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Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,320 much for your support. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,679 Speaker 2: One of the staggering aspects when I was in elected 11 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:34,079 office it was it was amazing to me the number 12 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,960 of organizations that would come with their handout to government. 13 00:00:37,759 --> 00:00:41,640 So any given community has anywhere from you know, even 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,359 small communities have ten twenty five of them, and the 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,600 large communities like Charlotte wud have one hundred hundred fifty 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,000 two hundred. 17 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: I don't even know how many Charlotte would have, but 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,479 they would come. 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,079 Speaker 2: Someone realized that they could go. It's a lot easier 20 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:58,640 to convince three or four whatever them, four to seven whatever. 21 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:00,960 The majority of having given board is to give you 22 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:04,319 money than it is to convince the population at large. 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,480 A lotless work if I can go and get you know, 24 00:01:06,519 --> 00:01:08,480 if your board is seven commissioners and I get four 25 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:10,840 of them to say, y'all give you fifty thousand dollars, 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,719 that's a lot less work on my part. But what 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,920 it means is that those commissioners or those council members 28 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:22,400 feel they feel good about giving your money to a 29 00:01:22,439 --> 00:01:25,799 group that you didn't give to. So then the other 30 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:28,719 groups go, uh huh, I can go and ask for 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,680 government money, and they start going and asking. And yet 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,599 if you're a councilman or a county commissioner, you feel 33 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:39,400 heartless or they will try to make you feel heartless 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,920 for turning them down. Not the organizations necessarily, but your 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,000 fellow board members or people of the opposite political party. Oh, 36 00:01:47,159 --> 00:01:50,840 Chad is so heartless. He doesn't care about those people now. 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Never mind, I was involved in five or six of 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,599 those organizations and was giving my time, effort, money, going 39 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:57,840 out and knocking on doors and making calls and raising 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,120 money and doing events that will zerele. What was important 41 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:04,879 to them, my political enemies at the time, was that 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,280 I didn't care about those organs. 43 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: I did. I just and I said it in commissioner chambers, where. 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,599 Speaker 2: I said, I don't feel it's my right to take 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,080 away money from people who earned it to give to 46 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,759 an organization that they didn't choose to give it to, 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,800 no matter how worthwhile the organization was, and many worthwhile organizations, 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,960 that doesn't mean they should be entitled a taxpayer money. 49 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:29,800 In fact, I argued, and it became true over time, 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,919 which was that the more that these organizations go and 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,159 get government money, the more removed they are from the 52 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:40,400 community they are supposed to serve. Because when a group 53 00:02:40,439 --> 00:02:42,240 is out there trying to raise money and make a 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,360 difference in a community, they're out there in the community 55 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,400 trying to raise money and make a difference in the community. 56 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:48,680 If they can go and rely on a government handout, 57 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:50,759 they're not out there in the community asking for money 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,159 as much. 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,319 Speaker 3: They get lazy, and they die, they wither on the vine. 60 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:54,960 They serve. 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: The people they serve may get something from government, but 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,280 that government gravy train is inconsistent, and the organization spends 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,439 more time trying to get money from government than trying 64 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:07,439 to get money from citizens. And then all of that 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,199 wonderful altruistic mindset of individuals that want to give money 66 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:15,039 and feel like giving money, they're they're gone, So your 67 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:18,759 donor base goes right and the organizations die, which is 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,800 why it's much better. It's much more heartfelt when it 69 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:27,000 comes from individuals than from government. Government wasn't designed to 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,400 have a heart. Government was designed to get out of 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 the way. We forget that. It's easy to forget that. 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,319 Now all on to more interesting times, and I do 73 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,240 one of the There are many things you can like 74 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,919 or not like about the president, but you can't say 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,719 he's not masterful at that provoking thought. So when Trump 76 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:54,520 talks about Canada or Mexico being you know, annexed in 77 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:57,919 the United States, people lose their minds and political fortunes 78 00:03:57,919 --> 00:04:01,000 are made and lost. Just Trudeau may not be the 79 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:04,599 Prime minister of Canada, Trump suggested that Wayne Gretzky run 80 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:07,280 for office, because everyone loves Wayne Gretzky in Canada and 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,319 he should run. Gretzky said, well, I don't want to run, 82 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:11,360 and so Trump puts out there, Hey, we should draft 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,280 a petition in Canada and the Canadian should draft him. 84 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,439 Speaker 3: The Canadian should draft Wayne Gretzky to be prime minister. 85 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: I things beautiful, but nothing has stirred commentary quite as 86 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,720 much as the Greenland. He did this a few years 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,120 ago when he was president, and now he's done it again, 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,720 and he's talking now about the serious nature of Greenland 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,680 with respect to America's interest. And I have said, you know, 90 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,000 this is acting like it's going to be a military invasion. 91 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,199 Is where people lose their mind. So I saw the 92 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:43,480 story this morning, I thought this was just silly. But 93 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:46,040 as Donald Trump tweets stuff out there. Days after Donald 94 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:49,040 Trump again, this is at the Washington Times, It's all 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,360 over the AP and other people have written it. Days 96 00:04:51,399 --> 00:04:55,199 after Donald Trump again expressed interest in acquiring Greenland, Denmark 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,439 had said it would boost defenses on its Arctic territory. 98 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:03,319 In what it insisted was a total coincidence, the Scandinavian 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,319 country announced his investment of one point five billion in 100 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:09,279 defenses of its vast possession bordering North America. 101 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: The Danes will add two. 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,519 Speaker 2: Elite Navy sled dog Navy sled dog teams. Now, if 103 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,720 you're going to fend off a United States invasion, if 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,720 that's really the goal, would you really send two elite 105 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,240 navy sled dog teams and two little patrol boats and 106 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,120 two new. 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: Long range drones. 108 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,959 Speaker 2: So you've got two dog sled teams two patrol boats 109 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:34,120 and two long range drones that are going to defend 110 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,319 Greenland against the United States. Now, imagine, if you will, 111 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,160 that you are one of the guys in charge of 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,439 the dog sled team and your commanding officer comes to 113 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:46,680 you and says, you know what, we are very concerned 114 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,959 about those Americans. You will defend us. You will defend 115 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:53,920 the country against America, You and your eight dogs. You 116 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:58,360 would feel how would you feel? Honey, I'm sorry, I 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,199 have to go to Greenland. 118 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: I've been called up. 119 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:04,079 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is going to invade Greenland and me and 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,199 the dogs were off. How many dog teams are going 121 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:08,759 with you? 122 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:08,959 Speaker 3: Oh? 123 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: F well, just Fred down the street. Fred and I. 124 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:14,959 We're going with the two dog sled teams. We're going 125 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,680 to stop the Americans. It's like a dubbed bad sci 126 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,120 fi movie, isn't it. Two dog sled teams against the 127 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,959 entirety of the US military. I love alleys that they 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,680 beefed up their security forces. They're gonna add two dogs 129 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:28,800 led teams, two patrol boats, and two long rangeo Now 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,160 the interesting thing to me about this, that's funny enough 131 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,839 to me. The other funny thing is they haven't been 132 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,199 paying their fair share of NATO. 133 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: Now if they were. 134 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: We have a military bank, fifty thousand people in all 135 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,720 of Greenland, we have a military base there. We are 136 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:43,879 providing a lot of the defenses for Greenland, more so 137 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,879 than almost the Danes are. And they're not even paying 138 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:48,560 for their fair share of the defense of their own 139 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:52,079 country in Europe through a NATO where Trump says you're 140 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,399 gonna pay your fairs shirre and so lest you think 141 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,160 this has never been done before, and I'm not talking 142 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,839 about the invasion, we negotiated a purchased and seating of 143 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,319 territory from the Danes before. And if you've ever been 144 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:09,079 to the US Virgin Islands, you're welcome. That happened, same country, 145 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,519 same people had autonomy over it. If you ever go 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,600 to a rub but the Danes kind of have that. 147 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: It's kind of back and forth as to who's running things. 148 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: But this isn't as violent and horrific as you may think. 149 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:22,680 And when we come back from the break, I'll kind 150 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,759 of go through this because it's not We haven't acquired 151 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,560 property quest and I think the last was about nineteen 152 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:31,920 seventeen when we got Guam, the Philippines in Puerto Rico 153 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:32,639 from the Spanish. 154 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:33,879 Speaker 3: It happens. 155 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: So this thing with Greenland is interesting. The thing with 156 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:40,560 Canada's imagine if you will, that in a couple of 157 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:43,519 years that the Canadians decide we don't we like this 158 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,279 whole concept. 159 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:45,279 Speaker 3: Maybe Quebec goes. 160 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:47,959 Speaker 2: Quebec is its own thing with the French and let 161 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,160 the French be as a French. But let's see if 162 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:53,399 we what would it look like if there were five 163 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:56,480 more states in Canada and another state was Greenland. 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And 207 00:10:03,279 --> 00:10:05,200 there's actually a video if you go out there and 208 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,200 look for it, you will find a video of how 209 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,679 Trump kind of creates his tweets with team and he 210 00:10:14,039 --> 00:10:17,120 just says stuff off the cuff, and he says, yeah, 211 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:19,759 put that out there, and he does. And so he 212 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 unlike Biden, who we know clearly doesn't write his tweets 213 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,480 and many other people who don't, he does. 214 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: He does. 215 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: And what makes it so unique is he's not going 216 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:31,879 to his consultant saying, hey, what do the polls say 217 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:35,320 about this. It's not like Josh din or like Governor Cooper, 218 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:37,519 who have to consult with someone to say should I 219 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,879 say that? Or they have a team that writes it. 220 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:42,039 And in fact, it's so bad that if you go 221 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,000 to Roy Cooper's Twitter feed, you will find that anything 222 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:48,440 they have to go out of their way to say 223 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:52,039 something that comes from him has an RC at the 224 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,799 end of it, meaning that he actually did that. 225 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: The rest of them are. 226 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,519 Speaker 2: Not him, even though it's his name, but he's gone 227 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:01,519 out of his way to make sure only these and 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,480 also a governor that has almost no email trail through 229 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,559 his years of. 230 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: Public service, one of the most secretive. 231 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,039 Speaker 2: One of the most non open, non transparent governors in 232 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:18,320 the state's history. It's true, factually true, just doesn't seem 233 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,840 to care about that. So because what he learned as 234 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:24,519 a Democrat was that they use those weapons against Republicans 235 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,200 all the time. So he doesn't want to have a trail, 236 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,200 so he tells other people what he wants done, they 237 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:29,440 do it. 238 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,039 Speaker 3: Then he has. 239 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:33,759 Speaker 2: The two most important words in politics are plausible deniability, 240 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:36,080 and that has been the way in which Governor Cooper 241 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,159 has operated its entire career. I didn't write that, I 242 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,360 didn't say that. You have no proof that I wrote 243 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,840 that or cared about that issue. Can't say that I 244 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,480 did it unless it happened in front of a camera. 245 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,519 It doesn't exist. Now, what I was going to say 246 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:53,639 about Trump, the way he operates is that when he 247 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,440 throws stuff out there and it becomes fodder for everybody 248 00:11:59,639 --> 00:12:03,639 to get in there, argue, haggle, throw stuff, get mean, 249 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,919 and he just watches, here's what happens. 250 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: I'll throw it out there. We'll see what they do. 251 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,480 He doesn't do it with any defender. He should, we should, 252 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:11,240 we should do this. 253 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: And make no mistake, Greenland is strategically important. He is 254 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:17,559 correct in that we should take it over. That doesn't 255 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,799 mean he will. But if you were to listen to 256 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,159 the mainstream, which is dying slowly in the death throws, 257 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:23,960 they go. 258 00:12:23,879 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: Out of their way. See he Trump's gotta be a dictator. 259 00:12:25,759 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: On day one, He's gonna invade Greenland. He's gonna send 260 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,799 Fort Liberty formerly noticed Fort brag He's gonna invade. He's 261 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:32,799 gonna send the eighty second Airborne in. He's gonna send 262 00:12:32,799 --> 00:12:34,519 the one on one from Kentucky. The screaming Eagles are 263 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:36,720 gonna go Land. They're gonna take it over. Trump is 264 00:12:36,759 --> 00:12:39,240 a dictator, and that's none of that is true, of course, 265 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,159 but that doesn't stop the Danes. The Dutch say, oh, 266 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,600 we need to defend Greenland against the US. 267 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: So we're gonna put some dogs led teams out. Not 268 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:52,039 a joke. They seriously said they're gonna do that. Here's 269 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:53,679 this is from the dossier. 270 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: And I like these kind of they're almost like blogs, 271 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,000 they're like edit files and stuff like that. They're actually 272 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,919 legitimate people. This is a good one that OSSI is 273 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:08,759 actually a publication. This is by Jordan Chattel. I'm gonna 274 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:11,440 say his name wrong, shash Tel, and he wrote the 275 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:14,440 annexation of Greenland would be the first major US acquisition 276 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,799 in well over century. It would positively shape President Trump's legacy. 277 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,440 What I like about this column is it's giving you 278 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,080 something to think about. It's not saying he will or 279 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,879 won't do it, but what would it look like if 280 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:27,639 he did. President Elect Tromp made quite the buzz over 281 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,840 the weekend when he expressed a strong interest in acquiring 282 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,919 the Danish controlled autonomous territory of Greenland, a land that 283 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,399 is both immensely resource rich and strategically a high priority 284 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,080 to the interest of all major powers, including China. Whether 285 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,120 you're studying abroad dreaming, I'm sorry in a post a 286 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,039 truth social On Sunday, Trump announced the nomination of PayPal 287 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,360 co founder Ken Howary to serve as the next US 288 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,320 Ambassador of Denmark, writing quote, for purposes of national security 289 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,360 and freedom throughout the world, the United States of America 290 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,360 feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an 291 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:59,960 absolute necessity end quote. As we said, it's incredibly recent, 292 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:03,440 rich with rare earth mineral deposits valued in the hundreds 293 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,840 of billions of dollars, and its geopolitical position is incredibly 294 00:14:06,879 --> 00:14:10,480 significant to our interest visa our great power rivals. Should 295 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:13,240 Greenland fall under the Chinese umbrella, it would have a 296 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:18,720 devastating national security application for the US. Denmark's hyperliberal political 297 00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:21,919 leadership has sought to preserve Greenland for Gaya, you know, 298 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,159 the Earth Guide, and Copenhagen has essentially cut the territory 299 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:28,679 all for most human contact other than tourism. There are 300 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:31,000 about fifty thousand people who live there because they have 301 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,639 bought into all the climate hoax stuff and DEI narratives. 302 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:38,240 The current Prime Minister of Greenland, a socialist politician named Mute, 303 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,360 egged love those names, don't you Mute? His name is 304 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Mute m Mute. Mute responded to the Trump Post declaring 305 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:47,879 that Greenland is not for sale. I don't think Trump 306 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:49,360 said it was for sale. He just said it was 307 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:54,720 strategically important. Respectfully, Greenland is autonomous Danish territory, so it's 308 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:57,600 sale wouldn't really involve the locals, though it would be 309 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,559 wise to accommodate their interest and get their consent. Don't 310 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:03,440 be surprised if the Trump administration reaches out to Copenhagen 311 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,399 and starts the very real process of negotiating over the 312 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,200 future of Greenland. They can start by leveraging Denmark's failure 313 00:15:10,679 --> 00:15:12,799 to live up to the two percent defense spending as 314 00:15:12,799 --> 00:15:15,840 a NATO member. The United States already maintains one military 315 00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:20,200 base in Greenland, known as Patefic Space Base, which supports 316 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,120 critical mission missile warnings, missile defense, and space surveillance missions. 317 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:26,399 It's been quite a long while, but the United States 318 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,200 has annexed territories numerous times in its history. 319 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: That has shaped our country. 320 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,759 Speaker 2: Now I want you to give you this just in 321 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:35,240 case you think when the media tells you. 322 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: Oh, this is terrible, as horrible, we have done it. 323 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:39,879 Speaker 2: The Louisiana purchase was in eighteen oh three, eight hundred 324 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:42,879 twenty eight thousand square miles from France. Which double the 325 00:15:42,879 --> 00:15:45,559 size of the US. The annexation of Texas in eighteen 326 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:48,039 forty five we took We got that from Mexico at 327 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:50,000 the end of the Mexican American War the Treaty of 328 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,559 Guadalupe Hidalgo eighteen forty eight. We got five hundred and twenty 329 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:56,080 seven thousand square miles added to the US, which included 330 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,600 California and Nevada, Utah, most of Arizona, parts of New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, 331 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,840 andt Oklatre. We had the Gadsden Purchase in eighteen fifty three. 332 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:05,960 We had the annexation of Hawaii. In eighteen ninety eight, 333 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,320 we had the Spanish American War, which led to US 334 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,000 acquiring Puerto Rico, Guam, the Philippines from Spain. The Philippines 335 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,519 letter became independent in nineteen forty six, but Puerto Rico 336 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:19,399 and Guam are still US territories. See it's not American Samoa. 337 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: After the Second Samoa Civil. 338 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: War, the US formerly annexed the eastern part of the islands, 339 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,440 which became American Samoa. So it isn't unheard of, and 340 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:29,759 it could be acquired and it might be worth it. 341 00:16:30,039 --> 00:16:32,440 The Dutch may say, you know what if the people 342 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,879 at Greenland are cool with this and it's financially good 343 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,399 for our country and financially good and strategically important to 344 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:38,759 the US. 345 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:41,399 Speaker 3: Hey, we're all in all right? 346 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Hey real quick, if you would like to get your 347 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:46,600 product or service in front of about ten thousand people 348 00:16:46,759 --> 00:16:49,360 multiple times a day, send me an email at Pete 349 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,559 atthepetecleanershow dot com and ask me about advertising. It's super affordable, 350 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:57,679 it's baked into this podcast forever, and podcasts have a 351 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:00,559 higher conversion rate than other social media platform is making 352 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:02,559 it the best bang for your buck. Send me a 353 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,039 message Pete at thepeteclendarshow dot com and I can show 354 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:08,039 you how it works. Run the numbers with you again. 355 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:11,440 That's Pete at the peteclendarsshow dot com. 356 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: I saw a funny one a meme and because we will, 357 00:17:16,039 --> 00:17:18,200 I will not belabor the climate change. I think we're 358 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,240 going to the beauty of twenty twenty five. In my 359 00:17:20,279 --> 00:17:22,759 opinion on this subject is, I think we're gonna have substance, 360 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:28,279 substantive discussions about climate I think that we're finally going 361 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,279 to break through this cult mentality and have some discussions 362 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:32,680 about it. 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,279 Speaker 3: What does it mean, what are the implications. 364 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: And this meme is it's a meme and it's the 365 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,920 like the Mayans, you know, taking someone to the top 366 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,440 of the temple and cutting their heart out and throwing 367 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,920 it down the temple steps. And it says government protecting 368 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,160 us from climate change since thirteen. 369 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: Fifty because that's what they were trying. 370 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: If you think about it, all of those human sacrifices 371 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:56,359 were about the government at the time, the rulers wanting 372 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,640 to make the crops work rain or too much rain 373 00:18:00,839 --> 00:18:03,240 to get rid of it, too little rain. Add more so, 374 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:06,559 it's about climate change. They were human sacrificing their way 375 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:10,000 to climate change. And the people involved in this whole ordeal, 376 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:12,680 like John Carey, that's the same thing they want. They'd 377 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,640 love population control for climate change. If we just do this, 378 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,880 we'll fix the climate. It's an existential threat to humanity. 379 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:23,480 So if we have to sacrifice a few humans along 380 00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:27,519 the way, then we're okay. It's all good. And that's 381 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,000 just kind of the way they see things, and it 382 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,799 is unfortunate, but nonetheless that's the way the way they 383 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:37,119 see I. 384 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: Would love for us to be able to do this. 385 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: By the way, just about two hours ago, the president 386 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,720 took off and left to Saint Croix. 387 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:46,319 Speaker 3: He's been traveling. 388 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: And the president who's taking more time off than any 389 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,720 president in history. 390 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: This is the guy. I mean. 391 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: Think about that Franklin Dell and Roosevelt had Pollion, was 392 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:58,119 in a wheelchair, and he didn't take off as much 393 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,720 time as this president did. This president has been just lacked. 394 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,880 He's not one of you, He's not one of us, 395 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,759 not even close to one of us. 396 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: Just the way it is. 397 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,559 Speaker 2: Even member of his own party are kind of wondering 398 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,960 what the heck is going on with him? 399 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,079 Speaker 3: But who knows? 400 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: Now on the class as we had raw the top 401 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:23,920 of the hour do this is kind of an uplifting story. 402 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,119 A little bit that it was originally published back in 403 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,920 twenty eighteen, but I think it's worthwhile as we reflect 404 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:35,880 on our country and where we are what is it 405 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,079 Because a lot of what is great about this country 406 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,359 is timeless. A lot of what is wonderful about its founding, 407 00:19:43,559 --> 00:19:47,400 about the recognition that others saw in it over time, 408 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:50,880 that's timeless. And you have to believe the sacrifice is 409 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,640 made by countless millions over that period of time. We 410 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,559 owe it to them to make it prices and to 411 00:19:58,599 --> 00:20:03,400 preserve the prices nature of being American. And this is 412 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,119 originally published in the Twentiesslawliberty dot Org and it's originally 413 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,279 published in December twenty fourth to twenty eighteen. Miracle on 414 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:14,039 thirty Fourth Street from nineteen forty seven is the finest 415 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,880 cinematic exploration of the commercialization of Christmas. The central story 416 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,640 is that Chris Kringle, a man who looks like and 417 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,640 believes he is Santa Claus, is hired to play Santa 418 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Claus at Macy's. When it is revealed that he believes 419 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,359 he is the real Santa Claus, he must defend his 420 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,440 sanity in court. Rather than condemned commercialization. Miracle on thirty 421 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,640 Fourth Street recognizes that Christmas and commercialism are like milk 422 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,359 and cookies. You can't have one without the other. It 423 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,160 pragmatically accepts commercialism as part of the celebration of Christmas. 424 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,599 In America, gift giving requires a marketplace. Chris is not 425 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,200 opposed to working for a department store where the prime 426 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,720 purpose of having children visit Santa is it so that 427 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:52,240 moms and dads will buy things while they're there. He's 428 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:55,440 highly knowledgeable about the toy market. He knows where and 429 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,759 for how much toys are sold. As if to drive 430 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:00,920 the point home, Chris Kringle sings the nursery to market 431 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,000 to market to Susan young Natalie would insofar as markets 432 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,839 are where toys are bought and sold, Kringle accepts them 433 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:13,000 as useful and legitimate part of Christmas. In Democracy in America, 434 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:15,559 by the way, if you have someone under the age 435 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,400 of like eighteen, find a way to get them to 436 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,400 read Democracy in America, I know it's times like trying 437 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,599 to get them to read Shakespeare, which is also a 438 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,279 worthwhile endeavor. No whatdy understands human nature the way Shakespeare 439 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,000 quite did. I think he's way ahead of most of 440 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:35,720 psychiatric care by centuries. Democracy in America by Detopable explains 441 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,559 that the American morality is the doctrine of self interest 442 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,559 rightly understood enlightened selfishness. But it sounds like I'm Gordon Gecko, 443 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,200 doesn't it greed is good? That's not what he says. 444 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:51,960 Enlightened self selfishness motivates Americans to be honest and self restrained, 445 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,359 for they know that these virtues are the surest way 446 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,400 to get what one wants. From others by being honest 447 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,880 and self restrained. Americans dtop Will observes love to praise 448 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,160 how their self interest produces the common good. Nevertheless, detop 449 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Will sees evidence of Americans giving themselves over to unreflective 450 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:14,279 impulses of goodwill towards others. Americans are, he says, better 451 00:22:14,319 --> 00:22:17,559 than they say. They demonstrate through their actions, not their words. 452 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,079 Sincere self forgetting behavior. 453 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: Miracle on thirty. 454 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,039 Speaker 2: Fourth Street explores how calculated self interest can ameliorate some 455 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,480 of the worst tendencies of commercialism. Self interest, rightly understood, 456 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:33,400 does what Deteufel says. Self interest also provides cover for 457 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,000 characters stacked on more noble grounds. Characters make decisions that 458 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:39,519 require loyalty and resolve. 459 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: That go beyond just self interest. 460 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: In the first half of the film, Chris inspires Macy's 461 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,000 to adopt a policy that furthers its profits and the 462 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,559 customer's interest. After the head of Macy's toy department gives 463 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:53,119 Kringle a list of over stocked toys to suggest for children, 464 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:55,759 Chris Kringle rips up the list. He objects on the 465 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:58,359 grounds that a child should not be manipulated into asking 466 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,440 for a toy that they don't want the head of 467 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,599 the toy department mistake of ordering too many of the 468 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,359 toys using the child's trust and center to do so 469 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,880 violates that child's trust. Making the child happy is the 470 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,759 job of Santa Claus after all, and Kringle sees how 471 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:15,519 self interest can be better harnessed to produce a better outcome. 472 00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:16,799 Speaker 3: When you go through. 473 00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: This, this entire exercise, as you're reading through these kind 474 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,599 of pieces, what you realize is is that in spite 475 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,240 of what the left says about how horrible capitalism is 476 00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:34,640 and how horrible capitalistic enterprises are, there not they operate 477 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,839 best when they are self interested and that they are honest. 478 00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:40,599 Here's what I'm going to provide you, and yes, I'm 479 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:43,039 going to make a profit on it. I'm telling you 480 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,519 every Apple iPhone soul there's profits. When you see all 481 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:49,119 these companies saying, hey, buy three lines, get one free, 482 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960 that's not as honest, is it, Because they're not free. 483 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: They're not free. 484 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna give you now, you're not you're not giving me, 485 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:57,599 You're not added up. And that's why I think there's 486 00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:00,519 a lot more distrust gimmicky stuff. It's like when you 487 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:02,559 go to a car dealership these days, and you want 488 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:04,880 to buy a car and you say, hey, I want 489 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,519 to pay you cash for that car, and they're like, well, 490 00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:10,559 you actually save money if you get a lease, and 491 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,640 if you finance that lease. What do you mean I 492 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,759 save money because there are kickbacks from the banks that 493 00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:20,200 want those interest loans and the financial institutions that want it, 494 00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:24,119 so in a way, they're providing you a benefit. But remember, 495 00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:27,000 back in the days of real honesty, you could if 496 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,319 you pay cash for carr hekay, what's your best deal? 497 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,920 Low ball offering a cash car for a cash But 498 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,240 it's very different. It's much more gaming now. 499 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: Isn't it. 500 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: The best image of the meaning of Christmas is in 501 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,200 the movie The Miracle on thirty Fourth Street. Alfred's description 502 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:44,920 of the Christmas look on the faces of kids. We 503 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,799 see joy, we see hope in kids, and we adults 504 00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:51,000 are joyful and hopeful. In turn, Christmas recognizes a community 505 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,640 of the joyful and hopeful reflected in the faces of 506 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,440 its members, and this way Christmas prefigures the Christian hope 507 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,359 to one day see the face of God. Knows the 508 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,799 goodness of Christmas by seeing it reflected in the face 509 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:07,279 of children. And so what this article seeks to do, 510 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,039 and I think it does a really good job of this, 511 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,279 is that it combines what Detoke will recognized about the 512 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:17,960 greatness in America and Americans because we aren't Americans. Aren't 513 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,640 we we're Americans, So we look at that a miracle 514 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,359 on thirty fourth Streets. Happy resolution is driven by the 515 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,079 self interest of the judge, the prosecutor, the US Postal workers, 516 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:32,160 and mister Gaily. Nevertheless, self interest alone is insufficient to 517 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,119 explain all the ways in which characters go out of 518 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,799 their way for each other. Americans are, as detokefl says, 519 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:40,359 better than they say, but the doctrinelets Americans appear more 520 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,759 self sufficient than they really are as well. 521 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: And that's the truth about America. 522 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:50,319 Speaker 2: We are community, and we do better when we function 523 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,359 as a community. We are and selfishness is not. It 524 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,440 sounds terrible. Capitalism sounds inherently selfish, but it ultimately benefits 525 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,759 the most people do. What to mention, this is an 526 00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:06,519 interesting uh kind of anniversary as as people are apt 527 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,160 to claim that, I mean that there are people that 528 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,640 try to say earthquakes are caused by climate change. I 529 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,359 mean the new movie, The New miniserials on Netflix called 530 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,680 The Palma, which I spoke about. 531 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 3: The other day. 532 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,039 Speaker 2: At one point in the movie, they we're trying to 533 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:26,759 say that this massive volcanic explosion, that that that rips 534 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:30,000 an island apart and generates history's most you know, largest 535 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,319 tsunami was caused by climate change and more rains hitting 536 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,359 that area, causing erosion which opened the earth to allow 537 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,799 the volcano. Now, luckily that theory got shot down, and 538 00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:42,759 I loved how it is one of the few instances 539 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:46,839 where the scientist in the main scientists in the series says, no, 540 00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:48,720 come back to me when you have some facts, not 541 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:50,920 this stuff that you were just regurgitating because you want 542 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,319 to believe it it was taught to you. 543 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,839 Speaker 3: That isn't true. He pushed back against her in in 544 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,279 the movie. 545 00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: In the series, but it's a it's a European thing, 546 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,640 so maybe there's a chance that I think that's why 547 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,799 I find some of the European and British series even 548 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:06,599 though they infuse a lot of that crap in there too. 549 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,880 But anyway, my point being, it's good to reflect on 550 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:17,200 actual tragedy tragedies because they are instructive and they're useful 551 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:20,480 and they're not full of gobbledegoog. I mean when you 552 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,839 look listen about the wild fires in California, on the 553 00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,440 one hand, you're going to hear news media say, well, 554 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,559 you know, because of climate change, the fires are hotter 555 00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:30,759 and they're worse, And on the other that you don't 556 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,039 hear as much as forestry officials say, hey, we've had 557 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,720 years where we don't burn underbrush where it does build up, 558 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,160 the fires are hotter, and it's a lot of mismanagement 559 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,400 of forestry practices. 560 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: North Carolina has forest fires, but there's. 561 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,799 Speaker 2: A lot of active forestry management in our state that 562 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,440 is remarkable. 563 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,039 Speaker 3: They are regular burns. If you get down to the 564 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:51,000 Green Swamp, you get down. 565 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,319 Speaker 2: The East Alligator Reserve, those areas are they do regular 566 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,400 burns to get rid of a lot of the underbrush, 567 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,960 and fires in many places are necessary to promote future growth. 568 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,279 It's a part of nature. Forest fires have always been 569 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:09,799 a part of nature, so worth knowing. But it's also 570 00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:11,599 instructive to look at actual disasters. 571 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: Twenty years twenty years ago. 572 00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: It's hard to believe this because I remember like it 573 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,880 was yesterday, but there was a horrible earthquake. It was 574 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,599 a nine point one over in the Indonesia Banda I 575 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,680 say area of Indonesia. I probably said that name wrong, 576 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,400 but today I mean so that there were people that 577 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:35,200 gathered on Thursday visiting mass graves in Indonesia's I say province. 578 00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:38,720 Twenty years since that tsunami hit, one of history's worst 579 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,720 natural disasters. And when we think of terms and it's horrible, 580 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:44,519 what happened to North Carolina. You know, one hundreds dead. 581 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:45,759 Speaker 3: I don't know the actual count. 582 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,079 Speaker 2: I don't think we'll know the actual number of dead 583 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680 for a while, but we're getting there. But that, to 584 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,799 put it in perspective, a couple hundred dead is absolutely 585 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:58,599 a tragedy. Any death is due to an accident or 586 00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,160 a weather event or flow, ud fire, a tornado, anything, 587 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:07,839 that tsunami that that after that nine point one magnitude 588 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,079 ginormous earthquake, two hundred and thirty thousand people were killed. 589 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,480 That's that's a staggering number. It's hard to from an 590 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:22,279 American standpoint, due to the way our infrastructure is, the 591 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:24,799 warnings we have, we have. We have earthquake prone areas 592 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,559 on the West Coast. We even had heck, we had 593 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,319 a horrible earthquake in Charleston, South Carolina, about one hundred 594 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,640 and twenty thirty years ago. So there's no part of 595 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640 our country that isn't prone, whether it's tornadic activity in 596 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,759 the plains, whether it's horrific winter events that happened in 597 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:43,599 tornadic outbreaks up there is when the northeast, we have hurricanes, 598 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,599 we have nor'easters, we have fires, we have we have 599 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,440 our every There isn't a place of the planet that 600 00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,880 isn't prone to having some kind of horrific naturally occurring event. 601 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,599 That does not mean it's man made or man caused. 602 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,000 That's a little bit of hubris and a little bit 603 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,039 of falsehood there. Now, the remarkable thing about what's happened 604 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:06,799 since that time. That one grave that they're talking about, 605 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:11,000 fourteen thousand unidentified and unclaimed tsunami victims are buried in 606 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:16,440 that one grave, one grave, fourteen thousand people. More than 607 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680 one hundred and seventy thousand people died in Indonesia alone. 608 00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:22,759 Could you imagine if we had that kind of death. 609 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: So all, let's hope we. 610 00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: Never do in any way, but looking at this not 611 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:33,079 but in addition, looking at this, after this occurred. 612 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,839 Speaker 3: People from all over the world. 613 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,319 Speaker 2: Especially the US donated their time, they donated their money, 614 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:45,519 they donated resources, international donors and organizations. They helped the 615 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,920 region recover. Schools, hospitals, and essential infrastructure that were destroyed 616 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,160 by the disaster have been reconstruction, reconstructed with enhanced strength 617 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,240 and durability. So we learned, we adapt, ensuring better preparedness 618 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,119 for future challenges. We also claimed the lives of over 619 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,680 eight thousand people in Thailand, including many who remain missing. 620 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,920 Nearly four hundred bodies there remain unidentified, unclaimed, but early 621 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400 warning systems have now been installed in the coastal areas 622 00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:13,799 from Africa over to in the Asia area. So we 623 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:17,920 learned from We adapt. That's what we humans do so 624 00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,519 remarkably well, and we've done it here. I mean, you 625 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,119 look at we learned from those. I mean when you 626 00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:29,640 had a Katrina happen, what I marveled that was those 627 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720 people live below sea level. You live below sea level, 628 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,640 a hurricane's coming, You get out of there. 629 00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: You leave it. 630 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,799 Speaker 2: To me, Katrina was not a natural disaster. It was 631 00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,440 a government enhanced disaster. That was bad governance, that was 632 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:50,559 horrific planning, That was that was utterly preventable. What happened 633 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,559 in North Carolina. By and large, the amount of rain 634 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,160 that fell in the short amount of time. 635 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: There was very little. There was warning, but there. 636 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: Was no way to know that how bad it was 637 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:01,640 going to be in the mountains of North Carolina, other 638 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,480 than we do know that four or five, six eight 639 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,960 inches of rain can create problems, and they had twenty 640 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,559 twenty five thirty forty inches of reiin in many places. 641 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: That that is very little. 642 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: You can do a lot about missing fifteen miles of 643 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,079 an interstate, having roads completely wash out, where you have 644 00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:23,720 to get into communities by mules and ATVs. Now, having 645 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,119 said that, what I've seen people do. Friends of mine 646 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,720 that have gone up there to help donate. I've donated, 647 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,480 many of my friends have. WBT has done a lot 648 00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:37,480 to help. That's what to me has been remarkable to watch, 649 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:42,640 not with the government, the government. The stories are so 650 00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,720 too numerous to even cover here about the lack of 651 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,160 the way government has responded to this. There's been a 652 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,920 lot of misinformation, there's been a lot of myth. There's 653 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,799 been a lot of I think honest attempts by government 654 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,559 officials to help, but some misguided ones as well. 655 00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,319 Speaker 3: But we do know that that. 656 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: I was very pleased at a talents Bruce Pine where 657 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,000 people can come they know how to get to a 658 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,480 given place and get supplies. And now we're heading into winter, 659 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:09,839 and let's just not forget about them. And what can 660 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,400 we learn from that? What can we learn to make 661 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,839 things more resilient? We can make them better, and that's 662 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,960 what we should be doing. So as we head into 663 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,799 twenty five, you can be sure about this. 664 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,039 Speaker 3: With hurricanes, I. 665 00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,319 Speaker 2: Always tell me I lived down at the coast, it's 666 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,400 not a matter of if we're going to have another hurricane. 667 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: It's a matter of when. 668 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,079 Speaker 2: We've dodged so many bullets in the past twenty five years, 669 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,279 ever since ninety eight, ninety seven, niney eight, those horrible ones. 670 00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:35,079 We've had some, but nothing like we did with Floyd 671 00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,839 and Frand and those a long time ago. But it's 672 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,559 gonna happen again. And the beauty of this one I 673 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:43,519 ride around down the coast is I've seen structural changes 674 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,160 in the way things are built. I've seen people that 675 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,440 have built even concrete houses, and these concrete houses withstand 676 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,279 astounding forces of nature. But we know and it'll happen again, 677 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000 and it doesn't mean I think we look for reasons 678 00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:01,640 to blame. So you look at you say, well, it 679 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,319 must have been because I drove that suv, that that 680 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,800 storm was three miles an hour faster or more powerful 681 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,320 than it was or would have been. And there's really 682 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,760 no way to discern if that is true, because you 683 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,440 can have a year we were below activity overall, but 684 00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:21,559 when you have a horrible storm, it's easier to blame 685 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,519 something than to say that's just the raw power of nature. 686 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,559 It's hard for us to accept. If Yellowstone were to blow, 687 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,639 if that caldera were to explode, there would be nothing 688 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,320 that rivals at going back toward dinosaur times. It would 689 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,400 be nothing like It would make Pompeii look like a 690 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,360 walk in the park. It would fundamentally alter this country forever. 691 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,360 I don't even know what this country would look like 692 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,639 after that. The northern hemisphere, it would be it would 693 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,440 be winter in July. That that's just and we wouldn't 694 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,920 be able to blame climate change on that. But would 695 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,159 people try to. I'm sure somebody would. A John Carrey, 696 00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,400 an al Gore, and the rest of the acolytes and 697 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960 bishops and priests in the Church of climate Change would 698 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 probably try to do that, but nature is just cruel. 699 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,199 It's unrelenting, and you can't. The other thing, you don't 700 00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:12,280 blame God for these you can. I think God turned 701 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,920 over the planet. This is me and I'm going to 702 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,039 irritate some people in the audience. You don't pray. If 703 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:18,800 you pray for people not to get hurt and hurcane, 704 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,440 that's an admirable thing. But what if it turns and 705 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,559 it hits other people? Did those people get Oh? This 706 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,840 is just sacrilege. What I'm saying is the planet. 707 00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 3: Is a wild and unforgiving place. 708 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: All right. 709 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,199 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 710 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,280 for listening. I could not do the show without your 711 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,079 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 712 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,920 the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too 713 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,639 and tell them you heard it here. 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