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Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful day to fight. This has to be one
Speaker 2: of the nicest days in the.
Speaker 1: History of the great state of Colorado. Absolutely picture perfect.
Speaker 2: So hope you're enjoying it.
Speaker 1: I hope you're able to enjoy the great weekend ahead,
Speaker 1: and Lord knows, we have plenty to talk about, always
Speaker 1: grateful for that. We expect to be joined by David Copple,
Speaker 1: truly iconic gun expert, firearms expert, firearms law expert, and
Speaker 1: we look forward to David coppel with us on the
Speaker 1: show to talk about Senate Bill three. As you probably
Speaker 1: don't know because there just seems to be no public
Speaker 1: interest or appetite for this. But Senator Michael Bennett now
Speaker 1: officially in the race for governor in Colorado and you know,
Speaker 1: racking up all these different endorsements, etc. I want to
Speaker 1: talk with you about that. I know you probably don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about it, and we work for you here,
Speaker 1: so It may be a short conversation, but I at
Speaker 1: least have to try, because it does look at this
Speaker 1: point as if he's likely to be the Democrat nominee,
Speaker 1: and so which means that he would have a good
Speaker 1: chance to become the next governor. So we should at
Speaker 1: least have the conversation. Now, count me among those who
Speaker 1: think that the right GOP nominee definitely has a path
Speaker 1: to victory here, and we'll continue to talk about that,
Speaker 1: and if you disagree, we'll take your call or your
Speaker 1: text first. But I think there is a path here,
Speaker 1: not an easy one. But it wouldn't be any fun
Speaker 1: if it was easy, right, It's not meant to be easy.
Speaker 1: What among the greatest accomplishments in human history has been easy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Three or three someone three A two five five text
Speaker 1: d an five seven seven three nine. Lots more on
Speaker 1: the agenda this afternoon as well, And you know, we
Speaker 1: need to spend at least a little bit of time
Speaker 1: on this guilty plea in the Justice Kevanaugh case. Remember
Speaker 1: when you had this killer who traveled to Justice Kavanaugh's
Speaker 1: home and he was going to kill Justice Kevanaugh. Go
Speaker 1: right into his home that night, killed Justice Kavanaugh with
Speaker 1: his family there in order to prevent the Dobbs decision
Speaker 1: from being formalized. And so that deserves a little bit
Speaker 1: more attention, right particularly when you've had Chuck Schumer, leader
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, out there openly by name calling
Speaker 1: for violence against Kavanaugh. I still don't understand why Schumer
Speaker 1: has not been criminally charged over that. So we'll touch
Speaker 1: on that, We'll update that as well. Jeff cost Schools,
Speaker 1: Jeff Co Schools getting more and more attention. Boy Lindsay
Speaker 1: Datko and that whole group out there, you know, just
Speaker 1: do a phenomenal job, some of the best we've ever
Speaker 1: seen when it comes to grassroots activism. A real privilege
Speaker 1: now to go to the VIP line and welcome David
Speaker 1: Koppel to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 2: If you're new to the area.
Speaker 1: David is truly a Colorado icon, known for his work
Speaker 1: in so many different ways, but the Independence Institute, where
Speaker 1: he's research director and junk Scholar at the Cato Institute
Speaker 1: and University of Yoming now Senior Fellow, College of Law
Speaker 1: Firearms Research Center. David, Welcome back to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 3: It's great to be back with one of the best
Speaker 3: long running radio hosts in the Rocky Mountains.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for saying that, my friend, I tend
Speaker 1: to look at myself as a survivor but grateful to
Speaker 1: be here. And Wow, the very first name that popped
Speaker 1: into my mind when we heard that police had signed
Speaker 1: Senate Bill three, obviously is you, because I've never known
Speaker 1: anybody with a more commanding grasp of all things related
Speaker 1: to firearms, starting with firearms law and jurisprudence. So, David,
Speaker 1: if you could just start by giving folks your take
Speaker 1: on Senate Bill three.
Speaker 3: Well, it started off as a bill to ban the
Speaker 3: future sale and transfer of all summer atomadic hand guns
Speaker 3: and all semi automatic rifles and shotguns that take make
Speaker 3: that use detachable magazines, which is the predominant type of
Speaker 3: modern rifle, and it exempts twenty two caliber the time
Speaker 3: calder for plank into ten cans. It got then modified
Speaker 3: into a very onerous licensing law which will require it
Speaker 3: requires three different steps where you have to pay a fee.
Speaker 3: There is no cap on the fee, and at every
Speaker 3: step none of the government actors involved have any deadlines
Speaker 3: by which they're supposed to say, process and application and
Speaker 3: approve you or deny you. It will make the cost
Speaker 3: of purchasing these guns. Well, the Polish administration today said
Speaker 3: that one step of there's one particular step, which is
Speaker 3: some training by the Colorado Department of Wildlife. And they
Speaker 3: say that's and plus we're having to register and pay
Speaker 3: fees to the Department of Wildlife so you can put
Speaker 3: on a registry as a gun owner. And they said
Speaker 3: they're going to try to keep the cost of that
Speaker 3: to two hundred dollars, but that's just part of the thing.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be fees probably equal to the
Speaker 3: cost of a medium quality, normal handgun find you buy
Speaker 3: from Taurus or Smith and Western or Ruger Glock, all
Speaker 3: that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, So they're trying to create this financial barrier.
Speaker 1: I thought they cared about poor people, but wow.
Speaker 3: Well they care about so much about They care so
Speaker 3: much about.
Speaker 2: Poor people that they believe they.
Speaker 3: Can make better decisions for poor people than poor people
Speaker 3: can themselves. And gun ownership being something that is seen
Speaker 3: as intrinsically evil by lead sponsor Tom Sullivan and quite
Speaker 3: a lot of Democrats in the current legislature, they're helping
Speaker 3: poor people by preventing them from being able to acquire
Speaker 3: modern firearms.
Speaker 1: Wow, David Kopler, guests from the Independence Institute. Now I
Speaker 1: think you're the best person in the country other than
Speaker 1: maybe at this point, Justice Roberts answer the question as
Speaker 1: to whether this is going to be upheld. Is this
Speaker 1: going to withstand constitutional challenge?
Speaker 3: Well, it's an extreme bill in some ways because despite
Speaker 3: the lies the sponsors told, they wrote it. So that
Speaker 3: includes every model of modern semi automatic handgun. Well, I mean,
Speaker 3: and by modern, I mean everything invented since eighteen eighty five,
Speaker 3: when when the first one was invented, with the exception
Speaker 3: of one particular model made by Barretta. Other than that,
Speaker 3: it's all. It's every modern semi automatic handgun, not revolvers,
Speaker 3: which are maybe about a one sixth of new handguns. So,
Speaker 3: on the one hand, you can say it's unconstitutional under
Speaker 3: the standard the Supreme Court set in the case of
Speaker 3: New York State Rifle and Pistol Association versus Bruin, where
Speaker 3: the Court said, we interpreted the Second Amendment based on
Speaker 3: its original meaning and text, but that that original meaning
Speaker 3: can be shown not only by things before seventeen ninety one,
Speaker 3: when the Second Amental was adopted, but also things close
Speaker 3: to the ratification period, and the further you get away
Speaker 3: from the ratification period, the less valuable any historical evidence is.
Speaker 3: And set the Court in Bruin and after nineteen hundred,
Speaker 3: it's completely pointless. You're not going to get any information
Speaker 3: about original meaning from a law that was passed in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty eight. So there's nothing remotely comparable to this
Speaker 3: anywhere in American jurisprudence before nineteen hundred, with the option
Speaker 3: of laws in some of the slave states that said
Speaker 3: free people of color can only have a firearm if
Speaker 3: they get a special license other than that. So, on
Speaker 3: the one hand, I just gave you the argument against
Speaker 3: the law being constitutional. The argument on the other side
Speaker 3: is even acknowledging what I just said. The Supreme Court
Speaker 3: in footnote nine of the Bruin case said, we don't
Speaker 3: mean to cast any doubt on laws. Shall issue laws
Speaker 3: for concealed handgun permits and shall issue laws like the
Speaker 3: ones one Colorado adopted in two thousand and one, is
Speaker 3: that you have to go through a certain process to
Speaker 3: But it's a pretty fair process to get a permit
Speaker 3: to carry a concealed handgun. You know, you would have
Speaker 3: to fill out a form. In some states you'd have
Speaker 3: to including Colorado, you'd have to be fingerprinted, you'd have
Speaker 3: to provide proof of safety training, and then you pay
Speaker 3: a fee. And all that in Colorado has done in
Speaker 3: a generally reasonable way. And the sheriffs who issue the
Speaker 3: permits have to make a decision yes or no within
Speaker 3: a certain period of time. And so they would be
Speaker 3: defenders of this law of Colorado. Attarney General Phil Wiser will.
Speaker 2: Say, oh, this is just a licensing law, like.
Speaker 3: The court approved in Bruin in footnote nine. The answer
Speaker 3: back to that is, well, they approved to that of
Speaker 3: licensing for carrying a handgun in a public place. That's
Speaker 3: different from just having something in your own home. And secondly,
Speaker 3: what the court approved of was shall issue laws, which is,
Speaker 3: you know, you apply for a permit, a field carry permit,
Speaker 3: and the issuing authority has to make a decision within
Speaker 3: ninety or one hundred and twenty days six day and
Speaker 3: it varies from state to state. And this one has
Speaker 3: no deadlines on when permits are supposed to be issued.
Speaker 3: And likewise, the court said, you can't have exorbited fees,
Speaker 3: and we have no fee caps at all in this legislation.
Speaker 3: And then the answer back to that is, well, you know,
Speaker 3: Maryland has this pretty rigorous system to buy a handgun
Speaker 3: in the first place, with a five day waiting period
Speaker 3: and a background check and all this stuff, and then
Speaker 3: they layered a handgun qualification license on top of that.
Speaker 3: A federal district court said that's unconstitutional. You know, nothing
Speaker 3: like it in the American history that matters. But the
Speaker 3: Fourth Circuit upheld that, and so the Attorney General Wiser
Speaker 3: will rely heavily on the Fourth Circuit opinion for saying,
Speaker 3: you can have pretty harsh licensing systems that you know,
Speaker 3: may take a month or more to go through just
Speaker 3: to have a handgun in your home.
Speaker 2: Wow, our special guests.
Speaker 3: But even there, the Maryland thing is distinguishable because it
Speaker 3: does have mandatory time periods in it, for example, and
Speaker 3: caps on the fees. And then the response to that
Speaker 3: is the journey General Wiser would say, well, you know, look,
Speaker 3: if we start charging exorbitant fees, we agree that's un
Speaker 3: constitutional Underheller, but we haven't even set the fees yet,
Speaker 3: so how can you say we're exorbited? And likewise, you know,
Speaker 3: if it took six months to get a permit that
Speaker 3: would be unreasonable. But we haven't even started issuing permits
Speaker 3: lone and going to effect until August twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: So you can't really sue us to say we're doing
Speaker 3: a bad job until we actually start doing a bad job.
Speaker 1: Okay, And so that was going to be my next question.
Speaker 1: Given how they've set this up, does that mean that
Speaker 1: it cannot be constitutionally challenged until they've answered these other questions?
Speaker 3: Maybe? Or that gets into the real complies the plaintiffs
Speaker 3: lawyers in this case are going to have to deal
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, Sometimes you can have reinforcement challenges to
Speaker 3: laws before their effective date, but that's that's often more
Speaker 3: at the least, it's more difficult. Well, David, And at
Speaker 3: the least you if you if you say there's actually
Speaker 3: problems and how the law is being administered, you have
Speaker 3: to wait till you can show how the law is
Speaker 3: actually being administered.
Speaker 1: Usually, Well, David, what I would love to do, and
Speaker 1: I know you're the busiest guy in town, but I
Speaker 1: would love to get you in here sometime for an
Speaker 1: hour and just let everybody pick your brain on all
Speaker 1: things firearms and firearms law, because truly there's no better authority,
Speaker 1: but very grateful for your time today.
Speaker 3: That sounds fun and I'd be happy to do it,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe in May or whatever, if it's your schedule.
Speaker 2: That sounds great. Thank you, my friend. Have a great weekend. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 2: I take care.
Speaker 1: That is truly just a one of the icons in Colorado.
Speaker 1: David koppel If you're new to the area, everything that
Speaker 1: he's written, because I've never been and met anybody who
Speaker 1: understands it better. You know, when you talk about somebody
Speaker 1: who understands every piece of it, including the legal piece
Speaker 1: and all of the Supreme Court precedent, etc. He's a remarkable,
Speaker 1: remarkable resource. So check them out at the Independence Institute.
Speaker 1: David Kopple, you're on the Dankapla.
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Speaker 5: The Center from Texas shut this government down in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 5: My stay was flooded, it was underwater. People were killed,
Speaker 5: people's houses were destroyed, their small businesses were ruined forever.
Speaker 5: And because of the Senator from Texas, this government was shut.
Speaker 2: Down for politics.
Speaker 5: Then he's served to a second place finish.
Speaker 2: In the Iowa Caucuses. But we're of no help.
Speaker 5: To the first responders, to the teachers, to the students
Speaker 5: whose schools.
Speaker 2: Were closed.
Speaker 5: With the federal government there was shut down because of
Speaker 5: the junior senator from Texas. Now it's his business, not
Speaker 5: my business, why he supports the president who wants to
Speaker 5: erect a medieval barrier on the border of Texas.
Speaker 2: That's perfect, that, that is perfect. Yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett now in the governor's race in Colorado. This
Speaker 1: is going to be fascinating to watch because Phil Wiser
Speaker 1: is in the primary also, but for how long?
Speaker 2: Right? For how long?
Speaker 1: And as someone who wants the GEOP nominee to win,
Speaker 1: whoever she or.
Speaker 2: He may be, what do you want more?
Speaker 1: Do you want Wiser to stay in the race or
Speaker 1: get out of the race, because you know, if Wiser
Speaker 1: stays in the race, the more beat up Bennett's going
Speaker 1: to get because they both have to be I mean, they're,
Speaker 1: you know, accomplished in their own individual lives, right, but
Speaker 1: when it comes to serving the public, they both have
Speaker 1: to be among the least accomplished people ever for the
Speaker 1: jobs that they've held. And so do you want them
Speaker 1: just kind of beating each other up until they face
Speaker 1: the GOP nominee, or do you want it appears to
Speaker 1: be a plan right now to run Wiser out of
Speaker 1: the race because Joe No Goose was there today endorsing Bennett.
Speaker 1: Jason Crow as well, but that's irrelevant. I mean, Joe
Speaker 1: No Goose was his big competition. I kind of like
Speaker 1: Ryan's theory that there's you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: allege that they're breaking the law because you can't sell
Speaker 1: or trade a Senate seat, But.
Speaker 2: Is there some hope out there.
Speaker 1: On the part of no Goose backing Bennett. Now, if
Speaker 1: Bennett wins, he gets appointed to Bennett's Senate seat.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there probably is right that hope.
Speaker 1: But anyway, or do you want to see Bennett be
Speaker 1: able to run Wiser out of the race and then
Speaker 1: just go unopposed until he has to face the Republican
Speaker 1: Because again, you got two things with Michael Bennett, right,
Speaker 1: just a stunning, striking, almost unimaginable lack of accomplishment for
Speaker 1: anybody serving that.
Speaker 2: Long as a US Senator.
Speaker 1: But then on top of that, and this is kind
Speaker 1: of the Polish syndrome, the Hickenlooper syndrome, the every elected
Speaker 1: to major office Democrats syndrome in Colorado.
Speaker 2: They live in this bubble where.
Speaker 1: That they never have to be asked hard questions, certainly
Speaker 1: not ask hard follow up questions. People lose their access
Speaker 1: to them as reporters if they're willing to ask them
Speaker 1: hard questions.
Speaker 2: So if they ever had the ability, the skill.
Speaker 1: The muscle to be able to handle tough questions, they've
Speaker 1: lost it by the time they have to run a
Speaker 1: tough race. And I'm not sure Michael Bennett even ever
Speaker 1: had that skill. But here he is today with Rob
Speaker 1: Dawson and Rob Dawson from the newsroom. He's a consummate journalist.
Speaker 1: He's no flamethrower. And Michael Bennett seems irritated.
Speaker 3: By your credit say they don't stand up.
Speaker 2: Finally, the state.
Speaker 4: And some people may not really know you if you.
Speaker 5: Feel like I think that's just absolute nonsense. There isn't
Speaker 5: anybody who has spent more time in Colorado that I
Speaker 5: have as a statewide elected official.
Speaker 2: What is that? That this just madness.
Speaker 1: There's nobody in Colorado who spent more time here as a.
Speaker 2: Statewide elected official. See the governor.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, But that's the point is Michael Bennett
Speaker 1: is thoroughly unaccomplished for all those years as a US senator.
Speaker 2: But he also has has never had to get in
Speaker 2: a fight.
Speaker 1: He's he's never had to defend his positions, He's never
Speaker 1: had to get into a true debate. And this is
Speaker 1: Rob Dawson, that the nicest, most down the middle journalist
Speaker 1: you're ever going to find. Ask him a simple question
Speaker 1: about criticism of him and what happens with Bennett.
Speaker 2: Not just the tone, which does not bode well for him,
Speaker 2: but he.
Speaker 1: Starts saying stuff that that's an obvious falsehood on a
Speaker 1: simple question like that, This is going to be fun,
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be fun for whoever
Speaker 1: the GOP nominee is.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Capsla Show.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: This to me is.
Speaker 6: One of the most shocking pieces of poll data I
Speaker 6: truly truthfully have seen this year, maybe in any prior year.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's really.
Speaker 6: Because I want you to take a little cares more
Speaker 6: about the needs for people like you. You mentioned to
Speaker 6: Kate Paul, we got a tie even after this tariff
Speaker 6: war had already started, split between Democrats and Republicans on
Speaker 6: how people feel of which party here's more for needs.
Speaker 2: Of people like you?
Speaker 6: And why is that so surprising? Because I want you
Speaker 6: to take a look at prior years. Democrats always lead
Speaker 6: on this question. Back in twenty seventeen, before the twenty
Speaker 6: eighteen meate terms, thirteen point lead, two thousand and five,
Speaker 6: a twenty three point lead for Democrats, nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 6: which was a big Republican year, a nineteen point lead
Speaker 6: for Democrats, and now.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, a tie.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, the Democrats, who are the party
Speaker 6: of the people no more, no more, we get a
Speaker 6: tie on this question, on a question that has traditionally
Speaker 6: overwhelmingly been a Democratic advantage people for party, which party
Speaker 6: cares more for the needs of people like you. It's
Speaker 6: truly something I would not have expected to see, especially.
Speaker 2: After this tarafor had begun.
Speaker 1: See this is seismic to me. This is the single
Speaker 1: most important poll result you'll hear in five years. And
Speaker 1: this is a question you just don't hear ask that often.
Speaker 1: But it's at the heart of everything, right, because what
Speaker 1: motivates people's vote. People tend to vote their self interest,
Speaker 1: which means you're going to vote for Okay, who cares
Speaker 1: more about me. But then you look get that sea
Speaker 1: change right from the Democrats always win on this and
Speaker 1: it goes to what I've been saying forever as a
Speaker 1: former Democrat, what I've been saying forever. For the GOP
Speaker 1: to win and for the wind to matter, the GOP
Speaker 1: has to be the party of the working people. And
Speaker 1: that is what Donald Trump has done. And part of
Speaker 1: accomplishing that has been to expose the left for who
Speaker 1: they really are. Right Because again, as a former Democrat,
Speaker 1: I was a Democrat for years. Most of my extended
Speaker 1: family outside of Colorado are Democrats, and so I know
Speaker 1: of what I speak here. You know, people vote habitually
Speaker 1: for these Democrats over the years, and I know we
Speaker 1: get a lot of callers who just want to put
Speaker 1: all Democrat voters into this same old, looney tuned far
Speaker 1: left bucket. And if you want to live in that
Speaker 1: state of denial, you're welcome to. But you're going to
Speaker 1: miss an opportunity here, because the opportunity is to capture
Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats as Republican voter. And that is
Speaker 1: because you got so many good people out there. They
Speaker 1: are patriotic, they love God, they love America, and they
Speaker 1: get the abortions of killing of an innocent life. They've
Speaker 1: just been voting habitually Democrat for years and they've got
Speaker 1: this terrible stereotype of Republicans. And so what's happened now
Speaker 1: is between the appeal of Donald Trump and exposing the
Speaker 1: left as the lunatics they are.
Speaker 2: You have this big chunk of people.
Speaker 1: Who are starting to break away from the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: and see they really don't care about them. It is
Speaker 1: hard for the Democratic Party to convince anybody they care
Speaker 1: about them when they say, oh, yeah, men should be.
Speaker 2: In your daughter's shower. It's really hard to pull that off.
Speaker 1: And so this is a moment, This is a tipping
Speaker 1: point moment. But here's the danger, and the danger lurks, and.
Speaker 2: It is a big, big beast.
Speaker 1: Here's the danger that historically important and great victory. Then
Speaker 1: Trump just won. The operative word is Trump. Those were
Speaker 1: Trump voters who put him over the top, not Republican voters.
Speaker 1: And this is not transferable automatically. Maybe Republican candidates can
Speaker 1: earn the support of that margin of Trump voters that
Speaker 1: made the difference, but it's not automatically going to transfer
Speaker 1: Those were Trump voters, not Republican voters.
Speaker 2: So the GOP has a lot of work.
Speaker 1: To do in a hurry to earn the support of
Speaker 1: those Trump voters who made the difference. But the opportunity
Speaker 1: is clearly there, and it shows in the polls. And
Speaker 1: it goes back to my big pitch to you, which was, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is so important that President Trump win and save
Speaker 1: America again and his voters save America again.
Speaker 2: And that happened, and thank God for it.
Speaker 1: But what's almost equally important is that the Left be
Speaker 1: exposed for who they are, that enough people see that
Speaker 1: it is not your father's Democratic Party, is not the Democratic.
Speaker 2: Party of five years ago.
Speaker 1: This is a far left, lunatic bunch in charge.
Speaker 2: And if they had their way, your daughter's shower.
Speaker 1: Would be full of men, and if they had your way,
Speaker 1: your daughter's sports would be full of men, and if
Speaker 1: they had their way, you know lots of other crazy,
Speaker 1: insane stuff that half the Democrats would never want, let
Speaker 1: alone the rest of the country. So that has been
Speaker 1: happening largely thanks to President Trump. But President Trump has
Speaker 1: also inspired other Democrats. Right, It's like President Trump has
Speaker 1: been some sort of transplant surgeon who has caused a
Speaker 1: lot of Republicans who used to be kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: Wimbledon rule Republicans and this and that to grow body parts.
Speaker 1: It's almost magical. And so you have more Republicans now
Speaker 1: who are willing to do two things. They're willing to
Speaker 1: street fight. They're willing to street fight. Now, you always
Speaker 1: got to tell the truth and you always got to
Speaker 1: obey the law. But they're willing to street fight, and
Speaker 1: they're willing to speak those hard truths that so many
Speaker 1: were afraid to speak before. And so he has inspired
Speaker 1: this different type of Republican and it's been a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing to see. And that's why the bench is so
Speaker 1: deep right now. And so we are at this beautiful
Speaker 1: moment in American history where there is this tremendous opportunity.
Speaker 1: But this single poll today, and if you just joined us,
Speaker 1: the most important poll result you'll hear in five years
Speaker 1: on a question you rarely hear polled, which is who
Speaker 1: cares more about you?
Speaker 2: Which party?
Speaker 1: Democrats always win on this, Republicans are tied now and
Speaker 1: tied in the midst of the tariff the tariff stuff, right,
Speaker 1: because Americans get this, certainly, working Americans do the whole
Speaker 1: point of the tariffs is to working people in America
Speaker 1: and to bring manufacturing back to America. And people get that,
Speaker 1: and it's so funny. You see these political experts. You know, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, Americans won't endure any pain. Those so called experts,
Speaker 1: they don't understand working people. The toughest people you will
Speaker 1: find in America as a group are working people. They
Speaker 1: know pain. Their life is full of pain. It's full
Speaker 1: of physical.
Speaker 2: Pain on the job. Often, it's full of the.
Speaker 1: Pain of worrying about how they're going to pay the
Speaker 1: bills that they need to pay. It's full of a
Speaker 1: lot of pain. But it's also full of a lot
Speaker 1: of morality and virtue and values, because you know that
Speaker 1: the whole life isn't oh how do I protect my
Speaker 1: millions or how do I manage my tens of millions.
Speaker 1: Life is generally speaking, so much more centered around values
Speaker 1: and virtue and moral and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean you don't have a whole lot
Speaker 1: of very moral rich people.
Speaker 2: You do.
Speaker 1: But I'm just talking about how the elites fundamentally misunderstand
Speaker 1: working people, which is why they got their tails kicked
Speaker 1: in the last election and why this pole just turned
Speaker 1: out the way it did. So whoever these Colorado candidates are,
Speaker 1: I sure hope they understand that, and I sure hope
Speaker 1: they do that, and I sure hope with the guy
Speaker 1: like Michael Bennett. And if you didn't hear the sound
Speaker 1: we played of him being interviewed by Rob Dawson from
Speaker 1: our newsroom, I'll play that in the next segment. Because
Speaker 1: there is such an opportunity to beat him, and I'm
Speaker 1: assuming he will be the dem nominee, but such an
Speaker 1: opportunity to beat him. He's got a glass jaw, he
Speaker 1: can't take a punch, he's not a fighter, he has
Speaker 1: no experience fighting, he has almost no accomplishments, and for
Speaker 1: the amount of time he's been in the US Senate,
Speaker 1: it's stunning, it's almost physically impossible how few accomplishments he has.
Speaker 1: So he is a guy who can be beaten. And
Speaker 1: then what's interesting to me, I mean, you talk about
Speaker 1: in this environment right now where so many people say,
Speaker 1: wait a second, that we've got to control our border,
Speaker 1: we've got to be throwing out of the country people
Speaker 1: here illegally. Some of the stuff Michael Bennett has son
Speaker 1: and said and done on that in the past he
Speaker 1: can run from that, but he can't hide.
Speaker 2: I mean, the media won't call him on it.
Speaker 1: But a good GOP candidate with the right kind of
Speaker 1: team and everything else, you can let the people of
Speaker 1: Colorado know. This guy's the last guy in the world
Speaker 1: you want as governor of Colorado at a time you
Speaker 1: want to make sure that people here illegally or committing
Speaker 1: crimes get thrown out. There is a lot of opportunity here.
Speaker 1: Three or three someone three two five five the number
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Speaker 2: And when we come back, we will play that sound.
Speaker 1: Rob Dawson from the newsroom, just the most straight up reporter.
Speaker 2: Down the middle you'll ever find. You hear him on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: I try to go to him into some kind of
Speaker 1: controversial comment or something, he'll never go there. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: a simple question of Michael Bennett, and Bennett goes off
Speaker 1: on him, start saying goofy stuff that's clearly false and
Speaker 1: provably false. And then Rob tells me and Bennett said,
Speaker 1: if he gets elected governor, he's going to appoint his
Speaker 1: successor to the US Senate, not Polis.
Speaker 2: And you know he's going to stay in the Senate
Speaker 2: during the race. How do you think that's going to
Speaker 2: go over with the people of Colorado. You're on the
Speaker 2: Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7: AOC seems to be doing, you know, from tweeting people
Speaker 7: to buystock and then later announcing his development on taxes.
Speaker 2: If people are pissed about.
Speaker 7: Insider trading here at the house, look at what's happening
Speaker 7: at the White House right now.
Speaker 1: Senator Kennedy at the line right, AOC is the reason
Speaker 1: you have directions on a shampoo bottle. I mean, my goodness,
Speaker 1: So it's insider trading. Now to tell everyone, to tell
Speaker 1: the entire world it's a great time to buy stocks,
Speaker 1: that's insider trading. Hey, think about this, Think about the
Speaker 1: beauty of this. Trump knows when he says that right
Speaker 1: that the only people who are going to do it
Speaker 1: are the people who trust him. So he makes the
Speaker 1: information available to everybody, and the haters can miss out
Speaker 1: and lose money, and the people who trust him will
Speaker 1: make money. I can guarantee you Ryan, the second I
Speaker 1: saw that, like the millisecond, I saw that because we've
Speaker 1: been talking about on the show, right, We've been talking
Speaker 1: about on the show since the second Trump announced Liberation Day,
Speaker 1: the tariffs, everything else, and my belief and as I
Speaker 1: always say, if I tell you anything about investing, do
Speaker 1: the opposite.
Speaker 2: But it's gratefully it's worked out well for us.
Speaker 1: So second I saw that it was okay, got to
Speaker 1: put some more in.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, if I remember the timing, Ryan,
Speaker 1: I think it probably happened short time after the market's
Speaker 1: opened that day because I had already lined up some
Speaker 1: additional investments that morning just believing that the market was
Speaker 1: going to come back. I didn't necessarily expect it to
Speaker 1: be that quick. I expected for a long time. We're
Speaker 1: going to see ups and downs now for a while
Speaker 1: as all of this plays out. But because I believe
Speaker 1: in Trump's plan, because I believe in Trump, and it's
Speaker 1: largely in Trump's control and he has a history of
Speaker 1: creating leverage and using it well. That my belief is
Speaker 1: it sometime in the next six months to a year,
Speaker 1: it's all going to come back.
Speaker 2: It's going to come back stronger than ever.
Speaker 1: It's going to come back like a coiled spring, and
Speaker 1: it's going to go even higher.
Speaker 2: So I'm not anything I'm doing and my.
Speaker 1: Little investment world is not based on day trading or
Speaker 1: oh hey, I'm going to make a lot of money
Speaker 1: in the next forty eight hours or forty eight days.
Speaker 1: It's based on that longer but not long view. So anyway, anyway,
Speaker 1: just love that aoc winding. My guess is that she
Speaker 1: did not make any investment there, right, So that's the
Speaker 1: beauty of it. From Trump's standpoint, Well, people who hate him,
Speaker 1: we're going to use the information he provided everybody to
Speaker 1: not buy and the people who trust him to buy.
Speaker 4: By no definition of the term insider trading.
Speaker 2: Does what she just describe apply.
Speaker 1: No, But remember these are the people who were trying
Speaker 1: to have him die in jail for crimes he didn't commit, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that's but hey, it sounds like she knows
Speaker 1: how to fly.
Speaker 6: Socialist Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez responded.
Speaker 8: Flying first class to a Bernie Sanders rally last night.
Speaker 1: Now, listen, come on, no, right, if I think one
Speaker 1: of the great joys and pleasures of life is to
Speaker 1: fly first class.
Speaker 2: And every now and then, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: Since the time I used to load bags, you know,
Speaker 1: for then Continental airlines and back then.
Speaker 2: You know, your flight. Pri it was a beautiful thing
Speaker 2: because they.
Speaker 1: Put you right up there in first class ahead of
Speaker 1: some big shot and it was a beautiful thing. But
Speaker 1: you don't use taxpayer money. No, no, but but really
Speaker 1: that's right, And come on now, I don't care. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't care how much money I had. If I'm
Speaker 1: going off to lead some uh torch and pitchfork rally
Speaker 1: against the man and I'm a public figure, I'm probably
Speaker 1: dragging my behind back to the economy seats right next
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, you know what I mean, which I
Speaker 1: flew in plenty of times over the years.
Speaker 2: Those are rough seats.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you're and with young kids especially,
Speaker 1: we would go back and we would get those seats
Speaker 1: so you're right next to the bathroom. That those can
Speaker 1: be tough flights.
Speaker 2: Since what do you need that?
Speaker 8: So the worst time I had was when I got
Speaker 8: out here and I was one K on United and
Speaker 8: I actually had VPS SVPs and my bosses go back
Speaker 8: into economy when I was first class.
Speaker 2: Ooh, who that's rough. That is rough. It was very rough.
Speaker 1: Maybe the single best move I ever made other than
Speaker 1: proposing to my wife, though under some tough circumstances for
Speaker 1: her right. But if you don't know the story, we
Speaker 1: were on live TV and it made it a little
Speaker 1: awkward for her to say no. So fortunately she said yes,
Speaker 1: and thirty one years later, thirty years going on thirty one,
Speaker 1: we're still there.
Speaker 2: But here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I'm flying out to my first, big, big case when
Speaker 1: I was a younger lawyer, and I'm flying out with
Speaker 1: my co counsul's pairalegal, who's this amazingly talented, accomplished pairalegal
Speaker 1: and my co counsel. God rest his soul now has
Speaker 1: passed away. But we're flying to Alaska to look for
Speaker 1: a star witness together and same thing, Kelly. I somehow
Speaker 1: ended up with the first class seat, and this is
Speaker 1: going to be a long, tough flight. I ended up
Speaker 1: with the first class seat, and here's my co counsul's
Speaker 1: pair of legal having to go to the back of
Speaker 1: the plane. I said, no way, no way, you're taking
Speaker 1: this first class seat. And then what did I find out?
Speaker 1: What did I find out later? His pair of legal
Speaker 1: was his sister, Oh, which I had never been told.
Speaker 8: So well, it was very awkward and I only did
Speaker 8: it once and then I just basically disregarded every other
Speaker 8: upgrade after that, even though I was one K for
Speaker 8: like a year. I was like, Okay, I'll just let
Speaker 8: it go. But by the way, who could not hold
Speaker 8: want you to run for governor?
Speaker 1: Well, that is so kind to them, That is so
Speaker 1: kind of them. Believe me, it is really, really, really tempting.
Speaker 1: Man who wouldn't want who wouldn't want to just tee
Speaker 1: it up with Michael Bennett, Who wouldn't want to get
Speaker 1: in the ring with Michael Bennett?
Speaker 2: Right?
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