WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.359 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It 2 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:17.519 is episode what one hundred and one? 3 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:21.800 Whoa one on one done? 4 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:25.800 We would crumble on our one hundredth episode and the. 5 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.879 Mike was doing voices back in the forties and they 6 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:34.000 thought that would bring us down. Mary was talking about 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:37.000 Nixon way too much in the sixties. Dan had his 8 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:39.240 Vince McMahon fate. Well, he still likes Vince McMahon, but 9 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:41.880 we just don't talk about it as much. True. So 10 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:44.840 here we are episode one oh one. I'm Mike Mahari. 11 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:46.560 That's Mary Kish. Hello. 12 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.439 We almost we did almost break up on episode one hundred. 13 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:54.200 I think that was probably one of the most intense conversations. 14 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.000 But people liked it. 15 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:57.240 I think people liked it. 16 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:01.759 I had a second wave of being annoyed because I 17 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.040 forgot because I was probably several drinks deep by the 18 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.359 point this happened, so I forgot it happened. But I 19 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.760 saw someone be like, Wow, I can't believe Mary was 20 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.000 arguing Diablo too is more influential than Mario sixty four. 21 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.879 And I saw that comment, and I'm like, what about 22 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.000 a comment about our own podcast? 23 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.319 I forgot about it, got mad about again. You made 24 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:21.519 a noise I've never heard you make. When she said that, 25 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:27.319 you did like that point where it was just being yeah, 26 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:30.799 it did okay, Mary, Like I I think someone can 27 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.560 easily like Diablo too more than Mario and it can 28 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.560 be more important in their life. But like, yeah, I 29 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.400 think Mary was just trying to she'ld be in a state 30 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:38.799 on you. 31 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:39.439 At that point. 32 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:42.079 I just didn't have much to work with. But I 33 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.439 know that Diablo two is really important to me, so 34 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:47.959 I was like, I think it is more influential. And 35 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:50.599 then I think what I said something was like, you know, 36 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.799 I made the assumption that how I feel is probably 37 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.079 how everyone else feels, and it should win. But I 38 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.719 did lose that battle. I think the only thing that 39 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:03.920 was really valuable was when the Witch a three. 40 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:06.519 One in the past episode. 41 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:10.240 In the past episodes, the important thing is big personal news. 42 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.840 You remember my tea kettle in the background. Oh the furnace, Yeah, 43 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:19.479 I remember the furnace sound. Yeah, it's been plaguing my recordings. Well, 44 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.400 I was gonna call a furnace guy, which I don't 45 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:22.840 even know where you'd start with that. I don't even 46 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.960 just google furnace guy. But the vent is up above 47 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:28.639 my reach, and so I was like, I don't want 48 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:30.240 to go upstairs and get a step stool and just 49 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:32.240 see if there's something clogged in there. And then I 50 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.319 was like, wait, I got all these WrestleMania chairs down here, 51 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.800 like I've got like twelve chairs from like WrestleMania as 52 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.000 I've sat in, and so I just brought it in here. 53 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:41.520 I stood up there and I just touched the vent 54 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:44.000 while I was making the noise, and it just stopped 55 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:44.800 making the noise. 56 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:46.800 Ling. 57 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:48.400 I just pushed it in a little bit, and now 58 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:50.840 no no longer making that noise. So I sold the rug. 59 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.000 I just took the rug the FedEx. Today it's like 60 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.759 I don't need this joker anymore. It wouldn't do anything anyway. 61 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:58.840 So but so, okay, so you prefer the room without 62 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:03.120 the rug by default? What's that You prefer the room 63 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:05.919 without the rug, and you wanted to get rid of 64 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.520 it because you wanted to see the floor. 65 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:14.479 I was, uh, sometimes I like to do like stretches 66 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.639 and stuff on the hard floor, and being on a 67 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:18.800 slippy little rug thing I didn't like. And so I 68 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:21.759 moved it over closer to that door, and I told Bonk, like, 69 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.080 oh I definitely like it over there better because then 70 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:25.919 I have more of the hardwood floor. She's like, wait, 71 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.199 the thing you like about the rug now is that 72 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:32.240 it's not on the floor. We're oh, yeah, that's a 73 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:33.520 good point. I should just get rid of it. And 74 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:34.400 so I get rid of it. 75 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.120 So you brought it where? Did you just get to FedEx? 76 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:38.759 Oh you returned it? 77 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.560 Yes, yes, I found that often if there's a noise 78 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.159 that's annoying me in the apartment, is something's loose and 79 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.039 I just have to tighten it. Yeah. 80 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:47.639 I just touched it and it just stopped. 81 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:52.199 Like our our like combo washer dryer we have makes 82 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.520 loud noises, and anytime I just lightly touched my finger 83 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:58.039 to the bottom right corner, the whole plastic like facade 84 00:03:58.080 --> 00:03:58.840 stops shaking. 85 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.879 It's like, oh, it's just loose. Then I taped it. Yeah, look, 86 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:04.560 home owners. 87 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:09.479 Yeah, you are not doing the job. Touching things and 88 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.960 hoping that they work and returning carpets is not normal. 89 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.199 There's a problem in my house. I got to work 90 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:17.680 on it, and now it's not a problem. 91 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:19.079 The problems gone. 92 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:22.480 I was standing on top of chairs and touching metal stuff. 93 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:24.959 He's thinking about stuff he'sensive. 94 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:28.439 You have stumbled through life yet again. But I will 95 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:32.199 not give you any like credence nortal for it. 96 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:34.959 You know how I imagine Dan looking while he's working 97 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:36.759 at his house. You know those photos where people pretend 98 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:38.319 to be thinking as if there's not a camera there 99 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:41.839 in the garden when they make announcements and they're just like, oh, 100 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.920 I just have news. I just I'm very pensive right now. 101 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.720 I'm thinking about the future. That's how I imagine Dan being. 102 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.680 I'm always pensive and I'm always thinking about things. That's 103 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:51.279 my whole deal. 104 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:51.600 Yeah. 105 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:53.959 No, if I'm thinking about stuff like all the time, 106 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:54.439 I'm awake. 107 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:56.360 I do fix stuff for real here too. Have I 108 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.600 told you about robes Pierre, He's the it's the event 109 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:03.639 on the room that was screaming once. What we had 110 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:08.720 a like crazy windstorm, uh it You know those like 111 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:13.720 circular vents that rotate on city roofs around the like 112 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:14.319 smoke stacks. 113 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:15.800 Oh yeah, the crazy metal things. 114 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.399 Yeah, we had such a like intense windstorm two years 115 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.000 ago that it like bent the metal so it was 116 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:23.399 just scraping against the rod, the axle at the center. 117 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.680 I went up to the roof and I just WD 118 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:27.800 forty did it and then but then it made the 119 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:29.560 noise again next year, so I actually had to like 120 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.319 pry the metal back into place. It's fine now, but 121 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.560 I do fix stuff. I don't just tape everything. It's 122 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.920 not all band aids. 123 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:38.879 What what'd you fix? 124 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:39.160 Mary? 125 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:40.560 Tell us what your house? 126 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:41.959 Are you not judging us? 127 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:42.319 Oh? 128 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:44.360 Yeah, you got your dvate septum on? 129 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.079 Oh yeah, how was that good? 130 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.839 The reason we recorded so early, Thank you both of 131 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:55.120 you for recording early, was because I had surgery the 132 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:58.079 next day and I was like, oh crap, I probably 133 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.560 won't be able to talk or do any thing for 134 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.879 several days because I'll be on drugs. So we recorded 135 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.480 our one hundredth episode early, and then I got my 136 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.800 surgery that following morning, and uh, they knocked me out 137 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:15.000 for it, and I woke up a couple hours later. 138 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.759 I assume this is what happened to you, Dan, and 139 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.160 they packed me full of gaze. It was probably one 140 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:24.800 of the most uncomfortable days of my life. I you 141 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:28.600 did warn me, but this severely uncomfort. 142 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:29.839 Your face wake up pain in. 143 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:31.879 Front nose, septum surgery. 144 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:32.360 Yeah. 145 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:34.639 The thing I'm shocked about is that you said you 146 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.000 got the stense out the next day, like I had 147 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.279 four for hours. I actually had like a week of 148 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.160 being able to breathe through my nose, Like, yeah, how 149 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:43.639 long until you could breathe out of your nose? 150 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:44.439 Uh? 151 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.720 Within twenty four hours? So yeah. The first day was miserable. 152 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.279 You can't breathe at all, and I'm trying to breathe 153 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:54.759 through my mouth, but it's painful. And I would wake 154 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:56.680 up like every one to two hours because I would 155 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:58.920 need a sip of water because my throat was dry 156 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.920 because I was breathing on my mouth. So had it's 157 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:06.680 terrible sleep Monday night. And then Tuesday, I went right 158 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.560 back in and he was like, let's see how you're healing. 159 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.000 He pulled out my stents, the things that he shoved 160 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:14.800 up my nose and I could breathe, and he was like, sick, 161 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:16.920 you got some stitches in there. Don't get punched in 162 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:18.680 your face. And I was like, you got it, Bud. 163 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.800 And I went home and I slept like a baby. 164 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:26.000 It was great. And I slept all Tuesday like that, 165 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.759 evening throughout until Wednesday. And then I went back to 166 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.439 work on Wednesday and I was fine. I was on 167 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.279 like pain killers a little bit for like Wednesday through Friday, 168 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:37.720 but I mean, I feel I feel I know they 169 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:39.720 were intense, but I feel I was fine, Like I 170 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.360 was breathing and sleeping normally Tuesday on. 171 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:45.600 Okay, that's good to hear, because you have mine was 172 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.879 like four operations on top of the sinnest thing. So 173 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.800 that must be the discrepancy in like a week for 174 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:51.720 me a day for you. 175 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:54.920 They were really in there, you know, whereas like for mine, 176 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.480 he was like, I straightened your tubes out and I said, 177 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:00.199 thank you very much, and he was like, good, you 178 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.519 should be good. Just don't let anything. He said, don't 179 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.920 fall and hit your nose and don't have anyone punch 180 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.120 you in your nose. And I said, I can handle that. 181 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:14.720 And I think we're back. It's been two weeks now. 182 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:18.600 I feel totally fine. I breathe amazing. I fully recommended it. 183 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.879 I know we've like talked about this before, especially for years, 184 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.959 but I have to say, if anyone's been thinking about it, 185 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:29.199 I have slept with nose strips on my nose for years. 186 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.279 I have just dealt with it and been like, oh yeah, 187 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:33.120 to go to sleep at night, I must have a 188 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:36.399 strip on my nose because I can't breathe good. I 189 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:40.440 don't need that anymore. I breathe perfectly fine in the evening. 190 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:44.440 It's so much easier even doing little things like working out. 191 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.519 I swear to God food has more flavor, and I 192 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.919 think that's because I was stuffed up when I was 193 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:53.519 eating and I couldn't smell the food. Prob really, so 194 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.879 it really has dramatically increased my quality of life. And 195 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:00.000 I'm thrilled that I die. I have no regrets. 196 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:02.519 Hell, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's great when you were 197 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:04.240 like over the hump with that stuff. It's it's awful 198 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.559 when it's like going on. But then once it's all settled, 199 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:07.159 it's okay. 200 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:07.919 That was worth doing. 201 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:11.639 Yeah, that was super worth it. So that was my 202 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:15.639 big fixer upper was my own face. I did not 203 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.080 do my own surgery. But I also didn't pretend that 204 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.440 I fixed it by touching it. So I feel like 205 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:22.600 I'm still on the up from you guys. 206 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:24.159 I love you face. 207 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:25.159 Thank you. 208 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:26.639 That's great. 209 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.639 I'm gonna put it under on Thursday for a little 210 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.000 thing today I got. I'm going to get a what 211 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:33.200 do you call it? An inflats? 212 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:34.799 What are you missing. 213 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.799 Eighteen. I was eighteen and I lost that. 214 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:38.919 Get a gold one in there. 215 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.159 I could, Oh, no, I'm just gonna get a normal one. 216 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:42.559 But they got to do a sinus lift first, so 217 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.480 they got to lift my sinus up and put some 218 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:46.000 fake bone in there, and then put a screw in 219 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:48.279 there and all this stuff. So yeah, they told me 220 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.840 when I was eighteen, and I was like, just take 221 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.039 it out, and they're like, you sure we can save 222 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:53.559 that tooth. 223 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:55.240 I was like, bad, just take it out. 224 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.279 And then it was like twenty plus years of like, 225 00:09:57.480 --> 00:09:59.200 oh wow, I wish I could chew on this side 226 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.279 of my face, and then like now my sinuses and 227 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:02.600 the bone structure were all fucked up. 228 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.559 Probably should have listened to the dentist people when I was. 229 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.360 Ever put a straw in that tooth hole. 230 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.759 No, I never have, or like drink here, but I 231 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.799 don't have a straw tarnish in there. I guess this 232 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:15.240 this this week with my last chance. 233 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:17.919 Yeah wait, now we're a farmer, Is that where you'd 234 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:18.679 put your straw? 235 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:19.639 Yeah? 236 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:21.799 Well, if I moved to like Los Angeles, when I 237 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:23.320 got off the bus and I showed want to show 238 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.120 that I was a hay seed from Kansas. 239 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:26.240 That's where I would put the straw. 240 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:28.799 Yeah yeah, tooth hoole. 241 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.279 Or if you're a getaway driver who wears bomber jackets 242 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.440 and toothpicks in his mouth, that's where it would go. 243 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:38.879 And you'd stare at Kerry Mulligan for ten seconds without 244 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:39.480 saying anything. 245 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:41.879 There's a stack of toothpicks in that because you could 246 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:43.919 put more than one toothpick in that hole, and then 247 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:45.960 you could like give them to other people that need 248 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:46.399 a toothpick. 249 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:46.840 Cool. 250 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:48.879 I think people you can put like a Roman candle 251 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:49.519 in there. 252 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:52.600 Oh yeah, yeah, cigarette or not, all sorts of I'm 253 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:54.159 going to cancel the surgery. I'm going to keep it 254 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:55.159 like this. This seems great. 255 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:01.440 Keep the keep the hole. There's too much cool stuff 256 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:02.320 you could do with that hole. 257 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.120 Dude, man, I had twenty years of this hole and 258 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:06.080 I didn't know what to do with it. 259 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:09.039 Now you're running out of time. 260 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:14.720 I'm still pretty lost. 261 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:17.759 Yeah, I'm the only one who has not had a 262 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:20.759 surgery during the fire escape tenure cave up. 263 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.039 I know we'll figure something out. 264 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:27.360 That's right. Bones broke bones, there's never got them fixed. 265 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:28.360 I think I. 266 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.799 Broke another knuckle. Maybe Mary you broke this one. 267 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.279 I'm not liable. I'm not liable for that. I was 268 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:36.799 the one in the room when it happened. 269 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:38.399 Well, that's true. 270 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:40.679 The one right next to it has not been bending 271 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:42.440 right and it's been hurting in it ever since. That's 272 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.879 when I smashed the vege slicer on it, and like 273 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:47.600 all the bleeding stuff is long done. That was weeks ago, 274 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:49.679 but I still can't bend it right. And I did 275 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:51.320 close the veget slicer on the knuckle. 276 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:53.759 I don't I think you're talking about the veggie slicer 277 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:55.480 as if we've talked about it. But I don't think 278 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:57.480 we've talked about it, Mary, unless I'm mistaken. 279 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:00.840 Oh, short version, I slammed my hand and a veggie 280 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.240 slicer gathered all over the blaze. 281 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.639 Talk Wait, was the blood from just like crushing it 282 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:08.840 or did the actual blade hit your hand. 283 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:10.320 A bunch of the blades because it was one of 284 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.320 those like fine like like waffle ticktac toe. 285 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:14.000 Things, And. 286 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.120 Yeah, I was cleaning it and I like dropped it, 287 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.240 and as I dropped it, I somehow put my right 288 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:23.159 hand into it and slammed it shut with the left hand. 289 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:25.720 I don't know how that happened. But I just looked 290 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:27.360 down and it hurt real bad for a second, and 291 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:30.000 I just saw blood start pouring out like five different cuts, 292 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:31.799 and so I just like wrapped a towel around he 293 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.440 real quickness, like buck. She just runs in and she 294 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:37.919 she told me, like she's seen this before. We're I'll 295 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.559 just be yelling and she's like, I'm gonna walk into 296 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:41.080 the room and I don't know what I'm going about 297 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.240 to see and it's just me, just blood all over 298 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:45.279 a towel and no, she cleaned me up and stuff. 299 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.120 So but it still won't bend, right. 300 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:51.559 Was it your vegetables? Yeah, okay, so you used the 301 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:56.679 vegetable slicer properly and then upon cleaning, you destroyed your hand. 302 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.559 That's great, Okay, just making sure. 303 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:01.919 Sure that's how you messed your hand up, to. 304 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.759 Make sure I understand that it wasn't in the process 305 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:07.440 of like slicing cucumbers. 306 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:10.320 Yeah. I burnt it on the air fryer like an 307 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:13.159 hour ago too. Okay, I take it back. You really 308 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:17.960 should not cook like this is. We've mead the whole 309 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:18.919 situation pretty good. 310 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.480 At there's blades held of that sometimes. 311 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:24.879 He almost chopped his finger off microwaving a factor meal. 312 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:28.480 Yeah, job hazard of being Dan Riker. 313 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.480 I'm getting used to it. I'm getting a little more 314 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.039 used to it now. I still keep getting hurt over 315 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:33.559 and over again. 316 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.200 But yeah, you gotta be careful with your fings. You 317 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.799 only get so many of those bad boys, and they're 318 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.879 pretty valuable. I feel like you need them, especially to 319 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:49.200 do your job. You know, like there's really though fxterity. 320 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:53.000 I mean, it's not like I'm talking about stuff way 321 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:55.480 more than I'm like playing stuff for typing stuff these days, 322 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:56.639 I can talk. 323 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:59.039 But if you had eight fingers, do you think that 324 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:00.679 you would be as good at your job? 325 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:04.039 I mean, I played a bunch of games with the 326 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:05.679 broken finger, and that was nine. 327 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:10.399 I said eight, and that the other ones are gone. 328 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:12.799 Oh they're just missing entirely. 329 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.000 Yeah, you can pick which ones all. 330 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:19.200 I'd make it work. There's great strides and accessibility these days. 331 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:24.039 It's true. I do think you're making a lot of 332 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.440 excuses for you to lose fingers. 333 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.919 I don't, For the record, I don't want to lose 334 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:30.440 any part of my body. 335 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:32.279 You'd like to keep them? 336 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:34.480 All I'm gonna get I'm adding to it I'm putting 337 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.919 a fake tooth in there himself. 338 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:40.240 Soon he'll be unstoppable. 339 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:44.200 Yeah, he's gonna have eleven fingers and no holes. 340 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:47.039 Gonna be like three more shoulders. Yeah, it's like dis 341 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:49.279 x mankind divided. I would do that. 342 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.639 I would do, like seriously, if it was like a 343 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:54.519 reputable company and it wasn't some like weird neuralink elon 344 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:57.039 musk thing. I would just if they were like, yeah, 345 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:58.279 we can chop off your head and give you a 346 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.919 good robot body and it's safe, I would absolutely do it. 347 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:04.480 We can rebuild him, we can fill the holes. 348 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:11.320 Yeah, my holes, what I say to the doctor, Yeah, 349 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:12.200 why are they looking at me? 350 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:12.519 Weird? 351 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.200 They love it? Well, I'm glad we have no back. 352 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:17.320 Did you have me? 353 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:20.720 Mike, Mike, get out of the disorges. Talk about the 354 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:25.360 glitterists all day, Mike, Mike, stop talking. They jacked off 355 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:26.440 in a right for us. 356 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.360 We got to just kick him out of kick him 357 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:29.879 out of the call, kick him out, kick him out. 358 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:32.440 That poor man, that's my best friend. 359 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:34.399 He did say those things. 360 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:40.519 Though he did say those things, it's true. 361 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:42.679 Doesn't know where the glitterist is. 362 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:45.679 What else is going on? I feel like he does, 363 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.720 I'm sure leave him alone. I send him a bunch 364 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:49.080 of salt. 365 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.080 Mike, Yeah, we had. 366 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:55.799 We had a nice conversation over Christmas break or somewhere 367 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:59.639 around there games the Game Awards where we were talking 368 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:03.320 about salt and he had only had like one kind, 369 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.519 and so I asked for his address, and I sent 370 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.120 him three different types of chicken salt so that he 371 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.519 could taste them and taste the differences of them. 372 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.879 Was it that Portland company that you gave us finishing 373 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:13.480 salt from? 374 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.519 No, but I do really like the finishing. We're big 375 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:19.000 salt people here, but this is more of an Australian 376 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:22.759 thing because Australians like chicken salt on their fries. It's 377 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.360 just salt that's flavored like chicken. It usually has MSG, 378 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.600 but it's like a heavy flavor component there, so you're 379 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.840 not just having salted anything, you're having chicken flavored salt. Anyway, 380 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.519 we have three different types of chicken salt in this 381 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.000 house because it's a big deal, and I sent all 382 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:42.919 three different types to Mike so he could taste the 383 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:43.759 differences of them. 384 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:45.120 Is he reported back? 385 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.600 Yeah, he liked the one that had the most MSG, 386 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:50.759 which I think is okay the. 387 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:52.320 Word on MSG these days, because I feel like in 388 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:54.720 the nineties it was like whoa, we got to put 389 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:56.559 no MSG on the packaging and stuff, and like now 390 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:58.159 you don't ever hear about it, so are we just 391 00:16:58.240 --> 00:16:59.039 cool with MSG now? 392 00:16:59.039 --> 00:16:59.879 I don't even know what it is. 393 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.159 I think it was like a satanic panic type thing 394 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:06.559 where everyone was like, no one could determine it. Yeah, 395 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.359 nobody could actually like mono making sure that it actually 396 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:13.240 was anything. And it is just a form of salt, 397 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.519 so it's not for you. It doesn't give you headaches. 398 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:18.720 And I thought it was she was a form of sugar. 399 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:20.519 What does Satan have to do with it? 400 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:24.880 No, she's just saying it's like comparing it to Okay, 401 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:25.759 I thought it was. 402 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:27.519 I thought it was a kind of sugar that's like 403 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:29.720 supposed to be a I think the narrative was that 404 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.720 it's people put it in food to addict you. That 405 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.599 was the narrative. And like the early aughts. 406 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:37.119 Oh, I thought it was that it gave people headaches. 407 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:40.079 It sounds like it's okay. Now I'm looking at it now, 408 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:41.039 it seems. 409 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:44.880 Sounds like it's okay. Yeah, it's it's always been okay. 410 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.599 And now culturally it's being more accepted. And I think 411 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.960 Mike is also right in the sense that like there's 412 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:51.960 a little there's like a tinge of racism in there 413 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:52.240 as well. 414 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:53.319 Yeah, I'm saying that too. 415 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:55.759 It's an Asian food thing, and like we don't want 416 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:58.720 that at our food And it's like it's freaking salt. 417 00:17:58.880 --> 00:17:59.400 Like let it go. 418 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:05.200 Speak assault and headaches and a mystery ingredient and French fries. 419 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:07.240 I got quite a segue. It's gonna connect all four 420 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:07.559 of those things. 421 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:08.599 I'm really excited about this. 422 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:10.960 Have you ever talked to anybody who says that the 423 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:12.960 sulfights in red wine give them headaches? 424 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:16.920 You know, not really talking to many people about wine, 425 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:17.200 to be. 426 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.440 Sure, But the people who think that they're allergic to 427 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.640 sulfights in red wine love to bring it up. It's 428 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:27.240 like being it's like CrossFit or being vegan. They can't 429 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.279 now talk about it. Sure, there are more sulfights in 430 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.960 the average French fry than there are in a bottle 431 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.799 of red wine. The amount of sulfur that's added to 432 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:39.759 stabilize a wine after or to stop fermentation, or to 433 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:44.200 clarify it. And this is after six weeks of studying 434 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.039 taking night classes. 435 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:50.559 Yeah, but you've also been screencapping his Instagram stories about 436 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.680 wine and my father and so much. 437 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.039 No, I'm just saying anybody who thinks that red wine 438 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:01.559 gives them headaches because the sulfights you're there's more cellfites 439 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:03.880 in French fries than there are in red wine. You're 440 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:05.880 probably getting a headache because you're not drinking water and 441 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:07.359 you're drinking too much red wine. 442 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:09.160 That's probably what's doing it. 443 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:11.680 Or maybe there's some other chemical in red wine that's 444 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:13.920 giving you a headache that white wine doesn't. But it's 445 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:18.640 not cell fites. Yeah, dumb asses, No, tannins are tannins. 446 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:20.680 I guess you could have a reaction. If you're allergic 447 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:23.279 to grape skin, then you might have a bad reaction. 448 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:25.880 Red wine makes me fight. What's in the red wine 449 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:26.480 that does that? 450 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:28.119 Higher alcohol content? 451 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:31.240 Yeah, I don't feel any difference between the Oh, if 452 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:32.799 I have tequila, I'm gonna have a crazy night, or 453 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.480 if I have this, it's gonna make me be sad 454 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.480 or something. Every alcohol I've ever had has the exact 455 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:38.240 same effect on me. 456 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:39.240 Is that normal? 457 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:43.319 I feel like wine I'm more mellow if I have 458 00:19:43.720 --> 00:19:44.680 a few too many. 459 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:47.599 Yeah, you know what, I guess you're right on that. 460 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:53.960 But there's also like sparkling wine and bubbly drinks, carbon 461 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:57.720 dioxide can contribute to getting you a bit woozier. So 462 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.000 it might feel you're gtting quote unquote drunk more quickly, 463 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.960 but the carbon dioxide is playing into that, so you're 464 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:06.160 not You're not imagining it. If like champagne is getting 465 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:09.319 you drunk more quickly, it's it's just not just alcohol. 466 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.839 But yeah, I don't know. I last I read and 467 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:16.799 this stuff I feel like changes every year, and then 468 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:18.880 I end up sounding stupid. So I'm just gonna say 469 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.359 it as if this is the current science. I don't 470 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.920 think mixing drinks ever had a negative effect. It was 471 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.960 more that you're drinking liquors with different alcoholic contents, so 472 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.599 like you're not pacing yourself. Sure as if you're drinking 473 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:34.279 one thing. Please the doctors who listen to us tell us. 474 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.039 And we've had this conversation before, Yeah, several times. 475 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.839 I currently of the mind that like, oh, the o 476 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:42.839 beer before liquor or mixing alcohols and stuff is a 477 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:43.519 bunch of hohoy. 478 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:44.839 It seems no. 479 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:46.359 Wait, wait, wait, wait, we did get the email about 480 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.119 the beer before liquor thing, and there is some truth 481 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.680 to it. Oh, let me look at it's gonna take 482 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:54.359 me foreverything something would like agitate the bubbles would agitate 483 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:55.440 your stomach lining more. 484 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:58.480 So I learned something if it takes five more seconds. 485 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:00.880 Someone someone sent it in like two years ago, and 486 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.160 it was something about if you start with a certain one. 487 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:05.759 I think it was the more bubbly liquids, it would 488 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:08.079 agitate your stomach lining and then allow. 489 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:09.640 More before liquor. Never sicker. 490 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.839 Yeah, so I guess maybe there is a but mixing 491 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:13.680 drinks in general. 492 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.160 I think maybe that's where that comes from. 493 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:19.000 I disagree every time I mix drinks, I do get 494 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:21.759 a little bit more sick. And it doesn't mean that 495 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.160 I've had six drinks. If I have three drinks, which 496 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:26.440 I did last night. I had a rum drink because 497 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:32.440 it was the launch of that new Lotus and I 498 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.680 always like to have like a tropical drink because I'm 499 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.680 on vacation when I'm watching White Lotus. And then I 500 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:40.880 had a whiskey drink because I felt like it. And 501 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.920 then I had a vibe could drink because it was 502 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:45.319 getting close to the end of the evening and I 503 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.160 didn't feel super great this morning. That's only three drinks. 504 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.359 I can drink three drinks, but I think the mixing 505 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:54.279 confused my tummy, and it was I can get that. 506 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.079 Make up your mind, lady, So I think that. I 507 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:01.160 do think mixing alcohol different types of liquor can get me. 508 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:06.279 But more than anything, red wine just puts up some 509 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:10.000 of my defenses or something like that. And for whatever reason, 510 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.440 if I have like a bottle of red wine and 511 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:16.480 someone crosses me, I'm more likely to tell them I'm. 512 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:19.160 Yeah, you're yeah. There's literally more alcohol in the vast 513 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:23.160 majority of red wines because by definition, the most of 514 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:24.880 the red wines will need to ripen more on the 515 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:25.440 veins so. 516 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:26.519 They develop drunk. 517 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:28.920 I don't think it's just the alcohol. I am a 518 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:32.920 very considerate drunk. I think that there's something about red 519 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:37.119 wine that makes me more irritable while I'm drunk. So 520 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.400 I am drunk, but I'm also like, I don't like it, 521 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:41.559 like there's something going on. 522 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:42.920 It could be something. 523 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:47.319 I'm not bar it's just not unless unless you also 524 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:49.680 get pissed off when you eat French fries, then maybe 525 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:50.359 it is sulfites. 526 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:51.960 But the opposite pissed off. 527 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:53.920 Sedate me. 528 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:56.640 Yeah, so maybe there's something in red wine. There could 529 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:58.960 be some sort of allergen that you react poorly to. 530 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:02.400 But also again, a bottle of red wine is anywhere 531 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.880 from thirteen to fifteen percent alcohol, and there's outliers, but 532 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.400 that's the general range the white wine is gonna be. 533 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.839 I mean, white wine could be like eleven to fourteen 534 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:12.400 or even lower if it's a sweet wine. 535 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.200 Man, I had a bottle of wine and a bunch 536 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:15.680 of beers last night and all I did was played 537 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:17.640 like ten hours of about that. 538 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:18.359 Sounds pretty seed. 539 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:19.160 It was awesome. 540 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.880 Yeah, it's like a good Sunday, three day weekend Sunday fun. 541 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:26.839 Well, speaking of do you want to talk about video games? 542 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:27.519 Let's do it. 543 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:32.799 Sure, Okay, we're coming off of an episode of not 544 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:35.000 talking about new games. What was the newest game we 545 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:39.759 talked about in Yeah that No, it's Diablow too. 546 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:41.000 Oh yeah, I. 547 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.359 Think that's it. It might have been elden Ring. Honestly, 548 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:46.680 I don't think we talked about a newer game than 549 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:50.240 elden Ring. Last tea on the top one hundred or 550 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:51.240 top sixty four games. 551 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.559 Well, probably the newest one eighties. 552 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:55.400 We talked about a lot, but that was twenty twenty. 553 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:59.079 But anyway, Yeah, we didn't talk about new games last episode, 554 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:04.160 and the odd slot of February is also well upon us. Dan, 555 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:07.480 you have been texting me full disclosure, I have not 556 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:09.720 started Avowed because I'm playing a lot of other stuff 557 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:11.160 and I want to. It seems like a game I 558 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:13.920 want to just like dive into and not deviate from 559 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.799 and stack up other games. Yes, but uh, you seem 560 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:18.680 to really like a Vowed. 561 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.039 Yeah, and good call on that, mic, because yeah, I 562 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.319 have two other games that I'm sure the embarger will 563 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.839 be up by the time this goes up, but no 564 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:28.680 point really saying what they are. But like other games 565 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:31.119 that I want to play, But I was so into 566 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:32.559 a Vow that it's like, I Am not going to 567 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.839 touch anything until I'm done with this and then I'll 568 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.839 all get to this other stuff. But Avowed right before 569 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:41.519 we record it tonight, I I'm on the definite final 570 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:42.640 stretch of the game. 571 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:45.839 It was definitely already. I've played fifty hours of it. 572 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.559 Wow, I can't believe you've burned through that many hours 573 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:48.759 of it. 574 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:50.839 Oh my god, I've known like eight to ten hour days, 575 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.880 like pretty much since it came out, Like, I fucking 576 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.319 love this game, and it was none on my radar 577 00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:59.960 at all, Like I like Skyrim, I like a Blive 578 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.240 and follow that three of the Bethesda style things, but like, 579 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:06.039 you know, like the story heavy RPG is not exactly 580 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:08.799 my genre, but I figured I'd give it a shot 581 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:10.319 and got a code for it, and it's like, all right, 582 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:12.839 well it's you know, it's it seems to be a 583 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:16.000 pretty dewey one of those. And as soon as I started, 584 00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.160 like going through the tutorial and it's like, okay, kill 585 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.039 these lizard dudes, It's like, oh shit, that felt really good. 586 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.839 Oh wow, okay, wow, the dodge is really good. Here 587 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.079 the pairing and blocking and oh shit, okay I can 588 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.480 get magic. The magic feels really good and it's really 589 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:30.160 easy to switch between all these different to you know, 590 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:31.200 if you want to do a bow, if you want 591 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:32.400 to do a gun, if you want to do magic. 592 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.960 Like there's just a lot of freedom in this game 593 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:40.200 and the way you approach combat, your character, exploring the world, 594 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:43.039 and like all of it pays off in a major way. 595 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:46.039 Like I think exploring is so much better than I expected, 596 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.720 Like the moving around is great, the like parkouring around stuff. 597 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.960 It's kind of that thing of like I almost like 598 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.559 breaking it in a way that like, Okay, I'm probably 599 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.319 not supposed to be able to go over this rock 600 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.400 cliff here, I'm probably supposed to find like an entrance, 601 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:00.359 but you can kind of like you know what, in 602 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:01.640 Skyrim you could do that where you just kind of 603 00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:03.680 like jump diagonally up like a thing or whatever, and 604 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.880 you kind of felt like you're cheating in a way, 605 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.640 but it was like fun, and there's some of that here. 606 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.880 But I think it's intentional though, Like I think they 607 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.079 are trying to get you to play. I think I 608 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.240 recognized as well. I'm also playing it, but I'm not 609 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:18.279 nearly as far as you. I'm a couple hours in, 610 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.480 and I think in the very beginning they're like, hey, 611 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.039 this building probably has some stuff in it. You can 612 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:26.640 walk by it and not go into it. You can 613 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.240 go in through the front door and you can fight 614 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.200 the stuff. Or what I ended up doing was I 615 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:32.519 was like looking around, and there's boxes you can climb 616 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.440 to get to the roof and then drop in through 617 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.440 the ceiling and surprise them, which is what I did. 618 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.079 And I thought it was really cool that they gave 619 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.039 you lots of options, including you don't have to fricking 620 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.000 go in there. They wasn't a part of the main quest. 621 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:47.160 There's lots of side places that let you play the 622 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.440 way you want or just avoid it altogether, which I 623 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.160 think makes me feel like I have a lot of autonomy. 624 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.799 But it made me feel like I was cheating a 625 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.599 little bit, but it's clearly designed that way, but it 626 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:57.119 felt good. 627 00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:59.400 Yeah, I feel like there are times where it's like 628 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.319 you'll just approach like a house on the side of 629 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:03.279 the road, and it's like, okay, well you could open 630 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:05.119 this door if you want to burn through four of 631 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.960 your lock picks, or you could find the actual key 632 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.640 to this barn which is somewhere, and I anytime I 633 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.960 saw that, I'm like, I'm finding the like bespoke key. 634 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:15.880 I'm not just like burning through my lock picks for this. 635 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.319 And yeah, just like searching around. There's lots of little stories, 636 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:21.240 a lot of like little you know, diaries and notepads 637 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:22.839 to read and it's like, oh, I wonder what happened 638 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.920 to this skeleton who looked like it died crying on 639 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.039 a cliff or whatever, you know, it's like, yeah, that 640 00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:28.720 stuff is just kind of littered throughout the whole world. 641 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:30.720 But it's not like I feel like with open world 642 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:32.839 games there was definitely this period and like maybe the 643 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.440 three sixty ish era where they were obsessed with like 644 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:37.640 square mileage or even going back to like you know, 645 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:39.799 Sanadreas and PS two open world games, where. 646 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.920 It's like you could get twenty of that map into 647 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.640 this map. We're not that pussy small map. We're a big, 648 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.960 big dig map here, like that was the whole thing. 649 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.640 It's just like how big the fucking map would be? 650 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.119 And this is like in terms of square mileage. It's 651 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.000 not like I'm sure, I don't know, but it wouldn't 652 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.519 sprise me with like a Skyrim or a Fallout four 653 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.920 or something's bigger. But I do feel like everything is 654 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.119 just kind of crafted and interesting and well thought out 655 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.480 here that made me enjoy exploring this world a lot more. 656 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.119 Which it is, like it's numerous different open zones. It's 657 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.839 not one big square so it's like you'll spend you know, 658 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.000 ten twelve hours in Dawn Shore, then you'll move on 659 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:16.559 to em World Sarah, and there's like four of these 660 00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.799 different spots here but yeah, I had a ton of 661 00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.240 thoughts while I was playing this because I was very surprised. 662 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:24.960 When I was playing it, I was thinking, like, this 663 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:26.839 is a killer game. I feel like this is like 664 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:28.599 in terms of just the game mechanics, like this is 665 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.279 like the standard for the genre now for me. 666 00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:31.799 And then the. 667 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.440 Reviews came out, and I think largely they were positive, 668 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:35.759 Like when I last looked, it was a like an 669 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.119 eight m Metacritic, but there were definitely some like sixes 670 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:39.960 out there. I think IGNN game Spot both gave it 671 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.960 a six, and you know, I was just kind of 672 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:43.319 reading around. I was like, Okay, I want to see 673 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:45.240 kind of what the common complaints are here and everything, 674 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:47.839 and I saw some of the more negative reviews or 675 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.359 kind of medium reviews were like, okay, yeah, we played 676 00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.400 thirty hours of this game, and I remember when I 677 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:54.039 read that, I was like, I'm over thirty hours in 678 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.720 it right now, and I feel like I barely started. 679 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.839 I'm like, you know, just finishing up the second area. 680 00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:01.400 And it really got me thinking about just that nature 681 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.519 of getting games early and trying to rush through them 682 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:04.359 to review them. 683 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:06.960 Great, because you would need to hit embargo and say 684 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.759 you're running out of time and these have this game 685 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:13.200 in particular, in my opinion, I have like eight side 686 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.480 quests already and I just started. So if you're not 687 00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.839 doing those side quests and you're not really exploring that game, 688 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.000 you're probably missing a good chunk of what's fun about it. 689 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.839 Yeah, yeah, you're not just missing you are definitely missing 690 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:27.359 some really fun side quests, like some of those are 691 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.119 the best quests in the game. But also, I think 692 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.680 you're doing yourself a disservice in terms of what you're 693 00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.759 doing in the main quest, because I do think that, 694 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:35.759 you know, in a lot of the more negative reviews, 695 00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:37.720 I saw complaints about, like, oh, the crafting system. I 696 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.480 feel like I was always overwhelmed and I was dying 697 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:41.680 too much. I never had strong enough gear, and I 698 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:43.359 was reading that stuff and I was like, I've never 699 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:45.720 run into that. I've never felt like I've died, but 700 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.759 I feel like I've been dying the right amount, you know, Like, 701 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.960 and so I think, like, oh shit, I guess you're 702 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.759 rushing through this. You're missing front of stuff gear, You're 703 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:55.839 not prepared, you don't have good gear. So like I've 704 00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.440 definitely been telling people, like, do the side stuff. 705 00:29:58.480 --> 00:29:59.759 It is good. It is worth it. 706 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.960 Yeah, and you're leveling up your character, which you need. 707 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.680 The I'm curious how you're leveling right now. I have 708 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:12.519 I think there's three. There's warrior abilities, there's ranger abilities, 709 00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:18.680 and then there's uh magic Yeah, I was gonna call 710 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.400 it magic man abilities, but wizardry. I think it's the 711 00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:25.000 right one. Yeah, and I went magic Man and so 712 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:28.200 I'm shooting these like balls out and doing a lot 713 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:32.200 of damage. Those are all upgradeable significantly. And I think 714 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.799 you can also upgrade your the people that you're with. 715 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:37.960 And so if you're not doing this stuff, you're not 716 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.680 upgrading yourself and your your companions, you're gonna be pretty 717 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:43.519 weak sauce for those later bosses. 718 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:44.519 Yeah. 719 00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.799 And like the gear upgrading stuff I thought was great. 720 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.440 Like it's not the most like intricate, uh you know system, 721 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:51.519 It's just like, okay, well, these type of things require 722 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.160 these two items, and these require these two leveled up 723 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.519 versions of those items, so you can combine things to 724 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:56.839 you know. 725 00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.519 It's it's all very well thought out. 726 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.799 But like, you know, you've got your which I'm sure 727 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:02.279 if you're a wizard, you've got the wand which is 728 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.400 like infinite, Like there's no finite AMMO for. 729 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.480 Any of your right now, mostly the grim War. 730 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:09.000 Yeah, so that's the thing is like, that's what I 731 00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:10.759 love about Wizard is I've got the grim War in 732 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:13.039 my left hand and a wand in my right. So 733 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:14.799 it's like you can boom boom bom boom, like kind 734 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:16.839 of range throw magic at him, but then you can 735 00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:19.319 grimwore throw fireballs or rain ice down on them and 736 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:19.960 stuff like that. 737 00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:23.359 And the switch your load out really fast, which I 738 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:28.680 really like because I'm I'm mostly a distance combat person. 739 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:32.000 I very rarely have a sword or a mallet. It's 740 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.880 usually like a bow and then my wizard skills, and 741 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:37.960 so it was really neat for me when I ran 742 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.079 out of I forget what they call mana, but when 743 00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:43.119 you run out of juice, I would whatever and I 744 00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:45.319 would switch to my bow and then I would bow 745 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:46.839 them to death. And it was kind of sick that. 746 00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:50.359 I like, it's a quick swap button and so what's 747 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.759 really nice to essentially like use all my magic pop up, 748 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:54.359 pop pop up, hit them with a bunch of balls. 749 00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:56.400 I killed a bear this way, and then I when 750 00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.440 I ran out of magic, I switched right to my 751 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.599 bow and I just did mad head shots with my 752 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.359 bow until he was down and it felt great. 753 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.039 Yeah, it's it's the Y button on Xbox to switch, 754 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:06.680 and it's just like switching guns and Call of Duty. 755 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.200 So it's like switching to a launcher to knock down 756 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.720 on a UAP or something. But like there's also rings 757 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.119 and accessories and stuff, so if you want to like, okay, 758 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.440 it's very important to me that I'm switching between stuff frequently. 759 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.440 Like no, put on a necklist that makes it plus 760 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.440 forty percent you know, equip you know, speed and stuff 761 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.960 like that, so and you can like you don't really 762 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:27.200 get too pigeonholed into your skill tree because like most 763 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.200 of my stuff was in Wizard, Like I'd say ninety 764 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.200 plus percent of my upgrades I put into a Wizard, 765 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.279 but I would look at the Ranger stuff. I would 766 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:35.599 look at it and it's like, oh shit, this ranger 767 00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.279 ability lets me like get twice as many like crafting 768 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.680 materials when I pick up these things, or you know, oh, 769 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.319 this chargeability would be good from the Fighter Warrior thing 770 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.480 because then I could knock down walls with this charge thing. 771 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.599 So it is very easy to just kind of like 772 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.599 you don't have to like put a billion points into 773 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:52.599 a tree that you don't care about. You can just 774 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.119 cherry pick, like I want that thing and then you 775 00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.400 know stay the course of the wizard and stuff like that. 776 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.359 So can you respect if I like have way through 777 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.319 the game, I'm like, I actually do want to be 778 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.640 a warrior? Can I switch? What does it cost me? 779 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:05.680 Uh? 780 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:07.359 I don't know if it goes up every time. I 781 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.160 did it once and it cost me like a thousand gold, 782 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.880 which is not much at all. No, yeah, okay, Yeah, 783 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:14.440 money comes pretty easily in this, so yeah, you can 784 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:15.359 respect any time. 785 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:15.759 Uh. 786 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.000 And it's just like it's very easy because like the 787 00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.559 weapons are simple to like again, you don't have to 788 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.319 live up a bunch of different trees. Like I did 789 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:25.000 not have warrior stuff at all, but if I found 790 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.680 this super unique you know, exquisite battle axe or something, 791 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.759 I could pull that out despite not having any like 792 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.400 points that go into like you know heavy weapon abilities 793 00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.960 and stuff like that. So and it's got all the 794 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:39.240 usual RPG you know, speech check stuff and everything, and 795 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.680 you know intellect and perception and things like that that 796 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:42.319 you know open up. 797 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.119 Yeah, the dialogue options have been really interesting. What did 798 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.880 you go with? I went with uh, I went with 799 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.440 like a shady guy court. 800 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.319 Yes, I think me, you and Bank all did the 801 00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:53.880 exact same. 802 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.720 I know I was with a court Auger. 803 00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:57.880 Yeah. 804 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.640 I think I will go ranger for the Wreckord. I'm 805 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.200 much more early on than you. But for my first 806 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:05.680 round I did Wizard just because I wanted to see 807 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.320 what the magic balls were. Like, you can't just say 808 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.679 shoot three balls of magic that do damage and have 809 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.519 me not be like, well, I know what a sword 810 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.039 and a bo do, but gotta I know what three 811 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:19.880 balls do. 812 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.320 Yes, Mary, that's awesome because like, let's say you like 813 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.519 having a Let's say you're a warrior and you've got 814 00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:28.039 a sword and shield. You could put a point into 815 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.079 that like missile salvo, magic salvo ability and just map 816 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.639 it to your dpad, So no matter what weapons you 817 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.360 have equipped or anything, you could have your sword and 818 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:36.960 shield out. But you see a dude up there and 819 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.679 it's kind of sniping you, you can just look up there, 820 00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.239 hit a deepad magic missile stuff going that way. 821 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:43.079 I do need to do that because I found it 822 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.360 a little irritated. So I'm not as Yeah, I keep 823 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.239 saying this, but like I think I still have a 824 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.400 couple qualms of this game that I haven't solved yet 825 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.000 that it looks like you've had the time to solve. 826 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.239 And one of them is is that like, uh, I'm 827 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.639 hitting right bumper to find my magic abilities. It's also 828 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.920 how you can tell your partner what to do, which 829 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.800 you need to do because my partner has an agro. 830 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:06.840 So when I'm fighting a giant bear, for example, I 831 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.000 need my partner to agro the bear so that I 832 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.559 don't fricking die so that I can shoot him with balls. 833 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:17.360 So I was constantly like right, left bumper, find my agro. 834 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.639 Agro the guy, left bumper, find my magic magic missile. 835 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.599 I think a dpad would be so much smoother for me, 836 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:26.360 but I haven't short mapped anything yet. 837 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:27.760 Quick Miro, Oh yeah, it's super simple. 838 00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:29.239 So just when you go into that radio menu, so 839 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.039 you hit LB, just highlight anything and just tap a 840 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.800 deepad thing. RB is your grenade. But then up down, left, 841 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.599 right you can have anything. So if that can be 842 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.760 companions step too. So if you know, every time into 843 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.920 a fight you want him to draw a fire map, 844 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:44.519 it to up and then every time a fight starts 845 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.239 to tap up you're good to go. But they will 846 00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:48.960 also do that stuff of their own volition in combat. 847 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.199 But there are certain ones where you just want to 848 00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.760 be like, okay, use the vines and wrap that guy 849 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:54.440 up right now. 850 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.039 You know you want control over that. The vines are yea, yeah, 851 00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:58.639 I want the vines. Those are the ones that they 852 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.760 prevent you from walking forward. I was curious and we 853 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.440 were talking about intelligence and things like that. So because 854 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:04.920 I went with a build that was a bit smarter, 855 00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:08.280 I had more intelligence options and I can kind of 856 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.239 tell when people are lying, or I can kind of 857 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:12.960 I get like, I think a bit of a warning 858 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.360 in my dialogue options that are like that' sus. There 859 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.280 was a lady who was in a jail cell that 860 00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.639 had like a couple lies that she told me, and 861 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.400 so I called her out on them, and she admitted 862 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.119 that she was lying, and then later it was like 863 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:25.679 you have a key? Do you want to unlock her? 864 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.519 And it's interesting because if you didn't have that much 865 00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.880 of intelligence and you didn't call her out she didn't 866 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.119 come clean about lying to you, you might have not 867 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.360 opened up the gate and been like you're a liar, 868 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.400 like we don't trust you. But I ended up unlocking 869 00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.840 the gate and she was beneficial and she didn't try 870 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.400 and kill me. So it's really it's I do like 871 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.239 that type of world building, same thing with Skyrim, where 872 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:50.599 you can essentially be like this person might be a 873 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:54.119 liar and I don't know the full story, but you 874 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:56.440 trust people are not based on the dialogue options that 875 00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:56.760 you have. 876 00:36:57.320 --> 00:36:59.320 Yeah, and there are big like you know, that was 877 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:00.920 one of the early ones where it's like, you know, oh, 878 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.360 I wonder if I should trust or not because like 879 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.880 and it doesn't make it, you know, super duper obvious 880 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.440 with some and some of them have huge ramifications for 881 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.039 like basically who you're siding with and things like that 882 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.760 and what's gonna happen the fate of certain characters, and 883 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:14.719 so there were a lot of decisions where I was like, man, 884 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.639 I can't decide what to do here, And a lot 885 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.880 of times before you have to say like this or that, 886 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:20.960 you can say like, let me check with my companions. 887 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.559 And depending on because there's four companions you can get 888 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:24.920 in the game, and you can have two with you 889 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.719 at any given time, and so depending on which two 890 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.039 you get, like one of them, like you might be like, oh, 891 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:33.079 should I kill this person or let them go. You know, 892 00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:34.880 you might have someone in your party that's like, no, 893 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:36.960 they killed my fucking family. Fuck them, let's throw them 894 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.880 into a volcano. And then you might have others that 895 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:41.679 are like, yeah, she sucks, but like also we have 896 00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.360 to kind of see, like so it's really interesting, like 897 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.639 kind of like huddling with your dudes and be like, 898 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.719 I don't know, should we do something here, like actually 899 00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.199 hearing them out and I've made this and. 900 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.960 Their own biases too, right, yeah they might not be right. 901 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.440 Yeah, yeah, it's incredibly well written. I love the Companion 902 00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.280 except for the last one. Last one. I know I 903 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.840 do not like that last companion. You'll know when you see. 904 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:07.199 It's that the yeah, the second, the second I saw, 905 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.079 What the fuck is this? I've seen like several review 906 00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:14.679 horny reviewers called her out wait, like pro horny. 907 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:16.639 Uh. 908 00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:18.119 There was like a pull quote on a review that 909 00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.960 I saw that says something about like the permanently horny 910 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.800 mage Yachtsley is fun. 911 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:23.840 To be horny. 912 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.039 I thought you were saying people were horny for Yatley, 913 00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:27.639 which would be no, I don't know, weird. 914 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.559 Okay, okay, that's funny. Yes, she is horny. Her character is. 915 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.320 First of all, you're allowed to be horny for a maze. 916 00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:34.039 You haven't seen it. 917 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:38.239 You haven't seen Yachtley, I haven't seen. If anyone's horny 918 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:39.840 for y, they need to go to jail. 919 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.760 Based on visual or based on how they after both 920 00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:46.599 a little bit. 921 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.400 At just more than like, I think it would be illegal. 922 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.400 This is just a weird animal, weird Harley Quinn something 923 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.400 or other like, I just yeah. 924 00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.480 You should just just go to jail. Okay, check yourself 925 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:00.880 into a jail if you have sex with. 926 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.199 I really like the guy I have now. He's Blue. 927 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.480 I like him. I think that he's really consistent, he's 928 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.280 not annoying. He's been very helpful so far, and his 929 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.719 attacks have been beneficial to me in battle. So I 930 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:14.360 like this guy. 931 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:14.559 Guy. 932 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:15.719 I'm going to keep him around. 933 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.440 That fire like blunderbusting he's got that can burn like 934 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:19.760 vine very effective. 935 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.440 Burning in general is very effective in this game, or 936 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.119 at least in the island I'm in now, because I 937 00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.519 can't tell you many times it's like damn, there's thorns 938 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.119 in the way, and it's like not for me, not 939 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.760 for me. And Blue Boy because he can burn right 940 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:35.800 through them, So it's it's been nice to have him around, 941 00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.039 but I have historically had problems with annoying sidekicks, Like 942 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:42.920 it's easy for me to just kind of get tired 943 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.119 of people who are around trying to help me out. 944 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:45.559 What have you. 945 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.239 I you saying, it's well written, but I'm just curious 946 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:50.559 just because of the amount of dialogue in this game, 947 00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.079 and as someone who is just such a more dewey person, 948 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.960 this might just be me because I don't gravitate towards 949 00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:02.119 games like Oblivion. This is not my bad. Yeah, I 950 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.400 still find it really talky with You can talk to 951 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.719 them at the fire when you camp for the night, 952 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.159 and they'll have a little asterisk over their head if 953 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.159 they have something to talk to you about. And so 954 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:13.480 I was like, let's see what they have to say. 955 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.960 And it was like a novel of crap that he 956 00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:18.679 had to say to me that I did not give 957 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.079 a shit about. And I ended up speeding through it, 958 00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.360 which I don't think you're supposed to do to really 959 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.199 appreciate that game, but I did. And I just I 960 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.079 just want to say that from my perspective, it's like 961 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.360 more of a dewey person. I thought it was a 962 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:31.960 lot of texts like and. 963 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:33.960 You know, I think we're wired the same with that stuff. 964 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.239 And just to ease your mind with that, I think 965 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.679 each character has that opening salvo of just like tell 966 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:41.960 me about yourself, where are you from? 967 00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.519 What's your deal? You know, like what do you like? 968 00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.599 And that's what you do with Kai And it's like 969 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:46.800 a lot and I don't know if you got the 970 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.719 thing when you do that, like it's like, oh, he 971 00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:50.719 taught you this thing and you got like plus two 972 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.000 permanent perception bonus or something it did. 973 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:54.599 Which is why I was like, I'll do that again. 974 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.639 But I did speed through it and didn't actually read 975 00:40:57.840 --> 00:40:59.760 or listen or care. And I think that that's a 976 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.760 bit of a that's a bit of a knock on 977 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.119 myself for not probably playing the game I'm supposed to. 978 00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.679 But I'm also just saying it was a lot to read. 979 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.599 I'll say the story stuff is good like all that. 980 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.920 All those conversations with the companions I thought were good. 981 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.480 But just to ease your mind when you go back 982 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:16.599 to the party camp in the future, if you have 983 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.360 done that opening, you know, what your deal. 984 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:20.280 What's your backstory? 985 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.800 Like there's everyone has that first like here's seven questions 986 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.159 and things. You go down and that's it going forward. 987 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:29.400 After a big story beat or something, you might go 988 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.960 back and there's a little thing over Kai's head and he'll. 989 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:33.199 Just be like, man, that was fucked up back there. 990 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.800 Hopefully things are better, and then that's it, Like you've 991 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:38.480 you're not going to have another like thing, not going 992 00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:39.039 to tell me. 993 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:41.159 A mountain back story because he's already told me his 994 00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:42.119 ex r those. 995 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:44.760 Yeah, each there's three companions. 996 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.360 Each one of them has one longer sequence of kind 997 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:48.920 of getting to know him at the camp, and then 998 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.880 once you do that, it's just like quick check ins. 999 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.079 So the good news is that even though there's a 1000 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.360 lot of dialogue so far, I have enjoyed the dialogue, 1001 00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:01.039 and my companion was pretty fun, and the characters that 1002 00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:03.880 I've met so far have also been enjoyable. I haven't 1003 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.760 been tired or bored by the story in this game, 1004 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:10.079 but I don't think I also have the main hook 1005 00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:12.039 of the plot yet. I think I'm still in that 1006 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.000 intro area where they're like like, I'm killing stuff and 1007 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.480 I'm learning everything, but I don't. I haven't met a 1008 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:18.920 king yet, and I feel like in this game you're 1009 00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.000 going to meet a king or something. Have you met 1010 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.480 the king? What's he like? 1011 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:26.280 Well, the king you have? You've heard about the Emperor. 1012 00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:27.159 He's the one who sent me. 1013 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:29.679 Yeah, I've heard I've heard about him. 1014 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:31.960 Yes, yeah, you're basically going like I heard someone described 1015 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:33.360 it as like fantasy Australia. 1016 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.079 It's like this like island words. 1017 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:45.719 Right, Oh, your skinny bag of bagdaggons with three XP. 1018 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.800 I'll say it's not a lot of like fantasy. 1019 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:56.000 Chicken so own your froy he's there. 1020 00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:58.159 He's called chicken soap. 1021 00:42:58.960 --> 00:42:59.960 That's that's more cockney. 1022 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:03.480 Get him. Yeah. I turned in to cat me really easily. 1023 00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.079 To Australia, it's called chicken Soap. 1024 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.000 I just went into like a Hammersmith kind of Newcastle 1025 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:13.199 thing there too. Get in. 1026 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.840 Yeah, what is the premise to this? It's sent the 1027 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:20.119 Pillars of Eternity Universe. 1028 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:20.559 I know that. 1029 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.199 Yeah, I didn't know that until a few hours in. 1030 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.559 Andy'd be kind of interested in it because I thought 1031 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.079 this was an interesting world. 1032 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.159 You would hate those games, I'll tell you before. 1033 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.800 Yeah, I know there's the RPGs, and I believe I would, 1034 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:32.400 but I will say the world. 1035 00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.719 So much reading in those games. 1036 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.880 You, this is the right way for me to take 1037 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:37.320 in that world. 1038 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.440 The world like people, I'm just saying I wouldn't recommend 1039 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.280 you play those games, but I wasn't maybe read it 1040 00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:42.119 wasn't at risk of it. 1041 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.480 I just I can appreciate the world here because like, yeah, 1042 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.639 so basically you are sent you're like an Adyrian, which 1043 00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.719 is basically just like the big conquering uh you know, 1044 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.519 just like they're like the military basically of the main 1045 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.239 land here, and you get sent to this island to 1046 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.159 meet up with this ambassador and Adyrians are starting to 1047 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:03.039 like come to the island. 1048 00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:03.960 I won't give. 1049 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.400 Every beat here, but basically you get there and it's like, 1050 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.320 oh man, everyone here hates Darians. What's the deal? And 1051 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.599 then it's like, oh, why are some of these people 1052 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:13.360 fucked up? And they got like plants grown out of 1053 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.599 their face and they're you know, having crazy dreams and 1054 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.280 going crazy. So it's that's called the dream scourge. Is 1055 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.719 this like pandemic situation that's going across the island. So 1056 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.280 it's a lot of like investigating that. It's a lot 1057 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.840 of like your character wrestling with like, man, are you know, 1058 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:30.880 are we the good guys? Like the adyrians, like everyone 1059 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:32.800 here seems to fucking hate us, Like I'm just here 1060 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.639 doing a job and I'm trying to be like yeah, 1061 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:38.199 it's that, and you could you could lean into it. 1062 00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:39.679 You could just be like I'm here like there's a 1063 00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.119 lot of dialogue options that this is the law of Aderia, 1064 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:43.480 this is you know, this is how we do things. 1065 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.559 And then there's like hey, you know, like I mean, 1066 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:47.800 I'll give you one example of a side quest. It's 1067 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.880 you go to a brothel called the Mermaid's Den and 1068 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.199 this lady's like, hey, we needed to can you go 1069 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:54.760 pick up the shipment? Like there's a bunch of like 1070 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.199 assholes that are like hoarding the shipment and I need 1071 00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.440 my shit, and it's like I needed to keep the 1072 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.119 business open. And I was like, okay, what the hell 1073 00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:03.119 is this? Like is this gonna be a wire season two? 1074 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:04.480 Like I need to go get a bunch of like, 1075 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.920 you know women something. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what 1076 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:09.159 I thought it was going to be. And it was 1077 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.800 just like a box and I took it back and 1078 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.360 it turns out it's this like herb that is a contraceptive, 1079 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.800 and you can you can the dialogue options are you 1080 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.400 can be like this is illegal, this is a violation 1081 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.320 of a Darien law. I'm you know, sending you in 1082 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.280 or whatever. But then it's like I also I picked 1083 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:24.960 the one where I was like, hey, yeah, just nobody's 1084 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:26.519 like she was like kind of worried about like, oh shit, no, 1085 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:28.280 like she was, I don't worry about it. 1086 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:29.519 No, you're good. You're good. 1087 00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.719 You know the charisma check. Lets you say, get to fucking. 1088 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:36.639 So it's kind of. 1089 00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.760 Interesting stuff like that, like, and it's uh, I think 1090 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:41.880 I liked the story I did. If you would have 1091 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:43.800 told me when I saw the like SGF reveal of 1092 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.719 this fantasy RPG from Obsidian and the Pillars of a 1093 00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:48.280 Turn of the Universe, I probably would have been like 1094 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:48.840 that ain't for me. 1095 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:50.280 But I like it. 1096 00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:51.400 I like it a lot. Like I said, I'm like 1097 00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.639 fifty hours in now. I feel like I'm literally like 1098 00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.599 going up to the last thing right now I had. 1099 00:45:57.639 --> 00:45:59.400 What do you think your completion is? Sounds like you've 1100 00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.599 done a lot of side quests. You think really like 1101 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.519 stretched the boundaries of this game and have done. 1102 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.239 A lot of the Yep, all these areas have like 1103 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.559 these six golden totems you can find. I've gotten every 1104 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.719 one of those. I've done every bounty. Every place you 1105 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:14.320 go to has like five bounties you can pick up. 1106 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.239 I've done every bounty, every side quest I've run into. Yeah, 1107 00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.360 there's no like in game percentage count or anything like that, 1108 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:21.719 but like by the time I've gone on to the 1109 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.239 next area, every time I don't have a single side 1110 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.199 quest open up. There are a couple where it's like, oh, 1111 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.360 you got this like metal that you won't be able 1112 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:30.559 to get forged until three things later. 1113 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.480 So like a couple of those. But like, I've been 1114 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.079 doing everything in this game, and I have not gotten 1115 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:36.599 tired of it. 1116 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.840 I mean, I think that that says a lot, and 1117 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:43.440 I appreciate that you haven't just like made an effort 1118 00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:47.079 to complete this game. You are really getting into playing 1119 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:49.519 this game and like discovering all of its secrets. And 1120 00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.360 I think for people who are fans of Oblivion and Skyrim, 1121 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.280 you kind of want someone who is invested in the 1122 00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:59.920 world building more than just like ye average play through 1123 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.239 of the game. So I'm more inclined to listen to you. 1124 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:07.519 But I also find it fascinating considering, like how talky 1125 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:09.920 this is, that this is something that you feel really 1126 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:13.480 interested in because good. That's what made me concerned when 1127 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:14.320 I was playing it. 1128 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.000 Yeah, it's like even like with like Oblivion and Skyrim, 1129 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:19.920 which games I really enjoyed, Like I didn't. It felt 1130 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.079 very fantasy trophy to me, like, Oh, I'm the dragon 1131 00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.119 born and here's you know, the warring factions and the 1132 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:24.880 dragons and all that. 1133 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:26.199 It's like, all right, this is every fucking Lord of 1134 00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:27.119 the Rings thing I've ever seen. 1135 00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.519 And I was assuming I would be buttoning through a 1136 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:32.280 lot more stuff than I was here because I was 1137 00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:35.599 listening to everything. I was like examining every option. I 1138 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.519 was really trying to think of, like what I would 1139 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:38.639 want to do in this situation. 1140 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.719 And it's made it a great experience. 1141 00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.639 Oh that's great, Dan, I think it's great that you're 1142 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.920 enjoying it. I have also enjoyed my time with it. 1143 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.159 But I've been really torn because there's another game that 1144 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.920 I've really wanted to play, and it was really difficult 1145 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:57.039 to decide each evening if I would play this or 1146 00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:59.639 another game that I want to talk to Mike about 1147 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.280 thoughts with a vowed Is there anything else do you 1148 00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:03.760 want to say? 1149 00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:04.960 Dan? Uh? 1150 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.960 That's that's the you know, I just can't imagine, you know, 1151 00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:09.679 the last hour I probably have left. 1152 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.760 I can't imagine turning hard on it. 1153 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:12.639 It seems unlikely. 1154 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.000 Yeah did you pay for it? 1155 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:16.239 Uh? 1156 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.360 No, I I was gifted a copy. 1157 00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:22.480 Why would be a classic kish? Okay, yeah, I did 1158 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:23.079 not kiss it. 1159 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.519 I was I was gifted a copy. And I will 1160 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.679 also say my last piece about this, for we moved 1161 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:32.199 to Tales of Iron two that I got a Xbox 1162 00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.199 code and I have not turned my Xbox on in 1163 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.719 a hot minute. And when I when I turned it on, 1164 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.039 I was like it was like updating, like a year's 1165 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.880 worth of updates. Yeah, and uh, it's really gotten me 1166 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:48.760 back into having my Xbox on and I really missed 1167 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.480 having my Xbox, so I think about is cool for 1168 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.639 doing that too. It's like also revived my love of 1169 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:55.760 my Xbox. Because for the record, when I play Game Pass, 1170 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.760 I played on my PC. It was like exclusively like, oh, 1171 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.000 I'm playing in my office on my PC and enjoying 1172 00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.360 a computer game. But the Xbox I play on my 1173 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.480 couch on my TV, which is my jam. So grateful 1174 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.159 to have another couch game to play. But the reason 1175 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.480 I was torn and I haven't put as much time 1176 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.920 into avout is because I started getting really into Tails 1177 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:18.840 of Iron two, which Mike dmd us and said, you 1178 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.079 both need to play this because I'm obsessed with this 1179 00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:25.320 fucking game. Mike tell us about Tales of Iron two 1180 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:28.039 Whiskers of Winter. This is a little name. 1181 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.199 I played the first one. I want to say twenty 1182 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.880 twenty one, the first game I think I talked briefly 1183 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.239 about back in the day on fire Escape. Odd Bug 1184 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:44.000 Studio basically made very very Metroid light, more of a 1185 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.280 two D side scrolling Souls Born game. 1186 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.920 Feel solsy, Yeah, yeah. 1187 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:54.039 Deliberate combat, slow paced. It's the aesthetic is you're a 1188 00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:57.559 bunch of rats. You're like a rat kingdom that gets assaulted. Yeah, 1189 00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.519 there's always rats in my games. Wait, why what's the 1190 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.480 deal with the ra I think these are the only two? 1191 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:03.719 Or no, there's are mice. 1192 00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:04.719 There might be mice. 1193 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:10.719 They're cute. I feel like they're mice versus bats and 1194 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.199 bats are the bats? 1195 00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.000 Are the bat guys in this? It was frogs last time, 1196 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:15.960 the frog kingdom you were fighting against. But now it's 1197 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:17.760 it's very like if you were just to look at 1198 00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:19.679 the art for the game, he'd be like, oh, that's cute, 1199 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:21.880 but like someone gets their head chopped off and you 1200 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.440 see a spine and there's a blood around it. 1201 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.239 Within the Yeah, but it. 1202 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:31.280 Plays out like a cross between the Witcher three because 1203 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.239 there are monster hunts here where you're following these side 1204 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:40.119 quest mythical beasts around the map. Some Metrovenia light elements 1205 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.280 you do unlock like new tools to get around different areas. 1206 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:43.960 Uh. 1207 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.440 Souls born combat and that's reductive. 1208 00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:48.599 Just by that, I mean it's very deliberate, and once 1209 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.159 you commit to an attack, you're the animation is going 1210 00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.000 to play out, uh for better or worse. 1211 00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:56.840 But there's also like. 1212 00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.519 Monster hunter vibes in the sense that the big you 1213 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.559 kill and the enemies you kill and the biomes you're 1214 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.440 going to are reflected in your armor, so you're getting 1215 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:10.639 a lot more different kinds of armor and weapons in 1216 00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:11.039 this game. 1217 00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:12.519 There are a lot of trade offs to each one. 1218 00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:16.360 There's elemental weaknesses, but generally you're going out into the 1219 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:21.199 world coming back and you're rebuilding the like the mouse 1220 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.519 Kingdom or rat Kingdom, and you're building back up your hub, 1221 00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:27.639 which is very satisfying. There's not really like a tree. 1222 00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:30.400 You're upgrading things along you're just like going out into 1223 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.320 the world to get each of these major buildings restructured 1224 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.559 at your place. But it really makes the first game 1225 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.440 feel more like a proof of concept or a demo, 1226 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.400 because this is a pretty big game, like deceptively big. 1227 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.000 The more I play it, the more I don't know 1228 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.000 how close to the end I am. I'm in like 1229 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:49.119 the fifth big biome. 1230 00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:53.360 Do you have all your stuff? Like, you've rebuilt your 1231 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.320 four different you have your cook, you have your smithy, 1232 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.519 you have your I think there's four that you have to. 1233 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:03.880 Get, the armorer and the no the smithy, the cook, 1234 00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:09.480 the grosser, and there's one more I forget something like that. 1235 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.559 But I have those finished. 1236 00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:14.719 But there's several There's still a decent amount of question 1237 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.440 marks on my armor because they show you it's like, oh, 1238 00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.679 here's the hunter tree for your armor. Here's the bone 1239 00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.199 armor tree. It's a very monster hunter. So I still 1240 00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.119 have question marks at the bottom of those. So I 1241 00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.159 either haven't found the beast in a side quest or 1242 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:29.320 haven't gotten there in the story. 1243 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.760 But so many side quests too, where they're like asking 1244 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.119 you to do things. I haven't found any of these 1245 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.280 things yet, but I was just curious your experience. In 1246 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.519 one of the first areas, there was like a guy 1247 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.800 who lost his glasses and I'm just like trying to 1248 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:44.760 find the glasses. There's another guy who's on. 1249 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:45.400 The fishing poles. 1250 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:50.000 Yeah, so there's lots of different places for you to 1251 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:51.880 find things for people, but I haven't found any of 1252 00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:52.639 that stuff yet. 1253 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:54.800 I found the fishing pole. And once you find the 1254 00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:56.960 fishing pole, that leads into this whole other part of 1255 00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:57.559 that side quest. 1256 00:52:57.559 --> 00:52:58.760 I actually like those the most. 1257 00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.440 Those are also when they lean into the Metroidvania aspects 1258 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.199 of it, where you really have to look for those, 1259 00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.440 but if you ask townsfolk, they'll kind of point you 1260 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.880 in the right direction, and like it's it reminds me 1261 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:11.960 of like Zelda. It's like if you get stuck, talk 1262 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:17.079 to townsfolk, they'll give you hints. But I love the combat. 1263 00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.199 The mob's enemy mob variety. They throw it you really 1264 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.719 makes you. It's a pretty typical like, oh, if they 1265 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:24.880 flash red, you have to dodge it. If they flash yellow, 1266 00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:28.239 you can counter it. It's really crunchy. When you hit 1267 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.679 someone with a power attack, you really hit. It feels great. 1268 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.000 The counter attacks when you tie them perfectly, and then 1269 00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:34.880 you also dodge the next dude and then you It 1270 00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:39.159 feels great the panter recognition and the bosses. The boss 1271 00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.599 spectacle is really impressive as well, just like the first 1272 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:46.159 few major bosses. I was the scope and scale of them, 1273 00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:50.280 I was. It made me. The game feels very double 1274 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:54.159 a throughout, but it feels like they really upped the 1275 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:55.320 budget from the first game. 1276 00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:58.519 They also put a lot of energy into the Perry system, 1277 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.280 which I think is really interesting because like, this is 1278 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.760 a very difficult game. This is a complicated and tough 1279 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.400 game to get through, and they don't give you a 1280 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.920 lot of health. You have potion that you can refill 1281 00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.840 at very few stations or berries, and sometimes I would 1282 00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.199 do it. I would finish a boss on like the 1283 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:20.840 skin of my teeth, and then there would just they 1284 00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:22.679 would just throw an enemy at me before I could 1285 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.360 get my next fill station, and it's like, I have 1286 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.679 one chance to get this done. And it's usually what 1287 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.360 they're really encouraging you to do is perry. If you 1288 00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.960 get your pery right, not only do you obviously not 1289 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.840 take damage, but they fall over and they're prone, and 1290 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:40.239 it's like the best time that you can do a 1291 00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.800 lot of fish. Yeah, you could fuck them up with 1292 00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:45.920 the proper parry. But I just had to say, like, 1293 00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.719 for I like really suffered through Sekiro, Like I'm not 1294 00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:51.920 a pary person. I really I really suffer with parrying. 1295 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.800 This game is I think the first time I got parrying, 1296 00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:57.800 I was like, Okay, they have a little they have 1297 00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.760 a little warning sign. The animation is clear and if 1298 00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:02.880 you do it, you get a huge reward. And I 1299 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:05.119 was grateful for the Perry's system. 1300 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:06.920 And this now stupid question. 1301 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.079 I did download this and start this, and everything you're 1302 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.679 saying you're boasting about this sounds intriguing to me. But 1303 00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:14.719 like I started it up and it was like, I 1304 00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:16.559 feel like it was like ten minutes of just like 1305 00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:19.880 very serious narration about the lore of a rat kingdom, 1306 00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.199 and it was just like I can't fucking do this, 1307 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.880 and I just turned it off. So like it is like, bitch, 1308 00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.079 how much of that is there? Because like you're giving 1309 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.199 me take these rats? Seriously, you're giving. 1310 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.760 Me PTSD from metaphor. Because it was not ten minutes 1311 00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:34.199 of intro in this game. 1312 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.719 I got it, got through the intro, and then it 1313 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.880 was like, oh, here's like systems, like let's just start 1314 00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.360 throwing like a bunch of like oh that, yes, didn't 1315 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:45.360 talk at you, And it's like this has just taken 1316 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:46.440 a lot to get into here. 1317 00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.920 Uh. I definitely think they keep introducing like oh, you're 1318 00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.400 rebuilding your kingdom. There is a certain point where the 1319 00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.159 gameplay overall loop will come more into focus. It's like, 1320 00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.360 all right, I'm going out to these different biomes to recruit. 1321 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.000 That's even get attacked. Did you even let the bats attack? 1322 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.079 How did you get yes, I'm talking to you? 1323 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:09.280 I played. 1324 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:11.719 Look, is there like you know, like certain games are 1325 00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.000 like a ractophobia mode where it's like spiders will turn 1326 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:15.920 into pieces of bread. Is there a way that I 1327 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:18.079 can just they can be dudes instead of rats? Because 1328 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:20.519 I just can't take the like a rat kingdom seriously, 1329 00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:21.760 like rat kings. 1330 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:23.639 They're rats the whole game. 1331 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:24.639 That's ridiculous. 1332 00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.079 I don't know, I am bread. 1333 00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:29.920 It's just a bread kingdom. 1334 00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:35.000 That's being a serious rat lore. 1335 00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.519 And I think you're getting You're getting the hollow Night 1336 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:40.280 treatment because I think dan Is like severely judged this 1337 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:42.960 game based on one type. 1338 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:44.960 That's why That's why I said it was a stupid thing. 1339 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.719 Is like I I realized when I was going off 1340 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:50.079 of nothing. I was just like, this seems stupid. I 1341 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:50.880 need to get out of here. 1342 00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:55.440 You are denying yourself. I think one of the best 1343 00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.360 games of the year, and I think it will come 1344 00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.960 up and so you probably should get it another play. 1345 00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.800 I have adored this game, and it is the reason 1346 00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:06.280 that I've only played a limited amount of a Vowed. 1347 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:12.920 I think it is phenomenal artistically and for combat reasons. Mike, 1348 00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:14.519 I agree with you. I think the boss fights are 1349 00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:17.199 spectacular and they're so well earned, and you get this 1350 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:21.159 really fun animation when you kill them. It's sick. It's 1351 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.760 really cool to like chop off a snake or like 1352 00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.760 Znik's head, or like kill one of these like giant 1353 00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:31.239 giant frog bosses. But what I've really personally enjoyed I'm 1354 00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:33.639 curious to your take on, is like it's the world 1355 00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:36.199 building for me, and I really do think that it's 1356 00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:41.719 similar to Hollow Night. There are stunning backgrounds in this game, 1357 00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:46.360 with mysteries galore of like why does this tree have 1358 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:48.840 all these like pieces of paper, or like why are 1359 00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:51.639 there tentacles of like a boss? Where is it? What 1360 00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.039 is this giant ship in the background, and how is 1361 00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:55.760 this going to impact me, and most of the time 1362 00:57:55.840 --> 00:58:00.800 so far it hasn't. But like mystical world building behind me. 1363 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:02.960 Yeah, Dan, I don't know if this answer your question, 1364 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.920 but it does. Once you get past like your kingdom's attacked, 1365 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.280 it's destroyed, and you're basically going out on a revenge 1366 00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.079 quest to rebuild your town. You're now the rat king 1367 00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:13.880 and you're the second biome you go to is a 1368 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.239 bunch of like owl people, owl people that live in 1369 00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.480 a forest that you're helping out, and then you're recruiting 1370 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:20.599 someone from there to come do this in your kingdom. 1371 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.280 Then you go to like the bog marshlands where the 1372 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.880 frogs are, but you're the engineer. The smithy you're trying 1373 00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.239 to recruit is like this alcoholic engineer who. 1374 00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:30.519 You can't save him. Talk to me. 1375 00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:33.119 I feel like the problem with me. 1376 00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:34.760 I feel like it's the Lord of the Rings thing 1377 00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.199 where it's like because I think the Hobbits are idiots, 1378 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:38.960 and I'm just like, why would I root for these 1379 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:39.639 little idiots? 1380 00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:42.320 And it's like I just mice. Like if there was 1381 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:43.639 like a bunch of mice bad. 1382 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.000 Guys, I'd be like, yeah, sure, but like I don't 1383 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.320 want to root for a little mice, dumb ass that 1384 00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.480 like I want to play as something cool, like I 1385 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:51.239 don't know cool. 1386 00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:57.079 He's a fucking motherfucker. He kills but we kills them. 1387 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:01.039 You think you were tough looking Danny. 1388 00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.000 One wants you No, I want to be a condrac man. 1389 00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:07.679 It's very impressive that a little wee mouse can kill 1390 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.800 a giant snake monster. Wish like the the like tiny 1391 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:13.519 little weapons. 1392 00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:15.039 Literally, it's just Game of Thrones. 1393 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:18.840 But they just like Gary was just like normal people 1394 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:23.199 instead of little idiots. Super normal for sure. 1395 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:29.679 No talking about the people like you. Yeah, this is 1396 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:30.480 the problem. 1397 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:33.719 I understand you guys cannot enjoy Lord of the Rings 1398 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.880 because all these guys look like little helpless idiots. 1399 00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.000 And I had the same feeling, like a bunch of mice. 1400 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:38.480 What do we why? 1401 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:39.360 Why are they cool? 1402 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:42.039 Those A those little helpless idiots A bow to no one, 1403 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.679 and B the rats cut off people's heads and kill 1404 00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:50.599 giant snakes. You don't have to if you don't want 1405 00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.079 to play the game, that's fine. I feel like I should. 1406 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:55.159 I just need to get past this. You're not going 1407 00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:56.239 to there's you're a rat. 1408 00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.280 The whole game a therapy. 1409 00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:00.800 I would rather be a rat than Elijah Wood. 1410 01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:03.719 Yeah, same, I agree. 1411 01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:06.639 There, yea, I will say so Buggy. 1412 01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.840 I don't love how because you are backtracking a lot 1413 01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.519 in this game. On the one hand, I kind of 1414 01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:17.719 appreciate that the enemy mobs respawns can be randomized. When 1415 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:22.000 I was in the forest, i went back. I also 1416 01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.320 don't think the monster hunts are the side ones are 1417 01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.840 always that great. It's less involved boss fight in more 1418 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.920 whittle away. It's health down a third, then he's going 1419 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:32.920 to go somewhere else in the map, go get another 1420 01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:36.000 the second third of his health down. Some of those 1421 01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.639 are just not interesting. You're just fast traveling around the world, 1422 01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:42.199 going to do the same fight again. But also going 1423 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.440 back to what I was saying, the enemy mobs that respawn, 1424 01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:46.800 I think they vary them, so when you are backtracking, 1425 01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.920 it's not oh, it's three of those giant beetles right 1426 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.239 now that I need to fight. I know how to 1427 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.079 fight them, just dodge them, and then once they they 1428 01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:58.239 trip and slide, I can hit their unshielded side. By 1429 01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:00.840 varying the respawns, I think they make it a bit 1430 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:04.519 more unpredictable from area to area. However, when I'm trying 1431 01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.119 to not that I'm really grinding in this game. But 1432 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.360 there's been a several times I'm like, oh, I almost 1433 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:11.920 have this entire armor set. I want the last I 1434 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:13.719 want like the bone shield. So I have the entire 1435 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.519 bone armor set. It looks awesome, it works, it's got 1436 01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:20.280 electrical resistance or something like that. Really helpful. This area 1437 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:21.960 I'm going to, I know exactly where there are a 1438 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.239 few beetles because I need some beetle shells, And it's like, well, 1439 01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:27.159 the spawns have randomized and there's not beetles there, So 1440 01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.239 you're just kind of wandering in certain times unless I'm 1441 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:34.639 completely misunderstanding how those respawns work, which is possible. No. 1442 01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:38.039 I think I also couldn't find full sets. What I 1443 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.679 think is interesting about the sets is that, like you 1444 01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:44.159 were saying, they're all elemental damage, so you're ultimately playing Pokemon, right, Like, 1445 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.840 if you're going to fight someone who does heavy ice damage, 1446 01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.760 you want to make sure that you have the right attack. 1447 01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.599 If you are attacking someone with a sword that does 1448 01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:58.960 ice damage against an ice enemy, it does nothing. You're 1449 01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.119 wasting your fucking. 1450 01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.400 The snake is like fire you need and what when 1451 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.119 you use the weakness. It really fucks them up. 1452 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.960 Like set, Yeah, it fucking kills them. And so I 1453 01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:11.639 think is fun is that by literally, by changing my 1454 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:15.880 armor set and my weapon to be the right element, 1455 01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.320 I was kind of melting certain enemies. That makes me 1456 01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.800 feel like a golden god. Going back to those areas, 1457 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:24.880 I think what it's trying to get you to do is, hey, 1458 01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:28.159 remember how hard this area was once upon a time. Well, 1459 01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:31.280 now that you have the right set of armor for it, 1460 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.360 they kind of you can just really I don't don't 1461 01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:35.800 think you're cheesing it, but you're kind of you can 1462 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.000 burn through it a lot faster, which I think makes 1463 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.239 me feel really smart and good at the game. 1464 01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:43.320 Also, Yeah, I mean the like the balance once you 1465 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:45.199 start getting more and more tools, it's like the balance 1466 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:49.039 between the bow enemies. It's like enemies will start reacting 1467 01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:50.719 and they're like, they know you're using the bow. You 1468 01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:52.639 just kill them, that's their weakness. So they'll start charging you. 1469 01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.079 So then you're dodging, you're countering, you're using your spell 1470 01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:58.119 just recharts. So you're shooting this giant fireball at a 1471 01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:02.039 giant force. Yeah, one of your four spells just recharged 1472 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:03.000 and you're shooting that at them. 1473 01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:05.000 It's kind of like oblivion. 1474 01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:06.480 Abow. 1475 01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:07.679 Yeah you're just. 1476 01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:10.880 Getting these Yeah, you're just getting these like spell I 1477 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:14.400 just realized I also have the same spell systems. Yeah, 1478 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.239 it's really funny just to have these spells. In addition, 1479 01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:19.519 Dan by all means you should like this. 1480 01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:21.559 I think I probably will. If I give it a shot, 1481 01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:22.280 I probably will like it. 1482 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.679 I think mechanically it's your jam the. 1483 01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:26.760 Like serious storytelling. 1484 01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.599 If this answer your question really does not stick around, 1485 01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:32.320 it becomes literally more just like hey, go get this 1486 01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:35.800 person who can rebuild this aspect of your castle, bring 1487 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.000 them back. Okay, I don't think it's overly cute. Really 1488 01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.360 throughout the owl character is a bit you're cute. 1489 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:44.320 I think it's just the issue that they're mice. 1490 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:46.719 Do you not like rodents like in real life? 1491 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.119 No, it's it's really I mean when I say, it's 1492 01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:50.360 like the same thing as like the Lord of the 1493 01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:51.840 Rings thing, where it's like I think if Lord of 1494 01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.480 the Rings didn't have Hobbits and it was just following 1495 01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:56.679 like Vigo Mortensen trying to kill a big evil guy, 1496 01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.280 I'd probably be into it. But it's just when it's like, 1497 01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.559 who are these dumb like I can't get past that. 1498 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.159 He's he's a strong motherfucker. The main character of this 1499 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.679 game is a beast, and I think if you play 1500 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:11.599 literally ten minutes of it, you'll kind of discover that 1501 01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:14.440 because there's people that you're fighting with and they just 1502 01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:16.960 a lot of people get brutally murdered in this game, 1503 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:19.039 right in front of your main character, and he's like 1504 01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:21.960 all right, and he fucks people up. So I think 1505 01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.880 you'll I think you'll come to appreciate how strong these 1506 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:25.559 characters are. 1507 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.679 If I played, I guarantee. 1508 01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:30.119 That they're not little weenie boys. They are These are 1509 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.719 like murderous mice men. 1510 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.239 So it's cool and especially hearing about the like you know, 1511 01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.800 I love like in Rogue Legacy and any game or 1512 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:40.440 Haites does this too, where you go back and you're 1513 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:42.079 like leveling up your hub and stuff like that. Like 1514 01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:43.519 I'm a sucker for that type of stuff. So like, 1515 01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.159 I have no doubt that if I just got past 1516 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:46.800 my stupid thing, I would enjoy it. 1517 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.239 Yeah, it's still it's still a bit rough around the edges. 1518 01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:53.960 Certain mechanical things like the grappling hook, the the like 1519 01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.400 I don't know how to even describe it. The hit box, yeah, 1520 01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.840 or to recognize, like to give you the prompt is 1521 01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.159 you have to like if you run too far and 1522 01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:05.199 I'm at a certain point when you're backtracking, I'm just 1523 01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:08.039 sprinting around the world fast traveling and running back to Oh, 1524 01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:09.159 I remember there was a chest there. 1525 01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:10.760 Oh that mine had a lot of these enemies. I'm 1526 01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:11.559 gonna go back down there. 1527 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:16.159 The grappling hook I wish was a little more free form, 1528 01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:18.159 but you really need to be in its like circle 1529 01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:20.679 of influence for it to give you the button prompt 1530 01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:21.599 LB or whatever it is. 1531 01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:26.199 On controller, I have a nitpick the side quest that 1532 01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:28.519 you can take. There's like bosses per area and you 1533 01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:33.559 can replay the bosses. And I accidentally hit replay boss 1534 01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:35.280 and I don't I didn't want to, so I was like, 1535 01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:38.639 I'll just undo that quest. You can't once you accept 1536 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.159 a quest, you just have to kill the fucking boss again. 1537 01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.840 Oh and I wasn't able to undo it, and that 1538 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:44.800 really pissed me off. 1539 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:46.960 Wait, sorry, what were you trying to do that? It 1540 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:48.079 didn't let you do it. 1541 01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:51.039 Didn't let me unselect replay a boss Like I had 1542 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:54.199 a boss that you could redo the quest. You can 1543 01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.039 redo their same boss quests and I undo it. 1544 01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.760 There's also I had a boss down to or no, 1545 01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:04.119 So I had a particularly tough mob down to, like 1546 01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.480 the last enemy, and he was toward the edge of 1547 01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:10.599 the screen and I went to swing my sword or 1548 01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:14.159 axe at him whatever I was using, and it transitioned 1549 01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:16.000 the screen because I went into the next area. So 1550 01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.519 they all respawned after a pretty difficult fight that only 1551 01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:22.000 happened once so far. But like now I know why 1552 01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:24.679 they bring up barriers during boss fights, so you can't 1553 01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.840 just accidentally despawn them and respawn them. 1554 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.360 Yeah, it's you could, Like I said, you could tell. 1555 01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:35.199 It's like there's a lot of like excellent craft on 1556 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.679 display here, but there's also some oversights that maybe they'll 1557 01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:40.639 patch them out, but I don't know. It's one of 1558 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:43.199 those games I kind of like because of its rough 1559 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.199 edges in some ways. It's not a perfect game by 1560 01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:50.119 any means, but I like it a lot. I like it, Yeah, 1561 01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:55.480 for them to odd Bug Studio, for them to make 1562 01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:58.360 that first game, and I played that on Switch and 1563 01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.519 I really liked how deliberate, weighty the combat was, how 1564 01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:07.360 responsive it was, how the pattern recognition and like responding 1565 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:09.199 more quickly could feel like get you in that flow 1566 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:12.159 state after a while, but this new one like blew 1567 01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:15.360 that up a lot. It's a pretty big game for 1568 01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:17.360 especially what it seems like at first, but I like 1569 01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:17.760 it a lot. 1570 01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.639 Yeah, going back to the world building that I've really 1571 01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:25.199 liked about it. I got a couple hollow night vibes 1572 01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:30.000 from this game. Dan. I was in these corridors. There's 1573 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:32.199 lots of different ways to get into the same spaces, 1574 01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.119 so maybe it will be a like a wishing well 1575 01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:37.880 or something, and going into the well does it. Or 1576 01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:42.199 maybe there's like a tunnel system, or there's bridges and 1577 01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:44.480 at one point a boss made the bridge collapse and 1578 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:48.159 now the bridge is an entrance into these like tunnel systems, 1579 01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.000 so that's cool, right. There's like lots of different ways 1580 01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:52.679 in and out and they change based on the progression 1581 01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:57.440 and the story. And in one area I think I 1582 01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:01.559 was like, this wall seems weird. I is there a 1583 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.920 ladder here when there's nothing here? And I pushed against 1584 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:07.800 it and it was like a secret area and A 1585 01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:10.920 had two little moles, I want to say. They were 1586 01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:14.719 like hanging out and I talked to them and they're like, hey, uh, 1587 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:18.319 are you our delivery guy. We're waiting for our burgers. 1588 01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:20.479 We're really hungry. And I was like, no, I'm not 1589 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.920 your burger delivery guy. And they were like, all right, 1590 01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:25.479 well if you can, you like, if you find them, like, 1591 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:27.560 bring us our burgers. Were really hungry. There's like two 1592 01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:30.239 little mole guys hanging out, and so I'm like, okay, well, 1593 01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:31.680 I don't have any of the shit. So I leave 1594 01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:34.119 and I defeat a boss in the area, and I 1595 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:36.600 leave and I come back later, as Mike was saying, 1596 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:40.920 probably to get some armor, and I kill some shit 1597 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:44.680 down there, and I get a bag of food. I 1598 01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:47.119 get a bag of burgers, and I went, oh my god, 1599 01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:51.159 I have these moles delivery food. And I fucking door 1600 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.239 dashed this shit right to them in their little bunker, 1601 01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.920 and I delivered them their food and they put on 1602 01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:02.520 some music and we have a meal together. And in 1603 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:07.039 this very violent, very intense, I would say, extremely stressful game, 1604 01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:09.000 because it's very soulsy in the sense where you like 1605 01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:11.880 always are nervous that you might die before you get 1606 01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:15.279 your next health it was this moment of peace and serenity. 1607 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.159 We shared a meal together. I brought them their burgers. 1608 01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.439 They were really thankful I got some like fun little 1609 01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:23.000 bonuses for my character. But I think more importantly, I 1610 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.359 think I was just like, what a nice tonal shift 1611 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:26.920 that I got to have a meal with these little 1612 01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:31.119 moles and like relax for a minute. I appreciated that 1613 01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:37.039 the devs put this kind moment in this game, And 1614 01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:39.199 to me, that is something that Hollow Knight did a lot, 1615 01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:41.159 where it was like, what a stressful world, and then 1616 01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:43.039 all of a sudden you'd be like, Oh, you want 1617 01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.560 me to relax and enjoy this moment with you in 1618 01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.199 this beautiful little area. And it's just like this game 1619 01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:50.239 kind of gets that too. It just like knows when 1620 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.399 to let you chill nice. 1621 01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:55.199 Oh And I definitely had that. I did appreciate that too. 1622 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:56.760 It's so just like Graham and then it's like, oh, 1623 01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:59.039 this shopkeeper is being funny and then having a little 1624 01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:00.439 song and yeah. 1625 01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:01.279 Yeah, dad's a nada. 1626 01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:01.640 Yeah. 1627 01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:04.399 I think that this game has vibes like that, I 1628 01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:06.560 really do. I think it had its moments where it 1629 01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:11.399 wants you to relax or enjoy or mourn, which I 1630 01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:13.640 think is also really interesting. Like there's a lot of 1631 01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:16.479 fucking people die in this game, and it's brutal, and 1632 01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.119 I kind of started getting a little off put. Every 1633 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:20.600 time someone was like, I need you to help me 1634 01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:23.239 find my brother, I'd be like, your brother's fucking dead, Bud. 1635 01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.960 We all know that, and we would just constantly like 1636 01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:32.279 find these dead family members and deal with it. But like, 1637 01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.319 every once in a while you will actually save someone. 1638 01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:40.039 More often than not, they're dead, but it feels really 1639 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:44.520 good to help someone find their kid or their brother 1640 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.199 and actually bring them back, and they're extremely grateful, and 1641 01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:51.840 it's meaningful because in this world, people die. They throw 1642 01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:55.199 people away very very quickly in this game, So it's 1643 01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:58.159 sick to save someone's life. It's sick to deliver burgers, 1644 01:10:58.680 --> 01:10:59.960 and it's sick to kill a snake. 1645 01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:03.479 Yeah, I gotta go back and finish it. I think 1646 01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:03.960 I'm like. 1647 01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:07.319 I've heard it's like twelve hours total. 1648 01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:09.079 It's really not huge huge too. 1649 01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.720 Okay, Yeah, it makes the first game seem short, short, 1650 01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.039 but it's still not like A. It like Double A 1651 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:15.399 is even pushing it. 1652 01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.479 I think it depends on how difficult you find it 1653 01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.039 as well, because I've struggled on certain bosses and put 1654 01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:23.039 like a like an hour into a people, but other 1655 01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:25.319 places I've kind of been able to breeze through, but 1656 01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:28.239 I'd like to finish it by the next time we 1657 01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:31.800 talk as well. My playtime is ten hours. I don't 1658 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:35.239 even think I'm I don't think I'm as far as. 1659 01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:37.840 You, so yeah, I must be close. I'm about that 1660 01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:38.319 as well. 1661 01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:42.680 But yeah, but I'm stupid, so I feel like I'll 1662 01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.439 have to to really burn through. I was struggling with 1663 01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:46.359 some of those fights. 1664 01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:52.800 Another new game. I've played a lot of Sieve seven 1665 01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:55.800 at this point. I don't think I love that game. 1666 01:11:56.239 --> 01:12:00.319 Oh no, I've heard problems with the launch of this game, 1667 01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:02.800 and I'm curious what you think about it, because I've 1668 01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.680 heard a lot of people say that maybe it came 1669 01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.119 out too early, it was like bud here something. 1670 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:10.119 I don't have any technical problems with it. I know 1671 01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:13.439 people are like not loving the UI. I don't think 1672 01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:16.800 it's as exhaustive with its satorialization and CIVI six. The 1673 01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:20.039 Civilipedia you could just hover over anything and it would 1674 01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:21.560 kind of explain it. This you need to dig a 1675 01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:26.680 bit more. I for those who don't know the basic 1676 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.199 The big thing here is that whereas in past civilization 1677 01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:32.640 games you would pick a civilization, you pick ancient Egypt 1678 01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:36.600 with the leader would be Cleopatra, let's say, Or you'd 1679 01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:40.960 pick America and the leader would be Teddy Roosevelt. Here 1680 01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.079 you're picking a leader who's going to be your leader 1681 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:48.920 throughout the ages the eras. However, you're changing the civilization 1682 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.399 each time based on what you were doing in the 1683 01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:53.920 previous one. So what they're trying to do is lean 1684 01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.680 more into the emergent gameplay, Like, oh, here's how you'd 1685 01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.960 in the age of antiquity, you were really obsessed with expansion. 1686 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:04.600 So at the beginning of the Age of Exploration, here 1687 01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:08.239 are a bunch of civilizations to choose from because you 1688 01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:11.199 were so obsessed with expansion. You can now go with Mongolia, 1689 01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:15.800 whose militaristic, militaristic and expansionist, or you can kind of 1690 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:17.840 shift course because you were also going a bit more 1691 01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:20.399 into trying to like build more banks and your economy. 1692 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:26.760 So here's the califits, et cetera. So, like you're they're 1693 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:30.399 trying to, basically, I think, introduce more emergent gameplay into 1694 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:32.560 it and how it evolves. So you'll have these cool 1695 01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:36.479 water cooler like, well, I'm Ben Franklin, but in the 1696 01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:42.920 modern age, he's in Charge of Russia, like it's cool 1697 01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:46.479 on paper, and I like, that seems right up my alley. 1698 01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:50.479 And this game is very good for ACCESS has always 1699 01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:52.479 stressed the one more turn mantra, like they want you 1700 01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:55.319 to stick around for one more turn. CIV seven is 1701 01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:59.199 very fucking good at that, more so than you know 1702 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.960 the the joe of each for SIEV game is like, 1703 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.279 wait for the first expansion. That's when the game really 1704 01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:06.920 becomes what it's supposed to be with Gods and Kings 1705 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.920 in SIB five or Rising Tide, which whatever it was 1706 01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:14.800 with SIEV six. But I really have a hard time 1707 01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:18.000 putting this game down, and the more I played it, 1708 01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:21.399 the more I realized it doesn't leave that much room 1709 01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:24.760 for intentionality. I think my favorite parts of SIV five 1710 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:28.560 and six were when I had a plan. I was like, Okay, 1711 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:30.960 I'm gonna take over this island chain, this archipelago because 1712 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:32.760 it has a ton of natural resources I want. It 1713 01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:38.239 has like Wales, and it has like prime fishing areas, 1714 01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:40.039 and it would be great to build up the rest 1715 01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:42.319 of my civilization and kind of become like my hub 1716 01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:44.720 for naval if I need to go to war with 1717 01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:48.399 my navy. The fun of civilizations is when like that 1718 01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:51.079 plan goes awry and some other huge new objective comes 1719 01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:53.159 up because fucking Gandhi is being a dick on your 1720 01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:54.319 east flank. 1721 01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:55.720 So now it's like, well, now. 1722 01:14:57.079 --> 01:15:00.520 Now he's become like I have a vendetta against him, 1723 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:05.399 So fuck that whole archipelago gasoline whaling plan. I'm going 1724 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.439 I'm going to build up my eastern front. I make 1725 01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:11.600 plans in SIV seven, and the game just does not 1726 01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:14.039 give me the room to see them through it all. 1727 01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:16.920 It's like, oh, here's a new narrative thing. You have 1728 01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:20.520 to choose between letting these immigrants in or turning them away, 1729 01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:25.359 or oh, this world leader, the city state leader like 1730 01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:29.960 of Sparta, wants you to help them in this minor skirmish. 1731 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:33.600 Do you or do You're not? Like each turn, I'm like, okay, okay, 1732 01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:36.920 I gotta focus. I'm going to I'm going to war 1733 01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:41.000 against Confucius. He's been he's been like putting pressure on 1734 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.319 me politically. He's turning a lot of the other leaders 1735 01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.760 against me. His agenda keeps changing for the worst, and 1736 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:49.600 he's hostile against me. The game is so obsessed with 1737 01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:52.319 this emerging game plan, giving me new scenarios at such 1738 01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:57.119 a breakneck pace that I never feel as if I'm 1739 01:15:57.159 --> 01:16:00.319 steering toward anything. Any goal I set the game doesn't 1740 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:02.319 give me a chance to reach. I really have to 1741 01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:05.079 ignore everything the game's doing in order to do that. 1742 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.600 So I don't think it's just a matter of an 1743 01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:11.640 expansion coming along. I think they like, it's not a 1744 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.239 UI think for me, it's a tuning of the core 1745 01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:16.359 gameplay loop that I think this game needs for me, 1746 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:19.800 because I think I've played a decent amount of it. 1747 01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:23.279 I'm like fifteen hours in two play sessions or sorry, 1748 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:25.279 three play sessions, so there were long sessions. They were 1749 01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.359 enjoyable on the surface level, but when I like reflected 1750 01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.359 on them or just thought back, I was like, wait, 1751 01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:31.520 what did I do? What am I doing? When I 1752 01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:37.359 reload that campaign, it was really just like ADHD more 1753 01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:43.439 than like actually planning out my civilization. So it kind 1754 01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:46.079 of feels empty right now, even though there's a lot 1755 01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:49.600 going on. It's a very complex game. It's many parts 1756 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:51.720 of it are extremely well crafted, and they carried over 1757 01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:54.479 a lot of cool things from SIV six from a 1758 01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:57.000 city building aspect. I love this game already. I think 1759 01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.479 they still need to tune things there, but they just 1760 01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:02.079 need to like get out of my way. More often 1761 01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:05.319 it's back to like the pace of a SIEV five, 1762 01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:10.319 where I'm actually working toward building up my nuclear supply 1763 01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:12.279 because godh he's doing the same and I need some 1764 01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.399 sort of deterrent so he doesn't just bomb my cities 1765 01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:19.720 like it. Uh yeah, it's just overload the notification to 1766 01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:24.600 pop up every turn. It's they need to scale back 1767 01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:26.279 for me to really enjoy this game. 1768 01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:28.239 But there is a lot of cool stuff there. 1769 01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:30.720 I and if for acxis has proven anything they can 1770 01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:35.600 do that x chosen like every expansion for at the 1771 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:37.880 first expansion they release of every game, it's like, oh, 1772 01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.000 this is what the game should have been. I just 1773 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:42.399 you know, put fifteen hours into it before that expansion 1774 01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:46.880 came out. So if anybody's like on the fence about it, 1775 01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:50.079 and if you're you really like seeing a leader and 1776 01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:53.199 a civilization through and setting out a goal for yourself 1777 01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:57.279 and keeping it in sight even when other cool stuff 1778 01:17:57.319 --> 01:17:59.560 pops up, this is probably not your game. This game 1779 01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:02.520 really is going to like be pulling you in eighteen 1780 01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:06.079 different directions, and even when you do commit to one direction, 1781 01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:07.880 I feel as if it's like, wait, but there's also 1782 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:10.720 all this other cool stuff going on. Come come see this. 1783 01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:13.239 I feel more like a tourist than a leader of 1784 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.399 a civilization, which is a huge problem for me in 1785 01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.640 a game where the fantasy is building up this empire 1786 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:25.680 or cultural entity or world economy. So yeah, I'm hopeful that, 1787 01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:29.840 you know, they'll be fixing it or tweaking it, so 1788 01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.199 to speak. And I appreciate what they're trying to do, 1789 01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:33.880 and I think there's still a cool idea that they 1790 01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:37.399 can get closer to. They just need to like ease 1791 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:42.600 off a bit. What else are you playing? Dan? 1792 01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:44.000 Uh? 1793 01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:47.520 Game about digging a hole? Yeah? 1794 01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:48.399 Is that what's called? 1795 01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:52.159 Yep, you dig a hole? 1796 01:18:52.199 --> 01:19:00.239 In a game so perfectly named? Since uh yeah, that's 1797 01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:02.359 it's always. 1798 01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:07.039 After I'm talking about, I know, strategy, something really deep 1799 01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:09.640 where it's like the whole time, I'm just having flashbacks 1800 01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:12.439 to uh and Gifted Class. That was the one game 1801 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:14.800 we would have on the computers where we play CIV too, 1802 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:17.840 And I remember, like, again, I'm easily the dumbest person 1803 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:19.720 in that class because like everybody else was really into 1804 01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:21.680 it and talking about diplomacy and all that stuff, and 1805 01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:23.840 I would get on there, and it's like, why is 1806 01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:24.720 this not Command of Conquer? 1807 01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:24.960 Right? 1808 01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:27.640 Like, how do I build the tanks? How do I 1809 01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:29.640 build the cure offs? And like and it just kept 1810 01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:31.960 like so from CIV to I've never understood that series. 1811 01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:33.720 So the whole time you're describing that, I'm thinking about 1812 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:35.439 how it was just way too much for me. Yeah 1813 01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:36.880 you tossed to me and it's like, oh yeah, game 1814 01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:40.640 about digging a hole? Yeah, that's that's your speed, my speed? 1815 01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:42.119 Yeah, what is so? Yeah? 1816 01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:43.800 What is a game about digging a hole? 1817 01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:44.239 How does this? 1818 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:46.239 So you dig a hole? 1819 01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:46.680 Uh? 1820 01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.119 You I beat it in about probably an hour and 1821 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:53.840 a half on stream yesterday. And you get a house 1822 01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:57.359 and you got a backyard and there's a spot for 1823 01:19:57.479 --> 01:19:59.880 you to dig a hole. And you got a garage, 1824 01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.359 and when you go to the garage, there's an upgrade terminal. 1825 01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:06.680 There is a like sell computer, so there's like an 1826 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:08.600 upgrade bench and like a computer where you can sell 1827 01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:09.600 the shit you find. 1828 01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:11.000 Uh. That's pretty much it. 1829 01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:15.520 And the upgrades you can do are your shovel, your inventory, uh, 1830 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:18.079 your battery because your shovel is like an auto shovel thing. 1831 01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:20.239 They're like, well, probably. 1832 01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:21.960 Once you upgrade it at first, it's probably. 1833 01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:24.960 Start well, so it starts. It is an automated thing 1834 01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:26.800 with a battery and a tiny battery at first. But 1835 01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.119 it's just like and I've heard, uh, I heard the 1836 01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:31.680 next land you guys were saying it's not great on 1837 01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:33.600 mouse and keyboard because you have to click every time. 1838 01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:36.880 For the shovel controller, you can just hold the trigger. 1839 01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:39.640 So when you start, you have this tiny, dumb ass 1840 01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:41.720 little shovel and you go into your backyard. It's like 1841 01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:45.000 it's just like little tiny bits of dirt coming up 1842 01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:47.640 and it's like, ah, fuck, this sucks. And uh then 1843 01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:50.439 like every one in obviously like, oh there's a rock. Okay, 1844 01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:52.439 we're a stone. Okay, I got a stone. You take 1845 01:20:52.439 --> 01:20:54.359 the stone back to your computer. You sell a stone 1846 01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.359 for a dollar, and you can, you know, cost money 1847 01:20:57.359 --> 01:20:58.279 to get your upgrades from. 1848 01:20:58.119 --> 01:20:58.880 The upgrade. 1849 01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:00.439 People. 1850 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.039 I love it so much, un ironically, and so it's like, yeah, 1851 01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:05.479 you start and there's like a lot of stones right 1852 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:06.920 at the service and I got five stones. 1853 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:08.720 I'm gonna go sell that for five dollars. Then I'm 1854 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:09.600 gonna upgrade my thing. 1855 01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:11.520 And then you get a shovel upgrade and it's like ooh, 1856 01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.439 the radius of the thing you're digging is now much bigger. 1857 01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:17.039 It's like, oh, I'm actually okay. I'm like I'm down 1858 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.199 to my ankles in this hole. Now this is great. 1859 01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:21.479 And then you start getting further and there's like you know, 1860 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:24.439 different types of like ore, stone, iron, and as you 1861 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:26.720 get much much deeper, it's like gold, silver, platinum, diamond, 1862 01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:30.159 stuff like that, and uh as, like every upgrade you 1863 01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:32.279 get just feel so good, Like you get a jet 1864 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.279 pack because like, like I was an idiot because when 1865 01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:37.399 I was streaming to everybody said that they like did 1866 01:21:37.399 --> 01:21:39.560 a circular pattern as they dug down so they could 1867 01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:42.159 get out of the hole, and me, I just kept 1868 01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:43.159 digging straight down. 1869 01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:46.760 At a certain point, it's like I'm having trouble getting 1870 01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:47.319 out of this hole. 1871 01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:52.880 And jetpack. Yeah, and so I bought a jet pack. 1872 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:55.279 And you can just gonna get a bunch of rocks 1873 01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:56.279 and jet pack out of a hole? 1874 01:21:57.239 --> 01:21:57.399 Is it? 1875 01:21:57.439 --> 01:21:57.960 First person? 1876 01:21:58.720 --> 01:21:59.279 First person? 1877 01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.800 Dude, I guess any scratch, Yeah, yeah, And so yeah, 1878 01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:05.479 you're just going deeper and deeper, and you can buy 1879 01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:07.399 a little upgrades, like you can get like lamps and 1880 01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:09.119 stuff because it starts getting dark and you can put 1881 01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:12.039 lamps on the on the walls, and like at times, 1882 01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:14.279 like you like a little radar like metal detector thing 1883 01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:16.199 that's like, oh, you need to, you know, go in 1884 01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:18.680 this direction. You'll find like a secret little reminded me 1885 01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:21.239 of Barbarian, like a secret like hallway and it's like, 1886 01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:23.760 oh shit, there's like a treasure chest in here, and damn, 1887 01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:25.119 it's not that scary. 1888 01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:29.079 Well, there's other whole based scenarios that you could come 1889 01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:31.079 up with besides Barbarian. 1890 01:22:31.359 --> 01:22:34.520 I mean it a hallway underground and it may be 1891 01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:35.520 called holes. 1892 01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:38.880 I have not seen holes. I've seen Barbarian, but you 1893 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:40.399 got to go that. 1894 01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:43.319 You must go see Madam Zarne on the mountain. 1895 01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:45.600 What's he doing? 1896 01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.119 You should see holes? 1897 01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:50.119 But I like holes. 1898 01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:51.840 Yeah, we know, Dan. 1899 01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:53.920 Yeah, but we didn't talk about you saw Barbarian. 1900 01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:57.239 We should we talk about it? 1901 01:22:57.319 --> 01:23:01.479 Yeah, about it tonight. We always got on an episode 1902 01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:05.880 one hundred okay, gotten show or yeah, maybe I was 1903 01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:08.600 swear you might have stepped away it was great, okay, 1904 01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:09.239 or maybe. 1905 01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:12.239 We discussed it before we. 1906 01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:13.720 Did, but that was the last episode. Yeah, okay. 1907 01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:18.720 Anyway, Anyway, the game about digging a hole sounds pretty straightforward, 1908 01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:20.520 but there's jet packs, so maybe it's not. 1909 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:22.760 You get a jet pack, you get likes to get dynamites. 1910 01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:24.680 You'll get to like lava rocks and stuff like that 1911 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:27.760 that you can't dig pass and so you die. Yeah, 1912 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:29.960 there's health, and you gotta you can pay to get 1913 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:30.600 your health back. 1914 01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:33.800 It looks like a five dollars like it was. 1915 01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:38.119 It five dollars. It's worth five dollars for sure. So yeah, 1916 01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:40.439 you just just keep digging further and further. You just 1917 01:23:40.439 --> 01:23:41.119 have a good time. 1918 01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:44.880 I can see this as one of my like mental health. Like, listen, 1919 01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:47.199 I'm putting some I'm putting Simpsons on TV, and I 1920 01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:48.960 would like to play a game on the steam deck 1921 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.800 on my couch and not really give a ship. That 1922 01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:55.800 is what this says. This is Wow, you're doing powerwash Stimulator. 1923 01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:59.079 Yes, it is that. It is the whole version of 1924 01:23:59.439 --> 01:23:59.920 Wash Simulate. 1925 01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:03.640 Yeah, this is very simple, but I do I do 1926 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:07.119 like simple mechanics for a night or two. I think 1927 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:09.399 like at a five dollars price point, this is a 1928 01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:12.640 reasonable investment for someone who is maybe like stressed out 1929 01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:15.279 and wants like I consider this a cozy game. This 1930 01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:17.800 is a I could see that this is a cozy game. 1931 01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:19.800 I see it as a like dopamine game where it's 1932 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:21.439 like you get you know, if you're using the shovel 1933 01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:23.520 for so long, you upgrade to the drill, and it's 1934 01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:26.920 like it's like, oh man, this is an incredible feeling 1935 01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:27.239 right now. 1936 01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:29.239 Yeah yeah, if it brings you joy, I mean, I 1937 01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:31.720 think that's great. And I and I am an advocate 1938 01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:34.680 for like simple mechanics, right, Like I remember like when 1939 01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:37.760 I was doing my uh I forget, I was like 1940 01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:40.560 a I was like a bar made, you know, like 1941 01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:45.800 in an RPG, and I poured beers and I mopped 1942 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:48.199 the floor, and I was like, this is a nice existence. 1943 01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:52.359 You're digging a fucking hole. This isn't rocket science. You 1944 01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:55.840 go down and then maybe you sometimes once you're down 1945 01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:57.319 there long enough, you go left and right. 1946 01:24:58.920 --> 01:24:59.520 Sometimes you will. 1947 01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:02.199 Yeah, yeah, but I think it's probably pretty nice to 1948 01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:06.039 stumble across like a chest with like stuff in. 1949 01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:07.720 It, right, and they make it rare enough to where 1950 01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:08.159 it matters. 1951 01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:09.479 It's like, oh, this had a bunch of money and 1952 01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:11.199 some dynamite and some lamps in it, and it's like, 1953 01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.600 oh shit, that's great. And then it's like as you're 1954 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.079 going deeper, you come back up and you got a 1955 01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:17.439 big inventory. It's like I got twenty fucking things of 1956 01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:19.439 gold and silver and platinum, and you cash like I 1957 01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:21.840 just got three thousand dollars from that hole where it's 1958 01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:23.680 like when you start and you're getting like three dollars 1959 01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.479 a hole. You know, it's it's very just simple, just 1960 01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:29.760 dumb dopamine mechanics. But yeah, I like that shit a lot. 1961 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:32.720 I think that's great. I think this is simple and 1962 01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:35.319 something I would probably play on like a stress like 1963 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.039 to relieve stress after a tough day is probably how 1964 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.800 I would do this. So I'm kind of in, yeah, 1965 01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:45.600 like dumbest shit, but like effective at bringing joy. 1966 01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:49.319 Yes, what does this face MIC's had for the last 1967 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:50.000 two minutes. 1968 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:53.399 I don't know. I was just like making a face 1969 01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:55.880 up that I like a person would make when they're 1970 01:25:55.920 --> 01:26:00.159 listening about a game about digging a hole. It's not 1971 01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:02.800 knocking to it. It looks I've been watching like the 1972 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:05.600 gameplay on Steam. The gifts are mesmerizing. 1973 01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:09.920 Yeah, it's five dollars. That's like that's a no brainer. Yeah, 1974 01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:12.680 Dan or no Mary, what's spirit swap? 1975 01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:13.319 Yeah? 1976 01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:17.319 So on the other end of uh, what I would 1977 01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:22.920 call like cozy relaxing games is spirit swap low five 1978 01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:26.760 beats to match three two A bit of a mouthful, 1979 01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:30.560 but as you can imagine, it is a match three 1980 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:37.399 game with lots of story and friend building mechanics. So 1981 01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:40.239 you're like a new You're like in a town. You're 1982 01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:44.000 going over to people's houses. You play a couple match 1983 01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:47.840 three versus games against them. Matching three is exactly how 1984 01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:51.000 you remember it on your phones. You match the shapes 1985 01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:54.880 and the colors. If you do that successfully, it puts 1986 01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:00.800 I don't know, immovable blocks on the opposing teams side, 1987 01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:03.439 like kind of like tetris right where it's like building 1988 01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:05.520 and if it gets too high, that person loses. But 1989 01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:07.520 they can do the same thing to you, and so 1990 01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:10.039 you have to use these special mechanics that this game 1991 01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:15.000 is constructed to help break down some of those unshakable blocks. 1992 01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:18.000 It's things like you make a diamond and then that 1993 01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:21.560 gives you a special move, or you can make a 1994 01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:23.880 square and that gives you a special move, and those 1995 01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:27.319 special moves can break up those squares and have you defeat. 1996 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.319 But they're not your enemies. These are your friends. And 1997 01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:34.199 in other ways, I actually think these are like romance situations. 1998 01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:36.640 I want to be careful comparing it too much because 1999 01:27:36.880 --> 01:27:40.720 I don't think it's like dream Daddy. But like multiple 2000 01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:43.319 times I was talking to these people and playing Match 2001 01:27:43.359 --> 01:27:45.640 three against them, and I was like, I think they're 2002 01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:48.079 coming on to me, and then like two seconds later 2003 01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.960 it was like, do you want to be romanced by 2004 01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:54.000 this character? And in all of these situations, I said no, 2005 01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:56.760 because I'm not really playing this to romance, so you 2006 01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:00.159 can say no, But I think it sounds like you 2007 01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:04.239 can say yes and romance these like hot to trot 2008 01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:07.079 little characters that are playing Match three against you. So 2009 01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:11.399 I'm a little I'm not completely understanding exactly that mechanic 2010 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:13.039 of it if it is like that type of game, 2011 01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:17.319 But you obviously can build friendships and relationships with all 2012 01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:20.279 these different towns people, and then you also get lots 2013 01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:22.560 of items, and then you can build out your cozy space, 2014 01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:27.640 so your apartment you can decorate with your own rugs 2015 01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:32.359 and lamps and elements, and so you're kind of decorating, 2016 01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:36.319 You're discovering people in the town, maybe you're romancing them, 2017 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:38.720 but ultimately you're just like playing this match three game. 2018 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.800 It's very simple stuff, Like it's never stressful. I was 2019 01:28:41.880 --> 01:28:45.880 never overwhelmed and the music, as you can imagine, is 2020 01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:48.800 lo fi. So you just kind of chillin the Lofi 2021 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:49.560 and matching three. 2022 01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:53.279 What Tetris block would you want to fuck? 2023 01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:56.640 This is square? 2024 01:28:57.079 --> 01:28:57.600 The stick? 2025 01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:02.279 No no no, no, no no no, the the block 2026 01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:06.520 the no, like, I don't even know how to describe it, 2027 01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:07.920 is l block. 2028 01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:11.119 Well there's the block. There's the block. Yeah no, not 2029 01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:15.159 the T block, the one that block like an hour. 2030 01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:17.399 The. 2031 01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:21.880 Little freak. Yeah, there's always one. 2032 01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:25.039 It's already, it's already, it looks ready to go. 2033 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:31.920 Elaborate. No, I am I really almost said something vile? 2034 01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:34.560 Please please please? 2035 01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:36.359 What was it? No? Was it? 2036 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:39.319 You can't suspense I'm not a creep. 2037 01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:41.680 I am not a creep. 2038 01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:43.720 Dan, what's this? Eternal strands? 2039 01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:46.880 You guys don't have anything else to say about. 2040 01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:50.439 Puzzle blocks. 2041 01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:54.079 There's no conversation about this. 2042 01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:56.319 I don't know. It's nice. 2043 01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:59.199 I'm just trying to move on, not from your talking 2044 01:29:59.199 --> 01:29:59.680 about the game. 2045 01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:01.479 From okay. 2046 01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:04.279 Sorry, I was holding back all of my like does 2047 01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:06.000 everything you have to have fucking in it? That thoughts? 2048 01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:09.640 So, like, I know why I didn't know that this 2049 01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:12.680 would have romance options, and in general I did not 2050 01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:17.119 want that from this game. So I didn't partake. I 2051 01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:20.880 don't want that. I said no, but I was able 2052 01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:24.199 to say no and it was very comfortable. It wasn't awkward. 2053 01:30:24.279 --> 01:30:26.680 I was just like, no, thanks, we're friends. Just the 2054 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.760 coffee and the swap three for me. So I mean, 2055 01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:31.880 you can uh not do that. 2056 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:36.520 As a puzzle game by itself? Is it good? 2057 01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:41.199 I think that it is a simple swap three game mechanic, 2058 01:30:41.439 --> 01:30:45.399 so I think it succeeds at doing swap three mechanics. 2059 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:49.479 Does it get more complicated than that? Not really, except 2060 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.079 for the as I was saying, you get those special moves, 2061 01:30:52.119 --> 01:30:53.960 which is like you've made an X out of your 2062 01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:57.600 colors or you've made a tea. There's different shapes that 2063 01:30:57.640 --> 01:30:59.560 you can make that do special moves. But I think 2064 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:01.600 it is a simple game. I don't think this is 2065 01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:05.520 like a complicated game. But I think the last thing 2066 01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:06.960 I just want to say is visually, I think it 2067 01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:10.560 is very beautiful. The art person went off making these 2068 01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:14.399 character designs. I just think they're really good looking characters. 2069 01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:16.479 And there's like this fun frog that hangs out with 2070 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.800 you as well that I think literally this does look 2071 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:22.520 like and the animation is so cute. 2072 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:28.680 This reminds me of a Goodbye Volcano High. Like the 2073 01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:33.199 art style, the character design kind of yeah, like Haities 2074 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:35.880 meets Goodbye Volcano High and people are. 2075 01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:39.000 Hot in it, like everyone's attractive. But I was like, no, 2076 01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:41.760 I didn't. I didn't want them that way. 2077 01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:46.159 Very I just always horny. Maybe I feel like you 2078 01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:47.680 bring up horny games a lot and I. 2079 01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:48.479 Can't help it. 2080 01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:50.199 There are a lot of horny. 2081 01:31:50.039 --> 01:31:53.319 Games now for the In my defense, I was never 2082 01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:57.680 like playing Haites and was like, uh, like trying to 2083 01:31:57.720 --> 01:31:59.560 get it on. I was just trying to play this 2084 01:31:59.640 --> 01:32:02.560 sick game. And then I was like everybody's hot, Like 2085 01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:05.279 why did they make all these people so hot? And 2086 01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:08.039 it was I was like, no, off put by it. 2087 01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:12.680 I was surprised and I was not prepared for how 2088 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:14.840 sexy they made all these characters. And then Spirra Swap 2089 01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:17.039 like they just kind of like made these good looking 2090 01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:19.560 workout characters or whatever. It's like someone is in the 2091 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:21.119 gym and he's wearing these like little gym shorts and 2092 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:23.000 I was like, I'm just trying to swap three sir 2093 01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:27.960 or just throwing those hams in my face. But yeah, 2094 01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.279 I don't. I mean, in my defense, what I would say, 2095 01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:32.119 is like I've learned that I don't always want to 2096 01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:34.319 be horny when I play games because I chose no, 2097 01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:37.399 I chose not to be romanced. In this game and 2098 01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:39.600 in other games. I have absolutely been like, uh oh, 2099 01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:44.760 I am now into this weird game because they've made 2100 01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:48.520 it hot. So it does happen to me. I I 2101 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:49.680 didn't mean to goon. 2102 01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:53.560 I wish horniness was merely a choice for me. 2103 01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:56.800 It's a way of life. 2104 01:32:58.279 --> 01:33:01.199 I love video games, and I'm also, you know, a 2105 01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.600 horny as as human beings will get, I just they 2106 01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:05.479 don't intertwine. 2107 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:09.119 I just don't like, I'm not against it because except 2108 01:33:09.479 --> 01:33:12.279 have you played uh what what are the I'm trying 2109 01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:14.119 to think of the game, oh, Dark Watch back in 2110 01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:17.760 the day, No, that was a horny vampire while West 2111 01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:19.239 Shooter game I'm. 2112 01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:21.359 Trying to think of, like a horny game that could 2113 01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:23.600 break most people. 2114 01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:27.439 You've never even realized was horny until I saw people 2115 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:28.000 talking about. 2116 01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:32.760 So okay, look, there was like maybe like okay, I'm 2117 01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:35.960 saying late nineties, So there's a sweet spot, a little 2118 01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:38.399 bit of you know, Anna Williams and tech in a 2119 01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:40.560 little bit of looking for the nude code and tomb Raider. 2120 01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:41.520 Yes, you know I was. 2121 01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:45.399 I was dude to teenager as a teenager like anyone. 2122 01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:48.199 But I can't say I've been horny while playing a 2123 01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:50.199 video game since the nineties. 2124 01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:52.239 I think it's been a minute. 2125 01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:54.640 I got to put the controller down every once in 2126 01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:55.000 a while. 2127 01:33:55.680 --> 01:33:59.760 Yeah, Haiti's switch in my brain. I wasn't prepared for 2128 01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:00.359 that one. 2129 01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:01.399 But it didn't get me. 2130 01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:04.479 Haities got me for I didn't. 2131 01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:06.439 Even realize that it was supposed to be horny. Like 2132 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:08.800 I beat that game and I started reading all this 2133 01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:10.319 stuff about it. I was like, oh, what, it's horny, 2134 01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:12.439 Like I just had no idea that. 2135 01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.840 Did something to me. But I I think generally I'm 2136 01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:19.000 able to ignore it as well. But I also feel 2137 01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:21.399 like I'm constantly playing games like Mike, Like I'm playing 2138 01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.880 like some kind of mouse fighting game or some kind 2139 01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:29.000 of like Orri where you're like some weird alien forest creature. 2140 01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:32.359 And it's like that's not meant to invoke anything inside 2141 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:32.600 of me. 2142 01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:34.000 That's how I feel about it. 2143 01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:36.760 It's like, this is like a rat lady, you should 2144 01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:39.359 not be horny about what is this? 2145 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:40.680 What's with them in the room? 2146 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:45.960 And yet he has a problem with rats yeah, but 2147 01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:48.800 you're fucking rats and he's been like digging holes with 2148 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:50.600 no boners. You guys are both. 2149 01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:53.079 As I'm not. 2150 01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:56.079 She's like a cat bird type something like. I don't 2151 01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:58.199 know that's what it's. It's weird when people are horny 2152 01:34:58.279 --> 01:34:59.880 for things that are supposed to look like animals. 2153 01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:04.239 You are allowed to escape our regular earthly planes from 2154 01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:06.680 time to time. Have you ever played mass effect? 2155 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.359 Like, come on, I did play all the mass effects? 2156 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:12.840 Are those horny? I know they're romance options, but I 2157 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:14.439 didn't consider them horny games. 2158 01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:17.279 Oh my god, you have no dick? 2159 01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:23.199 Should I put that on the soundboard? 2160 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:24.960 Yes? Da? 2161 01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:26.239 What's eternal strands? 2162 01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:26.920 Oh? 2163 01:35:27.039 --> 01:35:28.000 I was way hotter on this. 2164 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.800 Before every furry in the world comes to kill you, 2165 01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:34.439 I'm gonna I got no. 2166 01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:36.720 Problem with furries. They can do whatever they want to do. 2167 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:39.000 Subscribed a furry basically. 2168 01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:42.159 But I'm saying stuff's not for me doesn't mean it. 2169 01:35:42.319 --> 01:35:46.079 Does not be for Everyone's like you don't have to 2170 01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:48.840 be but there is like an element of like. But 2171 01:35:48.960 --> 01:35:51.439 if it has for and ears, you're not supposed to 2172 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:52.319 be attracted to that. 2173 01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:57.960 It's is like, well, I think it's a general rule 2174 01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:00.840 you shouldn't want to have sex with animals. 2175 01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:03.199 I don't think that's not an extreme thing, right, I 2176 01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:03.600 don't know. 2177 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:08.159 I mean, I think we're just it is a spectrum. 2178 01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:08.640 I tried. 2179 01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:10.439 I tried to move on to the next game. 2180 01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:12.399 Again. 2181 01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:14.720 Consenting adults go to town. 2182 01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:21.159 Walking around, conditioning the air, walking around screwing each other's 2183 01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:27.960 brains out. Okay, yeah, before I'm gonna what is Eternal Strands? 2184 01:36:27.960 --> 01:36:29.800 I think this is the third time I was. 2185 01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:31.880 I was way hotter on the support how it came out. 2186 01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:37.680 It's okay, this sounds much better. I'm not meaning to 2187 01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:40.319 insult this game, but it's like, it makes me think 2188 01:36:40.399 --> 01:36:42.760 of Breath of the Wild meats Shadow of the Classes 2189 01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:46.439 meets Dragon's Dogma, but I want to specifically tipper that 2190 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:48.880 with like but definitely not on that level. 2191 01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:51.199 You know. This is definitely a smaller budget, more like 2192 01:36:51.279 --> 01:36:54.000 an indie title. It is good. 2193 01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:55.960 I was having a great time with it, and I do. 2194 01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:59.119 I still think it's a really fun game, but UH 2195 01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:02.039 avowed it. It's kind of one of those things where 2196 01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:04.039 it's like, Okay, I can't imagine going back to finish 2197 01:37:04.119 --> 01:37:06.000 it now. It's a lot of the same stuff. It's 2198 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:08.199 a lot of you know, magic going out crafting, killing 2199 01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:10.439 things to you know, pick up things to upgrade your 2200 01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:12.680 gear and stuff like that, and like it's good, Like 2201 01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:14.279 it's got fun, like there's shadow of the costs of 2202 01:37:14.279 --> 01:37:16.800 stuff is fun of like hunting these big gloss eye 2203 01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:19.000 and hanging on to their wings while they're flying around 2204 01:37:19.079 --> 01:37:21.640 and hacking at them, and you know, it's the magic 2205 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:23.800 feels good. Has a bunch of weird physics stuff going on, 2206 01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:27.720 you know, like force powers and shit like that. It is. 2207 01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:29.960 It is a good game, and I was having a 2208 01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:31.479 lot of fun with it at a time where there 2209 01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:34.359 wasn't really a lot else on my plate. But again, 2210 01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.800 now that there is other stuff on my plate, and 2211 01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:42.439 Avowed is just such a bigger experience, I think it'd 2212 01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:45.960 be hard to go back to like a smaller scale. 2213 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:49.560 It's not exactly like an Avowed, definitely not, but it's 2214 01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:52.439 I just don't think I could go back at this point, 2215 01:37:52.479 --> 01:37:53.399 you know, But it's it's good. 2216 01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:54.600 It is a good game. 2217 01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:58.000 Eternal Strands kind of looks like at a glance. 2218 01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:03.119 Phoenix writing the Old Gods, the Monsters, Mortals, Phoenix Rising. Yeah, 2219 01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:04.199 it's got that look. 2220 01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:06.039 And I will say that the story it's It's very 2221 01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:08.119 like that Prince of Persian New Crown, where it's like, 2222 01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:11.399 I think I'm into everything but the story, the character 2223 01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:13.159 is the art style, And I don't even think that's 2224 01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:14.960 just like a me Dan, You're. 2225 01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:18.960 Into everything but the story, the characters in the art style. Yeah, No, 2226 01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:21.680 I mean yeah, I mean I'm just a lot yeah, thechanics. 2227 01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:22.880 Gameplay, guy, it's. 2228 01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:26.039 A fun game, you know, but it's like there's not 2229 01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:28.920 a lot going on there with with anything else outside 2230 01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:30.960 of just you know, pure gameplay loop stuff, which it 2231 01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:35.119 does well. But uh yeah, it's just hard to get 2232 01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:38.279 too excited about it. There's just you know, bigger and 2233 01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:41.720 better out there. But I'm sure this is cheaper. It's 2234 01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:43.199 so if you don't want to, if you don't have 2235 01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:44.960 game Pass, or you don't want to spend fifty sixty 2236 01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:47.359 dollars on a full fledged thing like it's a it's 2237 01:38:47.359 --> 01:38:48.239 a fun little title. 2238 01:38:49.600 --> 01:38:51.399 I would have been way hotter about this. We talked 2239 01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:52.640 about this before about. 2240 01:38:52.760 --> 01:38:54.159 Yeah, I see what you're saying. 2241 01:38:54.760 --> 01:39:02.720 Yeah, right, I think that's everything. No, yeah, rude, what 2242 01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:03.880 did I forget. 2243 01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:06.079 Under Magnolia bloom missed? 2244 01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:08.439 That does not sound like a real You made that 2245 01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:08.880 name up? 2246 01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:11.079 That's a real game that I'm going to under. 2247 01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:13.000 Magnolia bloom in the mess sounds like a game you 2248 01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:14.439 would in the name, you would have made up for, 2249 01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:15.600 like Mike's Game of the Year. 2250 01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:18.840 You said that when I was talking about there that prequel, 2251 01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:23.920 the one the predecessor under Quietest of the Night, under Something, 2252 01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:25.920 you said the exact same thing. This is the sequel 2253 01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:29.079 to that. I said that, Yeah, yeah, you said this 2254 01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:31.439 sounds like a fake game. Yeah, under Lily's Quietest of 2255 01:39:31.479 --> 01:39:32.800 the Night. And now it's Interermagnolia. 2256 01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:33.159 That's right. 2257 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:38.000 So it's a metroid Vanian ann and I actually think 2258 01:39:38.079 --> 01:39:43.680 it's pretty good. It's got some really neat mechanics where 2259 01:39:44.640 --> 01:39:48.720 you are actually not fighting. There are homuncular I'm gonna 2260 01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:53.279 try and say that right, and homuncular fight on your behalf. 2261 01:39:53.399 --> 01:39:56.159 So when you hit attack, a person like comes out 2262 01:39:56.199 --> 01:39:58.960 of you and slashes. The animation looks pretty sick and 2263 01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:01.239 you end up getting I think I think four different 2264 01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:05.000 homuncular and they each have different skills. There's one who 2265 01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:07.760 has like a gun or he's like your ranger, and 2266 01:40:07.840 --> 01:40:09.640 so when you want to shoot someone from afar, he 2267 01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:11.840 like kind of comes out of you and shoots them. 2268 01:40:12.960 --> 01:40:15.960 If you are doing a slash attack, there's one there's 2269 01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.800 this fun guy who it's a charge and so you 2270 01:40:19.920 --> 01:40:22.399 just kind of push forward and you can knock people 2271 01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.840 off guard. A guy like shoots out of you and 2272 01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:29.880 does that. So I think that's pretty neat. Visually, this 2273 01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:34.720 is not my bag. You look God, I don't know 2274 01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:37.039 if I can describe this art style, but you look 2275 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:42.039 like a little girl, very flat style drawn. 2276 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:43.760 I don't know. 2277 01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:45.680 It kind of reminds me of like Sultan Sanctuary, Like 2278 01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:52.800 it's a very simple, desaturated, sad world, but very quickly. 2279 01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:55.359 Oh and you get a wolf, which I fucking love, 2280 01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:57.920 and I'll get to that. But I think what I 2281 01:40:58.159 --> 01:41:00.840 have enjoyed about it is that very quickly this game 2282 01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:04.279 ramped up and gave me several homunculi that allow me 2283 01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:06.439 to play this game in lots of different ways. And 2284 01:41:06.520 --> 01:41:09.439 you can upgrade your characters with different skill tree sets. 2285 01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:12.119 They can be quite different, and so I feel like 2286 01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:14.199 my build will be different than somebody else's build. I 2287 01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:17.600 can have my person have a totally different type of gun, 2288 01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:20.199 or my ranger can actually shoot out like these like 2289 01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:23.279 spiral moves that attack in a very different way. You 2290 01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:25.439 get lots of different mechanics. You can have a double 2291 01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:27.880 handed hammer type weapon, or you can be quick with 2292 01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:31.399 like slasher swords that are faster but they do less damage. 2293 01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:36.079 And I was dashing and double jumping faster than I 2294 01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:39.560 uh before. I was like, I'm frustrated. I want to 2295 01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:42.520 have another move. This game is constantly giving you your 2296 01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:45.239 next move, your next upgrade, your next skill set that 2297 01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:47.640 lets you progress the game. So I liked the speed 2298 01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:50.960 and the progression of this game. I also like the map. 2299 01:41:51.920 --> 01:41:54.000 I will say I've had like a couple like, oh, like, 2300 01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:57.199 this map is so big, but it's cool that the 2301 01:41:57.319 --> 01:42:00.439 map is taking you all over the place. Because it 2302 01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:03.199 is so big, there's lots to discover, and in that 2303 01:42:03.319 --> 01:42:06.520 Metroid venue sense, you'll be like, I can't get past 2304 01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:09.239 this wall. This is so annoying. Within like thirty minutes, 2305 01:42:09.279 --> 01:42:12.039 you'll probably have figured that out and we'll now get 2306 01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:14.439 past that part. So it doesn't tease you for too long. 2307 01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:17.760 It lets you get lots of secret doors that open 2308 01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:22.239 up quick paths and fast you know, just fast ways 2309 01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:24.479 of fast travel so that you can you can move 2310 01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:27.119 in the area quickly. I I'm trying to see how 2311 01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:29.720 like far I am in it, I want to say, 2312 01:42:29.720 --> 01:42:34.119 I'm probably I'm well over six hours seven hours in, 2313 01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:37.920 so I am really liking it. My problem is is, 2314 01:42:37.960 --> 01:42:39.880 like I'm really into the Mouse game, so I'm probably 2315 01:42:39.880 --> 01:42:43.399 gonna finish that first. But as a metroid Vania enthusiast, 2316 01:42:44.159 --> 01:42:47.720 I think Ender Magnolia is quite good and worth playing. 2317 01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:50.000 And you know, if you're like I don't know what 2318 01:42:50.119 --> 01:42:51.760 else to play, I've been playing this game with a 2319 01:42:51.800 --> 01:42:55.439 whole for like three days, Like, give Ender Magnolia a try. 2320 01:42:55.479 --> 01:42:57.359 I think it's a fantastic metroid vania. 2321 01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:00.239 Yeah, I've ever being impressed by the last one kind 2322 01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:02.680 of came out of nowhere, and there's so many metro 2323 01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:04.960 advenias nowadays, and I remember thinking that the like you 2324 01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.159 know when you talk about the different summons or however 2325 01:43:07.159 --> 01:43:08.520 you want to call them, Like, it's got an interesting 2326 01:43:08.560 --> 01:43:11.319 take on combat, Like I should check this one out. 2327 01:43:11.920 --> 01:43:14.680 Yeah, it's got a nice vibe to it as well. 2328 01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:17.600 It's sorrowful, but it's not like too depressing. And I 2329 01:43:17.720 --> 01:43:21.159 also think, respectfully, they've known when to shut up, Like 2330 01:43:21.279 --> 01:43:23.840 I've really gotten to avoid talking, and a lot of 2331 01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:26.159 this game, a lot of it is you can just 2332 01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:29.640 like ZipZap through, like you know all of your humunculized 2333 01:43:29.720 --> 01:43:33.199 backstory and get to the fighting. So I also respect 2334 01:43:33.239 --> 01:43:36.199 that about this game. It knows its place. Let me 2335 01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:37.319 fight the boss. 2336 01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:40.439 Nice cool. 2337 01:43:40.920 --> 01:43:45.520 I think that is everything. Pretty sure. I don't need 2338 01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:48.880 to talk about Dragons Dogma two. They finally uncapped the 2339 01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:51.079 frames on console. 2340 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:52.479 So I went back, Oh that's big, Okay. 2341 01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:55.520 I still really like that game a lot. I like 2342 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:57.600 it about as much, but now it's not fucking chugging. 2343 01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:00.520 I played like twenty hours of or Less a few weeks. 2344 01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:03.000 That's one of those where I, yeah, I got code 2345 01:44:03.079 --> 01:44:05.600 for PlayStation and I played it a little bit and 2346 01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:07.399 I have the pro and it was like chugging, and 2347 01:44:07.479 --> 01:44:08.960 I was like I had to go back and like, 2348 01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:10.840 can I get it on PC? Like this is just 2349 01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.520 like the performance was like noticeably annoying. 2350 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:18.079 I love the Pond system. I love making my pond, 2351 01:44:18.159 --> 01:44:22.640 upgrading my pond, trading with other people's ponds. It's a 2352 01:44:23.239 --> 01:44:26.479 if you can't tell I like Ponds, it's a it's 2353 01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:29.319 a good game, so we get it. You like Ponds, 2354 01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:32.640 I have I'm a pawn addict. Are you guys wanna 2355 01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:35.560 emails or marry what what did you say? 2356 01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:36.760 I have one more? 2357 01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:37.600 You don't? 2358 01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:38.560 Are you adding stuff? 2359 01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:39.039 No? 2360 01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:40.640 I thought of another one I played. 2361 01:44:40.760 --> 01:44:44.640 Okay, wait, hold on is it I thought another one too. 2362 01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:46.319 I've been playing Warrior Land. 2363 01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:52.840 Oh wait, okay, Mary's adding it is Freezing Bulldog Assassin. You. 2364 01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:55.960 I didn't type that, I done. That's not my game. 2365 01:44:56.960 --> 01:44:57.720 What is your game? 2366 01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.640 It says it's called Crab Champions. 2367 01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:03.520 Oh my god, that sounds more like a very. 2368 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:12.960 Yeah. Crab Champions. It's a real game that I played. 2369 01:45:14.359 --> 01:45:17.039 With some of my coworkers for fun. This game is 2370 01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:23.239 from twenty twenty three. Uh, it's a oh god, it's 2371 01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:29.039 a crab third person crab shooter. They drop you off 2372 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:32.439 on an island. You have to kill everything once you've 2373 01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:36.479 Once you've cleared the island, you get three treasure chests. 2374 01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:38.479 You pick which treasure chests you want, which will give 2375 01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:41.680 you one upgrade, So you can choose if you want 2376 01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:45.159 to upgrade maybe your defense or your gun, or how 2377 01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:47.560 fast you shoot, or your reload speed, or a million 2378 01:45:47.640 --> 01:45:50.439 other things. There's actually so many different types of things 2379 01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:55.199 you can upgrade, and then each island gets progressively harder. 2380 01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:58.000 I think I died on Like island. Forty six or 2381 01:45:58.039 --> 01:46:00.399 something like that. So eventually, like it gets so fucking 2382 01:46:00.520 --> 01:46:03.239 hard that it is very difficult to get through. But 2383 01:46:03.319 --> 01:46:06.920 your first like ten twenty, maybe even thirty islands, like 2384 01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.760 you can kind of start churning through, but you're building 2385 01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:13.640 your crab load out over time. Over time, you build 2386 01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:17.960 like maybe someone who's so fast with one giant bullet gun, 2387 01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:21.239 or maybe you have like two shooters and you're like 2388 01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:25.800 constantly like shooting out lots and lots of bullets consistently. 2389 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:30.640 But it's really it's like a simple concept, but it's 2390 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:32.720 very fun and it has co op. You can play 2391 01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:34.720 up to four people with these islands, and I think 2392 01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:35.920 it'd be fun if we played. 2393 01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:37.720 Cool. 2394 01:46:38.439 --> 01:46:41.600 I feel like you never have anything to say about 2395 01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:42.520 my games. 2396 01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:44.319 I don't. There's not much to like. 2397 01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:45.720 You guys didn't anything to say about the whole. 2398 01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:50.479 Yeah I did. I said it was spoke after Civilization. 2399 01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:54.960 Well that's oh, I'm Mary, I'm the vipiting here. No 2400 01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:58.760 one said shit after civilization. Fuck you, we suck it up. 2401 01:46:59.239 --> 01:47:04.640 You talked enough about it, and ditto to you, crab champion. 2402 01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:06.399 I can keep talking about the whole. 2403 01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:07.479 We get let's okay. 2404 01:47:07.520 --> 01:47:08.920 On the kind of three, let's all talk about the 2405 01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:11.479 alta about civilization. Dan talks, No, I don't want to 2406 01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:12.600 do that. It's not gonna be fun. 2407 01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:14.960 It's experiment. 2408 01:47:15.279 --> 01:47:18.840 I'm glad you started that. It wasn't a good idea. 2409 01:47:19.640 --> 01:47:24.319 Crab Champions, Champions, the shooting, there's a boss fight at 2410 01:47:24.319 --> 01:47:24.600 the end. 2411 01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:28.760 What is the other themes? What's the theme? What's the 2412 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:30.000 overarching are there? 2413 01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:31.560 Is there a subtext? 2414 01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:36.279 No, there's no there's no story. There's no dialogue at all. 2415 01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:39.279 You start immediately as a crab and you just start killing. 2416 01:47:39.960 --> 01:47:42.600 Let me do I'm gonna do my Waypoint host character. 2417 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:45.680 What about the meta text? 2418 01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.720 Though there is no meta text? You're a crab? 2419 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:50.960 Is there an text here? 2420 01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:53.159 What's you? 2421 01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:53.680 Guys don't know what? 2422 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:57.199 Oh god right, I forgot You're you're not normally on Waypoint? 2423 01:47:58.239 --> 01:47:59.960 Are they still around? They came back? 2424 01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:02.560 What are what are what are the what kind. 2425 01:48:02.520 --> 01:48:05.800 Of thematic undertow is there? 2426 01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:06.800 The characters? 2427 01:48:07.880 --> 01:48:10.239 It's definitely like an underdog story because you're like this 2428 01:48:10.319 --> 01:48:12.079 simple little crab and you end up taking on these 2429 01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:13.760 giant boss fights. 2430 01:48:14.640 --> 01:48:27.239 It's about it's about class disparity, yeah, capitalism, colonialism. Yeah, 2431 01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:35.279 I'm just joking. I loved Waypoint. Yeah, I don't know. 2432 01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:37.840 It sounds like a simple game, and you you didn't. 2433 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:39.119 I'm not gonna play it, but. 2434 01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:42.159 Come on, it's your crab. 2435 01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:44.640 Maybe maybe i'll play it. 2436 01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:48.760 What kind of crabs? 2437 01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:49.439 Like a normal one? 2438 01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:52.920 The red, the orange red? But you can actually change 2439 01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:57.359 your color. You can change your skin when you play. 2440 01:48:57.439 --> 01:48:59.840 You get unlockable so you can look like a green 2441 01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:02.199 leaf and stuff like that, which I think is neat. 2442 01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:05.359 But I think you just play it so that you 2443 01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:09.359 can smash into stuff and kill it. It's hard to 2444 01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:11.520 get health back, so you have to be really careful 2445 01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:15.279 taking damage over time because you don't you're never guaranteed health. 2446 01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:18.800 That's how life is. 2447 01:49:20.119 --> 01:49:20.239 Uh. 2448 01:49:20.840 --> 01:49:24.039 Yeah, maybe it's about healthcare systems. 2449 01:49:24.159 --> 01:49:25.680 The crabs under capitalism. 2450 01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:28.520 Yeah yeah, it's privatized. 2451 01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:31.800 Yeah, I like my game is to explore these things. 2452 01:49:32.279 --> 01:49:36.560 Yeah, digging a hole. It's just uh, it's uh, it's 2453 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:38.760 about how all of us just are trying to escape 2454 01:49:39.239 --> 01:49:43.319 reality capital All right, you've done enough are the crabs? Gay? 2455 01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:46.399 I just don't like it. 2456 01:49:46.520 --> 01:49:46.880 Could be. 2457 01:49:48.760 --> 01:49:53.239 Want about emails to do that all the time? Do 2458 01:49:53.279 --> 01:49:54.479 you want to read some emails? 2459 01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:55.279 Sure? 2460 01:49:55.600 --> 01:49:58.560 Yeah, Okay, we're gonna get into emails. 2461 01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:00.439 But first, and I'll mention this again at the end 2462 01:50:00.439 --> 01:50:04.640 of the episode, but both Vinnie and I, Vinnie being 2463 01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:07.000 over at Next Lander, have been talking about a show 2464 01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:11.199 we've been doing. We have several episodes recorded. We are 2465 01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:15.159 getting closer to ready launch. We are looking at March third, 2466 01:50:16.239 --> 01:50:19.159 twenty twenty five. That is basically next week it's fire 2467 01:50:19.239 --> 01:50:22.720 Escapes off week. We're going to launch the show. I 2468 01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:24.920 mentioned this a few episodes ago, but basically Vine and 2469 01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:28.479 I are doing two co op total war Warhammer three campaigns. 2470 01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:30.439 We couldn't come up with a better name, so I 2471 01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:33.439 think the name is. For the fire Escape series it's 2472 01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.079 Mike and Vinnie Save the World, and then for Next 2473 01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:38.000 Lander it's Mike and Vinnie Destroy the World. 2474 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:40.199 Or Vinnie and Mike. 2475 01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:42.239 I don't know. You know, Vinnie, he's an ego maniac. 2476 01:50:42.239 --> 01:50:43.640 If I say Mike first, he'll freak out. 2477 01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:46.760 Younger. Is he like a like TikTok kid or what's 2478 01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:47.920 his Vinnie's deal? 2479 01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:52.960 Uh? He does some stuff on Chive and snap check. 2480 01:50:54.159 --> 01:50:57.880 But yeah, if you're already subscribed to fire Escapes video 2481 01:50:58.039 --> 01:51:00.680 tier on Patreon, you will have access to this. It 2482 01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:05.560 is a top tier exclusive series for us, you will 2483 01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:08.399 see our whole series. We're basically doing that campaign every 2484 01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:10.199 other week. We're going to put a new episode up 2485 01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:13.439 on fire Escape in our off weeks when there's no 2486 01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:17.319 new podcast episode. If you want to see the evil 2487 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:20.640 campaign that Vinny and I are also playing in parallel, 2488 01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:25.239 go subscribe to Nextlanders. I believe it's their ten dollars tier. 2489 01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:28.439 They do a lot of bonus stuff over there that 2490 01:51:28.720 --> 01:51:31.319 we will be posting the evil campaign. So if you 2491 01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:32.640 just want to stay on fire Escape, don't want to 2492 01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:35.560 worry about Nexslander and Vinnie, you'll still see Vinnie. We'll 2493 01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:38.640 also not miss an episode of Mike and Vinnie Save 2494 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:40.840 the World. But if you want to see both, go 2495 01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:45.760 subscribe Nextlander. Basically we're planning it so the next Lander 2496 01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:48.640 episodes will go up when in the off weeks from 2497 01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:51.560 fire Escapes episodes. 2498 01:51:52.039 --> 01:51:54.960 So it's been fun to have both to follows. You're 2499 01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:55.760 not missing anything. 2500 01:51:55.800 --> 01:51:58.399 If you're only subscribed, you're you're missing another campaign if 2501 01:51:58.439 --> 01:51:59.840 you want to see it, but you're not separate show. 2502 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.920 The series itself is not jumping to another channel, correct. 2503 01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.880 Yeah, but check out Next Landers tiers as well. They 2504 01:52:06.920 --> 01:52:07.800 do great stuff over there. 2505 01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:10.520 I'm frequently on a podcast they do called Never Been 2506 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:12.760 a Better Podcast, and that is basically just a beast 2507 01:52:12.800 --> 01:52:17.039 Cast reunion podcast, and so it's me Abby Backler, Alex Austin, 2508 01:52:17.239 --> 01:52:20.119 Vinnie just shooting the shit about whatever. So they got 2509 01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:22.119 good stuff over there. Check them out as well as 2510 01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:23.279 checking out our Patreon. 2511 01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:27.479 That's awesome. I just am such a fan of those 2512 01:52:27.560 --> 01:52:29.720 guys and they do great work. So it's awesome to 2513 01:52:29.800 --> 01:52:34.760 see you, Mike working with them for some Patreon exclusive content. 2514 01:52:34.800 --> 01:52:36.920 I think that's awesome for everybody, A win win. 2515 01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:39.520 We're having fun already. We've got a few episodes banked 2516 01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:43.439 and some funny stuff has already happened that Vinnie was 2517 01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:45.760 not aware was in the game that I was hoping. 2518 01:52:46.159 --> 01:52:49.479 So it's been fun. But anyway, for emails, as usually, 2519 01:52:49.479 --> 01:52:51.640 you can rite into firescape cast at gmail dot com 2520 01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:57.319 for questions, comments, concerns, which we take very seriously. Don't 2521 01:52:57.399 --> 01:52:59.960 pass over at all. You want to send in questions 2522 01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:01.479 to be read on the show that is fires kip 2523 01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:05.760 Cast at gmail dot com. This first one tonight from 2524 01:53:06.720 --> 01:53:09.760 doc Hensla Dan. I think this makes sense for you 2525 01:53:09.880 --> 01:53:11.800 to read it considering the content. 2526 01:53:12.399 --> 01:53:15.560 Okay, hey guys, so I recently fell down a nineties 2527 01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:19.800 movie action marathon. This weekend, after getting off of shift 2528 01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:22.920 at the hospital, I watched con Air, The Rock, Heat, 2529 01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:25.399 and Bad Boys. I've seen all of these movies before, 2530 01:53:25.479 --> 01:53:27.199 but at the age of thirty six, it's been fifteen 2531 01:53:27.239 --> 01:53:29.520 to twenty years. Each of them had their flaws, but 2532 01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:32.319 Heat was a movie I thought, I'm so fondly that 2533 01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:34.640 when I watched it, I had to turn it off. 2534 01:53:35.319 --> 01:53:39.079 The plot, especially the end, was so awful. What movie 2535 01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:39.880 have you seen before? 2536 01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:47.399 Wait? What? Heat? 2537 01:53:48.079 --> 01:53:48.279 Yeah? 2538 01:53:48.359 --> 01:53:51.680 We just watched Heat recently. I absolutely it's still a 2539 01:53:51.720 --> 01:53:55.000 good movie. But I think, yeah, it's still a really 2540 01:53:55.039 --> 01:53:57.119 good movie. I didn't even see it back then. It's 2541 01:53:57.119 --> 01:53:59.319 not an astulted thing. I saw it in my thirties. 2542 01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:03.520 Watch again recently ago. It's one of me and Bong's favorites. 2543 01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:05.720 I think it holds up like it's amazer than like. 2544 01:54:05.800 --> 01:54:09.520 As much as I love the perfect film nineties action movies, 2545 01:54:09.520 --> 01:54:12.119 I feel like Heat is a different level of like 2546 01:54:12.720 --> 01:54:15.199 filmmaking and holding up. 2547 01:54:15.239 --> 01:54:16.760 There's nothing cheesy about Heat. 2548 01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:19.319 No, it's amazing. We watched it literally two or three 2549 01:54:19.319 --> 01:54:20.560 weeks ago. It's great. 2550 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:23.439 But the question here, I think is still interesting that 2551 01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:24.600 that doc had. 2552 01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:27.000 What movie have you seen before that you think of? 2553 01:54:27.079 --> 01:54:28.920 So finally, but when you watch again, it holds up 2554 01:54:28.960 --> 01:54:31.600 like Dan's toilet after a Taco Bell night Listen, Doc, 2555 01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:36.239 I've said up before, everyone makes that fucking joke about 2556 01:54:36.319 --> 01:54:38.560 Taco Bell. He's like, Oh, I'm gonna get Taco Bell, Like, oh, 2557 01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:41.359 feel bad for your toilet the next day. I haven't 2558 01:54:41.359 --> 01:54:44.079 gotten diarrhea a single fucking time from Taco Bell. I've 2559 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:47.600 had Taco Bell five hundred times probably more in my life, 2560 01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:50.960 never had a single diarrhea incident. I've had more diarrheas 2561 01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:55.560 after healthy Thanksgiving dinners where I ate vegetables as a 2562 01:54:55.680 --> 01:54:58.399 child than I ever did a Taco Bell. So between 2563 01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:01.000 not like and heat and thank Taco Bell screws up 2564 01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:02.520 my toilet. I don't know how I feel about this. 2565 01:55:02.600 --> 01:55:03.159 Doc Inn's lock. 2566 01:55:03.239 --> 01:55:05.399 Yeah, Doc, you're not scoring points. However, you have an 2567 01:55:05.399 --> 01:55:08.680 answer a movie that I recently watched, A Man and 2568 01:55:08.720 --> 01:55:11.840 I watched I think two years ago at this point 2569 01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:15.279 that I decided is not nearly as good as I 2570 01:55:15.319 --> 01:55:16.039 thought as Drive. 2571 01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:18.960 That movie sucks. 2572 01:55:19.399 --> 01:55:21.920 I've heard that and I remember thinking it was good. 2573 01:55:22.079 --> 01:55:23.439 I'll tell you what it is. It starts off on 2574 01:55:23.479 --> 01:55:25.760 a high note. They're doing like the Coen Brothers. Not 2575 01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:28.279 much dialogue, but you see the process, you see his escape, 2576 01:55:28.279 --> 01:55:29.279 you see the bank robbery. 2577 01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:30.039 It's awesome. 2578 01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:34.399 As soon as fucking William winding Refin tries to do 2579 01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:38.000 anything with characters, it falls apart. And I love Bronson. 2580 01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:40.520 I'm not saying I dislike all his movies. Uh, but 2581 01:55:41.199 --> 01:55:43.399 it's the stuff with him. Is it Carry Mulligan or 2582 01:55:44.600 --> 01:55:50.520 Michelle Uh? I think it's Kerry Mulligan the love interest. Yeah, 2583 01:55:50.960 --> 01:55:53.880 their whole relationship where it's like this, it's just like 2584 01:55:54.039 --> 01:55:56.640 eighties pop since stuff playing while they stare at each 2585 01:55:56.640 --> 01:56:02.119 other without saying anything. Soundtrack is amazing and it's still 2586 01:56:02.159 --> 01:56:05.680 a great looking movie and like the the the cinematography, 2587 01:56:05.720 --> 01:56:06.640 but oh my god. 2588 01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:08.560 My zoom just said, are you playing music? 2589 01:56:09.039 --> 01:56:09.239 Yeah? 2590 01:56:10.159 --> 01:56:11.319 Picked that up? Yeah? 2591 01:56:12.680 --> 01:56:17.439 Are? They just stare at each other without saying anything, 2592 01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:20.000 And like college me thought it was really romantic. I 2593 01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:21.079 was like, that's what I want. 2594 01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:24.760 I want, But like, now that I watch it with. 2595 01:56:24.920 --> 01:56:26.840 Someone, I'm very deeply in love with him, Like this 2596 01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:31.000 fucking sucks, Like I hate what who thought? Also, William 2597 01:56:31.039 --> 01:56:33.800 finding Reffin said, like only God Forgives is a masterpiece, 2598 01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:37.920 and William is it William Nicholas Finding Reffin. Sorry, William 2599 01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:39.920 Friedkin is always on my mind when I say Nicholas 2600 01:56:39.960 --> 01:56:43.000 Finding rEFInd because William Freakin interviewed him for like a 2601 01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:47.239 movie podcast and Nicholas Finding Refin told him that he 2602 01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:50.880 thinks only God Forgives is a masterpiece, and William Freakin 2603 01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:51.840 laughed in his face. 2604 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:53.279 Yeah. 2605 01:56:53.279 --> 01:56:53.760 I feel like. 2606 01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:56.600 Because Drive did very well and it was well regarded 2607 01:56:56.680 --> 01:56:59.159 at the time, and then I feel like everything that 2608 01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:03.439 referenced since then has been like not loved outside of 2609 01:57:03.479 --> 01:57:04.239 Destraining Force. 2610 01:57:04.319 --> 01:57:09.520 But I I I halfway through Drive, I told him 2611 01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:11.359 at I was like, I thought this was better, Like 2612 01:57:11.439 --> 01:57:13.279 I remember this being very good. 2613 01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:14.439 No, it's her first time. 2614 01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:17.039 Isn't that the worst feeling when it's like you remember 2615 01:57:17.119 --> 01:57:19.600 something it's good, it's like, oh, this one's gonna be awesome, 2616 01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:22.600 and you can tell it's like this is yeah, very well. 2617 01:57:22.960 --> 01:57:23.159 Yeah. 2618 01:57:23.880 --> 01:57:26.760 That doesn't surprise me about Drive, I think that's a bummer. 2619 01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:30.079 But I remember when I I remember being like, there's 2620 01:57:30.079 --> 01:57:33.760 so much atmosphere, but I don't remember anything about I 2621 01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:37.199 don't remember one line or like one character development where 2622 01:57:37.239 --> 01:57:39.399 I was like, ah, that's good stuff. Like I just 2623 01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:43.000 remember the the visual style, how it looks and how 2624 01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:43.920 it sounded is how. 2625 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:44.399 I remember it. 2626 01:57:44.840 --> 01:57:46.720 I remember someone gets beat up in an elevator. 2627 01:57:47.199 --> 01:57:49.439 Yeah, he stops, he's like he stomps his skull and 2628 01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:51.720 then he looks over at Carrie Mulligan with his face 2629 01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:54.800 covered in blood, and it does that like he does 2630 01:57:54.880 --> 01:57:57.960 a slow back out of frame. It's very artistic. Nicholas 2631 01:57:58.039 --> 01:58:03.279 Vining Refin is a genius. Yeah, I think that. I 2632 01:58:03.319 --> 01:58:07.439 think that movie has aged very poorly, or it was 2633 01:58:07.439 --> 01:58:09.800 always like that and I just grew out of liking it. 2634 01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:11.840 I think that's what really happens sometimes. 2635 01:58:12.039 --> 01:58:13.760 I think it's us right, Like it's not that the 2636 01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:15.840 movie hasn't changed. The movie is the same, and we 2637 01:58:15.960 --> 01:58:17.960 are now like in a different frame of mind. I 2638 01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:20.119 think I have a good answer for this, which is 2639 01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:26.119 almost every movie that was about like trying to get 2640 01:58:26.199 --> 01:58:28.960 some in high school or there's that like era where 2641 01:58:29.039 --> 01:58:32.720 it was like uh after. I'm not going to include 2642 01:58:32.720 --> 01:58:34.239 American Pie because I think that was kind of like 2643 01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:37.000 iconic for its time, and I do actually think it 2644 01:58:37.039 --> 01:58:39.279 has some timeless qualities. But I'm going to include a 2645 01:58:39.359 --> 01:58:41.479 lot of the ones after it, including the main one 2646 01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:43.960 that I think is like to me prolific in this, 2647 01:58:44.359 --> 01:58:45.600 which is Van Wilder. 2648 01:58:46.239 --> 01:58:48.720 I never saw, Oh god, Ryan Reynolds annoys me in 2649 01:58:48.800 --> 01:58:49.760 generally so bad. 2650 01:58:50.520 --> 01:58:55.000 I think that I went through a phase watching Waiting, 2651 01:58:55.720 --> 01:59:00.199 Oh I had to and Van Wilder this was during 2652 01:59:00.399 --> 01:59:04.359 his earlier years of acting very different than where he 2653 01:59:04.479 --> 01:59:06.640 is now. But he's actually kind of the same annoying 2654 01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:09.680 character in all of his films, but in this earlier 2655 01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:12.319 genre he kind of played like the cool guy who 2656 01:59:12.439 --> 01:59:15.479 was funny and had like really good facial expressions, who 2657 01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:17.319 always got the girl in the end or something like that. 2658 01:59:17.439 --> 01:59:19.119 And there was a time in my life where I 2659 01:59:19.279 --> 01:59:25.439 was like, oh, good, another teen sex comedy where like 2660 01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.800 funny things will happen and they will, you know. And 2661 01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:31.000 I thought with this college one, it might be like 2662 01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:35.239 I don't know, just other college films of that era 2663 01:59:36.119 --> 01:59:39.239 where they would fight, yeah, they would fight with the 2664 01:59:39.359 --> 01:59:42.920 rival fraternity or whatever. But in Van Wilder and I 2665 01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:48.359 actually like stumbled across like Van Wilder references somehow on 2666 01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:49.840 the Internet and I was like, oh my god, I 2667 01:59:49.920 --> 01:59:54.399 can't believe that I watched this film where they delivered 2668 01:59:56.039 --> 01:59:59.000 like pastries to the rival frat that they didn't like. 2669 02:00:00.199 --> 02:00:03.720 And after they were eating all these pastries and had 2670 02:00:03.760 --> 02:00:07.479 finished them, they saw that the bottom of the basket 2671 02:00:07.960 --> 02:00:11.800 was it. They were like empty donuts that they had 2672 02:00:11.920 --> 02:00:15.439 jacked the dog off with and they were eating. They 2673 02:00:15.520 --> 02:00:18.760 were eating dog semen in these pastries. This is a 2674 02:00:18.920 --> 02:00:21.920 plot point. There's a plot point in the film. They're 2675 02:00:22.159 --> 02:00:26.479 showing close ups of people like eating these pastries all 2676 02:00:26.600 --> 02:00:28.560 over their face. This kind of is connected to what 2677 02:00:28.640 --> 02:00:31.880 Dan sad about earlier. And it's just like they're saying 2678 02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:34.479 like fucked up stuff while they're doing it, like, oh, man, 2679 02:00:34.560 --> 02:00:37.800 I think I've had these before, like oh, they're still warm, 2680 02:00:38.079 --> 02:00:42.439 and like I just remember I remember like somehow suddling 2681 02:00:42.479 --> 02:00:47.840 across and being like when did I this waiting? And 2682 02:00:47.920 --> 02:00:50.159 Waiting's fucked up too because they play the game where 2683 02:00:50.199 --> 02:00:51.960 they like show each other's dicks to go. 2684 02:00:52.640 --> 02:00:55.720 I had to watch it on the floor of dance basement. 2685 02:00:55.560 --> 02:00:57.840 Away by this history. But that's real stuff. 2686 02:00:58.039 --> 02:01:00.000 I don't think I've ever seen Ryan Reynolds in a movie. 2687 02:01:00.279 --> 02:01:03.119 Dan, why you made me watch Waiting on your basements? 2688 02:01:03.560 --> 02:01:04.079 I didn't. 2689 02:01:04.640 --> 02:01:07.239 It was doctor Ryan did a donation during a charity 2690 02:01:07.279 --> 02:01:09.720 stream in movie. I don't think I've ever seen a 2691 02:01:09.840 --> 02:01:14.079 Ryan Reilds movie. It's just homophone one video game where 2692 02:01:14.119 --> 02:01:14.680 we covered. 2693 02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:21.560 That no free free, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know 2694 02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:22.119 by that guy. 2695 02:01:23.279 --> 02:01:27.439 You know, he's never out of character in Welcome Marexham 2696 02:01:27.520 --> 02:01:30.439 him and Rob Mackelhoney, like Ryan Reynolds cannot not be 2697 02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:31.560 in that character. 2698 02:01:32.159 --> 02:01:34.560 Oh it's it's truly annoying. 2699 02:01:35.039 --> 02:01:35.600 I'm guessing. 2700 02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:39.840 Ah, I remember liking Jungle to Jungle in nineteen ninety seven. 2701 02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:41.279 I'm guessing that it doesn't hold up. 2702 02:01:41.319 --> 02:01:41.479 Well. 2703 02:01:42.399 --> 02:01:43.039 I never saw it. 2704 02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.319 Tim Allen is a high powered executive in New York City, 2705 02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:50.840 and uh, he goes to South America and uh, his 2706 02:01:50.960 --> 02:01:53.880 ex wife introduces him to a kid that was raised 2707 02:01:54.600 --> 02:01:56.119 in like a tribal village. 2708 02:01:55.920 --> 02:01:58.399 Oh jungle, like concrete jungle, Jungle to. 2709 02:01:58.560 --> 02:02:00.680 Jungle, and then he takes this kid was raised with 2710 02:02:00.760 --> 02:02:04.439 like a blowgo and takes him back to Manhattan. I'm 2711 02:02:04.520 --> 02:02:06.319 guessing that's not good. 2712 02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:12.479 Probably not similar storyline, probably still kicks asses in Sino 2713 02:02:12.600 --> 02:02:14.239 man I. 2714 02:02:14.279 --> 02:02:16.680 Actually holds up, but I don't know. 2715 02:02:17.039 --> 02:02:18.760 I don't like this. I just love Sean Assen, I 2716 02:02:18.800 --> 02:02:22.439 love Brendan Fraser. Uh what was the movie I was 2717 02:02:22.880 --> 02:02:27.560 speaking of high school kids trying to have sex. Super Bad. 2718 02:02:27.600 --> 02:02:33.520 That's like a weird that's so weird. That's on the soundboard. 2719 02:02:33.640 --> 02:02:38.479 No, yeah, super Bad is that's the plot point. 2720 02:02:38.479 --> 02:02:40.079 They're trying to get beer and then go to a 2721 02:02:40.119 --> 02:02:43.880 party and hook up with these with Emma Stone and 2722 02:02:44.199 --> 02:02:47.039 I don't know the other actor's name, but that was 2723 02:02:47.119 --> 02:02:50.000 like a defining movie for my high school years. 2724 02:02:50.199 --> 02:02:53.159 I like that movie still, the American Pie for like 2725 02:02:53.279 --> 02:02:55.079 the next get Yeah, I haven't watched. 2726 02:02:54.880 --> 02:02:56.399 It in a few years, and I wonder if it's 2727 02:02:57.039 --> 02:02:59.680 I don't remember enough specifics, but like I remember being 2728 02:02:59.840 --> 02:03:01.880 as smart like Apatow, like. 2729 02:03:01.960 --> 02:03:02.880 It was Judd Apatow. 2730 02:03:03.039 --> 02:03:05.399 Yeah, yeah, I remember. I would hope that holds up 2731 02:03:06.359 --> 02:03:12.039 Seth Rogan like a lot of talent there. Yeah yeah, uh, 2732 02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:16.319 he still fucking rules. I don't know what the hell 2733 02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:18.920 they're talking about. It's awesome, It is fucking incredible. 2734 02:03:20.239 --> 02:03:23.319 Uh. None other's none, No others come to mind. Like 2735 02:03:24.159 --> 02:03:27.199 I still watch Annihilation pretty regularly, and that movie's still 2736 02:03:27.239 --> 02:03:30.479 really fucking good. Actually avowed the vine stuff growing out 2737 02:03:30.520 --> 02:03:33.000 of People reminded me of Annihilation. Yep. 2738 02:03:33.000 --> 02:03:35.039 I've been thinking about Annihilation a lot during that. I'm 2739 02:03:35.079 --> 02:03:39.840 hoping because tomorrow night, Bonk and I are gonna watch 2740 02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:42.880 two thousand and one, and I haven't seen it since 2741 02:03:42.960 --> 02:03:47.600 I was high school Kubrick film obsessive, serious film guy, 2742 02:03:48.399 --> 02:03:50.880 and I remember loving two thousand and one, and she 2743 02:03:51.199 --> 02:03:53.119 thinks she's seen some parts of it, but it's been 2744 02:03:53.159 --> 02:03:54.800 forever and doesn't know if she's seen the whole movie. 2745 02:03:55.079 --> 02:03:56.399 And I think I've kind of built it up because 2746 02:03:56.399 --> 02:03:58.000 it's like it's Kubrick and it's like it's like a 2747 02:03:58.119 --> 02:03:59.880 Gama's favorite movie of all time. It's like this is 2748 02:03:59.920 --> 02:04:02.359 like awesome. So little high watched two thousand and one. 2749 02:04:02.359 --> 02:04:05.520 I'm hoping that. I mean, it's like it's probably gonna 2750 02:04:05.520 --> 02:04:07.920 be like the second oldest movie we've ever watched together, 2751 02:04:08.439 --> 02:04:09.560 behind like Casablanca. 2752 02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:12.720 It's the sixties. I mean, this is an older one. 2753 02:04:12.920 --> 02:04:15.479 So no, the Godfather Part one, wouldn't that have been before? 2754 02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:17.199 I think that was seventies. That was seventies. 2755 02:04:17.800 --> 02:04:19.359 God two thousand and one was sixties. 2756 02:04:19.640 --> 02:04:20.760 I think it was late. I want to say it 2757 02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:22.199 was like sixty nine or something like that. 2758 02:04:22.399 --> 02:04:24.920 Yeah, that's I'm amazed that you even got it when 2759 02:04:24.960 --> 02:04:25.880 you were younger Dan. 2760 02:04:28.359 --> 02:04:30.319 I don't know if I did. I think I just 2761 02:04:30.359 --> 02:04:33.600 thought Cooper was very cool and like sunbelizably. 2762 02:04:34.640 --> 02:04:37.880 If you like good cinema, you would know that two 2763 02:04:37.920 --> 02:04:42.319 thousand Space Odyssey was all about symbolism. Symbolism. 2764 02:04:42.560 --> 02:04:45.399 If you have a minute appreciation of good cinema, Yeah. 2765 02:04:45.359 --> 02:04:47.000 It's nineteen sixty eight. 2766 02:04:47.079 --> 02:04:49.479 God damn, yeahs nineteen sixty eight. Yeah, I watched it 2767 02:04:49.520 --> 02:04:54.520 a few years ago. It's like it's it's hard to 2768 02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:57.760 look at and not be mesmerized. 2769 02:04:57.960 --> 02:05:00.279 Visually, and like the audio. I remember being like, this 2770 02:05:00.439 --> 02:05:03.680 is incredible. Yeah, maybe I'll understand more now as a 2771 02:05:03.800 --> 02:05:08.439 you know, refined the symbolism attuned adult The. 2772 02:05:08.520 --> 02:05:11.520 Only other movie I would say that if I watched recently, 2773 02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:13.359 that did not hold up as well as I thought. 2774 02:05:13.399 --> 02:05:15.119 And I don't think it's bad by any means still, 2775 02:05:15.199 --> 02:05:20.319 but I did not like it follows as much when 2776 02:05:20.319 --> 02:05:21.119 I watched it recently. 2777 02:05:21.279 --> 02:05:24.760 Oh that's a bummer. I still talk really highly of 2778 02:05:24.880 --> 02:05:28.560 that movie, and I still recommend it for horror fanatics 2779 02:05:28.720 --> 02:05:33.000 as like a good vibe. I could see that it's 2780 02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:35.640 maybe slower on your second go, like, once you know 2781 02:05:35.760 --> 02:05:38.680 all the secrets, what makes it scary as you're like, what. 2782 02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:39.680 Is going on? 2783 02:05:40.239 --> 02:05:41.880 Yeah, No, I still think it's decent. 2784 02:05:41.960 --> 02:05:46.880 I think horror movies just get like go leaps and 2785 02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:48.880 bounds every time a new one comes out. And then 2786 02:05:48.960 --> 02:05:53.319 now that like Robert Eggers and Ari Astor are doing 2787 02:05:53.399 --> 02:05:56.199 their thing, everything they release is just kind of changing 2788 02:05:56.239 --> 02:05:58.560 the genre in some way. So I don't know, maybe 2789 02:05:58.600 --> 02:06:00.960 it's just like horror is just evolving so quickly that 2790 02:06:01.079 --> 02:06:02.640 it just feels a bit dated now. 2791 02:06:02.760 --> 02:06:05.479 But I mean, I've never been a big horror guy, 2792 02:06:05.520 --> 02:06:08.279 and Bonk isn't a big fan either for the most part. 2793 02:06:08.439 --> 02:06:12.319 But Barbarians, Seriously, both of us were head over heels 2794 02:06:12.359 --> 02:06:12.800 for that movie that. 2795 02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:15.720 I mean, it's so well made and it's it is 2796 02:06:15.920 --> 02:06:20.520 like extraordinary at its ability to create tension. And I 2797 02:06:20.640 --> 02:06:23.840 also think, as someone who is a horror aficionado and 2798 02:06:24.079 --> 02:06:27.800 has seen most horror films out there, one of my 2799 02:06:27.880 --> 02:06:30.600 favorite things is when you can play with the juxaposition 2800 02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:33.039 of like horror and then have a bit of laugh 2801 02:06:33.279 --> 02:06:36.199 and then back to horror, and that movie kills it. 2802 02:06:36.439 --> 02:06:38.840 Like there is genuine laugh out loud moments in that 2803 02:06:39.439 --> 02:06:42.119 in that movie, and they will also it will absolutely 2804 02:06:42.199 --> 02:06:44.680 make you shit your pants. With how scary it is, 2805 02:06:44.760 --> 02:06:46.680 but it's funny, it's playful. 2806 02:06:47.359 --> 02:06:49.560 There's so much I would say about it, about what's 2807 02:06:49.600 --> 02:06:51.199 surprising and stuff about it that like I just don't 2808 02:06:51.199 --> 02:06:52.479 want to do here because I wouldn't want to rob 2809 02:06:52.520 --> 02:06:54.680 anyone of Like you guys told me to, like don't 2810 02:06:54.880 --> 02:06:56.640 look up anything about it, and I didn't. 2811 02:06:56.760 --> 02:06:59.800 Yeah, and that helped, Like this is just a trust 2812 02:06:59.880 --> 02:07:02.960 me thing, like yeah, it's yeah. 2813 02:07:03.479 --> 02:07:06.479 I think it's really important for a lot of horror 2814 02:07:06.560 --> 02:07:10.319 films specifically because I think unlike a rom com or 2815 02:07:10.359 --> 02:07:12.520 something like that, where when you explain the plot that 2816 02:07:12.640 --> 02:07:16.239 might intrigue people, the whole point generally of horror is 2817 02:07:16.359 --> 02:07:20.760 to understand what's happening, right, Like a lot of tension 2818 02:07:20.920 --> 02:07:24.960 comes from not knowing what's going on and misdirection, and 2819 02:07:25.920 --> 02:07:29.880 this movie misdirects the viewer multiple times. So if you 2820 02:07:29.960 --> 02:07:33.000 look it up, you're not going to be misdirected and 2821 02:07:33.119 --> 02:07:35.680 you won't have the same experience as someone else. That's 2822 02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:38.640 why I feel really strongly about honestly never looking at 2823 02:07:38.680 --> 02:07:42.239 a trailer of any movie ever. I just saw Heretic, 2824 02:07:43.199 --> 02:07:46.239 which is a really cool concept of a horror movie, 2825 02:07:46.680 --> 02:07:49.039 and they totally misdirected me, and I loved it. But 2826 02:07:49.159 --> 02:07:54.279 it's it's that like he always plays like a romance 2827 02:07:54.960 --> 02:07:57.560 film lead because he's such a cute cutie Patuti. I 2828 02:07:57.600 --> 02:07:59.039 have to look up his name. You guys are gonna 2829 02:07:59.039 --> 02:08:01.960 be like, of course, Hugh Grant. He's like such a cutie. 2830 02:08:02.000 --> 02:08:04.399 But in this movie he's not a good guy. And 2831 02:08:04.479 --> 02:08:06.840 there are these door to door people talking about religion 2832 02:08:06.880 --> 02:08:09.439 and he invites them in and then like fucked up 2833 02:08:09.479 --> 02:08:11.920 stuff happens and he's like, yeah, tell me about your religion, 2834 02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:15.840 and then shit goes down. The trailer misleads and like 2835 02:08:15.960 --> 02:08:18.039 kind of like I never finished trailers. I usually go 2836 02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:19.960 like thirty seconds and be like is this for me? 2837 02:08:20.720 --> 02:08:22.520 But the trailer makes it. I thought it was gonna 2838 02:08:22.520 --> 02:08:24.039 be like Saw where he was going to like put 2839 02:08:24.079 --> 02:08:27.359 them in like fuck them situations, you know, like where 2840 02:08:27.399 --> 02:08:29.119 it's like are you going to save the three people 2841 02:08:29.239 --> 02:08:31.640 and move the train or are you gonna save one person? 2842 02:08:31.720 --> 02:08:34.520 What's better for your God? It's not that at all. 2843 02:08:34.640 --> 02:08:36.960 It's like totally different. But anyway, I actually kind of 2844 02:08:37.119 --> 02:08:40.600 liked it just because of how stressful they made it. 2845 02:08:40.720 --> 02:08:44.119 But the point I'm trying to make is I find 2846 02:08:44.159 --> 02:08:47.880 it very important to not find to not figure out 2847 02:08:47.920 --> 02:08:50.680 the plot of a horror movie, because the best parts 2848 02:08:50.720 --> 02:08:52.680 of most of the horrors that I have loved have 2849 02:08:52.920 --> 02:08:57.359 been what is this movie even about? What are they 2850 02:08:57.520 --> 02:09:00.479 trying to do? And how do they trick me into 2851 02:09:00.600 --> 02:09:03.159 figuring out what it's actually about? The substance does that really? 2852 02:09:03.239 --> 02:09:03.439 Well? 2853 02:09:03.760 --> 02:09:05.720 If you look too much shit up, you'll ruin it 2854 02:09:05.840 --> 02:09:11.359 for yourself. You will don't look up horror movies. I'm 2855 02:09:11.399 --> 02:09:13.760 telling you, just watch them and a half. 2856 02:09:14.159 --> 02:09:16.399 I will watch a trailer, like I'll do that, but 2857 02:09:16.479 --> 02:09:18.840 I don't read beyond it. Like I just showed Bank 2858 02:09:18.880 --> 02:09:20.399 the trailer for Mickey seventeen. 2859 02:09:21.720 --> 02:09:24.279 Make seventeen looks dope. I'm very excited about that. 2860 02:09:25.319 --> 02:09:27.279 We're going to see that opening weekend, and like, yeah, 2861 02:09:27.359 --> 02:09:29.159 I'll watch the trailer and that will get me in 2862 02:09:29.239 --> 02:09:31.199 the door for sure. Like, although if you say it's 2863 02:09:31.239 --> 02:09:33.439 from the director Parasite, that also would probably work. 2864 02:09:33.520 --> 02:09:34.960 But the trailer was very good. 2865 02:09:35.159 --> 02:09:38.039 There's lots of ways to hook you. I think horror 2866 02:09:38.159 --> 02:09:41.119 is a specific genre where I like to do it 2867 02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:43.840 by word of mouth. When someone says watch this horror movie, 2868 02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:46.720 I just watch it. I don't really question it, and 2869 02:09:46.840 --> 02:09:49.439 I find that that yields better results than looking up 2870 02:09:49.520 --> 02:09:53.479 stuff and then possibly having it get altered. For me, 2871 02:09:53.800 --> 02:09:57.199 it's just so important to not have that be messed up. 2872 02:09:57.760 --> 02:10:00.359 That's a special tear friend where I feel that way 2873 02:10:00.640 --> 02:10:02.800 with you guys about like Mary, you gave me the 2874 02:10:02.840 --> 02:10:04.720 hard cell on Barbarian and I was like, all right, 2875 02:10:04.840 --> 02:10:05.439 I trust Mary. 2876 02:10:05.479 --> 02:10:06.439 Mary wouldn't stand me wrong. 2877 02:10:06.520 --> 02:10:09.479 I'm just gonna go in blind Mike with games as 2878 02:10:09.560 --> 02:10:12.079 several times been like hey, trust me, just try Outer 2879 02:10:12.159 --> 02:10:14.600 Wilds or something, and led to it. So like yeah, 2880 02:10:14.680 --> 02:10:18.319 you two, like you know Ben Hansen, ten Terry. You know, 2881 02:10:18.520 --> 02:10:20.359 I've got friends that I'm like, okay, you know my 2882 02:10:20.479 --> 02:10:22.960 taste enough, I respect your taste enough where I'm just 2883 02:10:23.039 --> 02:10:24.960 going to go off your recommendation purely. 2884 02:10:25.119 --> 02:10:25.279 You know. 2885 02:10:25.960 --> 02:10:27.680 I think I have a horror movie that I watched 2886 02:10:27.720 --> 02:10:30.560 the other day that I was like, this was such 2887 02:10:30.680 --> 02:10:33.399 my jam in high school, and now I was like, ooh, 2888 02:10:33.479 --> 02:10:37.039 it doesn't hold up anymore. It was this one. Oh man, 2889 02:10:37.079 --> 02:10:38.520 you guys are gonna laugh as I try to solve 2890 02:10:38.560 --> 02:10:41.239 this riddle in real time. As I describe it, a 2891 02:10:41.399 --> 02:10:45.880 person is being stalked and they everyone around them is 2892 02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:50.479 dying because of Urban Legends, and the movie is called 2893 02:10:50.800 --> 02:10:53.079 Final Destination Urban Legends. 2894 02:10:53.960 --> 02:10:54.880 Wait, is that the name of it? 2895 02:10:55.279 --> 02:10:59.359 Yeah, it's actually okay, it's not good. That's unfortunate. I 2896 02:10:59.399 --> 02:11:01.399 watched it again and the other day it doesn't hold up. 2897 02:11:02.199 --> 02:11:06.560 But the movie Urban Legends. When I was growing up, 2898 02:11:06.720 --> 02:11:09.279 I was like, this movie's fucking so sick. Can I 2899 02:11:09.359 --> 02:11:10.800 spoil it? Or is that not cool? 2900 02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:14.520 He needs you can spoil nineteen ninety eight Urban Legends 2901 02:11:14.520 --> 02:11:15.359 starring Jared Leto. 2902 02:11:15.399 --> 02:11:15.960 I think that's fair. 2903 02:11:16.279 --> 02:11:17.000 Oh yeah, please do. 2904 02:11:17.359 --> 02:11:20.960 I forgot he was in this Okay. Urban Legends starts 2905 02:11:21.000 --> 02:11:23.399 out with a girl in the car and she's getting 2906 02:11:23.479 --> 02:11:25.479 gas on a rainy night and a guy is like 2907 02:11:26.199 --> 02:11:29.479 he has a stutter and he's he's scaring her, and 2908 02:11:30.119 --> 02:11:31.520 he's like, I need to talk to you, got to 2909 02:11:31.520 --> 02:11:34.239 come in the gas station. And then she's like, you 2910 02:11:34.319 --> 02:11:35.720 don't need to talk to me. You're trying to kill 2911 02:11:35.800 --> 02:11:37.359 me or whatever, and he's like no, no, no, that's 2912 02:11:37.399 --> 02:11:39.039 not right. But he can't speak very well, and so 2913 02:11:39.159 --> 02:11:40.880 she runs back into the car and tries to get away, 2914 02:11:40.960 --> 02:11:43.520 and as she runs away, he goes there's someone in 2915 02:11:43.640 --> 02:11:46.800 the buck seat, and there's someone in the back seat 2916 02:11:46.800 --> 02:11:50.079 with an axe and they chop her up, And that's 2917 02:11:50.119 --> 02:11:52.560 the opening sequence of Urban Legends, to which I was like, 2918 02:11:52.680 --> 02:11:55.840 what the fuck, that's so crazy. Fast forward, There's a girl. 2919 02:11:55.960 --> 02:11:59.399 She's in college. People around her start mysteriously dying. Her 2920 02:11:59.479 --> 02:12:02.319 roommate is a total goth and keeps fucking. She comes 2921 02:12:02.359 --> 02:12:05.399 home and she thinks her roommate's fucking, but she's actually 2922 02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:08.560 being like choked to death by a killer. But because 2923 02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:10.720 she thinks she's fucking, she doesn't get involved and goes 2924 02:12:10.760 --> 02:12:13.600 to sleep and her roommate dies right next to her 2925 02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:17.199 in the bed. Crazy stuff. Right then she goes on 2926 02:12:17.319 --> 02:12:19.640 a date with a guy who I think is also 2927 02:12:19.760 --> 02:12:23.319 a famous actor. I think it's like Ryan Phillippy or something. 2928 02:12:23.479 --> 02:12:27.239 It's the posters are the most like nineties stars I've 2929 02:12:27.239 --> 02:12:28.359 ever reads in it. 2930 02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:35.920 I'm telling you, I see that's the other guy. No, okay, sorry, 2931 02:12:36.000 --> 02:12:39.039 it's the blonde guy from UH. I don't want to 2932 02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:41.840 wait for our lives to be colder? 2933 02:12:43.640 --> 02:12:43.920 Doin? 2934 02:12:44.039 --> 02:12:47.600 Joshua Jackson. Joshua Jackson's in it. Josh Jackson right now 2935 02:12:48.199 --> 02:12:48.479 is in it. 2936 02:12:48.600 --> 02:12:51.079 So they go on a date and he's like trying 2937 02:12:51.119 --> 02:12:52.880 to fuck her and She's like, no, I'm not ready 2938 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:55.119 yet because I'm a prude, and he's like, whatever, you prude. 2939 02:12:55.119 --> 02:12:57.479 And he gets out of the car and the killer 2940 02:12:57.960 --> 02:13:00.760 puts a noose around his neck and strings him up, 2941 02:13:01.079 --> 02:13:03.520 but he's on top of the car. So she's in 2942 02:13:03.600 --> 02:13:06.319 the car freaking out because she can hear something squeaking 2943 02:13:06.399 --> 02:13:09.600 on the top of the car, but it's him trying 2944 02:13:09.680 --> 02:13:12.399 to get her to stay because he needs to keep 2945 02:13:12.439 --> 02:13:16.000 his feet on the car so that he doesn't get killed. 2946 02:13:16.640 --> 02:13:19.399 But it's freaking her out, so she drives the car 2947 02:13:19.479 --> 02:13:24.039 away and kills him. It's sick right in my brain. 2948 02:13:24.359 --> 02:13:26.520 As a child, when I was like a teen, I 2949 02:13:26.640 --> 02:13:28.960 was like, this movie's so fucking cool. All these deaths. 2950 02:13:29.239 --> 02:13:29.720 So sick. 2951 02:13:30.199 --> 02:13:36.119 Upon revisiting Urban Legend, this movie, it is so obvious 2952 02:13:36.199 --> 02:13:39.239 who the killer is. It is so obvious what is 2953 02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:42.479 going on, And a lot of these scenes are just 2954 02:13:42.680 --> 02:13:46.800 grossly not well put together. There's plot holes galore in it. 2955 02:13:47.600 --> 02:13:50.600 Tara Reid is like in the radio host and she's 2956 02:13:50.640 --> 02:13:54.000 constantly like giving sex advice, like leave him, honey, like 2957 02:13:54.159 --> 02:13:57.199 you need a real man, and the killer is in 2958 02:13:57.439 --> 02:13:59.920 the booth, so she's running to all these different audio 2959 02:14:00.000 --> 02:14:02.960 booths trying to avoid the killer, and the killer finds 2960 02:14:03.000 --> 02:14:06.079 her even though she locked the door. They just appear 2961 02:14:06.199 --> 02:14:09.279 in the door and they axs her to death. It's like, 2962 02:14:09.960 --> 02:14:14.680 there's no it doesn't make sense how everything happens. The 2963 02:14:14.800 --> 02:14:18.800 timelines are fucked up, there's plot holes everywhere. People are 2964 02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:20.960 just constantly dying in it. I just don't think it 2965 02:14:21.279 --> 02:14:24.439 just didn't hold up the way that I had remembered 2966 02:14:24.560 --> 02:14:28.920 this like iconic piece of cinema. So unfortunately Urban Legend 2967 02:14:28.960 --> 02:14:29.840 does not hold up. 2968 02:14:30.000 --> 02:14:32.319 But I'm guessing they got their stuff together by the 2969 02:14:32.399 --> 02:14:35.680 time the third movie Urban Legends, Bloody Mary, came out. 2970 02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:38.800 During Kate Mara, I have seen that one. 2971 02:14:39.079 --> 02:14:41.840 I don't think I ever watched one past the third one. 2972 02:14:42.119 --> 02:14:44.520 They even have Urban Legends final cut. 2973 02:14:45.159 --> 02:14:46.279 Yeah that was the second one. 2974 02:14:46.359 --> 02:14:50.199 Yeah, four point four on Rotten to Oh that's a shame. 2975 02:14:52.239 --> 02:14:58.359 I really liked these teen slashers. I also think they're generational. 2976 02:14:58.800 --> 02:15:00.920 I know what you did last summer. Very iconic for 2977 02:15:01.039 --> 02:15:04.520 me growing up like Scream, big fan of Jennifer love Hewett. 2978 02:15:04.640 --> 02:15:08.560 The Scream series is iconic, So yeah, these are important 2979 02:15:08.600 --> 02:15:10.640 to me, and Urban Legend was a part of that time. 2980 02:15:11.319 --> 02:15:14.760 Valentine I saw in theaters, which is so fucking funny 2981 02:15:15.039 --> 02:15:17.600 because there is a new Valentine horror movie coming out 2982 02:15:17.680 --> 02:15:19.800 for this generation. It just probably came out. 2983 02:15:19.800 --> 02:15:22.720 Just now, Valentine, or is it not My Bloody Valentine? 2984 02:15:23.039 --> 02:15:25.560 So the new one that just came out that you 2985 02:15:25.640 --> 02:15:27.680 are talking about is called My blood Valentine, and it's 2986 02:15:27.680 --> 02:15:30.119 about a killer that's killing couples in love, probably because 2987 02:15:30.159 --> 02:15:32.840 they're a forlorned lover. Valentine is the one that came 2988 02:15:32.880 --> 02:15:35.439 out when I was in high school, and it was 2989 02:15:35.560 --> 02:15:39.159 also about a killer that was killing people's because they 2990 02:15:39.199 --> 02:15:41.479 were a forlorned lover. And Denise Richards is in it. 2991 02:15:41.720 --> 02:15:44.039 Can I just describe this this scene, it's so sick. 2992 02:15:44.399 --> 02:15:45.920 Denise Richards is in a hot tub. 2993 02:15:46.199 --> 02:15:47.479 I think she's gone. 2994 02:15:48.640 --> 02:15:51.439 It's Valentine. Denise Richards isn't a hot tub. I think 2995 02:15:51.479 --> 02:15:53.159 she's gonna bang, but it like doesn't work out or 2996 02:15:53.159 --> 02:15:56.600 something like that. This hot tub has a glass lid 2997 02:15:57.000 --> 02:16:00.880 or like plastic lid cover. The killer scares her and 2998 02:16:01.000 --> 02:16:04.199 she falls into the hot tub and they put the 2999 02:16:04.279 --> 02:16:07.439 glass tub the lid on so she can't breathe, and 3000 02:16:07.560 --> 02:16:10.680 then they get a drill and they start drilling through 3001 02:16:11.000 --> 02:16:14.319 the lid to drill through her body, but they miss her, 3002 02:16:14.680 --> 02:16:16.760 and then she like puts her mouth on the whole 3003 02:16:16.880 --> 02:16:20.640 to suck oxygen because she can't fucking breathe this hot tub. 3004 02:16:20.880 --> 02:16:22.920 But eventually they I think they saw her. I think, 3005 02:16:23.000 --> 02:16:24.880 are they drill her. They get the right drill and 3006 02:16:24.920 --> 02:16:27.239 they drill right into her body and she dies in there. 3007 02:16:27.279 --> 02:16:31.960 It's fucking crazy. I hope you like me because I 3008 02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:41.159 could do it. Dude, Google Valentine Denise Richard's hot tub scene. 3009 02:16:42.959 --> 02:16:46.639 Mike's way ahead of you. Yeah, Dan is like I 3010 02:16:46.760 --> 02:16:49.559 watched that scene. I didn't feel a thing. I didn't 3011 02:16:49.600 --> 02:16:50.920 even know it was romantic. 3012 02:16:51.000 --> 02:16:51.040 No. 3013 02:16:51.239 --> 02:16:53.399 No, with movies, I got normal horny all the time. 3014 02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:56.719 Movies I got super horny. Most of my horny was 3015 02:16:56.760 --> 02:16:59.920 with movies. I understand that. 3016 02:17:00.159 --> 02:17:00.399 Fully. 3017 02:17:01.399 --> 02:17:02.879 My horny is movie base. 3018 02:17:04.239 --> 02:17:06.280 Okay, in Golden Yeah. 3019 02:17:06.479 --> 02:17:10.959 You're still normal anyway. I think there's a lot of 3020 02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:13.799 horror movies that probably don't hold up like I wanted 3021 02:17:13.879 --> 02:17:18.280 them to, especially from my high school era. But I mean, 3022 02:17:18.319 --> 02:17:20.120 I just still have soft spots for a lot of 3023 02:17:20.159 --> 02:17:22.840 these horror movies because when I was growing up, I 3024 02:17:23.040 --> 02:17:25.319 was like, that's fucking crazy. I can't believe you killed 3025 02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:28.639 Denise Richards like that, but I doubt it holds water anymore. 3026 02:17:29.639 --> 02:17:31.799 Ah, that was a hot tub pun. 3027 02:17:32.120 --> 02:17:34.760 But she like sucks through the hole, so yeah, she probably. 3028 02:17:37.879 --> 02:17:40.879 Okay. Well, thank you, Doc Hansler, minus the heat slander. 3029 02:17:40.959 --> 02:17:41.360 You're wrong. 3030 02:17:41.879 --> 02:17:44.760 I can't divide that note. 3031 02:17:44.799 --> 02:17:47.680 I could do this one from Jake from Media Pa 3032 02:17:47.840 --> 02:17:50.479 or is it Medea? I don't know. Hello, Escape Artists. 3033 02:17:50.479 --> 02:17:52.520 I'm a longtime email her first time listener. In twenty 3034 02:17:52.600 --> 02:17:54.760 twenty four, I made a New Year's resolution to read more. 3035 02:17:55.120 --> 02:17:57.639 I started small and set a goal to read six books. 3036 02:17:57.879 --> 02:17:59.479 I also joined a book club to make sure I 3037 02:17:59.559 --> 02:18:01.559 hit that goal. I had such a blast reading the 3038 02:18:01.600 --> 02:18:03.680 assigned books that I crushed my goal and ended. 3039 02:18:03.600 --> 02:18:04.920 Up reading sixteen books. 3040 02:18:05.639 --> 02:18:07.760 Excuse me. In the midst of this goal, there's an 3041 02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:09.920 email that came in asking for book recommendations, and Mike 3042 02:18:09.959 --> 02:18:12.200 gave some titles that I jotted down with the intent 3043 02:18:12.280 --> 02:18:14.079 to submit them to the group. I'm happy to say 3044 02:18:14.079 --> 02:18:16.399 I just finished In the Distance by Aaron and Diaz, 3045 02:18:16.440 --> 02:18:17.840 and I'm excited to hear what my group thinks of 3046 02:18:17.879 --> 02:18:18.920 it when it gets discussed. 3047 02:18:18.920 --> 02:18:20.040 In April, I love that book. 3048 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:23.479 Anyway, this twenty twenty four resolution has reshaped my thoughts 3049 02:18:23.520 --> 02:18:25.840 on reading and now it's a full hobby of mine 3050 02:18:25.920 --> 02:18:27.600 instead of something I do once in a blue moon. 3051 02:18:27.879 --> 02:18:29.520 So my question to you all is was there a 3052 02:18:29.639 --> 02:18:32.159 resolution you made in the past that ended up being 3053 02:18:32.239 --> 02:18:34.680 something you stuck to well after the year was made. 3054 02:18:35.000 --> 02:18:36.559 Thanks for all the laughs, I hope you're twenty twenty 3055 02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:41.840 five is starting out well. Jake from Media Media, Pennsylvania. 3056 02:18:43.000 --> 02:18:44.000 That's a great question. 3057 02:18:44.760 --> 02:18:44.959 Yeah. 3058 02:18:44.959 --> 02:18:47.879 I try not to do too many, just like specifically, like, oh, 3059 02:18:48.000 --> 02:18:50.120 New Year's resolutions, because I feel like that's just like, 3060 02:18:50.559 --> 02:18:51.520 you know, I don't know if you're going to do 3061 02:18:51.559 --> 02:18:51.879 something to. 3062 02:18:51.959 --> 02:18:53.680 Do it arbitrary timeline. Yeah. 3063 02:18:54.040 --> 02:18:55.040 Yeah, but I mean, you know, there. 3064 02:18:54.959 --> 02:18:56.600 Are definitely those times where it's like, you know, after 3065 02:18:56.639 --> 02:18:58.879 the holidays, you know, Okay, starting in January, I'm gonna 3066 02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:01.239 blah blah blah. And it's almost always like a health 3067 02:19:01.399 --> 02:19:04.959 or food or exercise related thing. So I feel like, 3068 02:19:05.319 --> 02:19:07.840 not necessarily just a New Year's thing, but just a 3069 02:19:08.399 --> 02:19:11.040 life long thing of trying to kind of hone in 3070 02:19:11.159 --> 02:19:14.040 what works for me in terms of eating and exercising 3071 02:19:14.079 --> 02:19:15.840 and things like that. Like you learn things, and you 3072 02:19:15.920 --> 02:19:18.000 pick things up and you ebb and flow and stuff 3073 02:19:18.040 --> 02:19:20.639 like that, and it's you know, you hope that each 3074 02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:23.799 year you're in you're out, a couple things stick with you. 3075 02:19:23.920 --> 02:19:24.040 You know. 3076 02:19:24.120 --> 02:19:26.479 It's like, oh, I found out that I like yoga, 3077 02:19:26.600 --> 02:19:28.559 so I've been doing yoga for twenty years, you know, 3078 02:19:28.680 --> 02:19:30.920 stuff like that, or the running stuff, you know, the 3079 02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:33.440 things I learned from last year with the half marathons 3080 02:19:33.479 --> 02:19:35.239 that I'm bringing into this year with the full marathons 3081 02:19:35.280 --> 02:19:38.440 and stuff. But it's rarely like specifically a like New 3082 02:19:38.520 --> 02:19:39.520 Year's resolution thing. 3083 02:19:39.600 --> 02:19:39.760 You know. 3084 02:19:40.200 --> 02:19:43.319 I'm very similar to you Dan. I almost avoid New 3085 02:19:43.399 --> 02:19:49.000 Year's resolutions because I lose. It can depress me or 3086 02:19:49.159 --> 02:19:51.719 make me sad when I break them, and so I 3087 02:19:51.879 --> 02:19:57.120 try and give myself lots of leniency with my resolutions. 3088 02:19:57.280 --> 02:20:04.000 And so you know, talking about the reading one of 3089 02:20:04.159 --> 02:20:06.239 like having six books a year, Jake, Like, that's what 3090 02:20:06.440 --> 02:20:12.000 I did, and I did not read sixteen. That's so 3091 02:20:12.120 --> 02:20:13.760 cool that you were like able to read that much. 3092 02:20:13.799 --> 02:20:16.920 I usually like barely hit my goals, So I leave 3093 02:20:17.000 --> 02:20:20.000 my goals really really loose and light, so that I 3094 02:20:20.079 --> 02:20:22.479 give myself escapes if I have something that comes up 3095 02:20:22.520 --> 02:20:24.840 in my personal life or like something happens to me. 3096 02:20:25.399 --> 02:20:27.680 A good one that I did years ago was I 3097 02:20:27.799 --> 02:20:32.120 got a fitbit through something. I think it was like 3098 02:20:32.200 --> 02:20:33.719 through like a work. It was like a prize or 3099 02:20:33.760 --> 02:20:35.399 something like that, and I was like, cool, this is right. 3100 02:20:35.440 --> 02:20:40.360 By New Year's I will walk more. And I am 3101 02:20:40.559 --> 02:20:42.879 so into walking every day now and I make a 3102 02:20:42.920 --> 02:20:45.719 point to walk every day. I've upgraded my fitbit to 3103 02:20:45.799 --> 02:20:49.600 the newest version. And it's not like I need to 3104 02:20:49.639 --> 02:20:51.440 hit a certain amount of miles or that I need 3105 02:20:51.479 --> 02:20:53.479 to go running three days a week. It's not that 3106 02:20:53.760 --> 02:20:56.600 it's my fitbit buzzes once a day at least to 3107 02:20:56.639 --> 02:20:59.040 be like, hey, you haven't walked yet today. And I 3108 02:20:59.159 --> 02:21:01.479 make a point to walk every day. It's important to me. 3109 02:21:01.600 --> 02:21:04.520 I even got like one of those like walking things 3110 02:21:04.559 --> 02:21:06.079 that I can put under my desk so I can 3111 02:21:06.159 --> 02:21:06.559 walk if I. 3112 02:21:06.600 --> 02:21:10.159 Can't underdsk treadmill. Right, that's so cool. 3113 02:21:10.239 --> 02:21:11.639 I mean I like that kind of stuff. And so 3114 02:21:11.799 --> 02:21:17.760 for me, mineor much more lenient, but walking every day, 3115 02:21:18.479 --> 02:21:22.079 making sure to read several books a year. I say 3116 02:21:22.200 --> 02:21:24.239 several because it could be ten and it could be 3117 02:21:24.360 --> 02:21:26.799 two based on how big they are. And like the 3118 02:21:26.879 --> 02:21:29.479 shit that goes down in my life. And then I'd 3119 02:21:29.520 --> 02:21:32.520 say the last one that's been really beneficial is although 3120 02:21:32.559 --> 02:21:34.879 I do go on and off of it. I had 3121 02:21:34.879 --> 02:21:37.200 a New Year's resolution I think three years ago to 3122 02:21:37.360 --> 02:21:39.840 fast and I still to this day use it as 3123 02:21:39.879 --> 02:21:44.000 an excellent method to stop snacking late at night. But 3124 02:21:44.200 --> 02:21:45.959 I can go off of it, but I go back 3125 02:21:46.000 --> 02:21:48.239 on it all the time. It's like a great system 3126 02:21:48.360 --> 02:21:50.760 for me to be like, you don't need to eat 3127 02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:55.200 snacks after ten pm every night, you just don't need it. 3128 02:21:55.319 --> 02:21:56.600 And so like that's been. 3129 02:21:56.600 --> 02:21:57.079 Good for me. 3130 02:21:57.840 --> 02:22:00.200 Yeah, I like what you said about like not going 3131 02:22:00.200 --> 02:22:02.239 too crazy. You said to like be lenient with yourself 3132 02:22:02.280 --> 02:22:04.120 on it, because like I kind of do the mistake 3133 02:22:04.200 --> 02:22:07.200 where I go way too hard too suddenly all the time. 3134 02:22:07.719 --> 02:22:09.799 And so like, you know, I finished that last half 3135 02:22:09.840 --> 02:22:12.280 marathon in October, and since then, you know, I put 3136 02:22:12.319 --> 02:22:13.680 on a lot of the weight that I lost over 3137 02:22:13.719 --> 02:22:14.200 all that stuff. 3138 02:22:14.200 --> 02:22:16.600 You know, I put on twenty five pounds since then. 3139 02:22:17.120 --> 02:22:19.000 And it's like, all right, well, I need to be ready, 3140 02:22:19.079 --> 02:22:21.280 you know, once May comes around, I'm training for the marathon. 3141 02:22:21.399 --> 02:22:24.239 So January like one of the few like strict things 3142 02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:26.239 I told myself, you know, with January was that I 3143 02:22:26.319 --> 02:22:28.920 want this to be my biggest steps month ever in 3144 02:22:29.040 --> 02:22:31.399 terms of average steps a day. And so I looked 3145 02:22:31.479 --> 02:22:32.959 back years and it's like, all right, I got to 3146 02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:34.799 be you know, my best average was when I lived 3147 02:22:34.799 --> 02:22:36.239 in New York City and I was walking all the time, 3148 02:22:36.280 --> 02:22:38.399 and I got like over thirteen thousand steps a day. 3149 02:22:38.840 --> 02:22:41.040 And so I told myself, well yeah, and I told 3150 02:22:41.040 --> 02:22:43.120 myself that, like, okay, January, you know, I'm going to 3151 02:22:43.200 --> 02:22:44.479 go for like fifteen to twenty. 3152 02:22:44.360 --> 02:22:46.040 Thousand steps a day, you know, so that way the 3153 02:22:46.360 --> 02:22:48.600 average will be the best ever. And so I got 3154 02:22:48.639 --> 02:22:50.920 I have this underdesk treadmill, and I was walking like 3155 02:22:51.200 --> 02:22:53.719 hours a day. I was walking so fucking much, and 3156 02:22:53.840 --> 02:22:55.840 it was you know, it's cold outside, can't go outside, 3157 02:22:55.879 --> 02:22:58.399 so it's just like on the treadmill hours every day. 3158 02:22:58.639 --> 02:22:59.280 And I did it. 3159 02:22:59.760 --> 02:23:04.399 I broke my step record. But now it's like the 3160 02:23:04.479 --> 02:23:06.719 intention was I was going to do that, and then 3161 02:23:06.760 --> 02:23:09.079 that was going to lead into more like cardio stuff 3162 02:23:09.120 --> 02:23:12.040 like daily you know, runs and bikes on the peloton 3163 02:23:12.079 --> 02:23:13.799 and stuff like that. But my feet are fucked up 3164 02:23:13.879 --> 02:23:15.639 now because I went too hard all of a sudden, 3165 02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:18.079 like I put on you know, twenty plus pounds. Now 3166 02:23:18.120 --> 02:23:20.360 I'm walking more than I've ever walked in my life, 3167 02:23:20.399 --> 02:23:22.600 and now my ankles and my the balls, my feet. 3168 02:23:22.639 --> 02:23:24.879 Now my plan for shita stuff is like shitty now. 3169 02:23:24.959 --> 02:23:27.120 And it's like, God, you got to find that middle ground. 3170 02:23:27.120 --> 02:23:29.120 You can't just go from zero to one hundred and 3171 02:23:29.280 --> 02:23:31.719 expect your body to be like yeah, that's fine, yeah, yeah, 3172 02:23:31.879 --> 02:23:32.440 but that's the thing you. 3173 02:23:32.479 --> 02:23:34.879 Got to learn, you know, yeah, you just I think 3174 02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:37.000 some of it is like just the mentality as well, 3175 02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:40.000 because for me, if I break a New Year's resolution, 3176 02:23:40.719 --> 02:23:43.360 I'll feel pretty bad about myself and be like, of 3177 02:23:43.479 --> 02:23:44.920 course you were never gonna do that. 3178 02:23:45.079 --> 02:23:45.200 Right. 3179 02:23:45.319 --> 02:23:48.120 If I was like read a book every month and 3180 02:23:48.280 --> 02:23:51.120 one month I miss my thing, I will quit and 3181 02:23:51.159 --> 02:23:53.280 I'll be like I'll just not do it anymore. But 3182 02:23:53.399 --> 02:23:56.159 if my if my limit is really reasonable, or if 3183 02:23:56.159 --> 02:23:59.239 I have a lot of flexibility, then all of a sudden, 3184 02:23:59.319 --> 02:24:01.920 it's like you're allowed to have an off month. And 3185 02:24:02.040 --> 02:24:04.040 this is for like everyone who needs to hear that. 3186 02:24:04.159 --> 02:24:07.559 Right now, you're allowed to have an off month. You're 3187 02:24:07.559 --> 02:24:10.000 allowed You're allowed for work to be too busy or 3188 02:24:10.120 --> 02:24:12.680 something personal to happen, or for you to just emotionally 3189 02:24:12.799 --> 02:24:16.280 or physically have an ailment of some kind and be like, shit, 3190 02:24:16.440 --> 02:24:20.000 now I need three weeks to get my shit together. 3191 02:24:20.559 --> 02:24:22.959 That's allowed. And so what I don't like about New 3192 02:24:23.040 --> 02:24:26.559 Year's resolutions is it doesn't often give you that ability 3193 02:24:26.719 --> 02:24:28.760 for you to just pick yourself back up and get 3194 02:24:28.799 --> 02:24:32.200 there again. So like give yourself that, and like fuck 3195 02:24:32.280 --> 02:24:35.719 your New Year's resolution for a second. The purpose of 3196 02:24:35.840 --> 02:24:38.760 it was just to push yourself. So take a moment, 3197 02:24:39.040 --> 02:24:42.079 get it back together, and then push yourself again, even 3198 02:24:42.120 --> 02:24:43.639 if it's a small little push. 3199 02:24:45.719 --> 02:24:49.200 Yeah. I also don't really go hard on New Year's resolutions, 3200 02:24:50.719 --> 02:24:54.719 but in the sense that, like I have had things 3201 02:24:54.799 --> 02:24:58.479 become full fledged hobbies that I did not really intend on. 3202 02:24:58.799 --> 02:25:02.159 Like I do a lot lot of indoor gardening, Like 3203 02:25:02.840 --> 02:25:07.360 much of my every single Sunday is pruning plants, repotting them. 3204 02:25:07.799 --> 02:25:09.959 We have skylights here, which is great that I can 3205 02:25:10.000 --> 02:25:10.440 make use. 3206 02:25:10.399 --> 02:25:12.399 Of that, and like you've got lots of natural light 3207 02:25:12.479 --> 02:25:13.000 in your place. 3208 02:25:13.440 --> 02:25:16.479 Yeah, so like we uh project we're doing now I'm 3209 02:25:16.520 --> 02:25:18.319 just putting hanging plants in every window. 3210 02:25:18.639 --> 02:25:19.600 But like it. 3211 02:25:21.360 --> 02:25:25.319 I'm always impressed by people who like they can play 3212 02:25:25.360 --> 02:25:28.719 an instrument, they know several languages. They have those like 3213 02:25:28.879 --> 02:25:30.920 they just went hard and got really good at a 3214 02:25:30.959 --> 02:25:32.040 few things, And. 3215 02:25:32.120 --> 02:25:33.280 I'm like, well, what are my hobbies? 3216 02:25:33.319 --> 02:25:36.360 Like I read a lot, like I'm definitely into wine, 3217 02:25:36.639 --> 02:25:38.799 but I also like, I'm like I forget that I'm 3218 02:25:38.959 --> 02:25:41.840 I also spend a lot of time like doing some 3219 02:25:42.000 --> 02:25:44.440 indoor gardening. It's just something that I enjoy so much. 3220 02:25:44.479 --> 02:25:47.040 I don't even think of it as a hobby that 3221 02:25:47.079 --> 02:25:50.159 I would put like in my bio, if that makes sense. 3222 02:25:51.799 --> 02:25:54.159 So like I definitely kind of like I think I 3223 02:25:54.239 --> 02:25:55.959 got a couple plants a few years ago, and now 3224 02:25:55.959 --> 02:25:58.079 all of a sudden, it's just like it's parts of 3225 02:25:58.120 --> 02:26:03.600 our apartment are like a jungle. But yeah, in that regard, 3226 02:26:03.680 --> 02:26:07.000 it's actually like I don't I haven't made a New 3227 02:26:07.079 --> 02:26:10.920 Year's resolution in a bit. I definitely this year have 3228 02:26:11.040 --> 02:26:13.920 already been or just like not even this year, like 3229 02:26:14.879 --> 02:26:17.280 since last fall, have been running a lot more Like 3230 02:26:17.399 --> 02:26:20.360 I'm I exercise pretty often, but like do. 3231 02:26:20.360 --> 02:26:21.719 You do outside in New York? 3232 02:26:21.840 --> 02:26:22.000 Yeah? 3233 02:26:22.120 --> 02:26:22.280 You do? 3234 02:26:22.479 --> 02:26:22.680 Yeah? 3235 02:26:23.520 --> 02:26:26.239 Is that hard with all the streets and crossing now. 3236 02:26:26.360 --> 02:26:29.200 My neighborhood, My like if I go like to the 3237 02:26:29.280 --> 02:26:32.040 south end of my neighborhood, back up, the water. The 3238 02:26:32.159 --> 02:26:36.520 water especially it's really trail, but also like I know 3239 02:26:36.639 --> 02:26:39.600 the streets well enough to know which intersections are going 3240 02:26:39.639 --> 02:26:41.559 to be dead when i'm and which ones have stop 3241 02:26:41.639 --> 02:26:46.520 signs as opposed to traffic lights, et cetera. It's yeah, 3242 02:26:46.520 --> 02:26:48.079 I wasn't really a new Year's resolution. It's just like 3243 02:26:48.200 --> 02:26:51.280 I sleep so much better on average when I'm running more. 3244 02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:54.920 I lift a lot, like a decent amount. It's just 3245 02:26:54.959 --> 02:26:58.719 like running as that extra layer to my exercise schedule 3246 02:26:58.760 --> 02:27:02.520 where I sleep really well. I get outside more even 3247 02:27:02.559 --> 02:27:07.079 when the weather's shitty, which I kind of enjoy. So yeah, 3248 02:27:07.120 --> 02:27:09.319 that's that's definitely something that I do as more of 3249 02:27:09.360 --> 02:27:13.760 a hobby now. But yeah, I haven't. I don't. I 3250 02:27:13.840 --> 02:27:16.200 don't really put much stock in the January first let's 3251 02:27:16.319 --> 02:27:18.840 get after it kind of thing. If that works for you, cool, 3252 02:27:19.399 --> 02:27:22.040 But a lot of people, yeah, yeah, and like there's 3253 02:27:22.120 --> 02:27:24.639 like a collective thing about it. Like it's like it 3254 02:27:24.680 --> 02:27:28.120 can be inspirational or like motivational for to know that 3255 02:27:28.200 --> 02:27:30.040 a lot of other people are trying and like getting 3256 02:27:30.040 --> 02:27:32.840 to the gym or cooking more, what have you, But 3257 02:27:33.000 --> 02:27:37.120 like you know, it's for me, I'm just like I 3258 02:27:37.159 --> 02:27:39.440 don't know that the month that the calendar seems arbitrary, 3259 02:27:39.520 --> 02:27:41.959 why not just like, yeah, it's sort of to Mary's point, 3260 02:27:42.120 --> 02:27:44.520 just like do it when it's best for you and 3261 02:27:44.920 --> 02:27:47.000 just go hard on it, but not too hard. 3262 02:27:47.360 --> 02:27:49.159 I think that there is just something though about like 3263 02:27:49.399 --> 02:27:51.920 it's probably not a coincidence that it's you know, January first, 3264 02:27:51.959 --> 02:27:54.200 because like the holidays, Like I was definitely you know, 3265 02:27:54.360 --> 02:27:55.719 near the end of the year where it's like okay, 3266 02:27:55.840 --> 02:27:59.159 holidays and travel and drinking and eating like shit and everything. 3267 02:27:59.319 --> 02:28:00.799 Like you know, I told myself like, you know what, 3268 02:28:00.840 --> 02:28:02.719 I'll do a strict thing. I'll do the full I'm 3269 02:28:02.719 --> 02:28:04.479 gonna be the dry January thing. And like at the 3270 02:28:04.520 --> 02:28:07.159 time that sounds so great because it's like, okay, I've 3271 02:28:07.200 --> 02:28:10.200 been indulging. It's it's the holidays, and I need just 3272 02:28:10.280 --> 02:28:13.280 like a reset button thing. And you know, January is 3273 02:28:13.280 --> 02:28:15.000 where I did get much much better aut like my 3274 02:28:15.120 --> 02:28:16.879 diet and I was just even a lot more vegetables 3275 02:28:16.920 --> 02:28:18.079 and just a lot more healthy things. 3276 02:28:18.120 --> 02:28:19.920 But I was going to do all these different things 3277 02:28:20.000 --> 02:28:22.360 and then also like a dry January, and it was 3278 02:28:22.399 --> 02:28:25.159 the thing where it was like you know, January twelfth 3279 02:28:25.319 --> 02:28:28.920 or something, it was some weekend and Hanson invited us 3280 02:28:28.920 --> 02:28:31.120 over for like a board game night, and it's like, look, 3281 02:28:31.120 --> 02:28:33.280 I'm gonna have a good time playing you know, board 3282 02:28:33.319 --> 02:28:34.600 games at Ben Hanson's. 3283 02:28:34.239 --> 02:28:36.159 Place no matter what. But like it's like it was 3284 02:28:36.200 --> 02:28:38.239 like a Saturday night. It's like it is the most primed, 3285 02:28:38.360 --> 02:28:40.360 just like, let's have a few beers while you know 3286 02:28:40.600 --> 02:28:43.360 we're doing this. And you know, obviously people that like 3287 02:28:43.799 --> 02:28:46.840 there are good reasons to stop entirely from drinking, but 3288 02:28:47.239 --> 02:28:48.719 with me, it's never been a thing that like ever 3289 02:28:48.799 --> 02:28:50.639 caused any trouble and just like caused me to get 3290 02:28:50.719 --> 02:28:52.200 kind of like a beer gut at worst, you know. 3291 02:28:52.399 --> 02:28:54.200 So it's like with that one, I kind of like 3292 02:28:54.280 --> 02:28:55.559 threw the towel in on it where it's like, you 3293 02:28:55.639 --> 02:28:57.079 know what, it's not going to kill me. And now 3294 02:28:57.120 --> 02:28:58.840 I said I was gonna do this. That and all 3295 02:28:58.879 --> 02:29:02.040 this vegetables and new diet and dry January, that's so 3296 02:29:02.280 --> 02:29:05.680 much bears the board game night. 3297 02:29:05.760 --> 02:29:08.479 You know. Have we talked about dry January on fire 3298 02:29:08.559 --> 02:29:09.079 Escape before? 3299 02:29:09.159 --> 02:29:09.840 I don't know if we have. 3300 02:29:10.399 --> 02:29:15.319 I'm kind of a snob toward not to people's faces. 3301 02:29:15.760 --> 02:29:19.120 I saw you posting some Instagram memes about a dry wine. 3302 02:29:19.760 --> 02:29:20.040 Well, so. 3303 02:29:22.479 --> 02:29:26.040 Dry January you only drink dry wine. That's funny. I 3304 02:29:26.079 --> 02:29:28.520 think you said that to me too, you little scamp. 3305 02:29:28.799 --> 02:29:32.600 Was it the Pedro Pascal Nicholas cage thing or dry 3306 02:29:33.520 --> 02:29:37.840 cabinet truck and reastling is really dry? I just I 3307 02:29:38.000 --> 02:29:43.319 don't I'm I'm gonna I get the idea of taking 3308 02:29:43.319 --> 02:29:45.920 a month off to reset, like as a cleanse. A 3309 02:29:45.959 --> 02:29:49.120 lot of people do it just to like show that 3310 02:29:49.200 --> 02:29:52.079 they can show themselves that they can and prove to themselves, 3311 02:29:52.399 --> 02:29:58.079 which is good. Yeah. I just think everybody would be 3312 02:29:58.159 --> 02:30:01.760 better off if it just presracticing moderation throughout the year. 3313 02:30:02.239 --> 02:30:05.159 Yes, Like I think that's way healthier. 3314 02:30:05.239 --> 02:30:07.559 And like everybody I know who drinks a lot and 3315 02:30:07.680 --> 02:30:10.200 then hits January and goes dry, they feel like shit 3316 02:30:10.280 --> 02:30:13.319 throughout that January, and then afterwards they're like, well now 3317 02:30:13.360 --> 02:30:14.399 I'm just back to drinking. I don't know. 3318 02:30:14.879 --> 02:30:16.280 Maybe maybe people maybe. 3319 02:30:16.079 --> 02:30:17.760 There's drinking excessively. 3320 02:30:17.920 --> 02:30:20.120 Maybe if there's people who dry January really helps them. 3321 02:30:20.200 --> 02:30:23.479 I just think if I don't see that one January 3322 02:30:23.719 --> 02:30:27.120 correcting eleven months of really bad habits. 3323 02:30:27.159 --> 02:30:28.479 Yeah, I feel that same way. 3324 02:30:28.520 --> 02:30:29.760 And again, this is a thing where it's like I 3325 02:30:29.840 --> 02:30:31.600 know people have had good success with this and everything, 3326 02:30:31.600 --> 02:30:33.760 and I'm not saying it's stupid across the bord or anything, 3327 02:30:33.760 --> 02:30:33.920 but that. 3328 02:30:35.559 --> 02:30:36.120 And things like that. 3329 02:30:36.479 --> 02:30:38.399 Yeah, yeah, like intermidt and fasting. I've known plenty of 3330 02:30:38.399 --> 02:30:40.520 people who've lost like a lot of weight on like 3331 02:30:40.600 --> 02:30:43.040 intermritten fasting. But it's a thing where it's like, Okay, 3332 02:30:43.079 --> 02:30:44.479 you do this thing for a month or two or 3333 02:30:44.479 --> 02:30:46.319 however long you do it, you lose a ton of weight, 3334 02:30:46.440 --> 02:30:48.200 that's great. But if you're not doing things that are 3335 02:30:48.239 --> 02:30:51.479 actually like changing the way you eat in your relationship 3336 02:30:51.559 --> 02:30:53.840 to that stuff and lifestyle choices, then it's like it's 3337 02:30:53.959 --> 02:30:56.479 it's a band aid and then it's gonna come off something. 3338 02:30:56.559 --> 02:31:02.520 Yeah, that the January becomes like, uh, like a sprint 3339 02:31:02.639 --> 02:31:04.639 that you get through and you just muscle through, But 3340 02:31:04.719 --> 02:31:07.360 what about the next eleven months? Like, I think it's 3341 02:31:07.479 --> 02:31:09.959 just not sustainable. Towards to your point, Dan, that's almost 3342 02:31:09.959 --> 02:31:14.600 the equivalent of running eight miles one day and then 3343 02:31:14.719 --> 02:31:17.040 walking like the thirty thousand steps to the next. It's 3344 02:31:17.079 --> 02:31:19.319 like almost going too hard. I think again, I think 3345 02:31:19.319 --> 02:31:24.040 you're just better off if like in practice moderation in 3346 02:31:24.120 --> 02:31:27.319 a way that it's like it's adding enhancing social situations, 3347 02:31:27.399 --> 02:31:29.600 but it's never really becoming a detriment. And of course 3348 02:31:29.600 --> 02:31:32.079 I'm saying this is someone who in my past college 3349 02:31:32.159 --> 02:31:36.200 years and like I've never I've I'm not a stranger 3350 02:31:36.319 --> 02:31:38.520 to binge drinking in my life. But I'm just saying 3351 02:31:39.319 --> 02:31:42.680 the going cold turkey for one month to me, I 3352 02:31:42.840 --> 02:31:46.200 don't people prop it up as this like big health 3353 02:31:46.399 --> 02:31:48.559 fad and I might be missing something, but it just 3354 02:31:48.719 --> 02:31:52.280 strikes me as them like not super helpful in the 3355 02:31:52.319 --> 02:31:52.680 long run. 3356 02:31:53.159 --> 02:31:55.280 For some people. It can be also like the first 3357 02:31:55.440 --> 02:31:59.239 step towards sobriety, which is just like, wow, this isles. 3358 02:31:59.319 --> 02:32:01.680 And I had person who like did it and was like, 3359 02:32:03.079 --> 02:32:06.360 I like myself better and I'm not actually going to 3360 02:32:06.440 --> 02:32:08.959 drink anymore, and they just didn't drink after that, and 3361 02:32:09.040 --> 02:32:10.959 I was like, well, that's like a really cool realization 3362 02:32:11.079 --> 02:32:13.799 to have. So I think it can work. And I 3363 02:32:14.120 --> 02:32:17.200 understand what you're saying, which is just like, it's not 3364 02:32:17.360 --> 02:32:20.079 going to solve your binge drinking if that's what you're doing. 3365 02:32:20.280 --> 02:32:22.600 A month off doesn't solve your binge drinking, but if 3366 02:32:22.639 --> 02:32:25.399 it helps you come to realizations about yourself, then it 3367 02:32:25.600 --> 02:32:26.040 is good. 3368 02:32:26.239 --> 02:32:28.079 So I think, yeah, that's all their own. 3369 02:32:28.879 --> 02:32:32.159 The reason I like the fasting concept, and the reason 3370 02:32:32.200 --> 02:32:33.680 I think it works for me is because I can 3371 02:32:33.879 --> 02:32:37.920 still like eat fast food and I can still drink. 3372 02:32:38.479 --> 02:32:41.639 It's just after eight pm, I'm done. And it stops 3373 02:32:41.799 --> 02:32:46.000 me from getting drunk on a Tuesday, and it stops 3374 02:32:46.159 --> 02:32:50.799 me from having like I don't know, Taketo's, you know, 3375 02:32:51.120 --> 02:32:53.879 from my freezer at eleven thirty at night. It's just 3376 02:32:53.959 --> 02:32:56.479 like these things that have given me like a little 3377 02:32:56.559 --> 02:32:59.079 blocker to be like you can it's past eight pm 3378 02:32:59.319 --> 02:33:01.520 sor read those to the rules, and it's given me 3379 02:33:01.639 --> 02:33:03.879 something in my brain that I work towards. But I 3380 02:33:04.200 --> 02:33:06.600 end fasting too. I like go through periods where I 3381 02:33:06.680 --> 02:33:08.280 fast and then I stop doing it again. 3382 02:33:08.680 --> 02:33:09.879 But are you doing it in the way that Like 3383 02:33:09.959 --> 02:33:12.079 when I've had friends that have been the intermittent fasting thing, 3384 02:33:12.159 --> 02:33:14.319 it's been like I've got this two hour window where 3385 02:33:14.360 --> 02:33:16.760 I can just go ape shit and I eat everything, 3386 02:33:16.879 --> 02:33:18.920 and then I don't eat for twenty two hours. 3387 02:33:19.000 --> 02:33:23.920 Like that's what mineus eight hours on, sixteen off. So 3388 02:33:24.079 --> 02:33:28.319 I eat from noon until eight pm. So maybe, but 3389 02:33:28.440 --> 02:33:31.079 I don't eat as much as I can and eight. 3390 02:33:30.959 --> 02:33:32.840 Hours, Yeah, I feel like I've heard for people be 3391 02:33:32.920 --> 02:33:34.879 like they're just shoveling stuff in for like two hours 3392 02:33:34.879 --> 02:33:36.479 and it's like, all right, I'm good until tomorrow. 3393 02:33:36.719 --> 02:33:39.840 I suspect if you're really really hungry, you probably are 3394 02:33:40.079 --> 02:33:42.680 like binging. And I would say, like the first three 3395 02:33:42.760 --> 02:33:45.559 days when I start my fast, I'm hungry because my 3396 02:33:45.639 --> 02:33:48.760 stomach is like, but why aren't you eating at nine pm? 3397 02:33:49.360 --> 02:33:52.920 And it's and once I get adjusted to it, my 3398 02:33:53.000 --> 02:33:55.959 stomach leaves me alone and like it learns like, yeah, 3399 02:33:56.040 --> 02:33:58.959 you eat from noon until eight. So but I will admit, 3400 02:33:59.040 --> 02:34:01.799 like there is an oddness to it, especially when like 3401 02:34:02.760 --> 02:34:05.280 people are like, well, we're all you know, I started 3402 02:34:05.319 --> 02:34:07.799 that bowling league, and so my bowling starts at nine pm, 3403 02:34:07.879 --> 02:34:10.479 and everyone's like having like lots of beer at nine pm, 3404 02:34:10.559 --> 02:34:12.600 and I'm like, it's past my fast. I can't and 3405 02:34:12.719 --> 02:34:13.879 it's uh brutal. 3406 02:34:14.280 --> 02:34:14.520 I know. 3407 02:34:15.280 --> 02:34:17.399 I've actually broken my fast a couple times because I 3408 02:34:17.479 --> 02:34:20.159 gotta have a beer when I bowl. You guys, it's 3409 02:34:20.280 --> 02:34:23.680 so hard. I know it's hard. It's hard to break, 3410 02:34:23.840 --> 02:34:28.120 but it's been good for me to have limitations and 3411 02:34:28.239 --> 02:34:30.559 those rules. And so I wonder for a lot of 3412 02:34:30.639 --> 02:34:34.520 people if like dry January is like, oh well, it's 3413 02:34:34.559 --> 02:34:37.440 my dry January. So it's my rule, and it helps 3414 02:34:37.479 --> 02:34:40.159 you to be able to say no in social situations 3415 02:34:40.319 --> 02:34:43.799 or like say no to yourself for God's sakes, which 3416 02:34:43.920 --> 02:34:46.120 is like in December, I don't say no to shit. 3417 02:34:46.559 --> 02:34:49.840 If I want to have a chocolate Sunday with a 3418 02:34:49.920 --> 02:34:52.760 shot of whiskey injected into the middle of the molten 3419 02:34:52.879 --> 02:34:55.239 lava cake at two in the morning, I do it 3420 02:34:55.319 --> 02:34:57.840 because I'm a real piece of shit in December. So 3421 02:34:58.040 --> 02:35:00.520 January is like my way of being like, you're not 3422 02:35:00.559 --> 02:35:02.639 allowed to do that shit for at least a little bit. 3423 02:35:03.360 --> 02:35:05.319 That's the hard part is like I feel like I'm 3424 02:35:05.399 --> 02:35:07.000 all the way on or all the way off. Usually 3425 02:35:07.079 --> 02:35:08.920 it's like the you know, the crusty doll, the good 3426 02:35:08.959 --> 02:35:09.600 to evil switch. 3427 02:35:09.760 --> 02:35:13.200 Yeah, yeah, literally, like that's the problem right here, You've 3428 02:35:13.239 --> 02:35:15.120 said it on to fat bastard. Yeah. 3429 02:35:16.680 --> 02:35:18.920 So it's either like okay, Well, if I'm in the 3430 02:35:18.959 --> 02:35:22.079 middle of like training for like a marathon thing, it's like, well, okay, 3431 02:35:22.159 --> 02:35:24.360 I have to be good about this to some degree, 3432 02:35:24.360 --> 02:35:26.760 and I still allow myself to occasionally, you know, I'll drink, 3433 02:35:26.799 --> 02:35:28.600 I'll have fast food once a week or something. But 3434 02:35:28.760 --> 02:35:30.639 you know, you got to stay on it versus like 3435 02:35:30.920 --> 02:35:33.799 when that switch gets flipped off. It's so easy for 3436 02:35:33.879 --> 02:35:36.319 me to just be like, uh, fuck it, like fuck 3437 02:35:36.360 --> 02:35:39.639 this weekend. You know, I've had dominoes and you know, 3438 02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:42.120 drank most days, and it's just like I it was 3439 02:35:42.159 --> 02:35:44.280 not a healthy weekend. It's like, well, I'll start training 3440 02:35:44.360 --> 02:35:46.319 in May. It's well, no, you can't. 3441 02:35:46.479 --> 02:35:47.319 Just that's a problem. 3442 02:35:47.360 --> 02:35:50.520 I can't just go from being an asshole and then 3443 02:35:50.600 --> 02:35:52.360 go into being a marathon train guy. 3444 02:35:52.479 --> 02:35:54.319 You know, like it's you got to just find that 3445 02:35:54.440 --> 02:35:55.639 moderation in between the things. 3446 02:35:55.840 --> 02:35:58.639 Yeah you've got you know, you're too fast, too fast, 3447 02:35:58.719 --> 02:36:00.479 too fast, And there are people who do that, who 3448 02:36:00.520 --> 02:36:02.840 are like I'm gonna do a marathon and they fuck 3449 02:36:02.920 --> 02:36:06.399 their body up. They like wreck there. You can like 3450 02:36:06.600 --> 02:36:09.799 get shin splints or like you know, hurt your ankle bones, 3451 02:36:09.799 --> 02:36:10.680 all sorts of stuff. 3452 02:36:11.840 --> 02:36:14.360 I remember many years ago, they used to just thing 3453 02:36:14.399 --> 02:36:16.399 where they would bring in these guest hosts for Monday 3454 02:36:16.479 --> 02:36:18.360 Night Raw. It was terrible, but one of them was 3455 02:36:18.440 --> 02:36:20.799 his boxer named Ricky Hatton, and I never heard of him. 3456 02:36:20.799 --> 02:36:23.520 I don't really follow boxing, and I guess I looked 3457 02:36:23.600 --> 02:36:25.840 him up after that and like he has two he's 3458 02:36:25.920 --> 02:36:28.159 Ricky Hatton. But also when he's not training for a fight, 3459 02:36:28.719 --> 02:36:31.520 he's known as Ricky Fatten because he just like gets 3460 02:36:31.600 --> 02:36:34.479 himself real fat and just eats and drinks like shit. 3461 02:36:34.840 --> 02:36:36.319 And then like when he's got a fight, he just 3462 02:36:36.399 --> 02:36:38.360 gets in super good like fighting shape and stuff. And 3463 02:36:38.440 --> 02:36:42.000 I think we're like own Ricky Fatten, Ricky Hatton. And 3464 02:36:42.159 --> 02:36:43.639 I think when I saw that a No. Nine, I 3465 02:36:43.760 --> 02:36:44.520 was like, oh cool. 3466 02:36:44.520 --> 02:36:46.319 I didn't know you could do that all right, Like, yeah, 3467 02:36:46.319 --> 02:36:48.559 you can just switch back and forth. That sounds great. 3468 02:36:48.920 --> 02:36:52.319 That's probably not healthy, so bad to learn that. 3469 02:36:52.479 --> 02:36:56.479 And girls have everybody has different versions of this, but 3470 02:36:56.639 --> 02:36:58.280 like for me growing up, a lot of that was 3471 02:36:58.399 --> 02:37:02.319 like extreme dieting to lose weight. She's like something just 3472 02:37:02.440 --> 02:37:05.079 a lot of girls that I grew up with dealt 3473 02:37:05.120 --> 02:37:08.319 with and figured out and it's just really really bad 3474 02:37:08.520 --> 02:37:12.719 to learn and it's hard to unlearn to have those 3475 02:37:12.760 --> 02:37:16.559 extreme measures. So maybe that's your aversion to dry January, 3476 02:37:16.600 --> 02:37:19.440 which is an extreme right. You're going from extreme drinking 3477 02:37:19.559 --> 02:37:22.600 to extreme not drinking, which ultimately the best thing for 3478 02:37:22.680 --> 02:37:25.520 you to do is to develop like a healthy relationship 3479 02:37:25.639 --> 02:37:29.559 to vices or learn that you can't have a healthy relationship. 3480 02:37:29.639 --> 02:37:31.000 Devices Yeah, And. 3481 02:37:31.079 --> 02:37:31.920 I think that's the harder thing. 3482 02:37:32.040 --> 02:37:33.600 I think if if I had proof I had a 3483 02:37:33.680 --> 02:37:35.760 history of getting in fights and getting arrested and missing 3484 02:37:35.879 --> 02:37:38.399 work and missing flights and shit like that, I think 3485 02:37:38.440 --> 02:37:40.360 that would be so much easier to be like, well, Okay, 3486 02:37:40.360 --> 02:37:42.639 I'm just gonna like not drink. But it's like, I 3487 02:37:42.680 --> 02:37:44.440 don't know, I like drinking a lot, and I've never 3488 02:37:44.479 --> 02:37:47.200 gotten in trouble for it, and I've never gotten health, 3489 02:37:47.360 --> 02:37:49.520 you know, like outside of just like weight and stuff 3490 02:37:49.559 --> 02:37:51.280 and maybe like a hangover anxiety thing. 3491 02:37:51.959 --> 02:37:52.000 Like. 3492 02:37:52.719 --> 02:37:55.479 It's when there's not that like need to where like 3493 02:37:55.559 --> 02:37:58.000 that like, oh you have to you got the shit, 3494 02:37:58.120 --> 02:38:00.440 got to get your shit together, it's easy to be like, well, whatever, 3495 02:38:00.559 --> 02:38:02.200 it's not going to be what's the worst is gonna happen? 3496 02:38:02.239 --> 02:38:02.360 You know. 3497 02:38:02.639 --> 02:38:05.280 Yeah, it's a slippery slope, but it's good that you 3498 02:38:05.360 --> 02:38:06.040 have that in check. 3499 02:38:06.879 --> 02:38:10.799 Yeah, it's yeah, if it's something where someone really needs 3500 02:38:10.840 --> 02:38:13.520 to take a step back, then sure go for it. Yes, 3501 02:38:13.639 --> 02:38:15.559 And then if they realize they, like Mary, you said, 3502 02:38:15.600 --> 02:38:17.799 your friend just likes themselves better when they're sober, then. 3503 02:38:17.760 --> 02:38:20.520 They literally were like I think I'm happier and we were. 3504 02:38:20.520 --> 02:38:24.319 Like and January was like the foundation for that. I 3505 02:38:24.399 --> 02:38:26.600 think my thing is like when people I know who 3506 02:38:26.680 --> 02:38:29.159 are going to get hammered on February first, I'm like, 3507 02:38:29.280 --> 02:38:33.079 there's no point forward, There's no Yeah. If February first 3508 02:38:33.159 --> 02:38:34.639 is what you're looking forward to the whole time, I 3509 02:38:34.719 --> 02:38:42.520 think you should examine maybe have like drinks, drink better, 3510 02:38:43.040 --> 02:38:46.719 not harder, almost like drink stuff you really enjoy in 3511 02:38:46.840 --> 02:38:50.680 small in like moderation and like because again, like alcohol 3512 02:38:50.680 --> 02:38:52.079 can enhance social situations. 3513 02:38:52.120 --> 02:38:54.920 It can, it can, It can help people develop like like. 3514 02:38:55.159 --> 02:38:57.479 A little bit of crack, a little bit of yeah, 3515 02:38:57.479 --> 02:38:58.079 a little bit of crack. 3516 02:38:58.159 --> 02:39:02.120 Never anybody a little a little a little crisch, a 3517 02:39:02.159 --> 02:39:03.000 little cristy crack. 3518 02:39:03.920 --> 02:39:08.319 All right, well, thank you from media. I'm gonna call 3519 02:39:08.360 --> 02:39:08.760 the media. 3520 02:39:09.959 --> 02:39:11.360 Mary. You want to read this last one? That's kind 3521 02:39:11.360 --> 02:39:14.479 of directed me, but I'm gonna I'm I pick out 3522 02:39:14.479 --> 02:39:16.280 the emails, so I indulge myself with this one. It's 3523 02:39:16.280 --> 02:39:20.760 about what sure Jacob? From which to talk to Jacobs? 3524 02:39:21.559 --> 02:39:22.799 Okay, cool with Cheta. 3525 02:39:23.639 --> 02:39:32.520 Which Cheetah, Cheita, Hello, escapees, congratulations on one hundred episodes 3526 02:39:33.040 --> 02:39:38.079 all of this? Uh talk about uh? Not drinking or 3527 02:39:38.159 --> 02:39:40.920 drinking in moderation made Dan thirsty and make him made 3528 02:39:41.000 --> 02:39:47.319 him go get a beer. Yeah, congratulations on one hundred episodes. 3529 02:39:47.360 --> 02:39:50.079 I have a question. I'm going to Italy with my 3530 02:39:50.280 --> 02:39:52.799 family in April, and I just want to know if 3531 02:39:52.920 --> 02:39:57.319 Mike has recommendations about certain food and wine pairings I 3532 02:39:57.399 --> 02:40:00.399 should try when we get a chance. And more import importantly, 3533 02:40:00.639 --> 02:40:03.360 back in the first year of fire Escape, Mary mentioned 3534 02:40:03.440 --> 02:40:06.680 she thought blowing out your nose in the shower was 3535 02:40:06.760 --> 02:40:09.159 the worst thing ever, and I'd like her to expand 3536 02:40:09.319 --> 02:40:11.920 on that, because, if anything, it sounds like the best 3537 02:40:12.000 --> 02:40:15.319 time to do that. Thanks for all these laughs. One 3538 02:40:15.399 --> 02:40:18.479 hundred and one episodes. Here's two one hundred more. Jacob 3539 02:40:19.040 --> 02:40:24.479 from Wichita, Kansas. Thanks Jacob. Unfortunately, Mike doesn't have any recommendations. 3540 02:40:24.559 --> 02:40:28.920 We asked him before this and he was like, I 3541 02:40:29.159 --> 02:40:33.239 just don't really know anything about Italy and I don't 3542 02:40:33.239 --> 02:40:36.200 want to sound ignorant, So big. 3543 02:40:36.120 --> 02:40:39.120 Book of wine grapes before I let you do the 3544 02:40:39.200 --> 02:40:42.319 nose snot and we go low brow. Okay, I think 3545 02:40:42.680 --> 02:40:44.520 I'm gonna I'm gonna do a teach a man to 3546 02:40:44.559 --> 02:40:47.319 fish rather than give a man a fit. I forget 3547 02:40:47.360 --> 02:40:52.239 the phrase bouchet. Thing to keep in mind, you're probably 3548 02:40:52.280 --> 02:40:54.159 gonna be having a lot of pasta in Italy. Depending 3549 02:40:54.200 --> 02:40:56.079 on where you're going, there might be a lot of lamb, 3550 02:40:56.319 --> 02:40:59.040 there might be some truffles if you're in Northwest, but 3551 02:40:59.159 --> 02:41:01.120 you're probably gonna be having a lot of pasta. And 3552 02:41:01.159 --> 02:41:04.520 the number one thing to remember is if you're having 3553 02:41:04.719 --> 02:41:08.520 tomato based sauce, that's gonna be very acidic, so you 3554 02:41:08.680 --> 02:41:11.680 need a wine that's more acidic or else you're gonna 3555 02:41:11.719 --> 02:41:13.719 drown the wine out. It's not gonna be a successful pairing. 3556 02:41:14.159 --> 02:41:18.000 So in general rules of thumb, if you're gonna be 3557 02:41:18.079 --> 02:41:23.639 having something tomato based, get like a high acid wine 3558 02:41:23.760 --> 02:41:27.639 like a Sandaves or a nebiolo. Second rule, if you're 3559 02:41:27.639 --> 02:41:30.079 gonna be having like red meat, definitely go for something 3560 02:41:30.120 --> 02:41:32.959 more tannic. It can help like smooth out the fat 3561 02:41:33.000 --> 02:41:35.280 in the wine and the tannins will be softened by 3562 02:41:35.959 --> 02:41:38.000 the red meat. It kind of a it's definitely a 3563 02:41:38.040 --> 02:41:42.360 complimentary relationship. Third rule, do not be afraid to ask 3564 02:41:42.559 --> 02:41:46.040 the psalm or the server or like whoever's there. Just 3565 02:41:46.079 --> 02:41:48.520 say like, hey, what would you recommend? Like half the 3566 02:41:48.559 --> 02:41:50.799 people you ask are gonna be excited to recommend something 3567 02:41:50.840 --> 02:41:53.840 to you. Especially in Italy. They take food very seriously, 3568 02:41:53.920 --> 02:41:56.600 they take wine very seriously. I wouldn't worry about like 3569 02:41:56.760 --> 02:41:59.879 specific kinds of wine because Italy has like five hundred 3570 02:42:00.040 --> 02:42:03.680 if the active grapes, So that's a fairly tall order 3571 02:42:03.719 --> 02:42:05.959 to remember. But like, you can't go wrong with like 3572 02:42:06.000 --> 02:42:08.879 a Kianti with tomato. You can't go wrong with like 3573 02:42:08.959 --> 02:42:11.920 a barber Esco with some red meat. But in general, 3574 02:42:12.040 --> 02:42:15.440 just ask ask the people at the restaurant. They'll they'll 3575 02:42:15.479 --> 02:42:17.520 be more than happy to guide you. 3576 02:42:18.360 --> 02:42:20.399 I wouldn't go to a place with less than six 3577 02:42:20.520 --> 02:42:22.479 hundred active grapes when I travel. 3578 02:42:23.680 --> 02:42:26.799 Yeah, it's a good I like that you had a limit. 3579 02:42:29.159 --> 02:42:31.120 Look, you just don't wait till you get to week 3580 02:42:31.239 --> 02:42:33.040 ten of your courses of courses. 3581 02:42:33.399 --> 02:42:35.600 Well, I haven't talked about it much at Firescape, But Mary, 3582 02:42:35.840 --> 02:42:38.479 why does it gross you out to snot in the shower? 3583 02:42:39.000 --> 02:42:41.200 I mean, I think there's a couple things that I 3584 02:42:41.440 --> 02:42:45.079 just personally don't think are shower things that I think 3585 02:42:45.159 --> 02:42:48.600 other people do. So you know, if you are standing, 3586 02:42:48.719 --> 02:42:50.520 sit down for this, because I think some people will 3587 02:42:50.520 --> 02:42:53.559 be like what, But like, I don't think the shower 3588 02:42:53.719 --> 02:42:55.239 is the place for you to brush your teeth? 3589 02:42:56.319 --> 02:43:01.799 No, right, why what's the benefit save because it's all time, 3590 02:43:01.840 --> 02:43:02.120 I guess. 3591 02:43:02.200 --> 02:43:05.760 But you're already in there and you're cleaning your body, 3592 02:43:06.000 --> 02:43:08.840 so why not clean the teeth? 3593 02:43:09.120 --> 02:43:09.239 Right? 3594 02:43:09.319 --> 02:43:11.360 But I feel like there's certainly like I shave. 3595 02:43:11.799 --> 02:43:14.120 I shaved my head in the shower, you know, I 3596 02:43:15.520 --> 02:43:17.840 because like the hair goes into the drain, there's a 3597 02:43:18.000 --> 02:43:20.760 there's a use to that. I don't feel like brushing 3598 02:43:20.799 --> 02:43:22.639 the teeth like you're gonna spit the shit in the 3599 02:43:22.639 --> 02:43:23.159 sink anyway? 3600 02:43:23.280 --> 02:43:23.639 Right? Does it? 3601 02:43:23.959 --> 02:43:25.120 Does it make it gross for you? 3602 02:43:25.360 --> 02:43:25.479 Can? 3603 02:43:25.520 --> 02:43:28.040 I just can you elaborate it? 3604 02:43:28.120 --> 02:43:28.799 I don't think. 3605 02:43:29.079 --> 02:43:31.479 I've just never even considered it, honestly, Like, I just 3606 02:43:31.639 --> 02:43:33.280 I don't think i'd be grossed out. I think I 3607 02:43:33.319 --> 02:43:36.079 would just be like, why, I feel like the water 3608 02:43:36.159 --> 02:43:37.840 would be hitting my face and it would just be 3609 02:43:37.959 --> 02:43:38.600 like slobbering. 3610 02:43:38.840 --> 02:43:43.079 It's like, yeah, you're like getting toothpaste on yours. 3611 02:43:43.120 --> 02:43:43.600 I don't need that. 3612 02:43:43.680 --> 02:43:45.360 I don't. I don't like the thought of brushing my 3613 02:43:45.399 --> 02:43:47.840 teeth with warm water getting into my mouth. That's gross 3614 02:43:47.840 --> 02:43:50.079 to me. Like I need cold water a. 3615 02:43:50.440 --> 02:43:52.959 Very different reasons. But I but I'm glad that we 3616 02:43:53.079 --> 02:43:54.879 all kind of feel this vibe. There's a lot of 3617 02:43:54.879 --> 02:43:56.879 people who brush their teeth in the shower to save time. 3618 02:43:57.159 --> 02:43:59.719 I don't think they're saving time. I would I would argue, 3619 02:43:59.719 --> 02:44:01.879 and I would ask them to prove to me. I'm 3620 02:44:01.879 --> 02:44:03.520 gonna sit in the bathroom next time they brush to 3621 02:44:03.600 --> 02:44:04.079 either shower. 3622 02:44:04.159 --> 02:44:06.399 Are they like brushing with one hand and soaping with 3623 02:44:06.479 --> 02:44:08.079 the Otherwise it's going to take the. 3624 02:44:08.079 --> 02:44:11.440 Same taking to the thirty seconds or forty five seconds 3625 02:44:11.440 --> 02:44:12.719 it takes a brush your teeth after the shower. 3626 02:44:12.959 --> 02:44:15.760 I know into you're wasting more water, if any. 3627 02:44:15.680 --> 02:44:17.319 But I don't think it's that rare. I think there's 3628 02:44:17.319 --> 02:44:20.159 a good chunk of ours that probably brush their teeth 3629 02:44:20.200 --> 02:44:22.040 in the shower. And so that's why I like preface 3630 02:44:22.479 --> 02:44:27.559 what people subscribers have plummeted fifteen fifteen? 3631 02:44:27.799 --> 02:44:29.520 Do you think fifteen brush your teeth through the shower? 3632 02:44:29.719 --> 02:44:32.200 I think I think they are a minority, and I 3633 02:44:32.319 --> 02:44:35.120 think it's probably around ten to fifteen. That is my guess. 3634 02:44:35.159 --> 02:44:37.799 Maybe there's a benefit I'm missing, like that I'm being 3635 02:44:37.959 --> 02:44:38.799 completely callous. 3636 02:44:38.920 --> 02:44:40.520 Tell me to ignore, Please tell me. 3637 02:44:40.840 --> 02:44:43.159 Okay, So here's my problem with blowing your nose in 3638 02:44:43.239 --> 02:44:47.120 the shower. Jacob, you say you think it sounds like 3639 02:44:47.159 --> 02:44:50.000 the best time, probably because you're cleaning your body, right, 3640 02:44:50.079 --> 02:44:56.239 so like why not clean this because you're blowing snot 3641 02:44:56.799 --> 02:44:59.760 on your hands and it's going in between your fingers 3642 02:44:59.799 --> 02:45:02.399 and stuff, and you're like, yeah, but I'm cleaning those parts. 3643 02:45:02.479 --> 02:45:05.600 But it's like, yeah, but blow your nose before you 3644 02:45:05.680 --> 02:45:06.840 get in the shower and. 3645 02:45:06.920 --> 02:45:10.360 Then wash You're you're it's all the steam, you're. 3646 02:45:10.239 --> 02:45:15.920 Loosened the goop, but like it goes into a tissue 3647 02:45:16.120 --> 02:45:17.920 and then you can wash your hands. I think there's 3648 02:45:17.959 --> 02:45:22.079 just something I don't want snot all over my hands. 3649 02:45:22.360 --> 02:45:23.799 That's so gross, And even. 3650 02:45:24.120 --> 02:45:27.079 If I rinse them in the shower post blow, I 3651 02:45:27.280 --> 02:45:29.520 just feel like I'm a little gross. 3652 02:45:29.840 --> 02:45:34.200 I don't know, maybe I'm misremembering something. If that's what 3653 02:45:34.280 --> 02:45:37.360 they're doing, then yeah, that's horrendous. I think what he's 3654 02:45:37.360 --> 02:45:39.200 saying by snot in the shower is like one of 3655 02:45:39.239 --> 02:45:40.360 these over the drain. 3656 02:45:40.879 --> 02:45:44.159 I've never I've never tried doing that's want to do that. 3657 02:45:44.319 --> 02:45:46.479 That's way less gross than going into your hands for 3658 02:45:46.600 --> 02:45:49.440 no reason. They're both weird, and I agree. 3659 02:45:49.200 --> 02:45:52.399 I'm just in general, are not are not acceptable? 3660 02:45:52.719 --> 02:45:54.479 Uh? I've never done a snot rock I'm not going 3661 02:45:54.559 --> 02:45:55.120 to go into. 3662 02:45:55.159 --> 02:45:56.520 The privacy of your shower. 3663 02:45:56.680 --> 02:45:58.959 So if you, uh, we're talking about it right now, 3664 02:45:59.000 --> 02:46:00.239 we're if you blow. 3665 02:46:00.239 --> 02:46:03.040 Your nose and you're brushing your teeth in the shower, like, 3666 02:46:03.239 --> 02:46:06.719 live your best life, that's your fucking thing. Me, I 3667 02:46:06.959 --> 02:46:11.319 just don't think that showers are for like face whole things. 3668 02:46:11.440 --> 02:46:13.719 I don't clean my ear holes in the shower. I 3669 02:46:13.760 --> 02:46:16.399 don't blow my nose or do snot rockets in the shower, 3670 02:46:16.520 --> 02:46:19.239 and I don't brush my teeth in the shower. That's 3671 02:46:19.280 --> 02:46:22.120 for pre and post shower. The shower is for the 3672 02:46:22.239 --> 02:46:26.079 crevices of the body. It's for all the knickknacks, it's 3673 02:46:26.120 --> 02:46:28.840 for all the innerds in the outers, just get clean. 3674 02:46:29.280 --> 02:46:31.799 But it's not for face holes, like leave your face 3675 02:46:31.879 --> 02:46:36.319 holes for sink. Yeah, that's just my that's just my standards. 3676 02:46:36.319 --> 02:46:37.079 How I was raised. 3677 02:46:37.559 --> 02:46:38.479 Butt hole in the sink. 3678 02:46:39.639 --> 02:46:42.600 Oh my god, what do you mean, kid? 3679 02:46:43.200 --> 02:46:43.639 I don't know. 3680 02:46:45.280 --> 02:46:48.520 That's why I said face holes. I think you can 3681 02:46:48.639 --> 02:46:50.760 get your holes in the shower if you need to 3682 02:46:50.799 --> 02:46:54.399 clean your holes, which I do encourage, like you can 3683 02:46:54.479 --> 02:46:58.440 clean your holes. But again, that's what the shower is 3684 02:46:58.520 --> 02:47:01.600 for It's for the body crev and nooks. If you're 3685 02:47:01.639 --> 02:47:04.600 like not everybody has like loofahs or whatever. So like, 3686 02:47:04.639 --> 02:47:06.479 if you're soaping up your hands and you're getting in 3687 02:47:06.559 --> 02:47:08.559 your armpits and your butt crack and stuff like that, 3688 02:47:09.440 --> 02:47:11.319 you're brushing your teeth, you know what I mean, Like 3689 02:47:11.520 --> 02:47:13.840 you and you're getting in your nose and stuff like, 3690 02:47:14.559 --> 02:47:19.399 have some separation. Clean your body in the shower, clean 3691 02:47:19.479 --> 02:47:20.920 your face holes in the sink. 3692 02:47:23.239 --> 02:47:26.479 I we've been talking for the past two and a 3693 02:47:26.520 --> 02:47:29.040 half hours whatever, and so I know where I am on. 3694 02:47:29.319 --> 02:47:31.399 Like I could tell when Dan's looking at my panel, 3695 02:47:31.719 --> 02:47:34.360 and I love how when you just said that I 3696 02:47:34.520 --> 02:47:36.040 butt hole in the sink, I could tell you were 3697 02:47:36.079 --> 02:47:37.799 looking at me waiting for me to laugh. But I 3698 02:47:37.840 --> 02:47:40.399 didn't get it. So you're just like it's like you 3699 02:47:40.479 --> 02:47:42.280 were leaning on me to laugh. You don't know me. 3700 02:47:42.479 --> 02:47:43.120 I don't get it. 3701 02:47:43.799 --> 02:47:47.120 He knows you like the back of his no. 3702 02:47:47.280 --> 02:47:50.520 But I fully I make sure you say buttthole for 3703 02:47:50.680 --> 02:47:53.239 last in the shower because it's like I don't want 3704 02:47:53.239 --> 02:47:55.200 to like but even if you like, you know, wash 3705 02:47:55.280 --> 02:47:57.879 your hands and stuff after, Yes, I'm down there cleaning 3706 02:47:58.000 --> 02:47:59.959 like once I'm in there and doing all this stuff 3707 02:48:00.200 --> 02:48:03.399 in between the stuff in there in there. Yes, once 3708 02:48:03.440 --> 02:48:05.760 I'm in there, I'm not touching my face. I'm not 3709 02:48:05.920 --> 02:48:08.639 rubbing my hands on my chest. I'm not doing anything actually. 3710 02:48:08.600 --> 02:48:11.680 Washing right, like you your your hands are clean post shower. 3711 02:48:11.799 --> 02:48:13.520 But I think it's like more of like the mentality 3712 02:48:13.559 --> 02:48:15.879 of like you're in all these crevices and stuff, like, 3713 02:48:16.000 --> 02:48:18.120 I'm really not putting my hands all up in my 3714 02:48:18.239 --> 02:48:20.920 face as I'm cleaning out the body. 3715 02:48:20.959 --> 02:48:24.319 Like eventhole is the last thing before I turn the 3716 02:48:24.399 --> 02:48:28.120 water off. I'm giving a full soapy hand situation, like 3717 02:48:28.159 --> 02:48:30.319 I don't want butt hands going around day to day 3718 02:48:30.399 --> 02:48:31.879 that my keyboard. 3719 02:48:32.799 --> 02:48:34.719 Let me get out of the shower. I'm steering clear 3720 02:48:34.799 --> 02:48:35.000 of you. 3721 02:48:35.719 --> 02:48:38.399 You want my butt have nothing to do after the shower. 3722 02:48:38.520 --> 02:48:40.600 Yeah, he's got butt all over his beer right now? 3723 02:48:42.399 --> 02:48:43.280 Are people? 3724 02:48:44.399 --> 02:48:47.239 No, I went into the loop a thing like in 3725 02:48:47.319 --> 02:48:50.120 the last year. Yeah, I'm currently loop person. I did 3726 02:48:50.239 --> 02:48:52.239 just learn that you're supposed to swap them out. 3727 02:48:53.040 --> 02:48:54.600 Yeah, I didn't know that. 3728 02:48:54.840 --> 02:48:58.319 Such a funny conversation. Yeah, regularly it's like a sponge 3729 02:48:58.479 --> 02:49:00.479 in the right like it's a crewing. 3730 02:49:01.159 --> 02:49:04.079 I mean quarter, I'd say use your best judgments. 3731 02:49:05.440 --> 02:49:10.280 Yeah, was like it's just I would even say you 3732 02:49:10.280 --> 02:49:13.360 could go more than quarterly at least I would say 3733 02:49:13.959 --> 02:49:15.440 I'm probably fine. 3734 02:49:15.479 --> 02:49:19.479 They're crewing stuff. Again, I think a lot of our 3735 02:49:19.479 --> 02:49:21.000 people are like, listen, I'm not going to change out 3736 02:49:21.000 --> 02:49:23.319 my loofa every two months. And it's like that's totally fine, Like. 3737 02:49:24.239 --> 02:49:25.559 Just get a bunch though. When you go to the 3738 02:49:25.600 --> 02:49:27.639 grocery store, they're like two dollars. 3739 02:49:29.600 --> 02:49:33.200 Or ye old hand towel, which is what like you know, 3740 02:49:33.319 --> 02:49:35.600 like a little wash cloth. You can throw them in 3741 02:49:36.280 --> 02:49:37.760 the washing machine. You know. 3742 02:49:38.319 --> 02:49:41.440 The reason I like no was like a little wash 3743 02:49:42.680 --> 02:49:44.760 I feel like once it's up in there, it's like 3744 02:49:44.920 --> 02:49:47.440 that needs to go right into the washer afterwards. 3745 02:49:47.719 --> 02:49:50.000 You throw your underwear after every use. 3746 02:49:50.719 --> 02:49:53.200 Yeah, but that's not like up in my butthole the 3747 02:49:53.280 --> 02:49:55.879 way that like when you put you put your loof 3748 02:49:56.079 --> 02:50:00.120 in yours, the cloth into my anus. I like it 3749 02:50:00.280 --> 02:50:03.239 is very much making direct contact and rubbing back and 3750 02:50:03.319 --> 02:50:06.520 forth as I'm do with my boxers. 3751 02:50:06.760 --> 02:50:09.159 I bet your boxers touch your asshole. 3752 02:50:10.319 --> 02:50:13.120 They're hanging out down there, but they're not like getting 3753 02:50:13.239 --> 02:50:16.319 up in there the way that like you're putting your. 3754 02:50:16.280 --> 02:50:20.879 Buttthole touching boxers in your laundry. Where it's touching it is. 3755 02:50:21.200 --> 02:50:24.440 It is a grazing of the butthole with the underpants. 3756 02:50:24.959 --> 02:50:27.879 I think with a washbrag, you are actively trying to 3757 02:50:28.479 --> 02:50:31.719 contact the butthole, which would never happen with boxers. 3758 02:50:32.879 --> 02:50:36.719 I think that you can wash something in a washing 3759 02:50:36.879 --> 02:50:41.440 machine and it is washing the butthole off of the item, 3760 02:50:41.639 --> 02:50:46.159 and then you can use it again, depending on how 3761 02:50:46.760 --> 02:50:51.920 badly that experience went. Because yeah, if you like shit 3762 02:50:52.000 --> 02:50:56.360 on your loofah, just get a new loofa, just like 3763 02:50:56.399 --> 02:50:58.639 if you shit your underpants, don't take those to the 3764 02:50:58.719 --> 02:50:59.840 dry cleaner. They're done. 3765 02:51:00.760 --> 02:51:03.239 I mean, I've never had skid marks the way my 3766 02:51:03.360 --> 02:51:05.239 dad says everyone always has them all the time. I 3767 02:51:05.319 --> 02:51:09.760 don't subscribe to that. I don't think my butthole is 3768 02:51:09.799 --> 02:51:11.280 a very chaotic environment. 3769 02:51:11.760 --> 02:51:15.120 I'm glad that you have a really nice and neutral 3770 02:51:15.520 --> 02:51:18.959 butthole situation, and I think we're actually on the same page. 3771 02:51:19.040 --> 02:51:21.280 And I'm not trying to fight you on how dirty 3772 02:51:21.479 --> 02:51:23.799 the things are that touch your butthole. But what I 3773 02:51:23.920 --> 02:51:26.760 am just suggesting is is you can wash a washcloth 3774 02:51:27.159 --> 02:51:29.520 just like you wash your underwear, and they're clean. 3775 02:51:31.360 --> 02:51:34.159 Wash wash you know what the difference is, I'm not 3776 02:51:34.319 --> 02:51:36.760 taking my underwear and rubbing it all over the rest 3777 02:51:36.799 --> 02:51:41.600 of my body. A washrag next time it's deployed is 3778 02:51:41.680 --> 02:51:44.040 going to be going all over my shoulders and chest 3779 02:51:44.120 --> 02:51:44.920 and legs and stuff. 3780 02:51:45.000 --> 02:51:46.040 So it is your loofa. 3781 02:51:47.719 --> 02:51:51.040 No, we're not talking about that way boxers versus like 3782 02:51:51.239 --> 02:51:53.239 a boxer like even if it's hanging out by the 3783 02:51:53.239 --> 02:51:56.520 butthole a lot. Yeah, I'm not rubbing the boxers all 3784 02:51:56.559 --> 02:51:57.799 over my neck and shit. 3785 02:51:58.280 --> 02:52:01.399 I understand, But do you is the loofa that you 3786 02:52:01.559 --> 02:52:03.319 loofah your butthole with on? 3787 02:52:04.280 --> 02:52:04.319 No? 3788 02:52:04.719 --> 02:52:05.959 Oh, okay, so this is important. 3789 02:52:06.040 --> 02:52:07.440 Do you have a butthole loofa dan? 3790 02:52:07.680 --> 02:52:07.719 No? 3791 02:52:08.000 --> 02:52:09.719 No, No, here's what I do. 3792 02:52:10.079 --> 02:52:13.360 It's like a tiny on a tea chain, like it 3793 02:52:13.520 --> 02:52:15.319 just goes in plug. Yeah. 3794 02:52:15.319 --> 02:52:19.680 I do all of my head stuff first. I do beard, 3795 02:52:20.040 --> 02:52:23.479 I do hair, I do face before butthole is even 3796 02:52:23.520 --> 02:52:27.159 on the table top. Yeah, the litteral head is just 3797 02:52:27.319 --> 02:52:30.280 done first, and then I do loof up and then 3798 02:52:30.319 --> 02:52:32.200 I squirt the body wash on it, and then I 3799 02:52:32.280 --> 02:52:34.920 do the big areas and the chest, I do the arms, 3800 02:52:35.000 --> 02:52:38.319 I do thighs as well. Uh, I do stomach with 3801 02:52:38.360 --> 02:52:41.559 the loop, get in the belly button, yeah, yeah, yeah, 3802 02:52:41.719 --> 02:52:42.879 I get in there and everything, and then I do 3803 02:52:43.040 --> 02:52:46.479 thighs and calves and everything. What about your armpits, I'm 3804 02:52:46.520 --> 02:52:51.000 getting there the loop, I squeeze out the loofah, I 3805 02:52:51.079 --> 02:52:52.879 put it up on the thing. I do the body 3806 02:52:53.040 --> 02:52:54.799 wash in the hands. And then because you want to 3807 02:52:54.840 --> 02:52:57.200 get up in the armpit. 3808 02:52:57.000 --> 02:53:00.079 So I do just hand hands on the pits and 3809 02:53:00.399 --> 02:53:02.479 soap on pits, okay. 3810 02:53:02.520 --> 02:53:06.120 And then I go down and I need to know this, 3811 02:53:06.280 --> 02:53:08.799 but I'm so interesting. I'm just we're breaking this down. 3812 02:53:09.200 --> 02:53:11.120 And then I go down to the guy bits there 3813 02:53:11.639 --> 02:53:14.040 and I do the stuff with the soap with my 3814 02:53:14.120 --> 02:53:15.959 hands there to make sure that's nice and clean with 3815 02:53:16.040 --> 02:53:20.360 my hands. Yes, And then the last I get the 3816 02:53:20.399 --> 02:53:23.000 body washed up on my hands. And then you do 3817 02:53:23.120 --> 02:53:26.159 your buttole work with your hands with your hands. 3818 02:53:26.239 --> 02:53:28.799 Okay, So the loofa never touches your holes. 3819 02:53:29.000 --> 02:53:32.559 The loofah doesn't even know I have an asshole. It's 3820 02:53:32.719 --> 02:53:33.840 just that is. 3821 02:53:34.159 --> 02:53:36.760 The hands go in the crevice there and everything, make 3822 02:53:36.799 --> 02:53:39.440 sure that's good. And then you do a separate hand 3823 02:53:39.600 --> 02:53:42.360 clean just to make sure all the butthole stuff is offerd. 3824 02:53:42.520 --> 02:53:44.879 The last thing you do is clean the hands because 3825 02:53:44.879 --> 02:53:45.719 those are butt hands. 3826 02:53:45.879 --> 02:53:46.920 Yeah, yes, so nothing. 3827 02:53:47.000 --> 02:53:49.719 There's not a single loofa or anything that even has 3828 02:53:50.280 --> 02:53:51.799 been in the neighborhood of my asshole. 3829 02:53:53.280 --> 02:53:55.479 I mean, I don't see a lot of fault with this. 3830 02:53:55.760 --> 02:54:00.040 It sounds very anal like in the sense that it 3831 02:54:00.040 --> 02:54:02.479 sounds like you're being very particular with what touches what. 3832 02:54:02.840 --> 02:54:04.239 I don't even I mean, I don't think. 3833 02:54:04.280 --> 02:54:08.959 I don't even think about that. You know, but you 3834 02:54:09.280 --> 02:54:10.440 just started loofaing. 3835 02:54:11.479 --> 02:54:14.079 I started loof loofing in the last like year. 3836 02:54:14.479 --> 02:54:16.799 Okay, so before that, were you all hands all time? 3837 02:54:16.920 --> 02:54:18.959 Bar of soap goes everywhere? 3838 02:54:19.799 --> 02:54:22.239 Yeah, okay, I mean I have no problem with bar 3839 02:54:22.360 --> 02:54:25.840 of soap or soapy hands getting up in the crevices 3840 02:54:25.879 --> 02:54:28.120 and holes. I'm for all of this. I like that 3841 02:54:28.159 --> 02:54:31.440 you're a clean person, and I think you're you're doing great, 3842 02:54:31.520 --> 02:54:34.440 and so I don't have any notes. I will just 3843 02:54:34.559 --> 02:54:39.319 state like, you can also get stuff on your hole 3844 02:54:39.520 --> 02:54:41.840 and wash it, and then it's fine, and you can 3845 02:54:42.159 --> 02:54:46.440 you can also it's all bit and fine. Maybe when 3846 02:54:46.479 --> 02:54:49.680 people have a toothbrush on the shower, that's their asshole toothbrush. 3847 02:54:51.079 --> 02:54:52.719 Don't put the toothbrush in your asshole. 3848 02:54:53.840 --> 02:54:55.319 It's the only way to get a clean hole. 3849 02:54:56.760 --> 02:54:58.879 It probably would work, but oh oh, I forgot to 3850 02:54:58.879 --> 02:55:00.600 say too. Part of the reason I don't do the 3851 02:55:00.719 --> 02:55:04.719 loofa on the guy bits or the butthole is because 3852 02:55:04.719 --> 02:55:08.280 it has such a naturally coarse thing, and I feel. 3853 02:55:08.040 --> 02:55:11.040 Like that it's like it's rough rough on that skin. 3854 02:55:11.520 --> 02:55:16.520 Don't want rough loofa towel or something on your bits 3855 02:55:16.680 --> 02:55:19.120 or your butthole. So that's why it's like it's a 3856 02:55:19.200 --> 02:55:20.239 nice feather touch on that. 3857 02:55:20.600 --> 02:55:24.280 I have a glove. I bought these like exfoliating gloves. 3858 02:55:24.360 --> 02:55:26.200 It literally glove for your hat. 3859 02:55:26.600 --> 02:55:29.399 It's an of glove for like dead skin. It's not 3860 02:55:29.479 --> 02:55:31.440 for your butthole. It's like I use it on my 3861 02:55:31.719 --> 02:55:36.879 arms and it gets all the dead skin. It's an exfoliator. 3862 02:55:37.319 --> 02:55:39.120 But I definitely you could put it on your button 3863 02:55:39.159 --> 02:55:42.079 stuff and have like a smooth, smooth baby butt if 3864 02:55:42.120 --> 02:55:45.280 you want. But I wouldn't put rough surface on the 3865 02:55:45.399 --> 02:55:47.719 tender stuff. That sounds awful. 3866 02:55:48.840 --> 02:55:51.360 Look into these of glove assholevers, Yeah, yeah, it's a 3867 02:55:51.559 --> 02:55:52.120 it's nuts. 3868 02:55:52.200 --> 02:55:56.239 There's no of glove for the asshole. They are exfoliating 3869 02:55:56.319 --> 02:55:57.920 gloves for regular parts. 3870 02:55:57.719 --> 02:56:01.079 Of the skin and what with it is your own business. 3871 02:56:01.600 --> 02:56:04.600 Jacob from Wichita. I don't think that you should listen 3872 02:56:04.680 --> 02:56:07.319 to any of this advice. In fact, most of you, 3873 02:56:07.399 --> 02:56:09.680 if you're going to ask us for like really specific 3874 02:56:09.879 --> 02:56:12.760 advice on like how to clean your body or like 3875 02:56:12.879 --> 02:56:15.719 take care of yourself, use a pseudonym or like fake name. 3876 02:56:15.840 --> 02:56:18.559 I don't think you'll want us to like give you 3877 02:56:18.680 --> 02:56:22.799 true advice here. But I think ultimately clean your holes, 3878 02:56:23.159 --> 02:56:25.680 clean the holes. I don't give a ship if you 3879 02:56:25.840 --> 02:56:30.639 use a washcloth or a loofa or you poke your 3880 02:56:30.680 --> 02:56:33.479 whole you hole through a finger or your finger through 3881 02:56:33.600 --> 02:56:35.760 like uh, your toilet paper and just stick it up 3882 02:56:35.799 --> 02:56:39.399 your butt. But like, please clean yourselves. 3883 02:56:39.120 --> 02:56:43.120 And then wash your hands was and is definitely a 3884 02:56:43.159 --> 02:56:44.680 good safe bet with most PASTA. 3885 02:56:45.760 --> 02:56:50.920 Thank you, Jacob from Wichita. A so much about Dan 3886 02:56:51.280 --> 02:56:52.840 and way too much about Dan. 3887 02:56:53.360 --> 02:56:54.799 Ask you a question. I'm going to answer it. 3888 02:56:55.440 --> 02:56:56.239 He didn't ask. 3889 02:56:58.000 --> 02:56:58.639 Was it named? 3890 02:56:58.760 --> 02:56:59.479 In this email? 3891 02:56:59.719 --> 02:56:59.760 You? 3892 02:57:00.600 --> 02:57:01.559 You weren't even brought. 3893 02:57:01.479 --> 02:57:02.479 Up Dan, Mary. 3894 02:57:02.559 --> 02:57:04.520 You were egging him on every step of the way. 3895 02:57:05.120 --> 02:57:08.200 Don't play like you had nothing to do with this. 3896 02:57:09.559 --> 02:57:13.520 I'm reading about movehead over here. I had nothing. I 3897 02:57:13.680 --> 02:57:16.520 was trying to distance myself. But anyway, that's fire Escape 3898 02:57:16.520 --> 02:57:18.680 Cast at gmail dot com. Thank you Jacob, thank you Jake, 3899 02:57:18.719 --> 02:57:24.159 Thank you doc Hensla terrible taste in movies, have fun 3900 02:57:24.200 --> 02:57:28.159 in Italy and what was Jake Jake enjoy reading? Let 3901 02:57:28.280 --> 02:57:30.440 us know what other books you read, and I'm curious 3902 02:57:30.479 --> 02:57:35.120 what your book club thinks of in the distance. Well 3903 02:57:35.159 --> 02:57:38.360 that's our episode one o one, fire Escape Cast one 3904 02:57:38.399 --> 02:57:40.239 o one. I think this was actually a pretty good 3905 02:57:40.239 --> 02:57:45.399 one oh one episode because you got the rundown on us. Yeah, 3906 02:57:45.479 --> 02:57:47.760 we'll be back in a couple of weeks. One more 3907 02:57:47.760 --> 02:57:53.319 reminder March third. If you're not a fire Escape Cast 3908 02:57:53.680 --> 02:57:55.600 Patreon subscriber and you want to watch that show with 3909 02:57:55.680 --> 02:57:59.799 Vinnie Caravella and I Vinnie from Nextlander, you can subscribe 3910 02:58:00.040 --> 02:58:01.879 that'll be up on March third. You'll also get video 3911 02:58:02.000 --> 02:58:05.680 versions of these episodes if you're normally just a listener. 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I'm checking, although I think of nope, nope, 3922 02:58:43.840 --> 02:58:44.920 deep I go to that. 3923 02:58:45.319 --> 02:58:50.760 Noire dot com goes to merch dot com. 3924 02:58:51.079 --> 02:58:52.360 Why do we keep buying these? 3925 02:58:52.879 --> 02:58:55.879 Uh? So if you want to be if you want 3926 02:58:55.879 --> 02:58:59.639 to add free episodes, or you want to get linked 3927 02:58:59.639 --> 02:59:01.920 to our store, go to Deep dishpussy dot com. 3928 02:59:02.120 --> 02:59:06.360 You can sign up outside of that. Dan, what do 3929 02:59:06.399 --> 02:59:07.479 you have going on in the meantime? 3930 02:59:08.440 --> 02:59:11.920 Giant Bomb and Twitch and Blue Sky and Instagram? Dan 3931 02:59:12.000 --> 02:59:17.319 record on everything, Mary go ah your voice. 3932 02:59:18.440 --> 02:59:22.520 I've been pretty good on trying to keep up in 3933 02:59:22.559 --> 02:59:25.680 the socials, mostly Instagram. I've been trying to do better 3934 02:59:25.680 --> 02:59:31.840 about Blue Sky and Twitch usually on Mondays, usually cool. 3935 02:59:31.959 --> 02:59:34.479 I'm mainly here unless you want to follow me on Instagram. 3936 02:59:35.319 --> 02:59:38.399 I opened a two thousand and one Kyanti Classico. It's 3937 02:59:38.440 --> 02:59:40.879 really interesting story. It's actually the last vintage. But how 3938 02:59:41.000 --> 02:59:44.200 do you clean your butthole with a wine decanter? 3939 02:59:46.040 --> 02:59:50.719 So all when you were you posted a thing of 3940 02:59:50.799 --> 02:59:53.280 you decanting a wine thing recently, and you said for 3941 02:59:53.399 --> 02:59:55.399 those asking, one of the things I. 3942 02:59:55.440 --> 02:59:58.959 Said were concerned, So I didn't realize how I post, 3943 02:59:59.000 --> 03:00:01.600 and I like eight eight people responded asking why what 3944 03:00:01.719 --> 03:00:03.319 was wrong with that bottle? No, I don't do it 3945 03:00:03.399 --> 03:00:07.120 for those asking unless people are asking. Yeah, if you 3946 03:00:07.120 --> 03:00:10.360 don't follow me the Instagram. Amanda and I we've been 3947 03:00:10.440 --> 03:00:14.959 opening some like old bottles we have, and one photo 3948 03:00:15.040 --> 03:00:17.440 I showed was me pouring out the last dregs of 3949 03:00:17.520 --> 03:00:20.040 an old wine which had quote unquote thrown a sediment, 3950 03:00:20.079 --> 03:00:21.799 which is, you know, like things had settled over the 3951 03:00:21.879 --> 03:00:26.159 years and coalesced and it had just given off stuff 3952 03:00:26.159 --> 03:00:27.719 so it becomes like a sludge at the bottom. So 3953 03:00:27.840 --> 03:00:30.360 I posted just the photo of the wine in two 3954 03:00:30.399 --> 03:00:33.200 glasses next to it, but then I posted also the 3955 03:00:33.239 --> 03:00:34.719 sledge that came out the end, so I think. 3956 03:00:34.639 --> 03:00:36.399 People thought the whole bottle was sludge. 3957 03:00:37.520 --> 03:00:41.200 Several people bottom eighth, which is usual with that year 3958 03:00:41.280 --> 03:00:43.959 of grape. It's a tanic grape. Yes, yes, Dan, I don't. 3959 03:00:43.959 --> 03:00:46.159 I don't need to cater to your lowbrow sensibilities on 3960 03:00:46.200 --> 03:00:48.239 my Instagram posts. I don't get what you think. No, 3961 03:00:48.360 --> 03:00:50.079 I want you to keep doing it because it's very 3962 03:00:50.120 --> 03:00:55.079 funny to me. Yes, but yeah, that wine was really good. 3963 03:00:56.559 --> 03:00:58.920 It was not. It was the second oldest wine I've 3964 03:00:58.920 --> 03:01:01.680 ever had and it was still the delicious. Uh. It's 3965 03:01:01.719 --> 03:01:05.079 twenty four years old, which is not crazy old, but 3966 03:01:05.360 --> 03:01:07.799 it was really good. I'm gonna I'm going to open 3967 03:01:07.879 --> 03:01:09.239 like an old wine for you at some point, Dan, 3968 03:01:09.280 --> 03:01:10.159 I think you'd like it a lot. 3969 03:01:10.360 --> 03:01:11.680 Not right, Yeah, sure, it's great. 3970 03:01:12.079 --> 03:01:16.239 Yeah but anyway. Yeah, I'm im Mahardy over on Instagram. 3971 03:01:16.959 --> 03:01:21.559 That's it. That's our episode. We'll be back in two weeks. 3972 03:01:23.079 --> 03:01:26.760 In the meantime, Oh, Mary, I'm going to promise it now, 3973 03:01:26.920 --> 03:01:29.159 just so we stay accountable. Mary and I are going 3974 03:01:29.200 --> 03:01:32.159 to finish Resumel four remake for Knievel Thanks or whatever 3975 03:01:32.239 --> 03:01:35.479 we call it, KENI we have. 3976 03:01:35.840 --> 03:01:37.719 It's been I think six months since we did the 3977 03:01:37.760 --> 03:01:38.520 penultimate episode. 3978 03:01:38.559 --> 03:01:39.719 I don't want to know. We're going to finish it. 3979 03:01:40.000 --> 03:01:41.959 We're going to finish it. That'll be up. If you're 3980 03:01:42.000 --> 03:01:44.319 not subscribed to our YouTube channel, go subscribe to that. 3981 03:01:45.479 --> 03:01:48.559 That's where we post those. We will finish it because 3982 03:01:48.600 --> 03:01:50.879 that We've got a few other lost chapters of games 3983 03:01:50.959 --> 03:01:52.600 that we have you haven't played in residue Evil, but 3984 03:01:52.600 --> 03:01:53.920 we'll play those at some point. We'll try to do 3985 03:01:54.200 --> 03:01:57.719 revelations too at some point. But yeah, we're also going 3986 03:01:57.799 --> 03:02:01.159 to finish resumeelfour remake mary Is. I've been telling. 3987 03:02:00.959 --> 03:02:04.319 Her every week we got on, then kill you all right, 3988 03:02:04.440 --> 03:02:06.639 let's go all right, see. 3989 03:02:06.440 --> 03:02:07.959 Everybody in a couple of weeks. 3990 03:02:10.040 --> 03:02:10.079 But