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Speaker 5: Got it off?
Speaker 2: What did strongholds? Millions are made here and not a
Speaker 2: single dollar has ever been lost until one day. This
Speaker 2: bright young man makes an innocent mistake that erupts into
Speaker 2: unbelievable consequences.
Speaker 1: Fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Fifty thousand dollars. Turn yourself in, boy, before someone asks
Speaker 2: who's minding them in. We're going through the sore at night.
Speaker 6: Start up.
Speaker 2: The presses run off the fifty thousand impossible. The plates
Speaker 2: are locked in the vault, So we get one more partner,
Speaker 2: somebody who can open safe A safe cracker ridiculous. Where
Speaker 2: do you find a safe cracker? The open A safe
Speaker 2: I got to hear it close.
Speaker 7: I need the hearing age.
Speaker 2: A safe cracker who can't hear this one is a
Speaker 2: solid value blocked with a school teacher.
Speaker 3: She used it only on weekend.
Speaker 2: You didn't mentioned who was going to get you into
Speaker 2: the sewer system. Dean drains in that part of town
Speaker 2: are awful deep.
Speaker 4: We need what.
Speaker 2: A boat? A boat to sail a seward. Wait a minute,
Speaker 2: no problem, I get just the guy to build this
Speaker 2: a boat. Oh no, not a captain of a kiddie park.
Speaker 2: Next you'll get a blonde who also cuts money. In
Speaker 2: an operation like this, there are a few complications, like
Speaker 2: a close call with an electric eye, a nosy little
Speaker 2: dog who insists on getting into the act, a vanishing captain. Genuine, beautiful, wonderful,
Speaker 2: real money and all tax free.
Speaker 4: Four and a half million.
Speaker 6: Dollars so far?
Speaker 2: Four and a half. Can you make it go faster, Harry,
Speaker 2: make it go faster? The most impossible cast of lawbreakers
Speaker 2: ever put together. Jim Huffy, Dorothy Proline. I didn't do
Speaker 2: this for money, Milton Brow, Joey Bishop, Bob Denver, Victor Bote,
Speaker 2: Jack Guilbert, and Walter Brenham has popph.
Speaker 1: You said, Welcome to the projection booth. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Mike Waite me once again as mister Otto Bruno.
Speaker 3: Good day, mister White, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. Also back in the booth is mister Tim Madigan.
Speaker 4: I've worked out a little philosophy for myself. I've learned
Speaker 4: to eliminate the necessities and live for the luxuries.
Speaker 1: Buono Palooza concludes with a look at Howard Morris's Who's
Speaker 1: Minding the Mint? Released in nineteen sixty seven. The film
Speaker 1: stars Jim Hutton as Harry Lucas, a worker at the
Speaker 1: US Treasury who accidentally pill for his fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: He needs to get it back and uses the help
Speaker 1: of a handful of colorful characters, including Verna Baxter played
Speaker 1: by Dorothy Provine, who needs to learn how to make
Speaker 1: better brownies. Otto, When was the first time you saw
Speaker 1: Who's Minding the Mint? And what did you think?
Speaker 3: The first time I saw was a long long time ago,
Speaker 3: So I don't remember, So Tim and I because this
Speaker 3: is one of doctor Tim's favorite movies, So I sought
Speaker 3: it out maybe about five years ago or so, five
Speaker 3: or six years ago and watch again for me, and
Speaker 3: we've talked about this before. All you gotta do is
Speaker 3: look at the cast list, and I know I'm going
Speaker 3: to enjoy watching it, whether it's the greatest movie ever
Speaker 3: written or not, because there's just so many fabulous character
Speaker 3: actors and actresses in it. So I'll let Tim make
Speaker 3: the comparison to It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Mad World.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's not up to that level, but it's that
Speaker 3: type of film, and it's just a lot I think.
Speaker 3: I don't remember if all three of us had talked
Speaker 3: about this yet, or if maybe Tim and I were
Speaker 3: talking about this the other day when we watched it again.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately, it's one of those movies like It's a Mad, Mad,
Speaker 3: Mad Mad World, that if you're too it's almost impossible
Speaker 3: to enjoy it or appreciate. You have to have some
Speaker 3: kind of relationship as a viewer with all the actors
Speaker 3: that in order to be able to really enjoy it.
Speaker 4: But maybe I don't.
Speaker 3: But that's just how I feel about it, and Tim,
Speaker 3: how about yourself.
Speaker 4: I saw this movie countless times when I was a
Speaker 4: kid back in the Stone Age, when there were only
Speaker 4: three channels, and for some reason there were four movies
Speaker 4: that I remember being on all the time, and I
Speaker 4: would always watch them, The out of Towners, the Producers,
Speaker 4: It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Mad World, and Who's Minding
Speaker 4: the Men? And I loved all of them in part because,
Speaker 4: as Otto said, they all had actors, character actors, people
Speaker 4: that I just enjoyed. But another reason was I watched
Speaker 4: them with my father, and he loved these movies and
Speaker 4: he would laugh uproariously. And I probably started watching them
Speaker 4: when I was too young to even know what the
Speaker 4: humor was. But if my father thought it was funny,
Speaker 4: it's funny. And Otto, as we know, did a book
Speaker 4: on the Barney Miller TV show, and Mike You had
Speaker 4: a podcast on it, that too, was something I would
Speaker 4: watch with my father, was his favorite show. And just
Speaker 4: having rewatched this movie with Otto a few days ago,
Speaker 4: it really was like traveling back in time. I happen
Speaker 4: to coincidentally be teaching a course. I'm a professor of philosophy,
Speaker 4: so I'm teaching a course this summer on metaphysics, and
Speaker 4: one of the topics we've been looking at is time travel.
Speaker 4: And I don't know literally we'll ever be able to
Speaker 4: go back in time, but movies and TV shows and
Speaker 4: other popular culture aspects can allow us to do so.
Speaker 4: I felt like I was a ten year old again
Speaker 4: watching the Spree.
Speaker 1: I had never heard of this film before we set
Speaker 1: up this month. So when you guys chose the four
Speaker 1: films with Victor Bono, I said, okay, sure whatever this
Speaker 1: Who's mine the Mint movie is. So this was a
Speaker 1: brand new watch for me. Hadn't heard of it, hadn't
Speaker 1: seen it, didn't know anything about it before I walked in.
Speaker 1: I really didn't want to know anything about it before
Speaker 1: I sat down and watched this and was pretty delighted.
Speaker 1: I was getting a lot of Buena Vista type vibes
Speaker 1: from it, those live action Disney movies. It felt like
Speaker 1: there could be magic in this movie at any moment.
Speaker 1: Flubber could be on the table at some point, but no, Instead,
Speaker 1: it's a comedy heist movie, which I love heist movies
Speaker 1: and I love comedy heist movies as well. So this
Speaker 1: really scratching it for me that I didn't know that
Speaker 1: I had. And then yes, the cast for this is
Speaker 1: just amazing and the way that the plot plays out,
Speaker 1: and not to jump too far ahead already, but the
Speaker 1: way the plot plays out where it's okay, in order
Speaker 1: to do this thing, I need to get this guy
Speaker 1: and he needs something and we need another piece of
Speaker 1: the puzzle, so we go to another person and he
Speaker 1: needs something else, we go to another piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of one of my most favorite episodes
Speaker 1: of Mash Ever, the one where Hawkeye orders those ribs
Speaker 1: from Chicago and he has to keep making deals with
Speaker 1: people and getting this guy this thing in order to
Speaker 1: get to here, to get to there before they can
Speaker 1: order Adam's ribs and have them delivered to the four
Speaker 1: oh seven seven.
Speaker 8: It's a place in Chicago. You're the Dearborn Street station.
Speaker 8: I don't know the name of it. They served ribs
Speaker 8: the best in the world. Get a barbecue sauce with it,
Speaker 8: a flamboyant devil may Care yet introspective sauce, spare ribs ambrosia.
Speaker 3: The guys on o lipus.
Speaker 8: When I got tired of PG they sent out for
Speaker 8: these ribs.
Speaker 3: Hah, yum yum.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to have an accident.
Speaker 3: Get him the barbecue ribs, Henry. I gotta have those
Speaker 3: ribs so.
Speaker 2: I get ready to go into labor I'll get them somehow.
Speaker 1: I love that episode, and I really like a movie
Speaker 1: like this where it's, oh, here's this person and he
Speaker 1: needs this thing. And of course when we get to
Speaker 1: Victor Bono and he's obsessed with boats and dresses as
Speaker 1: a captain and what was it. He's like one of
Speaker 1: the youngest guys in this whole movie, but he looks
Speaker 1: like he's the oldest guy, maybe only second to Walter Brennan.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is like a classic plot device, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a classicist and does this like
Speaker 3: Shakespeare or something, because I think.
Speaker 4: It goes back to Alcibiades.
Speaker 3: Actually, you can just tell that you've seen it in
Speaker 3: different ways in different vehicles before. It doesn't always work
Speaker 3: as well as I think it. Definitely, I remember that.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big mash person, but I definitely remember
Speaker 3: that episode of Match.
Speaker 4: I always have said to my kids.
Speaker 3: Fires is one of the hardest type of comedies to
Speaker 3: pull off. When it's good, it's really really good. But
Speaker 3: when it's bad for me, at least personally, it just
Speaker 3: falls so flat that it's hard to watch. I know,
Speaker 3: you get frustrated along with Jim Hutton in this movie
Speaker 3: Hutton basically is the star. He has to Well, I'm sure, Mike,
Speaker 3: you're gonna give the plot of the movie. It's just
Speaker 3: interesting because he makes you the viewer relate to him
Speaker 3: in that way, just sing it the myriad implausibility of
Speaker 3: this plot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not going to talk about serial numbers on
Speaker 1: these bills at all, because that would immediately just blow
Speaker 1: up this home.
Speaker 3: I didn't say it right away. It took me a
Speaker 3: few minutes, and then I finally turned him and I said,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, aren't the bills gonna be counterfeit anyway
Speaker 3: because they all have serial numbers? Don't those have to
Speaker 3: be registers.
Speaker 4: Another reason I've loved this movie and loved it when
Speaker 4: it was on is because of its star, Jim Hutton.
Speaker 4: That was one of the glue for that series of
Speaker 4: Hal Lyndon didn't really get the laughs, but that allowed
Speaker 4: all the other cast members or the Andy Griffiths show.
Speaker 4: And in a sense, he's the figure here at the beginning,
Speaker 4: he's a playboy. That line I said at the beginning,
Speaker 4: it comes from him. Early on he's living this playboy life.
Speaker 4: But very early on he's the serious one. And as
Speaker 4: the characters get more and more absurd. He's the one
Speaker 4: who helps it stay together. And he also appeared in
Speaker 4: what was my favorite TV show when I was a kid,
Speaker 4: The Ellery Queen Show, because in addition to my father
Speaker 4: loving those movies, he loved mysteries and he would get
Speaker 4: the Ellery Queen magazine and we had all kinds of
Speaker 4: Ellery Queen novels. So soon as I learned how to read,
Speaker 4: in addition to Sherlock Holmes, I read so many Ellery
Speaker 4: Queen's stories as I could, and suddenly there's a TV
Speaker 4: series with Jim Houghton and David Wayne as his dad,
Speaker 4: and it was only on one season, so it broke
Speaker 4: my heart when it went off the air. But seeing
Speaker 4: him again brought back memories of that show too.
Speaker 1: Whendn't he break the fourth wall and say do you
Speaker 1: know how they did it? Towards the end of every episode?
Speaker 4: Yeah? That was fun. And of course some of them
Speaker 4: I think were based on stories I had read, so
Speaker 4: that gave me a leg up. But I would read
Speaker 4: the Accual Parrots stories and the Miss Marple and then
Speaker 4: I stopped after a point when I realized I was reading.
Speaker 4: When I said, I've read this before, I still can't
Speaker 4: figure out who did it, but I said, maybe it's
Speaker 4: time to move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was what Levinson and Link moved
Speaker 1: on to. Right after Columbus. I think was Ella Queen.
Speaker 4: I think it came out in seventy six.
Speaker 3: I believe seventy six seventy seven, So sadly, even if
Speaker 3: it had not gotten canceled, it wouldn't have lasted much
Speaker 3: more than three years because poor Jim Hutton died very
Speaker 3: young in nineteen seventy, so.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if he had lived to see the
Speaker 1: success of his son, Tim, because as soon as I
Speaker 1: see the name Hutton, I was like, Oh, I wonder
Speaker 1: if he's related to Tim Hutton. And of course he's
Speaker 1: the spitting image at times. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: moments in this movie where I'm like, oh, he looks
Speaker 1: a lot like Tim Hutton. But then there are other
Speaker 1: times where I think he looks like Dean Jones, which
Speaker 1: I think adds to the disney ness of this film
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 4: I just watched on YouTube Timothy Hutton's Academy Awards speech,
Speaker 4: and of course he thanks all the cast members of
Speaker 4: Ordinary People, and Mary Tyler Moore is one and Jack
Speaker 4: Lemon give him the awards. So somebody in the description
Speaker 4: said they finally got to kiss Mary Tyler Moore because
Speaker 4: in the movie she was just and wouldn't kiss him.
Speaker 4: But it's very poignant because at the end he says,
Speaker 4: I want to thank my dad, who I wish was here.
Speaker 4: He died just before his son won the award. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really like him as this straight man, but he's
Speaker 1: a very flustered straight man through so much of this.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like you said, he is this playboy living
Speaker 1: this life where he's got deals that he is testing
Speaker 1: out limos and he's basically a scam artist and he's
Speaker 1: just getting all these free clothes and he's got a
Speaker 1: neighbor who comes over and brings him din din. And
Speaker 1: I love his distinction between dinner and din din, and
Speaker 1: that dinner means that you've got obligations. You know, there's
Speaker 1: going to be kids involved at some point. You know,
Speaker 1: it's basically throwing the shackles around your arms as dinner,
Speaker 1: but means there's a little bit of fun.
Speaker 3: Afterlud he kind of unravels because, like Tim said, starting out,
Speaker 3: he's like the cool cucumber and he's you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I want to say, he's serious about it,
Speaker 3: But it's one of those jobs ideas just the same
Speaker 3: day in day out. They don't film it this way,
Speaker 3: but it's a kind of job that I picture if
Speaker 3: you remember that opening shot of the apartment where Jack
Speaker 3: Lemon comes into the office, that vast sea of desks
Speaker 3: all lined up in a row. So it's this kind
Speaker 3: of mundane job that he just does every day to
Speaker 3: make some money. But out when he's away from the job,
Speaker 3: he's a cool, swinging playboy, having a good.
Speaker 4: Time, no worries.
Speaker 3: And then he accidentally takes fifty thousand dollars out of
Speaker 3: the mint by mistake. He doesn't even realize he does it,
Speaker 3: and then, to add insult to injury, grinds it up
Speaker 3: in the garbage's photal. So he's got to figure out
Speaker 3: a way to not steal money, but to just make
Speaker 3: enough fifty thousand dollars to replace it so that he
Speaker 3: doesn't get in trouble.
Speaker 4: And trying to do.
Speaker 3: That, he has to hire the surfaces of all these lunatics,
Speaker 3: and as you said, each one keeps getting goofier and
Speaker 3: goofier than the.
Speaker 4: One before them, And now all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: He's the ring master of this service, which is not
Speaker 3: something he was cut out for.
Speaker 1: No, and he is very much under the microscope of
Speaker 1: his boss, who is I can't remember his first name.
Speaker 1: A Link is the last name, so he keeps calling
Speaker 1: him the missing link and all of these different sausage link.
Speaker 1: I don't know any type of link that you can
Speaker 1: possibly think of. And he's great. I really like the
Speaker 1: actor of the Place's Boss, And unfortunately I think he
Speaker 1: died right after this, because this is his last movie
Speaker 1: and his state of death is in nineteen sixty six,
Speaker 1: so probably right after the wraps shooting for this one.
Speaker 4: The casting is great because we have the name actors
Speaker 4: who we love, but even the bit actors as Otto
Speaker 4: and I were watching James, Oh that guy that, by
Speaker 4: the way, is jumping to the end. Paul Winfield plays
Speaker 4: the garbage man at the end. Witch great seeing him.
Speaker 4: I'm sure when I saw the movie on TV long
Speaker 4: long ago, I know that was before Sounder, I probably
Speaker 4: hadn't seen Sounder yet, so I wouldn't have drawn that connection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not even in the credits, I believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why it's always fun to go be for me.
Speaker 3: To look at the people who are in the movie
Speaker 3: but are uncredited. Like at one point Tim and I
Speaker 3: are watching it in the place and I turned to
Speaker 3: Tim I said, I look like a Meal Sitka and
Speaker 3: Tim said no, really, I said it looked like it.
Speaker 3: So I immediately, you know, check it up on IMDb
Speaker 3: and I said, yeah, that's who it was. Emil Sitka
Speaker 3: was the janitor. Uh yeah, Johnny Silver is in it
Speaker 3: but not credited.
Speaker 4: Donald A. Miliar.
Speaker 3: A lot of familiar fits, some of these, some people
Speaker 3: I love. Once in a while you can find people
Speaker 3: who's entire your career is like four hundred credits, and
Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty eight of them are on credit.
Speaker 1: I love the guy who plays the accountant that comes
Speaker 1: in and is telling him how much he loves his
Speaker 1: bookkeeping and loves his fours.
Speaker 3: That's Brian O'Byrne.
Speaker 1: Oh so good.
Speaker 4: I love that a lot of Yeah, he was in.
Speaker 3: A lot, a lot of stuff when we were young.
Speaker 4: I remember him.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes those fours can look like nines at
Speaker 1: rank crewe to me because I have terrible handwriting, and
Speaker 1: my fours do look like nine.
Speaker 4: So when I can, if I write a number down,
Speaker 4: then later, so I can't read it. What is that?
Speaker 3: I can vouch for the fact that Tim has some
Speaker 3: of the worst handwriting I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: In my wife, the hunting character is doing his job
Speaker 1: so well that instead of there being a figure missing,
Speaker 1: we've got the overseer coming in and telling him how
Speaker 1: neat a s handwriting is, just how wonderful he is, basically,
Speaker 1: and that just drives his boss into even more apoplectic behavior.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's this whole thing in here. Why I
Speaker 1: brought up the brownies at the beginning. One of his
Speaker 1: office mates keeps making brownies, and apparently they are horrible,
Speaker 1: absolutely terrible, but she gives them out like crazy, and
Speaker 1: he accidentally swipes a couple brownies into a brown paper bag.
Speaker 1: He's going to try to pawn them off to one
Speaker 1: of the security guards, which is a nice little bit
Speaker 1: of business because not only does he sweep the brownies
Speaker 1: in there, but he also sweeps this big old bundle
Speaker 1: of bills in there, and you think he's just going
Speaker 1: to hand that over right to that security guard, but no,
Speaker 1: security guard's wise. No more brownies, please. I had them
Speaker 1: yesterday and they were awful.
Speaker 4: Not again, please, No, Well, I think he's also going
Speaker 4: to put it in a trash can and then it
Speaker 4: comes out and stops. He doesn't want her to see
Speaker 4: he's throwing away or brownies. I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he meets Bob Denver, who's the first one
Speaker 1: of these lunatics that he gets to meet, and Bob Denver,
Speaker 1: God bless him. I watch a lot of Gillis and
Speaker 1: of course Gilligan's Island when I was growing up. I
Speaker 1: love his face. I just love how expresses his face
Speaker 1: is like when he his eyes get really big and
Speaker 1: sometimes a little cross eyed, and he just is so
Speaker 1: earnest in his delivery all the time. I just love
Speaker 1: watching him. And yeah, that little bit of business with
Speaker 1: the brown paper bag, how he's about to throw it
Speaker 1: in and then throws it behind us back and Bob
Speaker 1: catches it and then hands it it.
Speaker 3: I admit I like Bob Denver and stuff like this,
Speaker 3: And even in Adobe Gillis more than I did Gilligan.
Speaker 3: I was never a Gilligan fan. I did them in
Speaker 3: in Dope.
Speaker 1: He was great manner. Chid Krebs was a great, great character.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of neat that he gets get paired
Speaker 3: up with Jackie Joseph in this movie, Big Joseph, Tim
Speaker 3: and I were saying, she's gotta be It's her and
Speaker 3: Jamie Farr certainly the only two of the main casts
Speaker 3: that are left, but maybe the only two except for
Speaker 3: some of the kids that we saw who weren't credited
Speaker 3: in there, who might still be around. But she's still
Speaker 3: a right sounds well, she's a Facebook friend and we
Speaker 3: have other freshs you know, that know her better.
Speaker 4: It sounds like she's.
Speaker 3: In great shape Knockwood, so that's nice that she's going.
Speaker 1: I grew up with her mostly knowing her as Missus
Speaker 1: Futterman from Gremlin's and I love that she kind of
Speaker 1: fell into that Joe Dante camp and probably was in
Speaker 1: that camp because she was all the way back in
Speaker 1: Little Shop of Horrors, So she ended up being in
Speaker 1: things like Small Soldiers and just these other Dante things
Speaker 1: that he did because he loved those old movies. Of course,
Speaker 1: Walter Paisley, the name shows up in so many of
Speaker 1: the Dante stuff.
Speaker 3: I remember her as Rowena from the Andy Griffiths Show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of connections to the Andy Griffith Show.
Speaker 1: We should probably talk a little bit about the director
Speaker 1: of this Howard Morris, who was Ernest T. Bass on
Speaker 1: the Andy Griffiths show. My God, that guy's hilarious. And
Speaker 1: as soon as I saw his picture on Wikipedia, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I know this guy. I've seen
Speaker 1: him so many times, and I'm not even a fan
Speaker 1: of your show of shows, but I know the uncle
Speaker 1: goofy character, every holy cap Oh him and Sid Caesar
Speaker 1: and that embrace that just will not end. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: so good. And then there's all this connection between him
Speaker 1: and cartoons and cartoon voices. Same thing with the actress
Speaker 1: we were just talking about. She was in a bunch
Speaker 1: of cartoons. There's a whole bunch of I think him
Speaker 1: and the two writers that he worked with on this
Speaker 1: also did a man called Flintstone. They also did with
Speaker 1: six You Get egg Roll and a few other films together.
Speaker 1: He yeah, I was very surprised that he was not
Speaker 1: just the actor but also the actor director. And I
Speaker 1: think he does a great job in this. I love
Speaker 1: some of the use of the freeze frames and the editing,
Speaker 1: which I know is not necessarily him editing that stuff.
Speaker 1: But this film comes together very well.
Speaker 4: It moves fast, and which is a virtue because as
Speaker 4: you know, comedies in general should be an hour and
Speaker 4: a half cops and so many of them, you know,
Speaker 4: they wear out there welcome And this lays out the
Speaker 4: plot because again going back to your earlier point, it's
Speaker 4: kind of a heist movie and a farce because the
Speaker 4: first part is saying, how are you going to do that?
Speaker 4: And we the audience know it's all laid out, very meticulous.
Speaker 4: We had an hour to get in. You do this,
Speaker 4: you do that, and then of course it all goes awry.
Speaker 4: You know that answer the fun because we know what
Speaker 4: they're supposed to do, and then midway through the film
Speaker 4: suddenly that twist when oh no, you know, after tomorrow
Speaker 4: we're all going to be automated, so he's got to
Speaker 4: call everybody up when they're not ready. So I think
Speaker 4: the directing is great. It's interesting that Morris, as far
Speaker 4: as I recall, doesn't have a little cameo.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't see himself in and.
Speaker 3: He did a lot of voice work, so he could
Speaker 3: have even just put his voice in there like mel
Speaker 3: Brooks did with the producers in his first fit and
Speaker 3: he and he doesn't even do that. Was that's like
Speaker 3: maybe the only disappointment of this is that he didn't
Speaker 3: put himself in there somewhere.
Speaker 4: But go back to the Andy Griffith thing.
Speaker 3: Alan and Bullock, the writers of this were Andy Griffith
Speaker 3: Show writers as well, So there's there's a lot of connection.
Speaker 3: In fact, think I said to Tim at one point,
Speaker 3: I said, Wow, you got Dazzy lou Vat in this movie,
Speaker 3: because there's so many of those familiar faces who worked
Speaker 3: in those shows in the sixties or fifties. And the
Speaker 3: other thing Tim and I talked about, and I was
Speaker 3: thinking about this later, was Howie Morris, like you just said,
Speaker 3: was famous for Ernest T. Bass on the Andy Griffith Show. Well,
Speaker 3: everybody who loves the Andy Griffith Show, if you're honest,
Speaker 3: you have to acknowledge the fact that, despite the fact
Speaker 3: that the show was set in North Carolina, there are
Speaker 3: very few people of color throughout the history of that
Speaker 3: show that you get to see. And Tim and I
Speaker 3: were saying, there's a lot of people in this movie
Speaker 3: of people of color and different backgrounds. How he's got
Speaker 3: African Americans playing guards, police officers. No, that's pretty unusual
Speaker 3: for the time. Garbage man too, and a garbage man
Speaker 3: but yeah, but I'm saying there and I just thought
Speaker 3: they was interesting. I'm thinking, yeah, I wonder if you know,
Speaker 3: by that time he had already been working on the
Speaker 3: Andy Griffith Show for a number of years, if he
Speaker 3: was aware like, oh, you know, you got some mixture
Speaker 3: of types even in the background, because remember he's stars
Speaker 3: with a pretty liberal, progressive group of guy, said Caesar
Speaker 3: Kyle Reiner mel Brooks, you know all those people.
Speaker 4: On your show of show.
Speaker 3: I just wondered how, I mean, obviously it had to
Speaker 3: be done on purpose.
Speaker 4: You didn't do something like that by accident.
Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 1: I real quick want to read a line from his
Speaker 1: Wikipedia page because this just blows my mind. During World
Speaker 1: War Two, he was assigned to a United States Army
Speaker 1: Special Services unit where he was the first sergeant. Maurice
Speaker 1: Evans was the company commander, and Carl Reiner and Werner
Speaker 1: Klemper were soldiers in the unit. Based in Honolulu. The
Speaker 1: unit entertained American troops throughout the Pacific. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: that group of guys together. And that sets the stage
Speaker 1: right there too, because he also worked not only with
Speaker 1: Carl Reiner and then of course with mel Brooks, and
Speaker 1: you see him show up in mel Brooks films. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember if it's High Anxiety where he's like
Speaker 1: this crazy professor with the voice and everything, no lil
Speaker 1: ol'man okay, thank you. And then ernder Klemper of course
Speaker 1: with Hogan's heroes, because all of these guys turn around
Speaker 1: and work on Hogan's heroes as well. Yeah, looking at
Speaker 1: the writer's credits, you just see the same things between
Speaker 1: all of them, like the Flintstones, Top Cat, Wait Till
Speaker 1: Your Father Gives Home, Alice, the love Boat, And that's
Speaker 1: both in writing and in directing.
Speaker 3: It's crazy Jackie Joseph doing voices. I remember Jackie Joseph
Speaker 3: from Josie and the Pussycat. She was one of the
Speaker 3: voices of one of the Pussycats. I don't know which one,
Speaker 3: but I know that I know for sure that was
Speaker 3: her voice. Maurice Evans, if I'm not mistaken. Was Samantha
Speaker 3: Stevens father I'm Bewitched, And of course one of the
Speaker 3: great Shakespearean actors as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course doctor Isaiahs. And then wasn't he
Speaker 1: also a villain on Batman as well? I know he
Speaker 1: wasn't mister Freeze because that was otto premajer. But I
Speaker 1: aware that Maurice Sevens was villain. He was the puzzler.
Speaker 3: Ah, there you go, and poor Maurice Evans if Batman
Speaker 3: wasn't lowering himself enough. He even ended up doing one
Speaker 3: of the last things he did was a love boat episode.
Speaker 1: Like I said, these guys were doing love boat episodes.
Speaker 1: The two writers wrote and Howard Morris directed. This is
Speaker 1: probably the most restrained I've ever seen Walter Brennan in
Speaker 1: a film. He has the ability to go crazy. And
Speaker 1: of course we've seen him kind of as that little
Speaker 1: old man again, you know, like Rio Bravo and things. Oh,
Speaker 1: you guys are just upsetting me, you know, like wearing
Speaker 1: an apron and all these things super feminized. But here
Speaker 1: I guess, well, he's feminized a little bit insofar as
Speaker 1: he's the proud papa to his dog who's about to
Speaker 1: have puppies. And that becomes a running thing through the
Speaker 1: entire movie. And the other running joke that we have
Speaker 1: through the whole movie is Jack Guilford, the inimitable Jack Guilford,
Speaker 1: who I just freaking love watching that guy him and
Speaker 1: his hearing loss and that he's been working in the
Speaker 1: machine shops in prison for so long he can't hear anymore.
Speaker 1: So that is really the first thing. Actually, Brennan says,
Speaker 1: we need a safecracker. So the safecracker we get is Guilford,
Speaker 1: but he can't hear, so then he needs to get
Speaker 1: end the hearing aid. So that we had on over
Speaker 1: to Milton Burrell. Yet another piece of television royalty.
Speaker 4: That gets back to the question of how all of
Speaker 4: these characters how they know each other. Because when Harry
Speaker 4: the Jim Hutton character is asked by Pops the Walter Brennan,
Speaker 4: how'd you know how to find a safecracker? Says I
Speaker 4: asked some cops. I love the headline and say, yeah,
Speaker 4: he told me, said this guy's getting out in the
Speaker 4: day or stuff. I got the impression.
Speaker 3: And this was one question I had that Hutton had
Speaker 3: dealt with Burl's character Luther, that he had done with
Speaker 3: him before, and I'm thinking why, like, you couldn't get
Speaker 3: a hearing aid from anybody better than Luther. So he's
Speaker 3: so Milton Burl or saying Tim and I were saying
Speaker 3: it was a perfect role for him. One of the
Speaker 3: better things he ever did, because it was so well
Speaker 3: written for his type of character. And as I believe
Speaker 3: Tim said this that day we were watching it, it's
Speaker 3: the type of character that could have easily been played
Speaker 3: by Phil Silvers as well. But that was my first thought.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, why would you go to
Speaker 3: a guy like this just to get a cheap era
Speaker 3: of of hearing aids. I mean, you couldn't have gotten
Speaker 3: it from someplace else. But the other funny that I
Speaker 3: thought about after, I don't know if you or Tim
Speaker 3: just said it about how he lost his hearing because
Speaker 3: of all the machine shops that he worked and in prison.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of the magic of comedy because
Speaker 3: in a sense, you could play that situation as tragic,
Speaker 3: but instead they turn it around and it's a comic situation,
Speaker 3: you know, because you know it's one of these guys. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we spent a lot of time for safe cragging,
Speaker 3: but he obviously wasn't a violent man in any way.
Speaker 3: Gentle lazed potato chip salesman be a violent you know.
Speaker 4: Crackerjacks.
Speaker 3: Crackerjack, Yeah, and Crackerjack that's yeah, that.
Speaker 1: They have to cheap out and get a used hearing aid.
Speaker 4: Hearing aids are expensive, I can attest to that. Who
Speaker 4: knows what in nineteen sixty six, so print up another sheet.
Speaker 4: There were two comedians I never found funny, Milton Burrell
Speaker 4: and Joey Bishop, and yet in this film they're they're
Speaker 4: not just bearable, they're actually very good. And also Milton
Speaker 4: Burrell and it's a mad, bad, mad mad world. I
Speaker 4: liked him very much in both of those film And
Speaker 4: also so I don't know if you've ever done The Oscar,
Speaker 4: which is one of the worst movies ever made, but
Speaker 4: he's smart enough to realize in that movie, where everybody
Speaker 4: else is overplaying, he underplays. But this movie, it is
Speaker 4: a perfect role for him, because again it is that
Speaker 4: Phil Silver's kind of Hi, how are you? You know? Guy?
Speaker 4: You know who's gonna take your wallet when you're not looking.
Speaker 4: And that's also I think the point in the film
Speaker 4: when you realize, okay, now they're in it real deep.
Speaker 4: But first it was just Pops who wanted to run
Speaker 4: the machinery one more time for old time's sake and
Speaker 4: wasn't expecting anything in return. And then they get Jack Guilford,
Speaker 4: the safe cracker, but they offer him two thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: which we figured outs I guess roughly about nine thousand
Speaker 4: more or less. Now not a lot of money, No,
Speaker 4: nineteen thousand, nineteen. Now you're talking. But still once they
Speaker 4: get Milton Burl and you realize it's this is gonna
Speaker 4: get out of hand.
Speaker 3: Burrell is the instinct of the of the money issue
Speaker 3: because he's the one who is so greedy. He keeps
Speaker 3: wanting more and more, and he keeps pushing all the
Speaker 3: rest to want more. To the little devil on the shoulder,
Speaker 3: you know, he's put to want more as well. And
Speaker 3: I just wanted to quickly say I agree wholeheartedly with Tim.
Speaker 3: I never found Milton burrole funny, and yet I loved
Speaker 3: him in It's.
Speaker 4: A Mad, Mad, Mad Mad World.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of he's one of the best
Speaker 3: characters in that film, and it's by far, for me,
Speaker 3: the best thing he ever did.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this a little bit on the
Speaker 1: show before, but as far as comedians that kind of
Speaker 1: overstayed their welcome or that were just forced down in
Speaker 1: your throat when you're younger, Bob Hope or George Burns,
Speaker 1: and then Milton Burrell now I've not gone back and
Speaker 1: rediscovered Burrel and found that he was absolutely fabulous, but
Speaker 1: I have with Burns and with Bob Hope. But of
Speaker 1: course when they're octogenarians, non genarians centurions in on my TV,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, get these guys off of here. These
Speaker 1: are so cornball, this is awful stuff, and just still
Speaker 1: trying to be relevant. I remember George Burns on the
Speaker 1: cover of What Was a Penthouse with Vanessa Williams. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, what why is George Burns on the cover
Speaker 1: of this Born magazine? But Okay, I've never gone back
Speaker 1: and rediscovered Milton Berle and been like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is really funny stuff. He's always just been annoying to me,
Speaker 1: but he plays it perfectly in this. And he also
Speaker 1: introduces probably the weakest link of this whole movie, and
Speaker 1: not in so far as his acting chops, but just
Speaker 1: the manner of Joey Bishop, because he is in itinerant
Speaker 1: gambler who is in for all kinds of money to
Speaker 1: so many people. And I love when they show him
Speaker 1: that he's on the phone and he's reading the racing
Speaker 1: record and just talking with Burrel on the phone, and
Speaker 1: then they cut to that wider shot and you see
Speaker 1: just nothing else in that room. There's just the racing record,
Speaker 1: the crate that he has instead of any sort of
Speaker 1: table or anything, sitting in like a folding chair. His
Speaker 1: son's in front of the box and just seems very
Speaker 1: put out, and then of course the wife is incredibly
Speaker 1: put out, and you're just like, oh, this guy's trouble.
Speaker 4: I would not.
Speaker 1: Want him on my crew if I was doing anything.
Speaker 1: And don't they use him just for what it is
Speaker 1: he getting the truck for them?
Speaker 4: No, he's a sewer worker.
Speaker 1: The sewer worker, thank you.
Speaker 3: He's the one who knows how to men, you know,
Speaker 3: how to get out of there. Because at some point
Speaker 3: hot and discovers or maybe he already knew it was there.
Speaker 4: It looked up.
Speaker 3: They have the submarine top in the in the basement
Speaker 3: of the building that goes into the super for some
Speaker 3: unknown Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Seems like some sort of security breach could happen there,
Speaker 1: especially the guy who just comes in is doing his
Speaker 1: rounds and closes it up, and you're like, he's not
Speaker 1: going to look to see if somebody came in here
Speaker 1: that he felt like a stormtrooper. Let's do your job.
Speaker 3: Because it was obviously unlocked. He put the seal back
Speaker 3: on it. And well, I said to Timm, he's walking
Speaker 3: up the stairs and the stairs had no backing on him.
Speaker 3: I said, how is he not seeing those six people
Speaker 3: right behind huddle behind the stairs.
Speaker 4: Also, all of those people were soaking wet, so there
Speaker 4: would have been water. It stands all around, and he
Speaker 4: did the city. But again, you gotta suspend. You just
Speaker 4: believe these kind of films. Elim didn't find out about
Speaker 4: this because he knew how to work at stewer and
Speaker 4: he would have been in and out, but millions of
Speaker 4: dollars far less time.
Speaker 1: But he needed a boat, and these guys need a
Speaker 1: boat to go through the sewers. So they ended up
Speaker 1: hiring Victor Buono here as the captain the kiddie ride.
Speaker 1: And he just is very, very nautical. He reminds me
Speaker 1: of a character that a rip Torn or somebody would
Speaker 1: play later on, just like taking his job way too seriously,
Speaker 1: has some sort of mental problems. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's ever really been on a real boat, but I
Speaker 1: love that every time we see him, he's standing behind
Speaker 1: the wheel of a ship, like even when they cut
Speaker 1: from him out by the ride to his private chambers,
Speaker 1: and he's got that wheel in front of him and
Speaker 1: he's just, oh my god. He is giving some great
Speaker 1: speeches about the sea, and all of these nautical things
Speaker 1: love this role for him, and I just wish it
Speaker 1: was bigger.
Speaker 5: May I say that I've looked forward life time for
Speaker 5: this very moment, when at last I'd be commissioned to
Speaker 5: construct a substantial lession.
Speaker 6: Won't you be seated? Feel free to smoke? Will you
Speaker 6: be blue water sailing?
Speaker 5: Not exactly, mostly inland waterways.
Speaker 4: You might call it that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you aren't.
Speaker 6: A sleep five three straight rooms brusha folks.
Speaker 4: Show, captain. We don't want to sleep anybody.
Speaker 1: We just want to should fit down a manhole.
Speaker 3: He lives a very vibrant fantasy life and a great.
Speaker 4: Scottish accent too.
Speaker 1: And yeah this is he's still got a little bit
Speaker 1: of his hair unless he's wearing a piece, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a piece. It looks like his real hair.
Speaker 1: And then it does look like he's added a lot
Speaker 1: of gray to the sides and to his mustache to
Speaker 1: add a little bit more of the age to him.
Speaker 1: Like I said, what was he like twenty eighteen, twenty
Speaker 1: eight crazy, and he looks older than Jack Guildford. The
Speaker 1: only person he looks younger than is Walter Brennan.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's amazing, it's kind of funny, but it's
Speaker 3: also sad he could that he could. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: they did have to enhance it a little bit to
Speaker 3: make them look older, but you know you can do
Speaker 3: that with young people, So he doesn't fool anybody. Leonardo DiCaprio, Right,
Speaker 3: if you didn't know how young he was, and you
Speaker 3: just showed this to somebody who had never seen him
Speaker 3: or heard of him before, they would have easily believed
Speaker 3: this was a guy in his fifties at least.
Speaker 1: And then Bob Denver comes back into the story and
Speaker 1: he's got the best job of all. He just has
Speaker 1: to keep the woman in the window busy and that's it.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to get wet. He doesn't have to.
Speaker 1: Oh, trust me, he's getting a wet that's yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, if that's the unrated version, see what happened in
Speaker 4: that room while they're all.
Speaker 1: In the men one night at Imageans.
Speaker 4: We were wondering, what are all of these people living
Speaker 4: in this condemned area, there's all these guys condemned, like
Speaker 4: it's they gotta be tearing it all down. And yet
Speaker 4: there's a couple across the street with a little boy,
Speaker 4: and the father and son think it's a sex orgy
Speaker 4: going on outside their window. It's like, what's going on
Speaker 4: in that part of town?
Speaker 1: I read about it in the magazine.
Speaker 3: She's the artist living in that studio. I get, but
Speaker 3: that you're right, it's all they're in this decrepit back
Speaker 3: alley and there are on a couple of the buildings
Speaker 3: that it's condemned.
Speaker 1: And yet nineteen sixty seven this movie comes, we are
Speaker 1: in the free love era, and yeah, she's definitely embracing that.
Speaker 4: Of course, Jim Hutton character too. At the beginning, as
Speaker 4: you were mentioning with the din Din, I love that
Speaker 4: he's got this beautiful next door neighbor who wants to
Speaker 4: have din Din and she brings him as a beef
Speaker 4: strogan Off or something, and then you see that it's
Speaker 4: just left outside the door.
Speaker 3: Dorothy Provine, who was the woman who were with him
Speaker 3: at the mint and makes him the brownies every day,
Speaker 3: who obviously has feelings for him, and he knows that
Speaker 3: and is doing everything had to avoid getting trapped in
Speaker 3: her web. But I mean, she's a wonderful suite. That's
Speaker 3: not what he's looking for right now. He's looking for
Speaker 3: the wild life, and I think he got all of
Speaker 3: the wildlife he needed in that one.
Speaker 4: He's trying to play that tender trap.
Speaker 1: I'd love to she's got that big sunflower dress on
Speaker 1: and everything. Of course, I was like, wasn't she in
Speaker 1: Please Don't Meet the Daisies? That was such a weird
Speaker 1: TV showers.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know she was in that because
Speaker 3: she was very close friends with Doris Day because they
Speaker 3: were both animal activists.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I'm still kind of hubbing back to,
Speaker 1: not to Dorothy and Provine, but to Jackie Joseph.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jackie Joseph was, Yeah, she was in the Doris
Speaker 3: Day show.
Speaker 4: It doesn't look like Please Don't Eat the Daisies.
Speaker 1: Amazing that she was in one. Was not in one
Speaker 1: of those shows.
Speaker 4: She wasn't Gomer Pyle. Well, of course, what I most
Speaker 4: remember her in was It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Mad World,
Speaker 4: where she plays Milton Burle's wife. I'm sure is a
Speaker 4: Dorothy Provine. Dorothy Provine and I remember as a kid
Speaker 4: having cognitive dissonance because I would watch both movies so much,
Speaker 4: and here's a husband and wife, and yet in the
Speaker 4: other movie they don't know each other, and eventually it
Speaker 4: worked things out. But when you're young, these things matter
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 3: I remember Dorothy Provine, she's like the chief for that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you feel so bad for her at the
Speaker 3: end of It's a mad man. I love that little
Speaker 3: but she's she's on the whole.
Speaker 4: No, she's a pot of money is buried beneath the
Speaker 4: big w and nobody knows what that mean. And then
Speaker 4: she sees these trees that are making a w and
Speaker 4: Spencer Tracy as she didn't know who he is. We
Speaker 4: know he's the cop trying to catch them all. But
Speaker 4: she says, I don't know who you are, but if
Speaker 4: you and I can get that money, then I can
Speaker 4: get away from my awful mother and my awful husband
Speaker 4: and my awful brother. And you feel for her because
Speaker 4: she's much like in it. She's the only decent person.
Speaker 4: She agrees to help. She's really lied to because you know,
Speaker 4: Harry does tell her the truth at a fifty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars when I don't know if he tells her it's
Speaker 4: because of her brownies or not. But he says, I
Speaker 4: just need to get the presses going so I can
Speaker 4: replace that money. And it's only after they're printing all this,
Speaker 4: and I said, wait a minute, this is much more
Speaker 4: than fifty thousand. So I feel for her in that
Speaker 4: regard too. It's like she's just a nice person caught
Speaker 4: up a bunch of scoundrels.
Speaker 3: Well. I felt that that little moment between her and
Speaker 3: Spencer Tracy at.
Speaker 4: The end, it's a mad man, man man.
Speaker 3: It just had such a wonderful feeling to it. Without
Speaker 3: being Madelin or anything. I just I always loved that
Speaker 3: and speaking like you were Tim at the beginning about
Speaker 3: how you had a certain number of movies that you
Speaker 3: felt like you saw over and over and over again
Speaker 3: as a kid. One of the ones that I remember
Speaker 3: seeing more than once as a kid was another movie
Speaker 3: Dorothy pro Vine was in, and that is Good Neighbor
Speaker 3: Sam with Jack Lemon for Sam and Under the Yum
Speaker 3: Yum Tree, The Two Jackmen.
Speaker 4: A lot of Jack Lemon in this podcast today.
Speaker 3: A twist of Lemon, twist.
Speaker 1: Of you guys should start your own show just all
Speaker 1: about Jack Lemon Films. You'd be here for quite a
Speaker 1: few years.
Speaker 4: But no Walter Brennan. But he just say Walter Brennan too.
Speaker 4: He's often too much over the top, but he's very
Speaker 4: good in this was Pops and with his love for
Speaker 4: his eagle, the beagle. Now the beagle was Inky, but
Speaker 4: it was played by Peanuts if I recall correctly.
Speaker 1: Well, they had to change the name because some people
Speaker 1: had a peanut allergy.
Speaker 4: Oh geez, holy cow.
Speaker 1: And then Inky just makes sense because he's a former printer.
Speaker 4: And Ikey like Peanuts, like she really was about to
Speaker 4: give birth at any moment. That was quite some acting
Speaker 4: on her part.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, her teats were very small enough.
Speaker 4: Birth she was.
Speaker 3: She was a porker too.
Speaker 4: She's run around you know. The mint there.
Speaker 1: Given some of the best performance, especially running away from
Speaker 1: Milton Burle.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We really get into a very French farce moment with that,
Speaker 1: with the sneaking from doorway to doorway and you know
Speaker 1: who's coming out which doorway and who's going in the
Speaker 1: other one. I mean, I've seen that on Scooby.
Speaker 3: Dooe, going back and forth. You see the dog the
Speaker 3: guard in Milton Burle.
Speaker 4: As dressed up as George Washington for even the suspending ones.
Speaker 4: Disbelieve that was a bit much.
Speaker 1: I just love that though. I love the soul. Like
Speaker 1: you mentioned before, we have to go a night early
Speaker 1: because they're going to automate everything, so everybody stop what
Speaker 1: you're doing. So everybody's in a costume of some sort,
Speaker 1: with maybe the exception of Hutton and then even Gilford's
Speaker 1: got his YMCA outfit on. But then you know she's
Speaker 1: in the two to two and Milton Burl's and the
Speaker 1: amazing Washington get up. Of course, as I'm seeing this,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, here's the poster image of Washington
Speaker 1: crossing the Delaware with Milton Burle as Washington and having
Speaker 1: this tiny little boat that they're crossing through the sewers.
Speaker 1: It really worked for me, and that poster art is fantastic.
Speaker 3: Was there the famous mad artist?
Speaker 1: It had to have been that looks so much like
Speaker 1: his style?
Speaker 4: He Jack Davis, Jack Davis on my walls here, I've
Speaker 4: got two of the posters that he did for Mad Mad,
Speaker 4: Mad Mad World. I think if it wasn't him, it
Speaker 4: was someone like him. Would just loved being able to
Speaker 4: do these caricatures that people would have known at the time.
Speaker 3: Did More Drucker do a lot of those two I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember who did The Long Goodbye, because
Speaker 1: that poster was the second poster that they did. They
Speaker 1: actually re released The Long Goodbye with a new poster
Speaker 1: that was all Mad magazine style, with even the overlapping
Speaker 1: word bubbles, those square word bubbles that they would use,
Speaker 1: and that was what really helped sell that film, to
Speaker 1: show that it was much more comic than this kind
Speaker 1: of neo noir thing that they were doing with the
Speaker 1: first poster with Ellie Gould and his cat.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I saw that, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is an odd movie.
Speaker 4: No, yes, I hated it the first time I saw
Speaker 4: it and out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly films totally. The first time I saw it,
Speaker 3: I didn't like it, and then went like ten years
Speaker 3: and saw it again and.
Speaker 4: Then I loved it.
Speaker 3: So I think I was probably just too young the
Speaker 3: first time I saw it.
Speaker 1: As they break into the mint, you know, you mentioned
Speaker 1: the orgy scene before the people up on the window
Speaker 1: sill looking down.
Speaker 4: The unrated version has that, but we're not talking about
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that scene, plus then what happens with Bob
Speaker 1: Denver later on. We leave that to the mind, but
Speaker 1: I love the whole thing of them breaking in and
Speaker 1: having to go through these steps like the electronic eye.
Speaker 1: The electronic eye bet with her. That is so good.
Speaker 4: N seven.
Speaker 1: As soon as they started going under that eye, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh no, they gonna get around this. And
Speaker 1: then when these throw on her stomach to avoid her
Speaker 1: boobs triggering it, and then I'm like, oh no, that
Speaker 1: freaking skirt that too too.
Speaker 3: She's in what's gonna right exactly.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of good moments in this film.
Speaker 1: I really have to thank you guys for turning me
Speaker 1: on to this because even those people looking at the
Speaker 1: quote unquote orgy love when the kids sticks his head
Speaker 1: out of his looks like they're having an orgy.
Speaker 4: It reminded me of the Producers where they had the
Speaker 4: woman outside the building with the Nazi saying I'm not
Speaker 4: a concierge. Just these little bits that add so much
Speaker 4: to these films.
Speaker 3: So the movie poster for Who's Minding the Mint was
Speaker 3: designed by Jack Ricard, No, not the more well known
Speaker 3: Frank Frizetta or Jack Davis, as some mistakingly believe. Ricard
Speaker 3: was an artist known for his work in Mad magazine
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Did you guys know that there was a Dell comic
Speaker 1: that was based on this movie?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, They were doing a whole series of twelve cent
Speaker 1: comic books to tie in with movies, and this was
Speaker 1: one of those.
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, I want that, Yeah, especially if it's twelve cents.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's twelve cents anymore.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, sure, won't be twelve cents now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I did get a copy of that,
Speaker 1: so I was able to all Right, it's a CBR
Speaker 1: file and those are difficult to read. But if I
Speaker 1: change it to a ZIP file. Here's a little hint
Speaker 1: for you comic readers out there. If you change it
Speaker 1: to a ZIP then you can open it up as
Speaker 1: a ZIP file. It is actually drawn out. There's one
Speaker 1: on Etsy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because the cover is just not a drawing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Them at the Mint and Samson Link was the guy's name. Okay,
Speaker 1: and they even have their little numbers on because one's
Speaker 1: twenty two, one's twenty three, wins twenty four. This looks
Speaker 1: pretty legit. And then a nice ad for a Daisy
Speaker 1: bb gun. On the back cover, they.
Speaker 4: Have the one with the guy kicking sand and Charles Atlas. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 4: you know we haven't talked about one last major cast member,
Speaker 4: who if has been on your show, the great Jamie Farrm.
Speaker 4: You mentioned Mash earlier, but I think that if I
Speaker 4: recall Craig, I love that episode too you talked about,
Speaker 4: but that might have been before Clinger came on.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. For season three, episode eleven, I looked
Speaker 1: it up so I could actually go back and watch
Speaker 1: it and he Clinger. Yep, he would have been perfect
Speaker 1: for that, and I think I see a picture of
Speaker 1: him in this right now. After they try unsuccessfully to
Speaker 1: persuade Klinger to have one of his relatives ship the
Speaker 1: order because he's right there in Toledo and he probably
Speaker 1: has relatives over there, Trapper remembers a woman he wants
Speaker 1: knew in Chicago. He calls her and persuades her to
Speaker 1: pick up the order and put it on a plane
Speaker 1: labeled as medical supplies bound for South Korea.
Speaker 4: I remember it well, and I think I enjoyed it
Speaker 4: the first time I saw it because it did remind
Speaker 4: me of who's my ding to mint.
Speaker 1: I can see that, and then yeah, Jamie Farren here
Speaker 1: with very little dialogue and even less dialogue in English,
Speaker 1: and I love to see those Lemonese guy and Joey Bishop,
Speaker 1: obviously Jewish, just going back and forth like they're native Italians.
Speaker 3: I used to write for a Chicago magazine called Fra Noi.
Speaker 3: It was an Italian American magazine. It's still around. I
Speaker 3: still write for them every once in a while. But
Speaker 3: years ago I wrote a piece for Mother's Day about
Speaker 3: all the Italian American mothers on television over the years.
Speaker 4: The editor wanted me to do one for Father's Day.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think, you know, and I didn't
Speaker 3: want to just do negative people like Frank Barone and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I wanted to find someone positive, and
Speaker 3: I said, you know, for me as a little kid,
Speaker 3: although I wasn't consciously aware at the father that seemed
Speaker 3: to me to be the first Italian father I saw
Speaker 3: on a television show was actually Damn Williams of The
Speaker 3: Danny Thomas Show, who of course was Lebanese and who
Speaker 3: help ours career because they were both from Toledo. They
Speaker 3: were both Lebanese. He said his character on Make Room
Speaker 3: for Daddy was make an Italian father, because in that
Speaker 3: time in the fifties, remember you, Yeah, Ward Cleveland, Ozzie Nelson,
Speaker 3: Ozzie Nelson, Robert Young and father knows Best. So you
Speaker 3: had all these real waspy, milk toast kind of guys
Speaker 3: who were these armchair philosophers. And then you had Danny Williams,
Speaker 3: who would yell and scream at his kids at the
Speaker 3: same time he would hug and kiss them. He'd kissed
Speaker 3: his son Rusty. I don't think you ever saw Ward
Speaker 3: kiss the beaver. It's a family podcast, out of ease.
Speaker 3: But as an Italian American kid, you know, our fathers
Speaker 3: kissed us, We kissed our uncles. It was very common
Speaker 3: for I like that that he was to me like
Speaker 3: the first Italian American father. So yeah, you can look
Speaker 3: at Jamie Foarr. He certainly had the nose to be
Speaker 3: an Italian as well as did Danny Thomas.
Speaker 4: They give him kudos for his enthusiasm. He throws himself
Speaker 4: into that role.
Speaker 3: And of course, as Tim can tell you, I have
Speaker 3: a deep personal connection. I got on a question and
Speaker 3: answer episode of Gilbert Godfried's Amazing Colossal podcast and Tim.
Speaker 3: Do you remember it had to be Gil. I don't
Speaker 3: know who else would have said. Yeah, gil Gil for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, was convinced that I sounded like Jamie Farr.
Speaker 3: No one had ever told me that before. I've been
Speaker 3: on the radio for twenty five years here in Rochester,
Speaker 3: no one has ever said that. But Gilbert Godfried for
Speaker 3: some reason put me together under the same category for
Speaker 3: vocal stylings as Jamie Foss.
Speaker 4: So I wore that as a badge of honor.
Speaker 1: Can you say something about the mud No.
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything about them.
Speaker 4: I knew who the mud Hens are.
Speaker 3: I mean I saw them play for many years here
Speaker 3: in Rochester because they were in our league, the same
Speaker 3: league with the Rochester Red Wings the Toledo.
Speaker 4: Now Jamie Fowre had also been a guest on the
Speaker 4: Gilbert Godfrey Amazing Colossal podcast, and he told an interesting story.
Speaker 4: He didn't unlike many of the guests, he didn't like
Speaker 4: to bad mouth people. And of course they were trying
Speaker 4: to get into bad mouth Joey Bishop in particular, and
Speaker 4: he said end because he's Joey Bishop's brother. Oh cousin,
Speaker 4: that's right, but he doesn't speak English, and so he
Speaker 4: mistakenly thinks that the garbage collectors are the police, and
Speaker 4: he runs in and all the characters are together, and
Speaker 4: he said, I had to do it in one take.
Speaker 10: And how he wanted me to come into the room
Speaker 10: and he was going to have the camera just follow
Speaker 10: me from one person to the to to explain in
Speaker 10: Italian that the money has gone off, you know, and
Speaker 10: I need somebody. And Joey, of course is my cousin.
Speaker 10: He's the one that brings me into the the caper.
Speaker 10: And Joey's not in the room at the time. He's
Speaker 10: trying to get some ink off of his face that
Speaker 10: he had gotten when they were trying to get print
Speaker 10: money in the mint. And so I had to go
Speaker 10: to Victor Bono, Walter Brennan, Dorothy Provine, Jack Guilford, Milton
Speaker 10: Burrell and everybody explaining to him, and finally come out,
Speaker 10: Joey comes out, and I finally I have one line
Speaker 10: to Joey, and Joey comes to me actually, and he
Speaker 10: comes to me and I have ready to give my
Speaker 10: one line now because we're only doing this in one take.
Speaker 10: We're not doing any cover shots at all, and Joey
Speaker 10: stops the thing he says, hey, you're standing in my
Speaker 10: key light. So and now I have to do the
Speaker 10: whole thing all over again, going to everybody, everybody again,
Speaker 10: and we get to Joey. We come out to do
Speaker 10: the thing, and again he stops the camera. All I
Speaker 10: had was one line to him, creve hold up, so
Speaker 10: let's see. Yeah, and he stops it again. He was
Speaker 10: doing it on purpose. And finally Howie Moore said, you know, Joey,
Speaker 10: you're not working with the rat pack, and he says,
Speaker 10: the next one I'm gonna print.
Speaker 3: Don't you dare?
Speaker 4: Don't you dare? Cut this.
Speaker 10: So we got to the thing and I made sure
Speaker 10: that nobody was in anybody's key light or anything else,
Speaker 10: and finally got the line out. But he really wasn't
Speaker 10: very nice at that point. That those are got to
Speaker 10: rest his soul.
Speaker 4: He passed on.
Speaker 10: But you know, those are cheap tricks that you do
Speaker 10: in the business when you don't care for somebody and
Speaker 10: you pull those those stunts on people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of comparisons between this movie and
Speaker 1: Ocean's eleven, the original Oceans eleven, which I still haven't watched,
Speaker 1: even though I like the Soderbergh Ocean's eleven a lot,
Speaker 1: not twelve, not thirteen. I'm okay with eight about eleven.
Speaker 1: I like a lot.
Speaker 4: I like the eleven. The Soderbergh the original one not
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the original Oceans eleven is not a great movie.
Speaker 3: The best part about it is Dean and Sammy's songs
Speaker 3: and the end and Angie Dickenson wow, oh yeah, and
Speaker 3: Antie Dickinson. But no Ocean of the original Oceans eleven
Speaker 3: is the best part of the whole story. And in
Speaker 3: that way, yes, there's similarities to this one, absolutely well.
Speaker 4: And it's similar also to Mad Mad, Mad World in
Speaker 4: a sense that here you have these elaborate plots. They
Speaker 4: look like something who's gonna send them awry, but then
Speaker 4: they succeed, they get the money, but then at all
Speaker 4: three movies they lose the money. So it's almost the
Speaker 4: remains of what was left of the Hollywood code. I
Speaker 4: guess the crime doesn't pay. We can't let them get
Speaker 4: away with it. But if we could jump to the
Speaker 4: end of Who's Minding the Mint? I love the last
Speaker 4: scene during the credits, because all of the money that
Speaker 4: was stolen gets taken by the garbage men who don't
Speaker 4: know that these boxes are filled with the dollars and
Speaker 4: they dump it into the river. And then the last
Speaker 4: scene you see the characters all in scuba gear, including Inky.
Speaker 1: That is one hell of a way to end this movie,
Speaker 1: to have your credit roll call being with them wearing
Speaker 1: these scuba masks. And of course you know they're nowhere
Speaker 1: near water at all.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to simulate them being underwater. So I said
Speaker 3: to Tim, why are they all taking the thing, the
Speaker 3: mask out of their mouth.
Speaker 1: So we can see their faces a little bit?
Speaker 3: Bactly are they committing mass suicide because they can't find
Speaker 3: the money.
Speaker 4: I can't remember if Victor Bono has his pipe in
Speaker 4: his mouth when he yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's what broke the illusion for me, because
Speaker 1: otherwise I bought hook, limb and sinker pun intended well.
Speaker 4: And Victor does a great job earlier after his boat
Speaker 4: sinks dutiful, so he's got to go get another boat,
Speaker 4: and he's doing a backstroke. I mean, that's not a
Speaker 4: stunt actor. That's Victor himself.
Speaker 1: And holding aloft that American flag for fear of getting
Speaker 1: it wet.
Speaker 4: Too, very patriotic.
Speaker 3: I thought that little with Buono going to get another boat.
Speaker 3: I kind of liked how earnest he was about his
Speaker 3: responsibility to these people. It wasn't just the money, it
Speaker 3: was also you know, like Tim Smike, he just loved
Speaker 3: anything to do with the sea or with boating or whatever.
Speaker 3: He took it very, very seriously. And as soon as
Speaker 3: that boat fell at part, he's like, oh, I gotta
Speaker 3: go and get something, figure out something. I think I
Speaker 3: read in the trivia on IMDb. Then when we see
Speaker 3: him coming back with presumably all the boats that he
Speaker 3: had stolen from the kiddie park ride that he worked on,
Speaker 3: I think they said we see him coming in with
Speaker 3: four boat and then them going back out with six
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: Well, these nitpicks, jeez.
Speaker 4: They planned this out so well.
Speaker 3: But obviously they didn't plan it out so well because
Speaker 3: even if that boat hadn't fallen apart with just them
Speaker 3: in it, which obviously it was going to because there
Speaker 3: were too many of them, how did they think it
Speaker 3: was gonna stay together when they had the I mean,
Speaker 3: you're printing like six million dollars and one hundred dollar bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the weight of that money, even as how ane
Speaker 1: hundred dollar bills would have been way too much. And
Speaker 1: I just kept thinking about that while they were printing it.
Speaker 1: I was like, how are you guys going to carry
Speaker 1: this thing out?
Speaker 3: I said that to Tam while we're watching them. I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's so heavy. That is really really, really and plus
Speaker 3: you know, God forbid you get it any water on it.
Speaker 4: Now it's going to really be Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess it just dries instantaneously too. But we can't
Speaker 1: pick a partible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this film start picking that thread, it all falls
Speaker 4: to be. You know. The Captain reminded me. We talked
Speaker 4: earlier about Robert Aldrich and filmed The Flight of the Phoenix.
Speaker 4: As you remember that, the Hardy Krueger character who has
Speaker 4: this elaborate plan for how they're gonna rebuild the plane,
Speaker 4: and then it turns out all these built our model planes.
Speaker 4: So here you got the Captain. It's like, you know,
Speaker 4: he's finally got this chance to you know, he's asking
Speaker 4: about how big of a boat and then when they
Speaker 4: tell we just need something to fit in the sewers, okay,
Speaker 4: but he seems to be one of the few characters
Speaker 4: who would have done this for nothing, just because it
Speaker 4: appealed to his love that could finally do something with boats.
Speaker 1: And despite Inky leaving the room and all of the
Speaker 1: shenanigans going on with Milton Burn and then Jim Hutton
Speaker 1: having to come after him, things are going okay for
Speaker 1: a point until I don't remember if it's Inky starts
Speaker 1: to have babies, and then things just kind of blow
Speaker 1: up from there because then we've got the ink. Joey
Speaker 1: Bishop fucks around with the machine, he gets a whole
Speaker 1: thing of ink in his face, Jim falls in the machine,
Speaker 1: he gets his shirt ripped off and has money being
Speaker 1: printed up on his shirt instead. It's just everything starts
Speaker 1: to go to hell pretty darn quickly, and yet they
Speaker 1: make it out. They make it out okay with nobody
Speaker 1: catching them, and it's really just the whole misunderstanding of
Speaker 1: the garbage men that really fucks these guys over. I
Speaker 1: was surprised that there's chase scene in the middle of this, though.
Speaker 1: They're chasing each other because they're trying to get away
Speaker 1: from that revival van, which I think if they had
Speaker 1: just sat a little differently, they probably could have just
Speaker 1: all sat in like the two vehicles that they had,
Speaker 1: the ice cream truck and the open jeep that they have.
Speaker 3: I don't remember now, why they had that but didn't
Speaker 3: have to do again with what we were talking about
Speaker 3: earlier because the plans got changed and they had to
Speaker 3: all just come that night, so they had to come
Speaker 3: with what they had. In fact, we talked about that earlier.
Speaker 3: How basically almost all of them other than hunt And
Speaker 3: are costumed in one way or another. Of course, Bob
Speaker 3: Denver was costumed to begin with, as was Victor Bono
Speaker 3: ice cream Man, as was Victor Buono, but then you
Speaker 3: get everybody else. Tim kind of likened it to that
Speaker 3: Twilight Zone episode of the.
Speaker 1: In the six characters in search of an up.
Speaker 4: He's right, exactly the ball.
Speaker 3: We had a Scotsman in both cases, Tim Soldier, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think why they ended up that van, which was
Speaker 3: kind of funny.
Speaker 4: We loved that. Shall we get into Auto pointed I
Speaker 4: was one of john Ford's favorite tunes. Apparently a lot
Speaker 4: of john Ford movies.
Speaker 1: That would have been a perfect time for the director
Speaker 1: to do z audio commentary and have him be the
Speaker 1: one giving the sermon.
Speaker 3: It's a Lollo Shiffer in score, and Tim correctly pointed
Speaker 3: out that you can hear shades of the Mission Impossible
Speaker 3: theme at the beginning of it, and of course Missing
Speaker 3: Impossible I think went on the air the next year.
Speaker 3: I liked the score of this as well.
Speaker 4: I thought it was really good for me.
Speaker 3: Something that's kind of important for conn added if you
Speaker 3: have a great score that fits with the movie, well
Speaker 3: then it's just gravy.
Speaker 4: And this was the worst thing in comedy movies is
Speaker 4: when they add a silly score or when they you know,
Speaker 4: speed things up. But we don't need that. It's much
Speaker 4: better to have the jazzy score or mad mad Mad
Speaker 4: Mad world that's got a great score too. Oh, I
Speaker 4: love this score on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really surprising that there is the inevitable breakup
Speaker 1: between Jim and his love interest, but it takes less
Speaker 1: than ten minutes for them to come back together. Usually
Speaker 1: it's the entire third act or the beginning of the
Speaker 1: third act there's some sort of misunderstanding and then they
Speaker 1: come back together right towards the end and embrace and
Speaker 1: all that. But no, it's just ten minutes. He finally
Speaker 1: gets confronted about all the money they lose, the money,
Speaker 1: they go after the money, don't get the money back,
Speaker 1: and then he's about to go in and turn himself in,
Speaker 1: which is surprising, and then they all show up with
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars that had been stuffed into Inky's box
Speaker 1: while she was giving birth. We don't want to think
Speaker 1: about what else is on that money.
Speaker 4: I think that is a good point. But it's nice
Speaker 4: to see all of the characters. Jim Hutton is surprised
Speaker 4: that they're giving up this money, and they're all like
Speaker 4: waving giving him a thumbs up.
Speaker 1: It's nobody was more surprised than me. And I kept
Speaker 1: waiting for a punchline for that. I kept waiting for
Speaker 1: them to say, Okay, good thing, we got all the
Speaker 1: rest of the money back, or something not necessarily the
Speaker 1: deep sea diving thing that they're doing. But I just
Speaker 1: thought there would be some sort of Milton Burle punchline
Speaker 1: there to be like do you think he knows it's
Speaker 1: counterfeit or something like that. Like I was waiting for
Speaker 1: some punchline.
Speaker 3: The scuba diving scene at the credits as the punch punchline,
Speaker 3: because because, like Tim said, such a it's really sweet
Speaker 3: because these guys like Evan, you know, like you always
Speaker 3: see in these movies, had gotten carried away with their greed.
Speaker 4: But then at the.
Speaker 3: End, you know, they had forged some kind of camaraderie
Speaker 3: with this guy, and they felt bad that he was
Speaker 3: going to be in trouble and go to jail.
Speaker 4: For really that was that.
Speaker 3: Was intentional, and they'd come together and say, here we
Speaker 3: found this, we forgot we had this fifty thousand youd
Speaker 3: take it And you're thinking, oh my god, that's so
Speaker 3: nan Yeah. Then for me at least, the punchline was
Speaker 3: they're not giving up though, because they're going and looking
Speaker 3: for that. They're not going to just let it go.
Speaker 1: When I just verified Victor does not have his pipe
Speaker 1: at the end, but Milton Borl does have his cigar.
Speaker 3: Not going to go without that. The guy Tim You
Speaker 3: might cut out for a minute before. What is that
Speaker 3: famous Ford song that we were talking about?
Speaker 4: Is it Shall we Gather at the River?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: That's it, Shall we Gather at the River? That's what
Speaker 3: it was, Yeah, because that was one of Ford's favorites.
Speaker 4: I bet you he.
Speaker 3: Uses that in at least half a dozen films.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll credit Howard Morris with knowing that, and watch
Speaker 4: the Jock Ford.
Speaker 1: And then to tie things up at the very end
Speaker 1: when she is there to give back the money, Pop
Speaker 1: comes up and all this, and she says, oh, let's
Speaker 1: have dinner, and he goes dinner, and we realize the
Speaker 1: implications of what dinner is going to mean for him
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life, and it's finally time
Speaker 1: to settle down and put down some roots with this
Speaker 1: wonderful woman with horrible brownies.
Speaker 3: Technically speaking, it was his playboy ways, because remember he
Speaker 3: comes in with the sexy neighbor and he's so busy
Speaker 3: paying attention to her that when he's putting the brownies
Speaker 3: down the disposal, he doesn't even notice that the money's there.
Speaker 3: That was of the beginning of his problem. So better
Speaker 3: you should have the domestic bliss problems with Verna than
Speaker 3: all these other headaches.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I blame Verna for not being a
Speaker 1: better cook. I think it's really a woman's responsibility to
Speaker 1: learn how to cook and plays a man, and by
Speaker 1: her failing in those motherly and wifely duties, she really
Speaker 1: is the one that screwed up this whole thing.
Speaker 3: Those times I'm glad I'm on Zoom with you and
Speaker 3: not sitting next to.
Speaker 1: You, punch me in the.
Speaker 3: Mouth, nokening lightening my comments.
Speaker 1: She should have been a better tread wife, is what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: If you're going to go for that traditional ideal, technically
Speaker 3: you should blame Verna's mother then, because in those days
Speaker 3: the daughters learned how to cook from their mothers, so
Speaker 3: maybe her mother was a terrible cook.
Speaker 4: Of course, Berna thought her brownies are great because she
Speaker 4: thinks he's eating them all the time. No, he's Cassidy
Speaker 4: throwing him out or giving him the security guards who
Speaker 4: will not take him a second tick.
Speaker 3: Once is enough, despite Jacqueline Suzanne.
Speaker 4: Because I was thinking out and our watching it that
Speaker 4: that Top Copy had just been year or so earlier,
Speaker 4: which has similar you know, a group of disparate characters
Speaker 4: come together to perform a robbery and then things start
Speaker 4: to go awry. So I don't know if that was
Speaker 4: deliberate or coincidental, but I'm sure when I saw Who's
Speaker 4: Minding the Men long long ago, I didn't know that
Speaker 4: other film or wouldn't have made that connection.
Speaker 1: It's funny I grew up on Top Copy and not
Speaker 1: this film.
Speaker 4: I love Peter houstonof so Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then for a little while I was like Top Copy,
Speaker 1: we're fife these but very different. One absolute classic. The
Speaker 1: other one, okay, it's good for a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 4: Never on a Sunday.
Speaker 3: Oh but you know, there are those movies. They're a
Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon movie or a late Saturday night movie, you know,
Speaker 3: and of course it has everything to do with what
Speaker 3: you remember from your childhood and stuff. But they're not
Speaker 3: great movies. Well, Tim and I used the phrase when
Speaker 3: we're watching this this week. They're comfort movies, you know,
Speaker 3: in one way or another.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, and a lot of them. Of course, they
Speaker 4: have lines that you then use. I remember the out
Speaker 4: of Counters with Sandy. Dennis keeps saying tobout, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: we would use that my father and mother and I
Speaker 4: when things are going wrong. And do you get the references?
Speaker 4: Or there's countless ones and the producers but one white
Speaker 4: white is the color of our carpets. It's these just
Speaker 4: silly lines that do you use, almost like to connect
Speaker 4: with people obviously wouldn't get the reference if they didn't
Speaker 4: know the movies.
Speaker 3: Well, Tim and I still regularly will.
Speaker 4: He just did it to me this week.
Speaker 3: I don't remember who it was, but he'll text me
Speaker 3: and they'll say he's still, which of course is from
Speaker 3: the Godfather when Solozzo unsuccessfully tries to take the Godfather
Speaker 3: out at the beginning of the meeting and he comes
Speaker 3: back to the meeting with them and he's still alive.
Speaker 3: You know, that's the stuff that sticks with you, man.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a.
Speaker 4: Time, as going back to the early days in nineteen
Speaker 4: sixties and seventies, when the same movie would be shown
Speaker 4: like five days a week because I got four point thirty,
Speaker 4: and that was before we had videotapes or other ways
Speaker 4: to kind of preserve them. But they were preserved in
Speaker 4: my memory. I mean, I knew these movies I mentioned
Speaker 4: earlier by heart because I just saw them all the time.
Speaker 4: And Otto mentioned The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption. There's
Speaker 4: certain kind of movies that you just see them, even
Speaker 4: if they're already in the middle when you turn the
Speaker 4: TV on, You'll just watch them. You know everything about them.
Speaker 4: But they're well made, you know. In the case of
Speaker 4: the ones I mentioned earlier, I don't think I wouldn't
Speaker 4: make the case that Who's Minding the Mint should be
Speaker 4: on the one hundred Greatest Movies of All Time, But
Speaker 4: it's certainly one of my ten most favorite movies, and
Speaker 4: you know, everyone has their own choices such matters, but
Speaker 4: in a way, it's like you can't even argue because
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, arguing whose baby is prettiest. I
Speaker 4: love this movie, and I'm very grateful thanks to our
Speaker 4: tribute to Victor Blono that we got to revisit it again.
Speaker 4: And I'm not going to wait another thirty years or
Speaker 4: so before I watch it the next time.
Speaker 1: Nor should you, because it is It's a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: and I'm really glad that you guys turned me onto
Speaker 1: this movie. I feel better for having watched it.
Speaker 3: You are better for having watched it, Mike.
Speaker 4: Well, as we finish our month long tribute to Victor Blono,
Speaker 4: it was nice to end on a comedic note, and
Speaker 4: some of the other movies we watched were pretty disturbing.
Speaker 4: I'm glad we chose this one to end the month with.
Speaker 3: And as I think we said last week, all three
Speaker 3: of those first movies we watched work of you know,
Speaker 3: creepy movies. And if Victor Blono is remembered at all
Speaker 3: by anybody outside this circle of three, I think it
Speaker 3: is primarily for his comedic roles more than anything else.
Speaker 3: He really was a great comedic actor. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: he could do drama without any problem. But I'm one
Speaker 3: of those people who believe comedians can do drama successfully,
Speaker 3: probably more not than a great you know, tragedian what's
Speaker 3: the word, can do comedy, you know, zezy comedy as
Speaker 3: hard as what was his name?
Speaker 4: Edmund?
Speaker 3: Something said, who's the guy that played Sam? It's a
Speaker 3: miracle on thirty fourth Street when.
Speaker 4: Gwen, yes, Edmund. Gwen was apparently the guy.
Speaker 3: Somebody went to see him when he was on his
Speaker 3: debt and he said, they said, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: And he said, dying is easy, comedy is hard. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know that's been attributed to many, many, many people.
Speaker 4: I think Aristophani said it first. Victor brought us a
Speaker 4: lot of joy, and it's been a lot of on
Speaker 4: paying tribute to his memory. I gotta miss this. We
Speaker 4: might have to do an all Victor Blono podcast, All Victor,
Speaker 4: all the Time.
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Speaker 1: And sorry, We'll be back next week to kick off
Speaker 1: our check Timber Extravaganza with Cozy DNS. Until then, I
Speaker 1: want to thank my co host for this month, Otto
Speaker 1: and tim So Otto. What is keeping me busy?
Speaker 4: Sir well?
Speaker 3: I just discovered last night on Amazon McFarland has my
Speaker 3: new baseball book up there for pre order, so they're
Speaker 3: saying it will be available in the end of August,
Speaker 3: which is August twenty twenty five, So looking forward to
Speaker 3: that and just get to and write.
Speaker 1: Fantastic and Tim, how about yourself.
Speaker 4: I'm going to help Auto promote his book when it
Speaker 4: comes out. So we need to go to the Baseball
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. It's been a long time. We give
Speaker 4: our tribute to Abbot and Costello when we get there.
Speaker 3: Well, you usually when I do a podcast with Mike,
Speaker 3: I wear my Jackson Booth T shirt, but today I
Speaker 3: have to wear my Pirates thirty nine T shirt because
Speaker 3: just today, long overdue, Dave Parker was inducted into the
Speaker 3: Baseball Hall of Fame. And of course, as always, the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame dragged their feet and waited about twenty
Speaker 3: five years too long. So at least Dave got to
Speaker 3: know that he was going to go in, but he
Speaker 3: didn't live to see it because he died about three
Speaker 3: weeks ago because he had been very sick with Parkinson's disease.
Speaker 3: Always kind of made me mad because I thought he
Speaker 3: should have been in many, many years ago. But again,
Speaker 3: you go back to those things that meant so much
Speaker 3: to you as a kid. The nineteen seventy nine Pirates
Speaker 3: we are Family Sister Sledge was their theme song. We
Speaker 3: are family. I know you two don't care anything about sports.
Speaker 3: I know you come from a big sports town, Mike.
Speaker 1: It was very big in nineteen thirty three.
Speaker 3: Come on, the Vigers have won of World Series more
Speaker 3: recently than the Pirate I.
Speaker 1: Was watching in eighty four, so I definitely saw that
Speaker 1: as the eighty four Tigers. Thanks again, folks for being
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Speaker 6: My name is Victor Blano and I'm fat I've always
Speaker 6: been fat. I was a fat baby, the fat boy.
Speaker 6: Now I'm a fat man. My acquaintances seldom used the
Speaker 6: word fat in my presence. They feel that it would
Speaker 6: be as unkind as using the word drunk in the
Speaker 6: presence of an alcoholic, and so they use other words plump, stout, chubby,
Speaker 6: big boom. For a long time they said it was
Speaker 6: baby fat and would burn off sometime an adolescence. But
Speaker 6: along about my thirtieth birthday, that particular theory bit the
Speaker 6: dust because it was evident that it had not burned
Speaker 6: off and was not about to burn off, and that
Speaker 6: any attempt to burn it off would constitute a public
Speaker 6: fire hazard. I was happy to see that particularly adolescence
Speaker 6: theory die. Anyway, the age of thirty, there's nothing more
Speaker 6: unsettling than the thought of a delayed attack of puberty.
Speaker 6: I'm resigned being fat, and I wish people would stop
Speaker 6: using euphemisms because I'm fat. I'm fat, That's all there
Speaker 6: is to that.
Speaker 4: You might think it.
Speaker 6: Etiquette to say that I am heavy, set a just
Speaker 6: big bone. You want to bet I'm fat, I'm fat,
Speaker 6: I'm fat, portly, chubby, plump, and stout. Everyone's a diplomat.
Speaker 6: Why not let it all hang out and go ahead
Speaker 6: and call me fat? So please don't think you're being
Speaker 6: kind by pretending to be blind. Just take a look
Speaker 6: at my physique. There's only one word, fat, and I'm
Speaker 6: not really unhappy being fat. There are times when it's inconvenient,
Speaker 6: such is what I'm trying to ladle myself into a
Speaker 6: theater seat, or trying to get all of me through
Speaker 6: a turnstile at one pass, or calling the lobby to
Speaker 6: tell them that the bed has broken again. I'm fat.
Speaker 6: It would be untruthful to deny it. It would also
Speaker 6: be impossible because my failing is my flag.
Speaker 1: Some men can sin and conceal.
Speaker 6: It they're bandits, but no one gets wise. When I sin,
Speaker 6: my seams will reveal it. My crime is proclaimed by
Speaker 6: my size. Some folks are awful and lawful. They're loaded
Speaker 6: with loot, but who'd know it. I try to sneak
Speaker 6: in a waffle, and five minutes later I show it.
Speaker 6: The fella who sells marijuana can walk down the street
Speaker 6: like a saint, and his sister may Seema Madonna, the
Speaker 6: vice squad can prove that she ain't. Since pounds are
Speaker 6: like crimes, they can nail me on well over three
Speaker 6: hundred counts and try me for each pound and jail me.
Speaker 6: I hope I'm not fined by the ounce. I'm guilty
Speaker 6: of imperfect diet. My weight shows I'm pizza pie prone.
Speaker 6: I know it's no good to deny it. Now, who
Speaker 6: wants to cast the first stove for to be a
Speaker 6: bit more blunt? Although my belt may not be swelt,
Speaker 6: I've never felt disgusted. The kind of part that I
Speaker 6: have got will never get me busted.
Speaker 4: And sat and.
Speaker 3: Ing and sensing such.
Speaker 5: You know
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