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Jent Buschman.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Jen, I'm good, Thank you, thank you

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for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for coming on this show.

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It has been is a treat to have you on

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the show. I want to really dive into your interesting journey.

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Speaker 4: Let's say that you've had in your life journey as

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a as a psychic in developing and understanding those abilities.

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Speaker 1: And my first question is when did you first this

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cover that you weren't like everybody else, that there was

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something a little bit I want to say off, what's

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special about you.

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Speaker 3: I'm from Washington State and I was on my first

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backpacking trip with my parents, and I was five years

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old up on the Olympic Peninsula and I saw a

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sasquatch when we were backpacking, and I saw two juveniles

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in the trees and I thought they were monkeys, you know,

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they were younger sasquatch. So I turned around and said

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to my dad, you didn't tell me there were monkeys

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up here in the trees, you know, that we had

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them in our forest. And he said, there are no

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monkeys here.

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Speaker 2: You know, stop it.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't stop because I kept seeing them. They

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were playing kind of like jumping from tree to tree

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as we were hiking along the plank out to the beach,

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and so I kept, you know, kind of pestering him, like,

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you know, I'm seeing this, aren't you seeing this? And

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so I got then, you know, we moved on, and

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then I was separated from the group and behind and

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I was tying my shoes, looked up and there was

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the mother with the two juveniles, and I knew that

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something was different, you know, because she was covered in

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hair and she looked like my mom, you know, and

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so but she telepathically told me to catch up, you know,

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go join your family. Catch up, because I was all excited.

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I wanted to play, you know, and so I kept

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asking my dad about it, and he kind of got angry,

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and so I shut down. Then that kindergarten, So I

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went to school that fall, started kindergarten, and I was

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taken with other kids up to the resource room and

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we were tested and it was by a group of people,

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mostly men, and they didn't look like the other teachers,

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you know, because that end of the school, you know,

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first grade, in kindergarten, teachers looked like Grandma's.

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Speaker 1: Right, very much suck, very much sun.

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Speaker 3: And so I didn't trust this man who sat me

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down and was asking me questions like, have you ever

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experienced anything that you couldn't explain? Anything that was odd,

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anything that was weird.

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Speaker 1: This is at school, Yes, how old were you?

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Speaker 2: I was five?

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Speaker 1: There's five and they out of the blue, they.

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Speaker 3: Just they tested six of us. And so my friend Jeff,

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who I communicated with telepathically all through school where we

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grew up, we knew each other, and so he was

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there and he was like, don't answer them. And I

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didn't trust this man. I didn't like his energy. I

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didn't like you know, I didn't trust him.

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Speaker 2: I knew that.

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Speaker 3: There was this was about ulterior motives, but you know,

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in your little five year old head, it was just

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like I don't like you, you know, you just don't

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seem like all the others.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So later what I learned was that some kids were

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like put into a program and developed as psychics to

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work for the government.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had that. We've had people on the show

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who've talked about that program about either remote viewing, those

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kind of things. That was a real government program and

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there was a real psychic psychic spies essentially.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, so I was not. I mean I just

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shut down. I believe he was psychic because I felt

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like he was reading me. I mean, I felt like

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Alex that he almost knew what I had experienced that summer.

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Speaker 1: Right, but couldn't pin but couldn't pinpoint it, or at

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least couldn't break through whatever you were. You were blocking them. Essentially,

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that's that's fascinating. I've never actually met someone who's who's

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been recruited into that program and you said no because

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you were five. So there's that. It's almost very it's

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almost very Stranger Things eighties style movie kind of scenario.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So so at that point, I mean, you start you

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start noticing that you're not like the other kids. No

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things are and and and there comes a realization I

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assume at some point you're like, oh, everybody can't do this.

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Speaker 3: Right, You know, and I I felt trees, you know,

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I feel the frequency of rocks. I feel I would

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know what people were thinking, and I would know, you know, animals,

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what was wrong with them?

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Speaker 1: But Jen, let me ask you, but let me ask

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you this then, as a five year old or even

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as an adolescent, how did you deal with this psychologically?

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Did you? I mean, did you have someone in the

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family who's guiding you through this whole problem? You're like, oh, Jen,

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you've got the fa You've got the gift, there's that

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those things, or there's the other family which is like,

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what's wrong with Jen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jen's blacksheet. That's what I was.

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Speaker 1: I was there. So if you're the freakazoid in the family,

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how did you sorry, that's a very technical term freakazoid

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by the way, how did you deal psychologically at such

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a young age? Because you don't have any tools at

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that age or experience to deal with this, So how

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did you deal with it?

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Speaker 3: Well? Because and that's what happened, So going down a

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rabbit hole. I do work with kids now who are

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a psychic, and I counsel them in the way that

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I wish that I was, you know, to learn how

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to mostly managing your reaction to your gift, because when

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you are open and you're inundated with feeling people's feelings,

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knowing what people are thinking, knowing what the weather is

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going to be, right, seeing things in the future, of

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what's going to happen exactly. I felt very separate. But

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then my father's reaction and I'm not blaming my dad

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or anything like that, that's not what this is. It's

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just this is what happens. My dad's reaction when we

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were in the forest was kind of like quiet. It

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was like he knew that I knew that he knew

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he knew something was up because I was always this

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kind of kid into everything.

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Speaker 2: Why why Why?

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Speaker 3: And I'd be off in my own little world, but

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I would know what he was up to, and he

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knew that there was something. So that is what I'm

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saying is that was a moment where it shut me

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down and like it started to if you envision a flower,

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as my friend Michelle says, you know, you see yourself

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wide open, and it just started to really close me down.

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Speaker 2: And then it did. It got really really.

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Speaker 3: Bad in my teens because the flower opened back up

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around eleven and that's what happens, like my grandmother called

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on the phone.

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Speaker 2: I told my.

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Speaker 3: Dad and she said, have your dad talk to me.

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And grandma had died years ago, but she you know,

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so I told my dad, I said, Grandma risk.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, And I'm assuming that didn't go.

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Speaker 3: Over well, no, no, because then you know, then he's like, you're,

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you know, messing with.

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Speaker 2: Me, and I'm like, no, I'm not, but.

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And this is you know, this is a I'm assuming

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in the you know, later part of the twentieth century.

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So it's not as open psychics and mediums and channels

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and spirituality and metaphysics. It's not a real kind of

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known thing near death experiences. We're just kind of getting

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off the ground. It's not where we are today, where

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a lot of the concepts that we're talking about are

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more accepted or at least understood, whether you accept or

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not it is. It's not like witchcraft. We're not going

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to be burned at this stake tomorrow by having these conversations.

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So I imagine back then this was absolutely taboo. Were you

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raised religious?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Were you in a religious hottol.

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Speaker 3: No, No, we didn't go to church.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's just like it. But it's still a

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TABOOI kind of thing back then.

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Speaker 3: It's really interesting though, because my great grandma was really metaphysical,

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like she would heal people. She was a nurse. She

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owned a lot of land in Tacoma, Washington, and so

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there's a funny story about the land how they carved

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I five through it and she went to the door

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with a gun and demanded that they pay her for

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trying to kick her off her land. But she was

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a nurse, but she was a healer and she had gifts.

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I know, I knew, you know, how you get these

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messages is that it's not okay to And then I

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did try to talk to my mom about it because

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my mom was very attracted, you know, ember Noostradamus was

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kind of been in his predictions as quatrains, and my

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mom was hanging out with her really good friend who's

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very spiritual, and her sisters and they had gifts and

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they would go to eastern Washington and meet the psychic.

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the psychic in the family, and I was kind of like, oh,

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and you know, so it made me think I just

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kind of evolved into you know, I'm crazy, So this

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is something wrong with me.

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Speaker 1: So this is something very interesting. So because I from

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my understanding that these gifts are passed down heretically and genetically.

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but sometimes grandma or aunt or uncle or someone had

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the gift and it's kind of passed down generation. Sometimes

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it skips a generation, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes like possibly

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your mom would just like nope, even if I had it,

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I'm not gonna do anything about it, kind of and

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they shut it down and it keeps coming through. So

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it was in your line, if you will, in your bloodline,

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quote unquote, there was some sort of gift, but no

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one talked about it because back then and Grandma's time,

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you definitely never talked about something. Right, you had just

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been ousted. So that's really fascinating. So as you're growing up,

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you think you're crazy, you think you're going nuts with this,

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by the way, very common. I've spoken to many side

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kicks and channels and other people who I go so

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you thought you were nuts? Right, So how did you

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have no guidance, you have no the information. This show

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was in in existence back then, so you couldn't watch

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a show and go, oh, I'm not crazy. I might

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have what these people are talking about. The books weren't

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this thought that you were nuts?

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Speaker 3: Well, when I was nineteen, I had a suicide attempt,

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fifteen on, it just got worse and worse.

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Speaker 1: Well, teenageers are tough. Cheers are tough in general, let alone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and then with you know, just not being

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able to talk about what was going on with me

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and all the other stuff with my family dynamics. Yeah,

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I tried to kill myself and I met my spirit

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Guyed Pink during that attempt, and I didn't realize that

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was my spirit guide that but I met him in

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physical form and he told me because my grandma Leila

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had passed, my friend Chris Pagan had passed.

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Speaker 2: He died of a.

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Speaker 3: Brain tumor when he was six, and so you know,

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they were there at the tunnel, and my grandmother sent

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me back and I was pulled back into the room

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and there was this man standing by the bed, very tall,

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wearing a checkered red and black shirt. Because I grew

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up in Seattle, my brother was in the grunge scene,

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so I really identified with grunge. I was into that.

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Speaker 1: That was.

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Speaker 3: So your spirit guys will present themselves to you in

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a way that they think you see them as relevant. Right,

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So he told me it was not always going to

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be this way, kind of pretty much a pep talk

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of hang in there. You you have a purpose here

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on this planet, and just hang on. It's not always

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going to be like this for you. And I thought, wow,

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this is a really weird thing for a volunteer firefighter

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to say, but you know, it was reassuring. And then

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my boyfriend came home and he called nine one one,

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and so all that got through that And a few

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days later I was walking up to my car, which

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I drove a blue carmen Ghia and my good friend

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had a yellow one. So we were really into our

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carmen Ghias. We were commuting to college together and I

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kept seeing this pink carmen Gia.

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Speaker 2: And I would when we go through.

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Speaker 3: A stoplight or you know, I would see this really

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pretty color of pinky purple and I would say, Kathy,

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you know, because we were always on the lookout for

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carmen ghas and I would see this, but at the

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time I was just really really struggling, but I would

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always see his car. So when after I got home

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from the hospital and I was walking up to my car,

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we lived on a busy road in the harbor, and

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that pink Carmenhia was really slowly coming around and it

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like slowed down and it was so weird. It was

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almost shimmering, and it was that it was that guy,

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the volunteer firefighter that was standing next to my bed,

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and he was just waving at me, and I was just.

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Speaker 2: Like my jaw was on the ground.

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Speaker 3: It was And I didn't understand at that time what

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that was, who he is, what this was. I just thought,

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oh my god, my life is weird. So, you know,

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it was just so strange.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but you had enough self awareness to know

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that there was something off that you know, you didn't

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fall into like, oh this is you didn't you didn't

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drink the kool aid as they said you you were

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kind of like, hey, wait a minute, man, things are

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just so weird and I got no guidance here, And

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it seems like your spirit guide is coming around, going

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it's going to be okay. It's these little signs to

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kind of keep you going even though he couldn't sit

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you down and go, look, this is the deal, because

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that's did eventually eventually. Well also, and this is really interesting,

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and this is something I found interesting from people I've

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spoken to that they the other side won't give you

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information until you're ready for it, exactly. They will not

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because you're not prepared for it. And I always use

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the example of a lottery You know, if you win

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one hundred million dollars tomorrow and you really don't know

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what to do with that kind of energy coming towards you,

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it could destroy you, as it does most lottery winners,

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because they're not they're not psychologically prepared, ego prepared, spiritually prepared,

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financial literacy prepared, none of that stuff to deal with

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that kind of energy. So it's a gift that you're

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not getting the information maybe when you want it, but

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you'll get it when you need it.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, sir, very good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So So at what point did you start to

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understand truly what your gift was and started to embrace

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the gift, at least in a private standpoint before you,

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as you say, wave your freak flag out for all

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to see. I know there's a there's a little step

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between that and where we are right now. So how

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did you embrace finally embrace you your gift?

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Speaker 2: Well, because things, you know, were weird.

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Speaker 3: And then at twenty two I met a woman who

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was my therapist.

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Speaker 2: You told me that she was walking and an alien.

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Speaker 3: I know you don't talk about aliens, yeah, but you know,

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but there is a purpose there, there are et guides

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that we have and it's very real. And so she

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entered my life and after nine months of working together,

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I mean, she helped me so much because this is

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when I was twenty two and I was in school

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and I was always you know, I was better after

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the nineteen year old incident, but still fundfully this low

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grade depression that just kept going up and down. But

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it was a little better than where I had been,

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but it was still a struggle. And she was wonderful,

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helped me in such different ways than I had ever

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been helped. And then the last two sessions because I

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was moving to Hawaii and she was going home.

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Speaker 2: It is how she put it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: And then the last two sessions she told me who

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she was and why she was here and why I'm here.

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And I was like, you know, when you hear that

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and you already you're crazy, right, and you've spent that

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nine months just really opening up to whom you think

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is your therapist. Right then it was like, you know,

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telling myself, oh my god, I really am delusional. I

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really am nuts. But there was that piece because I

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was so convinced that I was nuts, because I marinated

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in this energy of belief in my family and.

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Speaker 1: The people I was so programming.

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Speaker 3: To reaffirm that that I was nuts. But there was

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that other side where it all made so much sense.

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Speaker 2: It was so right.

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Speaker 3: So I did see her go home. I was going

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to move to Hawaii in two days, and I had

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been down at my family's house in Gay Harbor and

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was driving home and I was coming up through the

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mountains because I lived in Mellingham at the time in

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Washington State, coming down. It's this awesome part of the

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highway where you come up to go through the mountains

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and come down, And as I was cresting, I looked

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up through my sun roof and there was an upside

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down craft looked like that aircraft carrier, and so I did.

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I saw Courtney go home, and then I had missing

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time and all that stuff. But that was really significant

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for me because fast forward through my life and I'm

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seeing Pink, you know, on the beach in Waikiki in

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his webon black checked shirt, and I'm like, oh my god,

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I'm seeing that guy. So I'm telling myself I am delusional.

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Speaker 2: I am crazy.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing people. There's yeah, dead people you're seeing. It's weird.

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It's weird. I get you, y, that's it's a beautiful mind.

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You're like a beautiful mind.

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Speaker 3: Right bartending on the beach in Waikiki. And I know

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what everybody's thinking. I know what they're going to drink

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before they order it. I mean, I know, you know.

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you just absorb like a fun So not only is

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it crazy making here like geez, you known people just

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don't do this, but not understanding how energy works and

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frequency works and how to use this to move humanity along?

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Speaker 2: Right, So when.

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Speaker 3: I was fifty two, I went to this young psychiatrist

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or nurse practitioner to get help.

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Speaker 2: Because it was just getting really, really bad.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, I need this, is this

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and this, you know, these medications and I think if

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I do four electric chuck treatments, I'll be it'll zap

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it out. And he just kind of looked at me.

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He just smiled and he was like, jen you guys,

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have you ever thought maybe you're psychic? And I was like, oh,

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here we go again. And it was like, oh my gosh, why.

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Speaker 1: Do I keep attracting all these crazy people around, these

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crazy mental health people?

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Speaker 3: So he said I know you are because I am.

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And man, in that moment, Alex, it was it was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like the world came together. So all

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those mental health insurance paid appointments turned into coaching session sessions.

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He told me explain to me who I was. Like,

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I would say, okay, so when I do this and

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this and this, and he would say, oh my, got

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to that's this and he would say, well, what hits

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do you get about that? And I mean it was

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just fantastic, you guys. It was so oh, it was

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so liberating, and like, oh, finally.

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Speaker 1: And this is in your fifties, you're doing this. Yeah,

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so I was.

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Speaker 2: That's five years ago.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, Now that you are

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aware of you're obviously your gift, and you have a

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bunch better understanding of the other side and sold blueprints

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and soul plans and these kind of things, why did

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you have to go through fifty two years of all

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of this crap of not understanding who you were? Thinking?

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You're crazy thinking? Because there's other people who have your gift,

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who have a supportive family, or has a friend that

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they meet in their twenties, or reads a book that

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really opens them up, or finds an organ is it

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something that helps guide them? You had apparently very little

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guidance other than your therapist, which you still didn't kind

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of believe at that point to you find why do

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you think you had to go through that in this life?

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Speaker 3: Well to get me to today to what I do now?

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I mean, now I am just my days are full

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from three am until nine at night helping.

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Speaker 1: But the struggle, But the struggle is what got you

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because there's a struggle. So you went through hell beating

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yourself up over these years. And trust me, I have

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a similar story on my own, not nearly as entertaining

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as yours, but of what I had to go through

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to get to where I am right now. So I

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understand the value of it, Yes, but but I still

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sometimes go Is it because I asked for Obviously I

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asked for this. Obviously this is the journey that I

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needed to go through, you know, But could I could

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I be who I am today if I would have

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gotten this information twenty years ago? Did I need twenty

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years of this hell? Like I'm telling you, like, did

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I need Could I got it? Could I meet this

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psychotherapist at thirty?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That would you know? I really need twenty more years

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of this in seventy Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So is that that's what I'm asking?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well you said it. You said that we.

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Speaker 3: Aren't ready for information and that it was ready. So

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it's a sole contract. So soul contracts are what we

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experience here in the third dimension? Is humans? In no

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other dimension do we experience emotion the way that we

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do here. I mean, if you think about it, every

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single interaction that you have Every relationship that you have

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is through emotion. You even have a relationship with somebody

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that you're driving alongside of on the freeway and they

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speed up and you notice them. It's always through emotion.

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And so what Courtney, and that's why I do soul

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contract work with people with folks, is to understand all

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the relationships. All this experiences that we have in our

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life are frequency. It's energy, and it's understanding what is

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the energy that is being reflected back to you that

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which you need to learn and we do it through

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our relationships. It's not like I chose the parents that

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I had or the family that I had when I

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was at the top of the slide and incarnated into

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this lifetime. I you do this with other souls, and

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it's not like, you know, I chose the soul next

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to me. That's not how it works. It works like

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I will show up in a way that will teach

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you to love yourself. And I would say to the

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soul next to me, I'm going to show up in

475
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,279
a way that will teach you belongingnes right. And so

476
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:14,640
we incarnate and then my mother and my father they

477
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,079
showed up as my mother and father. So it's not

478
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:24,400
like we choose these experiences and it's not like because

479
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,400
see we're attaching emotion when we judge like that. It's

480
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:32,359
just is it so s up to reflect back to you.

481
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,039
So I was ready when I was ready, and now

482
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,799
I needed all of that experience, all of that pain,

483
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,160
all of that joy, all of that everything that I

484
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:50,480
experienced in order to do the job that I do today.

485
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: So when you're on the other side and you're putting

486
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,319
together the soul contract, and I have spoken to so

487
00:29:57,359 --> 00:29:59,960
many people in regards to soul contracts, from your deaths

488
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,799
experiances to psychics, channels and all that. So my understanding

489
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:05,799
of it from not being a psychic, uh and not

490
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,279
actually speaking to the other side. And then please tell me.

491
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,519
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

492
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:20,279
and now back to the show. From what you're telling

493
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,319
me is that from what I understand, there are major

494
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:27,000
checkpoints along the journey that you have to get to,

495
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,599
uh that you're gonna you're gonna marry this person, You're

496
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,000
gonna be an architect, you're gonna be this or that,

497
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:39,359
and there's moments that that you have to get to. Now,

498
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,079
how you get there is truly up to you. You

499
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,960
can go the long way, the short way, all that stuff,

500
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,720
but there are checkpoints that you have that that you're like, hey,

501
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,519
I really would like to know what it feels like

502
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:55,319
to be obscenely rich in this lifetime, and like, would

503
00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:58,000
you like to start, Rachel, would you like to become rich? Oh?

504
00:30:58,119 --> 00:30:59,920
I don't know. Less I think I'd like to become

505
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,240
rich and actually earn my way up there. Maybe the

506
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:05,079
next life I'll do hereditarian. I'll just be born into

507
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,880
a rich family. I don't know. And then okay, okay,

508
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,400
So if that's what you want, then you're gonna need

509
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,839
to go here here and hear. How you get there

510
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,680
is up to you. But that's what you that's your

511
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,680
experience that you want to get. That's an experience level

512
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,599
of it. Now you go into a deeper level going, okay,

513
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,400
I really would like to learn empathy. Okay, if you

514
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,839
want to learn empathy in this life, Okay, you talk

515
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,400
to another soul who's in your soul group. You say,

516
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:32,240
I will show up sometime in your life to teach

517
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:36,160
you this lesson. If you need to go, I need

518
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,279
to feel what it's like to be you know, and

519
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:42,359
I use this as an example, because I had my

520
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880
own devil that showed up when I was in my

521
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,759
twenties who was an ex gangster who you know, tortured

522
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:50,880
me for about a year when I was trying to

523
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,079
make a movie with him, and he taught me so

524
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,319
much about my life. And I imagine that when I

525
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:58,720
was on the other side, I asked somebody, and I

526
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:00,920
asked one of the souls in the like, oh, I

527
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,079
got you in this life. I'm gonna be and I'm

528
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:06,759
going to come in and I'm going to teach a

529
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:10,279
lot of people these lessons while I'm learning my lessons.

530
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,680
So if you want to just swing over, I'll make

531
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,720
sure to take care of your lesson for you. And

532
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:18,160
I'm like cool, So it's am, I am. I kind

533
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,000
of getting the idea.

534
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:24,599
Speaker 3: Correct, you are, But understand that his lesson him acting

535
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,279
this way, him experiencing the emotion he is from acting

536
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,799
like that, choosing that behavior correct.

537
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's going to learn his lessons from his

538
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:36,759
sen and I'm going to learn my lessons from my end.

539
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,960
It's and it just when I when I heard all

540
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,400
of this stuff years ago about soul contracts and sol blueprints,

541
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,039
all this stuff starting to make more sense. You know,

542
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:52,359
it might not be the the way everybody thinks of life.

543
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:54,200
But when I was like, oh, that kind of makes

544
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,839
more sense than oh, if we don't if we do bad,

545
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,079
we're going to go down to an eternal hell, it

546
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,160
didn't make any sense to me. But this actually makes

547
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,559
sense to me. And okay, so that's so things are

548
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,039
quote unquote negative. Things are happening to my life. They're

549
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:09,759
not happening to me, they're happening for me.

550
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:13,599
Speaker 2: They're happening for you. Yes, And it is.

551
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: Not easy to feel that when it's happening to you.

552
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,640
Youop very easy in the back, like, oh, years ago,

553
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,599
that was great that all that horror that I went through, right,

554
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,400
But when you're in the horror, it's very difficult to

555
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,039
deal with that. And it happens to me every still

556
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:33,400
happens to me all the time, like why is this happening?

557
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,160
Why did this happen? And I'm like, oh, you know what,

558
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,559
I might not understand what the reasoning is for this,

559
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,599
but I might figure it out down the road, and

560
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,680
you just kinda kind of roll with the punches that way.

561
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,319
So so okay, so let's just go back real quick

562
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,519
so you're now you understand who you are, what you

563
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,640
what your abilities are, and now the big question is

564
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,359
you're a closeted psychic. At this point, you have come

565
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:03,279
out and and I love the term fly your freak flag.

566
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,519
I think that's great. That should be you should fly

567
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,000
a freeflag. Dot com should be any websites.

568
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: I think that's in my book. I'm trying to figure

569
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,960
out the title for it.

570
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,639
Speaker 1: Oh, it's beautiful, and it's a beautiful title. I think

571
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,719
I'm gonna fly my freak flag. What is this? At

572
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,519
what point did you finally get the courage to come

573
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:28,159
out of that psychic closet and go, okay, guys, this

574
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,000
is what I do.

575
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: Well. I started on YouTube.

576
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:38,599
Speaker 3: And I started just you know, using tro cards on

577
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:46,079
current events. And I did that for a while and

578
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:51,239
it was fun. It was wonderful because I started in

579
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,400
two ways. You know, I was engaging in my gift,

580
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,480
but I was also meeting people that shared my gift

581
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:07,519
or encouraged it, or also felt like they didn't belong

582
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,800
and they found we found belonging this and inclusion in

583
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:16,559
the YouTube community in this particular arena.

584
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting that after you discovered after fifty two

585
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,400
and all this information came in that you started to

586
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,360
attract people who supported what you were doing, like minded

587
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,960
people before that, they were few and far between. If ever,

588
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,719
it's very and all of a sudden, then you got

589
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,360
this embarrassment of riches now with all these people showing up,

590
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,960
and you're like, where were you twenty years ago?

591
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,079
Speaker 2: Right? Exactly? Yeah, it's how it works.

592
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it happened just as it was supposed to,

593
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,480
because then I started to do readings for people, and

594
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:01,599
I kind of I saw Torou as a way to

595
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:03,119
kind of hide in a sense.

596
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: You know.

597
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: It was like using cards in a systematic way of

598
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,679
you know, tapping in.

599
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 2: The spirit maybe, and it kept.

600
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 3: You know, kept like like another like a slayer. Yeah.

601
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,840
And so but then I got more and more confidence

602
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:30,119
and more and just really with the encouragement of the

603
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:34,559
community that I was in to just be myself, to

604
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,800
just be me. And so it has it's just evolved

605
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,000
into you know, I do star seed readings. I can

606
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,559
tell you where you come from your birth star, but

607
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,760
what your purpose is, why you came back to the

608
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,840
third dimension? What is your contract? I see the dimensions

609
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,800
and I understand I channel dimensions, the spiritual messages from

610
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,559
the dimensions sole contract work. I've created a class around

611
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:09,559
that and help folks move through phases. We use Danielle

612
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,239
McKinnon's work, but I'm in the process of writing my

613
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,199
own book about it. You know, it's just it's grown

614
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,840
and grown. I teach meditation, and I'm just me and

615
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,719
I have no problem talking about ets or talking about sasquatch.

616
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,239
I mean, I went and had a sasquatch reading with

617
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,079
Gail Fowler, the Urban Shaman, and she told me the twins,

618
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:38,599
remember the twins.

619
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: That I saw, that they were there when.

620
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: My son was born.

621
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: Because she channeled exactly what happened when my son was born.

622
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,719
It's a different Nobody would know that. It's a very

623
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,440
it was a difficult berth.

624
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: And so they are here now.

625
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: So when I do my healings and clearings, I tap

626
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,159
into them. And Rosie, she's my sasque watch that when

627
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,599
I do medical intuitives, and I go in and I

628
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:06,840
see what's going on with your body and the blockage

629
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,960
and how to help you release that, move it and

630
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:13,719
help you heal or diagnose illness. They help me so

631
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,119
I know that it seems pretty like whoa, that's my

632
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:23,800
freak flag. Right, It's pretty it's pretty.

633
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: Colorful, colorful to say the least, to say the least.

634
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:28,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that you.

635
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,559
Speaker 1: Tap into different dimensions, and I've had many guests on

636
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:35,320
the show that channel from different dimensions, and even spiritual

637
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,199
masters and yogis who obviously discussed this. I always find

638
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,000
fascinating is no matter who I'm talking to, all the

639
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:44,280
truths are similar or are they all? The truth is

640
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,480
a truth is a truth. It's a truth. Very few

641
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,480
contradictions I ever ever hear from multiple from people from

642
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:53,880
all walks of life, all traditions. When you get to

643
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,280
the real core of it, it's really interesting. So dimensions

644
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,559
is fascinating to me because one of my favorite things

645
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:02,920
to talk about parallel realities, the multiverse, all of that

646
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,880
kind of stuff, and then of course just the different

647
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,599
phases of dimensions that we have, the third dimension, fourth dimension,

648
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,800
fifth and so on. Can you talk a little bit

649
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,320
about your work in these other dimensions, how you're able

650
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,559
to tap into them, and what they can teach us

651
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,760
in this dimension?

652
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,199
Speaker 3: Well? Yes, So it started with when I was a

653
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,800
child and I would wind up when I would go

654
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,880
into the woods because we lived in the woods on

655
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,920
I grew up on an island in the South Puget Sound.

656
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:35,960
And so when I would be in the you know,

657
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,599
by myself out in the woods walking down to the

658
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,199
you know, the road for the school bus, I would

659
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,199
I would walk through like different times and different places.

660
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:55,159
And it started that way. And it started with colors

661
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:57,000
and frequencies and light.

662
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: And then as.

663
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,119
Speaker 3: I I grew and I was, you know, speaking with

664
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:08,119
the psychiatric nurse practitioner and trying to understand what is

665
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:12,880
all this this color, these places I go and I wind.

666
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:18,199
Speaker 1: Up and we'll be right back after a word from

667
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,760
our sponsor and now back to the show.

668
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,599
Speaker 2: Uh you know.

669
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: I was explained, well, that's that's dimensional work, and you know,

670
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:35,000
and he counseled me and said to just ask, ask

671
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:40,480
for clarification. And so as I honed my skills, I

672
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:45,400
can I can use dream time really effectively, you know

673
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,119
as to where I want to go. I have certain

674
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:53,239
ritual that I do to line up my aspects and

675
00:40:53,840 --> 00:41:00,639
that's that's how I get there. But it took time

676
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,199
to really understand. And then Courtney, when she came back

677
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,679
to me in the guide form that she is, she

678
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,599
helps me to understand what it means, and so then

679
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:17,719
I channel the meanings from the dimensions.

680
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: So the one thing I've heard many times and you

681
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,840
just kind of touched upon it, is that the other side,

682
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:31,039
in all of its forms, do not interfere because we

683
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,840
all have free will in our lives. But if you

684
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:39,519
ask for help, help shows up, they won't show up

685
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:44,760
without being prompted. They're funny that way, even though they could,

686
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,000
like this person obviously needs a little help, I haven't

687
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,159
asked for You know the rules. We can't go down

688
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,920
or we can't do anything. We can't send a person,

689
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,280
we can't turn on a song, or we can't show

690
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,639
them the movie or a book that they need to

691
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,159
read until they ask for help. And I think that's

692
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,119
the lesson that all of us need to learn. And

693
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:04,639
we're having struggles in life, ask for help, ask for

694
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,639
clear clarification, and this information does get to you. It's

695
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:11,840
it happened in my life many times where I'm like

696
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,320
what and don't just yell out why is it happening

697
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,960
to me? That's not what I'm saying. Be a little

698
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,039
bit more strategic with the way you ask it. But

699
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:21,920
would you agree that's the way it works exactly.

700
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: And that's what I tell my folks is that your

701
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000
spirit guides are not your parents.

702
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: You know they they do not.

703
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not as if your parents can't be

704
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,960
your guides. That's not what I'm saying, or the crossed

705
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000
over loved ones. What I'm saying is your spirit guides.

706
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,039
They're not micromanaging you.

707
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:40,519
Speaker 2: They're not.

708
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: They will offer you and give you messages.

709
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,039
Speaker 2: They will nudge you.

710
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: When they see that maybe this will split your soul,

711
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:59,559
they will enter and there will be an intervention. But no,

712
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,119
it's because and that's the eighth dimension. That's where the

713
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:08,119
Acoschek records lie. That's where the library of you exists.

714
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:11,920
Your past, your present, your future. But we have free will,

715
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,840
and so we can change that at any moment, and

716
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,440
we do that, and we are supposed to do that.

717
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,119
To think that your life is already mapped out, where

718
00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:28,880
is the beauty in that? There is no ascension in

719
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,000
that is what Paine says.

720
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,079
Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of like playing a video game. If

721
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,760
you already have all the answers, or you have the

722
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,639
invincibility token and you can just kind of walk through everything,

723
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,639
it becomes boring. It becomes boring. But what's the point.

724
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:51,519
You've got to only have three players, three men, as

725
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,239
they say, to play the game. If you die once,

726
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:57,079
you got to come back. But you better learn around

727
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,920
the corner because you're not You only got three shots

728
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,000
at this, let's say in a video game scenario. So

729
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,960
a lot of people think, oh, everything's predestined, Yes, and no,

730
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:11,440
I would agree that there is those landmarks, those those

731
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:14,599
markers on the highway that you will get to. That's

732
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:17,239
predestined because you set it up that way. But how

733
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,440
you get there you can go, oh, you could take

734
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,719
ten year detour to get to that place. And that's

735
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,960
also to my understanding. The spirit guides and the universe

736
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,039
is a general statement, will start to nudge you and

737
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,320
push you in the direction that you requested to go.

738
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,079
But you have free will, so you're kind of going

739
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,480
off the reservation. And they first they they whisper, then

740
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,880
they tap, then they nudge, and eventually a car hits

741
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,800
you and ze, actually you're here with a sledgehammer across

742
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,159
the head. And because you're like you apparently not getting it,

743
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:48,800
so we got to stop you. And then you know,

744
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:51,280
and that's where near death experiences come. In sometimes and

745
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,639
that's where it like you had a near death experience

746
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:57,280
and had a spirit guide come in and go, look, yeah,

747
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,840
apparently we apparently you've gone so far off the reservation

748
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,480
you need to at least can't give you all the

749
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,719
information because you're head to looks blode. Yeah, but we're

750
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,760
going to let you know that there's something happening here

751
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,119
right there is something that's fascinating. So let me so

752
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,679
let me ask you, as you've been doing your work

753
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:20,880
as a psychic, what do you see happening for our

754
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:25,639
our this great consciousness shift that I keep talking about

755
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,440
and then a lot of people are talking about this

756
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,440
the higher consciousness we're all as as a species. We

757
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,679
are rising and raising our or shifting into a higher

758
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,719
state of consciousness because obviously we're having these conversations. So

759
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:41,960
that means that there is definitely a shift from when

760
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,960
you were born to where we are now. There's been

761
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:50,440
a shift. Where do you see us going as as

762
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,280
a as a collective on the spiritual side first, and

763
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,440
then we'll get into some of the other stuff.

764
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: We are.

765
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: We are rising and growing and we are unifying. This

766
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,559
is kind of a long answer, and I'll try to

767
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:11,639
make it as ascinct as possible. So you talk about

768
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:15,119
the multiverse, So just think of the universe the whole

769
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,360
time and space and consciousness.

770
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,599
Speaker 2: Why we are here? What are we here for? What

771
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,119
is this?

772
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:24,599
Speaker 3: It's pretty you know, it's pretty far out in the

773
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:27,800
third dimensional because we are on the linear number line

774
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,360
to imagine, you know, to really understand. We have moments

775
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,800
where we remember because our soul exists in many different

776
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:44,679
dimensions at one time. But understand that us in this

777
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,119
universe that we are in, in our galaxy, and we

778
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,159
are rimmed with other galaxies. It's kind of like think

779
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:56,239
of it as districts in the multiverse, right, and so

780
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,480
we all unite in our consciousness us, all beings, all

781
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:07,320
souls that are in this particular ring are united. I

782
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,719
know it's kind of far out to think about, but

783
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:16,440
things evolve. The universe is expanding, Things change the consciousness,

784
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:20,320
our consciousness is changing, and you can see it here

785
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:21,760
on the Earth.

786
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:22,119
Speaker 2: Right.

787
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: We're kind of in our politics, in the geopolitics. It's

788
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:31,400
like the world is like whoa, It is so divided,

789
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:36,320
it's so black and white, but we need that. You

790
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,639
need the darkness in order to see the light. So

791
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,000
understand that our light is pretty darn big. If we're

792
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:50,000
seeing the darkness being refracted back to us the way

793
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:54,519
that it is, that it's a sign that we are growing.

794
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:55,199
Speaker 2: That is the.

795
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: Messages that I get is that we are moving beyond

796
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:04,800
on this, that collectively are collective conscious we are rising,

797
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:08,400
we are sending back to the sun. So when we

798
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,239
PLoP out of the light when we are born, when

799
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,239
our soul is born, it's kind of like what I

800
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,199
see is it's almost like the sun or a star

801
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,039
or a big light, and we kind of we flop

802
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:24,079
out and we join our soul family and it's almost

803
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:27,719
a ring, and everybody goes off and does their jobs

804
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,559
between one and fifteen. Then we reunite, we become a

805
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:36,920
collective consciousness, and we decend back to the sun. Now

806
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,840
I've asked to be shown, you know, what it's like

807
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,559
back there, but I have been shown what the higher

808
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:49,639
dimensions are fifteen and beyond, and it's pretty It's light.

809
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,000
It's all about the light frequency. And when we achieve

810
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:57,920
that this doesn't.

811
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 2: Matter at all. It's like.

812
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: We have achieved what we've needed to achieve in the

813
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,760
third dimension. So understand that your earthly experience here, focus

814
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,119
on your soul contract because that's the whole point. You

815
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:21,320
will come back and redo your lifetime with the same contract.

816
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:25,760
You have contracts that you are born with. You have

817
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,000
a contract that you come in, you are born into

818
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:35,119
the universe with. Then you create these lifetime contracts from

819
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:39,320
your experiences. But understand, there's always going to be a

820
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,159
big nugget like mine is I'm not enough. I'm not enough.

821
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,719
So what I do is I've gone out and I'm

822
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,400
in experiences that reflect back to me that energy that

823
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,360
I am not enough, because I need that in order

824
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,039
for my soul to grow to rise. Thence I started

825
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:06,960
to realize that that refraction in the energy, then it

826
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,880
allows you to kind of separate from yourself, like your humanness,

827
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,639
and you see yourself as a player on a stage,

828
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,679
and then you see all the people in your life

829
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,280
and what they're reflecting back to you, and it takes

830
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:27,719
away the sting. It takes all that humanness that gets involved,

831
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:34,079
all that pain or judgment or depression, right anxiety. It

832
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:36,360
lets that go so that you can get to the

833
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,920
nugget and get the work done.

834
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: Could you get the work done here?

835
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 3: You finally work through that contract, you rise, you grow,

836
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,159
you ascend, and you become part of all that that is.

837
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:54,519
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

838
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:03,119
and now back to the show and these different layers

839
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:06,840
or dimensions. And again, none of this is news to me.

840
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,840
I've heard We've talked about this before, and we've heard

841
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,119
it before. But there's always different flavors of dimensions as

842
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:15,800
far as the vibration. That's why I always when I

843
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,880
hear near death experiences and there is a dark near

844
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,559
death experience, either Jesus or an angel or something of

845
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:26,880
a higher vibration or frequency comes down and the lower,

846
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,400
lower frequency entity just can't even they can't, they can't

847
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,719
deal with it. They have that they have, there's just

848
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,039
such a higher level and you can kind of I've

849
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:40,800
had the I've had the privilege of meeting people out

850
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,719
of higher that are a higher frequency. I think a

851
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,760
lot of people on this show, the energy that of

852
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,239
my guests a lot of times are of a much

853
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,000
higher frequency than the average Joe. If you will, and

854
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:57,519
you can sense it, you can feel a difference with them.

855
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:01,719
You could also feel when someone is very heavy and

856
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:05,760
just you know, negative and you know all that kind

857
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,599
of stuff. But what's going to ask you about the

858
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:12,000
dimensions is that the ascended masters we talk about a

859
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,960
lot of times to Jesus is of the world, the Buddhas,

860
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,239
the yoga nandas Saint Germain's, these kind of souls, the

861
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,239
baba Jee's of the world. These souls have risen to

862
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,239
a point that are they within the fish fifteen or

863
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,000
have some gone beyond the fifteen or are they still

864
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,480
stuck within the fifteen because they are helping us, because

865
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,159
they've chosen to stay down and help us.

866
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 3: Right, very good, they're like fifteenth them below.

867
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: Because they could eventually go up higher, but then they

868
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,639
would have to let go of helping.

869
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: Us, right, exactly, very good, because we wouldn't recognize it, right.

870
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, No, it's it's the equivalent. And when you

871
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,360
said that, so people understand that they wouldn't reckon. I

872
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,760
understand what you mean by that, but I'm going to

873
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,639
try to clarify for the audience because that doesn't it's

874
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:04,599
hard to grasp. We wouldn't recognize that kind of energy

875
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,360
or that kind of frequency. It would be the equivalent

876
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,480
of a tribesman somewhere in the Amazon, and we would

877
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,440
show up with all our technology and they've never seen

878
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:19,159
if you can even find a human being, I'm sure

879
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:22,239
there are human beings still that have never touched or

880
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,280
seen a white person or I've never seen, you know,

881
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,719
this kind of technologies that we have now. Showing up

882
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,039
with this kind of stuff in a car for the

883
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:33,119
first time, or seeing an airplane fit. It's so far

884
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:38,440
beyond their reality that they just can't even grasp what

885
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:41,519
it is. And that would be the equivalent of sixteen

886
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:42,400
and above.

887
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:46,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, wow, Yeah, they.

888
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,599
Speaker 1: Are a different They're just at a different and it's

889
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:50,880
not a higher level. It's not a better level, it's

890
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,440
just a different level. They're at a different level of

891
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,199
their evolution. It's like someone who's never read a book

892
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:58,519
before in their life, and then you meet someone who

893
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:02,719
has a PhD who's read thousands of books, just a

894
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,960
different level. By the way, the person who's never read

895
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,800
a book could be a much higherly evolved person then

896
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,800
the person who's been a thousand Trust me, I've read

897
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,039
a life a lot of PhDs who are clueless about life.

898
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:19,440
But I've met people who are quote unquote ignorant, and

899
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,639
I'm like, well, they got a couple of things figured

900
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:24,719
out along the way. So it's it's it's all relative.

901
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,320
So so with you said, there needs to be dark

902
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,639
to see the light, and we are rising in consciousness,

903
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:38,199
why is there so much war and anger and racism

904
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,800
and things that have been popping up, I mean the

905
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,679
war in the Middle East alone. You're just like, I

906
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,320
was like, what really again? Like it just I was like,

907
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,159
why are we replaying these old old songs again? You know?

908
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,559
And the things are going on with Russia and and

909
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,440
even the stuff that's going on here in the States

910
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,760
and the and the political arena, it's like and and

911
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,000
by the way, politically and all over the world, you

912
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:03,639
get to see it happening in other countries around the world.

913
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:07,320
Why are we replaying these songs again? Why are we

914
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,880
going back and treading over stuff that, in some cases

915
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,440
thousands of years old? Why haven't we learned those lessons yet?

916
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,079
Speaker 2: Right?

917
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:21,119
Speaker 3: Because that's part of being human. That's the third dimension.

918
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,039
Speaker 2: Think about the.

919
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:28,599
Speaker 3: Administration we're in now versus the last administration versus the

920
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:36,760
administration prior, very different thoughts, belief, energy, Right, we will

921
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,679
always be swinging between the polls.

922
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,639
Speaker 2: That's the third dimension.

923
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,639
Speaker 3: You will be at completely opposite ends of energy, but

924
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,480
you're holding the same rope, right. That's how we grow,

925
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:55,119
This is how we rise, this is how we assent.

926
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:01,119
Is through this history will repeat itself. We have you know,

927
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,320
wonderful that we have energies running around the Earth that

928
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,760
are saying, you know, history is here to help look

929
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,639
at what we're heading into. But it's a way. It

930
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:19,440
keeps the balance, Alex. It makes sense, keeps the equilibrium

931
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,239
because this is the whole point of us being in

932
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,000
the third dimension as human beings. We're always going to

933
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,679
have this struggle. It doesn't matter if you're on Earth

934
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,599
or if you're on Planet X somewhere where you are

935
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,719
in the third dimension. This is what it is like.

936
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:44,840
It is for this purpose. So it's for you to

937
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,920
find your center. It's for you to find your relationship

938
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,199
with spirit that nobody determines who you are.

939
00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: So you mentioned what we're heading into. What are we

940
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,360
heading into in this next year or the rest of

941
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,039
this decade, Because it seems like it's becoming a rockier

942
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,159
road as we are moving forward. And I know from

943
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:15,079
what I understand, it's going to be a little bit

944
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:17,599
of it's going to be a little bit turbulent. I

945
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:19,400
love to hear what your thoughts are and what you've

946
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:19,840
been told.

947
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,159
Speaker 3: It is going to be a little bit turbulent, but

948
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then it's going to get better.

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Speaker 1: Right, can you have Do you have any details in

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regards to that that you can give us any sort

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of I don't need dates, But just as as a

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broad brushstrokes, what what is happening to us? As you

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know we're I mean, I know the economy, geopolitics, wars.

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It doesn't seem like this is going away.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, if we continue on this same path, yes

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we are. You know, we are right on the wheel,

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the wheel of fortune, the tenth card in the tarot deck,

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right it's it means this is the wheel of free will.

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Our choices can determine our destiny, our fate. We see

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the possibility we've got the two choices we have the

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mirroring we are in that place where we are at

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choice right now. I do see relief happening in the

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middle of April. That like we're all going to take

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a little sigh of relief. I'm not gonna say it

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on the show, but we're going to feel relief in

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our politics. I see that we're I mean, do you

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want me to talk about politicians?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think I think as a as

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a general statement, I generally stay away from politics if

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it's in a broad space. You know, I don't want

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to stay on one side or the other. But if

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there is going to probably be something. Look, we're in

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you know, as we're recording this, we're in an election year.

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And regardless of which side of the of the of

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the aisle you're on, there's stuff going on, you know,

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And I think there's always good and bad on both sides,

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and so I always look at it when it comes

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to politics, because if if you ever met a politician,

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sorry all politicians out there, but as a general statement,

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what what are you seeing? You don't have to be specific,

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you don't even have to say the party's names or

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anything like that, but generally, what what do you see happening?

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Because that will determine a lot or where we're going

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as as a species. Because a lot of the stuff

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that happens in the in the US ripples brought the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the world.

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Speaker 3: People are going to choose the light, They're going to

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choose the truth. We're going to stand in light. We

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have a lot of help coming from the ascended Masters

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are angels to help. We are at a pivotal.

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Speaker 2: Point in humanity. We are at a choice and.

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Speaker 3: It's like I said, it's a sign that we are

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evolving so much that we need this kind of big, gnarly.

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Speaker 2: Meaty choice.

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Speaker 3: Right, we will choose the good, but we need the

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struggle in order to get to that point.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: You know, being spiritual, being in the third dimension, it's

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a very grown up responsibility. It's not like something that

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happens to you. We have the ability to determine our destiny.

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These challenges that we have, whether it's in our home

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or it's geopolitically, they are meant to challenge, just to

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01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:05,360
constantly reflect back to us that we make a choice.

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We make a choice in where we stand and what

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we want to bring in, what we want to encourage.

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Speaker 1: So what is the biggest lesson that we need to

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learn in the next ten years as a species?

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Speaker 3: That it is possible. It is all possible. It's a choice,

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you guys. You can choose what you want to experience.

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01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:50,840
You can choose who you are and how you want

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to experience this.

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Speaker 1: Life as an individual and as a collective.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, no, no, it's.

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Speaker 1: An emotional thing because there's so many people in so

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much pain. I appreciate you being so vulnerable, by the way.

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There are so many people in so much pain around

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the world who are under delusions that they are they

1019
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,079
have no control over their life, that they have no control,

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they have no control over anything that happens to them.

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And the information that we put out on the show,

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in these conversations hopefully empowers people to understand that the

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power is within themselves exactly, and they can choose a

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different life. And I know it's hard to think that

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way when you're in the crap and you're in the

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deep mud. We've all been there. I've been there, You've

1027
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been there. I don't think you can go through this

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life without being touched in one way, shape or form

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01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,000
like that. It's part of it. It's just part of

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the journey. So when you're in it, it's really difficult

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to see your way out of it. You're like in

1032
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:56,719
the forest in the trees and you can't see anything

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01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,920
but the trees. But if you're able to sat qui

1034
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:04,159
yourself look inward, start to do things little by little,

1035
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reading a book here and there, listening to a podcast, meditating,

1036
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all these little things to start getting you out. It

1037
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won't happen like that, but it will eventually get out. Look,

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it took you fifty two years. It took me a

1039
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long time as well, decades to figure out a lot

1040
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of this stuff as well. So I think that's the

1041
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message of this conversation, hopefully what your work is and

1042
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what my work is. So I appreciate you doing that.

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Speaker 2: Then you are not alone.

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Speaker 3: There are many people, many souls out there just like you,

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and there is belonging this, there is inclusion, there is understanding,

1046
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and it's in spirit.

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Speaker 2: And I love you.

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Speaker 1: So there's that. Yes, Well, Jen, I'm going to ask

1049
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,880
you a few questions, ask all my guests. Yes, okay,

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what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

1051
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Speaker 3: Standing in your power?

1052
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had a chance to go back in

1053
01:04:12,559 --> 01:04:15,239
time and speak to little Jen, what advice would you

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give that you girl, You're gonna be fun girl.

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Speaker 3: Just hang in the mine.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just hang in there. These people around you

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great ray.

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Speaker 3: And exactly that you are beautiful and you are loved. Jenny,

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01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:45,199
Jenny Lynn Yes, that's what I will tell my little Jenny.

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Speaker 1: How do you define God or source?

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Speaker 3: Uh? All that is in everything is me as you,

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the trees, it's the life. But it's that unconditional love

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that flows through all of us. It's in our DNA,

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It's in the DNA of the universe. That's why the

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universe exists. It's why we exist.

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Speaker 2: That is God. God is love.

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Speaker 1: And what is love?

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Speaker 3: Ah? Wow?

1069
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Speaker 2: Love is.

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Speaker 3: Energy? So it's pink. Love is that that flows through us,

1071
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:37,719
that bonds us all. It's that energy, it's frequency. It

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moves throughout the universe. That's what unites the molecules, moves

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the atoms.

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Speaker 2: It is love.

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Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

1076
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: To rise as end, find your power, find who you are, belief, hope,

1077
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:04,239
get to trust. Once you can trust, then you relax.

1078
01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:11,760
Mm hmm clows right, you trust. It's just like, oh,

1079
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I mean just saying it, don't you feel it?

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, it's like sitting in a war.

1081
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,760
It's like sitting in a warm stream and just being taken.

1082
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,519
But we spend most of our life walking up the

1083
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stream against the current and fighting and fighting and fighting.

1084
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,719
And where can people find out more about you and

1085
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,679
the work that you're doing.

1086
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:37,159
Speaker 3: In the Jenbushman dot com and my YouTube tech channel.

1087
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It's Jen Bushman. I do readings and i have classes.

1088
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I have a rock shop because I'm so into the

1089
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frequency of stone. I'm a six dimensional star seed from Cyrus,

1090
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so I'm really into the frequency of stone.

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Speaker 1: So, and do you have any party messages for the audience?

1092
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Speaker 3: You are beautiful, you are loved, and it is.

1093
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Speaker 1: Jen. Thank you so much for being on the show

1094
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,400
and for sharing your journey with us and your wisdom

1095
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,519
and your experiences with the tribe. So I appreciate you,

1096
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:12,440
my dear, and everything you're doing to awaken the planet.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It was an

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honor to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for spending this sacred time with

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us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further,

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