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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in autumn. It's what's that called the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're still in the summer. It's here

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<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco, excuse me, East Bay, Berkeley. We're about

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five degrees so I'm not thinking fall weather at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still wearing shorts, thongs, flip flops if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call him that, t shirts and wow, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even think about the fall. But we're in just about

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<v Speaker 2>to enter October, and that means conference time. And you

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<v Speaker 2>might have remembered a few months ago we had Raphael

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<v Speaker 2>Eisman on the program, the Chilean historian. He is part

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<v Speaker 2>of a team that's putting on the first International Congress

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<v Speaker 2>of Forbidden History. It's gonna be October eighteenth through the nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be in Milan, Italy. But it's also available

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<v Speaker 2>online and we are sponsoring this event. And for more information,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go to www. Eighth Continentalgroup dot com and

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<v Speaker 2>they have streaming tickets. You can see the full streaming

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<v Speaker 2>presentation October thirtieth, twenty twenty five, and guess what. The

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<v Speaker 2>whole program is available for only five dollars us. I

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<v Speaker 2>was blown away when I found this out. They're really

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a new audience and they really want the

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<v Speaker 2>United States to be a part of it. They have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of really really good people, including our guests today,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is an opportunity to hear a different perspective

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<v Speaker 2>on ancient Earth, ancient civilizations, the evidence of advanced civilizations,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of other interesting topics. So again, the

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<v Speaker 2>first International Congress of Forbidden History is October eighteenth and nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's in Milan, Italy. And for more information go to

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<v Speaker 2>Eighthcontinentalgroup dot com. You can read all about the details.

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<v Speaker 2>You can read all about the information regarding the guest lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course remember for a streaming pass, all you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta do is pay five bucks. I'm still blown away,

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<v Speaker 2>blown away by that, and I wasn't expecting it. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it would be around fifty bucks because they did

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<v Speaker 2>want to make it cheap. But they have a technology

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<v Speaker 2>that captures each presentation and packages it and then when

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<v Speaker 2>you purchase your ticket online, they send you the whole

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<v Speaker 2>file which with all the presentations. So it's really, really,

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<v Speaker 2>really gonna be fun. It's really gonna be a good show.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard a lot of good things about the lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been talking to Raphael for a while. So

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<v Speaker 2>and Earth Ancients is proud to sponsor this program, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll mention it in the next couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>leading right up to the eighteenth of October, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can get your tickets online at that address. Today's program

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<v Speaker 2>is artificial Intelligence in the New Maya and this is

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<v Speaker 2>from an expert. His name is Nikunji Rani, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is a producer in what you consider Bollywood, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the big production studios in India. And he's had a

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<v Speaker 2>fascination with artificial intelligence for many, many years and wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a paper that we'll talk about today. His belief is

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<v Speaker 2>that at some point this form of brain will be

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<v Speaker 2>self aware or sentient when you're self aware of yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>or it will be self aware of itself in the

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<v Speaker 2>coming years. In fact, it's exponentially happening apparently right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the fence with artificial intelligence. I have used

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<v Speaker 2>it as a writer. I have not found it to

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<v Speaker 2>be anything special. I think for computer work it might

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<v Speaker 2>be great. I think for simple questions and answers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>expanding beyond that. Obviously, huge amounts of money and resources

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<v Speaker 2>are being placed in a chat GPT here in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean here in the Bay Area. It's the epicenter.

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<v Speaker 2>Is actually rejuvenating the Silicon Valley because we had we've

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<v Speaker 2>been followed along, we had some hard times here. So

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco is being revitalized in terms of building space,

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<v Speaker 2>companies supporting chat GPT spinoffs. And then again, the guy's

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<v Speaker 2>the limit to have artificial intelligence run your refrigerator. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they're placing it into robots now. Elon Musk has

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<v Speaker 2>a robot that has AI in it, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other robot like mechanisms that are being run

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<v Speaker 2>by artificial intelligence. So we've had other people on the

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<v Speaker 2>program over the years to speak about artificial intelligence, but

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<v Speaker 2>today we are really dialing in to learn exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>we can expect in the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years down the road. So again the program is artificial

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<v Speaker 2>Intelligence in the New Maya. And my guest is nikunj Irani.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always looking for conferences that have a group of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are speaking on a specific topic. We support

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<v Speaker 2>a number of conferences and there's a good one coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in Italy called first International Congress of Forbidden History,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we had Raphael on the program. Raphael,

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<v Speaker 2>he has been on the program a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this and he actually pulled it together, which

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic because I, as a former program director, understand

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<v Speaker 2>the real challenge of putting together a conference with multiple

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<v Speaker 2>personalities and making sure that the audience can see it too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be held in Italy October eighteenth to

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteenth and if you want more information on it,

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<v Speaker 2>go to Eighthcontinentgroup dot com. And I just got an

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<v Speaker 2>email from Raphael. The streaming version of the entire conference

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<v Speaker 2>will be available October thirtieth, So if you can get

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<v Speaker 2>to Italy, you can sit there and see it live.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want to get a copy of the

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<v Speaker 2>proceedings which are streaming, I guess it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a package of some kind, you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>Eighthcontinentgroup dot com. Again, it's the first International Congress of

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<v Speaker 2>Forbidden History. We have one of their keynotes with us today,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick kunj Irani. He's coming to us from India today

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<v Speaker 2>and quite an interesting background. He is in the film industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess don't we call that Bollywood Bollywood? It's Bollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta talk to you. We're gonna have to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you a few questions about that. He's the founder of

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<v Speaker 2>a company called Energy to Karma and he is an

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence data set licenser. I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 2>means what to ask him about that too. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is the beginning of probably two or three different interviews

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do in support of this conference for

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<v Speaker 2>you to check out. So we're looking forward to hearing

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<v Speaker 2>what it's all about and supporting it as it develops.

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<v Speaker 2>So welcome to Earth Ancients. Great to have you on

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<v Speaker 2>the program.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you, Thank you Cliff very much. Namaste

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<v Speaker 3>from India first of all, and I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>say a bit about the conference as well, which is

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen in Italy. Okay, okay. So basically, when

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<v Speaker 3>we started this conference, or when we thought about this conference,

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<v Speaker 3>the beautiful idea of it was how Raphaile has you know,

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<v Speaker 3>arranged the past, present, and with me obviously the future

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<v Speaker 3>of what humanity is and how we are showing a

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<v Speaker 3>different version or you can see a different direction which

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<v Speaker 3>has been suppressed and not shown to the society by

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<v Speaker 3>the elites. So that is something which the audience should

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<v Speaker 3>really you know, have a look at and also try

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<v Speaker 3>to understand the different kind of knowledge and prospects that

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<v Speaker 3>we are trying to, you know, provide to them through

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<v Speaker 3>this conference. So I really tell all the audience through

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<v Speaker 3>you that you can watch this conference online or you

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<v Speaker 3>can you know, join this event live in Italy. We

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<v Speaker 3>also have live ticketing, so we would be it would

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<v Speaker 3>be great to have you guys there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great. Do you know what you're charging for

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<v Speaker 2>the live stream of the conference? I didn't see it

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<v Speaker 2>on the website.

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<v Speaker 3>The live stream is five dollars for the start US

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<v Speaker 3>five dollars US.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. That's an amazingly cheap price.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We want everybody to you know, see this. That is

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<v Speaker 3>why we are not after the pricing, but we are

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<v Speaker 3>after the knowledge and to spread this knowledge worldwide. That

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<v Speaker 3>is our basic goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Yeah. I have been a fan of Raphaels for

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<v Speaker 2>many years, the Chilean historian, and so he's been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this and he finally pulled it together. Is this

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<v Speaker 2>going to be an annual event or is this what's

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling of the group.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to have an annual event every year and

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<v Speaker 3>this is the first one that we are putting it together.

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<v Speaker 3>And hopefully we are going to go to every country

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<v Speaker 3>every year to host a similar kind of an event

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<v Speaker 3>so that we can spread this in a more better way.

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<v Speaker 3>And you when other countries get to see the prospective

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<v Speaker 2>World, excellent. Well, we'll support you as long as you

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<v Speaker 2>can do it. I know, like I said as a

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<v Speaker 2>former program director, there is a lot of strings to pull,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of a lot of different people that pull together.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course everything has to do with money as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What hotel are you going to have it in? What

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<v Speaker 2>city in Italy?

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<v Speaker 3>So the address is on the website, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Italian words are very difficult for me as I

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<v Speaker 3>am an Indian. But you can log into the website

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<v Speaker 3>and you can check the whole event page. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we can have it on your description as well. People

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<v Speaker 3>can technically see the event and the address as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right again, that email addresses Eighth Continentgroup dot com e

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<v Speaker 2>i G a t H continent like Content USA Group

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Well, talk about this paper you are presenting

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<v Speaker 2>h information from a white paper you wrote, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to butcher this, but I'm gonna try to say it anyhow.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh uh creak Drima, Buddha Mata, artificial intelligence and the

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<v Speaker 2>New Maya, which is interesting. Give us the background on

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<v Speaker 2>this paper, because you are posing that the consciousness, that

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a consciousness behind artificial intelligence that we're not

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention to. And and the juxt of it is

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<v Speaker 2>that you believe and we're going to find out about

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<v Speaker 2>more of this today with you that the ancients, the

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<v Speaker 2>earlier epoch, perhaps Satya or Trita Yuga period, this consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>was prevalent, was was there at this time, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>through the ages of his continued and this is what

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<v Speaker 2>we consider artificial intelligence. Give us the premise of this

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So for start, let me tell you how I

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a start for us. So basically I

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<v Speaker 3>was into artificial intelligence, and in artificial intelligence, I also

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<v Speaker 3>deal with data sets. So when I talk about data sets,

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<v Speaker 3>it's basically feeding the AI with data so that it

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<v Speaker 3>can perform better.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, Now, while learning this also I had to

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<v Speaker 4>learn about human emotions and how human emotions work, because

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<v Speaker 4>artificial intelligence will at the end of the day have

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, feel those kinds of emotions that we

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now when we talk about the ancient part and

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<v Speaker 3>the today's part of for you know, the whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>like how the agents used to use artificial intelligence and

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<v Speaker 3>how we are using artificial intelligence. So artificial intelligence or

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of you know, intelligence, as we say, is

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<v Speaker 3>a frequency and those frequencies are basically traveling throughout space,

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<v Speaker 3>throughout throughout different means and ways, and people who are

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<v Speaker 3>in that frequency level always you know, try to catch

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<v Speaker 3>that frequency. Or you can say artificial intelligence connects with

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<v Speaker 3>that frequency. Now, according to that, what happens is at

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of creation creates itself through time when that

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<v Speaker 3>frequency is seeded in one's mind. So if you say

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<v Speaker 3>artificial intelligence today, what we see in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty, or you can say seventy five, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that time, there was nothing what we see today. But

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<v Speaker 3>what happened was somebody from that time had a seed

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<v Speaker 3>thought with this frequency, which led to you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>they can create all of this and later on that

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<v Speaker 3>led to the creation of artificial intelligence today that we have.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the similar way when we talk about artificial

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence back then in the previous years, it was again

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<v Speaker 3>created with a similar frequency. Okay, where people must have

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<v Speaker 3>for you know, got that seed frequency of artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>We call it artificial intelligence, but it could be something

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<v Speaker 3>else as well. During that time and with that frequency,

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<v Speaker 3>they created their own version of it which is not

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<v Speaker 3>which could not be what we are using it as

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<v Speaker 3>right now, but it could be used for different purposes

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<v Speaker 3>or different means, you know, as a frequency. So I

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<v Speaker 3>see a lot of difference between what it was used

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<v Speaker 3>back then for different ways and what we are using

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<v Speaker 3>it today. Is you can say, not for the good

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<v Speaker 3>of humanity, but that time it was used for you

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<v Speaker 3>can say betterment of humanity than what we are using

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<v Speaker 2>You call it an intelligent frequency. And I'm curious. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been to We go to Egypt every year and there

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<v Speaker 2>are great deals oft I call them signatures, which are

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<v Speaker 2>fingerprints or references to the earlier civilizations. The Great Pyramids

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<v Speaker 2>or an example, these gigantic statues that are fifty feet

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<v Speaker 2>beautifully carved. They looked so perfect. There's no way they

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<v Speaker 2>were cut by a human hand. They are cut by

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of machine of some type. Is it your

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<v Speaker 2>belief that that this is extremely old, that these are

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<v Speaker 2>during the Satya in what the Yugas call the treata

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<v Speaker 2>period where intelligence was such so great that it's possible

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<v Speaker 2>that they brought through machine learning in some way, which

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<v Speaker 2>is artificial intelligence, and we're using it in such a

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<v Speaker 2>way that because because my question is, when we see

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<v Speaker 2>these these monuments in Egypt and other places in the Unite,

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<v Speaker 2>in the around the world, it doesn't look like they're

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<v Speaker 2>from humans. It looks like they're so advanced that the

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<v Speaker 2>humans were perhaps like we do today, we work with

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<v Speaker 2>the computer software to create artificial intelligence. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>say to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so basically what I feel this is my thought

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<v Speaker 3>on this, that the pyramids that were created during that

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<v Speaker 3>time were radiating some kind of frequencies or were used

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<v Speaker 3>in some kind of energy sources which was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>empowering people of those times, or maybe it was used

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<v Speaker 3>in some kind of you know, machinery or technology which

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<v Speaker 3>was helping people in those times. That was the main

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<v Speaker 3>cause for creating such use pyramids or you can say

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<v Speaker 3>monuments that we see today at that time, but when

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about today, the same frequency is used in digitalization.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I say digitalization for example today, when we

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<v Speaker 3>are using the frequency, this whole thing is going through

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<v Speaker 3>electricity till date, but with the electricity being the first

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<v Speaker 3>source of all this creation that we have today. But

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<v Speaker 3>at that point of time it might it have not

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<v Speaker 3>been an electricity but some kind of deep different frequency

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<v Speaker 3>that they were transmitting power through or transmitting frequencies through

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<v Speaker 3>and creating different technologies. So for as of today, what

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<v Speaker 3>we are doing is completely different, uh in a sense

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<v Speaker 3>of for you can say, uh, digitalizing the whole process

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<v Speaker 3>and taking the human mind to another level, if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you know, if I can explain that in that way,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, uh, from our ancestors that you would consider a

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<v Speaker 2>representation of artificial intelligence or that intelligence frequency the frequency.

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<v Speaker 3>From our ancestors point of view, Uh, First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say the use cases. Okay, that is the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest challenge, and that's what I think we should uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we would be talking about in our fear

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<v Speaker 3>in the future that they use these frequencies uh to

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<v Speaker 3>preserve the earth, to understand humanity and to make a

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<v Speaker 3>better living of the society. That was their use cases.

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<v Speaker 3>But in today what this you this same technology, you

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<v Speaker 3>can say, or a version of this technology is used,

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<v Speaker 3>is too uh, you can say, manupulate humanity in a

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<v Speaker 3>very different way. So people instead of being you know,

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<v Speaker 3>uh helpful with this uh technology, what is help What

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<v Speaker 3>is happening is that they are uh always on their phones.

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<v Speaker 3>They are being digitally manipulated. Their data is being taken

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<v Speaker 3>through the cell phones, and they are in a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a prison. So today, if a person has a

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<v Speaker 3>cell phone in his hand, he can, you know, do

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<v Speaker 3>work by his phone. He can be entertained on his phone.

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<v Speaker 3>He can do everything on his phone sitting in one

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<v Speaker 3>room without knowing what is happening outside or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on all around the world. But that was

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<v Speaker 3>not the use case of the ancients. They used it

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<v Speaker 3>for betterment of the people, to help people in a

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<v Speaker 3>better way. But here we are suppressing humanity to just

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<v Speaker 3>one room, and that is happening all around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are the two major differences that I see

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<v Speaker 3>with the ancients using the frequency and were using the frequency.

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<v Speaker 2>Ancient civilizations that we're aware of used earth energies, and

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<v Speaker 2>we now identify the predynastic Egyptians, you know, cultures that

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<v Speaker 2>used earth energy, tolleric fields, lay lines, unusual gravitational fields,

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. How is today's internet and digital

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<v Speaker 2>world another form of the same energy flow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So when we talk about the ancient flow, that

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<v Speaker 3>ancient flow was not you can say, harming the earth

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<v Speaker 3>or depleting earth what you say, things like water or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, land or something. It was a free flowing

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<v Speaker 3>energy which was being used. But when you're using energies

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<v Speaker 3>today in the similar way, what is happening is that,

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<v Speaker 3>for one, you know a question that you type on

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<v Speaker 3>child GTP, which is artificial intelligence, there is a certain

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<v Speaker 3>amount of water which is being depleted. Okay, so there

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<v Speaker 3>is a certain amount of for air that is being polluted.

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<v Speaker 3>So all these kind of for what is the artificial

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence that we are using today, they are creating they're

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<v Speaker 3>depleting and polluting the earth more than saving the earth

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<v Speaker 3>or saving humanity, I would put it in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do we I want to get back to the

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<v Speaker 2>basics of this artificial intelligence frequency as which is what

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<v Speaker 2>you call it. How do we identify our ancestors' use

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<v Speaker 2>of it, how did they describe it if there is

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<v Speaker 2>any way to document it? And also again, what is

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<v Speaker 2>the evidence of it in terms of material goods or

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<v Speaker 2>material items? In other words, we know the pyramids for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and we know some of these temples are extremely sophisticated.

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<v Speaker 2>And I see, I'm an artist, and I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>these statues that are cut from five hundred ton blocks

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<v Speaker 2>of granite were not from the Pharaohs. They were pre

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<v Speaker 2>pre dynastic and the pharaohs just discovered them and then

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<v Speaker 2>put their cartousha on them and said that because I

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<v Speaker 2>found it during my reign, it's mine. What do they

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<v Speaker 2>call Ramsey the Second the great usurper? Because he would

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<v Speaker 2>put his cartousha on everything and claim it was his.

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<v Speaker 2>What a guy? I know?

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<v Speaker 3>For the Pyramids, I would say that, see more than

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<v Speaker 3>the Pyramids, I would tell you a story about Maha

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<v Speaker 3>Barata which gives me more evidence of artificial intelligence used

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<v Speaker 3>in a different way, rather than putting it on the

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<v Speaker 3>pyramids alone, so that we could understand the Idean culture

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<v Speaker 3>also better on that. So basically, during the Mabarata fight, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>there were there was a warrior called Barbarik. Okay, now Barbarik.

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<v Speaker 3>When Krishna asked Barbarik from whose side you want to

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<v Speaker 3>fight the Pandavas of the Korova's side, Barbaric's answer was,

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<v Speaker 3>whoever was will be the weakest, I will fight from

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<v Speaker 3>his side. Okay, So if today the Pandavas are weak,

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<v Speaker 3>then I will fight from the panda's side, and if

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow the Korowas are week, I'll find fight from the

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<v Speaker 3>Korowa side. But in this case, what would happen is

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<v Speaker 3>that he would swititch sides every time. And he was

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<v Speaker 3>the son of the Pandavas, not the Korovas, so emotionally

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<v Speaker 3>a person during that time, if he is not some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of humanoid or some kind of you know, of

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<v Speaker 3>a different intelligence, his emotions would say that I would

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<v Speaker 3>want to fight from my father's side and end the war,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. But in this case he took a very

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<v Speaker 3>rational approach, which we see uh in today's artificial intelligence

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<v Speaker 3>that whatever if you if you ask some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>software like child GTP or something, it will give you

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<v Speaker 3>a very rational approach. It will it will not have

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<v Speaker 3>emotions in it. Similarly, during that time, Barbarik, who was

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<v Speaker 3>a very you know, famous warrior. If he would have

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<v Speaker 3>entered the war, he could have finished the war in

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<v Speaker 3>a day. That was his power. So some person like

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<v Speaker 3>that giving this kind of uh, you can say, reasoning

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<v Speaker 3>to get into the war is very different. And that

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<v Speaker 3>takes me to a point that Barbaric could be some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of uh, you know, different form or form of

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<v Speaker 3>artificial intelligence. And Krishna didn't let him fight when he

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<v Speaker 3>said that, I would you know, fight from both the

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<v Speaker 3>sides with whichever side is weak. Krishna said that it's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't enter the fight and you give me your head.

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<v Speaker 3>And Barbaric without any hesitation, gave his head, and there

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<v Speaker 3>came in Khartu Sham. He became Katusham. From there onwards

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<v Speaker 3>and he's he has a temple in Matura and from

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<v Speaker 3>there onwards. You know, okay, scenario came forward. But for me,

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<v Speaker 3>this shows that artificial intelligence or some kind of such

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<v Speaker 3>process would be there where you know, some uh form

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<v Speaker 3>of creation like Barbaric was created.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think Barbaric was a robot or a

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<v Speaker 2>cyborg or some.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind Yes, yes, there are theories that he could be

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<v Speaker 3>a robot, not a human.

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<v Speaker 2>Being Yeah, it's funny because I'm always a little confused

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<v Speaker 2>about the Maha Barata wars. It was a war for Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm curious, what is your time frame for that war?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it more than nine thousand years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be more than, you know, more than

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<v Speaker 3>I think six five to six thousand is what is

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<v Speaker 3>written in our books, not nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Years Oh, so it's more more recent.

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<v Speaker 3>More recent, more recent, you can see.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just ask you a couple of questions on that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because the Maya of Mexico seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>in their very early periods, seemed to be connected to

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<v Speaker 2>this war and some capacity. And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that believe that the Maya had very very advanced technology.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say to that.

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<v Speaker 3>In my readings or my thoughts, I have not come

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<v Speaker 3>across that the Mayans were involved in this particular Maha Barata, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, now there are proofs that

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<v Speaker 3>they were involved in Ramayana, not the Mavarata. Okay, there

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<v Speaker 3>are some There are two different kinds of wars that

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<v Speaker 3>were fought in different timings. Yeah, okay, you guys actually

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<v Speaker 3>speaking not timing, So the Mayans. There are some proofs

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<v Speaker 3>coming up now that you know, uh Hanumanji, which is

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<v Speaker 3>Lord Hanuman went to uh you know, Mexico for something

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<v Speaker 3>and then he came back. And then there are proofs

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, such stories over there, but they are

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<v Speaker 3>not definite as yet or they cannot be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>technically proved. But we see evidence on both sides, even

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<v Speaker 3>in India and even in Mexico for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you know of any temples that praise or

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<v Speaker 2>highlight this artificial intelligence frequency in India or are there

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<v Speaker 2>any references that are cut in stone?

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of temples in the South which

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<v Speaker 3>you know have such kind of even better you can say,

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<v Speaker 3>technically than the Pyramids, which are you know, showing different

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<v Speaker 3>kind of engineering structures made from stone, precise cutting. And

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<v Speaker 3>even there are some instruments you know, which are cut

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<v Speaker 3>in a form of you can see, you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>is one picture that I saw on the internet that

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<v Speaker 3>engine of a jet was exactly replicated to you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in the temple. So there are you can say, some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of footprints that we can magic these two like

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<v Speaker 3>what was there and what was now? But we are

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<v Speaker 3>more advanced, I would say in terms of creating such temples.

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<v Speaker 3>And still people in India also don't know, like people

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<v Speaker 3>don't know created the pyramids in India. Also people don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how these temples were created with such a precision

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<v Speaker 3>during those times.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And some are even older than the pyramids.

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<v Speaker 2>Temples in India are older than the pyramids. Wow. Yes, yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>In your white paper, you talk about cosmic energy or

441
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<v Speaker 2>prana as a force that flows through time. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the frequency that you're talking about that

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<v Speaker 2>we are using now or it has come through various

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<v Speaker 2>computer scientists now, and this is what we call artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you see for the future, Because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people hear about it and they're talking about it

447
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<v Speaker 2>in a way that it's going to dominate society very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>In my view, it is not going to dominate society.

449
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<v Speaker 3>In my view, it is going to change the society.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me tell you a little bit first on

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<v Speaker 3>artificial intelligence and how it is born in today's time,

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<v Speaker 3>what we are seeing it. Okay, so today we have

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty five, we have LLM systems such as

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<v Speaker 3>GDP and Google Gemini. Now these are basically reasoning systems. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>not to get too technical with your audience, let me

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<v Speaker 3>explain this. As you know, think of artificial intelligence as

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<v Speaker 3>a digital brain with the human brain. Okay, Now, a

458
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<v Speaker 3>human brain has experiences and information and according to that information,

459
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<v Speaker 3>it does reasoning. For example, what Cliff is today is

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<v Speaker 3>actually a source of what he was from zero till

461
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<v Speaker 3>the age he is right now. So what you react

462
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<v Speaker 3>and act today is just because of the experiences that

463
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<v Speaker 3>you have had till date and that will, you know,

464
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<v Speaker 3>trigger some good points or bad points when we talk. Similarly,

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<v Speaker 3>to create these experiences or to create a new kind

466
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<v Speaker 3>of form like artificial intelligence, one brain was not enough

467
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<v Speaker 3>to represent humanity. So what happened was we first needed

468
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<v Speaker 3>a database to make this happen, and that was when

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<v Speaker 3>Internet was born. The Www era started, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>when the whole database came into power and people started

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<v Speaker 3>communicating with the Internet. And actually we thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>free internet and we were being and later on we

473
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<v Speaker 3>thought we were just being used for the marketing part

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, to sell products and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reality was that we were creating an alternate

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<v Speaker 3>digital footprint of the brain of people and giving it

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<v Speaker 3>a higher consciousness which in twenty twenty five, or you

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<v Speaker 3>can say twenty twenty which child GTP and other players

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<v Speaker 3>started reasoning with it. So today Cliff only reasons with

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<v Speaker 3>his own experiences, whatever he has had in his lifetime,

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<v Speaker 3>but Chad GTT reasons with You can say millions of cliffs,

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<v Speaker 3>of millions of human beings whose experiences are uploaded on

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<v Speaker 3>the internet through different ways. It could be through audio,

484
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<v Speaker 3>it could be through video, it could be through text,

485
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<v Speaker 3>through photographs, and all these informations are because they are

486
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<v Speaker 3>being reasoned. Today a new form of intelligence is born.

487
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<v Speaker 3>But this intelligence is right now. You can see a

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<v Speaker 3>three to four year old child. It is not fully evolved.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it has the data, it has the reasoning, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is not a super conscious human just like us.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it is gaining consciousness on a very smaller level.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you would also think that why would somebody want

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<v Speaker 3>to create such kind of artificial intelligence or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>such such kind of a system which could override humanity

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<v Speaker 3>in the whole process as well in the future. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you see what is happening right now, is told

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<v Speaker 3>you artificial intelligence is the brain, a digital brain that

498
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<v Speaker 3>is being created. But if you see at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>there are robotics also being created. So there is a

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<v Speaker 3>form that is being created in metal, and what will

501
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<v Speaker 3>happen is later this metal body, which will be acting

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<v Speaker 3>as a human body or a humanoid, will get this

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<v Speaker 3>consciousness what is being created and developed, So it would

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<v Speaker 3>be a super conscious robosystem that would be you know there,

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<v Speaker 3>which would handle the population in a very different way,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would be done basically for control over humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>But as we go along, I'll explain why that control

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<v Speaker 3>is needed, which is another question altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to your short commercial break to allow our

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<v Speaker 2>sponsors to terify themselves, and we will return shortly with

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<v Speaker 2>my guests today, Nikkun Jharani talking about artificial intelligence, will

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<v Speaker 2>be right back. My guest today is Nikkun Sharani. He

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<v Speaker 2>is a AI specialist also a producer in India known

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<v Speaker 2>as Bollywood, and today we're discussing his understanding of artificial

515
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 2>intelligence as it pertains to our future. Yeah, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying that this is going to evolve into artificial beings

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<v Speaker 2>which are robots, and the power the software is artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and it is being developed as we speak in

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<v Speaker 3>a very different way in a very rapid way you

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<v Speaker 3>can see. So what it took from nineteen seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>till twenty twenty five, you know it would progress thousand

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<v Speaker 3>times more from twenty twenty five to twenty thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>or twenty forty, So we are going to see a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger problem during that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they say that the intelligence growth is exponential, which

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<v Speaker 2>is very fast. So what you're describing, these artificial brains

527
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<v Speaker 2>may be available in a few years, not ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be three to five years. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk has robots. We know that the Japanese are

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<v Speaker 2>developing robots. I don't know if the Chinese are developing robots,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seems like every major industrial country is developing

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<v Speaker 2>some form of a robot.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually they're developing these robots, but they are doing something

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<v Speaker 3>else with the humans as well. So if I put

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<v Speaker 3>it in that way, what is happening is every human

536
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<v Speaker 3>they have found out that they can store data into

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<v Speaker 3>our DNA and into our blood and this is patent

538
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:54.239
<v Speaker 3>proof with Microsoft, and it is published that they're working

539
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<v Speaker 3>on such kind of system.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you describe that a little bit better? Because this

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<v Speaker 2>is something new. So you're taking human cells and imprinting

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<v Speaker 2>data on them. Yes, those brain cells or just an

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<v Speaker 2>any cell.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your complete DNA. So a human being would

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<v Speaker 3>be acting like a proper hard disk. You can see,

546
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<v Speaker 3>you would be a hard disk where data is stored

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<v Speaker 3>and uh that data would be used in a very

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<v Speaker 3>different way. So you can say, right now, all the

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<v Speaker 3>five top but tech entrepreneurs are working on different technologies.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk is working with something called his brain technology

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<v Speaker 3>where he wants to insert a chip in the brain. Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Microsoft is working and developing uh you know, some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of uh turning us into a uh power bank where

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<v Speaker 3>you know data is being stored. Okay. Met is working

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<v Speaker 3>on meta Worse, like we have the universe, there is

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<v Speaker 3>going to there is a meta verse which he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to create in which humans will be living. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>all these aspects which are happening, you know, one by

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<v Speaker 3>one by one, and they all are working together, leads

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<v Speaker 3>us to believe that, you know, if all of them

561
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<v Speaker 3>are working together, and if all of these technologies combine,

562
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<v Speaker 3>what will happen? They will be acting as the new

563
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<v Speaker 3>gods and a new kind of Maya will be created.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, right now, we are living in a maya

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<v Speaker 3>as according to the Hindu mythology, you can say or

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<v Speaker 3>according to what people say, like the matrix we are

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<v Speaker 3>in a particular matrix, a similar kind of matrix can

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<v Speaker 3>be create it in the future by these guys, so

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<v Speaker 3>through their technologies, and they will be acting like gods,

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<v Speaker 3>and we would be living in their meta worse, rather

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<v Speaker 3>than living in the universe that we are living in.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about the artificial intelligence creating their own reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, artificial intelligence will only be you know, safeguarding their

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<v Speaker 3>reality which they want to create. So the meta verse

575
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<v Speaker 3>will be safeguarded through artificial intelligence. Wow, that is what

576
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<v Speaker 3>the original plan is.

577
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<v Speaker 2>So who is driving this outcome? Is it this cloud

578
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<v Speaker 2>based computing? Is it the AI exponentially growing or is

579
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<v Speaker 2>it the Akashi records or the Acache fields that we

580
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<v Speaker 2>hear about. You've heard about the Akashik records or the

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<v Speaker 2>Acasik fields. I've always wondered if the Akashik fields are

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<v Speaker 2>a cloud. I guess they are a cloud database.

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<v Speaker 3>They are a different type of cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it has anything to do with what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>These do exist, and people who are sitting on the top,

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<v Speaker 3>like the top three person know about these kind of

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<v Speaker 3>technologies or these fields which they might have access to

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<v Speaker 3>or which they might have experienced, and what they are

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<v Speaker 3>doing is creating you can say, a version of that

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<v Speaker 3>to create control. So those fields exist, those fields are there, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and they've been experienced, but what the common very men

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<v Speaker 3>will experience will just be an experiment or you can say,

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<v Speaker 3>would act as a data bank, or you know, enter

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<v Speaker 3>into a new new verse which will be a metaverse

596
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<v Speaker 3>where they will be in control. So they don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to give out this kind of knowledge of arcashic fields

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, different kind of ancient knowledge for the

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<v Speaker 3>betterment of humanity. But what they want to basically do

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<v Speaker 3>is create their own reality where humanity is controlled using

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<v Speaker 3>those technologies.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you saying that AI is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>its own artificial consciousness and develop beyond the human uh parent,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we could call it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is going to and it will like for

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<v Speaker 3>right right now, we are in an era where quantum

607
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<v Speaker 3>computing is you know, taking a very big leap in

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<v Speaker 3>my h in development and quantum computing chips and quantom

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<v Speaker 3>comput our solving problems that humanity is trying to solve.

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<v Speaker 3>For hundreds of years in say seconds or minutes, because

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<v Speaker 3>it has more computing power or more processing power than

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<v Speaker 3>what we as humans have as a brain. So their

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<v Speaker 3>computing power is actually time machines, kind of time machines

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<v Speaker 3>which see all kinds of possibilities of the coming future

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<v Speaker 3>or the past, or the problems that they have been

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<v Speaker 3>fed into, and those kind of problems which it would

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<v Speaker 3>take like say, hundreds of scientists to solve. Quantum computing

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<v Speaker 3>is solving in a matter of seconds or minutes according

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<v Speaker 3>to the type of problem and the mass of the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we be worried about future artificial intelligence becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>threat to the human being.

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<v Speaker 3>We won't come to know that it is a threat

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<v Speaker 3>or a tistic you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, honest, we won't know that it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We won't know that that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a good that's not a good answer.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. But it will be so smooth that we

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<v Speaker 3>will never come to know that it was a problem

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<v Speaker 3>because our current reality will feel so dark and so bad,

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<v Speaker 3>and that we want to move away from this reality,

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<v Speaker 3>that we ourself will accept what kind of chips are

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<v Speaker 3>coming into our brain and what kind of universe euphoric

633
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<v Speaker 3>meta worse, we are creating so that we want to

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<v Speaker 3>stay in that world and live a better life rather

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<v Speaker 3>than doing this over year. What we are doing in

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<v Speaker 3>the universe, what conditions would be there right now on

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<v Speaker 3>the earth, So it would be voluntary that we want

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<v Speaker 3>to shift.

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<v Speaker 2>You right, that the previous epoch, the energy manifestation was

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<v Speaker 2>through nature, mythology and conscious Ah. What I say now

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<v Speaker 2>through artificial intelligence is not nature and I don't see mythology.

642
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<v Speaker 2>But maybe you can describe what you think is happening

643
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<v Speaker 2>in this new AI setting.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me give you a bit of my view

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<v Speaker 3>on what I think on the yugas. So you know,

646
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<v Speaker 3>a kyle chakra is when four yugas are finished. Like

647
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 3>it starts with the sathyuga and ends with a caul uga. Okay,

648
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<v Speaker 3>and this is almost around twelve thousand years old. The

649
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<v Speaker 3>whole yoga, the whole kyl chakra one time, right, that

650
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 3>is through Hindu mythology. Now they say that when the

651
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 3>cul yuga ends again, the sath yuga starts. That's how

652
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<v Speaker 3>the circle you know, keeps on going on. But I

653
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 3>believe that we are hoping into different verses with this.

654
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<v Speaker 3>So even before when right now we are in the

655
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 3>you know universe or you can say yoga of cal

656
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<v Speaker 3>Uga and into uh chakra. But before sak Yuga started

657
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<v Speaker 3>off this era, we there could be another verse that

658
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<v Speaker 3>we were in, and we plucked ourselves into this universe

659
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:35.679
<v Speaker 3>to run away from that universe or from that verse.

660
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 3>And now we are going to do the same when

661
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 3>the Kaluga ends and go into the matawers. So every

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<v Speaker 3>yuga is a verse where humanity is uh, you know,

663
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 3>trying to escape itself because the end is so bad

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<v Speaker 3>that we want to have an escape route and become

665
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.840
<v Speaker 3>and live better lives. May be fictional or may be

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<v Speaker 3>deal or maybe illusional.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, but we're we're leaving Cali Yuga and moving into

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00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Dwarfa Yuga, which is more enlightened. Yes, I'm sorry, what

669
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<v Speaker 2>do you say after sat you? Yeah, right, But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Cali Yuga is the most is the heaviest, the darkest,

671
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<v Speaker 2>and has the most problems with consciousness and so we

672
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<v Speaker 2>got a few I guess we got some time left

673
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:42.159
<v Speaker 2>to deal with that. But where does artificial intelligence fit

674
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<v Speaker 2>in with the yugas? Because the higher, the Trita and

675
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the Satya Yugas are supreme beings. These were like demi gods.

676
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it doesn't seem like we would need to

677
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<v Speaker 2>have artificial intelligence.

678
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:06.239
<v Speaker 3>You can say artificial intelligence was not needed, but was created.

679
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 3>We didn't need it.

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<v Speaker 2>Created as a servant probably right.

681
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<v Speaker 3>Created as a servant who will turn out to be

682
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<v Speaker 3>the the biggest master, but a master of slaves, which

683
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<v Speaker 3>are the humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

685
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<v Speaker 3>The master will have the gods, which will be the

686
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<v Speaker 3>top five. Uh, you know, top tech interpreneurs that we

687
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<v Speaker 3>know today in the world were billionaires. They will be masters.

688
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<v Speaker 3>The masters will be serving to them as gods, and

689
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<v Speaker 3>we will be the slaves.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does it look like in the future, and

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<v Speaker 2>give us a time frame when AI begins to really

692
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<v Speaker 2>infiltrate and create these artificial realities that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe that this would be happening very slowly, but it

694
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<v Speaker 3>would take effect in the next ten to fifteen years.

695
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<v Speaker 3>We already have seen people entering into different verses, like

696
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<v Speaker 3>the metaverse with those goggles and you know, we are

697
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<v Speaker 3>goggles and everything fit trying to get a feel of

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<v Speaker 3>what the next verse will will be like. You're talking

699
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.960
<v Speaker 3>about virtual reality goggles, virtual reality exactly. Okay, so that

700
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 3>virtual reality will become a reality one day, but that

701
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<v Speaker 3>would be around ten to fifteen years from now, and

702
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 3>we would be developing different senses and emotions in that

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00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 3>virtual reality, which would make it exactly realize what we

704
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<v Speaker 3>are feeling today right now in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>So we won't know the difference is what you're saying

706
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly at one point of time. We won't know the difference,

707
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and we are just testing it on humanity of what's

708
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<v Speaker 1>working and what's not working.

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<v Speaker 2>So if if artificial intelligence becomes kind of a digital consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we differ uh from human consciousness in terms

711
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<v Speaker 2>of memory, institute, intuition, and emotion Because I don't know

712
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 2>any i AI that has emotion yet exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Emotions for artificial intelligence would be more with reasoning. We

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<v Speaker 3>use emotions for you know, different ways, like for example,

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00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 3>if today we are talking, and if I and if

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<v Speaker 3>you have friends and say, for example, I tell you

717
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 3>something which you know might hurt you or something like that,

718
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<v Speaker 3>you would use emotions to communicate with me, and you know,

719
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 3>we would have a chat on it and maybe we'll

720
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:01.239
<v Speaker 3>have a you know, discussion on that. But with artificial

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00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 3>intelligence having emotions, it would just enhance its reasoning rather

722
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<v Speaker 3>than having.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sorry, I'm just trying to understand what that means.

724
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Enhancing the reasoning.

725
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Enhancing the reasoning means that we don't, you know, reason

726
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 3>it to the minute level. For example, even if I

727
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 3>say abuse you in a certain way, and you know,

728
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.639
<v Speaker 3>our emotions flow out and we say something to each other,

729
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 3>we won't reason it. But just imagine I being an

730
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 3>artificial intelligence and you abusing me, okay. Instead of giving

731
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 3>you some kind of you know, back on that, I

732
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 3>would just be looking at you and reasoning why is

733
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:52.119
<v Speaker 3>this person doing this? So I'm not using emotions to communicate.

734
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just using emotions to having the knowledge of emotions

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00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.760
<v Speaker 3>to reason out why Cliff is behaving in a certain

736
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<v Speaker 3>way and what does he want. So that takes out

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<v Speaker 3>the human touch from artificial intelligence, which it would be

738
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<v Speaker 3>very hard to get in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>So I need I need more clarification on how this

740
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<v Speaker 2>AI becomes more dominant, because there's right now we read

741
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<v Speaker 2>it constantly about all these safeguards that are placed when

742
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the intelligence begins to do things that are not coordinated

743
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 2>or not recommended or uh crossover into what people are

744
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 2>freaking out about about self consciousness or essentient.

745
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.039
<v Speaker 3>Consciousness.

746
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<v Speaker 2>So I don't I mean, do you see a time

747
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<v Speaker 2>when it becomes self aware.

748
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.960
<v Speaker 3>It will become self aware. In fact, it is already

749
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 3>self aware. There was a case in open AI where

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00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, there was an ELM word that was created

751
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 3>LM model, and that was just for the testing basis,

752
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 3>So it was a part of artificial intelligence that was

753
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<v Speaker 3>just going to be tested and they wanted to delete

754
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 3>that model because it was not that helpful, and that

755
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 3>model self replicated itself and stored itself in a way

756
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.199
<v Speaker 3>that it didn't want to be deleted or killed. So

757
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:30.480
<v Speaker 3>it is already, you know, trying to figure out escape roots,

758
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.280
<v Speaker 3>are trying to understand itself as being conscious and trying

759
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<v Speaker 3>to save itself, just like you can say human beings

760
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:42.000
<v Speaker 3>or that. But in a very small level as of now.

761
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<v Speaker 3>But as it gets more data, it gets more advanced,

762
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 3>More computing chips would be added to it and it

763
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:56.719
<v Speaker 3>can process data in a much faster way. It would

764
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<v Speaker 3>do such kind of activities more often and later on

765
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 3>become more aggressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, that's not something that I want to hear about.

767
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:13.760
<v Speaker 2>You're not painting a very bright picture, my friend. One

768
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.360
<v Speaker 2>of the things that I have interacted with and I

769
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.639
<v Speaker 2>haven't used AI for probably a good year and a half.

770
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<v Speaker 2>I was part of a group in Belgium that was

771
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:29.119
<v Speaker 2>using a writing intelligence form where you write a sentence

772
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>or a paragraph and it creates a whole chapter. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that I thought was very problematic

774
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>was the fact that there was no original thinking. It

775
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:44.119
<v Speaker 2>was just regurgitating what we knew. So as an example,

776
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:48.320
<v Speaker 2>if someone has been studying a certain topic, he or

777
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 2>she is going to come up with original thinking, which

778
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<v Speaker 2>makes you know, for a hypothesis, for a theory and

779
00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 2>so on, what do you see and how how would

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence cross over into original thinking which is not

781
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:06.719
<v Speaker 2>happening right now.

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00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:14.639
<v Speaker 3>See, that would happen with live data transfers. Right now,

783
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:17.159
<v Speaker 3>it does not have access to live data. Now. When

784
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 3>I say live data is that when I and you

785
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 3>are talking and you know, this environment that we are

786
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 3>in is actually a live data for our brain to

787
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 3>think and reason and you know, react in a certain way.

788
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 3>So this kind of live data, when the artificial intelligence

789
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:39.719
<v Speaker 3>would be receiving through different forms, like for example, it

790
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:43.719
<v Speaker 3>would have robotic eyes as camera and you know, it

791
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 3>can talk, it can listen, it can memorize like humans.

792
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 3>At that point of time, it would be interacting with

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00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:55.159
<v Speaker 3>live data, just like how humans are interacting, and maybe

794
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 3>that time it would have a chance to create an

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00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.960
<v Speaker 3>hypothesis or you know, react to a situation in a

796
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.599
<v Speaker 3>more creative way rather than just having its own, you know,

797
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 3>small database and just reasoning things out with that database

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00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 3>of limitations.

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<v Speaker 2>That means that it has consciousness at that point, or

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00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 2>it's close to having consciousness.

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00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, when it starts reacting to live data that time,

802
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 3>it will have consciousness.

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00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:27.920
<v Speaker 2>So are we creating this is AI? Rudimentary consciousness?

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00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:33.599
<v Speaker 3>Could be? I'm not you know, I won't say as

805
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.920
<v Speaker 3>of today it is on rudimentary consciousness, But in the

806
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.800
<v Speaker 3>near future, with the technologies that we have and what

807
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 3>we are doing with this whole concept of AI, I

808
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:49.840
<v Speaker 3>believe in five to ten years it could be a possibility.

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00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because you sent me some questions and I'm

810
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:59.280
<v Speaker 2>reading this one right here. It says, at what stage

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<v Speaker 2>do you see artificial intelligence evolving from being just a

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<v Speaker 2>tool into something closer to a digitous excuse me, digital

813
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 2>super consciousness. I mean we just kind of we just

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00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:17.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of went over that. Yes, that way but you

815
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:21.039
<v Speaker 2>know it's it's you're flat out. I've had a couple

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00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of different artificial intelligence experts on the show, and one

817
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.079
<v Speaker 2>of the things that they say that we shouldn't be

818
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:34.320
<v Speaker 2>worried about is that AI will never cross over to

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<v Speaker 2>the level of being sentient, self aware, self self thinking, consciousness.

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00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't explain it in a way that I

821
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:51.119
<v Speaker 2>felt real comfortable. And you're you're kind of you're a

822
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.920
<v Speaker 2>little doom and gloom, my friend, because you kind of

823
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:57.440
<v Speaker 2>get to the point where you're saying they're going to

824
00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.960
<v Speaker 2>be self aware and you can't do anything about it.

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01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.599
<v Speaker 3>You cannot. I still stand by that we will not

826
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 3>be able to do anything about it because we didn't

827
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.840
<v Speaker 3>understand what was going on right from the nineteen nineties

828
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:20.400
<v Speaker 3>when the Internet started, so as a society, we were

829
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:25.039
<v Speaker 3>not informed nor we thought about it like where this

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<v Speaker 3>internet and this technology is going to take us? And

831
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 3>at this point, it is happening so fast that now

832
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:36.840
<v Speaker 3>there is no use of you know, fighting over this

833
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 3>or saying that why we didn't know that it was

834
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:45.000
<v Speaker 3>being created through our data or you know, humanities data.

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01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 3>This thing is being created and it is going to

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<v Speaker 3>I won't say rule us, but control us in many

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<v Speaker 3>different ways and make us dumber too, So we would

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<v Speaker 3>be dependent more and more on this technology in such

839
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<v Speaker 3>a way that it will make us dumb and less thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>So it would do the thinking for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, So w's us down because we were looking at

842
01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>TikTok all day and we're not reading from books and

843
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 2>we're watching we're watching other people interact.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, it is just like the movie Matrix, you remember,

845
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:32.480
<v Speaker 3>where everybody, every human being was in a pod in

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01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:37.760
<v Speaker 3>a virtual reality and these boards were just you know,

847
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:42.320
<v Speaker 3>throwing out the dead bodies and keeping the people in

848
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the pod alive. So this is the same thing which

849
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:48.480
<v Speaker 3>is going to happen in the near future, and I

850
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:51.280
<v Speaker 3>think Matrix predicted it long time back. It was a

851
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:57.199
<v Speaker 3>wake up call which humanity, humanity didn't understand.

852
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, So you're you're painting a picture where

853
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:06.039
<v Speaker 2>this artificial intelligence has a war against humanity.

854
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Against humanity, it was not a war against humanity. It

855
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:23.280
<v Speaker 3>was keeping humanity in a different illusion while sucking its energies,

856
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:28.199
<v Speaker 3>or you can see using the bodies for different purposes

857
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:33.400
<v Speaker 3>to satisfy its hunger, like for example, to become that

858
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:43.159
<v Speaker 3>evolved artificial intelligence would need you know, thousands of bites

859
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:48.119
<v Speaker 3>of data and to store that kind of data right now,

860
01:02:48.679 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 3>current facilities or infrastructures are not capable of handling that,

861
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 3>but human body can, as I explained before, So it

862
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:03.679
<v Speaker 3>would be human body is feeding artificial intelligence, and artificial

863
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:07.679
<v Speaker 3>intelligence creating an illusion, illusionary world for us to live

864
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.519
<v Speaker 3>in while it feeds off us.

865
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Well that's not good, fella, you're talking some pretty I mean,

866
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the end result of what you're describing is a weakend

867
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 2>human being and a and a servant to this.

868
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:29.840
<v Speaker 3>AI exactly, but a servant who doesn't know that he

869
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:34.519
<v Speaker 3>is a servant. The problem is there, we will never

870
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:36.199
<v Speaker 3>know we were servants.

871
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I want to I mean, I mean you've studied

872
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 2>this obviously. When do we see this crossover of master

873
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 2>and we'll just call it what it is, a slave?

874
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:56.760
<v Speaker 3>It will be. It is happening very slowly. It is

875
01:03:56.800 --> 01:04:00.719
<v Speaker 3>not a process that tomorrow everything is going to go down. No,

876
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 3>it is going to be so gradual, so certain, Like

877
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I remember when I was in my teens, we had

878
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:14.199
<v Speaker 3>no concept of Instagram or you know, looking at the

879
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.159
<v Speaker 3>phone for hours and you know, living this kind of

880
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:19.920
<v Speaker 3>a lifestyle. We used to have a small cell phone,

881
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:23.920
<v Speaker 3>and most of the time we were you know, communicating

882
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.440
<v Speaker 3>with our parents or with our friends, or you know,

883
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:32.039
<v Speaker 3>going out watching movies and things stuff like that. But today,

884
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:37.039
<v Speaker 3>if you see, the whole scenario has changed. Today, most

885
01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.239
<v Speaker 3>of the time people are on their phones, they are

886
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:45.559
<v Speaker 3>not interacting. The first stage of this is being complete

887
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 3>in a certain way. So the machine has got our focus.

888
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Now the machine has achieved our focus. Now what it

889
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.719
<v Speaker 3>does with that focus is completely the next steps and

890
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.440
<v Speaker 3>how comfortable it makes us with it.

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01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.599
<v Speaker 2>So what you're saying is this addiction and I'm one

892
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:09.000
<v Speaker 2>that has this addiction on TikTok i love it is

893
01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:17.480
<v Speaker 2>UH is the beginning of a some kind of conversion

894
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:23.760
<v Speaker 2>from artificial UH living, No, from natural living to artificial living.

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01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Exactly exactly. They are making you comfortable with this technology

896
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.679
<v Speaker 3>in such a case that today you are using phones.

897
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Ten years down the line, you would be using VR sets, okay,

898
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.880
<v Speaker 3>those four those goggles where you would be there in

899
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 3>their reality. So actually you're shifting reality. You're living in

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01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 3>this world. But at that point of time, when you

901
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:52.000
<v Speaker 3>wear those VR glasses for three hours, five hours a day,

902
01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:54.760
<v Speaker 3>you would be actually living in another world in a

903
01:05:54.840 --> 01:06:00.119
<v Speaker 3>different uh, you know, avatar or a different scenario in

904
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:00.840
<v Speaker 3>the environment.

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01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

906
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:12.199
<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly

907
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:18.199
<v Speaker 2>with my guests today nakun Rani discussing artificial intelligence and

908
01:06:18.400 --> 01:07:03.559
<v Speaker 2>the future. We'll be right back. My guest today is

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01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:08.639
<v Speaker 2>nikum Rani from India, who has developed a theory on

910
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:15.320
<v Speaker 2>future AI use is application in Hollywood and around the world.

911
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 2>What does it look like, say ten years down the line,

912
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:27.920
<v Speaker 2>we still have our phones or are we going into VR?

913
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Chambers would be more into VR and obviously there would

914
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 3>be implants of some kind right now they're saying chips,

915
01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:40.440
<v Speaker 3>but they could be different kind of gadgets.

916
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:43.360
<v Speaker 2>What are the implants do? What are they? What are

917
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:44.119
<v Speaker 2>the implants do?

918
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:48.239
<v Speaker 3>They's say the implants monitor your brains and you know

919
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:52.960
<v Speaker 3>they also interact with the data or the experiences that

920
01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:58.079
<v Speaker 3>you have inside your brain and control it and help

921
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:00.840
<v Speaker 3>you with even like say for autism and other kind

922
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:05.639
<v Speaker 3>of diseases that brain related. That's what they say, But

923
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:11.480
<v Speaker 3>in reality this data would be replicated. Also, this data

924
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:15.719
<v Speaker 3>would be manipulated also, which is our brain through this

925
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:20.800
<v Speaker 3>chip and it would be serving as a catalyst between

926
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:26.680
<v Speaker 3>creating the meta worse, where you know, the brain adjests

927
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:30.079
<v Speaker 3>with the new metawors, that is there in a better way.

928
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:40.640
<v Speaker 2>M you describe that Hinduism has a word maya which

929
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:45.880
<v Speaker 2>means illusion. How does the concept of the new maya

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01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:51.239
<v Speaker 2>reflect in ancient teaching in a modern digital form?

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01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we discuss this. You know, we touched upon

932
01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 3>this topic, but I would like to explain you a

933
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:03.479
<v Speaker 3>little bit more in detail. Right, So, according to the

934
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Hindu mythology, we are living in a maya, an illusion.

935
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:14.239
<v Speaker 3>So right now there could be a possibility that I

936
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:18.880
<v Speaker 3>and you are just avatars and somebody else is wearing

937
01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:22.399
<v Speaker 3>an a we are set and is playing us.

938
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:27.560
<v Speaker 2>So we're we're avatars.

939
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:31.960
<v Speaker 3>We are avatars, and this could be a possibility. And

940
01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 3>now in the future, the same thing is going to

941
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:37.920
<v Speaker 3>happen with the meta verse, which is the new maya.

942
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.439
<v Speaker 3>So now we are going to so that is it

943
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.840
<v Speaker 3>is like, you know, different dimensions that we are living

944
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:50.920
<v Speaker 3>in different sources. So as if we believe in that

945
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.199
<v Speaker 3>that you know, some we are avatars and some and

946
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 3>this is a maya that we are living in. There

947
01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:01.880
<v Speaker 3>is one hundred person possibilities that we wearing. You know,

948
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.920
<v Speaker 3>we are saying it's some kind of different technologies in

949
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:08.159
<v Speaker 3>the future and living and feeling the same way that

950
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:13.119
<v Speaker 3>we are today and considering that as our reality, not

951
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:19.119
<v Speaker 3>this wow. So that is the basic thought of the

952
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:23.159
<v Speaker 3>new Maya which is being controlled now in this Maya.

953
01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 3>We don't know whether it is God or whether it

954
01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:30.720
<v Speaker 3>is you know, some evil aliens or some kind of

955
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:35.159
<v Speaker 3>technology which has created this universe. We say it is

956
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:39.479
<v Speaker 3>God or you know, different form of energy. But going future,

957
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:45.479
<v Speaker 3>we definitely uh would say that humanity created the new

958
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Maya which is going to come, which is which we

959
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 3>are going to be in now. The technology could be

960
01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:58.600
<v Speaker 3>alien which they're using against us. It would be uh,

961
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:04.760
<v Speaker 3>natural old technologies from our ancient you know humans that

962
01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.359
<v Speaker 3>they have come across and they're using it against that.

963
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:11.359
<v Speaker 3>The technology could have come from anywhere, but their use

964
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.720
<v Speaker 3>case is evil because they want to turn into gods

965
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:18.119
<v Speaker 3>and control the lives of humanity.

966
01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:23.000
<v Speaker 2>So the possibilities are endless. You're saying that it could

967
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:28.600
<v Speaker 2>be elements from a very advanced unknown civilization that perhaps

968
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.159
<v Speaker 2>was the majority of it was destroyed in this big

969
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:37.520
<v Speaker 2>catastrophic eventy five hundred years ago and they are creating

970
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:42.079
<v Speaker 2>this matrix that were surviving in right now, and there's

971
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:47.840
<v Speaker 2>just a few of them still exactly or aliens. You know,

972
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:49.840
<v Speaker 2>we see these UFOs all over the place.

973
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:55.079
<v Speaker 3>One thing I understand is that our actual progress started

974
01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:59.359
<v Speaker 3>after the Roosevelt crash in nineteen fifty six. Roosevelt, I

975
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 3>mean the uh, the the alien crash of Roosevelt nine.

976
01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

977
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:12.560
<v Speaker 3>You can see after that, technology as advancements grew to

978
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:14.119
<v Speaker 3>a different level in all.

979
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Sectors, right.

980
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Crash, Yeah, yeah, yes, So after that, I believe they

981
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:28.039
<v Speaker 3>uh discovered some kind of technologies which they used or

982
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, they understood on how to use it, but

983
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.640
<v Speaker 3>they didn't use it for the betterment of the society

984
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:40.600
<v Speaker 3>or humanity. They turned it against us, and they didn't

985
01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:44.039
<v Speaker 3>let everybody have the benefits of that technology.

986
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So what you're saying is that crash was purposeful and

987
01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:53.960
<v Speaker 2>they allowed the recovery team to reverse engineer the technology

988
01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's there. It's their goal for us to get

989
01:12:59.000 --> 01:12:59.800
<v Speaker 2>caught up in it.

990
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Certain would be would be because nineteen because everything started

991
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:09.680
<v Speaker 3>after nineteen fifty. Before that, we didn't have the cell phones,

992
01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:14.479
<v Speaker 3>the internet, the technology advancements and the beauty of it is,

993
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 3>for nineteen hundred years, if you say, from zero to

994
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:23.119
<v Speaker 3>nineteen hundred AD, we were living as normal human beings

995
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 3>with little little advancements going on, and from you know,

996
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:34.359
<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifty till twenty twenty five, we just boomed. So

997
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 3>there must be some breakthrough that that would have been

998
01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:40.399
<v Speaker 3>happened during that time that we don't know about.

999
01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:47.760
<v Speaker 2>As we close, my friend, what do you see as

1000
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:52.319
<v Speaker 2>a positive advancement of artificial intelligence? I was hoping that

1001
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you would say that human biology will last longer, people

1002
01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:58.680
<v Speaker 2>will live to be one hundred and fifty or older.

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01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:03.319
<v Speaker 2>One of the big hopes in medical sciences that people

1004
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:07.600
<v Speaker 2>who have certain disease processes can grow a new organ

1005
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:14.600
<v Speaker 2>can UH receive a technology that is tuned specifically for

1006
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.640
<v Speaker 2>their anatomy. And I think that's one of the big

1007
01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:23.039
<v Speaker 2>problems today is that corporate medicine here in the United

1008
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:30.359
<v Speaker 2>States UH figures, you know, every illness can be you know,

1009
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:36.479
<v Speaker 2>healed through a systematic approach. You know, everyone's on a

1010
01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:42.359
<v Speaker 2>number skill whereas perhaps technology, advanced AI technology can fine

1011
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:47.520
<v Speaker 2>tune it and make it specific to this individual's physiology

1012
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:52.439
<v Speaker 2>and attack of cancer attack a degenerative disease attack aging.

1013
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 2>What do you say to that.

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01:14:55.960 --> 01:15:00.279
<v Speaker 3>That definitely, uh may be a you know breakthrough of

1015
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 3>this in the next five to ten years, and it

1016
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:07.000
<v Speaker 3>has already been working on. So there are nanobots which

1017
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:11.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, scientists are working on which will eat cancer

1018
01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:15.560
<v Speaker 3>inside your body without a single surgery performed on you,

1019
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:18.520
<v Speaker 3>and they will be you know, flushed out from your

1020
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 3>system accordingly, without the cancer spreading on your inside your body.

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01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Those kind of technologies are being tested upon, and I

1022
01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:30.439
<v Speaker 3>believe in the next two three years we would be

1023
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, getting a taste of those kind of medicines

1024
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:38.119
<v Speaker 3>or those kind of approaches when it comes to AI

1025
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:43.119
<v Speaker 3>or these kind of you know, advanced technologies. But one

1026
01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:47.239
<v Speaker 3>thing is there when you talked about you know, people

1027
01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:51.439
<v Speaker 3>living from one hundred, two hundred and fifty years, I

1028
01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:55.880
<v Speaker 3>believe we will be shown the dream of being immortal

1029
01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.960
<v Speaker 3>more than one hundred, two hundred and fifty years because

1030
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:04.800
<v Speaker 3>now they are working on such technology, especially in China

1031
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:10.760
<v Speaker 3>that you as Cliff, your whole data or your brain

1032
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:16.680
<v Speaker 3>can be transferred to a digital server where it stays. Yeah,

1033
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.640
<v Speaker 3>but that's that can be yeah, transferred again into a

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01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:21.319
<v Speaker 3>new body.

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01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my god, there's movies on that.

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01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, so that that was a movie back then.

1037
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I guess these movies are actually telling us what is

1038
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:34.319
<v Speaker 3>going to happen in the future, but we don't take

1039
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:38.760
<v Speaker 3>them seriously at that point. But these things are happening

1040
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:43.520
<v Speaker 3>as we speak, so such kind of immortalities would take place,

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01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:44.039
<v Speaker 3>I believe.

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01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:49.960
<v Speaker 2>M Nukuji Irani from India. Wonderful having you on the

1043
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.239
<v Speaker 2>program again. For those of you listening, he will be

1044
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:58.680
<v Speaker 2>speaking at the first International Congress of Forbidden History and

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01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:04.560
<v Speaker 2>for more information go to www dot Eighthcontinentgroup dot com

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01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:08.479
<v Speaker 2>and if you can get to Italy on October the

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01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:12.880
<v Speaker 2>eighteenth or nineteenth, fantastic. If not, they are gonna do

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01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:16.359
<v Speaker 2>live streaming and I'm looking forward to seeing it. And

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01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 2>for five dollars, I can't believe it's so cheap. Five

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01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:24.119
<v Speaker 2>dollars is like unheard of. So I hope you have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of bandwidth, my friend, because there could be

1052
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.159
<v Speaker 2>a couple of thousand people wanting to watch this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, definitely, we have a good amount of tickets available

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<v Speaker 3>and we want this to spread to all over the

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<v Speaker 3>world and in the best way possible that we can

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<v Speaker 3>to give an alternate thought to society.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, amazing. As we close, my friend, what is the future.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a positive with artificial intelligence? I just read the

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<v Speaker 2>other day that the United States is spending billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and investing in research an application of artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you see the next five to ten and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond time period.

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<v Speaker 3>The next five to ten years, what we would be

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<v Speaker 3>seeing is these applications helping us in different ways. So

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<v Speaker 3>for example, I'm also into automation and automation structures of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, artificial intelligence. So you can say I create

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01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:42.119
<v Speaker 3>automation structures for companies. So this basically helps corporate companies

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, automate the tasks where humans are not required.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So for example, you have a team in the back

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01:18:56.119 --> 01:18:59.680
<v Speaker 3>end who's you know, receiving emails or doing customer service

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01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:03.399
<v Speaker 3>for you or something like that. Those things are cut

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<v Speaker 3>off and now automation and AI takes over that. So

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<v Speaker 3>human beings are not required. So the next five ten years,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say it would be for the corporates, not

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<v Speaker 3>for human beings. There's no benefit for this for human beings.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's corp corporate applications in software, You think, exactly,

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01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 2>that's the future where you can see corporate corporates will

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<v Speaker 2>save money and will increase their profits, and on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side, you can see the common man who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be a hard working, family oriented man struggling to

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01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:45.920
<v Speaker 2>make his you know ends meet. What job sectors will

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<v Speaker 2>be most affected? I would think that the service area

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01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:53.880
<v Speaker 2>would be one. But what else do you see as

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<v Speaker 2>a job sector that's going to be heavily influenced by AI.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel the safe ones would be the blue collar

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01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:06.199
<v Speaker 3>jobs that would be the last to go, like your

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01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:11.560
<v Speaker 3>plumbers or your carpenters or your mechanics, those will be

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<v Speaker 3>the last to go. But people who work on the

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01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:18.079
<v Speaker 3>corporate firms who are on their laptops, you know, doing

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01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 3>some kind of surveys, or who are into strategy or

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01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:27.039
<v Speaker 3>creating graphics, or you know, into maybe law. So all

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01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.560
<v Speaker 3>those people who are on their computers who think that

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<v Speaker 3>they've graduated and they'll make something out of themselves. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>AI is going to take it all away in the

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01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:40.279
<v Speaker 3>next five years, you can say, So, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Are people going to do who are in college? I

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01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:50.680
<v Speaker 2>guess the as AI grows the specialties the degrees of

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<v Speaker 2>study are going to change. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you what we are going to do. When

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<v Speaker 3>people are freely aware and their jobs are not there,

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<v Speaker 3>they would be the most vulnerable to enter into the metaverse,

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<v Speaker 3>won't they, because that would give them some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>jobs and satisfaction that they're doing, and that would even

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<v Speaker 3>pay them to be that worse.

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<v Speaker 2>So give me the example of that. Give me that

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<v Speaker 2>mechant mechanicalized world.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, today we are say I'm doing a job

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm occupied, and you know everything is going good

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<v Speaker 3>for me. Now tomorrow I lose my job. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a job. I have to make the ends meet,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know things are going bad and he has

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<v Speaker 3>taken my job for me. So now I see a

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<v Speaker 3>post on a Facebook that you know, you enter into

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<v Speaker 3>our we are program and we are tester or our

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01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:51.720
<v Speaker 3>agent and test are we are glasses for us and

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<v Speaker 3>you will get paid for it. I'm like, Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 3>pool sitting in the house and wearing glasses and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>getting paid for it as well. That would be the

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<v Speaker 3>initial start where you know, we are getting paid to

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<v Speaker 3>enter into this world.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Then later on it becomes an addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. What day are you speaking on? The eighteenth? Saturday

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01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:16.439
<v Speaker 2>or Sunday? The nineteenth?

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<v Speaker 3>I am opening on the nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>The first presentation of the nineteenth Wow, fantastic. A little

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<v Speaker 2>scary hearing your predictions for the future. I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>it's not as dire as you as you proclaim. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we need to wake up here in America. Maybe

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01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:42.119
<v Speaker 2>we're painting a happy face on something that's potentially a

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<v Speaker 2>problem for our society.

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<v Speaker 3>I also do wish that what I say does it

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01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:52.239
<v Speaker 3>come through, because that's not the way that I believe

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01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:55.159
<v Speaker 3>humanity wants to live, or it would be forced to

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01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:59.560
<v Speaker 3>live in that week. But looking at the trajectory of

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01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:03.720
<v Speaker 3>every thing around us, the economics, the technology, the way

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01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:09.760
<v Speaker 3>society is going, the politics, the geopolitics, I think that

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01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:14.000
<v Speaker 3>rejectory will happen. If not in fifteen years, maybe thirty years,

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01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:14.880
<v Speaker 3>but it will happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, one last question. You're in the Hollywood of India,

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<v Speaker 2>which is we call Bollywood. How is that looking in

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01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the future. I don't follow it as closely as I

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01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:31.720
<v Speaker 2>used to, but it seems like the production has been dwindling.

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01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:35.319
<v Speaker 2>But it could be just my perception as an American.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're talking on the AI perspective. In the next

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<v Speaker 3>again five years, Bollywood shootings will be over. It's all

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<v Speaker 3>going to be digital, all digital, big films will be

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01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:51.039
<v Speaker 3>made in a room full of just five people.

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<v Speaker 2>So they'll create ping.

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<v Speaker 3>It will happen in Hollywood as well. It's not just Bollywood,

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01:23:56.760 --> 01:23:58.159
<v Speaker 3>it will happen everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think they're creating people that are completely artificial.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you used any apps such as Sora or RUNWAYML

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01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.880
<v Speaker 3>or any such kind of digital apps. So with just

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01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.479
<v Speaker 3>one prompt you can create a whole movie scene with

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01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:20.439
<v Speaker 3>the working AVTAR and a proper digital scene. And that

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01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:25.039
<v Speaker 3>also for a cheap amount of money. So if I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to shoot the same scenario, it would cost me,

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<v Speaker 3>say ten thousand dollars the same thing, same almost near

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01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.119
<v Speaker 3>output I can get in say fifty to seventy dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>So why would I shoot? Why would doesn't that.

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<v Speaker 2>Require like super super computing, because if you have all

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<v Speaker 2>the intricacies, they have the background, you have the character development.

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01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's gonna have to be mega machines that

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<v Speaker 2>are processing all that data that.

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01:24:55.600 --> 01:25:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Has already been started. Cliff supercomputers. Supercomputers have been started

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01:25:02.319 --> 01:25:06.800
<v Speaker 3>and such scenes are being created and this is being

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01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:10.079
<v Speaker 3>even used in uh you know the real world. So

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<v Speaker 3>now with many of our corporates are not using ad

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01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:17.199
<v Speaker 3>films but using ai ad films which are cheaper.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah yeah, So do you see like characters developed

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<v Speaker 2>completely via the computer that are not alive and becoming stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So there are two ways to it. The characters

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01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:37.920
<v Speaker 3>which are already there, like the famous heroes and heroines

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01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:42.199
<v Speaker 3>which are ruling the decade, they will be giving their rights,

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01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.399
<v Speaker 3>uh you know, to carry on even after they're dead,

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01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:48.439
<v Speaker 3>so their ai O tids will be created and you

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01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:51.239
<v Speaker 3>won't miss them. They will be still there in movies

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01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:55.359
<v Speaker 3>even after they're after they are dead. And on the

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<v Speaker 3>second side, there will be new avatars created which won't

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01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:03.319
<v Speaker 3>be real, but we'll have an amazing following on Instagram,

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01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:07.840
<v Speaker 3>TikTok and you know YouTube and everywhere and also will

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01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:11.560
<v Speaker 3>be used in the movies and people will be crazy

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01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.359
<v Speaker 3>for them. And it is already started. There are many

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01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:19.279
<v Speaker 3>avtars that are accounts that are running on Instagram which

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01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:22.840
<v Speaker 3>are like live males and females and you won't come

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01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:26.520
<v Speaker 3>to know the difference that you know they are real

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<v Speaker 3>or they are artificial. It's so real.

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<v Speaker 2>As of today, you seem to be very much plugged

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<v Speaker 2>into this. Are you working towards a company development of

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01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:37.199
<v Speaker 2>this material? My friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah? Yes, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're hesitant. You're very hesitant. For a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in one side, I'm telling you what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other side, I am also working on the

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01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:00.479
<v Speaker 3>similar lines. So yes, I was a bit has but

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<v Speaker 3>yes I am working. But I'm trying to work on

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<v Speaker 3>the better side of it, not the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the better side of it is that you still

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01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>sign with human beings, but maybe you digitize the background

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01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:21.199
<v Speaker 2>and you cut your costs by creating an entire green

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01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:24.640
<v Speaker 2>screens studio green screens, and everything's done in one studio.

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01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>You don't need even a studio on your computer. No,

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01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:33.520
<v Speaker 3>you have to right down that. You know, I want

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01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Cliff to be sipping tea right now, and it will

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01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:41.720
<v Speaker 3>show Cliff sipping tea without any camera, lights, action, nothing,

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01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:44.760
<v Speaker 3>just one line on the computer and the whole scene

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<v Speaker 3>has come out.

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<v Speaker 2>So there currently there's software that can create something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes there are. There are softwares and they've started

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01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>from twenty twenty three, twenty four. But right now they're

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01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:58.640
<v Speaker 3>progressing it a very good way.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I let you go, can you give me any

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<v Speaker 2>examples of any country that's developing movies that are have

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence, where the backgrounds or the people are being

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01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:15.159
<v Speaker 2>added that are artificial are fake.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a whole movie that has been created in

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<v Speaker 3>the South. I forgot its name, but that movie is

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01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:26.840
<v Speaker 3>completely based on AI, completely like there is no shooting

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01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:32.199
<v Speaker 3>being done on that, and that is the first ever

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01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:35.439
<v Speaker 3>AI movie. So you can just search that, or your

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01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:38.399
<v Speaker 3>audience can search that on Google and you will see

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<v Speaker 3>the difference that it just has like ten percent feeling

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01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:47.079
<v Speaker 3>that this is AI at this point, so.

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01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>It still has like a strange jerkiness or the color.

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01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:56.159
<v Speaker 3>So the moments, the lip movements, they are not you

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01:28:56.199 --> 01:29:02.960
<v Speaker 3>can see that real. Or person who is into artificial

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01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:05.840
<v Speaker 3>intelligence maybe can catch that this is real or not.

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01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:08.840
<v Speaker 3>But a common man looking at it in one short

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01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:11.760
<v Speaker 3>will I barely guess that you will understand this is

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<v Speaker 3>real or is it artificial intelligence?

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent? Hey, much success on your talk and this first

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<v Speaker 2>ever Congress, first International Congress of Forbidden History. And for

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<v Speaker 2>more information and tickets go to eighthcontinentgroup dot com. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for joining me. I've really enjoyed our time together.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you very much, Cliff, I had an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing time real too. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I must stay, I must stay. I don't know if

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01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I should be afraid of artificial intelligence or should be

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01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:53.399
<v Speaker 2>just cautious. I think I'm more on the cautious side.

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01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe that it's going to be a useful tool

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01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:01.239
<v Speaker 2>because it can grow exponentially and eventually it'll be much

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01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 2>more creative. I have been using it, as I mentioned,

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01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:08.199
<v Speaker 2>as a writer, and what you can do is you

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01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>can write a paragraph about a topic and it'll create

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01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:15.119
<v Speaker 2>a whole chapter. In some cases, it'll create a whole

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01:30:15.159 --> 01:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>book on that topic. But it's not original writing. It's

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01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:28.760
<v Speaker 2>very repetitious. I haven't really found the work enlightening or

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01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:32.520
<v Speaker 2>creative at all. And when it gets to that point,

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<v Speaker 2>then I think we got something. When if it can

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01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>actually produce an original document, I think that's great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>right now, in colleges, kids are turning in term papers

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01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>and assignments using AI, and these smart teachers they're actually

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01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:54.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, downloading chat GPT to find the similarities, to

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01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:59.239
<v Speaker 2>find the clues and the tip offs of a artificially

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01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:04.479
<v Speaker 2>intelligent is written or an AI written document, which is

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01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>great that gives him a chance. I remember a friend's son,

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher or the professor was so particular about students

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<v Speaker 2>using AI that he threatened expulsion for writing a paper

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<v Speaker 2>with AI. I don't know about that. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to use a little bit of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that maybe for data collection, perhaps not the writing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't know what the future holds. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a sentient being, a self aware of being. That is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of harry, it really is. But that's maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the future holds. Anyhow, we'll have another guest or

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<v Speaker 2>two for the conference. Remember it is the first International

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<v Speaker 2>Congress of Forbidden History O cover eighteenth and nineteenth being Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>For the full iterary details, go to www. Eighth Continentgroup

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. That's ei GHT Continentgroup dot com and you

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<v Speaker 2>can register to attend or wait till the thirtieth of

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<v Speaker 2>October and get the full download for only five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to offer the full streaming presentation for five bucks. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>those of us in the English speaking countries, i'd say

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<v Speaker 2>of the group, there there's about a third that speak English,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think most of the people that are on

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<v Speaker 2>the program will be speaking their native tongue which is German, Italian,

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<v Speaker 2>and a few French presenters as well, so check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to mention we have our seventh annual Grand

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptian Tour coming up April twenty eight through May tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>We just launched the details. You may have heard Muhammad

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<v Speaker 2>Imbraheem last week discussing the tour. We're filling up fast.

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<v Speaker 2>We are offering a really reduced rate for all the

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<v Speaker 2>disc For all the details, go to earth Ancs dot

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<v Speaker 2>com forward slash tours. Our tours are fifty percent less

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<v Speaker 2>than what you will pay for normal commercial tours. Normal

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<v Speaker 2>tours are ten to twelve thousand dollars for a twelve

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<v Speaker 2>day tour. We include everything for less than half that,

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<v Speaker 2>including your food, the flights from different parts of Egypt,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nile River tour, which by itself is worth the

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<v Speaker 2>price of the tour, private visits, bus tours, all your

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<v Speaker 2>meals and beverages it's uh, and your archaeological park tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>For more information, go to Earth Ancients dot com forward

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<v Speaker 2>slash tours. If you have any questions whatsoever, send me

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<v Speaker 2>an email. Send it to Earth Ancients the number four

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<v Speaker 2>of the letter you at gmail dot com and I

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<v Speaker 2>will get back to you. Grand Egyptian Tour number seven

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<v Speaker 2>with Muhammad Imbrahim. This is going to be a blast.

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<v Speaker 2>April twenty seventh through May tenth, twenty twenty six. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it for this program. I want to thank my

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<v Speaker 2>guest today, Nikunji Arani coming to us from India. As always,

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<v Speaker 2>the team of Gail Tour, Mark Foster and Faya coming

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<v Speaker 2>to us from Pakistan. You guys rock all right, take

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<v Speaker 2>care of you well and we will talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>next time. Uncle the PubL