WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:01.480 It's nice eyes. 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:06.839 Unelling yourazy Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:09.599 All right, we've got full lines here, which is the 4 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.359 way I like it. And we're just talking about what 5 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:16.519 are we going to do. The administration, the Colored administration, 6 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:20.679 the Biden administration, in its waning days today authorized or 7 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:25.440 over the weekend, authorized Ukraine to use US missiles that 8 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:29.879 have longer range that we apparently sent at some point 9 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:32.119 in the past. These are not missiles that are being 10 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.200 sent today and may not get there for three weeks. 11 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:39.079 These are missiles that are in the possession of Ukraine 12 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:44.039 right now. We had Well, this is a big step, 13 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:47.840 that's all. And what happens if Putin decides to react 14 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:52.200 and react adversely. Not that that should dictate our foreign policy, 15 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:55.880 but it's a legitimate question, and you folks have given 16 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:59.399 me some really interesting answers. Let's go to Tom and Dorchester. 17 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:00.960 Tom next on night side. 18 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:02.679 Welcome by Dan. 19 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:03.119 Uh. 20 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.280 You get one call it get a little race, but 21 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:14.319 you should these uh, These Ukrainians are they're fascist. Actually 22 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.680 the fast the Batian they fought for Germany or Watwo 23 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:20.879 and yet the dom Bass region was all Russian people. 24 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:26.599 Now the history now they overthrew the first of. 25 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:30.599 All, you're painting with a broad brush right now, they 26 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.239 are under assault. Who's the good guys? Here? Is putin 27 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.719 the good guy? 28 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:39.319 Or there was a civil war in twenty fourteen and 29 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:44.120 the dom Bass regions, the Ukrainians and the fashion Ukrainians 30 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:48.719 win the Dark Mass region killing Russian people. They outlawed 31 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:53.640 the Russian language, they outlawed the Russian church, the church 32 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.359 they had uh and and and they the dorm Bass 33 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.640 region we were just part of the Ukraine asked Russia to 34 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:04.799 come in and help get these Ukrainian fashions out of 35 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:09.080 the down Bass region and then and then help us. 36 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:13.280 So that would be that would be so that would 37 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:17.080 be analogous too. If let us say some of the 38 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.599 people who have come across the border, you know, down south, 39 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.879 have come across and entered the country illegally, but they 40 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.240 feel that they're being treated badly by the United States. 41 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.439 They then would appeal to Mexico to come in and 42 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.560 help them fight the United States. That's the same analogy 43 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:36.919 I wanted. 44 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:40.439 The Bass region Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union. 45 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.800 Now there's no Soviet Union, it's Russia. Russia is a 46 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:48.400 Christian nation. And the fact that they oversee the present. 47 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.759 You think you think Putin is a practicing Christian? 48 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:55.479 Tom, Yes, I do. 49 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:59.280 These are Christians? Yes, you really do. 50 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:01.120 Show him going to church. 51 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:02.039 They showed. 52 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.319 I see pictures with him going to church. I'm telling 53 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:06.639 you it's then. 54 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:09.000 Fourteen. 55 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:11.280 Do you think Putin's a good guy. 56 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:14.560 No, he's not a good guy. But there's no such 57 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:18.159 thing as a good leader. We have we ever hear 58 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.039 any person's shot. Do we have any person in shock 59 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.240 that have survived and any persons that shots that died? 60 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:28.280 Of course we have the world is full of no 61 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:32.159 good leaders. But he's a I think he's a decent leader. 62 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:36.039 He's a Russian leader. He loves his people. We've had 63 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.080 we've had presents to get into like the American people. 64 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:41.879 But we have to go back now that Don meth 65 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.639 Legion said to Russia, can you come in and help 66 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:48.199 us get the gift these as soldiers? 67 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:53.560 Which is then Putin then is really a liberator? 68 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.840 Yes, yes he is, and he wouldn't take And once 69 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:03.120 they got out, Putin said we're leaving after we get 70 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:06.680 the A's up battalion out of your area. And they 71 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:10.919 said that Putin don't bother coming in because they'll only 72 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:12.400 come back as soon as you leave. 73 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:20.199 So so essentially it sounds to me like sounds to 74 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:23.920 me like your sympathies are with Putin? Is the list 75 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:24.600 a bad guy? 76 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:30.240 Z Risk He's a comedian, he's a enough, he's enough. 77 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:35.439 We've put him in there, CIA put him in. There 78 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.079 are bad dudes. I'm telling you if I try to 79 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:40.759 tell people that they are bad dudes. 80 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:42.920 Okay, so what do you think is going to happen 81 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:45.959 when your guy becomes president? Tell us. 82 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.480 He might The Dawn Mass region might go to Russia 83 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:55.120 and then they'll be Ukraine. Russia doesn't want Europe. They 84 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:58.279 don't want to do Soviet Union. It's a completely different 85 00:04:58.279 --> 00:04:59.759 country than the Soviet Union. 86 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:00.839 Putin they. 87 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:07.279 Keep the Crimea, keep the Crimea, and you just well 88 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:11.079 if they if they give the Crimea to the Ukrainians, 89 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:13.639 you know, American ships will be in the Crimea and 90 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.639 the Russians don't want that at all, so they might 91 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:18.879 they might keep the crime. 92 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:25.160 Trump couldn't trust Trump to not put not put Americans 93 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.240 because everybody says that you know Putin or you think 94 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.079 I think that Putin and Trump have a pretty good relationship. 95 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.800 He only talk to him because he's a leader. That's all. 96 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:40.480 He wants peace. Donald Trump wants peace. He doesn't want 97 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:45.360 to let me tell you something else. By the way, 98 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:49.879 yeah yeah, yeah yeah. But Trump was quite a bit 99 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:55.759 better than Neville Chamberlain. And and you know you uh, 100 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:59.959 I'm telling you, Dan, he might get the Don bethleet 101 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.800 and he's gonna keep the Crimea and he's gonna be peace. 102 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:08.319 They're still gonna be a Ukraine. Now, the Ukraine, they're just. 103 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:10.199 Just as small, just a smaller Ukraine. 104 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.040 It'll be a little smaller. But the dom Bass Region 105 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.360 is not that big. But there's all they're all Russians, Dan, 106 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:20.480 they're all Russians and the dom Basque region and they 107 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.079 and they had a civil war in twenty fourteen. They said, well, 108 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.959 you will not speak Russian and you will not go 109 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:34.720 to the Russian Russian Orthodox period, Okay, and they so put. 110 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.480 Basically is fighting is fighting on behalf of the Russian 111 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:39.959 Orthodox Church and. 112 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.879 The Russian people to Russian people. 113 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.319 They have never heard of that analysis before. But let's 114 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:47.759 see if people react to what you have. 115 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:52.160 To say, Tom, then they say one more thing. Jesus 116 00:06:52.240 --> 00:07:00.399 of course, just quickly, Joe Biden said there's no Americans killed, 117 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.000 and we know what puel Americans will kill. But who 118 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:07.319 is responsible for all Ukrainians did, all the Russia did, 119 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:11.000 all the people that live in Jazza dead. There's someone 120 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.279 responsible for that, and I think I know who it is, 121 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:14.759 thank you very much. 122 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:19.720 I think is responsible for the Putin's uh missiles killed. 123 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.199 You would have never gone into you, he would have 124 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:24.879 ever gone with Jukraine. They would have settled that he 125 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:25.600 might might. 126 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.000 What happened. We want to give up your I want 127 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.199 you to get me back and when you know, Tom, 128 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:33.519 I've given you six minutes here, Tom. 129 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:36.560 So, yeah, thank you, thank you, all right, thank you. 130 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.160 Tom By. We'll take a quick break, come right back 131 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.560 here at night side. If any of you want to 132 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.319 react to Tom, you're more than welcome. Six one seven, 133 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.600 two five four ten thirty six one seven nine three 134 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:50.800 one ten thirty. That's the only line that's opening. I 135 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.879 shouldn't even given you the two five four ten thirty 136 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:56.000 six one seven nine three one ten thirty. I think 137 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:02.160 this is either an opportunity or it could lead us 138 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.839 in a direction that probably none of us want to go. 139 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.600 That's where I'm coming from. But I'd love to hear 140 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.040 from you. We'll be back on Nightside right after this. 141 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.000 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 142 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:17.240 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 143 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.279 Okay, let's keep rolling, let's go back, Let's go to 144 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.519 Steve in New Hampshire. Steve next on Nightside. 145 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:26.439 Welcome, Yes, how you doing. 146 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:26.680 Dan? 147 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:30.800 A very interesting topic and yeah, kind of spread it 148 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:32.600 around there, a little bit of World War One and 149 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.679 World War Two, but it seems like this Rusher thing 150 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.840 is the main topic. So I'll just try to make 151 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:44.440 a couple of observations here. What puzzles me is, for 152 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:48.519 some reason, we over the last decade or so, probably 153 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:54.600 even longer than that, actually, we've constantly been expanding NATO. Okay, Now, 154 00:08:55.600 --> 00:09:01.200 it appears to me that after World War Two ended, 155 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:06.320 from that point in time to the current time, I 156 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.960 don't see at any point during that time period that 157 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:14.399 Russia ever has expressed hostile intents to the United States 158 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:18.279 or any Western countries regarding Putin. 159 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:19.759 I know. 160 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.399 What period, what period of time are you suggesting? 161 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:31.039 Well, I think back during Clinton they were like bursts 162 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.039 of NATO expansions, you know, off the top of my head, 163 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:36.240 I can't remember exactly where they were, but well. 164 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:40.840 Look, the Soviet Empire collapsed in nineteen ninety one, Boris 165 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:46.559 sheeltzycan president and all that and Russia had all it 166 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:49.879 could do was to keep themselves, you know, together as 167 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:54.159 a country. At that point, they were focused inwardly. It's 168 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:57.799 only in the last you know, fifteen or so years 169 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:03.039 that Putin has fled Muscle. He went into Georgia south 170 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:03.679 as Sessia. 171 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:04.519 Uh. 172 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:09.480 He took Crimea right after the twenty fourteen Winter Olympics 173 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:13.120 in Sochi, Russia, Russia. Uh. And then obviously he's been 174 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.039 now he's coming up in the third anniversary of the 175 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.840 Ukrainian invasion. So you know, they had they had their goals. 176 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:23.600 I mean, they're they're you know Putin I tried to 177 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:28.360 mention this to John. Putin said that the greatest tragedy 178 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.039 of the twenty twentieth century was the breakup of the 179 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:34.240 old Soviet Union. He'd like to put the so he'd 180 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:35.519 like to put the team back together. 181 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:42.000 Well, I think so were guarding this specific issue. It's 182 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:48.279 it's what started this was the constant encroachment of NATO. 183 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.399 In Putin for a long time has been saying, look, 184 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.440 this has to stop. It has to stop. Finally it 185 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.039 got to the point where they were, you know, wanted 186 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:04.080 to have the Ukraine area, have NATO come in there also, 187 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:09.080 And from what I understand, I can't remember for sure, 188 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.559 but I heard reports, because it's hard to get information 189 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:16.519 sometimes that they were starting to arm up, you know, 190 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.799 NATO was starting to bring arms into the Ukraine. And 191 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.879 at that point it's you know, it appears to me 192 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.639 that Putin has a certain obligation to defend his country 193 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:32.120 and make sure uh you know that he he says, Okay, 194 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.840 this is the line you don't cross. And now, had 195 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:43.519 Putin been expressing hostility towards the West, uh uh you know, 196 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:45.759 then there may be some base for it, right. I 197 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:49.799 see this as Putin just having to make a stand 198 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.879 on behalf of his country. I see no reason why 199 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:56.440 we should look at Putin as someone who's been an 200 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:00.600 evil guy or an unfair player, I think, and dealt 201 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:05.559 with what happened, uh his country pretty well. Uh. I 202 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.000 don't see how while we have any interest whatsoever in Ukraine, 203 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.000 certainly they were clandestine Western interests over there, you know, 204 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.440 muckling around. Uh you know, you go back to the 205 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:21.159 Baden and uh the uh you know when they had 206 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.559 the camera the name the two guys with the y 207 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:26.200 that that he had the Russian guide and they had 208 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:29.679 they flipped over the election and the people stood back 209 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:33.519 up and uh, excuse they got they got the Western 210 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:36.320 guy in, and then the people stood up and they 211 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.519 got the Russian guy back. And so it's kind of complex. 212 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.720 But so so let me so we're kind of drifted 213 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.399 off here for a second. Let me bring you back 214 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.480 to the question at hand. Okay, okay, okay, Joe Biden. 215 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.919 What has compelled Joe Biden to reverse his policy on 216 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:57.159 long range the the accessibility of long range US missiles 217 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:58.080 and the right. 218 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.559 So let's I think, okay, I just I think that's 219 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:06.399 somewhat irresponsible because now this is during the interim period 220 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:09.159 of the election. I mean, we've had an election. Trump's 221 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.759 going to be the new guy coming in, and I 222 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:17.039 think what Biden should have said was, okay, right now, 223 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:21.960 regarding foreign policy, I'm going to stop, you know, my 224 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:25.720 actions now, and I'm going to now allow the Trump 225 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:27.919 team to come in and do what they want. I 226 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.679 think that's kind of irresponsible to do what you did. 227 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:34.720 This is like remember back when I think it was 228 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:39.480 George Bush won lost the election to Clinton. You remember 229 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.679 that because you're your good memory remember that? Okay, Yeah, 230 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:49.799 Now remember at the end of Bush's term, there was 231 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:53.000 some shenanigans going on. I think it was in Somalia, 232 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.279 and that might have been ginned up by you know, 233 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:59.440 clandestine forces of the West, But in any event, that 234 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:03.360 was that event going on in Somalia, and Bush was 235 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.679 one on g uh, should I send you know, American 236 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:12.000 military in? And he never came to a complete decision, 237 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:16.399 and if I remember correctly, until after he lost the 238 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.480 election and he knew Clinton was going to come in. 239 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:20.919 And then when he when he realized that, he said, okay, 240 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.480 I'm going to send it. So, in other words, dropping 241 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:27.279 a quagmire into Clinton's lap. So I think that's just 242 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:30.159 an instant replay of this. It's a defect in how 243 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:34.519 the Constitution was originally written. I mean, once you have 244 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.440 a new regime come in, the old regime should clean 245 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:39.960 up the desk on the same day, and and and 246 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:40.559 you know. 247 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.840 That's the way it works. I mean that that unfortunately 248 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.799 or fortunately, that's not the way it works. When the 249 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:53.159 problems and that allows for shenanigans. We have, Yeah, we 250 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.559 have a different transition of power. In England, they have 251 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:58.799 an election for the prime minister, and you're right, that's 252 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.919 what happens. The next day the guy gets elected, you know, 253 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.960 moves moves into ten Downing Street. Uh, and the old 254 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:07.679 prime minister in with the new one, not with the old. 255 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:10.200 Not the way it works. We have this transition thing. 256 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:15.159 And yeah, and during the period of during the lane 257 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.799 duck period of either of President Bush or President Biden, 258 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.360 they still call the shots. Meaning if tomorrow we had 259 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:27.200 US troops attacked somewhere, Biden, President Biden would be make 260 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.120 the decision as to how to respond. He could certainly 261 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:32.759 talk to Donald Trump if he wanted to, or he 262 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.000 didn't have to talk. He's he's the commander in chief. 263 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:36.919 It's not like we have two commander in chiefs. We 264 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:41.480 have one until you know the second another one is 265 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:44.759 sworn in on January twentieth. That's just that's reality. 266 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:48.120 I know, well that that's that's the problem. I think. 267 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.440 I think at this point Biden probably should have said, look, 268 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.279 it's this is teen Trump is coming in and uh, 269 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:57.120 he can be the next one. But in one macro 270 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:01.879 observation here, I mean, we're constantly haven't war, war, war, war, war. 271 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.480 It always has to be something going on. We were 272 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:08.440 in the you know, uh over there in Afghanistan, in Iraq, 273 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:12.720 the Afghanistan, things like twenty years uh you know what, 274 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:15.320 what what did that accomplish? Nothing? Just a bunch of 275 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:18.120 people that And actually, and I don't want to take 276 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:20.039 up too much of time here, but if you go 277 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.799 back and look at the inception of World War one 278 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.679 World War two, I don't see any reason why there 279 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:29.200 was any you know, any reason to get involved in that. 280 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:30.559 As a matter of fact. 281 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.279 Is so, so, what if you had been the president? 282 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.480 What would have you done after the towers were hit? 283 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.039 Okay, well, now that's something else. Now that Okay, here's 284 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.120 the thing that makes me a little direct question. 285 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.679 It's what it's called the direct question, Steve, What would 286 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:48.519 a gay done? 287 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:51.440 Well, the first thing I would have done was I 288 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.759 would have made sure I was going after the right people. 289 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:58.120 Certainly that was that was a terrible, uh, you know, 290 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.519 a terrible attack on the United States. But I wouldn't 291 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:04.559 have just gone, Okay, what did Iraq have to do 292 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.680 with this stuff? Okay, that's the thing. It seemed to me. 293 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:11.119 You have to be able to defend your country, and 294 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.160 you have to have confident intelligence which knows what's you 295 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.319 know going on in the in the Hindu lands out 296 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.440 in the world, who the good guys are, who the 297 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:23.640 bad guys are, and have some you know, sort of 298 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:29.799 general idea of where you're going to go investigate. To me, uh, 299 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.400 it seemed like it was a very reckless, uh and 300 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:35.039 poorly thought out response. 301 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:38.720 Although again you're telling me everything you would you wouldn't 302 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.599 have done. Okay, what I'm asking you is if you 303 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:46.039 had all the information then that we have, now, what 304 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:48.440 would have you done if you were the president the 305 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:50.079 tow yesterday? 306 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:52.839 If I president, what do you want after nine to eleven? 307 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.000 If I was a president, I would have got together 308 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:58.279 all the clandestine services guys like the CIA and all 309 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.559 these other people. Is like, what you know about what's 310 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:01.920 going on? Who do you think? 311 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.200 And then do you know what was going on? Steve? 312 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.440 Well, later on, Dan, what was going on? 313 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:15.160 Why you had you had you had groups in the 314 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:22.839 Middle East, including al Qaeda, UH, including Isis UH, including 315 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.559 the Taliban UH, all of whom we're looking at the 316 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.119 West as a as as the enemy, as the big 317 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:35.559 Satan and and we little Satan just you wanted you 318 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.000 ask me. See, here's the thing that's different, Steve. I 319 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:41.039 asked you questions. You make a speech, You asked me questions, 320 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:42.480 and I start to give you an answer, and you 321 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:43.000 interrupt me. 322 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:46.279 I'm sorry to complete yourself because I want to make 323 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:49.119 sure I, you know, fully absorb what you say, and 324 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:49.880 I'd like to make up. 325 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:53.759 But we now know. We now know it was it 326 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:58.079 was al Qaeda. We know that eventually the groups called ISIS. 327 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:01.079 We know what the Taliban would doing, we know what 328 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:04.039 the Taliban are now doing. We're seeing the thing play out. 329 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:06.039 Would you if you sit back, What if you sat 330 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.839 back on September twelfth, two thousand and one, and said, hey, 331 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:13.279 you know, you know, maybe they're right. They they they 332 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:15.880 killed the Americans? What would you do? 333 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:19.960 Just okay, let me just make a quick point of that. Okay, 334 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:23.839 here's the thing now. Am I right in my memory 335 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.519 that the response was going into oraq Is that what 336 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.720 happened at Bush two came in and said we got 337 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:31.599 to go. Well, there was a little delay there because 338 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:32.519 Bush one went in. 339 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:37.759 There and we went into We went into Afghanistan first, 340 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:41.400 and then eventually we turned our attention toward a. 341 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.880 Rack Okay, oh, Steve, I got to end it. 342 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.640 Steve, Steve, you know what. I've asked you the question 343 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.640 seven times. I kind of ask you. You know you've 344 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.400 got eleven minutes, Steve, way too long, way too long. 345 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:55.720 Thank you very much for your call. I was really 346 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.599 hoping that you would, with the perspective of time, be 347 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:03.039 able to to tell me what Bush should have done. 348 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.039 That's that's all I was hoping for. But uh, maybe 349 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:07.839 we'll try it again some other time. I gotta go, 350 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.519 thank you. Here comes the news. We got one line 351 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:13.240 at six one, seven thirty. We'll get one line in 352 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:18.119 six one, seven nine. Sometimes I am too generous with 353 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.720 my callers and I asked them the same question to 354 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:22.920 make the point that they do not have an answer. 355 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:25.920 I have to stop doing that and give people one 356 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:28.319 question and when they don't want to answer it, end it, 357 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:33.839 because to keep telling me the same thing is redundant 358 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:36.839 and probably not good radio. We'll be back on Nightside 359 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:37.240 after this. 360 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:45.279 It's Night Side with Boston's news radio. 361 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:51.400 So we're essentially asking a simple question. Are you concerned 362 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:56.079 over the fact that President Biden, in the last waiting 363 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:59.759 days of his administration, has decided to give long range 364 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.519 missiles to run to Ukraine. They can be used in Russia. 365 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.839 And by the way, ladies, you're letting me down here. Okay, 366 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:13.960 I need people who can actually answer the question. If 367 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:16.039 you're not concerned about it, or if you think it's 368 00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:18.880 a great move, that's fine. If you are concerned about it, 369 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:21.559 I'd love to hear from as well. We're going to 370 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:24.680 go to John in North Carolina. John, I apologize for 371 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:28.440 the way that you've endured. Go ahead, John, Oh, no problem. 372 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:31.880 The last two callers I thought were very interesting Steve 373 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:33.880 in New Hampshire and Tom and Dorchester. 374 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:35.680 Yeah, I thought they were interesting. 375 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:40.359 But it's frustrating to me and I don't know, help 376 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.960 me out here. It's frustrating when you ask someone a 377 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:45.680 question and they want to go off and give you 378 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.279 the same answer that's unresponsive to the question. 379 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:53.119 Well, I think maybe people are, you know, given the 380 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.519 circumstances of a call in radio show, they just want 381 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:00.000 to be sure they can make their point, so maybe 382 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.359 take it answer or twice. 383 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:05.799 I keep asking the question, hoping that and I understand 384 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:07.799 what you're saying. But it's like I'm trying to say, okay, 385 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.400 tell me, you know, he immediately goes, this is a 386 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:13.480 horrible mistake what we did. Oh, that's fine. What would 387 00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:16.680 have you done? That's the problem. There's no easy answer. Okay, 388 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:21.400 even with all of the hindsight, there's still there's still 389 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:26.039 no easy answer. Once these people knocked down two towers 390 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:27.200 in New York City. 391 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:30.039 Yeah that's true. 392 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:34.960 But I'm not saying what Bush did or or or 393 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.880 what Obama continued or what I mean. What Biden did 394 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:42.480 on the withdrawal was just insane. To surrender eighty five 395 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:46.079 billion dollars worth of military equipment, uh and and to 396 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:51.119 and to basically leave the badgrum camp and try to 397 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:54.200 do the withdrawal out of Kapoul International Airport. What a 398 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:57.720 disaster that was. And there wasn't one military leader who 399 00:22:57.880 --> 00:22:58.440 was fired. 400 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:02.519 And people and a lot of people say that that 401 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:06.440