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transfer portal it can be had for good and evil, right,
the good, the bad, the ugly of it. Currently b
YU has nine players that are leaving Provo are at
least searching for a new home via the portal. Let
me list them off and let me get your reaction.
Ronald the three Man Weaver, three stars, Sioni Hinato offensive line,
offensive tackle, Sanni Tuala defensive line, three star, Tucker kellerher
tight end, three star, Ikinacio Tupo offensive tackle, three star
le Mason Waller, the third high level three star wide
receiver in the portal, McKay Hillstead three star quarterback, Marcus
McKenzie cornerback, three star, Jake Griffin offensive tackle, three star,
Dominique McKenzie, wide receiver, three star, Your thoughts, your reactions,
Ronald the three Man Weaver, Which one hurts you the most?
Speaker 4: And why I think the le Mason Waller one hurts
you the most?
Speaker 5: Look you talk about the guy that was supposed to
be what we heard just the next Darius Lasher, of
that playmaking, big cat catch passing ability and to go
up and get contested catches. I know it was a
little dinged up, you know, a little hurt. He got
hurt in camp. Those things happen. That's a part of
the game. There's attrition, So that one probably hurts the
most because with what's coming in next year, you would
have want to see le Mason take that jump. Right,
Parker Kingston is the wide receiver number one right year.
But outside of that, you're losing Carson Ryan, he's out
of eligibility. You're losing Chase Roberts right now, l J
and Martin. You know, from the rumors that we heard,
Ben it sounds like he, you know, potentially's coming back.
Speaker 4: So you're third.
Speaker 5: You know, next top pass catcher is going to be
back with you in the backfield.
Speaker 4: But outside of that, Ben, it's tough. You're taking a
hit a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I do think who you have coming in can help,
and Legend Glask I do think Terrence Sarion can. I
do think you know, the Pula twin, the pulla twin
can help, but you need a guy to be that
guy to offset. That's so Jojo Phillis. You don't know
what's gonna happen with him, right, So there's still that
question mark, So I think that one hurts so depth wise,
you never want to lose depth, which leads me to
the next one of the McKenzie twins. Dad played that
one That one hurts to see because you know, Marcus
was phenomenal. I know he had his fair share of
getting nicked up at times, but he was a great gunner,
took people out.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: That dude was phenomenal. A dom had some speed. You
can't beat speeding college athletics. So those probably hurt le
Mason and the McKenzie twins just because of the legacy
and what I think they did provide. But look, at
the end of the day, Ben, we all know that
players are going elsewhere because of playing time, and you
know you're already maybe a step back, and they're bringing
in guys they expect to play, and you have to
compete with those guys coming in, not guys that they're
gonna bring in with the port. I'm talking about recruits,
high school recruits, So you leave for playing time. So
I look, at the end of the day, I want
everybody to play. That's why they come to college bins
to get pt But those hurt the most. Answer your
question le Mason Waller, and then I'm gonna and this
is right now from what we know, Lemson Waller hurts
the most, and then the McKenzie twins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look all applying on this, I feel like as
I look through the talent the ability of these guys,
and I look at the position groups as well, the
position the position electrician, you have three offensive tackles that
are in the portal right now. That means BYU is
going out and acquiring some offensive tackle talent, right because
these guys feel like they probably aren't going to play.
They're not gonna get a shot, They're not gonna have
a chance.
Speaker 2: And uh I know.
Speaker 3: Ikinashio and Jake, you know they they they were gonna
be rotational.
Speaker 2: Guys, okay at best.
Speaker 3: So Billie's looking for higher level talent than what they have.
Both all three of these guys had pretty good offer sheets,
not too bad, I'd say. I'd say Ikinasio maybe had
the best offer sheet, but Jake is right there too.
Uhano was more, I want to say, he was more
of a kind of an under the radar recruit. Uh
Byu Idaho, Northern Arizona, Southern Utah. We Restate were his
offers so in western Illinois. So I wouldn't say that's
the most robust offer sheet, right, Like I think everyone
would agree with me on that one. Whereas Iconasio Tupo,
he had, I want to say, some P four offers Yep, BYU, Arizona, Utah, Washington,
Arizona State, cal Tennessee, Oregon State, San Jose State, Washington State,
Colorado State, Nevada, Utah State. So you can make an
argument it's like, hey man, we're you know, he's a
young pup, you know what I mean. Like he was
a part of the twenty twenty four class. It's not
like he's had a whole lot of time to develop.
He could end up being a pretty good football player.
Jake Griffin's the oldest out of the bunch. He was
a part of that. I believe the was it the
two thousand, it was the twenty twenty class, and then
he got back from this mission in twenty twenty two,
twenty twenty three. But he had offers from BYU, Washington State, Arizona,
Oregon State, Indiana with the prior staff. Okay, coming out
of high school San Diego State, Tulane, Utah State, UCLA
was interested and he had Northern Arizona, Northern Colorado, South
Dakota state.
Speaker 2: We were state. So anyways, if you.
Speaker 3: Just go off of offers with the office tackle, you
may say that hey, Iconashio Tupo, that's that's a loss,
because he could end up being pretty gosh dang good
for the Cougars down the line as far as immediate
impact players, and like with like twitch, I think you're right.
I think le Mason Waller had the most upside of potential.
If we go back and we watched like highlights of
fall camp, la Mason was making catches, La Mason was
making plays. I think as far as upside of potential,
le Mason as a possession receiver was going to be
that guy that dude, highest rated, best offer sheet, highest potential.
You have to wonder why it just didn't work out
for him. Wanted more playing time, initially wanted to be involved.
Like I will say, the top end speed may be
the knock on le Mason. Are we a possession based
wide receiving team anymore?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And if you are gonna be possession wide receiver, you
gotta be what six', four six' Five The, reggie Friscinet The, chase,
roberts right you gotta be.
Speaker 2: Big body if you're six foot one, or below.
Speaker 3: You Gotta Be. Cody hagen you Gotta Be. Parker kingston
you gotta be running at. Ten five you gotta be running.
Ten four that's where, we're going guys in the, big
twelve that's where we're going with the power, for structure and.
That's hard it's a tough pill. To swallow the other
GUY that i Think is loki a. TOUGH loss i
Really Like. Sonny tuala he had a pretty good offer
sheet coming Out of juco AS, Well Byu, Can, Houston.
Utah washington guy's, a freak. Freak athlete so those are
the guys that kind of hurt me the most In
this now be of, good cheer take heart because two
players are coming. To Town walker lions has been prognosticated
a four star tight END from usc to COME to
BYU and b that featured why. Tight End Also leona Lafowl,
from texas a four. Star, linebacker okay so what do
you do with, you know these these guys that are
Leaving On carson, Ryan, graduating okay moving on TO. The
Nfl jack kelly moving on TO. The nfl still up
in the, Areas Too. Isaiah glasker what's going On With?
Isaiah glasker is he coming BACK? To byu is he
looking to sec or big ten money right now to
be The turn he hasn't made His, commitment no.
Speaker 2: Just yet that.
Speaker 3: Negotiation continues so when you see those two, players though COMING,
to byu what's, Your reaction ronald the three man wea
were two four stars Coming. To brigham that's gotta boost
up your spirits despite the.
Speaker 2: The loss is the attrition that you're experiencing at?
Speaker 5: The, portal look we were at, The, Point ben that
is just that's today and age we live in is
you're going to every single year coaches should be trying
to up. Their position and this is no knock On,
even bear but even you should be bringing in younger
talent behind him that. Can develop that's why, you know
Look at ryder coming In that that's just the way
it goes at. All Positions, devon ecka you want to
always make sure're bringing in younger talent that can come
in that can play impact right away along with.
Speaker 4: The mixture of with.
Speaker 5: Some transfers you should especially in positions of. Needs needs Next,
here ben You Lost. Jack kelly you can't bring in
a guy you know unless he's gonna be the best
lineback in. The country and, then again is he going
To Be yu. Maybe not you can't bring in a, Guy,
that okay he's gonna be. Your starter you have have
an impact player. Right away and these are two positions.
Of Needs walker LIONS at byu would be the flex
tight end, impact need pass catching. Tight end you Don't Have. Carson,
ryant Now if carson had, another year You. Bring walker,
That helps but look in your recruiting class for the
tight ends for the twenty twenty six and twenty seven class.
Are phenomenal you just have to wait for them to.
Get here but you need a guy right now that
can hold it down for the next two to.
Speaker 4: Three years That Is.
Speaker 5: Walker lyons he, does THAT so i like that he
would be he would be coming in and be able
to do that as he's. Crystal bald AND then i
like You know Leoni. AND lafou i think a guy
that can give you the jack You, know kelly And
Maybe Isaiah glaster Mix if ig comes back, or not
that would. Help too but then you also it's just
boosting Up because Nucy tom apea Is Going tom mapayo
is going to be the NEXT say i, correct myself
it's going to be the next Version Of Jack Kelly.
Brandon gurney he has been declared. ABOUT that i buy.
That take i'm jumping on board. With It how noosey
is able to get to the quarterback and his speed
and how violent he is and he's that he's running
it back now been you need leone in. This defense
that just helped you need more. Linebacker depth you should
be upgrading get. That position, so yes love that these
two would Be In. Cougar blue that would impact bou.
RIGHT away i believe they're both, are starters two deep
guys that can help you Win a big. Twelve title
and that Was the that's what. We saw that was
the issue in the. Title game it wasn't necessarily that
by you Couldn't Match texas tech blow for blow is the.
Little depth it was Maybe the leoni player of. The
walk you were missing a few key guys that you.
WERE missing i think these guys add to that, for
sure because when you think Of What texas tech just
did and adding a Guy Like brendan soresby to their
roster on what. They have you need to go get
a guy that can take your program to the, next
level and both of these players do that offensively and
on the defensive side of.
Speaker 4: The BALL so i.
Speaker 5: LOVE that i hope. IT'S more I hope byu adds.
ANOTHER linebacker i hope they have more defensive, you. Know
lineman you always need, depth there Especially What texas tech.
Is doing they're lily rebuilding the. Defensive line ben if
you've seen who they have that, have committed. It's ridiculous
AND then i would love to see the, cornerback room,
you know especially the nickel position get some DEPTH because
i think that position struggled a little bit. THIS year
i know there were some, health ISSUES but i like
the two guys, Coming in walker and, You know leone
would make a big IMPACT and i think they can
be all big twelve players have been next year in
their first SEASON.
Speaker 3: At byu Speaking of nichols and transfer, Portal conversations transfer
portal products, And prospects utah Transfer Cornerback smith snowden has
a busy.
Speaker 2: Week Scheduled Per blair angulo of two For, Seven.
Speaker 3: Sports he's got Stops, IN, Colorado, Byu, michigan Georgia and
oregon plan buffs get the first Look. On monday you have,
to WONDER can byu compete with the, big Dogs.
Speaker 2: Right, Michigan. Georgia oregon.
Speaker 3: Does he want to? Stay home does he want to
stay and keep it in. The family there was Rumblings
That smith snowden was going to take his talents to
the portal.
Speaker 2: LAST season byu was a big player.
Speaker 3: In that That's When jay hill and well They remember
gennaro is essentially the Godfather Of. Smith snowden and FOR
b yu to win out here going Against, J, Hill,
Gennaro Michigan, kyle whittingham that would.
Speaker 2: Be Amazing now I'm leaning.
Speaker 3: MICHIGAN here I mean I'm leaning michigan here as the most.
Likely testination but if anyone could, convince that, you Know
Convinced smith snowden And this notton family to keep it,
in provo it Could Be Ga. Gary Anderson, gary anderson
a legendary coach of, the state is your senior analyst for.
The defense you just have to wonder who's going to
be that next cornerbacks coach FOR The byu cougar. Football
team it does LOOK like i put out a few
targets tongue. IN cheek, i, said hey If If dewey gray,
wants it he's, got it shout out The. Pastor gray
but most likely you're looking at guys Like To Mario Warren.
DEVONTE cross i think you should take, a long hard
Look At wesley johnson or if you can retain him
as as, an analyst that would be huge in order
To retain, Schmev Too, evan johnson that would be a
great acquisition retention Plan. For smev but you could also
attract the Lights Of. Smith, snowden right who's going to
be coaching up those? Nickel cornerbacks And Does?
Speaker 4: Smith snowden THEN can i throw a guy's name?
Speaker 5: Out, there yeah, of course a guy that you know
maybe is behind, the scenes, and look the besign the
scenes is just. As Important jared bledsoe Talking About, justin
anderson And just anderson's done a great job behind. The
scenes someone that Works with justin a NAME that i
want to throw out the, you know hopefully at least
you know is able to sit down and they talk.
To Him As, BRANDON brownley I think i think your
teammate is a good, football player.
Speaker 4: YOU know i know he's.
Speaker 5: Still coach the DB's on the side and works. Him
out that's another guy being the director of a rooting
right now For. B yu i, would like, you know
to see them. Sit down that's the guy they could.
BRING in I think brandon would be good.
Speaker 4: As, well.
Speaker 3: BEASY former bayu cornerback currently heading up the recruiting Department With.
Speaker 2: Justin anderson that could be a. Great pickup one. Hundred.
Percent uh it's a little bit different than what he's.
Speaker 3: Been doing but he's coached in, the past he's got
a resume for he's been.
Speaker 2: A baller he's gonna he's gonna he canna be a.
GREAT recruiter I.
Speaker 3: LOVE beazy i think that would be a you gotta
look long and hard. At it other Guys that, i've
MENTIONED so i Got To Mario Warren, Devonte cross DeVante's former. Virginia,
cornerback yeah it Was In, new mexico g And Current
utah tech. Cornerbacks Coach, brian MITCHELL former ba, cornerbacks COACH
former byu Quarterbacks coach uh Uh and UH an nfl,
defensive BACK Current nc state Cornerbacks Coach, dwayne WALKER former byu,
cornerbacks COACH, former Dc Current arizona. State Analyst, wesley JOHNSON
current BYU g a for c for. The cornerbacks Charles
Mac utah state defensive. Back Coach, preston HADLEY former bya,
defensive back former, safeties Coach Current northern. Colorado Coach zach
erickson snow college. Head coach he's A former byu defensive
back and. Wide Receiver, rob DANIEL former, BYU Cornerback nfl
rob DANBEL experience ga student. Assistant background you mean You've
Heard rob daniel spoken about from, these uh These bau cougar,
football players the cornerbacks.
Speaker 2: And safeties They Love.
Speaker 5: Rob daniel they've been declared of. ABOUT it i MEAN
and I when i say, DECLARED it i mean that
every YOU. And i and we're very strategic who what.
We do we started off with bas dbs because we
felt like that was one of the most important rooms
going into. The Season, Jonathan Cabea, Rob, Daniels Tree Alexander
robb dan, just hey, Go Down, Lis Smith. ROB dale i, was,
Like Man tommy Prast.
Speaker 2: You, rob.
Speaker 4: Dale man So Every rob daniel.
Speaker 5: Was a name that just kept coming up, so look
maybe that's THE guy I If.
Speaker 4: I'm kialanie this.
Speaker 5: Is a difficult decision, BECAUSE look i don't want to,
say this And don't i'm not trying to Take away
ben from anybody in the. Coaching staff you know HOW
much i support them and the LOVE that. I have
the cornerback's position higher is going to be more important
than the defensive. Coordinator position. IT is I just i
believe it's going to be the way it's going to.
Affect recruiting in the IMPACT of byu losing gen at,
DOUBLE minority i truly believe that there's something different in
what you. Have here that is one of the toughest
positions recruited in all of college football and toughest to
Recruit In provo UTAH. At byu so that is a.
Critical HIRE but I. Trust klanne he's got a. Great Network,
but ben that is a. Tough one and THAT'S why
i agree. With you if you can get the likes
of this kid that Was at utah name, you know the, Last,
name snowden who probably is gonna end Up, in michigan
THAT'S what i would. Likely think, you know it's gonna
be really tough he's the number three cornerback in. The
portal that's gonna be tough to. Beat out, number fifth fiftieth. Overall,
prospect yeah That's got big ten ridden all. Over it
but if you're somehow able to, do It If gary
anderson or whoever this defensive crew is behind, the scenes
if you Can bring smith home and, do that that,
helps you especially because there's some Struggles. At nickel but
THAT'S why i said this position is crucial because if
you lose a Guy like smith who is in your
backyard and you already lost in the first time and
he Went, to utah you got to get, That, right
BEN because i felt like they started to turn the
tides the right Way with jay And with gennaro and
now They're. At michigan so you need to make sure
that you get that higher locked in the right way
because that next guy that comes in needs to pick
up right where they left off and elevate.
Speaker 3: The, Program Yeah eddie hecker needs To Be. Eddie, Hecker
yeah i'd reach Out To, mike Davis former boa, DEFENSIVE
back nfl. Defensive back maybe he would be a. Great
guy tim mctiers in the State, of utah We've had
tim on, the Show former boa. Defensive back he's got
college football, coaching experience currently Coaching At Orum high school
right down. The street you may want to Look At,
dray Snowden Former utah State And weaver. State quarnerback he's
a part Of The alpha recruits. Coaching staff he's the
Brother Of. Smith snowden if You Bring dray snowden on
is maybe an analyst or a, graduate assystem maybe you'd
be interested. In that maybe you get THERE. At Byu
brandon bradley needs to. Be considered What About? Dewey gray
shout Out To dewey gray. As well so that's your
coaching staff. Cornerback, roster now some people, are, Like Hey
brian mitchell would, Be Great, Damorio Warren. Rob daniel we
got a lot of people chiming in, on IT and
i don't know if anyone's added any other players or
any other former players or coaches on the LIST that,
i provided but. Chime in want to hear from you
guys out There In. Cougar country do you have? A
favorite tell? Me why b au fans chiming in story
time says It'll. Be warren but if it's, not him
Would Love. Rob daniel he's a. True technician, go Koog Says.
Brian mitchell. Final Answer david, Woolsey, says oh there are
some good choices, In, there coach she left some big shoes.
To Fill pierre, DELECTO says i don't know any of
them well enough, to VOTE but i just watch an
Interview with TOMORROW and i really. Liked Him malice mallum
loved that there are so many. QUALIFIED choices kJ Says
Preston Hadley. Kyler Johnson alan, daniels says regardless, of who
how about a double minority at a. Young, person, UH
yeah i think that's where we're kind of going down
the path of that. We have, you know it doesn't
have to be Like For Insan brandon bradley's a member
Of the Church Of jesus Christ Of, latter states but
He's from He's, from Florida. From Tallahassee if i'm. Not
mistaken he he Played With antonio cromarty in. High school
like he's got connections.
Speaker 2: Out.
Speaker 3: There uh he could be a really good pick up
for FOR b a because he could speak to THE.
Non lds he was a convert AND. The lds he
can as as as a brother similar, To. YOU ronnie,
I mean i think you'd be a good. Good record
oh you KNOW what.
Speaker 2: I mean when you.
Speaker 4: Said that my wife just. Texting me she's listening to.
The show, she says what? About Us, Said, RONIE no.
Speaker 3: I don't i don't want you to leave, Me here but,
like you you want to go get into.
Speaker 5: Some, recruiting, no, look, look, look, Look look i'm not
gonna lie been recruiting to be able to talk and
to be able to give.
Speaker 4: THAT pitch i can give. THAT pitch i.
Speaker 5: Really, Can't Look i'm i'm. A PERSON i i don't
mind putting myself out there on. My story you can
benefit very POSITIVELY, at BA and i FEEL like i
was one of THOSE people I thought i had. Good
relationships EVERY time i step back on, the campus there's
not a teacher or staff MEMBER that i haven't interacted
WITH that i don't. Talk with, you KNOW when i see,
you know the the, communication staffs it. Is Great, travis
hanson when you, see him my, former professors. It's great,
like yeah, SO look i could pitch that. In, recruiting
uh but, you, know LOOK if i enter, the PORTAL
hopefully i can Make that brendan sores be. Type money
THAT'S all i got, To, say ben because he's making
More Than shader sanders. Rookie contract so THAT'S all i
have to say.
Speaker 3: On That aaron, Brady Says Rob Daniel. WESLEY johnson I
Think wesley johnson is an interesting pool here with this
as he he's, uh uh, you know he's got some.
Coaching background he's In THE angelus ga, Right now so
we'll see how that. Plays Out preston Hadley To, MARIO
cross a lot of people chopping, in here plenty of good.
Speaker 2: Options here whoever it.
Speaker 3: Is biggest, john stays there's four likes on, that one
so people understand just How Good wesley. Johnson's BEEN and
i love. HIS positivity i don't know how he uses
as a coach is he hasn't coached, me Up but
i've heard great things. About him so we'll see how it. Plays.
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Speaker 2: Life jt how?
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a MUTE but i. AM not i am, doing great,
My guy how? Are you i'm?
Speaker 3: Doing, awesome man much love to you and? Your fam How?
Was christmas How Was new?
Speaker 6: Year's good kirie's, over here the boys. Over here she's
waving to have me tell, You HELLO and i don't
KNOW if. I will i don't KNOW if i will tell,
you That but i'll can tell. You this it definitely,
didn't like, You Know gingerbread house. NUMBER eleven i can tell, You, that.
Speaker 3: No did you really like Ginger bread? House eleven or
are you certain is that what? She liked or is
that what you guys? Liked her you guys just you
knew that one.
Speaker 6: WAS mine i. DIDN'T know I mean i knew it
was YOURS after i tweeted at YOU or i texted
you or whatever. It was AND then i, was, like oh,
geez here we can't go with. This one. That's his
AND so i gotta tell you be that was. My
favorite that was. Pretty, good, HEY man.
Speaker 2: I like i try. Really, hard man you, GOTTA realize,
I mean i'm going against some creative ladies in, that.
Group man, and uh And.
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demographic you put like the y up on the on.
The roof it's a it's a competitive it's a competitive
critle crital, gingerbread, competition.
Speaker 6: Man HEY and i can TELL you I actually i
Actually told kirie. ABOUT it i, Was, like uh when is.
Speaker 7: He gonna do Its? Best christmas, i'm like what is?
Speaker 6: Happening here and SO when i finally, Saw it, i'm,
LIKE oh i was waiting for this, and SO but
i have, To, say ben, you KNOW since i am
now a voting member me and we've are, you know
the original founding voting members Of the creek Of The Critical,
gingerbread house you need to. Do pictures you can, do
video because that takes too much of. MY time i
need you to post pictures of each house so it
makes it easier on. The voting on, the, VOTING folks.
Speaker 4: I voted for eleven. As well been just so, YOU
know i don't know it.
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I just i didn't know yours, was ELEVEN but i voted.
Speaker 4: For It check BROOKS. AND dms, i, said, OOH eleven i.
Speaker 2: LIKE eleven. I, didn't, Hey man i'll do better.
Speaker 3: Next year, You know i'm, still learning, you know how
to how to post the, you know the the, different houses.
Et Cetera so i'll do better. Next, year man it's a,
new year it's a. New me i'll be better.
Speaker 6: NEXT.
Speaker 3: Year, Jg well i'll tell. You what this bou basketball
team got their first road Win In big. Twelve play
they still, LOOK like, i mean a second. Half, team
uh they always. Make adjustments, they're gritty. The tenacious they
went on, the road they got a double digit. With
victory what did you make of the of the Win Over?
Kansas state what did?
Speaker 6: You like SO what i liked is they didn't play
particularly well and it wasn't a. Pretty Game richie shaga,
Bull poorly Mahilo file dowal though he finally made, A
three aj wasn't very used to and weave YOUR and
i actually the three of us are actually going back
and forth doing. A game aj took minute to get
used to big, twelve repfing but none oftheless. Day one,
right then one of the reasons why you have me
on the program is because one of THE success i
Had at buyu because of my, professional career obviously because,
we're closed And so i'll relate to back in when
we WERE at, buyu together if you actually stopped to think,
about it THEN when i, was there we never lost
To The, colorado state To the TCUs And the wyomings and,
you know and At The. Air, forces now WHY am
i Saying This Because kansas state is not a fower
house and it hasn't been for a few, years Now
and i'm not in, no way shape Or form, i'm relating,
You Know kansas State To colorado State. Or wyoming But
what i'm saying is they are not the, household names,
you know the top ten teams That that Houston and
Arizona And iowa. State are AND so byu going there
and taking care of business on, the road, you know
a game that they absolutely needed to win have chances
to win. The conference he just got a.
Speaker 7: Job done it, wasn't pretty it, wasn't great it wasn't.
Speaker 6: Very effective but they do noetheless. Did it and so
that's my favorite thing of that game is that they
got the. Job done they got.
Speaker 3: It done it, wasn't pretty it was. Beautifully ugly but,
THIS team, i mean they. DEFENDED well I mean RONALD
and i were, discussing it Like Limiting kansas state TO
hitting i think there it was their lowest three point
makes on. THE season i thought that was impressive on their.
Home court that was maybe the most impressive stat of.
THE day i guess you can Compare to kebricada's like,
sixteen rebounds, but man what an impressive.
Speaker 2: DEFENSIVE effort i lose to you guys still there that
we still GOT.
Speaker 6: You, jt, Yes, SIR sorry i don't know. What happened
this Is where keba makes a huge difference and So, does, Beatle,
right abdullah is the fact that they are able to
influence and and change shots and impact the defensive end
and defensive rebounding and block shots and and. So on
they are a. Big, presence now, you know no Disrespect,
to kadeem but there's a difference between you having a
six seven and a half, GUY there i guess can
jump out of the gym and big wingspan against having
a six stand guy there that has just as big
it's not a bigger wing a bigger wingspan and is
a massive. Inside presence and so, you Know and i'm
going to talk about This on wednesday on the pregame
show actually. ABOUT defense a couple of the blocks that
those guys had actually really changed the game and IMPACTED
b yu in a very. Positive way AND so i
couldn't agree more with you.
Speaker 7: On defense, and, again right IF b yu can then.
Speaker 6: You know just looking at their schedule a little quick
like obviously not, looking ahead but if they can Go
to utah and then when they go to, you know
when they Go To, west virginia they Go, to cincinnati
if they can take care of those games on, THE
road i have a hard time thinking then that you
know they're going to drop, you know some of these
other games you know we've if you're looking At the
i'm looking at the schedule, right Now, Mister weaver and
so as we look at all of this, RIGHT now
i have a hard time thinking that some of these
home games, you know are not gonna go B Y.
U a and then you can give yourself some breeding
room so that, you know an eventual loss at, that
stack an eventual loss at innsas you Know at arizona
that can happen.
Speaker 3: As, well yeah you need a little bit of, a
buffer a little bit of, a booye, no doubt because
you're not gonna be perfect. This season uh, AND uh
i can't wait to see what Happens in big twelve Play.
This Uh This aja bonster is leading the the THE
N C double a right now. IN scoring i don't
know if that's a surprise, to Anybody But, CARLOS boozer,
i think is right there at. Number two how would
you evaluate the scoring ability of aj to bonds through
essentially almost like the first half, the season now pretty much.
Speaker 6: Finished Up oh I'm so i'm actually surprised that he's
scoring as much as, he is not because he's. Not
capable i'm just, surprised that, you know it is the
way it is. Right NOW did i THINK that aj
was going to have to put On the superman CAPE
for biu to be? Just good. Absolutely NOT did i
think he was going to probably have, to play, you
know some type of a role like A green lantern.
Or WHATEVER definitely i think not in my wildest DREAMS
that i think he was going to have to often
be The Entire justice league And the avengers altogether. By
himself but yet that's the reality that we, live. In right.
YOU know aj has often played the Role, of batman
the Role. OF superman a lot of times he played
the role of both of them, by himself AND so
i am pretty surprised that he is scoring. As Much, but,
BEN like i would love to hear, from you right because,
You know i'm a big basketball guy in comparison, to me,
you're not but as more of, A fan ben than
you are a sports. Radio guy doesn't it Feel like
aj is just scoring, So effortlessly like it doesn't feel
like he, Is, forcing like what are your thoughts? On?
Speaker 2: THAT dude i think he's he's just a very.
Speaker 3: Creative Score like i've never seen as polished a score
into so. Many, ways obviously, he's athletic he's dynamic enough
to get to the rim as much as he probably.
Wants to and, he's physical like for being so like
slight LIKE he's, i mean he's not like really thick.
And robust he's not Like A. Lebron bill he looks
like he, YOU know, i mean He's Not, lee kamard but.
He's pretty he's, pretty spelt, you know he's. Pretty thin
but he's just a creative score and he's got a silky.
SMOOTH touch i love how creative he isn't scoring and
you rarely find uh polished scores like him in.
Speaker 2: College BASKETBALL and i agree with what.
Speaker 6: YOU'RE saying i think that's a perfect way to. Say
it he's a Very polished aside from just the top
five saying that, he's efficient he's a very. Polished score
there's no. Four shots everything is within. The rhythm and
one of my Favorite, THINGS ben i don't know if,
you notice but when he gets pretty pissed off that
someone is going to be, you know just kind of reaching.
And reaching he actually lowers his like he gets, super
low like, you know like they used to call they
used To call jordan the. Black CAT but aj gets
down like a black cat and lowers his shoulder and
good Luck and god blessed whoever is in. His way
and so it's that, to mean to, your point that's
a great way to. Put it he's a very he's a,
very efficient very. Polished scorer, you know the Comparisons To,
team act, you know are, still there but he is
he is having to be so much of a, ball
handler so much of a point GUARD that i, maintained that,
you know like in a in, a vacuum there's a
very good chance that he Could, be penny NOT. Only
tmac but, you, KNOW again i don't know if we're
ever going to. SEE him i have a question, For,
You ben are we gonna See another jimmer before we SEE?
Another aj or do we SEE another aj before we See?
Another jimmer great.
Speaker 3: QUESTION question, i, mean GEEZ like I, Mean AJ like
i want to, believe that like that THERE'S another aj, out,
there right BUT like i really don't think that. They're
there is like like these premiere FIRST overall nba draft,
Pick TALENTS like, i mean once upon, a Time, b
y you Got A, sean, bradley right you KNOW what?
I mean that he if he would have played one
year and then went TO, the nba he probably would
have been. First, overall right HE was i think number.
Two overall but he's a, big man right in a big.
Speaker 2: Man era.
Speaker 3: Jimmer for dad obviously a top ten, pick guard more
of a shooting guard maybe than a point guard for
a number of. Different reasons so kind of a tweeer
but not, you know his his defending ability where was
was also kind of a.
Speaker 2: A criticism that. He sustained but.
Speaker 3: Like in, COLLEGE basketball i want to, say that b
why you can maybe Find? Another, gimmer right like would
could if This was? RICHIE'S team i think of it, this,
way like if This was, richie's team could he Have
a gimmer? Like season you KNOW what? I mean could
he as a primary? Ball handler can he be that
Guy Like? Kyle Collinsworth If kyle collinsworth had a great
three point shot Akin?
Speaker 2: To richie, you know could he have.
Speaker 3: Been A Naysmith Award wooden, award winner you KNOW what?
I MEAN like i want to say that by you
can get another gymmer, before that get ANOTHER.
Speaker 2: A j That's what.
Speaker 3: I'm saying That's what i'm going With as i'm thinking
about this. A career disagree.
Speaker 2: WITH me i just it's so hard to, find, Ajs, dude.
Speaker 6: Well so, you know to, BE fair i think it's
gonna be, hard, again right there's the beauty. Of it
you can just, you know ask questions that, are irrelevant,
you know, but like, for sure, for short we are
never going to Find Another denny age that plays AT
b yu while also, you know patting three hundred FOR an, mlb, Team, right.
Speaker 2: No no and so.
Speaker 6: And SO but i think that makes you wonder Because
like jimmer is the greatest SCORER in, byu, history Right
obviously tyler has, the record but we know The Way jim.
ERMANIA was i just, don't, Know MAN like i LOOKED
at i Look, at JIMMER and i look at like
everything that. He accomplished could there be? ANOTHER one i, Don't,
know like could there be ANOTHER?
Speaker 3: A j?
Speaker 2: You KNOW like i don't, Know either like aj COMING.
Speaker 3: TO byu i think it's more far fetched than trying
to Find it Danny Or Jim er richie or con
you KNOW what, I mean like you look at some.
Speaker 2: The best, you Know what i'm saying, is sorry?
Speaker 6: Is it.
Speaker 7: Is it fact to have another number one number.
Speaker 6: One ring get in a country COMES? To byu is that?
Far fetched?
Speaker 2: YOU know i, don't, KNOW man.
Speaker 3: I was i was discussing something With About michael smith.
For Instance michael, smith, PHENOMENAL right i mean just you.
Speaker 2: Talk about some of.
Speaker 3: The best so he's one of the, most underrated uh
you know in, my, opinion uh, you know by. Basketball,
Players EVER so i, don't know, you Know a kresme
chose like where would? You where Where would krasimir go
this day? And age, you know with his his skill
set and things of. That NATURE so i think it's
really hard to bring in a FIRST overall nba draft
pick to B y U and aj is just unique
in that regard, because culture he loves, b yu He,
loves provo and you don't necessarily, get that especially in
a one. And done we're not a one and. Done
university we've, never. That right we've been more of a,
developmental university a, get old stay. Old university but that's
why we have THE most ncaa tournaments Without a final
four appearance because we have a, get old stay old
roster that can't get past the six the.
Speaker 2: Sweet, sixteen.
Speaker 6: YEAH and, i think, you know there's, a possibility a
very high likelihood that that stopped. This year and, SO
yeah i think we're all hoping, for That right, AND
so i. DON'T know i think this team is exciting.
TO watch i, You know i'm happy that things are
going the way. They're going, you know the Win on Saturday.
Speaker 7: Against, kansas state, to me proves one thing that this team.
Can win, you know games on.
Speaker 6: The road Win the big twelve. Is difficult winning on
the road is twice. As difficult, you know looking at
them at, the schedule let me just take a look
at it. Real quick, you Know if uyu is able
to go Into The texas, tech game, you Know, in
lubbock and they, are, one, two, three four and they
are four and zero low, and behold if they win
that Game at, Texas deck i'll, say, this man if
they win that Game, at TEXAS dec i think they're winning. The.
Speaker 3: Conference yeah let me ask a QUESTION that i let
me ask. YOU this i asked this Question. To, ronnie
look sports is entertainment, TO me i, love it like
that's why we have. OUR show i want to, see,
WINS obviously i want to. SEE championships i want to see.
It all but, to me it's like game in. Day
out what type of BALL am? I watching what type
of PLAYERS am? I watching, to you who's the most entertaining?
To watch is it aj to just watch? Him play Is?
It kaba the form and fashion which? He rebounds, you
know his double he's a double? Double machine is It
The richie saunders way of of of of? Basketball, life,
offensively defensively, high motor, the headband, you know the.
Speaker 2: There's swagger there's. Get up is it?
Speaker 3: Rob right the third just the quick mongoose, like reaction
like when he decides to take, you off the bounce he's,
getting baya the, pump fakes the the the adjustments in,
the key all. Those things like who's your favorite player
to watch on the squad?
Speaker 2: AND why.
Speaker 6: I would probably say it's A j and that's because
again to, your point, you know like that's a once
in a. Generation, player yeah you KNOW what? I mean
like that truly is once in a. Generation player and
so like the way that you handle THAT is i
watch it in disbelief and, you know Especially when i'm,
Down There we've i'm gonna be down There. On wednesday
we've got to hook.
Speaker 2: It up.
Speaker 6: YOU know i don't think we have a halftime show
because It's on it's on one of the, major networks
And so i'm gonna come and say what's up to you.
At halftime BUT like i THINK It's, Aj ben like
when you sit back and YOU, watch aj, you know
like there's a difference band between you coming To The
marriotte center and watching Me And lee KAMARD Watch, j
debonta you KNOW what, I mean and so like it's
it's it's, pretty Special RIGHT and i think you know
we've YOU and i know And b ham we've talked
a lot. ABOUT this i don't think we're ever going
to get talked about the fact that, YOU know AJ
chose byu and seeing the number one pick in, the
draft because here's. THE thing, i, am Okay If cam
ooser goes, NUMBER one i can take a case. For
It If darren peterson GOES, before aj somebody owes money,
to somebody or There's A nico harrison situation, going on because,
You Know darren peterson hasn't played, a minute and so,
LIKE again i will understand if someone chooses scam because
they already have a guard heavy, you. Know lineup but
anybody aside from, that bend we're truly watching greatness in front.
Of us and for the next, twenty years it's going,
to say starting at FORWARD from byu, number Three Aj
de bonsa and THAT, from byu, my friend it is
going to act go through all of the corners OF.
Speaker 7: The, nba yeah.
Speaker 2: Pretty.
Speaker 3: Crazy man who's more entertaining to Watch Aj de Bonser
or jimmer?
Speaker 6: For that, YOU know i if it's if IT'S the,
Ncaa tournament i'm gonna go With. Jim er if, you
know if it's a season, Long team i'm gonna go
with Aj because jimmer will give, you first you KNOW what,
I MEAN like i would, say this, you KNOW like
i COULD catch i could catch. On, FIRE sadly i
never caught on fire IN the, ncaa tournament but like
there were GAMES that i could catch, on fire, you
know to the same Levels that, jimmer did and it
was fun to. Watch THAT but i think long turn
band as we sit back and you know and take
a look at watching watching aj it's, you know it. Is.
Crazy man he does something every game that, you're, LIKE
oh i can't believe he. Did that and then he
does that up and under and then Pivot foot kobe
move that it just blows. You away, and, so uh
it's a joy to watch. Him Play and i'm. Grateful
that i'm grateful that he's one.
Speaker 2: Of, ours yeah as Am I.
Speaker 3: Jonathan tabinari ladies, and gentlemen thanks for talking TO some
byu basketball with us today in a little college. Basketball
segment i'll leave it. With, this uh you feel like
this team is built for a final. Four run Even, Though,
dawson Baker and pickens. Are out Brody KOs laski we
haven't seen. Him, either uh without, those three this team
is built for final?
Speaker 2: Four? Runs correct you feel?
Speaker 6: That way as long as they. Stay, healthy yes there's.
A conversation we're gonna have, a link, you know doing
the pregame Show. On wednesday as long as the big three,
stay healthy B y u. Is fine if one, of them,
SOMETHING happens byu is. In TROUBLE and i don't mean by,
A little i mean by. A lot and so they
are scoring about sixty six percent of the. Team's points
and if, you know if if if one of them
has a bad day or, a game, you know has an,
off game at least they can compensate in. Other areas
they can be used as a decoys if they are
not out. There whatsoever that's. Pretty tough, and so, you
KNOW unfortunately byu just, you know hasn't had the luxury
of have, You Know nate dickens Available And dawson, baker
available and it's one of those situations that they're having
to make the best of what. They have but, you
know it's we can't even say that it's being done
by committee because offensively has been pretty attrocious at. This
point and, YOU know, i mean every Single Non big
three player is averaging about twenty eight twenty nine points.
A game ben you look at the players that, HAVE
played i mean just look even at the looking even
at at the, game here they rotated. Eight players that
Means b yu has less has six five players averaging
less than six points. A game that is. Just unacceptable
and so, you know as long As This big three,
IS healthy i think. They're okay but if they're, not healthy,
you know it's it's going to.
Speaker 3: Get, interesting indeed It Will JONATHAN debnari jt for three
love talking ball.
Speaker 2: With you thanks for joining us today for a college.
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