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<v Speaker 1>This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>The show is sponsored by G three Aparo.

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<v Speaker 1>The views expressed in the following program are those of

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<v Speaker 1>the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of seven tenor

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<v Speaker 1>or iHeartMedia. Who is Mark Webber. He's a self made

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<v Speaker 1>business executive here to help you find your success from

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<v Speaker 1>the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>His global success story in the luxury world of fashion

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<v Speaker 1>is inspirational. He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark

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<v Speaker 1>is classic proof that the American dream is alive. And well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's your host of always in Fashion, Mark Weber.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Weber. It is Mother's Day weekend and thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>my producer Peter Aolano, we decided to do a Mother's

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<v Speaker 2>Day show. Now, I should start right from the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a mama's boy. I just knew it. My

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<v Speaker 2>mother loved me. I could tell every time she looked

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<v Speaker 2>in me, every time we talked. It was special. My

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<v Speaker 2>mother loved me. She was firm, she was a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>She was my mother and it meant a lot. She

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<v Speaker 2>was a bookkeeper. My mother understood numbers, she understood discipline

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<v Speaker 2>and make sure in her own way. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>recall her ever telling me what to do. I always

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<v Speaker 2>knew what to do. There was no question what the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing was. She was a mother. She was stucking

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<v Speaker 2>out for me. School never a question. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>be in school, I had to be on time, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it had to do, I was going to school. My

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<v Speaker 2>mother made it clear, more so than my dad. My

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<v Speaker 2>mother made it clear, I'm going to college. Whether I

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<v Speaker 2>liked it or not, I didn't know. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid growing up in the city projects. I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea what to do with my life. But

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<v Speaker 2>I know I was going to college. I also knew

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<v Speaker 2>that alcohol was not a part of my life. Noah, drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>It was made clear. The basics were what we were

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<v Speaker 2>all about. My mother always said I could work, but

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<v Speaker 2>she made it clear that the money you earned from

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<v Speaker 2>working is for you, not for me. You need to work.

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<v Speaker 2>And perhaps the best story I could tell about my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and my dad, but pretty much my mother the bookkeeper,

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<v Speaker 2>had to do with purchasing a car. I wanted my

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<v Speaker 2>own car. I was young. Now I'm in college. I

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<v Speaker 2>needed to get around. I wanted to meet girls. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted a cool car and I wanted to get a car.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents made it clear that they needed their car

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<v Speaker 2>and that they couldn't afford to buy me a car.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I wanted to buy a car, they were

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<v Speaker 2>willing to lend me money as long as I agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to pay the money back and installments every week. And

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<v Speaker 2>as luck would have it, I turned out and I

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<v Speaker 2>bought a car. At that time. It was not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money today, but it was enough that every week,

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty four weeks, I had to give my parents

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars. My mom did a chart, a bookkeeping shot,

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<v Speaker 2>and she put it in front of me, listed all

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four months, and each month I made a payment

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<v Speaker 2>that she deducted the one hundred dollars from that payment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I learned the value of money, and I learned

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<v Speaker 2>how important was to settle your debts. More importantly, it

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<v Speaker 2>drove me crazy that I owed money. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling of owing money. I didn't like the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that every week I had to go to work, if

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<v Speaker 2>nothing else, to pay off a loan. To this day,

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<v Speaker 2>all these years later, I am debt free. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in paying off everything, house cards, whatever it is, I

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<v Speaker 2>do not have debt. I would mention credit cards because

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<v Speaker 2>I think anybody who takes a loan on a credit

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<v Speaker 2>card is insane. Somebody mentioned the interest is thirty six percent.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a credit card, you pay it off every month.

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<v Speaker 2>It is insane to have credit card debt. And I

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<v Speaker 2>learned this from my parents. But as time went on,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to admit, for some reason, even though I

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<v Speaker 2>had great parents, even though I was a mama's boy

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<v Speaker 2>and I always loved my Mohami should always talk to

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<v Speaker 2>me and always make sure I was okay, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have many questions. I seem to have figured out most

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<v Speaker 2>things in my life on my own until I met Susie,

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<v Speaker 2>the girl who became my wife. Mommy, Susie Jesse's mother, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 2>my lawyer, my co host, and my son Jesse. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Mother's Day Weekend. You were always a mama's boy. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>it was always very clear to me that you love

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<v Speaker 2>mommy more than me. I love both of you equally, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Mama's boy a thousand percent, one thousand percent, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was Mommy's little baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Look for me.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a tough holiday. It's tough to be thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about it. Mommy passed away a few years ago. Mommy

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<v Speaker 3>was the best. She was absolutely everything to me. She

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<v Speaker 3>was always always there for me and Jared talk to me,

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<v Speaker 3>patient with me, caring, sweet, You know what the number

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<v Speaker 3>one life lesson she always had for me when in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of becoming a parent, she said, talk to your children.

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<v Speaker 3>Always know that they can come to you to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about whatever's bothering them. And I did about everything. And

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<v Speaker 3>she always had this way of making me feel safe,

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<v Speaker 3>feeling special. She had a way of literally turning my

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<v Speaker 3>day upside down always.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you know this.

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<v Speaker 3>She and I never ever, ever, ever once got into

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<v Speaker 3>a fight ever ever. And I think about her every day.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a day that goes by when I don't think, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>what would have been like to have her here for

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<v Speaker 3>this moment or for that, or what she would say

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<v Speaker 3>about this or that I still need her advice. Just

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<v Speaker 3>an incredibly special person And I like to think about

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<v Speaker 3>her a lot, not just every day, but particularly on

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<v Speaker 3>Mother's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember you and Jared coming to me after

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy passed away, and we were talking about it and

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<v Speaker 2>coming to grips with it, where both of you have

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<v Speaker 2>told me daddy. You're a pretty good tough love guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but you also now have to become the sweet one.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to fill in for mommy. I wasn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure how to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, with all due respect, I mean your incredible father

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<v Speaker 3>that I don't think you ever figured that one out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't blame you. It's a very it's tough,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a tough role to fill, and you're always you're

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<v Speaker 3>always there for us. But it's just it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just different. It's the truth. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>else to say it. Well, the Weber boys were always

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<v Speaker 2>Mamma's boys, and that's just the way it is. Because

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy was so special. You talk about mothers so special.

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy Susy was the architect of our family. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how Look, we both got married. I was married

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<v Speaker 2>by the time I was twenty four. She was younger

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<v Speaker 2>than me, and you know, we're babies, really and you

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<v Speaker 2>think about that today. I don't know people get married

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<v Speaker 2>that young. But what did we know? I knew nothing. Me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like a guy that fell out of a tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew as how to smile and how to convince

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy to go out with me and date me and

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<v Speaker 2>eventually married. But Mommy was the architect of our family.

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<v Speaker 2>And it all became clear to me when we first

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<v Speaker 2>got it going out, because she respected her parents in

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<v Speaker 2>a way I had never seen before on anyone, let

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<v Speaker 2>alone a girl you go out with. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>could have said she loved to parents, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>love our parents, or were supposed to. But she was different.

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<v Speaker 2>When her parents talk, she was actually listening. And no,

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy was beautiful, she carried herself with grace. But that

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<v Speaker 2>respect she had for her parents is what changed my

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<v Speaker 2>feelings towards her. It's something I never came to grips

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<v Speaker 2>with and I never saw someone like that. And there

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<v Speaker 2>was no hiding anything from her parents. She had no secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>When her parents talked, she listened. My favorite story, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the great stories of respect. I hadn't met her parents

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<v Speaker 2>for the first month, and after a month we were

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy and I were like words and music. We were

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<v Speaker 2>really connected, and she said it's time to meet my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, really, She says, yeah, it's time to meet

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<v Speaker 2>my parents. Do I have to? And she stopped and

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<v Speaker 2>he looked at me, so are you serious? Of course

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<v Speaker 2>you have to meet my parents. I'm going out with

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<v Speaker 2>you either like me, you don't. You want to go

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<v Speaker 2>out with me, you don't, but you have to meet

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<v Speaker 2>my parents. I went to meet the parents, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was funny because in those days I was known as

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<v Speaker 2>the prints of the Projects. I look cool. I behaved

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<v Speaker 2>like a cool guy, except I made my mistakes. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I had the most beautiful European brogue shoes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind with the perforated fronts and laces. The only

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<v Speaker 2>problem with and they were orange, so they looked great

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<v Speaker 2>with tan pants and they look very special. White v

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<v Speaker 2>Nex sweater, white well light blue shirt under the v

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<v Speaker 2>Nex sweat. I show up for the parents house. I

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<v Speaker 2>sit down and you know, talking to the father, and

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<v Speaker 2>I put my cross my legs and put my foot up,

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<v Speaker 2>and none be knownst to me. I had a hole

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<v Speaker 2>in the bottom of my souls. I couldn't afford to

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<v Speaker 2>replace them, or I didn't think I needed to, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was kept a piece of cardboard there so that

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't bet step on the floor and get nail

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<v Speaker 2>on my foot. That would help. But I put my

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<v Speaker 2>foot up and the cardboard had moved, and my father

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<v Speaker 2>in law was looking at the bottom of my foot

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<v Speaker 2>through my shoes, and I found out that about later.

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<v Speaker 2>The point being we went out, I met the parents,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was very polite. They seemed to like me.

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<v Speaker 2>And when Mommy and I, Susie and I are getting

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<v Speaker 2>to the front door, they walk us out of our

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<v Speaker 2>house and the father says to me, Joe, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark brings Susie back by eleven o'clock. I looked at sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm laughing to myself. Eleven o'clock with this guy nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm opening the door. We walk out and I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, next to Susie and I lean over and

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<v Speaker 2>it's say, eleven o'clock. What are your father kidding? When

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<v Speaker 2>I come back at eleven o'clock, so I was walking

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<v Speaker 2>down the road, you know. I walked down the stairs

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<v Speaker 2>of the house to the car and I looked to

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<v Speaker 2>opened the door for Sissy and she's not there. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what happened. Where is she? I turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and she's still by the door in the front of

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<v Speaker 2>her house. I said, what's going on? So I had

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<v Speaker 2>to walk back to the front of the house. She's

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<v Speaker 2>standing on the doorway and she said to me, if

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<v Speaker 2>my father says, I'm coming back at eleven o'clock. You're

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<v Speaker 2>bringing me back at eleven o'clock. And it was then

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<v Speaker 2>and there that I realized she was special, a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who respect her family, would respect anything, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>the architect of everything we did. She brought our family together.

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<v Speaker 2>She knew what to do. I didn't when we would

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<v Speaker 2>have kids. Her decision, how many kids we would have,

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<v Speaker 2>her decision, how would we behave, how we behave as

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<v Speaker 2>a family, her decisions. She clearly taught me what mattered

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<v Speaker 2>in life, what we should care about, how to be

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<v Speaker 2>a father. I'll never forget. I was a successful guy

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<v Speaker 2>young and you guys, Jesse, you and your brother were

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<v Speaker 2>having success? I said, yeah, we're doing great. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>what good is success if you're not with your children

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<v Speaker 2>I expect you to be at all their games. I

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<v Speaker 2>You'll have to be with your children. So she taught

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<v Speaker 2>me right away. That changed my life. Now, I won't

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<v Speaker 2>say it was every game during the week, but I tried.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't miss much the weekends. I was always there

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<v Speaker 2>and during the week. She was right, what's the sense

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<v Speaker 3>I always talked sense in you always talk sense into you.

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<v Speaker 2>We were a tight unit. Anybody who knows Weber, whether

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<v Speaker 2>know we're a tight unit. We roll together, we're a family.

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing and being close. And that was always Mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got news for you. It wasn't always about being

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<v Speaker 2>a father of how the family should behave. Susie was very,

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<v Speaker 2>very elegant, composed, confident. Her parents taught her how to

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<v Speaker 2>that saved the last day for me? Have I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to you about this Dresley now by the Drifters? Soho

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<v Speaker 2>You can dance and go and carry on till the

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<v Speaker 2>forget who's taking you home and who in your heart

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be Oh darling, save the last dance for me.

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<v Speaker 2>That song. Every time I think of Mommy, I think

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<v Speaker 2>of that song when it comes to business, because any

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<v Speaker 2>function we ever went to, she was my wife. She

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<v Speaker 2>was the better half. She was smart, she was elegant,

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<v Speaker 2>She grew up around a family that was in her

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<v Speaker 2>own businesses. She had the sense about everything. And I

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<v Speaker 2>would show up an event, the two of us would

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<v Speaker 2>say hello to a few people. We would part our ways.

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<v Speaker 2>She would work the room, I would work the room.

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<v Speaker 2>We go our separate ways, but we knew that we'd

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<v Speaker 2>be coming back together for the last dance. And it

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<v Speaker 2>would look the part, act a part, be charming, and

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<v Speaker 2>be able to do whatever she needed to do for

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<v Speaker 2>our careers. Together at any event we ever went to,

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy was extraordinary and perhaps the best story that I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell how to do at my worst moment of

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<v Speaker 2>my career. She and I began together at PVH. She

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<v Speaker 2>She was able to dvise me. She was always level headed.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife never went up and down. She was level headed.

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<v Speaker 2>You've heard me talk of time to time that the

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<v Speaker 2>way to behave in business is like an eagle through

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<v Speaker 2>a snowstorm. Whatever happens, no matter how high the winds are,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what the challenge is, just fly level, don't

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<v Speaker 2>let it affect you. Make the right decisions based on

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<v Speaker 2>common sense and logic. That's who she was. And the

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<v Speaker 2>worst moment in my life was getting fired. I got

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<v Speaker 2>fired for van Usen, and not just as a clerk,

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<v Speaker 2>but as CEO. It was a public firing. It was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be one of the most embarrassing situations in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. Let alone ruined my life. I had worked

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<v Speaker 2>my entire career there as a clerk, I became the president,

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<v Speaker 2>I became a board member and CEO, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>fired because basically the board didn't want me. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>associated with not performing because the day I got let go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they took up the earnings estimate on Wall Street. A

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<v Speaker 2>week later, when the SEC did a filing on my firing,

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<v Speaker 2>they said it clearly, I'll get the terms of my

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<v Speaker 2>contract and then some because there was no wrongdoing. It

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't the guy they wanted. Now. Did I hate

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<v Speaker 2>them for it? Absolutely? Was I angry for it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Was I bitter for it? Yes? Was I said, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things is part of the effort when

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<v Speaker 2>you get fired. But the truth was, I knew the

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<v Speaker 2>board has a sacred duty to manage the CEO and

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<v Speaker 2>the company they are in acting and the interests of

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<v Speaker 2>the shareholders. And if they made a decision that they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want me there, it's their decision to make and

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<v Speaker 2>I had to respect it. And yes, I was unhappy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had to respect it. But what frightened me

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything else was having to tell Susie the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of me sitting down with my wife, who all

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<v Speaker 2>of these years we've been together, who she's looked up

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<v Speaker 2>to me as a business guy who had achieved incredible

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<v Speaker 2>heights from where I began. She saw me from the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning walking around like John Travolta and not knowing anything

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<v Speaker 2>about the complexities of business, or how to behave, or

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<v Speaker 2>how to dress or how to speak for that matter,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things we're talking about. Packaging yourself is as

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<v Speaker 2>important as the products you package. I was a good

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<v Speaker 2>looking guy who knew how to smile. That's all I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Mommy and I together built this career. Now I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell her I was fired. So I call her

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<v Speaker 2>up during the day and I said, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to meet you said, what do you mean, It's just

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of meet you. I want to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong, moke, I said, let's just meet It's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I meet her in a restaur and I sit

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to tell her this, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>very depressed. And I said, Sue, I have some very

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<v Speaker 2>and now her face changed. She was nervous, she was worried.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting across the table from her, and I said, Cusia,

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<v Speaker 2>I have terrible news. And she's waiting and I said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I got fired. I would tell you in a manner

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<v Speaker 2>of seconds. She reached across the table. My demune wife,

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<v Speaker 2>Susie in a manner of seconds punches me in the arm.

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<v Speaker 2>I can still remember how much it hurts. I can

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<v Speaker 2>still remember the black and blue mark, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>more importantly what she said. She said, I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was something important. You scared me. This was a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who knew right from raw, who understood what was important

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<v Speaker 2>in life, and on Mother's Day, can't help but think

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<v Speaker 2>about Susie back in a moment always in fashion. As

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<v Speaker 2>one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Carl Lagafeld

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<v Speaker 2>was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach to style.

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<v Speaker 2>His unique vision of Parisian shit comes to America through

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<v Speaker 2>car Lagofeld Paris. He has women's collections, men's collections, ready

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<v Speaker 2>to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The fashion house Carlagofeld

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<v Speaker 2>also offers a range of watches I wear in premium fragrances.

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<v Speaker 2>You can explore the Carlagofhol collection at carlagofilpowers dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's more than that. I, for one, love to shop.

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<v Speaker 2>I love going around and seeing what's happening and what

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<v Speaker 2>catches my attention, what would make me feel good to

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<v Speaker 2>wear now? I don't wear the women's wear obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can appreciate it and they look amazing. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to look right, you want to have clothes that

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<v Speaker 2>fits you well. You want to look like you're wearing

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<v Speaker 2>something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find it at very affordable prices at Macy's

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<v Speaker 2>Orcarlagofel dot com Paris. The women's ready to wear fashion

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<v Speaker 2>is extraordinary, as well as the handbags and the shoes. I,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, wear men's clothes, unlike my appreciation of women's clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a modern guy. I want to look current. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to look the way I want to feel. I

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<v Speaker 2>go out at night, I'm in black and Carlagofel is

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<v Speaker 2>my buddy. Calls are great. They fit and they have

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<v Speaker 2>little tweaks and touches, whether it's a stripe on the

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of details that go into Carl Lagafel

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<v Speaker 2>because he's always been, he always had been, one of

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<v Speaker 2>say to you, you want to feel good about yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to know that you're dressing properly. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld, Paris, Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Lagafeldparis dot com. I love Polar fleece. It's lightweight, takes

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<v Speaker 2>colors beautifully, It's comfortable, keeps you warm and even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's warm out, it doesn't hamper you. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>you perspire. I love Polar fleece. I also love sweatshirts

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<v Speaker 2>and sweatpants, love them, love them, love them. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan of khaki pants and a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>a golf clothes, and I'm a big fan of Iszide.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be the head of Iszide. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>my company bought it at of bankruptcy and the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>of the company asked me to come in and fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said to me, Mark, the future of the

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<v Speaker 2>company's in your hands. Can you do this? And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I will do it. I put everything, my heart and

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<v Speaker 2>I left a long time ago, and the company just

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<v Speaker 2>continues to thrive. Isaot is one of the great sweater makers,

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<v Speaker 2>pant make a shirt makers, knit shirt makers, Polar shirt makers,

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<v Speaker 2>They're incredible company. The colors are great, the fabrics are great. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you ever wonder what you should wear, I'll make it

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<v Speaker 2>easy for you. If you're going to be casual, go

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<v Speaker 2>in and look at ist. Now that doesn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have dress shirts and they don't have suits,

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<v Speaker 2>you go find them. Isaot is a collective brand that

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<v Speaker 2>offers lifestyle apparel to everyone in America. And it's true,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fun brand, but it's also priced at fun

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<v Speaker 2>prices everyone can afford it. I love this brand. Of

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<v Speaker 2>all the brands that I'm involved with, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>name them, think about PVH and LVMH and all the brands,

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<v Speaker 2>Isaot is the one that's most personal to me because

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<v Speaker 2>I was involved in crafting the future of this brand.

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<v Speaker 2>The clothes are great, fall is great. They're doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>Isa dot com, isaacat jcpenny. Go look for it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're going to be very happy. And ladies, those

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<v Speaker 2>of you the shopping for the guys in your lives,

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<v Speaker 2>take a look. I think they'll be very happy with

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<v Speaker 2>your choices. Isaac for men, welcome back to it. Always

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<v Speaker 2>in fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's your host, Mark Webber.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mother's Day Weekend tribute to women all over the world,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly moms. Congratulations we are well. We wouldn't be here

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<v Speaker 2>without you. You're the best. I'll tell you what talking

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<v Speaker 2>the best. I have spent a career in luxury fashion

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<v Speaker 2>and retail, and I have to tell you the women

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<v Speaker 2>in this business are amazing in many respects. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>much more attuned to this industry than men are. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>guys myself included. I was always in awe of the

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<v Speaker 2>for a guy. It was brilliant assistant designer. He kept

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<v Speaker 2>moving up and before I moved up, I was working

414
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<v Speaker 2>in the children's division, the boy's division, and I was

415
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<v Speaker 2>given a new boss one day, a woman. Her name

416
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<v Speaker 2>was Darlene Johnston. She was trained at rob Roy, which

417
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<v Speaker 2>was one of the big children's companies in the world

418
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<v Speaker 2>at the time, but more importantly in Ralph Lauren, and

419
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<v Speaker 2>she knew knitwear like no one you ever saw. She

420
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<v Speaker 2>knew everything about the weights of the fabric, the yarn sizes,

421
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<v Speaker 2>how to manage all the machinery, how to design it,

422
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<v Speaker 2>cut it, style it. And I learned from her, and

423
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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you I got a brilliant education

424
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<v Speaker 2>from her, and that's how I started actually to be

425
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<v Speaker 2>perfectly frank in my company venues. And at the time,

426
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<v Speaker 2>I believe I was the first guy who ever worked

427
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<v Speaker 2>for a woman in that company. And from there on

428
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<v Speaker 2>everything changed. The women accelerated during my course at van

429
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<v Speaker 2>Us and I work with two young ladies who both

430
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<v Speaker 2>of them I would say are probably five feet tall stature,

431
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<v Speaker 2>but in capability where they were incredible, Helen Katz and

432
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<v Speaker 2>Island Combatis. One was dresshirts Eileen, and the other was

433
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<v Speaker 2>sports for Helen. And those two young ladies who I

434
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<v Speaker 2>work with over the course of time, helped make PVH

435
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<v Speaker 2>brilliant and I was incredibly lucky and aware of what

436
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<v Speaker 2>they were able to do. As time went on, I

437
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<v Speaker 2>met a woman named Kathy Bremberg who was an operations genius.

438
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<v Speaker 2>I met another operation's genius, all women, financial people, Pam Koton,

439
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<v Speaker 2>the treasurer of the company. All women. But perhaps the

440
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<v Speaker 2>most important story of all of them was before I

441
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<v Speaker 2>became a board member, I was head of marketing for

442
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<v Speaker 2>the company, head of merchandise, had a bunch of big titles.

443
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<v Speaker 2>I become president of the company. I become a member

444
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<v Speaker 2>of the board, and I remember that I always struggled

445
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<v Speaker 2>with what a van Usen was, and I started getting

446
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<v Speaker 2>confused because van Usen we made women's wear. At this time,

447
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<v Speaker 2>we had a big women's were business in our outlet stores.

448
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<v Speaker 2>We made men's pants, men's sports where a lot of

449
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<v Speaker 2>different items, even men's baiting sits. We had licensees and

450
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<v Speaker 2>made belts and small leather goods, pajamas, underwear. We had

451
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<v Speaker 2>everything in van Using. And here I am responsible for

452
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<v Speaker 2>creating the marketing for the company and the advertising, and

453
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<v Speaker 2>I was always struggling, should I make pictures that have

454
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<v Speaker 2>all these products in it? We had eyewear. Should I

455
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<v Speaker 2>do spend money on eyewear? What is van Using? You

456
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<v Speaker 2>could call it a lifestyle brand, but everybody calls themselves

457
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<v Speaker 2>a lifestyle brand. I was struggling how to make venues

458
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<v Speaker 2>in distinctive Now. Over the course of time, there was

459
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of shirt advertising. Seymour Philips, the son of

460
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<v Speaker 2>the founder back in the day, created advertising in baseball

461
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<v Speaker 2>parks around the country and made venues and what it

462
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<v Speaker 2>was a big national brand. There was a woman in

463
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<v Speaker 2>our company. Her name was a Stelle Ellis. I've talked

464
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<v Speaker 2>about her often, maybe even recently, and she was on

465
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<v Speaker 2>the board. She was the marketing spokesman on the board.

466
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<v Speaker 2>She was one of those women who grew up in

467
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<v Speaker 2>New York City. By the time I met her, she

468
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<v Speaker 2>was in her early eighties, sharpest attack, and had a

469
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<v Speaker 2>point of view, and she gravitated towards me because I

470
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<v Speaker 2>was younger. I had a point of view. I wasn't

471
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<v Speaker 2>afraid to give it. I had a creative bent. She

472
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<v Speaker 2>was creative. So we always talked before and after the

473
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<v Speaker 2>board meetings. And one day I walked into the meeting

474
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<v Speaker 2>and we were there alone. I said, I need your help.

475
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<v Speaker 2>So what do you need more? I said, I'm struggling.

476
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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to do a major campaign on van Usen.

477
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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot of money that we want to

478
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<v Speaker 2>spend on the brand, and I'm not sure what does

479
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<v Speaker 2>the van use it. And I'll never forget I've I've

480
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<v Speaker 2>told the story. She put her head down for a minute,

481
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<v Speaker 2>looked back up at me and smiled and she said,

482
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<v Speaker 2>mark van Usen the shirts for men. I looked at

483
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<v Speaker 2>her and I said, that's so simple and brilliant, but

484
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<v Speaker 2>does it cover everything? Says it doesn't have it. Shirts

485
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<v Speaker 2>for Men is what we are, how people know us.

486
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<v Speaker 2>We're the best in the industry, one of the most

487
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<v Speaker 2>recognized brands in the world, and you have a right

488
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<v Speaker 2>to have all those other brands and all those other

489
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<v Speaker 2>products around. Don't worry about it. And I went on

490
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<v Speaker 2>a tear creating all kinds of advertising of shirts and faces,

491
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<v Speaker 2>and it was one of the most proudest moments the

492
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<v Speaker 2>company ever had. The advertising we created was brilliant, so

493
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Shirts for Men and I really really always enjoyed working

494
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<v Speaker 2>with her. As I moved to LVMH, and I spent

495
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<v Speaker 2>most of my time focusing on Donna, Karen and the company.

496
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<v Speaker 2>While they gave me all the titles chairman and CEO

497
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<v Speaker 2>of elvmanche Well, I was just member of the executive

498
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<v Speaker 2>committee in Paris. While I oversaw the Thomas Pink Shirt Company.

499
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<v Speaker 2>My responsibility was take the Donna Aaron company that only

500
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<v Speaker 2>I Madge spent six hundred and fifty million dollars six

501
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<v Speaker 2>forty five to be exact, that they never made money

502
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<v Speaker 2>on it and turned into a profitable entity. And I

503
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<v Speaker 2>focused on that. And I get to LVMH and I

504
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<v Speaker 2>meet Donna who's a whirling dervish, brilliant, you know, million

505
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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour, and I can come back to her

506
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<v Speaker 2>in a moment. But I met my first dkmy meeting

507
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<v Speaker 2>in because it was my first day, they arranged a

508
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<v Speaker 2>meeting in the boardroom with my new group of executives,

509
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:10.319
<v Speaker 2>all of my direct reports, including Judy Lougo, my assistant,

510
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Kathy Volker, Jennifer Morris, the heads of licensing, Jackie Bowser,

511
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the head of marketing, Patty Cohen, the head of PRN Marketing,

512
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and of course Donna Karen. There was also Tricia Calber,

513
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<v Speaker 2>the head of Finance and chief operating officer, as well

514
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.079
<v Speaker 2>as Mary Wong, the head of decayn Y Sportswear, Carol Kerner,

515
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<v Speaker 2>the head of Donna Karen Collection. And I'm sitting in

516
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<v Speaker 2>the boardroom and I said, hi, boys and girls, and

517
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<v Speaker 2>I look around and said, oh, I'm the only board

518
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<v Speaker 2>The whole place was all women, and their direct reports

519
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>was all women. So I was in with the Amazons.

520
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I was with the most powerful women in the world,

521
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 2>all these capable people, every one of them was a woman.

522
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<v Speaker 2>And in speaking with them and having this first meeting,

523
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<v Speaker 2>I realized how lucky I was, and it was something

524
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<v Speaker 2>that made very clear to me how important women were

525
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<v Speaker 2>in our industry. Any question I had with finance, Tricia

526
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.319
<v Speaker 2>had the answer. Anything I needed to know about how

527
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Bloomingdale's thought, Mary would have the answer. Anything I needed

528
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>to know about women's collection, Carol had the answer. And

529
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I worked with women my entire career and it was

530
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<v Speaker 2>really extraordinary experience. Now, I've always had a philosophy that

531
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<v Speaker 2>I want to work with people that I struggled to

532
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>be value added. Think about what that means. That means

533
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>that the smarter they were, the more capable they were,

534
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>the better I would like it, and I would find

535
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>a way to fit in and be productive. And it

536
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 2>was tough with this group because they knew a lot

537
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>about a lot of things, and I wanted to make

538
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>an impression, and I did. My contribution to the group

539
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>came down to I understood corporate life, and I understood

540
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<v Speaker 2>what ELV Maje was accounting for and what they needed.

541
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<v Speaker 2>While this was one of the great brands in the world,

542
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>they weren't getting a return. And the reason they weren't

543
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>getting a turn is for whatever reason, the former CEOs,

544
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>who were all very capable, one was a lawyer. One

545
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>was from Sacks if they have anyone was from Georgia Romani.

546
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<v Speaker 2>They never ran an American or apparel company, an accessory

547
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.519
<v Speaker 2>company and licensing company that had a collection component. They

548
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.440
<v Speaker 2>were all familiar with the collection, the very expensive thing,

549
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't understand the mass peal of the dkm

550
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<v Speaker 2>Y Brandon how to make it profitable. And of course

551
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<v Speaker 2>I knew that, and in order to get these things

552
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>in place, I had to put in disciplines that would

553
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>make it profitable and expense I remember the first day

554
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:40.759
<v Speaker 2>in meeting with them, when I started to ask what

555
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I thought were difficult questions, not intentionally, but they were

556
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 2>questions that needed to be answered. Every answer I'd get

557
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>from one of those people would be can I be

558
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 2>honest with you? I said, no, what I always do,

559
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>No lie to me, and they would look at me

560
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<v Speaker 2>like and laugh, And I said, the most important thing,

561
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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking questions. You shouldn't be afraid to answer them

562
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 2>the way you feel. I want your opinions. You're being

563
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>paid for your pinons. I don't have to agree, but

564
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.839
<v Speaker 2>we need to get on board. And it was really

565
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 2>bad for the first week till finally I said to

566
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<v Speaker 2>my assistant Judy, empty out the jelly bean jar. I

567
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>had a big I guess it was a trophy. Someone

568
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>went it was filled with jelly beans. Anybody came into

569
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 2>my office conference room could have the jelly beans. And

570
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I emptied it out. And I said to the team

571
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>we had a meeting. I said, from here on in,

572
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<v Speaker 2>anybody who says to me, can I be honest with you,

573
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<v Speaker 2>He's going to have to put a dollar in that bowl.

574
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<v Speaker 2>I mean the dollar bowl filled up in like minutes.

575
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<v Speaker 2>But we eliminated that habit, and we all agreed that

576
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 2>in ordered us to be productive, we had to be

577
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 2>honest with each other. Of course we did number one.

578
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<v Speaker 2>Number two we had to focus on money. We had

579
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>to get the shareholders healthy image money. They had to

580
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.759
<v Speaker 2>make money. This is something was foreign to these people.

581
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<v Speaker 2>Not that they were bad, because in Donna's world, the

582
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<v Speaker 2>most important thing is build a brand and the money

583
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>will flow. That's true. The more powerful you make the brand,

584
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 2>the higher prices you could sell, the more goods you'll

585
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>sell at regular price. It should work, but it didn't.

586
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>You had to be focused on the margins. You had

587
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.279
<v Speaker 2>to be focused on all those financial things. And I

588
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 2>was adamant, and I refused to give in an inn

589
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>an inch, and we changed the profile of the company

590
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 2>who made a ton of money. And part of it

591
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.839
<v Speaker 2>doing was I made everyone vested in the company. I

592
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>set up financial plans that if we hit everyone would

593
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 2>not only get their bonuses, but special bonuses. I had

594
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>career veteran Patty Khaneh's been thirty years with Donna. I'll

595
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 2>never forget. After the first l TIP long term incentive

596
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>plan came out and she received her check, she came

597
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 2>into my office with tears in her eyes and she said,

598
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>first of all, when you said that we were going

599
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>to do this, I never believed it. Number one. Number two,

600
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>even if it was real, I never would believe we

601
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 2>would collect what you promised. And number three, this is

602
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 2>the most money myself or my associates I've ever made

603
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>working here. We've always worked hard, but we've never participated

604
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>in the profit sharing. And I can't tell you how

605
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>much I respect you and how much we all appreciate

606
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>what you did. It was one of the great moments

607
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 2>of my life because I delivered on what we promised.

608
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 2>You focus on financials. If we make the return for

609
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 2>lvmheal all benefit, and we did year after year after

610
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 2>the year. One of my favorite stories had to do

611
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>with intimate apparel, ladies underwear, men's under it, but particularly

612
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>ladies underwear. When I was at Calvin Klein, we had

613
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the most profitable women's underwear business in the world. It

614
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 2>was huge, It was amazing and DK and why Donna

615
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Karen To this day, I'm sure Donna Karen's hosiery, you know,

616
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 2>stockings and leggings and stuff, is one of their biggest business.

617
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<v Speaker 2>It's an annuity every year to just keep making it

618
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 2>and filling in it and make a ton of money.

619
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I get to the company, I said, I want to

620
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<v Speaker 2>meet the underwear people. Why because I went to Macy's

621
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and the Donna shop was in shadow, because Calvin Klein's

622
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>shop was so big and so powerful that the lights

623
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>from their shop were blocking out our shop because we

624
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 2>were so small. And I went to meet the licensee

625
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>with Kathy in with Jennifer Morris and Kathy Volga, and

626
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I said to them, listen, I came from the biggest

627
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.759
<v Speaker 2>underwear company in the world. We have to invest in this.

628
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<v Speaker 2>This is so much money. Even though Donna Karon is

629
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.039
<v Speaker 2>doing great. Deca't want should be big. It's not digging up.

630
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:32.599
<v Speaker 2>I went to the licensee. I said to the licensee, listen.

631
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I had an idea. I said, you know, we're not

632
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 2>spending enough money. I'm building shops. I want you to

633
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.480
<v Speaker 2>take our business in Macy's and rebuild the shop. He said,

634
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't have money for that. I say, I'll tell

635
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you what we should do. Whether it's one year or

636
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 2>two year. Let's take a hiatus on advertising underwear. I said,

637
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 2>we're not spending enough to mean anything. They said, we

638
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 2>can't do that. We have to have it. I said,

639
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 2>listen to me. You're spending a million dollars when we

640
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 2>do a photo shoot for this category and this kind

641
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 2>of models. You're spending quarter of a million dollars just

642
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>on that, adding another one hundred thousand of the photographer.

643
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Then take with the money that's left after paying royalties

644
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 2>and guarantees to the models or whatever, you got maybe

645
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 2>half a million dollars. At the time, an advertising page

646
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 2>was fifty thousand dollars. So if the course of the

647
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 2>year we would have ten pages over the cost of

648
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 2>the year, that's one magazine a month. Even less. If

649
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 2>you put two pages in Vogue. You're only going to

650
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 2>have five insertions the whole year. I said, you're not

651
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>spending enough money to be meaningful. So what I want

652
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>you to do is authorize us to take that money

653
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and let's build shops with it. The guy said no.

654
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>So I walked out and I said to Kathy and Jennifer,

655
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't do business here anymore. I don't want them

656
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>in our licensees. They said, but you know, I said, listen, guys,

657
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>we worked well as a team. There are certain things

658
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>that are important to you. There are certain things that

659
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>important to me. We could do better. Find us a

660
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 2>licensee who needs this. Our licensee was with Jacoll, great

661
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>underwear maker. They were amazing, but they just weren't what

662
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>we needed to do. We were tiny. Cavin was big.

663
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>So they found maiden Form and we signed a twenty

664
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>five year deal with maiden Form with the CEO public

665
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>company to do Donna Carna dk Y and they were

666
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 2>desperate for it, and in order for us to give

667
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 2>them twenty five years, we did a deal that was

668
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.320
<v Speaker 2>ten times richer than we had with more coal, and

669
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 2>included in that was building shops and doing everything to

670
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>build the brand and for maiden Form. We were the

671
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 2>star on the top of the Christmas tree and we

672
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 2>built a strong business. But all the women that we

673
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>work with, all the people there, I struggled to find

674
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>a way to be valuated and I did. And the

675
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:42.599
<v Speaker 2>reason I struggled because they were great and I had

676
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 2>a tremendous respect and I still do for women in retail.

677
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I worked with women in retail that were courageous. Here's

678
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 2>a simple thing that most people don't know. If you're

679
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.679
<v Speaker 2>a manufacturer, you put a line together, you put your

680
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>ideas down to whether it shoes, handbase, whatever, you make samples,

681
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and you go out and sell it. If you sell

682
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot, you make a lot. If you don't sell

683
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot, you don't make a lot. You're not making

684
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 2>a decision. You're going to retailers who have to stand

685
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>up and buy it. They're the most courageous people in

686
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the world. If you're at Bloomingdale's and you come with

687
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Donna Karen shoes, they're the ones who step out and say,

688
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I want a thousand pair for all my stores. They

689
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>make the commitment. They're the ones religiously aggressive. Most of

690
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the buyers and people I met along the way and

691
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 2>the women's dis industry put together were women and it

692
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 2>was amazing to work with women. And not only that,

693
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>when you stop and think about it, give me a break.

694
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 2>You know. Men work, they go home, have their dinner

695
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:42.199
<v Speaker 2>and go to sleep. Women work, They have families, They

696
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>go home, they have children, they have to feed, they

697
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 2>have hundreds they have to take care of. They are

698
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 2>working more hours than we could ever work. Now, I

699
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:50.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to make light of men, and you know

700
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm one of them. I committed myself to hard work

701
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.199
<v Speaker 2>and effort and think about the business all the time.

702
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>But if you think about a women's life, it doesn't

703
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>end six o'clock. She has families to manage and all

704
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 2>these things. So I always had a great respect for

705
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>women in business. Well, i'm on the subject of women

706
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>in business. Let's go back to LVMH. I'm meeting with

707
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 2>LVMH Corporate in Paris and part of the yearly efforts

708
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.400
<v Speaker 2>of LVMH. This is a company that cares very deeply

709
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>about their people, recognizes that there are people, they are associates.

710
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Their workforce is what makes them special, and every year

711
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>they want to make sure first things first, a tenant

712
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 2>in business then I learned in my PVH days is

713
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.800
<v Speaker 2>when you have someone working for you that's really good,

714
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.280
<v Speaker 2>you need to promote them, obviously, but sometimes you have

715
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>them in jobs that are really important and there are

716
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.880
<v Speaker 2>other opportunities that open up, but you don't want to

717
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>give those people up because they're too important to your

718
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 2>You're a part of the organization that might be in sales,

719
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and now you have a job in merchant, you don't

720
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 2>want to give them up. Well, in that day, our

721
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 2>CEO came up with a policy at one point, and

722
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I stay with me when I became CEO that any

723
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>job that opens up in the company, I don't care

724
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>how important you are to the division you're in. If

725
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 2>something opens up and it would be a promotion, we're

726
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>going to give you an opportunity to the interviewed you

727
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>for it, or give you that job. Because if you're

728
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>going to end up holding people back, you're going to

729
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>eventually lose them. So your idea should be, rather than

730
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>lose them to another company, lose them to yourself. You

731
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>can't hold people back. And this was a tenet of

732
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>LVMH as well, which I was proud to be a

733
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:38.280
<v Speaker 2>part of and excited to hear. LVMH had sixty thousand employers,

734
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I believe at the time, and they had policies in

735
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>place and one of the most sophisticated HR teams globally

736
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 2>that I ever saw in my life. And there were

737
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.199
<v Speaker 2>constant updates and reviews on people, and the whole review

738
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 2>process took a very long time, doing reviews, doing self evaluations,

739
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 2>talking about where someone can or cannot be, what other

740
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>opportunities in the company might be afford to those people.

741
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 2>And it was a brilliant set of circumstances. And I'll

742
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 2>never forget. I am at this meeting in human resources,

743
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>in the human resource part of my financial meetings and

744
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 2>these strategic planning, and I had gone through the evaluations

745
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>of all my direct reports, some of which you heard before,

746
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 2>all of which were women. And the women that I

747
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:26.039
<v Speaker 2>work with either had lives that they established in the

748
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 2>United States in New York, they owned their own homes,

749
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 2>they owned their own businesses. You know, they had lives.

750
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Many of them were single or had significant others, and

751
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>some of them were married. I had children, They had

752
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>their roots in New York. Before in preparation for this

753
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 2>meeting that I was going to have in LVMH. I

754
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>asked each of the individuals whether or not they would

755
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.760
<v Speaker 2>be movable, because a big part of elval image global

756
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>is they move people all over the world. If you're

757
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.119
<v Speaker 2>in New York and there's a great opportunity happening in

758
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Paris or in London, you should be transportable if you

759
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 2>want to be. And I had these meetings with each

760
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.119
<v Speaker 2>of the individuals and Hey, Patty, would you be willing

761
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>to move to Paris? You know, Mark, my life is here,

762
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>my husband's here, our work is here. We love New York.

763
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 2>I've been with Donna. This is where I belong, this

764
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 2>is where I want to finish out my career. And

765
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I went one by one with all the different women,

766
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>and pretty much across the board, every single one of

767
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 2>them wanted to remain in New York. All of them

768
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>had different reasons. And I asked them, if there was

769
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity for you to be promoted to make more money,

770
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 2>to go live in Paris, or go live in London

771
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 2>or Rome or Antwerp or Hong Kong or Japan, do

772
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.639
<v Speaker 2>you want to live and move there? And the answer,

773
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.280
<v Speaker 2>pretty much across the board, if not exactly, was no,

774
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm New York born and bred. This is where I

775
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>want to be. This is where I want to have

776
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>my career. Thank you for asking. I'm thankful for lv

777
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>IMAH that they would consider it, but I belong here.

778
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Fast forward. Now I'm at the meeting with the head

779
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>of HR who outlines the entirety of a plan that

780
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 2>She was a brilliant woman, shot and tell, and I

781
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>liked hering it along well with her. She just laid

782
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 2>out the whole plan and said, now I'm going to

783
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 2>leave you in the hands of I forgot his name,

784
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>some French guy. And she left the meeting with the

785
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.119
<v Speaker 2>meeting started. So I'm looking through all the notes Mark

786
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 2>in a French accent. I see you have some very

787
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 2>high rated women in your division. They're all getting better

788
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 2>than average or exceptional. These are women that we could

789
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>use in the organization. Let's talk about opportunities. And when

790
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 2>I get into the conversation with him, I said, in

791
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>preparation for this meeting, Shot whatever his name was, I said,

792
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.719
<v Speaker 2>none of my directports, none of my direct reports, want

793
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.280
<v Speaker 2>to move. They're all happy, and they're in New York

794
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and there's silence in the room just like this. You

795
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>mean to tell me if we have an opportunity for

796
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 2>them in Paris, they wouldn't want to move to Paris

797
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and work in our corporate office here. I said no.

798
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>He said, well, I don't believe that. How could that be?

799
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>And I made them one of the great mistakes of

800
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 2>my life that I loved. I paid a price for

801
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it in terms of good will. I said, they live

802
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 2>in the greatest city in the world. They all have

803
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>significant others, they all have husbands, they all have routsia,

804
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 2>they're happy in New York and they don't want to

805
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 2>move even to Paris. And he goes, you didn't even

806
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>focus on He goes right to You're saying New York

807
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>is the greatest city in the world. And I said,

808
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>m yeah, I thought that was Everyone knew that. He

809
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>got pissed at me. You have no idea, He says,

810
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you say that to me, especially to

811
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.199
<v Speaker 2>us in Paris here, that's the greatest city of the world.

812
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 2>What is Paris? Blah blah blah blah blah. I said, listen,

813
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>can we get off of this. This is not about

814
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 2>who has the greatest city in the world. You asked me.

815
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 2>They have rootsia, they don't want to leave. They're powerful women.

816
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>They deserve to have what they want. I've asked them,

817
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>if it was promotable more money, do they want to

818
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>leave to the person. Every one of them said, no,

819
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what this is about. So having said all of that,

820
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I really will tell you that I have the highest regard.

821
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.239
<v Speaker 2>In my career, was surrounded by great women who've done

822
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.880
<v Speaker 2>great things for our country, for our industry, for our company,

823
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and for the all the people that were lucky enough

824
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 2>to be around them. Happy Mother's Day to all of you,

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<v Speaker 2>and happy Ladies Day. Back in a moment, Always in

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<v Speaker 2>Fashion spent a lifetime of my career building the van

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<v Speaker 2>Usen Brand, and I am so pleased that they're back

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<v Speaker 2>with us now talking about suits. Men were dressing up

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<v Speaker 2>again and it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits

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<v Speaker 2>can be won on multiple occasions in multiple ways. You

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<v Speaker 2>could wear a suit formally to go out at night

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<v Speaker 2>or to an event, wear a suit to the office

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<v Speaker 2>with or without a tie. If you look closely, now

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<v Speaker 2>fashion trends, suits are being worn with turtlenecks or mark next.

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<v Speaker 2>The choices are endless and every one of them looks right.

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<v Speaker 2>You could really really look the part. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>packaging yourself is important does the products you package, and

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a suit is one of those things that make

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<v Speaker 2>men look their best. Venuesing invented a new idea. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called the cool Flex suit. It's been engineered with stretch technology,

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<v Speaker 2>giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. It's wrinkle

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<v Speaker 2>resistant fabric, it's cool moisture wiki. It makes it perfect

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<v Speaker 2>for all occasions. As we discussed just now, this new

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<v Speaker 2>style of looking sharp while feeling cool and comfortable is amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm so excited that the ven Using company is

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<v Speaker 2>involved in this new technology and is embracing the whole

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<v Speaker 2>idea of dressing up. Let's not forget Venues and made

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<v Speaker 2>it's name with dress shirts. It's only proper that the

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<v Speaker 2>suit business follows strongly in its way. You can find

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<v Speaker 2>Vanues in cool Flex Men's stretch suits at jcpenny are

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<v Speaker 2>online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're great, you should

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<v Speaker 2>go look at them. Done. Karen began a Career is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the finest, most successful, powerful women in the

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<v Speaker 2>fashion industry. She developed a collection aimed at the luxury

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<v Speaker 2>market for women on the go, women who were powerful

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<v Speaker 2>in their workplace, women who had lives that extended beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the workplace, and her clothes went from day and tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>An extraordinary collection. But the interesting thing Donna Karen had

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<v Speaker 2>a young daughter, and she had friends, and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>afford to buy the Donna Karon collection, and Donna invented

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<v Speaker 2>dk NY Donna Aaron, New York. It's an offshoot of

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<v Speaker 2>the Donna Karen collection. The same concept a lifestyle brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we talk about lifestyle brands, what does that really mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Simply what they say, there are brands that follow you

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<v Speaker 2>throughout your lifestyle. You get up in the morning, you

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<v Speaker 2>start to get dressed Donna Karen decan why as intimate apparel,

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<v Speaker 2>as hosiery, as all those products. You're getting dressed for work.

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<v Speaker 2>You get accessorized shoes, handbags, and it takes you through

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<v Speaker 2>the day. The remarkable thing about dk andy clothes for work,

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<v Speaker 2>they work into the evening. The dresses, the suit boots,

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<v Speaker 2>the pants, the sweaters, the blouses. Extraordinary clothes at affordable

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<v Speaker 2>prices that go from day in tonight. Part of your

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle is active. You have weekends, you have events, you

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<v Speaker 2>participate in sports. Donna Karen's Casual Clothes did that under

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<v Speaker 2>the DK and Y label, a vast array of casual

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<v Speaker 2>sportswear that make women look great as they navigate their

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<v Speaker 2>busy lives. Whether you're going to soccer games for your children,

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<v Speaker 2>or whether you're going out to the movies, whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do, dkn Y Jeans, DC and Y Sportswear

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<v Speaker 2>is there for you. That's what a lifestyle brand is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I need to mention DKY active Wear, which is extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 2>the leggings, the sports bras, the sweats. You can wear

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<v Speaker 2>DKY active Wear certainly in the gym, certainly when you're

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<v Speaker 2>working out at home, and certainly if you want on

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<v Speaker 2>the street, because it's that well done. The quality of

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<v Speaker 2>DK why is nothing short of exceptional. And why shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>it be because it was born from the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>luxury made affordable for women of America. DK and Why

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<v Speaker 2>a true lifestyle brand that takes you from day and tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>from the week into the weekend. D can why you

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<v Speaker 2>can find dcn Why and Macy's DKY dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Always in Fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's your host, Mark Webber. It's Mother's Day and Mother's

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<v Speaker 2>Day weekend. It's an emotional time for me. I was

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<v Speaker 2>married to a woman my entire life, a great woman, Susie,

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<v Speaker 2>sweet Sue, and she passed away. It's someone seven years

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<v Speaker 2>ago and it was like yesterday. Never dreamed that she

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be with us. So when this holiday comes around,

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<v Speaker 2>it it leaves me and Jesse and the boys and

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<v Speaker 2>our daughter in laws and everyone since state happy. We

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<v Speaker 2>had our time with her, and we did, but a

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<v Speaker 2>sad state. But it's a time to reflect on mothers

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. I had a great mother who loved me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a MoMA's boy. The boys and MoMA's boys,

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<v Speaker 2>they all love their mother's more than they love their father's.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to admit it. My children, I know, love me,

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<v Speaker 2>but not like they love their mommy. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about this all the time. I think it's hysterical.

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<v Speaker 2>For a lighter note, you know, I took the boys.

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<v Speaker 2>You see all these professional athletes, okay, football players whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The father's in the backyard. He's running around on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>He's teaching them how to throw the ball, catch the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>tackle the boys, all the stuff. Then the guy wins

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. He catches the past and he puts

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<v Speaker 2>his hand up, he says, hey, Mom, Hi, Mom. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like me with the boys. No matter what I

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<v Speaker 2>ever do, they found my wife to be exceptional. That's

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<v Speaker 2>something I had to live with and the something I

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<v Speaker 2>had to get used to, and I did because she

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<v Speaker 2>was great. And I've been fortunate enough to know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of great women and personally and professionally. And I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you all do, and I hope you appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>That life for women is even more complicated than men.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to be the brains of the outfit. They

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<v Speaker 2>have to manage the family. They have to help pay

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<v Speaker 2>the bills. They have to take care of the children.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to get them to everywhere they need to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you once I did a radio show and

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<v Speaker 2>a demo long before I got on the radio, and

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about being missed the mom. That my wife's

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<v Speaker 2>mom hurt her leg. She had to go to Florida

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<v Speaker 2>help her. She broke her leg. I was alone with

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<v Speaker 2>the kids for a week. It was the toughest job

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<v Speaker 2>I ever had in my life, not including or notwithstanding

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that I went shopping bought a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>bottles of milk and I threw some stuff on it.

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<v Speaker 2>The milk spilled all over the car. The car smelled

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<v Speaker 2>from milk. I had two little guys. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>feed them every day. It was during the summer. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to take them to the beach. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>keep them clean. In the midst of all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the boys got the measles. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a nightmare in my life. I couldn't handle how

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<v Speaker 2>hard it was to be mister mom. So I salute

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<v Speaker 2>you ladies tonight. I salute the mothers of America, I sayes,

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<v Speaker 2>I salute the mothers of the world, because none of

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<v Speaker 2>us would be here without you. With that happy Mother's Day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope you enjoyed always in fashion, taking a

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<v Speaker 2>little life experience and a little cultural aside away from

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<v Speaker 2>business and away from the hardcore, to talk about really

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<v Speaker 2>what's important in life, our mom's good night.