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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on this Valentine's Day. Also a happy birthday to

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and to my daughter in law, Yes, both

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<v Speaker 1>born on Valentine's Day. I hope you've had a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the beginning. It is opening day of college

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<v Speaker 1>baseball season, and as you know, unfortunately we pre record

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<v Speaker 1>most of our shows, so I can't really get you

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed on the baseball. Wildcats are playing down

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville against Lipscomb, but we'll have a full report

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<v Speaker 1>after the weekend on Nickmnjeones team and how the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>opened up. So I hate to leave it at that

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<v Speaker 1>with baseball, but that's just where we are right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up tomorrow night, it's Kentucky Texas Wildcats playing down

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin against the Longhorns eight pm Eastern start. That

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<v Speaker 1>means our coverage begins at five point thirty with the Cats,

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<v Speaker 1>our boys six thirty with Cameron and Dave, Tom and

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<v Speaker 1>Jack with a call at eight o'clock and Jack's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>join us at the bottom of the hour and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get a scouting report on Texas. But more than anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to Jack about the reunion. We've

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<v Speaker 1>talked all week about the reunion of the seventy four

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy five team, and of course he was such

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of that as a true freshman. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up at the bottom of the hour. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>also hear from Kenny Brooks and Vic shaf for the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas coach. The Long Orange put one on the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>last night at Historic Memorial Coliseum, so we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that coming up as well. But we got to start

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<v Speaker 1>off with Mark Pope giving us a medical update on

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<v Speaker 1>his two injured backcourt players, Lamont Butler, Jackson Robinson. You

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<v Speaker 1>probably know by now that the news was not good

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of his weekly press conference. The first question

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<v Speaker 1>was about Lamont, who, of course took that terrible spell

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<v Speaker 1>and reinjured his shoulder, and it doesn't sound good for

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still kind of going day by day. We're trying

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<v Speaker 2>some different treatments and we're just it's we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>piece it together. And then with Jackson, as I know,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, maybe be a little while to.

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<v Speaker 3>See if you do with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we either we'd actually did a third opinion for

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<v Speaker 2>him yesterday. He's meeting with the best people in the

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<v Speaker 2>world as well as Lamon also is, and there's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're kind of in the taking information, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out the course of action, decisions to be made,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're both pretty complicated situations timing wise and

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<v Speaker 2>recovery wise, and there's als also a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a guessing part in terms of just the best medical

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<v Speaker 2>treatment at the best time. They're both pretty serious injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guys are desperate to play and they're desperate

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<v Speaker 2>to get healthy, and they're you know, short term and

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<v Speaker 2>long term, and it's kind of balancing all those out

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<v Speaker 2>with the calendar not just for the season, but for

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<v Speaker 2>the summer and for next year. It's just all trying

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<v Speaker 2>to fit all those piece together and then kind of

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<v Speaker 2>see day by day what kind of returns they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>from new medical treatments. Is it's you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of where we are right now. I know that's super vague,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's I think we could potentially find some clarity

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<v Speaker 2>on both those guys in the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see next couple of weeks man, And as I've said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not going to win the SEC. Any

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<v Speaker 1>shot they have at winning the tournament hinges on having

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<v Speaker 1>at least one of those guys back. I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the SEC tournament, and then what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of run do they make in the postseason tournament in

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA without one or both of those guys, And

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<v Speaker 1>just it really is disappointing because they had something special

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<v Speaker 1>going and still do, but to not have one or

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<v Speaker 1>both of those guys, it just really taints what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now. And everybody deals with injuries, but this

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<v Speaker 1>team is so roster specific, and he is having to

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<v Speaker 1>move people around to try to figure out what to

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<v Speaker 1>do and who to play where and what can I

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<v Speaker 1>how many minutes can I get out of this guy

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<v Speaker 1>play in a position that he's not used to playing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that sort of thing. So I just hated

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<v Speaker 1>for Pope and for the Big Blue Nation. We're all

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<v Speaker 1>having such a good time watching this team, covering this team,

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<v Speaker 1>watching this story unfold, and now you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big what if situation, and again, everybody's dealing with stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that Kentucky's dealing with two injuries like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way Pope was making it sound really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to read between the lines. You wonder will we see

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Robinson again. I think we'll see Lamont Butler. Just

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<v Speaker 1>question a when and now? Do you gamble and rest

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<v Speaker 1>him as much as possible for that late season or

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<v Speaker 1>postseason run if you will. It's getting late, folks, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the schedule. So that's just something a

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<v Speaker 1>coach has to deal with. I will say this, For

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<v Speaker 1>all the problems he's having with his team right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Poulpe hasn't lost his sense of humor. Somebody at

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<v Speaker 1>the news conference asked him tongue firmly planted in cheek

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that the SEC, for all its grandeur

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<v Speaker 1>and greatness, best conference maybe ever overall, has a five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred record. That of course has come up a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times broadcasters, two different guys, and I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it last night. Carl raviits fell on his sword, ESPN,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But of course the overall record will never

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<v Speaker 1>be anything but five hundred in this and every other league.

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<v Speaker 1>But somebody asked Pope about it, and Mark played alone.

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<v Speaker 4>He talks about the SEC being the best conference in

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<v Speaker 4>college basketball, but the conference is just five hundred since

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<v Speaker 4>conference plays started.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you make of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's been a really disappointing start at the

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<v Speaker 2>conference play. I feel like we should you know, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're not living up to the expectations

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<v Speaker 2>just being at five hundred as a conference, and I just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm kind of looking around at the other

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<v Speaker 2>programs of leading, But like, guys, we got to pick

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<v Speaker 2>this up. This is embarrassing, and so we'll find a way.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in this league. I think we definitely have

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<v Speaker 2>an upside and we're going to work really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>get there.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to know, the best part about that to

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<v Speaker 1>me is that he let it go all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't round it off and say, oh, you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody makes mistakes and we're just kidding around. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>having some fun. He didn't try to qualify it and

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<v Speaker 1>cover his tracks. A lot of people start to feel guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't making fun of any one person in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just having fun with it. And I kept

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for him, you know, to cut it short and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys, we're just kidding something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>he went with the gag all the way through, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did it with that Rye grin on his face,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was just fantastic. So I appreciated that

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<v Speaker 1>probably as much as anything, So tip of the cap

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<v Speaker 1>to Mark Pope for maintaining that sent the humor in

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<v Speaker 1>a very difficult time. By the way, Texas is coming

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<v Speaker 1>in angry. They've lost three straight, destroyed by Alabama, a

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<v Speaker 1>team that can destroy anybody, really, but it's sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>percent from the game seventeen to twenty nine three pointers.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe there are some spots in that Texas defense

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats can exploit from beyond the arc. Be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier with Butler and or Jackson Robinson. Up next,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the UK women. Bottom of the hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbons here on the Big Balloon Sider six point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Boon Sider. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in just a few minutes, Jack Gibbons will prep

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<v Speaker 1>us for Kentucky Texas the men's game, but we'll also

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the gathering the reunion of the seventy five team.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about that all week basically with interviews here

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<v Speaker 1>and there, and of course Jack was such a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of it as a true freshman. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>with Jack about the Final four team of nineteen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>But got to look back at last night's UK women's

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<v Speaker 1>game with Texas. Man, that is a good team Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>That team has split with South Carolina. That tells you

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<v Speaker 1>how good the Lady Longhorns are. And Kentucky held its

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<v Speaker 1>own for a while there, but things started to get

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<v Speaker 1>away by the end of the first half, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the second half it was just really brutal and it

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<v Speaker 1>was all about defense. Really, Kentucky played well defensively, believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. It may not look that way because

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<v Speaker 1>of the final score sixty seven to forty nine, but

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<v Speaker 1>Texas averages eighty four points a game, and the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>held the Longhorns to thirty eight percent shooting for the evening. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst of it was the second quarter, where Texas

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<v Speaker 1>shot fifty three percent, really pounded on the Wildcats. But

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<v Speaker 1>on the other three quarters, the best the long Horns

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<v Speaker 1>could shoot was forty one percent. So Kentucky did a

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<v Speaker 1>really good job most things considered defensively, but Texas smothered

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats in that second quarter. Kentucky shot just twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three percent three out of thirteen, and for the game

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<v Speaker 1>shot thirty four percent. Now, the biggest problem once again

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<v Speaker 1>was offensive rebounds. Wildcats gave up twenty boards to the

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<v Speaker 1>Longhorns and got just five of their own. Tianni Key,

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<v Speaker 1>who's just a warrior, she fought for three offensive rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the team got two, so overall rebounds

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<v Speaker 1>forty five to twenty eight. And again, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinarily huge Kentucky team. There is length in height

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<v Speaker 1>with Strack and Silva, but that's about it. Really, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just about effort and wan and of course two Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 1>best players, not an excuse, but you know they're out

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<v Speaker 1>for the year. They're on the bench, so you knew

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<v Speaker 1>going in this was not going to be an extraordinarily physical,

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<v Speaker 1>banging Kentucky team. But that has been the problem in

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<v Speaker 1>the loss. They come from a head loss to Ole

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<v Speaker 1>Miss and then they just could not compete physically with Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>And again that's just a really, really good ball club.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the night where everybody wore pink and showed

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<v Speaker 1>out for cancer, and there was a particularly moving moment

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<v Speaker 1>prior to the game when Kenny Brooks and his wife

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<v Speaker 1>went to mid court and they announced that his wife

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<v Speaker 1>has been diagnosed as cancer free now she's been battling

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<v Speaker 1>cancer for a while, so that was huge and a

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<v Speaker 1>touching moment, and Kenny talked about that after the game.

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<v Speaker 1>While you know, it was disappointing with the way the

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<v Speaker 1>game turned out, but in terms of the health of

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<v Speaker 1>his wife and the way they've been accepted by the

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<v Speaker 1>community made things really special tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice eye tonight when you know what you've gone through

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<v Speaker 5>and you know how you've gotten through it because of

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<v Speaker 5>other people, and to be able to bring awareness to

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<v Speaker 5>this navity disease, and you know, that's what Vick and

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<v Speaker 5>I talked about. He has a son who he he

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<v Speaker 5>almost lost and nice sight tonight really puts things into perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't do it by yourself, and that you have so

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<v Speaker 5>many people that are helping you. So University Kentucky has

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<v Speaker 5>been great to me. I love it when people come

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<v Speaker 5>up to me and before they even ask me anything

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<v Speaker 5>about basketball, they'll ask me how my wife's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's.

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<v Speaker 5>That means everything, because family families first. Tonight was special.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Shaeffer, the Texas coach, and they've known each other

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<v Speaker 1>and they shared a moment. He and Kenny Brooks after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. So yeah, I didn't know that that Schaeffer

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<v Speaker 1>at the coliseum. And Schaeffer lauded his team's defense because

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<v Speaker 1>cap to JJ Weaver named Jason Witten Collegiate Man of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year. And you know Jason's story. Now, he had

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<v Speaker 1>But more than anything, the way he bounced back after

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<v Speaker 1>and then about a little more than a year later,

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<v Speaker 1>Collegiate Man of the Year. We'll take a break, come

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<v Speaker 1>back and hear from Jack Gibbons in just a minute

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<v Speaker 1>on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moon Side.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joining us on our celebrity hotline as a longtime

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<v Speaker 1>friend and broadcast colleague and a former classmate of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbons, And I mentioned that because we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take Jack before we talk about UK Texas coming up tomorrow. Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about the reunion you guys had

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<v Speaker 1>this past weekend and the reception afterwards, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>so appreciative that you guys allowed me to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. It's so great to see all you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But what did that mean to you? Just having as

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<v Speaker 1>many guys as you couldn't have everybody obviously, but having

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<v Speaker 1>you guys get together. And I can't believe it has

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<v Speaker 1>been fifty years, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, yeah, tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, does where does time go?

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<v Speaker 7>It flies right on by.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, it's always good to get together with those

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<v Speaker 6>with our former teammates and visit, talk about the good

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<v Speaker 6>old days, if you will, and just spend time together.

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<v Speaker 6>And we got we had a lot of time to

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<v Speaker 6>Friday night we got together and had pretty nice reception

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<v Speaker 6>down at the Lexus Room and Reperena. We had a

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<v Speaker 6>really good time. Their families were there and good to

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<v Speaker 6>visit with everybody. And of course Saturday morning we got

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<v Speaker 6>together right before the game. They had a nice set

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<v Speaker 6>up down at Reperena. And you know, for guys who

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of those guys it's been a long long time,

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<v Speaker 6>if ever, to be on the court at rupp Arena,

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<v Speaker 6>because you know, we weren't playing in that building back

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<v Speaker 6>with that team, So for them to be on the

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<v Speaker 6>court and to be recognized by twenty thousand fans who

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<v Speaker 6>were there. It was just a special day for all

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that team played its way through the old Memorial Coliseum.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you and I were working the Pro day broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>which seems like forever ago, I talked that we were

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<v Speaker 1>setting up to some of the current players and I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they had Pro Day in the coliseum, the

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<v Speaker 1>new and improved Historic And I told them, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jack and his first couple of varsity teams

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<v Speaker 1>played the regular season here and they would look around

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<v Speaker 1>like and one of them said, how did they do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, it didn't quite look the same seven

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred. The coliseum was a great home court advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man, it was I think gave it had a

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<v Speaker 7>Rep.

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<v Speaker 6>Aerna hasn't been able to match. I agree and and

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<v Speaker 6>Reperena of course is still a special place for basketball.

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<v Speaker 6>But it was something about the closeness of the fans

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<v Speaker 6>in that building up even though it held only just

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<v Speaker 6>showed of twelve thousand people, it would get extremely loud

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<v Speaker 6>in there.

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<v Speaker 7>It was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just a great place for basketball. Historic place

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<v Speaker 6>for basketball. When you think of all the great players

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<v Speaker 6>who played in their boat for Kentucky and guys who

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<v Speaker 6>came in to play, it just it's made a great

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<v Speaker 6>basketball arena. It was very fun to play in.

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<v Speaker 1>Opposing players would talk about how close that it seemed.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like the crowd was, They said, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like they could reach out and touch us,

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<v Speaker 1>which wasn't really the case, but it felt that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course the ceiling was so much lower

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<v Speaker 1>obviously than it was at Roup Arena, so it trapped

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<v Speaker 1>all that noise in there. And to me, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been inside Cameron Indoor. I've seen it countless times as

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<v Speaker 1>you have on TV. Maybe you've been in there, but

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it was like a bigger version, just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit bigger of Cameron Indoor where it just closes

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<v Speaker 1>in on you. Well, you know, if you're an opposing

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<v Speaker 1>have felt nuts.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, even back in those days, the College

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<v Speaker 6>So even on that kind of scale, it was still

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<v Speaker 6>very special for teams coming in here to play because

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<v Speaker 6>If any other place back then had that many seats,

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, it was. It was still big, and that

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<v Speaker 6>made it more special for teams coming in as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they weren't playing tournaments and football stadiums and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that back then. And then I know when it

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<v Speaker 1>was first Bill Rupp thought it was a white elephant.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll never fill this place. And look at that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Jack Evans, of course about we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Kentucky Texas, but we're talking about the reunion

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<v Speaker 1>of the seventy four to seventy five team. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about with so many of your former teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they're still your teammates, Jack. Was the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys experienced ups and downs. You know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>the super kittens who preceded you, but your freshman year

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<v Speaker 1>you helped this team go to the Final four. But

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<v Speaker 1>the year prior they go thirteen and thirteen and you

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<v Speaker 1>were growing up in election and you heard the fans

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<v Speaker 1>grumbling about Joe b and things like that. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they all stayed together that group and experienced

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<v Speaker 1>all those ups and downs together for four and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even five years it's just something that doesn't sadly doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen today. And we all know how we all feel

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<v Speaker 1>about the one and done's and kids coming and going,

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<v Speaker 1>But that I really believe Jack is what to help

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<v Speaker 1>you guys get to the final four? Or am I crazy?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? No, You're absolutely right. And for myself, Rick Roby,

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Phillips and James Lee who came in along with

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<v Speaker 6>couldn't have been a better way for us to learn.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean we come into a situation where really there's

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<v Speaker 6>no pressure on us, I mean on the freshmen that

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<v Speaker 6>with no pressure pressure, but for those seniors Greevy, uh

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<v Speaker 6>and you know Mike swing Guy, Jimmy dan h Jerry Hall,

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<v Speaker 6>all of those guys, I mean, the pressure was on them.

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<v Speaker 6>We we just came in and enjoyed the ride, which

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<v Speaker 6>which was wonderful for us, uh because we got to

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<v Speaker 6>that every team was going to be like this and

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<v Speaker 6>go to the Final four and uh maybe lose the

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<v Speaker 6>last game, maybe win one. We thought every every game,

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<v Speaker 6>every season, we'd do the same thing. Of course it

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<v Speaker 6>didn't work out that way, but yeah, it was. It

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<v Speaker 6>was a special ride for us throughout the course of

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<v Speaker 6>that season, and uh we we we came close out

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<v Speaker 6>there in San Diego to beating us to LA but

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<v Speaker 6>came up a little short.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we could. We could rehash that one. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was funny to me how at least two more

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<v Speaker 1>players told me because Bob guy Hada told me some

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<v Speaker 1>time ago that he had encountered John Wooden, but more

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<v Speaker 1>than one former Wildcat had had the chance to respectfully

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<v Speaker 1>tell the coach, you know, we really believe that if

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<v Speaker 1>you had to announced your retirement, we would have won,

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<v Speaker 1>and coach wouldn't in his scholarly way, explained how, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have won anyway. But what do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>him to say. But you know, you mentioned Jack that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't feel pressure, but it was pretty clear that

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<v Speaker 1>the team needed the size that Rick and Mike and

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<v Speaker 1>even Danny brought, and needed the scoring that you brought,

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<v Speaker 1>and you had some big games down the stretch. But

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<v Speaker 1>were you able to just deal with that because the

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I mean, you know, having to go against

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<v Speaker 6>Kevin Greevy every day in practice. Man, there is no

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<v Speaker 6>better way to learn because greeb was just an offensive man.

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<v Speaker 6>He was he could score and put just a machine,

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<v Speaker 6>could put points on the board. And I had to

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<v Speaker 6>defend him every day in practice. And he didn't take

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<v Speaker 6>it easy on me. He made me work and made

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<v Speaker 6>me learn the right way to play. But there were

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of guys on the team that did the

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<v Speaker 6>had minutes where we could where we could play and

422
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<v Speaker 6>show what we could do. But yeah, and there were

423
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<v Speaker 6>times when the size Rick Roby brought going against Kent

424
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<v Speaker 6>Benson and Mitch Cupcheck and all those other big throughout

425
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<v Speaker 6>the SBC, Leon Douglas down at Alabama, I mean, yeah, yeah,

426
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<v Speaker 6>that size was needed Rick and Mike brought. And you're right,

427
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<v Speaker 6>we don't get to where we got without our contributions.

428
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<v Speaker 6>But still it was pretty easy, Gabe, because we just

429
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<v Speaker 6>you know, Coach All put us in the game we

430
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<v Speaker 6>played and if we Fortunately we didn't lose very often,

431
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<v Speaker 6>but if we lose, if we lost the game, all

432
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<v Speaker 6>of the attention went to those seniors and to Coach All.

433
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<v Speaker 7>It was no blamed on not.

434
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<v Speaker 1>That's right, before I shift your attention to Kentucky's game tomorrow.

435
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<v Speaker 1>I got to Ask as a freshman, and I talked

436
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<v Speaker 1>to some of the veterans of Jimmy Dan and to

437
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<v Speaker 1>Mike and about the fact that it's now famous. Daryl

438
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<v Speaker 1>Bird wrote a great story about this for the Cash Pause,

439
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<v Speaker 1>about how prior to the Indiana game, when you guys

440
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<v Speaker 1>upset them in the regional final after having lost by

441
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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, Joe b the last thing he told you guys,

442
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<v Speaker 1>he went through it. He put up some notes on

443
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<v Speaker 1>the chalkboard that was an old fashioned chalkboard back then,

444
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<v Speaker 1>not a dry race, and he basically was giving you

445
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<v Speaker 1>guys instructions about the postgame celebration.

446
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<v Speaker 7>You know.

447
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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't last minute strategy about x'es and o's. It

448
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<v Speaker 1>was like, here's what we're going to do after we win.

449
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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember seeing that and what your reaction was?

450
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't remember specifically all the four points he made,

451
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<v Speaker 6>but the last one was was and he was he

452
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<v Speaker 6>was one hundred percent serious.

453
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<v Speaker 7>Man.

454
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<v Speaker 6>He said, now, listen, guys, when you go up on

455
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<v Speaker 6>that ladder and you cut the net, just be careful

456
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<v Speaker 6>not to cut your finger with the physics, you know,

457
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:46.200
<v Speaker 6>he said, make sure you're careful because we don't want

458
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<v Speaker 6>anybody getting hurt out there.

459
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<v Speaker 7>And hold on to that ladder. I mean.

460
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<v Speaker 6>He went through everyone and he made specific points about

461
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<v Speaker 6>how we were gonna and we sat there like, man,

462
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<v Speaker 6>this is the he's preaching the gospel. Man, listen because

463
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 6>this is serious. And uh, yeah, it was fun. It

464
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 6>was fun going through that and thinking back on it

465
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 6>and just saying, mankind the heck did he know this

466
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<v Speaker 6>was gonna happen?

467
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<v Speaker 7>But it was.

468
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<v Speaker 6>It was another great job by coach Hog making sure

469
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.799
<v Speaker 6>we were ready to play. The Other thing he said

470
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<v Speaker 6>uh in that game was uh. He said, Now the

471
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<v Speaker 6>first time Indiana said an illegal scream the very first time.

472
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<v Speaker 6>And you tell the officials this when we go into

473
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 6>the huddle before the game, you captains, you tell them

474
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<v Speaker 6>the first time there's an illegal screen with an elbow

475
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:46.680
<v Speaker 6>high up in the throat area, there's going to be

476
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 6>a fight.

477
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 7>We're gonna fight.

478
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 6>Was dropping the ball and we're fighting right now, and

479
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 6>and and and and the captains Jimmy Dan and uh

480
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.920
<v Speaker 6>Mike Flynn, they went out there, man, and they told

481
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<v Speaker 6>and told the referees, and refee says, no, don't start

482
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 6>talking that stuff now. We don't want to hear that.

483
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<v Speaker 7>This is a game. And you know all of this, man.

484
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<v Speaker 6>But the first time it happened, and that's the way

485
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 6>Indiana ran thereof right, with illegal screens and high elbows

486
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 6>that hit you in the face or if you're lucky,

487
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.720
<v Speaker 6>it'd hit you in their throat or your chest. Man,

488
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 6>the very first time, guyet Bob Guyette, I think it

489
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 6>was locked up somebody, man, and they went down. And

490
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, but that's the last time the officials let

491
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<v Speaker 6>that happen without calling the fouls exact. Coach Hall did

492
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 6>a great job coaching that game.

493
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<v Speaker 1>He did, and because he always said that Bob Knight's

494
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>offense was predicated on a series of illegal screens. And yeah,

495
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 1>that took. Now, there was a little dust uff towards

496
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the end, and James Lee, I can still see him

497
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>sprinting the distance the length of the course before people

498
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.279
<v Speaker 1>got ejected for coming off the bench. But some I

499
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 1>think Jimmy Dan may have locked up with somebody or

500
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 1>somebody you you correct me, and and James went down

501
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 1>to be the enforcer. That was a highlight.

502
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, James. James could do that. If you

503
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 6>came running down there and they saw me, Come on,

504
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.480
<v Speaker 6>come on, Jack, come on man, Yeah you can do it.

505
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 7>James comes. If James comes.

506
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.000
<v Speaker 6>Running at you, man, you go duck and go the

507
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 6>other way. Got that, so yeah, you know, but it

508
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 6>was that kind of game. It was an awesome game

509
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 6>to be part of.

510
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<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbans is my guess. We'll come back and talk

511
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Texas after the break here on six thirty w

512
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<v Speaker 1>l A P. Welcome back to the Big Blue Sider.

513
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Jack Gibins. He is Tom Leach's broadcast partner,

514
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 1>as you know, and he'll call the action as the

515
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats take on the long Horns tomorrow. Before I talk

516
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<v Speaker 1>about that brand of orange that shade. Uh, nothing makes

517
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 1>me happier, Jack. Then Kentucky went over Tennessee being basketball

518
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>or football, which you're rare. I know because two of

519
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 1>my good buddies on the broadcast sides of things, Jeffer

520
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Corro who played back before the Louisville series, and mister

521
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbons same. Your favorite thing in the world when

522
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the wackas is beating Tennessee. So I

523
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>know how happy you were the other night. You just

524
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<v Speaker 1>you had to be overjoyed by that effort.

525
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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, oh man, it was. It was just an

526
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 6>unbelievable win. And uh, you know, it's one of those

527
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:28.599
<v Speaker 6>games that you you you just know that you better

528
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 6>be ready to play because Tennessee is Tennessee, and it

529
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<v Speaker 6>was just really really nice to see Kentucky uh come

530
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<v Speaker 6>out and accept the challenge. Uh, you know, they had

531
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<v Speaker 6>beaten We had beaten Tennessee down in Knoxville, so you know,

532
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<v Speaker 6>Tennessee wanted to come in and try to make an

533
00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 6>example out of Kentucky and beat them on their home floor.

534
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 6>We knew that that was part of it, but we

535
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 6>accepted it. And again we got out to a great start,

536
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 6>which I thought was hugely important because you didn't want

537
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 6>to try to fight behind, fight from behind to get

538
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 6>back in the game, give them a chance to get going.

539
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky didn't allow them to get going. And really defended

540
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 6>them as well as I mean, I don't want to

541
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 6>say as well as we could play defense, because there's

542
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 6>still room for improvements, but many they really jumped on

543
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 6>them and played well, and down the stretch of the

544
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 6>game when Lamont went down, you saw guys step out

545
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 6>of their comfort zone, if you will, gave and give

546
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky some stuff that they haven't given them all year.

547
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 6>Otaga Olway kind of star guarding the offense for what

548
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 6>I think is the first time. I know he's probably

549
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 6>been in there for a player or two, but he

550
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 6>defended well. It's such a luxury to have Amari Williams

551
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 6>be able to bring the ball down the floor because

552
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 6>Tennessee is very good defensively at the guard spots. You

553
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 6>don't want to bring the try to bring the ball

554
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 6>up the floor with a guy like or take away

555
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 6>against Ziggy. You know they they we just down the stretch,

556
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 6>stayed tough and figured out a way to win a

557
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 6>game through playing with a lot of heart.

558
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<v Speaker 1>I think you guys will break down the Cats and

559
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the Longhorns in depth tomorrow on the broadcast, But I

560
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 1>guess when we look ahead to this game and going

561
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>on the road, and you know the circus is coming

562
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to town. It's Kentucky's first trip to Austin since an

563
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>NCAA tournament, appears, first time playing against the Longhorns. But

564
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna take more of the same. And we

565
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 1>don't yet know as we speak if Butler is gonna play.

566
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.799
<v Speaker 1>We know there's no Jackson Robinson. But they have to

567
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 1>keep straying from the comfort zone, don't they jack To

568
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>win games like this?

569
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, you know again. You're gonna have to have

570
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.000
<v Speaker 6>guys do stuff that they haven't done all season long.

571
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 6>You're gonna have to have Kobe Brea, Yes, get the

572
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 6>ball along the wing and just say, I don't care

573
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 6>if you are Tennessee's best defensive player and may shock,

574
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't care. I'm just gonna catch the ball, Duke

575
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.119
<v Speaker 6>and jive a little bit and I'm gonna pull up

576
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 6>and shoot it in your faith. And that's something he

577
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 6>hadn't done much. I'd like to see him do a

578
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 6>lot more than that. You're gonna have to have Angeley

579
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 6>almanor Uh put the ball on the floor, take a

580
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 6>chance and make up big three point play the old

581
00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:00.480
<v Speaker 6>fashioned way by creating a shot for yourself and and

582
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 6>and getting fouled in the act, and you're gonna have

583
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 6>to have that tomorrow. You gonna you're gonna have to

584
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 6>have them take it away, handle the ball more, and

585
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 6>bring it up the floor against against some pressure, all

586
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 6>of those things that these guys haven't had to do

587
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 6>this year. We're gonna have to have it tomorrow. I mean,

588
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 6>that's just no other way to win that kind of game.

589
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll let you go with this. And again I

590
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>heard you talking to Tom about it yesterday and on

591
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the broadcast as well. But uh, you were a local kid.

592
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>The two local kids had huge games, you know, collectively

593
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 1>six of eight, Noah and Perry. And you know, people

594
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 1>like to say, well, they're not freshman anymore, but yeah

595
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>they are because they're going through all of this for

596
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the first time. And now they're going on the road

597
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>once again in the SEC and it's down the stretch.

598
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 1>It's the grind now, trying to get into the postseason.

599
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's so much fun seeing these kids and seeing

600
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the way Pope has brought them along, isn't it.

601
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:56.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

602
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it's Mark and his staff. I have

603
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 6>handled these young guys pretty brilliantly. If you really think

604
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 6>about it, I mean, where they were early in the

605
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:12.400
<v Speaker 6>season to where they are now. In a lot of ways,

606
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.679
<v Speaker 6>it's like night and day. And even if you think

607
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 6>only about the confidence these guys play with, both of

608
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 6>them play wet, even if you just look at that

609
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 6>one area, and there's plenty of more to look at.

610
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<v Speaker 6>But man, I mean, you got to say this, He's

611
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 6>brought these guys along for time, just like this. And yeah,

612
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 6>injuries have helped get them more time and all of.

613
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 7>That kind of stuff.

614
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<v Speaker 6>But you can get time and not be ready. That'd

615
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 6>be the last time you can. But these guys, these

616
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 6>guys were ready for the challenge, and they've really proven

617
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 6>themselves to be very, very valuable and they will continue

618
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 6>to be. And yes, they are still freshmen because we

619
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<v Speaker 6>saw last year with a couple of pretty good players

620
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 6>read Shepherd and Rob billing him what late in the

621
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 6>season means and how yes, you are still still freshman

622
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 6>because those two guys, as good as they were, they

623
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 6>struggled in the SEC tournament, they struggled in the NCAA tournament.

624
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<v Speaker 6>And until you get through that the for at least

625
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 6>one time, you truly are still a freshman.

626
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it just it wears on you. But that's

627
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>all part of it and that's why experience. Yeah, he's off,

628
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 1>so it really is. He is Jack GIBBNS. He is

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach Broadcast Partners, the All American and by the way,

630
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<v Speaker 1>rated by a panel of experts as the greatest high

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<v Speaker 1>school player to come out of Lexion. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that was a humbling experience for you, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Ah Man, I gave you look at some of the

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<v Speaker 6>names on that list and which I did, and I

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<v Speaker 6>shake my head and say.

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<v Speaker 7>How nick heck did they put me first?

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<v Speaker 6>When you think about some of these other guys who

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<v Speaker 6>came through here, and uh, some who weren't even on

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<v Speaker 6>the list were really really good players.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 6>I was very humbled by that and honored to be

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<v Speaker 6>in that position and to represent so many great athletes,

643
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<v Speaker 6>so many great basketball players who played uh in Lexington

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<v Speaker 6>and uh, well I just was blown away by being

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<v Speaker 6>chosen in that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what. I was one of the voters,

647
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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was fun to go back, but

648
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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard to to you know, compare eras, but

649
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<v Speaker 1>you know, it did take me back quite away. You know,

650
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<v Speaker 1>the guy that didn't see play like Steve Chandler and

651
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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Mullins and guys like that. But you know those things,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're fun. But you could you could argue that

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks and weeks, couldn't you?

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<v Speaker 6>But oh, I was.

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<v Speaker 7>Happy for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, brother, have a great broadcast. We'll be listening.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks, Gabe, appreciate it.

658
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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love how tickled Jack gets when a guy

660
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<v Speaker 1>like Kobe Brayer, Trendo or somebody finds an open shot

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<v Speaker 1>and takes it. Jack being in a shooter that he

662
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<v Speaker 1>was and always will be, enjoys that, know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're having a chance to listen to him

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<v Speaker 1>on the broadcast and you can sync it up with

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<v Speaker 1>your TV. Takes a little doing, but I love doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Coming up our number two, Tom Hammond's going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us. We talk with Tom Gosh a few

668
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<v Speaker 1>months ago, just before his book came out, and so

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<v Speaker 1>now we're going to talk to Tom about not just

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<v Speaker 1>how the book has been received, but also he was

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<v Speaker 1>part of that get together with the seventy five team.

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<v Speaker 1>I was invited, so is Tom. So we'll get his

673
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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that and on this current Kentucky team with

674
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 1>lots to talk about with Tom Hammond, and we'll talk

675
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>about last night's Kentucky women's game with Jenna Liftin of

676
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<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky Colonel. That's all ahead here six thirty WLAP.

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<v Speaker 9>Any such such such tact stating the singing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Bill insider joining us now

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<v Speaker 1>is a longtime friend and an absolute mentor to many

680
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<v Speaker 1>of us. Tom Hammond legendary sportscaster, you know, as we're

681
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<v Speaker 1>from WLX here in Lexington for several years, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest time NBC Sports, the NFL, the NBA, college basketball,

683
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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, and of course his book is now Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. Last time you and I talked was right

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<v Speaker 1>before the book was released and now Races Games and

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Dreams of Sportscasters Life is out. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>it via Amazon and in bookstores everywhere. How's it doing well?

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<v Speaker 8>It's doing well as far as I know. Dick Mark's story,

689
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 8>my co author and I have been around the state

690
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 8>doing some signings and giving a little program about the

691
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<v Speaker 8>book and how we came to write it, and the

692
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 8>reception has been good. Now, I always I have a

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<v Speaker 8>caveat that. I don't think anybody's going to walk up

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<v Speaker 8>to me and say this book is terrible, So it

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<v Speaker 8>might not be the best sample of how it's received,

696
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<v Speaker 8>but so far it's been very, very fuss you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something. And we were all sitting around telling stories

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<v Speaker 1>the other day at the reception for the seventy five team,

699
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<v Speaker 1>and somebody brought up Jack Sutherland. I learned that from

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<v Speaker 1>Jock very early. He was a real mentor of mine

701
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<v Speaker 1>as well, and he said, you know, he saw somebody

702
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<v Speaker 1>recognize me, and he said, you know, they don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you when they don't like you.

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<v Speaker 8>So now I think in the age of social media,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, people can get on there and write whatever

706
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<v Speaker 8>they want and with no accountability, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Luck that's true when they do come up and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I got to think most people do they

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00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>hit you with the personal story about something that you

710
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>said or did, or something they heard you said. It

711
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>really meant a lot to them. Do you hear a

712
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:34.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of that?

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00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>I do a lot. And I also have heard a

715
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<v Speaker 8>lot of people saying to me, oh, I didn't know

716
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 8>that about you. They're learning different to different parts of

717
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 8>me and to be honest, it's a little scary to

718
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:51.079
<v Speaker 8>put all those things about your life, yourself out there

719
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<v Speaker 8>that you've never really talked about before for everybody to know.

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<v Speaker 8>So I've kind of gotten used to it by now,

721
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<v Speaker 8>but at first it was a little frightening to do that.

722
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<v Speaker 8>But people, a lot of people said they had learned

723
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<v Speaker 8>some things about me. And you know, people also notice

724
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 8>of my affection for Lexington and supper Kentucky that comes

725
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<v Speaker 8>through the book and what I say in the book tick,

726
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:17.400
<v Speaker 8>which I really have felt my whole career, my whole life,

727
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<v Speaker 8>is that the best thing that ever happens to me

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<v Speaker 8>is when a total stranger comes up to me and says,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a Kentuckian and I just want you to know

730
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<v Speaker 8>you make us proud. And it doesn't get any better

731
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<v Speaker 8>than that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so great. And I had somebody tell me a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago, got in our business, when you start

734
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<v Speaker 1>to move, he said, it seems like you never stop.

735
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<v Speaker 1>And I've only made a couple of moves in my life,

736
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<v Speaker 1>you know, lexing into Dallas, back to Lexing, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was fortunate, and I know how much it means to

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<v Speaker 1>you to be able to kind of keep this as

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<v Speaker 1>your home base. You literally traveled the world doing your job,

740
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<v Speaker 1>but you could always come.

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<v Speaker 8>Home to Lection and exactly, and one of the great

742
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.719
<v Speaker 8>moments is when you return, you fly over at Farman,

743
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<v Speaker 8>you see that again and you know you're home. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I was so lucky, Dick, that I was not able

745
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<v Speaker 8>to have to play the TV game where you bounce

746
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<v Speaker 8>from one bigger market to the next trying to advance.

747
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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to stay in Lexington, you know, because I

748
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 8>love it, because I liked the horses and you know,

749
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.920
<v Speaker 8>all the things about it. And I was so lucky

750
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<v Speaker 8>that Harry Barfield, who was the general manager of w

751
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<v Speaker 8>LA TV, let me supplement my income at the TV station,

752
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 8>first of all by working at the Keenland sales as

753
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<v Speaker 8>the announcer, and then at other sales around the country,

754
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<v Speaker 8>so I didn't have to move. I was able to

755
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.039
<v Speaker 8>stay here, which is what I always wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 8>And when I worked for the network, people would say,

757
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:44.480
<v Speaker 8>oh my gosh, you know, travel must be awful. I said, well,

758
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<v Speaker 8>I have to make the connection. Usually that's the only

759
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<v Speaker 8>price I have to pay, and that's a small price

760
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.480
<v Speaker 8>to pay to still live in Lexington. So I did

761
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<v Speaker 8>have to make lots of connections. But to me that

762
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 8>was no big deal. And my six million Delta miles

763
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<v Speaker 8>can attend to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was fortunate too, because not nearly at the

766
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<v Speaker 1>scale that you had. But I I've picked up some

767
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>freelance work through my career and Ralph Gabbard let me

768
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<v Speaker 1>do it, you know, I said, as long as it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't interfere with your duties as a sports manager at

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<v Speaker 1>k y T. Yeah, go ahead, you know, and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, job well done. It's a reward and

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was fortunate too. But yeah, I envy you. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had a chance to work the Olympics. I

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to do it at least once.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the majesty, the grandeur, the splendor, all of that

777
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 1>really appealed to me. I got to think that when

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<v Speaker 1>you first started doing that, was it overwhelming at all?

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<v Speaker 8>It was a little daunting to start with.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a bit intimidating.

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<v Speaker 8>Because it's it's something the whole world is watching. Yeah,

782
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 8>when you get there, you realize the whole world is here. Yeah,

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00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 8>and it's it's just such such a big deal and

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<v Speaker 8>it's the one one of the things that the world

785
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<v Speaker 8>usually agrees on and let's watch the Olympics. They want

786
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 8>different people to win, of course, but they think that

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<v Speaker 8>the Olympics are important enough to take time out of

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<v Speaker 8>their days to watch. And my first Olympics was this

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<v Speaker 8>sound so long ago now, was nineteen eighty eight in Seoul,

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<v Speaker 8>South Korea. And originally I was slated to do a

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<v Speaker 8>questrian events and Michael Weisman was executive producer at NBC,

792
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 8>the man that hired me at NBC. And I said,

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<v Speaker 8>that's great time, I'd love to do it. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know anything about a question that I know about horses

795
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<v Speaker 8>and horse racing a little bit, but about a question

796
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<v Speaker 8>I don't know much, but I'll be fine and so

797
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<v Speaker 8>lo and behold a little while later he changed my mind.

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<v Speaker 8>He said, I want you to do men's and women's

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<v Speaker 8>basketball and with Al McGuire, And my gosh, you could

800
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.519
<v Speaker 8>afford me to knocked me over with a feather then,

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<v Speaker 8>So what a compliment it was, and what an assignment

802
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<v Speaker 8>it was, and what a lifelong memory as it was.

803
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<v Speaker 8>And Il maguire one of the great characters of American sports.

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<v Speaker 8>There's no never been anybody like him, a unique individual,

805
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<v Speaker 8>and and we we just had such a great time.

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<v Speaker 8>In fact, for years afterwards, Dick that back in the

807
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<v Speaker 8>days of answering machines, he would call my answering machine

808
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 8>and he said, Tommy, baby, just want to tell you

809
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 8>I love you, and he'd hang up. I want to

810
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 8>tell you I love you. That would be his message.

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<v Speaker 8>So and then Dick Ever saw when he took over

812
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<v Speaker 8>NBC Sports as the chairman, had me branching out into

813
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<v Speaker 8>things I'd never considered before. In fact, that I tell

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<v Speaker 8>the story that I'd done an NBA playoff game in

815
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 8>Boston the Celtics and the Pacers on Sunday and throw

816
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:47.400
<v Speaker 8>him back home. And a Monday morning, ever Spell called.

817
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 8>I said, oh my gosh, what did I do wrong?

818
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 8>Oh gosh? And he so I answered, and he said, well,

819
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 8>good job in the game yesterday. What do you know

820
00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 8>about track and field? And I said, if I had

821
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<v Speaker 8>been to a track meter two in my life, but

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<v Speaker 8>I really don't know much about it. Well, you'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 8>And that was my introduction to doing track and field.

824
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<v Speaker 8>And that's that's the sport that I did most of

825
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.440
<v Speaker 8>all of the Olympics. I also did some gymnastics and

826
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 8>some diving, and in the Summer Games. But the track

827
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<v Speaker 8>and field was my main and to me that was

828
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<v Speaker 8>such a confident once I learned.

829
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<v Speaker 7>My way around.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, that was such a compliment because to me, that's

831
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<v Speaker 8>the heart and soul of the Olympics. In fact that

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<v Speaker 8>I think the one hundred meters dash is always the

833
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 8>marquee event of the of the Summer Games. It's also

834
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<v Speaker 8>the most difficult thing I did in all my entire.

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<v Speaker 1>Career, no doubt. And yet Tom, you got it right

836
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 1>each time you didn't stumble, you got the right I mean,

837
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<v Speaker 1>and you talk about pressure, We put pressure on ourselves,

838
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 1>but it was just magnified because of the enormity of

839
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<v Speaker 1>the event, the audience, the setting, and your years of

840
00:48:56.239 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>experience came through. You were prepared and that's everything, isn't it.

841
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 8>Well, you're You're nice to say that, Dick, and you're right.

842
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 8>I always thought there's no if you've prepared, done your homework,

843
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 8>and then all you can do no sense being nervous.

844
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 8>You're prepared and with the one hundred meters dashes over

845
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.159
<v Speaker 8>in nine seconds and there's no margin for error, so

846
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 8>either you get it right or you don't and knock

847
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 8>on wood. Still, Luckily I never got it, never got

848
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:26.199
<v Speaker 8>it wrong, and they did get it wrong at the

849
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 8>Paris Olympics, which is embarrassing.

850
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking to Tom Hammond, of course, legendary sports

851
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>caster and now a co author of Tom Hammond Races,

852
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Games and Olympic Dreams, a book that he wrote with

853
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 1>our buddy Mark's Story from the Herald Leader and a

854
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 1>collection of great anecdote stories. And I thought about that,

855
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Tom when we were sitting together at a table at

856
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the reception for the seventy five team after last Saturday's game.

857
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And I was very appreciative of being invited to join

858
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>those guys, as I'm sure you were. But it was

859
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun at the end when people began to

860
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>ask you questions about you know, what was your favorite

861
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>this or how did you end up doing that? And uh,

862
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, they they sat and took it all in

863
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 1>as you shared with them somebody the experience especially, I

864
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:17.800
<v Speaker 1>think they appreciated you're a McGuire stories. I mean that guy.

865
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I think I worked his very

866
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>first game when he was working on a green screen.

867
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>It was before you joined the network over at Freedom Hall.

868
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 1>His very first game, he was under the stands in

869
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 1>a small room with a monitor and they would I

870
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:36.519
<v Speaker 1>think Enburg was doing the game with Packer and they

871
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>would bring him in once in a while. And it

872
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.280
<v Speaker 1>was right after that game Billy Packer said, we need

873
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Al out here with us at the table, and and

874
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>and a career was born. So yeah, I happened just

875
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 1>to be a witness to that.

876
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, you know, of course the greatest threesome in

877
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.639
<v Speaker 8>sports broadcasting was you know, Edburg McGuire and Packer.

878
00:50:57.840 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

879
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 8>I think Enburg was my mentor and my friend, and

880
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.239
<v Speaker 8>uh we just had that the national connection, natural connection

881
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 8>that can move on to the Al I think appreciated

882
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 8>how much Dick cared for me and liked me, so

883
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 8>that made our transition easy when when Al became my partner.

884
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.519
<v Speaker 8>We did some college games, and we did some exhibition

885
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 8>games the US Olympic team against various teams before we

886
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 8>went to the Olympics, and then we were in Soul

887
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.039
<v Speaker 8>for a month together. And then as I said, after

888
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 8>we even did a couple of NBA games. Afterwards, the

889
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:32.119
<v Speaker 8>NBC decided they didn't really like him on the NBA,

890
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:37.079
<v Speaker 8>but uh, it was just as I say, a unique

891
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 8>individual and frugal and we ate the employee cafeterias, and

892
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.599
<v Speaker 8>lots of times when we were traveling he said, he

893
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 8>put it up hot sauce, honey, and then it stays

894
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 8>all right. And he was just he was, just like

895
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.199
<v Speaker 8>I say, a unique American sports character and would never

896
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 8>be another liking. And I was lucky to work with

897
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 8>another one too, Dick in the Bill Walton another extent,

898
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.119
<v Speaker 8>you know, individual that will never reduplicated. And how lucky

899
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 8>was that to work with two individuals like that.

900
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Something you and Dick Enburg have in common, and really

901
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all the greats do, is that you knew and still

902
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.639
<v Speaker 1>know how to as we stay in the business, let

903
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it breathe. You know, you knew when to talk and

904
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.280
<v Speaker 1>when to not talk, which is just as important oftentimes

905
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 1>which was big for Enburg working with McGuire and Packer,

906
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.480
<v Speaker 1>but also in your case as well. Letting the moment

907
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 1>have its moment, you know. And too often now I

908
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like people in our business they feel like they

909
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>get paid by the word that they have to be

910
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:44.800
<v Speaker 1>yammering on when there's times, especially in television, just let

911
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:45.719
<v Speaker 1>it breathe.

912
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 8>Right, Oh, absolutely, Dick, and your right. That's in the

913
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.199
<v Speaker 8>stud observation on your part, because I don't think many

914
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.079
<v Speaker 8>understand that these days, and I do know that there

915
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 8>are two hundred different channels to choose from, so they

916
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.719
<v Speaker 8>feel like they have to, you know, distinguish themselves or

917
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 8>make themselves stand out. But to me, that's the absolute

918
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.000
<v Speaker 8>wrong approach, and that I was famous at NBC for

919
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 8>the hand if there was a dramatic moment that I

920
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:16.000
<v Speaker 8>thought deserved to be emphasized to my partners, I just

921
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 8>held the hand up, like, don't say anything, don't say anything.

922
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 8>And the first time they got that hand they didn't

923
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 8>quite know what to do. But after a while they

924
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 8>became used to it. And you know, as you say,

925
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.599
<v Speaker 8>let the moment breathe at the network, that you have

926
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:34.639
<v Speaker 8>such talented cameramen and directors that the story, the picture

927
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 8>is going to tell the story much better than anything

928
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.519
<v Speaker 8>I can say. I can only detract from the moment

929
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 8>really by trying to put it into words when you

930
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.119
<v Speaker 8>can see it on television. So I guess one of

931
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 8>the most famous instances when I did that, gave the

932
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 8>hand out in this case to Randy mass and to

933
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.960
<v Speaker 8>Jerry Bailey, was when American Pharaoh won the Teerful Crime

934
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.639
<v Speaker 8>and as he crossed the finish line and Larry Cole

935
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:06.480
<v Speaker 8>was to call the race, says, the thirty seven years

936
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.440
<v Speaker 8>route is over. American Pharaoh has won the Driple crown.

937
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 8>And people were going crazy, absolute not standing on tables

938
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.480
<v Speaker 8>and chairs, throwing things in the air. And I just

939
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 8>held my hand up to Jerry and Randy. They didn't

940
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.239
<v Speaker 8>know quite they didn't know quite how to take it,

941
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.440
<v Speaker 8>and they were just chomping to say something, to say something,

942
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.519
<v Speaker 8>and no let And for almost a minute, I think

943
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 8>I didn't say anything because the scenes that that that

944
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 8>threw wessic off, our Hall of Fame director was getting

945
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:34.000
<v Speaker 8>told the story. I didn't need to say anything, and

946
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:36.639
<v Speaker 8>and I was. I was proud of that moment in here.

947
00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.079
<v Speaker 8>I didn't say a word. So maybe the best thing

948
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 8>I did in my whole career was not say anything.

949
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Excellent. Well, I was watching and yeah, and then I

950
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:46.639
<v Speaker 1>was at a wedding reception. I was in the bar.

951
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I ran down to the bar just to watch, and

952
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>then I went back upstairs to everybody who was partying

953
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and dancing, and as soon as there was a lull,

954
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I yelled American Pharaoh was one, you know, and got

955
00:54:57.719 --> 00:54:59.599
<v Speaker 1>an round of a plot wasn't for me. Of course,

956
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hammond is my guest. We'll come back and talk

957
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more with an engineery sportscaster in just

958
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 1>a minute here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're

959
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.400
<v Speaker 1>talking with Tom Hammond, legendary sportscaster and the author of

960
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hammond Races Games and Olympic Dreams, which he co

961
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 1>wrote with Mark's Story of the Hero Leader. Real quickly,

962
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, you and I were invited to the

963
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.920
<v Speaker 1>post game reception with a seventy five team. That meant

964
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot to me. I'm sure it did to you

965
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>as well. But what were your memories of that team,

966
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 1>because those guys were so much fun to cover, given

967
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 1>everything they went through from their freshman year through their

968
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 1>senior seasons.

969
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.480
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they were a fun team to cover because they

970
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.360
<v Speaker 8>seemed to enjoy the game, the Twin Towers and the

971
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:43.800
<v Speaker 8>whole group of them, and of course Jack Gibbons a

972
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 8>youngster then, and it was a delight And I was,

973
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:51.400
<v Speaker 8>like you, flattered that they would remember us and invite

974
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.519
<v Speaker 8>us to be there. Because I was working at WAXTV then,

975
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 8>I was not broadcasting the games. I was just sitting

976
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 8>on the sideline with my little sixteen millimere cameraually. But

977
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:05.159
<v Speaker 8>you remember when when Bobby Knight slapped Jovi Hall up

978
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 8>on the back of the head, and then when they

979
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.920
<v Speaker 8>met again in the NCAA turn, I've got to go

980
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:14.000
<v Speaker 8>to the game, and I did, and after the game,

981
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 8>I said, I'm going to San Diego. I just can't.

982
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 8>I can't stay away. I've got to watch the team

983
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.880
<v Speaker 8>because they've developed into something special and on a mission.

984
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:25.320
<v Speaker 8>And of course, low and behold, John Wooden announces his

985
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.519
<v Speaker 8>retirement and nobody was going to beat him that in

986
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 8>that championship game. But it was a wonderful experience. And

987
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 8>like you say, it was wonderful too for them to

988
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:37.639
<v Speaker 8>remember us and to invite us back.

989
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 1>And you know, they experienced so much as starting off

990
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 1>as the super Kittens and everybody thought, oh, three straight

991
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 1>national titles and they went an SEC title for joe

992
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>By and then they struggled through that thirteen and thirteen year,

993
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 1>which was my first year, not to date you, but

994
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.760
<v Speaker 1>my first year at UK, and I'm like, wait a minute,

995
00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 1>this is UK basketball and they're losing as much as

996
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>they're winning. That was a story in and of itself.

997
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.599
<v Speaker 8>Wasn't it when they were so Yeah, when they were

998
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 8>so highly hearted to start with? And you know, I

999
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 8>wondered throughout my career and all the different sports I've covered,

1000
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:16.159
<v Speaker 8>one thing I've learned is that the greatest obstacle to

1001
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 8>overcome really is the pressure of expectations. And that really

1002
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 8>inhibits people a time, athletes, and you can understand why.

1003
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.079
<v Speaker 8>But the pressure of expectations I think might have been

1004
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:31.960
<v Speaker 8>a factor in their struggles and then probably in their

1005
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 8>determination to succeed, which they eventually did to overcome those troubles.

1006
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:40.320
<v Speaker 8>But one thing I learned in all those different sports

1007
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:44.800
<v Speaker 8>is man, the pressure to succeed when it's expected of

1008
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 8>you is really difficult to overcome.

1009
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and now it may be worse than ever

1010
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>because of social media. I don't know how much of

1011
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the business you miss, but the fact that you don't

1012
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with it that much, if at all, that's.

1013
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 8>As, isn't it when it's when it it was just

1014
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 8>coming in of course when I when I finally retired, yeah,

1015
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:11.639
<v Speaker 8>it was starting to be really established, and I said

1016
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:13.760
<v Speaker 8>to my partners, I said, you know, this is the

1017
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.599
<v Speaker 8>work of the devil. This is this, this is going

1018
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:20.239
<v Speaker 8>to be Uh, it's going to change the whole landscape,

1019
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 8>and of course it has. And and my philosophy was

1020
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.480
<v Speaker 8>and is that you just can't listen to it. You

1021
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:28.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, whether you did a good job or not.

1022
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:30.760
<v Speaker 8>I knew if I did a poor job or could

1023
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:32.880
<v Speaker 8>have done better, and I knew when I knocked it

1024
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 8>out of the park, and so, uh, you just have

1025
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.400
<v Speaker 8>to depend on your instincts and your knowledge and your

1026
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:42.960
<v Speaker 8>preparation and not listen to all the noise or outside

1027
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 8>noise because and that and that includes don't listen to

1028
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 8>all the paths on the back either all the time,

1029
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.559
<v Speaker 8>because you can go that way as well. So you

1030
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 8>just have to tune it all out and rely on

1031
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 8>your own instincts to tell you whether you did a

1032
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.599
<v Speaker 8>good job or what you need to do better at well.

1033
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Tom All, always a pleasure talking with you, and keep

1034
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.119
<v Speaker 1>us posted on the book's progress. And I do appreciate

1035
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>all the help you gave me through the years, just

1036
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>treating me with respect when I was a kid, you know,

1037
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.599
<v Speaker 1>and you were an established broadcaster, but that's important to

1038
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:18.079
<v Speaker 1>young people and I try to remember that now as

1039
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting up in years. So thanks so much. Always

1040
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:21.679
<v Speaker 1>great talking to you.

1041
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.079
<v Speaker 8>Thank you, Dick, Thank you, and I've enjoyed your friendship

1042
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.760
<v Speaker 8>and enjoyed your work over the years. And if I somehow,

1043
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 8>you know, influenced you or inspired you in some way,

1044
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:35.679
<v Speaker 8>then that is very very nice of you to say,

1045
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:39.239
<v Speaker 8>and I'm very appreciative of you saying it. And you know,

1046
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 8>a long time in this business, and one of the

1047
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.679
<v Speaker 8>things I'm most proud of in my whole career, Dick,

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<v Speaker 8>is I think I treated everyone with respect on all

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<v Speaker 8>our crews. You have two hundred and fifty people from

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<v Speaker 8>NBC there to broadcast to Derby, and I tried to

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<v Speaker 8>learn as many other names as I could, in course

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<v Speaker 8>the regulars I knew anyway. So I just you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you said that I always treated you with respect, and

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<v Speaker 8>that's one of the nicest things you could say to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, Tom, Thanks so much. Hope to see you

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<v Speaker 1>again soon.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks Dick, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>That was indeed the case. I always appreciated that about

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<v Speaker 1>Tom and about Kate with Leedford. Even before I was

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<v Speaker 1>a broadcast colleague of his worked on the UK Network

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<v Speaker 1>with him, people used to ask me, is k would

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<v Speaker 1>really that nice of a guy? That can't be, is

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<v Speaker 1>he really? Yes? It is possible for guys like Ka

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<v Speaker 1>with Leedford and Tom Hammond and Larry Conley and people

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<v Speaker 1>like that to be decent guys and treat people who

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<v Speaker 1>are coming up, young people early in their career with respect,

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<v Speaker 1>not like they're just kids. Speaking of young people, Jenna

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<v Speaker 1>Lifts of The Kentucky colonels next on six thirty wlap Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Jenna and three two Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now in our celebrity hotline is a new

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<v Speaker 1>voice to the show. But if you are a reader

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<v Speaker 1>of The Kentucky Colonel you know her work. Jenna Liftion,

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<v Speaker 1>who covers, among other things, women's basketball.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome Jenna, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm excited to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, always glad to have Kentucky Colonel people on as

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01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of time, probably too much time

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<v Speaker 1>in that newspaper office, but you know how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, give me some background. Where are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>What year are you in?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so I'm actually from Austin, Texas, a little bit

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01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.440
<v Speaker 10>ways away from Lexington.

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<v Speaker 11>And this is my sophomore year.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you find your way to UK?

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<v Speaker 8>You know?

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<v Speaker 10>When I was looking at for journalism programs because very

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01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 10>few schools have them right now, Kentucky really stuck out

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01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:38.960
<v Speaker 10>to me. I knew I'd get to have the experience

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<v Speaker 10>from the get go, and obviously now I'm getting to

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<v Speaker 10>cover women's basketball as a sophomore. It's pretty pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 10>And I just loved Lexington at the city. It's a

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01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 10>really great place.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin's a great town, ut is a great school, especially

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01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:54.800
<v Speaker 1>for journalism. Can assume you just wanted to get away

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01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:55.199
<v Speaker 1>from home.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, both my parents went to Texas, most of my family,

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01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.440
<v Speaker 10>but I definitely living twenty minutes away from home, I

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01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 10>thought maybe I'd go home too much, have my mom

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01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 10>do my laundry a little too often.

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<v Speaker 11>I definitely needed to get out of town and start

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01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 11>my own life.

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<v Speaker 3>So good for you, Good for you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So things come full circle last night the Lady Longhorns

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01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:22.440
<v Speaker 1>come to town and put a beating on the Wildcats.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was talking earlier in the show about how

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<v Speaker 1>really it was such a defensive battle. I mean, Texas

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01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 1>held below seven seventeen points below it's average. But what

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<v Speaker 1>a job Vick Shafers did on Kentucky. And now we

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01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>can see why this team beats South Carolina, right, Yeah,

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01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean there.

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<v Speaker 11>Are depths that they have.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, they scored twenty four points off the bench.

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01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:49.599
<v Speaker 10>They're just incredible all around. They can really throw anyone

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01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:50.039
<v Speaker 10>in their.

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01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 11>Lineup and they can put up double digit points.

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<v Speaker 10>And then obviously they have an absolute baller in Madison Booker.

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01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:01.960
<v Speaker 10>She is definitely finding her way. You have Rory who

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<v Speaker 10>is obviously up for point Guard of the Year, defensive

1119
01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:08.960
<v Speaker 10>player of the Year. They just have an extremely well

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01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 10>rounded team and they're really tough. So I definitely see

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01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:16.079
<v Speaker 10>them making a national championship run. So it was a

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01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 10>really hard game for Kentucky, of course, but one I think.

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01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:21.039
<v Speaker 11>They definitely needed.

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01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.519
<v Speaker 10>You know, I think it's their first SEC matchup where

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01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 10>it really was they just got out play.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but you know, following up on that, come

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01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:32.599
<v Speaker 1>from a head lost Ole miss where they just got

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01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:36.760
<v Speaker 1>destroyed giving up offensive rebounds, and it happened again last night,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you can always work to get better,

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01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>but I just really feel general like, given the physical

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01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:46.159
<v Speaker 1>makeup of this Kentucky team, I just don't see how

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be able to keep the other team

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01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:51.559
<v Speaker 1>off the offensive boards. That's going to be just a

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01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:53.800
<v Speaker 1>real weak spot for this team down the stretch. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you see it that way?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, most definitely.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I think in all of their losses, when

1138
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:01.920
<v Speaker 10>you look at it, it's always been a struggle.

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01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 11>And last night it was, you know, really bad.

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01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:08.400
<v Speaker 10>Texas out rebounded them on offensive rebounds four times the

1141
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:13.159
<v Speaker 10>amount they had twenty while Kentucky had five, and that

1142
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 10>just really killed them. And it's an issue when you know,

1143
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:22.360
<v Speaker 10>so many players on Kentucky are so tall, tallest team

1144
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 10>in the nation pretty much, and you know, you just

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01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.400
<v Speaker 10>can't give up that many rebounds when you're playing teams

1146
01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 10>as good as Texas. And you know, looking at the schedule,

1147
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:34.880
<v Speaker 10>they do have an easier next two games against Georgia

1148
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.840
<v Speaker 10>and Miszoo no SEC games or give me games, But

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01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 10>when you look at that three game stretch they have

1150
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.679
<v Speaker 10>at the end of the season LSU Tennessee South Carolina,

1151
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.719
<v Speaker 10>they cannot be giving up that many rebounds, point blank. No.

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01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:51.639
<v Speaker 1>When you started covering this team at the beginning of

1153
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the year, and it was not unlike the men's team,

1154
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of course, not an entirely total restart, but pretty much

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01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.559
<v Speaker 1>a brand new team with a brand new head coach.

1156
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.920
<v Speaker 1>What did you expect going into this year from Kenny

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01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Brooks and from this team?

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01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.000
<v Speaker 10>I think my biggest thing that I was looking for

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01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 10>in the culture change. You know, Kenny Brooks during media day,

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01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:16.880
<v Speaker 10>the first time I ever heard him talk, you know,

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01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.320
<v Speaker 10>he emphasized us so much about building a family and

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01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 10>building a culture, and I think all the players he

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01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 10>had brought with him, and then obviously having Cassidy row return,

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01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 10>who I just still think is really the heart of

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01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.679
<v Speaker 10>the team. You know, their Kentucky girl, but he just

1166
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 10>brought in a group of girls that was ready to

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01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 10>represent Kentucky and live up to the standard that people expect.

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<v Speaker 10>And you know, it's hard to have those losses against Texas.

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01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.159
<v Speaker 11>Where you genuinely are like they just played horrible. So

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01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:51.440
<v Speaker 11>when you look overall, I mean the turnaround.

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01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 10>He's had in just one season compared to last season

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01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:58.079
<v Speaker 10>is incredible, and this team is really really good.

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01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:01.039
<v Speaker 11>You know, he put them together in a couple of

1174
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:05.159
<v Speaker 11>months and they're finding their way. So you know, heading

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01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:05.559
<v Speaker 11>into it.

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01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 10>I was really hopeful that he would just shift the culture.

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01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.719
<v Speaker 10>And now the next the rest of the home games

1178
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 10>this season are sold out, so you're really starting to

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01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.239
<v Speaker 10>see that, so it's really exciting. You know.

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01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:19.639
<v Speaker 1>What I thought was really interesting in one of his

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01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:22.880
<v Speaker 1>press conferences was when he mentioned, and I think it

1182
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.039
<v Speaker 1>was remember early I guess it was December, there was

1183
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:29.760
<v Speaker 1>that weird string of of in terms of scheduling, the

1184
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 1>games were just kind of weirdly placed. But he said,

1185
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:36.239
<v Speaker 1>we had a hard time scheduling at first because we

1186
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:41.159
<v Speaker 1>got in late. But then he said, when Georgia Amore transferred,

1187
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 1>people who at first were gonna say, sure, we'll come play,

1188
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh you got Georgia aymore, I think we're busy that week.

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01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was fair.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, yeah, you look at Georgia.

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01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.079
<v Speaker 10>She's just she's one of a kind. I mean she

1192
01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 10>you know, two thousand career points, eight hundred of sist

1193
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:02.840
<v Speaker 10>she's on one in all of mc DOUAA men's or

1194
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:06.039
<v Speaker 10>women's the one basketball that has those stats right now,

1195
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.079
<v Speaker 10>and the number she puts up, yeah my game, what

1196
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:14.599
<v Speaker 10>she averages, you know, nineteen points seven assists. She's just incredible.

1197
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 10>And know, every post game conference I've been to, the

1198
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:21.199
<v Speaker 10>other team can't help, you know, win or lose, to

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<v Speaker 10>just applaud her for how incredible she is. You know,

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01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 10>Vick Schaeffer last night was just in awe of her

1201
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.679
<v Speaker 10>and was like, you know, it's it's nearly impossible to

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01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:37.840
<v Speaker 10>stop her. And then obviously her huge game against Oklahoma.

1203
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.840
<v Speaker 10>There's just times where it feels like if she's if

1204
01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 10>she's having a good game, they're gonna win point blank.

1205
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 10>But at the same time, that's their biggest weakness.

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01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:48.719
<v Speaker 11>You know, every single game.

1207
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:51.920
<v Speaker 10>They've lost, including you and Ce, she's had fifteen points

1208
01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:55.119
<v Speaker 10>or less. So yeah, it's definitely a double edged sword

1209
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:57.920
<v Speaker 10>for them, but it's benefiting them a lot more than

1210
01:07:57.960 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 10>it is, you know, causing them problems.

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01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So are you surprised that somebody else hasn't sort of

1212
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 1>try to pick up more of the slack, because, yeah,

1213
01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:09.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're going to carve out a defensive game planning

1214
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.239
<v Speaker 1>as Kentucky, clearly you got to cut off the head

1215
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of the snake. But you know you come to expect that.

1216
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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, most definitely, you know, especially I think early on

1217
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:23.520
<v Speaker 10>in the season we didn't really see the roster change

1218
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:26.760
<v Speaker 10>as much in regards to who Kenny was putting on

1219
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:30.000
<v Speaker 10>the court. It was typically his starting five, maybe one

1220
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 10>or two Irriccasions. But I think as the season has

1221
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:35.560
<v Speaker 10>gone on. He definitely has been playing with the lineup

1222
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:40.159
<v Speaker 10>a little more, and you know they're doing their best,

1223
01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:44.119
<v Speaker 10>but it's just they really do need someone, I think,

1224
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 10>to get out there be able to drop you know, five, six,

1225
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:50.880
<v Speaker 10>seven points and really shift the momentum. I think that's

1226
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 10>what makes Texas so great and why they're going to be,

1227
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:57.119
<v Speaker 10>you know, top two in the country is because they

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01:08:57.199 --> 01:08:59.560
<v Speaker 10>can throw a girl from off the bench and she

1229
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:01.800
<v Speaker 10>can score or ten points. And I think that's what

1230
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:04.760
<v Speaker 10>Kentucky is really lacking right now. But you know, you

1231
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:08.279
<v Speaker 10>still have Sanni, Like last night, bad game, but she's

1232
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:09.239
<v Speaker 10>still found.

1233
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 11>A way to get a double double.

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01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>So there's definitely some sneaky girls in the lineup that

1236
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.279
<v Speaker 10>are putting up good numbers. But it's just when you

1237
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 10>also have Georgia, it's kind of hard for comparison.

1238
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:23.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, Kiana Keys about as gritty as it gets,

1239
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:23.640
<v Speaker 1>isn't she.

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01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:26.399
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, She's she's incredible.

1241
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 10>I mean, she's definitely gonna take over as a leader.

1242
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.600
<v Speaker 10>I think the same thing about Clara Strack. Obviously not

1243
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:36.880
<v Speaker 10>her best game last night, but she has grown so

1244
01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:40.560
<v Speaker 10>much since the beginning of the season, since the UNC game. Really,

1245
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:44.079
<v Speaker 10>you know, Kenny talked about how he felt maybe they

1246
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:46.680
<v Speaker 10>put too much pressure on her early on to become

1247
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.640
<v Speaker 10>one of their key players, to become one of their

1248
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:49.600
<v Speaker 10>key leaders.

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01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:53.159
<v Speaker 11>Because she's so young. But you know, in regards to

1250
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:54.159
<v Speaker 11>the rest.

1251
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.239
<v Speaker 10>Of the season, minus maybe these past two games, she

1252
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 10>has just really shown off. So I think her and

1253
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:02.640
<v Speaker 10>tani are are really incredible as well.

1254
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Jenna Liftin from The Kentucky Colonel, she covers,

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01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:09.359
<v Speaker 1>among other things, UK women's basketball and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats losing to Texas last night. But what a year

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<v Speaker 1>first home court loss, and you mentioned the sellouts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Memorial College excuse me, historic Memorial Coliseum has become

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<v Speaker 1>a real go to for Kentucky fans. Good crowd last night,

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I'm really as someone who you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>covered this program forever back in the eighties when they

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01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:36.840
<v Speaker 1>won their first SEC title. But when that place is

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<v Speaker 1>full in rocking, uh the coliseums a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, I think definitely about the Louisville game. Obviously, that

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01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:49.079
<v Speaker 10>sellout crowd, I mean it was incredible and I one

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<v Speaker 10>hundred percent credit that crowd to the reason they were

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<v Speaker 10>able to pull off that over time, when it's because

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<v Speaker 10>they had that momentum, they had so many fans sharing

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<v Speaker 10>behind them, and when that place is full, it it's

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01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.239
<v Speaker 10>really hard to play in point blank. And you know,

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<v Speaker 10>with those three sellout crowds and our last three home

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01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:09.000
<v Speaker 10>games of the season, they're gonna need it.

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<v Speaker 11>LSU Tennessee it's gonna be hard, and Georgia of course

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<v Speaker 11>this Sunday.

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<v Speaker 10>It's going to become a hard place to play, which

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<v Speaker 10>is really good for them to have, especially since last

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01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:24.079
<v Speaker 10>season at RUPs they pretty much had no fans at all.

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01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:27.199
<v Speaker 10>It really was a disaster trying to play there. But

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<v Speaker 10>they got their home court advantage back for sure, and

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<v Speaker 10>I think it's definitely paying off. There's multiple coaches who

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<v Speaker 10>have said, you know, it's the most beautiful arena they've

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<v Speaker 10>been to it.

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<v Speaker 11>They've done such a beautiful.

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<v Speaker 10>Job renovating it, and it's becoming a really hard place

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<v Speaker 10>to play.

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<v Speaker 1>We can look ahead because we're the media, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to take it one game at a time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk a little bit in these last to

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<v Speaker 1>or three minutes about the SEC Tournament the NCAAs. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this Kentucky team can have some fun in the

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<v Speaker 1>post season. It depends, of course, I think, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA's on matchups, on seedings, on bracketing, But absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think this team can accomplish?

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I think the advantage this team has is,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, you have players like Georgia and then of

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<v Speaker 10>course Kenny, who have had experience in March madness, who

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<v Speaker 10>have had success, you know, going to the Final four,

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<v Speaker 10>and they know the stakes of the game.

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<v Speaker 11>So they have a lot of veteran players.

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<v Speaker 10>You look at Desia, you look at obviously Georgia, who

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01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.720
<v Speaker 10>have been in these situations before and hopefully can really

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<v Speaker 10>use their leadership and their veteran experience to guide the

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01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:43.079
<v Speaker 10>younger girls of how they need to, you know, take.

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<v Speaker 11>On the tournament mentally.

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<v Speaker 10>And then looking at the SEC tournament, I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 10>really no telling because that SCC is just point blank

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01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:55.520
<v Speaker 10>so deep that you know, it's so easy that you know,

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01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:57.880
<v Speaker 10>you could have a South Carolina losing their first game

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<v Speaker 10>even with a double buy like you just really I

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01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.159
<v Speaker 10>don't know. I do think, you know, once again, if

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<v Speaker 10>you're just having one of her incredible games, if the

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01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.960
<v Speaker 10>team is having one of their offensively dominant games where

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01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:12.159
<v Speaker 10>it just seems every single shot is hitting. Absolutely, they

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<v Speaker 10>can go as far as winning the SEC Tournament. I

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<v Speaker 10>don't see why not when you're having.

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<v Speaker 11>Games specifically obviously.

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<v Speaker 10>I look at the game against Oklahoma where they just

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01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.079
<v Speaker 10>they couldn't miss Georgia couldn't miss shots. And when you

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01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:27.920
<v Speaker 10>look at games like that, I don't think anyone can

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<v Speaker 10>beat that team.

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<v Speaker 11>And then in regards to March Madness, it's really hard.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, Ucla, Notre Dame, obviously, Texas. There's some really

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01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:40.800
<v Speaker 10>really good teams and really deep teams, and it's just

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01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:43.800
<v Speaker 10>a question of like how early on are they going

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01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 10>to get burnt out and tired because they don't have

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<v Speaker 10>as deep of a bench and as deep as of

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<v Speaker 10>a team that can score points off the bench pretty

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<v Speaker 10>much when you know, obviously there seems like Texas who

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01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.399
<v Speaker 10>are getting twenty four points off the benching games. But

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<v Speaker 10>I think either way, no matter how both the SEC

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<v Speaker 10>Tournament and March Madness turn out, this is an incredibly

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<v Speaker 10>successful season. It's the kind of hopeful glimpse into the

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01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.039
<v Speaker 10>future that I think all the Big Blue Nation really

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01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.640
<v Speaker 10>needs to see. You know, women's basketball hasn't been talked

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01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:22.399
<v Speaker 10>about in so long and I think no matter what

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01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:25.680
<v Speaker 10>that is changing, people are going to talk about women's

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01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 10>as much as they talk about men's because they're finding

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01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:31.720
<v Speaker 10>the success. And you know, Kentucky, you're supposed to win,

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01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.399
<v Speaker 10>and when you're winning, people really like that, especially at

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01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:38.600
<v Speaker 10>a school like Kentucky, So it's really exciting. And you know,

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<v Speaker 10>it's still year one for coach Brooks, but he's just

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01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:42.800
<v Speaker 10>done an incredible job.

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01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.079
<v Speaker 1>So winning is fun and that's what it's all about.

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01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 1>If you have a good time and you go to

1346
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:51.319
<v Speaker 1>you can't keep going and watch your team getting clubbed

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01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:53.479
<v Speaker 1>about the head and shoulders. Just after a while, you

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01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:55.920
<v Speaker 1>want to come away smiling. And for the most part

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01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:59.000
<v Speaker 1>they've done that. Not so much last night, but it

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01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 1>should be a fun run down the stretch. Whatever happens,

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01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Jenna Liften will be there to cover it for the

1352
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Colonel. Tell everybody how to follow you on Twitter

1353
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:07.720
<v Speaker 1>or X or whatever we're calling it.

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01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.199
<v Speaker 10>Yes, so Twitter, slash X, you can follow me at

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01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:16.359
<v Speaker 10>gens Reporting. On Instagram, my personal account is Jena Liftin.

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01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:20.079
<v Speaker 10>Also have my media account which is Jen's Reporting, and

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01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:23.119
<v Speaker 10>I'm always active on both of those, but mainly on

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01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:26.560
<v Speaker 10>X is where I keep everyone up today on Kentucky

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01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:27.800
<v Speaker 10>Women's Basketball.

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01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:30.199
<v Speaker 1>News, and of course you can read The Colonel online

1361
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:32.920
<v Speaker 1>as well as something we didn't have back in the day,

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01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:36.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's something that we didn't have to serve twenty

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01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:38.920
<v Speaker 1>four to seven like you all do. I always tell

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01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Colonel reporters, you have much tougher than.

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<v Speaker 10>We did back Yeah, it's hard work, but it's fun.

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01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:49.680
<v Speaker 10>I love doing It's why I came here, so I

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01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:51.399
<v Speaker 10>definitely can't complain good.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thanks so much and looking forward to having you

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<v Speaker 1>on again.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you so much for having me, and we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrap up the week with Heroes, fools and flag on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the break here on the Big

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<v Speaker 1>moon Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to The Big Moonsider,

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<v Speaker 1>final segment of our show thanks to Jenna Liiften, Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Hammond and Jack Gibbons. Time now for heroes, fools and

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01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:15.239
<v Speaker 1>flakes and our hero tonight is literally a hero in

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01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 1>every sense of the word. A young man, a little

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01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:21.840
<v Speaker 1>boy really ten years old. Andre Howard. I remember that

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01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 1>medical jet that crashed into a Philadelphia neighborhood a couple

1380
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, killed a total of seven people. Injured

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01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:33.359
<v Speaker 1>two dozen at least, and Andre Howard was one of

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01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:36.439
<v Speaker 1>the people injured. He was struck in a head by

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01:16:36.479 --> 01:16:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a piece of metal debris as he was protecting his sister.

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01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Threw himself over his little sister and took one to

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01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.159
<v Speaker 1>the noggin, and in fact he needed brain surgery, And

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01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:49.439
<v Speaker 1>in fact, when he came out of it, he asked

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01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:52.319
<v Speaker 1>his dad, or have we played yet? He wanted to

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01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:54.319
<v Speaker 1>know it he missed the Super Bowl, and in fact

1389
01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:57.520
<v Speaker 1>he did not, and his beloved Egles going to win

1390
01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it and A. J. Brown, a talented wide receiver. The

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01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Philly hate him a visit in fact, So yeah, when

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01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you talk about heroes, Andre Howard, the ten year old boy,

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01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.359
<v Speaker 1>he risked his life by saving his sister during that

1394
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:19.640
<v Speaker 1>plane crash. This week's heroes naturally our fool tonight, we'll

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01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:22.079
<v Speaker 1>stay with the Super Bowl. All those idiots who had

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01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to go out and destroy things, burn things, tear things up.

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01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Is now it seems an American tradition. Why is this?

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01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:35.880
<v Speaker 1>There has to be violence and destruction after your team

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01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>wins a championship. You had a guy arrested for spitting

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01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:43.439
<v Speaker 1>on and striking a medic and was charged later with

1401
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the resisting arrest and harassment. He had a guy arrested

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01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:50.520
<v Speaker 1>for assaulting a police officer during all of this. That

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01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:56.039
<v Speaker 1>went on, more than two dozen arrests after Phillies win

1404
01:17:56.680 --> 01:17:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in the Super Bowl. Why does it have to be

1405
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:02.399
<v Speaker 1>this way? Doesn't have to It just is now. It's

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01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:05.479
<v Speaker 1>almost like it's some sort of something to brag about.

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01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:07.199
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say a badge of courage, but it's not.

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01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:10.479
<v Speaker 1>It's a badge of cowardice. Actually, is there any way

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01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:13.920
<v Speaker 1>we could turn this around? I'd be open for suggestions.

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01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Our flake tonight is kind of a weird situation given

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01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 1>where we are these days in social media, marketing and

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01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:24.680
<v Speaker 1>all this. But if you haven't seen it, go find

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01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the photo of Anthony Edwards throwing down a dunk over

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01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Chet Holmgren. Edwards with the Timberwolves Homegrun with Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 1>This game happened last night, and I bring it up

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01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:45.079
<v Speaker 1>because it's an absolute poster dunk and it's Edwards following

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01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:47.199
<v Speaker 1>through with the dunk. He's got the ball in his

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01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:49.720
<v Speaker 1>right hand, eye up over his head about the hammer

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01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.159
<v Speaker 1>of dunt and his left hand is in Holmegren's face.

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01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Homegren is seven foot plus he goes up trying to

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01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.359
<v Speaker 1>block the shot. Good luck with that. And it looks

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01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:02.239
<v Speaker 1>like Edwards has his nose like alcohol, you know. And

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01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I give Homegrown credit because so many NBA players try

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01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to avoid situations like that just for this reason. They

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01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be in the poster. I remember Kenny

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01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Walker ended up on a poster. I can't remember who

1427
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:18.840
<v Speaker 1>might have been Michael dunked on him, but this will

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01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:24.399
<v Speaker 1>be a favorite poster of thousands of NBA fans. So

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01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:27.920
<v Speaker 1>give home Gren credit for at least trying. But Edwards

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<v Speaker 1>made it special. That's going to do it. Thanks so

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01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.720
<v Speaker 1>much to all my guests. Be sure to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Texas writer tomorrow night to an eight o'clock start.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Good night from the garage and Lexington. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to hold it?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Please? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Then you got got the child little tandon.

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01:19:44.560 --> 01:20:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Nap batatattat shop, then.

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<v Speaker 9>Backed out, pack sacks the dip into