WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:05.839 Not five miles an hour riding too his head. He 2 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:10.960 hopping down first with the mount Bonius face, and on 3 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:15.439 the very next pitch he up and stole second phase 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:26.239 with gradest be he wasn't born, he had the yes 5 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:28.960 uniforn Well. 6 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:33.119 Welcome to episode forty one of the Prospect B Sides Podcast, 7 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:36.439 the season finale. I am Nate Handy, joining me as 8 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:40.600 always the late rookie because he was late tonight, NAT's man, 9 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:41.079 how are you? 10 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:45.759 I am fantastic? I can't wait to review my awesome 11 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.359 B Siders. You know, we've touched on a lot of 12 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:51.240 these guys throughout the year, but it's fun to look 13 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.920 them all on one leaderboard and see the progress throughout 14 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:58.200 the year. And while there are definitely some flops, mostly 15 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:02.200 on Nate's side, Miner really good. But it's fun to 16 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.319 just review. And I'm pumped to do a recap episode 17 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:07.000 with you, buddy. How are you this fine Monday? 18 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.120 Good man? The Rockets just won walk off. They gotta 19 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:12.640 they gotta win five of their last eleven to not 20 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:16.120 lose one hundred. Feeling pretty optimistic about them coming down 21 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.319 the stretch here, Matt, their biggest bugaboo is relief pitching, 22 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.640 and I'm sure no one's paying attention but their young 23 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:25.439 bullpen arms. This last month, the guys who have come 24 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:28.680 up have been pretty good, and you know, relief pitching 25 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:31.280 is what it is, but at least it's some hope, Matt. 26 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.280 Yeah, and even I saw Kimley has been pretty good 27 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.159 at play yeah, close lockdown some games. I think he 28 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.319 want to match up against me the other day, and 29 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:42.480 so I have hate in my heart for him. 30 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:46.239 But you know, Elverson's pumping a hundred and putting it 31 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.200 on the black, and Ve's been good, and Hill's getting 32 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:54.159 his run, Like, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how 33 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:57.319 that looks next year. This episode, Matt, we're gonna review 34 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.000 our B siders from from the year. I was thinking 35 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.280 maybe we'll talk a little bit about I don't know, 36 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:05.640 lessons learned from the season, things of that nature. Put 37 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:10.879 a bow on twenty twenty four, and continue to mud 38 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:15.000 along and get ready for our off season selection shows. 39 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:16.000 Does that sound good to you? 40 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:16.599 Yeah? 41 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:21.719 It does imply that we're capable of learning and reflecting, 42 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:26.240 And as I have continued to beat the drum, we're 43 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.599 not really about that here. 44 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.400 At least on this side of the B side. 45 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:34.840 Podcasting table. I'm just about of hyping my calls that 46 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.840 were good, ignoring my calls that were bad, of which 47 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.280 there were none, let me remind you and yeah, yeah, 48 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:43.719 So I don't know if I need. 49 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:44.319 To learn anything. 50 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.759 I'm pretty good at this, Saint let me tell you. 51 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:50.560 Well, we'll talk about that a little bit. But Matt, 52 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.439 last episode, that was pretty fun. It's been a minute 53 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:57.719 I think since we recorded. Having Connor on was nice 54 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.000 and I wanted it was really hard for me to 55 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:03.680 not talk about and ask more about calling games. I 56 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:07.639 feel like if he comes back on, I might just 57 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:11.400 ask him a bazillion questions about what it's like calling games. 58 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.080 Should he's good at it. He thinks about it a lot. 59 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:16.719 And that's actually something that we've talked about over the 60 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:19.759 years with as he took over and started putting his 61 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:24.840 stamp on pitching staffs. One thing that I think that 62 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:27.319 I was a little ahead of the kind of major 63 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.400 league game on just from my own experience, was that 64 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.159 the baseline for pitchers should be that you throw each 65 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.120 of your pitches equally. So if you're a three pitch pitcher, 66 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:39.879 you should throw each of them about thirty three percent 67 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:40.400 of the time. 68 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:41.360 And then you. 69 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:44.800 Ratchet up and down based on kind of how good 70 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:48.199 each of those pitches are. And that's I think something 71 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.680 that he has incorporated into his pitch mix calling for 72 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.240 his pitchers. That's actually something they developed they work on 73 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:59.520 in the fall, is each pitch gets equal treatment until 74 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:02.400 they prove that one is better than the other, or 75 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:05.400 that they can't command one, or that one is actually 76 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.240 really a terrible pitch. And it gets guys comfortable throwing 77 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.400 pitches in any count in really mixing things up. And 78 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.599 I think that it's a way that hitters still are 79 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.600 on the back foot because still from a young age, 80 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.839 everyone's taught to hit the fastball. I know that in 81 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.680 my career I was way better at hitting the fastball. 82 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:29.079 In my four years in college three years in college 83 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.279 summer ball, I only ever hit home runs against a fastball, 84 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:36.759 and yet people still kept throwing me fastballs. And I 85 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.920 could hit the other pitches for singles and doubles, but 86 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:43.399 really getting into one. For some reason about my swinging 87 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.279 like fastballs was the only thing that could do it, 88 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.879 and people just still kept throwing them to me. But 89 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:49.959 I think I would have been way worse if they 90 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:54.040 mixed more. I kind of think that's true of most hitters, 91 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.319 and that pitchers still throw fastballs too much. You should 92 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.920 mix more. So that's something that he's incorporated into his 93 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.600 pitch calling. I take some small amount of credit. Most 94 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:06.040 of it is his own intuition and scouting reports and stuff, 95 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:08.439 but yeah, that is that's one piece about the pitch 96 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.000 calling game that I know that he has done quite 97 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:12.120 a bit more of of late. 98 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:16.000 Nice. Well, that seems prudent to me, starting off throwing 99 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:19.519 everything equally and going from there. How have your league's gone? 100 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.360 How is your year as a whole as a fantasy player. 101 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:28.800 It's not over, but it is looking like I'd say 102 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:33.560 a B minus here for me, I'm in one final, 103 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:40.000 three semi finals, and got bounced in playoffs in four 104 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:45.120 other leagues. So like solid, I'd say, if I win 105 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.160 this thirty team or that I've talked a fair amount, 106 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:52.399 that's my favorite league. It's my thirty team daily points league. 107 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.800 If I win that one, it would make up for 108 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.560 some of the other sort of middling outcomes that I 109 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.959 had still in the mix to bring that grade up 110 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.839 a bit. But I'm not sure I'm sitting well in 111 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.759 two of the other semi finals, and I'd say one 112 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:08.680 of the finals I have a decent shot in. That's 113 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:11.199 a points league that I play with in a couple 114 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:13.199 of the guys from the Dynasty dugout I got to 115 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.360 I have a pretty good shot in that final too. 116 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.720 So in Dynasty, I won no championships this season, which 117 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:23.399 is unfortunate, but money wise, one more money than I 118 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:27.079 paid to play. So hey, that's good in that sense. 119 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:29.720 I guess that's a win. But oh, in all, feeling good, 120 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:33.319 not great about my Dynasty performance this season. But I 121 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.120 wanted to ask you, Matt, a common theme across my 122 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:39.319 leagues that I found this year was relief pitching, not 123 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:43.879 doing well as a whole, identifying guys making trades to 124 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.079 try to help me in those categories. And I feel like, 125 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:50.560 especially in like thirty teamers or maybe only leagues, you know, 126 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:52.519 the best teams will have a good lineup, they'll have 127 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:54.319 good pitching, and like, the way you can get an 128 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.319 edge or separate yourself is with your relief pitching. I think, 129 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:59.879 And the sort of these teams that I Dynasty teams, 130 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.399 they have of all kind of been built up. You know, 131 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.279 I didn't like take over a great team or draft 132 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:08.600 a great team out the gates. So I've been building 133 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.800 these teams up over the years with the idea that, hey, 134 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.560 when I get there, when I need to, I will 135 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.759 just trade for some relief pitching. And one of those 136 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:19.800 trades I made with you this year, and I paid 137 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.279 way too much. And I know relief pitching is so volatile, 138 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.920 But admittedly I don't spend a lot of time prospecting 139 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.519 relief pitching. You did this year. You picked out some names, 140 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.600 some good ones debuted this year. They probably haven't become 141 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.600 fantasy winners yet anyways. But I don't know, man, you 142 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.560 got any advice for someone like me trying to be 143 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.519 better at relief pitching in dynasty leagues. 144 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:46.439 I think there's a couple of things that I look to. 145 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:53.079 One is small sample changes happen really fast with relievers. 146 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.879 Yeah, I send you a gazillion great pitching starting pitching 147 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.040 prospects for Craig fucking Kim. 148 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:04.279 Right, Well, that's not the kind of guy that I'm 149 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:08.600 talking about. Like Kimberl is a different type of relief 150 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.600 asset in it. At the time, he was fairly well 151 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.240 locked in as a situational He was valuable because of 152 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.639 the situation that he was in, and he had been 153 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.879 fine as a pitcher, you know what I mean up to. 154 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.680 The point that I traded you for him. He was 155 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:27.319 like the top scoring relief pitcher in our league at 156 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:28.439 that juncture, or. 157 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:32.159 Right right, he was, but again that was because he 158 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:35.799 was put in situations right he was the locked in 159 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:38.960 closer for the team with the most wins in baseball, 160 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.679 so he had the most opportunities to get saves, and 161 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.480 often they were like three run leads, which is a 162 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:47.360 super easy thing to do, so you don't have to 163 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:50.039 pitch that well to convert that kind of a save. 164 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.639 And he was doing okay, but if you looked at 165 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.600 his K minus BB, if you looked at some of 166 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.759 the other situational things like his walk rate had ticked up, 167 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:03.279 he was getting fewer with there was signs that all 168 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.080 was not well, and it kind of he wasn't earning 169 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:07.120 all of those points. 170 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.279 So now, are you on Are you on the air, 171 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:13.679 so to speak, right now, admitting that you sold me 172 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.759 a lemon? That's the kind of trade friend you are. 173 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:20.919 It's it's I'm not admitting that I sold you the 174 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:25.360 second best reliever in that league. What I'm saying is 175 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:29.679 that you've got to understand why he was so valuable, 176 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:32.840 and a lot of the reliever game is trying to 177 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:37.360 find either the guys that really are locked into their position, 178 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.360 and Kimberle has been that kind of a guy. 179 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:40.960 Like I kind of expected him. 180 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.080 To just keep holding the closer role even if he 181 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.840 wasn't great, but because he was going to get opportunities 182 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.600 he had quote unquote, he's a Hall of Fame closer. 183 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.039 He's done it for a ton of teams and for 184 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.159 so many years now, and then he would just keep 185 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:57.360 racking up mediocre innings, but he was going to keep 186 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.600 getting saves, and our league rewards that that's value, right, 187 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.080 So that is a kind of value that often you 188 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.200 can get for relatively, you know, not inexpensive, but it's 189 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.039 worth paying that price if you're a contending team. I 190 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.360 did the same in our league the show. I bought 191 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.519 a few relievers because I was a playoff team and 192 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.600 I was like, you know, my relievers for most of 193 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:20.240 the year were kind of shitty, and so I bought 194 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.799 a couple that were They weren't kind of kimberrel esk 195 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.759 in terms of their role, but they were decent back 196 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:28.440 end relievers that were going to get me more points 197 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.600 than the guys that I had. That's the other kind 198 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:32.840 of guy. So there's the guys that like are valuable, 199 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.000 even if they themselves aren't that good of a reliever, 200 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:40.399 they are kind of locked into their role and they're 201 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.919 going to give you value there. I mean a role 202 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.480 as Chapman has been this in the last couple of years. 203 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.679 He's having a bit of a resurgence this year, but 204 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.720 I'd say the two years before that his stuff was down. 205 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.879 He wasn't getting the whiffs, he was walking guys, but 206 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:54.799 people were running him out in the ninth in and 207 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.240 that was valuable, and you wanted that on your Dynasty team, 208 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:00.720 especially as a competitor. You didn't really want to like 209 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.200 carry that all year, but coming up to the end 210 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.159 of the season, like, let's roll with our best guys 211 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:09.519 and paying a slight premium for those things makes sense. 212 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.679 It's also one of the reasons why when I talk 213 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.559 to guys that are trying to rebuild, I tell them 214 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:18.000 don't ignore closers or set up guys that might get it, 215 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:21.639 because those turn into assets that like in that in 216 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.480 the WGM League where we made that trade. My team 217 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.360 fell apart because of some big injuries early on, and 218 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:28.360 who did I try. 219 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.559 And go and get eighth inning guys, Guys that. 220 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.399 Were I knew that those were going to be some 221 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.919 of my best trade value assets at the deadline because 222 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:37.240 my team wasn't going to need them. 223 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:39.000 I'm glad you brought that up because I want I 224 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:40.919 wanted to note. I wanted to say, Man, if you're 225 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:44.399 a rebuilding team, at least in my experience across my 226 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.879 five dynasty leagues, to me, that would be the most 227 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.240 that seems like the most profitable demographic or place to go, 228 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.120 gobble up that nevers man. And then when the contending 229 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.639 teams get to the trade deadline, at least if they're 230 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.480 like us, I kind of pay you wait too much 231 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:00.840 for them? 232 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.960 Yeah, that that an injured starter. So the other one 233 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.159 that you can often buy for cheap, hold on your roster, 234 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.399 on your bench because you don't need them for the points. 235 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:11.360 And then when they come back healthy, you try and. 236 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.120 Screw the maybe bat in the lowers. Yep, housing those 237 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:17.159 guys get that, I say, yep. 238 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:22.000 I'm normally pretty skeptical of small sample size performances like that. 239 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.279 It shouldn't change your underlying opinion of folks too much. 240 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:29.679 I think relievers might be where I change my mind there, 241 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:33.799 and I do pay some closer attention, especially kind of 242 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.240 early in the season, middle of the season to rolling, 243 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:41.159 you know, fourteen game k minus bbs, because managers front 244 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.480 offices even they make the same kind of fallacies that 245 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.519 we do, and that they like the hot hand, they 246 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:51.960 like the performance of the guy, and sometimes that means 247 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:55.279 a real uptick in talent level or talent level for 248 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:58.759 that season. I think like Tyler Matsek in twenty twenty 249 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.720 one just all of a sudden reverted back to elite 250 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:04.639 reliever ways, even though he'd been hurt or bad for 251 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.759 like the previous five years before that. But pretty quickly 252 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:10.320 he was like running thirty five percent strikeout rates and 253 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.559 wasn't walking to anybody, and you're like, oh, this is 254 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:14.960 an elite back end reliever, and he helped win the 255 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.840 Braves of World Series. Those kind of guys, in small samples, 256 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.399 they earned the trust of their manager to be in 257 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.799 those hold situations, those late in inning situations, and then 258 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.360 maybe set up men to closer promotions down the line. 259 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.919 And so trying to find a couple of those guys 260 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.960 early on that are free, like they're going to be free, 261 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.360 just like the Cade Smiths of the world. Like he 262 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:38.600 was one that popped out of nowhere, wasn't on any 263 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:40.720 dynasty list, nobody was talking about him. 264 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.879 And Miah and Jeremiah Strada another one. 265 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.720 Like there's a ton of these guys every year that 266 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.720 come out of nowhere and then are useful. But that 267 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:51.279 also changes over time. 268 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.279 Yeah. Sorry, that's a point that I think I may 269 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.480 have failed, so to speak, or could be much better 270 00:13:57.519 --> 00:13:59.759 at as being on top, you know, first of the draw, 271 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:04.279 getting Jeremiah Strata and those types. I need to pay 272 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:05.240 more attention to that. 273 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:07.519 Yeah, And it's a thing that's a little bit tricky 274 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.559 because these are super small samples where all of a 275 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.159 sudden it looks like, oh, a guy maybe found a 276 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:18.879 new gear and is the next James Krinchak who came 277 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:21.320 out of nowhere a couple of years ago, was striking 278 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.840 everybody out, was still walking people, but nobody could get 279 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:26.399 any hits off of him. And he was an elite 280 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.960 setup guy for like a year and a half and 281 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:32.240 he's been really bad since then, and isn't really rosterble 282 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:33.320 in Dynasty anymore. 283 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.120 I think I have him on one of my teams. 284 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.000 Like it's that kind of guy that can pop up 285 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.720 out of nowhere, be really useful for a year and 286 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.080 a half, and then kind of flame out and be 287 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:43.320 not very useful. 288 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:48.919 I also watching that guy Matt, like yeah, his anxiety 289 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.000 just like went through the TV screen and like got 290 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:52.679 inside of me. 291 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:54.159 Yeah. 292 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.720 Yeah. I feel that relievers are tricky, and your format 293 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:01.320 really matters a lot too in this league that I'm in, 294 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:04.799 the ALCSN that I mentioned just before or maybe before 295 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:08.799 we started recording, Like, I have four solid relievers, and 296 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.960 that's like the most you want in this format. But 297 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:15.000 what some of the other really good teams do is 298 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:18.320 they really rotate through They keep maybe one or two 299 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.080 of their reliever spots open, and they just stream relievers 300 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.679 to whoever might pop up that day, who might like 301 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.600 pitch that day. And I think that that's something that 302 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.519 I might have to do this week that I'm kind 303 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.080 of bummed about, because my relievers have been some of 304 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.440 the better relievers throughout the course of the year. But 305 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.639 it's really about the roster spot in this sprint to 306 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.279 the finish, where I've got Ryan Presley who's been seventh 307 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:43.039 or eighth innning guy for Houston and really effective last 308 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:45.879 few years. Jason Foley, who's a closer for Detroit and 309 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.000 has righted the ship after being a little shaky in 310 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.799 the middle of the year. David Robertson, who Loki is 311 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.759 one of the best relievers of all time and that's 312 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:56.399 not a hyperbole and is back to having a great 313 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.919 season with Texas, and then Kyle Finnegan, the Nats closer, 314 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:01.799 who all have been good throughout the year. 315 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.000 They've gotten me to this point. 316 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:07.559 But I'm probably being suboptimal and like clinging to my 317 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:09.519 pearls a little bit by keeping all four of them, 318 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:11.879 and I should probably cut one of them loose and 319 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.720 try and stream that spot because in that form, in 320 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:17.159 this format, that can get rewarded. So that's the other 321 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:20.039 part of always knowing your format and what's useful a 322 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.240 couple of formats that we play. You need eight relievers 323 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.519 to be a really good team to really eke out 324 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:28.080 the most points you can get every matchup. You need 325 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.360 to be able to mix and match to make sure 326 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.000 you've got a reliever who's hot and ready and likely 327 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.440 to go each of those days. And that sikes work 328 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:38.799 like that's a that's some deep diving to do. So, 329 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.600 long story, long way of saying, each league is a 330 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:47.039 little bit different. Some really reward the role, some really 331 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:51.240 reward the skill, and some just really reward availability, and 332 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.879 each of those things are a little bit different that 333 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:54.600 you're looking for. 334 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.519 Man, I think, you know what might be useful just 335 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:00.320 a relief pitching only podcast. 336 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.279 Should we convert that is really niche? 337 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.720 Should we convert to a relief pitching only podcast. 338 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.680 I know we already have only like ten subscribers. 339 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:11.640 I just don't know if that's. 340 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.680 Five of them will hang around maybe, I don't know. 341 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.240 I think another air that I made in one league, 342 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:21.640 in a Roto league that I've been horrible since I 343 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.200 joined took over a team is I had like I 344 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:26.079 was good like the first month of the season. So 345 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:28.079 I was like, all right, this is it, you know, 346 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.119 we finally made it, and I traded off some good 347 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:34.720 prospects whatever it was for basically a bullpen for a 348 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:37.319 whole bullpen, and then my team just immediately went to 349 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:39.759 shit and I'm in last place, and so it was 350 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.599 like getting a little too excited a little too early, 351 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:44.599 I think. So I'm going to try to be mindful 352 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:46.119 of that moving forward as well. 353 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.039 Yeah, I got to take the long view in the 354 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.319 rotor leagues for sure, And that's why I'm a big 355 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.640 fan of the spreadsheets for those leaks, just because we 356 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:55.880 can get caught up and like, oh, all our guys, 357 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.079 you're going to perform our projections. But that just is 358 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:02.200 never true. You gotta think people are going to revert 359 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.200 to the mean, and you want to take advantage of 360 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.759 the hot starts and bolster where your team is going 361 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:09.400 to be rather than where it is today. 362 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:13.279 Yeah, well, Matt, enough of this relief pitching mumbo jumbo. 363 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:18.920 Let's get into the good stuff here. Let's let's review 364 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:22.680 our B siding season. Let's do it well. I mean, 365 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:27.079 clearly I was superior, but I think you did pretty well, Matt. 366 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:28.240 I think you did pretty. 367 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:29.359 Hang On, you can't. 368 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.960 You can't just do that at the outset clearly superior, 369 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.039 like I crush you in this Well. 370 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.519 Hang on, hang on, Let's just back up here. Let's 371 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:44.279 maybe explain a little bit. If someone's listening, who wasn't 372 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:48.079 listening the year ago, which is probably anyone listening last October. 373 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:51.359 I think it was we started our B side selection process, 374 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.880 so to speak, reviewed a bunch of guys, watch guys 375 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.960 under the radar, rosterd and zero to two percent of 376 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:01.319 leagues at the time who we think might one one pitcher, 377 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:05.519 one hitter from every organization, someone we wanted to throw 378 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:08.880 out there that might gain popularity this the coming season. 379 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:12.400 And then we did a little competitive draft to start 380 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.319 things off. I think we each picked nine hitters. Then 381 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:17.160 we did a picture draft where we each picked five 382 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:20.480 guys out of our ultimate or whole group of selections. 383 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.480 And Matt, I gotta say, the draft we didn't do very. 384 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:25.720 Well, dude, No, we really didn't. 385 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:28.880 Like so you know, again, sometimes when you're when you're right, 386 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:30.720 you're wrong. Sometimes when you're wrong, you're right. I think 387 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.039 as a whole, our whole selections were pretty decent. I 388 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.960 think we had some bangers. I think we had some 389 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:38.839 guys that I'm still very much interested in, even though 390 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:41.400 the popularity might not be there yet. But our draft 391 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:43.359 really was kind of poop. 392 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:43.759 Yeah. 393 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:47.519 I mean, my hitters were pretty good, My pictures were awful. 394 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:52.400 Your hitters were terrible except for one, And. 395 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:54.920 My whole draft was pretty much terrible except for one. 396 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:57.480 My hat in the draft was Charles McAdoo. We went 397 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:00.160 up to ten percent and then nobody had drafted. 398 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.279 Which got a strong co sign for me. 399 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.480 By the way, true which I wanted to note. I 400 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:06.279 don't know if you saw on the list that I 401 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.119