasn't

1062
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:37,920
one of the star quarterbacks. But it's it's a it's

1063
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,760
a family that that knows about dealing with pressure. Those

1064
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,639
were almost like built for it. So, you know, I

1065
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,239
don't know that. I mean, he's been arch manning in

1066
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,800
all his life. You know, he's been under a microscope

1067
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,599
all his life. So I don't know that it's gonna

1068
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:54,840
be that much different this year now that he's you know,

1069
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,599
the full time starter. But he's a very talented kid.

1070
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:02,079
It's a big reason why Texas is the preseason number one.

1071
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,840
I actually have them as the seventh seed in my

1072
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,519
projected playoffs. But that has nothing to do with, you know,

1073
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:12,679
the total level of talent at Texas. It has to

1074
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:15,760
do with their schedule. They open at Ohio State, They're

1075
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,320
two and a half point underdogs. They're gonna have to

1076
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,360
go to Georgia at the beginning of November. They're gonna

1077
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,519
probably be an underdog in that game. If both of

1078
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:25,800
these teams are what they think they are going into it,

1079
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,519
then you know, they could end up ten and two

1080
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,599
and ten and two. They might not even get to

1081
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:34,800
play for an SEC title. So but if they are

1082
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,400
the seventh seed in the playoff, that's not really a

1083
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,639
big disadvantage. You get a home game and then you

1084
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:44,400
don't have the really lengthy buy that the College Football

1085
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,039
Playoff has built into this. And I just don't see

1086
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:49,599
how being off for three and a half weeks, which

1087
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:54,360
includes the Christmas holidays, is a big advantage. And last

1088
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,079
year we kind of saw it, I mean, three out

1089
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:58,119
of the four loss but this will be the first

1090
00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:02,199
time where the teams that are getting buys will be

1091
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:04,280
the higher rate team in every one of those games.

1092
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,880
And one year is not a trend anyway. But I'll

1093
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,039
be really curious to see how keep with buys do.

1094
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:12,079
But I don't think getting a buy in this system

1095
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,000
is the advantage it is in say the NFL, where

1096
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:17,239
you will get one week off and it's a nice

1097
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,039
rest of recover time. This is a little bit it's

1098
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:23,039
hard to maintain your sharpness in your edge through three

1099
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:23,880
and a half weeks.

1100
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,239
Speaker 1: Right the NFL system, you're talking about a week off

1101
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,039
and you're getting a home game. Compared to this, if

1102
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:33,159
three weeks and go to a neutral site and so

1103
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,000
much stuff that goes on, I think you make a

1104
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,679
great point there. I know you're high on Georgia. Up's

1105
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:41,679
looking at your projections. You have them as the top

1106
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:45,719
team entering the field, and people are talking about Gunner

1107
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,760
Stockton and the belief is, man, he's not good enough.

1108
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,079
He's not a guy that can carry this team. But

1109
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,840
I look at what Kirby Smart has done at Georgia

1110
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:01,119
and Jerry. The point I would make is, maybe Gunner's

1111
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,760
not going to be that great, but they've never really

1112
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,559
relied on quarterback play that much compared to some of

1113
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:10,559
these other teams with what they've done, They've never really

1114
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:14,000
needed an elite quarterback to win as much as they've done.

1115
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:16,920
Here is the quarterback situation that big of a deal

1116
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,039
for Georgia. Do you think Gunner Stockton is is good

1117
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:22,960
enough to get the job done? What do you think

1118
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,000
about what's going on there?

1119
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,079
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of an unfair judgment. I mean,

1120
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:29,360
we haven't seen enough of it. Yeah, you got thrown

1121
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,159
to the walls in the playoffs last year, and yeah

1122
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,679
it's I mean, that's a tough situation. But now we'll

1123
01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:38,800
have a full offseason, he'll be working with the team

1124
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,079
that he's going to be leading through the entire offseason.

1125
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,440
I don't think it's fair to judge him based on

1126
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,840
what we have seen on the field for him now,

1127
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:52,119
So I say, let's wait and see. It's funny because

1128
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:55,039
you know, we talked about all the experienced quarterbacks in

1129
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:57,159
the Big Twelve, when we talked about the top of

1130
01:00:57,239 --> 01:00:59,800
college football or what people perceive, we don't have a

1131
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,559
lot of experience up there. Arch Manning's got a couple

1132
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:05,639
of games, Stockton's got a couple of games. Uh, Drew

1133
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:09,519
Aller is the lone exception. Everybody else is almost brand

1134
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:15,000
new to the position. So yeah, you're talking about great

1135
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:19,320
teams that you know are gonna be depending on young quarterbacks,

1136
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,039
and you know, in some cases right off the back,

1137
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,679
I mean, you've got Arch Manning will be the experienced

1138
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,159
guy in the Texas Ohio State game where Julian's saying, we'll, we'll,

1139
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,440
we'll take the field for the first time as the

1140
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,679
starting quarterback at Ohio State. So you know, the top

1141
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,760
of college football it's good. What's it's gonna be interesting

1142
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,000
there is how do these all these new quarterbacks develop?

1143
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,920
And you know, because the margin for air is very small,

1144
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,880
you just you lose a couple of games you're definitely

1145
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,159
not getting goodbye. You may not even make the playoffs

1146
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,920
for some of these teams. So uh and you can

1147
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,159
certainly get momentum going the wrong way in a hurry,

1148
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,800
and especially in the SEC and the Big Ten, which

1149
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,960
are so competitive, especially at the top. So Georgia has

1150
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,039
a favorable schedule. That's why I picked them to win,

1151
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:08,599
because the talent schedule UH factor works out best for them.

1152
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:11,559
Texas may actually be the best team once we get

1153
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:16,199
into a playoff situation where it's mostly neutral sites. You know,

1154
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,559
then that's that the home field is no longer a factor,

1155
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,400
and that's maybe where Texas really gets to shine. But

1156
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,039
you know, Alabama's gonna be good as well. You know,

1157
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:28,320
the top of that league is is going to be

1158
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,639
really strong. I don't know if they're going to put

1159
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,840
four teams in the playoffs or not. I mean that

1160
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,159
remains to be seen, but it's gonna be a strong

1161
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,000
top of that league and with oh maybe five or

1162
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,119
six teams that could compete for spots in the college

1163
01:02:42,119 --> 01:02:43,039
football playoffs.

1164
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned Alabama, Let's let's talk about them for a second.

1165
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:50,519
Ty Simpson takes over as their starting quarterback, and I

1166
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:52,400
know that Kaitlyn de Bor got a lot of flak

1167
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,840
last year. And when you lost to Vandy in the

1168
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,480
fashion that they did, when they you know, got blown

1169
01:02:57,519 --> 01:02:59,920
out by Oklahoma there in November, it took them out

1170
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,840
of playoff. But I feel like Jerry had to remind

1171
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,360
people Kaylyndor is a very good coach and has been

1172
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,320
successful everywhere he's been. And even though they took their

1173
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,880
lumps last year, they still beat Georgia and had some

1174
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,239
big time wins. They weren't a bad team last year.

1175
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:19,199
I'm looking at Simpson and Milroe wasn't necessarily he was

1176
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:21,880
a good quarterback, but wasn't necessarily the right fit for

1177
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,800
that offense that Kaylyn Debor had. Now you get a

1178
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,039
guy and Simpson that's a better fit for that offense,

1179
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:32,039
and the players they bring back here, I think we'd

1180
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:34,639
be remiss as if we all of a sudden slept

1181
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:37,280
on Alabama here. They very well could win this whole league.

1182
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,519
Speaker 4: Yeah they could, They absolutely could. And yeah, look, Alabama's

1183
01:03:41,559 --> 01:03:44,760
got top door talent all over the field, and so

1184
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,960
they're gonna have a chance. And every time they take

1185
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,679
the field, they have a chance to win. Every time

1186
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:53,440
they take the field because they're that good. And you know,

1187
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:57,480
Alabama's coaching staff is still you know, was at least

1188
01:03:57,519 --> 01:04:00,039
last year, still you know, new to the gig and

1189
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:01,760
and you know, try and to adapt what they do

1190
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,480
to the talent that they already had a ton of talent.

1191
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:08,679
Albeit there were times where you know, there were fits

1192
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:11,039
and starts and we saw i mean the Oklahoma game,

1193
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,440
you know, should have kept them out of the playoffs.

1194
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,039
I mean, that's just it was one of those things

1195
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:19,440
where a complete note show in the middle of the season.

1196
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:25,760
So that kind of lack of really effort mental being

1197
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,480
locked in mentally, that can't happen in the SEC or

1198
01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:32,159
you or you will have a day like that. So

1199
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:34,559
this is a team that's got to be good, you know.

1200
01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:37,840
And Nick Saban was really good at having his teams

1201
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,199
focused and ready to go mentally and physically every week.

1202
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,599
And now this this team now and this coaching staff

1203
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,480
has to be able to make sure that these guys

1204
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,960
are locked in every time they take the field, because

1205
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,840
they cannot suffer any games like that Oklahoma game.

1206
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,719
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at your projections, Jerry, and if SEC teams,

1207
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:01,159
I believe you have three in in your par projections.

1208
01:05:01,199 --> 01:05:05,880
With Georgia, Texas and Alabama, who do you see is

1209
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,440
potentially having the best shot to crack them all of

1210
01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:11,679
being that fourth or maybe even a fifth team. Man,

1211
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:14,039
I know that there's a case to be made for

1212
01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:16,639
a number of teams, but they all seem close from

1213
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,719
the LSUS South Carolina's, Tennessee, Oklahoma's Whole Miss of the world.

1214
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,840
Who's kind of that next team to keep an eye on.

1215
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 4: I kind of like LSU with Grant and us Meyer

1216
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,840
quarterback quarterbacks. You hear me talk about it a lot

1217
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,719
because I think they're so important. You know, they're not

1218
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,119
just They're not just the leader of the offense. Oftentimes

1219
01:05:39,159 --> 01:05:42,199
they're the leader of the team, and so much of

1220
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:45,039
a game can hinge on whether or not they're on

1221
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:47,920
that day, because you know, if they turned the ball over,

1222
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,400
you put your defense in a hole. So I think

1223
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,039
that LSU was ready to take a step forward and

1224
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:58,000
you didn't. It's North Carolina, it really had a nice

1225
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:00,480
run at the end of last year, could also be

1226
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:03,519
poised to make a step up. And I wouldn't rule

1227
01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:07,400
out Ole Miss as a team that can get into

1228
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:12,000
playoff contention as the season wears on. You know, I've

1229
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:14,360
got three. I wouldn't be surprised to see four SEC

1230
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:19,199
teams in the playoffs as the season rolls on. It

1231
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,400
depends on what happened to some of these other leagues

1232
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,119
and how much beating each are up they do. But

1233
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:27,239
the the SEC is going to be well represented in

1234
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,320
the college football Playoff as it usually is, and will

1235
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,079
have at least one team that everybody considers to be

1236
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:33,800
a favorite.

1237
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,639
Speaker 1: So I mentioned some of your projections, Jerry, tell tell

1238
01:06:37,679 --> 01:06:40,159
me about the rest of your projections of how you

1239
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:42,360
see the College FOOTBA Playoff playing out here.

1240
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I had Georgia number one. I also have

1241
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:50,239
Notre Dame number two, and I'm projecting them to go undefeated.

1242
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,840
And for me, that's as much a function of their schedule.

1243
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,760
They don't really have, you know, the big time opponent,

1244
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,199
you know, the I catching opponent that that they normally

1245
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,039
have on their schedule, where they'll have like two or

1246
01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:06,159
three of them. But some of their the teams that

1247
01:07:06,199 --> 01:07:08,480
they're playing are maybe not going to be at their

1248
01:07:08,519 --> 01:07:11,440
best this year, like the USC game. You know, USC

1249
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:14,599
is at Notre Dame this year, and you know, USC

1250
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:18,280
is not the USC of the past. They're not horrible.

1251
01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:23,079
But you know, this Notre Dame team is really I

1252
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:26,880
think poised to have a big year, but they don't

1253
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,800
have much of a margin for er because their strength

1254
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,760
of schedule won't be great. But if they get to

1255
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,679
twelve and like eleven and one, they're probably still going

1256
01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:35,320
to make the playoffs, but they may not get a buy.

1257
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:39,079
And then of course this year they can be number

1258
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:43,719
two because of the new bracketing rules where the top

1259
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,920
four teams get the get the buys instead of the

1260
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,039
top four conference champions, which Notre Dame cannot be so,

1261
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:55,840
and I think the ACC portion of their schedule generally

1262
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,480
drags them down. They used to have, you know, when

1263
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,400
they've made their own schedule, you know, they always would

1264
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,760
have four or five marquee opponents on the schedule. But

1265
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,880
when you're playing half your games almost against ACC teams,

1266
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,840
if you're not getting Clemson, that's the only reliably good

1267
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,880
team in the league right now. So others kind of

1268
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,000
come and go have a year here and a year there,

1269
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:21,479
as if you had a year last year. But Clemson's

1270
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,239
the only reliably good program in that league. If they're

1271
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:28,239
not on the schedule, you're probably you know, hurting your

1272
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,680
overall strength of schedule, which means our margin for air

1273
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:34,159
is smaller. Also, they can't win a conference so to

1274
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:38,800
automatically qualify, so it's harder. The standard is harder for

1275
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,680
Notre Dame in part because of just the way things are.

1276
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,399
And then I've got the top two teams in Big Ten,

1277
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,199
Ohio State and Penn State boy Ohio State. In a

1278
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:50,880
nice schedule, they get not only Texas at home, but

1279
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,520
Penn State at home. And I have Penn State as

1280
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,560
a conference champion, losing at Ohio State and winning the

1281
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:01,199
rematch on a neutral field. And that's how those two

1282
01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:03,800
teams could get there. In that scenario, one wins the

1283
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,520
regular season game and the other wins championship. But yeah,

1284
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,439
so the Big Ten, Oregon's in there as well. The

1285
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,920
SEC has got three teams in there, a couple from

1286
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,399
the Big twelve, so the major conferences are well represented.

1287
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,560
And of course Boise State from the Mountain West as

1288
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,680
the loan group of five team. It'll be interesting to see,

1289
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,439
you know, now that Ashton Genti's in the NFL, you know,

1290
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,239
can they continue this role as a program. They have

1291
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:34,039
been very successful, you know, consistently through coaching changes, and

1292
01:09:34,079 --> 01:09:36,920
talent changes, and if it's not them, then it might

1293
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,720
open the door for somebody like maybe Memphis or someone

1294
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,880
from the American Conference to take that spot.

1295
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a great point.

1296
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: Jerry.

1297
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,239
Speaker 1: A couple more thanks before we wrap up here. With

1298
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:49,720
that said, So you got your projections out there. Are

1299
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,119
you ready to make a championship pick yet? Are you're

1300
01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:53,319
still holding out on that.

1301
01:09:55,039 --> 01:09:57,520
Speaker 4: I'd like to see your teams play a couple of

1302
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,640
games first, but I you know, I just we talked

1303
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,279
about it a little bit. In this bracket, I have

1304
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,279
Texas is the seventh seed. If they're the best team

1305
01:10:06,319 --> 01:10:09,880
in the country, I guess I would pick them, you know,

1306
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:13,159
because I think that that's a good place in this

1307
01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:14,479
bracket to start from.

1308
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, very well, could be the case. Start with a

1309
01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:21,319
home game and then go from there throughout the rest

1310
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:24,920
of the playoffs. Jerry, as somebody that studies the analytics

1311
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,840
and has looked at this system in about every way possible.

1312
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,880
I know that there's a ton of discussions about this

1313
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,359
format and where should we go from here. We've only

1314
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:38,560
seen the twelve team playoff one time and we're already

1315
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,760
talking about changing it and we haven't even seen the

1316
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,720
twelve team format with the top four seeds getting the

1317
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,119
automatic buys. Now, in your opinion, what do you think

1318
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:51,439
of where we're at right now and where should we

1319
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,359
go from here when it comes to this playoff structure.

1320
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I like this structure. If you expand to sixteen,

1321
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:03,279
you probably do away with the buys, so you have

1322
01:11:03,319 --> 01:11:07,680
a regular sixteen team, four round tournament. It's still a

1323
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,039
four round tournament now, so you're not expanding. You don't

1324
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:12,920
need more date on the calendar to make that happen.

1325
01:11:13,359 --> 01:11:14,880
Or you can do with the Big ten wants to

1326
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,560
do and invite all one hundred and thirty sixteens to

1327
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,760
the playoff, you know, and play it all the way

1328
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,159
through March Madness in March and April. But now it's

1329
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,840
the twenty eighteen proposal is kind of ridiculous. I don't

1330
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,039
think anything like that's going to happen, but I could,

1331
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:34,800
I could see sixteen. It's hard to go beyond sixteen

1332
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,640
and without getting deeper into the calendar and you know,

1333
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,439
doing a way maybe with conference championship games, which none

1334
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,960
of these conferences want to do. So I think sixteen

1335
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:49,399
is a realistic maximum for what I would call the

1336
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:54,760
foreseeable future, which in college sports it's not very far along, right.

1337
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to preserve the value of the

1338
01:11:57,039 --> 01:12:00,399
regular season. It's the best regular season in all the sports.

1339
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,800
And uh to me that that's the number one priority here.

1340
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,000
But then, you know, I hear all this talk about

1341
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:08,880
the auto bids and you know, the Big ten wants

1342
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,000
you know, you know, four automatic bids in a twelve

1343
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:15,800
team format, in a sixteen team format, and and all

1344
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,159
of this, and you know, the SEC thought about it,

1345
01:12:18,199 --> 01:12:20,319
but now they're you know, favoring the five to one

1346
01:12:20,399 --> 01:12:23,680
model after listening to their coaches and such, and and

1347
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,680
I hear this, Jerry, about taking the uh you know,

1348
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,960
power out of the committee's hands. Here, what nobody wants

1349
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,039
to admit quiet part out loud is this sport has

1350
01:12:34,119 --> 01:12:37,880
been at its best when it's thrived off controversy and

1351
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,079
debate and having these discussions and maybe a team that

1352
01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:44,039
got left out that shouldn't have been. I have my

1353
01:12:44,119 --> 01:12:47,039
issues with the committee all the time, Jerry, but I

1354
01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:50,880
would be more in favor of going with these uh

1355
01:12:51,039 --> 01:12:54,159
you know, the these wild cards or these open spots

1356
01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:57,279
and and having that discussion rather than diluting the regular

1357
01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:00,479
season and and giving gifts to the Big ten sec

1358
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:01,840
What what say you?

1359
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a Big ten guy and I'm offended

1360
01:13:06,119 --> 01:13:08,079
that we have a commissioner who thinks we have to

1361
01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:10,479
have four automatic qualifiers that we can't just go out

1362
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,680
and earn them. Yeah, you know that's that's so that

1363
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,720
that kind of that kind of concept bugs me. I

1364
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,960
want to go compete and earn what I get and

1365
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,399
earning it in the boardroom is not the way you

1366
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,720
want to do it. You want to earn it on

1367
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,880
the field with your performance. And the Big ten should

1368
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,159
be good enough most years to get four teams into

1369
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:32,960
a sixteen team playoff. It doesn't need to be a gift.

1370
01:13:33,399 --> 01:13:36,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent, Jerry. Before we

1371
01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:38,960
go plug away where people can find you and see

1372
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,319
all the great work you're doing.

1373
01:13:40,359 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, it's Palm brackets dot com. The football portion

1374
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,239
of my site is up now. I'm still working on

1375
01:13:46,319 --> 01:13:49,439
the basketball part. Of course, basketball doesn't start till November.

1376
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,640
It will be up in plenty of time for that, uh.

1377
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,000
But the football portion of the site is up now.

1378
01:13:54,319 --> 01:13:56,319
I'll be writing a little bit today about the new

1379
01:13:56,319 --> 01:14:00,439
strength of schedule stuff, The committee talked about yesterday, and

1380
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,840
then you know, week zero into week one. I'll be

1381
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,680
writing at least once a week on the site and

1382
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,720
both projections every week except for after week zero, so

1383
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,960
so we'll uh, it'll be busy there on during football season.

1384
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: Can't wait, Jerry, appreciate the time. We'll talk in down

1385
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,640
the line, and thanks for joining us

1386
01:14:18,039 --> 01:14:19,039
Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me on