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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Happy Wednesday. Welcome to Puck Time.

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Speaker 2: We are here to break down the small but hopefully

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profitable NHL betting slate. I am Andrew McGuinness and filling

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in for Carmi and Bianco, we have mister Brian Leonard.

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Brian has had success for many, many years in the

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NHL and he's doing it once again this year. So

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we got him always ready in the bullpen. I wouldn't

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even say bullpen. You're a You're a starting pitcher here

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Brian on Puck Time. We're seeing you multiple times a

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week here on the show. So looking forward to a great,

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great show, multiple games worth getting to. I believe we

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just left one game off the show, and that was

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the game with the most Jews. So today Rangers at Lightning,

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Oilers at Flyers in the New Jersey, Devils visiting the

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Chicago Blackhawks in Shytown.

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Speaker 1: Brian, good morning, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great and it's good to see you. And

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I like your background. That's nice. I've got a lot

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of stuff like that and probably need to put the

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upstead of the books, but yeah, that's a nice background.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You know, the funny story behind that is that.

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Speaker 2: I've had it for a couple of weeks, and everyone

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keeps on joke kept on joking around, Like CARMI was like, dude,

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looks like it looks like you're in a jail cell.

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You got just like the most boring your wall background.

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And I've been trying to mix things up. And I

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wouldn't say I'm like an overall stubborn person, but I'm

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not really a handy guy by any means. But I

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don't like to ask for help with stuff. And this

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actually used to have like glass on it, but now

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the glass. I was trying to set it up and

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I dropped it and the glass sort of shattered. So

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it was kind of just sitting there for for like

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maybe two weeks before I kind of patched it up,

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made some changes, got the glass taken out. My girlfriend

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actually helped me. I got to get it for credit,

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put it up in there, and I want to get

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more stuff along the sides. But you know, I give

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a lot of credit to people to have cool backdrops

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because it does make it a little bit better. And

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we've come a long way from all of us doing

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the green screens, and now we got a little bit

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more personal and I got to give you some credit

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because me and Prez were talking about this the other

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day about people that have the books, because it's like,

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you know, when you have a book background, everyone just

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wants to know what books they are.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like it's so important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe I need to just pull them out

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and rotate them and put something face in the front sometimes.

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But yeah, I've read them all. I don't remember a lot,

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but it's over the years. But I used to have

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when I lived what I call it my big house.

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When I was in that part of my life where hey,

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you wanted to show off and you had the nicest

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cars in the whole bit. I had. I had stuff

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up on every room in the house. I had a

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home theater, I had my big office, jerseys, frame jerseys

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all over the place. Now as I get older, that

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stuff doesn't matter as much. So yeah, trying to uh

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save more money for retirement, which hopefully I'll be coming

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up pretty soon. But hey, we could do our we

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could do our jobs on a beach anywhere, you know,

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as long as we've got a computer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is for sure. You're saving for retirement. I'm

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saving for a house. Tired of renting, But right now.

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It's that age old debate right now, what's what's more

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worth it? But it is nice to get a property down.

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A lot of people in the chat right now. We've

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got Lex with us, We've got djen Tz's with us,

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Goose is with US, Nebraska's with US, mm is with US,

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A Johnson with US, Steven Rogers. Steven says I was

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sweating out five percent Carmine had last night.

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Speaker 1: Glad it came through. Gotta love that, Gotta love that.

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The only time the Dallas Stars led the whole game

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is when they eventually won it and want to win

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for them. Three to two for the Dallas Stars, So

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congrats to Carmia. It's not about how you win, it's

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if you win, and they got the job done.

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Speaker 2: So Brian, let's get through one game here and then

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we'll do some open discussion. I know you had something

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that you wanted to mention with me, and I always

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want to talk with you about some strategy as well.

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So let's take a look at this New York Rangers

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game here taking on the Tampa Bay Lightning. And I

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think it's fair to say earlier in the season there

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were two Florida based teams that weren't doing so well well.

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Now we can really only say it's one Florida based

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team that's not doing so well because the Tampa Bay

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Lightning went on a little bit of a shreak. I

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have not pulled trigger on this game yet, and I

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feel like I've lost a ton of value on it.

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On my show last night, the pre Scout, which I

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do have to get you on, I did talk about

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liking the Rangers here. One thing that I mentioned is

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that sometimes you can build momentum as a team even

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if you defeat.

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Speaker 1: A not so great team.

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Speaker 2: And the number of minus one to fifty seven open

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Pinnacle now showing one thirty six. Do you agree with

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me that even if the Predators aren't a great team,

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the Rangers could maybe build some momentum off that victory

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over the Preds.

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Speaker 3: Any victory at this time, especially a home victory for

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the Rangers is something you can build on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Karlam and I believe had to play on

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the Rangers. I'm just just from a memory. Uh maybe

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it was just on the show here, but it was

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a situation where the Rangers have not been scoring at

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home and I used to pre play against them. Actually,

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I couldn't trust that line the way they've been playing,

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but hey, they played very well. They took took it

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into account that they needed to get going, and a

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lot of times, you know, you get it in your head,

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and I'm sure the Rangers had it in their head

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like gee, what the hell's going on here? And for

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them to come on and get that little monkey off

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their back. You know a lot of people have said

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that they've been a little bit down this year, but

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you know, they played eight games at home, nine games

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on the road, and their minus two in UH scoring

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differential on the season that tests me they're an average

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team and they may be a little bit better than

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an average team overall. But you know, they haven't played

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well and they're still not that far behind. Like I said,

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only minus two on the season. And when you look

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at Tampa, Tampa's a team that's plus five on goals

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on the season, seven home games, eight on the road.

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You know, if they played more road games than home

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and you've got a plus goal differential, that means you're

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a pretty good team. And we saw how they really

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struggled out of the gate earlier this year, so they

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are playing very well right now. And the thing you

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got to point out about the Rangers, they have not

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only been great this year on the road. I believe

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there's seven to one and one on the road. They've

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got a twelve twelve goal differential since the twenty one

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twenty two season. On the road. The Rangers lead the

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NHL and points at two hundred and twenty one points

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and tied with the Wins at one hundred and one.

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So them playing well on the road is not something

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that's a surprise this year. This is one of the

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best road teams in and football and or excuse me,

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in hockey. And we know all about good road teams

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in football all the time they talk about them. Certain

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teams are very good on the road. I don't think

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the Rangers get enough credit for how they play on

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the road. Here the line right now, we can get

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basically anywhere from like one eighteen to one twenty three

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on the Rangers. Not enough for me to make it

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a selection, but I would have to think that that's

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a pretty good payback. I mean, Tampa Bay's very good

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when he played the Knights the other day, Just the

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sharpness of their passes, the accuracy of their pastes. When

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they're on, they are on, and they're very good, and

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this is a very strong homemice advantage. But as you mentioned,

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the line has come down a little bit on the dog.

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So I still like the Rangers a little bit. Probably

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won't get there for clients.

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Speaker 2: You know, I agree with a lot of the stuff

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you just said there. Brian agreed a lot of the stuff,

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and TJ says, I'm going to paraphrase here because he

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gave both these goaltenders some nicknames. We'll call it, but

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he says, pretty much, remember the days when Vasilevsky and

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Schisturkin were dead unders.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that's true. Those those both those goalies.

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Speaker 2: Haven't had the best seasons by any means here, But

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looking at the analytics for these teams last ten games,

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all situations, they both fall in the top ten as

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far as expected goals against. Positively, the Rangers seventh, Lightning

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second according to my numbers. So you know, we can

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talk about offensive numbers all day long with this Rangers team,

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but specifically their defense has improved. Couldn't agree more with

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what you said there about them as a road team.

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At least the joke like that can finally be out

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of play. I mean, I guess they kind of have

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to follow it up.

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Speaker 1: Ryan.

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Speaker 2: It can't be just one win at MSG. The joke

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will still be there. What's crazy is it's not even

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that bad that they haven't won a game at They

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hadn't won a game at MSG. It was more so

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that they had gotten shut out that many times, and

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it was only like November. It's not like it was like, oh,

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this team in through four months of the year has

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been No. I bet you a lot of teams won't

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be shut out that much at home all season long.

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So having said that, though, I kind of lean towards

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the under based on what the analytics are telling me,

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but I do think if it goes towards an under,

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I would look towards.

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Speaker 1: This Rangers team. And you know, do you think, Brian,

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like when because.

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Speaker 2: You see that people talk about this all the time

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on social media and you've been doing this a long time,

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and I the line is what it is right now,

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right and you and I can look at what it

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was last night, And that's one of the reasons why

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I started doing my show. Sure, if I have packages,

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I'm going to promote them, but a lot of times

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I'm talking about a few games that I like, and

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I think that when you look at this Lightning team here,

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besides their game against the Avalanche, which they still kept

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it within one, could we maybe argue that life has

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been very very good for them recently and the Rangers

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maybe it could be the hungrier team going into this matchup.

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Speaker 1: But have we lost value? I guess what I'm trying

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to say to you or or is that just how

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the game goes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least for me, I have at night certainly

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I'm looking to put out most of the time, I

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don't nless. It's like a five that I know I

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need to get grab this line as soon as possible.

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I like to wait because in the morning the lines

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go up, so you've got a chance to get more

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money on it. So I've got guys. I'm sure you've

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got guys that follow you. The bet pretty sizable and

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I'm the same way. So if I give something out,

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we can all have a better record. Like in baseball,

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you see it all the time. That's one of the

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advantageses that Tokyo Brandon has is his day is different

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than ours, so he puts it up at his normal time.

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But that's early for us, but he only has the

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overnight lines, so he gets better numbers. And a lot

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of times you play props, you've got to get in.

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You know, those numbers as soon as possible are never

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going to be there. So that's an advantage to his

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guys that can do that, but it's also a disadvantage

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for guys who can't really bet until later on in

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the day. So I try to as the day goes on.

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There's certain games where I think, yes, that is hit

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my I call it strike points. That is hit my

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strike point. I can give that out now, or I

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could bet that right now. So I like to save

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everything until the morning. But unless it's something that I

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think is really going to move, I don't put anything

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out until the morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm similar to that. One thing I will say

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is that people tell us that in the NHL market,

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movers don't matter. Like I've heard so many analysts and

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radio hosts go on and on about how odds makers

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don't care about NHL money. But there are still some

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books that you and I can look at, Brian and

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respect more than others. Right, and the best part about

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odds logic, which you and I both really like and

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everybody I wager talk and promote. You can structure the

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books in the order that you would like them to be,

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so you know, if you don't have access to Caesars,

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then there's no point in you having Caesars in the front,

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front and center, you know, or whatever it might be,

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not to call them out or who a Pinnacle. Some

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people can't I can use Pinnacle. A lot of people

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can't use Pinnacle. But sometimes my point is here, I

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like using sometimes references that I've seen overnight, Like for example,

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I like looking at overnight flips. So some people say, oh, well,

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you're betting that team now, you could have got to

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met a better number yesterday. This is sometimes an example

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where I'm respecting the market, you know, and I'm saying, hey,

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what's the deal here? This team was one twenty. Now

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we got the other team minus one to fifteen. What's

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going on here with that? And kind of like similar

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to the Habs game yesterday, Like when I was handicapping

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that game on Monday night, I said to my audience

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on my night show, very curious to see what happens

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overnight here with this one, And to the shock of nobody,

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we saw really no movement on Montreal, and that was

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a little bit worrisome for me. So it sounds like

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you and I are on the same page, kind of

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lean towards this Ranger side in this one. I think

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also this one could be a game that maybe starts

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off more lower scoring and then starts to blow up

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a little bit after. We'll see when it comes to that.

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So I like this one here. Nice to see a

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pick in your cell room. Yeah, exactly. We're out of

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the jail cell. We're out of the jail cell. We

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got we got some artwork. Somebody shipped me. Somebody shipped

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me some artwork here in the jail cell. Brian, you

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had a topic you wanted to talk about today, anything

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you wanted to bring up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. But first I wanted to point out

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you were mentioned the line service. Living in NOAs, Vegas,

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I've got all the obviously, all the line services are

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here for Vegas. I would recommend, even if you don't

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have Circa or maybe South Point or the Westgate to

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get them just for Golden Knights games because most most

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of the locals are going to play the Golden Knights.

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Those are local sports books here in Vegas. There's obviously

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they've got a couple outside of Vegas, but you're going

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to get a feeling on what the book makers think

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about those games because they know they're going to take

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money in on Vegas. And if you see the Vegas

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lines lower on the home team than other places, that

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tells you the local linesmakers think that the other team

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has a pretty good advantage there. But the one thing

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I wanted to talk about, we're now anyway from fifteen

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to twenty games into the season, and I have my

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pre preseason work done as you have, and I've got,

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you know, I go through all the sportsbooks, the sportsbooks

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that I trust, and I get their season wins numbers,

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and I read them all down and I ranked them

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my power ratings based on that. For example, on today's card,

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we'll just look at the the Edmonton game, and coming

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into the season, Edmonton was expected to be twenty five

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and a half points better than Chicago. If you have

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watched these two teams play, is Edmonton even better than Chicago?

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So my question to you is how often how long

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long does it take into the season for you to

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throw away your priors before you get into it. I

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have had a lot of success throwing away my priors

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earlier this season because I have been on a lot

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of these teams that have been you know, San Jose, Chicago, Montreal,

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a lot of these teams that were more of an

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afterthought coming into the season, but like the Penguins, and

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I've made a lot of success on these on these

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teams by doing that. Is it time to throw away

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all of your preseason thoughts or do you still need

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to keep that into account when you're doing your handicaping.

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Speaker 2: I think that maybe this time is the time to

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do it, Brian. At this point, we've seen enough a

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little bit here. But I'll be the first one to

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tell you that when I was talking, I'm gonna give

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him credit, I was talking to Ronald Kbang.

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Speaker 1: I'm u cop.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's watching this right now, but

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I would say there's pros and cons to hockey being

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my face sport. And I'm going to be fully transparent

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with you here, Bran. Like when I watched when I

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started handicapping the KBO, the Korean baseball with Dave Cochin. Now,

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I'll forever remember that that was so much fun to

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do with him. It was an honor everybody in the

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world was all of a sudden a Kbo handicapper, right,

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like you know.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is he and I.

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Speaker 2: Were actually putting in the work and putting our faces

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on video, like we couldn't hide from it. I wasn't

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just you know, closing my eyes and putting out a pick.

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But where I'm going with this is like I had

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no biases, Like ten weeks and I'm not lying. Ten

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weeks before I didn't even know who the best pitcher

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in the league was, right. So one thing that was

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kind of nice going into that handicap with that sport

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was like I was strictly data driven, Like, Okay, this

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picture is not doing well, this team's metrics offensively are

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going well, this is a bad situational spot.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Now if somebody is looking at you know, this NHL season,

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that's not as much of a hockey guy that doesn't

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really get caught up. Like I hated the Bruins going

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into this year. I thought the Penguins were going to

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be trading off pieces at the trade deadline, right, But

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look at this Bruins team, Look what they're doing right. So,

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but I think that at the same time, Brian, we're

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at that point in time now where some of those

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teams that are overachieving might start to be humbled a

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little bit. I guess my answer is like, I necessarily

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don't want to bet on them anymore, but I'm not

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going to bet against them as much anymore. With some

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of these teams, like look at the Anaheim Ducks, I

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don't know what the splits are, but I can probably

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tell you there were a lot of people that liked

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the Ducks last night because why not value?

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Speaker 1: You know, they've been looking good. You look at the

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two divisions, and this.

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Speaker 2: Is kind of what I was talking about when you

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talk about looking at the odds. Pages and bookmakers aren't stupid, right,

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and they're they're in business. The casinos look pretty awesome

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for a reason, right. And so when you look at

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the odds last night for the Colorado and Anaheim game,

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and then you look at the results of the game,

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I guess the book makers might have been right to

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price that the way it was. But if you ask

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everybody in our live chat yesterday, no offense to everybody

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the watched, everybody said that Anaheim had to be the.

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Speaker 1: Play because of the value. Right. So I think that

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in long winded turns. Brian.

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Speaker 2: I've struggled with not changing my mind fast enough with

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some of these teams because I'm so I guess confident

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in my preseason projections. But then once I do find

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those spots to bet on them, then you can make

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some money. Do you find though, right now, Brian, that

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we've lost value on some of those teams, Like look

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at San Jose, look at Chicago, Like is it almost

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too late to bet on those teams?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The good thing is in hockey is it changes all

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the time. We're only fifteen to twenty games. In the

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next fifteen to twenty games could be total opposite. You

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mentioned the Florida Pama. There's Florida's got so many injuries

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right now. I'm amazed how well they're playing actually to

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be where they are considering all the injuries they've had.

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So yeah, it's funny because I never handicapped hockey. I love,

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I loved going to hockey games when I was younger,

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but I grew up in Cleveland. You know, we didn't

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have a whole lot. And that's once Vegas got a team,

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I said, you know, I'm gonna start handicapping hockey. So

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I came in. I didn't have the advantages that you guys,

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you know, being Canadian, especially followed hockey since you were born,

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So I didn't have those ideas in my head. And

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knock on wood, I've had a lot of success because

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of that. I don't have the preconceived ideas, and I

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think that is something that really is is a detriment.

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And depending on you know, you guys know all the players,

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you know how to pronounce the names other than Carmike.

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But it's it's a situation where you're very familiar with

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the history. You guys throw in and I said, oh

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I remember that guy, I remember that. You have to

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have so much more knowledge on it than I do.

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But because a lot of people when they're handicapping, especially

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in the NFL, I think we can all agree that

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the NFL is the hardest sport to be and it's

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because everybody knows everything about the NFL. And so we've

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had we followed these teams our entire life, and it's

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hard to get the passed out of there and say, Okay,

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well this is a different team this year that you

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did a lot of injuries. You got to figure it out.

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But yeah, it's That's one of the joys of handicapping

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every night, especially in hockey and baseball. Any night, any night,

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one team could be in another team. You mentioned the

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Anaheim game. If you charted, I got charted the way

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the numbers go all day long. Even though everybody I

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know like the Anaheim, more money came in on Colorado

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as the day went on, So that line kept getting

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higher and higher. And that tells you the guys they're

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betting big bucks are opposite that. And it's interesting just

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how that works sometimes.

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Speaker 2: It really is. And I'll just close with this. And

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I brought up Ronald because he's doing well with the

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NHL and he's data driven and what you talked about

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with knowing the players' names, look, Brian, I would love

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to do MLB content with you next year. I can't

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do what you and Adam and Tokyo Brandon do. I

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can't rattle off the names. But you know, nobody really

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knew that for most of the year, I was number

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four at the whole website in baseball, right because I

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probably besides the Blue Jays roster, I'm not giving you

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more than thirty names, like I have thirty forty names, right,

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Like that's just is what it is. But I'm data driven.

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It's pure numbers. I have my websites that I use

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and I've done well with it. Nobody would know because

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I'm not on video camera talking to and that's kind

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of a shame a little bit, but that's how it works.

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But hey, just because I know the fourth line guy

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on the Utah man myth doesn't mean that I know hockey.

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But let's hope it could help me out a little

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bit here. So one quick thing here, where was the

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comment ice EX. I like this comment from ICEX wait

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for their first life after a winning streak and then

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see what happens afterwards.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a good call.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of what happened with Pittsburgh, except for

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Brian was the man and he still hit a five

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percent on Pittsburgh and then they lost.

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Speaker 1: Every other game after that.

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Speaker 2: So you'll love to say it, all right, Brian, We

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got to keep this this show moved, but I love

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those discussions with you always. The next game on top

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here Edmonton and Philly. You know, we don't give pres

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credit a lot. I feel like just stopping there, but

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I gotta give credit with Press credit for one thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But one thing that Pres says is that, you know,

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betting on a team the next game after they win

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a game where they might not have deserved to win.

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And he's gotten that from people he's spoken to, But

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we can kind of use that with with Edmonton. Like, man,

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they have looked like shit lately, They've looked awful. But

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and then they beat Columbus in a game in which

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they got a short handed goal, they got a power play,

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they won an overtime, like it took every single inch

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of them to end up winning that game. But Brian,

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as we always know, the W is what matters. Now

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they go into Philadelphia. Carmine told a funny joke about

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his friend with the first name Mo and last named mentum.

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And I think that momentum has got to be in

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the building tonight for the Oilers. So that's kind of

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00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,920
how I'm feeling. What do you think? Are you buying

478
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,279
it or are you not believing what the Oilers did

479
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:21,960
in the last game is going to affect this one? Yeah?

480
00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,799
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the Oilers have disappointed me pretty much all season

481
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,880
long if you take a look at their numbers. As

482
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,279
good as this team is, and we kind of we

483
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,640
saw the same thing last year, didn't we Edwinson started

484
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,680
slowly and then they got hot and they started playing well,

485
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,839
and then they went all the way to the championship game.

486
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,759
Right now, they've got a nine goal different differential and

487
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:46,240
goal scoring this year. They played eight home games, nine

488
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,640
on the road. That's not enough to be an average team.

489
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,599
And if you take a look at their last ten

490
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,240
games four, three and three, that means they've lost six

491
00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:58,000
or the last ten. So it's still not a team

492
00:23:58,039 --> 00:24:01,039
I'm looking too back in this point range. At least

493
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,920
in Philadelphia. They're plus four on the season, but they

494
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,039
have played ten home games and only five on the road,

495
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:09,599
so you've got to give that a little bit of

496
00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:12,720
a look. And you're looking at the schedule for this game,

497
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,319
we've got Edmonton has lost three or four and that

498
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,960
game against Colorado, I really expected them to come out

499
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,640
and dominate that game because they had just gotten beat

500
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,640
by Colorado at home nine to one. Now that if

501
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,359
that's not going to wake you up and make you

502
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,359
come out and play hard. And they had the day

503
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,759
off between and then they had to go to overtime

504
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,720
that comeback against against Columbus and it was Columbus's if

505
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,720
I remember right, it was the last day of their

506
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:44,599
road trip. Granted it wasn't a good road trip. They

507
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:48,079
had not played well, but usually if you got a

508
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,880
team that has been bad on the road trip and

509
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,200
it's our last road trip game, kind of could see

510
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:58,920
them looking forward to coming back home. So I know,

511
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,519
I'm not giving out a lot of success there a

512
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,720
lot of credit for that, and guest Philadelphia and Philadelphia

513
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:07,200
has been a pretty big surprise for most of the season,

514
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,680
but they've had a lot of success at home. But

515
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,559
they've lost three straight games at home, and two of

516
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,240
those who were in regulation. Now they've got three days

517
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,039
off before playing the Oilers here and then they got

518
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,119
to go on the road and play on Friday and

519
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,759
Saturday at Saint Louis and Dallas. I like the situation

520
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,359
here for the home team in Philadelphia, and the way

521
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440
that Edmonton has been playing all season long, I just

522
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,559
can't trust him here. I like Philadelphia in the spot

523
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,039
you're only getting about you anywhere from plus one twelve

524
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:43,359
to plus one nineteen. But still the way Philadelphia has

525
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,880
played at home on the season, losing three straight at home,

526
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,359
having this amount of time off I expect a really

527
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,680
good effort out of Philadelphia, and I was disappointed with

528
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,480
that effort out of Edmonton, even in the victory over

529
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,599
Columbus last time.

530
00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is something to be concerned about.

531
00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:02,599
Speaker 1: Is the rest here?

532
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: For anybody like me that kind of leans towards the

533
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,319
oiler's side, is that You're right, Philadelphia, and any game

534
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,039
preview or breakdown going into this game will tell you

535
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:14,240
that the rest is kind of an advantage here. I

536
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,519
always find Wednesday is kind of an interesting night in

537
00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:20,319
the NHL. We all know that Tuesday, Thursday, Saturdays are

538
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,119
the busy days in the NHL typically, But if you

539
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,599
haven't played a game since let's say, maybe Saturday or

540
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,519
even Sunday, and then your first game is Wednesday, you

541
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:30,640
typically are playing a team that's already played a game

542
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,680
on Monday or Tuesday, which can make a little bit

543
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,160
of a difference. And of course that's the case for

544
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,599
a team like Philadelphia. Tonight so interesting to look at.

545
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,319
I just kind of I love the idea behind the

546
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,440
fact that Edmonton really didn't deserve it, you know. But

547
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:50,279
there were a lot of positive quotes. I'm not a

548
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,079
huge quotes handicapper, but there were a lot of positive

549
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,920
quotes in that locker room, and I kind of like it,

550
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,200
Like I kind of like how they didn't say.

551
00:26:58,039 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Ah, we didn't deserve it, we didn't deserve it. Whatever.

552
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: They were just like, all right, let's go. Let's get

553
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,920
this thing going. So we'll see. One thing about this

554
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,519
is that Philadelphia versus Edmonton, when you look at it

555
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:15,279
offensively on paper, I think that if they roll the

556
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:17,480
pucks out and say first to four or five wins,

557
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,880
Edmonton takes it. Because Philadelphia expected goals is their bottom

558
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,079
ten consistently, shooting percentage is not good either, so maybe

559
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,480
the rest will help them. We had a comment in here.

560
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:29,480
I'm not sure if I can find it. We'll see

561
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,599
if I can find it. Mm says the under in

562
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,200
Philly Edmonton is the best deal he's seen all week.

563
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,759
All Right, he likes the under in this one. Maybe

564
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:43,440
the rest factor, Brian plays into it. Maybe the rest

565
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,319
factor could help the under because a lot of times

566
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:49,400
I talk about fatigue leaving leading to overs. I know

567
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,799
you're more of a sides guy, but what do you

568
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:52,759
think here? Does the rest factor helped the under here?

569
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: Well, if you do like it, you want to grab

570
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,799
that six now because I'm staying for five and a

571
00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:02,680
halfs pop up so to keep people that are betting early,

572
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,480
which are usually guys that bet for a living. They

573
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,279
tend to like that under as well. And what you

574
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:12,720
were talking about teams having the time off. If a

575
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,599
team is on a winning streak and they have the

576
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,519
time off, I think that's a negative because you know

577
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:20,319
how it is. I mean, we've all been in high school.

578
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,160
You your team wins, everybody's patting me on the back

579
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,480
all season long and or all week long, and then

580
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:28,039
you go to the next game. You're feeling pretty good

581
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:30,640
about yourself. You don't have that same fire. But if

582
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,319
you've lost and you've got three days off. You know,

583
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,799
Philadelphia Sports it isn't New York, but I'm sure they

584
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,200
are given this team some hell and so I know

585
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:43,000
the Flyers are going to come out with a good effort.

586
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:45,759
And like you said, they don't put a lot of

587
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:47,839
shots on goals, so maybe the Flyers think they need

588
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,640
to win this in a low scoring game. Yeah, the under.

589
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:51,720
The under makes sense to me.

590
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,039
Speaker 1: And then we got a comment from ice x.

591
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:57,839
Speaker 2: I always love it. Can one can one trust skinner

592
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,960
or a picker? Then The next comment immediately was to lose. Yes,

593
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:02,079
so we can trust.

594
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:06,799
Speaker 1: Them to lose or to give you negative fantasy points. Yes.

595
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,799
Speaker 2: So that is the tough thing about looking at those

596
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:12,559
teams are those goalies, is that you never really know

597
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:14,839
what you're gonna get. Look, I'm gonna die on the

598
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,839
hill though. They're not gonna win a Cup with either

599
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,599
of those goalies. But I also think that it's not

600
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,680
their fault that they haven't won a Stanley Cup either.

601
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: Ye.

602
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,119
Speaker 2: Whether it's been defenseman or help on the offensive side

603
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,480
of things, it's not necessarily their help. That's not why

604
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,720
they lost, I think to the Panthers last year.

605
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: It's not.

606
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: It's interesting because everybody blames it all in the goalies

607
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,119
all the time. How many goalies have the Oilers been

608
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,079
through during this run where they've had McDavid. It's not

609
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:51,240
the goalies, it's the guys playing defense and they're not

610
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,440
putting themselves in good positions. And when you don't put

611
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,839
yourselves in good positions, you're gonna you're leaving your goalie

612
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:03,039
off to dry. And so that's why I just I

613
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:07,400
saw a little documentary on one of the goal of

614
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,319
Knight Sex goalies in every year. It's different every team

615
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:14,400
you go, you get traded from one team to another.

616
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,200
You're terrible of this team, all of a sudden, you're

617
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,519
great at the next team. It's all comes down to

618
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:20,720
the defense, which is one of the reasons why I

619
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,759
don't other than the elite goalies, I don't give a

620
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,759
lot of credit to that. They're all Any single game,

621
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,200
you can have a guy come out there with it

622
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,960
with a terrible, terrible goals against the averaging throw shut out.

623
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,079
It's just the way it is. It all depends on

624
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,599
how your team protects you and the team. The teams

625
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:40,079
with the young goalies and those kind of go those

626
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,920
kind of players, they've got to get back on defense.

627
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,119
Don't worry so much about offense. You've got to stop defensively,

628
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,119
and until you have that ability you can, you're not

629
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,039
complete team.

630
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: I think you might find it funny that I'm somehow

631
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:54,839
going to relate this back to the Toronto Blue Jays,

632
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,079
but I'm the one of the most one though, was

633
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:00,000
the most pissed. Not only it was one solo home run,

634
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,119
two solo home runs, three solo home runs, but when

635
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,079
I look back to it, how many runners did they

636
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:08,400
have in scoring position in Game six and Game seven. Right,

637
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,440
David Schneider was on National TV in Canada just a

638
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:14,720
couple of days ago, and he said, did the better

639
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,960
team not win the series? And he said, no, if

640
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,799
we were the better team, we would have won the series.

641
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,759
Speaker 1: And I everyone, obviously he's.

642
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,799
Speaker 2: Gonna respect his maturity and the classiness of it. At

643
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:27,400
the end of the day, though they had so many

644
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,720
runners on base, Brian, Yeah, does it suck that Hoffman

645
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,640
gave up that home run? Does it suck that you

646
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,960
know you saw you Savage come in and Bieber come in.

647
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,599
Of course it does. But the offense didn't show up

648
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:40,960
when they needed it to. And that's ultimately what it

649
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,880
comes down to. So you need those guys to show

650
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,359
up before we get to the last game here. Brian,

651
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,960
You've had success lately with your five percent plays. Carmine

652
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,359
cashed his five percent play last night. I do have

653
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:59,799
a five percent play going tonight. You know, everyone looks

654
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,839
at Wednesday is kind of a quieter night in the NHL, right,

655
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,400
and you think of those busy days Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday.

656
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,519
Sometimes I almost find it nice because you got a

657
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:13,440
handful of games to break down. Usually less than four,

658
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,880
you know, five or six games. You get to dive

659
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,400
deep into those games particularly, And I love this situational spot.

660
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,599
This is kind of a situational play for me, and

661
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,960
I really love this one on Wednesday, so I'm gonna

662
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,240
encourage people to go grab that. I feel like it's

663
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,559
It's been a good couple days here for me in

664
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,640
the NHL. Started off hot, we hit a wall, we

665
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,440
went into a slump, and now I'm starting to see

666
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,720
the board very very well. But we have this special

667
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:41,599
running right now here, Brian, and it's available for yourself,

668
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669
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days of picks for less than ten dollars per day.

670
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You guys can go to my page right now and

671
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,279
you can get my five percent NHL Big bet for

672
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,039
thirty five dollars. But look, I would love for anyone

673
00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:01,880
to do that. But for ninety nine dollars, you're gonna

674
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,519
get every single play I release across multiple sports for

675
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,559
less than ten dollars a day. And I'm on an

676
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:12,319
eleven and two NFL player prop run. We've cashed back

677
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,839
to back college basketball team total plays. You know, this

678
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,079
is an opportunity to get more than one sport. This

679
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,480
is an opportunity to get more than one. Five percent play.

680
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000
I got the CFL Gray Cup on Sunday night. I

681
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,279
know there's only a handful of you out there that

682
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,119
will be watching that game, but I got a best

683
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:32,240
bet planned in that game, and it's always a good game, Brian.

684
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:35,079
And you know, based on the last couple of primetime

685
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:39,039
games we've seen and everybody's beloved NFL, maybe you guys

686
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:41,960
should start watching the CFL a little bit because we

687
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,440
don't see we don't see zero zero games at halftime

688
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,440
by any means, and we see a little bit more action.

689
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,640
So guys, five percent play tonight, looking forward to it

690
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,640
in the NHL. Make sure you go grab that. If

691
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,599
you don't want to grab that, play really good idea

692
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,720
to buy that. And of course, for some reason, I

693
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:04,880
have Bill Krakenberger's promo up here, but it applies for

694
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,640
me as well. I guess I downloaded the wrong one,

695
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,360
So shut out to Bill. But you guys can go

696
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,280
to my page w T DUP slash am Brian. I'm

697
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,639
out here.

698
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill needs me to promote him.

699
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: All the respect to Bill, but I don't think that

700
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,519
guy needs me, So I'm just gonna pull that up.

701
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,360
What it's still there again. I'm giving Bill all the

702
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,039
love anyway. W t up buzz slash am. That's my

703
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,000
profile page. I got a five percent play going tonight.

704
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 3: Bill's in the back end. That's why he's getting the sales.

705
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,159
He continues to promote himself. No, I know Bill, he's

706
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,039
a great guy. I've known it for many years and

707
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,519
all success to him. But yeah, he's on every show

708
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,199
out there. I'm surprised he's not on the hot. He

709
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,039
even makes an appears on the Hockey show. He doesn't

710
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:51,559
even handicap hockey, but yeah, talking about being hot. Yesterday

711
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:55,960
did the show and my play was Washington in the

712
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,000
first period and they win that one. Nothing. I saw Marco,

713
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,679
who's having a really nice hockey season. He used Washington.

714
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:04,239
He is a free play yesterday and they win the

715
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,400
game straight up. I also had a four percent play

716
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,199
on in Winnipeg yesterday, so that one, and that brings

717
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,679
my NHL record to seven and one to last eight.

718
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,400
My three percents in higher and every sport or on

719
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,400
a thirteen and three run and so we won that again.

720
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:24,280
Yesterday College football twenty eight and thirteen run. And I've

721
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,800
really dominated the MAC over the years. I went to

722
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,840
Akron University, and I know the MAC like the back

723
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,320
of my hand. Swept the MAC the last two weeks

724
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,119
in these midweek games, yesterday's games, I did not find

725
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:36,800
any edges in, but I am going to have a

726
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,000
playout tonight and so that ninety I think it's ninety

727
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,800
nine for sow days or something to that factors ten days,

728
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,280
ninety nine for ten days. That is a great deal.

729
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,800
And right now I'm hot as hell. And even in

730
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,199
the NBA, I haven't put on many plays going back

731
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,559
to last year twelve and six in the NBA, So yeah,

732
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,400
I've been very selective on my selection or my on

733
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,400
my plays, but we've had a lot of success doing it.

734
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,800
And I have at least two plays going today. I'm

735
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,800
not gonna have a five percent. I'm very tight with

736
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,239
those five percenters, but I'm sure i'll have a couple

737
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,599
in the next ten days. So that's a really good

738
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:12,639
deal if you're looking to do that, whether you buy

739
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,440
any of our handicappers, it's a way to go. And

740
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,840
if you've got a five in the NHL, I'm gonna

741
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,840
talk to you after the show. Make sure see what

742
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,719
you got because because I'd like to get a little

743
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,159
piece of that.

744
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: Well, stay hot, Brian, you're seeing the board very well.

745
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:29,920
That Winnipeg call was great last night. I liked that

746
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,599
play as well as close to getting the window on

747
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:35,760
that one and Washington way to catch that Carroll. You know,

748
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,760
I wanted to ask you today because I know we're

749
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,760
long past that game, but do you kind of think

750
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,199
that for similar reasons to like in the Rangers, it's

751
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,159
kind of similar to like in the Capitals last night.

752
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:48,840
I feel like the handicap is very similar.

753
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,519
Speaker 3: It is a little bit similar. Carolina had been a

754
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,639
team comes back from a successful road trippic They were

755
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:58,360
okay in the roadship and then they come back home

756
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,760
and they've been very successful at home. They got a

757
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,559
team coming in Washington and Washington, Oh, this team can

758
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:07,239
continues to blow leads. They're not any good. Washington was

759
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,719
the team that got hustled them yesterday. And that's really

760
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,079
what you want if you follow a team, and I

761
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:14,599
know you do this with Montreal, I do it with Vegas.

762
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,719
I can tell by the hustle that they're playing if

763
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,480
they're going to be in that game, or if they

764
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,920
just don't have it early. Another reason why we love

765
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,920
betting live hockey, live sports, led baseball, football. That's really

766
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,159
the way it's going, you know, even though in the

767
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,079
United States and Canada, especially the United States, there's a

768
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,119
lot more pregame action. If you go to Europe, especially

769
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,320
with the soccer, everybody's betting in game all it's like

770
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,119
seventy percent of their bets are in game. In the

771
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,480
United States, seventy percent of the bets of pre game.

772
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:51,159
So we're the United States, like in many many reasons,

773
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360
are a little bit behind the times in this country.

774
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the amount of in game bets that we see,

775
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,960
it's just growing and growing more and more. Also those

776
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,559
parlays and all that good stuff as well. Bruce, I

777
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:03,880
gotta mention to you, I'm one of the original ice guys.

778
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,199
Speaker 1: I was on that show as well.

779
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,599
Speaker 2: I was with them, And we have no competition with

780
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:12,440
any NHL betting show. We love everybody else that's handicapping.

781
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,639
We're friends with them. Alex used to be a part

782
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:18,440
of Puck Time actually, so hey, we've got no competent.

783
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:20,800
We want everybody to win. We want everybody to win,

784
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,159
and Brian, I gotta do this to you. I hate

785
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:26,159
to pull the press here and keep promoting, but there

786
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:28,559
it is, just so you guys know. It's applicable for

787
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,920
myself as well, and you can get it at Brian's

788
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,599
page as well. WT dot buzz backslash bet l for

789
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,239
Brian and slash am for me. All Right, last game

790
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,599
of the night here, Chicago. This team's look pretty good

791
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,320
and their last couple of games here. But is it

792
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,280
a tough situation for them? In this particular game, devil's

793
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,519
offul loss, but it was a tight loss against the Islanders.

794
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,159
What do you think here, Brian about this one? Is

795
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,559
Chicago the real dude? We talked about the concept of

796
00:38:57,639 --> 00:38:59,400
hey is this team good? Are they not good?

797
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: So?

798
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,599
Speaker 2: Hey, what's your take on Chicago? Are they pretenders or

799
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:04,599
are they contenders?

800
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,599
Speaker 3: Well? I talked about Edmonton earlier, being that twenty five

801
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:12,239
and a half more points expected on the season, and

802
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,440
this one is twenty one for New Jersey, twenty one

803
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,360
points better than Chicago. If you take a look at

804
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,840
what New Jersey's done, they've had a very successful season.

805
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,360
They've got the most points in the Eastern Conference, right now,

806
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,320
but as opposed to Carolina, who is a plus fourteen

807
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,119
goal differential, the Devils were only plus seven. They played

808
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,599
eight games at home. They've been fantastic at all seven

809
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,000
to zho to one, have yet to lose in regulation home.

810
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:37,760
They're only four and four.

811
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:38,079
Speaker 1: On the road.

812
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: If you take a look at their last ten games overall,

813
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,239
six and four. I always count the loss in overtime

814
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,320
as a loss, because I don't it is a loss

815
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,000
when you're looking about it in that range. So they

816
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:55,719
come in here and New Jersey. From a schedule standpoint,

817
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:58,920
they have one two of the last three. But they

818
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,599
did lose last time out to the Islanders at home,

819
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:04,800
and that game went to overtime. And in fact, if

820
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,639
you take a look at what they did at home, yeah,

821
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:09,800
they beat Pittsburgh, but they had to do it in

822
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,800
a shootout. They win the game two to one. When

823
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,440
you're Montreal Canadians, and I believe I was on Montreal,

824
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,280
I'm like, if I remember, it might have been on

825
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,760
Montreal in that game, but they had to go to

826
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,159
overtime to beat Montreal. So yes, they have done very

827
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,119
well at home this year, but that tells me they

828
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:29,800
haven't been playing that well. They were able to beat

829
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,320
the Kings in the previous road road trip, but then

830
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,559
they lost second to back to back to Anaheim. And

831
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:40,480
Anaheim's got a lot of good, young, fast players, and

832
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,719
anytime Anaheim is going to play a team in the

833
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,079
second of a back to back, I think you could

834
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,639
make money by betting on Anaheim just blindly in that regard.

835
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:51,719
But when you take a look at Chicago on the

836
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,280
season and you just look at the numbers you take,

837
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,360
you take away the names on the jerseys, like as

838
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,599
I mentioned, the Devil's a plus seven set a home games,

839
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:04,880
eight road games. Look at Chicago on the season, Chicago

840
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:08,239
on the year, I only have nineteen points, get part

841
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,079
of the twenty three that the Devils have. But if

842
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:14,360
you take a look at their goal differential, they're plus

843
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,039
twelve on the season, and yet they've only played six

844
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:21,920
games at home, ten on the road. That tells me

845
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:25,559
that this team is legit at least right now. And

846
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,480
if you take a look at their schedule, they are

847
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,480
off of three straight wins, all on the road, and

848
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:36,400
it's their first game back. So I like Chicago. I

849
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,440
hate the situation here for Chicago because they come back

850
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,239
from that road check. I believe they went three and three,

851
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,000
but they won the last three. They beat Vancouver, they

852
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:48,840
beat Calgary, they beat Detroit, all by multiple goals, three,

853
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:53,159
four and four. Now they're at home, where traditionally, if

854
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:55,440
you've watched them the last few years, with this young team,

855
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,440
they play much better at home than they do on

856
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,920
the road. They may be a little bit full of themselves,

857
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:03,280
and that's going to keep me away from Chicago in

858
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,360
this game. But this this Lackhawk's team has been very

859
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,360
good and we'll see if I'm kind of hoping that

860
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,280
New Jersey blows them out tonight so we could continue

861
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,519
to get better value on Chicago because I want to

862
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:20,000
be part of this team. It's going to be a

863
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:23,159
while until they're going to be a favorite against some

864
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:27,000
of these teams. And but I hate the situation tonight.

865
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those ones here, Brian, where

866
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,039
I think like, if both teams were like well rested,

867
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,280
neutral zet neutral site, you're getting a price that's pretty reasonable.

868
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Everybody would want to be all over Chicago here.

869
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: But situationally, you kind of look at You're like, Okay,

870
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,840
what's going on here? I'll tell you what I think

871
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,199
I like the over in this game, though I think that,

872
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,559
you know, Chicago, they have been how do I say it,

873
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:56,960
like falsely good defensively lately. I guess I don't know

874
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,400
if that's a good way of putting it. They have

875
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:06,639
been like un deniably, I guess, better defensively than they

876
00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:09,079
probably should be over their last couple of games. And

877
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:10,880
I know that you and I said earlier in the show,

878
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,440
a win is a win, but you also have to

879
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,280
look at who will win. Is over for a certain

880
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,159
team in Chicago, Hey, good for them. You put up

881
00:43:16,199 --> 00:43:18,800
some goals on this team and on that team. I

882
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,599
think everybody's scoring goals on a team like the Predators

883
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:24,440
right now, and certain opportunities to play certain lighter teams

884
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,079
like Vancouver.

885
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But I do like the over.

886
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: You know, back off a road trip, Chicago's going to

887
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,320
contribute to the scoring in this one, but Devils are

888
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,920
going to be motivated as well. Devils are mostly a

889
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,639
team that I want to look towards at home because

890
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:38,079
of the last change, their great center depth. But Carmine

891
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,119
talked last year about how this was actually not a

892
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,000
bad road team whatsoever.

893
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:44,559
Speaker 1: This is a pretty good road team. As well, So

894
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:46,280
that will be it for the show. Here.

895
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,639
Speaker 2: Brian will circle back to you for some final thoughts.

896
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:50,719
I want to mention guys, I got a parlay. I'm

897
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,800
waiting for my graphic to be created here. I got

898
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,199
to have that done here soon for you. The same

899
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,400
game parlay or the prop parlay is coming out to

900
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:01,440
plus nine to seventeen for tonight. Sometimes they're like plus

901
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920
three hundred, sometimes they're plus five hundred, whatever they might be.

902
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,480
And we always met while you guys just have a

903
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,840
little sprinkle on it. I got a few shots on

904
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,639
goal and a few points in this one. It's involving

905
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:13,840
two games, three picks from one to two from the other.

906
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,679
And yes, this is a recreational This is a fun

907
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,199
thing to follow each night. This isn't a regular size

908
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,960
bet by any means, but you guys can follow me

909
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:26,119
at McGinnis picks at MCI and n I S picks.

910
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:29,159
Speaker 1: Brian, I do believe yours is B Leonard Sports? Is

911
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:29,960
that correct?

912
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,639
Speaker 3: B Leonard Sports? And I do want to point out

913
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,280
I don't I don't do the props. If I find something,

914
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,840
I'll put it up, but that's not my major handicapping.

915
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,400
Why change what's worked well over over the years. But

916
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,880
I will say that if you're handicapping the card today

917
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,320
and you're here watching this and I asked, I asked

918
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:54,719
Andrew about how you treat how many games into the

919
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,039
season do you take a look at dropping off the

920
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:03,599
preseason expectations, if you go into the the YouTube situation

921
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,880
for the replay, let us know, let us know what

922
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,760
your number is that you look or if you don't

923
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,400
even pay attention to it, or if when the season

924
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,480
starts that's it. I wait and see it, because I

925
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:15,559
know Marco does a lot of that. He waits time,

926
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:18,840
He doesn't get into action early on, and he just

927
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,119
sees how the teams are playing this year. Let us

928
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:25,320
know what you the way you treat those and uh,

929
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,440
maybe we can learn something from you, guys, because we've

930
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,480
got a really smart group of people to watch the

931
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:30,159
show every day.

932
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: It's it's awesome because everybody approaches it differently. That's the

933
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,840
best part. But Carmen and I have talked about it.

934
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,079
I like the word he used, landmine. You know, there's

935
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:41,039
all these land mines earlier in the season. You got

936
00:45:41,039 --> 00:45:43,559
to be aware of. I always say, the best time

937
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,719
to bet the NHL is January. I feel like you

938
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,199
have a very true identity about which each team is

939
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,519
or what they are probably post Christmas. And this year

940
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,039
is going to be very interesting because it's going to

941
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:58,480
be an Olympic break, Brian, which kind of sucks for

942
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:00,719
us on puck time. We'll see if I end up

943
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,400
doing any hockey content for the Olympics. But Olympic break,

944
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,239
we'll see how that goes and how which teams get

945
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,760
affected by that. But guys, Brian's been red hot. Make

946
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,039
sure you get his plays at WTT bus slash bet L.

947
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,800
And also that deal is great for both of us.

948
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Get ten days of plays for less than ten dollars

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a day works for both of our packages. And we're

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both doing multiple sports, not just hockey, So that will

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do it. Guys, five percent play for me tonight. I

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know it's a small board, but I really do like it.

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Thanks as always for joining me here, Brian, and guys,

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special shout out again to Carmine. Carmine cashing that five

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percent play. He is in the chat right now and

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he's telling you, guys to hit the like button. So hey,

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if you've gotta take one piece of advice from Carmine today.

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Speaker 1: That's the advice you gotta take. Hit that like.

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Speaker 2: Button, show us all right, yeah, come on, especially off

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that five percent win. We appreciate it, and guys, show

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us some love. So thanks for watching. We'll see you

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guys next time right here on puck time.

