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<v Speaker 1>Hi, this is Ray Brown from Owings, Maryland, and I

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<v Speaker 1>play golf at swan Point Country Club. Welcome to Golf Smarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Joe A. Spinoza from Austin, Texas and I

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<v Speaker 1>play at Mill Creek in.

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<v Speaker 2>Toledo, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Golf Smarter number one thousand, nineteen. During the

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<v Speaker 1>pre shot routine, when you're choosing your spot, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a course management part of playing where you absolutely want

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<v Speaker 1>to hit it or miss it in a certain area.

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<v Speaker 1>There's incredible amounts of strokes that can be shaved off

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<v Speaker 1>your game simply by picking the right place to go. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a moment at which you're thinking has to change

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<v Speaker 1>from where the ball is going to end up to

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<v Speaker 1>the task at hand, which is the only thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can affect, which is the ball that's in front of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So your target is actually the ball. All of the

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<v Speaker 1>pre shot routine part is you deciding where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to try to hit that ball, but you can't affect

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going to go. You can't affect what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen over there. You can get it started, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can only get it started in the two feet

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<v Speaker 1>on either side.

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<v Speaker 2>That matters. But is the ball the target?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely it is. By the time you're hitting the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is the target.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to make golf fun again, starting at the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and moving backwards with David Buck.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from

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<v Speaker 1>great golf minds to help you lower your score and

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<v Speaker 1>raise your golf IQ. There's your host, Fred Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>David, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to have you on this show. This is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a silly conversation. I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>just for our three minutes of prap.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have two languages. I've got English and I've

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<v Speaker 1>got sarcasms. So that's that's really all I got to work.

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<v Speaker 2>With, Bill, Well, I have just by listening to your

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<v Speaker 2>voice a little bit, I censor your Canadian.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Canadian, I can Leona. I can put on

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian accident real sharp if you want to e

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<v Speaker 1>but I need a bit of able to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so the English and sarcasm is actually speaking Canadian.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just natural. We don't even hold a candle towards

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<v Speaker 1>the Australians. They're just a level higher.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's so true it's so true. Let's get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of your background in golf so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can establish the craziness that we're going to learn about

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<v Speaker 2>from you in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. So, basically, I used to play baseball, and my

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<v Speaker 1>brother broke his knee playing baseball, and I really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do what my brother did. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>try to learn from your elders. And I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to play a sport like football or hockey or baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to get hurt, so I quit the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and a buddy of mine this in the seventh grade,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was thirteen years old, said well, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a junior membership the course of summer. It's three hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom's driving me out anyways, why don't you come

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<v Speaker 1>join me. I never played golf before. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is going back a few years. This is in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineties, and a golf at that point was a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was the nerd game. It's like, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>plays golf unless you got.

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<v Speaker 2>Just before Tiger Both at the scene it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Norman era, right, and it was it was uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean titleist was was on the forefront. They

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<v Speaker 1>were just I started still using bellattas and DT wounds.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the prov came out that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>quite a thing. But we played all summer, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we played all summer next summer, and then we thought, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>well maybe I should, you know, get a coach and

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<v Speaker 1>start doing this more seriously. And we made some really

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<v Speaker 1>good decisions in there. And I'm sure I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about you. I'm only five seven, and I mean, especially

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, we didn't have distance, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have distance clinics teaching you how to hit it further.

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<v Speaker 1>You had what you had, and you played it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hit the ball about two hundred and sixty yards

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<v Speaker 1>and hit driver everywhere. And my my parents sat down

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<v Speaker 1>and said, you know what, I you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've got something here, But don't play tournaments yet, don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't get in with the guys who are physically bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than you. And so we took an entire year there

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<v Speaker 1>at sixteen and played no tournaments and did nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>practiced some drills and short game and putting and playing.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the time I was seventeen started playing tournaments.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I jumped right up into the Canadian junior

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<v Speaker 1>rankings and was playing the Canadian Juniors and then qualified

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<v Speaker 1>for the World Juniors for two years or he's going

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<v Speaker 1>back for you two or three years, played Overseas a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit over and over in Asia as a junior,

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<v Speaker 1>even got some invites to some things over there. Went

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<v Speaker 1>to school in California and had a very short stay

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<v Speaker 1>at the school due to some disagreements between the coach

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<v Speaker 1>and I and turn Pro. From there my brother. My

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<v Speaker 1>brother was out playing chasing mini tours and Monday qualifiers

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, so I went out and joined him

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<v Speaker 1>and turn Pro ended up playing for three years and

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<v Speaker 1>it was absolutely wonderful and learned all sorts of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and had incredible heartbreak and incredible triumph and all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that golf golf gives to you. Uh. Then then

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<v Speaker 1>I I I left it. I left it and and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as I say, I left it in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that I wasn't, you know, I was. I made

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<v Speaker 1>the choice. It was my choice, but it was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you look back on it and say, ah, what if

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<v Speaker 1>you could have thin done things differently? And I gave

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<v Speaker 1>up the game completely for a number of years, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, you get to a point where you're

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<v Speaker 1>not able to do what you used to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And so that's just it's just it's just frustration.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it took me a few years to learn

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy the game again, and I did, And long

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<v Speaker 1>story short, now, I mean there's no place I would

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<v Speaker 1>rather be than on the first T, not the eighteenth green,

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<v Speaker 1>because then the rounds over the first T, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the with the with the upcoming ground of go. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, through my through my teaching, through my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the things a little bit differently

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<v Speaker 1>maybe than some. And I've had I had a few

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<v Speaker 1>instans is in my career where I got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a five minute lesson from somebody that changed

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<v Speaker 1>my golfing life. And well it's not it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of complicated. It's a matter of being able to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what has to happen here and allowing our bodies

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<v Speaker 1>to actually do it. So now I play golf. I

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<v Speaker 1>raised my kids up there are nine and twelve, and

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to play pretty well if you ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am biased, and I coach others and help people,

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<v Speaker 1>and my main, my main goal is to help people

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the game more so if that means enjoying the

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<v Speaker 1>game more through lower strokes, fantastic. If it means enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>the game by stopping the shanks or curing the yips,

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<v Speaker 1>then great, fantastic. If it means that we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about before we start, you're the mental hurdle of getting through.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Hey, this thing's got to get to there somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to do it more joyfully. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>best place in the world when you have contentment and

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<v Speaker 1>joy also, but it can also be the worst place

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<v Speaker 1>when you're frustrated and shanking it into the woods. Of course, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>that gives you, That gives little synopsis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like I, you know, not the eighteenth green.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always felt like seventeenth t is like, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>the most depressing thing. We're almost I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go home. I like it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me play another eighteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly, No, not anymore. Cannot do thirty six in

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<v Speaker 2>a day? What Wait, what happened to you? You went

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<v Speaker 2>on and became a competitive and good golfer. But what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to that first friend who invited you out? He

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<v Speaker 2>got the three hundred dollars and his mom was driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, parted ways. We parted ways as at about eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny. I've reached out to him a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times but haven't heard back. He's now a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if you go to his website, he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do you know, I do laf for for big

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<v Speaker 1>corporation litigation and in my off time, I'm working on

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<v Speaker 2>Still he's still working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The most entertaining thing about the whole thing is it

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<v Speaker 1>does not matter what level of golf you're at. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a beginner junior year in two, three, four, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're a seasoned pro or you know, I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime of golf. You hear something and you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go try it out. And I remember one time

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, this guy, we were seventeen years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were on the first tea and he had read

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in Golf Digest or something that you should have

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<v Speaker 1>your your feet open a little bit more. And he's like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I finally figured out how to cure my hook. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got it. I've figured it out. And he stands up

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<v Speaker 1>on the first tee and his feet were splayed almost

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<v Speaker 1>fully open right down.

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<v Speaker 2>Balat position, ballets first position.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're laughing before he's even started, just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chuckling underneath our breath. And he stands up on

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, maybe i'n't fixed it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about the lows and the highs, but you

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<v Speaker 2>said in edible triumphs, share that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to share the first one with you. And

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<v Speaker 1>the first one happened when I was sixteen years old

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<v Speaker 1>and I was playing shally they paid played the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven PGA Championship there there was I was. This was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight and we were playing a pro am

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<v Speaker 1>there and I was an am obviously, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>junior at the time, and I double bogie the first

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<v Speaker 1>hole after hitting just a beautiful shot right over the flagstick,

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<v Speaker 1>pried in the back bunker, and you know, didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a long story, short part of the second hole, bogie

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<v Speaker 1>the third hole, I'm three over part. From then on

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<v Speaker 1>went on to make seven birdies in an albatross, won

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament by four strokes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that which hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Part It was fifteen number number fifteen, Part five. I

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<v Speaker 1>went driver, Driver, Driver into the cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Driver driver. You had driver into the cup from how

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<v Speaker 2>far away.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna say it was probably two sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>low off hill, front left pin pulass placement. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it go in, and you know, I watched it go

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<v Speaker 1>in and it's like your eyes, you don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the guys are back there in the fairway,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hit, I said, guys, I think that went in.

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<v Speaker 1>I just start running up to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hole and driver off the deck right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing. I found one online. I found on an

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<v Speaker 1>It was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a little bit heard about it.

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<v Speaker 1>and those moments, those moments when you're on the course

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<v Speaker 1>and everything's just easy. Oh so anyways, that was my

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<v Speaker 1>the time, usually small events. But the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>joy of winning never never ceases. Where there's whether there's

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<v Speaker 2>So is it an amazing how one shot can just

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<v Speaker 1>way too. There's some some shots that have locked in

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<v Speaker 1>you the flip side of that. For whatever reason, and

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<v Speaker 1>tournament play me teeing off of the three wood never worked.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hit the tea the three wood just in

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<v Speaker 1>the first hole, whatever the pressure was. I could hit

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<v Speaker 1>an iron, I could hit I could hit it, I

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<v Speaker 1>get hit it in a part of three I hit driver,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't hit three wood. I always top it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm planning this event down in Louisiana, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, the play is of three wood. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a big deal. It was a titleist nine

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy two, the little red, gray and red lined

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<v Speaker 1>title of three wood. And I hit it, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course I topped it. Didn't even get to the white

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<v Speaker 1>teas like. It was just awful. And the tournament organizer

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<v Speaker 1>why do you let guys like this play in these events?

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is, this is, this is kind of embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tournament organizer says to him, you just watch,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll come in with the sixty seven. I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 1>came in with the sixty seventh, but yes, I can

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<v Speaker 1>still feel all of those tops off the first team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably only five times I took a three foot

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<v Speaker 1>off the tee because of that. But they burn both ways.

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<v Speaker 2>The great shots are always worth talking about. The bad

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<v Speaker 2>shots linger in your head and terrify you when you're

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<v Speaker 2>coming up to a similar shot or something, and people

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<v Speaker 2>are always oh, I, always oh I every time you

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<v Speaker 2>know my three? Would I top it? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get that stuff going in your head. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always trying to remind my friends, hey, history has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with your next shot. Just you do your

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<v Speaker 2>swing the way you do you and don't think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we prevent that? How do we keep our

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably touch on that now a few years later.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the greats. And this I cannot I can't

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<v Speaker 1>find who said it, but it was not me said

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<v Speaker 1>when pressure picks up, the process takes over. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've heard that over the years. Bytimes, pressure

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<v Speaker 1>is a fear of the unknown. It's either we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been in that situation before, we haven't prepared for that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>There's unknowns that we don't know. And I relate it

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<v Speaker 1>back to skydiving. First time you go skydiving I've ever been,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really scary. I mean, you're jumping out of a plane,

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<v Speaker 1>trusting a parachute to take you to the ground. But

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<v Speaker 1>the hundredth time that you've done it, and you've learned

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<v Speaker 1>how to pack your shoot, and you know where all

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<v Speaker 1>the cords are, and you know what it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like when you jump out of the plane and

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<v Speaker 1>how long you're going to be in the air, and

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<v Speaker 1>how to breathe with the wind coming in your face,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no more unknowns, there's no fear. So that

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge actually conquers the fear and it is able to

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<v Speaker 1>take over to the point where you can do crazy

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<v Speaker 1>stuff not being afraid because you have enough knowledge to

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<v Speaker 1>take over. But you see these guys that are seasoned

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<v Speaker 1>pros in the Ryder Cup coming down the stretch at

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<v Speaker 1>Majors in an unknown position that they hadn't prepared for.

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<v Speaker 1>That they have questions that haven't answered. Maybe the question

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<v Speaker 1>is am I going to hit at a club further

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm jew straight now? Or is it? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's unknowns. But if you get there enough times

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<v Speaker 1>and you and you do the same thing over and

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<v Speaker 1>over enough, that allows you to overcome the fear and

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure and be able to focus on the thing

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<v Speaker 1>they actually have focused on. So for me, when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I explain this to people, which is strangely quite

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<v Speaker 1>often because the mental game is such a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of golf. It comes in the pre shot routine and

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<v Speaker 1>the repetition of that pre shout routine over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over, and you're trusting the process of getting the

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<v Speaker 1>thinking is center of the ball, center to club face,

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<v Speaker 1>hit them. I can do that. What I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>is listen to the crowd and the situation. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a I've got a putt for If I

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<v Speaker 1>make this putt, I will. Oh. Now you've added more

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<v Speaker 1>stuff into your mind. You've added more details that you

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<v Speaker 1>have don't have answers for, and that causes stress, which

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<v Speaker 1>causes pressure, and as you know, at tension is the

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<v Speaker 1>killer of the golf game. So with the knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>being able to answer all of your questions before you

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<v Speaker 1>get up there where club wind, where you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hit it, where it's going to land, what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do, make those decisions. You don't have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about them anymore. Then you go through your process of

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<v Speaker 1>lining up, which all happens very quickly as you're going

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<v Speaker 1>through your pre shot routine. I know I'm lined up,

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<v Speaker 1>I know my club face is square, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>shot I'm hitting. There's no more questions I have. All

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do is center of ball, center of face.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't doubt our process. What gets into our head

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<v Speaker 2>is results right, and that's what gets in the way

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<v Speaker 2>of process. Well we have we do all our process,

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<v Speaker 2>and we do it right, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>you're shanking it or you're you know, it's gone in

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<v Speaker 2>the way. It can do any number of things. And

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<v Speaker 2>I also have a yabbut for your skydiver. Okay, with golf,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of mistakes that can be in your

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<v Speaker 2>memory bank about what's going to happen next. But the

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<v Speaker 2>yabbo for the sky driver, the skydiver is one bat

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<v Speaker 2>one mistake, and he's not going to remember what he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing because he ain't doing it again. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>leave the skydiving to someone else. It's not Golf is

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<v Speaker 2>worrisome and stressful, but it's not hopefully not dangerous to

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<v Speaker 2>hope not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm pretty sure a few of us have been

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<v Speaker 1>hit by arron golf balls over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>But knock on wood, so far not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean you have Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a few people in my family who have

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<v Speaker 1>been hit by golf.

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<v Speaker 2>I live next to a I have a golf hole

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<v Speaker 2>right here, I'm right in driving range, and I get

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<v Speaker 2>balls all the time. And luckily, in the thirteen years

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<v Speaker 2>we've lived here, only one person's been hit and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a brush off of a bounce, so brush

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<v Speaker 2>on their arm off the bount So so far, so

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<v Speaker 2>good on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yes, you're right, there are yabbuts, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard because we're human. We get stuff in our minds,

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<v Speaker 1>we get we want to win, and then we change

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<v Speaker 1>our target. We change our target from the ball that's

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us to the pin that's over there,

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<v Speaker 1>or I haven't forbid the water that's left of that

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<v Speaker 1>that's typically where.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're really big on making golf fun again, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and many methods to do that. But I need some

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<v Speaker 2>advice and I'm glad you're here to help me out

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<v Speaker 2>on this because just today my wife, who doesn't play golf,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's taken a golf lesson for twelve she's played

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<v Speaker 2>nine holes a couple times, but she doesn't really have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of interest in playing golf. She likes to

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<v Speaker 2>hike and I like, and I say all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to hike too, just every so often I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hit something right, so I walk when I

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<v Speaker 2>play golf today and is she listening now? Okay, today

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<v Speaker 2>she announces to me, I want to play golf with

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<v Speaker 2>you again. I would like to go back now. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>interested in going back out and playing with you again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, but you know, we've got a net back here.

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<v Speaker 2>We can we can work a little bit on the net,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, have you take a call? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to go out. It's just to have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want lessons. I just and I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the ball. How do I make that fun

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<v Speaker 2>for me? How to give me some advice of what

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<v Speaker 2>I can do to not get caught up because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to give lessons during the round. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>good shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't want your lessons spread.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, no, no, no, absolutely not. I'm a big advocate

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<v Speaker 2>of keeping with your kid or your spouse, keep your

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<v Speaker 2>mouth shut when you're out on the golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, I'm going to have to jump into

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<v Speaker 1>a philosophical rant than bread.

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<v Speaker 2>Go for it, David, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It all has to do with your expectations. And you

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<v Speaker 1>go out on a golf course and it's just you

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<v Speaker 1>or you and the guys. You have a certain expectation

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen during the round. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go play. You're trying to, you know, beat your best score.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to, you know, make pars, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hit good shots. You're jabbering about each other's golf shots.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a certain, shall we say, environ that

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<v Speaker 1>goes with playing with the guys. I have recently spent

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of time beside golf courses just listening

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<v Speaker 1>to groups, going by the language, the sarcasm, the jabbing,

421
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<v Speaker 1>the ribbing that happens in these golf groups is very,

422
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<v Speaker 1>very strong and prominent until you get a husband and

423
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<v Speaker 1>wife with another husband and wife coming by, and then

424
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<v Speaker 1>there's no more ribbing, and there's no more jabbing, and

425
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<v Speaker 1>then there's no more yelling at each other as they

426
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<v Speaker 1>hit a terrible shot and topped it into the bunker.

427
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<v Speaker 1>It's a much different environment one group to the next,

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<v Speaker 1>and your fun has to be based on your choice

429
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<v Speaker 1>of what fun looks like to you out there with

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<v Speaker 1>your wife. So for her, as she says, happy to

431
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<v Speaker 1>pick up, so you say, okay, look, your fun is

432
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going hiking and I'm hitting a few balls, and

433
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<v Speaker 1>I'm spending time with my husband, which means walking to

434
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<v Speaker 1>my ball, and you set parameters around her golfing as okay,

435
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<v Speaker 1>the main point is we keep up to the group

436
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<v Speaker 1>in front of us, which means if that means skipping

437
00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a hole and walking along with me, if it means

438
00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.759
<v Speaker 1>hitting more shots, if we're waiting, hey sweet, hit a

439
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.039
<v Speaker 1>few more shots around the green and try putting it

440
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<v Speaker 1>into the hole. From here, your fun becomes I'm choosing

441
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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy this time with my wife and we get

442
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<v Speaker 1>to hit a few golf balls while we're at it,

443
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<v Speaker 1>but I would strongly recommend not to keep score during

444
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<v Speaker 1>that round.

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<v Speaker 2>For you, Fred, that's the advice I'm looking for.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just keep just enjoy it. And my wife's actually

447
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<v Speaker 1>right over there, probably laughing at me at the same time,

448
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<v Speaker 1>because she too brought I took up golf as our

449
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<v Speaker 1>youngest nine year old when he started about five or six.

450
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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, if I don't play golf, I'm gonna

451
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<v Speaker 1>get left behind. So she started playing as well, and

452
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<v Speaker 1>it's very similar. I mean she for many many rounds

453
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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty bad. Couldn't get off the tea, couldn't hit

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<v Speaker 1>it in the fairway. And just this year and just

455
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<v Speaker 1>this springtime, she's been hitting drives nicely. Now we just

456
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<v Speaker 1>got her a lighter three wood that she's able to

457
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<v Speaker 1>hit off the ground. She can put Uh, just learned

458
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<v Speaker 1>how to chip this year. So she played four years

459
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<v Speaker 1>not knowing how to chip and just putting it everywhere.

460
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<v Speaker 1>But being with us learning how to play, and it's

461
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<v Speaker 1>not even so much learning how to play, for it's

462
00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>just like a little bit of joy hitting the ball

463
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<v Speaker 1>or not hitting it on the water in this hole,

464
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<v Speaker 1>or having colored balls that she gets to play with

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<v Speaker 1>instead of it's it's a different it's a different expectation,

466
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<v Speaker 1>but it's the same game. So if you set your

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<v Speaker 1>expectation of I get to spend time with my wife

468
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<v Speaker 1>today and we're outside and hiking and hitting some golf balls,

469
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<v Speaker 1>you you will have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you your wife making suggestions in the background?

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<v Speaker 1>Jump jump in, poke your head in what's.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that for years, there's a difference. Even

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm with my kids, there's a difference and a

474
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<v Speaker 3>game that I'm working on my game, and there's a

475
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<v Speaker 3>difference on the game that I'm having fun with the people.

476
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<v Speaker 1>I'm with, Okay, and so there's a.

477
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<v Speaker 3>Social game and then there's a work like a try

478
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<v Speaker 3>to get exercising game where yeah, I'm working on my

479
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<v Speaker 3>shots and I'm trying to get better. And so what

480
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<v Speaker 3>I'm playing with my kids sometimes if one of them

481
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<v Speaker 3>is in a bad attitude or whatever, then that's the sort. No,

482
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<v Speaker 3>never a social game, and I just enjoy the ride

483
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<v Speaker 3>with my family. I'm out doing the thing that he loves,

484
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<v Speaker 3>the thing that my oldest son loves, that we as

485
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<v Speaker 3>a family enjoy. That's the only sport in the world

486
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<v Speaker 3>that you can do together with your level of golf

487
00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:38.440
<v Speaker 3>and with her level of golf, and do it together

488
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<v Speaker 3>and just enjoy the time together.

489
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<v Speaker 1>That date, if you guys level it up and say, hey,

490
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go for a golf trip to like

491
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<v Speaker 1>we we had one to Gray Wolf in Panorama, BC,

492
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<v Speaker 1>up on the mountains. Okay, I guess what They've got

493
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<v Speaker 1>a spa?

494
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh, we know the spa, a golf course.

495
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 1>This ear and there's bears and there's birds, and it's

496
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<v Speaker 1>it is a hike. Yeah, so then it becomes an

497
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<v Speaker 1>actual outdoor hiking adventure with golf clubs. I don't know,

498
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a As long as you set your expectations straight,

499
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<v Speaker 1>you can very easily have fun with it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that you like to profess, David,

501
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<v Speaker 2>is talking about making golf easier and fun. Let's go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure I need these tips to bring those along with me. H.

503
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<v Speaker 1>Golf is actually quite a simple game. It is. I

504
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<v Speaker 1>relate it is a lot. But at the same time, just.

505
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<v Speaker 2>Get rid of your scorecard.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you've already said that's only step one. Friend. No,

507
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<v Speaker 1>the when you step on to a tennis court or

508
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<v Speaker 1>a ping pong table never does it end to your

509
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 1>mind as the ball is coming at you being served

510
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<v Speaker 1>by the other person. Okay, let me make sure that

511
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<v Speaker 1>I keep my head still as the ball is coming

512
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<v Speaker 1>towards me, that I drop my k help over here. No,

513
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 1>there's a flat surface that's in your hand, and there's

514
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<v Speaker 1>a round ball that's coming at you, and you think

515
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<v Speaker 1>round ball, flat surface, hit it that direction. Same with baseball.

516
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<v Speaker 1>You got a flat surface in a bat and the

517
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>ball coming at you, and then you try to connect

518
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<v Speaker 1>the two and make it go a certain direction. Ping

519
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 1>pong is the same thing, and the same principles apply

520
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<v Speaker 1>to golf if we don't let all of the other

521
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<v Speaker 1>stuff come in now. Don't get me wrong. That doesn't

522
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<v Speaker 1>mean that I think that all you know in depth

523
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>technical instruction is bad. There's a certain level at which

524
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 1>you want that technical instruction. However, if that comes into

525
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.880
<v Speaker 1>your game too early, or or you start technicalizing. See

526
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<v Speaker 1>that's an English word is made up there. Check it

527
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the golf swing where you don't need to. You need

528
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<v Speaker 1>to come right back down to the two feet on

529
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<v Speaker 1>either side of the ball that actually matters. There's a

530
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<v Speaker 1>flat surface, there's a round ball, and the only thing

531
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that matters is where that flat surface is pointing when

532
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you hit it, and the path at which it's coming

533
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<v Speaker 1>through on. Those are the only two things in the

534
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 1>golf that actually affect what you're doing. Yes, I realize

535
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>there's descent angle, and there's spin right, and there's a flight,

536
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<v Speaker 1>But for ninety five percent of golfers around the world,

537
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the direction that the club face is pointing and the

538
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>way it's moving through the ball. Okay, we have to

539
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>remember that where the club face is pointing is always

540
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>where the ball is going to start. And then the

541
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>path that the club is coming through on is going

542
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to apply right to left spin or left, right spin,

543
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>right to left or lever you know, one of the

544
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 1>spins either way, and it's going to spin from there,

545
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 1>which means somebody says, oh, well, I hit everything right. Fantastic.

546
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad to hear it. You're telling me that

547
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you're consistent. Everything is going to the right. All you

548
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>have to do is spin the club in your hands

549
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 1>so that the face is pointing more to the left.

550
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Do the exact same thing that you were just doing,

551
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and then it's going to start to the left. Oh well,

552
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it's starting to look too far to the left.

553
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. Now we well, if your ball goes to the right,

554
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>then't aim left right right.

555
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>But it's not even so much like aiming your body

556
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>left as it is. No when we start to think

557
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>round ball, our bodies can actually do that. What we

558
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.599
<v Speaker 1>can't do is say, Okay, when I get to the top,

559
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to get a little higher with

560
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 1>my hands, and then just as I am transitioning to

561
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 1>the downswing, I'm going to drop the right elbow and

562
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>tuck down. And here we can't figure that out fast

563
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 1>enough in the swing. But what we can figure out

564
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 1>is flat surface ball go that way. Yeah, And if

565
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we start there and then just apply speed to it

566
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.039
<v Speaker 1>and go longer and longer and longer, and try to

567
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>realize that everything else that we're doing is just applying

568
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:01.559
<v Speaker 1>speed to those that two feet on either then we

569
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>can start to build our own swing around the part

570
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of the swing that matters, the impact position, that the

571
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>hitting of the ball in a certain direction.

572
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>And visualizing it, not thinking about, not thinking about the

573
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 2>mechanics during the swing of what you're supposed to be doing.

574
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<v Speaker 2>That's like all pre shot routine. Think about what you

575
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>need to do this step up to the ball and

576
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>think about a target somewhere else. You know, are you

577
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 2>one of those that likes to play target golf and

578
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>not think about just hitting the ball, but where the

579
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 2>ball is supposed to end up. Yes and no, let's

580
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>stay with yes for now. I want During the.

581
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<v Speaker 1>Pre shot routine, when you're choosing your spot, there is

582
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<v Speaker 1>a course management part of playing where you absolutely want

583
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 1>to hit it or miss it in a certain area.

584
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>There's incredible amounts of strokes that can be shaved off

585
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>your game simply by picking the right place to go. However,

586
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 1>there is a moment at which you're thinking has to

587
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>change from where the ball is going to end up

588
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to the task at hand, which is the only thing

589
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you can affect, which is the ball that's in front

590
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of you. So your target is actually the ball. All

591
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:21.359
<v Speaker 1>of the pre shot routine part is you deciding where

592
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to try to hit that ball, but you

593
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>can't affect where it's going to go. You can't affect

594
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.359
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen over there.

595
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 2>You can get it started, but you.

596
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<v Speaker 1>Can only get it started in the two feet on

597
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>either side. That matters.

598
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>But is the ball the target?

599
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely it is. By the time you're hitting. The ball

600
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 1>is the target. Now, that doesn't mean that I'm not

601
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:46.319
<v Speaker 1>aiming specifically at a corner of a bunker on the

602
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 1>right side of the green, but that's where that switch

603
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 1>has to happen. And so in that pre shot routine,

604
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you go from Okay, I want exactly on that spot,

605
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<v Speaker 1>this is the shot that I want. This is my

606
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 1>interim target that I'm aiming for, and I bring everything

607
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 1>back down into the actual target that I can affect,

608
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>which is right in front of me, and that I

609
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>can do. And then that's the beautiful thing about the

610
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 1>game of golf is it's a lottery. Every time you

611
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>strike it, it's like, oh, let's see where it gets to

612
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 1>go this time. Oh no, I've buried myself in the

613
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 1>face of the bunker and now have to So yes,

614
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I realized that's a little unconventional because there, you know,

615
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 1>there's some really great instructors and there's some great teaching

616
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 1>that through the years of of you know, the Harvey panic,

617
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 1>take dead aim at at where you're trying to hit it,

618
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and I understand that, but there's this disconnect between where

619
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the ball ends up and what we actually have to do,

620
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 1>and it's hundreds of yards apart, and I think it

621
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>becomes a lot easier if your actual task is hit

622
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing that's in front of you as opposed to

623
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>try to connect with something that's hundreds of yards away.

624
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, excellent, excellent, And you know you may unconventional. And

625
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>we just had Eric Alpinfels from Pinehurst is the head

626
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>instructor at Pinehurst and his book Instinct Putting where talk

627
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 2>about unconventional. He's talking about looking at the hole when

628
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>you're putting and not looking at the ball. Have you

629
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:24.279
<v Speaker 2>ever had experience with that?

630
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I have tried it, and putting is the great mystery

631
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of the game. It is it is look at the

632
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 1>hole and get it in fantastic do that? Yeah right,

633
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you can close your eyes and put fantastic thing almost

634
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, right right. I have over the years

635
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 1>struggled with the y word and I'm sorry, Yeah, that's

636
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>part of life, right, yeah, and so.

637
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Much so that you can't even see the word.

638
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 1>No, I can't, that's the yips. But listeners that might do.

639
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Like they're driving and all of a sudden you said

640
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>the word yips.

641
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 1>And they're like crash. I didn't want to I don't

642
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 1>want to be uh, I want to cause the wreck

643
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 1>on the I five, But no, it's that that's truth,

644
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 1>and you got to approach things with truth in life.

645
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>So yes, I've had I've struggled to the yips over

646
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the years. It was once so bad when I was

647
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.039
<v Speaker 1>in my playing days that back when you could use

648
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 1>long putters, it was so bad that I actually tried

649
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 1>pinning the long putter to my neck and bending over

650
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and just trying to move my body in any kind

651
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 1>of way to get the ball going. Now it's it's

652
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>way better, uh than it used to be. In fact,

653
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I can play golf without them now. But I strongly

654
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>believe that that the yips, the shanks, that kind of

655
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 1>stuff is all to do with the miscommunication between our

656
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>eyes and our body, you know, our our our head,

657
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>our head actually tilts and moves in ways where we

658
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 1>think we're aimed somewhere, but we're not act aimed there,

659
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and there's a miscommunication between our eyes and our body.

660
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>But we can you know, that's a that's a topic

661
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>for another day. But yeah, I know there's there's a

662
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 1>there's a number of guys I know speak used the

663
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>look at the whole method for quite some time and

664
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 1>seem to seem to win. You know quite a number

665
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 1>of events doing that, and so that's fantastic. If you

666
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>can do it, fantastic, go for it.

667
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Do it. Talk again about unconventional and things that you've

668
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 2>brought up to me in our email exchange. You are

669
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>an advocate is the word that I want to use

670
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 2>for single length irons, A practitioner.

671
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I am both, okay, Keeping in mind, I don't try

672
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to force any specific idea on anybody other than trying

673
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to help them get what they want. What I want.

674
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I want consistency. I want to be able to get

675
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>up to a ball, know where I'm hitting it, aim

676
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>that direction, and hit it. If that means, here's my crazy.

677
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 1>But if that means for me that I'm five yards

678
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>shorter with each of my irons, or five yards longer,

679
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 1>or if I have to play with a different grip

680
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not accepted by the majority, or I have to

681
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 1>aim right and pull left, or I have to aim

682
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>left and pull right, it doesn't really matter to me

683
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 1>as long as I know that when I get to

684
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the ball, I'm going to hit it a direction, and

685
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go that direction, and my best playing

686
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>in my lifetime, I was. I was averaging fourteen greens around.

687
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I did make a lot of birdies, Yeah, I was.

688
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I was middle of the greens. I could two putt

689
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 1>from everywhere and some of them would go in. So

690
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>let's call it three or four birdies around, very rarely bogies,

691
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 1>almost never double bogies. Certainly, like the three putts were.

692
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Speed putting was a fortape and that consistent and knowing.

693
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember being able to stand in the fairway and

694
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, well there's a little gap there that

695
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 1>I can hit. I'm going to hit it there. That's

696
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 1>where I want it to go, and it would just

697
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 1>go there because I could do that. I believe that

698
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the more clubs that you have in your bag that

699
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>are the same length and weight, the less variables you

700
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>have in your clubs. Okay, I know full well when

701
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing, Okay, i have seven sets of golf clubs

702
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>in my garage. I'm crazy, and I probably need another one.

703
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:34.880
<v Speaker 2>And how many of them are single length?

704
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I've got two sets that single or and those are

705
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.599
<v Speaker 1>the ones I play. Okay, keep you eye when I

706
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>say advocate, I am actually playing those. I'm playing them

707
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in events I'm playing them in tournaments. I love them. Okay.

708
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.639
<v Speaker 1>I have one ten club single length set which is

709
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 1>lob wedge to four iron, and these are both the

710
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 1>both these sets are a Voda Golf irons and so

711
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>those are those are all seven iron length lob wedge

712
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>through four iron. Then I have a second set which

713
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 1>is lob wedge through eight iron that are that are

714
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 1>all nine iron length, and then seven, six, five, four

715
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 1>are progressively longer. Okay, so let me let me just

716
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 1>talk about the concept here first. Any experience with it,

717
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 1>m when I'm playing the same length ten club seven

718
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 1>iron length things. There is a level of accuracy and

719
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>predictability that comes with all of the clubs that you

720
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 1>cannot understand until you've tried it. I mean, I have

721
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>custom fit sets of verible length clubs that are fit

722
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to my body and my swing and fantastic and I

723
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 1>hit them well. But to be able to pull any

724
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>club out of your bag, that's an iron, okay, Obviously

725
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it changes when it gets to woods and hybrids and

726
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 1>driver and you pull any of those irons out of

727
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 1>your bag, it's the exact same setup. It's the same weight,

728
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 1>it's the same feel, it's the same grip. The only

729
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 1>thing that changes is how high it's coming off the face.

730
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And incredibly to me, once I started using them, I

731
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>documented my social media documented my first round with them

732
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and my first shots with them. Didn't even go to

733
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 1>the range with them, and didn't know the yardages of them.

734
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>They're very close to your regular variable length irons. The

735
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 1>switch over from a yardage perspective is almost nothing to

736
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 1>give you to give you exact yardages and differences. Shall

737
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 1>we say, standard length four iron would fly about two twelve,

738
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 1>let's call it, and the same length fore iron will

739
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 1>fly two oh six, So there's about a five or

740
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.159
<v Speaker 1>six yard difference, and it is lower because it's a

741
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a lower lofted and lower spin. So there's a

742
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>consideration that has to happen. But there's an accuracy that

743
00:38:57.880 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>goes with those. So there's there's gives and takes it

744
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>with everything, but there's an accuracy that goes with those

745
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that is unmatched with other irons that I have played

746
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and didn't.

747
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:12.679
<v Speaker 2>There was no there was no process for you to

748
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>adapt to them. It just immediately worked for you.

749
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I shot seventy one the first round that I ever

750
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>played with them.

751
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

752
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 1>On a course that was a mountain side course where

753
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to be there's sectional greens, you know, big

754
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>curves in between significant there's significant ease in using them.

755
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of tough points. Okay that the

756
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>longest of the irons are touch points. That's like, yeah,

757
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's some there definitely is some adjustment. And then

758
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the chipping around the greens took two rounds, let's call it.

759
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I would think that the wedges would

760
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 2>be the hardest adjustment because you know, maybe even the

761
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.519
<v Speaker 2>shaf are different on the wedges or not they.

762
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Differ, they are different, but because they feel like all

763
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>your other clubs, it's not notice unusual. And actually when

764
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I go back to a standard length wedge, I find

765
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 1>myself bending over a lot in my back hurts or

766
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.159
<v Speaker 1>when i'm back so as an old fort like me,

767
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:24.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, child, I've got the gray hair to prove

768
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:25.280
<v Speaker 1>it it's good.

769
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, don't don't even go there.

770
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Sorry to bring that one up anyway. But the other

771
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>set that I have is kind of like the the

772
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>other adjustment of it, or or maybe the best of

773
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>both worlds. And so this is what this is the

774
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 1>set that I'm actually playing with regularly. Now when when

775
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 1>it's soft windy or I'm playing link style golf, I'll

776
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>go to the ten club same length because i want

777
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>everything low anyways. It gives you great flexibility there, keep

778
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>everything low. It's very solid. Like hitting the center of

779
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the face is just easy. Okay. North American courses typically

780
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to fly longer shots higher because you got

781
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to carry bunkers. You got to stop it on the greens.

782
00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>You may be landing onto a downslope. So the the

783
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>what the company calls a combo length set are six

784
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 1>clubs nine iron length and then seven, six, five, four

785
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that get progressively longer, and so you have in your

786
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 1>scoring clubs that same kind of consistency. And the way

787
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that I'm actually using them is I'm now gripping down

788
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>on the seven, the six, the five, and the four

789
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to make them same length. Then if I need the

790
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>extra height or the extra few yards, then I will

791
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>add length in my grip. You have to be disciplined

792
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 1>enough to do it. And now I've got the big

793
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>grips on there too, So it feels good no matter

794
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>how high you are on the shaft. But there is

795
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>definitely some accuracy that leaves as soon as you length

796
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 1>then out those four or five ins and it's not

797
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't get me wrong, It's not a lot,

798
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's noticeable. And so then I have to ask myself,

799
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 1>if I'm sitting there at two oh five, do I

800
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>want to hit a hard five high or do I

801
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 1>want to pick that spot up the middle with the

802
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>forearm that I know is going to go that direction

803
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.519
<v Speaker 1>and just and just hit that shot. And so I've

804
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 1>I've I've found myself. I had to play with I say,

805
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I had to. I had to play with my my

806
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>variable set just before a trip because I had all

807
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the clubs packed up, but I still wanted to play.

808
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.199
<v Speaker 1>So I went I would played, and you know, I

809
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 1>found things like the gap wedge. You know, I'd stand

810
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>over it and be like, this doesn't it doesn't feel right.

811
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.039
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel like a pitching wedge or a nine iron.

812
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel like a wedge. There was some unusual

813
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff for me when I went back that wasn't there

814
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>with with with the same length system. So the way

815
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.039
<v Speaker 1>the way I explain it to people now is the

816
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>more of the exact same waiting and length clubs that

817
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 1>you have in the bag, the better you're going to

818
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>be for accuracy. But you have to understand that there

819
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 1>are some trade offs. The you know, the further you

820
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>go in either direction from the seven iron, Yeah.

821
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.159
<v Speaker 2>I played. I played single length irons for a bit,

822
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.559
<v Speaker 2>but I just never could get my head into it

823
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and be comfortable to the point where I'm like, yeah,

824
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 2>this is so much better than what I was doing before.

825
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 2>You also mentioned to me about you're now trying to

826
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>play golf left handed. Yes, and you are a right

827
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 2>handed golfer.

828
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I am absolutely a right handed golfer. I've played thirty

829
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>years agolf right handed. And what I produced a self

830
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 1>paced video course earlier this year that was talking that

831
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that that helps with ball striking consistency. It's it works

832
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 1>from the ball back from the two feet that we

833
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>were talking about, works from their backwards, allowing you to

834
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>build your own swing or how your body's going to

835
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.639
<v Speaker 1>get back to that point, and it's yeah, you know,

836
00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I figured, hey, it's it's simple, it's easy to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of people through it said hey, this is great, fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well, I want to know what it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't do it because I already know how

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<v Speaker 1>to play golf right handed. So I'm like, hey, stupid idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not try to learn the game all over again

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<v Speaker 1>left handed? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So now you said you were a baseball player as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. Were you a switch hitter?

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a switch hitter, but I did play

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<v Speaker 1>hockey left handed. Okay, so I hold the hockey stick

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<v Speaker 1>left handed. But if you look at my left handed

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<v Speaker 1>swing is not pretty. It's just it's not good golfing. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, so what I did is I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>screw this. I'm going to say and I'm saying this

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<v Speaker 1>publicly now see to you that I'm doing this until

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<v Speaker 1>I break par left handed. It might take a while,

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<v Speaker 1>might take a while. I have in production right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just about ready to launch later this week as of

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<v Speaker 1>the recording. I know the publish a publication is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come out a little bit. But I my first

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<v Speaker 1>ever round left handed, without going to the range or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I rented a set of left handed clubs and went

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<v Speaker 1>out and played and documented it, scores and everything. All

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<v Speaker 1>the strokes hit five balls out of bounds on one

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<v Speaker 1>hole in the same spot with a giant place there

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<v Speaker 1>was some good stuff, but there's some really really ugly stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I've been I've been working on it daily

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<v Speaker 1>since then, and I'm gonna document it publicly. You'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go to the channel and see the left

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<v Speaker 1>handed series and how it's progressing. But some really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things came up, and in our pre chat before this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about, you know, the mental game and how

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<v Speaker 1>you can eliminate strokes, even my first round left handed

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<v Speaker 1>to my second round left handed, changing my thinking to

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<v Speaker 1>There was one shot in particular. It was on the

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<v Speaker 1>tenth hole of my second round left handed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had one hundred and seventy yards to the hole, but

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get to the hole, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>carry a desert area and some pot bunkers and really

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<v Speaker 1>some death zones for your scorecard. But to the left

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<v Speaker 1>of the green was a big open fairway area and

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<v Speaker 1>I've never aimed there before in my life right handed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not somewhere I would have even thought. But

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm standing there in the fairway, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can just hit it into that big fairway section,

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<v Speaker 1>I could chip, I could put from there, I could

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<v Speaker 1>get it up onto the green and I'd make bogie

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<v Speaker 1>instead of risking a double or triple bogie instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the part. And I hit it. I hit it over

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<v Speaker 1>to the left and I hit it into the big

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<v Speaker 1>ferry part and I actually got up and down for

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<v Speaker 1>par Wow, And I thought, how interesting that just changing

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm thinking to being like, no, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even care where the pin is. I care where the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest part of the fairway is. And because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how to hit a bunker shot left handed,

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<v Speaker 1>yet I don't want to get in there, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get out, so I have to stay in the fairway.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I stay in the fairway? So sometimes that

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<v Speaker 1>meant hitting eight iron instead of five iron and just

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<v Speaker 1>playing thirty yards short. Sometimes it meant aiming like absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>the other direction of the water and then having a

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<v Speaker 1>longer shot in. And now I'm starting to think of

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<v Speaker 1>the game differently from the people that I'm trying to help,

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00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.519
<v Speaker 1>perspectives like, well, how do we help them? Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to aim for your your ability always. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds fascinating. So tell us about where we

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<v Speaker 2>can find you online? What is a big swing kings

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<v Speaker 2>dot com?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you can see there in the hat. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>on video or if it's own voice, it's Big Swing

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<v Speaker 1>Kings and it's everywhere at Big Swing Kings. So website

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<v Speaker 1>is Big Swing Kings, the YouTube, the TikTok, the instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>the the everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You give online lessons to.

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<v Speaker 1>Online lessons, Yeah, through through skillstand through the website. You

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<v Speaker 1>can book online lessons with me. You can even submit

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<v Speaker 1>your swing for free and I will roast it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>help you while also making fun content. But no, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the beautiful thing about golf is we all know

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<v Speaker 1>that we suck. It doesn't matter what level you're at.

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<v Speaker 1>You can watch the top pros on a bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know that we suck. And that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>it so much fun is that we can make fun

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<v Speaker 1>of ourselves and we can see our errors in life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's like how we should think about life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, ah, we mess up all sorts of places,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're okay looking at ourselves and saying, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that actually does need to change. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I love so much about helping people in golfers

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<v Speaker 1>that we all know that we need help.

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<v Speaker 2>We all yeah, mar Martin Chuck said you can't embarrass me.

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<v Speaker 2>I play golf exactly, so you can't say anything that

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<v Speaker 2>will embarrass me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have missed a two foot putt to win a match,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's there.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be looking at the hole.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I need one of those balanced lie angle balanced putter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the newest trend, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me for not for golf smarter listeners, No, no, no, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been on lie angle balance. We've been on the

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<v Speaker 2>Lab golf putter for since twenty nineteen. Huge advocate. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>love those butters. So don't cross me here. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not the time because we're about to say goodbye, David.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a lot of fun. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually do have a Lab butter in the bag

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, so I can't say too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course you do. Everyone should and probably will soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, David, thanks a lot, really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you friend.
