Speaker 1: You know, when you sponsor an African child or a
Speaker 1: donkey or something, and they send you sort of photos
Speaker 1: of updates of how that child's going.
Speaker 2: I don't, but I'm familiar with the concept.
Speaker 1: So with you know, with my tax and how it's
Speaker 1: being spent at the moment, I'd like for at least
Speaker 1: people to send me an update of, you know, how
Speaker 1: my tax has been spent. Your tax has purchased five
Speaker 1: of the lanyards required for this government office, or you
Speaker 1: have purchased one half of one screw for an aircraft carrier.
Speaker 2: Just come to Harlowe on a Wednesday at like one
Speaker 2: thirty and I'll show you exactly where it's going. Vapes
Speaker 2: mostly bapes. Super Strength blogger seems to be quite popular.
Speaker 2: I think super Strength ciders down.
Speaker 1: Is Kestrel still going?
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't seen what was the what's that one?
Speaker 2: Is it? Frosty Jacks?
Speaker 1: Frosty Jacks?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was a classic or a classic.
Speaker 1: Did Book Fast ever make it to Essex?
Speaker 2: No? No, it doesn't really, it doesn't travel. Well, that's
Speaker 2: that's the trouble. You know. It's like some of the
Speaker 2: beers you get that you know, they only taste good
Speaker 2: in the in the country of origin. They don't travel well.
Speaker 2: And that's like Buckfast. It's it's great there, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't travel well. And the connoisseurs that that drink it,
Speaker 2: they know that too.
Speaker 1: Someone is screaming at their radio now. But book Fast
Speaker 1: actually comes all the way from Devon to Glasgow?
Speaker 2: Does it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's made in It's made by monks in Devon?
Speaker 2: Is it really? What are they doing.
Speaker 1: Doing something strange to Glasgow?
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I don't think I've ever had Buckfast.
Speaker 1: You're missing out? Really?
Speaker 2: Are I got given? What's it called magnum?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm?
Speaker 2: Have you had those?
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the ice cream.
Speaker 2: It's popular with the African community. It's like a tonic wine.
Speaker 1: Is it your other family that we talked about.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, Magnum, Magnum tonic. So it is. It is
Speaker 2: technically a product of Jamaica. I felt like I'd almost
Speaker 2: been initiated. My brethren turned to me and cracked open
Speaker 2: a Magnum and passed it to me, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: say less, fam, I was one of them.
Speaker 1: We don't really get that experience up here. We get
Speaker 1: Rex and lager Rex and lagers made a comeback, which
Speaker 1: is it's had a mixed reception, let's say, because some
Speaker 1: people are glad to see it go.
Speaker 2: You travel about a bit. Is there is there any
Speaker 2: any local brew that you have that you think, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'd love if if this was back home.
Speaker 1: No, because I mean I can't remember that the brand
Speaker 1: of any sort of small stubby lager or anything I've
Speaker 1: had overseas. Because you know, genuinely sort of quite glad
Speaker 1: to see that it arrived in a sealed bottle, which
Speaker 1: means it's a very good chance it hasn't been tampered
Speaker 1: with or just refilled at the back of the restaurant
Speaker 1: before it came to you. Yeah, that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: just the mild relief. And is it is it got
Speaker 1: sweat of ice coming out side of it. Yeah, that'll
Speaker 1: be fine.
Speaker 2: So I tried to get one once. That was what
Speaker 2: was it called? It had a witch on it quin
Speaker 2: quintine quinnen quinteine beer.
Speaker 1: I don't know, queen beer good for malaria?
Speaker 2: Then ah, yes, it's quintin q u I n t
Speaker 2: i n e quentin abusing it's a Belgian beer. It's
Speaker 2: got a witch with a broom on it and it's
Speaker 2: really good in Belgium, and if you get it in
Speaker 2: a bottle and take it home, it doesn't taste anywhere
Speaker 2: near as good. And I don't know why, but it
Speaker 2: just doesn't. But it's so nice when you're out there,
Speaker 2: it's so nice. On draft it's yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 2: And there's a few local ones UK ones that are
Speaker 2: that are bangers.
Speaker 1: There is a whole art to picking a beer based
Speaker 1: on what the picture on the label is. You know,
Speaker 1: it says about six percent and it's got a picture.
Speaker 1: I quite like, I'll go for that. Please.
Speaker 2: They don't do pictures you like now it all looks
Speaker 2: like tattoo artists. Years ago, it used to be like
Speaker 2: goblins and mushrooms and shit that you think, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure I should even touch that. Actually, the artwork
Speaker 2: of the of Bb so Bb, the writer I used
Speaker 2: to write about field sports and whatnot. His artwork is
Speaker 2: that kind of weird psychedelic kind of trolls and little
Speaker 2: toadstools and all this kind of like folklory stuff. You think,
Speaker 2: where am I going to end up? What ditch will
Speaker 2: I end up? If I do?
Speaker 1: Because I make you feel a bit peculiar, sort of
Speaker 1: you're not quite sure what's going to happen next. It's
Speaker 1: sort of comforting but horrifying at the same time. I
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: It was a very eighties, eighties nineties thing, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: There's a sort of there's a very interesting aesthetic for
Speaker 1: an nineteen eighties British Christmas, which is either decorations from
Speaker 1: the seventies that are still hanging around for a long
Speaker 1: time or some weird, sort of muted color stuff of
Speaker 1: the eighties.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the smell? They all had that smell.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're sitting at home, you don't have
Speaker 2: to have synesthesia to just remember what the Christmas box
Speaker 2: of the nineties smelt like, Like just that tinsel smell.
Speaker 2: You know exactly what I'm talking about too. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: got a tinsel plastic smell that you just go, ah,
Speaker 2: that's Christmas.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, as an eagle eared listeners may have noticed,
Speaker 1: we are down to just two of us for this
Speaker 1: week because Richard Nigas is.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's gone, He's gone out of whit round the
Speaker 2: whole way round the villages of Suffolk because SpaceX are
Speaker 2: ipo ing tomorrow. So he's got, He's got the whole
Speaker 2: church collection plate, everything, it's all gone in is pro Elon.
Speaker 2: He's going to get the first rocket out of Suffolk
Speaker 2: when this whole thing blows over.
Speaker 1: He's actually in West Sussex, which is one of those
Speaker 1: sort of counties I don't think really exists, or at
Speaker 1: least it doesn't exist as a workplace, because I've never
Speaker 1: been to West Sussex and seen anyone at work. Ever,
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone does. I was in That's a
Speaker 1: whole county really needed for the first third of the episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about the French. They've had it too good
Speaker 2: for too long.
Speaker 1: Well, the French is too easy. Yeah, they just watch
Speaker 1: what they do and make comments on.
Speaker 2: It and take long breaks when they're meant to be
Speaker 2: in air traffic control.
Speaker 1: A quarter of our country's economy into this one line
Speaker 1: of forts and defenses. Oh ship, the Germans have gone
Speaker 1: round it. What we do? What do we do now?
Speaker 2: Fair?
Speaker 1: Fair niche reference anyway back in the room. What have
Speaker 1: you been up to, mister callum?
Speaker 2: But I've done a lot of fishing, Like my almost
Speaker 2: my yearly quota of fishing has been filled up in
Speaker 2: the past seven days.
Speaker 1: It's right a broad license really, shouldn't you?
Speaker 2: Well, I got I got two you have to get
Speaker 2: so you have to get two now. Yeah, so if
Speaker 2: you want to fish three rods, you have to get
Speaker 2: two rod licenses. Outrageous. Well it's not outrageous. I mean
Speaker 2: it should be like if you want one rod, you
Speaker 2: should have one rod license, and then you should have
Speaker 2: three if you want three rod licenses. Not giving the
Speaker 2: AA any ideas, but like you know, the per rods
Speaker 2: should be the thing, and then you've got to get
Speaker 2: another one for your salmon and game. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: have been fly fishing, so May June time is just
Speaker 2: a solid time to start fly fishing. Really you've got
Speaker 2: lots of flies hatching and also carp like to go
Speaker 2: on the surface, so you can catch carp on the fly.
Speaker 2: So I went to the River Test and I fished
Speaker 2: on the River Test, which is probably one of the
Speaker 2: best rivers maybe in the world.
Speaker 1: Which bit was it the upper Test or there's a
Speaker 1: middle and the lower isn't there.
Speaker 2: The Lower Test? And I've never fished the lower before?
Speaker 1: Is that below fording Bridge? Is that the one? Is
Speaker 1: that town that's on like one long Street, which is
Speaker 1: all cafes and fishing shops.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is below that one. Yeah, it's definitely below
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, what's that called stockbridge? So below there
Speaker 2: the lower test. And the interesting thing about the lower
Speaker 2: test is a lot of the fish migrate out to sea,
Speaker 2: spend a long time out in sea, and then come
Speaker 2: back into the river. So I call they don't stock
Speaker 2: rainbow trout. But I caught this rainbow trout that was
Speaker 2: insanely long and it was only sort of like five
Speaker 2: and a half pounds, but it was an eel surely. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know. Basically if you'd have caught it in a
Speaker 2: commercial fishery, it could have gone more like fifteen twenty
Speaker 2: pounds because it would have just been absolutely enormous. The
Speaker 2: length of it was insane and in fast flying water
Speaker 2: on a on a five or a six weight, can't
Speaker 2: remember what mine is. Yeah, it went, we went pretty well.
Speaker 2: And even the trout catching sort of had a three
Speaker 2: three and a half pound brownie and I caught that
Speaker 2: on a mayfly. And they called them slob trout because
Speaker 2: they head down to the head down to the sea
Speaker 2: or brackish water, eat lots of shrimp and they kind
Speaker 2: of just look they've become like a strange shape. They're
Speaker 2: not like, they're not like little wild brownies, They're just
Speaker 2: a trained shape. One and yeah, but I managed to
Speaker 2: catch them on the mayfly fly, one on a nymph
Speaker 2: and one on like this big fly thing that that
Speaker 2: I just found in the box.
Speaker 1: So are you changing up your flies as the day
Speaker 1: gets on? Sort of match what would be patching in
Speaker 1: the evening? Because is it caddice in the evening?
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not the pro at this, but
Speaker 2: basically something.
Speaker 1: Made for magazines and things.
Speaker 2: Not about fly fishing. It's what about cart fishing, which
Speaker 2: is like you know, peasants stuff and av Yeah, teller
Speaker 2: bivvy put the TV. So yeah, basically that's it. Mood
Speaker 2: or one of those toasty makers. How was it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jesus have any microrave motle straight in the So they
Speaker 2: start as like little wormy little bug things and then
Speaker 2: they emerge and they come up in the water and
Speaker 2: then they break out. So the mayfly is obviously the
Speaker 2: big one and they they emerge, so you fish nim
Speaker 2: for those when they're not actually hatched. There's certain changes
Speaker 2: in the water conditions fresh water water temperature, but the
Speaker 2: mayfly spends three hundred and sixty four days in its
Speaker 2: sort of little wormy stage, then is a caddice, and
Speaker 2: then it eventually turns into a mayfly and it lasts
Speaker 2: one day and then it goes. So it's fishing. I
Speaker 2: think just all of a sudden, right towards the end
Speaker 2: of the day, the sun just dropped and come out,
Speaker 2: and then it just turned on, and there was all
Speaker 2: these mayflies starting to come down, and you could just
Speaker 2: see them dipping up and down in the low sun,
Speaker 2: and they suddenly it just switched on. It's so bizarre
Speaker 2: to be there and you might spend an hour at
Speaker 2: the river and there's nothing rising, and then in ten
Speaker 2: minutes feel a bit of warm sun on your neck,
Speaker 2: and then you just start seeing all this fly life
Speaker 2: come alive in the space of ten minutes. So I
Speaker 2: saw I saw one rise on the corner, quickly turned
Speaker 2: changed the fly into a mayfly plattern, put it right
Speaker 2: over the top, and sure enough I had a three
Speaker 2: pound brown trout, which is pretty cool. It's just, yeah,
Speaker 2: fly fishing such an interesting art form. I'm far from
Speaker 2: mastering it. And this is this river as well. Is
Speaker 2: it's mad because the water is so unbelievably fast, and
Speaker 2: you put a fly across the river and within some
Speaker 2: of it, it's like within seconds, it's drifted the whole
Speaker 2: way down and it's next to you. And you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to fish downstream. You have to fish upstream. And
Speaker 2: you've got to try and present these flies and keep
Speaker 2: them on the surface, but not that let your line
Speaker 2: swing everything, because if your line swings everything around in
Speaker 2: the water, it's like dragging the fly across the surface.
Speaker 2: So you've got to try and present it across and
Speaker 2: let it stay so it's not it's not being dragged
Speaker 2: and doesn't look unnatural. Try and make it look as
Speaker 2: good as possible. And a person that's very, very green
Speaker 2: at fly fishing, I get the concept. I get the idea.
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of experience in fishing, but actually
Speaker 2: doing this stuff, I don't have any experience. So it's
Speaker 2: really it's a it's a tricky old business. But you know,
Speaker 2: I caught I caught free on the test in an
Speaker 2: evening and then and then I caught two on the
Speaker 2: on the nadder as well, doing pretty similar tactics. Mayfly
Speaker 2: waiting for waiting for a hatch and then I got
Speaker 2: annoyed with the mayfly because they've got these great big
Speaker 2: wings and they sort of spin around and they do
Speaker 2: all this. They just got well annoying. So I ended
Speaker 2: up fishing just a tiny little white fly that I
Speaker 2: like the look of, because it just couldn't be bothered
Speaker 2: to keep trying to float this fly that kept sinking
Speaker 2: and being annoying. So whatever. People are like, oh, what
Speaker 2: did you catch that on? And I'm like, they've got
Speaker 2: all these names for flies, bully, bugger, dusty miller, you
Speaker 2: name it. There's just something and I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I think I know about four different flies, and then
Speaker 2: my knowledge is gone. Someone will write as something, oh
Speaker 2: why didn't you try a why don't you try a
Speaker 2: blue caddice nymph? You're like, no idea, drop me out.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. I'll have to
Speaker 2: google that. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The person who wasn't there looking with a situation where
Speaker 1: they had no sort of effect on the outcome of
Speaker 1: it whatsoever, definitely has the right answer for you, though,
Speaker 1: in terms of what you should have done instead.
Speaker 2: Oh, always, always, Oh they take this one here. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's that I honestly, don't think it's that
Speaker 2: big a deal. Like I get you want to match
Speaker 2: what they're eating. Yeah, but really if it's white while
Speaker 2: a black barn and a big barn a small one,
Speaker 2: I mean you can pretty much.
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is that the fish have to
Speaker 1: be there in the first place. That is true because
Speaker 1: all my fishing now is on the coast pretty much,
Speaker 1: either on the boat or off rocks and off marks
Speaker 1: on the land and state of tide makes a much
Speaker 1: bigger difference than the than the gear you're using, or
Speaker 1: just are they feeding or are they just mooching around
Speaker 1: being lazy, because that two different, two different events would
Speaker 1: happen in the same spot.
Speaker 2: So I did actually go bass fishing as well. So
Speaker 2: everyone hates hates the word sea bass, but you've got
Speaker 2: to cross qualify it as sea bass, the collect bass
Speaker 2: in the sea from now and.
Speaker 1: Call it Hampshire trout. Did you.
Speaker 2: I might have done. No, you call them, yeah, you
Speaker 2: just call them trout, I suppose. But if you say bass,
Speaker 2: everyone thinks you're Everyone just thinks of like an American
Speaker 2: large bouth bass.
Speaker 1: Don't they other one? The billy big mouth bond, the
Speaker 1: toylet on the wall.
Speaker 2: I used to love that. I did that the other
Speaker 2: day as well, and then someone told me that you
Speaker 2: should fish for them like you fish for perch. So
Speaker 2: instead of doing what I usually do, which is like
Speaker 2: skip lures really high in the water, I fished a
Speaker 2: thing called a z man chatter bait, which is like
Speaker 2: what the Americans use.
Speaker 1: This, chatter bait. Yeah, don't google that.
Speaker 2: No, you're thinking of something different.
Speaker 1: Chatter space bait. Uh No, I think it's all one
Speaker 1: word brilliant. The transcript for this is going to be
Speaker 1: great on the website now, fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so chatter bait.
Speaker 1: There's a few hundred people trying to google that and
Speaker 1: finding out we need a VPN in order to see it.
Speaker 2: I remember that back in the day it was great
Speaker 2: websit before they to be fair, my webcow quality on
Speaker 2: here doesn't look that far off. This could be. This
Speaker 2: could be one of those chats.
Speaker 1: I know somebody who worked through their History Masters whilst
Speaker 1: they were doing webcam stuff as a male, and they
Speaker 1: paid for sort of some of our living costs on it.
Speaker 2: Well, can we do that while podcasting?
Speaker 1: That's what we do every week anyway, I don't like
Speaker 1: you anyway, where are we fishing?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I fish for the fish for those like
Speaker 2: a fish for perch. So I laid it sync to
Speaker 2: the bottom and I was just dragging it along the bottom,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you just saw fish
Speaker 2: picking it up and moving it. But they clearly weren't
Speaker 2: big enough. They must have been the schoolies just taking
Speaker 2: the just taking the lure and playing with it. And
Speaker 2: then I just left it, let them do what they
Speaker 2: want to do with it. And I kept jigging it
Speaker 2: and putting a bit of motion into it, and I
Speaker 2: could see fish were going for it, but they obviously
Speaker 2: weren't big enough. And then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: get a big pull on the rod and that was it.
Speaker 2: I had my first keeper. So yeah, I've done a
Speaker 2: lot of fish cooking in the past in the past week.
Speaker 1: They're quite meaty when you get them in as well,
Speaker 1: aren't they beast? Particularly you needed quite a bit of
Speaker 1: space to deal with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, they're hard work getting it in and
Speaker 2: then having to to dispatch while in the kayak.
Speaker 1: Having measured it carefully of course, Well.
Speaker 2: What's the legal limit? Forty five centimeters?
Speaker 1: Right, it's forty two up here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, forty two, which coincidentally happens to be elbow
Speaker 2: to finger. So if I got a I'm forty, I've
Speaker 2: got a forty five centimeter elbow to finger. So you
Speaker 2: do not really need to measure such things. Have If
Speaker 2: you've ever curious, just measure your forearm to your top
Speaker 2: of your finger and you probably find that you might
Speaker 2: have a good guide of whether you can get a
Speaker 2: keeper or not.
Speaker 1: Well, it depends how tall you are, because your arm
Speaker 1: length is proportional to your height.
Speaker 2: I know. But also people can have little, tiny stump arms,
Speaker 2: can't they as well? Little? I mean just like I
Speaker 2: didn't that wasn't like a particular drug that was available
Speaker 2: in the years ago.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're ever at a party with other able
Speaker 1: bodied people and you're you're short, something to do. Get
Speaker 1: everyone to work out their ape index. So you lie
Speaker 1: on the floor, arms sort of stretched out like like
Speaker 1: Jesus on the cross, and measure finger tips to fingertip
Speaker 1: and then measure that person's height and it should be
Speaker 1: within a few centimeters. But some people have a longer
Speaker 1: arm spam than their height, and some people are have
Speaker 1: a shorter arm span than their height. So it's whether
Speaker 1: you've got a positive or negative APE index. So some
Speaker 1: people have sort of orangutan arms and they've got long
Speaker 1: arms and a short, short body.
Speaker 2: I think I've probably got quite long arms compared to
Speaker 2: my body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are like some of the giant squid, aren't you.
Speaker 2: I know one go who's like mister Tickle. His arms
Speaker 2: are so unsolifedly long. Every time I I just think,
Speaker 2: what happened to you?
Speaker 1: We just trying to hold onto two trains at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a funny guy.
Speaker 1: I've got a request for help. Yeah, just kick me
Speaker 1: off this show. No, I've got a request for help
Speaker 1: amongst our listeners. I am in need of a farm
Speaker 1: or a farm type place somewhere in South Shropshire, Herefordshire, Warwickshire,
Speaker 1: top end of Gloucestershire bottom corner was the top end
Speaker 1: of Oxfordshire, somewhere in that sort of midlands zone. And
Speaker 1: I need someone with a farm or something similar where
Speaker 1: I can take some chefs, not sort of posh, high
Speaker 1: end go out with calum to do stuff type chefs.
Speaker 1: These are chefs who are is their first hospitality venue
Speaker 1: that they're working in. This work we're doing with the restaurant.
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to say the name because it's a
Speaker 1: fairly big chain up here, but they're all sort of
Speaker 1: a independently owned.
Speaker 2: It's not Harvester Fat.
Speaker 1: We already train them up here doing some wild food
Speaker 1: things and outdoor cooking and that kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: they have a request to do something for their cluster
Speaker 1: of restaurants that's kind of in the West Midlands or
Speaker 1: the southern part of the Midlands, so I think sort
Speaker 1: of Milton Keynes is the furthest south they go. But
Speaker 1: I need somewhere where I've got a farm bit where
Speaker 1: they can go and sort of do a farm tour
Speaker 1: and a walk see where some of that food is
Speaker 1: coming from, and then we have a bit of a
Speaker 1: cooking session at the end. So get in touch with
Speaker 1: me via the podcast or my social media. It's all
Speaker 1: in the show notes in the links below. If you
Speaker 1: have somewhere that can help or you know someone that
Speaker 1: can help. There's some money in it as well as
Speaker 1: a fee, but I just need it for a couple
Speaker 1: of days in the summer, really between now and the
Speaker 1: end of October. Please get in touch with me because
Speaker 1: I might have promised something I haven't actually got a
Speaker 1: venue for, so help. Yeah, there's nothing like desperation, you know,
Speaker 1: to really get a good price negotiated, is there.
Speaker 2: M yeah, I think so that's that's the key to leverage.
Speaker 1: Get really desperate and then hope people will give you
Speaker 1: a good deal. But no, I could. I could do
Speaker 1: some help, and it's too It's for a good course,
Speaker 1: so please get in touch.
Speaker 2: So, mister Pridda, what have you been up to?
Speaker 1: I can mostly walk without a crutch. This is sort
Speaker 1: of like cripple update every week, isn't it? Just watching
Speaker 1: me heal a little bit more every time? So I
Speaker 1: can walk without a crutch now, although I sort of
Speaker 1: walk and be legged because my my left leg keeps
Speaker 1: forgetting it's meant to be a leg that sort of
Speaker 1: goes like a like a wet spaghetti piece every now
Speaker 1: and again. It's fun.
Speaker 2: You did describe it as a crutchless walk the other day,
Speaker 2: which I which I found. I've heard of things being crutchless,
Speaker 2: but never a walk.
Speaker 1: No. The great thing about this is because any kind
Speaker 1: of movement at all is really sort of expensive in
Speaker 1: calories an effort. So I'm getting quite ripped at the
Speaker 1: moment comparatively, because even just walking to the end of
Speaker 1: the lane is like doing a marathon.
Speaker 2: So I need some of that. I need some of
Speaker 2: that ripping.
Speaker 1: So I'll be fat again by the game. Fair Well, Oh,
Speaker 1: I am in possession of one of the new DGI
Speaker 1: thermal drones. So it's been sent out to me sort
Speaker 1: of some evaluation and testing and I've got to demonstrate
Speaker 1: it to a few people. But the technology is a
Speaker 1: bit scary now. So we've talked about drones before and
Speaker 1: most people listening or will have seen. You know, you
Speaker 1: can get four K footage, really good TV quality footage
Speaker 1: from a drone you can pick up from Albost or Amazon. Well,
Speaker 1: this new one is DGI. So seeing company do basically
Speaker 1: all the drones now they this is their thermal imaging one.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a smaller package. It's not the huge
Speaker 1: one that's like the size of a small bed. This
Speaker 1: is it's about one foot by one foot, just under
Speaker 1: two kilos.
Speaker 2: What do you need do you need to be qualified
Speaker 2: to fly that?
Speaker 1: For some places? So it's all you need to register
Speaker 1: in the UK with a CIA, you get your operator ID.
Speaker 1: But how close to people? How close to roads and
Speaker 1: built up areas and things like that. You can fly
Speaker 1: them legally, is dependent on the way to the drone,
Speaker 1: and so if you have a qualification then you can
Speaker 1: fly closer to people. But there is a sort of
Speaker 1: a category out in the middle of nowhere where you
Speaker 1: can fly. And I know a lot of people have
Speaker 1: had these on demo for doing deer accounts and deer
Speaker 1: surveys and sort of seeing. You know, could they be
Speaker 1: useful for assessing how many deer are in a woodblock
Speaker 1: or something like that. So a lot of the keepers
Speaker 1: and the deer stalk is listening will have seen these things.
Speaker 1: But I just want to talk about it more broadly
Speaker 1: because the technology is a little bit unnerving. So you
Speaker 1: put the drone up and you set it to the
Speaker 1: right mode. It will look at the scene and then
Speaker 1: tell you, Okay, there are this many vehicles in shot,
Speaker 1: there are this many people in shot. It'll put a
Speaker 1: little green arrow on every vehicle and every person and
Speaker 1: track them around. It'll also tell the difference between a
Speaker 1: vehicle and a boat or something like that. So it'll
Speaker 1: tell you stuff out on open water because says it's
Speaker 1: a track and follow around any one of those things.
Speaker 1: It will tell you the temperature of things from several
Speaker 1: hundred meters away, so I can tell read the temperature
Speaker 1: of your skin within a few degrees from a few
Speaker 1: hundred meters away. You can also set it to do
Speaker 1: mapping and do wig points and just set it to
Speaker 1: fly on a gridntil the battery dies and then return
Speaker 1: back to base, and it'll do that in most weathers.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty scary compare you know, if you go
Speaker 1: and watch Terminator two or something like that, and you've
Speaker 1: got the opening scene, or you've got the robots going
Speaker 1: across the battleground and fighting against the humans. Were at
Speaker 1: the starting point of that. Now with the technology in
Speaker 1: the drones, Yeah, so you know, I would say, just
Speaker 1: aim for the power.
Speaker 2: Pack invading anywhere.
Speaker 1: So for me, well, if they know that the robots
Speaker 1: are coming to you, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I'm ever since like nineteen ninety nine, I've been listening
Speaker 2: to Daft punk and now my best friends are French
Speaker 2: robot ai so I've been nice to them, so they're
Speaker 2: not coming for me. I'm one of them until obviously
Speaker 2: the Final Resistance, well they are doomed.
Speaker 1: They are coming for farmers and people working on the lands.
Speaker 1: So there are forestry drones of starting to make the
Speaker 1: news now, which have basically a chainsaw dangling off underneath
Speaker 1: and they'll cut and process a tree.
Speaker 2: Did you see the news where they gave an ai
Speaker 2: the ability to grow a tomato and it successfully successfully
Speaker 2: did the whole robotic side of it and grew food.
Speaker 1: How did it get access to a tomato? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, they gave it access to all these things and
Speaker 2: it successfully grew food.
Speaker 1: See, that's less impressive. If you just told an AI
Speaker 1: to grow a tomato and it recruited humans to go
Speaker 1: and buy things for it to plant it out, that
Speaker 1: would be more impressive.
Speaker 2: They also gave they gave an ai like a fully
Speaker 2: autonomous situation where it could it could do whatever it
Speaker 2: wanted and in the back end it he purposed. It's
Speaker 2: gpu to mind crypto without telling anybody the.
Speaker 1: AI and crypto, which is our audience favorite things. They
Speaker 1: love it when they're listening to the country podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, it just proves, it just proves that you know,
Speaker 2: AI does exactly what.
Speaker 1: It wants, So it's okay, it's not to be trusted.
Speaker 1: The AI bubble is sort of I reckon bursting by Christmas.
Speaker 2: At this point, I don't wonder what's going to what's
Speaker 2: what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, the bit of relevance to the rural stuff is
Speaker 1: now we're now there's a sudden huge demand for data centers,
Speaker 1: and the Americans are ahead of us in this. But
Speaker 1: all this information processing needs a data center, which is
Speaker 1: effectively a very large computer in a shed. You need
Speaker 1: space for that, U water requirements you have, you have
Speaker 1: power requirements for these huge things. And the cropping up
Speaker 1: all over the UK. There's a huge amount about to
Speaker 1: go into the Central Belt in Scotland. It does seem
Speaker 1: like a lot of corporations now they've realized they need
Speaker 1: data centers, have sort of quietly pushed all this climate
Speaker 1: change thing to one side, and we're going for the
Speaker 1: building the data center thing instead. The priority seems to
Speaker 1: have changed now.
Speaker 2: I think that we're a lot of farms will actually
Speaker 2: turn into data centers in yeah, not that long.
Speaker 1: Although what are we going to eat?
Speaker 2: Only only Germany are noodles and we're just important, of course,
Speaker 2: all ram and noodles. We'll get them direct from China. China,
Speaker 2: all right, Koreans, all right, we just get.
Speaker 1: That will never be at war with China.
Speaker 2: Nah, no, be fine, just trust just trust them completely
Speaker 2: and have zero food security. That seems to be the
Speaker 2: government thing. Wis wish we'd done politics.
Speaker 1: Politics, crypto and AI. Yeah, they're all the three things
Speaker 1: that every week we get feedback people saying how much
Speaker 1: you love us talking about crypto and AI and politics.
Speaker 2: I don't think we haven't done cryptona while.
Speaker 1: No, that's why the reviews have been getting better.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, we're back, We're back. We're so back baby.
Speaker 1: Talking of back, have you seen any of the new
Speaker 1: season of Clarkson's Farm?
Speaker 2: Oh? I didn't even know it was on.
Speaker 1: Brilliant.
Speaker 2: This is a great segment, you're not the best thing
Speaker 2: about Clarkson's Farm is something that I can actually watch
Speaker 2: when you have children present. There's not many things that
Speaker 2: grown ups can watch that don't have mature content in it,
Speaker 2: And I say Clarkson's Farm is the closest thing that's
Speaker 2: actually enjoyable for an adult that is family viewing.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's yeah, that's an interesting observation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I will watch it. Do you
Speaker 2: want to spoil some for me?
Speaker 1: No, Well we'll do it. We'll do it when everyone's
Speaker 1: back together because next week Richard Nigas is coming to
Speaker 1: Whales and if he survives the well, I think he's
Speaker 1: actually staying in the local Weatherspoons. He's two years. I've
Speaker 1: given him, I've given him links to the hotel and
Speaker 1: I haven't told him where it is. So I think
Speaker 1: he's staying in the hotel in Riffin, which is the Weatherspoons.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if he survives that. Have you been
Speaker 1: to a Weatherspoons with him yet?
Speaker 2: I took him to McDonald's, yes, yes, for cutlery, yeah,
Speaker 2: took him to a drive for really it was it
Speaker 2: was a bizarre experience. I think he's although he's quite
Speaker 2: distant from from the everyday man and quite sheltered in Suffolk,
Speaker 2: I think he'd handle himself just fine in a Wetherspoons.
Speaker 1: See we've talked about this before, but weatherspoons there's there's
Speaker 1: always two types. There's flat roof pub or the best
Speaker 1: pub in town. So it goes, it goes either way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I couldn't believe when I went to the
Speaker 2: House of Lords that it was the same as a Wetherspoons,
Speaker 2: but without sticky carpet. You know, it had the same
Speaker 2: exactly the same deck or as most Weatherspoons ever been
Speaker 2: in like pretend grand old paintings. Well actually they are
Speaker 2: actually grand old paintings. But the our local Wetherspoons recently
Speaker 2: got shut down for a zero star food hygiene rating.
Speaker 1: Zero is good.
Speaker 2: So often zeros come from so environmental health are not
Speaker 2: kind to people, and sometimes they give you a zero
Speaker 2: for like having an oven that's not it was too
Speaker 2: close to a fridge, so you would think, you know, zero.
Speaker 2: But this pub got a zero for being absolutely filthy
Speaker 2: and probably riddle.
Speaker 1: Rats see Weatherspoons. It holds this fascination for me. It
Speaker 1: was the first pub in a town where I lived,
Speaker 1: moved to a town, and it's the first pub we
Speaker 1: used to regularly go to and meet people ins two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, and it was the Burger and a
Speaker 1: Pine Nights it Fridays or Thursdays that yeah. And it's
Speaker 1: just part of this gradual and citification of everything where
Speaker 1: we had things quite good in the early two thousands
Speaker 1: and we didn't really know it just graduated. Everything's gradually
Speaker 1: got worse.
Speaker 2: Ever since, I haven't been to a Weatherspoons to meet
Speaker 2: up with people for probably fifteen years plus and it
Speaker 2: was a place like the Burger and a pint was
Speaker 2: great Curry Night or something that was like a Wednesday
Speaker 2: or something that was half decent as well. I do
Speaker 2: wonder now it just seems if you're going to Weatherspoons now,
Speaker 2: it just seems to be sort of desperate men that
Speaker 2: have been in there since nine o'clock getting a pint.
Speaker 2: Just care that the beer is like fifty p cheaper
Speaker 2: than anywhere else. And you know, bloody Sharon, she took
Speaker 2: the kids. That's so. Yeah, Boxing Days not Christmas, is it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of market town weatherspoons. They have sort
Speaker 1: of a ratio of how many they're allowed in an area.
Speaker 1: I think, so they don't outcompete each other. But you
Speaker 1: get a lot of market town weatherspoons, but you don't
Speaker 1: get any properly rural weatherspoons that I don't know of
Speaker 1: any that have taken over a village pub or something.
Speaker 1: They're always in a town.
Speaker 2: I think they probably just want the footfall, they want
Speaker 2: the it's a numbers game must.
Speaker 1: Be for them. You don't drive to a Weatherspoons, do you?
Speaker 2: Nah? Nah? Get the bus mhm.
Speaker 1: Rural pubs though, still I don't know what they like
Speaker 1: around Bear, but here it's you're a restaurant or you die.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think there are any that are actual pubs.
Speaker 2: Can you make markup just solely on booze? Probably not well,
Speaker 2: I mean some kind if you were seasonal. But it's
Speaker 2: really hard, yeah, I am. I was talking with Artiam
Speaker 2: who owns the Warwick in Pimlico, and just the cost,
Speaker 2: the rising costs of the staff cost, the nastal insurance,
Speaker 2: the rising business rates, it makes it. It makes it
Speaker 2: really difficult. Thankfully he's but the trend because he's just
Speaker 2: busier than ever because the food's really good. But generally
Speaker 2: it's it's really hard for businesses out there.
Speaker 1: Well, there's this campaign at the moment, isn't there for
Speaker 1: producing the VAT for hospitality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: Taking it from twenty percent to ten percent because for
Speaker 1: non UK listeners, yes, that really is twenty percent here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most people don't pay anywhay close to that to
Speaker 2: day and it's certain things you you've got to realize
Speaker 2: that a pub as well, there's a lot of social
Speaker 2: good there's I mean, sure's there's some bad stuff around
Speaker 2: a pub, but like generally a place where people can
Speaker 2: meet community in a day and age where we're we're
Speaker 2: talking about AI and stuff like that. In the day
Speaker 2: and age we're letting American tech companies just absolutely dominate
Speaker 2: our entire lives. We should probably be supporting punishing them,
Speaker 2: and supporting local businesses and places that that stitch back
Speaker 2: the fabric of community rather than you know, all sit
Speaker 2: there looking at our phones all day and just doing
Speaker 2: nonsensical stuff that we all seem to have been suckered into.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm pro supporting pubs.
Speaker 1: We're probably the last generation that will have a fondness
Speaker 1: for pubs on that because it seems like the generation,
Speaker 1: the next generation gen Z, they didn't have the same
Speaker 1: experience growing up and COVID really finished that up and
Speaker 1: the lack of hospitality in that period. So every survey
Speaker 1: and every sort of analysis of what gen Z do
Speaker 1: is not does not veer towards drinking. But then you
Speaker 1: go around London on a Thursday night and watch all
Speaker 1: those apprentices and interns and everything just falling out of
Speaker 1: the pubs and just viewing onto the pavement in the city.
Speaker 1: They obviously are in some places, but not everywhere.
Speaker 2: I think it's not as bad as it's made out.
Speaker 2: But then there are quite a lot of people that
Speaker 2: have taken their their phones are being anti social as
Speaker 2: as a lifestyle choice. There is a there's an awful
Speaker 2: lot of those, but it's not everyone. And like seeing
Speaker 2: the young farmers and things like that, that's brilliant to
Speaker 2: see those guys actually out there doing it, living the dream,
Speaker 2: enjoying themselves and just I think it's a really important
Speaker 2: I kind of got a theory that we've We've spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time trying to.
Speaker 1: Thank God, what have you done?
Speaker 2: I know exactly what's what's about to happen. The missus
Speaker 2: is trying to use my card to approve the Tesco shop.
Speaker 2: Turn to the app. I have approved the delivery.
Speaker 1: This is the This is the segment of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Return to the app. I have approved the payment. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's like Callum's the AI for his wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I'm financed. Unfortunately you're a chatbot. I'll
Speaker 2: find myself in the position of I had to approve
Speaker 2: the payment on my app because my Tesco shop is
Speaker 2: so bloody expensive. Where were we? Yeah, I've got a
Speaker 2: theory right that.
Speaker 1: Other supermarkets are available but not in your area.
Speaker 2: We have spent an awful long time sheltering everybody from
Speaker 2: doing bad things and unhealthy things. But I think that
Speaker 2: the only way that you work stuff out is by
Speaker 2: making the mistakes in the first place. Like I learned
Speaker 2: that I can't drink fifteen pints by drinking fifteen pints,
Speaker 2: and then that made me really sick, and I know
Speaker 2: I can't do that, so I'll stop at a much
Speaker 2: lower These days, it's like two pints and I need
Speaker 2: to go to bed or I need my mum. But
Speaker 2: I think that the more we shelter from the things
Speaker 2: that are bad for us, so the more information that
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, we should be doing this, and we
Speaker 2: should be doing that, and the pressure to conform to
Speaker 2: be progressive and perfect and healthy, that the less of
Speaker 2: the bad stuff, you know. So I think what we
Speaker 2: really need to do is make Britain shit again, you know,
Speaker 2: make people go out and drink more than they should,
Speaker 2: make people eat too much greasy food, and just do
Speaker 2: have awkward interactions with people until eventually you don't you're
Speaker 2: not as awkward as you were, or you just become
Speaker 2: what do they call Richard an extrovert, or you just
Speaker 2: eventually your awkward interactions, you're getting paid for them, and
Speaker 2: you're talking in front of the Women's Institute.
Speaker 1: Fine tuning these awkward interactions down to a monetizable level.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I think we need to make Britain shit again.
Speaker 1: This is the actual an argument for in certification, which
Speaker 1: is push people out to the limits of what they
Speaker 1: can survive so that they can pull back a bit
Speaker 1: and find their sort of sweet spots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think we've done like we've We've
Speaker 2: ruined we've ruined pubs, We've ruined engagement with young people.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to I was in a place the
Speaker 2: other day and overheard the girl saying that she was
Speaker 2: scared of drunk people.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is a that is a thing of a
Speaker 1: fear of interactions with other people, anxiety about interactions.
Speaker 2: And she said that because they were because they were unpredictable,
Speaker 2: which I get it, But they're not really unpredictable, are they.
Speaker 2: They Like, you know, they talk loudly, they fall over things,
Speaker 2: not having a newborn, it's a puke, just just it's
Speaker 2: not They're not unpredictable, and it's just sad that we've
Speaker 2: lost We've lost a lot of things in the past
Speaker 2: twenty years, and we're doing a lot of things different.
Speaker 2: So I think the in shitification, yeah, everything shit is
Speaker 2: everything shit. I don't think it is. But I think
Speaker 2: we can do more to make to make mistakes by
Speaker 2: yourself and then learn from them.
Speaker 1: And we all feel You've just made everyone feel old
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, talking about their youth and how far
Speaker 1: behind it was. So I'm going to finish that off
Speaker 1: for the main show with this little just think thing
Speaker 1: to put people at ease and make them feel warm
Speaker 1: and fuzzy about the direction their life has gone. You know,
Speaker 1: the film Back to the Future, I do the first
Speaker 1: film was nineteen eighty five and he travels back thirty
Speaker 1: years and time to nineteen fifty five. So if you
Speaker 1: were making that today, Martin McFly would travel back to
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: Spice Girl, Yeah, oh wow. I'm pretty sure Toy Story
Speaker 2: was the film of the year nineteen ninety six. Wow.
Speaker 1: So everyone feels old now, Right onto the after show,
Speaker 1: which is for patrons only, but everyone else, We'll see
Speaker 1: you again next week, which will feature a live recording
Speaker 1: in the field with Richard Nigas and I but probably
Speaker 1: not Callum because he'll still be paying for his test
Speaker 1: coat shop.
Speaker 2: I gotta get it, Gotta me keep somehow Bye. Why