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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye with your podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Gurdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going well, Tony, we're doing the show that

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<v Speaker 2>I know people were in our YouTube comments clamoring for yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>But we shared a bunch of the information from this show,

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<v Speaker 2>and actually a lot more than we're gonna be sharing

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<v Speaker 2>on this show already with our members at Buckeye Insiders

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. So if you think I wish I could

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<v Speaker 2>get scrimmage updates from or practice updates from them faster

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<v Speaker 2>or in more detailed formats, well, friends, I have great

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<v Speaker 2>news for you. You can do that at Buckeye Insider's Talking and.

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<v Speaker 1>We welcome you there. Got a vibrant, thriving community talking

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State football all hours of the day. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>night oul, you can do it there. If you're a

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<v Speaker 1>morning person, you can do it there. If you're just

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<v Speaker 1>an afternoon lazy joe, you can do it right there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So we invite you over there. Would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see you. And yeah, it's in terms of I

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<v Speaker 1>guess scrimmage updates time. I don't want to like oversell,

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<v Speaker 1>undersell whatever. I don't want to sell it improperly. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not a ton of news coming out in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like big plays or this guy's you know, like all

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff that people like want to hear, like

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me legend beiwa for three hundred yards and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, there's not necessarily that. I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons is there's there's some banged up Buckeyes

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and so they weren't at full full health

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Now I don't at this point, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to believe anybody is in danger. These are

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<v Speaker 1>just the mid I mean mid camp alo campus now

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<v Speaker 1>like over but like mid practice session, mid August type

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<v Speaker 1>of you know what, we need this person to be

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<v Speaker 1>healthy in the lead up to the game. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need them to be on the field right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think much of this is precautionary, uh, just based

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<v Speaker 1>on how things go. Like this is what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right This is you've gone from not playing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of contact football since basically the spring game. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing some stuff, but you're not in pads very much,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you get a couple acclamation days and then boom,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in pads and you're in pads about five or

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<v Speaker 2>six days a week for several weeks in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just kind of and it's they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get you ready. They have this is not a year

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<v Speaker 2>where they've got a little ramp up. You've got Texas

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<v Speaker 2>week two. So it's got to be a physical camp.

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<v Speaker 2>But that means sometimes guys get hurt. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>more so guys get just banged up and just you know, sore,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you need to take a day and they

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<v Speaker 2>you got guys. I think some guys who are taking

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<v Speaker 2>a day and you know we've seen for example with

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<v Speaker 2>like Austin Sireveld. Austin Sireveld had a few days off, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of getting just making sure something was right

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<v Speaker 2>about a week ago. He's back now. So that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no concern there. And I think, to echo your point,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is I don't think there's any

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<v Speaker 2>injuries that we've heard about that are oh boy, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a huge long term issue. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of this is what the middle of August

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<v Speaker 2>looks like every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the reason I say and we say that

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<v Speaker 1>is because when you hear somebody's not practicing it's like

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, oh, no, oh no, and it's like, calm down.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of players who haven't practiced that you've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard about and never knew about is miles long. So

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<v Speaker 1>really no reason they get concerned. We will talk with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Day on Monday, which I guess at this would

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<v Speaker 1>be tomorrow. He doesn't normally like talking about injuries, and

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<v Speaker 1>unless there's maybe something season ending that he would go into.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't expect him to say anything of note

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<v Speaker 1>because there may not be anything of note. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested time to see if he does mention is

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<v Speaker 1>something that we were told and that looks like Ian

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<v Speaker 1>Moore is your starting left tackle. Looks like he has

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<v Speaker 1>won the job based on you know, we've only seen

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<v Speaker 1>him really being the number one left tackle for most

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<v Speaker 1>of camp, and he's repped and split time with Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Tierrivale at times and just making sure that they're making

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<v Speaker 1>the right decision. Did see Ian Moore right tackle like

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<v Speaker 1>once or twice in those first three practices, But at

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<v Speaker 1>this point it looks like Ian Moore the way they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking is the number one he is your starting left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>which I am going to say, Austin Sierravaldi is your

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<v Speaker 1>starting right guard, and just eliminate all of the Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Daniels conjecture, because I know the Buckeye fans will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about and Buckeye media will talk about the Philip Daniels thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who aren't talking about anything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Daniels or Phillip Daniels moving here, moving there are

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches. I mean, that's not something really. Ryan Day

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<v Speaker 1>mentions it once a camp, like before camp, and then

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<v Speaker 1>never again and nothing ever comes of it. So it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me that it's going to be Ian Moore

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<v Speaker 1>and then Austin Seerveld, and I'm I'm wondering if we'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear that tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>My assumption is that that will be announced officially on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday during that Ryan Day press conference. We are planning

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<v Speaker 2>to stream that. The official time is eleven forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>There is always a brackets ish at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of press conference following practice kind of time,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can look for that at YouTube dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>slash at Buckeye Insiders. You can also find us on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitch if you were a Twitch person. We were at

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<v Speaker 2>Buckeye Insiders there as well. We'll be streaming that there.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done a terrible job promoting that, but we will.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be streaming some of the ust off there

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<v Speaker 2>or if you prefer twitch to YouTube, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>You can bite us there. So yeah, I think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point we came out of spring thinking this is

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<v Speaker 2>probably where this was going to end up. With Ian

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<v Speaker 2>Moore at left tackle and Austin Seerveld at right guard.

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<v Speaker 2>That was certainly the most likely the uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not the majority, but the plurality solution here was that

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<v Speaker 2>it was going to be that line up, and you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of went through all a fall camp and that

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like the thing. It was the thing they showed

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<v Speaker 2>on day one. It was the thing they showed on

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<v Speaker 2>day three. They hit something Elton day two, but it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like that was a thing that you saw earliest.

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<v Speaker 2>Most often, even just the little clips from practice that

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<v Speaker 2>they will put out, you always see it's always, oh

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<v Speaker 2>look there's even more at left tackle with ones. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>look there's Austin Seerfeld. I don't know where he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's somewhere of the interior of the line again with

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<v Speaker 2>the ones, so it could be literally anywhere. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels like everything we're seeing, everything we're hearing

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, is that this is where things are trending.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, we were told Saturday after the scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 2>see that is almost certainly where this is where this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to end up. So you know, again I'm

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<v Speaker 2>expecting an official answer on that on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when we say this is what we're told,

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<v Speaker 1>things can't change, I would throw that out there because

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<v Speaker 1>that that does happen. But at this point, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like. I will also say from this scrimmage

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<v Speaker 1>to the from from the first scrimmage eight days ago

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<v Speaker 1>to this scrimmage on Saturday, slow start to this this

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<v Speaker 1>past scrimmage offensively and defensively, I guess, but then the

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<v Speaker 1>defense kind of picked it up and finished better than

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<v Speaker 1>the defense did the previous week. And the first scrimmage

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<v Speaker 1>was a rough outing for the Ohio State defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's good that things are looking a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more muddled for the entire scrimmage and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no no side looks better than the other. That's I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe the ideal for the coaches, where now you're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna get into the granular and do all of

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<v Speaker 1>the grading on all of the players and see how

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<v Speaker 1>things graded out. If there's no clear winner, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the team wins clearly, that sort of thing. But defense

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<v Speaker 1>stepping up after being not embarrassed, but like Peyton Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>had to pull his team aside and in the days

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<v Speaker 1>after that first scrimmage and be like, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the standard of the Ohio State defense. And the thing is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the only other linebacker that has like more than

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<v Speaker 1>one season of playing time on this team other than him,

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<v Speaker 1>is like Garrett Stover who had one snap and a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of special teams plays outside of that, And you

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<v Speaker 1>can do the same some similar things all throughout the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's not a ton of Ohio State experience, and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, re reclaiming that state is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>big for them. Like it's it's good that the offense

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<v Speaker 1>is good, but it's I think this is also good

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<v Speaker 1>news that the defense maybe catching up a little finally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is the dance that every school is

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<v Speaker 2>doing this time of year. I talked to someone who

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<v Speaker 2>I know who knows some folks close to the Texas

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<v Speaker 2>program and was just sort of getting a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of intel on where things stand. There and shared a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of that on on the Insiders board on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're kind of in the different spot where the

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<v Speaker 2>offense is just getting absolutely mollywomped by the defense, which

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<v Speaker 2>again that's not unusual this time of year, and Texas

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to have a good defense, so it's very

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<v Speaker 2>easy to say, well, that just means they have a

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<v Speaker 2>good defense. But at the same time, then are you

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about the offense? And for Ohio State, the offense

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<v Speaker 2>had a great, great first scrimmage and it's like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how concerned should you be about the defense? It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it kind of no much like, you know, Texas

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<v Speaker 2>is going to have a good defense, because Texas gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a good defense this year, It's gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>good offense. Like you just look around the field and

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the pieces they have and the players

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<v Speaker 2>they have and the coaching they have, and you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna have a good offense this year. So

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<v Speaker 2>getting absolutely you know, I don't want to say getting smoked,

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<v Speaker 2>but getting getting you know, having having them get the

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<v Speaker 2>better of you in scrimmage one is not necessarily the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the world for the defense. But then then

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<v Speaker 2>coming back and having a better second scrimmage, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least it was, you know, a much more even kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. That's that is good news for the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And the offense was missing some guys. They had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some guys who are not you know, nothing again, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to be worried about, but they were missing some guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does feel like that's you were you were

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<v Speaker 2>probably hoping that to hear. Okay, the defense had a

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<v Speaker 2>better day in scrimmage number two, And it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>the defense had a better day in scrimmage number two.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the other things coming out of the scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this is one of the products by

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<v Speaker 1>products of the whole length of camp and camp now

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<v Speaker 1>being over and they move into the sort of game

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<v Speaker 1>prep situation. They've been staying together in hotel, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>practicing against each other. They have finally reached a point

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<v Speaker 1>where the coaches are like, the team is just ready

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<v Speaker 1>to hit somebody else. Things have gotten chippy, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you've got all this pent up, like you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go play somebody else, and you've there's such a hyper

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<v Speaker 1>focus on all of the details, all of the standards

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this, and sometimes things just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they snap a little or you just it is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's a highly competitive, violent type of situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I think they've officially reached that point

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<v Speaker 1>where one they need to maybe get away from each

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<v Speaker 1>other a little bit, go back to your apartments, your condos,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that sort of thing. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>based on everything we're here, like this is a I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say time for a break, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a t for also for the the

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<v Speaker 1>end of camp where it's just you're done with each

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<v Speaker 1>other for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if you went back through quotes from

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<v Speaker 2>about this point in fall camp, you'd have almost verbatim,

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<v Speaker 2>we're ready to hit someone a different color jersey in

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<v Speaker 2>virtually every single year going back. I mean, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>and I can remember even when I was a student

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<v Speaker 2>at Ohio State them talking about, yeah, we're ready to

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<v Speaker 2>hit someone in different color jersey, Like it's just that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it is this time of year. So that's not unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think this this camp go back to some

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<v Speaker 2>of our shows Week one, when we were in there

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<v Speaker 2>and we were talking about the fact that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little more physical you than you would expect, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably a combination of coming off of

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<v Speaker 2>the last season ending in a disappointing way, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guys who are new and trying to earn spots,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's not a lot of complacency, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been I think a physical camp on the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's also it's been hot for ast

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks and then it's been raining and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been inside, and it's then they've been raining it and

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<v Speaker 2>they've been outside, and it just like this is the

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<v Speaker 2>point of camp where you are you are a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit tired of being around other people. And we were

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<v Speaker 2>at hotel check and day what two weeks ago, on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>I think or Tuesday whenever it was. They are now

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<v Speaker 2>checking out of the hotel, the camp portion, hotel portion

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<v Speaker 2>that's done. Classes start on Wednesdays and then practices move

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<v Speaker 2>till the you know, the evening instead of these sort

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<v Speaker 2>of late morning practices. So then it gets like you

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<v Speaker 2>can sort of see the light at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the tunnel that Okay, this is not practice is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to go on. You know, camp is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go on forever. There really is a game where

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<v Speaker 2>you will get to hit someone wearing a different color jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I guess Ball State kind of wears the

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<v Speaker 2>same color jerseys, but you know what I mean, different

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<v Speaker 2>different helmets. That's important to get to hit some someone

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<v Speaker 2>wearing different helmets. Just don't hit them in the helmet

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<v Speaker 2>or you might get ejected.

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<v Speaker 1>Just different people, Because I say, I believe it would

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<v Speaker 1>just be tiresome for like a James Smith or and

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<v Speaker 1>Edric Houston to be hitting Luke Montgomery or Austin Serveld

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<v Speaker 1>all day long, and it's like, I'm tired of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for something new. I want something new, and

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<v Speaker 1>soon they will have something new. But even changing the

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<v Speaker 1>time of day that you do in a practice is

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<v Speaker 1>it maybe helps some as well. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just some things that we wanted to talk about. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we've got more over at buckeysiders dot com

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<v Speaker 1>on a message board, got a couple of threads there

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<v Speaker 1>actually about stuff going on Saturday and beyond. And as

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<v Speaker 1>Tom said, we will be talking with Ryan Day on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>You can watch that live on YouTube at YouTube dot

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<v Speaker 1>com slash at Buckeye Insiders. If you're watching this right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you when we go live on Monday. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to set to your alarm. We'll do it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of people we are. And fire start

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<v Speaker 1>writing interview. Always appreciate it on the audio side. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>come find us over at Buckeye Insiders dot com. You

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<v Speaker 1>you would have had this information yesterday and you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>more information there you go. We invite you over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, opportunity. He's trying. We'll talk to you about

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>This time. What about West? You through away?

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<v Speaker 1>Then? No one tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you'd never meant nothing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Where where my father?

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<v Speaker 2>If you can tell me, that's the morn's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We can steal current les