WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.120 Like breaking news, like happening as we speak. But it's 2 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:05.719 been out there for looks like about an hour now. 3 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:08.640 Maybe it happened right as the show started, which you know, 4 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:10.640 usually I try to keep up. I try to balance it. 5 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:13.359 I try to keep my eyes on what's going on 6 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:16.600 with social media news. You know a lot of times 7 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:18.480 within a three hour window, you have news that breaks 8 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:19.800 during the show, and you want to be able to 9 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:23.120 share that news with folks that are listening. But I 10 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:24.800 didn't see this right at the beginning of the hour. 11 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:28.960 There's a standoff between Oklahoma State and Mike Gundy. Pete 12 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:34.880 Thamil of ESPN is reporting that the Oklahoma State Administration, 13 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:37.600 I guess his bosses they wanted to take a restructured 14 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:41.520 contract that would include a pay cut. They have discussed 15 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.920 firing him for cause if he doesn't agree to the 16 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:48.920 new contract. And the update here since that came out 17 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:50.880 about an hour ago. This is from on three Sports, 18 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:54.560 that they offered him a reduced contract that would come 19 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.799 with assurances he would that he would go all in 20 00:00:56.840 --> 00:01:00.280 on nil. The dollars saved on his contract would be 21 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.759 put towards nil and revenue sharing. If Gundy does not agree, 22 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.920 Oklahoma State will terminate his existing deal and launch a 23 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:12.120 head coaching search. This is probably not the last time 24 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:13.879 you're going to see something like this happen. Now his 25 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.840 situation is a little bit different. He he's he's got 26 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:20.599 to be one of the longest tenured coaches in power football. 27 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:22.519 In fact, see if you can check on that for me, Austin, 28 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.719 as far as who has been at their position the longest. 29 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.920 I mean, it's crazy to say this, and it makes 30 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:31.560 me feel really really old, between who Gandhi and who anybody? 31 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:36.560 Okay college football, Yeah, I mean the longest tenured coaches. 32 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.239 I mean, he's the I'm a man, I'm forty. That 33 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:40.519 was like eighteen years ago. 34 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.319 I mean that's and I remember that literally in middle 35 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:44.159 school and I had it. 36 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:45.519 I had it up ready to play. 37 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:48.239 If you ever went that was that was whenever I was. 38 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:53.000 I remember it was right around the time that I 39 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.519 had just become like obsessed with sports talk radio, and 40 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.000 I remember it became such a thing on the Jim 41 00:01:58.079 --> 00:01:59.599 Rome Show, and I just thought it was so funny. 42 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.280 And I feel like that was not that long ago. 43 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:03.040 But yeah, it was a long long time ago. So 44 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:06.920 he's got a contract that was extended not that long ago. 45 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.680 Uh and he last year, if you remember, it looked 46 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:13.240 like they were going to be terrible and he would 47 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:15.439 maybe not be able to salvage it. And then they 48 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.039 ended up breaking through and having a really good finish, 49 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:19.840 and then they ran it back this year and they 50 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:22.039 were one of the most disappointing teams in college football, 51 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.360 and you could, you know, I'm sure they probably wish 52 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:26.919 they did not extend him whenever they did. I'm not 53 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.560 sure exactly when that happened. But he's you know, he's 54 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:33.120 a pretty pretty stubborn. What you see is what you get, guy. 55 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:36.120 And look, I shouldn't even say stubborn. If somebody's asking 56 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:40.800 you to, you know, do them a favor by not 57 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:45.000 wanting what they agreed to give you in a contract, 58 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.479 like and you decide no, I'm not doing that, Like 59 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.879 you're you're not stubborn, You're you're I wouldn't even call 60 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.000 it standing your ground. You were doing what like you 61 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:57.080 are entitled to do. And there's nothing wrong with doing that. 62 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.639 That's like with Mark Stoops. Like even if Mark Stoops 63 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.240 wanted to leave Kentucky like Kentucky fans want him to, 64 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.080 he'd be foolish to walk away from that money, and 65 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.680 only a fool would do that, So don't be mad 66 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:12.800 at him for like, I can't believe he won't just 67 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.719 walk away. He's gonna let this end nasty, and he's 68 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.319 gonna it's gonna be well, okay, well you know who 69 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.360 would walk away from that contract? What are we gonna say? 70 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.919 I said, how could we forget? Iowa legend? 71 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:29.439 Kirk Farrens he's right ahead of Mike Gundy, so it's him, 72 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.439 and then it's Mike Gundy number two, and then right 73 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:35.960 after that is uh uh Kyle Whittingham of uteh. 74 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:38.560 Okay Stews is probably not far off from that now 75 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.280 that I think about it, but yeah, I don't know. 76 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:43.360 He's number seventh behind Dave Dorn and Dabo Sweeney. 77 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.639 Makes sense. So when it comes to when I said, 78 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:48.360 this won't be the first time or this won't be 79 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:50.400 the last time this happens, you know, gundy situation is 80 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.159 a little bit different because he he's been there a 81 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.120 long time and they probably have had two different scenarios 82 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.159 in his tenure to where they thought about, Okay, we're 83 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.039 gonna have to do it and move on, and they 84 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.879 didn't and now you know, they realize they're they're up 85 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:06.479 against it when it comes to his contract. Now, what 86 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:10.000 I'm curious about is what would they fire him for? 87 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.960 Calls for like what we don't I mean that, that's 88 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.720 that's what I would want to know. It's yeah, I mean, 89 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:26.160 I think you'll see schools either threaten that to get 90 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:29.560 a reduced buyout or I mean, the last the last 91 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.680 school I can think of that just tried to say, 92 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:34.920 all right, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna claim we 93 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.879 have cause was Yukon basketball. If you remember when they 94 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.879 fired Kevin Ali, they had no reason to fire him 95 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:43.759 other than he stunk, but that's not included in the contracts. 96 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.120 These guys get guys like you could be a terrible coach, 97 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:51.399 and if you don't break rules and you are just 98 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:53.800 going to work and doing the job. Even if the 99 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:56.959 job performance is terrible and you lose every game, that 100 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:00.000 is not cause to fire you without you being given 101 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:04.319 in every dime that is in the contract. So Kevin Ali, 102 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:06.720 if you remember, he ended up suing and fighting and 103 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.199 he won, they had to pay him every bit. So 104 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:14.560 you know, maybe Oklahoma State realizes they do have something 105 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.480 in Gundhy. To be fair, he's the kind of coach that, 106 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.839 like nobody would really be shocked of anything that comes 107 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:21.959 out of whatever they use as the cause to get 108 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:25.120 rid of him and terminate his employment and claim he 109 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:29.519 didn't he's not owed any money. But yeah, I don't, uh, 110 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.600 I mean, he's made more than seventy million dollars as 111 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:36.120 as their coach. And I know some people will say, well, 112 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:38.480 with that, then he should just agree to take less money, 113 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.839 Like no, I mean if he did, then you know, 114 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:44.360 that would really be him doing doing the school of favor. 115 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:46.639 And I know some will say, well, how much money 116 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:47.879 does he need? Like you know that that was the 117 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:49.759 whole thing with Stoops. That's the reason I broughtoops Ups 118 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:51.839 is because I just thought it was hilarious that as 119 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:56.120 things were really spiraling out of control for Kentucky this 120 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:01.079 past season, there was just like this collective feeling from 121 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:03.759 Kentucky fans that yeah, I just I don't know, I don't. 122 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.680 I don't think he's gonna be back. Where would he go? Like, 123 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.240 what do you mean he's not gonna be back? Like 124 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.399 you think he just wants to leave and not coach anymore. 125 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:14.920 Fair enough, but he's not gonna walk away from that money. 126 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.319 And with Mike Gundhy, same situation, Like I'm sure Oklahoma 127 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.000 State fans are like, oh, he's gonna do this to 128 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:22.959 us after he's been here this long and he's made 129 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.399 this much money and he knows that things aren't going 130 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.240 well and they need money for nil. Okay, Well, then 131 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.399 blame the person who gave him the contract, Like that's 132 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.560 what it all comes down to. So we'll see what 133 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:37.079 shakes out here. But geting ugly and still water. 134 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.720 Come after me, I'm a man, I'm forty. 135 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:45.120 There are so many layers to that rant that are 136 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.120 i mean legendary, like the come after me, I'm a man, 137 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:52.319 I'm forty is what ninety nine point nine percent of 138 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:56.399 people take from that long rant. But man, there's so 139 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:01.319 many gems within the the whole madness of it, like, uh, 140 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:03.120 the you know, it's even in our intro. I don't 141 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:04.480 even know people know this or not. Did you know 142 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:07.000 that the intro of this show has clips from that rant? 143 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.399 Yes, it's literally right before he says. 144 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.199 That who's the uh, who's the kid here? 145 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:13.240 Yeah, who's the kid here? 146 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:15.920 Here? You kidding me? And the best part and then 147 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:16.680 he talks about. 148 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.600 The Jonas brothers at some point there too. I remember, yeah, 149 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:21.800 because he said that at all. Yeah, well, I mean 150 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:23.800 he uses them as like a reference because like they 151 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:25.279 were talking about like kids, you. 152 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.600 Know, Oh okay, well he I just remember it was 153 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.079 a I think it was a woman who was a 154 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:35.560 reporter and she and what's crazy is that like she 155 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:38.360 didn't looking back, she didn't do anything that isn't done 156 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.000 every day in college sports. But at that point we 157 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:46.079 were super like these are kids, you know, And and 158 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:49.600 they still are technically actually they're not if they're eighteen, 159 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:50.959 they're not a kid by definition, but you know what 160 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:52.360 I mean, Like it used to be like, well, these 161 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:54.839 guys are out here playing, uh, working their ass off 162 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.120 like you shouldn't. Like there used to be a very 163 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:58.920 very clear line of like, all right, well these guys 164 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:00.759 aren't pros. Well, now here we in twenty twenty four, 165 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:02.879 about to be twenty twenty five. It is absolutely pro 166 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:04.480 sports now, and it's right in front of our face. 167 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.639 But he was real bothered by a column that was 168 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.600 written that didn't it wasn't personal, it was just kind 169 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.279 of acknowledging that one of their players. I guess it 170 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.040 was their quarterback like had struggled or something like that, 171 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:19.040 and Gundy he said, who I got to read this 172 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:22.360 garbage and the editor who let it in there is garbage. 173 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.160 And then he went on to say, whoever wrote this 174 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.240 could not be a mother of children, and I will 175 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.160 never forget it. Jan Rome said, no, it was a 176 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:31.759 mother of bears, that's who wrote it. Like, what do 177 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.879 you talk like it was? It's up there. I've at 178 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.039 times wanted to find a rant that is better, but 179 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.360 that's the best of all time because there's so much 180 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.639 within it that makes it great. But he's kind of 181 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.360 you know, there's a lot of people who probably follow 182 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:49.039 college football pretty closely that I guess are aware that, 183 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:51.639 like he had that epic rant many many years ago. 184 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.679 But I used to think there's no scenario that Mike 185 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.360 Gundy will come to mind and not be what you 186 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.039 think about. But I kind of feel like that's not 187 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.240 the case anymore. He had a pretty hit, a pretty 188 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:04.720 ugly stretch there during the pandemic, if you remember, like it. 189 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:08.080 Was oh yeah, the the on network or the oh 190 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:09.960 yeah yeah right wing. 191 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.799 And I can I can respect and that's okay, I 192 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:16.480 can respect, you know, somebody who's just is going to 193 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.039 tell you, tell you what they think and be honest 194 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:21.879 with you. But you also have to understand that in 195 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.159 your position, you can't be surprised if that backfires on you. 196 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:28.279 And maybe you say, well, you don't care. And if 197 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.600 that's the case, then you know, good on you for 198 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.000 not carmel people think. But it could also impact your livelihood. 199 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.320 I mean, he's the guy that the Big twelve media 200 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.679 days earlier this year, if you remember, I mean his 201 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.080 his again, this is a perfect example of Gundhy, My 202 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.559 Gundhy at the S at the Big twelve media day. 203 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:47.679 See if you can find the CLIPBOFS then I don't 204 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.799 even know how you'd reference it. But Gundhy Big twelve 205 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:55.799 like d Ui because he was talking at the media 206 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:59.080 days and Ali Gordon, their star running back who came back. 207 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:00.519 It was a big deal. He did not have a 208 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.159 great season and obviously they were very underwhelming, but he 209 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.240 got a DUI before the season started and Gundy said 210 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:09.720 he was going to discipline him but not suspend him, 211 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:12.639 and then he kind of just started talking and you know, 212 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.519 doing Gundy stuff, not realizing what he was actually saying. 213 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:20.279 But he basically said what Ali Gordon did as far 214 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.360 as you know, blowing over the legal limit, but just 215 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.960 a little bit. I mean, Gundy said, well, I've done 216 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.360 that a million times or a thousand times, whatever it 217 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.200 was like. And again I think he's being directly. I 218 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.799 think he's been absolutely honest. And in a way you're like, Okay, well, 219 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:35.200 at least he's being honest, But you're like, did you 220 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.840 really just on live TV say that like what your 221 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:40.279 player got arrested for that, you know, is like a 222 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:43.480 clear crime that you do it all the time, like 223 00:10:44.240 --> 00:11:12.759 good play? That wasn't it? 224 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:14.960 But that was no, I guess it wasn't. It was 225 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.240 just the first thing I clicked. Yeah, you got to 226 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.200 do a better job at vetting that. I guess my bad. 227 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:22.039 Let me see here, and it's not really worth it now, 228 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:25.840 But I swear it was just, you know, and I 229 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:27.559 thought we talked about it live on the air when 230 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.600 it had happened, because he had said it while the 231 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.440 show was going on and we weren't covering it or 232 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:36.039 anything like that. But you know, you know, oftentimes here 233 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:37.919 in fact, you never hear coaches say that I just 234 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.600 sent you the uh, I'm gonna send you the correct 235 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:43.200 clip here, unless, of course you're not on Why are 236 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.360 you not on here? Did you? Did you block me 237 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:46.919 on Twitter? 238 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:47.600 Did you on Twitter? 239 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:47.879 Name? 240 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.080 I didn't think that you'd ever find out. 241 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:50.360 Here we go? 242 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:50.759 Uh? 243 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:53.240 I sent it to you. But it was one of 244 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.240 those things where you realized that that was very crazy 245 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.919 for a coach to say, but because the reaction was 246 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:02.080 going to be so consensus, it probably would die down 247 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:05.159 and not become a big deal. And the reaction was, well, yeah, 248 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.320 that's my Gundy. That's not at all a surprise that 249 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:09.159 he said that. And then it was kind of over, like, 250 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:10.480 what are you gonna do? Cancel him? I think if 251 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:12.279 he was gonna be canceled, there were some other things 252 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:14.399 that probably would have already led to him, you know, 253 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:15.480 getting canceled. 254 00:12:17.000 --> 00:13:06.440 I got it for you now, all right, let's see. 255 00:12:45.639 --> 00:13:02.679 I shouldn't laugh. So is that it? 256 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:03.080 Yeah? 257 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:08.559 Yeah, probably done that how many times? A thousand times 258 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:11.240 in my life. And here's what's crazy is that I'm not, 259 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:13.879 by any means a Mike Gundhy fan or an apologist, 260 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:17.159 but there isn't There's always gonna be something regardless if 261 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:20.159 you're a low life human being. And I'm not saying 262 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:23.360 that he is. But I think he is very directly 263 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:25.200 honest and what you see is what you get. He's 264 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.399 completely transparent. You're never gonna get any sugarcoating of an answer. 265 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.799 And I still think that's worth something. I mean, again, 266 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.480 there are people who are like that that are probably 267 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:36.039 awful human beings. And I'm not saying that that that's 268 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:39.200 such a quality that can that can you know that 269 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.879 can overcome somebody being a terrible, despicable human And again 270 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.440 not saying Gundy is that. But I think it never 271 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.679 became like a big deal because like, yeah, it's Gundhy, 272 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:48.440 what do you expect, Like nobody's surprised at all that 273 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.120 he said he's probably driven a thousand times where if 274 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:52.759 he got pulled over, he'd get a dui and a 275 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:54.679 lot of people listening right now probably done the same 276 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:55.240 thing and know it. 277 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:57.120 So it don't look at me. 278 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.480 Yeah, in a moment, it felt like, oh, this is 279 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:01.080 gonna be bad, and then you're like, actually, probably not, 280 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.480 because you know, one, it's Gundy and if anything, he's 281 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:04.159 just being honest. 282 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:05.840 I guess that's a good thing to look forward to 283 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.279 whenever you turn forty, Like that's the next milestone as 284 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:12.159 you can finally play that and feel one with Mike Gundy. 285 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.399 I'm a man, I'm forty. That's like it's a. 286 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.720 Far away from it obviously there before too long. 287 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:19.080 It's not a just like a year older than me, 288 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:23.879 right yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't look at 289 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.720 day over twenty nine one. No, I'm thirty one, but 290 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.200 yeah I'm a lot on you age very well. Oh, 291 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:30.799 thank you, just brown nosing a little bit. 292 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:32.480 Really appreciate that, man, really appreciate it. 293 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:33.919 You definitely do it works, it. 294 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:35.120 Works, all right. We gotta get to a quick break. 295 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.879 We'll come back on the other side, talk about these 296 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:39.720 conference championship games this weekend, and then we will talk 297 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:41.840 to doctor Eric Michaelroy of proti ephyscal Therapy who's going 298 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:43.440 to join us coming up in about twenty minutes. So 299 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:45.519 hang out. It's coffee and Company. We are fueled by 300 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.159 Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 301 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.080 You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on 302 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:52.720 Sports Talk seven ninety. 303 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:57.000 That's right, it's coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's here 304 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.000 on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thanks for hanging out with 305 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:00.639 us here on a Friday after and as we get 306 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.279 you set for the weekend, and we are now joined 307 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.200 by the one and only doctor Eric macelroy from pro 308 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:08.200 reaf physcal Therapy. How are we doing aerictificate Thanksgiving? My man? 309 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:11.559 Uh, yes, sir, I did. I had a great Thanksgiving. 310 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.000 We had a little had to do some shifting around. 311 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.559 We ended up hosting, but uh it turned out really 312 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.000 well and you know ate too much. 313 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:21.879 But how about yourself? 314 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:24.240 Yeah, we we had a good time. You said you 315 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.639 ended up hosting. I got the sense that maybe you 316 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:28.799 weren't expecting to host, but you had to, so a 317 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.679 little bit of a last minute shuffling up the schedule. 318 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:34.960 It sounds like, yeah, I wouldn't say we had to. 319 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.120 We just had some circumstances where my mother in law 320 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:39.320 usually hosts. 321 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:40.399 And out of town, and. 322 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:43.840 You know, my just to make a long story short, 323 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.159 she was having to help take care of my niece 324 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:50.159 and nephew and they're really young and became more stressful. 325 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.720 So we just we said, look, we'll we'll do it here. 326 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.159 Just bring the kids to us and we'll have everybody 327 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:58.840 come over to our house. And you know, because most 328 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:00.759 of us have to travel to their place anyway, so 329 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.080 uh it worked out and took some of the stress 330 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:04.559 off of her. 331 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:06.600 Well good, I'm glad that it worked out because I 332 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.279 I don't mind hosting stuff at our house. But my wife, 333 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.480 she you know, she she doesn't mind. Well, I say 334 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:15.440 she doesn't mind. She stresses out about it a lot, 335 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:16.840 and I'm like, it's not that big of a deal, 336 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:17.919 like we don't have to do that much. And then 337 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:19.559 she tells me all the work that she puts into it, 338 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:20.679 and I'm like, okay, well, I guess there is a 339 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:22.399 lot of work, but it'll be fine, it'll all work out. 340 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:25.240 But where us, we rarely host. What we do, we 341 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.120 actually do a Christmas hosting each each year from my 342 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.799 side of the family. And every year she's always worried 343 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:32.799 at something, and I'm like, what what, what would go wrong? 344 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:34.679 It's gonna be family, We're gonna have fun, like it's 345 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.399 gonna be great. So I always tell her that's it's unexpected, 346 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:41.120 it's unnecessary worry and stress because it's all gonna it's 347 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.279 all gonna work out. So glad you had to go. 348 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:45.960 And then I'm all and they're always stressed about and 349 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:48.000 I'm like, these people come over all the time. 350 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:50.120 Yeah, I don't know why the house has to look 351 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:50.639 any different. 352 00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:54.440 Yes, we're on the same page, man, We were absolutely 353 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:55.799 on the same page, all right. 354 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.200 So when it comes to Louisville basketball, man, it has 355 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:00.679 been just a tough go when it comes to injuries. 356 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:04.880 They've now lost both case and Pryor and Corain Johnson 357 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.720 for the entire year. Kidder Trey Ore is healing and 358 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.079 it's expected to be back at some point. And then 359 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.200 there are two players that transferred in to play for 360 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.200 the program this year with the expectation of not playing 361 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.400 at all because they were coming off of injuries. I 362 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.359 guess I'll start with with Krain Johnson. He was dealing 363 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.440 with a shoulder injury. It sounds like and I think 364 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.519 last week we had heard from Pat Kelsey that he 365 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:30.519 was seeking a second opinion, and then I guess he 366 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:32.640 got that second opinion and it led to him deciding 367 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.920 to go ahead and set out the rest of the season, 368 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:38.480 have a procedure and take a medical red shirt. When 369 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:41.359 you hear that someone is getting a second opinion, I 370 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.720 guess it could depend upon what the injury is. But 371 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.599 what is in your profession, what does that usually lead 372 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.279 you to believe if they're seeking a second opinion, I mean, 373 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:50.880 what do I know? But I feel like it means 374 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:52.319 they didn't like the first opinion and they're going to 375 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:54.359 try to see if they get better news from somebody else. 376 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:56.920 Yeah, I'll start backwards. 377 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.519 I think that everybody should always get multiple pinions. I 378 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.400 don't think it means you don't love or like what 379 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:04.960 the original opinion was. 380 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:07.119 H I mean, it could be, but it doesn't always 381 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:07.759 have to be that way. 382 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.839 It's just to make sure that you have all the 383 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:15.240 information and that you know because different different providers may 384 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:17.200 approach things a little differently, and you got to make 385 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.920 sure it matches up not just what the surgery is, 386 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.119 but does it match up what the expectations and the 387 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:25.160 goals are of that individual. So, you know, for Karn Johnson, 388 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:27.119 I mean, he's a high level basketball player, He's got 389 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:27.720 a future. 390 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.720 Ahead of him. You know, how does. 391 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.319 This particular if he has to have surgery, obviously, like 392 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:34.680 what they're going to do or how they're going to 393 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.200 do it, how innovative it is, what's the recovery like, 394 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:40.400 you know, what's that going to mean for his career? 395 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:43.200 And you know, and those are things that he needs 396 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:46.319 to take into account and you know, getting more opinions. 397 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.279 You know, the nice thing is if they're matching up, 398 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.599 that usually is telling. If they don't match up, now 399 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:54.960 you got to pick which one is the least least 400 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:58.079 of you know, that has the least amount of resistance 401 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.759