Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye with your podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Tony Gurdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
Speaker 2: How's it going well, Tony, we're doing the show that
Speaker 2: I know people were in our YouTube comments clamoring for yesterday.
Speaker 2: But we shared a bunch of the information from this show,
Speaker 2: and actually a lot more than we're gonna be sharing
Speaker 2: on this show already with our members at Buckeye Insiders
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Speaker 1: as well. So we invite you over there. Would love
Speaker 1: to see you. And yeah, it's in terms of I
Speaker 1: guess scrimmage updates time. I don't want to like oversell,
Speaker 1: undersell whatever. I don't want to sell it improperly. They're
Speaker 1: not a ton of news coming out in terms of
Speaker 1: like big plays or this guy's you know, like all
Speaker 1: of this stuff that people like want to hear, like
Speaker 1: just tell me legend beiwa for three hundred yards and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, there's not necessarily that. I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons is there's there's some banged up Buckeyes
Speaker 1: right now, and so they weren't at full full health
Speaker 1: at this point. Now I don't at this point, there's
Speaker 1: no reason to believe anybody is in danger. These are
Speaker 1: just the mid I mean mid camp alo campus now
Speaker 1: like over but like mid practice session, mid August type
Speaker 1: of you know what, we need this person to be
Speaker 1: healthy in the lead up to the game. We don't
Speaker 1: need them to be on the field right now. So
Speaker 1: I think much of this is precautionary, uh, just based
Speaker 1: on how things go. Like this is what they do.
Speaker 2: Right This is you've gone from not playing a lot
Speaker 2: of contact football since basically the spring game. You know,
Speaker 2: you're doing some stuff, but you're not in pads very much,
Speaker 2: and then you get a couple acclamation days and then boom,
Speaker 2: you're in pads and you're in pads about five or
Speaker 2: six days a week for several weeks in a row,
Speaker 2: and it's just kind of and it's they're trying to
Speaker 2: get you ready. They have this is not a year
Speaker 2: where they've got a little ramp up. You've got Texas
Speaker 2: week two. So it's got to be a physical camp.
Speaker 2: But that means sometimes guys get hurt. But I think
Speaker 2: more so guys get just banged up and just you know, sore,
Speaker 2: and sometimes you need to take a day and they
Speaker 2: you got guys. I think some guys who are taking
Speaker 2: a day and you know we've seen for example with
Speaker 2: like Austin Sireveld. Austin Sireveld had a few days off, uh,
Speaker 2: just sort of getting just making sure something was right
Speaker 2: about a week ago. He's back now. So that's you know,
Speaker 2: no concern there. And I think, to echo your point,
Speaker 2: I don't think this is I don't think there's any
Speaker 2: injuries that we've heard about that are oh boy, this
Speaker 2: is going to be a huge long term issue. It's
Speaker 2: just kind of this is what the middle of August
Speaker 2: looks like every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the reason I say and we say that
Speaker 1: is because when you hear somebody's not practicing it's like
Speaker 1: oh no, oh, no, oh no, and it's like, calm down.
Speaker 1: The number of players who haven't practiced that you've never
Speaker 1: heard about and never knew about is miles long. So
Speaker 1: really no reason they get concerned. We will talk with
Speaker 1: Ryan Day on Monday, which I guess at this would
Speaker 1: be tomorrow. He doesn't normally like talking about injuries, and
Speaker 1: unless there's maybe something season ending that he would go into.
Speaker 1: But I don't expect him to say anything of note
Speaker 1: because there may not be anything of note. One thing
Speaker 1: I'm interested time to see if he does mention is
Speaker 1: something that we were told and that looks like Ian
Speaker 1: Moore is your starting left tackle. Looks like he has
Speaker 1: won the job based on you know, we've only seen
Speaker 1: him really being the number one left tackle for most
Speaker 1: of camp, and he's repped and split time with Austin
Speaker 1: Tierrivale at times and just making sure that they're making
Speaker 1: the right decision. Did see Ian Moore right tackle like
Speaker 1: once or twice in those first three practices, But at
Speaker 1: this point it looks like Ian Moore the way they're
Speaker 1: talking is the number one he is your starting left tackle,
Speaker 1: which I am going to say, Austin Sierravaldi is your
Speaker 1: starting right guard, and just eliminate all of the Philip
Speaker 1: Daniels conjecture, because I know the Buckeye fans will talk
Speaker 1: about and Buckeye media will talk about the Philip Daniels thing.
Speaker 1: The people who aren't talking about anything to do with
Speaker 1: Philip Daniels or Phillip Daniels moving here, moving there are
Speaker 1: the coaches. I mean, that's not something really. Ryan Day
Speaker 1: mentions it once a camp, like before camp, and then
Speaker 1: never again and nothing ever comes of it. So it
Speaker 1: seems to me that it's going to be Ian Moore
Speaker 1: and then Austin Seerveld, and I'm I'm wondering if we'll
Speaker 1: hear that tomorrow.
Speaker 2: My assumption is that that will be announced officially on
Speaker 2: Monday during that Ryan Day press conference. We are planning
Speaker 2: to stream that. The official time is eleven forty five.
Speaker 2: There is always a brackets ish at the end of
Speaker 2: any kind of press conference following practice kind of time,
Speaker 2: but you can look for that at YouTube dot com,
Speaker 2: slash at Buckeye Insiders. You can also find us on
Speaker 2: Twitch if you were a Twitch person. We were at
Speaker 2: Buckeye Insiders there as well. We'll be streaming that there.
Speaker 2: I've done a terrible job promoting that, but we will.
Speaker 2: We will be streaming some of the ust off there
Speaker 2: or if you prefer twitch to YouTube, there you go.
Speaker 2: You can bite us there. So yeah, I think at
Speaker 2: this point we came out of spring thinking this is
Speaker 2: probably where this was going to end up. With Ian
Speaker 2: Moore at left tackle and Austin Seerveld at right guard.
Speaker 2: That was certainly the most likely the uh, you know,
Speaker 2: not the majority, but the plurality solution here was that
Speaker 2: it was going to be that line up, and you
Speaker 2: kind of went through all a fall camp and that
Speaker 2: seemed like the thing. It was the thing they showed
Speaker 2: on day one. It was the thing they showed on
Speaker 2: day three. They hit something Elton day two, but it
Speaker 2: felt like that was a thing that you saw earliest.
Speaker 2: Most often, even just the little clips from practice that
Speaker 2: they will put out, you always see it's always, oh
Speaker 2: look there's even more at left tackle with ones. Oh
Speaker 2: look there's Austin Seerfeld. I don't know where he is.
Speaker 2: He's somewhere of the interior of the line again with
Speaker 2: the ones, so it could be literally anywhere. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just feels like everything we're seeing, everything we're hearing
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, is that this is where things are trending.
Speaker 2: And then you know, we were told Saturday after the scrimmage,
Speaker 2: see that is almost certainly where this is where this
Speaker 2: is going to end up. So you know, again I'm
Speaker 2: expecting an official answer on that on Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when we say this is what we're told,
Speaker 1: things can't change, I would throw that out there because
Speaker 1: that that does happen. But at this point, that's what
Speaker 1: it looks like. I will also say from this scrimmage
Speaker 1: to the from from the first scrimmage eight days ago
Speaker 1: to this scrimmage on Saturday, slow start to this this
Speaker 1: past scrimmage offensively and defensively, I guess, but then the
Speaker 1: defense kind of picked it up and finished better than
Speaker 1: the defense did the previous week. And the first scrimmage
Speaker 1: was a rough outing for the Ohio State defense. I
Speaker 1: think it's it's good that things are looking a little
Speaker 1: bit more muddled for the entire scrimmage and you know,
Speaker 1: no no side looks better than the other. That's I
Speaker 1: think maybe the ideal for the coaches, where now you're
Speaker 1: just gonna get into the granular and do all of
Speaker 1: the grading on all of the players and see how
Speaker 1: things graded out. If there's no clear winner, then maybe
Speaker 1: the team wins clearly, that sort of thing. But defense
Speaker 1: stepping up after being not embarrassed, but like Peyton Pierce
Speaker 1: had to pull his team aside and in the days
Speaker 1: after that first scrimmage and be like, this is not
Speaker 1: the standard of the Ohio State defense. And the thing is, like,
Speaker 1: he's the only other linebacker that has like more than
Speaker 1: one season of playing time on this team other than him,
Speaker 1: is like Garrett Stover who had one snap and a
Speaker 1: couple of special teams plays outside of that, And you
Speaker 1: can do the same some similar things all throughout the defense.
Speaker 1: Like there's not a ton of Ohio State experience, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, re reclaiming that state is going to be
Speaker 1: big for them. Like it's it's good that the offense
Speaker 1: is good, but it's I think this is also good
Speaker 1: news that the defense maybe catching up a little finally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is the dance that every school is
Speaker 2: doing this time of year. I talked to someone who
Speaker 2: I know who knows some folks close to the Texas
Speaker 2: program and was just sort of getting a little bit
Speaker 2: of intel on where things stand. There and shared a
Speaker 2: bunch of that on on the Insiders board on Sunday.
Speaker 2: But they're kind of in the different spot where the
Speaker 2: offense is just getting absolutely mollywomped by the defense, which
Speaker 2: again that's not unusual this time of year, and Texas
Speaker 2: is supposed to have a good defense, so it's very
Speaker 2: easy to say, well, that just means they have a
Speaker 2: good defense. But at the same time, then are you
Speaker 2: concerned about the offense? And for Ohio State, the offense
Speaker 2: had a great, great first scrimmage and it's like, well, okay,
Speaker 2: how concerned should you be about the defense? It feels
Speaker 2: like it kind of no much like, you know, Texas
Speaker 2: is going to have a good defense, because Texas gonna
Speaker 2: have a good defense this year, It's gonna have a
Speaker 2: good offense. Like you just look around the field and
Speaker 2: you look at the pieces they have and the players
Speaker 2: they have and the coaching they have, and you go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was gonna have a good offense this year. So
Speaker 2: getting absolutely you know, I don't want to say getting smoked,
Speaker 2: but getting getting you know, having having them get the
Speaker 2: better of you in scrimmage one is not necessarily the
Speaker 2: end of the world for the defense. But then then
Speaker 2: coming back and having a better second scrimmage, or at
Speaker 2: least it was, you know, a much more even kind
Speaker 2: of thing. That's that is good news for the defense.
Speaker 2: And the offense was missing some guys. They had, you know,
Speaker 2: some guys who are not you know, nothing again, nothing
Speaker 2: to be worried about, but they were missing some guys.
Speaker 2: But it does feel like that's you were you were
Speaker 2: probably hoping that to hear. Okay, the defense had a
Speaker 2: better day in scrimmage number two, And it sounds like
Speaker 2: the defense had a better day in scrimmage number two.
Speaker 1: One of the other things coming out of the scrimmage,
Speaker 1: and I think this is one of the products by
Speaker 1: products of the whole length of camp and camp now
Speaker 1: being over and they move into the sort of game
Speaker 1: prep situation. They've been staying together in hotel, they've been
Speaker 1: practicing against each other. They have finally reached a point
Speaker 1: where the coaches are like, the team is just ready
Speaker 1: to hit somebody else. Things have gotten chippy, and so
Speaker 1: you've got all this pent up, like you want to
Speaker 1: go play somebody else, and you've there's such a hyper
Speaker 1: focus on all of the details, all of the standards
Speaker 1: and all of this, and sometimes things just you know,
Speaker 1: they snap a little or you just it is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's a highly competitive, violent type of situation.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think they've officially reached that point
Speaker 1: where one they need to maybe get away from each
Speaker 1: other a little bit, go back to your apartments, your condos,
Speaker 1: and you know that sort of thing. But you know,
Speaker 1: based on everything we're here, like this is a I
Speaker 1: don't want to say time for a break, no, but
Speaker 1: this is not a t for also for the the
Speaker 1: end of camp where it's just you're done with each
Speaker 1: other for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you went back through quotes from
Speaker 2: about this point in fall camp, you'd have almost verbatim,
Speaker 2: we're ready to hit someone a different color jersey in
Speaker 2: virtually every single year going back. I mean, I've been
Speaker 2: around the team for twenty six years on and off,
Speaker 2: and I can remember even when I was a student
Speaker 2: at Ohio State them talking about, yeah, we're ready to
Speaker 2: hit someone in different color jersey, Like it's just that's
Speaker 2: what it is this time of year. So that's not unusual.
Speaker 2: But I think this this camp go back to some
Speaker 2: of our shows Week one, when we were in there
Speaker 2: and we were talking about the fact that it was
Speaker 2: a little more physical you than you would expect, and
Speaker 2: I think that's probably a combination of coming off of
Speaker 2: the last season ending in a disappointing way, a lot
Speaker 2: of guys who are new and trying to earn spots,
Speaker 2: and there's not a lot of complacency, and so you know,
Speaker 2: it's been I think a physical camp on the whole.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's also it's been hot for ast
Speaker 2: couple of weeks and then it's been raining and they've
Speaker 2: been inside, and it's then they've been raining it and
Speaker 2: they've been outside, and it just like this is the
Speaker 2: point of camp where you are you are a little
Speaker 2: bit tired of being around other people. And we were
Speaker 2: at hotel check and day what two weeks ago, on Monday,
Speaker 2: I think or Tuesday whenever it was. They are now
Speaker 2: checking out of the hotel, the camp portion, hotel portion
Speaker 2: that's done. Classes start on Wednesdays and then practices move
Speaker 2: till the you know, the evening instead of these sort
Speaker 2: of late morning practices. So then it gets like you
Speaker 2: can sort of see the light at the end of
Speaker 2: the tunnel that Okay, this is not practice is not
Speaker 2: going to go on. You know, camp is not going
Speaker 2: to go on forever. There really is a game where
Speaker 2: you will get to hit someone wearing a different color jersey,
Speaker 2: even though I guess Ball State kind of wears the
Speaker 2: same color jerseys, but you know what I mean, different
Speaker 2: different helmets. That's important to get to hit some someone
Speaker 2: wearing different helmets. Just don't hit them in the helmet
Speaker 2: or you might get ejected.
Speaker 1: Just different people, Because I say, I believe it would
Speaker 1: just be tiresome for like a James Smith or and
Speaker 1: Edric Houston to be hitting Luke Montgomery or Austin Serveld
Speaker 1: all day long, and it's like, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for something new. I want something new, and
Speaker 1: soon they will have something new. But even changing the
Speaker 1: time of day that you do in a practice is
Speaker 1: it maybe helps some as well. So I think it's
Speaker 1: just some things that we wanted to talk about. Like
Speaker 1: I said, we've got more over at buckeysiders dot com
Speaker 1: on a message board, got a couple of threads there
Speaker 1: actually about stuff going on Saturday and beyond. And as
Speaker 1: Tom said, we will be talking with Ryan Day on Monday.
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