Speaker 1: It's nice side with Dan Ray on wbzst's video.
Speaker 2: All right, as I think most of you know, there's
Speaker 2: this this Olympic Games are going on in Paris. This
Speaker 2: was the Olympic Games that Boston was trying to bid on.
Speaker 2: Back I don't know, back in twenty sixteen, Marty Walsh
Speaker 2: was Mayor of Boston and there was a group of
Speaker 2: individuals who thought, wouldn't it be a great idea to
Speaker 2: bring the Olympics to Boston. And I remember at the time,
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, Wow, imagine the Olympics in Boston.
Speaker 2: They actually had an area where they were going to
Speaker 2: build an Olympic stadium and it's called Woodett Circle downtown
Speaker 2: if I if I recall correctly, and they were talking
Speaker 2: about they could do some of the Olympic games out
Speaker 2: of Jillette Stadium. Well, that's where the Patriots are already
Speaker 2: practicing for the twenty twenty four football season. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that would have worked out. The Patriots would
Speaker 2: have been replaced. They could have done use the Charles River.
Speaker 2: For some it would have been a nightmare. It would
Speaker 2: have been a nightmare for the entire summer, for the
Speaker 2: period of time coming up to it in the period
Speaker 2: of time coming after it. Now you had this going
Speaker 2: on over in France and they had these opening ceremonies,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of people. Now I did not
Speaker 2: see the opening ceremony of the Olympics. I was interested
Speaker 2: in seeing if Selene Deon was going to appear, and
Speaker 2: I guess she did. I've tried to find some of that,
Speaker 2: but I think NBC is keeping really a tight lid
Speaker 2: on it. I've tried to find the opening ceremony, which
Speaker 2: has been so controversial, and I, in the spirit of
Speaker 2: full disclosure, will tell you that I haven't been able
Speaker 2: to find it. So therefore I have to rely upon
Speaker 2: you to tell me what you might think about that
Speaker 2: opening ceremony. Was it in bad taste? I mean what
Speaker 2: I've read, and I guess all of us have read,
Speaker 2: you know, different well reports of it, that it was,
Speaker 2: in the minds of many people blasphemous. Looking at an
Speaker 2: article here out of the New York Times, an Olympics
Speaker 2: scene draw An Olympics scene draws scorn? Did it really
Speaker 2: parody the Last Supper? Some church leaders and politicians have
Speaker 2: condemned the performance from the opening ceremony for marking Christianity
Speaker 2: art historians are divided.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 2: Again I didn't see it. There's a apparently in Mississippi
Speaker 2: based telecommunications dividers spire to announce it would pull us
Speaker 2: advertisements from Olympic broadcast. Speaker of Mike Johnson, who's a
Speaker 2: very religious guy, as I understand that described the scene
Speaker 2: as shocking and insulting decree people the opening this iscording
Speaker 2: to New York Times, the opening ceremonies artistic director Thomas Jolly,
Speaker 2: that's a great name, Thomas Jolly said. The game's Daily
Speaker 2: News said at the game's daily news conference on Saturday
Speaker 2: that the event was not meant to be subversive or
Speaker 2: shocked people or mock people. On Sunday, the Paris spokeswors person,
Speaker 2: whose name was Ian this de comp said at the
Speaker 2: daily news conference, if people have taken any offense, we
Speaker 2: are of course really really sorry. Sorry. Now for some
Speaker 2: it's according to the New York Times, and I have
Speaker 2: to rely on the Times here. The resemblance to da
Speaker 2: Vinci's painting of the Last Supper was undeniable. Quote. The
Speaker 2: idea of the central figure with a halo and a
Speaker 2: group of followers on either side is so typical of
Speaker 2: the Last Supper iconography that to read it any other
Speaker 2: way might be a little foolhard, he said Sasha grisson
Speaker 2: and Art History orient and professor emeritus at the Australian
Speaker 2: National University. The central figure wearing the headdress was reminiscent
Speaker 2: reminiscent of high Renaissance style Last Supper paintings in which
Speaker 2: Jesus is depicted with a halo or light around his head,
Speaker 2: Professor Grishian said, in some paintings this is portrayed as
Speaker 2: a gold circle. In others, like da Vinci's, Jesus's back
Speaker 2: lit by a window or has a subtle radiance around him.
Speaker 2: This is again according for The New York Times. Here
Speaker 2: the drag queen's poses also, I guess apparently some of
Speaker 2: the participants, if not all, were drag queens. The drag
Speaker 2: queen's poses also resembled those of Jesus's disciples, he said,
Speaker 2: adding to the scene was a very very sacred image
Speaker 2: to Christians, as it represented the moment that Jesus announced
Speaker 2: he was preferred to sacrifice himself for the for humanity sins. Others, whoever, argued,
Speaker 2: there was not immediately clear that the scene was referencing
Speaker 2: the Last Supper. For so one, there were at least
Speaker 2: seventeen drag queens and more when the Blue Painted Man,
Speaker 2: the French actor and singer Philippe Catherine sang versus Jesus's
Speaker 2: twelve Apostles, said Louise Marshall, an honorary Senior Lecturer at
Speaker 2: the University of Sydney and an expert in Renaissance art,
Speaker 2: where the New York Times has gone heavily here for
Speaker 2: the Australians, that's basic. You kind of have to have
Speaker 2: that number, the reference to the Last Supper, particularly the
Speaker 2: da Vinci version. Although many paintings have featured the scene,
Speaker 2: the apostles are usually clustered in three groups of four,
Speaker 2: connected visually through gestures that they make toward one another.
Speaker 2: Doctor Marshall said the drag queen's posed this, she said,
Speaker 2: seemed more like volguing, a style of dance closely linked
Speaker 2: to drag culture. The table should also be set up
Speaker 2: for a meal, with food across the table rather than
Speaker 2: a pile of fruit the blue painted man was sitting on.
Speaker 2: She said. Frankly, I looked at the clips. The Last
Speaker 2: Supper isn't necessarily what springs to mind, she said, it
Speaker 2: seems very lighthearted and funny and witty and very inclusive. Okay.
Speaker 2: Some have also convened the scene to him. Painting of
Speaker 2: the Gods of Olympus called the Feast of the Gods,
Speaker 2: painted by the Dutch artist Jean van Bijeur in the
Speaker 2: seventeenth century. It shows God's crowded around a long table.
Speaker 2: At the center is Apollo, the sun god, with the
Speaker 2: halo of light around his head. You know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I I don't know. The director here a guy named
Speaker 2: whose name was Jolly, mister Jolly. It's a great name.
Speaker 2: I knew kid's name Jolly growing up. It is the
Speaker 2: Dionysus who arrives at the table, mister Jolly said in
Speaker 2: a television interview with the French media outlet bf MTV.
Speaker 2: Dionysus Sus is the Greek god of festivities and wine
Speaker 2: and is the father of Sequana, the goddess of the
Speaker 2: sign the Sane River. He said. The idea was was
Speaker 2: instead to of a grand pagan festival connected to the
Speaker 2: gods of Olympus. Olympus Okay, I don't know. I'd love
Speaker 2: to know if you saw it, if you watched it,
Speaker 2: your reaction to it. Uh, the six one seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty line is full. Six one seven, nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty line is open. Six one seven, nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. We'll be back with phone calls again.
Speaker 2: If they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder,
Speaker 2: maybe blasphemy is in the eye of the beholder. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's the best they got for friends.
Speaker 2: It certainly was not something that would have particularly interested me.
Speaker 2: But again, who am I to judge friends? I mean,
Speaker 2: they have they have the Olympics. We don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know what we would have done for an
Speaker 2: opening act. Maybe would have we would have had the
Speaker 2: Celtics on the duck boat and the Charles I don't know.
Speaker 2: Back on Nightside right after this joined the conversation. Now
Speaker 2: back to Dan Ray live from the Window World Nightside.
Speaker 4: Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Now, let's see what people have to say in this again.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, of course, didn't watch it, but
Speaker 2: I think NBC has kind of clamped this down on this.
Speaker 2: If anybody can find it easily, uh, and can can
Speaker 2: recommend I looked, I looked all day for it, and
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good at at finding stuff on the on
Speaker 2: the Internet, particularly when it comes to news stories. Alex
Speaker 2: and Haveril Alex. First is our nightside right ahead.
Speaker 5: Dan, you know, spare yourself. Life is too short. I
Speaker 5: mean I stayed home and this is it was live
Speaker 5: first time in American TV that Olympics opening ceremony of
Speaker 5: Europe has shown life. If you couldn't tell that they
Speaker 5: weren't making fun of the Last Supper, you got issues
Speaker 5: because you had a person with a hill like a fact,
Speaker 5: people looking from the left, people looking from the right.
Speaker 5: It was a mockery, you know, and it's amazing. Apparently
Speaker 5: they didn't learn their lesson in France. Well kind of
Speaker 5: like they did lend their lessons that you can make
Speaker 5: fun of Christians, but Heaven forbid make fun of Islam,
Speaker 5: because if they had done it with Islam, I will
Speaker 5: guarantee you that the elements of the eighty second Airborne
Speaker 5: Quick Reaction Force and the one seventy third Airborn getting
Speaker 5: ready to rescue Americans in Paris and other cities right now,
Speaker 5: because you're pretty a flame. It was insulting, was the meaning?
Speaker 5: Was the worst opening games I ever seen that they
Speaker 5: took away from people the pride of watching your host nation.
Speaker 5: I mean, if your country march into the stadium, me
Speaker 5: the Dominican Republican. Of course, the country are born in
Speaker 5: love more than uniform. In the US, they took that
Speaker 5: away from me and from other people, you know, by
Speaker 5: having them come down the river saying that's like if
Speaker 5: the Olympics were in Boston. Now coming into Andrews Square
Speaker 5: from Braintreet, im Ireland and coming in from Harvard will
Speaker 5: be the English team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, Alex I had the same feeling. I
Speaker 2: thought to myself, what would have we done in Boston?
Speaker 2: I mean there were actually people in Boston that wanted
Speaker 2: to bring the Olympics here. I mean after nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: This was like in twenty sixteen. I mean, can you imagine.
Speaker 5: I think Boston would have been a great host city.
Speaker 5: But the problem is that the people here too down
Speaker 5: beat into negative. Not that I want to get political,
Speaker 5: but when you live in America's high tech, fildwell state,
Speaker 5: one party state, there's really no hope. Your best thing
Speaker 5: is just jumping the car going ninety five and go
Speaker 5: to Florida and get out.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: It's just it really put us our taste that I'm
Speaker 5: not even watching the darn games. And I love my country.
Speaker 5: I roofed my country. I rooted my parents' homewan and
Speaker 5: some of the boxing and track and fiel events. But
Speaker 5: the French, as usual, the surrender people that they are
Speaker 5: have destroyed it for a lot of people, not just
Speaker 5: in this country, but also from friends and relatives I
Speaker 5: talked to. The dr have destroyed it because of this,
Speaker 5: because of the lack of respect. And they can imagine
Speaker 5: if Christians have rioted and burned, but we don't do
Speaker 5: that because we literally, like our Lord and Servia said,
Speaker 5: turn the other cheek. And the French are just they're
Speaker 5: doom because the churches are empty in France, the Moscu
Speaker 5: are full. I don't have to tell you how this
Speaker 5: is going to end within a generation, Alex.
Speaker 2: Very interesting, interesting observations. Thanks, thanks for calling. I want
Speaker 2: you to call more often. I need to hear your voice. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know that not.
Speaker 5: A problem, Not a problem, big boss. We'll talk and
Speaker 5: watch out of French people sit at tables.
Speaker 2: Uh, just keep rolling. Going to go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Billy,
Speaker 2: you were next one night saga right ahead?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that calls hard, hard to fall. I like
Speaker 6: to hear that, guy, Hey, Dan, this is this is
Speaker 6: the this is the elite left, Okay, dot matter if
Speaker 6: they're in France, if they're in the United States, wherever
Speaker 6: they're at, Okay, they're the most intolerant people. And they
Speaker 6: did this. Alex made a good point. They did this, Okay.
Speaker 6: I think one of the reasons that they get away
Speaker 6: with us is to show, Okay, to show the Muslim
Speaker 6: faction in France that they can do it. And and
Speaker 6: and there's something there, but it's it's sacrilegious and uh,
Speaker 6: you know, it reminds me. Trump was the first president
Speaker 6: okay to have the to have the news media not
Speaker 6: only go after him, but to go after all his voters.
Speaker 6: That's where it started. It's the elite left, Okay, intolerant
Speaker 6: and and I could tell you you give him an inch,
Speaker 6: they got to take a mile. And it's just I'm
Speaker 6: not watching it. I'm not watching it. I like that
Speaker 6: Alex was saying, I roos for my country, Okay, but uh,
Speaker 6: I I'll uh my wife and I were going to
Speaker 6: go on a trip to France were canceling that. That's
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well it's what I don't understand is that we're
Speaker 2: in this time in which we're supposed to celebrate diversity,
Speaker 2: but there was not a lot of diversity in that
Speaker 2: scene as I could see it. I mean, there was
Speaker 2: you know, there was there was one group represented in.
Speaker 6: That and well I could yeah, no, I can remember.
Speaker 6: I can remember a few years ago when that Charlie
Speaker 6: Hebdoes thing was going on over there, and and you know,
Speaker 6: it's it's it's come to it's coming to a point.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's just the way they the way
Speaker 6: they mock religion, and well but they don't.
Speaker 2: They don't mock religion. They mock and again it's safe
Speaker 2: to say whatever you want about Christianity and Judaism. You know,
Speaker 2: people you know obviously have now in many in many
Speaker 2: areas have have talked about, you know, what's going on
Speaker 2: in Israel and how that the that Israel is a
Speaker 2: colonial state and all of that, you know, garbage.
Speaker 6: The worst, the worst. One of the worst parts of
Speaker 6: it here, Dan is the fact that they throw away,
Speaker 6: throw around the racist card every chance they get. And
Speaker 6: and there's there's no I guess say, to use the
Speaker 6: N word is abhorrent, Okay, And that that that is
Speaker 6: in my family, it won't go. Okay, my grandkids know it.
Speaker 6: Sell you what there's there's there's all. So there's also
Speaker 6: when you call somebody a racist, Okay, that's just as
Speaker 6: that's just as bad when they're not. You know, they
Speaker 6: just they they're using it right now.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the equivalent. It's it's it sort of ends
Speaker 2: any rational conversation. And it also, in my opinion, and
Speaker 2: I always am willing to consider another argument, it also
Speaker 2: debases when all of a sudden everybody who disagrees with
Speaker 2: you happens to be racist, then that sort of undercuts
Speaker 2: the seriousness of of of genuine racism. I mean, you
Speaker 2: know they you know, relation to which I belong basically
Speaker 2: teaches that all children are created by by God. Now
Speaker 2: you don't have to believe in God. That's fine. I
Speaker 2: can't convince you that there's God. You can't convince me
Speaker 2: there isn't. But that's that's fine. I'm like a let
Speaker 2: live lit let and let live and let live Catholic, Okay,
Speaker 2: but I have problems with the Catholic Church. I had
Speaker 2: a long conversation with a friend of mine today and
Speaker 2: it may become the topic of a show later this
Speaker 2: week that.
Speaker 6: I think, you know, the tolerance part of it is,
Speaker 6: you know, the left is so intolerant. It's just it's
Speaker 6: just diversity, diversity, diversity. That they're the most intolerant people
Speaker 6: that I know, I know, you know, they just and
Speaker 6: that's exactly the way that the people, the Democrats look
Speaker 6: down their noses that anybody in maga, Maga, maga, that's
Speaker 6: all you they try to they try to put you know,
Speaker 6: the maga is and and uh, you know, they just
Speaker 6: they link it up with racism all the time, and
Speaker 6: they link it up with homophobia, and it's just bs.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, well, I don't know if we're ever going
Speaker 2: to get back to the point of civility in this country,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to try here on nightside. As long
Speaker 2: as I'm here to try, I'll.
Speaker 6: Be careful Dan, because like I said, you give him
Speaker 6: an insult A take them all all.
Speaker 2: Right, Bill, appreciate your call as always, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Ian in San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 2: I welcome back. How are you.
Speaker 7: I'm fine, Dan?
Speaker 8: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Did you see this? I did not
Speaker 2: see it, And I'm trying to find it today, and
Speaker 2: it looks as if NBC has pretty much erased it
Speaker 2: from the web.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry that I erased it from my viewing
Speaker 7: list because I would have gone back to it. So
Speaker 7: what I can say is I agree with all of
Speaker 7: the people that spoke prior to myself, but at the
Speaker 7: time I saw it as art and it was beautiful,
Speaker 7: the costumes, et cetera. It was a headless horseman walking
Speaker 7: down the table. I just I had no idea it
Speaker 7: was that it was part of the Last Supper. Uh
Speaker 7: well the organizer.
Speaker 2: Just the organizers saying it's not And as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, we have that spokesperson. So I mean again,
Speaker 2: they're not saying, oh yeah, we we intended to blaspheme,
Speaker 2: you know, the Last Supper or anything like that. They're
Speaker 2: they're saying, no, it wasn't that. So let's if you
Speaker 2: if you could have that opinion, go ahead.
Speaker 7: I didn't see the Last Supper in it, but I
Speaker 7: wasn't watching intently. I just I love the art of it,
Speaker 7: and I think that if people are upset, maybe and
Speaker 7: if it was even an intiment to the last suburbs
Speaker 7: just not relevant and portrayed like that.
Speaker 2: Let me play for you real quickly. This is the
Speaker 2: spokesperson for Paris twenty twenty four. Her name is in
Speaker 2: the Camp de camp Rob. This is cut number fifteen.
Speaker 2: I want Ian to respond to this cut fifteen Rob.
Speaker 9: Clearly, there was never an intention to show this respect
Speaker 9: to any religious group. On the contrary, I think that
Speaker 9: to imagine he really trying to really intend to celebrate
Speaker 9: community tolerance. That was his word yesterday, and are looking
Speaker 9: at the result of the polls that we shared. We
Speaker 9: believe that this ambition was achieved. If people have taken
Speaker 9: any offense, we are of course really really sorry.
Speaker 2: So I assume that you accept that you know that
Speaker 2: that statement. I don't think it's an apology, but.
Speaker 7: It's I agree with her, Okay, I mean, if you
Speaker 7: want to look deep, you know, I believe we're all
Speaker 7: God's children. So let's rise above that anger. Don't let
Speaker 7: people win with and make you angry, because it is
Speaker 7: a part of suppression, you know, to keep you home
Speaker 7: from voting to loose hope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 7: That you know, so don't allow that to move on.
Speaker 7: We're all God's children. God loves us all.
Speaker 2: I would hope. So I'm if he does we're all
Speaker 2: in trouble. Or if she doesn't, thank you, Anne, appreciate
Speaker 2: your call.
Speaker 7: Thank you, bye bye day. Either way, Dan, the whole
Speaker 7: opening ceremonies was very Parisian and very beautiful. The Sand
Speaker 7: River is an amazing place, and the way they did
Speaker 7: it and seeing our athletes. We have the largest contingent
Speaker 7: of athletes, we have the largest uh participating and it
Speaker 7: was a beautiful thing. It was all beautiful.
Speaker 2: Well that's great. Well God, I'm sorry I missed it,
Speaker 2: but I was working bangs An.
Speaker 7: Thank you, bye bye.
Speaker 2: Good night, quick break for the news. The only lines
Speaker 2: that are open right now would be six one, seven,
Speaker 2: nine three, one ten thirty. Particularly if you saw it.
Speaker 2: I'd love to know what your impression was. Okay, obviously
Speaker 2: we have a couple of different viewpoints here. Amongst my
Speaker 2: first few callers, love to hear from you six one, seven,
Speaker 2: nine three, one ten thirty. The other lines are all full.
Speaker 2: You want to get in six one, seven, nine three,
Speaker 2: one ten thirty back after this, It's Night Side with Dan.
Speaker 8: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: So, if you saw the opening ceremony of the Olympics
Speaker 2: and you'd like to come in, I got a couple
Speaker 2: of open lines at six one, seven, nine thirty. In
Speaker 2: the meantime, let us get back to the call. It's
Speaker 2: going to go to John in Boston. John, you were
Speaker 2: next on nightside. Welcome back, John, How are you tonight?
Speaker 8: Good Dan?
Speaker 3: Thank you Dan. I was just thinking of France and
Speaker 3: always losing his culture to the Muslim population.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And it's France is the land of Saint Bernadette from Lord's,
Speaker 3: Saint Teresa's, Saint John Vionni, Saint Vincent de Paul. And
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, father Jacques Samel had his throats's throat slit.
Speaker 3: He was eighty years old. I was at that sure
Speaker 3: to visit. They came to muslimtaries, came in the back
Speaker 3: and Slid just wrote while he was saving saying mass
Speaker 3: and he has the transgender community Dan calling for tolerance
Speaker 3: and acceptance, inclusivity. And then they marked Jesus at the
Speaker 3: Last Supper by having a fat guy he's obees with
Speaker 3: man boobs. Basically representing Jesus with transgender apostles is extremely offensive. Actually,
Speaker 3: in the life, we just had the seventy fifth anniversary
Speaker 3: of D. D. Dan and that cemetery there is loaded
Speaker 3: with crosses from Christian men who died to save France
Speaker 3: and and stars of David who men who offered their
Speaker 3: lives lives to save France from the from the Nazis.
Speaker 3: How do they if all the Catholics and Christians leave France,
Speaker 3: Dan tomorrow, how do they think those terrorists are going
Speaker 3: to treat their lifestyle, the transgender community? And so it's
Speaker 3: for them to say.
Speaker 2: Dan, it's well that there's some irony there. I mean,
Speaker 2: there there is some irony there. And if obviously, if
Speaker 2: if the folks who you know, who come up with this,
Speaker 2: this presentation, this idea, if they had mocked a different religion,
Speaker 2: they probably felt, hey, you know again, they're saying, we
Speaker 2: didn't mock religion. It was a whole different thing and
Speaker 2: was celebrating the gods of Mount Olympus. This is what
Speaker 2: they would That's what they're trying to say, which is fine,
Speaker 2: and maybe that's what they meant to do. But it's
Speaker 2: being perceived by a lot of people as you are.
Speaker 2: And I think the point that you make is it
Speaker 2: is an interesting one that people need to consider. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it was Benjamin Yatta who was talking about
Speaker 2: some folks who were out with signs that said Gaze
Speaker 2: for Gaza, And of course he thinks that the whole
Speaker 2: protest movement in this country has been supported financially by Iran.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's right or wrong, but that's
Speaker 2: his position. So he said that it's like saying, you know,
Speaker 2: holding size gaze for Gaza supported by Iran is like
Speaker 2: saying chickens for KFC. The idea is that if that,
Speaker 2: if you're if you happen to be gay or transgender,
Speaker 2: one place you don't want to be is Iran.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. I mean, Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: is not appointed. The borders are evidently the must be
Speaker 3: Santa Claus alive and they and they, they're saying that
Speaker 3: they're not trying to insult the Christian community. They wouldn't
Speaker 3: do it to Muhammadan. This is now they're insulting our intelligence.
Speaker 3: It's an intelligence. It's a joke. It's an absolute joke.
Speaker 3: I mean again, it's like, you know, another irony here
Speaker 3: is like that. This is a little bit along the
Speaker 3: same lines. But the onlygal immigrant that raped that girl
Speaker 3: in Rockland, mass was on national news. And then he
Speaker 3: gets off on five hundred dollars bill. And then there's
Speaker 3: a woman here in Massachusetts named Paula Paulette Harlow has
Speaker 3: to go to jail for free and the rosary and
Speaker 3: singing him an abortion clinics. She has to go to
Speaker 3: jail in august in Fort Worth, Texas for praying and
Speaker 3: or wild you but they'll let that guy out.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I think John, Yeah, Well, first of all,
Speaker 2: the guy done in Rockland, it's an allegation, hasn't been
Speaker 2: convicted yet, so he enjoys the presumption of innocence. Don't
Speaker 2: want to get too loyal or lawyer in a regal.
Speaker 3: Jam, but not only in a public opinion. Every one, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, let's if we're gonna a convict him
Speaker 2: of the murder of the rape, let's at least let
Speaker 2: the trial go forward. That's number one. In terms of
Speaker 2: the woman praying the rosary, And I've heard about this story.
Speaker 2: What happens is it's it's she's really not from what
Speaker 2: I understand, she's she's praying the rosary in the front
Speaker 2: of a door and blocking access to the building. I
Speaker 2: don't think that if she's standing one hundred feet from
Speaker 2: the front of the door to this abortion clinic and
Speaker 2: praying the rosary. I don't think he's gonna be arrested
Speaker 2: for praying the rosary one hundred feet from the door.
Speaker 2: Do you know? I'm not trying to give you a
Speaker 2: hard time of just telling you what I as. I
Speaker 2: understand it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know the person. I know, I
Speaker 3: know the person. I know the circumstance. She's seventy eight
Speaker 3: year old grandmother with eight grand children, six kids. Brandon
Speaker 3: Rosie's singing whether it was in the clinical without she's
Speaker 3: going to zil for two years, Dan two years. And
Speaker 3: here's this guy rates a thirteen year old specialty.
Speaker 2: Again. You you're using that this is the guys he's
Speaker 2: accused of rape. Okay, I don't want to you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go all lawyer on you, John,
Speaker 2: but I think I gotta be fair.
Speaker 3: No, I know, I don't know problem be a fan. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he's on on five hundred dollars bail.
Speaker 5: That's pretty sure.
Speaker 2: I think that the dail is ludicrously low, ludicrously low. Okay,
Speaker 2: he's not an.
Speaker 3: Art of citizen. I mean, what about the guys who
Speaker 3: attacked the cops in New York that attack them, they
Speaker 3: let the go so well.
Speaker 2: I think I think those points we agree upon. In
Speaker 2: terms of the case of the woman, I just want
Speaker 2: to make sure that people understand this. My understanding is
Speaker 2: that what she was arrested for was blocking access to
Speaker 2: the abortion clinic, not She's not arrested for praying the Rosary.
Speaker 2: She might have been praying the Rosary while she was
Speaker 2: blocking access, but the crime is not praying praying the Rosary.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, John, I just want to I'd like,
Speaker 2: I'd like to keep it civil and also keep it accurate.
Speaker 3: No, I know, but she wasn't laying down in front
Speaker 3: of the door, so you get there's videos of it,
Speaker 3: so whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean again, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 2: you know more about it than I do. But but
Speaker 2: I think you understand the point I'm making and I
Speaker 2: do appreciate it exactly. Thanks John.
Speaker 3: But it's the double standard is with you know, to
Speaker 3: say that they're not mocking Christianity is a foss. It's
Speaker 3: a foss.
Speaker 2: Well, there surely were a lot of people who perceived
Speaker 2: it as and look, oftentimes when someone either makes a
Speaker 2: comment or or you know, says something to someone in
Speaker 2: some way, they might say, well, I didn't insult them,
Speaker 2: but it's but oftentimes it's like, hey, I feel like
Speaker 2: I've been insulted. So but but it doesn't look like
Speaker 2: it doesn't look like it looks to me. It's as
Speaker 2: a double standard. John, we can you and I can.
Speaker 3: It's an insult to the athletes because you know what,
Speaker 3: basically they went on the stage, it took all the
Speaker 3: attention put it on them, and now it takes away
Speaker 3: from all the athletes. It's a narcissistic, pathetic thing to
Speaker 3: do to the Olympics. It's just it's it's obvious, it's
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about this, we're not talking about who
Speaker 2: won this this medal of that medal. So I can'd
Speaker 2: of disagree with you that one, John, Thank you much.
Speaker 2: Well said, Uh, we're gonna go next to Gary in Rubern. Gary,
Speaker 2: you are next on Nightsacer right ahead.
Speaker 4: I just want you to know that John was the
Speaker 4: call of the night, call the month, and call of
Speaker 4: the year. That was an outstanding phone call.
Speaker 2: We've had a bunch of good phone call. We've had
Speaker 2: a bunch of Alex's phone call was a really good
Speaker 2: phone call. Ian's phone call. We've had some really good
Speaker 2: phone calls here, so you know. Uh, And if that
Speaker 2: was your favorite, that's fine with me. John always does
Speaker 2: a good job. What's what's on your mind? Gary?
Speaker 4: You just run my phone call?
Speaker 5: Not a bad joke. Huh.
Speaker 2: You got it there. I'm here. I'm absolutely wait to
Speaker 2: hear what you want to say about what you want
Speaker 2: to talk about.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, I'll tell you the truth. I didn't see this,
Speaker 4: but I didn't hear if you catch my drift on
Speaker 4: the end of the dial, that there was a transvestite
Speaker 4: transvestites of ceremony the opening.
Speaker 2: Of the Olympic ceremony and some people and there were
Speaker 2: a lot of people I guess who you were, drag queens, okay,
Speaker 2: and they they were gathered in a way in which
Speaker 2: many people felt it was reminiscent of da Vinci's painting
Speaker 2: of the Last Supper. Uh. And the organized is in
Speaker 2: Paris say, no, this was your You're misconstruing this. We
Speaker 2: were not here to insult anybody. And so that's why
Speaker 2: we're talking about it to see what people think. I haven't.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it myself because I tried to find
Speaker 2: it today. I googled it for a long time and
Speaker 2: I couldn't find it. Maybe there's there's someone who took
Speaker 2: videotape of it and has posted on YouTube. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna admit to you, I haven't seen it either.
Speaker 4: Gary.
Speaker 2: I've seen pictures of it. I've seen still pictures of it,
Speaker 2: and there's still pictures do look very reminiscent of Jesus
Speaker 2: and his disciples at a long table. But you know,
Speaker 2: I read the new I read the article in the
Speaker 2: New York Times that had some art professors who would know,
Speaker 2: who know a lot more about this sort of iconography
Speaker 2: iconography I should say, let me pronounce that correctly and
Speaker 2: art who Some said yes, some said no. That's why
Speaker 2: we're talking about it.
Speaker 4: Okay, three, Thanks one. I'm proud of you for just
Speaker 4: mentioning Nicky Hilly to being vice president. If not, of course,
Speaker 4: well it's not going to happen. She should be secretary
Speaker 4: of state. Trump has definitely got to put her up
Speaker 4: at a high command because that'll just command every woman
Speaker 4: to be with Trump to rightly so.
Speaker 2: But but he kind of appoint a secretary of state
Speaker 2: until he's elected president. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: You got to ruin the party, don't you.
Speaker 10: Dan. Okay, Now, he could announce, he could announce if
Speaker 10: he wants to that he's going to appoint you were
Speaker 10: me secretary of State or Nikki Haley, but he won't
Speaker 10: be able to officially nominate that person until he is
Speaker 10: the President of the United States or the president elect.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 4: Thanks. Yeah, I just want you to know out in
Speaker 4: the nine o'clock hour, you had that guy on for
Speaker 4: about ten minutes. You and him are going back and
Speaker 4: forth and so forth, and he was eating it up
Speaker 4: alive with the microphone. I mean, he wanted to eat
Speaker 4: the microphone and he was sounded great, and so did you.
Speaker 4: But again, I have to say it to all the calls,
Speaker 4: including me. Let the Nray talk. Now when he's done talking,
Speaker 4: you talk. I know you're excited like it's Christmas. You're
Speaker 4: opening up your first president and the last one and
Speaker 4: all that, and I know you agree with me, but
Speaker 4: the last one is this. Here's one. Tell me what
Speaker 4: you think of this. Since they did this type of
Speaker 4: think of ceremony and so forth, how about this, how
Speaker 4: about they mark their own type of the religion of
Speaker 4: Catholic religion or Christianity and have the preacher, the father
Speaker 4: of the priest, walked down the isle and his attire
Speaker 4: with a woman getting married and they kiss right there
Speaker 4: to send out the message, let's get these priests married
Speaker 4: and let's create a controversy that studs this world in
Speaker 4: the right direction, so there's no more sexual abuse.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's a huge leap. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure that the Catholic Church is going to go along
Speaker 2: with that anytime soon, but that's neither other. You know,
Speaker 2: there are married priests in the Catholic Church. You understand that, correct, No, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there actually are many of the episcopal former episcopal priests
Speaker 2: who have decided to not only convert to Catholicism, but
Speaker 2: have showed a desire to be Catholic priests, have been
Speaker 2: allowed into the Catholic Church as converts and now as
Speaker 2: Catholic priests, and their marriage to their wives, you know,
Speaker 2: came along with it. So that's the that's the truth.
Speaker 2: So when someone tells you they were no Catholic priests married,
Speaker 2: that's an exception.
Speaker 4: Well, Dan, like I said, I hope you're proud of
Speaker 4: my phone call, because nobody's proud of me.
Speaker 10: Ever, No, I'm always proud of your phone calls. Gary,
Speaker 10: Thank you much, thank you doctor you soon?
Speaker 2: All right? Good, all right? Where are we gonna go now?
Speaker 2: You know we gotta do. We gotta get We got
Speaker 2: two calls coming up of Canada and Maine, and we
Speaker 2: got to take a quick break. And we also if
Speaker 2: you want to get it in here real quickly, folks,
Speaker 2: I can get a couple extrasy in as well. Six
Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four ten thirty or six one
Speaker 2: seven thirty Back on night Side.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 1: nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Oulkay, let's go to New Brunswick. Daryl is up in
Speaker 2: New Brunswick. Daryl did this generate much controversy in Canada?
Speaker 1: Well, sure got my neighbors stirred up, I tell you right.
Speaker 1: And what happened, Well, it's we were having a visit
Speaker 1: last night there and talking and as neighbors do, and
Speaker 1: she was showing me this stuff and I'm going you
Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. So that's where you said
Speaker 1: you could not find some material and and stuff.
Speaker 2: Well I had trouble for I could not find the video.
Speaker 2: Today I found still pictures of it. And I was,
Speaker 2: you know, I put in all the different word combinations.
Speaker 2: So have you seen the video?
Speaker 1: Well, actually I just did a screen capture right prior
Speaker 1: to calling you to back you up if you need.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, I'll give you a couple of
Speaker 1: places to check out.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: One is ww CBC dot ca A and the title
Speaker 1: goes drag Queen calls out hypocrisy.
Speaker 8: So I say, so, it's www what www dot CBC
Speaker 8: dot c eight Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, okay.
Speaker 1: And another one would be on YouTube, and that's Talk
Speaker 1: TV and they have about a seven minute video on there.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And Fox News actually has I apologize for mentioning these,
Speaker 1: but it's to help you out. Yeah, and it's about
Speaker 1: a ten minute clip.
Speaker 2: Okay. I'll try to find it. I mean, you know again,
Speaker 2: I've I tried all day and I finally said, well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it anyway. Thanks, thank you, Darrel,
Speaker 2: appreciate it very much.
Speaker 1: Gets we get censored up here quite a bit too.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that we get sensored. My feeling
Speaker 2: is that that NBC I tried to find the Celine
Speaker 2: Dion song that she sang. My wife, who watched it
Speaker 2: told me that it was just one song that she sang.
Speaker 2: But I get a feeling that NBC has paid so
Speaker 2: much money for their rights, they're not sharing it and
Speaker 2: not making it it broadly available. Maybe they'll make it
Speaker 2: available after the Olympics. I just don't know. But darl
Speaker 2: this has been very helpful. Thank you for much for
Speaker 2: this information.
Speaker 1: Well one more thing, when you go to Italy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my wife, her and her mother kept saying the money,
Speaker 1: the money. I said, stop worrying about the money. She goes, No,
Speaker 1: the money means tomorrow. The money, the money, The money
Speaker 1: means tomorrow. So if you're in Italy, people saying the
Speaker 1: money the money, okay, right, arguing about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well in Spanish it's manyana and so I got,
Speaker 2: I know, got to say tomorrow in a couple of languages. Now,
Speaker 2: thanks Darren, I appreciate it. You soon have a great night.
Speaker 2: All right. Let me go to Alison in Maine. Alison,
Speaker 2: welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 11: I just I can't believe the things you people get.
Speaker 11: We're on you people. I shouldn't say that, but I
Speaker 11: can't think that you get worked up about who cares?
Speaker 11: I mean, who cares? It's just a it's a crazy
Speaker 11: art thing at the beginning of the Olympics. I haven't
Speaker 11: seen it. I don't watch the Olympics really. I kind
Speaker 11: of like to see the pre show now because it
Speaker 11: sounds interesting, But I don't really care about sports, so
Speaker 11: I haven't seen the Olympics. But I mean, just all
Speaker 11: the things you ever seen films like that Ken Russell
Speaker 11: The Devil, you know, I mean, you know the idea
Speaker 11: that this is. You know, oh boy, they're ridiculing this
Speaker 11: religion or something.
Speaker 2: Well, well, there were people, Alison who feel very strongly
Speaker 2: about their particular religion and they get faked.
Speaker 11: What about the history of that religion? You heard a
Speaker 11: little thing called the Inquisition that went on for centuries.
Speaker 11: How about that or the persecution of the witches or
Speaker 11: the destructions of cultures all around the world.
Speaker 2: Because so you don't you don't like, which is fine.
Speaker 2: You think Christianity is a bad thing, absolutely, OKAYO, Well
Speaker 2: let me ask you this question. Could I ask you
Speaker 2: a question, Yes, do you have any idea how much
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church has contributed and donated to society?
Speaker 11: Meanings that go through the centuries, where if you said
Speaker 11: one word against it. You were sent to prison and
Speaker 11: torture it and killed.
Speaker 2: Let me if you'd love to ask you the question,
Speaker 2: to give you a chance to answer it unless you're
Speaker 2: afraid of If you're afraid of my question, just tell
Speaker 2: me and I won't ask the question.
Speaker 11: Oh okay, go on.
Speaker 2: You have any idea how much organize religions, and particularly
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church in particular, has given in terms of hospitals,
Speaker 2: medical care.
Speaker 11: Yeah, see, everybody to believe in it, and you've got
Speaker 11: to believe in the crap and go to the ceremonies
Speaker 11: and all that or else.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a thoughtful answer, Alison. You disappoint me
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't let me finish the question. And then,
Speaker 2: no matter what I say to you, you think, is
Speaker 2: it just Christianity you don't like? Are there any religions?
Speaker 11: Because that's what I'm surrounded by mostly. I'm not a
Speaker 11: big fan of Islam either. My defense of the Palestinians
Speaker 11: is not based on their religion. It's based on the
Speaker 11: fact that they're being wiped out by the wayward. They're
Speaker 11: almost up to that. When we were talking months ago
Speaker 11: and you said, and finally you got exasperated and said,
Speaker 11: it's okay if they kill forty thousand Palestinians, where they're
Speaker 11: almost up to that, now they're up to thirty nine thousands.
Speaker 10: I think that Israel needs to do what it needs
Speaker 10: to do to defend itself. Are you also antisemitical?
Speaker 11: Do you believe the Jews are sacred because there was
Speaker 11: a magic guy two thousand years ago, even though the
Speaker 11: Jewish people don't believe that Jesus was magic themselves.
Speaker 2: Well, again, you can reduce it to whatever you want.
Speaker 2: I happen to believe that that Jesus is God incarnate
Speaker 2: and that he came to the world.
Speaker 11: Billion years and the urthing rept four billion? What about
Speaker 11: the one hundred and fifteen million years of dinosaur's rule?
Speaker 11: How about the even longer did the Trilobytes rule?
Speaker 2: All right, you get it all written down. You get
Speaker 2: it all written down.
Speaker 11: You're a superstitious dullard.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you very much. It's it's a pleasure
Speaker 2: to talk with you. You know. Can I ask you
Speaker 2: one question? Is she gone? Oh? She hung up? Well
Speaker 2: that's a courageous caller. I wanted to ask her what
Speaker 2: she did for a living and what her life was like,
Speaker 2: because I'll bet you shees a miserable, lonely person somewhere
Speaker 2: in mean without any sort of gainful employment. That's what
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask, Alison, call back some night and
Speaker 2: tell me what you do for a living and what
Speaker 2: you're what your social life is like. Well, anyway, on
Speaker 2: that happy note, we'll end as always Rob great, great job, Mariita,
Speaker 2: Thanks very much for all your help today to all
Speaker 2: the callers, particularly thank you for calling all dogs, all cats,
Speaker 2: all pets go to Heaven. That's Mi pal Charlie Rays,
Speaker 2: who passed fourteen years ago in February. That's where all
Speaker 2: your pets are who are passed. I do believe you'll
Speaker 2: see them again. I sure hope we'll see them again.
Speaker 2: I hope see you in mornight at the Nightside.
Speaker 10: Have a great Tuesday, everybody, Dan ray for Nightside