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Speaker 2: It's me, dire Way.

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Speaker 1: Who is this, I don't know, it's me. It's Amid

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the Ruins. It's a guy who makes dire Way of music.

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Speaker 3: Ruins sense dire way of music. What I've talked about in.

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Speaker 1: Probably one hundred articles of Jays analysis is the implementation

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of the AI smart grid in the giant smart cities,

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which is what IBM talks about publicly building. And that's

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where we're going, and that's what I think we have

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to be really concerned about. So all of these tensions, they.

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Speaker 4: Are part of a long term strategy.

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Speaker 5: To basically get everybody moved into megacities.

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Speaker 1: They'll be forced to they'll be forced off of land

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and so forth for an environmental reasons and basically concoct

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and invented environmental nonsense. Then you'll be stuck in some

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hell a whole megacity in a basically a carton size apartment,

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living over a target or something. We're inside of the

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target or Walmart. As I said several years ago, it's

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actually coming true. Now there's actually target cities. This is

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all part of the long term global of strategy.

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Speaker 5: But to get there, you've got to have the constant clash,

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the constant alchemical blending and mixing and smashing together right

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out of Manicheanism to produce the convergence, to produce the synthesis.

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Speaker 1: And that's what's crucial in all this and what is

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absolutely true from an alchemical, esoteric, philosophical, angiobolical perspective the

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fact that.

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Speaker 6: The ruling elite seek to be host Jason alsos dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can't try to fix today's problems political.

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Speaker 3: This is what so many people.

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they all seem to think that there's like a political

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solutions to man it's problems. And really the whole of

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modernity is built on this neopagan concept of political salvation,

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and there is no political salvation for men because man's

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problems are not essentially political, they're spiritual. The hierarchy of

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how man views himself in the world has been inverted.

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I've covered over and over and over the white papers

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that actually discussed.

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Speaker 4: How to invert and subvert that changing images.

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Speaker 1: Of man things like this. So what has to happen

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is that the inversion has to be reverted back to

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the way it needs to be and that means that.

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Speaker 4: First and foremost for man, it is spiritual issues.

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Speaker 1: Those come first. Then we have the things like the

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philosophy and the family and the social issues and things

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like that that comes act in race, where ethnicity can

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be classed as part of that. That is, in other words,

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you caring for your people is just a broader.

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Speaker 4: Extension of the family, the tribe, the nation.

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words in these terms. Now, America and Americanism is the

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first attempt at a completely propositional nation. And this is

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well known. This is not debated in political theory. I

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think even Abraham Lincoln referred to it.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 7: The way.

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Speaker 8: Is Jay I or Jason Nelson's.

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Speaker 9: Jay Diers Days mel Skade iron Face.

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Speaker 10: No Kate iris Days analysis. It's Jade ires Days analysis.

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Speaker 1: In our civilization, man has dignity because he's made in

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the image of God.

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Speaker 4: In Plato's athen civilization.

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Speaker 1: Right, In Plato's philosophy, the state is God is embodied

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in the philosopher King. It's basically like Pharaoh type stuff. Right, Christianity.

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Orthodox Christianity is the opposition to that. Now, does that

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mean that it is egalitarian wipes everything out? Absolutely not.

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nine hundred and sixty years of Christianity. And everybody who

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knows anything knows that. So be honest with yourselves. Why

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can't you, especially especially liberal lying church leaders. You could

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be disgusting.

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Speaker 5: Thus, my point is that what all this echo chamber

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alternative media crap is is a waste of time, is pointless.

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you don't have models of how to erect civilizations. You

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have nothing. I'm telling you, we have an existing structure

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of the Orthodox Church that contains all the truths that

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Speaker 11: And redoxantium met But we can build on what is

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still there, what's left in ruins right standing on the

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shoulders of giants. Facebook controls And when you read these

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you grow out of just a very naive biological.

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Speaker 4: There's obviously some aspect to which all men share of manhood.

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universal and we blend everybody into a giant blob of

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no individuals. No, that's the error of collectivism, one of

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the many dialect it. We don't do dialectics.

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and the leadership. All of this was laid out for

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a thousand a thousand years and fathers, especially the later

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Church bothers. We'll look at the all right. Welcome, what's

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up nerds? Happy New Year's Eve. We're gonna be talking

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about this. More interesting than I expected. Film Empty Man.

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It's not the greatest movie, but it was fun, very

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Mary David Lynch, although not David Lynch. So there's quite

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a quite a bit of homage. Are you familiar with

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that famous French word homage? Does that make me sound sophisticated?

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But not David Lynch. So I had a recommendation watch

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Empty Man and I wasn't expecting to find it that interesting,

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but as you know, the next in our Global Elite

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book series is The Tim Leary Psychedelic Experience, which we

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friend David Patrick carry that. We didn't get deep into

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the book. We kind of focused on his research into

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so he's the expert in that. I don't know a

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whole lot about that realm of philosophy. I've read a

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we kind of typically take the trek of argumentation, which

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we discussed with David, which is that the Far East

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that you can have to parcel out, you know, true

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and false statements here and there. And as you know,

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he makes those same critiques that we pointed out, right, monism, dualism.

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They're very useful from a social engineering perspective for the

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mindset of trying to get everything into a global glob

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the perennial philosophy in that sense, according to the way

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Perennial Philosophy, he basically says that these Far Eastern systems

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are very useful to global social engineering, new world order

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interests precisely because they group everybody into the giant Blob.

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Remember the Blob. Actually like the eighties Blob, the eighties

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b movie The Blob is pretty good, and in a

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roundabout way, you could say it's kind of making this

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point with Far Eastern thoughts. So we're gonna be touching

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on the first half of this as we talk about

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what empty Man's about. We're gonna give my explanation of

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what the movie is about, and we're gonna see a

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lot of parallels with but necessary distinctions between this and

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orthodox theology s in Gregory Palmas the Uncreated Light. You know,

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the typical false accusation from a lot of the opponents

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of what we talk about is, oh, you guys, just

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teach yoga. Right, it's just yoga. It's meditating to dissolve

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yourself into the one. It's neoplatonism, none of which is

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actually true. Of course, the early Church father spent many

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years many of the councils, as Father Mindorf says in

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his book Combating Hellenism and Combating Neoplatonism, in after many centuries,

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you have the victory over Originism, which is the real

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essential codification of a version of pseudo Christian neoplatonism. Right,

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it's ultimately Platonics metaphysics wrapped up in Christian garb, and

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the fifth, sixth, and seventh Councils pretty much eliminate that.

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But one area that we've not really spent a lot

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the timeless, created realm. And the reason that we're interested

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or people who've done hallucinog just when they have the

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hallucinogenic experience and they see non material you know, transcendent

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types of things like the light that they experience, they

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will mistake these things which are still in the domain

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of the created, the noetic realm, for God. This is

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what Platonism does. Platonism mistakes what we would say is

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a lot of the created geometrical forms, the angelic abode,

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which will actually come up in the book or in

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the movie Empty Man. People mistake that for God, right,

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must be good. Therefore, really, maybe you had a demonic

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spiritual experience, right, just because you felt good? Right, you

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can't make subjective states of feeling good or whatever pleasures

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that's not necessarily of God per se. And a lot

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of these experiences, of course, are accompanied by terrors, right,

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horrible experiences. I had a bad trip the first time

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I did acid, and we've covered that many many years ago.

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I don't do anything like that anymore, but back when

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I was high school. In high school, I had the

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bad trip. We've covered that, Martin Lande's face melting and

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all that fun, fun stories that were hilacious at the time.

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But we're going to see how we don't want to

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get into the delusion. And this is the main warning here,

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is that these kinds of things, right, they're not totally

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wrong in the sense of, oh, you never had that

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experience or you didn't have any spiritual experience. No, you

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probably had a spiritual experience, but that doesn't mean it

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was a good spiritual scress or if it or that

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it was of God. Right, So discernment. Discernment is the

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key here. How do we discern between a vision an

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experience of the beyond, of the transcendent of whatever, from

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being from God, from ourselves or perhaps from the angelic Rome,

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and from the angelic Reme could conceivably be evil or good. Right,

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So we can't operate with that basic bitch level understanding

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that anything that's a spiritual experience is therefore good. Right.

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This is the typical kind of New age attitude. Right,

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this does make any sense? That will all be very

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interesting when we get into this book. I'm halfway through

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the book now, so I have a little bit better,

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uh context to deal with this. But you know, when

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he agreed, right, and he is doing finishing his PhD

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in these topics. Now. The introduction of the in this

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don't know. I don't know Daniel Pinchback. I've never talked

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to him, but I don't really think he would be

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a huge fan of Jason Elysis. But I don't know.

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Maybe he would be welcome everybody. By the way, Yes,

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the Devil as father, deacon, doctor, and and I says

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I am spiritual, but I'm not religious. The classic phrase

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of the devil. You can of course support with super chats.

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in a long time. Somehow the algorithm decided that they

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liked that one. So thank you to the to St

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algorithm for interceding for us directly to the Zucker lords

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and allowing that video to go through. So it's had

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four thousand YouTube subscribers. We haven't had that. That's been

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the greatest two weeks I've ever had on YouTube, the

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last two weeks. I've never gained three or four thousand

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subscribers in two weeks. So we are almost at a

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new pinnacle. Seventy and then seventy five K we're going

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to have. Of course, I don't know what party you

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will have. We may wait till seventy five. We may

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do a party at seventy K. I don't know, but

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one hundred K. I feel like we should already be

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beyond that. But you know, whatever, we are at the

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behest of our zucker lords now and there so that

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you have like the zucker lord, and then you have

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the demi urge algorithm that controls and rules you, right,

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the evil demi urge algorithm that you must pay obeisance to.

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How do you like my Buddhist champ now? As you

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know to Betan Buddhism again, I'm not this is not

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my arena, but everything I know about Buddhism I learned

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from Twin Peaks, The Golden Child, and Empty Man. Tibetan

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Buddhism is a combination of the philosophic Buddhism with the

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indigenous older religion of the you know, Himalayan blah blah

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blah region. So it has a weird kind of syncretic

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thing of this philosophical strands of Buddhism proper and then

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the indigenous animistic gods and demons worldview. So it's a

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David Lynch movies. But really Twin Peaks as you know,

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tulpa's if you're a big Twin Peaks fan, you know

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the tulpa's play a big role in Twin Peaks, especially

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the new season with Dougie. Dougie was a tulpa. But

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in the movie, let's get into this movie and then

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we'll move into to Leary's psychedelic experience. It's nineteen ninety

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five and these, by the way, that was in the

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period when Free Tibet all this Tibet blah blah blah

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nonsense was everywhere. That was a CIA aided operation. The

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Free Tibet was a basically a creation, a kind of

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a cutout. You can look that up in terms of

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the La Times has an article on it. New York Times.

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Dalai Lama has kind of been, you know, either an

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and it's pretty obvious one you could see why that

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is in the realm of geopolitics, and so that's really

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beyond question Ingdahl has a whole chapter on Dalai Lama

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and free Tibet. That was a thing in the nineties.

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I was in the nineties. Were you in the nineties?

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Speaker 1: And in the nineties there was free Tibet right, and

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MTV used to promote free Tibet. And if you recall

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Twin Peaks, agent Dale Cooper, for whatever reason, he's all

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obsessed with free Tibet. Okay, So this was a kind

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of a color revolution theory, if I remember. In Ingdol's chapter,

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he characterizes it as in this overall model of color revolutions,

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and it had, you know, a larger geopolitical game to play.

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everything to do with you know, the East West geopolitics stuff.

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you have this team of people going up into Bhutan

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and basically they and yes, if you've not seen the movie,

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I'm going to, you know, kind of give you my analysis,

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So be prepared. Thank you for those super chats. We'll

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get to those in a minute. So you got this

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team of you know, twenty something probably you know Nirvana fans,

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you know, going up into Bhutan. They're they're hiking way

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up into these mountains. They cross a bridge. So the

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beginning of the movie is the crossing of the bridge.

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The bridge will come up many many times in the film.

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It's a key symbol and it just symbolizes, I believe,

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the passage, the bridge from this world to the next. Okay,

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here and there, and so they're hiking over this bridge.

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It's got all the little you know, Tibetan little you know,

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trinkets hanging around the bridge or whatever. They love all

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those little trinkets and ship hanging from stuff.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And one of the unfortunate cool dudes falls down a hole.

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He falls down a I look like a well, but

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he just falls down this hole and he there's a

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bone that excuse me, I forgot the bone flute. Okay,

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this is not a crude sex joke, although it was

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difficult not to make crude the sex jokes. And when

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they blow the bone flute, but the dude blows the

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bone flute just kind of like this thing he found

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I guess on the ground or they picked up at

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some market, right, you always pick up like the most

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cursed item at.

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Speaker 1: You know, a teal Wana flea market or some shit, right,

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Like it's like, oh crap, I just got you know,

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Satan's flute literally at the market. Sucks to be me, right,

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and so he blows this bone flute. And the whole

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time I'm watching this, I'm I'm thinking of I was

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waiting for the little Zelda Hello. And by the way,

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do you know the flute in Mario is the same

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sound as the flute, and Zelda the idea of paint

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playing the flute, the pan flute pan? Who is pan?

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Was the devil of course, right? So what does this mean? Well,

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there is in some of these far Eastern religions. I

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actually put it in one of my analyzes in the

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book I've already forgot it's the It may not be

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in the book. It's my mad Max analysis. I was

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reading about far Eastern things, and there is this notion

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what is the name of that word? What is that word?

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The name of the word, it's the whole idea why

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they chant? Okay, so when you're chanting, when you're singing,

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it's a vibration. It's a sound vibration that's intended to

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evoke a plane of existence, one of the like celestial spheres.

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This goes back to the idea that the celestial spheres

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are playing a tune a note. This is why, by

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the way, in Twin Peaks you have the record player

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that's playing the the universe. It's playing the universe in

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season three anyway, there's this name. There's a name for

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the which is why they chant certain intonations to basically

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harmonize with a level of thought. The ice, you know,

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frequent shapes, right, all these new ages talking about but

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there's something probably true. I think there's true to this, right,

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different layers of reality, planes of existence do relate to

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I think, different notes and sounds. If you've read the

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Narnia story, then you know in Magician's Nephew, Aslan sings

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creation into existence. I don't know how that all that works,

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but this is an old idea. It goes back to

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the ancient worlds. I think there's something to this, and

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so this seems to be retained in some way in

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these Tibetan notions. So when you're doing these or you're

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trying to like harmonize your frequency with the frequencies men

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this kind of thing. And if you do and I

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think Hinduism they have the notion that there is a

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god form, right, so when you achieve this is the

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same principle behind why they do the different you know,

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patterns when they do yoga, is they're trying to invoke

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a god form roughly the same idea. Here's probably people

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in the audience can remember this term that I can't

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think of. But so he plays the bone flute. It

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sucks to be you, dude, because you just played Satan's

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bone flute. Okay, this is the worst possible flute that

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you could ever get a hold of and hoot with.

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And they don't even play it. They just hoot, don't they. Right,

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So you play the bone flute, you're gonna lose your

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soul and that's what happens to. Yeah, thank you? Yeah,

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where are we at all?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 1: So the dude falls down in this pit, right, So

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he's accidentally played the worst flute ever he does, it

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falls down this pit. He's kind of led off into

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the distance in a trance after playing the flute, and

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when he falls down there it's just this little cave

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with like this bizarre spider skeleton thing. Right, so there's

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like a dead skeleton thing and you notice that it

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is you know, the hands of this thing are like this. Okay,

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this will be throughout the film. Okay, every time somebody

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picks up a flute or a bottle to blow, they

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hold it like such. Okay, and this is everywhere, and

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this is on purpose because this is well, first of all,

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it's a skeleton, right, So it's death. What is death?

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Death is a kind of moving into non being.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying when you die you literally become non being,

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but I'm saying there's a connection between death and privation

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and non being or non existence that will play heavily

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into this film. It's some and the empty Man. Who

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is the empty man? It's well, ultimately we'll see but

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when you're emptied out, you become a vessel. But this

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movie is about possession ultimately. Okay, so shocker, you probably

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figure that out already. But that's where we're going, and

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it's gonna be abundantly clear as we get into the

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third act. However, I'll say before we move on, one

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thing I didn't expect about this movie is if you

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watch the trailer, you think you're gonna watch some teenage

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kind of like, uh, you know, like Final Destination crap.

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Like I'm expecting this to be Final Destination and that's

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not what this is. This trailer is very misleading. Okay,

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it's not a Final Destination movie. I don't know what

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we're not seeing. The people's super chats aren't popping up.

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That's okay. I mean I can see the super chats,

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are going to read him in a minute. But for

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some reason, that little zombie, the little zombie guy is

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behind my picture and I don't know how to get

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him back on top, so we'll have to do that later.

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But I can see everybody's super chats. I'll be reading

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them in a minute. Plus that zombies is annoying anyway.

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We don't need him anyway. Screw that zombie. Uh, screw

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that zombie.

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Speaker 12: To heck.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why every thinks that I come on

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here and I'm like on something. I don't drink. The

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weed that we smoked this week was the non THHC weed.

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I've met up with my godfather and we went to

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that goofy hemp store and I got that non THHC hemp.

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That doesn't do that gets you really sold by mine.

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We've comeing down, man, we come in really down. So no,

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this is the actual me. You know what I'm on

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right now? Straight up espresso, dude, That's what I'm on.

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That is a damn fine cup of Joe Agent Cooper,

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I can hear. It's a miracle. Thank you, much appreciated.

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Love those fat super chats. Awesome, awesome rolling in Look

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at that. Wow, you guys are really cool. I do

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drink correct, I drink coffee. I don't like alcohol anymore

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at all. I don't look down on anyone that loves alcohol.

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Plenty of people do, but it's just it just does not.

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My body does not gibe with alcol anyone. This is

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the real me. It's pure spurg power. Don't understand. And

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even if I didn't have coffee, I could pull from

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these spurg energies and it wouldn't even be a thing.

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It would just be straight up real raw spurg energy.

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Speaker 6: Dude.

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Speaker 1: This movie is like three different movies. That's the weird

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part of this movie, I think, And maybe this is

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why it's not U. I don't think the critics were

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big fans of this movie. It is maybe they because

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it's almost like Act one is one kind of movie.

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The second act is like Final Destination, teens invoking some

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you know, what's the if you stand in the mirror

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and turn around and circles and pick your nose and

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scream for bit you Mary, she bit you, Bloody Mary

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shows up and bitches you out or whatever that stupid

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thing is. The second act of the movie is like that.

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So the first part is like Tibetan buden demon thing,

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and then it turns into teens invoking Bloody Mary, and

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then it turns into a cult, a crazy global cult

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that's bringing in the end of the world. So it's like,

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I think maybe people were confused by three different movies

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at once in one movie. But that is I think

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the most odd part of it. It doesn't really bother me.

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I always like movies that kind of just go crazy, right,

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Like you think you're watching one thing, and an hour later,

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we're like off in some other dimension. Like I like

468
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that kind of stuff. So, uh, that's what we have here.

469
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:10,840
But let's get back to Act one with people the

470
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:16,599
the Nirvana fans in the Bhutan in nineteen ninety five,

471
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,239
So we're up there hanging out. The guy's possessed. People

472
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,960
are trying to freak out. And then because we got

473
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,280
this big hr Giger looking entity skeleton thing that is

474
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:32,400
just entranced the dude Bro. Right, So the dude Bro's like,

475
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,719
you know, he's down there, and he's like and then

476
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,159
he's so he's frozen, and he's frozen in this meditative

477
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:43,119
posture and he like like he can't talk. So the

478
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,960
buddies wander over there in the chicks and they find

479
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,480
the guy and they're like, oh, what do we do do?

480
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:50,920
What's up? So they can't get him out of this trance? Right,

481
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,440
carry they pick him out, carry him off.

482
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 8: To this.

483
00:41:55,559 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: Little hut that they found. Basically they stay ash their

484
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,800
dude Bro in the hut and then they decide, well,

485
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,519
we got to go walk, you know, miles to the

486
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:11,119
nearest phone or hospital or whatever, because they're up in

487
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:15,039
the mountains. Remember in the nineteen nineties nobody had cell phones.

488
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,079
A much better world before the cell phones. And so eventually,

489
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:22,639
as you can imagine, as always happens in horror films,

490
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,719
the initial people who set out to find help are gone.

491
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,559
This leaves, you know, one by one, the friends have

492
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:34,000
to leave. So this leaves one girl eventually left in

493
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:38,239
the cabin and the she eventually falls asleep, and our

494
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,880
possessed creeper dude in the spirit world seems to come

495
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,119
to her in a dream and get over her ear

496
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:51,920
and do the whisper thing. And if you remember in Isaiah, right,

497
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,440
the whispers that the mutterers, right, they speak to the

498
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,920
spirit realm. So what we were beginning to see here

499
00:42:58,039 --> 00:42:59,800
is that. Okay, so things are happening kind of in

500
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:05,320
the spiritual realm, influencing right, the physical realm. Clearly, this

501
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,199
dude seems to be possessed. The girl there thinks that

502
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,440
her friends are coming. She's watching out the window and

503
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:17,400
she sees this dark black figure in the snow, you know,

504
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:22,280
approaching the cabin, the hut or whatever. So she goes outside. Oh, hey,

505
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,199
you know, help, we need help. And no, this is

506
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,719
a an empty thing like a husk. Okay, this is

507
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,480
a demon creature in tattered rags running at her. Of course,

508
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:36,679
she shuts the door, freaks out and waits and knock.

509
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,880
Her friends are there, and oh, you're freaking out, all right,

510
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:42,360
there's no demon creatures, there's no I mean, their friend

511
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,320
is freaking possessed. You would think they would be a

512
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,440
little more open to the possibly if demon demon entities attacking.

513
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:52,119
But regardless, they brush it off and Okay, we got

514
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,239
to you know, get him to the hospital somehow, blah

515
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,960
blah blah, And this doesn't happen, right, So the next

516
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:07,000
thing that occurs, the chick loses it. She stabs the friends,

517
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,800
pushes them off the cliff, and then throws herself off

518
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:19,559
the cliff, and then we don't know what happens. Fast

519
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:23,880
forward to now, right, So then we fast forward to

520
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,679
twenty eighteen in Missouri. But one thing that's interesting is

521
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,440
that the sequences of the events in Bhutan were day one,

522
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:39,400
day two, and day three. So there's this superstitious, bloody

523
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,119
marry element to it where the first day you hear

524
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,719
empty man. Yeah, then the second day you see empty man.

525
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:51,159
The third day he touches you and you die. So

526
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,519
this is the you know, final destination, you know, superstition

527
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:58,639
thing that goes along with it. And that's why the

528
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,000
first act is you know, structured in one, two three,

529
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,880
roughly the first sex first twenty to thirty minutes of

530
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,679
the movie. Uh, we don't really know what's happened to

531
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,320
the guy that's possessed. He doesn't get killed. He's the

532
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,480
only one somehow that doesn't make it, or assume that

533
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:21,480
doesn't get killed. All the other you know, free tibet

534
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:26,559
cool teen people or millennials. They're not millennials. It's the nineties,

535
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:30,119
but that age grew right, the twenties, cool twenty somethings.

536
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:44,480
They're all dead. But notice the inversion three days and

537
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:49,679
three nights. Right, where does this come up? The resurrection?

538
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,559
Obviously Christ three days, three nights very important. This threefold

539
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:59,159
structure will be number one of the movie has a

540
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:02,000
threefold structure, and then at the end we'll have an

541
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,239
explanation as to what this means. But I'm gonna go

542
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,320
ahead and take it to be an inversion of the

543
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,960
you know, three days as they relate to Christ's death

544
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,920
Buril resurrection. Now already we kind of see, by the way,

545
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,840
a lot of nods to David Lynch with the camera FX,

546
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:24,599
with the Tibetan stuff, the tulpas and so forth. So

547
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,719
here we are at twenty eighteen. We're in Missouri, and

548
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,320
we've got this dude. We know who this dude is,

549
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:33,480
but he's just a kind of a normal dude X

550
00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:40,360
cop X investigator who owns a like a little security

551
00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:43,320
store and by that I mean like a gun shop

552
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,719
with you know, tasers and pepper spray, this kind of thing.

553
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,239
And he's jogging across the bridge right A bad signing

554
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,000
right away for this poor dude. We see him the

555
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:01,000
next day. He's alone, single, apparently doesn't have a family.

556
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:04,199
Something happened. His wife and son are missing, are gone

557
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,840
that we suspect. This comes up later, but uh, it's

558
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,599
his birthday. This will be significant later in the film.

559
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:18,159
He's alone at the Mexican restaurant. Happy Birthday. Here's your flawn.

560
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:24,000
By the way, worst does dessert ever, right, especially you're single,

561
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:28,440
alone on your birthday and you're eating flawn. Give up, dude,

562
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,039
life's over. Flawn is literally the worst dessert of all time.

563
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:41,159
It's like cooked cheesecake custard. It's like, why did you

564
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,400
mess up my cheesecake, dude, Like my cheesecake was fine

565
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,760
and you turned it into it's the hey cousin flawn,

566
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:56,199
oh hey, and flawing. I'm becusting of cheesecake that no

567
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:02,000
one likes. This kind of a thing. Get that flowing

568
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:08,880
out of here, boy, Okay, So then this poor character

569
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,360
of the detective everybody's name is. This poor guy's kind

570
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,159
of me, you know, hanging out alone. And this girl

571
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:23,920
with the eighties bowl cut penis shape hairdo shows up, literally,

572
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:27,239
you know, the boy's bowl cut that's shaped like a

573
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,360
penis thing. This weird new aged chick shows up and

574
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:33,639
she's they know each other, and she's like, Oh, I

575
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,559
just wanted to come check on you after the bad

576
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:37,840
events I'm worried about you, want to make sure you're okay.

577
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,280
Blah blah blah. And I've found the meaning of all reality,

578
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:47,119
she says, And it's at the Pont Effects Institute. Now

579
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:48,559
this is where it starts to get a little weird.

580
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,800
So here we have the introduction of the cult that's

581
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,639
involved in all this that will be called the Pont

582
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:58,280
Effects Institute. She says, They taught me the secrets of reality,

583
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:04,440
the metaphysical secrets of all things. Our world is a

584
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:08,760
projection of your psycheoh right, like everything that we think,

585
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,320
you know, we can manifest that right, and the world

586
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,599
that we see is intentional manifestation, you know, typical kind

587
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:22,840
of far Eastern Carl Young Gibberish. She tells this to

588
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:27,320
our main guy. He said, okay, whatever you say. And

589
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,960
then we find out that he has a relationship to

590
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:35,760
her mom, this teenage girl, and that this in some

591
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,519
way relates to a missing person death thing. Trying to

592
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:45,000
remember all the details. Our main character is on pills.

593
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:49,239
I don't exactly know what I mean, like a SSRR

594
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,039
type of pill. I'm not sure. Because he does eventually

595
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,639
stop taking them, I'm not exactly sure what that means.

596
00:49:54,679 --> 00:50:00,320
So you guys feel free to tell me why you

597
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,679
think if you've seen the movie him taking the SSRI

598
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,400
eyes and not taking them as significant. I wasn't sure

599
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,199
what to make of that. But we hear about a

600
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,800
murder that's occurred, and we are told the empty man

601
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,679
made me do it, so something there was a murder.

602
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,039
There's another murder that comes up, a missing person, and

603
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,440
in one of the murders there was because this ex

604
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:30,239
cop character knows police chief, angry black police chief. There's

605
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,400
always one of those here.

606
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 8: He is.

607
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,079
Speaker 1: A woman murdered her children. I forget how killed him

608
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:42,199
something and wrote in blood, empty man made me do it. Okay,

609
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,960
so ritual crime, we think. Perhaps. Then we find out

610
00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,519
that they're an inquiry is being made into missing teen.

611
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:54,559
There's a missing teen, the daughter that the guy was

612
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,000
friendly with of his lover. She's gone missing. He's out

613
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,639
looking for her, so he goes to her friends. She's

614
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:05,519
got this crew of you know, zoomers. So he goes

615
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:11,000
and he quizzes the zoomers and says, what happened? Why

616
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:13,559
did you guys? You know? Where's she at?

617
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:14,159
Speaker 3: What happened?

618
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: The zoomers are freaked out because they tell of this

619
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,159
story of being on the bridge in town, pooting into

620
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:30,480
the bottles and calling forth emptyment. Of course, hahaha, this

621
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,079
makes no sense. This is absurd. There's no empty man.

622
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:39,360
What are you talking about? This is, you know, urban legend. Themses.

623
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:49,360
By the way, I should add that the symbolism associated

624
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:56,079
with the Pontifics Institute pyramid obviously illuminate confirm dragonfly and

625
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:58,760
I think butterfly. It's either a dragonfly or butterfly, but

626
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,760
maybe both. Oh, we already kind of have some indicators

627
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:09,159
as to where we're going with this. So she tells

628
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:11,960
the story that we were all chilling on the bridge,

629
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:16,800
drinking beer, smoking cigarettes like the teenagers do, and we

630
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:23,159
got to talking about avocation, summoning entities. Oh we can

631
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:26,320
ha ha ha, this is stupid. You can't summon the

632
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:32,119
empty man through hooting into a beer bottle. Turns out

633
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:36,000
you can't, So beware bone flutes and hooting into bottles

634
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,440
because you will summon empty man and kill a dog

635
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,000
for his blood. I don't know what that means anyway,

636
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:49,360
Long story short, our detective character finds out that the

637
00:52:49,639 --> 00:52:54,079
teens are being killed one by one. The girl, who

638
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:56,840
tells him the story of what they did summoning empty

639
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,320
Man eventually ends up dead, of course, killed by the

640
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,079
empty man and written in blood at the sauna where

641
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:11,400
she was empty man made me do it right. When

642
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:15,480
he finds the other teens hanging under the bridge, it

643
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:19,199
also says the empty Man made me do it. So

644
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,960
then he remembers that the girl, the penis bowl cut

645
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:30,199
girl told him to look into Pontifex's institute the philosophy

646
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,239
the idea of Tulpa's Right. So he's been told this

647
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,760
stuff and he's like, what is all this stuff? This

648
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,320
is crazy? So he starts doing his you know, internet research,

649
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,519
as every conspiracy person in a movie does. Remember if

650
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:44,320
you like, oh, what are wolves or were wolves? What

651
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,199
are vampires? Or they google vampires, and they find a

652
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,719
Geociti's website that like tells you what a vampire is

653
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,280
or who doesn't know what that is? What is what

654
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,880
is a witch? I will look on Wikipedia witch. Oh,

655
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,639
he looks up tulpa's he looks thought forms. Now it's

656
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:05,320
getting interesting because the tulpa is the thought form that's

657
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,920
created by intentionality right of the shaman or the group

658
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,800
of initiates to bring to manifestation, this thing out of

659
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,320
the realm of pure potential. That's gonna be important for

660
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,239
later on. And so he's googling around. Oh, yes, the

661
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:31,519
pont effects in this cult. This cult did a famous

662
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:38,039
quote a cult experiment on a group of people long ago.

663
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:42,239
So we kind of have like references to Heaven's Gate.

664
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:49,000
The experiment that they did. It's very reminiscent of Heaven's Gate.

665
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:55,760
It's reminiscent of scientology this cult, and it's reminiscent of

666
00:54:57,159 --> 00:55:03,960
Oh Show. So go listen to the talk that Tristan

667
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,599
and I did on the O Show documentary, which is

668
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:09,639
a really good documentary. Go listen to the show that

669
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,519
Tristan and I did on Jacob's Ladder. Because this book

670
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:21,320
is essentially the influence the influence of Jacob's Ladder. And

671
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:24,440
I'm going to show you the Adrian Lynn article or

672
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:27,039
What's not Adrian Lenny. That an interview where Adrian Lynn

673
00:55:27,079 --> 00:55:32,760
talks about being influenced by this stuff. Tim Larry. He

674
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,400
had a friend who was close to Timlar got them

675
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,599
asset and stuff. So he says, yes, the Tibetan Book

676
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:42,519
of the Dead experience is what you get with Jacob latter.

677
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:44,000
So there's gonna be a lot of similarities to this

678
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:48,920
movie Tibetan Book of the Dead Jacobs Ladder, all right,

679
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:58,679
so also if you look into Okay, so he goes

680
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:08,119
to he goes to the local Pontiffects Institute cult building

681
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,039
right by the way. It looks like a Masonic lodge.

682
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,440
When he gets there, he goes in, he says, you know,

683
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,320
I'm here to kind of just research see what you

684
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,960
guys are all about. There's this really creepy girl who's

685
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:22,960
the greeter, and she's like, welcome, we will we will

686
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:25,159
solve all your problems. Just have a scene, right, and

687
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:27,679
it's played up very well. I like the way they

688
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,199
did this. By the way, zone theory. If you've seen

689
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,079
the Tim and Eric skit zone theory. If you've seen

690
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:40,079
the zone theory skit, it's like that if you've seen

691
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,039
the Phoenix, the sphinx in Mystery Man. This is like

692
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:45,559
a mix of all those. So he goes in, he

693
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:51,159
sits down, and he listens to the local cult leader

694
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,920
give a sermon. This is a very fascinating sermon because

695
00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:02,039
it's kind of a piecemeal Cafeterius all approach to what

696
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,119
most cults do when they take from all of these

697
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,800
far Eastern religions and blend it into this new made

698
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,400
up cult. Right, They're like, you know, we can solve

699
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,920
all your problems because the problem is within you. Right.

700
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,679
What are some of the sphinxes isms?

701
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 8: Right?

702
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: Like, in order to you know, I'll have to look

703
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,519
them on. But you know what the sphinx does a

704
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:29,199
mystery Man, right Like he just says he who must

705
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,079
do this must not do that. Right, just pure nonsense,

706
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:38,119
empty elastic statements that could be interpreted to mean anything. Right,

707
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:42,840
And so basically the cult leader says, uh, worship yourself,

708
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:46,440
get rid of your possessions. All yeah, the cult leader

709
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,079
always wants to get rid of your possessions, right, and

710
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:54,199
probably donate them to the cult, of course, and then

711
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,960
you will realize that you are all right. So you

712
00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,440
get this monism, this pantheism, this dissolution of his self.

713
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:08,199
Oh now it's starting to make sense. Empty man, empty man,

714
00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:14,199
you become this vessel. Now the movie's getting more interesting,

715
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:19,239
non being, So it actually starts to verge into some

716
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:26,719
kind of basic philosophical concepts about ontology, metaphysics, being. And

717
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,519
the guy is kind of kind of transfixed by this,

718
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:32,280
and the main guy and says, well, this is really interesting.

719
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,159
But he's like, I know, I grew up in San Francisco,

720
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,079
he says. He says this multiple times, by the way,

721
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:38,239
which is a key later on the film. He says,

722
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:39,920
and you know, so I saw all this kind of

723
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,480
new agey stuff in the you know, eighties, nineties, so forth.

724
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:45,800
He's like, so this isn't new to me. I've heard

725
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,559
this kind of nonsense. But he's like, what's going on here?

726
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:53,239
Is something different? And he says, because in your sermon

727
00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:58,760
you mentioned the empty man, and the cult leaders said, ah, yes,

728
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:01,840
the empty man. He he beckons to you. He speaks

729
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,880
to you, doesn't he right, And so we kind of

730
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,079
are immediately presented with this contradiction. How can an entity

731
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:11,519
that's empty, right, or an empty man, a non entity,

732
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,320
non being entity speak to you? How can you get

733
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,079
into your mind this kind of stuff? And so the

734
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,000
guy's like, okay, whatever, this sounds interesting, But so he

735
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:24,880
kind of acts like he's leaving, but he sneaks around

736
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000
into the basement. Now this is where it gets weird,

737
00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:31,280
because he goes into the colt's basement. He walks to

738
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,039
this giant, big complex they've got, and he finds a

739
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:38,400
bunch of beds where people I guess live at the compound,

740
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:44,679
and the awake initiates being initiated are gathered around a

741
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,400
just a black poster of pure blackness on the wall,

742
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,880
empty non being.

743
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 8: Right.

744
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: So it's almost it's not literally a portal, but it's

745
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,440
as if this poster is kind of supposed to be

746
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:04,559
this door way to the void, the abyss. It's exactly

747
01:00:04,679 --> 01:00:06,960
what the cult leader says in his sermon. He says

748
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,719
the abyss. All right, we've all heard this overused cliche

749
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:13,079
phrase from Nietzsche. When you stare into the abyss, the

750
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:15,920
abys stares back into you. Well guess what, Maybe the

751
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,639
abyss is actually a metaphysically real place, the void. Well,

752
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:24,440
if you know your Bible, you know the Abyss is real. Absolutely.

753
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:35,400
Jesus says, of course that in the Escuton, the when

754
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:39,800
Satan is ended in his existence, excuse me, in his reign,

755
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:44,000
he will be banished. He will be thrown out like

756
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:48,000
a fire, all those things to the outer darkness. He says.

757
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:51,639
Those that follow Satan will also be banished with him

758
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,840
into that outer darkness. This is the same place. It's

759
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:07,719
the Abyss, the void. He listens, so here's the word

760
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,159
starts to get more and more creepy. So he's sneaking

761
01:01:10,199 --> 01:01:12,840
around and he notices that these the people who are

762
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,199
being initiated are listening to a tape of one of

763
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,360
the you know, one of the cults audio tapes, and

764
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,840
the tape is saying there is no thing. Everything is

765
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,960
no thing, Reality is no thing. If reality is no thing,

766
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:30,519
then things are not things. Right, So ultimately it's saying

767
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,079
everything is no thing. Right, non being is the real being.

768
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,400
And that's going to tie directly into this because guess

769
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,559
what these Satanic people say, Since all things come from

770
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:49,840
no thing the big Bang, then you must return to

771
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:56,400
non being ego, death, self dissolution, and destruction. What could

772
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,320
be more satanic than this? I mean really? Wow? Okay,

773
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:02,920
So the reasoning is that because of the Big Bang.

774
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:06,559
This is chapter one in this book. Uh, there's some

775
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,920
ontological premiacy to when all things were compacted into this

776
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,280
you know, super mass, where all the galaxies in all matter.

777
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:21,199
By the way, this is all bullshit. Okay, It's total absurdity.

778
01:02:22,039 --> 01:02:26,000
All of reality was compacted into a single atom that exploded.

779
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:33,440
What yeah, I mean, it's just total absurdity.

780
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:33,719
Speaker 3: Right.

781
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: This is the secular creation myth which no one has observed.

782
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,119
Absolutely no imperical evidence for this, one hundred percent a

783
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,440
fantasy not invented by modern science. It actually goes back

784
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,840
to these ancient pagan religions. Yes they taught there's old

785
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,760
chapter Chapter one is about that the Big Bang is

786
01:02:54,800 --> 01:03:03,239
an ancient animistic pagan conception just dressed up in scientism

787
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,920
garbage to fool people who don't even know that they're

788
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,519
making metaphysical claims and arguments and think they're being scientific.

789
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:16,159
Literally had nothing to do with science whatsoever. Absolutely no

790
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:22,119
scientific basis for the empirical data of what happened a

791
01:03:22,239 --> 01:03:34,440
billion years ago. Really pure science fiction, pure mythology. There

792
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,920
you go. Anyway, let's set that aside, though, because our

793
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:43,199
protagonist is wandering through the cult compound, he sees again

794
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:50,239
things very reminiscent of Scientology mixed with Oh Show, mixed

795
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:55,840
with Heaven's Gate, and he keeps wandering. He finds another

796
01:03:57,239 --> 01:04:00,400
stairway down deeper, right, So he's going deeper, bring deeper,

797
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,639
and deeper, and we're finding out that, yes, as you

798
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:07,039
can imagine, there's an analogy between the conscious mind the

799
01:04:07,199 --> 01:04:11,400
unconscious mind going down deeper into the subconscious, into these

800
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,000
kind of down into the abyss, this primal region. And

801
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:18,280
so as he goes deeper down in the cult compound,

802
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,559
he finds more and more bizarre things. So he finds

803
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:24,639
another level where down there is a giant open area

804
01:04:24,679 --> 01:04:28,559
and they're doing a seance essentially, some kind of seance, right,

805
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:31,760
And he's really just weirded out because it's like, what

806
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,239
are they They're all sort of in the circle. They're

807
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:40,039
trying to evoke the empty man or this person, and

808
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:44,119
they all they all hoot into their bottles right to

809
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:48,880
call forth whoever they're calling forth empty Man. Now he's

810
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,760
sneaking around and he accidentally, of course, bumps something and oh,

811
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,119
he you know, startles everyone and then he runs off.

812
01:04:56,039 --> 01:04:58,559
And as he runs out of there, he meets, uh,

813
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,400
this teenage guy that he saw in the cult meeting,

814
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,920
who's you know, a member, a new member of this cult.

815
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,960
And the teenage guy's acting really weird, and he's like, yeah, well,

816
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:12,400
you know, maybe you'll find your answers if you go

817
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:17,400
to the cult's retreat out in what is it Mark

818
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:23,280
Twain Park someplace I don't know where this is. I

819
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,400
guess it's a missourians He's like, yeah, go out to

820
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,960
the cult's retreat way out in the country, all right.

821
01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:29,519
So the guy's like, okay, I'm gonna have to keep

822
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:34,119
my keep doing my detective work. And so he realizes

823
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:37,960
that when he looked up the cult experiment that it

824
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:40,960
was at this camp. Who would want to go to

825
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:41,639
cult camp?

826
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:42,159
Speaker 8: Not me?

827
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: The last place, like the total nightmare, right, Like, imagine

828
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,559
going to cult camp. It just screams like, you know,

829
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,119
mind control. And this is where it's starting to get

830
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,639
a little more interesting in terms of mind control. Right,

831
01:05:57,679 --> 01:06:00,880
So now we see that, well, okay, so this is

832
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,840
this cult is actually brainwatching people. They're actually making people

833
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:10,880
into perhaps empty men to become vessels. Eventually the girl,

834
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:15,000
the bowl cut penis haircut girl will say, our whole

835
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:21,199
plan is to be vessels for the signal. Right, he says,

836
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,679
She says, empty man puts out a signal. We are

837
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:27,320
the receivers the antenna for this signal. Now, this is

838
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:32,280
very interesting for the spiritual realm because that's kind of

839
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:37,000
accurate in the sense that what you like tune yourself

840
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:39,480
into in terms of your life and your worldview and

841
01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:43,199
your choices and whether you want to follow God's law

842
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:45,760
and this kind of stuff or your own passions and

843
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:50,800
let them run your life, you're tuning yourself into different frequencies.

844
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,079
And the frequencies so to speak, that you tune into

845
01:06:55,239 --> 01:07:01,079
will influence your perception of the world, your worldview, and

846
01:07:01,159 --> 01:07:03,599
they can either be evil or they can be gone. Right,

847
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,159
there's no middle ground here. You're going in one of

848
01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:15,519
those two directions, right with your life. So our dude

849
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,639
goes out to the camp cult compound. Now, just in

850
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,599
terms of the movie, this is one of the best

851
01:07:22,639 --> 01:07:27,960
sequences because this is where he gets legitimately interesting and creepy.

852
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,440
So he's out there at this cult compound, he's researching

853
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:34,760
and nobody's there because it was you know, they had

854
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,920
a bad experience many years ago at this cult. As

855
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,960
he was reading the news articles, and so they had

856
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,400
to abandon this campground. You think it's abandoned, right, So

857
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,119
he's going through these different cabins at the compound, it's

858
01:07:46,159 --> 01:07:53,000
all vacated, and he finds a VHS tape and these

859
01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:57,559
weird kind of blood smears on the wall that someone

860
01:07:57,639 --> 01:08:00,199
has turned into a kind of a painting. And so

861
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:05,039
he watches his VHS tape and he realizes that that

862
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:11,159
perhaps the occult experiment that went bad at this cult

863
01:08:11,239 --> 01:08:16,560
cabin compound was successful. This made me think of the

864
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:25,039
CIA's research into a cult phenomena, SRI remote viewing, astral projection,

865
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:28,840
this kind of stuff, that's all real, that's all just

866
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,880
look it up. Plenty of mainstream news articles to talk

867
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,640
about the CIA doing that. They've declassified their claims at

868
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,880
least that they had success with remote viewing an astral projection.

869
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:42,159
I don't know whether that's true or not. I don't know,

870
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,520
but I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, again, the whole

871
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,439
LSD experience and its modern codification is out of the CIA,

872
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,920
beyond any dispute. Go look up Tim Larry's quote where

873
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,560
he says, you can thank the CIA for the entire

874
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:03,119
sixties kunterculture revolution and LSD. They didn't invent it, but

875
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:08,920
I'm saying the counterculture right. They bequeathed the LSD experience

876
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,600
here everyone and then steered the counterculture. That's what Tim

877
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,640
Laar is talking about. By the way, and I've read

878
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,279
five books on this. I'm not just making it up.

879
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:21,479
I'm from them. Okay, from them. Where are we at?

880
01:09:22,039 --> 01:09:26,119
So he's out at the weird stuff, starts having teddy

881
01:09:26,159 --> 01:09:29,880
bears start moving. That was weird. Not sure what that's

882
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,359
supposed to mean, but basically what we learn from this

883
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,920
is that our dude is having a hard time like

884
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:43,680
figuring out reality from non reality. So while he's doing

885
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,039
this and starting to pick up on the clues of

886
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:48,680
what the Colt's actually up to, he starts hearing this chanting.

887
01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:51,359
This is the best creepy part of the movie. He

888
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,359
walks out into the woods and he sees this other

889
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,800
camp area where a massive people is marching in a

890
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:03,520
circle around a bonfire and they're chanting. I forget what

891
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,000
they're chanting, but a very very good creepy movie image,

892
01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:14,119
and the flame does a pillar of fire, again the

893
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:17,000
use of biblical imagery. We know that the Israelites were

894
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:23,520
protected via the cloud and the flame in the Exodus narrative.

895
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:27,439
This is all the inverse of what you have in

896
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,439
the biblical story.

897
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 9: Right.

898
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: So God is good. God is the source of being,

899
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,560
as Dionysius says, being is one of God's energies. And

900
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,640
so God created out of his own overflowing goodness. So

901
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:50,520
being is good. Created being is good. The created being

902
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,920
that is good is participatory in different modes and in

903
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,920
different ways in God's goodness. Right, This is common our

904
01:11:00,319 --> 01:11:03,560
in Saint Maximus and May the Church fathers. And so

905
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,279
non being is an intentional kind of move away from

906
01:11:09,399 --> 01:11:12,000
the good if you're a being that exists. Right. So

907
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:14,880
if I'm an existing being with a will, and I

908
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,840
move away from the good in the sense of not

909
01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:20,399
wanting to be good, not wanting to follow the good,

910
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,359
that is what evil is for us as Orthodox Right,

911
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:30,600
So we don't give evil any substantial ontological being or existence.

912
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,119
So evil is It's used in different senses, but in

913
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:37,039
one sense it's a privation of the good. It's a

914
01:11:37,159 --> 01:11:41,520
lack you can use an analogy of negative numbers. Right,

915
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:47,239
do negative numbers exists exist? Yes, and no. Right does

916
01:11:47,319 --> 01:11:51,239
evil exist? Not in a metaphysical way, but in the

917
01:11:51,359 --> 01:11:56,399
sense that beings endowed with a good rational nature can

918
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,399
do things against the good. In that sense, evil does exist,

919
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:07,520
and so non being, while not in itself evil, the

920
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,920
intentional move to get rid of beings or to kill

921
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:20,760
life is evil. And in this way, many Satanists, many

922
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,680
people who are consciously interested in the Left Hand Path

923
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,760
and this kind of stuff, they will be fairly vocal

924
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,840
about the desire to have non being, to move away nihilism.

925
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,640
Remember what Father saraphrom Rose says in his book Nihilism.

926
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,039
He talks about the stages of rebellion against God right,

927
01:12:40,079 --> 01:12:43,680
and that final stage is nihilism for the sake of nihilism,

928
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:49,720
just pure chaotic destruction to destroy being itself, because being

929
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:54,279
existence is good. And these far Eastern religions are ultimately

930
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,680
highly duped because they think that they have enlightenment in

931
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:06,680
their desire to destroy or dissolve existence, identity, self, et cetera, itself.

932
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:13,600
You see. So the fundamental opposition that we have with

933
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:18,279
these kinds of religions is at a basic metaphysical level

934
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,439
about reality and existence. For us, this world is good

935
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,640
because it is created by God. God said, it is

936
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:32,840
good for the other religions most kind of like the

937
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,399
most of the world religions. Generally speaking, this world is

938
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,359
conceived of as the source of evil. It is a

939
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:46,439
prison right gnostic types of ideas platonism to be escaped

940
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,960
from two radically different views here. And that's what we're

941
01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:55,319
beginning to see. What our main character is that there

942
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,880
is an invasion of the empty.

943
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 12: Thing ever seen the never Ending Store? Look around, you

944
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,359
see this kind of stuff.

945
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:16,319
Speaker 1: What's the bad guy in that? The Nothing? By the way,

946
01:14:16,359 --> 01:14:18,800
that was Michael Enda's book is influenced by Crowley. By

947
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,479
the way, that's a very esoteric story. Never in a story,

948
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,439
very high level Gnostic Satanic stuff there for kids. If

949
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:39,720
you didn't know, Bastion is Moonchild in the movie, watch

950
01:14:42,079 --> 01:14:47,479
the subtitles tells you that. And by the way, in

951
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,439
the never Ending Story, the Nothing is the abyss that

952
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,600
is taking over the realm of imagination.

953
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,279
Speaker 3: You see now.

954
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,079
Speaker 1: One thing I will say too, for us as Orthodox,

955
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:07,920
we don't make non being itself and evil. Okay, I said,

956
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,840
it's an evil in the sense of a privation, but

957
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:18,720
not having being itself is not evil. Intentionally trying to

958
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,000
destroy being against the goodness of God is evil, okay.

959
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,279
But something that's only existing in potentia, for example, is

960
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:33,199
not evil because it has non being. God did not

961
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,760
actualize every one of the logie that he knows or possesses.

962
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,359
God's mind's infinite right. He could have created all kinds

963
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:45,760
of logically possible worlds, but he only created this one.

964
01:15:47,399 --> 01:15:51,159
So the ones that he did not create, which are

965
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:55,039
real potentia, they're not inherently evil because they don't have

966
01:15:55,239 --> 01:15:58,760
actualized existence. That's silly. That would mean that there's evil

967
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:04,680
in God's mind because he naturalizing. That's stupid. So in

968
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:09,680
this regard, what we say about evil is that moral evil,

969
01:16:10,279 --> 01:16:16,079
which is the real meaning of evil here, is not

970
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,880
merely metaphysical per se, but it is actually ethical, and

971
01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:26,039
so in that regard it has to be something personal.

972
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:32,000
It requires a living agent or being to do something evil.

973
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,880
This is where we get ain't fallen angels and humans

974
01:16:37,119 --> 01:16:40,920
who commit immoral evil actions, and that is really what

975
01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:44,960
we mean when we're talking about evil. So for us,

976
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:49,079
human beings are not the only source of evil. In fact,

977
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,760
human beings are not the original source of evil. Prior

978
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:57,439
to Adam's Paul, there was a rebellion amongst the angelic realm,

979
01:16:58,319 --> 01:17:00,560
and we're told in the Apocalypse that one third of

980
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:06,800
the angels in their period of testing felt they went

981
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,000
into rebellion with Satan. Now we don't know all the

982
01:17:10,079 --> 01:17:13,439
details of this. We're not told every single you know,

983
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,079
mechanics of how this all went down, But we just

984
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:20,800
know that it went down, and in our tradition we

985
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,640
do have a There are arenas in which we can

986
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,399
know some things about this, this realm, so to speak,

987
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,239
and what happened. And if you want to go deeper

988
01:17:32,279 --> 01:17:34,199
into that, you could listen to the talk that I

989
01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:40,159
did on Loski's dogmatic theology. We're in There is a

990
01:17:40,319 --> 01:17:43,520
chapter on the angelic realm, the fall of the angels

991
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,960
in the aon the Timeless Aon, And I want to

992
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,399
mention a little bit about this because in terms of

993
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:58,119
modern orthodoxyologians, Loski has the best summary of what the

994
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:02,680
aon is, why it matters in an easy digestible way.

995
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,640
If you want to read Steanneloy's sixty or seventy or

996
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:10,720
eighty pages about this and the aon and time very difficult.

997
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,680
It will be very hard if you're not into this

998
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,239
stuff or new to philosophy at theology or whatever. But

999
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,600
Loski's chapter is a lot more digestible, and he's really

1000
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,439
just summarizing the philosophy of Saint Maximus, who wrote at

1001
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,880
length on this topic, and John Damascus mentions it, for example,

1002
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,039
in defensive Orthodox faith. And it's one of the key

1003
01:18:33,119 --> 01:18:36,560
ways that we're not playing this, you see. So Platonism,

1004
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,000
for example, amongst its many dialectical tensions, one is time

1005
01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:45,960
versus eternity. In Platonism, eternal is good because it's being.

1006
01:18:46,119 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 8: It is one.

1007
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: It is monad contrasted against the many. The mini is

1008
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:54,560
on a lower ontological status or plane, and so is time.

1009
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,039
Time is a prison. Time is a thing to get

1010
01:18:58,079 --> 01:19:01,720
away from and escape from, and it's just bad. It

1011
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,760
sucks right. It gives rise to flux, to change, to decay.

1012
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,479
So obviously time and Platonism can't be what we're shooting for.

1013
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,279
Orthodoxy does not see time as evil, nor does it

1014
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:21,640
equate eternity with God. That might sound a little surprising

1015
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,880
to you. Wait a minute, I thought God alone is eternal.

1016
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:30,079
The eternality that God possesses is not equivalent to every eternity.

1017
01:19:31,279 --> 01:19:36,159
There is a timeless, created eternity known as the Aon,

1018
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:42,239
and it is not evil, but it is not identical

1019
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,960
to God. I'm not gonna read this whole chapter. I'm

1020
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,359
gonna read this one section that will give you an introduction.

1021
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:51,399
I can't We're not going to deal with all of

1022
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,399
this today. But if you've read for example, I think

1023
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:58,840
It's the Guru young Man Elder right, and Father Serifer

1024
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,079
Rose makes the same point in orth Actually Religion in

1025
01:20:02,079 --> 01:20:04,640
the Future. Both of these books make the point that

1026
01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:10,159
the the other religions when they go into their meditative states,

1027
01:20:11,319 --> 01:20:15,960
when the shaman is experiencing that other realm, or when

1028
01:20:16,079 --> 01:20:21,199
the drug practitioner is experiencing the light of this other realm,

1029
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:23,560
which we're going to see in chapter one of the

1030
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,920
Leary book. This is not to be confused with God.

1031
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:34,399
There is a created noetic realm that includes these thought forms,

1032
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:40,720
that includes these potentia, that includes the bodiless powers, the

1033
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:47,520
noetic powers, the angels, and the souls of men. This

1034
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,319
is still the created realm, and this confuses people. By

1035
01:20:51,359 --> 01:20:55,119
the way, it's also the location you could say of

1036
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:02,720
the geometric forms and mathematical principles. This timeless, intelligible created

1037
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,920
aon is not identical to God or the uncreated energies.

1038
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,960
But because it is a noedic reality and experience, it

1039
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:16,279
fools the people who experience it into thinking it is

1040
01:21:16,359 --> 01:21:21,920
God and that the entities that they've experienced there are

1041
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:28,279
God or are divine. They're not angels, demons, souls of men.

1042
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:33,720
That's the noedic realm and other objective realities or potentious

1043
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,039
thought forms, et cetera. Let me give you an example.

1044
01:21:40,359 --> 01:21:42,920
When you go to sleep and you have a dream,

1045
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,199
where is that? You could say, Oh, it's just in

1046
01:21:48,359 --> 01:21:52,479
here and chemical reactions. Really you sure about that? Because

1047
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,520
I'm pretty sure that even though it's a dream, there's

1048
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:02,239
still a logic and a meaning to that experience that's

1049
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:08,800
not physical. So the meaning and the experience of the

1050
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,600
events in the dream state, even though they're not real

1051
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,960
in the sense of this world, they're still meaningful and

1052
01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:20,560
real in another sense, or else you couldn't talk about it,

1053
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:27,520
or explain it or have the experience. So where is that?

1054
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,479
And by the way, remember, if you're a materialist, you're

1055
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,119
not going to be able to explain this by just

1056
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,560
literally reducing it to brain states, because those brain states

1057
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,439
are not equated to the meaning of the descriptors of

1058
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:48,119
the dream any more than a sentence is reducible to

1059
01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:51,680
any sentence, any word, any phrase cannot be reducible to

1060
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:58,359
brain states or neurons. Obviously, this is so self evident

1061
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,520
that it's not it shouldn't even have to be debated.

1062
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:07,039
So what's going on here, Well, dreams, I would say,

1063
01:23:07,279 --> 01:23:12,319
represent the inner man. It's the inner noetic realm that's

1064
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,920
very real. It's not real in the same way that

1065
01:23:16,159 --> 01:23:18,960
the physical world outside you is real, but it is

1066
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:23,680
your inner world and it is real. Now, that doesn't

1067
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,239
mean that everything that happens in the dream is from

1068
01:23:26,319 --> 01:23:28,399
the same source. You could have a dream that's coming

1069
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,960
from your subconscious from you. God could give you a dream,

1070
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,880
An angel or a demon could give you a dream. Okay,

1071
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,520
So I'm not trying to be overly simplistic. I'm just

1072
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,600
saying that dreams are an example, and I think Athinaceus

1073
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,199
uses a dream as dreams as an example to show

1074
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:50,439
that the human is not purely matter right. In fact,

1075
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,560
he even argues, I think it's an ad genties He

1076
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,640
argues that the dream is an example of the soul

1077
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,439
continuing on after the existence of the body, you know,

1078
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,600
goes when the body dies, right and dreams. He his

1079
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,800
dreams are a proof of this that we continue to

1080
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:14,479
live on in a noetic sense. So that's just one example, right.

1081
01:24:17,079 --> 01:24:19,560
So do we know all the mechanics of all this?

1082
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 8: No?

1083
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't claim to know this. I don't think anybody does.

1084
01:24:23,359 --> 01:24:26,880
We have theologians and elders and philosophers and saints who

1085
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,520
have talked a lot about it, and so we can

1086
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,840
really kind of only give a rough kind of sketch

1087
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:40,159
or outline of how the inner world interacts with these

1088
01:24:40,279 --> 01:24:46,720
higher realms and so forth. But I really appreciate what

1089
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,920
Loski says here and listen to what he says, which

1090
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,520
makes my point. One should avoid the categories of time

1091
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:00,920
when we evoke eternity. If the Bible uses these theseategories, nonetheless,

1092
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,840
it is rather to emphasize, by means of a rich symbolism,

1093
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,920
the positive attitude towards time, positivity of time where the

1094
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:15,479
encounters of God and human beings mature. It's ontological autonomy

1095
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,319
as an adventure of human freedom and its possibility of transfiguration.

1096
01:25:19,399 --> 01:25:21,319
He's just saying that time is not evil for us.

1097
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:28,399
It's a temporary, you could say, place of testing, the

1098
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:33,640
temporal realm, this world. The fathers of the Church sens

1099
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,920
this very well, and they were very careful not to

1100
01:25:36,039 --> 01:25:42,960
define eternity as an opposition to time. If the categories

1101
01:25:43,039 --> 01:25:48,000
of time are movement, change, and passage from one state

1102
01:25:48,079 --> 01:25:54,239
into another, you cannot contrast these word for word with immobility, immutability,

1103
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:58,800
invariability of some static eternity. Okay, this is one of

1104
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:04,239
the errors of Origin and Platonism. Origin literally thought that

1105
01:26:04,399 --> 01:26:07,880
the fall was movement away from stasis into change and

1106
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,119
then down into this reality. That's not what the fall is.

1107
01:26:12,119 --> 01:26:14,960
Laski says, this would be the eternity of the intelligible

1108
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,159
world of Plato, not that of the living God. If

1109
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:21,560
God lives in eternity, this living eternity must be must

1110
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:26,279
surpass the opposition of the mobile mobility of time and

1111
01:26:26,359 --> 01:26:30,319
the immobility of eternity. Maximus emphasizes that the eternity of

1112
01:26:30,359 --> 01:26:36,239
the intelligible world, the noetic realm, is a created eternity. Propositions,

1113
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,479
universal truths, the immutable structure of the cosmos, the geometry

1114
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:46,800
of ideas that govern creation. The networks of mathematical essences

1115
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:53,000
are the aon or the aonic eternity that began as time,

1116
01:26:54,039 --> 01:26:57,319
hence its name, for it takes its name from the

1117
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:02,000
beginning the age in aon by passing from non being

1118
01:27:02,079 --> 01:27:07,680
into being, but that remains without change, submitted to a

1119
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:14,920
non temporal existence. This aonic eternity is stable, immutable. It

1120
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:19,079
is the one that gives coherence to the intelligible world

1121
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:26,479
and to the intelligibility of this world, sensory and intelligible.

1122
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:32,199
Time and the aon cling one to another, for since

1123
01:27:32,279 --> 01:27:36,760
both have a beginning, they are commensurable. The aon is

1124
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:43,840
immobile time Time is the moving aon that's direct from Maximus.

1125
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:50,359
They're only and only their coexistence and their interpenetration can

1126
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:57,640
make time thinkable. The aon is in a narrow sense,

1127
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,239
in connection with the angelic orl This is everything I've

1128
01:28:01,239 --> 01:28:05,119
been telling you. Angels and human beings both partake of

1129
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,399
time and the aon, but in a different manner. While

1130
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,760
human beings conditions is by the human being condition, the

1131
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,920
human condition is temporal, but in a time rendered intelligible

1132
01:28:17,119 --> 01:28:20,079
by the aon. The angels knew the free choice of

1133
01:28:20,199 --> 01:28:22,840
time only at the moment of their creation, when they

1134
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:27,359
were tested, and they had a type of instantaneous temporality

1135
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,960
from which they left when they fell for an aon

1136
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:36,079
of praise and service to God, or else revolt and

1137
01:28:36,199 --> 01:28:42,560
hatred and fault. However, a process exists in the aon,

1138
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:48,640
for the angelic nature cannot ceaselessly increase and in acquiring

1139
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:54,000
eternal benefits, but without temporal succession. In other words, angels

1140
01:28:54,119 --> 01:28:57,119
can learn new things, they can increase in grace, but

1141
01:28:57,239 --> 01:28:59,640
it is not through a temporal succession. It is a

1142
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,960
differentferent type of movement and change. Thus, angels appear as

1143
01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:09,760
intelligible universes that take part in the organizing function of

1144
01:29:10,039 --> 01:29:16,720
the aonic eternity. Yes, thank you. As for God's eternity,

1145
01:29:17,159 --> 01:29:21,039
the divine eternity, it cannot be defined either by the

1146
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:25,640
change proper to time or by the immutability proper to

1147
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:30,640
the aon. God's eternity as an energy transcends both. He

1148
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,359
is arguing, he doesn't say it's an energy, but it is.

1149
01:29:34,039 --> 01:29:37,399
All the predicates of God are energies. When we speak

1150
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:43,359
of what God has right, I'm not saying the persons

1151
01:29:43,399 --> 01:29:45,159
are energies. I'm just saying that when we speak of

1152
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:50,319
God's attributes, powers, actions predicates there they're in that sense

1153
01:29:50,319 --> 01:29:53,640
their energies. The love of God, the foreknoledge of God,

1154
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,800
the being of God, the simplicity of God, the unity

1155
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,720
of God are all energies. That's basic palmos the necessary

1156
01:30:00,079 --> 01:30:04,840
course to apifasis. Apathetic theology forbids us from thinking that

1157
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:10,520
the living God is subject to forgive excuse me, forbids

1158
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,359
us from thinking of the living God according to the

1159
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,680
eternity of the mathematical laws. So you see, there is

1160
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,159
a higher realm. It is the location, you could say,

1161
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:25,039
of the mathematical laws, the higher principles, the geometric forms.

1162
01:30:26,359 --> 01:30:30,920
What does he list, the angelic noetic powers, propositional truths,

1163
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:36,920
these kinds of things, geome geometry ideas. That is still

1164
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a created reality. This is why Saint Maximus says that

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01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:51,279
universals are created. Platonism says universals are the one. Thus,

1166
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:56,000
Orthodox theology does not allow or know of any uncreated

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intelligible right, because God transcends those things. Otherwise, corporeality, which

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01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:11,720
is created, would appear as a relative evil right. Bodily

1169
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,279
existence would be contrasted, like in Platonism, to the eternal,

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and we don't say that bodily existence is not bad,

1171
01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:30,039
time is not bad. The uncreated therefore surpasses any diadic opposition,

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namely those of the intelligible and of the sensory, and

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01:31:35,079 --> 01:31:37,920
of the temporal and of the eternal, And the problem

1174
01:31:38,039 --> 01:31:41,520
of time leads us back to nothingness, from which the

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01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,680
divine will raises us to make an other than God

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us enter into eternity, that is, through deification. Now that

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01:31:52,039 --> 01:31:55,159
chapter goes on to talk about the angelic spheres and

1178
01:31:55,279 --> 01:31:58,680
the aon. I'm not gonna read all that, but very

1179
01:31:59,399 --> 01:32:02,960
excellent ch after just summarizing the basic Orthodox conceptions from

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01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:07,000
Saint Maximus John Damascus Palomas right on what creation is

1181
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:12,159
in Genesis one in Orthodox theology. All right, so let's

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get back to this where we at. By the way,

1183
01:32:15,039 --> 01:32:16,800
welcome everybody. We've got three hundred people. I'll read a

1184
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,840
couple of super chats while we are taking a break

1185
01:32:21,039 --> 01:32:29,199
from that heavy, heavy discourse. There By the way, in

1186
01:32:29,279 --> 01:32:33,840
case you're wondering the logi, the logie in the divine

1187
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:39,640
mind are the patterns and principles and archetypes and bases,

1188
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,880
not just for the created things in this realm, but

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for the aon as well, right, So for anything that

1190
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:54,479
exists in the aon an angel, there's an uncreated logi

1191
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,079
in the mind of God. That is the pattern for that.

1192
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,840
So don't make the mistake of thinking that the logie

1193
01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:04,039
are the essences of creatures. They're not. The essences of

1194
01:33:04,079 --> 01:33:08,800
creatures are in the creatures. But every creature, every one,

1195
01:33:09,039 --> 01:33:12,800
every many, every particular, every universal is patterned on its

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unique logi. The mini logi are one in the logos,

1197
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and the mini logos are one or the one logos

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is many in his logi, right, and they are really

1199
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distinct from one another, or else there would not be

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real distinctions in the world. There are an infinity of logi,

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01:33:28,319 --> 01:33:30,960
and Maximus says that they are one and they are many.

1202
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:38,399
That's basic Palomas and every modern Orthodox Polemnite theologian says

1203
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:43,039
that now that we are back to the movie, well,

1204
01:33:43,319 --> 01:33:47,840
I was gonna do the Superjeses Melissa de Courci twenty dollars,

1205
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,600
and that was the last stream that we did. Chic

1206
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,439
threw one and at the end of the show and

1207
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:58,680
I missed it. Thank you, Melissa, much appreciate it, I said,

1208
01:33:59,279 --> 01:34:05,520
be by eight eighty eight. Happy New Year, Happy new

1209
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:09,920
year to you, I said. By Efraim ten dollars. It's

1210
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,880
a bunch of eyes. Afriam says, thank you for your

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01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:17,039
hard work this year. Thank you, Efraim, much appreciated. Thank

1212
01:34:17,079 --> 01:34:20,119
you for your heart. Janie Sophia twenty five dollars. Merry Christmas,

1213
01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:22,319
Happy New Years to you and Jamie. Thank you for

1214
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:26,199
another full year of great content. Well we hope so

1215
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,760
Lord willing, we will continue to do this and uh,

1216
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,359
you know, hopefully we can hit seventy and then seventy

1217
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:37,680
five thousand pretty soon. Thank you, Jennie Sophia much appreciated.

1218
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That was a nice fat super chat Warhammer Dwarfs right.

1219
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:48,359
Gimli himself has tweeted us, and he says, vibrations the

1220
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:53,600
chasa oui and five cents reala a vibration of five

1221
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:59,680
cents reality. Yes, exactly, you had in my mind that

1222
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:06,199
and David, like Jeannette Niche twenty five dollars, you didn't

1223
01:35:06,199 --> 01:35:09,880
say anything. She is doing the non being empty tweet,

1224
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,439
the empty super chat, empty man chat of just a

1225
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,560
And that's what she says. And I say yes, I

1226
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:24,439
say yes to your none. Yes, Countess powers for ten dollars,

1227
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,479
she says, keep on doing what you're doing. It is

1228
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:34,960
always a pleasure. Amen, thank you, we will Schwan Javez

1229
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:39,359
twenty dollars. You guys are being super generous. Thank you

1230
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,079
so much. Big ups to Jay for all the great

1231
01:35:42,119 --> 01:35:43,960
content this year. Yes, we did have a great year,

1232
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:49,399
didn't we? A lot of cool content twenty twenty. Should

1233
01:35:49,399 --> 01:35:50,279
we reflect on the year?

1234
01:35:50,319 --> 01:35:51,279
Speaker 8: What was? You know?

1235
01:35:51,399 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty was a weird, bittersweet year, wasn't it. I mean,

1236
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,319
we saw a lot of growth to the channel, to

1237
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,239
the membership, We saw a lot of growth in the cryptosphere.

1238
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,640
I mean a lot of good things this year, as

1239
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:08,680
well as a lot of just nonsense craziness with KRUNKA

1240
01:36:10,039 --> 01:36:14,279
so good and bad. I hope everybody didn't have a

1241
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:19,079
totally terrible twenty twenty. I know for a lot of

1242
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:22,760
people it was difficult, especially people who kind of worked

1243
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,359
like the the nine to fives that people have, the

1244
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,079
you know, real world businesses, right, not Internet businesses like

1245
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:33,000
I think it was probably hard for those people. Sympathize

1246
01:36:33,159 --> 01:36:37,439
with you guys, definitely. I hope I pray that this

1247
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,880
nonsense gets better. I don't know if we're gonna see

1248
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,119
a lot of end to the nonsense anytime soon. But

1249
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,640
if you had an online business, you know then it

1250
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,880
probably twenty twenty probably ironically was a good year for you.

1251
01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:56,239
So much love to all you guys. You guys keep

1252
01:36:56,319 --> 01:37:01,000
us in business. And yeah, let's just hope. I don't know,

1253
01:37:01,079 --> 01:37:04,399
let's just pray. Lord help us twenty twenty one, Please

1254
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:12,399
please help us. There's nonsense to go away. B Main,

1255
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:19,199
b bamang b Mag fifty dollars. Wow, man, you guys

1256
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:23,000
are showing a lot of love. Much appreciated. B maang

1257
01:37:23,039 --> 01:37:24,720
for fifty bucks is thank you for all your work. Jay,

1258
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,479
thank you b MAG fifty bucks. I mean that makes

1259
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,680
this whole stream worth it. Now everybody is super chats

1260
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,880
make it worth it. But that's a fat one dude. Wow,

1261
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:40,880
I'm very honored, Real Cooter Brown nine, this has been

1262
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,600
a fascinating lecture. Happy New Year to you and Jamie.

1263
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,159
Thank you. We have been going for what a little

1264
01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:48,800
over an hour. We need to wrap it up pretty quick.

1265
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,119
I'm going to finish the movie and then we'll get

1266
01:37:50,159 --> 01:37:54,199
into the book the first couple chapters. But thank you

1267
01:37:54,279 --> 01:37:56,039
for that. Real Cooter Brown Shout out to you, Shout

1268
01:37:56,079 --> 01:37:58,960
out to Big mag for that fat super chat. Much

1269
01:37:59,039 --> 01:38:04,439
love the tallic tearing. Three dollars, Happy New Year's Why

1270
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,079
does Klaus Schwab dress like a Mortal Kombat character? A

1271
01:38:07,399 --> 01:38:13,279
pro because he sees himself as a Mortal Kombat finish

1272
01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:18,520
him because he sees himself as That's why he's engaged

1273
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:26,439
in mortal social engineering combat de no debo, dino debo.

1274
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:30,359
Ten dollars. Thank you for your Christian content. Jesus is

1275
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:32,720
the Truth. Yes, yes, I'm the Way, the Truth and

1276
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,960
the life. No man comes to God but through me

1277
01:38:35,079 --> 01:38:42,079
John fourteen six, Absolutely welcome. We got two d We

1278
01:38:42,159 --> 01:38:44,279
had three hundred nurds tonight. That's pretty good. I know

1279
01:38:44,319 --> 01:38:46,159
a lot of people could be doing other stuff tonight.

1280
01:38:47,039 --> 01:38:49,960
That's cool. But let's finish up with empty Man and

1281
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,399
then we'll get to the book. So basically, after the

1282
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:59,439
cult compound scene, the cult begins to chase him and

1283
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,119
we start to figure out by the way that he

1284
01:39:01,359 --> 01:39:04,800
found a file like a file cabinet, and he realized

1285
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,680
that the cult Shocker knows about him and has for

1286
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:11,239
a long time. In fact, they know everything about him,

1287
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,159
and it's almost perhaps like they have been leading this

1288
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:22,359
dude right along the golden cult path. Now, this is

1289
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,439
reminiscent of you know, eyes wide shut. You know, we've

1290
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,159
seen this in many of these kinds of movies. The

1291
01:39:27,279 --> 01:39:29,960
magas right, the cult knew all along, and they have

1292
01:39:30,199 --> 01:39:32,720
you know, engineered your life to bring you to this point,

1293
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,640
to initiate you. And that is where the movie thinks.

1294
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,279
It's that's we think, that's where the movie's taking us.

1295
01:39:40,399 --> 01:39:43,079
Right at this point, we think, oh, he was the

1296
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:48,479
chosen boy of the cult the whole time, and yes,

1297
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:55,600
that's kind of true. However, turns out we have been duped.

1298
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,960
We have been sham Lama ding dong, We've been shamaland

1299
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:06,920
how do we get Shyamaland this dude is not just

1300
01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:14,439
a mind control cult creation. This dude is a metaphysical creation.

1301
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:21,239
He is the tupa, He's the dougie exactly exactly turns out,

1302
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:27,239
after this cult compound sequence, he goes back to find

1303
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:31,159
the teenage dude that was in the cult kidnaps. The

1304
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:34,039
guy takes him outside the city, bops him in the

1305
01:40:34,079 --> 01:40:37,359
face a good couple wops, and says, what is going on?

1306
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:41,319
Tell me right now or I'm gonna bop your face

1307
01:40:41,399 --> 01:40:47,000
some more. This maniacal teenage dude is like, he's in

1308
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,439
your head. It's all coming true. He's got you. He

1309
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,479
is the one who will bring total and destruction. He

1310
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,319
will bring the end of all things. He will, you know,

1311
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:01,399
It's like he does all this doomsday type stuff, Antichrist

1312
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,920
level stuff. Right, this is the figure who's coming from

1313
01:41:05,039 --> 01:41:09,239
the beyond. He will destroy all and he will inhabit you.

1314
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 8: Right.

1315
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,520
Speaker 1: He says, you are the tulpa that the cult created,

1316
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:20,239
the thought form to inhabit the body, for the entity

1317
01:41:20,359 --> 01:41:25,319
to inhabit. Who is the entity? He is the evil one.

1318
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:31,720
He is the angel of death, the bringer of non existence, destruction,

1319
01:41:32,119 --> 01:41:36,000
non being. I mean, I don't think the movie is

1320
01:41:36,119 --> 01:41:39,399
intentionally telling us that it's about the Antichrist. I think

1321
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:43,479
the movie is unintentionally telling us basically this is a

1322
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:49,000
kind of like accult version story of an Antichrist mythos

1323
01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:53,399
that this poor dude right doesn't know that he's not

1324
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,880
even a real dude. And now we learn why. The

1325
01:41:58,039 --> 01:42:02,520
first sequence with him was his birthday. That was his

1326
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,119
creation day. He was created that day by the cult

1327
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:12,159
who through seance and meditation manifested this dude into being,

1328
01:42:12,319 --> 01:42:14,119
and so he's just a collection of a bunch of

1329
01:42:14,199 --> 01:42:20,039
people's ideas. This is the basis. This makes sense in

1330
01:42:20,199 --> 01:42:24,600
that far Eastern worldview where you manifest what's real through

1331
01:42:25,399 --> 01:42:30,600
right out of non being into being through intentional concentration.

1332
01:42:32,399 --> 01:42:34,119
And she's had some weird line that you know, the

1333
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:39,359
bowl cut girl, where she says flesh is thought plus

1334
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,720
time plus intentional concentration or some nonsense like this. Right,

1335
01:42:44,279 --> 01:42:47,640
So we find out that remember when the cult was

1336
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:52,479
doing the seance and they summoned somebody and the guy

1337
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:56,800
was watching from the background, it was him. He was

1338
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:03,760
the one they summoned, you see. So our main dude, unfortunately,

1339
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:08,279
is the tulpa. It is also, I think, perhaps an

1340
01:43:08,319 --> 01:43:12,680
analogy for mind control. So these cults that we think

1341
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:18,520
are oh they're just meditation, Oh they're just you know, love,

1342
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,960
And once again no, we find out that at the

1343
01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:28,000
heart of the hippie dream is a dark presence, a

1344
01:43:28,119 --> 01:43:34,000
demonic presence, the same demonic entity at the heart of

1345
01:43:34,359 --> 01:43:39,560
these far Eastern religions that are intent on self destruction. Yes,

1346
01:43:40,279 --> 01:43:42,560
who is that entity? Who is that being? Well, I

1347
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,720
wonder it just happens to be always associated with death,

1348
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:54,880
invoking death, destruction, chaos, the serpent spirit. I wonder who

1349
01:43:55,000 --> 01:44:02,239
that is? Who might the serpent spirit be? I wonder? Oh,

1350
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:12,039
it's anything but Satan, right, believe anything but what the

1351
01:44:12,119 --> 01:44:14,920
Bible says. You see, that's how it's that's how it's spun.

1352
01:44:15,239 --> 01:44:15,359
Speaker 8: Right.

1353
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,239
Speaker 1: Oh, we want Antichrist, we want in times, we want

1354
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,560
Babylon working. Just don't give me Jesus right, give me

1355
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,920
all that evil stuff. Yeah, but wait a minute, I

1356
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:27,159
thought there is no satan. Oh, but it just happens

1357
01:44:27,199 --> 01:44:30,920
to be an angel of non being and death. Who

1358
01:44:31,159 --> 01:44:34,000
is in Leary's book the serpent Force? I mean, dude,

1359
01:44:34,039 --> 01:44:36,720
come on, how is this not as do you even

1360
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,600
need that much discernment to tell? Like all these ancient

1361
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:46,960
religions worship a snake. There's this funny section in the

1362
01:44:47,039 --> 01:44:49,960
Leary book too, where he says, when the process of

1363
01:44:50,039 --> 01:44:53,560
initiation begins and you begin to have a fever and

1364
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:59,079
vomit and feel like you're melting and dying, just go

1365
01:44:59,239 --> 01:45:02,399
with it and enjoy He says, you're going to feel

1366
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:10,520
like you're experiencing hell and schizophrenia. Just enjoy it. He says, Okay,

1367
01:45:13,079 --> 01:45:16,880
so there is I think an analogy here for mind control,

1368
01:45:17,239 --> 01:45:21,279
for how cults have perfected the science of mind control

1369
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,760
in k ultra. We all know, we've done countless streams

1370
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,239
on that. I'm not going to rehearse all that, but

1371
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,800
as you know, yes, with l Ron Hubbard you have

1372
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,920
the direct connection to Crowley studied with oto stuff for many,

1373
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,960
many years. Then scientology, right, So that's again the rough

1374
01:45:38,039 --> 01:45:40,960
outline of what we're talking about here. You find all

1375
01:45:41,079 --> 01:45:46,479
the same exo theology in the other stupid cults, Heaven's Gate,

1376
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,079
this kind of stuff. It's not by accident that they

1377
01:45:49,119 --> 01:45:56,600
all come up with the same exo theology gibberish. So,

1378
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:01,399
as our guy has his full revel that he is

1379
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:05,119
the unfortunate creation of the cult, he is their tulpa.

1380
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,680
The girl explains, well, I'm sorry, dude, but we had

1381
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:14,119
to create a body for him, for our demon overlord,

1382
01:46:14,239 --> 01:46:18,279
because he's too much for the human bodies that he inhabits.

1383
01:46:18,319 --> 01:46:22,239
So it's literal possession. And they say that he just

1384
01:46:22,359 --> 01:46:25,760
kind of like destroys the humans that he inhabits, you know,

1385
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,199
within a few years. And so rather than our demon

1386
01:46:29,319 --> 01:46:32,319
lord having to wait another hundred years to find a

1387
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:36,319
suitable body to possess of a human We have just

1388
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:38,880
created a tulpa for him to inhabit, and that is you,

1389
01:46:39,079 --> 01:46:42,960
by the way, so sucks to be that dude. Sucks

1390
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:43,560
to be dougy.

1391
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 8: Right.

1392
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:50,079
Speaker 1: Then we see as he figures all this out the

1393
01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:54,960
moment of self revelation, the dark one, the entity, the

1394
01:46:55,159 --> 01:47:02,199
non being, steps through the portal, presents himself as basically

1395
01:47:02,359 --> 01:47:05,680
a big garbage bag of vomit, vomits out of the

1396
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:11,840
garbage bag into the dude, and the dude sucks up

1397
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:17,039
the entire garbage, juice, smoothie, all of it, and his

1398
01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:24,359
eyes go black. Typical. He's possessed the entity. The empty

1399
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:28,720
man now fills that dude, because that dude is the

1400
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:33,079
empty man, you see. And in a way, you could

1401
01:47:33,079 --> 01:47:35,680
see this as kind of like the analogy for what

1402
01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:39,239
Satan does want to accomplish. Right, It's not that he

1403
01:47:39,399 --> 01:47:42,079
just wants to have an Antichrist figure at the end

1404
01:47:42,079 --> 01:47:45,760
of the world to inhabit and possess. It's that Satan

1405
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:50,000
wants to destroy man and for man to become an

1406
01:47:50,039 --> 01:47:54,239
empty vessel for the power and spirit of Satan to possess.

1407
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 8: Right.

1408
01:47:56,199 --> 01:48:00,399
Speaker 1: Paul says that those who don't believe the gospel, the

1409
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:04,039
God of this world has blinded their minds, he says.

1410
01:48:05,279 --> 01:48:07,920
He says that Satan can appear as an angel of

1411
01:48:08,119 --> 01:48:14,239
light to deceive people. That is the light, the dark light,

1412
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:18,279
the black light, the black sun. That is Satan, that

1413
01:48:18,399 --> 01:48:25,199
is Lucifer. That's who fools these people, especially the Guru

1414
01:48:25,319 --> 01:48:29,439
people and the people who have the hallucinogenic trips that

1415
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,000
go into the darkness to avoid the abyss, and they

1416
01:48:32,079 --> 01:48:35,560
see the light in the abyss. That's not God. Now,

1417
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,039
God could come to you and save you out of

1418
01:48:38,119 --> 01:48:44,399
those experiences, but he also may not save it. You

1419
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:51,560
may literally be opening yourself up to evil entities who

1420
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:58,000
then begin to oppress you, is what I'm saying. I'm

1421
01:48:58,039 --> 01:49:00,680
not saying that everybody who's done LSD is possessed by

1422
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:04,000
saying okay, but you are opening the doorway to your

1423
01:49:04,079 --> 01:49:06,800
psyche to be possessed, is what I'm trying to say.

1424
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:11,399
You are becoming an empty man and opening that gayway.

1425
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:20,399
And that's particularly why we don't advocate for people recreationally

1426
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,199
doing these things. You see, that's my view on this.

1427
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,600
I do not advocate that you ever do these things,

1428
01:49:27,079 --> 01:49:32,319
and especially not recreationally. Now, could there be a case

1429
01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:34,880
where I don't know, like a dude has ruined his life.

1430
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,279
Let's say as an alcoholic. Let's say somebody is like

1431
01:49:38,399 --> 01:49:41,439
totally just they're on their deathbed. Could there be a

1432
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:45,960
situation where the administration of ecstasy could help them perhaps,

1433
01:49:46,119 --> 01:49:49,439
I mean maybe might as well, Okay, but I mean

1434
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,279
outside of these like extreme cases. No, I do not

1435
01:49:52,399 --> 01:49:55,479
think people should do hallucinogens at all. I think they're

1436
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,720
totally dangerous. I think they are not the path to

1437
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:03,840
enlightenment at all. Uh. And they again open you up

1438
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,720
too staring into the abyss and something stepping in. And

1439
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:12,520
by the way, you can still be deluded without being possessed, right,

1440
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,319
you might not even realize that when you have the

1441
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,520
solved the world moment at the beginning of the trip,

1442
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:23,600
that could be a demonic influence, you see, because you think, oh, bro,

1443
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:28,600
I'm so enlightened out, I understand the world, right. And

1444
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:32,119
this is usually the pride and the arrogance of everybody

1445
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:34,279
who has the acid trip thinks that they've solved the world.

1446
01:50:35,119 --> 01:50:37,640
And all you're doing, all you're doing is repeating, rehashing

1447
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,600
ancient monism and Hinduism, right, you're not saying anything new, dummy,

1448
01:50:43,079 --> 01:50:45,560
But every freaking pagan religion is said for a millennium,

1449
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:50,159
and you think, oh, solve the world, dude, the go

1450
01:50:50,359 --> 01:50:52,640
talk to any of these people. They're all the exact same,

1451
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,199
right to go, all the dead heads, they're all the

1452
01:50:55,279 --> 01:50:57,359
exact same. They all think this, They think that they're

1453
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,920
have achieved this like supreme level of enlightenment, and they

1454
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,479
all they aren't even too stupid to even know they're

1455
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:08,640
rehashing ancient animism and paganism. But I mean, just read

1456
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:13,119
Terrence McKenna. Even he says it's just rehashing ancient paganism.

1457
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,399
You don't saying anything new. Shut up, you're an idiot,

1458
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:23,960
shut your shut your mouth anyway. But we covered all

1459
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:29,520
that in the talk with Kotel last time. Maybe I'll

1460
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:33,319
try to remember to link that anyway. So that basically

1461
01:51:33,359 --> 01:51:37,079
that's the end of the movie. Unfortunately, our protagonist doesn't

1462
01:51:37,079 --> 01:51:39,399
get out of this dilemma. We see a bunch of

1463
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,960
sequences that show how he was kind of dreamt up

1464
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:51,560
and created as a piecemeal of different people in different memories. Yeah,

1465
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,920
that's all my notes. And then especially in these final sequences,

1466
01:51:55,039 --> 01:51:57,600
we see quite a few homages to David Lynch. We

1467
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:01,479
see the record spinning stuck in this endless cycle lost.

1468
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:05,439
We see Lost Highway, imagery of driving down the dark road.

1469
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,439
We see the right the blurring, you know, kind of

1470
01:52:09,119 --> 01:52:10,960
a distortion.

1471
01:52:11,399 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 8: Uh.

1472
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 1: We see I think we even see fans spinning. I

1473
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,359
don't remember, but a lot of lynching in imagery here,

1474
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,880
the mo the this is based on a comic book.

1475
01:52:19,079 --> 01:52:21,239
The cover of the comic book literally has like the

1476
01:52:21,319 --> 01:52:25,319
Twin Peaks mountains flipped upside down. So Tulpa's I mean,

1477
01:52:25,359 --> 01:52:28,079
it's all very very lynchient. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised.

1478
01:52:29,079 --> 01:52:31,600
I mean he's not credited, but it wouldn't surprise me

1479
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,560
if David Lynch didn't have some kind of maybe consultation

1480
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,000
or production role that he didn't want credited. I don't know,

1481
01:52:38,199 --> 01:52:43,600
but if not, it still is very very lynching. Is

1482
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,760
it a great movie. I wouldn't say it's a great movie.

1483
01:52:46,279 --> 01:52:50,239
It's it's entertaining, it's fun, it's creepy in certain ways,

1484
01:52:51,079 --> 01:52:53,319
and you know, like Twin Peaks or Lost Highway, it

1485
01:52:53,399 --> 01:52:56,399
has insights into some of the you know, darker side

1486
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,760
of the spiritual realm. So in that regard, I would

1487
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:05,239
say it's worth watching a couple more super Barry Lurd,

1488
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:11,479
have you heard you years and years ago on our

1489
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,960
Big Dumb Mouth. It's good guys, remember that OBDM podcast

1490
01:53:16,079 --> 01:53:18,560
years ago. And by the way, we were talking about

1491
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:23,520
hallucinogens on OBDM three or four years ago. Yep, he says,

1492
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:27,399
I followed you since you always produce or link to

1493
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,920
the most edifying content. Well, thank you very much, Barry Lard,

1494
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:33,680
and I do think I remember your handle in the

1495
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:38,000
past with various superchets. Much appreciate what's up. General Nao,

1496
01:53:38,359 --> 01:53:41,079
a long time follower supporter as well. For thirteen dollars,

1497
01:53:41,119 --> 01:53:45,640
she says, have you heard the theory of the thirteenth

1498
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:50,159
tribe that it was the tribe of Dan and they

1499
01:53:50,399 --> 01:53:52,920
migrated north and became Vikings. Yeah, I've heard a lot

1500
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,039
of these series. I mean, I've heard of the Lost Tribes,

1501
01:53:56,119 --> 01:54:01,159
and I've heard the the thirteenth tribe as the Scottish people,

1502
01:54:01,279 --> 01:54:03,600
and there's all these kinds of theories. I don't know.

1503
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,000
Probably something is true, but I don't know.

1504
01:54:07,119 --> 01:54:08,039
Speaker 4: But yes, I have heard that.

1505
01:54:09,319 --> 01:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Who knows autistic, But perhaps that's I mean, there could

1506
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,560
be something related to the Red Hair and the red Beard, right.

1507
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,760
I mean, you know we're told that David was ready

1508
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:28,239
of appearance, right, red Hair, I don't know autistic spectrum more.

1509
01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:30,800
You're ten dollars. Thank you for your work, thank you,

1510
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,319
thank you. By the way, I think you DMed me

1511
01:54:34,399 --> 01:54:36,479
and I forgot to reply. But so by the way

1512
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:40,119
people DM me and message me. I'm not like saying

1513
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:42,880
I'm the biggest celeb or anything like that. I'm probably

1514
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:48,039
the coolest, definitely the hottest. I mean in terms of

1515
01:54:48,079 --> 01:54:51,199
the celebs, I am at least a diva, like a

1516
01:54:51,359 --> 01:54:54,720
B plus level diva, and even if you're a C

1517
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,279
level diva, you get a lot of messages. Okay, I'm

1518
01:54:58,359 --> 01:55:02,239
just trying to say, like, I'm really popular right now,

1519
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:05,640
so I get a lot of tweets and dms in it,

1520
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,319
so I can't keep up with everybody's dams.

1521
01:55:09,239 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 12: It's just.

1522
01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: This is one of the things that an e celeb

1523
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,720
suffers through, and I think a lot of the lesser

1524
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,439
people don't understand that that's just a joke. But I'm

1525
01:55:20,439 --> 01:55:24,960
just you know, we're still very butt hurt about the

1526
01:55:25,039 --> 01:55:26,159
fact that little.

1527
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:30,399
Speaker 13: Aids has a blue check a right, he has existence

1528
01:55:31,039 --> 01:55:34,159
I just hit twenty thousand on Twitter, and I don't

1529
01:55:34,199 --> 01:55:36,640
have a blue check, so I don't really exist.

1530
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like empty man. I'm like halfway right,

1531
01:55:39,039 --> 01:55:43,319
but I'm halfway from the bridge of empty man to existence.

1532
01:55:44,279 --> 01:55:48,039
So I'm half empty man. The glass is half empty man.

1533
01:55:48,439 --> 01:55:50,159
All right. So briefly we'll get into the first couple

1534
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:51,840
of chapters, and if you want to see the full

1535
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:55,960
analysis of this wild and crazy book, you will have

1536
01:55:56,039 --> 01:55:58,760
to subscribe to Jay's analysis. The link is in the

1537
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,399
description of the show, and it will be out not today.

1538
01:56:03,279 --> 01:56:05,640
Takes me a few days to do this, It'll be

1539
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:08,039
the next few days before part two is up to

1540
01:56:08,279 --> 01:56:13,319
the subscribers. So this begins with what you could imagine

1541
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:17,439
from again, I'm not knocking Daniel Pinchback on a personal level.

1542
01:56:17,479 --> 01:56:19,920
I don't know this guy. Obviously, I have a radically

1543
01:56:20,199 --> 01:56:22,159
world view from this person. But he does have a

1544
01:56:22,239 --> 01:56:26,800
couple of insights in the introduction that he says, for example,

1545
01:56:27,039 --> 01:56:33,039
the sixties countercultural revolution has radically transformed society exactly. He

1546
01:56:33,239 --> 01:56:36,800
is perceptive enough to note that he mentioned some of

1547
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:43,079
the bizarre characters like rom Dos that we covered with Kotel.

1548
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:46,600
He says we got to look to key figures like

1549
01:56:47,079 --> 01:56:51,880
Alda Suxley, Ken Kesey, Ram Doss. These guys again, many

1550
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,960
of them connected to Escellent Institute, which we know was

1551
01:56:55,039 --> 01:56:58,479
an elite funded thing. He says, the sixties, if you

1552
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:02,399
really want to understand it, he says, it's a return

1553
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:03,359
of shamanism.

1554
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 8: Right.

1555
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: We want to have an archaic revival, a primeval revival,

1556
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:15,000
the primal revival, primalism. Somehow, for some reason, we're supposed

1557
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:24,880
to think that shamanism was better than modern world. Now,

1558
01:57:25,159 --> 01:57:28,039
maybe that's the case. I don't think it's the case,

1559
01:57:28,399 --> 01:57:32,680
but why right? So, in other words, a lot of

1560
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:37,279
times the way dialectics works, or the way people are

1561
01:57:37,359 --> 01:57:40,800
convinced by false dialectics, is that they think, well, the

1562
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,960
present system has this, this, this, this wrong with it, right,

1563
01:57:45,039 --> 01:57:46,039
which is probably true.

1564
01:57:46,239 --> 01:57:46,359
Speaker 8: Right.

1565
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:49,199
Speaker 1: So, because a lot of the critiques that, for example,

1566
01:57:49,319 --> 01:57:53,840
the sixties counterculture people made, some of the well, I

1567
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,760
don't want to say a lot, but many of those critiques,

1568
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:59,159
you could say, we're valid critiques. Are we too materialistic?

1569
01:57:59,359 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 8: Yes?

1570
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,199
Speaker 1: Are we too focused on the here and the now

1571
01:58:03,479 --> 01:58:08,159
and attachment to pleasures? Yeah? Sure, okay, And then what

1572
01:58:08,319 --> 01:58:13,880
happens is that they give you a false solution. Right,

1573
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,119
So if that's the case, then they'll then they'll say,

1574
01:58:16,239 --> 01:58:18,560
here's the bait and switch. Oh you see, so now

1575
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:22,000
you must return to ancient paganism and shawmanism. Right, Oh,

1576
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:26,119
West bad for Eastern religion's good? You see the bait

1577
01:58:26,199 --> 01:58:29,560
and switch. But it doesn't follow from that, right, it's

1578
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:33,960
a non sequitor to say, well, if this was bad,

1579
01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:37,159
then it's opposite, must therefore be good again. Basic dialectics.

1580
01:58:37,239 --> 01:58:42,760
You could have two wrong positions. You ever thought about that, like,

1581
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:44,119
maybe both of these are wrong?

1582
01:58:44,439 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 8: Right?

1583
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 1: Think about geopolitics, right, everybody always wants to say simple people,

1584
01:58:50,079 --> 01:58:53,239
simple minded people want geopolitics to be boiled down to

1585
01:58:53,279 --> 01:58:56,039
a good guy bad guy. Have you ever thought about

1586
01:58:56,039 --> 01:58:59,239
the fact that maybe it's two bad guys? Hello? You

1587
01:58:59,279 --> 01:59:01,760
ever watched them off the movie? So we have it.

1588
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:04,920
We have to get beyond you know, these this simplistic

1589
01:59:05,159 --> 01:59:08,520
kind of ignorant thinking, and that's very difficult, you know,

1590
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:13,720
when we're dealing with sort of the the New Ages counterculture,

1591
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:20,279
you know, wook, the woke wook, because they typically are

1592
01:59:20,319 --> 01:59:25,000
pretty simplistic and they're thinking, uh, now, one thing he

1593
01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:29,279
says that that is true. Is that the dominance of

1594
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:35,359
scientism and the scientific method and empiricism is empty. Yes, exactly,

1595
01:59:36,359 --> 01:59:38,319
But that doesn't mean that I'm going to jump back

1596
01:59:38,359 --> 01:59:44,159
into rolling around in dung paganism. Right, That's not the solution.

1597
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:49,600
The fact that Neil de grass Tyson is goofy is

1598
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:52,800
not going to propel me to rolling around in dung

1599
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:57,119
in India. Okay, that's not the solution. Right, It's not

1600
01:59:57,279 --> 01:59:59,520
Neil de grass Tyson or pooh. Right, that's not your

1601
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:06,600
two options false dialectic. And I noted in my analysis

1602
02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:09,680
of Pinchbeck here have you ever considered that maybe both

1603
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:13,760
of these options are problematic? And so then he launches

1604
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:20,920
into let's talk about ancient Mayan civilization, into that really ancient. Look,

1605
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:25,560
why is ancient Mayan civilization somehow higher on this totem

1606
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:30,199
pull of spirituality. I mean, they sacrificed human beings by

1607
02:00:30,279 --> 02:00:32,399
the ten thousands on the high holy days, So I mean,

1608
02:00:32,479 --> 02:00:37,520
come on, dude. He goes on to talk about the

1609
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:40,760
nineteen sixties as a shamanic initiation as a whole. That's

1610
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,640
what I've said for many, many years, by the way,

1611
02:00:45,439 --> 02:00:47,640
around the time that I was really beginning to learn

1612
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:51,600
that is when Daniel Pinchbeck wrote this. So that's true.

1613
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:54,039
I would say he is correct in that analysis. The

1614
02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:59,119
nineteen sixties were an intentional shamanic initiation of the West.

1615
02:00:59,159 --> 02:01:02,359
Free Tough Copper, right, we read Copper's globalist book. That's

1616
02:01:02,399 --> 02:01:07,640
what he says. It's not it's dust in here. By

1617
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,600
the way, that's why I'm scritching my notes. I'm not

1618
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:15,239
snorting cocaine. As you can see, these books are dusty.

1619
02:01:22,359 --> 02:01:28,840
Let's see. He goes on to talk about the explosion

1620
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,880
of the whole drug culture. He talks about John Lennon,

1621
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:38,000
the influence of John Lennon, John Lennon's influences. He talks

1622
02:01:38,079 --> 02:01:43,800
about the u N basically sort of adopting this model

1623
02:01:44,039 --> 02:01:54,880
of counterculture globally, the natural, natural drugs versus big pharma.

1624
02:01:55,039 --> 02:01:56,880
There's some truth to this section too, by the way,

1625
02:01:56,920 --> 02:02:00,960
where he says we can critique big pharma. But by

1626
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:04,560
the way, I'm sorry that big Pharma was involved in

1627
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:08,119
the production of LSD. So I mean, even that doesn't

1628
02:02:08,199 --> 02:02:12,760
really that even that narrative breaks down, And if you remember,

1629
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,800
you know Terence McKinnon did make a couple of points

1630
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:21,279
about this too, about the dangers of big pharma and TV, right,

1631
02:02:21,399 --> 02:02:25,640
and we can I would agree. Is TV bad and toxic? Yes?

1632
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,159
Is big pharma bad? Yes? And so these guys are

1633
02:02:28,239 --> 02:02:30,560
right about that. But see they give you the wrong solution.

1634
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:32,920
Oh so, because that's bad, now you need to do

1635
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:37,079
d MT and LSD LSD comes from these same people.

1636
02:02:37,119 --> 02:02:44,680
What are you talking about? He then does the same

1637
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:48,880
thing of Oh, because Western religion is scientism and this

1638
02:02:49,119 --> 02:02:53,800
and that and problematic bad, Let's jump to animism, pantheism,

1639
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:58,720
mythological archetypes, the return of quetzel Cotal. Excuse me, but

1640
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:02,720
quetzal Cotal is who they sacrificed humans to. So no,

1641
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:08,880
that's not where I want to go. Next chapter is

1642
02:03:09,199 --> 02:03:14,840
about the work itself. That's about in the Book of

1643
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:20,680
the Dead, the idea of being liberated from death. The

1644
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,560
book is supposed to be for the Guru, and it's

1645
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:29,199
the Guru's guide for guiding the guy dying. Okay, so

1646
02:03:29,439 --> 02:03:33,720
this is supposed to be a guide, this introductory chapter,

1647
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:37,960
what excuse me? Beyond pinchback the next chapter, of which

1648
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:41,880
I guess is Tim Leary? Is it Leary? I forget

1649
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:43,640
who wrote the show? It doesn't say, but I'm assuming

1650
02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:49,960
it's now beginning the Tim Leary section. Leary says Carl Jung.

1651
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,279
Carl Jung is who we want to look to here.

1652
02:03:54,840 --> 02:04:00,880
Carl Jung's psychoanalysis, which borrowed from ancient narcissism and platonism,

1653
02:04:02,279 --> 02:04:05,960
was aiming for a dialectic or a way to get

1654
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:10,039
beyond dialectics. Carl Jung argues that the way that we

1655
02:04:10,119 --> 02:04:15,079
get beyond dialectics is to integrate these disparate so called forces,

1656
02:04:15,239 --> 02:04:20,880
the shade right and the animis and the animal right.

1657
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:23,880
So you can integrate that and then you will transcend

1658
02:04:24,119 --> 02:04:28,239
like the you know, division and separation and multiplicity and

1659
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:36,359
the different aspects of yourself. And so apparently Young thought

1660
02:04:36,479 --> 02:04:40,840
that this book was relevant for that, because what we're

1661
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,680
going to see is that there's not actual evil out

1662
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:48,520
there in these entities, beings, thought forms, their manifestations of

1663
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:52,119
your psyche. But the weird part about this was that

1664
02:04:53,039 --> 02:05:01,880
there was an interesting statement here about metaphysics, where Carl

1665
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:06,039
Jung seems to say the problem with Western philosophy and

1666
02:05:06,079 --> 02:05:09,640
theology is that it's either or. It wants to fit

1667
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:13,439
everything into a dialectical opposition of either or. He's correct

1668
02:05:13,479 --> 02:05:16,279
on that, and he probably knew that because of Platonism.

1669
02:05:16,279 --> 02:05:20,000
I mean, this is really fundamental Hellenism is right. There's

1670
02:05:20,039 --> 02:05:25,600
a either or of eternity good time back one good,

1671
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:33,199
many bad, right being good, non being bad, and chain

1672
02:05:33,279 --> 02:05:40,920
of me. So these dialectics are problematic, and Carl Jung

1673
02:05:41,039 --> 02:05:45,479
says that when we say God is this, we have

1674
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:49,920
a problem because we've left via negativa in apathetic theology

1675
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:56,760
and we've given a definitional simplicity. That's problematic. That's true. However,

1676
02:05:57,039 --> 02:06:00,760
we're not going to say the opposite extreme of the

1677
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:04,399
Far Eastern philosophers, which is that therefore God is so

1678
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:10,520
apathetic that nobody can know anything about him. He is

1679
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:16,199
not a hymn. It's an ultimate beyond being, a perone,

1680
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:20,199
unknowable that can never have an interaction or a relation

1681
02:06:20,359 --> 02:06:23,920
with creatures and could never become incarnate. Now we would say,

1682
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:26,720
as Orthodox, yes, the essence of God is a perone,

1683
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:30,600
it is beyond being. But God's energies come down to us.

1684
02:06:32,399 --> 02:06:38,920
So we would agree with Carl Jung's critique of Western

1685
02:06:39,159 --> 02:06:44,319
doctrines of defining who God is, especially from the Middle

1686
02:06:44,359 --> 02:06:47,479
Ages on, but we do not accept his Far Eastern

1687
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:56,319
answer that God in every sense is unknowable, an apathetic

1688
02:06:57,119 --> 02:07:05,039
that would lead us to atheism. Carl Young goes on

1689
02:07:05,159 --> 02:07:08,920
to talk about the way that the Guru is to

1690
02:07:09,039 --> 02:07:12,760
initiate the person underneath him to understand the ego death.

1691
02:07:13,279 --> 02:07:16,359
So the death of the self, the ego death, is

1692
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:22,279
part of this integration process whereby man accepts and becomes

1693
02:07:23,279 --> 02:07:29,199
the dead man, and by accepting it becoming the dead man,

1694
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:33,560
he can bypass and not be duped by the thought

1695
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:41,479
forms and the conid state, the thought forms that appear

1696
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:44,439
to him, the fanes that fantasies that take on reality,

1697
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:48,880
the terrifying dreams evoked by his karma that play out

1698
02:07:49,159 --> 02:07:55,239
in the unconscious experience, in the initiation. In other words,

1699
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:59,960
when you begin this process of going through the trail,

1700
02:08:00,479 --> 02:08:03,800
the journey, the shamanic journey, the journey the dead, they're

1701
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:07,439
they're likening the journey of the soul in the Tibetan

1702
02:08:07,479 --> 02:08:12,079
Book of the Dead too. The ls the experience and

1703
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:15,520
if you have a bad trip, that's what it will

1704
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:20,399
feel like. It will feel like help, Okay. And he's

1705
02:08:20,439 --> 02:08:22,680
saying that you need a guide there because it's so

1706
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:26,039
intense and so wild. Okay. So when you're going. When

1707
02:08:26,039 --> 02:08:29,159
the person is going through this, the shaman wants to

1708
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:38,119
guide them. The the bardo right in this experience, wants

1709
02:08:38,199 --> 02:08:42,439
to guide the person to not be duped by the

1710
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:47,920
phantasms and the thought forms that are going to appear, which,

1711
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:50,000
by the way, just seemed to be like demons, right,

1712
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:53,439
just like the clockwork elves seem to be like demons.

1713
02:08:54,159 --> 02:08:57,319
Just embraced them. Did That's basically what we're saying here. Okay,

1714
02:08:57,439 --> 02:09:01,720
So don't be scared and do and just let them

1715
02:09:01,760 --> 02:09:06,199
into you. It's basically what we have and in doing

1716
02:09:06,319 --> 02:09:09,640
so you will achieve liberation. Now here's where this some

1717
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:11,640
of the things I had to kind of laugh at

1718
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:14,479
here with Leary, because Larry says, when you do this,

1719
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:17,840
you're going to feel like you're you're going schizophrenic. You're

1720
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:22,199
going to feel like you're sick and nauseous, but just

1721
02:09:22,319 --> 02:09:22,760
go with it.

1722
02:09:23,199 --> 02:09:23,319
Speaker 8: Right.

1723
02:09:23,359 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 1: It's like, maybe maybe I'm feeling schizophrenic because the drug

1724
02:09:28,039 --> 02:09:31,000
state is inducing schizophrenia. I mean, Tim Leary Excuna. Be

1725
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:34,960
Aldus Huxley says in his writings that it does induce schizophrenia,

1726
02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:39,920
So maybe that's something that a person should be weary of, right,

1727
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:42,680
He says, no, no, no, don't worry about that. It's

1728
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:48,279
a birth death, rebirth right. And every religion that did tantra,

1729
02:09:49,039 --> 02:09:53,359
the Vedic sages, the Eleusinian initiates, they all understood that

1730
02:09:53,479 --> 02:09:57,680
it's connected to the wheel of time and being reborn.

1731
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:03,119
Now here's a funny statement, ancient racial memories will come back.

1732
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:10,000
I'm not sure that fits with the social construct view

1733
02:10:10,399 --> 02:10:12,960
for ancient racial memories to come back. Wait a minute, now,

1734
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:17,039
you better revise that quickly out of what Timblary wrote here,

1735
02:10:17,039 --> 02:10:22,800
because that doesn't conform to what modern critical race theory says.

1736
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:26,119
So then we get to this first initiatory state. So

1737
02:10:26,159 --> 02:10:28,640
the first state is what they call the ego loss,

1738
02:10:29,079 --> 02:10:34,000
non game ecstasy, the first Bardo of the trip or

1739
02:10:34,079 --> 02:10:38,000
the book of the death. This is the first step

1740
02:10:38,039 --> 02:10:41,359
on the secret pathway to elimination. It will deal with

1741
02:10:42,119 --> 02:10:48,920
understanding the game life is a karmic game. It will

1742
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:53,439
be your awakening, the sleep I must awaken. I was

1743
02:10:53,479 --> 02:10:55,560
watching this and they just get reminding me of Doune.

1744
02:10:55,640 --> 02:10:59,840
And there's actually a line here that's very similar to

1745
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:04,279
what agent Cooper says to Leland. Remember when Leland's dying

1746
02:11:05,279 --> 02:11:09,239
in season two A Twin Peaks, and agent Cooper reads

1747
02:11:09,319 --> 02:11:12,359
this line about perceiving the light or something like. It's

1748
02:11:12,439 --> 02:11:17,800
literally almost exactly what Cooper says. Anyway, So you're going

1749
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:22,319
to experience a light. He says, this light is the

1750
02:11:22,439 --> 02:11:27,319
light of reality. It is the energetic transformation of thought forms.

1751
02:11:27,439 --> 02:11:30,359
It is the realm of the potentia. It is the unformed,

1752
02:11:30,479 --> 02:11:33,840
the unmade. It is the divine mind of the Buddha.

1753
02:11:34,039 --> 02:11:39,640
It is Buddhahood. It is perfect enlightenment. It is the beyond.

1754
02:11:41,279 --> 02:11:45,479
So the unmade, unformed that you're going into here this

1755
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:47,760
light experience. And by the way, I've experienced this, this

1756
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:54,439
is real, he says, is quote God or the creator God?

1757
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:58,720
It is not. I will tell you that this is

1758
02:11:59,319 --> 02:12:03,640
the either created light that is being experienced in the

1759
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:08,159
next spiritual realm, up the next dimension, up the noetic realm,

1760
02:12:09,479 --> 02:12:12,840
or it is a demon and demons can appear as light.

1761
02:12:14,359 --> 02:12:19,800
So whether it's a demon or whether it's just created light, right,

1762
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:26,159
doesn't really matter because it's not God. And Leary is

1763
02:12:26,279 --> 02:12:30,000
very clear that that's what all the religions are calling God. Okay,

1764
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:34,199
that's what Leary says. Now, what we just read from Lasky,

1765
02:12:35,319 --> 02:12:40,600
we don't call that God, right, God is uncreated light right.

1766
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:43,880
John says that in John one. John says that in

1767
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:48,119
first John one right, the transfiguration shows God as a

1768
02:12:48,279 --> 02:12:51,319
created like Paul says this in one tiventy six. So

1769
02:12:51,399 --> 02:12:54,560
we have to be careful not to confuse the noetic

1770
02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:58,680
realm and the experience in the noetic realm with God himself.

1771
02:12:59,279 --> 02:13:03,279
And that's precise. See what Leary does here. Leary goes

1772
02:13:03,279 --> 02:13:07,000
on in the notes to say that this experience isn't

1773
02:13:07,199 --> 02:13:10,600
he thinks his analogous to the birth of the universe.

1774
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:14,680
So just as the universe was this compacted thing in

1775
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:18,520
this stupid mythology that blew up into everything that is,

1776
02:13:19,479 --> 02:13:27,199
the individual must return to this pure state of non being. Okay,

1777
02:13:27,239 --> 02:13:30,479
but why, like, why is going back to being a

1778
02:13:31,479 --> 02:13:36,640
little tiny atom, which is basically non being? He's saying,

1779
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:40,039
why is that better? Well, there's no reason to say

1780
02:13:40,079 --> 02:13:42,399
that that's better. First of all, it's not true this

1781
02:13:43,479 --> 02:13:48,359
explosion from nothing into being mythology. That's the secular creation myth.

1782
02:13:48,399 --> 02:13:50,359
But even if it were true, on what basis is

1783
02:13:50,439 --> 02:13:53,000
that something that we got to work back to? Why

1784
02:13:53,159 --> 02:13:55,720
why am I supposed to think that it's oh, it's better, right,

1785
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:59,000
Because remember that this is making the argument that somehow

1786
02:13:59,159 --> 02:14:04,960
older is better. I thought he was most ancient mystic religions. Bro,

1787
02:14:05,159 --> 02:14:09,920
you follow modern Western christian man's religion, but my religion

1788
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:16,600
it goes back a billion years the Really, maybe your

1789
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:19,239
error is a billion years old. I mean, I don't

1790
02:14:19,239 --> 02:14:21,119
think it was a billion years old. But even if

1791
02:14:21,159 --> 02:14:23,920
it was a billion years old, so what like, on

1792
02:14:24,039 --> 02:14:28,600
what basis is just being older better? Maybe you were

1793
02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:32,039
the tards of a billion years ago everything of that.

1794
02:14:33,279 --> 02:14:36,720
But no, O Leary just assumes, and his idiotic audience

1795
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:40,520
assumes that if it's older, it's better. Well, Satan's older

1796
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:42,920
than any of us, and he was in the garden, right,

1797
02:14:43,079 --> 02:14:46,279
So just because it's older doesn't mean it's better. But

1798
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:50,079
the assumption here is that since everything came from no thing,

1799
02:14:51,279 --> 02:14:53,920
maybe it's better to return to no thing. You see

1800
02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:55,840
the dumb logic here. This is how stupid it is.

1801
02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:58,479
And so therefore there is a sense in what you

1802
02:14:58,520 --> 02:15:04,279
could say that these religions are worshiping nothing, the great

1803
02:15:04,479 --> 02:15:10,439
zero in the sky. Ah, here comes the soy face,

1804
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:17,920
mean guy, whoa dude? We worship zero? I worshiped the

1805
02:15:18,039 --> 02:15:28,560
Great Zero, the zero almight dear. And by the way,

1806
02:15:29,479 --> 02:15:35,840
another problem that's at work here is that there's an

1807
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:40,680
inability to make distinctions. Okay, so in a philosophical metaphysical sense, right,

1808
02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:43,199
And we will give the Greeks credit for this, because

1809
02:15:44,039 --> 02:15:48,000
a Greek philosophy, Aristotle, Plato of Platonis, they were good

1810
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:52,359
and the Church Father's even better at making distinctions and

1811
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:58,560
making distinctions without it necessitating composition, division or separation, a

1812
02:15:58,680 --> 02:16:04,279
right apple hinosis from Cyril right, or the innerpenetration of

1813
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,680
the two natures in Christ amongst one another without either

1814
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:11,439
of them losing their natural properties. You know, these are examples, right,

1815
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:14,039
the distinctions of the persons in the Trinity without there

1816
02:16:14,079 --> 02:16:17,319
being parts of the trinity. Okay, these are examples of

1817
02:16:17,399 --> 02:16:21,760
how philosophy and the Church Fathers were able to utilize

1818
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:26,439
ideas of distinction without separation, composition, or division. But in

1819
02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:31,399
all these religions and philosophies, distinction is automatically seen and

1820
02:16:31,479 --> 02:16:35,440
perceived to be lesser bad or the source of evil

1821
02:16:35,479 --> 02:16:40,000
in general. Hence, why the ability to even say you

1822
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:46,719
are a self is itself egoism. You need to stop

1823
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:51,239
being a self bro, because when you say yourself, you

1824
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:57,200
set yourself apart from everybody else, dude, and that is douchey.

1825
02:16:58,040 --> 02:17:00,799
You sech a deuce when you say that year a self.

1826
02:17:01,239 --> 02:17:04,799
Oh really? And then the guy who says that thinks

1827
02:17:04,840 --> 02:17:07,920
he's superior to you because he is a dude who's

1828
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:10,760
a self making this orry. It's just stupid, right, all

1829
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:16,159
of this stuff is childish and stupid. But because at

1830
02:17:16,280 --> 02:17:21,799
root underneath all of this there is a satanic component,

1831
02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:25,879
you can deduce truths out of this. You can see, ah,

1832
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:33,399
I see the satanic deception involved in this. And then

1833
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:36,120
by the way, we get another This is where he

1834
02:17:36,280 --> 02:17:39,719
makes Leary makes the funny statement on page twenty six that, yes,

1835
02:17:39,799 --> 02:17:42,840
when you feel like you are melting and becoming schizo

1836
02:17:43,079 --> 02:17:46,719
and your pelvic regions begin to gyrate, and you feel

1837
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:49,319
like you're being attacked by demons and you have a

1838
02:17:49,399 --> 02:17:54,399
fever and nausea, just enjoy it. Literally, that's what he says. Says,

1839
02:17:54,479 --> 02:17:58,520
Just enjoy it, dude, dude, I'm feel like I'm dying.

1840
02:17:58,959 --> 02:18:01,799
I just enjoy it, man, It's cool. It's all good.

1841
02:18:02,799 --> 02:18:06,639
So then he goes on and he says, the light

1842
02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:10,040
that you see here is God or what we call God.

1843
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It's not God, but that's what Leary says. He says,

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if you don't maintain this heightened state of experiencing this light,

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he says, you will slip into the next lower phase

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of this initiative initiatic process that he calls the secondary

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clear light. He says, so after you've gone through the

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ego loss experience, which is seeing this created light what

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he's calling, after you meet Satan, I'm just gonna say

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what it is. Okay, once you meet Satan and you

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experience ego loss, which is not ego loss, it's basically

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being initiated into Satanism, which makes you feel like you're

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superior to everyone. And that's why everybody goes through this

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comes out of it thinking of all the world. He says.

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The next phase that you will probably slip into is

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the ENLiGHT him about biological energy. So your next are

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going to feel a explosion of creative impulse and understanding

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of the biological realm. Right, the energy of the animals

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and the trees and nature and molecules and plants. Uh,

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and how energy is suffusing all of this. Now, that's true,

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but again that's all created energy. Okay, So don't mistake

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this from what orthodoxy says, because orthodoxy says, yeah, there's

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there's vegetative energy, and there's vegetative you know, there's there's

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created light from the sun, and there's human being energy,

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and there's biological energy. Yeah, that's all true, but that's

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still created energy. Okay, that's not God. It's the distinction

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between God and creatures. God's uncreated creatures are created. Okay,

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fundamental metaphysics of Christianity. There the pagan religions blend them.

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Remember everybody's doing this. They blend and they say God

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is the created world. God is the created light. God

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is the created energies. God is the plant's brow. If

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you have slipped down into this lower stage, this level

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two of the trip journey, he says, you will begin

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to feel something strange going on your body. He says,

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you're going to experience the Kundalini energy that will either

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you'll feel it at the base of your spine or

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at the top of your head, the tingling hot heat.

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This is the presence of Satan in your body, making

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you feel like you are enlightened. That's what this is.

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And by the way, for all of the goofy people

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who say that this teaching of St. Gregory Palamus is yoga,

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this is nothing. This is totally different. You see right,

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everything Palomas is nothing like yoga. Okay, now that the

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phrase of you know, seeing the light is similar, yes,

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but sang Graia Palma says, it is not the created

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light that we are seeing. We are not being suffused

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with demons and serpent energy in our spine and on

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our pelvic regions. Okay, nothing like that in Palomas. Okay.

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Saning Graia Palamas says, the goal of this prayer process

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is to become one with a personal God, Jesus, and

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the spirit leads us to Jesus, who leads us to

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the Father. So it's trinitarian, nothing like that here. It's

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just so. In other words, because the same word light

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is used, do you think it's the same. How stupid

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is that because Palomus use the word light, and because

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they say that the serpent power. By that argument, Paul

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is talking about Satanism because he says the word light.

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But no, he says that a demon can appear as

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an angel of light, and God also appears as light,

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So duh, shouldn't even be debate. This is stupid, So

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we will stop there because that's the beginning of the

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next stage of the trip, is these first two phases

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of the first Bardo. The second Bartow will begin with

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the manifestations of the thought forms and the hallucinations. Right this,

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we're gonna start seeing the dang demons, okay, and that's

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going to be taken up in the show, I assume

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me the part two of the show. For the subscribers

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to Jay's analysis, wish you can subscribe at the link

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below at the member's site, and we will do these

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last couple of super chats and then we will wish

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you all a happy Bert says for ten dollars, great discussion, Jay,

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having you, great discussion with all of you here with me,

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and thank you so much for your support. Rye Brainium

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four or five dollars. Yeah, I don't know what voice

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it is. It sounds like one of Sentizel's. I don't

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know who it is, but we'll just say that it

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is General Nao seven, another psychedelic guru. We would love

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to see you. Oh yes, I keep forgetting. I have

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read I've read Cosmic Trigger, and I've read the other

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the other one I've not read the whole Illuminatus trilogy.

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I've started it. It's really long, so I didn't really

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dive into it yet. I do intend to eventually read

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the Illuminatus trilogy. And yes, I keep I don't know

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why I keep forgetting Raw. But Robert Anton Wilson was

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very influenced by Crowley and all that stuff, and so

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what's the Luciferian But there's the there's Cosmic Trigger, and

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then there's one that's like Luciferian. So I read all

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of those or both of those in two thousand and

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ten or eleven, so I have read those, but they

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would be perfect. You're absolutely right. One of Santa's clockwork

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machine els, what's that? What's the other Raw book? Somebody

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will remember there's Cosmic Trigger and then there's the one

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that's like the Luciferian something. Anyway, all right, awesome, Happy

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New Year, Thank you guys. A lot of fun, empty man, Yeah,

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it's worth watching. I already spoiled it for you, but

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you will. You could have fun, you know, kind of

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decoding the symbolism and see if you agree with what

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all I say in my take. And if you don't,

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feel free to leave a comment below, hit like, share

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a subscribe, and we will see you soon. Next up

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is x Files. We have the X Files show Prometheus Rising.

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That's it, Prometheus Rising. Thank you. We'll have the X

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Files show in the next couple of days. That'll be fun.

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We will be doing our favorite episodes. Probably I said

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top ten, but it's actually more like fifteen. In the movie,

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the first movie, okay, second X Files movie is awful, terrible,

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but Fight the Future is pretty good. There's some really

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weird stuff.