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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and Welcome to Western SIEV Episode three hundred and thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>House Austria, The House of Austria has generally been cast

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<v Speaker 1>as the bad guy in the story of the Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>Years War. The historian CV. Wedgwood's widely read history, published

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty eight, The Year of Appeasement, portrays a

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<v Speaker 1>weak British ruler James, the first conciliating impending Habsburg dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 1>The Czech historian Joseph Pulenski experienced the Nazi occupation firsthand

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<v Speaker 1>and explicitly compared the failure of the Western powers to

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<v Speaker 1>assist the Bohemian rebels in sixteen eighteen with the Munich

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<v Speaker 1>Crisis over three centuries later. There's a German perspective and

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<v Speaker 1>old historical tradition that portrays the Emperor with his Catholic tyranny,

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<v Speaker 1>seeking to extinguish forces of light and historical progress. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also unfortunate that the best writing in English on this

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<v Speaker 1>period concentrates mostly on Spain, neglecting the Austrian branch, whose

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<v Speaker 1>problems were central to the causes and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion of the conflict. Now, the House of Austria's fortunes

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<v Speaker 1>had been a long time in the making. For much

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<v Speaker 1>of the later Middle Ages, they had trailed behind the

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful competitors in the struggle for influence within the Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally getting the imperial title in fourteen thirty eight thrust

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<v Speaker 1>the Habsburgs into center stage, but their real power actually

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<v Speaker 1>derived from the rapid accumulation of additional provinces and kingdoms

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<v Speaker 1>between fourteen seventy seven and fifteen twenty six. Chief among

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<v Speaker 1>these was Spain, inherited in fifteen sixteen, as it was

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<v Speaker 1>on the cusp of conquering a new World empire. Upon

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<v Speaker 1>the death of Charles the Fifth, the Habsburg domains were

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<v Speaker 1>permanently divided. Charles's brother Ferdinand became Ferdinand the First, the

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Roman Emperor, Duke of Austria, King of Bohemia, and

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<v Speaker 1>King of Hungary. Charles's son, Philip, as we know, became

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<v Speaker 1>the King of Spain, the Netherlands, and a smattering of

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<v Speaker 1>other territories in northern Italy, and of course, a vast

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<v Speaker 1>empire in the New World. Ferdinand faced a complex problem

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<v Speaker 1>inherited in the empire, most of which he only ruled indirectly,

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<v Speaker 1>and which contributed comparatively little against the Turks, who had

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<v Speaker 1>by now overrun much of Hungary. The Austrian state debt

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<v Speaker 1>rose five times over Ferdinand's reign to reach ten million

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<v Speaker 1>florins by his death in fifteen sixty four, equivalent to

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<v Speaker 1>about five years worth of revenue. The cost of servicing

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<v Speaker 1>the sum consumed one point five million florins per year,

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<v Speaker 1>while defense of the eastern frontier required another million. The

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<v Speaker 1>emperor left a further one point five million in personal debts,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as owing his soldiers a million in pay arrears.

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<v Speaker 1>Ferdinand's somewhat posthumous solution was further devolution. In his will,

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<v Speaker 1>he entrusted the imperial title to his senior line, while

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<v Speaker 1>establishing two junior branches for his younger sons. In the

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<v Speaker 1>short term, this allowed the dynasty to intensify its rule

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<v Speaker 1>by sharing the burden of government between the three archdukes. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the costs of economy were lost as debts were lit

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<v Speaker 1>between the branches, forcing each to raise taxes to pay

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<v Speaker 1>off its share. As eldest son, Maximilian received Austria together

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bohemian and Hungarian crowns, and was accepted by

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<v Speaker 1>the electors as the new emperor, but only the provinces

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<v Speaker 1>of Upper and Lower Austria were directly inherited, and though

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<v Speaker 1>they had a combined population of nine hundred thousand, they

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<v Speaker 1>produced less revenue than the more populous kingdom of Bohemia.

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<v Speaker 1>The Habsburgs succeeded to Bohemia only after the death of

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<v Speaker 1>their relations, the Jegalian dynasty in fifteen twenty six. The

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<v Speaker 1>new rulers regarded their crown as hereditary, but had been

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<v Speaker 1>unable to persuade the local nobility to formally renounce the

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<v Speaker 1>theory of elective monarchy. Bohemia was a patchwork of five

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<v Speaker 1>district provinces, each with its own laws and government. As

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<v Speaker 1>a kingdom, Bohemia itself claimed precedents, including denying the other

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<v Speaker 1>four from participating and choosing their monarch. With around six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five twty thousand inhabitants, the Margravate of Moravia

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<v Speaker 1>was around half the size of Bohemia, but shared more

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<v Speaker 1>with it than other provinces, including the predominance of the

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<v Speaker 1>Czech language and, of course, the legacy of the hugh Sites.

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<v Speaker 1>Habsburg authority was the weakest in Hungary. Hungary had only

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<v Speaker 1>been acquired in fifteen twenty six, when the last representative

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<v Speaker 1>of another branch of the Gegalians, died along with three

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<v Speaker 1>quarters of his army at the Battle of Mohawks against

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<v Speaker 1>the Turks. The surviving Hungarian nobles divided sharply over whether

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<v Speaker 1>to accept habsburg claims to the crumbling kingdom. The majority

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<v Speaker 1>opposed a foreign ruler, preferring one of their own, whom

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<v Speaker 1>they proclaimed king in accordance with their theory of elected monarchy,

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<v Speaker 1>but the others accepted the Habsburgs, who granted wide concessions

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<v Speaker 1>to buy support. United resistance against the Turks collapsed, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ottomans captured over one hundred and twenty thousand square

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers of the country, acquiring almost a million new subjects.

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<v Speaker 1>By fifteen forty one, the elected Hungarian king retreated northeast,

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<v Speaker 1>creating his own state by combining largely autonous principalities of

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<v Speaker 1>Transylvania and ruth Ninia, a region that today is actually

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<v Speaker 1>part of Ukraine but was then known as Petranium and

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<v Speaker 1>consisted of eight Hungarian counties east of the Zira River.

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<v Speaker 1>This gave him around eighty thousand square kilometers of territory

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<v Speaker 1>with perhaps three quarters of a million subjects. He managed

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<v Speaker 1>to secure Habsburg recognition as prince on the condition that

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<v Speaker 1>Transylvania would pass to them on his death. However, Transylvania

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be continued to be a problem throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of this story. Transylvania would emerge as an

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<v Speaker 1>autonomous axis between Ottoman and Hungary, governed from Buddha and

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<v Speaker 1>the rumps Habsburg Kingdom based in Pratzlava. The influx of

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<v Speaker 1>refugees fleeing the Islamic advance gave the Habsburgs marginally more

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<v Speaker 1>subjects than either of the two parts, but the split

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<v Speaker 1>deprived them of over two thirds of their former kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the Croatians fully accepted the dynasty as their new ruler,

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<v Speaker 1>using this opportunity to enhance their own authority from the Hungarians.

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<v Speaker 1>The latter remained royalists, accepting Habsburg possession of the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>crown of Saint Stephen, but insisting only on their rights

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<v Speaker 1>not only to elect the king, but to oppose him

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<v Speaker 1>if he broke the constitution. As a result, what we

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<v Speaker 1>did see throughout the sixteenth century was yes, increased Habsburg

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<v Speaker 1>power over certain parts of the kingdom, but all of

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<v Speaker 1>that came at a cost, as the Habsburgs consistently granted

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<v Speaker 1>concessions as they tried to amalgamate a larger kingdom for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>All of those concessions are going to play a role

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<v Speaker 1>in the Thirty Years War to come. Now, state's early

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<v Speaker 1>modern form of representative government could be found throughout all

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<v Speaker 1>the Habsburg provinces and in many of the German territories

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<v Speaker 1>of the Empire. These were made up of the principal nobles, clergy,

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<v Speaker 1>and important urban elites. You probably know the phrase estates

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<v Speaker 1>from the Estates general because of the role that that

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<v Speaker 1>will play in the French Revolution, and these were pretty similar.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest with you, The estate's purpose was to

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<v Speaker 1>give these groups of voice who might not otherwise have

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<v Speaker 1>one in the government. Depending upon your perspective, the estates

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<v Speaker 1>were either an impediment to good government or they were

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<v Speaker 1>the liberal precursors to modern parliaments. To some, particularly Czech

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<v Speaker 1>and Hungarian writers, these were also the guardians of national traditions.

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<v Speaker 1>The question, of course, was which was the better form

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<v Speaker 1>of government, monarchy or estate representation. To answer that, however,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to put aside our modern bias, given that

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<v Speaker 1>the monarchy was a reality that was not going away.

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<v Speaker 1>The question then becomes whether the estates were a benefit

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<v Speaker 1>or a cost for the Habsburg monarchy. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were a benefit. The estates allowed the monarch to meet

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<v Speaker 1>with his most important but non peer subjects. The estates,

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<v Speaker 1>along with the courts, also allowed a better avenue for

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<v Speaker 1>settling disputes than the battlefield. Estates were corporate groups, not individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>and they mirrored the three part organization of medieval society

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<v Speaker 1>to that extent, they were kind of a carryover, which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I mean the tripart priests, nobles and peasants,

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<v Speaker 1>those who pray, those who fight, those who work. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>clerical membership was expressed through the heads of major monastic

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<v Speaker 1>houses and the bishops, not your run of the mill priests. Altogether,

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<v Speaker 1>clerics represented less than two percent of the total population

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<v Speaker 1>of the Habsburg domains, so just the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>were given one whole estate meant that they were massively

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<v Speaker 1>over represented in the government. Noble representation was through qualifying

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<v Speaker 1>manorial estates. Commoner representation was generally limited to several crown

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<v Speaker 1>towns and cities. Thus, with the sole exception of Tyrol,

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<v Speaker 1>commoner representation in the estates was limited to urban dwellers

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<v Speaker 1>in tyrole. Rural villages were allowed to send representatives, but

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<v Speaker 1>again that was very much the exception to the rule.

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<v Speaker 1>The Habsburg estates initially emerged as a way for impartial

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<v Speaker 1>members of the kingdom to advise the king on matters

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<v Speaker 1>of policy. However, the Habsburg monarchs quickly grew tired of

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<v Speaker 1>being told unpleasant truths. As a consequence, they developed their

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<v Speaker 1>own advisory bodies to tell them what they wanted to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>King Ferdinand created a new Privy Council in fifteen twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and he appointed men of ability as well as status.

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<v Speaker 1>Recognizing some good advice was necessary for a functioning kingdom,

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<v Speaker 1>he broke this council into two one section from Bohemia

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<v Speaker 1>and another for Austria, which allowed the councilors the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with local issues much much more effectively. This

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<v Speaker 1>was important because the ability of central agencies to reach

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<v Speaker 1>into localities was severely restricted by the very way in

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<v Speaker 1>which the Empire had been constructed. The Habsburgs could appoint

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<v Speaker 1>a governor in those presidents without archduke, but had to

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<v Speaker 1>consult the estates when naming what was called a lord

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<v Speaker 1>lieutenant and his deputy, who were really in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>the militia or military in the area. They could appoint

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<v Speaker 1>bailiffs and crown towns and stewards to manage the economic

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<v Speaker 1>assets of their domains, but these rarely constituted more than

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of each province. Virtually all other local administration

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<v Speaker 1>remained in the hands of the nobility. In Bohemia, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the nobles ran the provincial court that resolved disputes between them,

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<v Speaker 1>They passed laws, and the exercised jurisdiction over the entire

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<v Speaker 1>rural population. The situation was even more extreme and hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>where half the villages were owned by fifty aristocratic families

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the rest belonged to the five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>or so gentry families. Only the royal towns fell under

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<v Speaker 1>habsburg jurisdiction, but even the largest of these depocrine had

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<v Speaker 1>fewer than twenty thousand inhabitants. The king could not even

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<v Speaker 1>name a governor, known here as a Palatin, but simply

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<v Speaker 1>propose a candidate to the diet that chose who was

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<v Speaker 1>to exercise royal prerogatives whenever the monarch was not physically present,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course was most of the time. With the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of subjects living outside of crown lands and therefore

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<v Speaker 1>outside of crown jurisdictions, The estates become this vital link

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<v Speaker 1>between the dynasty and the bulk of the population. It

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<v Speaker 1>was difficult to achieve anything without the estate's assistance, or

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least acquiescence. In particular, a state help

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<v Speaker 1>was essential to raising taxes. Since domain income covered only

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<v Speaker 1>a fraction of habsburg expenditures, Medieval monarchs had been expected

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<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote, live off their own They were only

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to draw on their subject's resources in critical situations,

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<v Speaker 1>really war and massive natural disasters. The states emerged in

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<v Speaker 1>Central Europe to facilitate these grants at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>rulers were assuming wider responsibilities. Throughout the fifteenth century, the

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<v Speaker 1>growing permanence of royal governments and the complexity of the

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<v Speaker 1>government problems that it was facing led to more frequent assemblies,

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<v Speaker 1>gradually transforming intermittent taxation into regular, annual levies were compelled

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<v Speaker 1>to create their own institutions, forming standing committees to liaison

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<v Speaker 1>with the ruler when the diet was not in session,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a secretary to maintain records and a

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<v Speaker 1>treasury to administer the taxes. Really what we're seeing here

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<v Speaker 1>is the stress that gets put on these governments as

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<v Speaker 1>we transition from a medieval structure to a modern structure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why this period is called the early Modern period.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is we still very much have a medieval

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<v Speaker 1>ethos that's governing how we think about what government is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do, even as the problems that face those

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<v Speaker 1>governments have changed dramatically in the last hundred years. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that we have to talk about with

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<v Speaker 1>the Habsburgs is of course religion. Despite Protestant hopes that

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<v Speaker 1>this or that archduke might convert, the Habsburgs remained uniformly Catholic.

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<v Speaker 1>Protestantism thus lacked the political support that produced the territorial

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<v Speaker 1>Catholicism was also under severe pressure in many provinces. Nine

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five percent of those living in Upper Austria, where

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty five Styrian nobles remained Catholic. Though largely

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen of twenty two Styrian towns had accepted Lutheranism by

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen seventy two. Now, the situation was quite different in Bohemia,

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<v Speaker 1>the wine, which in Latin is sub utrachai spasi, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than the latter, the wine being exclusively reserved for the clergy.

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<v Speaker 1>Services were in Czech and the church lay outside episcopal jurisdiction,

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<v Speaker 1>though the Utriquists compromised with Rome by sending their priests

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<v Speaker 1>to Venice to be ordained. The Habsburgs confirmed these privileges

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<v Speaker 1>of which because Utrichism was at the time losing momentum

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<v Speaker 1>and most Catholics hoped that its followers would soon rejoin them.

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<v Speaker 1>Although a radical minority of Utricus split to become what

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<v Speaker 1>we called the Unity of Breadth, refusing to submit to

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<v Speaker 1>Rome or abandon the Hughsite's social ordeals and programs. Utruchism's

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<v Speaker 1>in the German speaking population and even to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the nobles. When the Czech nobility refused to back the

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<v Speaker 1>Habsburgs and the Schmacaldic War back in fifteen forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Ferdinand cracked down on the radical Revlin and initiated a

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<v Speaker 1>program to revitalize the Catholic Church throughout Bohemia. A Jesuit

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<v Speaker 1>college was founded in Prague in fifteen fifty six, and

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<v Speaker 1>an archbishop appointed there five years later after a vacancy

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<v Speaker 1>of a century and a half. The purpose of all this,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason that it matters, is to point out

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<v Speaker 1>that while the Habsburgs themselves might have remained really quite

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<v Speaker 1>viciously Catholic, the population at large, even in their ancestral

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<v Speaker 1>domains is a lot more varied. In Bohemia, in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>the religious spectrum was a lot more varied than it

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<v Speaker 1>sects of Protestantism. Calvinists, however, only made up three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the population. They were more entrenched to be fair

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<v Speaker 1>amongst the elites, and so they did have a disproportionate

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<v Speaker 1>level of influence. Calvinism was stronger in Hungary, though, where

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<v Speaker 1>Lutheranism had long been regarded as just frankly to German

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<v Speaker 1>to be accepted. Wherever you saw new faiths spreading throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the empire, that meant that the nobility was open to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Without the support of the nobility, evangelical movements had little

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<v Speaker 1>to no chance. Interestingly, to use a modern term. In

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<v Speaker 1>many areas, the Protestants split the vote. By that, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that there were so many Protestant faiths that, even

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<v Speaker 1>though compared to the whole Catholics were in the minority,

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<v Speaker 1>compared to any one other Protestant faith, Catholics were still

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<v Speaker 1>the majority party. The rights of those Protestant minorities depended

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<v Speaker 1>upon those estates, and more than anything else, on the

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<v Speaker 1>power of the purse. The emperor needed the money that

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<v Speaker 1>these communities could vote him, and he did not forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>Protestant nobles, however, faced not only opposition from Catholics but

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<v Speaker 1>from other Protestant groups, and to really lay it on

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<v Speaker 1>from changing economic times. The wealth of the nobility largely

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<v Speaker 1>came from the agrarian economy that produced rye oates, wheat

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<v Speaker 1>and barley. Mining was somewhat significant in Tyrol and part

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<v Speaker 1>of Inner Austria, but the Habsburgs remained in control of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that. Textile production continued to grow in

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<v Speaker 1>Upper Austria, Bohemia and western Moravia, while horse breeding was

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<v Speaker 1>All these activities required land in labor, and these, in

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<v Speaker 1>turn were controlled through various feudal jurisdictions. Like the Habsburgs,

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<v Speaker 1>most lords managed only a small part of their property

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<v Speaker 1>directly as domains, leasing the rest to tenant farmers in

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<v Speaker 1>return for fixed rents. Rising inflation made this less attractive

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<v Speaker 1>in the later sixteenth century, but it was difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>force peasants to just pay more, since they often owed

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<v Speaker 1>obligations to multiple landlords, and they could play one off

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<v Speaker 1>against the other. The Habsburgs were also extending the right

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<v Speaker 1>of appeal to peasants as a means of inserting themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as arbitras of the rural world, intervening between landlords and peasants,

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<v Speaker 1>except in Hungary, where the diet which was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>their representative government, prevented this outright. In fifteen fifty six,

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<v Speaker 1>the rising urban population of northwestern Europe stimulated the demand

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<v Speaker 1>for grain, creating new opportunities for Eastern and Central European landlords.

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<v Speaker 1>In the sixteenth century, they expanded their domains by purchase

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<v Speaker 1>for closing or just simple eviction, while intensifying feudal jurisdiction

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<v Speaker 1>to force dependent peasants to work for them. This is

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<v Speaker 1>similar to what we saw in Russia, which was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of almost a re entrenchment of serfdom. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go quite that far in a lot of Central Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly the peasantry in Central Europe was much, much,

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<v Speaker 1>much less free than it was in Western now. This process,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, has been labeled second serfdom since it

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<v Speaker 1>emerged around fifteen hundred, just as medieval serfdom declined elsewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe. It was very pronounced in Poland, Hungary, Bohemia,

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<v Speaker 1>parts of Austria and northeastern Germany, but it was never uniform. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>when combined with inflation, demographic and environmental change, the spread

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<v Speaker 1>of this new I'll call it a manorial economy grew

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly oppressive, and it symbolized almost a commercialization of the

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<v Speaker 1>rural world. Lords began to exploit forests and other assets

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<v Speaker 1>in their domains in new ways, for example, charging peasants

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<v Speaker 1>for collecting firewood or letting their pigs root in the

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<v Speaker 1>forest for food. The changes fueled tensions within the elite,

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<v Speaker 1>as some lords were just better placed to seize these

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<v Speaker 1>new opportunities than others. The situation was the most extreme

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<v Speaker 1>and hungry, where around fifty magnate families accumulated forty one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the entire country, creating economies of scale, winning

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<v Speaker 1>clients among the gentry and peasants through their ability to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for private armies to combat banditry, and honestly, at

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<v Speaker 1>times even act as a bulwark against the Ottoman Turks.

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<v Speaker 1>The decline of the Hungarian gentry was paralleled in Bohemia,

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<v Speaker 1>where the number of knights fell by nearly a third

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<v Speaker 1>in the five decades before sixteen eighteen, the year the

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<v Speaker 1>war begins, wealth became increasingly concentrated, to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter of the country was held by only eleven

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<v Speaker 1>aristocratic families. Peasant resentment exploded first in Austria in fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five, and then this unrest spread to western parts

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<v Speaker 1>of Lower Austria the following year. Heavy Handed attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>reimpose Catholic priests in some Protestant parish provided a trigger,

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<v Speaker 1>but the underlying causes were honestly economic, and protests were

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<v Speaker 1>soon directed against the Lutheran nobles who dominated the estates.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's clearly at this stage at least was not

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<v Speaker 1>a religion thing. Peasants called for what they referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as Swiss freedom, demanding representation in the estates as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the abolition of taxes and dews. Now, the key

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<v Speaker 1>to this is that the emergency that was prompted by

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<v Speaker 1>all of these various peasant rebellions and the inability of

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<v Speaker 1>the local nobles to deal with these, only highlighted the

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<v Speaker 1>nobility's growing dependence on the Habsburg monarchy. The Habsburgs duly

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<v Speaker 1>put down all these rebellions, executing the ring leaders while

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<v Speaker 1>rewarding those who had protested through quote unquote proper legal channels.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly, nor was the king deaf to the peasant's complaints.

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<v Speaker 1>He went ahead and restricted peasant label service to two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks per year in fifteen ninety eight. There was actually,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, a lot of cooperation between Catholic and

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<v Speaker 1>Protestant peasants throughout the uprising, underscoring the difficulty of linking

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<v Speaker 1>religious and political liberty. Now Ultimately, one of the driving

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<v Speaker 1>factors of the Thirty Years War was the Habsburg relationship

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<v Speaker 1>to Catholicism. The leading members of the Habsburg family essentially

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<v Speaker 1>became convinced that the future of the dynasty depended on

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<v Speaker 1>restoring Catholicism as the basis of their political power and

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<v Speaker 1>political loyalty. The goal was not unrealistic given the continued

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<v Speaker 1>presence of a Catholic minority in the estates and deep

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<v Speaker 1>divisions amongst the Protestants, the majority of whom remained loyal

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<v Speaker 1>subjects despite the religious differences. The religious freedoms that were

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<v Speaker 1>put out in the fifteen seventies had been granted as

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<v Speaker 1>special privileges to the nobles and towns of individual provinces,

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<v Speaker 1>and had yet to be accepted by all members of

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<v Speaker 1>each estate as integral parts of their corporate rights. The

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<v Speaker 1>estates lacked a platform to coordinate a response to the

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<v Speaker 1>dynasty because there was no such thing as the Estates

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<v Speaker 1>General in the Holy Roman Empire. There was no such

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<v Speaker 1>thing as a grand General Assembly, and that, my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be key now here. The partition of

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen sixty four actually worked the dynasty's advantage because it

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<v Speaker 1>reinforced the practice of negotiating with each province of the

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<v Speaker 1>empire separately, and it ensured that the General Austrian Diet

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<v Speaker 1>never reassembled until after the early sixteenth century. Ultimately, why

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<v Speaker 1>the Habsburgs were successful, and what they really realized more

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else, was that the disparate parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>empire could be made to work against each other. The

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<v Speaker 1>Habsburgs could be a united corporate power, a united front,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they could deal with each portion of the

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<v Speaker 1>empire separately, and by doing that they could maximize their power.

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<v Speaker 1>And by preventing the provinces from coordinating with one another,

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<v Speaker 1>which they didn't want to do anyway, it limited the

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<v Speaker 1>ability of different parts of the Empire to fight back

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<v Speaker 1>against expanding sovereignty on the part of the Habsburgs, so

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<v Speaker 1>getting into the machinations of the dynasty a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>Rudolph I succeeded the Emperor max Amilion to the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Empire throne in fifteen seventy six. Rudolph was an

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate leader. He was indecisive. Now by all accounts, he

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<v Speaker 1>was extremely intelligent and very cultured, but all this left

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<v Speaker 1>with him an inflated sense of his own majesty and

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<v Speaker 1>a personality that could be described as nicely aloof. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an avid art collector and keenly interested in the sciences,

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<v Speaker 1>but he grew frustrated quickly if his initiatives failed to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve immediate success. He refused to marry Philip the Second's

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<v Speaker 1>daughter in Spain, and instead lived his entire life with

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<v Speaker 1>his mistress Katrina Estrada, with whom he had at least

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<v Speaker 1>six children, as an art and Catholic. In fifteen seventy seven,

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<v Speaker 1>he decided he would make a big show of his

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<v Speaker 1>faith by supporting a planned Corpus Christie procession throughout Vienna.

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<v Speaker 1>Protestant shopkeepers who refused to move their stalls were simply

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<v Speaker 1>shoved aside by imperial bodyguards when a jug of milk

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<v Speaker 1>was knocked over. The resulting milk war, which lasted from

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen seventy nine to fifteen eighty, left the emperor permanently altered. Look.

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<v Speaker 1>He may never have been clinically insane, certainly, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>sources that say that he was. But Rudolf was close

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<v Speaker 1>at times throughout the rest of his life to mental instability.

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<v Speaker 1>At the very very least, what we can say is

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<v Speaker 1>Rudolf suffered from severe and acute bouts of depression. Two

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<v Speaker 1>years later, Rudolf got even more isolated when he moved

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<v Speaker 1>his court to Prague, shutting himself away in the palace there,

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<v Speaker 1>high above the city, refusing to see anyone for days

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<v Speaker 1>and leaving important documents unsigned. In September fifteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>as he was experimenting with a variety of chemicals, something

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<v Speaker 1>went wrong. He burned his cheek and his beard. He

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<v Speaker 1>of being standing next to him, and the accident plunged

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<v Speaker 1>him deeper into depression, and he shut himself way now

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<v Speaker 1>for months at a time. His persistent refusal to marry

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<v Speaker 1>caused mounting discontent among his relations. Philip the Second arranged

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<v Speaker 1>the betrothal of his daughter Isabella to another of the

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<v Speaker 1>emperor's brother, the Archduke Albert, in fifteen ninety seven, in

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<v Speaker 1>order to try to maintain some sort of contact and

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of hope that the dynasty would move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Their marriage two years later only deepened Rudolph's suspicions towards

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<v Speaker 1>Spain and finally forced him to confront the frustrations of

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<v Speaker 1>his own personal life. He grew obsessed with astrology, and

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<v Speaker 1>his paranoia continued to expand as the new century dawned,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as Rudolph interpreted Tico Brahe's predictions for September of

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen hundred to mean that there was a plot to

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<v Speaker 1>assassinate him. Rudolf's mood swings became increasingly violent, and he

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<v Speaker 1>lashed out at his courtiers, even injuring one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Rudolf's moved to Pra and the subsequent nervous breakdown heightened

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<v Speaker 1>the forces that were holding the empire together. As the

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<v Speaker 1>Austrian government steadily devolved, neither he nor his successor Matthias

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<v Speaker 1>after fifteen ninety five was able to devote really any

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<v Speaker 1>time to the Catholic renewal, which now fell ironically to

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<v Speaker 1>the son of a Lutheran baker from Vienna, Melchior Kessel.

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<v Speaker 1>Kessel converted to Catholicism while a student at Vienna University

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<v Speaker 1>and rose, thanks to Jesuit and Habsburg patronage, to become

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<v Speaker 1>chief chancellor of his former college by fifteen eighty and

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<v Speaker 1>then the Bishop of Werner Neustadt in fifteen eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and that of Vienna a decade later. Kessel is an

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<v Speaker 1>important figure in the path to the Thirty Years War

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<v Speaker 1>because it's his efforts to drive Catholicism that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to make some of the confessional differences more acute when

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<v Speaker 1>the war breaks out. Vessel targeted Vienna as its first

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<v Speaker 1>location for this Catholic revival because that's where Protestant at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment was spreading the most. The milk Wore riot

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<v Speaker 1>that I mentioned earlier was used as a pretext to

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<v Speaker 1>install a Catholic city council and withdraw permission to use

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<v Speaker 1>the Assembly Hall for Lutheran services, while those worshiping outside

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<v Speaker 1>the city were fined. A year after he was formally

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<v Speaker 1>appointed chancellor of the university, of Vienna, Kessel ruled that

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<v Speaker 1>only Catholics could graduate. He then worked with new councilors

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<v Speaker 1>to transfer to the Church around ninety of the twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hundred houses within the city walls for use as places

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<v Speaker 1>of worship or education. The Catholic presence in the city

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<v Speaker 1>was further boosted by the return of court after Rudolph

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<v Speaker 1>died in sixteen twelve. Courtiers, nobles and their servants squeezed

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<v Speaker 1>the city dwellers for the more desirable properties around the

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<v Speaker 1>more central portions of the town, especially in the inflationary

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<v Speaker 1>years of the sixteen twenties, when rich Catholics were able

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase homes throughout Vienna depaced coins. The number of

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<v Speaker 1>Catholics had already quadrupled from the time of Rudolph's ascension

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<v Speaker 1>to about eight thousand by fifteen ninety four. The collapse

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<v Speaker 1>of the peasant protests by fifteen ninety eight encouraged Kessel

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<v Speaker 1>to extend his activities of proselytizing Catholicism all the way

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<v Speaker 1>into the countryside. Upper Austrian lord lieutenants were sent with

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<v Speaker 1>an armed escorts to install forcibly Catholic parish priests and

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<v Speaker 1>to close Protestants estates throughout the countryside. The following year,

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<v Speaker 1>Kessel led twenty three thousand Lower Austrian pilgrims to Styria,

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<v Speaker 1>initiating what by sixteen seventeen became an annual event. Impressive

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<v Speaker 1>as these efforts may seem to change the faith of

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<v Speaker 1>Austria and to effectively turn back the clock, they did

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<v Speaker 1>little good. As late as sixteen hundred, seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the fifty thousand people living in Vienna were still Protestant.

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic efforts to evangelies were more successful in Inner Austria,

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<v Speaker 1>their religious and political loyalty developed more systematically. The Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>strategy was really one of trying to explain that all

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<v Speaker 1>the concessions that had been made previously during the time

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<v Speaker 1>of Luther in around fifteen forty seven were essentially temporary,

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<v Speaker 1>that those were the limits of any new rights that

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<v Speaker 1>would be granted to Protestantism. This wasn't an evolving thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They had been granted those rights temporarily and they could

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<v Speaker 1>be taken back. Really, rather than revoking existing privileges for

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<v Speaker 1>the Protestants, what the Archdukes of Austria would do was

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<v Speaker 1>insist on a strictly Catholic interpretation of them, banning all

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<v Speaker 1>Protestant activities that were not expressly written and sanctioned under

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<v Speaker 1>the law. They had no desire to crush the estates

484
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<v Speaker 1>since they couldn't govern without them. Instead, Protestant members were

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<v Speaker 1>to be isolated by denying them for their favors, while

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<v Speaker 1>loyal Catholic subjects were to be rewarded and promoted. Here,

487
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<v Speaker 1>the Habsburgs could draw on their uncontested archducal, royal and

488
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<v Speaker 1>imperial prerogatives to simply ennoble and legitimize children and confer

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<v Speaker 1>degrees and honors upon Catholic families, while they didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>the same to Protestant ones. The estates were effectively self

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<v Speaker 1>governing corporations and could choose who they wanted to admit

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<v Speaker 1>to them, but it was up to the Habsburgs to

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<v Speaker 1>ennoble people, and so if they didn't create someone as

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<v Speaker 1>a knight, they weren't eligible for the estate, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, by controlling the regulations for membership, what the

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<v Speaker 1>Austrian Habsburgs were able to do was essentially limit the

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<v Speaker 1>pool who could apply to be part of the Estates.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very effective strategy a significant number of

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<v Speaker 1>Austria and noble families died out during the sixteen century,

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<v Speaker 1>creating a further opportunity for the Habsburgs to increase the

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<v Speaker 1>proportion of loyal Catholic subjects. For example, forty new families

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<v Speaker 1>joined the inner Austrian nobility between sixteen sixty and sixteen twenty,

503
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<v Speaker 1>mainly from Italy actually, and sixteen of these were able

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<v Speaker 1>to get a states membership. Further efforts were made to

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<v Speaker 1>make Catholicism more attractive by ensuring a better educated, disciplined,

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<v Speaker 1>and more numerous clergy that paid more attention to the

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<v Speaker 1>needs of ordinary folk. This is actually what Luther had

508
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<v Speaker 1>just wanted when he started the Reformation in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Gregory was persuaded to support this plan and began

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage other rulers throughout Europe to participate. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Roman Emperor Rudolph the Second was an important

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<v Speaker 1>player in the lead up to the Thirty Years War,

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<v Speaker 1>which he was, so was the Archduke of Austria Ferdinand,

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<v Speaker 1>who came of age in fifteen ninety five. Ferdinand was

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<v Speaker 1>an arch an ultra Catholic, and he also fancied himself

516
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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a legal scholar. Thus, his desire to

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<v Speaker 1>expand the Catholic faith was tempered a little bit by

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<v Speaker 1>his reluctant to violate the Constitution. He believed that he

519
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<v Speaker 1>was an quote unquote absolute prince, but refused Machiavelli's suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>that the ends justify the means. Ferdinand believed that princes

521
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<v Speaker 1>should rule through Christian principles, not by those he meant

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic principles. When he ascended the throne, Ferdinand reverted to

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<v Speaker 1>the old princely oath rather than the fifteen sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>modified version, which had been adopted because it was less

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<v Speaker 1>offensive to Protestants. Then, in sixteen oh nine, Ferdinand modified

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<v Speaker 1>the law so that public offices could only be held

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<v Speaker 1>by Catholics. Clearly, as we can already see, the battle

528
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<v Speaker 1>lines are being drawn, this change in attitude was felt

529
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<v Speaker 1>acutely in bohem where the powder keg would ultimately explode

530
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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen eighteen. Between fifteen fifty and sixteen hundred, so

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<v Speaker 1>many Bohemian noble families went extinct that the share of

532
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<v Speaker 1>crown lands expanded from around one percent to ten percent. Moreover,

533
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<v Speaker 1>seven major Catholic land owning families died out between fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven and sixteen eleven, and their wealth passed to

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<v Speaker 1>largely more militant Catholics, determined to use their power to

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<v Speaker 1>advance their faith. Like in Austria, these militant Catholics use

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<v Speaker 1>their power and influence to exclude Protestants to positions of power.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, in fifteen ninety four, all key government posts

539
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<v Speaker 1>in Moravia had been occupied by Protestants. A decade later, however,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire government was Catholic. The problem with this was

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<v Speaker 1>that in Bohemia, Catholics were outnumbered in most areas three

542
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<v Speaker 1>to one, so they were becoming a ruling minority, and

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<v Speaker 1>an unpopular one at that. The people look to their

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<v Speaker 1>emperor for guidance, but Rudolph, secluded and increasingly depressed, was

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<v Speaker 1>no help in the end. As we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>next week, it was the long war with the Ottomans

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to finally provoke crisis after sixteen oh six.

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