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Speaker 1: It is Wager Talk Today for Thursday, September the twenty fifth.

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I am Steve Merrill filling in for Andy Lang. I'll

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be here today and tomorrow on Friday. Andy has gone golfing,

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well technically, I think he's watching a golf tournament and

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he handicaps golf, so he's still working the great show. Nonetheless,

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we've got Yanni the Greek. We've also got Dave Mason

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from bed Online and Joe Verneri. I haven't seen joanah Whall.

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That's gonna be fun. Looking forward to that segment as well,

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and also might talk a little bit Thursday night football

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at the end here Seahawks Cardinals. Great show. Let's get

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right to it. He's not Gianny the Talent, He's Yanni

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the Greek. Nobody on Wager Talk to you who pronounces

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it correct except for me and Dan. Alexander are a

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great producer. Johnny. Great to see you, my friend. And

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what do you have for the Steam report here on Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me brother? Yeah, busy, busy, busy couple.

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I'm so excited, Like when is this kind of a

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couple of days ahead? I get so hyped up because

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we're betting everything real quickly. Let's start off in baseball

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for you guys. People are overlooking baseball, but there's a

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ton of value. I actually sent out two four and

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a three percent to my subscribe It's been a couple

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of days since we saw multiple groups line up on

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the same baseball plays, but we got a little of

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that today. Here's some of the moves. Nine oh two

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Cincinnati minus one sixty nine oh three, Dodgers minus one

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fifty nine, ten Baltimore plus one ten nine to twelve

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over seven and a half at minus one twenty five

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Minnesota in Texas. And also want to tell you three

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series bets, actually four series bets that are still pending,

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that they bet before the first game.

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Speaker 3: They taped Kansas.

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Speaker 2: City from minus one oh five all the way minus

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one twenty two. They're one and one they need to

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win today. They have the Mets at plus one forty. Okay,

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they're now favored today. They have them, they're split one

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in one. They need them today. Texas. They laid one

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to forty on Texas to win that series. Texas is

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favored today as well, and they have the Dodgers to

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win that series at minus one seventy. Also one to one,

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So those four all need a w Today. I'm paying

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attention to see if they line up on any of

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those because that's key. Historically, when we have had a

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series bet pending and the third game is the determinator

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and they bet that in the third game, the results

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have been phenomenal, like when they're when they already have

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a position, but they want more on that position instead

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of trying to scalp it or middle it. As we say,

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that's real gold. So pay attention to your odds logic screen,

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your wager talk screen, and look at those four teams.

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See if they're getting any kind of love from the

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betting syndicates. They usually do well real quickly. College football,

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and don't forget to watch bet on It. We went

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through college football, we went through NFL. But as always

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Thursdays is when the totals come in, and I fired

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a bunch of totals today, sent a couple out to subscribers.

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Here's what I could share with you as far as

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college football goes. Weekday game East Carolina minus three and

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a half and four move over to Saturday, one twelve,

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Bowling Green plus to ten and a half one twenty

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three over forty two and a half San Diego State

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in northern Illinois, one thirty seven, Duke minus five and

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five and a half, one fifty one, Appleation State plus seventeen.

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Where are we one twenty six, Arkansas plus six and

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plus five, one ninety five over Oregon and Penn State

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over fifty one and a half Oregon and Penn State,

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one fifty nine, Cincinnati plus six and a half and

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plus five and a half, twoh two Washington plus nine

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and a half and nine Also in that same Washington

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and Washington. So we got you covered with college football

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and MLB, a couple of NFL. Again, it's real early

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for NFL, but we saw some of the look aheads

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get hit and then a little followed through. We saw

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that happen with two fifty one Minnesota three Philadelphia, two

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seventy six Green Bay and the under, and we saw

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it with Denver as well and the last total Jacksonville,

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San Fran the overnight. The look ahead at forty five

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got hit. The opener of forty seven got hit. That

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one's opposite the public. I talked about that on bet

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On It already starting to see some money come in

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on the under. So we covered baseball, covered college football,

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covered some NFL. There's even UFC on Saturday. What a

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weekend for betters. Man, Jump on board. We're gonna have

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some fun these next few days.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like September is here. It's next September is

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among us all of a sudden. Yeah, I haven't seen

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you for a few weeks, really since the regular season started.

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pro football, college football? Anything different from years past?

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Speaker 3: No, No, not not really.

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Speaker 1: The the.

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Speaker 2: What I'm what I'm seeing is mostly in the NFL

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is books have done a good job. I mean you

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see last week some of the most one sided bet

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games didn't get there. And that's not a recipe for success,

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like fading the public. People ask that all the time.

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I see it on shows. I get DM like, what

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do the books need? What do the books need? The

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books don't need anything. They just need to open their

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doors and let betters go in and bet. But they're

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gonna do just fine. But I have been paying attention

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to some of those really one sided bet matchups, those

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standalone games, and they just have not done well. If

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you're able to pick off some of those biases, especially

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some recency bias. Uh, there's a lot of value in

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that NFL board because I'm seeing a lot of like

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overreactions off the look ahead. That's what's key. When when

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the the opener after the look ahead isn't much of

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an adjustment, it kind of tells you their own point.

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opener be two two and a half points different, that

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just shows you it's not an efficient market just yet,

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and it's beatable right now. And you're seeing that with

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the NFL, where I think as the season progresses, we

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won't see as much of that.

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Speaker 1: And Jonny, we have so got you. I've got a

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question from Sean Michael about tonight's Thursday night game between

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the Cardinals and Seahawks. We've definitely seen a reverse line

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move on this. I did a look ahead video on

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Monday afternoon for this game and it was Arizona minus

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one pick them in some spots. The quandary for me

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is that I feel like Seattle is the better team,

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which I think favors teams on the short week, Yet

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I also think the home team has an advantage on

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the three day turn aroun because they don't have to travel.

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But we've definitely seen money coming in on Seattle. What's

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interesting is I read all the comments. I reply back.

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As you know on the videos, it's been like ninety

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five percent Seahawk loved the last couple of days when

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I've been reading the comments, So not a surprise we've

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seen it now go to one and a half two cardinals.

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I guess now make a decent teaser spot here plus

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one and a half plus two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. I

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think that's a phenomenal spot to tease, especially when you

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see the total. I kind of lean over to be

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honest with you, even though they see some short money

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go under. And again, when you're betting teasers, your prediction

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should not be very relevant. I meaning you're using a

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teaser simply because it's offering you the numbers to where

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you're placing a plus ev bet, the side almost becomes irrelevant.

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So it should have nothing to really do with your handicap.

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And this is the perfect situation where it doesn't matter

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whether I like Arizona or I like Seattle. The bottom

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line is tonight Arizona teased up to seven and a

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half is a great leg one leg of a teaser.

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and between now and Sunday, there's a lot of things

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that could change. And that's the negative of using these

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Wong teasers early that later in the week that game

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you locked in early may not be a Wong teaser anymore.

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So what I tell better is is if you have

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the opportunity to put in an open end teaser, then

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you want to unload on a spotlight this. You want

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to take a bigger position because now you can wait

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till Sunday to close that second leg, and that's a

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big advantage. But if you have to close that second

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leg today, then I think you have to be a

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little bit higher on your risk, like take less risk,

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because again a lot of things could change between now

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and Sunday. And what I would look at is for

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those numbers that are like around two, if I'm going

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to tease a dog up, I want it to be

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like around plus two because the chances a bit moving

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a whole point are lesser than moving a half a point,

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meaning if it goes down the one and a half

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or up to two and a half, it's still exactly

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where it needs to be. Or I'm looking at that

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dog around the favorite around at eight, because even if

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it goes down to half a point, up a half

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a point, I could still tease it. So if you're

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going to look the tie, look for an eighth to

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bring down or a two to bring up. If you

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have to do a look ahead, close the leg of

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a teaser a few days ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at like the early kickoff on

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two and a half minus fifteen the Vikings that very

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well might be a three by kickoff on Sunday, which

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technically wouldn't qualify anymore. One game that's interesting at one

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o'clock eastern on Sunday is not my Washington commanders. At

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the Falcons right now, they are minus one point favorite

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across the border. But if you look at DraftKings, they've

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got a one and a half at least of the

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odds logic live on screen to show me that right now.

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the Falcons minus one. So even though a plus one

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Atlanta doesn't qualify. Would you grab that plus one and

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a half at DraftKings and make them plus seven and

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a half since you're getting in the vantage line at

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this point.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad bet, you know what

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I mean. I just I've stuck to my rules and

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it's done well. Like even we find ourselves Sunday in

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the steam room where it's like, oh, can we kind

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of use this one and it's like, I'm sorry, you know,

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we got to stick to the rules, and like last

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week it was like we only narrowed down to just

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one teaser, but it won. So it's not a bad thing,

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you know what I mean. And I've gotten really good

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at being disciplined with them. Because someone asked in the chat,

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I just saw, why not use the chargers now, because

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it's not at the number where it's advantageous to tease

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it at six and a half. Even if it moves

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to seven, you're better off laying minus seven minus one

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ten then teasing a minus seven. You have to be

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very confident that the chargers are going to go up

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to seven and a half or eight or higher, and

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be very confident that they will use teaser protection with

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the chargers. But knowing that there's already sharp betters willing

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to take the Giants that may not happen. See, that's

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the key. If it's a one sided game where you're

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not getting any sharp bites on the other side, then

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they're gonna tease protect it right away. But when they're

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seeing nibbles on the other side, like they're seeing with

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the Giants, that may not happen. So that's the negative

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of using a team like the Chargers this far in

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advance again, because if that doesn't go to seven and

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a half or eight, just doesn't make a good make

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for a good teaser.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you another game that's interesting is you

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hanging on the Falcons. We FanDuel does as well. Two

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of the biggest books have Atlanta plus one and a half.

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Everybody else has plus one. Even some pick coms out there.

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fandel once can have the Bears at plus one and

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a half. So you know, right now you could take

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a DraftKings or FanDuel and make a Bears and Falcons

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teaser plus seven and a half when the market is

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plus one everywhere else. You're getting two games that you

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probably aren't going to get on Sunday for teasers. So

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Like you said, these aren't going to technically give you

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long teasers probably, but you're getting extra points, right, which

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is still a good thing. I love those bets.

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Speaker 2: It's good. I do it all the time when I

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even when I just see a off market number, it's

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exactly kind of what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: If I see that the sharpest books all have minus

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you know, two and a half, but I find a

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rogue minus one, I'm gonna lay it trusting that the

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two and a half is the right number, you know

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what I mean. I do that all the time, and

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again they're not locks, but historically you're gonna make money

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doing that, you know what I mean. It's kind of

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like guys that scalp. You're always you know, winning with

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the square out and losing with the sharp side. You know,

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Like if I scalp, I'm scalping off a pinnacle. I'm

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scalping off apparently one of the sharp books. I'm always

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gonna lose to them, and I'm gonna end up winning

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with with the square side more times than not. So

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that that's a perfect example of when you see a

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rogue number like that, that's a plus EV bet. Like

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there's it's impossible for a middle opportunity or a scalp

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to be on the board and for one of the

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sides to not be plus ev. It's a mathematical certainty

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that once that that is offered on the board, there's

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a plus V opportunity. And I think you nailed it

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with those one and a half. That's the plus ev opportunity.

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When the markets at pick them, you take that up

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the seven and a half and win or lose. You

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placed a great bet, man, that's the job. I love

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that thinking, Steve, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And of course the key to teasers, he's got

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to get both lines at the same book. So this

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is a rare opportunity. We both DraftKings and Fan will

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have those outlier one and a halfs and most of

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our viewers probably have an account with one of those

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two real quick, and we'll close it out. Juice has

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gotten extremely high on teasers. You know, when you and

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I started in the nineties, it was even money for

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a little bit. Nobody probably believes that, and then it

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was minus one ten for decades, like a straight bet, draft,

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DraftKings fandor the two big ones. Wager Talk has their

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policy basically based on theirs. I think we're like, at

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what minus one thirty five now for a six point

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teaser or something this season, that's like fifty seven percent

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break even? At what point is there not value anymore

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as six point teasers.

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Speaker 2: After one twenty five? Because here, even at one twenty,

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at one twenty, your edge is about two percent. Because

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your break even six seventy four point one percent, and

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you're going to hit about seventy. Your six percent will

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be your win rate. So you have about a two

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percent at minus one twenty and minus one twenty five.

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That's cutting in about half. So anything worse than minus

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one twenty five the teaser is no longer advantageous. You're

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better off laying minus one ten on a straight bet.

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I know there's gonna be examples where you think, fuck,

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if I would have just teased it, it would have cashed.

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But I promise you over and over again. It's not

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a recipe for success. If you're never going to bet again,

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then do it. But if you're gonna bet again, that's

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not a way you're gonna make money in the market

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doing it. So if you're laying more than one twenty

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five on a six point teaser, it's an uphill battle

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and you're not getting the best of it. Like now

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you're hoping to just get lucky. So I would just

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even pass. If your book is charging one thirties one

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to thirty fives, don't even look at the teaser option

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because they're just it's a terrible bet. You're better off

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laying one ten all day.

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Speaker 1: One, Final, Final, Final up. Question. Do you ever do

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any higher teasers six and a half seven or even

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like ten or fourteen, any of those bigger teasers at

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any point? No?

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Speaker 2: I did what's it called some of the bigger teasers,

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Like we would do a three team three point three.

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They were given three team six point teasers at plus

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one eighty. That's like getting a two team six point taser.

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Even money where the edge is like you know, six percent,

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five and a half percent, that's gone. Now, that's like

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if you look check out your books. Try to do

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a three team six point taser, you're not getting plus

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one eighty. So that was that's gone. And there was

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a time where we were able to do six sixteen

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six point teasers where they were paying more than they

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should certain books. Credit shops were paying more than they should,

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and we were betting those for maybe like two years.

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But then, just like the soccer parlays, they figure it out.

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You know, I remember the soccer parlays for three four years,

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you could just parlay the tie with the under and

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you could just print money. I mean, I swear to god.

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I remember a Sunday where I was hoping that we

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lost because we were up so much money on this book,

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all these ties and unders. I was like, please don't

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hit today on the last day because he's going to

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stiff us like that. Once they see that there's an

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opportunity for better to take advantage of, they block that

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hole up really quickly. So yeah, that's what ends up happening.

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Speaker 1: And I've got a question from a guy named Johnny

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detroit Ace. He wants to know if you want the

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or clients only.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let everybody in I'll be moving in.

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Speaker 2: I'll be in the new place for the first day.

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But yeah, let everybody in it. We're having a great

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football season so far, and yeah, I want to be

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there for everything in the NFL. So yeah, open it up, brother,

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open it up.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, we need a breaking news graphic from Dan Alexander.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on in Sunday, We're gonna go through every

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NFL game. So I tell you what I have on

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the side on the total on the promps. Ten to

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fifteen minutes before kickoff, we go over our teasers. We're

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now seven and one on those teasers, back to back

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winning weeks. And more importantly, you get to ask any

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question you have. We go over year to date results,

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look at our goal for the end of the year,

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go over our money management or risk tolerance, the different

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unit sizes and everything. And like I said, we're just

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there to live, trade and answer questions. Make sure you

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join me someday. It's a great experience. We'll have some

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fun and make some money in the NFL. But first

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after a big college football day. Oh and tonight five

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percent on Thursday night football. It just happened that way.

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Last week, we kicked off the week with a five

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percent winter on Thursday Night. This week, I think we're

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going to do the same thing. It warrants it. It

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warrants it. So hopefully we kick off the week with

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a big winner tonight and just keep rolling over. Brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shoke show magazines giving you some credit on he's saying,

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I have to give you credit. Back in April, he

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said the Guardians were going to climb to the top eventually.

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And that was back when Detroit was going to run

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away with the division. I know the office doesn't want

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to hear.

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent of their games the whole year, thank you, brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So now Cleveland, what one game ahead? I guess

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with about I think it's six games to go. We're

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actually for Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I need Seattle in the AL. That would be the

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best sleeper for me and the Phillies. I have the

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Phillies for a big ticket.

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Speaker 1: Well, Seattle's locked that division and I don't know if

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they're gonna get the buye. They've got eighty nine wins

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there like one. Yeah, but see, the thing is the

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two ninety win teams and one of them is gonna

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be the wild card right now in the American League East.

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So you've got a good shot again that bye and Mariners.

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I was gonna say Seahawks. I'm in football mindset again.

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Speaker 2: If I could get the Mariners in there, that's a

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been too long, my friend. I think they trudged schedule

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a couple of sports grid spots, but they didn't happen.

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I didn't do it on purpose, just didn't get the schedule.

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Speaker 4: It's all right, because I'm I'm I'm up at five

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o'clock in the morning during the morning show now anyway, Stave,

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So there's a good chance that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only way it might happen is if you're

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doing the two am and I just haven't gone to

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bed yet. Might catch up. But glad to see your

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hair's not grey, ye, because I see her doing a

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show with the Pres every week, So that's that's good

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to know. Tell us a little about that. Pres just

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sent something yesterday. The show itself is on TikTok and

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Instagram or something. Now I'm not even sure you're aware.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I let Pres do all that because

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you know how technical advanced he is, so I let

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him handle all the social media. Uh No, we just

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finished up, in fact, just recording. I think it just

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got posted there. Arthur Caesar, myself and the press, and yeah,

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Art gives us the daily rundown and of everything you

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need in all what's happening over at the Westgate and

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the book and all the moves, and then we mix

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in a little Major League baseball, we talk college football, NFL,

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so it's very part of the interruption time. Otherwise we'd

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never be able to get pres off camera. So we

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have to put a clock on him, you know how

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that is.

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Speaker 1: Put a bell on him is what we need to

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do find out where he's going. But he's getting plenty

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of camera time. I think he's addicted to this Sunday show.

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I know you've been on the The End Zone Live show,

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which is at one o'clock Eastern all the way through

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the games. And of course he had an emotional breakdown

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when the Eagles got to never in doubt front Door

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cover on Sunday with the block field go return. And

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what's crazy, of course about that, Joe is the guy

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technically should have just gone down. They can't lose at

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that point running it back, you theoretically could fumble and

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have it to run back the other way. But that

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was probably one of the worst good beats or bad

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beats in the history of football, depending on what side

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you're on. I just realized I've never interviewed you for

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a show before. We've done probably a thousand shows together.

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This little surreal Well, what are your thoughts on Thursday

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Night football? Seahawks Cardinals. I talked to Yanni about how

475
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,160
this line is flip flop since I did a video

476
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,039
on it Monday. Arizona was picking on us one. Now

477
00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:12,039
they're a one and a half two point home dog.

478
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,160
Not a surprise because almost ninety percent of the comments

479
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,799
in my video are saying Seahawks are passed. I used

480
00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:20,319
the Seahawks. I think they're the better team, but the

481
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,079
game does make me a little worried to the public

482
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,880
being on the one side, and also the short week

483
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,359
in travel.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, as a matter of fact, this was We discussed

485
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,759
this on the show with Art and I had him

486
00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:33,640
walk us through what the progression was here. And it's

487
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,200
one of those rare times where yep, you've got a

488
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,119
lot of public interest in Seattle, he said, but it's

489
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,839
one of those games in which the pros and the

490
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,039
joes are aligned on Seattle. In fact, he's still expecting

491
00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:48,960
the number to rise a little bit before kickoff in

492
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,279
favor of the Seahawks. And I think a lot of

493
00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:53,119
it has to do with the fact of keep an

494
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,720
eye on the injury report. That secondary of the Cardinals

495
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,880
is banged up in a big way. They've also got

496
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,319
a couple of cluster injuries on the offensive line. I

497
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,039
don't know that they're going to be able to run

498
00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:08,680
the ball with Benson against that front of Seattle. I

499
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,240
don't know that they're gonna be able to throw the

500
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:12,559
ball with the pressure that he is going to be

501
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,200
under as well. So given the fact that the Seahawks

502
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,720
have dominated this series, especially since McDonald has taken over, Steve,

503
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:22,759
I mean, they are eight and one straight up, five

504
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:25,559
and three against the number on the road with him

505
00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:29,000
as their head coach. They've won the last seven against Arizona.

506
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:32,480
I just watched and covered this game on Sunday, Steve,

507
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,480
if I watched Arizona lose to the backups of the

508
00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:38,920
forty nine ers in a hole, the injuries are an

509
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,440
issue and a concern because I can't believe Sam Donald.

510
00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:45,839
I can't believe I'm saying this, but right now he

511
00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:49,240
is one of the top rated most efficient quarterbacks through

512
00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:52,839
three weeks of the NFL season. Here in all points

513
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,519
to Seattle. Having said that, I don't see how we're

514
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,799
getting an over in this game either. I think the

515
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,000
under might be the best fuck in this game.

516
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what if you think it's gonna

517
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,599
be low scoring with that forty three forty three and

518
00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:06,680
a half, that makes the charge of the Cardinals rather

519
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,799
an even stronger teaser play like we are talking about

520
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,759
with Yanni. I think this line move does set Arizona

521
00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:13,319
up now plus seven and a half or more as

522
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:16,680
a decent six point teezer. Seven straight wins I believe

523
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,200
for the Seahawks in this series, and as you mentioned,

524
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,720
the Arizona offense has definitely struggled at times this year,

525
00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,759
even despite playing a pretty weak schedule. James Conner, the

526
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,839
leading rusher Cardinals over two thousand yards the last two years,

527
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,599
is out. As you mentioned, that's why Benson is going

528
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,319
to get the heavy lifting. But yeah, the public, the

529
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,519
Joe's and the pros on the Seattle Seahawks tonight. According

530
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:39,559
to Joe VERNII and Arthur de Caesar at the Westgate

531
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:43,440
Joe Big game tomorrow night on Friday, not my Virginia

532
00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:47,319
Cavaliers against maybe your Florida State Seminoles. I was actually

533
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,119
at this game over twenty years ago. I've got a

534
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,039
ton of Florida State, a ton of Florida State along

535
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,720
here in Williamsburg, believe it or not, and we started

536
00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:55,599
the Seminole Club and we went to this game, like

537
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:57,599
I think it was like two thousand and four. It

538
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,599
was a route, not a surprise. It's a pretty good

539
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,559
team this year, though, crusted a team called the Wooman

540
00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:05,799
Mary Tribe a couple of weeks ago, gaining seven hundred

541
00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:08,400
yards of offense. I turned the game on in the

542
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,599
middle of the third quarter between two baseball games. I

543
00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:12,559
was at a tournament and it was fifty two to

544
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,960
seven and UVA had six hundred and twenty five offensive

545
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:18,319
yards early third quarter. They were like forty away from

546
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,480
the all time school record. That's how bad it was.

547
00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:25,000
Florida State's been an offensive juggernaut as well. I did

548
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,440
a video for this game. I used the over fifty

549
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,160
nine earlier in the week. Didn't have my ten thousand

550
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,519
game simulation yet, but I've got that run now, so

551
00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:34,039
I want to give everyone an update. I've only got

552
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:36,160
Florida State by two in this game, so I do

553
00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:39,519
like Uba also now at plus seven or more. What

554
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:40,799
are your thoughts on this one.

555
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: This is you know, Aret and I talked about this

556
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:47,519
during the week as well, because I thought all that

557
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,960
early Virginia money might be a headfake where, you know,

558
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:54,000
maybe we can get it down to six and a

559
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,680
half Steve before kickoff and then watch out because all

560
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,400
the seminole money will come back in over the top.

561
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,880
The problem with Florida State is they haven't actually played

562
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,000
a game since they beat Alabama and that was about

563
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,200
a month ago when they started this season. I don't

564
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,640
consider what they did to Kent States any sort of

565
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,759
competition whatsoever. But the reality is FSU is dominated this series,

566
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,400
but they haven't been great on the road or on

567
00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:25,119
neutral site games here since twenty nineteen. They're eleven and

568
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,200
twenty one against the number in conference games since twenty

569
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,599
twenty one alone. So this historically, even though they have

570
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,440
beaten Virginia and they've kind of dominated them, hasn't been

571
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,240
actually a great situation as of late. And of course

572
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,839
we know this is the ultimate look ahead game because

573
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,240
guess who's on deck for Florida State next week. It's

574
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:48,960
the number two team in the country. It's the U

575
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960
So it wouldn't shock me off Florida State. Maybe peeking

576
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,759
ahead here a little bit, but Chandler Marris your quarterback there,

577
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,079
My goodness. I mean they're averaging almost forty six points

578
00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:01,599
a game right now. I don't know how in the

579
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,119
world we're betting on this thing going under. I can't

580
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,880
imagine sweating an under in this game, Steve. It's up

581
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,759
to about fifty nine and a half sixty, and I

582
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:12,319
still don't think that's high enough. I think we're getting

583
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,920
a ton of points and an old fashioned acc shootout

584
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,559
in this one.

585
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Like I said, I like the over

586
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,759
fifty nine on Monday when I put that video out,

587
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,119
it's now fifty nine and a half sixty. I wouldn't

588
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,400
really call those key numbers. Kind of an uncharted territory

589
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,960
with sixty sixty one. I don't know if those are

590
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,319
key numbers. We don't have any research on that, but yeah,

591
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:32,000
these are two teams that could score it on their own.

592
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,359
And how crazy is this, Joe. After the twenty one

593
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,400
points last year against Georgia Tech and that opening loss overseas,

594
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,160
Florida State played eleven more games, ten of them were

595
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,960
against FBS teams. They scored sixteen or less points in

596
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:46,240
every one of those ten games last season. They have

597
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,440
a chance after their fourth game here to have more

598
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,440
points than all of last year combined. That's how improved

599
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,920
this offense us.

600
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: So, I mean dus miles On effect right there with

601
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,759
a running quarterback that is perfectly set up for what

602
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,480
got smiles On wants to do here. So nobody, Steve

603
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:06,960
has been chasing points more than Florida State this year.

604
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,079
They have purposely been been crushing these teams here to

605
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,920
get those numbers and break every record known to mankinds.

606
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said two weeks ago, UVA said, an

607
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,240
all time yardage record in school history over one hundred years,

608
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,279
and then last week they followed it up with almost

609
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:24,920
six hundred yards against Stanford. It was a decent team.

610
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,559
I mean, it's not a one double a team again,

611
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,839
So I like the offense here. I like the over

612
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,920
fifty nine and a half Joe Vernari, Steve Merril, the

613
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,680
two for one special here. It's got zero chance of

614
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200
cashing now, but we'll see what happens. Joe. What else

615
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,799
you got going on? My man? It's great to catch

616
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,680
up with you. No, it is good, Steven.

617
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,279
Speaker 4: You know I'm looking forward to the postseason and Major

618
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,839
League Baseballs.

619
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: We've got another best bet.

620
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: Had the Red Sox in the first five and didn't

621
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,480
have to watch the second inning last night against Toronto.

622
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,720
Here got another game up in Major League Baseball for

623
00:28:55,799 --> 00:29:00,200
nine dollars and my first five percent college football best bet,

624
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:03,000
a locked and loaded Steve. I don't put many of

625
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,279
these out, haven't yet, but this one, Yeah, this one

626
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,559
has to be bet this weekend in college football, so

627
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,079
looking forward to that as well.

628
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,519
Speaker 1: My goodness. If you want to get Jovenire's is that

629
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:15,759
your first five percenter you're saying this season?

630
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:16,079
Speaker 5: That is?

631
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: That's it? Yeah? First one. That's pretty selective. What are

632
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,920
we four or five weeks in here? I will to

633
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,759
check that out, folks. Jover Naiary, he's the best. He's

634
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:25,880
up at five am cap in these games. He knows,

635
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,400
he knows what he's doing. Five percenter released at five

636
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,240
am Eastern Time. Can't lose Jovernirey water time dot Com.

637
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:34,960
All right, let's keep it rolling. Talk about some sharp information.

638
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,039
We had Yannie the great Jovernaiary. Now we've got Dave

639
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,920
Mason from bed Online, perhaps the sharpest sports book in

640
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,279
the world. In my opinion, Dave, and I've already seen

641
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,160
a couple of games which you guys are maybe leaning

642
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,839
a little bit different than the markets. What's going on?

643
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,079
What are your thoughts in this Seattle Arizona game? Joever

644
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Naiy Arthur de Caesar from the Westgate said this week

645
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880
that it's the Joe's and the pros on Seattle. I

646
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,440
did a preview on Monday, Arizona was minus one. Picked him.

647
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,240
Now they're plus one and a half two. It looks

648
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:01,559
like everyone loves Seattle tonight.

649
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody does love Seattle. What is it?

650
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 5: A seventy four percent of betters and seventy four percent

651
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,359
of cash as well as on the Seahawks currently laying

652
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,079
a point.

653
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:11,359
Speaker 3: And a half.

654
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: Took some sharp action, most of it was earlier in

655
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,359
the week when when they were underdogs. Actually, so not

656
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,720
too much game day sharp action yet, but I'm sure

657
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,079
some will come. But yeah, we're gonna need the Cardinals

658
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:26,359
big tonight. It's going to be a big need to

659
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,160
start off the week. We finally won last Sunday Week

660
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,599
one and two we got we got our teeth kicked in,

661
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,960
but last Sunday we finally came back. So we're We're

662
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,880
hoping to continue that momentum into week four.

663
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and usually week three and week four I feel

664
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,319
where those ugly underdogs start to cash a little bit.

665
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,759
I know with my faded the public video last week,

666
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,880
some of the biggest size were Green Bay, Dallas, Tampa.

667
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:51,240
You know, so obviously the public didn't do quite as

668
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,359
well last week as they had earlier. Let me ask

669
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,759
you real quick, I want to look at the college

670
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:56,839
game too. But Johanny and we were talking about NFL

671
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,519
teasers earlier. Now that the Cardinals have gotten to plus

672
00:30:59,519 --> 00:31:01,440
one and a half, plus two in a lot of spots,

673
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,079
low scoring game, forty three to the total, I do

674
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:06,119
think they start to make a decent six point teaser.

675
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,279
How much since you started years ago has the teaser

676
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:11,119
industry changed? I mean I remember when they were even

677
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,359
money back in the nineteen nineties, and they were minus

678
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:16,039
one ten for decades after that. How much have you

679
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,559
had to change things to protect yourself with NFL teasers?

680
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have changes.

681
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: If the industry have changed, you know, petters have gone

682
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,680
sharper and going through the key numbers of course, you know,

683
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,480
gives it better than advantage.

684
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,519
Speaker 3: So you did have to do you have to add

685
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,640
some juice over the years.

686
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:35,359
Speaker 5: Our six point two teamers are minus one ten or

687
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:39,359
minus one fifteen, depending what numbers you go through. But

688
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,279
I mean that's still that's that's still very good compared.

689
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: To some shops these days.

690
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: I mean, one shop out there is you gotta lay

691
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,119
minus one thirty five on an undamn sixteen teaser six

692
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,759
point taser two team teaser. So so yeah, I mean,

693
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,960
and they're they're you know, you're you're you're fighting those

694
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,079
teasers every weekend. I mean, there's using action on teasers

695
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,039
and then moneyline parlay's too than there are the straight wagers.

696
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,480
So you know, I always tweet out the splits for

697
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,960
the you know, the straight wagers, but that tells ten

698
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,119
percent of the story. You know that there's so many

699
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,200
moving parts sometimes it's hard to figure out what the

700
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:16,119
hell we do need?

701
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,319
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts in this college game tonight? We've

702
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:20,920
see a little bit movement on this as well. I

703
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,079
think East Carolina took some early money. Now it's been

704
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:24,839
a bit of a buy back. I don't know if

705
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720
that's sharp action, if it's injury information. The Army quarterback

706
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,279
has been banged up on it, off this season. Army

707
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:31,880
at East Carolina's not on the ESPN.

708
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we currently have ECU lay in four.

709
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: I mean we took two big sharp bets today this morning,

710
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,880
but on opposite side. He took ECU twenty seven thousand,

711
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,240
twenty seven thousand dollar bet on ECU minus four minus

712
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
one ten and then on the other side of Army

713
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,839
plus four and a half also also twenty seven thousand.

714
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, we got some two way sharp action. The

715
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,960
Beck that's two way as well. The Oval overall profit, I.

716
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: Mean it's it's it's pretty even, so not a big

717
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,119
need right now, but there's still so much action you

718
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,720
have to come in.

719
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that's very balanced action sharp, so

720
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,000
on each side on a four point line. How about

721
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,680
Friday's game we just talked about Florida State UVA. We

722
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,279
also have TCU, Arizona State, Houston, Oregon State. Three really

723
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:25,000
good games from now on Friday in college football.

724
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:31,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, sharp on that FSU game Uba plus seven and

725
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:34,160
a half that got hit a bit a little bit

726
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,319
on Florida to Florida State two minus seven minus one day,

727
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:41,119
nothing real big yet sharp wise on a TCU game

728
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,640
CCU and nothing too sharp there a little bit two way,

729
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,720
but nothing that's really moving the neo that much overall.

730
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,079
Speaker 3: Let me let me see the overall action here.

731
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: There's up. The state was two and a half the

732
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,240
other day when I did a video for that game,

733
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,039
and I see it's three across the board. I think

734
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,319
you all have three minus five. So what does it

735
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,160
take like to move a game from minus two and

736
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,239
a half minus one fifteen up to minus three like

737
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,679
that Arizona State games moved?

738
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 5: I mean different different factors. You know, if there was

739
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,039
some sharp action. Sure we did take some on we

740
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:19,800
did take someone on Arizona State minus two and a half,

741
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:24,440
but it wasn't a big, huge, substantial sharp bed.

742
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: I mean we've taken two way.

743
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 5: Sharp on that one, but overall public money and then

744
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,519
on air too, you know that that said, we you know,

745
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,960
we don't mind moving the way the industry's moving to.

746
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 3: We look at Sharp books and I know other books

747
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,480
look at us, So.

748
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,519
Speaker 5: You got to you have to respect all the intel

749
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:42,159
out there, right, I mean, it's it's just we might

750
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,639
not get hit, but there's other respective books out there,

751
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,199
and we see they're moving that our years per cup.

752
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,239
Why there's some books say they don't look at other books,

753
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,239
and then that's nonsense. Why wouldn't you. I mean, if

754
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960
that information is out there on the screen, you got

755
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:57,719
a factor into your moves as well.

756
00:34:58,079 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Right, because the goal is to get balanced action. If

757
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,320
you're the only one hanging to two and a half,

758
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,039
even if you had the juice here, you're still gonna

759
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:04,039
get one sided on that game.

760
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, exactly, you get scalpers get I mean, we

761
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,039
take arms and scalpers and all that stuff too, So

762
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I mean, you don't want to get scalped on a

763
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bad number just because oh you know, we're not moving

764
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,239
because we think it's this. You know, it's sure that

765
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does come into play a little bit. We'll take our sides.

766
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,119
But that being said, you know you have to pay

767
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attention to what else is out there in the industry.

768
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Friday night set up for pretty key numbers

769
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,360
minus seven, minus three, and thirteen and a half of

770
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,400
those three games tomorrow night, So definitely some lines to

771
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keep an eye on for Friday. Real quick. If you

772
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want to throw anything out for Saturday, then I was

773
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,880
going to ask you about some baseball anything else for

774
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,039
Saturday or Sunday, college or pro football catcher up.

775
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Speaker 3: Let's see here, sharp stuff. Let's go. Let's go college first.

776
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: Oregon State plus fourteen, Bowling Green plus eight and a half,

777
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:53,519
Louisville minus a field goal, QS plus six, Stanford minus

778
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:55,360
two and a half, Kentucky plus six and a half,

779
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:58,440
Colorado State minus four and a half. On the NFL,

780
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,920
I'm already mentioned Seattle Vikings minus two, Eagles minus three,

781
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,480
Panthers plus five and a half, Titans plus seven plus

782
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:08,400
one or three are better.

783
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: Chargers minus six are better. Colts plus four and a half.

784
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,519
Speaker 5: Eagles out right minus won sixty, Packers out right minus

785
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:17,320
two ninety some more stuff.

786
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: But that's some of the bigger stuff right now.

787
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,639
Speaker 1: Higher byume love it the sharp action for Saturday and Sunday,

788
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,159
I bet online with Dave Mason Dave real quick on

789
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,599
the way out. Thoughts on baseball? How much do things

790
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,239
change in September once football starts? For y'all, I start

791
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,880
waking up more.

792
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,159
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that it's a long season.

793
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,039
Speaker 5: I mean, good lord, but my no, the action picks up,

794
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:46,039
you know, shoot fivefold, sixfold, sevenfold. You know it's just

795
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:49,679
such a long season. Only the diehards are betting all season.

796
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,960
But now you start getting guys in you bet once

797
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,199
a year, or they might bet early than they you know,

798
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,000
get tired of it.

799
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Speaker 3: Whatever. So the action picks up big time.

800
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 5: And we were still dealing time lines and the kind

801
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,840
of an endangered species in the sports betting industry these days,

802
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,079
more and more books are getting rid of them, but

803
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,599
we're still dealing dime lines. We have some of the

804
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:12,800
best MLB juice out there, so we have a very

805
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:14,960
loyal and faithful MLB uh.

806
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Speaker 3: Player base. So so yeah, we're looking for it.

807
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

808
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Speaker 3: Go fills.

809
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: That's actually very interesting. I was not expect you to

810
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,440
say that the volume picks up. I think the initial thought,

811
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:27,280
you know, in the industry is that everyone thing dies

812
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,559
off in September because people play football. But I guess

813
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,920
you're saying you've got some dormant accounts that revitalize. Come on,

814
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:34,639
I was talking more like.

815
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Speaker 3: Right now, you know, heading into the playoffs.

816
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: But no, you're right.

817
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: I kind of misunderstood the question.

818
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 5: I guess I guess September yet kind of it goes down,

819
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:44,639
especially as a lot of these games don't count. But

820
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,719
now you know, as we head into that, the games

821
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,320
that matter get a ton of action. The games that

822
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,400
don't matter get yawn action. But next week with the playoffs,

823
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:56,079
it'll it'll, it'll go through the roof.

824
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of playoffs, I got to ask you, I don't

825
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,880
really follow the w NBA. Do you get any action

826
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,760
of WNBA playoffs for the regular season overall? This year?

827
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,599
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's better than it used to be,

828
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960
and you know, Kaitlyn Clark definitely had a big part

829
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:13,920
saying in that. I mean, it's one of those sports

830
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,440
where we get decent volume, but it's the it's so

831
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:18,760
much sharp action, right.

832
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: The good thing with Caitlyn Clark is she brought out

833
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,960
a lot of a lot of casuals.

834
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't compare anything to the sports we're

835
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,760
talking about a couple of minutes ago. But for WNBA,

836
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,119
we see more action than ever, and again a lot

837
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:36,079
of it had to do with Caitlyn Clark. But you

838
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,400
know she's out, so that hurts a little bit, but

839
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,199
it takes a lot of sharp action. I mean it's

840
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,199
taken more public action than ever, but it's still you know,

841
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,440
I wish Kaitlyn Kark was playing, because when she played,

842
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,719
I mean, action goes up probably twenty five on those games.

843
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the Tiger Woods of women's basketball for a

844
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,039
little while while she was healthy, No question about it. Dave,

845
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:58,559
great to see you. Actually, I'm sorry I got like

846
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one last question. Andrew Wild one of our loyal viewers.

847
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Any Ryder Cup action he wants to know. Oh, nothing

848
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too sharp?

849
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Speaker 3: I mean yet. I mean there were some sharp bets,

850
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,400
but it really didn't move the needle much on a

851
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,360
three way. We need the team USA right now. They're

852
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,079
minus one forty five room for a tie, just like

853
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,280
soccer always.

854
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Speaker 1: Room for that time.

855
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Speaker 3: Ky would be ty, would be awesome. Europe no good.

856
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,039
Speaker 5: But then you know there's all sorts of other markets too,

857
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,639
but that's that's the market that gets the most most

858
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,320
action by far as that three ways.

859
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: So USA is good, Tie is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Best in the business, Dave Mason from bed online. And

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you know, I'm really big on supporting books or businesses

862
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to do things right. You mentioned those ten cent timelines.

863
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It's ridiculous and more books don't still do it. You

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Speaker 5: Yes, they're at Dave Mason Bol on Twitter. Come on

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