Speaker 1: What's happening Billy crapping in It is officially two thousand
Speaker 1: twenty six. It is a warm sixty eight degrees fahrenheit
Speaker 1: here in Baton Rouge. I am Mike Hardy Here. Here,
Speaker 1: I am Mike Maharty here as always with Mary Kish. Mary,
Speaker 1: you get the intro first, because Dan fucking interrupted me again.
Speaker 2: He doesn't like it when you bring up the weather.
Speaker 2: But I think that the people want to know what
Speaker 2: the father was.
Speaker 3: He's lying.
Speaker 1: It's probably sixty eight. Let me look up bad No,
Speaker 1: wasn't that right last time I looked it up. How
Speaker 1: are you doing, Mary?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm well rested and relaxed after a
Speaker 2: nice couple of couple of weeks where I just got
Speaker 2: to chill. I've been playing a lot of games. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about that in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But everything Arena.
Speaker 2: Every Christmas, I get an old game, yeah, and I
Speaker 2: play through it as a part of my Smith's break.
Speaker 2: That is a part of what I do. And I've
Speaker 2: been doing Zelda's for the last few years because they
Speaker 2: take like five days to get through. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: got a new CRT. I got another new CRT. I
Speaker 2: have three now. I wish I took a photo of it.
Speaker 2: You guys should have seen my car.
Speaker 1: I went to crtvs.
Speaker 2: I went to a cabin in the woods and there
Speaker 2: was we almost didn't have room for the food because
Speaker 2: I had three CRTs buckled into each seat. One of
Speaker 2: them is a nine inch It's so cute. It's just
Speaker 2: the cutest little baby TV. I put Jurassic Park on it.
Speaker 2: You can barely see the t rex. I mean they
Speaker 2: are tiny, but awesome, awesome TVs for the for the holiday,
Speaker 2: and for you know, playing Star Fox. I had a
Speaker 2: great time.
Speaker 3: Next time I go to Portland, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 3: your place and it's gonna be like the Dark Night,
Speaker 3: like Monitor Wall where all CRT stack.
Speaker 1: You type your name in and it just starts exploding. Dan, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: damn yeah, Mary, you've spoken enough. Dan, that's yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Hi, Yes, there's I slept till four pm today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should. We should clarify if there's any h
Speaker 1: fogginess on our part. It's literally New Year's Day. It's
Speaker 1: the night of New Year's Day, but it's January.
Speaker 2: You guys have a bit of the hair of the dog.
Speaker 2: Everybody does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna I do fairly dry, you know,
Speaker 3: January or certain rules and stuff starting today. But there
Speaker 3: was an open bottle of white wine from my party
Speaker 3: last night, and it would just be irresponsible not to
Speaker 3: do it. So this is my last day for a bit.
Speaker 2: Here you pour it down the drain like an animal.
Speaker 3: You can't do that. That's insane.
Speaker 1: No, I'd be wasting some hard work. Well kind of
Speaker 1: what let me can I guess from the what it
Speaker 1: looks like? Don't tell me why it looks like? Do
Speaker 1: you know what it is?
Speaker 3: Not really so yellow?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's probably a gold Chardonay with
Speaker 1: like full malactic from tas water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like we said on the party invite thing
Speaker 3: that like, oh bring if you want to, you can
Speaker 3: bring you know, food or drink or whatever. But like
Speaker 3: we ordered a ton of head. I got a ton
Speaker 3: of beer and liquor and stuff like that. But everyone
Speaker 3: just brings a bottle of wine. So it's like I
Speaker 3: have like like twelve new bottles of wine that people brought,
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, shit, try not to drink as
Speaker 3: much in January. But I'll get to it.
Speaker 2: I understand why people do that though, because a bottle
Speaker 2: of wine is something I'm willing to give up. It's like,
Speaker 2: especially if it's like a twelve fifteen dollars bottle, It's like,
Speaker 2: you can have this. It's a decent gift. Whereas like
Speaker 2: if you drink beer and you bring a twelve pack,
Speaker 2: because I can take down six beers in a night,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna bring six, I'll drink more than that.
Speaker 2: Then I have to leave beers at your house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a lot of beer too, which is nice.
Speaker 3: You know who the MVP of bringing stuff to a
Speaker 3: party is Tim. Tim Terry is fantastic, but he was
Speaker 3: in California this year. John Carson Formula a game informer.
Speaker 3: He is from Wisconsin and so he always brings this
Speaker 3: giant platter of like cheese kurds and awesome Wisconsin cheese
Speaker 3: and crackers and this new Galarious beer from Wisconsin, which
Speaker 3: is amazing. It's a man. He just pulls up and
Speaker 3: he bought me like this, like fifteen VHS tapes he
Speaker 3: found at Goodwill of all old like wrestling from the
Speaker 3: late nineties, and on every one of these the guy
Speaker 3: like lovingly like wrote down every single match and the
Speaker 3: date He's like this is when Goldberg beat token for
Speaker 3: the title, and it's just like original recordings from back then.
Speaker 3: So I put it in at the party. So I
Speaker 3: had the CRT going and it's just incredible old Like
Speaker 3: one of them I thought was a Monday nightro but
Speaker 3: it was a General hospital. So for a while we're
Speaker 3: just watching episodes of General Hospital from two thousand CRT.
Speaker 2: But that's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But yeah, Carson, just above and beyond this here.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a normal gift because you've been
Speaker 2: invited to a party. That was your Christmas present. That
Speaker 2: was a handmade gift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, beer, cheese and old wrestling tapes. Carson knows me. Well, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Right into your heart.
Speaker 3: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: That's rad. Now did you end up making the that
Speaker 1: drink the batching that you drink?
Speaker 3: I didn't exactly how you told me, Mike. It's just
Speaker 3: here's the thing you text Mike Maharty about, Like it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: how do I do this? And you just assume it's
Speaker 3: going to be like an easy answer. And it's like
Speaker 3: me and Bank were in the car because we're going
Speaker 3: to the liquor store and it's just like like all
Speaker 3: these messages and it's a book of the most detailed
Speaker 3: knowledgeable information about how the lime chemicals bond with the liquor.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, hold on. I wasn't trying to be
Speaker 1: like pompous about it. I was actually trying. I was
Speaker 1: trying to like because basically Dan was trying to.
Speaker 2: We're describing you, and you assume it's pompous.
Speaker 3: That was not pet We were talking about tiki drinks.
Speaker 1: We're asking out a batch of tea drink, and I
Speaker 1: basically was like, well, the reason you shake with ice
Speaker 1: is because the water actually binds the citrus and the booze.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, well, if you make it
Speaker 1: too far in advance and it might water it down
Speaker 1: too much. So then I was like, my point being,
Speaker 1: I should have thought it through more before I texted
Speaker 1: you back.
Speaker 3: But oh no, but it was. It was awesome. It
Speaker 3: went great. It actually like, if you're worry too, you're
Speaker 3: gonna like, I've never made a big batch cocktail. We're
Speaker 3: gonna do all this shit and no one's gonna drink it.
Speaker 3: And it went quick. It was delicious.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the top notched volcano was the name of it,
Speaker 3: and yes, it's a big batch you Noah, Marichino cherry
Speaker 3: and pineapple and lime juice and rum and stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: tiggy stuff. It was great.
Speaker 1: You guys do anything else besides what'd you do for
Speaker 1: for the holidays? Do you guys stay home?
Speaker 2: Cabin?
Speaker 3: Oh? He did the cabin?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I always do.
Speaker 1: The cabin for like Christmas, and Ears.
Speaker 2: Rented a cabin for Christmas Eve Christmas Day, and that's
Speaker 2: where I started Zelda. I also made a batch cocktail.
Speaker 2: I made Alton Brown's milk punch. Have you guys heard
Speaker 2: of this?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I've heard of milk.
Speaker 2: You gotta get on Alton Brown's TikTok. This guy's crazy.
Speaker 2: I love Alton Brown. Everybody loves Alton Brown. Just this
Speaker 2: like genius molecule man who like talks about the molecular
Speaker 2: science of like what you're making and makes great you
Speaker 2: know anything, honestly, but this milk punch. You you make tea.
Speaker 2: So I had to make Earl Gray tea mix in
Speaker 2: a bunch of port and I'm gonna forget but other
Speaker 2: important ingredients and then you pour all of the liquor
Speaker 2: in milk in whole milk and sounds grosst It curdles
Speaker 2: and gets all goofy and nasty. And then you pour
Speaker 2: the goop into a coffee filter and the ship at
Speaker 2: the bottom is clarified milk punch. It's shells. No, the
Speaker 2: liquid that drips from the goo is your finished product.
Speaker 2: And the milk I don't know. I don't know the
Speaker 2: science of it. It's an askalt and brown, but the
Speaker 2: science of it. The milk helps make the liquor extremely
Speaker 2: smooth and has this like really nice refined taste to
Speaker 2: it feels like velvet in your mouth, and it's shelf stable.
Speaker 2: Even though you dumped it in a bunch of milk.
Speaker 2: You can keep it in your liquor cabinet for years
Speaker 2: and it'll be totally fine.
Speaker 3: Probably Henry, I swear to God. Just now, I thought
Speaker 3: in my head, I'm going to google this Alton Brown guy,
Speaker 3: and I was to say out loud, I was gonna
Speaker 3: be like, I bet this guy wears a bow tie.
Speaker 3: I've never heard of this man in my life. Does
Speaker 3: google them, And the first thing that popped up is
Speaker 3: the guy with the bow ties.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, yeah, he's great. He reminds me of
Speaker 2: like the MythBusters guys like he has this. He'll be like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna bake bread, but I'm going to show you
Speaker 2: the eight wrong ways to do it, and then I'll
Speaker 2: show you the science of why it's wrong, and then
Speaker 2: I'll show you them perfect bread. And everyone's like, this
Speaker 2: guy's a genius. But he's also entertaining.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: Do you follow a thirsty whale on Instagram? By any chance? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I think said I follow him.
Speaker 1: Man, he's awesome. He's uh, he's just like really entertaining.
Speaker 1: I don't know, seems like I could do. But he
Speaker 1: has a lot of cool cocktail videos. I think he's
Speaker 1: up in Portland, Maine or something, but he's probably my
Speaker 1: favorite cocktail follow on Instagram. No bow tie, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this guy Like then, this.
Speaker 2: Guy looks like he's in the Army.
Speaker 3: What No, I could see it. I could see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, huh interesting retired a retired Army cocktail mixologist. I
Speaker 1: know those guys.
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time with Kayla, my sister,
Speaker 3: over the break when I went back to Kansas, and
Speaker 3: she continues to be fascinating in ways that I could
Speaker 3: not predict. Like I sit down to play Gears of
Speaker 3: War with her, and we have played again. Yeah, well
Speaker 3: we went through all the basic games and now reloaded
Speaker 3: came out last year and we did a couple of
Speaker 3: streams of that and we're going through on insane difficulty,
Speaker 3: and so we're like, you know, I, Act four, Act five,
Speaker 3: like we're near the end. It's like, oh, okay, that'd
Speaker 3: be fun. We can do split screen at her house
Speaker 3: and we can do a stream or whatever. I loaded
Speaker 3: up and immediately I'm like, I can't hit any active
Speaker 3: reloads here. Like this feels like shit, something is deeply
Speaker 3: wrong here. And keep in mind, she is the one
Speaker 3: that like beat most of not sec Securo on a
Speaker 3: PlayStation portal with whatever lag comes with that. And so
Speaker 3: I realized that again she doesn't She did the first
Speaker 3: one that she doesn't know anything about, like TV technology
Speaker 3: or anything like that, and I'm like, whoa you. I
Speaker 3: was like, Kayla, do you have like game mode turned
Speaker 3: on or anything. She's like what's that? And I was like,
Speaker 3: oh god, And so I checked she has like an
Speaker 3: older TV and I turned game mode on and she
Speaker 3: was like, oh, this feels way better. And so it
Speaker 3: was like a second long delay on active reloads and stuff,
Speaker 3: and her whole thing is like from games and Neo
Speaker 3: and and you know, not sectary. Was it securo like
Speaker 3: the most frame perfect needed things. And she was beating
Speaker 3: all these games like on like the worst input lag
Speaker 3: I've ever fucking seen in my life.
Speaker 1: She just assumed all games take like a second to
Speaker 1: register what you're trying to do.
Speaker 3: I guarantee she just didn't think about it in her head.
Speaker 1: It's like Jimmy Hendrix with the right hand guitar.
Speaker 3: She's the Jimmy interson video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, but you can coin that, Kayla. It's
Speaker 1: yours public domain now.
Speaker 3: Just wild. Yeah, I switched it on. I was like,
Speaker 3: can you tell the difference. She's like, oh yeah, this
Speaker 3: feels way better now. She was doing like crazy speed
Speaker 3: run shit and like the hardest games ever on the
Speaker 3: hardest difficulties and it's just unreal. So yeah, that kind
Speaker 3: of blew me away.
Speaker 2: She's probably getting adjusted to the time difference. Ultimately, if
Speaker 2: you're playing the same game again and again and again,
Speaker 2: you're getting adjusted to how long it takes for you
Speaker 2: to do your strike. So maybe she was just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: everything I do takes a half second. For it to
Speaker 2: impact and just got really adjusted to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like from games already have a bit of that
Speaker 1: delay because like it's supposed to like you're committing to
Speaker 1: the attack, which makes it even funnier that she was
Speaker 1: beating Securo.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I go to my dad's place and
Speaker 3: he's put like four hundred hours into Breath the Wild.
Speaker 3: He plays it like daily since I got it for
Speaker 3: him years when you're well, he loves it and like
Speaker 3: the way he talks about it is really awesome too,
Speaker 3: because it said it reminds him of like he was
Speaker 3: a kid and you would just go out in the
Speaker 3: woods and explore and things, and it's like, wow, that's
Speaker 3: the coolest you could say about a game, is like
Speaker 3: that gave you that feeling and then nothing else has
Speaker 3: made you feel that way since you were a kid.
Speaker 3: But it's it's so interesting because he is just a
Speaker 3: stubborn older man who doesn't play a lot of video games,
Speaker 3: so he's like refuses to learn lock on, like locking
Speaker 3: onto an enemy. So like he does, he's unlocked the
Speaker 3: entire map. He's literally spent like four hundred plus hours
Speaker 3: playing this game. But like whenever he goes to a shrine.
Speaker 3: That's one of the major test of skill or strength
Speaker 3: or minor test of strength where you just had to
Speaker 3: fight one of those guardian things. He just won't do
Speaker 3: it because like he won't lock onto anything, so like
Speaker 3: combat stuff he can't really do in that game. He
Speaker 3: hasn't done a single Divine Beast, So you know, every
Speaker 3: year I go back, I'm like, Dad, just go here,
Speaker 3: you'll get the single Lets you jump over the like
Speaker 3: this rivalis gale thing. It'll help you a ton, And
Speaker 3: he refuses to because he has to talk to NPCs
Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't want to talk to people,
Speaker 3: so he just explores. I think he barely touches the
Speaker 3: camera and he's got every tower, He's done a million TrEPS.
Speaker 3: I actually did get him to get the Master Sword.
Speaker 3: He was being kind of stuffing about that I don't
Speaker 3: need that. I'm fine, I'm fine. I was like that
Speaker 3: it's a sword that never breaks, you're gonna win. So
Speaker 3: I did. Actually like he had enough hearts and everything,
Speaker 3: so I got him the Master Sword. But he gets
Speaker 3: so pissed off every time he sees a korok. He
Speaker 3: thinks the idiots they are climb up a whole mountain,
Speaker 3: and I have to do a thing and find.
Speaker 2: A thing, don't.
Speaker 1: He just gets so mad every time he sees a korrock.
Speaker 1: What does he think about weapon degradation?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it bothers him.
Speaker 1: Like, what does he think about difficulty in video games?
Speaker 3: I don't think he thinks about it. He's uh, yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Think about Israel. No, I'm sure fall on the subject.
Speaker 1: That's more than I played Breath of the Wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I mean, it's my maybe favorite game
Speaker 3: of all time. But it's like it is kind of cool,
Speaker 3: Like it's frustrating that. It's like, Dad, you could be
Speaker 3: making this so much easier for yourself.
Speaker 2: Like he's already unlocked all the towers if you're not
Speaker 2: gonna anything.
Speaker 3: He does shrines, but like he's also like he doesn't
Speaker 3: listen when anyone tells him anything ever, So it's like,
Speaker 3: literally every time I go back home, I'm like, all right, Dad,
Speaker 3: you can warp to any of these shrines, even if
Speaker 3: you haven't finished it. If it's yellow in the middle,
Speaker 3: you can warp there.
Speaker 2: So he's talking every she walks everywhere.
Speaker 3: He doesn't use the camera. He wouldn't learn about the
Speaker 3: fairy stuff.
Speaker 1: It's the camera. Wouldn't you only be able to walk
Speaker 1: in one direction?
Speaker 3: And he started to do it, But the thing is
Speaker 3: he won't do it at the same time he's running,
Speaker 3: so he'll like stop, he'll rotate and then kind of
Speaker 3: like run another one. So like, objectively, he's playing it
Speaker 3: wrong in a lot of ways, but like he fucking
Speaker 3: loves it.
Speaker 2: So it's like your entire family is just playing on
Speaker 2: boomer mode.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's weird that I'm the one that understands
Speaker 3: the tech stuff more in games. Well, I guess that
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 2: It's your fucking job where if you did it, your
Speaker 2: your whole bloodline should end.
Speaker 3: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said something like that a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I felt like a like a
Speaker 1: like a lot.
Speaker 2: It's all, but you have to, like someone has to
Speaker 2: pay attention to these things, and it's you. I don't
Speaker 2: expect your dad to. I don't I like completely understand
Speaker 2: that your dad would not do that. I have my
Speaker 2: My mom would play uh Gears with me sometimes and
Speaker 2: I would try to explain in the idea that you
Speaker 2: have to look with one toggle and move with the other.
Speaker 2: Could not could not process that. Yeah, can she throw
Speaker 2: a grenade?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Can she shoot? Yes? Not very well, but blake she
Speaker 2: and she understands the basics. And I think ultimately, if
Speaker 2: you have a good time, like if he's having good
Speaker 2: time getting diamonds or whatever it is that he wants
Speaker 2: to do in that game, spending all of his time
Speaker 2: running voluntarily running, maybe he's doing the building thing with
Speaker 2: that guy who's like, help me lift this sign. Maybe
Speaker 2: he's helping that guy out.
Speaker 1: He would hate the ultra hand stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh he would. That's why I didn't even get him
Speaker 3: that is because it's like it'd be too finniky for him.
Speaker 3: He didn't know there was a many He's played four
Speaker 3: hundred hours in this game. He just saw the mini
Speaker 3: map for the first time a few days ago because
Speaker 3: I told him, like, hey, Dad, go here on the
Speaker 3: many matters. What are you talking about, MANI map? It's
Speaker 3: like down there's like what's that? And it's like that's
Speaker 3: like he's never set a stamp. I kept trying to
Speaker 3: show him how to do the stamps, and like he
Speaker 3: refuses to go to the adventure log, so it's like
Speaker 3: he'll be like, I don't know what to do now
Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen the whole map and I
Speaker 3: was just like, Dad, look at this adventure log thing.
Speaker 3: These are all quests that if you hit a on it,
Speaker 3: it will put a blinking yellow dot on your map.
Speaker 3: And he just refuses to engage with that system any
Speaker 3: kind of map stuff.
Speaker 1: Imagine. Okay, So that would be funny then, because correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. In breath the while, you would
Speaker 1: see the yellow quest marker on the edge of the
Speaker 1: mini map, yeah, assuming you're not close to it. So
Speaker 1: that'd be funny for him because he would just see
Speaker 1: the yellow dot and walk toward it, not knowing how
Speaker 1: long it's going to take him. So it might be
Speaker 1: on the other side of.
Speaker 3: The mom but he won't even do that. He doesn't
Speaker 3: He ignores and dot.
Speaker 1: It would just be funny to see, like, yeah, he
Speaker 1: just sets off toward the yellow dot which is on
Speaker 1: the edge of the mini map, not knowing whether it's
Speaker 1: on the other side of the map or near him.
Speaker 3: I've tried. I've tried for many many years now, and
Speaker 3: it's just like, well, that's just not going to stick.
Speaker 3: He's gonna play it the way he wants to. But
Speaker 3: he enjoys it, so whatever we.
Speaker 1: Talked about that with it. That was an email question
Speaker 1: I don't know, five six episodes ago and someone's like,
Speaker 1: what's like a game you didn't realize you were playing incorrectly?
Speaker 1: And I think Kayla, it was her not having game
Speaker 1: mode on your deck. That is just wilfully ignoring super
Speaker 1: helpful and interesting things in Breath.
Speaker 3: Of the wif Yeah, it's like I don't like going
Speaker 3: to a place and talking to a bunch of fish people,
Speaker 3: but like it's gonna get me to a thing. That's like,
Speaker 3: it's gonna give me a helpful thing and progress the game.
Speaker 3: And it's like, he does not give me somebody to
Speaker 3: talk to a fish man. He's out, yeah some of
Speaker 3: that stuff like morphs hyral.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna talk to any fish man.
Speaker 3: You know. When I started getting frustrated with him and
Speaker 3: telling him, like, Dad, I tell you this every year.
Speaker 3: It would make you so much, he was like, Dan,
Speaker 3: how many people my age? How many of your friend's
Speaker 3: dad do you think? Are I've ever like played Breath
Speaker 3: the Wild at all or would even like give it
Speaker 3: a shot?
Speaker 2: Or was like a lot of parents play Breath of
Speaker 2: the Wild.
Speaker 3: Sure, but I mean, you know, he's like, there's not
Speaker 3: a ton of guys his it, like in their sixties
Speaker 3: playing it or whatever, Like I can't think most of
Speaker 3: my friend's parents are playing, you know. And then I
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I guess I gotta give you
Speaker 3: a little credit there. And you are enjoying it and
Speaker 3: playing it, but it's like, man, you could make it
Speaker 3: so much easier for yourself.
Speaker 2: He's like adventurous and yet ridiculously stubborn. Yeah, he's somewhere
Speaker 2: in between where he's like, look at me branching out
Speaker 2: into youth stuff. I'm not opening up the fucking map.
Speaker 2: I'm walking four hours to pick up this apple like that.
Speaker 1: What Emoto made the first game about was like exploring
Speaker 1: the woods around his house near Kyoto and the yeah
Speaker 1: splunking and whatnot in the first one.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the stubborn stuff, the new dumb argument he
Speaker 3: has that he's dug his heels in all the way
Speaker 3: on is that he's like, I just don't get why
Speaker 3: there's all these voice actors and people will talk about
Speaker 3: them like they're actors, like they're acting, and what are
Speaker 3: you talking about? And he's like, yeah, they're not. They're
Speaker 3: talking it's not acting. It's like, well, no, you've probably
Speaker 3: heard the one where you were saying that Broadway performers
Speaker 3: aren't actors, they're performers, and so in his head it's
Speaker 3: like he says, you have to have a camera on
Speaker 3: you and you have to be pretending to be someone
Speaker 3: else to be acting, otherwise you're performing. Broadway people they're
Speaker 3: they're very talented, verier, but they're not actors voice actors.
Speaker 3: They're just talking, that's not They're just reading words off
Speaker 3: a script. And I was like, what douck inflection and
Speaker 3: notion and he just dug his heels in all the way.
Speaker 3: Like at family Christmas, I brought that and everybody in
Speaker 3: the family was like, Paul, you're being completely insane. He's like,
Speaker 3: it's just talking. It's just talking.
Speaker 1: I feel like like in many ways voice acting would
Speaker 1: be harder because you don't have visual aid. You have
Speaker 1: to convey everything through your voice. Right.
Speaker 2: You can't use your eyes. All you have.
Speaker 1: Is or your tears.
Speaker 2: You can't use any of the face. Name another one.
Speaker 2: You can't use your smile of your case.
Speaker 1: Actually today is kind of appropriate.
Speaker 3: Here's another one of those trips home, you know, and
Speaker 3: everything that comes with it.
Speaker 1: We stayed. We told both our sides of the family
Speaker 1: earlier this year that we were just going to stay
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving and Christmas and enjoy. Ever since we got
Speaker 1: married or since we moved in here, we've been busy
Speaker 1: on the holidays. We're like, oh, we're going to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: And then Amanda got sick on the twenty third, so
Speaker 1: I mean, we're already going to be home, but then
Speaker 1: we were home way more than we planned. But I
Speaker 1: mean she she felt better recently before New Year's but like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, good thing we didn't travel anywhere because
Speaker 1: she was like violently I would say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, was it food poisoning?
Speaker 1: Doesn't No, sorry I shouldn't say violently. She was just
Speaker 1: like laid out on the couch for like like two
Speaker 1: like flu wise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just sounds like really yeah bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anytime it's violent, I'm like, you're pukin.
Speaker 1: Oh no, sorry, not violent like that, Like I just
Speaker 1: mean like it knocked her on her ass for a couple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was done. So that sucks. It sucks for
Speaker 2: that to happen over your break too, because you work
Speaker 2: so hard for it, right, Like Christmas break is so coveted.
Speaker 2: We were talking about this a little bit earlier, but
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of people are on the edge
Speaker 2: of burnout as they get into Christmas break. You really
Speaker 2: deserve that time, but for so many people because you're
Speaker 2: working so hard. As soon as you're on your break,
Speaker 2: it's almost like your body's like, am I allowed to
Speaker 2: finally be sick?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or when you're traveling and then you get sick
Speaker 1: right when you get home. That happens to me pretty often,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, oh, you're in a safe spot
Speaker 1: and you can be sick now. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the actual physiology is behind it, but it's always bodies
Speaker 1: are crazy.
Speaker 2: I I my body knows when I can't poop my body.
Speaker 2: If like I'm on a hike, yeah, never.
Speaker 1: Get after you.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, sometimes people will be like we'll be
Speaker 2: at brunch or something. You'll be like, I gotta go,
Speaker 2: and it's just like that happens to so many people,
Speaker 2: not me. I my body won't allow me until I'm home,
Speaker 2: safe and sound. Then it'll be like it's time.
Speaker 1: House.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean at some point I have to. But
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is is like if I ever let's say,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like I do, like an
Speaker 2: all day excursion somewhere. My body will just be like, Nope,
Speaker 2: you don't need to go. And then when I get
Speaker 2: home to the hotel and I'm alone, my body will
Speaker 2: be like it's time, but like it just knows not
Speaker 2: to do it in an unsafe out you know, outdoor experiences.
Speaker 1: No, No, I probably know, I definite shouldn't. It was
Speaker 1: on the same flight three times Minneapolis to our foot.
Speaker 3: No, Jill, you're in the cockpit.
Speaker 2: Someone's been in the mile.
Speaker 1: Fucking I'm the captain of that club. Baby.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've.
Speaker 1: Told you this. There's a there's a restaurant here you
Speaker 1: guys might have been to. It's called Anthony David's in
Speaker 1: my in Hoboken. But there's two bathrooms. One's really cool
Speaker 1: because the door looks like part of the wall, so
Speaker 1: we call it the secret bathroom. There's another one in
Speaker 1: the back, which is bigger. However, that bathroom kind of
Speaker 1: opens up. If you were to leave that bathroom, you're
Speaker 1: right amongst the tables basically. So uh, I always try
Speaker 1: not to go there because if I have to poop there,
Speaker 1: then it's gonna be pretty obvious that I pooped when
Speaker 1: I leave and there's people eating right near it.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's awful. So my body would be like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You can't. I had one of those terrible things where
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, I went into the bathroom and
Speaker 1: it already smelled, so the previous person like wrecked it.
Speaker 1: So I was hoping that no one was waiting when
Speaker 1: I came out, because then they would think it was me.
Speaker 1: So I opened the door and this was like New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve several years ago, and I and I had
Speaker 1: had a few drinks, so that definitely uh kind of
Speaker 1: added to this. And I opened the door and there
Speaker 1: was a woman standing there and I just like said her.
Speaker 1: I was like, that was the guy before me. They
Speaker 1: went back to the table. That's a weird thing to say.
Speaker 1: I should have just acknowledged. I should have just let it,
Speaker 1: let it go.
Speaker 2: You should have let That's funny though, because like, either
Speaker 2: you know, depending on how truthful you look, she's either
Speaker 2: like wow, well you know that was awkward, where she
Speaker 2: was like that son of a bitch just shiit and
Speaker 2: lied to my face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was I realized after I was like,
Speaker 1: it was kind of a lose lose to say anything,
Speaker 1: but I still did not want her to think that
Speaker 1: I pooped in the bathroom because I didn't.
Speaker 3: That time.
Speaker 1: That annoyed me. I didn't. Yeah, there's none other times
Speaker 1: I was be careful in there and then but yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I just got back to the table and
Speaker 1: I didn't see her the rest of the night. So
Speaker 1: that worked out.
Speaker 2: One time at a party, I was in a group
Speaker 2: of like five people work party. There's like work people,
Speaker 2: and someone farts and without hesitating, no, you could smell it, okay,
Speaker 2: and without hesitation. One of my coworkers was like, Mary,
Speaker 2: was that you? And I was like, first of all,
Speaker 2: I'm a victim. I am a victim like everybody else
Speaker 2: in this group. How dare you accuse me? And the
Speaker 2: more I defended myself, the more guilty I.
Speaker 1: Look, weird.
Speaker 3: Lines coming off.
Speaker 2: And try to tell them listen, you guys, I can't
Speaker 2: even poop in public places. My body won't allow it.
Speaker 2: There's no fucking way. I'm just like, I look guiltier
Speaker 2: the more I'm defending this. I can't believe I got
Speaker 2: like accused. It was a mess, and I think to
Speaker 2: this day, everyone's like, she did it. He's still out there,
Speaker 2: is all we know. A god damn bird.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's fucking he's on in the wind. One
Speaker 1: other story that reminds me of that you were talking
Speaker 1: about how like your body knows when you can't poop.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know how when you have to pee,
Speaker 1: the closer you get to the toilet, like the more
Speaker 1: you have to because again your body is like nose,
Speaker 1: you're about to really sell.
Speaker 3: Like also with poop. I feel that more. Oh really?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I can feel like if I'm in
Speaker 3: my eyes detect a toilet, it could be like a
Speaker 3: you could print out a picture of toilet, show my
Speaker 3: brain and it would just start percolating like crazy.
Speaker 1: Detective toilet and just say, if I see a toilet,
Speaker 1: dam it's a weird way to.
Speaker 3: You can draw a toilet into a toilet. I just
Speaker 3: ship my pants all right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, one time, my buddy and I were driving back
Speaker 1: from a friend's house to his house, and he had
Speaker 1: to pee the whole drive, like half an hour back home,
Speaker 1: and the closer we got to the house, he had
Speaker 1: to pee more and more. And it was the middle
Speaker 1: of winter. In Syracuse, New York. So he like fucking
Speaker 1: koreems into his driveway, slams the brakes, puts the car
Speaker 1: in park, gets out of the car, immediately slips on
Speaker 1: some black ice, and pisses himself on the drive.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: He's completely fine. Now, It's why I can laugh about it. Also,
Speaker 1: you guys have met him. I'm gonna say his name,
Speaker 1: but it was the I have never he pissed himself.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like as like Alex Navarro.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's my hometown friend. I felt so bad.
Speaker 1: But then when I saw these fine like later that day,
Speaker 1: I like just started laughing uncontrollably because he was completely fine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he piss himself in the middle of winter.
Speaker 2: It was I mean, your body must be so confused.
Speaker 2: If you have to go that badly and you have
Speaker 2: like a violent act occur to you. I would also
Speaker 2: just be like, whatever, you know, I got bigger fish
Speaker 2: to fry. I might have a concussion. You're I'm pissing.
Speaker 2: I can understand my body wanting. They were like essentially
Speaker 2: letting one go.
Speaker 1: And also once you start pissing yourself, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's tough, like it it would hurt. Stop you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 3: How much more damage can be done? You already got
Speaker 3: to change it.
Speaker 2: I only feed myself a little afterward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't know that for.
Speaker 2: He salted the driveway with his urine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have any transition for this. But we
Speaker 1: watched the entire True Detective season one today. We were
Speaker 1: talking about last night, and we went out for dinner
Speaker 1: last night, like a long dinner, and we were talking
Speaker 1: about True Detective night Country. We had not watched it,
Speaker 1: so we're like, oh, we should watch season one, And
Speaker 1: we watched the entirety of it today. That's how we
Speaker 1: spent New Year's Day. Oh yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Still. I remember thinking it was like a perfect season
Speaker 3: of television, and then a lot of very not perfect
Speaker 3: seasons of television.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've tried really hard with season two several times,
Speaker 1: and then like the Cardinals and that one commits is
Speaker 1: just it's boring as fuck. Like it's also messy and
Speaker 1: inconsistent and the characters don't make sense, but like it's
Speaker 1: also just boring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the worst one by far. Three is serviceable
Speaker 3: for three? Is right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And if you're just about to start four. I won't
Speaker 3: say my thoughts on him, but yeah.
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch it regardless. But did you like it?
Speaker 3: Very strong setup and super does not stick the landing
Speaker 3: at all?
Speaker 1: Gotcha?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Interesting is that the last one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Great performances.
Speaker 2: We've discussed this before. I liked it, Mike, some people
Speaker 2: and I disagree on it.
Speaker 1: We have talked about it. Yes, we're gonna watch it.
Speaker 1: I don't even I've still never seen three. The Marshall
Speaker 1: Ali one.
Speaker 3: It's fine, It's fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, but uh but yeah we watched that. I think
Speaker 1: we have one more episode of Pluribus or are they
Speaker 1: all out yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We're all out? Yeah.
Speaker 1: How divisive that show was?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should check out the Rotten Tomatoes, dude, because
Speaker 2: the critic is like ninety eight and the and the People,
Speaker 2: the Regular People is like forty something. It's nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like everybody I've talked to you either
Speaker 1: thinks it is a masterpiece of like TV writing. Other
Speaker 1: people are like, it's so fucking slow and dumb.
Speaker 3: Oh. I like it, but that's the argument. And I
Speaker 3: will not say any spoilers here at all. It reminds
Speaker 3: me of the first season Better Called Saul, where it's
Speaker 3: like it is slow. It is a slow burn for sure,
Speaker 3: but it is setting stuff up, and like I am very,
Speaker 3: very invested in seeing the season two of this, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, just like philosophically, it's hilarious once you're
Speaker 1: like really interesting, once you see like the implications of
Speaker 1: that premise, how you see how different survivors are dealing
Speaker 1: with it, it's really good. Also, fuck, Ria Seahorn's amazing.
Speaker 1: There's there's parts in that show where I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't fucking hate her character, and like they could do
Speaker 1: a good job of making her like you kind of
Speaker 1: loathe her at certain points, but Ria Seahorns amazing, Like
Speaker 1: she's very good. I'm so glad she got like the
Speaker 1: starring role because she was amazing in Better Call Saul,
Speaker 1: and that's the only thing I've seen her in. I think, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that show's good. I think we're are they all out
Speaker 1: now the episodes?
Speaker 3: I think we're a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think we're like two behind something like Okay, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: I really like that whole season a lot.
Speaker 2: I liked it too, and I think it's really reflective
Speaker 2: of the creator. One of the most coveted episodes of
Speaker 2: Breaking Bad critically was the fly episode, where it's some
Speaker 2: people are comparing this to that, which is like, these
Speaker 2: are long drawn out situations that help you to really
Speaker 2: understand a character, so that when shit really does start moving,
Speaker 2: you'll really fundamentally understand why the characters are doing what
Speaker 2: they're doing. She is very unlikable in the final episode,
Speaker 2: and I will not I will not spoil it, but
Speaker 2: I completely understand why some of the season is unliked
Speaker 2: because I think she's very unlikable, but she does a
Speaker 2: tremendous job and I do empathize with her. I spent
Speaker 2: like the whole next two days talking about what I
Speaker 2: would do if I got pluribist, And I actually really
Speaker 2: would like to ask you guys, what you would do
Speaker 2: if you got pluribist? If you had everybody else in
Speaker 2: the world is warped, right, They're all one of them.
Speaker 2: But you have agency, and you have all this power.
Speaker 2: You know, if you want money, if you want art,
Speaker 2: if you wanna see the bottom of the ocean, they're
Speaker 2: gonna help you do that. Like, what would you are.
Speaker 3: Removing good time from all the grief and awful stuff.
Speaker 3: If like our friends and family and loved ones all
Speaker 3: got joined, you know, if it was just purely.
Speaker 2: Yo, I can't separate the two. I will have to
Speaker 2: say that your family is all them. I will remove
Speaker 2: no one died in front of you. How about that?
Speaker 3: Okay? I mean I still think like that's the thing.
Speaker 3: If like my friends and family and loved ones were
Speaker 3: all joined, I think I would be fixating very much
Speaker 3: on like somehow getting them back to humanity, you.
Speaker 2: Know, all time and no point would you be like,
Speaker 2: I'm also gonna become a wrestling star and I get
Speaker 2: to fight.
Speaker 3: Have you seen blank check?
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen blank How dare you shake your head?
Speaker 3: Mike, he's too young?
Speaker 2: Crazy?
Speaker 1: Is that the when the kid gets a blank check?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Thanks, I'm not the Christmas wish. I've seen blank check.
Speaker 3: No, it's just some other. When I saw blank check
Speaker 3: as a child, it was like, well, that's the template
Speaker 3: of like, that's the dream. That's the best thing. That
Speaker 3: you'd have a.
Speaker 2: Big party, you'd buy a mansion and fill it with ship.
Speaker 3: You have a slide that comes out of your window.
Speaker 3: You got a go Kurt thing, you got a boxing
Speaker 3: ring with the big inflatable boxing gloves.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that none of your ambitions have changed
Speaker 2: since you were seven?
Speaker 3: I think that's fairs is.
Speaker 1: The realizing in real as He says, Well.
Speaker 2: I've been plurvist. I'm really upset about my family and friends.
Speaker 2: But check out this sixth slide from my top phone.
Speaker 3: From my degree. I would be like if I have
Speaker 3: like two goals my entire life, It's like I got
Speaker 3: to figure out how to get paid to play video games,
Speaker 3: and I need to blank check myself. And I think
Speaker 3: if I got pluribist, I could that that's two for two. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it'd be very easy to blank check. Like that's better
Speaker 3: than blank check. Money doesn't even matter anymore.
Speaker 2: Number that you could check off your list, like think
Speaker 2: Like for me, I'd be like, listen, if I'm stuck
Speaker 2: in this situation, take me to all the craziest locations
Speaker 2: that are very difficult to travel to. Yes, cater to
Speaker 2: my every whim so that I'm safe, But I want
Speaker 2: to see like the depths of the jungle. I want
Speaker 2: to see like the craziest areas of Yeah, I want
Speaker 2: to see the taj Mahal. I want to see all
Speaker 2: these like show them all to me quickly and efficiently
Speaker 2: and safely so that I can like experience the entire world.
Speaker 2: It's so cool like that you could do that. I
Speaker 2: want a movie that I get to direct, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna write it, and you guys have to make it good,
Speaker 2: and I want all the best writers working on it
Speaker 2: so that it's really awesome, and then I want you
Speaker 2: guys to like make it and then I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 3: Like everyone around you would be like Dinney Villanu and
Speaker 3: like the best cinematographers and the best writs are like
Speaker 3: you would always have to the greatest minds in everything,
Speaker 3: And I make cars.
Speaker 1: If they're that happy, like I feel like they lose
Speaker 1: their edge.
Speaker 2: Still, they are soft because they're all merged, right, So
Speaker 2: it's like who's arguing with each other? There's something to
Speaker 2: be said about that. Also, you're basically the law of
Speaker 2: the land, so no one's arguing with you. So you're wrong, right,
Speaker 2: Like let's say you're you write it and you write
Speaker 2: a piece of shit. No one's gonna be like this
Speaker 2: is bad. They're all gonna make your piece of shit garbage.
Speaker 3: And there's the best they can't get that matters.
Speaker 1: Discussions would be boring. Yeah, I would suck one of
Speaker 1: the if everybody was joined except one person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I don't want this to happen to be fair,
Speaker 3: but I would make most.
Speaker 1: You guys do want is to happen.
Speaker 2: Sounds like I love the idea of like us doing
Speaker 2: Game of the Year. We really like sectory.
Speaker 1: But the fuck, I'm just gonna say the name of
Speaker 1: the episode. I'm not gonna say what it's about. The
Speaker 1: Gap episode. Holy fuck, it's it's it's called the Gap.
Speaker 1: It's Mary. You just mentioned the jungle. That's what.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that one was really stressful.
Speaker 1: That reminded me of Do you guys ever watch The Leftovers? No,
Speaker 1: there's an episode similar. It's kind of like a Bottle
Speaker 1: episode where one character, Pastor Matt, Father Matt, Pastor Matt
Speaker 1: is trying to get back into this like post apocalyptic
Speaker 1: town and he just cannot get in. And it sounds
Speaker 1: like a very boring premise, but it's an incredible episode
Speaker 1: of TV. And then two other things quick. I finally
Speaker 1: watched One Battle after Another.
Speaker 3: That movie is awesome.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. It's streaming now.
Speaker 3: HBO.
Speaker 1: I think. Secondly, we watched Wake Up, Dead Man, The
Speaker 1: Knives Out the New I'm curious to watch. We watched it.
Speaker 1: We have watched it twice since it went that much. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: we watched it once. We're like, holy shit, that was amazing.
Speaker 1: And then was it Christmas?
Speaker 2: What's your favorite?
Speaker 4: Order?
Speaker 2: There's three.
Speaker 1: We watched all three. We watched one and two again
Speaker 1: and then watch a third one.
Speaker 2: Nobody likes to to anytime there's involved him out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm one three in real life movies.
Speaker 2: I don't want to know about him.
Speaker 1: You might want to beat that Jake that spoiled the movie.
Speaker 3: Well, I forgot about.
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, I don't like stupid. Okay, here's my
Speaker 1: theory about right, here's my Here's okay. I think Ryan
Speaker 1: Johnson clearly is capable of making good movies. I also
Speaker 1: think if you look at his entire film catalog, it's
Speaker 1: just him trying to not get canceled every movie he makes.
Speaker 1: It's just very very like, it seems very aware. This
Speaker 1: is I mean, I'm joking mainly, but like it's just
Speaker 1: funny because like the last Jedi Glass Onion is very
Speaker 1: on the nose with some of It's like it feels
Speaker 1: like someone was cruising like Subreddit and saw the things
Speaker 1: that could get someone like canceled and just say you
Speaker 1: think he's too woke, Yeah, he's too Last Jedi fucking
Speaker 1: sucked joking. I like Last Jedi, Loton.
Speaker 2: Last Jedi. Okay, So I like one the most. I
Speaker 2: think three is good, and I did not like two
Speaker 2: at all. I think three is good. I had a
Speaker 2: couple issues in my opinion. I don't think it's as
Speaker 2: good as one. I think one is god damn perfect.
Speaker 2: I think it's phenomenal. But three, Dan I think he
Speaker 2: would like three. It's like a really cool premis.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about it. I don't even think
Speaker 3: I really know the cast. I think I watched the trailer.
Speaker 1: Josh Brolin, Josh, did you see Challengers Luga Guanino's tennis movie.
Speaker 3: Josh, I will see it probably in the next, like
Speaker 3: month or two.
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. It's small town central New York.
Speaker 1: It's shot in Essex in the UK.
Speaker 2: But it's not like a good murder plot too, of like,
Speaker 2: how did they do it? It seems impossible.
Speaker 1: The characters are also talking about like religion and belief
Speaker 1: and faith in a way that is not like up
Speaker 1: its own ass. Like it's actually like Ben wi Blanc
Speaker 1: and obviously he's back. But Josh Berlin, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Josh Berlin's character was making me laugh so hard. I
Speaker 1: texted Dan just to see if he had seen it,
Speaker 1: because I feel like there's a scene where when Josh
Speaker 1: Berlin does confession Mary. This first one a little, but
Speaker 1: like as he keeps talking, it just gets funnier and funnier.
Speaker 2: Those are good scenes. Yeah, it's I think you'd like it, Dan,
Speaker 2: I recommend the third one. I think two was so
Speaker 2: off putting. A lot of people are like that series
Speaker 2: is dead to me. But the third one is I
Speaker 2: think worth watching and is quite entertaining. Yeah, one is
Speaker 2: still the best.
Speaker 3: That'll be short list for us. We uh, we just
Speaker 3: did a two fer of the Sandler drama movies. We
Speaker 3: watched Uncut Gems and Punch Drunk Love. Nice and I
Speaker 3: had seen both of them before, but it's interesting. It's
Speaker 3: like Punch Drunk Love I still think is really really good.
Speaker 3: There's not as much there as something like an uncut
Speaker 3: Gym's it's like and also Sammer's character Sack.
Speaker 2: It's so dewey. It's the most dewey film.
Speaker 3: Why I don't understand, Like I hear people all the
Speaker 3: time say Uncut Gyms like, oh, it gives me anxiety
Speaker 3: to watch it. It's like I'm like, mister anxiety. In
Speaker 3: every fucking second of Uncut Gyms, I'm just like, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: more of this, don't keep going.
Speaker 2: Well, have you heard of Marty Supreme, because that's the
Speaker 2: same guy.
Speaker 3: It's the Saffie Brothers or just one of them, just
Speaker 3: one of them, Josh said, the one. This one did
Speaker 3: because I saw.
Speaker 2: Marty Supreme over the week and uh oh it's the
Speaker 2: same baby. It's like the whole Yeah, it's like the
Speaker 2: whole time. I'm like, there's I think like halfway through
Speaker 2: the film, I was like my heart was like starting
Speaker 2: to explode out of my chest because it has something
Speaker 2: Uncut Gems doesn't. So Uncut Gems. You're watching basketball and
Speaker 2: you're stressed because there's heavy betting going on, and you
Speaker 2: know that if he doesn't, you know, if the basketball
Speaker 2: doesn't do good, he's probably gonna get like his knee
Speaker 2: caps broken or something. In Marty's Supreme, he's ping ponging
Speaker 2: and so the whole time. There's also stressful stuff going
Speaker 2: on in his life, which is like also very exciting
Speaker 2: and exhilarating, but just the sports alone, he's fucking putting
Speaker 2: everything on these games. He's putting his whole like life
Speaker 2: on the line for these games, and he's he's like
Speaker 2: a bit of a schmoozer and a gambler, and he's
Speaker 2: like doing all these terrible things, and every time he pingpongs,
Speaker 2: You're like, God, I hope he can hit the ball right.
Speaker 2: And it's going so fast. It's a really stressful film,
Speaker 2: and I mean that in the best way. I think
Speaker 2: it's fantastic. I really do so stressful. I don't think
Speaker 2: I blinked. I was so when the movie was over,
Speaker 2: I felt like I could finally breathe.
Speaker 3: Okay, I I had no idea it had that same.
Speaker 3: In fact, I think I just recently learned it was
Speaker 3: one of the saftews that made it so like I
Speaker 3: didn't really know anything about it. Maybe all Uncut Gems.
Speaker 2: Walk so Marty Supreme could run it is. It is
Speaker 2: very intense, and you can almost feel the lessons that
Speaker 2: they learned from Uncut Gems in it. Like it's interesting
Speaker 2: how it, I think is better. I think it has
Speaker 2: a really really strong acting is fantastic. But I think
Speaker 2: it's got really good characters in it, except for unfortunately
Speaker 2: all of the women. That's really dude, those directors. Every
Speaker 2: time there's a woman in any of those movies, they're like,
Speaker 2: I want to sleep with you or I'm a terrible,
Speaker 2: terrible person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of them.
Speaker 2: Passed the basche time.
Speaker 1: While I'm opining about what directors. I don't think either
Speaker 1: of the Safti brothers has had sex before. They make
Speaker 1: incredible movies, but there.
Speaker 3: They will after Mario Galaxy movie comes out, because he's
Speaker 3: Bowser Junior and.
Speaker 1: Is Benny Safty Bowser Junior.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Really, Yeah, it was a whole thing because like
Speaker 3: the tray, we did a watch over the trailer and
Speaker 3: uh Minati had never heard of the Safti brothers and
Speaker 3: how do you Yeah, I don't know, I tes to.
Speaker 1: Do you guys? See good Time?
Speaker 3: Yes, that was there.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if it was their first movie,
Speaker 1: but it was earlier.
Speaker 3: Robert Pattinson one, Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 1: Also, the same thing. They're just making movies about someone
Speaker 1: who's in a crazy situation that can only.
Speaker 2: Be crazy stressful.
Speaker 3: But he's like, yeah, I kind of feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: like with horror. I wonder if this analogy is going
Speaker 3: to work. You know, like horror movies don't like you know,
Speaker 3: some people like if you're playing a horror game, it's
Speaker 3: way scarier to you than a horror movie. Is horror movie,
Speaker 3: you can be passive, you can cover your eyes, but
Speaker 3: in a resideval game, mister X burst through the door.
Speaker 3: You've got to deal with it. You got to get
Speaker 3: out of there, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's like these movies like Uncut Jim, don't
Speaker 3: make me anxious because it's like, this isn't something that's
Speaker 3: happening to me. I Am watching this happen on the screen,
Speaker 3: and like, I know, there's no threat here. It's just
Speaker 3: like your associapathe.
Speaker 1: You don't have any empathy. Is that no, I'm joking.
Speaker 1: When you said that out loud, it's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: you're fine because you don't have empathy. End.
Speaker 2: I wonder there's a there's a scene I will like
Speaker 2: to ask you this question next time after you've seen
Speaker 2: Marty Supreme. There is a scene and I will not
Speaker 2: I will not discuss it at all about you. But
Speaker 2: when you see the movie, I will say, was there
Speaker 2: a scene in which you got severely anxious? And I'd
Speaker 2: like to know. I'll feel any is an iconic scene
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 3: I don't think any scene in any piece of fiction
Speaker 3: ever has made me anxious.
Speaker 1: Were you comfortable during the firecracker, drug scene and Buggie Knights?
Speaker 3: I thought it was awesome? That is so yeah, because
Speaker 3: not real.
Speaker 2: So it's like this neither is mister x.
Speaker 1: Nothing, But.
Speaker 3: Like I do feel it with like a resnel or something.
Speaker 3: It's like I have to fucking I have much ammo.
Speaker 3: I need to get the fuck out of here. I
Speaker 3: don't have any You have.
Speaker 2: Agencies it because like you are deciding what happens to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where It's like if it's a movie or something,
Speaker 3: you're always saved.
Speaker 1: I guess this doesn't I guess you said you've never
Speaker 1: like cried at a movie before?
Speaker 3: Right? There was a one time in Creed three, but
Speaker 3: I think it was because I reb buffalo sauce in
Speaker 3: my eyes and I was high.
Speaker 1: Probably the last there was.
Speaker 3: I thought there was one thing where I almost cried
Speaker 3: or teared up in a movie that we recently csily
Speaker 3: not fiction movies, like, yeah, not fiction, just a sound stage.
Speaker 3: It didn't happen.
Speaker 2: Oh God, Save the Private Ryan. You didn't cry.
Speaker 3: No, that movie is one of my favorite movies of
Speaker 3: all time. I've seen it numerous times. I haven't cried.
Speaker 3: I mean that didn't happen. The war happened.
Speaker 1: It did.
Speaker 3: But like shooting at the tank at the end of
Speaker 3: Orphan an old Man didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Old Holocaust and I are Dan speaking of anxiety attacks
Speaker 1: in movies. Uh, Saving Private Ryan? Actually, I get pretty
Speaker 1: anxious when the scene where he the dude could save
Speaker 1: the guy from being stabbed, but he just he's he seized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too scared.
Speaker 1: That scene is rough when the when the dude finally
Speaker 1: realizes he actually lost and is about to get.
Speaker 3: It's a very, very anxiety. It's like the feeling I
Speaker 3: feel like in that scene is dressed. This would suck,
Speaker 3: This would suck. This one.
Speaker 1: That's rough.
Speaker 2: It's just sitting there eating popcorn going sucks for them. No, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: not their performers.
Speaker 3: I was a film Major.
Speaker 2: Award.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, one batt left another. Oh last thing
Speaker 1: that fucking pissed me off last night while we were
Speaker 1: waiting for friends to arrive. We were sitting at the
Speaker 1: bar and I asked the man. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I've never had have you seen the show Search Party?
Speaker 2: Ooh?
Speaker 1: She's like, no, what's it about. I told her it's
Speaker 1: Michael Showalter. It was David Wayne involved as well. So
Speaker 1: the Wet Hot The Wet Hot Guys made a show
Speaker 1: four seasons and here's the premise of the first one.
Speaker 1: Five seasons, and I told her. I was like, if
Speaker 1: you watch the if you were to watch the first
Speaker 1: episode and then the finale, you would be like, how
Speaker 1: the fuck is this the same show? So I was like,
Speaker 1: we should watch that soon. It was an HBO.
Speaker 3: Show.
Speaker 1: It was fun to like it was made for HBO.
Speaker 1: So I went to HBO. It's not there. I was like, interesting.
Speaker 1: So Amanda looks it up on DECIDERR. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's on Hulu. So I get to Hulu and it's
Speaker 1: locked because it's it's only available on HBO via Hulu
Speaker 1: the add on. But it's not on HBO even though
Speaker 1: it's available on HBO via Hulu. It's the stupidest fucking thing.
Speaker 1: I hate this streaming culture that we like. I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like an old man, but I fucking
Speaker 1: hate it. It's so stupid, it's it's the dumbest shit ever.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cable wasn't perfect, but at least it was. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I want to go back to that.
Speaker 1: I just like it was so annoying to me, Like
Speaker 1: that was the most dystopic thing, dystopian thing ever. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I want to watch. If you have not watched Search Party,
Speaker 1: it's well worth watching. No one ever talks about on Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you have.
Speaker 2: The HBO on. I watched all the Austin Powers. Actually
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't watched the third. I watched the
Speaker 2: first day and the second one. I was hoping that
Speaker 2: they would, uh you know, they would, they would make
Speaker 2: it in this new era, and uh, I think they survived.
Speaker 2: I think they're still.
Speaker 1: Funny, still way too hot, Jesus.
Speaker 2: Christ smoking hot, both of them. It's just incredible the
Speaker 2: caliber of women they have on these movies. Looking at
Speaker 2: Austin Power's teeth, it's really it's it's very The naked
Speaker 2: jokes are great. I mean they really work.
Speaker 3: I still think about the joke when he gets unfrozen
Speaker 3: and they're taking all of his ship out and giving
Speaker 3: him his personal effects back, and he's like, oh, one
Speaker 3: Swedish made a penis and larger pump. But he's like,
Speaker 3: this sort of thing isn't my bag baby. It's like
Speaker 3: one book Swedish made penis and larger pumps, and me,
Speaker 3: this sort of thing is my bag baby. By Austin Powers.
Speaker 3: That is such a fucking funny.
Speaker 2: That's a good joke. And he's like, I'm being set up.
Speaker 2: Let's go. And then he comes back with the box
Speaker 2: and he's like, put it in, put it in, and
Speaker 2: he uses it to kill a guy later in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a guy like is choking him and she throws him
Speaker 2: the penis pump and he and he pumps his penis
Speaker 2: to get out of the choke hold. It comes back.
Speaker 3: I was thirteen when that came out. I think it
Speaker 3: was ninety seven, and I'm seeing in the theaters. I
Speaker 3: think I saw it by myself, and I was so
Speaker 3: excited about it. I don't know if I've ever laughed
Speaker 3: harder than that peeing scene when he gets unfrozen, so evacuation,
Speaker 3: evacuation shaken. It was just the funniest. Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 3: been frozen for thirty years, but he has to be
Speaker 3: real bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good. I gotta watch that again. Wait,
Speaker 1: was that was that the first one?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Second?
Speaker 3: First one?
Speaker 1: Okay, first one the Spy Shagged Me. I thought that
Speaker 1: was the first that the first first Powers International Memnistry
Speaker 1: and Powers, then Spy Shagged Me and then Austin Powers
Speaker 1: and gold Member. What's the what's what's your favorite?
Speaker 3: I feel like the first one is. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think I think it's uh what's the word for diminishing
Speaker 3: returns Bank? And I watched the randomly watched gold Member
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 2: Uh was the weakest. It was pretty still because they
Speaker 2: have to rehash a lot of the jokes. The second
Speaker 2: one has a great uh shadow scene, which I think
Speaker 2: is really similar to the police movie Ones right where
Speaker 2: you're like, it's it's all like a joke of whether
Speaker 2: or not they're having sex or not.
Speaker 3: She's like hammering something into his asshole, a racket.
Speaker 2: And it looks like she's putting a racket in his butt.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 3: And there's the thing with the rocket taken off. It
Speaker 3: looks like it's Johnson and like you know all those yes,
Speaker 3: you know one.
Speaker 1: Of my fa favorite bits in that whole trilogy. It's
Speaker 1: so fucking stupid. I think it's gold Member. Uh, what's
Speaker 1: the character is? Like, I'm from Holland. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: I think about that a lot. It's the stupidest bit.
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: But but yeah, Dan, you should check out Wake Up
Speaker 1: dead Man and Marry we.
Speaker 2: All we all have a couple of things on our docket.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about video games?
Speaker 3: Sure? Mary?
Speaker 1: Did you like my response to your Instagram story with
Speaker 1: Akarina in it? Do you remember what it was? I
Speaker 1: just said this game. I just said this game sucks, honestly, favorite.
Speaker 2: I brush off when you do stuff like that because
Speaker 2: you do it so often to me, I don't even
Speaker 2: like it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Pick my battles more than.
Speaker 2: You know, you no longer get a rise out of
Speaker 2: me because most of the time, like if I take
Speaker 2: a selfie and I know what looks good, you usually
Speaker 2: will be in the comments being like you look like ship, like.
Speaker 1: You've done that you do?
Speaker 2: You will say like who cares? Whatever?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: I'll say whatever you're in there being like you know ky.
Speaker 1: S yeah, yeah, yeah, it was killer. I not say that,
Speaker 1: I say whatever with this heresy, No.
Speaker 2: You neg me, and so like, I get really adjusted
Speaker 2: when you're in the comments, uh, saying something opposite from
Speaker 2: how you feel. I don't get upset because I'll be like,
Speaker 2: that must be the opposite of how you feel.
Speaker 1: It really pains me to hear that it does not
Speaker 1: have an effect on you anymore.
Speaker 3: Do you think who's the least and most predictable person here?
Speaker 2: That's hard. It depends on what. Like if it's food related. Uh, well,
Speaker 2: actually you're both. You're both really predictable. I'd be like
Speaker 2: this guy re heats taco but and I'd be like,
Speaker 2: this guy is having some kind of cornish hen with
Speaker 2: some kind of like forty year old fucking boujeol. That
Speaker 2: sounds great, I know, shits on on cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a predictable person. Fucking shit.
Speaker 2: I think it really does depend based on the scenario.
Speaker 2: I could tell you what I think each of you
Speaker 2: would do, and I think i'd be fairly. But we
Speaker 2: know each other. We've been doing this for so long.
Speaker 2: I think there's like an element of it where I
Speaker 2: just like I've come to learn things that I think
Speaker 2: are habitual about both of you maybe based on like
Speaker 2: just how consistent Dan's life is, you might be the
Speaker 2: more predictable person because you very rarely do predictable. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have a predictable life like you You're going to
Speaker 2: be Yes, you're going to be on the Giant bomb,
Speaker 2: You're gonna Dan addicted, You're you're gonna want to watch TV.
Speaker 1: And you have carefully crafted a life for yourself. And
Speaker 1: this is as much a compliment as an insult to
Speaker 1: prepare yourself for both.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I think you have carefully crafted a life in which
Speaker 1: everything is as caters to your interest as possible every
Speaker 1: moment of the day. I feel like you're not uncomfortable often. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I just don't think you put yourself in
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situations that much anymore.
Speaker 3: But as far as predictability and stuff like, I'm willing to,
Speaker 3: like on a whim all go you know, to fly
Speaker 3: to a country I've never been too, or jump out
Speaker 3: of a plane or something, and it's like, I'll, uh,
Speaker 3: you do some You're not always I think I'm adventurous.
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, I can see part of that.
Speaker 3: I think so right.
Speaker 2: I don't think you turn things down. You know, traveling
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I think you.
Speaker 1: Are You're still I'm not saying you're like you're a hermit.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I do think you put have put a
Speaker 1: lot of effort into crafting a life that I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody does the.
Speaker 2: Same, Isn't that's a goal though, Like, I think my
Speaker 2: life is extremely comfortable for me as well, and that
Speaker 2: is fully intentional. That all the things that I do
Speaker 2: are because I want to do them. It's probably one
Speaker 2: of the reasons, like none of us had children, were
Speaker 2: all like we right, we are prioritizing our own extreme comforts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but is that the same as predictability though, I
Speaker 3: mean like points.
Speaker 1: My point, like, I think we know what you like
Speaker 1: to do, and thus I can probably predict what you
Speaker 1: would want to do tomorrow unless you would do it.
Speaker 1: It's like there's my roundabout way of saying that. I
Speaker 1: think Dan's the most predictable, but I also think I'm
Speaker 1: pretty predictable.
Speaker 3: I think we all might be kind of around the
Speaker 3: same because it's very clear what all of our interests
Speaker 3: are and how we like to spend our time. I
Speaker 3: think all three of us it's very clear for sure.
Speaker 3: Like it's like every time I see you in my stories,
Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm like, okay, it's going to be
Speaker 3: a wine thing, and it's always wine.
Speaker 2: Dinner is something just dinner that him could marry my.
Speaker 3: Dog sucking dog or you're playing a switch on top
Speaker 3: of a mountain or somethink all of us. Yes, And
Speaker 3: then there's some caption like.
Speaker 2: That's so true. Yeah, and it has some like really
Speaker 2: not humble caption.
Speaker 1: Merry story. Recently, I'm like, oh great, here's another fucking
Speaker 1: eighty minute meta glasses video of nothing happening. Can't wait
Speaker 1: as long as we're just insaulting each other. There was,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I saw it and I said out loud to him, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck am I? Why did I
Speaker 1: watch that whole thing? It's just like autumn core vibes.
Speaker 2: It is autumn core. Yeah. The meta glasses get you
Speaker 2: because you take these like sixty second long videos of
Speaker 2: nothing and then you're like, no, itter, stitch these together
Speaker 2: and post them, and then schlups watch the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just hoping for some dog. But I don't think
Speaker 1: I post much except unless it's wine or something. I
Speaker 1: cook these days, or like or cats cat stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see Boss on your stories a lot, Dan,
Speaker 2: that's pretty consistent, photogenic.
Speaker 3: I feel like the most.
Speaker 2: Interesting animal in your house.
Speaker 3: The most unpredictable Boss is definitely the most cats. Just
Speaker 3: cats in general. I think Gizmo is extremely predictable in
Speaker 3: razors psychopathy.
Speaker 1: I think dogs. People like dogs in large part because
Speaker 1: they're predictable. Government PM, it's time for my razor gizmo.
Speaker 3: Do no you did you predicts gonna buy any foottholl?
Speaker 3: Do you know more? No that I would not.
Speaker 1: I would not more.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 2: I guess send money on that and it's got like
Speaker 2: a hand that's falling off, and you're like, I know
Speaker 2: how to fix it with more ugly ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that person also would not have a
Speaker 1: grimlin in the on the floor.
Speaker 2: That's extremely predictable.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Did I know it would be a xeno morph?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Did I know you would spend money on some stupid ship?
Speaker 1: Yes, As a woman who had three sec TVs buckled
Speaker 1: into her car on the way.
Speaker 2: Up, valuable resale, they have they have valuable for so.
Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2: It's falling start you got swindled brook.
Speaker 3: No, it's a tremendous shape for when it was made. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's ninety, that's thirty four one.
Speaker 2: It looks like a man in a suit. The shoulders
Speaker 2: are off.
Speaker 3: He has good posture.
Speaker 2: No, it's been constructed.
Speaker 3: Weird.
Speaker 2: You got the you got the wringer, you got the
Speaker 2: black sheep of the Zeno morph.
Speaker 3: No, you show me another one of these.
Speaker 2: One was made by Uncle Gary in a garage. There's
Speaker 2: something weird with him.
Speaker 3: No, greats are weird.
Speaker 1: That's the first one they made, and then Ridley Scott regular.
Speaker 2: From this one.
Speaker 1: It's appous, look dangerous? Were you trying to trial? Oh?
Speaker 1: Specifically was made.
Speaker 2: By his cousin, Jackie Geiger. She didn't know a lot
Speaker 2: about it, hot gluing it.
Speaker 1: That's even weirder that it was made five years after
Speaker 1: the movie.
Speaker 3: But I mean, they make stuff for movies like that
Speaker 3: right when it comes out. You know, Yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: you could buy a Terminator skeleton that was made this year.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know?
Speaker 1: Sure? Yeah? But Mary, did you finish Akarina?
Speaker 2: I am on the final.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I want to say, people wonder why
Speaker 1: we don't well, I mean there's numerous reasons we don't
Speaker 1: have chapter markers, mainly because I'm lazy, but b people
Speaker 1: are like, how the funk would we chapter mark anything
Speaker 1: we talk about? Right, It's like, Okarina for ten seconds
Speaker 1: and then it's fucking gremlins and weird predictability.
Speaker 3: Married to the beat ocrena of time. I'm like an
Speaker 3: next to a waterfall.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you Mary?
Speaker 1: Can you on a boat? Did you record your entire
Speaker 1: play through with the meadow glasses and post.
Speaker 2: If I did, watched it and then blained about it
Speaker 2: eighty times?
Speaker 1: Did you finish are?
Speaker 2: Though I have not finished it, I'm very close. I've
Speaker 2: done all the six uh Medallions is that what they're called.
Speaker 2: I've gotten all of the Medallions, and I'm in the castle,
Speaker 2: which is so interesting. It's not Gannon's Castle, it's Gannon Dwarf.
Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot.
Speaker 1: So spoilers Gannon's Castle, though I thought I thought the splash.
Speaker 2: Better than I do.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's like.
Speaker 2: It looks ridiculous. This is my first time fully completing this,
Speaker 2: which is important and something I didn't realize I should
Speaker 2: have done ages ago.
Speaker 1: No one told you that Acarina time was good.
Speaker 2: Everybody tells me it's good, and it's like the number
Speaker 2: one game that everybody plays on awesome games done quick.
Speaker 2: I've seen people play this game. I know this game
Speaker 2: very well. Have I beat this game from beginning to end?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I should have. I should
Speaker 2: have done this, And so I just kind of sat
Speaker 2: down and really got to appreciate all of the intricacies
Speaker 2: of why this game is so phenomenal and everybody is
Speaker 2: obsessed with it. That's awesome, it is very good.
Speaker 1: Wait, so oh shit, this is really fun because now
Speaker 1: I can ask you questions like fresh, sure, I don't
Speaker 1: know the last time I talked to someone who had
Speaker 1: not played it.
Speaker 3: Wait, where are you're playing this on legitimate sixty four? Right?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm playing it on Nintendo sixty four on a
Speaker 2: thirteen inch.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, Oh so you get like you actually
Speaker 4: the iron boots are on the equipment screen, not the
Speaker 4: item screen.
Speaker 3: Had done?
Speaker 1: Did the water temple annoy you? Mary?
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The water temple is annoying. And I was really trying
Speaker 2: to not do this with a guide. What ended up
Speaker 2: happening is is I have I had friends with me
Speaker 2: in the cabin, and anytime I got stuck, they would
Speaker 2: very politely be like, Hey, wasn't it cool when you
Speaker 2: filled the water that one of the floaters floated up.
Speaker 2: That's really cool, right, And they were hinting to me
Speaker 2: without telling me what to do, which I really appreciate.
Speaker 2: I do want to give it a yeah, like that
Speaker 2: was a really nice to have instead of a guide
Speaker 2: that literally said you got to go back down one
Speaker 2: of those holes. Now. I had friends that would casually say, hey,
Speaker 2: didn't you just get like fire on a and then
Speaker 2: air out? That's crazy, And I'd be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I used a fire, you know, to get all the enemies.
Speaker 2: At the same time, like I was constantly being given
Speaker 2: little delicate hints to continue on. I found the Water
Speaker 2: Temple to be frustrating. I I'm trying to think. I
Speaker 2: don't think it was my most frustrated. I did not
Speaker 2: like the Halloween Town dungeon the most shadow.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like it the one we go down to
Speaker 3: the well bottom of the well or Shadow Temple both.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're both annoying. But the Shadow
Speaker 2: Temple is annoying because you have to use these eyes
Speaker 2: the whole time, and you need the lens of truth.
Speaker 1: To me, yeah, it's a magnifying. It's like a magnifying.
Speaker 2: I found that one to be the least inspiring, I
Speaker 2: guess is what I was. Oh, I hate those hands, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're creepy. And then the mummies that they screated, Yeah,
Speaker 2: those are weird.
Speaker 1: I used to like the Shadow Temple. I used to
Speaker 1: say it's my favorite, like that. That dungeon is really
Speaker 1: just a cool aesthetic to me. But it's not the
Speaker 1: most interesting dungeon. Like a lot of the puzzles are like, oh,
Speaker 1: the huffer boots will get you an extra few over
Speaker 1: that ledge so you barely reach out, so it's.
Speaker 2: Such a bare end and you're spen and sliding all
Speaker 2: over the place. You gotta take them off anytime you're
Speaker 2: fighting someone. So that's been kind of irritating, the thing
Speaker 2: that pissed me off about the Shadow Temple. And I'll
Speaker 2: remember this forever and maybe you guys will be like,
Speaker 2: I remember when this happened to me. But the very
Speaker 2: beginning of the Shadow Temple, you're in this you go
Speaker 2: downstairs and you're in this cage and you can't you
Speaker 2: can see maybe like a very end of the temple,
Speaker 2: but you can't get out. You're in a cage, so
Speaker 2: you got to go back up. You go through like
Speaker 2: a hundred different rooms to finally get to the outside
Speaker 2: of this cage, which is so cool and you're looking
Speaker 2: at it and it's so neat. I climb up the
Speaker 2: stairs to get into this like original cage that I
Speaker 2: was in at the beginning of the temple, and I
Speaker 2: keep going up, can't get back down. I had to
Speaker 2: do the whole temple and go through all the doors
Speaker 2: all over again. It's like a bit of a I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just like a ketcha you know, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Now you have to go through all the rooms again. Kid,
Speaker 2: that kind of has There's been a couple times and irritated.
Speaker 2: I found the handboss really irritating. I didn't like those
Speaker 2: didn't like that guy.
Speaker 3: Do you like the twin?
Speaker 2: I liked the witches because I I think that they
Speaker 2: gave me enough hints. Multiple times I attacked someone and
Speaker 2: they were like, just so you know, you got to
Speaker 2: get the sisters to attack each other. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I'll log that away, like I don't need a loe.
Speaker 2: I just need someone to give me a tiny little
Speaker 2: hint in the game, and if you talk to the characters,
Speaker 2: they'll tell you how to beat everything. As long as
Speaker 2: you're talking to the townspeople, a game's not that hard.
Speaker 3: We're just navvy, just walking onto something, and.
Speaker 2: She's helpful as well.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite dungeon child or adult?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I think the music in Grudo is phenomenal, like.
Speaker 1: The like the acoustic Spanish guitar.
Speaker 2: In din In din In.
Speaker 3: But that's why I don't. I don't love that.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, it's so funny you say that I
Speaker 2: don't like that either, but I think atmospherically that is
Speaker 2: my favorite. Uh, it's really neat. There was this time
Speaker 2: where I had my horse and there's a bridge but
Speaker 2: it's not complete, and I thought to myself, like, I
Speaker 2: could probably use my boots, like I could probably like
Speaker 2: maybe jump across or something. But then I was like,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't make it so that I could jump this
Speaker 2: with my horse, would they? And I fucking jumped across
Speaker 2: this bridge with my horse. And I don't know why
Speaker 2: I've never seen this in a in an awesome games
Speaker 2: done quick playthrough or whatever. But I feel like I
Speaker 2: was the first person to figure that out.
Speaker 3: I felt awesome doesn't have a camera cut and stuff.
Speaker 3: It'smatic as fun.
Speaker 1: Well, what's funny if you only ever watched that game
Speaker 1: through good Games Done quick? They do the clip from
Speaker 1: the Decu tree to Gannon's castle, so you're not right,
Speaker 1: which is funny, like a.
Speaker 3: Queen Goma fight and you can like backflip a wall
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all cheating that games, which is going up
Speaker 2: to Gannondo.
Speaker 1: If memory serves the spirals three, that's awesome too. And
Speaker 1: you hear him upstairs playing the organ.
Speaker 3: And it gets louder and louder as you're going to
Speaker 3: the biggest fuck.
Speaker 1: The fact that that game ninety seven ninety eight, The
Speaker 1: fact that like just to get like geeky about, like
Speaker 1: the fact that in the Shadow Temple, which I agree,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the best design temple, I just
Speaker 1: like it because like at a certain point you're literally
Speaker 1: crossing like the river the equivalent of the river sticks
Speaker 1: on the boat, and then you get to yeah, that's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the symbolism and all that's amazing, But yeah, replaying that game,
Speaker 1: I go back and forth in the Water Temple. I'm
Speaker 1: not one of the people who says it's actually the
Speaker 1: best one. There's people who do that, and I that insane.
Speaker 3: I also think the myth of the Water Temple, like
Speaker 3: the it's just it's the worst thing ever. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: it's kind of annoying. It's like the core mechanic is annoying.
Speaker 3: The three D your.
Speaker 2: Boots on and awful lot is like a.
Speaker 3: Little irritating, Mary. I don't know if you ever played
Speaker 3: the three DS remake, it is tremendous, and it also
Speaker 3: does stuff where it's like on the bottom screen of
Speaker 3: the three DS you can just tap to like equipment
Speaker 3: and equipped the boots, and they made the In.
Speaker 1: The original the boots were on your equipment screen, which
Speaker 1: was separate from the item equipped screen. So in the
Speaker 1: three DS version, Mary, you can assign the boots to
Speaker 1: a sea button. Yeah, okay, instead of instead of pressing
Speaker 1: pause to like I don't know, jumping in mid air
Speaker 1: and then I would always jump and then in midair
Speaker 1: pause put the boots on, so I sank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the water spent a lot of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Water Temple does stuff where it's like, okay, there's the
Speaker 3: crystal or whatever you hit to raise and lower the water,
Speaker 3: It'll have like a colored line like okay, here's a
Speaker 3: pink line that goes from the switch to where the
Speaker 3: water level will go to. So it's just so much
Speaker 3: clearer where it's like, Okay, if I need the water
Speaker 3: to be there, I hit that thing. You know, it's
Speaker 3: the three DS thing is upgrade in like every.
Speaker 2: Way I did suffer with uh, the way that they
Speaker 2: do it. I just never really understood what water level
Speaker 2: I was supposed to have at any given time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'd be like, well, I guess I'll put it
Speaker 2: in middle. Okay, it's not here, I'll put it. One
Speaker 2: of the reasons I have not beaten this game yet,
Speaker 2: and I've been playing this since the twenty third of December,
Speaker 2: so I've had well over a week where I've been
Speaker 2: playing this every evening. I put a lot of hours
Speaker 2: in this game is because I think certain temples don't
Speaker 2: respect my fucking time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they make me go through the temple like
Speaker 2: six times. Am I irritated about it? No, it's my
Speaker 2: Christmas fucking break. I'm having a great time. I'm having
Speaker 2: a great time. Is it time consuming? Yes, like I'm
Speaker 2: spending hours raising and lowering water.
Speaker 1: You know, I wish I could go back. I wish
Speaker 1: I could like erase that game from my memory and
Speaker 1: play it again for the first time, because I've played
Speaker 1: it so many times, Like I can't put myself in
Speaker 1: a position where I don't know like how to defeat
Speaker 1: the post sisters in the Forest Temple, or I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly where the crack in the wall is in
Speaker 1: the Water Temple where it's gonna get me that next
Speaker 1: key I need. Like, that's really cool that you played
Speaker 1: it for the first time. I'm like, kind of I'm
Speaker 1: jealous and that's crazy. But did you like last question?
Speaker 1: Each of the temples when you're an adult has like
Speaker 1: a mini dungeon leading up to it. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: have a favorite one there?
Speaker 2: Trying to think of all of the different mini ones
Speaker 2: they had.
Speaker 1: I think because the Forest Temple, it's basically just like
Speaker 1: I guess it's the Lost Woods Labyrinth. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember it because you for Forest.
Speaker 2: I loved the Labyrinth, but it was fun figuring out
Speaker 2: that it was audio based. I liked that it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's music coming from these holes, so you go to
Speaker 2: the music. Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: I like's of the Sacred Forest Grotto.
Speaker 2: I think it's the.
Speaker 1: The big Moblins. I think they're actually just called them moblins,
Speaker 1: but they.
Speaker 3: They slammed the ground.
Speaker 1: And then there's the ice Cavern, which is before the
Speaker 1: water Temple Fire temple. Fun, what are you doing in
Speaker 1: the fire Temple?
Speaker 2: I liked. I liked the ice a lot music.
Speaker 1: There's awesome, like it sounds like they were like it's
Speaker 1: it sounds icy like. There were sounds like playing like
Speaker 1: a xylophone on like diamonds or something.
Speaker 2: It had a cool puzzle. There was a cool puzzle
Speaker 2: in the ice area with this cube and you had
Speaker 2: to push it against certain things to get it to
Speaker 2: land where you needed.
Speaker 3: It to be, like the silver rupees, right, like, don't
Speaker 3: you need to get like five silver rupees to Yeah.
Speaker 2: I liked all the little bonus areas as well, of like, hey,
Speaker 2: do this archery test to get a quarter of a heart.
Speaker 2: There was one that was it kind of looked like bowling,
Speaker 2: but you you have to use bomb choose to get yeah,
Speaker 2: and I got. I got all those. I've enjoyed the
Speaker 2: mini games and things like that. There's been a lot
Speaker 2: of aha moments. I think the first time I can't
Speaker 2: uh I was a kid and I became an adult.
Speaker 2: I just went, oh, this is why everyone fucking loves
Speaker 2: this game. He's like, yeah, where sucks now? Yeah, the
Speaker 2: Village Square is crazy, only so undest.
Speaker 1: They just such a good job making the world feel
Speaker 1: so much like horrific more horrific. I like the Grudo
Speaker 1: Fortress quite a bit, even with the stealth stuff. Once
Speaker 1: you get past that and you're fighting everybody but.
Speaker 2: Ladies, it was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The the Spirit Temple is so fucking red because
Speaker 1: you actually have to do part of the temple as
Speaker 1: a child early on, then part as an adult, which
Speaker 1: is awesome.
Speaker 2: That is neat, I will say. I think sometimes you
Speaker 2: have these wonderful rose colored glasses cause you have like
Speaker 2: all these good memories with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually pretty fucking irritated getting to that
Speaker 2: temple the first time and being like, where's the door
Speaker 2: and there's just a tiny little hole, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I do this as a kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of don't love that either.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. I think there was like a
Speaker 2: pall in me where I was like walk all the
Speaker 2: way fucking back, and then half the time I would
Speaker 2: be there and I'd be like, oh right, I could
Speaker 2: fucking warp. I would forget. I would forget that I
Speaker 2: have these speed things. So I was sometimes I was
Speaker 2: like wasting my own time?
Speaker 1: Was that the first instance of fast travel?
Speaker 3: I can't be the first.
Speaker 2: This game invented like a hundred different I think it
Speaker 2: was the first. It had fucking fishing, you guys.
Speaker 3: The fishing. That was awesome. I love that.
Speaker 2: It's like the first game with fishing.
Speaker 1: I swear I remember the call it like Z targeting
Speaker 1: is what they called. That was the whole game for
Speaker 1: them when they were making Yeah, first.
Speaker 2: Time, I lating, but good for them. I feel like
Speaker 2: I can't ever lock in the way I want to.
Speaker 3: But whatever, did you think it looks like the windmill
Speaker 3: guy was whacking off into that box?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? The guy was like, I like it when
Speaker 2: I goes to my really cast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only get off to that song.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was cool to Okay.
Speaker 1: That was also really fucking cool when he's like, years ago,
Speaker 1: this fucking kid came in played this goddamn song and
Speaker 1: then you're like, I wonder who that kid was, and
Speaker 1: then you see him again as a care.
Speaker 3: Like, oh it was me.
Speaker 1: It was the most like Prisoner of Azkaman fucking interstellar moment.
Speaker 1: It was awesome.
Speaker 2: There's so many like aha moments. I as an adult,
Speaker 2: I ran into a what are they called scarecrow and
Speaker 2: he was like, I'd never forget a song. And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, if I go here as
Speaker 2: a kid, he'll know a song. And it was really
Speaker 2: neat to see that come full circle. There was a
Speaker 2: lot of things I did as an adult that when
Speaker 2: I came back, I was like, oh my god, as
Speaker 2: a kid, that'll be so cool. I planted a seed
Speaker 2: as a kid, and then as an adult, I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck. It's like a whole plant that like
Speaker 2: takes me places. How cool is that? None of this
Speaker 2: stuff is in a G A GDQ. These guys are
Speaker 2: missing half the game. I don't even know why they're
Speaker 2: playing it the way they're playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3: They're trying to get through it as fast as they can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck? Awesome? Awesome games done. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the end of that joke is. Let's move
Speaker 1: on Dan. What he be playing?
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting what Mary was saying about, like, you know,
Speaker 3: over the holidays, like you have your Holiday break game
Speaker 3: and things like that, and I think that that is
Speaker 3: a great time to go back to an old classic
Speaker 3: because it's most of the big releases are out at
Speaker 3: that point, you've probably played through the stuff that you
Speaker 3: want to play through from that year for Game of
Speaker 3: the Year discussions, and so I did the exact same thing.
Speaker 3: I so Mario Galaxy two has the only star in
Speaker 3: a Mario game I've never gotten, and because I always
Speaker 3: hundred percent Mario games over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: But when it first came out, I played through it,
Speaker 3: and if you remember, you get all one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty stars, and then they populate all the levels with
Speaker 3: like you know, green stars, usually two or three of them,
Speaker 3: and so you can get up to two hundred and
Speaker 3: forty and then there's a final level called the Perfect Run,
Speaker 3: and you can beat it for one star and then
Speaker 3: it's like all right, well for the comet to show up.
Speaker 3: For you to get the bonus star, you have to
Speaker 3: get like nine nine and ninety nine star bits. And
Speaker 3: the first time I was playing through it, I just
Speaker 3: thought starbugs were like this thing that you just like
Speaker 3: could shoot willy nilly to kind of like you know,
Speaker 3: distract enemies and stuff like that or stun them. So
Speaker 3: I was not like saving up starbits really and I
Speaker 3: was like, god damn, I don't want to fucking grind
Speaker 3: ten thousand star bits to get one last star I
Speaker 3: already beat the game, and then I did the super
Speaker 3: beat the game thing and then it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this one last thing is fine. I can live without
Speaker 3: doing it. And I never played it again past that.
Speaker 3: I love the game, but just never played it again.
Speaker 3: And so since they put it out on Switch Too,
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, well, now's the time I
Speaker 3: should finally go through it. So yeah, took me like
Speaker 3: maybe twenty five or a little more hours, but I
Speaker 3: did everything, and now it's like there's just obvious ways
Speaker 3: to grind Starbirds. There's like I did a stream where
Speaker 3: I was just grinding Starbirds and then I unlocked that
Speaker 3: final level and I didn't realize it was like these
Speaker 3: were three D Mario games post Galaxy Too, if kind
Speaker 3: of always had like a super bullshit hard final thing,
Speaker 3: like Odyssey three D World had like you know, Champions Road,
Speaker 3: like these really fucking tough levels and this is insane.
Speaker 3: It's just this huge gauntlet of platforming and combat. You
Speaker 3: have one health, so anything touches you, you die. There's
Speaker 3: also a million places you can fall and die immediately.
Speaker 3: There are zero checkpoints, so it is just is.
Speaker 2: This so mean?
Speaker 3: Because I think it's like I think Mario games three D.
Speaker 3: Mario games have always been amazing at like, look, if
Speaker 3: you want to just beat the game, you can beat
Speaker 3: Mario sixty four with a handful of stars or whatever,
Speaker 3: and then but like, if you want to be a
Speaker 3: sicko about it, you get all these and then as
Speaker 3: they progress, it's like, okay, so like you can beat
Speaker 3: the game, and then you can really beat the game.
Speaker 3: And then if you're a fucking psycho about this, here's
Speaker 3: the crazy last thing you can do. And I always
Speaker 3: love doing the crazy last thing. So I had never
Speaker 3: done this before, and I was on stream and I
Speaker 3: did the grinding and everything. I got all the star bits.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, okay, now just get the last star,
Speaker 3: the last star I've never gotten before, and holy shit,
Speaker 3: it was hard. It was like, I'm very good at
Speaker 3: Mario games, but I died. I think I know. I
Speaker 3: died like forty plus times something like that might have
Speaker 3: been like forty five or something like that. But super satisfying.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's well designed. It's just incredibly brutal
Speaker 3: as difficulty.
Speaker 1: Did you beat it?
Speaker 3: I did? I did, And what's it?
Speaker 1: I just want to look it up on YouTube.
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, the perfect run, but it's not the
Speaker 3: initial one because the initial one has checkpoints and not
Speaker 3: as many enemies and stuff. So it's the first I
Speaker 3: think I beat it the first time without the bullshit
Speaker 3: comet difficulty one or whatever. So super love that. And yeah,
Speaker 3: Galaxy two, it's it's awesome on the switch, you know,
Speaker 3: the with the pro controller, all the the motion stuff
Speaker 3: is great. I played a lot on planes and you know,
Speaker 3: detached the joy cons and using it like a we
Speaker 3: mode and pointing the star bits and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So oh, that shit's great. It's a tremendous game. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I still have a few days left of Winter Break,
Speaker 3: so I finished Galaxy two, and then, as Mary did,
Speaker 3: I went back to a Zelda game and Link between
Speaker 3: Worlds is one that so good. Such a game, it's incredible.
Speaker 3: It's the only ten I ever gave a review for
Speaker 3: game and Former and I played through it four times
Speaker 3: when it first came out, like I beat it. Then
Speaker 3: I did it on whatever master mode. Then I did
Speaker 3: it with one hundred percent, like getting every heart and everything,
Speaker 3: and then I just did it again, like back to
Speaker 3: back to back to back. I've never done a game
Speaker 3: like that, and I haven't played it really since then.
Speaker 3: And so now I've got the A Y N Thor,
Speaker 3: which is that like you know emulation device that has
Speaker 3: two screens, and it's like, well, this is the perfect
Speaker 3: fucking way, Like there are ways to emulate Link between Worlds,
Speaker 3: you know, on a computer, and it's like, oh, I
Speaker 3: click R three and it switches to the bottom screen,
Speaker 3: but it's not the same, you know, like you want
Speaker 3: to be able to like touch the bottom screen and
Speaker 3: play it like you remember it. And the AY and
Speaker 3: Thor is fantastic for that, and that screen is beautiful.
Speaker 3: You're playing like four times the internal resolution, so it
Speaker 3: might as well be a remake of Link between Worlds
Speaker 3: on like much better looking hardware. So it's it's really
Speaker 3: been the best way to use that device and to
Speaker 3: replay this game. And uh yeah, I'm like a few
Speaker 3: dungeons in I'll probably right after the show tonight, you know,
Speaker 3: go play a bunch more. But yeah, I forget how
Speaker 3: good it looks. It's kind of before they did that
Speaker 3: very chevy Links Awakening remake that that art style. It's
Speaker 3: kind of in between like a classic Zelda style and
Speaker 3: the like super you're squishy.
Speaker 2: But you're not too cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not like a little you know, Santa
Speaker 3: Zel for whatever. It looks like they basically made a
Speaker 3: sequel to Link to the Past, which is like my
Speaker 3: first favorite game I ever had, And I remember when
Speaker 3: I announced it, I was like, it's going to be
Speaker 3: the same map, but it's going to be just like,
Speaker 3: this is basically a remake. It's like, no, it is
Speaker 3: the same map, but they do so many interesting things
Speaker 3: with that, like even the stuff you see with like
Speaker 3: the energy meter and like renting items and being able
Speaker 3: to do dungeons and whatever order you want. Like it
Speaker 3: introduced a lot of stuff that they didn't go all
Speaker 3: the way on until stuff like you know, breath the
Speaker 3: while so very interesting seeing the stuff they were trying there. Right,
Speaker 3: I think when did this.
Speaker 2: Game come out Link Between Worlds.
Speaker 3: I'm going to think that twenty thirteen or so, because yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was at GI and I left there in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 3: so it couldn't have been much past that.
Speaker 2: I was that game spot when this came out. This
Speaker 2: is a crazy this is a really good game. When
Speaker 2: this came out, it's cool to see that you reviewed
Speaker 2: this as well, and you like get to come back
Speaker 2: to because when you're reviewing a game, maybe you can
Speaker 2: like educate me on this. But I feel like you're
Speaker 2: playing a game just maybe slightly differently than you're playing
Speaker 2: it in a casual Christmas setting. There's just a bit
Speaker 2: of more of an era of you like making sure
Speaker 2: you're ticking all the boxes that you're really I don't know,
Speaker 2: you're just like you have to do it in a
Speaker 2: professional sense. It's just slightly off.
Speaker 3: There are a couple of big things that change it
Speaker 3: where it's like. One of them is if it's an
Speaker 3: embargoed game, you're definitely rushing through it, like I've talked
Speaker 3: about with Deust Trainding and Red Dead two, and that
Speaker 3: very much changes the way you're taking the game in.
Speaker 3: But I kind of think the bigger thing almost for me,
Speaker 3: is like, you know, my memory sucks, so I have
Speaker 3: always always when I reviewed games taken a billion notes,
Speaker 3: and so when I'm playing a game for review, whether
Speaker 3: it's Link between Worlds back Then or Metroid Prime four,
Speaker 3: you know, a couple months ago or a month ago,
Speaker 3: I'm just pausing every three seconds to write down thoughts
Speaker 3: on it because it's like, Okay, I mean, I'm assembling
Speaker 3: my review as I'm playing the game, and that is
Speaker 3: so much different than like I'm just gonna sit down
Speaker 3: and sip on some scotch, put something on in the background,
Speaker 3: and you can forget.
Speaker 2: It the second that it's happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like I'm just so deeply enjoying it,
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm'm very much enjoying playing at this time.
Speaker 3: Not that I did in the first time, obviously, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it is. It is much more relaxed to doing it
Speaker 3: this way.
Speaker 1: Nice. I uh, I want to replay Ocarina as well.
Speaker 1: I want to replay Majora's Mask. That's my favorite game
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 3: Do the three DS one? I assume you've done that, Yes,
Speaker 3: I had, it make sense. It's even more of a
Speaker 3: step up than those. Oh I should specify.
Speaker 1: I want to I mean, I want to replay these
Speaker 1: games like my yearly replay. I just haven't gotten to
Speaker 1: them yet. I usually played Metroid Prime one over the holidays.
Speaker 1: This year, my plan was to play Metroid Prime four instead.
Speaker 1: I did not yet because I started Octopath Traveler zero
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Wish I had gotten around playing
Speaker 1: it before Game of the Year because I like that
Speaker 1: game a whole lot. In thirty five forty hours in now,
Speaker 1: nice game is way bigger than I thought it would be,
Speaker 1: but I'm liking it quite a bit. Did you guys
Speaker 1: play the first either the first two or both?
Speaker 3: Play the first one? Liked it?
Speaker 1: Okay, Mary, did you play either of them or which ones?
Speaker 1: Octopath Traveler.
Speaker 2: I played the first one and I loved it. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I didn't play the second one. I
Speaker 2: think it's just because I usually don't play turn Base.
Speaker 2: You have to really convince me in the first one.
Speaker 2: Everyone was like, you don't play this year, an idiot,
Speaker 2: since I played the first one and I like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stuff with the battlesystem that makes it like
Speaker 1: it's I've said this before, it's like crazy, how crunchy
Speaker 1: they made the combat even though it's turn based, like
Speaker 1: the response the feedback loop in that game is great
Speaker 1: both of those. I think two is really good, ironed
Speaker 1: out some storytelling problems that first had. However, Zero is
Speaker 1: different because you don't have eight characters. I think you
Speaker 1: can recruit a total of like thirty five ish, so
Speaker 1: it's more like the Sweekening games almost, and you have
Speaker 1: a town building aspect, which I think is kind of weak,
Speaker 1: but it's still fun, Like you have this home, big
Speaker 1: village you're going back to and rebuilding. And if you
Speaker 1: played ninokuney two that had a pretty in depth town
Speaker 1: building aspect as well. This is not on that level,
Speaker 1: but I like that you have this many characters to
Speaker 1: choose from. I'm very much like an xcom or State
Speaker 1: of Decay or Wildermith obviously fan of like more procedural
Speaker 1: j These are not procedurally generated characters, but I know
Speaker 1: the larger cast it absolutely loses focus. Where you used
Speaker 1: to have just the eight and you're kind of going
Speaker 1: through each chapter of their individual stories. That's not the
Speaker 1: case anymore. Now you're recruiting a bunch of people who
Speaker 1: kind of don't have that much of an arc. Once
Speaker 1: you recruit them, I think the storytelling becomes more about
Speaker 1: like how you use them and how you see them
Speaker 1: in your head can and et cetera. But also the
Speaker 1: combat you're using eight character. Your party is eight characters.
Speaker 1: You could swap people in and out. Of course in
Speaker 1: combat you're using all eight. You have a front and
Speaker 1: back line. Basically, there are certain abilities you could do
Speaker 1: from the back line, but you just swap them when
Speaker 1: it gets like you make one character and then they're
Speaker 1: always in the party. So I just like was I
Speaker 1: named mine Amanda like Amanda was watching, and I just
Speaker 1: kind of name her that. So when it gets to
Speaker 1: Amanda's turn, you could swap her with someone behind her.
Speaker 1: Once you get into the back line. At the end
Speaker 1: of the turn, they'll heal, they'll recover some health, and
Speaker 1: they also can't take damage generally speaking. So I think
Speaker 1: the downside there is it almost makes the game a
Speaker 1: bit too easy. There are definitely bosses I've gotten to
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, I'd need to grind a bit more,
Speaker 1: and there's plenty to do. It's a big world, so
Speaker 1: it's not It doesn't even usually feel like I'm kind
Speaker 1: of grinding needlessly. It's like, oh, there's other stuff to do.
Speaker 1: I'll come back to this guy but once you have eight,
Speaker 1: you can kind of beat many, many battles by just
Speaker 1: strength of numbers, having so many characters, and once a
Speaker 1: character gets low enough, I almost found like healing abilities
Speaker 1: kind of lose their luster because you could just swap
Speaker 1: them to the back line, and these healing abilities that
Speaker 1: these the support characters have, or the apothecaries or the clerics,
Speaker 1: what have you, those will heal more of their health
Speaker 1: than just being on the back line will. But again,
Speaker 1: you're more you're better off. I've found just like moving
Speaker 1: that character to the back line to heal and then
Speaker 1: using an offensive right, you.
Speaker 2: Can be constantly attacking as opposed to using one of
Speaker 2: your precious uh abilities yea to still Yeah, that could
Speaker 2: have been to attack.
Speaker 1: So I'm liking it quite a bit. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: thirty five hours in. I plan on beating it. It's long.
Speaker 1: I like, there's there's a Zelda esque moment where you
Speaker 1: you think you know the scope of the world, and
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, holy shit, that was just kind
Speaker 1: of like a prologue.
Speaker 2: IHS do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, And I was like, oh, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I want more of this game. It's the first game
Speaker 1: i've played in a while, and I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: kind of want to finish it now that I've seen
Speaker 1: most of the the expanse of it. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: liking it quite a bit. Like I said, this storytelling
Speaker 1: is not on part of the first two games, just
Speaker 1: by virtue of having way less focus because you have
Speaker 1: so many characters. But and that, Yeah, the city building
Speaker 1: is annoying because you can't unless I'm completely missing it,
Speaker 1: you can't rotate buildings, so you're building it all on
Speaker 1: that eight two what do they call it, HD two
Speaker 1: D two two D plane, So if you put a
Speaker 1: house in front of another one. They also don't make
Speaker 1: it transparent when you're behind it, so you have to
Speaker 1: like I can't find the door to the one behind
Speaker 1: it sometimes until I see the prompt come up. That
Speaker 1: the town building just feels like more kind of a
Speaker 1: side distraction me more than anything. But yeah, no, the
Speaker 1: combat's amazing, The world's great. The you know again, the
Speaker 1: combat can be kind of easy, but a lot of
Speaker 1: the boss design is great. They've got there's one they
Speaker 1: find really clever wrinkles, like one boss, will you get
Speaker 1: battle points? I think that's what BP stands for. If
Speaker 1: you played the first two. Those are the things you
Speaker 1: can save up and then charge up so you attack
Speaker 1: like four times. There's one boss where he will cast
Speaker 1: this orb on everybody and you you'll he'll steal whatever
Speaker 1: BP you have and you don't get them back until
Speaker 1: you stun him. Uh and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you get it back. So that was a cool wrinkle.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of stuff like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: generally I like this game quite a bit. It's definitely,
Speaker 1: like now one of my top ten games from last year.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk about it next year game of the Year,
Speaker 1: similar to Indiana Jones. But I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: If you're kind of put off by the idea of
Speaker 1: that many characters more like Sweeking in style then the
Speaker 1: first two games, I totally get that, and I think
Speaker 1: that's valid. But I'm still enjoying it even though a
Speaker 1: lot of the characters are kind of just like mannequins
Speaker 1: that happen to be really good at this thing or
Speaker 1: another in combat?
Speaker 2: Are there any standout characters? Like usually when I play
Speaker 2: games like this, they'll be like a character I'm like,
Speaker 2: I would die for her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ostia, I've done a one ad on. She's
Speaker 1: a carpenter at the beginning, and then she becomes like
Speaker 1: she's one of my go to characters in combat. She's
Speaker 1: a carpenter, so she has an ax and a knife,
Speaker 1: I believe, but she has a lot of supportability. She's
Speaker 1: got a bunch of like she's one of those characters
Speaker 1: like if you really deck her out, you can make
Speaker 1: her really powerful. I'm trying to remember what character from
Speaker 1: Expedition thirty three that reminds me of. I guess all
Speaker 1: of them if you build them right. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: they're definitely stand out characters in that game. I also
Speaker 1: quite like Celsius, Like he's like he's got throwing knives
Speaker 1: and he wears a trench coat and he's like the
Speaker 1: gambler or like the the ramblin gambling kind of like
Speaker 1: Bandit from X Men. He's not casun, but yeah, he's cool.
Speaker 1: Definitely stand out characters, but a lot of them are
Speaker 1: kind of faceless, but yeah, talked about Traveler zero is
Speaker 1: probably my focus for the foreseeable future before Metrod Prime
Speaker 1: four and then Silent Hill Aft, which I'm sure I'll
Speaker 1: play and I'll actually like more than Donkey Kong bananza
Speaker 1: now that we've argued about it.
Speaker 2: But telling me that now until Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm just excited about you know, Metrod Prime four. You've
Speaker 3: got to be excited after it swept all the game awards?
Speaker 2: Did it?
Speaker 3: M Oh yeah, game of the Year from like everyone
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember this happened.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you who did Giant Bump?
Speaker 3: Did you Giant Bomb fire Escape Game Awards? Kind of funny? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's still listed as controversial, like it
Speaker 2: still has like.
Speaker 3: Of all time or just the best game of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. That's the kind.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I don't get this bit. I'm just going are you
Speaker 1: joking that the game is not that good?
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that good? That's your opinion. I listened. I
Speaker 2: listened to the I can fucking this is entapman, I've
Speaker 2: watched I listened to the fucking Giant Bomb podcast, and
Speaker 2: nobody in Giant Bomb agrees with you.
Speaker 3: Look wait, did they really all agree Prime for is
Speaker 3: the best? At least Metroid Thank.
Speaker 2: You Jesus Christ. That is such a thousand twenty five bit.
Speaker 2: Get your get a new bit for.
Speaker 3: The new year fixed my mixer.
Speaker 1: Oh great, a new.
Speaker 2: Mixer to say that prime right, wasn't that good? And
Speaker 2: he didn't think it was that? Dan is right? Who's
Speaker 2: the other Nobody in the podcast agreed with you?
Speaker 1: That one? Was that?
Speaker 3: The dance right? You're right? Thanks? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Did you give me a right? Yeah? You correct, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. It doesn't Dan, He's just saying you're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, you're correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nobody say something insult and nobody Dan was wrong.
Speaker 2: Nobody on the Giant bomb agrees with him?
Speaker 3: What is it? What is it? Mike Manotti think I'll
Speaker 3: talk about the glitteris not that he's ever found one?
Speaker 2: Stupid? When I came to your house for this podcast,
Speaker 2: I should have broken that. Goddamn goddamn.
Speaker 1: It's agreed that the Mary's getting fucking they're making clips
Speaker 1: about Mary's quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Minatti being me.
Speaker 3: Thanks. I'm going to disnnect the scord call.
Speaker 1: See you do you have Mary's disagree?
Speaker 3: I've got the wave file somewhere. I don't have it
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He placed me with Minati doing my.
Speaker 1: Now yours is yours is im? Uh? What is the
Speaker 1: word I'm looking for yours is uh inimitable. The way
Speaker 1: your panic in your voice is saying and trying to
Speaker 1: talk to you, trying to go over yourself is so
Speaker 1: fucking good. Dan, do you want to rifle through some
Speaker 1: some of the things you dipped into? Yeah? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: never mind less witch too, which is fucking do we've
Speaker 1: Maine reporting for duty? Why is the fact he's on
Speaker 1: switch to is mine seventeen dollars?
Speaker 3: Which seems weird? That seems like too much?
Speaker 1: Too much? Also, why not eighteen or sixteen?
Speaker 3: We're twenty. I don't know, maybe it'sund sale, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I continue to love like timp Terorry was over here
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. We played on the Arcade. He
Speaker 3: liked it a lot. I got some codes and I
Speaker 3: gave one to Grub and I was like, implore you
Speaker 3: please play the out Foxies And he got back to
Speaker 3: he was like, oh, this is incredible. So remained to
Speaker 3: me one of my favorite games to just show people
Speaker 3: with no setup or anything. So h yeah, if you
Speaker 3: got seventeen eighteen bucks, you want to blow uh and
Speaker 3: you gotta switch check out the Yeah off to Smash
Speaker 3: Brothers in nineteen ninety four. It's the Namco game. It's
Speaker 3: basically Smash Brothers, like and you can be Dweeb. Tweeb
Speaker 3: is our character of the year the last five years.
Speaker 1: So I'm Ryan Fires Resident Maine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I have another one, uh oh, Sectary.
Speaker 3: I'm still playing the shit out of it, like that's
Speaker 3: my go to, Like I can't play it too close
Speaker 3: to bed because it's just like I'm gonna do the
Speaker 3: one more run thing until forever and then like like
Speaker 3: Bonks doing it too, and like BONKX told me about
Speaker 3: like oh yeah, when I was going to bed, I
Speaker 3: was thinking of like the shapes and everything, and then
Speaker 3: I had dreams about Sectoris. It is so one of
Speaker 3: those games and like end of that.
Speaker 2: What's your score? How's how's your score been going?
Speaker 3: Slightly bumped it up. I beat it again on the
Speaker 3: experienced diffic and I got like six million, three hundred
Speaker 3: something thousands, So I'm bumping it up, but like I
Speaker 3: have to move on to the next difficulty if I
Speaker 3: want to bump the score up, So like I'm all
Speaker 3: my runs now are on that challenging difficulty and it's hard,
Speaker 3: It's fucking real hard, but it's so fun. Like I'm
Speaker 3: dying all the time, but god damn it, it's so
Speaker 3: fun every second play in that game. So that is
Speaker 3: that is still a go to for me.
Speaker 2: I think the Loop is really amazing. It's so nice
Speaker 2: anytime you die, being like, I'm just going to start
Speaker 2: over again because it has a very simple premise and concept.
Speaker 2: Shoot everything, get your dash. I've really enjoyed chaos. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you have mixed up your cards.
Speaker 3: A lot, that is, you know what, I don't use
Speaker 3: that a lot. What does that do to sell me
Speaker 3: on it?
Speaker 2: So the deck system, because you're you're upgrading several things, right,
Speaker 2: you're getting the points that you can upgrade your ship,
Speaker 2: but you're also getting these yellow sparkly bits and then
Speaker 2: those give you a string of three cards. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: those are huge upgrades for you.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can get really lucky ones where the stuff
Speaker 2: floats to you. That's my favorite, where the collection where
Speaker 2: it's like not just the glimmer, but the objects will
Speaker 2: float to you fast like your upgrades.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: The tokens, Oh my god, I love when that shit
Speaker 2: happens because then you gotta go you don't gotta go
Speaker 2: find find them anyway. Those cards they're in a deck
Speaker 2: you can only have I think eight active anytime. There's
Speaker 2: like twenty cards in the game, dude, so you should
Speaker 2: be switching out your cards to see like different types
Speaker 2: of play styles. One of them is called chaos, and
Speaker 2: it truly is fucking chaotic. But one of my favorite
Speaker 2: things that chaos does is it lets you switch the
Speaker 2: order of your upgrades and it's it's random, So you
Speaker 2: could have blaster first. What Yeah, and so you just
Speaker 2: have this like crazy mega blaster that you're upgrading like
Speaker 2: four hundred times. But again it's random, so it might
Speaker 2: take your favorite and put it last. You don't know.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: That's why it's called chaos because you you basically like
Speaker 2: every time you play it, it's like shaking a snow
Speaker 2: globe and throwing you into it. You don't actually know
Speaker 2: if it's going to be good for you or not.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. Okay, I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Try k Car.
Speaker 2: What other cards do I like? There's just just like
Speaker 2: I like to kind of fuck with the card systems
Speaker 2: because again, it like completely changes the way you'll play
Speaker 2: if you are mixing up your different systems. I like
Speaker 2: removed defense because I don't want to buy shields with points.
Speaker 2: That's stupid. The whole point is for me to have
Speaker 2: lots of points.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I see you're saying, like, exchange a million
Speaker 3: points for two shields and want points.
Speaker 2: So so I got rid of that deck. I got
Speaker 2: rid of that card pack and added a different card pack.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, if you ever find yourself
Speaker 2: being like I don't like this set of cards, then
Speaker 2: remove it and add something else and see if you
Speaker 2: like a different card set better.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got to make that up because I have
Speaker 3: just been kind of like coasting on the same one forever.
Speaker 3: But you mentioned like the shield one, Like early on
Speaker 3: I would do the like like the first time I
Speaker 3: beat the game, I did the thing where it's like
Speaker 3: I'm going to use a million points to get shield,
Speaker 3: but like totally now I'm going for score and stuff
Speaker 3: and I'm sure I'm not going to get it if
Speaker 3: I'm buying stuff with it, So I'll take that off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to your card system. There's also I've been
Speaker 2: kind of messing around with the different play styles. Obviously
Speaker 2: there's the main play style, which is what we're all doing,
Speaker 2: the leader board one, but there's this one where the
Speaker 2: only way you can attack is using strike. Have you
Speaker 2: tried that?
Speaker 3: There's a different the other one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's different gameplay modes. These are not score
Speaker 2: bas these won't impact your global leader board status. It's
Speaker 2: probably not appealing to you, but I learned a lot
Speaker 2: playing Strike Mode because again, there's no blaster, the only
Speaker 2: way you can attack is strike, and all these enemies
Speaker 2: are coming at you. You'd be very wise about how
Speaker 2: you're utilizing your strike so you can constantly stay alive
Speaker 2: in Strike Mode's and I found that fun. So like,
Speaker 2: if you're is what I'll say is like, if you're like,
Speaker 2: I want to play it, but I can't play it
Speaker 2: before bed because I'll get like two addicted to it.
Speaker 2: It's like, play one of these stupid little modes, okay,
Speaker 2: because you can have fun with it for five ten minutes,
Speaker 2: but you won't get addicted to it because it's not
Speaker 2: the game at its core. It's not the game at
Speaker 2: its best, but you'll learn you'll learn something when you
Speaker 2: play these different modes about it, so it's always teaching
Speaker 2: you something about your ship or the way an enemy moves.
Speaker 2: So I found them fun.
Speaker 3: Okay, nice, Yeah, it continues to be just one of
Speaker 3: the best games theory.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It made it in my top ten at
Speaker 2: the very the very end of twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 2: I was like, this game is so addictive.
Speaker 3: Which everyone. You can read Mary's top games of the
Speaker 3: area on Giant bonmd dot com.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for inviting me to I love doing that
Speaker 2: every year. I always really debate the tenth game. It's
Speaker 2: very difficult because there's a lot of games I'd love
Speaker 2: to give a nod of the hat too. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of games that I really liked that just barely
Speaker 2: didn't make it. The reason I picked a game about
Speaker 2: digging a hole is because I really like to pay
Speaker 2: tribute to games that I don't think will be on
Speaker 2: other people's lists just because maybe they were fleeting. It
Speaker 2: was a fun time, but like it's that top ten material.
Speaker 2: And my response is is I want more people to
Speaker 2: know about some of these games, and so I put
Speaker 2: them on my top ten, hoping that someone would be
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't have bought it, but it was on
Speaker 2: someone's top ten. So like, I guess I should play
Speaker 2: a game about digging a hole, and you should buy
Speaker 2: a game about Digging a Hole Games four ninety nine.
Speaker 2: I think it's like so freaking cheap and it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really look at your list right now.
Speaker 2: There's a there's like a couple of randoms on there
Speaker 2: that I think people would be like, why would you
Speaker 2: put that on there? And it's like, because I guarantee
Speaker 2: you no one else is talking about it. But I
Speaker 2: think it'd be nice that other people like played some
Speaker 2: of those. But then there's some obvious ones on there too.
Speaker 2: You guys will never believe. Number one is Mega Bank.
Speaker 1: Did you play? Had you played Megabank before our Game
Speaker 1: of the Year? Im trying to remember if.
Speaker 2: I had, But I hadn't gotten really into it until
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. But I in the last couple
Speaker 2: before Christmas break, maybe two weeks before the end of
Speaker 2: the year, I got really into Megabank because you can
Speaker 2: watch TV or like be immersed in something else and
Speaker 2: be dedicated to Megabank. It allows you to have divided
Speaker 2: attention and still be quite entertaining. I also, I think
Speaker 2: it's the first time that a Vampire Survivor's clone I
Speaker 2: think is better than Vampire Survivors, And I think that's
Speaker 2: insane to say, but I think it's the first time
Speaker 2: that's happened for me.
Speaker 3: It's the closest. Yeah, yeah, I like Deep Married.
Speaker 1: Did you play Deep Rock Galactic? No, I don't don't
Speaker 1: worry about playing that. I was just asking curious because
Speaker 1: Deep Rock Survivor they did a Vampire Survivors alike. Check
Speaker 1: it out. The main thing there as you are also
Speaker 1: digging through material with your pickaxe. That's like their big wrinkle,
Speaker 1: but you're also upgrading each class individually. I like that
Speaker 1: game quite a bit. I still like Megabank way more,
Speaker 1: but Deep Rock Survivor, for whatever, I think it's like
Speaker 1: ten dollars or something on sale at certain points.
Speaker 2: Now of things like cheap, cheap games that are so entertaining.
Speaker 2: I went over to a girlfriend's house before Christmas and
Speaker 2: it was like pouring rain, so we didn't want to
Speaker 2: go to a bar. We were just like, whatever, we'll
Speaker 2: just sit at home. And she's a gamer, but I
Speaker 2: think she can get intimidated by games really quickly, and
Speaker 2: so I have to be thoughtful when I advise her
Speaker 2: to play something. It should be something where I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it if it's too intimidating. She'll quit.
Speaker 2: Megabank was the perfect recommendation. She was like, Oh, I
Speaker 2: don't know. All this stuff is coming at me, and
Speaker 2: I was like, it's an auto shooter girl, walk forward
Speaker 2: and prayed. All these little devices and do your best
Speaker 2: and pick it. Even if you pick them randomly, you
Speaker 2: can do quite well. And so it was like nice
Speaker 2: to watch her shine and enjoy a game without stressing
Speaker 2: about it too much. I think it it's stress free gaming,
Speaker 2: easy drinking. Yeah, it's just an easy experience.
Speaker 1: You're also playing skate story.
Speaker 2: This one surprised me. I did not expect that I
Speaker 2: would like this game as much as I did. I
Speaker 2: think I don't know who to recommend this to. It's
Speaker 2: part existential, part sick skating game. The existential part Mike,
Speaker 2: I think would appeal to you. Surprisingly very smart, very witty.
Speaker 2: It is about like the world and the mind and
Speaker 2: why we do the choices that we make. It feels
Speaker 2: so strangely written. This person was on acid. It's stunning,
Speaker 2: and the audio it's one of the best audio tracks
Speaker 2: of a game I've I've heard in a long time,
Speaker 2: and I was shocked with the quality and the caliber
Speaker 2: of this game. When ultimately you're just kickflipping dude, like
Speaker 2: you're just playing a skate game. And so Dan, I
Speaker 2: know you like Tony Hawk and you really like the
Speaker 2: original skating games. This is on drugs. I have to
Speaker 2: really stress that. What a strange fucking game this is.
Speaker 2: It took me at least two hours. The first two
Speaker 2: hours I was on the fence and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like it. It's just too weird, OK,
Speaker 2: And then it clicked for me. It did end up
Speaker 2: clicking for me. You have to get different upgrades. You
Speaker 2: could get stickers for your board. They put you on
Speaker 2: these pathways where there's spikes and things you have to
Speaker 2: jump over. But every time you do a sick flip
Speaker 2: or like a trick, you get extra bonus points that
Speaker 2: you get to spend in these stores. But then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it'll put you in this strange location
Speaker 2: and they'll be like a train going by and it'll
Speaker 2: be like, hey collected all the pieces to this area
Speaker 2: before you can move on, and every person you talk
Speaker 2: to it feels like you're in a dream and you're
Speaker 2: on drugs. It's it has moments where I'm just not
Speaker 2: sure that I'm on the same plane as everybody else
Speaker 2: when I'm playing this game, and then there's other times
Speaker 2: where I'm just playing some sick skating and I love it.
Speaker 2: I love both of it, but it I would say,
Speaker 2: if you buy this game, or if you're interested, give
Speaker 2: it three hours. Because the first couple I was like,
Speaker 2: it's too weird for me. And then and then it
Speaker 2: clicked and I actually I love it cool. I'm planning
Speaker 2: on being it. Yeah, I'm trying to think of like
Speaker 2: how it's really hard to describe, you guys. It's it's
Speaker 2: very ethereal and otherworldly. It's beautiful. It's usual style of
Speaker 2: your skater is awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Like I don't know, anytime I see a
Speaker 3: new skating game as coming out, I get excited because
Speaker 3: it's like, well, Tony Hawk is just you know, a
Speaker 3: part of my like daming history, like one of the
Speaker 3: biggest ones ever. And as I learn more about this
Speaker 3: and I heard people talk about it more, it seemed
Speaker 3: like this is not trying to be a Tony Hawk game.
Speaker 2: This is definitely not trying to be a Tony Hark or.
Speaker 3: Project different like totally different type of control scheme and
Speaker 3: structure and everything. So I did lose a little bit
Speaker 3: of my interest in playing it, but like, I know,
Speaker 3: i'd like the look of it, and I'm sure visual
Speaker 3: audio like it looks like a fantastic project. I just
Speaker 3: don't know if it's the skateboarding game I want, but yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe I just like shut that part out of my head.
Speaker 2: You know, it's probably not the skateboarding game that you
Speaker 2: would imagine. I'll describe something I liked about it. The
Speaker 2: boss fights are usually you have to accrue a certain
Speaker 2: amount of points, which you would do by doing sick flips,
Speaker 2: and only when you've accrued the right amount of points
Speaker 2: may you attack the boss. And so they'll be like
Speaker 2: maybe this snake, this like bone snake that's like going
Speaker 2: up and down. I'm gonna be like a serpent that's
Speaker 2: going like in and out of the sand or something.
Speaker 2: So you're like doing all these kick flips while chasing
Speaker 2: it so that when you get to it, you've accrued
Speaker 2: enough points that you could attack it. So it's making
Speaker 2: you combine skating fast, doing cool tricks, chasing an enemy,
Speaker 2: and attacking the enemy in this smooth, seamless motion, all
Speaker 2: to a sick beat. Again, the music is incredible and
Speaker 2: so I do think it's important to listen to this
Speaker 2: game fully. There was this other sequence with moons. I
Speaker 2: had to chase these red glowing moons while dodging spikes
Speaker 2: while doing sick flips so that I could attack the moons.
Speaker 2: It was neat. It's a really neat experience. I do
Speaker 2: think it's worth playing. But yeah, it ain't no Tony Hawk.
Speaker 2: It's very different.
Speaker 1: What is death Hell?
Speaker 2: Okay, death Hell might be one for you, Mike. Death
Speaker 2: Howell is a what do you call those turn based
Speaker 2: where you have a grid and your mom your kid
Speaker 2: has died, and you are going into the woods to
Speaker 2: bring your child back from death. You're essentially fighting death itself,
Speaker 2: which I think is cool. It's a deck builder, so
Speaker 2: you use the cards to choose your moves to attack
Speaker 2: the different animals in this fore I'm the animal. I'm
Speaker 2: in the forest right now, and so I'm like attacking
Speaker 2: different animals with my cards. Every time you kill an animal,
Speaker 2: it does drop an item, and then you use the
Speaker 2: items to build more cards and grow your deck. Gorgeous
Speaker 2: art style, very beautiful, different characters, weird fucked up animals
Speaker 2: that you fight. I like the premise of it as well.
Speaker 2: You're like, I like that game one. I thought it.
Speaker 2: I think it's very well done. I usually don't go
Speaker 2: for grid style games like this. It takes one in
Speaker 2: a million for me to be like this one's for me.
Speaker 2: But I have enjoyed the deck building aspect of it.
Speaker 2: I think I will keep going. I've only put three
Speaker 2: or four hours into it so far, but I'll probably
Speaker 2: keep playing it. I think it's it's a beautiful aesthetic
Speaker 2: and I like the story of like trying to like
Speaker 2: get my child back from death. So yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: Cool, Yeah, I want to check it out. Dan, anything
Speaker 1: else you've been playing Terminator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it seems like a game that's made for me.
Speaker 3: It's very throwback, you know, sixteen bit shooter arcade style gameplay.
Speaker 3: Terminator two, very very faithful to the movie, and very
Speaker 3: much trying to just replicate the pretty much all the
Speaker 3: iconic scenes of the movie. So it's like all these
Speaker 3: things I love. I appreciate what they were trying to
Speaker 3: do here. But it's one of the only times I
Speaker 3: actually wrote a review of this. Because we were all
Speaker 3: in an Airbnb and Mike NAUGHTI was making everyone watch
Speaker 3: the Cats movie, and I wanted an excuse to not
Speaker 3: watch the Cats movie.
Speaker 2: So are you of the musical that's correct with the buttholes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you watched the butthole Cats movie and made everyone
Speaker 3: watch it, and I was like, oh, I will write
Speaker 3: a review instead of it. Ironically, it's Mike, so probably not.
Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny. I don't actually even know
Speaker 2: I asked that question. Either way, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I think.
Speaker 2: That that movie's cool. Seriously, that's weird. And if you
Speaker 2: think that it's a good joke to make people watch
Speaker 2: cats that you can see their little cgi buttholes, that's
Speaker 2: also weird.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So as a consummate professional, I decided like, no,
Speaker 3: you know, sure, this is a ten PM and we're
Speaker 3: all doing recreation time, but no, I will write a
Speaker 3: review for giant bomb dot com to escape that. It's
Speaker 3: I've have a two point five out of five, and
Speaker 3: I've I don't know if I've ever factored in length
Speaker 3: of a game and price of a game into a
Speaker 3: score of a game, but I kind of felt like
Speaker 3: I had to here because it was a thirty dollars
Speaker 3: game at launch. I'm not sure if that's where it
Speaker 3: is right now, and I beat it for the first
Speaker 3: time in forty six minutes, and there are a couple
Speaker 3: decisions you can make when you go through it, and
Speaker 3: it's like very you know, simplistic arcade style gameplay. I
Speaker 3: beat it the second time in like thirty something minutes,
Speaker 3: and you know, there's not really variety or progression or anything.
Speaker 3: It's a it's definitely a leve letter Terminator two in
Speaker 3: that era of action games. But like, I just can't
Speaker 3: believe it was thirty dollars for that length. I mean,
Speaker 3: you blow through it immediately. Yeah, it's Look, if you
Speaker 3: ever see it on sale for you know, fifteen dollars
Speaker 3: or less or something like that, maybe check it out
Speaker 3: if you're a big Terminator fan. But yeah, not not exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I was looking for, but this,
Speaker 3: this didn't quite do it for me.
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, I want to play five minutes death
Speaker 1: hell and maybe yeah, sorry, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm glad there's a couple winners in there.
Speaker 1: I'm still catch up on last year's games.
Speaker 2: I know it's hard, like there was a backlog that
Speaker 2: I was planning on, but this is just the gamer's
Speaker 2: fallacy in general, is that like when you have two
Speaker 2: weeks and you're like, I could do whatever I want. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a game from my childhood. You just like,
Speaker 2: don't how did this happen?
Speaker 3: Oops?
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to talk about emails? Okay? Or
Speaker 1: did you did I get everything? Dan? I think you
Speaker 1: you got them? Am I missing something? Oh?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 1: Your face? You look like I forgot something.
Speaker 2: That's just his face.
Speaker 1: Oh that's your just face. You just look concerned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, concerned man.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's talk about emails. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: as usual, you can write into fire scip cast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. In fact, get those coffers full for
Speaker 1: this year, write in some questions, give us some ammunition
Speaker 1: for the next several episodes. It's fire scip cast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Get your questions read on the air
Speaker 1: or ignored. Or you could be really critical of us,
Speaker 1: uh and submit a complaint and then uh be really
Speaker 1: rude about it, and then several days later Colin saying
Speaker 1: you were under duress. I hope you're okay. That one
Speaker 1: person who did that knows what I'm talking about. I
Speaker 1: hope you're fine.
Speaker 3: It just seems specific.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just a funny one too. Email I
Speaker 1: saw in the inbox someone's very rude and then was like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 1: I was. I was actually they said they were under
Speaker 1: medical dress, and I hope they okay, are okay, but.
Speaker 2: I think you're okay too.
Speaker 1: They might have just been drunk emailing us. It's also.
Speaker 3: Regardless.
Speaker 2: I would say, the ability to come back via email
Speaker 2: and say like takes his backsies takes a big person.
Speaker 3: I always thought it was interesting where it's like this
Speaker 3: happened mostly a game informherre, where like I would do
Speaker 3: a review or something that people very much didn't agree
Speaker 3: with and I'd get an email be like fuck you,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fuck like sometimes it was death threat. Sometimes
Speaker 3: it was just like oh you fucking so you don't
Speaker 3: deserve your job all this stuff, and I would respond
Speaker 3: and I would just be like, hey, okay, no, I
Speaker 3: like this game, right, I didn't like this game. Sorry
Speaker 3: you didn't feel the same way, but you know, thanks
Speaker 3: for reading or whatever, And every fucking time they would
Speaker 3: come back and be like I'm sorry, I'm an asshole,
Speaker 3: like just talking like a per and then just totally.
Speaker 2: Like I think sometimes it's like a gamer. I wonder
Speaker 2: if it's I wonder if it's gamers. I wonder if
Speaker 2: it's like that happens in my industry a lot where
Speaker 2: someone will say something pretty intense and I will say,
Speaker 2: I hear you. Here's like, here's the boundaries that I
Speaker 2: have within like what I do and what I'm allowed
Speaker 2: to do, and that person will completely normally will change
Speaker 2: their tune and be like, oh my god, like that
Speaker 2: would be so difficult to be in your position. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I know, but you didn't think that. I think you
Speaker 2: wanted to kill me two tweets ago. But now it's like,
Speaker 2: I think you have to remember the human. You have
Speaker 2: to like remind people. Even the idea that humans can
Speaker 2: make mistakes. It seems like impossible, the idea of like
Speaker 2: you can actually I don't know if it's like the
Speaker 2: same with like writing review but like for like larger websites,
Speaker 2: like we've done things where we, like, you know, we've
Speaker 2: been like, oh, maybe we should change that rule. Doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like that rule makes sense and everyone will be like,
Speaker 2: well it was wrong, and they'll be like yes, but
Speaker 2: we're people, so we're allowed to We're allowed to make
Speaker 2: a rule and then and then figure out that it
Speaker 2: actually doesn't work globally, there's like some kind of issue
Speaker 2: with it, so we'll change it. Isn't that crazy that
Speaker 2: people can make mistakes?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always thinking about It's the tenor of online conversation.
Speaker 3: And so, like a few weeks ago, I deactivated my
Speaker 3: Blue Sky and because, like you know, because I've always
Speaker 3: We've talked about plenty on this. It's like I'm always
Speaker 3: trying to kind of back off of, you know, social
Speaker 3: media and stuff, just because I did increasingly terrible and everything,
Speaker 3: and you know, get off Twitter and stuff because you know,
Speaker 3: the Nazis, uh. And then it went to Blue Sky,
Speaker 3: built that up for a bit, and you know, it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, it's a good way to keep in
Speaker 3: touch with people. But also there it was very much
Speaker 3: that like extremely school marm type of just like super
Speaker 3: taking everything seriously. Everything was just the biggest, most important
Speaker 3: controversy in the world and stuff. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 3: just fucking exhausting. So it's like, I'll probably go back
Speaker 3: at some point. It's funny I deactivated it, and I
Speaker 3: saw people were saying like, oh, it must be like
Speaker 3: people are really mad about the metrod Prime. Were you
Speaker 3: or that you introduced you know, half stars for the job.
Speaker 3: I thought everybody.
Speaker 2: Loved metroid Prime and there was no controversy about metroc Prime.
Speaker 3: Controversy was that they thought I didn't love it enough. Yeah,
Speaker 3: how good it was.
Speaker 2: It's old echo chamber Dan.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know. It's like I went out.
Speaker 3: It's been like three weeks or so, and I haven't
Speaker 3: done it, and it's like this just feels like it's
Speaker 3: not something like revelation, like oh, life is better and
Speaker 3: the clouds are more vivid or it's not that, it's
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I don't miss it, so like I'm
Speaker 3: not like itching to go back anytime soon. And like
Speaker 3: Instagram is just like fucking easy, and it's pictures of
Speaker 3: my friends. I don't have any algorithm. I don't know,
Speaker 3: want any feed I don't have. Yeah, the point well,
Speaker 3: you know even snooze the uh suggested feat stuff, so
Speaker 3: like you literally don't have an algorithm, Like I don't
Speaker 3: see anything that isn't just a picture from a friend
Speaker 3: of mine, So like there's no just random accounts or
Speaker 3: anything that show put in my feed. So god damn it. It
Speaker 3: feels great, especially talking to people now where it's like
Speaker 3: everyone'speeds are getting filled up with like obvious AI videos
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Oh what a brutal time to like always question and
Speaker 2: when you see a video or photo if it's real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like I don't want any fucking part
Speaker 3: of that. I hate all that shit, And like stepping
Speaker 3: back has just been like a universal positive. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, might stay off longer than maybe I intended to,
Speaker 3: but yeah, not a fan.
Speaker 2: It's been a nice break for me as well. I
Speaker 2: also took a social media break over. It's hard for
Speaker 2: you to get out of everything. I usually stay on
Speaker 2: Instagram Stories, which is the safest for me because it's
Speaker 2: human most of the time. But yeah, I got rid
Speaker 2: of Twitter, Blue Sky, anything possibly work adjacent, because even
Speaker 2: if I'm on vacation, if I'm on like Reddit, livestream fail,
Speaker 2: I'm working, so like, I really have to avoid anything
Speaker 2: that will show me things that will make me think
Speaker 2: about work. So yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, check in the woods. I'd love you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go work in a vineyard and you'll never
Speaker 1: see me again. Yeah that all sounds great, right then
Speaker 1: you two, you two won't see me either. That's what's
Speaker 1: great great great pass at gmail dot com. You heard
Speaker 1: your nerds married? Do you want to read this first
Speaker 1: one from mac Kyle? Yes?
Speaker 2: How do you fire? Folks? I like that?
Speaker 1: Do you so much stuff?
Speaker 2: Firefolks? We can't all hate everything. Do you heavily associate
Speaker 2: a band or album with a video game? I recall
Speaker 2: listening to Lamb of God's album Sacrament when Halo three
Speaker 2: came out, and now two are inseparable in my mind.
Speaker 2: Kyle uh Maclamore from Florida. PS Dan, please become governor
Speaker 2: of Florida. You would be so much better than what
Speaker 2: we have now. I know you could. That's terrifying.
Speaker 3: I generally don't like to listen to music when I
Speaker 3: play games, just because I like to listen to like
Speaker 3: what the game designers wanted me to hear. But there
Speaker 3: are exceptions, like the one that I always think about
Speaker 3: is NFL Blitz. I was obsessed with that during you know,
Speaker 3: the sixty four one that came out or that came
Speaker 3: out with a couple but there I don't even know
Speaker 3: if there is music in that. But like I always,
Speaker 3: I had my first like CD player boombox, and I
Speaker 3: bought a Jimmy Hendrick's greatest hits that I would listen
Speaker 3: to while I played Blitz, But then the main one
Speaker 3: was the soundtrack to The Rock, the movie The Rock.
Speaker 3: So it's like all these like Hans Zimmer tracks and
Speaker 3: stuff like Humble Gets the Rockets, like these super duper
Speaker 3: dramatic tracks and everything, while I'm like returning a kickoff
Speaker 3: and like, so most of my Blitz time was with
Speaker 3: the Rock soundtrack.
Speaker 1: The one that comes to mind. This is not technically
Speaker 1: answering the question, but he mentioned Halo three, and also
Speaker 1: this reminded me. Do you remember Halo two on the
Speaker 1: mission the Heretic, when all of a sudden, Breaking Benjamin
Speaker 1: just starts playing as part of the soundtrack.
Speaker 2: No, oh, it's like in the game.
Speaker 1: I am not convey to you how fucking cool I
Speaker 1: thought it was when I was first playing Halo two,
Speaker 1: and now looking back, I'm like, hey, Breaking Benjamin, I
Speaker 1: don't like at all. I don't know what they're doing
Speaker 1: these days, but I don't like their pre existing music.
Speaker 1: B It's just all of a sudden, like a full
Speaker 1: on like with lyrics comes on while you're chasing, while
Speaker 1: you're the Arbiter and you're chasing the heretic other Elite.
Speaker 1: That's like betraying the Covenant. It's crazy, look like a
Speaker 1: blow me away by breaking Badgemin Halo two. It's just
Speaker 1: in the game, Like it's a cool idea, like in
Speaker 1: any game, just having an actual soundtrack, like license music
Speaker 1: laid over. It's not the first time that's happened, but.
Speaker 3: They were trying that, like around that era with like
Speaker 3: Prince of Persia Warrior Within and like Godsmack coming in
Speaker 3: and certain yes.
Speaker 1: That was the exact shit, and I can't I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that did not become a moral thing.
Speaker 3: It's more thoughtful. I think, like you know, Red Dead
Speaker 3: and stuff like that would do the thing where it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: this is very thoughtful and bespoke and everything. But then
Speaker 3: it was like we got trapped to do a thing
Speaker 3: for yeah whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh you mentioned NFL Blitz. Also, I think I've talked
Speaker 1: about this on the said before, but when I discovered
Speaker 1: that NFL Street two on Xbox allowed you to swap
Speaker 1: the soundtrack out for your Xbox.
Speaker 3: NP three, the hard drive stuff, yeah.
Speaker 1: The hard drive music. So there I am playing NFL
Speaker 1: Street to listening to the Blood of Cuckolan from Boondock
Speaker 1: Saints playing like the bagpipes dork.
Speaker 3: It was weird.
Speaker 1: I was the coolest kid ever. I was like sixteen,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it's like the intro song to
Speaker 1: Boondock Saints like is playing while I'm just like trying
Speaker 1: to fruit Ladanian Tomlinson to my yeah, to my team. Oh.
Speaker 1: It was such a fucking cool I got laid so much.
Speaker 2: Symbolisms, symbolisms, symbolism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were the right games. So like NFL Street
Speaker 3: Burnout three on Xbox you could do the hard drive,
Speaker 3: so so I like I hated all the like pop
Speaker 3: punk shit they put on the initial soundtrack, so it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'll just make like a fun like metal
Speaker 3: and rock soundtrack or whatever. That was an interesting time when
Speaker 3: the original Xbox and the three sixty, Like the three
Speaker 3: sixty oh just plug in an iPod and you can
Speaker 3: play whatever. And then the original one you had like
Speaker 3: rip it to a hard drive, like I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess you could do that now by opening up like
Speaker 3: a Spotify app or something like that. But it was
Speaker 3: definitely like a more important thing than those early Xboxes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of mine the songs are in the game,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if this is Yeah, like Mike
Speaker 2: was saying, like this might not be exactly what this
Speaker 2: is asking for, because these are like albums that are
Speaker 2: connected to games that you've concocted. But for me playing
Speaker 2: sled Storm as a kid and hearing Rob Zombies Dragoula
Speaker 2: in it, oh yeah, is embedded in my mind and
Speaker 2: anytime me and my sisters, we all because we all
Speaker 2: played this game, we all love it. Every time that
Speaker 2: song comes on, we'll be like Web sled Storm. We'd
Speaker 2: be like ew in the bits in the Herd and
Speaker 2: the best of the damn and the best of your drag.
Speaker 2: We don't know any of the fun lyrics. We don't
Speaker 2: know what we're talking about, but we know we know Sledstorm.
Speaker 2: We know that fucking song and it's so good.
Speaker 3: Snowmobiling Mike, Mike gets another e a big like NFL
Speaker 3: Street is a sports They needed to bring that back game,
Speaker 3: NFL Street, NBA Street, Sledstorm freak style. Yeah the fuck
Speaker 3: do we know?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I played NBA Street one so much.
Speaker 3: They're perfect games, and I just I would.
Speaker 1: Use all my uh all my points from I would
Speaker 1: defer recruiting a new character so i'd get more creative
Speaker 1: player points for my player, and he was like seven.
Speaker 1: He's basically Victor woman Yama. He's like seven to eleven,
Speaker 1: best three shooter in the game, best dunker, did all
Speaker 1: the tricks, and his nickname was Red Alert.
Speaker 3: No, I think I did like NBA Street Volume two,
Speaker 3: where I swear I had a team that was like
Speaker 3: a yetti that you could unlock, and the Beastie Boys.
Speaker 3: They were really good video games. Yep, they're awesome, and
Speaker 3: they fucked. They don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: The other one that I think is worth mentioning because
Speaker 2: I did into becoming a huge fan of this band
Speaker 2: post this game is Portal Too. Had a song Exile
Speaker 2: by the National Yeah, and I went to I like
Speaker 2: started getting their albums. I've been to multiple National concerts
Speaker 2: since this time. I have seen the National live. I
Speaker 2: love them, and when I watched them live, I have
Speaker 2: one very specific concert memory where the lead singer said,
Speaker 2: my younger brother played Portal and told me how cool
Speaker 2: it was, and it's really neat that this song is
Speaker 2: now a part of this game series because my brother
Speaker 2: likes it, and I thought that was like so fucking
Speaker 2: cool that I like saw the connection and how they
Speaker 2: got there. But I can't listen to that song without
Speaker 2: thinking of Portal, without thinking of the National. It is
Speaker 2: like those are interconnected forever.
Speaker 1: For me. Jake hates the National, So don't he.
Speaker 2: Gave me his sad dad's tea shirt.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna get the hat he gave me the
Speaker 1: sad Dad's happen. It's dark and Amanda sleeping.
Speaker 2: Why does he keep giving away his sad dad's material?
Speaker 1: I don't know. But it's a band.
Speaker 2: I walked down the street with it the other day
Speaker 2: and someone stopped me and said, what is a sad Dad?
Speaker 2: And I said, this is a really weird answer, but
Speaker 2: it's a band, and he went, oh, it's disappointed that
Speaker 2: it wasn't like the unsocial anti social social club. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like some I've never understood what the fuck that
Speaker 2: was anti social social club.
Speaker 3: I've seen that on shirts and hoodies and stuff for
Speaker 3: like marketing. Is it just a clothing company?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it's just a cool like it's a funny
Speaker 2: like concept, right of like it's a club for people
Speaker 2: who can't be social, but it's it's marketing, right, it's
Speaker 2: a brand and yeah, and then sad dads. I think
Speaker 2: the concept, right is like people who sussessed the National
Speaker 2: are a bunch of sad dads. Like they're just people
Speaker 2: who are sad.
Speaker 1: It's jokingly called not jokingly, it's called like sad dad music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Last of Us music. No, that's like
Speaker 3: a sad dad game, right sure, yeah, yeah, it's the
Speaker 3: game version of the or the music version of the
Speaker 3: Last of Us.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, okay, gotcha, Dead dads, but being sad
Speaker 1: about stuff that's not really that important, Like just we're
Speaker 1: sad like the whirl, isn't it Just like we're sad
Speaker 1: and we're gonna it's part of our aesthetic.
Speaker 3: Doesn't be fun.
Speaker 2: We're dads. We're listening to the National.
Speaker 1: I had a kid and I'm sad about it.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, thank you Kyle from Florida. Uh, Danielle,
Speaker 1: can you read this one?
Speaker 3: That's me? Uh hello Escapees. Lately, whenever I start a
Speaker 3: new game, I like to look for one cool asset
Speaker 3: that I would like to say I created. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like being an extra in a movie, so you
Speaker 3: can tell your friends that you were zombie number twelve
Speaker 3: When you come on screen for half a secon second.
Speaker 3: Recent exam include Blue Prince's cute hamster in the Kid's
Speaker 3: Bedroom and Gail the polecat from Haites two. What is
Speaker 3: the thing in a game that you would like to
Speaker 3: cameo design? Thanks for being a great time every other week. Also,
Speaker 3: Dan is right about Missouri love John Paul from Missouri.
Speaker 2: You know which Missouri opinion?
Speaker 3: All, it's just a garbe. It's the worst state by far.
Speaker 3: It's like, not even close. It's irredeemable. Yeah, like your team, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's awful in every way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have one for this. The sushi in Resident
Speaker 1: Evil six, you know I'm talking about in the Leon
Speaker 1: and Helena campaign when you're going through the university. If
Speaker 1: you look at just google Google Red Alert six food
Speaker 1: or sushi, the assets they use for the food is
Speaker 1: were like the And I know, I realize how what
Speaker 1: I'm saying when I say it's one of the worst
Speaker 1: aspects of that game. The food on the tables just
Speaker 1: does not like the sushi rolls are the size of cakes.
Speaker 1: It's the worst food asset I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing any images of this. Oh wait, oh wait,
Speaker 3: that looks fucking crazy. Okay, I am seeing now. Oh
Speaker 3: that is nuts looking. Okay, yeah, it's crazy. That game
Speaker 3: sucks ass.
Speaker 1: Mary and I tried liking it pretty hard.
Speaker 2: So are you saying you would want to do it
Speaker 2: to fix it or you want to be responsible.
Speaker 1: I want to be responsible for that. I want to
Speaker 1: say I made that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say that I made this trash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do. But then on the cool, like
Speaker 1: on the cool side of things, I don't know. The
Speaker 1: thing I wish I created is probably what's like a
Speaker 1: cool Zelda item.
Speaker 3: The box that windmil guy wax off into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to make it. I would love
Speaker 1: to be responsible for making the windmill Guy's dick.
Speaker 2: I actually designed his penis. You can't see it because
Speaker 2: it's in.
Speaker 3: The box, But I give you no clip. Through the
Speaker 3: box you can see his dick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, no clip.
Speaker 2: It's actually Mike's face.
Speaker 1: More like GDD good game is done, dick stupid? Ah,
Speaker 1: it's serious day, I'm tired. Yeah, no, the music box great,
Speaker 1: not his dick.
Speaker 3: I I like in Meddle Year Solid two, there's a
Speaker 3: part where you're going around a corner and it looks
Speaker 3: like Vulcan Raven a boss from the first game looks
Speaker 3: like a shadows on the wall and say, what the hell,
Speaker 3: he's dead. But then he turned the corner and it's
Speaker 3: just a tiny little Vulcan raven action figure with a
Speaker 3: flashlight next to it, so it makes a huge silhouette.
Speaker 3: And then if you shoot it, it starts like like
Speaker 3: a little motor starts up and it shoots little pellets out,
Speaker 3: and if you just watch it for a while, like
Speaker 3: all the pellets kind of pile up. And I thought
Speaker 3: that was such a fun little thing in that game,
Speaker 3: So that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I have another idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Rocket League toppers to cars, I feel like
Speaker 2: you could easily they have custom ones. I think you
Speaker 2: can make your I think at this point you can
Speaker 2: upload your owns. This is probably like a no, but
Speaker 2: I think it would be cool to make my own
Speaker 2: custom car skin that everybody and I could be like
Speaker 2: those are mine, Like those are my custom car skins
Speaker 2: of really something really stupid. You know, it would have
Speaker 2: to be. I mean they're already kind of dumb, So like,
Speaker 2: what would I make that I would say is mine?
Speaker 2: I interpreted this as something I would make. It'd be
Speaker 2: like this is so cool.
Speaker 3: When Rocket League first came out before it like it
Speaker 3: was like blowing up and stuff. They had the different
Speaker 3: skins and stuff. They had a couple like I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's licensed or just like other ip from
Speaker 3: other games or whatever. And I think I reached out
Speaker 3: to the Rocket League team because I've just written air
Speaker 3: Force Gater and I told them like, hey, look, if
Speaker 3: you want air Force Gator, I'll give it to you
Speaker 3: for free.
Speaker 2: You always shoot, shoot your shot, Dan, I.
Speaker 3: Didn't get an air Force Gater flag in that No.
Speaker 2: Damn damn. Game Spot had a flag and I remember
Speaker 2: we thought that was really fucking cool. Yeah, really that
Speaker 2: was like a flex us back in the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, GameSpot would get that. Destructoid used to be pretty
Speaker 3: good about getting They had their like little robot guy
Speaker 3: and they were in this game Rascals And was like,
Speaker 3: oh man, what a cool idea, like getting new shit
Speaker 3: in a game. Always like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be neat, Like I know they had.
Speaker 2: They just had hats that I think were funny, like
Speaker 2: they had cone toppers and toppers that was like a
Speaker 2: Mariacci hat. And I'd love to be like I gave
Speaker 2: them the idea for all these toppers.
Speaker 3: You know, do you know what I actually am responsible for.
Speaker 3: I hadn't thought of this in a while. And Saints
Speaker 3: Row three, there is a weapon called a fart and
Speaker 3: a Jar and it's a grenade, so it's basically it's
Speaker 3: an equippable thing that you can equip with the other grenades.
Speaker 3: So there's like stun grenades, normal grenades, and there's a
Speaker 3: fart in a jar and that's in there because that
Speaker 3: was my first game and former cover story I wrote.
Speaker 3: It was like twenty ten or something and I was
Speaker 3: at the studio and I asked them when I was
Speaker 3: interviewing the team, I was like, all right, what's an idea? Like,
Speaker 3: obviously Saints Row is all about super over the top,
Speaker 3: super stupid shit. What is something that you all deemed
Speaker 3: that was too stupid for Saints Row? And they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: we I had this idea once where it's gonna be
Speaker 3: like a fart in a jar and you'd throw it
Speaker 3: and it's like would get all stinky and everybody would
Speaker 3: start vomiting if you threw it, and we took it
Speaker 3: out it was too stupid, And I was like, whoa,
Speaker 3: hold the phone, No, you have to like this is like, well,
Speaker 3: before the game came out and it's like, you have
Speaker 3: to put the fart in a jar in that game.
Speaker 3: That is fantastic.
Speaker 2: So you motivated them to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like the first person outside of the
Speaker 3: studio to play the game. And also I was telling
Speaker 3: him like, you are mad if you don't put the
Speaker 3: fart in the jar in the game, and they wound
Speaker 3: up putting it back.
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. That's a good story. It's a good loredan.
Speaker 2: I thought when you were I thought when you were Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is the fart in the jar. Yeah, it's his fart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've moke, Captain.
Speaker 2: There's like all these ping pong balls on your butt.
Speaker 3: I farted into a jar and they captured the jar.
Speaker 2: I smell, Captain, that's fucking vile.
Speaker 1: You're still would not convince your dad that you're a
Speaker 1: performer if you smell capping.
Speaker 3: No, that's not acting. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually he might respect that more than voice acting.
Speaker 2: Smell. Yeah, I'm an actor too. I farted in a
Speaker 2: jar for Saints Row three. Yeah, I hate so many
Speaker 2: beans that day.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you is the name he is.
Speaker 2: Speaking of spellcasting, I had asparagus for dinner tonight and
Speaker 2: I I don't understand it. How does it happen? My
Speaker 2: pee smells weird? And it's like a phenomenon. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's a joke, it's a running gag,
Speaker 2: but it's true and it happens, and I can't stop
Speaker 2: thinking about it.
Speaker 1: It'll look up.
Speaker 3: It's a gene. It's a thing where it's like some
Speaker 3: people have it, some people don't. Don't.
Speaker 2: What do you mean to smell it or to pee it?
Speaker 3: That's a great question, like if I didn't have the
Speaker 3: smell Jean, wait, okay? What am I? Okay?
Speaker 1: It says not everyone produces or detects the smell due
Speaker 1: to genetic differences in metabolism or smell perception.
Speaker 3: So could you have the the detection gene? So I
Speaker 3: can smell asparagus piss but not producing. So I can
Speaker 3: eat a gallon it's not a gallon whatever, but juice,
Speaker 3: but I can't smell it.
Speaker 1: You would wait, no, I get you would. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: produce it. You would you would be you would be
Speaker 1: like bent over the toilet bowl smelling, but you wouldn't
Speaker 1: smell anything.
Speaker 3: Could I smell it but not produce it. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 3: I could. Could I pee out.
Speaker 2: A bunch of I smell your p and be like
Speaker 2: this guy had asparagus, right, Yeah, yeah, it's distinct smell.
Speaker 3: I would know we all have have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. No, I've said that before.
Speaker 3: This is a weird.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that in that way out of context.
Speaker 2: But this guy loves to sniff his own piss.
Speaker 1: There's some very there's something very reassuring. God, I'm just
Speaker 1: digging myself, keep going. There's something very reassuring about putting something,
Speaker 1: ingesting something and seeing that it actually affected your body
Speaker 1: in a certain way.
Speaker 2: I've changed my answer. Mike is the most predictable of
Speaker 2: the tea.
Speaker 3: In fact, speaking of predictable, Jake, now, edit in the
Speaker 3: discussion Mary and I had during the break when Mike
Speaker 3: was gone about the asparagus beat, and let's see how
Speaker 3: predictable he was.
Speaker 2: I just went to the bathroom and I had asparaus
Speaker 2: for dinner, and my peace smells. It's crazy, such a why.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm let's test something here. When we come back
Speaker 3: and we start recording, say that, and I bet Mike
Speaker 3: is going to talk about how much he loves that
Speaker 3: smell and he's going to be something like, oh man,
Speaker 3: I'll pee in the toilet and I'll put my head
Speaker 3: in there. And because I feel like it's come up
Speaker 3: several times since I've known him, and he always says that,
Speaker 3: So let's just test this.
Speaker 2: Why does he say that he likes it? You gasoline thing?
Speaker 1: What did I say?
Speaker 4: You think?
Speaker 3: And I was like bringing up on the podcast. I
Speaker 3: guarantee he's gonna be Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it A dirty little sparagus boy, I fucking
Speaker 1: I don't even like asparagus. I eat it specifically so
Speaker 1: my pe will smell. It's a curse. I just gobbling
Speaker 1: down those stocks every morning. So then by lunchtime I
Speaker 1: get those sweet sweet odors wafting up out of the bowl.
Speaker 2: Right O, Saints row free tip asparagus pain in a jar.
Speaker 2: It boosts the moral of your team.
Speaker 1: Smell cap that ship.
Speaker 2: I'll be run faster. Yeah, so much of your smell
Speaker 2: call count my pe.
Speaker 3: You're gobbling up those stocks in the morning, is all
Speaker 3: he said. Oh the idea of the alarm going off
Speaker 3: and it's like Rocky with the eggs, but just spar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I falls sleep with the entire thing
Speaker 1: and then was off and I just bite down the
Speaker 1: next morning.
Speaker 3: Picture of Homer with one hundred cigarettes in his mouth.
Speaker 3: But it's just my.
Speaker 1: God. Now I wish I'm gonna eat some after this.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sick. Wake up a little coffee in
Speaker 1: the morning, nice little whiz.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, actually really quick? Did you know that in all
Speaker 1: SaaS France every April they have pop up restaurants that
Speaker 1: literally just only open in April dedicated to asparagus.
Speaker 3: How much can you do with that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, you could do quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Doesn't asparagus take three years to grow? Or some weird shit?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Might oh, I will say, I know.
Speaker 1: I truly do like asparagus a lot white. Have you
Speaker 1: had white asparagus? We had it. It was in season
Speaker 1: when we were in France in June a few years ago.
Speaker 1: When we had it, everywhere someone had a different take
Speaker 1: on it was fucking awesome. Do you guys like asparagus?
Speaker 1: It's just had it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did. It's it has more flavor than green asparagus,
Speaker 1: and also it's got a better texture. It's like not
Speaker 1: as stringy as green asparagus, and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a nice crunch, like a zippy crunch through. God, it's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in the fire grade. I don't know we have
Speaker 1: it here, but yes, takes two to.
Speaker 2: Three years to grow. So that's what I was saying,
Speaker 2: because it's like you can't grow it and harvest it.
Speaker 2: If these places are open annually, they have to have
Speaker 2: like plans of this year's asparagus, next year's as huge
Speaker 2: part of asparagus.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's a huge part of their like culinary scene.
Speaker 1: So they're prepared somehow. I don't know how, but they are.
Speaker 2: Do you think the town smells like asparagus? Pea?
Speaker 1: I didn't before, but now it's all I'm gonna think about.
Speaker 1: I really do want to go to All Sauce even
Speaker 1: more now. But there's also a wine in All Sauce
Speaker 1: that's like asparagus like historically can fuck with wine. Doesn't
Speaker 1: pairal well, it like has a chemical compound that does
Speaker 1: not interact with wine. Well, unless you're drinking moscot from
Speaker 1: Al Sauce, it supposedly pairs really well. I'm not the
Speaker 1: biggest fan of it. All right, Well, thank you, Jean
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Speaker 1: Yep? Fuckos? How's that? Mary? Okay? Missus critical pants, missus
Speaker 1: missus missus smellie P.
Speaker 2: You love it?
Speaker 1: Can I come over that.
Speaker 3: Cut?
Speaker 1: The you have a jar and the jar drink out
Speaker 1: of a jar? Oh my god, jar of your asparagus?
Speaker 1: P shows up? Amanda's Amanda would be.
Speaker 2: Uh, would be the end of our friendship.
Speaker 1: H h h h m hm hm