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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you sponsor an African child or a

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<v Speaker 1>donkey or something, and they send you sort of photos

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<v Speaker 1>of updates of how that child's going.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, but I'm familiar with the concept.

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<v Speaker 1>So with you know, with my tax and how it's

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<v Speaker 1>being spent at the moment, I'd like for at least

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<v Speaker 1>people to send me an update of, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>my tax has been spent. Your tax has purchased five

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<v Speaker 1>of the lanyards required for this government office, or you

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<v Speaker 1>have purchased one half of one screw for an aircraft carrier.

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<v Speaker 2>Just come to Harlowe on a Wednesday at like one

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<v Speaker 2>thirty and I'll show you exactly where it's going. Vapes

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<v Speaker 2>mostly bapes. Super Strength blogger seems to be quite popular.

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<v Speaker 2>I think super Strength ciders down.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Kestrel still going?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I haven't seen what was the what's that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Frosty Jacks?

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<v Speaker 1>Frosty Jacks?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was a classic or a classic.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Book Fast ever make it to Essex?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, it doesn't really, it doesn't travel. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the trouble. You know. It's like some of the

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<v Speaker 2>beers you get that you know, they only taste good

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the country of origin. They don't travel well.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's like Buckfast. It's it's great there, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't travel well. And the connoisseurs that that drink it,

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<v Speaker 2>they know that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone is screaming at their radio now. But book Fast

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<v Speaker 1>actually comes all the way from Devon to Glasgow?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It's made in It's made by monks in Devon?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it really? What are they doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing something strange to Glasgow?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, I don't think I've ever had Buckfast.

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<v Speaker 1>You're missing out? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Are I got given? What's it called magnum?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you had those?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm familiar with the ice cream.

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<v Speaker 2>It's popular with the African community. It's like a tonic wine.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it your other family that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, Magnum, Magnum tonic. So it is. It is

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<v Speaker 2>technically a product of Jamaica. I felt like I'd almost

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<v Speaker 2>been initiated. My brethren turned to me and cracked open

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<v Speaker 2>a Magnum and passed it to me, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>say less, fam, I was one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't really get that experience up here. We get

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<v Speaker 1>Rex and lager Rex and lagers made a comeback, which

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<v Speaker 1>is it's had a mixed reception, let's say, because some

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<v Speaker 1>people are glad to see it go.

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<v Speaker 2>You travel about a bit. Is there is there any

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<v Speaker 2>any local brew that you have that you think, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love if if this was back home.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I mean I can't remember that the brand

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<v Speaker 1>of any sort of small stubby lager or anything I've

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<v Speaker 1>had overseas. Because you know, genuinely sort of quite glad

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<v Speaker 1>to see that it arrived in a sealed bottle, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it's a very good chance it hasn't been tampered

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<v Speaker 1>with or just refilled at the back of the restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>before it came to you. Yeah, that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the mild relief. And is it is it got

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<v Speaker 1>sweat of ice coming out side of it. Yeah, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>So I tried to get one once. That was what

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<v Speaker 2>was it called? It had a witch on it quin

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<v Speaker 2>quintine quinnen quinteine beer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, queen beer good for malaria?

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<v Speaker 2>Then ah, yes, it's quintin q u I n t

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<v Speaker 2>i n e quentin abusing it's a Belgian beer. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got a witch with a broom on it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>really good in Belgium, and if you get it in

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle and take it home, it doesn't taste anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>near as good. And I don't know why, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't. But it's so nice when you're out there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so nice. On draft it's yeah, it's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a few local ones UK ones that are

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<v Speaker 2>that are bangers.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a whole art to picking a beer based

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<v Speaker 1>on what the picture on the label is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it says about six percent and it's got a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I quite like, I'll go for that. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't do pictures you like now it all looks

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<v Speaker 2>like tattoo artists. Years ago, it used to be like

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<v Speaker 2>goblins and mushrooms and shit that you think, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure I should even touch that. Actually, the artwork

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<v Speaker 2>of the of Bb so Bb, the writer I used

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<v Speaker 2>to write about field sports and whatnot. His artwork is

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of weird psychedelic kind of trolls and little

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<v Speaker 2>toadstools and all this kind of like folklory stuff. You think,

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<v Speaker 2>where am I going to end up? What ditch will

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<v Speaker 2>I end up? If I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I make you feel a bit peculiar, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>you're not quite sure what's going to happen next. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of comforting but horrifying at the same time. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a very eighties, eighties nineties thing, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a sort of there's a very interesting aesthetic for

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<v Speaker 1>an nineteen eighties British Christmas, which is either decorations from

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies that are still hanging around for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time or some weird, sort of muted color stuff of

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk about the smell? They all had that smell.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're sitting at home, you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to have synesthesia to just remember what the Christmas box

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<v Speaker 2>of the nineties smelt like, Like just that tinsel smell.

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<v Speaker 2>You know exactly what I'm talking about too. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a tinsel plastic smell that you just go, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, as an eagle eared listeners may have noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>we are down to just two of us for this

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<v Speaker 1>week because Richard Nigas is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's gone, He's gone out of whit round the

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<v Speaker 2>whole way round the villages of Suffolk because SpaceX are

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<v Speaker 2>ipo ing tomorrow. So he's got, He's got the whole

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<v Speaker 2>church collection plate, everything, it's all gone in is pro Elon.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to get the first rocket out of Suffolk

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<v Speaker 2>when this whole thing blows over.

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<v Speaker 1>He's actually in West Sussex, which is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>sort of counties I don't think really exists, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least it doesn't exist as a workplace, because I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been to West Sussex and seen anyone at work. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone does. I was in That's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole county really needed for the first third of the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what about the French. They've had it too good

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<v Speaker 2>for too long.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the French is too easy. Yeah, they just watch

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<v Speaker 1>what they do and make comments on.

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<v Speaker 2>It and take long breaks when they're meant to be

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<v Speaker 2>in air traffic control.

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<v Speaker 1>A quarter of our country's economy into this one line

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<v Speaker 1>of forts and defenses. Oh ship, the Germans have gone

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<v Speaker 1>round it. What we do? What do we do now?

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<v Speaker 2>Fair?

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<v Speaker 1>Fair niche reference anyway back in the room. What have

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<v Speaker 1>you been up to, mister callum?

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<v Speaker 2>But I've done a lot of fishing, Like my almost

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<v Speaker 2>my yearly quota of fishing has been filled up in

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<v Speaker 2>the past seven days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right a broad license really, shouldn't you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got I got two you have to get

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<v Speaker 2>so you have to get two now. Yeah, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to fish three rods, you have to get

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<v Speaker 2>two rod licenses. Outrageous. Well it's not outrageous. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it should be like if you want one rod, you

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<v Speaker 2>should have one rod license, and then you should have

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<v Speaker 2>three if you want three rod licenses. Not giving the

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<v Speaker 2>AA any ideas, but like you know, the per rods

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<v Speaker 2>should be the thing, and then you've got to get

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<v Speaker 2>another one for your salmon and game. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>have been fly fishing, so May June time is just

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<v Speaker 2>a solid time to start fly fishing. Really you've got

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<v Speaker 2>lots of flies hatching and also carp like to go

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<v Speaker 2>on the surface, so you can catch carp on the fly.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went to the River Test and I fished

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<v Speaker 2>on the River Test, which is probably one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best rivers maybe in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Which bit was it the upper Test or there's a

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<v Speaker 1>middle and the lower isn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lower Test? And I've never fished the lower before?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that below fording Bridge? Is that the one? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that town that's on like one long Street, which is

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<v Speaker 1>all cafes and fishing shops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is below that one. Yeah, it's definitely below

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<v Speaker 2>that one. Yeah, what's that called stockbridge? So below there

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<v Speaker 2>the lower test. And the interesting thing about the lower

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<v Speaker 2>test is a lot of the fish migrate out to sea,

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<v Speaker 2>spend a long time out in sea, and then come

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<v Speaker 2>back into the river. So I call they don't stock

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<v Speaker 2>rainbow trout. But I caught this rainbow trout that was

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<v Speaker 2>insanely long and it was only sort of like five

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<v Speaker 2>and a half pounds, but it was an eel surely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Basically if you'd have caught it in a

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<v Speaker 2>commercial fishery, it could have gone more like fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>pounds because it would have just been absolutely enormous. The

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<v Speaker 2>length of it was insane and in fast flying water

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<v Speaker 2>on a on a five or a six weight, can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember what mine is. Yeah, it went, we went pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>And even the trout catching sort of had a three

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half pound brownie and I caught that

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<v Speaker 2>on a mayfly. And they called them slob trout because

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<v Speaker 2>they head down to the head down to the sea

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<v Speaker 2>or brackish water, eat lots of shrimp and they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just look they've become like a strange shape. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not like, they're not like little wild brownies, They're just

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<v Speaker 2>a trained shape. One and yeah, but I managed to

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<v Speaker 2>catch them on the mayfly fly, one on a nymph

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<v Speaker 2>and one on like this big fly thing that that

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<v Speaker 2>I just found in the box.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you changing up your flies as the day

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<v Speaker 1>gets on? Sort of match what would be patching in

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<v Speaker 1>the evening? Because is it caddice in the evening?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not I'm not the pro at this, but

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<v Speaker 2>basically something.

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<v Speaker 1>Made for magazines and things.

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<v Speaker 2>Not about fly fishing. It's what about cart fishing, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like you know, peasants stuff and av Yeah, teller

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<v Speaker 2>bivvy put the TV. So yeah, basically that's it. Mood

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<v Speaker 2>or one of those toasty makers. How was it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus have any microrave motle straight in the So they

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<v Speaker 2>start as like little wormy little bug things and then

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<v Speaker 2>they emerge and they come up in the water and

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<v Speaker 2>then they break out. So the mayfly is obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>big one and they they emerge, so you fish nim

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<v Speaker 2>for those when they're not actually hatched. There's certain changes

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<v Speaker 2>in the water conditions fresh water water temperature, but the

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<v Speaker 2>mayfly spends three hundred and sixty four days in its

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<v Speaker 2>sort of little wormy stage, then is a caddice, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it eventually turns into a mayfly and it lasts

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<v Speaker 2>one day and then it goes. So it's fishing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think just all of a sudden, right towards the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, the sun just dropped and come out,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it just turned on, and there was all

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<v Speaker 2>pound brown trout, which is pretty cool. It's just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fly fishing such an interesting art form. I'm far from

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't look unnatural. Try and make it look as

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<v Speaker 2>at fly fishing, I get the concept. I get the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a lot of experience in fishing, but actually

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<v Speaker 2>doing this stuff, I don't have any experience. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>and being annoying. So whatever. People are like, oh, what

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<v Speaker 2>did you catch that on? And I'm like, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>all these names for flies, bully, bugger, dusty miller, you

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<v Speaker 2>name it. There's just something and I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know about four different flies, and then

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<v Speaker 2>my knowledge is gone. Someone will write as something, oh

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't you try a why don't you try a

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<v Speaker 2>blue caddice nymph? You're like, no idea, drop me out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're talking about. I'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>google that. Thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The person who wasn't there looking with a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>they had no sort of effect on the outcome of

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<v Speaker 1>it whatsoever, definitely has the right answer for you, though,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what you should have done instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, always, always, Oh they take this one here. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's that I honestly, don't think it's that

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<v Speaker 2>big a deal. Like I get you want to match

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<v Speaker 2>what they're eating. Yeah, but really if it's white while

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<v Speaker 2>a black barn and a big barn a small one,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>And the biggest thing is that the fish have to

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<v Speaker 1>be there in the first place. That is true because

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<v Speaker 1>either on the boat or off rocks and off marks

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<v Speaker 1>on the land and state of tide makes a much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger difference than the than the gear you're using, or

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<v Speaker 1>just are they feeding or are they just mooching around

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<v Speaker 1>being lazy, because that two different, two different events would

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<v Speaker 2>So I did actually go bass fishing as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>everyone hates hates the word sea bass, but you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to cross qualify it as sea bass, the collect bass

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<v Speaker 2>in the sea from now and.

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<v Speaker 1>Call it Hampshire trout. Did you.

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<v Speaker 2>I might have done. No, you call them, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>just call them trout, I suppose. But if you say bass,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone thinks you're Everyone just thinks of like an American

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<v Speaker 2>large bouth bass.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't they other one? The billy big mouth bond, the

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<v Speaker 1>toylet on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to love that. I did that the other

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<v Speaker 2>day as well, and then someone told me that you

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<v Speaker 2>should fish for them like you fish for perch. So

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<v Speaker 2>instead of doing what I usually do, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>skip lures really high in the water, I fished a

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<v Speaker 2>thing called a z man chatter bait, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>what the Americans use.

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<v Speaker 1>This, chatter bait. Yeah, don't google that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're thinking of something different.

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<v Speaker 1>Chatter space bait. Uh No, I think it's all one

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<v Speaker 1>word brilliant. The transcript for this is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so chatter bait.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few hundred people trying to google that and

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<v Speaker 1>finding out we need a VPN in order to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that back in the day it was great

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<v Speaker 2>websit before they to be fair, my webcow quality on

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<v Speaker 2>here doesn't look that far off. This could be. This

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<v Speaker 1>I know somebody who worked through their History Masters whilst

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing webcam stuff as a male, and they

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<v Speaker 2>Well, can we do that while podcasting?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we do every week anyway, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>you anyway, where are we fishing?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I fish for the fish for those like

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<v Speaker 2>a fish for perch. So I laid it sync to

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom and I was just dragging it along the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden you just saw fish

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<v Speaker 2>picking it up and moving it. But they clearly weren't

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<v Speaker 2>big enough. They must have been the schoolies just taking

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<v Speaker 2>the just taking the lure and playing with it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I just left it, let them do what they

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<v Speaker 2>want to do with it. And I kept jigging it

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<v Speaker 2>and putting a bit of motion into it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>could see fish were going for it, but they obviously

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<v Speaker 2>weren't big enough. And then all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 2>get a big pull on the rod and that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had my first keeper. So yeah, I've done a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fish cooking in the past in the past week.

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<v Speaker 1>They're quite meaty when you get them in as well,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't they beast? Particularly you needed quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>space to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, they're hard work getting it in and

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<v Speaker 2>then having to to dispatch while in the kayak.

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<v Speaker 1>Having measured it carefully of course, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the legal limit? Forty five centimeters?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's forty two up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, forty two, which coincidentally happens to be elbow

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<v Speaker 2>to finger. So if I got a I'm forty, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a forty five centimeter elbow to finger. So you

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<v Speaker 2>do not really need to measure such things. Have If

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever curious, just measure your forearm to your top

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<v Speaker 2>of your finger and you probably find that you might

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<v Speaker 2>have a good guide of whether you can get a

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<v Speaker 2>keeper or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends how tall you are, because your arm

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<v Speaker 1>length is proportional to your height.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. But also people can have little, tiny stump arms,

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<v Speaker 2>can't they as well? Little? I mean just like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't that wasn't like a particular drug that was available

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<v Speaker 2>in the years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're ever at a party with other able

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<v Speaker 1>bodied people and you're you're short, something to do. Get

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to work out their ape index. So you lie

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor, arms sort of stretched out like like

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus on the cross, and measure finger tips to fingertip

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<v Speaker 1>and then measure that person's height and it should be

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<v Speaker 1>within a few centimeters. But some people have a longer

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<v Speaker 1>arm spam than their height, and some people are have

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<v Speaker 1>a shorter arm span than their height. So it's whether

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a positive or negative APE index. So some

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<v Speaker 1>people have sort of orangutan arms and they've got long

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<v Speaker 1>arms and a short, short body.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've probably got quite long arms compared to

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<v Speaker 2>my body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are like some of the giant squid, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know one go who's like mister Tickle. His arms

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<v Speaker 2>are so unsolifedly long. Every time I I just think,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to you?

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<v Speaker 1>We just trying to hold onto two trains at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's a funny guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a request for help. Yeah, just kick me

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<v Speaker 1>off this show. No, I've got a request for help

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<v Speaker 1>amongst our listeners. I am in need of a farm

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<v Speaker 1>or a farm type place somewhere in South Shropshire, Herefordshire, Warwickshire,

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<v Speaker 1>top end of Gloucestershire bottom corner was the top end

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<v Speaker 1>of Oxfordshire, somewhere in that sort of midlands zone. And

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<v Speaker 1>I need someone with a farm or something similar where

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<v Speaker 1>I can take some chefs, not sort of posh, high

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<v Speaker 1>end go out with calum to do stuff type chefs.

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<v Speaker 1>These are chefs who are is their first hospitality venue

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<v Speaker 1>that they're working in. This work we're doing with the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to say the name because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fairly big chain up here, but they're all sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a independently owned.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not Harvester Fat.

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<v Speaker 1>We already train them up here doing some wild food

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<v Speaker 1>things and outdoor cooking and that kind of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have a request to do something for their cluster

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<v Speaker 1>of restaurants that's kind of in the West Midlands or

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<v Speaker 1>the southern part of the Midlands, so I think sort

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<v Speaker 1>of Milton Keynes is the furthest south they go. But

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<v Speaker 1>I need somewhere where I've got a farm bit where

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<v Speaker 1>they can go and sort of do a farm tour

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<v Speaker 1>and a walk see where some of that food is

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<v Speaker 1>coming from, and then we have a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>cooking session at the end. So get in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>me via the podcast or my social media. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes in the links below. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have somewhere that can help or you know someone that

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<v Speaker 1>can help. There's some money in it as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a fee, but I just need it for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days in the summer, really between now and the

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<v Speaker 1>end of October. Please get in touch with me because

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<v Speaker 1>I might have promised something I haven't actually got a

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<v Speaker 1>venue for, so help. Yeah, there's nothing like desperation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to really get a good price negotiated, is there.

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<v Speaker 2>M yeah, I think so that's that's the key to leverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Get really desperate and then hope people will give you

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<v Speaker 1>a good deal. But no, I could. I could do

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<v Speaker 1>some help, and it's too It's for a good course,

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<v Speaker 1>so please get in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>So, mister Pridda, what have you been up to?

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<v Speaker 1>I can mostly walk without a crutch. This is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like cripple update every week, isn't it? Just watching

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<v Speaker 1>me heal a little bit more every time? So I

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<v Speaker 1>can walk without a crutch now, although I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>walk and be legged because my my left leg keeps

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<v Speaker 1>forgetting it's meant to be a leg that sort of

425
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<v Speaker 1>goes like a like a wet spaghetti piece every now

426
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<v Speaker 1>and again. It's fun.

427
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<v Speaker 2>You did describe it as a crutchless walk the other day,

428
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<v Speaker 2>which I which I found. I've heard of things being crutchless,

429
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 2>but never a walk.

430
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<v Speaker 1>No. The great thing about this is because any kind

431
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<v Speaker 1>of movement at all is really sort of expensive in

432
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 1>calories an effort. So I'm getting quite ripped at the

433
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<v Speaker 1>moment comparatively, because even just walking to the end of

434
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<v Speaker 1>the lane is like doing a marathon.

435
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.519
<v Speaker 2>So I need some of that. I need some of

436
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that ripping.

437
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'll be fat again by the game. Fair Well, Oh,

438
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I am in possession of one of the new DGI

439
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>thermal drones. So it's been sent out to me sort

440
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>of some evaluation and testing and I've got to demonstrate

441
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>it to a few people. But the technology is a

442
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 1>bit scary now. So we've talked about drones before and

443
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>most people listening or will have seen. You know, you

444
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.400
<v Speaker 1>can get four K footage, really good TV quality footage

445
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>from a drone you can pick up from Albost or Amazon. Well,

446
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 1>this new one is DGI. So seeing company do basically

447
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:08.519
<v Speaker 1>all the drones now they this is their thermal imaging one.

448
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:13.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's a smaller package. It's not the huge

449
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>one that's like the size of a small bed. This

450
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>is it's about one foot by one foot, just under

451
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<v Speaker 1>two kilos.

452
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<v Speaker 2>What do you need do you need to be qualified

453
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<v Speaker 2>to fly that?

454
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 1>For some places? So it's all you need to register

455
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>in the UK with a CIA, you get your operator ID.

456
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>But how close to people? How close to roads and

457
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>built up areas and things like that. You can fly

458
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 1>them legally, is dependent on the way to the drone,

459
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and so if you have a qualification then you can

460
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 1>fly closer to people. But there is a sort of

461
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<v Speaker 1>a category out in the middle of nowhere where you

462
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<v Speaker 1>can fly. And I know a lot of people have

463
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<v Speaker 1>had these on demo for doing deer accounts and deer

464
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<v Speaker 1>surveys and sort of seeing. You know, could they be

465
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<v Speaker 1>useful for assessing how many deer are in a woodblock

466
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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. So a lot of the keepers

467
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and the deer stalk is listening will have seen these things.

468
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>But I just want to talk about it more broadly

469
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 1>because the technology is a little bit unnerving. So you

470
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<v Speaker 1>put the drone up and you set it to the

471
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<v Speaker 1>right mode. It will look at the scene and then

472
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<v Speaker 1>tell you, Okay, there are this many vehicles in shot,

473
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>there are this many people in shot. It'll put a

474
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<v Speaker 1>little green arrow on every vehicle and every person and

475
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>track them around. It'll also tell the difference between a

476
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.559
<v Speaker 1>vehicle and a boat or something like that. So it'll

477
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>tell you stuff out on open water because says it's

478
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a track and follow around any one of those things.

479
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.279
<v Speaker 1>It will tell you the temperature of things from several

480
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>hundred meters away, so I can tell read the temperature

481
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 1>of your skin within a few degrees from a few

482
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred meters away. You can also set it to do

483
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>mapping and do wig points and just set it to

484
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 1>fly on a gridntil the battery dies and then return

485
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>back to base, and it'll do that in most weathers.

486
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's pretty scary compare you know, if you go

487
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 1>and watch Terminator two or something like that, and you've

488
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>got the opening scene, or you've got the robots going

489
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>across the battleground and fighting against the humans. Were at

490
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the starting point of that. Now with the technology in

491
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.279
<v Speaker 1>the drones, Yeah, so you know, I would say, just

492
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:27.519
<v Speaker 1>aim for the power.

493
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Pack invading anywhere.

494
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.319
<v Speaker 1>So for me, well, if they know that the robots

495
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>are coming to you, that's the thing.

496
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm ever since like nineteen ninety nine, I've been listening

497
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 2>to Daft punk and now my best friends are French

498
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 2>robot ai so I've been nice to them, so they're

499
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 2>not coming for me. I'm one of them until obviously

500
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the Final Resistance, well they are doomed.

501
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>They are coming for farmers and people working on the lands.

502
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.319
<v Speaker 1>So there are forestry drones of starting to make the

503
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>news now, which have basically a chainsaw dangling off underneath

504
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 1>and they'll cut and process a tree.

505
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Did you see the news where they gave an ai

506
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>the ability to grow a tomato and it successfully successfully

507
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>did the whole robotic side of it and grew food.

508
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 1>How did it get access to a tomato? Oh?

509
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>No, they gave it access to all these things and

510
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it successfully grew food.

511
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 1>See, that's less impressive. If you just told an AI

512
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to grow a tomato and it recruited humans to go

513
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and buy things for it to plant it out, that

514
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 1>would be more impressive.

515
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>They also gave they gave an ai like a fully

516
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>autonomous situation where it could it could do whatever it

517
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted and in the back end it he purposed. It's

518
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>gpu to mind crypto without telling anybody the.

519
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>AI and crypto, which is our audience favorite things. They

520
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>love it when they're listening to the country podcast.

521
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, it just proves, it just proves that you know,

522
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>AI does exactly what.

523
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 1>It wants, So it's okay, it's not to be trusted.

524
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>The AI bubble is sort of I reckon bursting by Christmas.

525
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 2>At this point, I don't wonder what's going to what's

526
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen.

527
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, the bit of relevance to the rural stuff is

528
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 1>now we're now there's a sudden huge demand for data centers,

529
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and the Americans are ahead of us in this. But

530
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>all this information processing needs a data center, which is

531
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 1>effectively a very large computer in a shed. You need

532
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 1>space for that, U water requirements you have, you have

533
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>power requirements for these huge things. And the cropping up

534
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>all over the UK. There's a huge amount about to

535
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>go into the Central Belt in Scotland. It does seem

536
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of corporations now they've realized they need

537
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 1>data centers, have sort of quietly pushed all this climate

538
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>change thing to one side, and we're going for the

539
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>building the data center thing instead. The priority seems to

540
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 1>have changed now.

541
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that we're a lot of farms will actually

542
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>turn into data centers in yeah, not that long.

543
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Although what are we going to eat?

544
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Only only Germany are noodles and we're just important, of course,

545
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>all ram and noodles. We'll get them direct from China. China,

546
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>all right, Koreans, all right, we just get.

547
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>That will never be at war with China.

548
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Nah, no, be fine, just trust just trust them completely

549
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and have zero food security. That seems to be the

550
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 2>government thing. Wis wish we'd done politics.

551
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Politics, crypto and AI. Yeah, they're all the three things

552
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that every week we get feedback people saying how much

553
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you love us talking about crypto and AI and politics.

554
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we haven't done cryptona while.

555
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>No, that's why the reviews have been getting better.

556
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, we're back, We're back. We're so back baby.

557
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Talking of back, have you seen any of the new

558
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:13.279
<v Speaker 1>season of Clarkson's Farm?

559
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I didn't even know it was on.

560
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Brilliant.

561
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>This is a great segment, you're not the best thing

562
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 2>about Clarkson's Farm is something that I can actually watch

563
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>when you have children present. There's not many things that

564
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 2>grown ups can watch that don't have mature content in it,

565
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 2>And I say Clarkson's Farm is the closest thing that's

566
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.680
<v Speaker 2>actually enjoyable for an adult that is family viewing.

567
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's yeah, that's an interesting observation.

568
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. I will watch it. Do you

569
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 2>want to spoil some for me?

570
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>No, Well we'll do it. We'll do it when everyone's

571
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 1>back together because next week Richard Nigas is coming to

572
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Whales and if he survives the well, I think he's

573
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>actually staying in the local Weatherspoons. He's two years. I've

574
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>given him, I've given him links to the hotel and

575
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 1>I haven't told him where it is. So I think

576
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>he's staying in the hotel in Riffin, which is the Weatherspoons.

577
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if he survives that. Have you been

578
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to a Weatherspoons with him yet?

579
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I took him to McDonald's, yes, yes, for cutlery, yeah,

580
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 2>took him to a drive for really it was it

581
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>was a bizarre experience. I think he's although he's quite

582
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>distant from from the everyday man and quite sheltered in Suffolk,

583
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I think he'd handle himself just fine in a Wetherspoons.

584
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 1>See we've talked about this before, but weatherspoons there's there's

585
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 1>always two types. There's flat roof pub or the best

586
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>pub in town. So it goes, it goes either way.

587
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I couldn't believe when I went to the

588
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>House of Lords that it was the same as a Wetherspoons,

589
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>but without sticky carpet. You know, it had the same

590
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.519
<v Speaker 2>exactly the same deck or as most Weatherspoons ever been

591
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>in like pretend grand old paintings. Well actually they are

592
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>actually grand old paintings. But the our local Wetherspoons recently

593
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>got shut down for a zero star food hygiene rating.

594
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Zero is good.

595
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 2>So often zeros come from so environmental health are not

596
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>kind to people, and sometimes they give you a zero

597
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 2>for like having an oven that's not it was too

598
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>close to a fridge, so you would think, you know, zero.

599
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 2>But this pub got a zero for being absolutely filthy

600
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 2>and probably riddle.

601
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Rats see Weatherspoons. It holds this fascination for me. It

602
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 1>was the first pub in a town where I lived,

603
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>moved to a town, and it's the first pub we

604
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.280
<v Speaker 1>used to regularly go to and meet people ins two

605
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, and it was the Burger and a

606
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Pine Nights it Fridays or Thursdays that yeah. And it's

607
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>just part of this gradual and citification of everything where

608
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>we had things quite good in the early two thousands

609
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't really know it just graduated. Everything's gradually

610
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>got worse.

611
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Ever since, I haven't been to a Weatherspoons to meet

612
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>up with people for probably fifteen years plus and it

613
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 2>was a place like the Burger and a pint was

614
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 2>great Curry Night or something that was like a Wednesday

615
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 2>or something that was half decent as well. I do

616
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 2>wonder now it just seems if you're going to Weatherspoons now,

617
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>it just seems to be sort of desperate men that

618
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.079
<v Speaker 2>have been in there since nine o'clock getting a pint.

619
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Just care that the beer is like fifty p cheaper

620
00:35:55.719 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>than anywhere else. And you know, bloody Sharon, she took

621
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>the kids. That's so. Yeah, Boxing Days not Christmas, is it.

622
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of market town weatherspoons. They have sort

623
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>of a ratio of how many they're allowed in an area.

624
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, so they don't outcompete each other. But you

625
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of market town weatherspoons, but you don't

626
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 1>get any properly rural weatherspoons that I don't know of

627
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 1>any that have taken over a village pub or something.

628
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>They're always in a town.

629
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<v Speaker 2>I think they probably just want the footfall, they want

630
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.199
<v Speaker 2>the it's a numbers game must.

631
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Be for them. You don't drive to a Weatherspoons, do you?

632
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Nah? Nah? Get the bus mhm.

633
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Rural pubs though, still I don't know what they like

634
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>around Bear, but here it's you're a restaurant or you die.

635
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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there are any that are actual pubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you make markup just solely on booze? Probably not well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some kind if you were seasonal. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard, yeah, I am. I was talking with Artiam

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<v Speaker 2>who owns the Warwick in Pimlico, and just the cost,

641
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<v Speaker 2>the rising costs of the staff cost, the nastal insurance,

642
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<v Speaker 2>the rising business rates, it makes it. It makes it

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult. Thankfully he's but the trend because he's just

644
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<v Speaker 2>busier than ever because the food's really good. But generally

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really hard for businesses out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's this campaign at the moment, isn't there for

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<v Speaker 1>producing the VAT for hospitality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking it from twenty percent to ten percent because for

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<v Speaker 1>non UK listeners, yes, that really is twenty percent here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, most people don't pay anywhay close to that to

652
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<v Speaker 2>day and it's certain things you you've got to realize

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<v Speaker 2>that a pub as well, there's a lot of social

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<v Speaker 2>good there's I mean, sure's there's some bad stuff around

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<v Speaker 2>a pub, but like generally a place where people can

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<v Speaker 2>meet community in a day and age where we're we're

657
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<v Speaker 2>talking about AI and stuff like that. In the day

658
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and age we're letting American tech companies just absolutely dominate

659
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<v Speaker 2>our entire lives. We should probably be supporting punishing them,

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<v Speaker 2>and supporting local businesses and places that that stitch back

661
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the fabric of community rather than you know, all sit

662
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<v Speaker 2>there looking at our phones all day and just doing

663
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<v Speaker 2>nonsensical stuff that we all seem to have been suckered into.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm pro supporting pubs.

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<v Speaker 1>We're probably the last generation that will have a fondness

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<v Speaker 1>for pubs on that because it seems like the generation,

667
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<v Speaker 1>the next generation gen Z, they didn't have the same

668
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<v Speaker 1>experience growing up and COVID really finished that up and

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of hospitality in that period. So every survey

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<v Speaker 1>and every sort of analysis of what gen Z do

671
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<v Speaker 1>is not does not veer towards drinking. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>go around London on a Thursday night and watch all

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<v Speaker 1>those apprentices and interns and everything just falling out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pubs and just viewing onto the pavement in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>They obviously are in some places, but not everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's not as bad as it's made out.

677
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<v Speaker 2>But then there are quite a lot of people that

678
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<v Speaker 2>have taken their their phones are being anti social as

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<v Speaker 2>as a lifestyle choice. There is a there's an awful

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<v Speaker 2>lot of those, but it's not everyone. And like seeing

681
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<v Speaker 2>the young farmers and things like that, that's brilliant to

682
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<v Speaker 2>see those guys actually out there doing it, living the dream,

683
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<v Speaker 2>enjoying themselves and just I think it's a really important

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of got a theory that we've We've spent

685
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God, what have you done?

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what's what's about to happen. The missus

688
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<v Speaker 2>is trying to use my card to approve the Tesco shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Turn to the app. I have approved the delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the This is the segment of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Return to the app. I have approved the payment. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Callum's the AI for his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know I'm financed. Unfortunately you're a chatbot. I'll

694
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<v Speaker 2>find myself in the position of I had to approve

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<v Speaker 2>the payment on my app because my Tesco shop is

696
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<v Speaker 2>so bloody expensive. Where were we? Yeah, I've got a

697
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<v Speaker 2>theory right that.

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<v Speaker 1>Other supermarkets are available but not in your area.

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<v Speaker 2>We have spent an awful long time sheltering everybody from

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<v Speaker 2>doing bad things and unhealthy things. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the only way that you work stuff out is by

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<v Speaker 2>making the mistakes in the first place. Like I learned

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<v Speaker 2>that I can't drink fifteen pints by drinking fifteen pints,

704
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<v Speaker 2>and then that made me really sick, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do that, so I'll stop at a much

706
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<v Speaker 2>lower These days, it's like two pints and I need

707
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<v Speaker 2>to go to bed or I need my mum. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the more we shelter from the things

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<v Speaker 2>that are bad for us, so the more information that

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, oh, we should be doing this, and we

711
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<v Speaker 2>should be doing that, and the pressure to conform to

712
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<v Speaker 2>be progressive and perfect and healthy, that the less of

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<v Speaker 2>the bad stuff, you know. So I think what we

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<v Speaker 2>really need to do is make Britain shit again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make people go out and drink more than they should,

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00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 2>make people eat too much greasy food, and just do

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<v Speaker 2>have awkward interactions with people until eventually you don't you're

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<v Speaker 2>not as awkward as you were, or you just become

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00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 2>what do they call Richard an extrovert, or you just

720
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<v Speaker 2>eventually your awkward interactions, you're getting paid for them, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking in front of the Women's Institute.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine tuning these awkward interactions down to a monetizable level.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. I think we need to make Britain shit again.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the actual an argument for in certification, which

725
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<v Speaker 1>is push people out to the limits of what they

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<v Speaker 1>can survive so that they can pull back a bit

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<v Speaker 1>and find their sort of sweet spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't think we've done like we've We've

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<v Speaker 2>ruined we've ruined pubs, We've ruined engagement with young people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to I was in a place the

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<v Speaker 2>other day and overheard the girl saying that she was

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<v Speaker 2>scared of drunk people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is a that is a thing of a

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<v Speaker 1>fear of interactions with other people, anxiety about interactions.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said that because they were because they were unpredictable,

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<v Speaker 2>which I get it, But they're not really unpredictable, are they.

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<v Speaker 2>They Like, you know, they talk loudly, they fall over things,

738
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<v Speaker 2>not having a newborn, it's a puke, just just it's

739
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<v Speaker 2>not They're not unpredictable, and it's just sad that we've

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<v Speaker 2>lost We've lost a lot of things in the past

741
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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, and we're doing a lot of things different.

742
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<v Speaker 2>So I think the in shitification, yeah, everything shit is

743
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<v Speaker 2>everything shit. I don't think it is. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>we can do more to make to make mistakes by

745
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<v Speaker 2>yourself and then learn from them.

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<v Speaker 1>And we all feel You've just made everyone feel old

747
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, talking about their youth and how far

748
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<v Speaker 1>behind it was. So I'm going to finish that off

749
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<v Speaker 1>for the main show with this little just think thing

750
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<v Speaker 1>to put people at ease and make them feel warm

751
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and fuzzy about the direction their life has gone. You know,

752
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<v Speaker 1>the film Back to the Future, I do the first

753
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 1>film was nineteen eighty five and he travels back thirty

754
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<v Speaker 1>years and time to nineteen fifty five. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>were making that today, Martin McFly would travel back to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 2>Spice Girl, Yeah, oh wow. I'm pretty sure Toy Story

758
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<v Speaker 2>was the film of the year nineteen ninety six. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone feels old now, Right onto the after show,

760
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<v Speaker 1>which is for patrons only, but everyone else, We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you again next week, which will feature a live recording

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<v Speaker 1>in the field with Richard Nigas and I but probably

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<v Speaker 1>not Callum because he'll still be paying for his test

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<v Speaker 1>coat shop.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta get it, Gotta me keep somehow Bye. Why