Speaker 1: Dire Way.
Speaker 2: It's me, dire Way.
Speaker 1: Who is this, I don't know, it's me. It's Amid
the Ruins. It's a guy who makes dire Way of music.
It's Amid the.
Speaker 3: Ruins sense dire way of music. What I've talked about in.
Speaker 1: Probably one hundred articles of Jays analysis is the implementation
of the AI smart grid in the giant smart cities,
which is what IBM talks about publicly building. And that's
where we're going, and that's what I think we have
to be really concerned about. So all of these tensions, they.
Speaker 4: Are part of a long term strategy.
Speaker 5: To basically get everybody moved into megacities.
Speaker 1: They'll be forced to they'll be forced off of land
and so forth for an environmental reasons and basically concoct
and invented environmental nonsense. Then you'll be stuck in some
hell a whole megacity in a basically a carton size apartment,
living over a target or something. We're inside of the
target or Walmart. As I said several years ago, it's
actually coming true. Now there's actually target cities. This is
all part of the long term global of strategy.
Speaker 5: But to get there, you've got to have the constant clash,
the constant alchemical blending and mixing and smashing together right
out of Manicheanism to produce the convergence, to produce the synthesis.
Speaker 1: And that's what's crucial in all this and what is
absolutely true from an alchemical, esoteric, philosophical, angiobolical perspective the
fact that.
Speaker 6: The ruling elite seek to be host Jason alsos dot com.
Speaker 1: You can't try to fix today's problems political.
Speaker 3: This is what so many people.
Speaker 1: That all circles and talk ride and whatever on media,
they all seem to think that there's like a political
solutions to man it's problems. And really the whole of
modernity is built on this neopagan concept of political salvation,
and there is no political salvation for men because man's
problems are not essentially political, they're spiritual. The hierarchy of
how man views himself in the world has been inverted.
I've covered over and over and over the white papers
that actually discussed.
Speaker 4: How to invert and subvert that changing images.
Speaker 1: Of man things like this. So what has to happen
is that the inversion has to be reverted back to
the way it needs to be and that means that.
Speaker 4: First and foremost for man, it is spiritual issues.
Speaker 1: Those come first. Then we have the things like the
philosophy and the family and the social issues and things
like that that comes act in race, where ethnicity can
be classed as part of that. That is, in other words,
you caring for your people is just a broader.
Speaker 4: Extension of the family, the tribe, the nation.
Speaker 1: Right, it all depends on what we mean by these
words in these terms. Now, America and Americanism is the
first attempt at a completely propositional nation. And this is
well known. This is not debated in political theory. I
think even Abraham Lincoln referred to it.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 7: The way.
Speaker 8: Is Jay I or Jason Nelson's.
Speaker 9: Jay Diers Days mel Skade iron Face.
Speaker 10: No Kate iris Days analysis. It's Jade ires Days analysis.
Speaker 1: In our civilization, man has dignity because he's made in
the image of God.
Speaker 4: In Plato's athen civilization.
Speaker 1: Man has no dignity. So these two grounding basic.
Speaker 4: Principles are fighting against one another.
Speaker 1: Right, In Plato's philosophy, the state is God is embodied
in the philosopher King. It's basically like Pharaoh type stuff. Right, Christianity.
Orthodox Christianity is the opposition to that. Now, does that
mean that it is egalitarian wipes everything out? Absolutely not.
There ain't a bit of egalitarianism in the last one
nine hundred and sixty years of Christianity. And everybody who
knows anything knows that. So be honest with yourselves. Why
can't you, especially especially liberal lying church leaders. You could
be disgusting.
Speaker 5: Thus, my point is that what all this echo chamber
alternative media crap is is a waste of time, is pointless.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's good for waking people up, but
you don't have models of how to erect civilizations. You
have nothing. I'm telling you, we have an existing structure
of the Orthodox Church that contains all the truths that
we need to erect this great civilization that's already been
erected in the past.
Speaker 4: Now, can we go back in time.
Speaker 11: And redoxantium met But we can build on what is
still there, what's left in ruins right standing on the
shoulders of giants. Facebook controls And when you read these
books and you give an idea of civilizational studies and
you grow out of just a very naive biological.
Speaker 4: Racial determinism, that's not everything, man.
Speaker 1: There's more to reality to life than race. Man is
a spirit.
Speaker 4: There's obviously some aspect to which all men share of manhood.
Speaker 1: Right, So does that mean that we go with the
universal and we blend everybody into a giant blob of
no individuals. No, that's the error of collectivism, one of
the many dialect it. We don't do dialectics.
Speaker 4: We believe in a balance because in the Triad.
Speaker 3: There's a balance.
Speaker 4: In the Church, there's a bout.
Speaker 1: In the imperiod there's a balance between the ethnos right
and the leadership. All of this was laid out for
a thousand a thousand years and fathers, especially the later
Church bothers. We'll look at the all right. Welcome, what's
up nerds? Happy New Year's Eve. We're gonna be talking
about this. More interesting than I expected. Film Empty Man.
It's not the greatest movie, but it was fun, very
Mary David Lynch, although not David Lynch. So there's quite
a quite a bit of homage. Are you familiar with
that famous French word homage? Does that make me sound sophisticated?
But not David Lynch. So I had a recommendation watch
Empty Man and I wasn't expecting to find it that interesting,
but as you know, the next in our Global Elite
book series is The Tim Leary Psychedelic Experience, which we
kind of touched on when we talked to Kotel our
friend David Patrick carry that. We didn't get deep into
the book. We kind of focused on his research into
the Far Eastern philosophical systems, which he's very studied in,
so he's the expert in that. I don't know a
whole lot about that realm of philosophy. I've read a
few things here and there, we read some books, had
some discussions with Far Eastern minded thinkers and people, but
we kind of typically take the trek of argumentation, which
we discussed with David, which is that the Far East
Stern philosophies usually fall over into monism, dualism, pantheism, et cetera.
So they're pretty, you know, pretty easy to kind of
box together under one overriding kind of metaphysical starting point. Typically,
So in that regard, there's not a whole lot really
to quote refute from an apologetics perspective, but there are
some interesting at times parallels and compared to religion discussions
that you can have to parcel out, you know, true
and false statements here and there. And as you know,
we've done the longer discussion of Father sefrom Rose's book
Orthodoxy in the Religion the Future, which does deal with
quite a few of these Far Eastern religions, and you know,
he makes those same critiques that we pointed out, right, monism, dualism.
They're very useful from a social engineering perspective for the
mindset of trying to get everything into a global glob
the perennial philosophy in that sense, according to the way
Huxley conceives of the permial philosophy in his book The
Perennial Philosophy, he basically says that these Far Eastern systems
are very useful to global social engineering, new world order
interests precisely because they group everybody into the giant Blob.
Remember the Blob. Actually like the eighties Blob, the eighties
b movie The Blob is pretty good, and in a
roundabout way, you could say it's kind of making this
point with Far Eastern thoughts. So we're gonna be touching
on the first half of this as we talk about
what empty Man's about. We're gonna give my explanation of
what the movie is about, and we're gonna see a
lot of parallels with but necessary distinctions between this and
orthodox theology s in Gregory Palmas the Uncreated Light. You know,
the typical false accusation from a lot of the opponents
of what we talk about is, oh, you guys, just
teach yoga. Right, it's just yoga. It's meditating to dissolve
yourself into the one. It's neoplatonism, none of which is
actually true. Of course, the early Church father spent many
years many of the councils, as Father Mindorf says in
his book Combating Hellenism and Combating Neoplatonism, in after many centuries,
you have the victory over Originism, which is the real
essential codification of a version of pseudo Christian neoplatonism. Right,
it's ultimately Platonics metaphysics wrapped up in Christian garb, and
the fifth, sixth, and seventh Councils pretty much eliminate that.
But one area that we've not really spent a lot
of time on. We did cover it when I covered
Lawski's Doug medic theology is the aon and this is
the timeless, created realm. And the reason that we're interested
in that is that a lot of people who do meditation,
they get into the far Eastern stuff when they have experiences,
or people who've done hallucinog just when they have the
hallucinogenic experience and they see non material you know, transcendent
types of things like the light that they experience, they
will mistake these things which are still in the domain
of the created, the noetic realm, for God. This is
what Platonism does. Platonism mistakes what we would say is
the created aon the noetic realm, where we would place
a lot of the created geometrical forms, the angelic abode,
you could say, the noetic realm. It's non material, right,
it's noetic. They're called the noetic powers, the angels, the nwosphere,
which will actually come up in the book or in
the movie Empty Man. People mistake that for God, right,
And this is how, for example, Paul can say Satan
can appear as an angel of light and to see
people because oh, well, I had a spiritual experience, it
must be good. Therefore, really, maybe you had a demonic
spiritual experience, right, just because you felt good? Right, you
can't make subjective states of feeling good or whatever pleasures
that's not necessarily of God per se. And a lot
of these experiences, of course, are accompanied by terrors, right,
horrible experiences. I had a bad trip the first time
I did acid, and we've covered that many many years ago.
I don't do anything like that anymore, but back when
I was high school. In high school, I had the
bad trip. We've covered that, Martin Lande's face melting and
all that fun, fun stories that were hilacious at the time.
But we're going to see how we don't want to
get into the delusion. And this is the main warning here,
is that these kinds of things, right, they're not totally
wrong in the sense of, oh, you never had that
experience or you didn't have any spiritual experience. No, you
probably had a spiritual experience, but that doesn't mean it
was a good spiritual scress or if it or that
it was of God. Right, So discernment. Discernment is the
key here. How do we discern between a vision an
experience of the beyond, of the transcendent of whatever, from
being from God, from ourselves or perhaps from the angelic Rome,
and from the angelic Reme could conceivably be evil or good. Right,
So we can't operate with that basic bitch level understanding
that anything that's a spiritual experience is therefore good. Right.
This is the typical kind of New age attitude. Right,
this does make any sense? That will all be very
interesting when we get into this book. I'm halfway through
the book now, so I have a little bit better,
uh context to deal with this. But you know, when
we talked to Kotel about all this, you know he
he agreed, right, and he is doing finishing his PhD
in these topics. Now. The introduction of the in this
book is Daniel Pinchback. Now, I was invited on a
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to him, but I don't really think he would be
a huge fan of Jason Elysis. But I don't know.
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How do you like my Buddhist champ now? As you
know to Betan Buddhism again, I'm not this is not
my arena, but everything I know about Buddhism I learned
from Twin Peaks, The Golden Child, and Empty Man. Tibetan
Buddhism is a combination of the philosophic Buddhism with the
indigenous older religion of the you know, Himalayan blah blah
blah region. So it has a weird kind of syncretic
thing of this philosophical strands of Buddhism proper and then
the indigenous animistic gods and demons worldview. So it's a
it's an interesting mix.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: It's is as you know, the entire basis of many
David Lynch movies. But really Twin Peaks as you know,
tulpa's if you're a big Twin Peaks fan, you know
the tulpa's play a big role in Twin Peaks, especially
the new season with Dougie. Dougie was a tulpa. But
in the movie, let's get into this movie and then
we'll move into to Leary's psychedelic experience. It's nineteen ninety
five and these, by the way, that was in the
period when Free Tibet all this Tibet blah blah blah
nonsense was everywhere. That was a CIA aided operation. The
Free Tibet was a basically a creation, a kind of
a cutout. You can look that up in terms of
the La Times has an article on it. New York Times.
Dalai Lama has kind of been, you know, either an
asset or friendly to the CIA for a long time,
and it's pretty obvious one you could see why that
would be the case. That doesn't make the Chinese versus Tibet.
I'm not taking a side there. I don't really this
is in the realm of geopolitics, and so that's really
beyond question Ingdahl has a whole chapter on Dalai Lama
and free Tibet. That was a thing in the nineties.
I was in the nineties. Were you in the nineties?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: And in the nineties there was free Tibet right, and
MTV used to promote free Tibet. And if you recall
Twin Peaks, agent Dale Cooper, for whatever reason, he's all
obsessed with free Tibet. Okay, So this was a kind
of a color revolution theory, if I remember. In Ingdol's chapter,
he characterizes it as in this overall model of color revolutions,
and it had, you know, a larger geopolitical game to play.
It has nothing really to do with freeing Tibet, has
everything to do with you know, the East West geopolitics stuff.
And so it makes sense why in nineteen ninety five
you have this team of people going up into Bhutan
and basically they and yes, if you've not seen the movie,
I'm going to, you know, kind of give you my analysis,
So be prepared. Thank you for those super chats. We'll
get to those in a minute. So you got this
team of you know, twenty something probably you know Nirvana fans,
you know, going up into Bhutan. They're they're hiking way
up into these mountains. They cross a bridge. So the
beginning of the movie is the crossing of the bridge.
The bridge will come up many many times in the film.
It's a key symbol and it just symbolizes, I believe,
the passage, the bridge from this world to the next. Okay,
here and there, and so they're hiking over this bridge.
It's got all the little you know, Tibetan little you know,
trinkets hanging around the bridge or whatever. They love all
those little trinkets and ship hanging from stuff.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And one of the unfortunate cool dudes falls down a hole.
He falls down a I look like a well, but
he just falls down this hole and he there's a
bone that excuse me, I forgot the bone flute. Okay,
this is not a crude sex joke, although it was
difficult not to make crude the sex jokes. And when
they blow the bone flute, but the dude blows the
bone flute just kind of like this thing he found
I guess on the ground or they picked up at
some market, right, you always pick up like the most
cursed item at.
Speaker 8: Like a.
Speaker 1: You know, a teal Wana flea market or some shit, right,
Like it's like, oh crap, I just got you know,
Satan's flute literally at the market. Sucks to be me, right,
and so he blows this bone flute. And the whole
time I'm watching this, I'm I'm thinking of I was
waiting for the little Zelda Hello. And by the way,
do you know the flute in Mario is the same
sound as the flute, and Zelda the idea of paint
playing the flute, the pan flute pan? Who is pan?
Was the devil of course, right? So what does this mean? Well,
there is in some of these far Eastern religions. I
actually put it in one of my analyzes in the
book I've already forgot it's the It may not be
in the book. It's my mad Max analysis. I was
reading about far Eastern things, and there is this notion
what is the name of that word? What is that word?
The name of the word, it's the whole idea why
they chant? Okay, so when you're chanting, when you're singing,
it's a vibration. It's a sound vibration that's intended to
evoke a plane of existence, one of the like celestial spheres.
This goes back to the idea that the celestial spheres
are playing a tune a note. This is why, by
the way, in Twin Peaks you have the record player
that's playing the the universe. It's playing the universe in
season three anyway, there's this name. There's a name for
the which is why they chant certain intonations to basically
harmonize with a level of thought. The ice, you know,
frequent shapes, right, all these new ages talking about but
there's something probably true. I think there's true to this, right,
different layers of reality, planes of existence do relate to
I think, different notes and sounds. If you've read the
Narnia story, then you know in Magician's Nephew, Aslan sings
creation into existence. I don't know how that all that works,
but this is an old idea. It goes back to
the ancient worlds. I think there's something to this, and
so this seems to be retained in some way in
these Tibetan notions. So when you're doing these or you're
trying to like harmonize your frequency with the frequencies men
this kind of thing. And if you do and I
think Hinduism they have the notion that there is a
god form, right, so when you achieve this is the
same principle behind why they do the different you know,
patterns when they do yoga, is they're trying to invoke
a god form roughly the same idea. Here's probably people
in the audience can remember this term that I can't
think of. But so he plays the bone flute. It
sucks to be you, dude, because you just played Satan's
bone flute. Okay, this is the worst possible flute that
you could ever get a hold of and hoot with.
And they don't even play it. They just hoot, don't they. Right,
So you play the bone flute, you're gonna lose your
soul and that's what happens to. Yeah, thank you? Yeah,
where are we at all?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: So the dude falls down in this pit, right, So
he's accidentally played the worst flute ever he does, it
falls down this pit. He's kind of led off into
the distance in a trance after playing the flute, and
when he falls down there it's just this little cave
with like this bizarre spider skeleton thing. Right, so there's
like a dead skeleton thing and you notice that it
is you know, the hands of this thing are like this. Okay,
this will be throughout the film. Okay, every time somebody
picks up a flute or a bottle to blow, they
hold it like such. Okay, and this is everywhere, and
this is on purpose because this is well, first of all,
it's a skeleton, right, So it's death. What is death?
Death is a kind of moving into non being.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying when you die you literally become non being,
but I'm saying there's a connection between death and privation
and non being or non existence that will play heavily
into this film. It's some and the empty Man. Who
is the empty man? It's well, ultimately we'll see but
when you're emptied out, you become a vessel. But this
movie is about possession ultimately. Okay, so shocker, you probably
figure that out already. But that's where we're going, and
it's gonna be abundantly clear as we get into the
third act. However, I'll say before we move on, one
thing I didn't expect about this movie is if you
watch the trailer, you think you're gonna watch some teenage
kind of like, uh, you know, like Final Destination crap.
Like I'm expecting this to be Final Destination and that's
not what this is. This trailer is very misleading. Okay,
it's not a Final Destination movie. I don't know what
we're not seeing. The people's super chats aren't popping up.
That's okay. I mean I can see the super chats,
are going to read him in a minute. But for
some reason, that little zombie, the little zombie guy is
behind my picture and I don't know how to get
him back on top, so we'll have to do that later.
But I can see everybody's super chats. I'll be reading
them in a minute. Plus that zombies is annoying anyway.
We don't need him anyway. Screw that zombie. Uh, screw
that zombie.
Speaker 12: To heck.
Speaker 1: I don't know why every thinks that I come on
here and I'm like on something. I don't drink. The
weed that we smoked this week was the non THHC weed.
I've met up with my godfather and we went to
that goofy hemp store and I got that non THHC hemp.
That doesn't do that gets you really sold by mine.
We've comeing down, man, we come in really down. So no,
this is the actual me. You know what I'm on
right now? Straight up espresso, dude, That's what I'm on.
That is a damn fine cup of Joe Agent Cooper,
I can hear. It's a miracle. Thank you, much appreciated.
Love those fat super chats. Awesome, awesome rolling in Look
at that. Wow, you guys are really cool. I do
drink correct, I drink coffee. I don't like alcohol anymore
at all. I don't look down on anyone that loves alcohol.
Plenty of people do, but it's just it just does not.
My body does not gibe with alcol anyone. This is
the real me. It's pure spurg power. Don't understand. And
even if I didn't have coffee, I could pull from
these spurg energies and it wouldn't even be a thing.
It would just be straight up real raw spurg energy.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 1: This movie is like three different movies. That's the weird
part of this movie, I think, And maybe this is
why it's not U. I don't think the critics were
big fans of this movie. It is maybe they because
it's almost like Act one is one kind of movie.
The second act is like Final Destination, teens invoking some
you know, what's the if you stand in the mirror
and turn around and circles and pick your nose and
scream for bit you Mary, she bit you, Bloody Mary
shows up and bitches you out or whatever that stupid
thing is. The second act of the movie is like that.
So the first part is like Tibetan buden demon thing,
and then it turns into teens invoking Bloody Mary, and
then it turns into a cult, a crazy global cult
that's bringing in the end of the world. So it's like,
I think maybe people were confused by three different movies
at once in one movie. But that is I think
the most odd part of it. It doesn't really bother me.
I always like movies that kind of just go crazy, right,
Like you think you're watching one thing, and an hour later,
we're like off in some other dimension. Like I like
that kind of stuff. So, uh, that's what we have here.
But let's get back to Act one with people the
the Nirvana fans in the Bhutan in nineteen ninety five,
So we're up there hanging out. The guy's possessed. People
are trying to freak out. And then because we got
this big hr Giger looking entity skeleton thing that is
just entranced the dude Bro. Right, So the dude Bro's like,
you know, he's down there, and he's like and then
he's so he's frozen, and he's frozen in this meditative
posture and he like like he can't talk. So the
buddies wander over there in the chicks and they find
the guy and they're like, oh, what do we do do?
What's up? So they can't get him out of this trance? Right,
carry they pick him out, carry him off.
Speaker 8: To this.
Speaker 1: Little hut that they found. Basically they stay ash their
dude Bro in the hut and then they decide, well,
we got to go walk, you know, miles to the
nearest phone or hospital or whatever, because they're up in
the mountains. Remember in the nineteen nineties nobody had cell phones.
A much better world before the cell phones. And so eventually,
as you can imagine, as always happens in horror films,
the initial people who set out to find help are gone.
This leaves, you know, one by one, the friends have
to leave. So this leaves one girl eventually left in
the cabin and the she eventually falls asleep, and our
possessed creeper dude in the spirit world seems to come
to her in a dream and get over her ear
and do the whisper thing. And if you remember in Isaiah, right,
the whispers that the mutterers, right, they speak to the
spirit realm. So what we were beginning to see here
is that. Okay, so things are happening kind of in
the spiritual realm, influencing right, the physical realm. Clearly, this
dude seems to be possessed. The girl there thinks that
her friends are coming. She's watching out the window and
she sees this dark black figure in the snow, you know,
approaching the cabin, the hut or whatever. So she goes outside. Oh, hey,
you know, help, we need help. And no, this is
a an empty thing like a husk. Okay, this is
a demon creature in tattered rags running at her. Of course,
she shuts the door, freaks out and waits and knock.
Her friends are there, and oh, you're freaking out, all right,
there's no demon creatures, there's no I mean, their friend
is freaking possessed. You would think they would be a
little more open to the possibly if demon demon entities attacking.
But regardless, they brush it off and Okay, we got
to you know, get him to the hospital somehow, blah
blah blah, And this doesn't happen, right, So the next
thing that occurs, the chick loses it. She stabs the friends,
pushes them off the cliff, and then throws herself off
the cliff, and then we don't know what happens. Fast
forward to now, right, So then we fast forward to
twenty eighteen in Missouri. But one thing that's interesting is
that the sequences of the events in Bhutan were day one,
day two, and day three. So there's this superstitious, bloody
marry element to it where the first day you hear
empty man. Yeah, then the second day you see empty man.
The third day he touches you and you die. So
this is the you know, final destination, you know, superstition
thing that goes along with it. And that's why the
first act is you know, structured in one, two three,
roughly the first sex first twenty to thirty minutes of
the movie. Uh, we don't really know what's happened to
the guy that's possessed. He doesn't get killed. He's the
only one somehow that doesn't make it, or assume that
doesn't get killed. All the other you know, free tibet
cool teen people or millennials. They're not millennials. It's the nineties,
but that age grew right, the twenties, cool twenty somethings.
They're all dead. But notice the inversion three days and
three nights. Right, where does this come up? The resurrection?
Obviously Christ three days, three nights very important. This threefold
structure will be number one of the movie has a
threefold structure, and then at the end we'll have an
explanation as to what this means. But I'm gonna go
ahead and take it to be an inversion of the
you know, three days as they relate to Christ's death
Buril resurrection. Now already we kind of see, by the way,
a lot of nods to David Lynch with the camera FX,
with the Tibetan stuff, the tulpas and so forth. So
here we are at twenty eighteen. We're in Missouri, and
we've got this dude. We know who this dude is,
but he's just a kind of a normal dude X
cop X investigator who owns a like a little security
store and by that I mean like a gun shop
with you know, tasers and pepper spray, this kind of thing.
And he's jogging across the bridge right A bad signing
right away for this poor dude. We see him the
next day. He's alone, single, apparently doesn't have a family.
Something happened. His wife and son are missing, are gone
that we suspect. This comes up later, but uh, it's
his birthday. This will be significant later in the film.
He's alone at the Mexican restaurant. Happy Birthday. Here's your flawn.
By the way, worst does dessert ever, right, especially you're single,
alone on your birthday and you're eating flawn. Give up, dude,
life's over. Flawn is literally the worst dessert of all time.
It's like cooked cheesecake custard. It's like, why did you
mess up my cheesecake, dude, Like my cheesecake was fine
and you turned it into it's the hey cousin flawn,
oh hey, and flawing. I'm becusting of cheesecake that no
one likes. This kind of a thing. Get that flowing
out of here, boy, Okay, So then this poor character
of the detective everybody's name is. This poor guy's kind
of me, you know, hanging out alone. And this girl
with the eighties bowl cut penis shape hairdo shows up, literally,
you know, the boy's bowl cut that's shaped like a
penis thing. This weird new aged chick shows up and
she's they know each other, and she's like, Oh, I
just wanted to come check on you after the bad
events I'm worried about you, want to make sure you're okay.
Blah blah blah. And I've found the meaning of all reality,
she says, And it's at the Pont Effects Institute. Now
this is where it starts to get a little weird.
So here we have the introduction of the cult that's
involved in all this that will be called the Pont
Effects Institute. She says, They taught me the secrets of reality,
the metaphysical secrets of all things. Our world is a
projection of your psycheoh right, like everything that we think,
you know, we can manifest that right, and the world
that we see is intentional manifestation, you know, typical kind
of far Eastern Carl Young Gibberish. She tells this to
our main guy. He said, okay, whatever you say. And
then we find out that he has a relationship to
her mom, this teenage girl, and that this in some
way relates to a missing person death thing. Trying to
remember all the details. Our main character is on pills.
I don't exactly know what I mean, like a SSRR
type of pill. I'm not sure. Because he does eventually
stop taking them, I'm not exactly sure what that means.
So you guys feel free to tell me why you
think if you've seen the movie him taking the SSRI
eyes and not taking them as significant. I wasn't sure
what to make of that. But we hear about a
murder that's occurred, and we are told the empty man
made me do it, so something there was a murder.
There's another murder that comes up, a missing person, and
in one of the murders there was because this ex
cop character knows police chief, angry black police chief. There's
always one of those here.
Speaker 8: He is.
Speaker 1: A woman murdered her children. I forget how killed him
something and wrote in blood, empty man made me do it. Okay,
so ritual crime, we think. Perhaps. Then we find out
that they're an inquiry is being made into missing teen.
There's a missing teen, the daughter that the guy was
friendly with of his lover. She's gone missing. He's out
looking for her, so he goes to her friends. She's
got this crew of you know, zoomers. So he goes
and he quizzes the zoomers and says, what happened? Why
did you guys? You know? Where's she at?
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 1: The zoomers are freaked out because they tell of this
story of being on the bridge in town, pooting into
the bottles and calling forth emptyment. Of course, hahaha, this
makes no sense. This is absurd. There's no empty man.
What are you talking about? This is, you know, urban legend. Themses.
By the way, I should add that the symbolism associated
with the Pontifics Institute pyramid obviously illuminate confirm dragonfly and
I think butterfly. It's either a dragonfly or butterfly, but
maybe both. Oh, we already kind of have some indicators
as to where we're going with this. So she tells
the story that we were all chilling on the bridge,
drinking beer, smoking cigarettes like the teenagers do, and we
got to talking about avocation, summoning entities. Oh we can
ha ha ha, this is stupid. You can't summon the
empty man through hooting into a beer bottle. Turns out
you can't, So beware bone flutes and hooting into bottles
because you will summon empty man and kill a dog
for his blood. I don't know what that means anyway,
Long story short, our detective character finds out that the
teens are being killed one by one. The girl, who
tells him the story of what they did summoning empty
Man eventually ends up dead, of course, killed by the
empty man and written in blood at the sauna where
she was empty man made me do it right. When
he finds the other teens hanging under the bridge, it
also says the empty Man made me do it. So
then he remembers that the girl, the penis bowl cut
girl told him to look into Pontifex's institute the philosophy
the idea of Tulpa's Right. So he's been told this
stuff and he's like, what is all this stuff? This
is crazy? So he starts doing his you know, internet research,
as every conspiracy person in a movie does. Remember if
you like, oh, what are wolves or were wolves? What
are vampires? Or they google vampires, and they find a
Geociti's website that like tells you what a vampire is
or who doesn't know what that is? What is what
is a witch? I will look on Wikipedia witch. Oh,
he looks up tulpa's he looks thought forms. Now it's
getting interesting because the tulpa is the thought form that's
created by intentionality right of the shaman or the group
of initiates to bring to manifestation, this thing out of
the realm of pure potential. That's gonna be important for
later on. And so he's googling around. Oh, yes, the
pont effects in this cult. This cult did a famous
quote a cult experiment on a group of people long ago.
So we kind of have like references to Heaven's Gate.
The experiment that they did. It's very reminiscent of Heaven's Gate.
It's reminiscent of scientology this cult, and it's reminiscent of
Oh Show. So go listen to the talk that Tristan
and I did on the O Show documentary, which is
a really good documentary. Go listen to the show that
Tristan and I did on Jacob's Ladder. Because this book
is essentially the influence the influence of Jacob's Ladder. And
I'm going to show you the Adrian Lynn article or
What's not Adrian Lenny. That an interview where Adrian Lynn
talks about being influenced by this stuff. Tim Larry. He
had a friend who was close to Timlar got them
asset and stuff. So he says, yes, the Tibetan Book
of the Dead experience is what you get with Jacob latter.
So there's gonna be a lot of similarities to this
movie Tibetan Book of the Dead Jacobs Ladder, all right,
so also if you look into Okay, so he goes
to he goes to the local Pontiffects Institute cult building
right by the way. It looks like a Masonic lodge.
When he gets there, he goes in, he says, you know,
I'm here to kind of just research see what you
guys are all about. There's this really creepy girl who's
the greeter, and she's like, welcome, we will we will
solve all your problems. Just have a scene, right, and
it's played up very well. I like the way they
did this. By the way, zone theory. If you've seen
the Tim and Eric skit zone theory. If you've seen
the zone theory skit, it's like that if you've seen
the Phoenix, the sphinx in Mystery Man. This is like
a mix of all those. So he goes in, he
sits down, and he listens to the local cult leader
give a sermon. This is a very fascinating sermon because
it's kind of a piecemeal Cafeterius all approach to what
most cults do when they take from all of these
far Eastern religions and blend it into this new made
up cult. Right, They're like, you know, we can solve
all your problems because the problem is within you. Right.
What are some of the sphinxes isms?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: Like, in order to you know, I'll have to look
them on. But you know what the sphinx does a
mystery Man, right Like he just says he who must
do this must not do that. Right, just pure nonsense,
empty elastic statements that could be interpreted to mean anything. Right,
And so basically the cult leader says, uh, worship yourself,
get rid of your possessions. All yeah, the cult leader
always wants to get rid of your possessions, right, and
probably donate them to the cult, of course, and then
you will realize that you are all right. So you
get this monism, this pantheism, this dissolution of his self.
Oh now it's starting to make sense. Empty man, empty man,
you become this vessel. Now the movie's getting more interesting,
non being, So it actually starts to verge into some
kind of basic philosophical concepts about ontology, metaphysics, being. And
the guy is kind of kind of transfixed by this,
and the main guy and says, well, this is really interesting.
But he's like, I know, I grew up in San Francisco,
he says. He says this multiple times, by the way,
which is a key later on the film. He says,
and you know, so I saw all this kind of
new agey stuff in the you know, eighties, nineties, so forth.
He's like, so this isn't new to me. I've heard
this kind of nonsense. But he's like, what's going on here?
Is something different? And he says, because in your sermon
you mentioned the empty man, and the cult leaders said, ah, yes,
the empty man. He he beckons to you. He speaks
to you, doesn't he right, And so we kind of
are immediately presented with this contradiction. How can an entity
that's empty, right, or an empty man, a non entity,
non being entity speak to you? How can you get
into your mind this kind of stuff? And so the
guy's like, okay, whatever, this sounds interesting, But so he
kind of acts like he's leaving, but he sneaks around
into the basement. Now this is where it gets weird,
because he goes into the colt's basement. He walks to
this giant, big complex they've got, and he finds a
bunch of beds where people I guess live at the compound,
and the awake initiates being initiated are gathered around a
just a black poster of pure blackness on the wall,
empty non being.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's almost it's not literally a portal, but it's
as if this poster is kind of supposed to be
this door way to the void, the abyss. It's exactly
what the cult leader says in his sermon. He says
the abyss. All right, we've all heard this overused cliche
phrase from Nietzsche. When you stare into the abyss, the
abys stares back into you. Well guess what, Maybe the
abyss is actually a metaphysically real place, the void. Well,
if you know your Bible, you know the Abyss is real. Absolutely.
Jesus says, of course that in the Escuton, the when
Satan is ended in his existence, excuse me, in his reign,
he will be banished. He will be thrown out like
a fire, all those things to the outer darkness. He says.
Those that follow Satan will also be banished with him
into that outer darkness. This is the same place. It's
the Abyss, the void. He listens, so here's the word
starts to get more and more creepy. So he's sneaking
around and he notices that these the people who are
being initiated are listening to a tape of one of
the you know, one of the cults audio tapes, and
the tape is saying there is no thing. Everything is
no thing, Reality is no thing. If reality is no thing,
then things are not things. Right, So ultimately it's saying
everything is no thing. Right, non being is the real being.
And that's going to tie directly into this because guess
what these Satanic people say, Since all things come from
no thing the big Bang, then you must return to
non being ego, death, self dissolution, and destruction. What could
be more satanic than this? I mean really? Wow? Okay,
So the reasoning is that because of the Big Bang.
This is chapter one in this book. Uh, there's some
ontological premiacy to when all things were compacted into this
you know, super mass, where all the galaxies in all matter.
By the way, this is all bullshit. Okay, It's total absurdity.
All of reality was compacted into a single atom that exploded.
What yeah, I mean, it's just total absurdity.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: This is the secular creation myth which no one has observed.
Absolutely no imperical evidence for this, one hundred percent a
fantasy not invented by modern science. It actually goes back
to these ancient pagan religions. Yes they taught there's old
chapter Chapter one is about that the Big Bang is
an ancient animistic pagan conception just dressed up in scientism
garbage to fool people who don't even know that they're
making metaphysical claims and arguments and think they're being scientific.
Literally had nothing to do with science whatsoever. Absolutely no
scientific basis for the empirical data of what happened a
billion years ago. Really pure science fiction, pure mythology. There
you go. Anyway, let's set that aside, though, because our
protagonist is wandering through the cult compound, he sees again
things very reminiscent of Scientology mixed with Oh Show, mixed
with Heaven's Gate, and he keeps wandering. He finds another
stairway down deeper, right, So he's going deeper, bring deeper,
and deeper, and we're finding out that, yes, as you
can imagine, there's an analogy between the conscious mind the
unconscious mind going down deeper into the subconscious, into these
kind of down into the abyss, this primal region. And
so as he goes deeper down in the cult compound,
he finds more and more bizarre things. So he finds
another level where down there is a giant open area
and they're doing a seance essentially, some kind of seance, right,
And he's really just weirded out because it's like, what
are they They're all sort of in the circle. They're
trying to evoke the empty man or this person, and
they all they all hoot into their bottles right to
call forth whoever they're calling forth empty Man. Now he's
sneaking around and he accidentally, of course, bumps something and oh,
he you know, startles everyone and then he runs off.
And as he runs out of there, he meets, uh,
this teenage guy that he saw in the cult meeting,
who's you know, a member, a new member of this cult.
And the teenage guy's acting really weird, and he's like, yeah, well,
you know, maybe you'll find your answers if you go
to the cult's retreat out in what is it Mark
Twain Park someplace I don't know where this is. I
guess it's a missourians He's like, yeah, go out to
the cult's retreat way out in the country, all right.
So the guy's like, okay, I'm gonna have to keep
my keep doing my detective work. And so he realizes
that when he looked up the cult experiment that it
was at this camp. Who would want to go to
cult camp?
Speaker 8: Not me?
Speaker 1: The last place, like the total nightmare, right, Like, imagine
going to cult camp. It just screams like, you know,
mind control. And this is where it's starting to get
a little more interesting in terms of mind control. Right,
So now we see that, well, okay, so this is
this cult is actually brainwatching people. They're actually making people
into perhaps empty men to become vessels. Eventually the girl,
the bowl cut penis haircut girl will say, our whole
plan is to be vessels for the signal. Right, he says,
She says, empty man puts out a signal. We are
the receivers the antenna for this signal. Now, this is
very interesting for the spiritual realm because that's kind of
accurate in the sense that what you like tune yourself
into in terms of your life and your worldview and
your choices and whether you want to follow God's law
and this kind of stuff or your own passions and
let them run your life, you're tuning yourself into different frequencies.
And the frequencies so to speak, that you tune into
will influence your perception of the world, your worldview, and
they can either be evil or they can be gone. Right,
there's no middle ground here. You're going in one of
those two directions, right with your life. So our dude
goes out to the camp cult compound. Now, just in
terms of the movie, this is one of the best
sequences because this is where he gets legitimately interesting and creepy.
So he's out there at this cult compound, he's researching
and nobody's there because it was you know, they had
a bad experience many years ago at this cult. As
he was reading the news articles, and so they had
to abandon this campground. You think it's abandoned, right, So
he's going through these different cabins at the compound, it's
all vacated, and he finds a VHS tape and these
weird kind of blood smears on the wall that someone
has turned into a kind of a painting. And so
he watches his VHS tape and he realizes that that
perhaps the occult experiment that went bad at this cult
cabin compound was successful. This made me think of the
CIA's research into a cult phenomena, SRI remote viewing, astral projection,
this kind of stuff, that's all real, that's all just
look it up. Plenty of mainstream news articles to talk
about the CIA doing that. They've declassified their claims at
least that they had success with remote viewing an astral projection.
I don't know whether that's true or not. I don't know,
but I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, again, the whole
LSD experience and its modern codification is out of the CIA,
beyond any dispute. Go look up Tim Larry's quote where
he says, you can thank the CIA for the entire
sixties kunterculture revolution and LSD. They didn't invent it, but
I'm saying the counterculture right. They bequeathed the LSD experience
here everyone and then steered the counterculture. That's what Tim
Laar is talking about. By the way, and I've read
five books on this. I'm not just making it up.
I'm from them. Okay, from them. Where are we at?
So he's out at the weird stuff, starts having teddy
bears start moving. That was weird. Not sure what that's
supposed to mean, but basically what we learn from this
is that our dude is having a hard time like
figuring out reality from non reality. So while he's doing
this and starting to pick up on the clues of
what the Colt's actually up to, he starts hearing this chanting.
This is the best creepy part of the movie. He
walks out into the woods and he sees this other
camp area where a massive people is marching in a
circle around a bonfire and they're chanting. I forget what
they're chanting, but a very very good creepy movie image,
and the flame does a pillar of fire, again the
use of biblical imagery. We know that the Israelites were
protected via the cloud and the flame in the Exodus narrative.
This is all the inverse of what you have in
the biblical story.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 1: So God is good. God is the source of being,
as Dionysius says, being is one of God's energies. And
so God created out of his own overflowing goodness. So
being is good. Created being is good. The created being
that is good is participatory in different modes and in
different ways in God's goodness. Right, This is common our
in Saint Maximus and May the Church fathers. And so
non being is an intentional kind of move away from
the good if you're a being that exists. Right. So
if I'm an existing being with a will, and I
move away from the good in the sense of not
wanting to be good, not wanting to follow the good,
that is what evil is for us as Orthodox Right,
So we don't give evil any substantial ontological being or existence.
So evil is It's used in different senses, but in
one sense it's a privation of the good. It's a
lack you can use an analogy of negative numbers. Right,
do negative numbers exists exist? Yes, and no. Right does
evil exist? Not in a metaphysical way, but in the
sense that beings endowed with a good rational nature can
do things against the good. In that sense, evil does exist,
and so non being, while not in itself evil, the
intentional move to get rid of beings or to kill
life is evil. And in this way, many Satanists, many
people who are consciously interested in the Left Hand Path
and this kind of stuff, they will be fairly vocal
about the desire to have non being, to move away nihilism.
Remember what Father saraphrom Rose says in his book Nihilism.
He talks about the stages of rebellion against God right,
and that final stage is nihilism for the sake of nihilism,
just pure chaotic destruction to destroy being itself, because being
existence is good. And these far Eastern religions are ultimately
highly duped because they think that they have enlightenment in
their desire to destroy or dissolve existence, identity, self, et cetera, itself.
You see. So the fundamental opposition that we have with
these kinds of religions is at a basic metaphysical level
about reality and existence. For us, this world is good
because it is created by God. God said, it is
good for the other religions most kind of like the
most of the world religions. Generally speaking, this world is
conceived of as the source of evil. It is a
prison right gnostic types of ideas platonism to be escaped
from two radically different views here. And that's what we're
beginning to see. What our main character is that there
is an invasion of the empty.
Speaker 12: Thing ever seen the never Ending Store? Look around, you
see this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: What's the bad guy in that? The Nothing? By the way,
that was Michael Enda's book is influenced by Crowley. By
the way, that's a very esoteric story. Never in a story,
very high level Gnostic Satanic stuff there for kids. If
you didn't know, Bastion is Moonchild in the movie, watch
the subtitles tells you that. And by the way, in
the never Ending Story, the Nothing is the abyss that
is taking over the realm of imagination.
Speaker 3: You see now.
Speaker 1: One thing I will say too, for us as Orthodox,
we don't make non being itself and evil. Okay, I said,
it's an evil in the sense of a privation, but
not having being itself is not evil. Intentionally trying to
destroy being against the goodness of God is evil, okay.
But something that's only existing in potentia, for example, is
not evil because it has non being. God did not
actualize every one of the logie that he knows or possesses.
God's mind's infinite right. He could have created all kinds
of logically possible worlds, but he only created this one.
So the ones that he did not create, which are
real potentia, they're not inherently evil because they don't have
actualized existence. That's silly. That would mean that there's evil
in God's mind because he naturalizing. That's stupid. So in
this regard, what we say about evil is that moral evil,
which is the real meaning of evil here, is not
merely metaphysical per se, but it is actually ethical, and
so in that regard it has to be something personal.
It requires a living agent or being to do something evil.
This is where we get ain't fallen angels and humans
who commit immoral evil actions, and that is really what
we mean when we're talking about evil. So for us,
human beings are not the only source of evil. In fact,
human beings are not the original source of evil. Prior
to Adam's Paul, there was a rebellion amongst the angelic realm,
and we're told in the Apocalypse that one third of
the angels in their period of testing felt they went
into rebellion with Satan. Now we don't know all the
details of this. We're not told every single you know,
mechanics of how this all went down, But we just
know that it went down, and in our tradition we
do have a There are arenas in which we can
know some things about this, this realm, so to speak,
and what happened. And if you want to go deeper
into that, you could listen to the talk that I
did on Loski's dogmatic theology. We're in There is a
chapter on the angelic realm, the fall of the angels
in the aon the Timeless Aon, And I want to
mention a little bit about this because in terms of
modern orthodoxyologians, Loski has the best summary of what the
aon is, why it matters in an easy digestible way.
If you want to read Steanneloy's sixty or seventy or
eighty pages about this and the aon and time very difficult.
It will be very hard if you're not into this
stuff or new to philosophy at theology or whatever. But
Loski's chapter is a lot more digestible, and he's really
just summarizing the philosophy of Saint Maximus, who wrote at
length on this topic, and John Damascus mentions it, for example,
in defensive Orthodox faith. And it's one of the key
ways that we're not playing this, you see. So Platonism,
for example, amongst its many dialectical tensions, one is time
versus eternity. In Platonism, eternal is good because it's being.
Speaker 8: It is one.
Speaker 1: It is monad contrasted against the many. The mini is
on a lower ontological status or plane, and so is time.
Time is a prison. Time is a thing to get
away from and escape from, and it's just bad. It
sucks right. It gives rise to flux, to change, to decay.
So obviously time and Platonism can't be what we're shooting for.
Orthodoxy does not see time as evil, nor does it
equate eternity with God. That might sound a little surprising
to you. Wait a minute, I thought God alone is eternal.
The eternality that God possesses is not equivalent to every eternity.
There is a timeless, created eternity known as the Aon,
and it is not evil, but it is not identical
to God. I'm not gonna read this whole chapter. I'm
gonna read this one section that will give you an introduction.
I can't We're not going to deal with all of
this today. But if you've read for example, I think
It's the Guru young Man Elder right, and Father Serifer
Rose makes the same point in orth Actually Religion in
the Future. Both of these books make the point that
the the other religions when they go into their meditative states,
when the shaman is experiencing that other realm, or when
the drug practitioner is experiencing the light of this other realm,
which we're going to see in chapter one of the
Leary book. This is not to be confused with God.
There is a created noetic realm that includes these thought forms,
that includes these potentia, that includes the bodiless powers, the
noetic powers, the angels, and the souls of men. This
is still the created realm, and this confuses people. By
the way, it's also the location you could say of
the geometric forms and mathematical principles. This timeless, intelligible created
aon is not identical to God or the uncreated energies.
But because it is a noedic reality and experience, it
fools the people who experience it into thinking it is
God and that the entities that they've experienced there are
God or are divine. They're not angels, demons, souls of men.
That's the noedic realm and other objective realities or potentious
thought forms, et cetera. Let me give you an example.
When you go to sleep and you have a dream,
where is that? You could say, Oh, it's just in
here and chemical reactions. Really you sure about that? Because
I'm pretty sure that even though it's a dream, there's
still a logic and a meaning to that experience that's
not physical. So the meaning and the experience of the
events in the dream state, even though they're not real
in the sense of this world, they're still meaningful and
real in another sense, or else you couldn't talk about it,
or explain it or have the experience. So where is that?
And by the way, remember, if you're a materialist, you're
not going to be able to explain this by just
literally reducing it to brain states, because those brain states
are not equated to the meaning of the descriptors of
the dream any more than a sentence is reducible to
any sentence, any word, any phrase cannot be reducible to
brain states or neurons. Obviously, this is so self evident
that it's not it shouldn't even have to be debated.
So what's going on here, Well, dreams, I would say,
represent the inner man. It's the inner noetic realm that's
very real. It's not real in the same way that
the physical world outside you is real, but it is
your inner world and it is real. Now, that doesn't
mean that everything that happens in the dream is from
the same source. You could have a dream that's coming
from your subconscious from you. God could give you a dream,
An angel or a demon could give you a dream. Okay,
So I'm not trying to be overly simplistic. I'm just
saying that dreams are an example, and I think Athinaceus
uses a dream as dreams as an example to show
that the human is not purely matter right. In fact,
he even argues, I think it's an ad genties He
argues that the dream is an example of the soul
continuing on after the existence of the body, you know,
goes when the body dies, right and dreams. He his
dreams are a proof of this that we continue to
live on in a noetic sense. So that's just one example, right.
So do we know all the mechanics of all this?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: I don't claim to know this. I don't think anybody does.
We have theologians and elders and philosophers and saints who
have talked a lot about it, and so we can
really kind of only give a rough kind of sketch
or outline of how the inner world interacts with these
higher realms and so forth. But I really appreciate what
Loski says here and listen to what he says, which
makes my point. One should avoid the categories of time
when we evoke eternity. If the Bible uses these theseategories, nonetheless,
it is rather to emphasize, by means of a rich symbolism,
the positive attitude towards time, positivity of time where the
encounters of God and human beings mature. It's ontological autonomy
as an adventure of human freedom and its possibility of transfiguration.
He's just saying that time is not evil for us.
It's a temporary, you could say, place of testing, the
temporal realm, this world. The fathers of the Church sens
this very well, and they were very careful not to
define eternity as an opposition to time. If the categories
of time are movement, change, and passage from one state
into another, you cannot contrast these word for word with immobility, immutability,
invariability of some static eternity. Okay, this is one of
the errors of Origin and Platonism. Origin literally thought that
the fall was movement away from stasis into change and
then down into this reality. That's not what the fall is.
Laski says, this would be the eternity of the intelligible
world of Plato, not that of the living God. If
God lives in eternity, this living eternity must be must
surpass the opposition of the mobile mobility of time and
the immobility of eternity. Maximus emphasizes that the eternity of
the intelligible world, the noetic realm, is a created eternity. Propositions,
universal truths, the immutable structure of the cosmos, the geometry
of ideas that govern creation. The networks of mathematical essences
are the aon or the aonic eternity that began as time,
hence its name, for it takes its name from the
beginning the age in aon by passing from non being
into being, but that remains without change, submitted to a
non temporal existence. This aonic eternity is stable, immutable. It
is the one that gives coherence to the intelligible world
and to the intelligibility of this world, sensory and intelligible.
Time and the aon cling one to another, for since
both have a beginning, they are commensurable. The aon is
immobile time Time is the moving aon that's direct from Maximus.
They're only and only their coexistence and their interpenetration can
make time thinkable. The aon is in a narrow sense,
in connection with the angelic orl This is everything I've
been telling you. Angels and human beings both partake of
time and the aon, but in a different manner. While
human beings conditions is by the human being condition, the
human condition is temporal, but in a time rendered intelligible
by the aon. The angels knew the free choice of
time only at the moment of their creation, when they
were tested, and they had a type of instantaneous temporality
from which they left when they fell for an aon
of praise and service to God, or else revolt and
hatred and fault. However, a process exists in the aon,
for the angelic nature cannot ceaselessly increase and in acquiring
eternal benefits, but without temporal succession. In other words, angels
can learn new things, they can increase in grace, but
it is not through a temporal succession. It is a
differentferent type of movement and change. Thus, angels appear as
intelligible universes that take part in the organizing function of
the aonic eternity. Yes, thank you. As for God's eternity,
the divine eternity, it cannot be defined either by the
change proper to time or by the immutability proper to
the aon. God's eternity as an energy transcends both. He
is arguing, he doesn't say it's an energy, but it is.
All the predicates of God are energies. When we speak
of what God has right, I'm not saying the persons
are energies. I'm just saying that when we speak of
God's attributes, powers, actions predicates there they're in that sense
their energies. The love of God, the foreknoledge of God,
the being of God, the simplicity of God, the unity
of God are all energies. That's basic palmos the necessary
course to apifasis. Apathetic theology forbids us from thinking that
the living God is subject to forgive excuse me, forbids
us from thinking of the living God according to the
eternity of the mathematical laws. So you see, there is
a higher realm. It is the location, you could say,
of the mathematical laws, the higher principles, the geometric forms.
What does he list, the angelic noetic powers, propositional truths,
these kinds of things, geome geometry ideas. That is still
a created reality. This is why Saint Maximus says that
universals are created. Platonism says universals are the one. Thus,
Orthodox theology does not allow or know of any uncreated
intelligible right, because God transcends those things. Otherwise, corporeality, which
is created, would appear as a relative evil right. Bodily
existence would be contrasted, like in Platonism, to the eternal,
and we don't say that bodily existence is not bad,
time is not bad. The uncreated therefore surpasses any diadic opposition,
namely those of the intelligible and of the sensory, and
of the temporal and of the eternal, And the problem
of time leads us back to nothingness, from which the
divine will raises us to make an other than God
us enter into eternity, that is, through deification. Now that
chapter goes on to talk about the angelic spheres and
the aon. I'm not gonna read all that, but very
excellent ch after just summarizing the basic Orthodox conceptions from
Saint Maximus John Damascus Palomas right on what creation is
in Genesis one in Orthodox theology. All right, so let's
get back to this where we at. By the way,
welcome everybody. We've got three hundred people. I'll read a
couple of super chats while we are taking a break
from that heavy, heavy discourse. There By the way, in
case you're wondering the logi, the logie in the divine
mind are the patterns and principles and archetypes and bases,
not just for the created things in this realm, but
for the aon as well, right, So for anything that
exists in the aon an angel, there's an uncreated logi
in the mind of God. That is the pattern for that.
So don't make the mistake of thinking that the logie
are the essences of creatures. They're not. The essences of
creatures are in the creatures. But every creature, every one,
every many, every particular, every universal is patterned on its
unique logi. The mini logi are one in the logos,
and the mini logos are one or the one logos
is many in his logi, right, and they are really
distinct from one another, or else there would not be
real distinctions in the world. There are an infinity of logi,
and Maximus says that they are one and they are many.
That's basic Palomas and every modern Orthodox Polemnite theologian says
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That's cool. But let's finish up with empty Man and
then we'll get to the book. So basically, after the
cult compound scene, the cult begins to chase him and
we start to figure out by the way that he
found a file like a file cabinet, and he realized
that the cult Shocker knows about him and has for
a long time. In fact, they know everything about him,
and it's almost perhaps like they have been leading this
dude right along the golden cult path. Now, this is
reminiscent of you know, eyes wide shut. You know, we've
seen this in many of these kinds of movies. The
magas right, the cult knew all along, and they have
you know, engineered your life to bring you to this point,
to initiate you. And that is where the movie thinks.
It's that's we think, that's where the movie's taking us.
Right at this point, we think, oh, he was the
chosen boy of the cult the whole time, and yes,
that's kind of true. However, turns out we have been duped.
We have been sham Lama ding dong, We've been shamaland
how do we get Shyamaland this dude is not just
a mind control cult creation. This dude is a metaphysical creation.
He is the tupa, He's the dougie exactly exactly turns out,
after this cult compound sequence, he goes back to find
the teenage dude that was in the cult kidnaps. The
guy takes him outside the city, bops him in the
face a good couple wops, and says, what is going on?
Tell me right now or I'm gonna bop your face
some more. This maniacal teenage dude is like, he's in
your head. It's all coming true. He's got you. He
is the one who will bring total and destruction. He
will bring the end of all things. He will, you know,
It's like he does all this doomsday type stuff, Antichrist
level stuff. Right, this is the figure who's coming from
the beyond. He will destroy all and he will inhabit you.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: He says, you are the tulpa that the cult created,
the thought form to inhabit the body, for the entity
to inhabit. Who is the entity? He is the evil one.
He is the angel of death, the bringer of non existence, destruction,
non being. I mean, I don't think the movie is
intentionally telling us that it's about the Antichrist. I think
the movie is unintentionally telling us basically this is a
kind of like accult version story of an Antichrist mythos
that this poor dude right doesn't know that he's not
even a real dude. And now we learn why. The
first sequence with him was his birthday. That was his
creation day. He was created that day by the cult
who through seance and meditation manifested this dude into being,
and so he's just a collection of a bunch of
people's ideas. This is the basis. This makes sense in
that far Eastern worldview where you manifest what's real through
right out of non being into being through intentional concentration.
And she's had some weird line that you know, the
bowl cut girl, where she says flesh is thought plus
time plus intentional concentration or some nonsense like this. Right,
So we find out that remember when the cult was
doing the seance and they summoned somebody and the guy
was watching from the background, it was him. He was
the one they summoned, you see. So our main dude, unfortunately,
is the tulpa. It is also, I think, perhaps an
analogy for mind control. So these cults that we think
are oh they're just meditation, Oh they're just you know, love,
And once again no, we find out that at the
heart of the hippie dream is a dark presence, a
demonic presence, the same demonic entity at the heart of
these far Eastern religions that are intent on self destruction. Yes,
who is that entity? Who is that being? Well, I
wonder it just happens to be always associated with death,
invoking death, destruction, chaos, the serpent spirit. I wonder who
that is? Who might the serpent spirit be? I wonder? Oh,
it's anything but Satan, right, believe anything but what the
Bible says. You see, that's how it's that's how it's spun.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: Oh, we want Antichrist, we want in times, we want
Babylon working. Just don't give me Jesus right, give me
all that evil stuff. Yeah, but wait a minute, I
thought there is no satan. Oh, but it just happens
to be an angel of non being and death. Who
is in Leary's book the serpent Force? I mean, dude,
come on, how is this not as do you even
need that much discernment to tell? Like all these ancient
religions worship a snake. There's this funny section in the
Leary book too, where he says, when the process of
initiation begins and you begin to have a fever and
vomit and feel like you're melting and dying, just go
with it and enjoy He says, you're going to feel
like you're experiencing hell and schizophrenia. Just enjoy it. He says, Okay,
so there is I think an analogy here for mind control,
for how cults have perfected the science of mind control
in k ultra. We all know, we've done countless streams
on that. I'm not going to rehearse all that, but
as you know, yes, with l Ron Hubbard you have
the direct connection to Crowley studied with oto stuff for many,
many years. Then scientology, right, So that's again the rough
outline of what we're talking about here. You find all
the same exo theology in the other stupid cults, Heaven's Gate,
this kind of stuff. It's not by accident that they
all come up with the same exo theology gibberish. So,
as our guy has his full revel that he is
the unfortunate creation of the cult, he is their tulpa.
The girl explains, well, I'm sorry, dude, but we had
to create a body for him, for our demon overlord,
because he's too much for the human bodies that he inhabits.
So it's literal possession. And they say that he just
kind of like destroys the humans that he inhabits, you know,
within a few years. And so rather than our demon
lord having to wait another hundred years to find a
suitable body to possess of a human We have just
created a tulpa for him to inhabit, and that is you,
by the way, so sucks to be that dude. Sucks
to be dougy.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: Then we see as he figures all this out the
moment of self revelation, the dark one, the entity, the
non being, steps through the portal, presents himself as basically
a big garbage bag of vomit, vomits out of the
garbage bag into the dude, and the dude sucks up
the entire garbage, juice, smoothie, all of it, and his
eyes go black. Typical. He's possessed the entity. The empty
man now fills that dude, because that dude is the
empty man, you see. And in a way, you could
see this as kind of like the analogy for what
Satan does want to accomplish. Right, It's not that he
just wants to have an Antichrist figure at the end
of the world to inhabit and possess. It's that Satan
wants to destroy man and for man to become an
empty vessel for the power and spirit of Satan to possess.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: Paul says that those who don't believe the gospel, the
God of this world has blinded their minds, he says.
He says that Satan can appear as an angel of
light to deceive people. That is the light, the dark light,
the black light, the black sun. That is Satan, that
is Lucifer. That's who fools these people, especially the Guru
people and the people who have the hallucinogenic trips that
go into the darkness to avoid the abyss, and they
see the light in the abyss. That's not God. Now,
God could come to you and save you out of
those experiences, but he also may not save it. You
may literally be opening yourself up to evil entities who
then begin to oppress you, is what I'm saying. I'm
not saying that everybody who's done LSD is possessed by
saying okay, but you are opening the doorway to your
psyche to be possessed, is what I'm trying to say.
You are becoming an empty man and opening that gayway.
And that's particularly why we don't advocate for people recreationally
doing these things. You see, that's my view on this.
I do not advocate that you ever do these things,
and especially not recreationally. Now, could there be a case
where I don't know, like a dude has ruined his life.
Let's say as an alcoholic. Let's say somebody is like
totally just they're on their deathbed. Could there be a
situation where the administration of ecstasy could help them perhaps,
I mean maybe might as well, Okay, but I mean
outside of these like extreme cases. No, I do not
think people should do hallucinogens at all. I think they're
totally dangerous. I think they are not the path to
enlightenment at all. Uh. And they again open you up
too staring into the abyss and something stepping in. And
by the way, you can still be deluded without being possessed, right,
you might not even realize that when you have the
solved the world moment at the beginning of the trip,
that could be a demonic influence, you see, because you think, oh, bro,
I'm so enlightened out, I understand the world, right. And
this is usually the pride and the arrogance of everybody
who has the acid trip thinks that they've solved the world.
And all you're doing, all you're doing is repeating, rehashing
ancient monism and Hinduism, right, you're not saying anything new, dummy,
But every freaking pagan religion is said for a millennium,
and you think, oh, solve the world, dude, the go
talk to any of these people. They're all the exact same,
right to go, all the dead heads, they're all the
exact same. They all think this, They think that they're
have achieved this like supreme level of enlightenment, and they
all they aren't even too stupid to even know they're
rehashing ancient animism and paganism. But I mean, just read
Terrence McKenna. Even he says it's just rehashing ancient paganism.
You don't saying anything new. Shut up, you're an idiot,
shut your shut your mouth anyway. But we covered all
that in the talk with Kotel last time. Maybe I'll
try to remember to link that anyway. So that basically
that's the end of the movie. Unfortunately, our protagonist doesn't
get out of this dilemma. We see a bunch of
sequences that show how he was kind of dreamt up
and created as a piecemeal of different people in different memories. Yeah,
that's all my notes. And then especially in these final sequences,
we see quite a few homages to David Lynch. We
see the record spinning stuck in this endless cycle lost.
We see Lost Highway, imagery of driving down the dark road.
We see the right the blurring, you know, kind of
a distortion.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: We see I think we even see fans spinning. I
don't remember, but a lot of lynching in imagery here,
the mo the this is based on a comic book.
The cover of the comic book literally has like the
Twin Peaks mountains flipped upside down. So Tulpa's I mean,
it's all very very lynchient. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean he's not credited, but it wouldn't surprise me
if David Lynch didn't have some kind of maybe consultation
or production role that he didn't want credited. I don't know,
but if not, it still is very very lynching. Is
it a great movie. I wouldn't say it's a great movie.
It's it's entertaining, it's fun, it's creepy in certain ways,
and you know, like Twin Peaks or Lost Highway, it
has insights into some of the you know, darker side
of the spiritual realm. So in that regard, I would
say it's worth watching a couple more super Barry Lurd,
have you heard you years and years ago on our
Big Dumb Mouth. It's good guys, remember that OBDM podcast
years ago. And by the way, we were talking about
hallucinogens on OBDM three or four years ago. Yep, he says,
I followed you since you always produce or link to
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Probably something is true, but I don't know.
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I mean, you know we're told that David was ready
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All right. So briefly we'll get into the first couple
of chapters, and if you want to see the full
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description of the show, and it will be out not today.
Takes me a few days to do this, It'll be
the next few days before part two is up to
the subscribers. So this begins with what you could imagine
from again, I'm not knocking Daniel Pinchback on a personal level.
I don't know this guy. Obviously, I have a radically
world view from this person. But he does have a
couple of insights in the introduction that he says, for example,
the sixties countercultural revolution has radically transformed society exactly. He
is perceptive enough to note that he mentioned some of
the bizarre characters like rom Dos that we covered with Kotel.
He says we got to look to key figures like
Alda Suxley, Ken Kesey, Ram Doss. These guys again, many
of them connected to Escellent Institute, which we know was
an elite funded thing. He says, the sixties, if you
really want to understand it, he says, it's a return
of shamanism.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: We want to have an archaic revival, a primeval revival,
the primal revival, primalism. Somehow, for some reason, we're supposed
to think that shamanism was better than modern world. Now,
maybe that's the case. I don't think it's the case,
but why right? So, in other words, a lot of
times the way dialectics works, or the way people are
convinced by false dialectics, is that they think, well, the
present system has this, this, this, this wrong with it, right,
which is probably true.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: So, because a lot of the critiques that, for example,
the sixties counterculture people made, some of the well, I
don't want to say a lot, but many of those critiques,
you could say, we're valid critiques. Are we too materialistic?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 1: Are we too focused on the here and the now
and attachment to pleasures? Yeah? Sure, okay, And then what
happens is that they give you a false solution. Right,
So if that's the case, then they'll then they'll say,
here's the bait and switch. Oh you see, so now
you must return to ancient paganism and shawmanism. Right, Oh,
West bad for Eastern religion's good? You see the bait
and switch. But it doesn't follow from that, right, it's
a non sequitor to say, well, if this was bad,
then it's opposite, must therefore be good again. Basic dialectics.
You could have two wrong positions. You ever thought about that, like,
maybe both of these are wrong?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 1: Think about geopolitics, right, everybody always wants to say simple people,
simple minded people want geopolitics to be boiled down to
a good guy bad guy. Have you ever thought about
the fact that maybe it's two bad guys? Hello? You
ever watched them off the movie? So we have it.
We have to get beyond you know, these this simplistic
kind of ignorant thinking, and that's very difficult, you know,
when we're dealing with sort of the the New Ages counterculture,
you know, wook, the woke wook, because they typically are
pretty simplistic and they're thinking, uh, now, one thing he
says that that is true. Is that the dominance of
scientism and the scientific method and empiricism is empty. Yes, exactly,
But that doesn't mean that I'm going to jump back
into rolling around in dung paganism. Right, That's not the solution.
The fact that Neil de grass Tyson is goofy is
not going to propel me to rolling around in dung
in India. Okay, that's not the solution. Right, It's not
Neil de grass Tyson or pooh. Right, that's not your
two options false dialectic. And I noted in my analysis
of Pinchbeck here have you ever considered that maybe both
of these options are problematic? And so then he launches
into let's talk about ancient Mayan civilization, into that really ancient. Look,
why is ancient Mayan civilization somehow higher on this totem
pull of spirituality. I mean, they sacrificed human beings by
the ten thousands on the high holy days, So I mean,
come on, dude. He goes on to talk about the
nineteen sixties as a shamanic initiation as a whole. That's
what I've said for many, many years, by the way,
around the time that I was really beginning to learn
that is when Daniel Pinchbeck wrote this. So that's true.
I would say he is correct in that analysis. The
nineteen sixties were an intentional shamanic initiation of the West.
Free Tough Copper, right, we read Copper's globalist book. That's
what he says. It's not it's dust in here. By
the way, that's why I'm scritching my notes. I'm not
snorting cocaine. As you can see, these books are dusty.
Let's see. He goes on to talk about the explosion
of the whole drug culture. He talks about John Lennon,
the influence of John Lennon, John Lennon's influences. He talks
about the u N basically sort of adopting this model
of counterculture globally, the natural, natural drugs versus big pharma.
There's some truth to this section too, by the way,
where he says we can critique big pharma. But by
the way, I'm sorry that big Pharma was involved in
the production of LSD. So I mean, even that doesn't
really that even that narrative breaks down, And if you remember,
you know Terence McKinnon did make a couple of points
about this too, about the dangers of big pharma and TV, right,
and we can I would agree. Is TV bad and toxic? Yes?
Is big pharma bad? Yes? And so these guys are
right about that. But see they give you the wrong solution.
Oh so, because that's bad, now you need to do
d MT and LSD LSD comes from these same people.
What are you talking about? He then does the same
thing of Oh, because Western religion is scientism and this
and that and problematic bad, Let's jump to animism, pantheism,
mythological archetypes, the return of quetzel Cotal. Excuse me, but
quetzal Cotal is who they sacrificed humans to. So no,
that's not where I want to go. Next chapter is
about the work itself. That's about in the Book of
the Dead, the idea of being liberated from death. The
book is supposed to be for the Guru, and it's
the Guru's guide for guiding the guy dying. Okay, so
this is supposed to be a guide, this introductory chapter,
what excuse me? Beyond pinchback the next chapter, of which
I guess is Tim Leary? Is it Leary? I forget
who wrote the show? It doesn't say, but I'm assuming
it's now beginning the Tim Leary section. Leary says Carl Jung.
Carl Jung is who we want to look to here.
Carl Jung's psychoanalysis, which borrowed from ancient narcissism and platonism,
was aiming for a dialectic or a way to get
beyond dialectics. Carl Jung argues that the way that we
get beyond dialectics is to integrate these disparate so called forces,
the shade right and the animis and the animal right.
So you can integrate that and then you will transcend
like the you know, division and separation and multiplicity and
the different aspects of yourself. And so apparently Young thought
that this book was relevant for that, because what we're
going to see is that there's not actual evil out
there in these entities, beings, thought forms, their manifestations of
your psyche. But the weird part about this was that
there was an interesting statement here about metaphysics, where Carl
Jung seems to say the problem with Western philosophy and
theology is that it's either or. It wants to fit
everything into a dialectical opposition of either or. He's correct
on that, and he probably knew that because of Platonism.
I mean, this is really fundamental Hellenism is right. There's
a either or of eternity good time back one good,
many bad, right being good, non being bad, and chain
of me. So these dialectics are problematic, and Carl Jung
says that when we say God is this, we have
a problem because we've left via negativa in apathetic theology
and we've given a definitional simplicity. That's problematic. That's true. However,
we're not going to say the opposite extreme of the
Far Eastern philosophers, which is that therefore God is so
apathetic that nobody can know anything about him. He is
not a hymn. It's an ultimate beyond being, a perone,
unknowable that can never have an interaction or a relation
with creatures and could never become incarnate. Now we would say,
as Orthodox, yes, the essence of God is a perone,
it is beyond being. But God's energies come down to us.
So we would agree with Carl Jung's critique of Western
doctrines of defining who God is, especially from the Middle
Ages on, but we do not accept his Far Eastern
answer that God in every sense is unknowable, an apathetic
that would lead us to atheism. Carl Young goes on
to talk about the way that the Guru is to
initiate the person underneath him to understand the ego death.
So the death of the self, the ego death, is
part of this integration process whereby man accepts and becomes
the dead man, and by accepting it becoming the dead man,
he can bypass and not be duped by the thought
forms and the conid state, the thought forms that appear
to him, the fanes that fantasies that take on reality,
the terrifying dreams evoked by his karma that play out
in the unconscious experience, in the initiation. In other words,
when you begin this process of going through the trail,
the journey, the shamanic journey, the journey the dead, they're
they're likening the journey of the soul in the Tibetan
Book of the Dead too. The ls the experience and
if you have a bad trip, that's what it will
feel like. It will feel like help, Okay. And he's
saying that you need a guide there because it's so
intense and so wild. Okay. So when you're going. When
the person is going through this, the shaman wants to
guide them. The the bardo right in this experience, wants
to guide the person to not be duped by the
phantasms and the thought forms that are going to appear, which,
by the way, just seemed to be like demons, right,
just like the clockwork elves seem to be like demons.
Just embraced them. Did That's basically what we're saying here. Okay,
So don't be scared and do and just let them
into you. It's basically what we have and in doing
so you will achieve liberation. Now here's where this some
of the things I had to kind of laugh at
here with Leary, because Larry says, when you do this,
you're going to feel like you're you're going schizophrenic. You're
going to feel like you're sick and nauseous, but just
go with it.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: It's like, maybe maybe I'm feeling schizophrenic because the drug
state is inducing schizophrenia. I mean, Tim Leary Excuna. Be
Aldus Huxley says in his writings that it does induce schizophrenia,
So maybe that's something that a person should be weary of, right,
He says, no, no, no, don't worry about that. It's
a birth death, rebirth right. And every religion that did tantra,
the Vedic sages, the Eleusinian initiates, they all understood that
it's connected to the wheel of time and being reborn.
Now here's a funny statement, ancient racial memories will come back.
I'm not sure that fits with the social construct view
for ancient racial memories to come back. Wait a minute, now,
you better revise that quickly out of what Timblary wrote here,
because that doesn't conform to what modern critical race theory says.
So then we get to this first initiatory state. So
the first state is what they call the ego loss,
non game ecstasy, the first Bardo of the trip or
the book of the death. This is the first step
on the secret pathway to elimination. It will deal with
understanding the game life is a karmic game. It will
be your awakening, the sleep I must awaken. I was
watching this and they just get reminding me of Doune.
And there's actually a line here that's very similar to
what agent Cooper says to Leland. Remember when Leland's dying
in season two A Twin Peaks, and agent Cooper reads
this line about perceiving the light or something like. It's
literally almost exactly what Cooper says. Anyway, So you're going
to experience a light. He says, this light is the
light of reality. It is the energetic transformation of thought forms.
It is the realm of the potentia. It is the unformed,
the unmade. It is the divine mind of the Buddha.
It is Buddhahood. It is perfect enlightenment. It is the beyond.
So the unmade, unformed that you're going into here this
light experience. And by the way, I've experienced this, this
is real, he says, is quote God or the creator God?
It is not. I will tell you that this is
the either created light that is being experienced in the
next spiritual realm, up the next dimension, up the noetic realm,
or it is a demon and demons can appear as light.
So whether it's a demon or whether it's just created light, right,
doesn't really matter because it's not God. And Leary is
very clear that that's what all the religions are calling God. Okay,
that's what Leary says. Now, what we just read from Lasky,
we don't call that God, right, God is uncreated light right.
John says that in John one. John says that in
first John one right, the transfiguration shows God as a
created like Paul says this in one tiventy six. So
we have to be careful not to confuse the noetic
realm and the experience in the noetic realm with God himself.
And that's precise. See what Leary does here. Leary goes
on in the notes to say that this experience isn't
he thinks his analogous to the birth of the universe.
So just as the universe was this compacted thing in
this stupid mythology that blew up into everything that is,
the individual must return to this pure state of non being. Okay,
but why, like, why is going back to being a
little tiny atom, which is basically non being? He's saying,
why is that better? Well, there's no reason to say
that that's better. First of all, it's not true this
explosion from nothing into being mythology. That's the secular creation myth.
But even if it were true, on what basis is
that something that we got to work back to? Why
why am I supposed to think that it's oh, it's better, right,
Because remember that this is making the argument that somehow
older is better. I thought he was most ancient mystic religions. Bro,
you follow modern Western christian man's religion, but my religion
it goes back a billion years the Really, maybe your
error is a billion years old. I mean, I don't
think it was a billion years old. But even if
it was a billion years old, so what like, on
what basis is just being older better? Maybe you were
the tards of a billion years ago everything of that.
But no, O Leary just assumes, and his idiotic audience
assumes that if it's older, it's better. Well, Satan's older
than any of us, and he was in the garden, right,
So just because it's older doesn't mean it's better. But
the assumption here is that since everything came from no thing,
maybe it's better to return to no thing. You see
the dumb logic here. This is how stupid it is.
And so therefore there is a sense in what you
could say that these religions are worshiping nothing, the great
zero in the sky. Ah, here comes the soy face,
mean guy, whoa dude? We worship zero? I worshiped the
Great Zero, the zero almight dear. And by the way,
another problem that's at work here is that there's an
inability to make distinctions. Okay, so in a philosophical metaphysical sense, right,
And we will give the Greeks credit for this, because
a Greek philosophy, Aristotle, Plato of Platonis, they were good
and the Church Father's even better at making distinctions and
making distinctions without it necessitating composition, division or separation, a
right apple hinosis from Cyril right, or the innerpenetration of
the two natures in Christ amongst one another without either
of them losing their natural properties. You know, these are examples, right,
the distinctions of the persons in the Trinity without there
being parts of the trinity. Okay, these are examples of
how philosophy and the Church Fathers were able to utilize
ideas of distinction without separation, composition, or division. But in
all these religions and philosophies, distinction is automatically seen and
perceived to be lesser bad or the source of evil
in general. Hence, why the ability to even say you
are a self is itself egoism. You need to stop
being a self bro, because when you say yourself, you
set yourself apart from everybody else, dude, and that is douchey.
You sech a deuce when you say that year a self.
Oh really? And then the guy who says that thinks
he's superior to you because he is a dude who's
a self making this orry. It's just stupid, right, all
of this stuff is childish and stupid. But because at
root underneath all of this there is a satanic component,
you can deduce truths out of this. You can see, ah,
I see the satanic deception involved in this. And then
by the way, we get another This is where he
makes Leary makes the funny statement on page twenty six that, yes,
when you feel like you are melting and becoming schizo
and your pelvic regions begin to gyrate, and you feel
like you're being attacked by demons and you have a
fever and nausea, just enjoy it. Literally, that's what he says. Says,
Just enjoy it, dude, dude, I'm feel like I'm dying.
I just enjoy it, man, It's cool. It's all good.
So then he goes on and he says, the light
that you see here is God or what we call God.
It's not God, but that's what Leary says. He says,
if you don't maintain this heightened state of experiencing this light,
he says, you will slip into the next lower phase
of this initiative initiatic process that he calls the secondary
clear light. He says, so after you've gone through the
ego loss experience, which is seeing this created light what
he's calling, after you meet Satan, I'm just gonna say
what it is. Okay, once you meet Satan and you
experience ego loss, which is not ego loss, it's basically
being initiated into Satanism, which makes you feel like you're
superior to everyone. And that's why everybody goes through this
comes out of it thinking of all the world. He says.
The next phase that you will probably slip into is
the ENLiGHT him about biological energy. So your next are
going to feel a explosion of creative impulse and understanding
of the biological realm. Right, the energy of the animals
and the trees and nature and molecules and plants. Uh,
and how energy is suffusing all of this. Now, that's true,
but again that's all created energy. Okay, So don't mistake
this from what orthodoxy says, because orthodoxy says, yeah, there's
there's vegetative energy, and there's vegetative you know, there's there's
created light from the sun, and there's human being energy,
and there's biological energy. Yeah, that's all true, but that's
still created energy. Okay, that's not God. It's the distinction
between God and creatures. God's uncreated creatures are created. Okay,
fundamental metaphysics of Christianity. There the pagan religions blend them.
Remember everybody's doing this. They blend and they say God
is the created world. God is the created light. God
is the created energies. God is the plant's brow. If
you have slipped down into this lower stage, this level
two of the trip journey, he says, you will begin
to feel something strange going on your body. He says,
you're going to experience the Kundalini energy that will either
you'll feel it at the base of your spine or
at the top of your head, the tingling hot heat.
This is the presence of Satan in your body, making
you feel like you are enlightened. That's what this is.
And by the way, for all of the goofy people
who say that this teaching of St. Gregory Palamus is yoga,
this is nothing. This is totally different. You see right,
everything Palomas is nothing like yoga. Okay, now that the
phrase of you know, seeing the light is similar, yes,
but sang Graia Palma says, it is not the created
light that we are seeing. We are not being suffused
with demons and serpent energy in our spine and on
our pelvic regions. Okay, nothing like that in Palomas. Okay.
Saning Graia Palamas says, the goal of this prayer process
is to become one with a personal God, Jesus, and
the spirit leads us to Jesus, who leads us to
the Father. So it's trinitarian, nothing like that here. It's
just so. In other words, because the same word light
is used, do you think it's the same. How stupid
is that because Palomus use the word light, and because
they say that the serpent power. By that argument, Paul
is talking about Satanism because he says the word light.
But no, he says that a demon can appear as
an angel of light, and God also appears as light,
So duh, shouldn't even be debate. This is stupid, So
we will stop there because that's the beginning of the
next stage of the trip, is these first two phases
of the first Bardo. The second Bartow will begin with
the manifestations of the thought forms and the hallucinations. Right this,
we're gonna start seeing the dang demons, okay, and that's
going to be taken up in the show, I assume
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I've started it. It's really long, so I didn't really
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very influenced by Crowley and all that stuff, and so
what's the Luciferian But there's the there's Cosmic Trigger, and
then there's one that's like Luciferian. So I read all
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