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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>Ignition with the A and W fanhob podcast team. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about Revolution and several other things that are

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the A W. Is a universal galaxy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, galaxy Strata, sphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Stratus, spear. Thanks Shane, But anyway, this is Kelson, This

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<v Speaker 1>is Shane D. Shane. What do you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about first?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Revolution, Let's talk about the show, dude, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's really frustrated. Like I'm gonna say this plane.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Revolution was fantastic. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people saying that this is a contender for pay per

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<v Speaker 2>view of the Year for all of professional wrestling, and

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<v Speaker 2>the big gripe is the headlining match, and we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get there. But like I think, all in all,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a fantastic event. I think they did a

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<v Speaker 2>lot for exposition. I did a lot. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot for storytelling, and I think that all

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<v Speaker 2>of the matches were really, really, really good, especially the

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<v Speaker 2>women's match. I mean the women's match currently, metrically, according

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<v Speaker 2>to Cage Matches, one of the highest rated women's women's

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<v Speaker 2>matches in the history of women's professional wrestling. It jumped

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<v Speaker 2>all the way up the top five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh hey, the women's matches I thought were really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Momo and Mercedes knocked it out at the

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<v Speaker 1>park too. Uh not. I mean, I'm sure you watched

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<v Speaker 1>the pay per view. You were in the live chat,

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<v Speaker 1>so unless you were making shit up as we were

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<v Speaker 1>going along, what did you What did you think.

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<v Speaker 3>The women's matches? I really liked overall. I liked the

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<v Speaker 3>whole pay per view. Yeah, I liked a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the storytelling. You know, I'm big on the storytelling, So

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<v Speaker 3>I liked the business between Swerve and Prince Nana. Don

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<v Speaker 3>Callus was really on point every time he was out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was very callous, like yeah, very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So what a bad night, family though, I mean like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh yeah, I mean like everybody lost. They set

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<v Speaker 2>up so many future stories and this path and Don

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<v Speaker 2>Callus ate more crap than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to want to ask both of you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because Shane, you just said that they set up more

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<v Speaker 1>future stories. But do you think that Revolution wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>some stories as well? And if so, which which ones

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<v Speaker 1>do you think wrapped up. You don't think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Mariah May and Tony Storm saga is wrapped up, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for now.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're asking me, no, I don't think it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we just gave Mariah May a nuclear missile.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, guys in the history of women's professional professional wrestling,

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<v Speaker 2>like we were just given a treat. We were giving

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<v Speaker 2>something so special. This is how I wanna sell ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like it was one of the This is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest women's professional wrestling matches in history.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this is gonna give Mariah May a

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<v Speaker 2>reason to come back. I think they're gonna put a

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<v Speaker 2>lid on it for a couple of weeks, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pop back into the picture. I think Tony Storm's

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<v Speaker 2>performance was top tier. I think, in my crappy, less

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<v Speaker 2>than humble opinion, Tony Storm is right now with the

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<v Speaker 2>goad of women's professional wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Even think w I don't even think WWE fans would

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<v Speaker 1>are argue that. I've seen plenty of WWE fans just

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<v Speaker 1>complimenting Tony Storm on everything she's doing. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>bad faith actors would say stuff like trash. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>put no effort into that. They say, you know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to put you and Net on the spot here. Other

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<v Speaker 1>than let's let's not talk about Tony Storm and Mariah

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<v Speaker 1>May specifically right now, let's talk about the overall scope

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the pay per view. If you had

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<v Speaker 1>to pick one thing other than Mariah Man Tony Storm

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<v Speaker 1>that stood out for you, what was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see that's all you met.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want, I'll say what I was gonna say. Okay, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's the thing that stood out for me. This

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<v Speaker 1>had this pay per view had like six matches that

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<v Speaker 1>were for titles. Of course, only one title switched hands.

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<v Speaker 1>We had one match it was a Number one contender match,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we had one match that was I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you would just call it a rivalry. That of course

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<v Speaker 1>was MGF and hang Man Attam Paige. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that stood out for me was that aw proved

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<v Speaker 1>a revolution that you can have a meaningful match with

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<v Speaker 1>no title involved. I mean, Hangman and MGF put on

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<v Speaker 1>a banger and frankly speaking, the Swerve, Strickland and Ricochet match,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the number one contendership was up for grabs

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<v Speaker 1>on that I didn't feel like that was the centerpiece

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<v Speaker 1>of the I thought that the actual story that they

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<v Speaker 1>had built, as far as their you know, hatred, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess for each other, the rivalry that they established took

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<v Speaker 1>precedence over even the number one contendership. I literally watched

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<v Speaker 1>this match to see who's going to beat the crap

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<v Speaker 1>out of each other more, not wondering who is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come out as the number one contender for theaw

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<v Speaker 1>World title. So that's my thought. I just thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the two matches that really didn't have a title on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the line were terrific and it proved that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have a title defense for a

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<v Speaker 1>match to be meaningful.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelson say a lot of for people in the back,

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<v Speaker 2>because people, I mean people in the IWC are being

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<v Speaker 2>critical of the fact that some of these matches looked predetermined,

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<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately I have to be the guy to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that there there's want to be controversy with

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<v Speaker 2>this pay per view because of the Queen of the

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<v Speaker 2>Ring ring stuff that happened at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>pay per view with a person that's not even involved

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<v Speaker 2>with professional wrestling that was handed a microphone. I sure Swerve,

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<v Speaker 2>Strickland and Ricochet was a banger. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely Flech

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<v Speaker 2>and Fletcher and Osprey absolute banger.

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<v Speaker 1>Every that's right. That wasn't for a title either. That

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<v Speaker 1>just seemed like it was for a title. That seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like everything was on the line. I mean, how could

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<v Speaker 1>I forget Fletcher and Osprey? I apologize, you're geez.

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<v Speaker 2>I did nothing to apologize, brother, nothing to apologize for.

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<v Speaker 2>This pay per view was built around building stories and

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<v Speaker 2>and moving stories forward. And even if you don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the story that's being told, they took some necessary liberties

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<v Speaker 2>in storytelling to move the book. I don't I like

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<v Speaker 2>i'd like in making statement. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, hey, man, like I with a with the

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<v Speaker 2>headlining match with with Mox versus Cody, I believe there's

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<v Speaker 2>a the greater community believes that Mox versus Cope sucked.

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<v Speaker 2>The match itself was fantastic. Adam Copman went out there

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<v Speaker 2>and murdered it, and the Christian came out there and

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<v Speaker 2>did his thing. It was a thing. But they did

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<v Speaker 2>one of the smartest things they could have done. They

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<v Speaker 2>squashed a stupid story, and unfortunately they did it in

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<v Speaker 2>a stupid way, but they did it in a smart

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<v Speaker 2>way to move the story forward, like, well, now we

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing but like a complete clean slate. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>clean slate for so many stories right now that I

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<v Speaker 2>think are gonna be really awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I'm going to say this for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, this story with John Moxley and the

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<v Speaker 1>Death Writers began in September of twenty twenty four, all out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where Max he put the plastic bag over Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Danielson's head, didn't try to murder him. And if you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>for what two or three weeks after that incident, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a running joke, who's going to get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted this week on AW I mean, who's what attempted

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<v Speaker 1>murderer is going to happen? And then that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quieted down and the whole Death Writers thing became I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to tell you, it became repetitive, It stagnated,

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<v Speaker 1>it became uninteresting, people lost interest in it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can say that with confidence because I read the comments

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<v Speaker 1>on the aw fan Hub Subred and on the aw

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<v Speaker 1>fan Hub Blue Sky and on the Wrestling Hub Discord.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some people stayed invested in it, giving it

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<v Speaker 1>their best shot. Even those people, some of them turned.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the problems that I had with this

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<v Speaker 1>match is that it was not It didn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>to further the story if it made it more convoluted

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<v Speaker 1>to me and much more uninteresting. You yeah, Shane, what

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<v Speaker 1>you said is true. It went to a clean slate.

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<v Speaker 1>We now have a clean slate. They should have done

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<v Speaker 1>the clean slate in September because this slate should have

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<v Speaker 1>never been filled because it was stupid and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like insulting of your intelligence. You know how bad this

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<v Speaker 1>story has been for months now. The second thing I

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<v Speaker 1>will say about this match, now you alluded, Shane, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was you'd had said that this match, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Osprey and Fletcher match should have been the

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<v Speaker 1>main event. You had matches that were verifiably bangers, very athletic.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of matches that maybe were not

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<v Speaker 1>as much so, but they were still fun. And the

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<v Speaker 1>two matches that I'll point out are the Hurt Syndicate

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<v Speaker 1>and the Outrunners. It was a fun match, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was no doubt who was going to win that match,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, in the chats that we had, the match

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<v Speaker 1>went on a little bit too long. It should have

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<v Speaker 1>been a squash. It really should have. The other match

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<v Speaker 1>was Okata versus brody King. Brody King did a fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>job there, and it was a physical match. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a fun match, and there were a lot of as

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Miller would say, one two oohs. But look, we

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<v Speaker 1>all knew brody King wasn't gonna win that match. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody picked the brody King to win this,

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<v Speaker 1>even though some people said that he should should have.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been a good thing. And I agree

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been a good thing. It wouldn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>been a bad thing if Okata had lost. But the

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<v Speaker 1>problem that I had with the main event is that,

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the other matches, for me, Moxley and Hopeland

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<v Speaker 1>looked like they were being filmed in slow motion, and

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<v Speaker 1>only the accompanying commentary proved that it wasn't. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a slow match. It was a plotting match. It just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fit with the rest of revolution. I've heard people

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<v Speaker 1>say that it should have been the first match, but

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<v Speaker 1>the first match was MGF and Hangman, and I called it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember last week, I did say MJF and Hangman,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be the first match. But I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>you guys talk now. But I do want to make

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<v Speaker 1>one other point, and this may be controversial, but I

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<v Speaker 1>truly believe this. Of the eight a W championship titles

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<v Speaker 1>or belts, yeah, well, titles because the trios have more

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<v Speaker 1>than one belt and so does the tag. But of

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<v Speaker 1>the eight AW championship titles, I honestly believe at this

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<v Speaker 1>point that the most insignificant of all the titles is

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<v Speaker 1>the AW World Championship by far, not even close, and

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<v Speaker 1>it should be the top priority championship. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about how do you guys feel

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<v Speaker 1>about the championship? But how did you feel about this

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<v Speaker 1>match and everything else that went along with it? Because

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<v Speaker 1>to me, whatever happened at the end of this match,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not even worth wasting my breath talking about Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to go first, I guess I'll go first. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to go first.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to acknowledge that we as professional

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling fans, have spent most of our time as professional

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling fans watching the same product. I gotta be that person,

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<v Speaker 2>the WWE person, you know, like a lot of fans

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<v Speaker 2>believe these stories are supposed to be told because they've

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<v Speaker 2>been told the same way for so long, and how

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<v Speaker 2>things are happening when things are happening differently. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the criticism. I understand the criticism with the headlining match,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. And I understand not pulling this belt

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<v Speaker 2>off of John Moxley as well. I understand not putting

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<v Speaker 2>this belt on Cope or Christian, But I also understand

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<v Speaker 2>that it needed to be used as a device to

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<v Speaker 2>now we have again a clean slate for what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>with the aw World Championship. We had a couple belts

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<v Speaker 2>in this in this pay per view that traded hands.

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<v Speaker 2>That had to happen, and you can't say, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't be so entitled to believe as a

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<v Speaker 2>they've happened the same way before in other places, other

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<v Speaker 2>promotions or with other championships. Like like, it is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and if you saw it come and cool man, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it is what it is. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was more important to drop the money

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<v Speaker 2>more important to give some relevance to John Moxley as

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<v Speaker 2>a competent champion and he is and he's gonna hold

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<v Speaker 2>this belt and he's gonna be a rock star and

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<v Speaker 2>he's fantastic and he should hold it because who's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the point that we'll talk about after we hear

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<v Speaker 1>Nett's point of view on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for me, I'm a little tired of all of

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<v Speaker 3>the belts, and I'm definitely tired of the death Riders.

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<v Speaker 3>They had something really good going on, like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Kelson back in September, that whole thing with Danielson thrilled

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<v Speaker 3>me to no end, and they lost the momentum for that,

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<v Speaker 3>and ever since they lost that, they've lost me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they've lost a lot of other people. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>starting to I don't know if it's from doing the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast or from having been a wrestling fan for so

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<v Speaker 3>very long, but I for when I'm starting to see

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<v Speaker 3>the predictability in things and being able to have a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good idea of where aw is going with things,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't like that so much. I like being

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<v Speaker 3>surprised and things going the opposite way that I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that they were. So I'm starting to feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>getting a little bit stale. The matches are great, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the storytelling is great, but I'm beginning to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to follow what's going on and I wish

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<v Speaker 3>there was a little bit less of that. So they

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<v Speaker 3>need to find a way to turn that around for

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<v Speaker 3>those of us that kind of maybe have figured things

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<v Speaker 3>out so right, Yeah, that's yeah, That's kind of where

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<v Speaker 3>Revolution left me. Is like I could see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of puzzle pieces falling into place.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go debt, if you wouldn't mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go to our our audience really in the chat,

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<v Speaker 1>because they had a few things to say here. Jets

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<v Speaker 1>Fan says that Ricochet is going to cause Swerve to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume he meant to Moxley when he does get

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<v Speaker 1>his World Championship title match. Steve had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>comments saying that Jay White is in line to be

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<v Speaker 1>a contender I assume again for the aw World Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>But he did go on to say that Eddie Kingston

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<v Speaker 1>is going to defeat him. And then there's Benji who

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<v Speaker 1>just simply said, Swerves house, you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say whose house without responding with we could

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<v Speaker 1>do this for another hour.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Swerve is going to come out on top again.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh that's something about he and Ricochet that I forget.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that they did that entire match and no

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<v Speaker 3>one got stabbed with scissors. I love that they did that.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's a really really interesting point that I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even think of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I thought they were going to bring out

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<v Speaker 3>the scissors and they didn't, and that that.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy wanted they wanted to make the screwdriver more special.

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<v Speaker 1>In all honesty, you know, let's let's talk amongst ourselves here,

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<v Speaker 1>and who do you think is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>one to unseat John Moxley? And maybe more importantly, when.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean if you want that not. You made

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<v Speaker 2>a very poignant uh statement, like it's clear that Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Kahan is falling into this trope of mimicking former professional

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling stories. I'm gonna say it. I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>very very very clear in saying it. This. This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>anything that we haven't seen before. I think that Tony

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<v Speaker 2>considers All In to be his WrestleMania and that if

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<v Speaker 2>and when John Moxley drops, that's gonna happen at this

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<v Speaker 2>pay per view. If I were to take a wild

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<v Speaker 2>guest right now, I put the belt on Swerve.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not.

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<v Speaker 2>Swerve is convincing, Swerve is technical, Swerve is calculated, Swerve

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<v Speaker 2>is over, you know, and I think the only person

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<v Speaker 2>in the conversation to you know, really contest that would

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<v Speaker 2>be Hangman at a page. But that's why they put

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<v Speaker 2>him at the beginning of the pay per view, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like like Hangman is now the guy again and they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna build him up. So you got the final Boss

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<v Speaker 2>versus the Boss. Ricochet looked cool as hell in that match.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, I don't think he has a

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<v Speaker 2>greater lasting uh standing and going for a world championship

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<v Speaker 2>now I think he's going to be a continental and intercontinental.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be a mid card champion. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>Ricochet is. And I hate to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, what about what about the TNT.

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<v Speaker 2>Title with Daniel Garcia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're Ricochet beating Garcia for the talk for the

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<v Speaker 1>dn T title.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, dude, that's you know, cool man, cool idea. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I could say.

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<v Speaker 1>Out there.

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<v Speaker 2>If Garcia isn't defending it on every single regular show,

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<v Speaker 2>why is that even a conversation? I mean, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's the same thing as the trios Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing as the trios titles. Like like,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not being defended, if they're not making them

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<v Speaker 2>look important, they're not important. And something you said at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of this conversation, Kelson, which I were that

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<v Speaker 2>and agree with completely, is that you know, the World

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<v Speaker 2>Championship is not the most important type, same thing with

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<v Speaker 2>the Women's World champion With the Women's World Championship is

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<v Speaker 2>now the most important women's world championship in the history

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<v Speaker 2>professional wrestling in AW The TNT Championship also is fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>now and something that could be defended in other promotions,

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<v Speaker 2>But the Men's World Championship in AAW looks like a

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<v Speaker 2>consolation prize that might belong to Wheeler you to someday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well look let's get the nets. Thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, I'm having trouble with my mute. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that the Men's AW Championship is all that that

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<v Speaker 3>funny business with carrying it around in the briefcase. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I like to see the belts. I like

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<v Speaker 3>them to hold the belts up and bow that they

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<v Speaker 3>have them, and have that arrogance about them, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>defending the belt anywhere anytime anyone here. I am. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got the belt. I don't feel like that about the

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<v Speaker 3>Men's Championship, that they need to turn that around somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see Ricochet doing it. I can see Swerve

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, and I can see Hangman helping him do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think is going to happen, because Hangman

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<v Speaker 3>is starting to have that kindness to him and I

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<v Speaker 3>can see him wanting to uplift Swerve and help him

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<v Speaker 3>out a little bit, have Swerve be where he was

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<v Speaker 3>once upon a time. And they need to change it quick.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm really tired of the trios beelts. That's something

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel like they can do away with, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially since the holders at the Trio's belt are fa

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<v Speaker 1>out with injury.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, yeah, they can do away with.

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<v Speaker 1>The perfect, perfect opportunity to just say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just give it ato Trio's belt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to go to something that Benji said, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually Benji's brother in chat said, Uh. He says that

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<v Speaker 1>Swerve is going to win the AW World title at

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<v Speaker 1>Dynasty and then lose it to Hangman at him page

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<v Speaker 1>at all in it wishes that they melted the Trios

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<v Speaker 1>Championship down. Look, got I gotta say, I gotta say

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<v Speaker 1>really three things real quick. Number one, Net, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you one hundred percent that the AW World Championship

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be seen. The whole thing with mocks being

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<v Speaker 1>the physical embodiment of the World Championship is literally the

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<v Speaker 1>dumbest ship I've ever heard in my life, because it

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<v Speaker 1>is dumb. Uh. The second thing I'll say about that

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<v Speaker 1>is human beings things are extremely visual in what they

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<v Speaker 1>like and don't like. For example, men don't go out

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<v Speaker 1>men and women don't go out and buy the Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Illustrated Swimsuit issue to read the articles.

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<v Speaker 3>That has articles.

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<v Speaker 1>Allegedly allegedly. I mean there's pages that don't have don't have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bikinis on them and swimsuits on them, so

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<v Speaker 1>I've assume that they're either advertisements or articles.

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<v Speaker 2>US don't do that because I'm gonna have to and

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<v Speaker 2>be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>The last, the last thing that I get to say

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<v Speaker 1>about this is that Swerve is now the number one

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<v Speaker 1>contender on this week's Dynamite. The show should open with

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<v Speaker 1>Swerve coming out, calling out John Moxley, squashing him in

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes, opening the briefcase, putting the belt around his

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<v Speaker 1>waist and get on with business. People are saying. Benjie

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<v Speaker 1>said that his brother said that Swerve should win it

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<v Speaker 1>at Dynasty and that some people are saying Eddie Kingston

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<v Speaker 1>at all in or whatever. That's way too long. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry this needs to end now because I am adamant

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I don't have the numbers, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>as Look, I am as big an AW fan as

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<v Speaker 1>there is, okay uh, and I have no interest in

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<v Speaker 1>the AW World Championship right now. I have no interest

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<v Speaker 1>in John Moxley, I have no interest in the death Writers.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is somebody that was like over the moon

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<v Speaker 1>with the Blackpool Combat Club, the biggest fan at the

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<v Speaker 1>Blackpool Combat Club there was. But this whole shift it

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<v Speaker 1>same guys, but different story. This needs to end now

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<v Speaker 1>I know the.

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<v Speaker 2>Period, the same guys, different story. Let's divert to the

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<v Speaker 2>trioers titles because in the past, when people have been injured,

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<v Speaker 2>they have lifted belts off of them and transition them

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<v Speaker 2>to other talents in the locker room and call them

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<v Speaker 2>intrim championships. So if we have someone that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be out for an extended period of time, Tony, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing, bro, pull the trigger to drop the

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<v Speaker 2>title off of them. Put a tournament on and let's

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<v Speaker 2>get some trios going. In terms of John Moxley to

419
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>earn the championship, mox did the thing. Mox is the winner.

420
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Max is gonna get He's the guy. Whether you like

421
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 2>it or not, Like that's the that's the thing that's

422
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>going on right now. You could hate it, and you

423
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>should hate it. You should hate it because that's what

424
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>they want you to do. And that's professional wrestling. How

425
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>many times had go ahead?

426
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I disagree with you, Shane, Yeah, they want you to

427
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>hate it. They don't want it, to hate it to

428
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the point where you're not watching it. And I have

429
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>seen so many people, including myself, how many times have

430
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I said it was that has said I. I literally

431
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>said this about the main event before it was announced

432
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for Revolution. I hope that John Moxley against whomever he's

433
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>fighting is the main event at Revolution because I want

434
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to go to bed early. I truly believe that this

435
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 1>storyline is losing viewers, it's losing interest in aw because

436
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they devote so much time to it and it's not working.

437
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Why would you watch any TV show that isn't working.

438
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 1>And it's to me, it's disrespectful to people like Swerve

439
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 1>and Ricochet and Tony Storm and Mariah May who are

440
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>putting their hearts and soul into everything that they're doing.

441
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 1>And then you have John Moxley and the death writers

442
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 1>come out and everybody that's been involved with it just

443
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>passionless bullshit. I'm sorry, that's the way I feel about it.

444
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't apologize. Man, You're not the only person that feels

445
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>the way. They'll like like the it invoked a feeling

446
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>out of you. That was what it was intended to do.

447
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, that's the cool thing about professional

448
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>or wrestling that these situations are designed, are designed to

449
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>force fandoms to disagree. I I if I disagree with like,

450
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll be the one person. Holy crap, am I gone? No?

451
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, the computers doing a weird thing like yeah,

452
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm still here. Like, though I disagree with you, I

453
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's the case. And I think that the

454
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>head I think that match needed to happen. I think

455
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they needed to rip that money in the bank thing

456
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>away from Christian and put it on a different trajectory.

457
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think that the death Riders needed to be relevant,

458
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>just so it gives context towards what the next step is.

459
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 2>If we're building factions, we could have the Bull Club

460
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.640
<v Speaker 2>again with J White. J White was a factor in

461
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 2>this match, and and and Cope could be a fact

462
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>u U Cope having a faction of his own, but

463
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that tr could be a factor as well. That could

464
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 2>you could build other stories out of these ideas. They

465
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>created a landscape for new ideas, and I think it's important.

466
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Agree with you. I agree, I absolutely agree with you.

467
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely acknowledge it. But in my mind, the reason

468
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and they had to get that money in the bank

469
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 1>contract off of Christian because it's you know, it seems

470
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's it seems like he's had it since all

471
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 1>in uh, the first one in London. You know, I

472
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know what he's had it for months, but yeah.

473
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you as well.

474
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I wanted when he catched it in. I wanted him

475
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>to win it because I like I and everyone would

476
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>hate the idea of Christian holding the world championship. But

477
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>that's cool as hell. You're getting something that's not happening

478
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.599
<v Speaker 2>anywhere else wrestling. Let him come out of the woodwork

479
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and take it off a mox with Cope in the background,

480
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and give the rest of the locker room an opportunity

481
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 2>to rise up and do something crazy. I think the

482
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 2>only mistake they made in this uh, in this final

483
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>match was not putting this belt on Christian, doing the

484
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>TNA thing, doing the Bangkok thing. What's the capital? What's

485
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the capital Thailand? It's Bangcock. They should have done the

486
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 2>same thing.

487
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>They should I thought it was t. I thought it

488
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was t.

489
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 2>You watch more women's wrestling than once, it might be.

490
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, I know, I know all the capitals of

491
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 1>all the states and all the countries.

492
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 2>So, oh, you know better than we do right now,

493
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I I Kelson. Let me ask you, dude, if you

494
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 2>were to rate like a They rated this as a

495
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>five and a half star pay per view. The I disagree. Listen,

496
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say something controversial. Ciskel and Ebert controlled the

497
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>rating system for movies for thirty six years. They were

498
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the standard for rating movies and what people looked to

499
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>in newspapers before they went to see movies. I don't

500
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't agree with it then, but it existed for

501
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a reason. Meltzer has been around forever. He's been reviewing

502
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>professional wrestling shows since the eighties. I think he has

503
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 2>a right to say what is good and what is not.

504
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>You he does, Yeah, well everyone who's a fan does.

505
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>That's it's fair. But this is a guy like it.

506
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Look do you know about Meltzer's resume? Look at look

507
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>it up, dude. The dude's of political sciences major. That's

508
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the thing. The dude is not an idiot. He's not

509
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>an idiot. Like he knows professional wrestling. He called Revolution

510
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of five star pay per view. I think it was

511
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 2>a pot.

512
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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's put it this way, wrestling is at its

513
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>best what it doesn't cater to, uh, rocket scientists. I

514
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say that it caters to idiots, but

515
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 1>it caters to the everyman. It's an escape, it's escapism.

516
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, you shouldn't have to think if you don't

517
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>want to. There should be enough in there that just

518
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>happens that you can enjoy and the story tells itself.

519
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be rocket science. And look, I

520
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 1>respect Dave Meltzer's ratings simply because he's a fan like

521
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>me and like you and like net. You know, he

522
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 1>gives his ratings. Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don't.

523
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, honestly, I hard to refute that statement. Kelson.

524
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I respect your opinion because you are the one of

525
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the more educated people on our server on professional wrestling history.

526
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>You've been around for a long time. Brother, But like

527
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I am intelligant, I'm just saying, trying to flew job,

528
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>just saying I'm bro I'm saying what it is, dude,

529
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Like you were around for the w CW days.

530
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 1>This brought for to Georgia Championship for Wrestling Days that

531
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>which that became essentially w cw S.

532
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, this pay per view was Bash at the Beach

533
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.280
<v Speaker 2>ninety eight adjacent They this it was some of the

534
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>coolest matches that in professional wrestling that have happened in

535
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the past three to six months happened on this pay

536
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 2>per view. My god, we're talking, We're killing We're talking

537
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>this uh this mox match to death. And I understand

538
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the controversy, but let's talk about the the best match

539
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 2>on the whole entire card, the women's match in the

540
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Ospray match. The women's match was, my guy, it was cinematic,

541
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.519
<v Speaker 2>it was it was amazing. It's brilliant.

542
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 1>You want you want to hear something controversial.

543
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Shane, dude, please do something right now.

544
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say something crazy, right, I agree with you.

545
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 1>The Mariah May and Tony Storm match with cinema, it

546
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>was superb. It was fantastic. Absolutely, I am not saying

547
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't. I want to make that clear. The

548
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Mercedes Monet and Momo Watana Bee match was better. That's

549
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:35.519
<v Speaker 1>my idea. I love I love the striking in that match. Well,

550
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 1>let's face it, it was Momo doing the striking. She beat

551
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the living hell out of Mercedes Monet. She destroyed her.

552
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 1>And I'm saying this. Understand that what I'm saying this

553
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>is that that's the kind of match I like. I

554
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 1>like the toe to toe beating the crap out of

555
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>each other match without doing those stupid chops. I hate

556
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 1>the chops, you know, you know, I mean, chops are

557
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>cool when you do two or three. When you do

558
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty six in a match, it's a

559
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>little much. Uh you know, I mean, you know, if

560
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you want, if you ever having trouble sleep in a night,

561
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 1>count uh count tomohiro Ishi chops. But whether he's given

562
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>him or taking him, he doesn't matter. Whatever God forbid,

563
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you put Eddie Kinks to the Tomo hero Ishi in

564
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.800
<v Speaker 1>a ring together. Oh my god, it's the chop chop, chop, chop,

565
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>chop up. It's like boom.

566
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 2>All right. Yeah.

567
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying is, I'm saying what I'm saying

568
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>not to be little in any way, shape or form.

569
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>The Tony Stormer Marian May match, which was fantastic, But

570
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that I actually enjoyed the Mercedes Monet and

571
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 1>mamo Ataaba match a little bit more because that's the

572
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:04.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of match I like. To see.

573
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what, Kelson, You and I I've had the

574
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.639
<v Speaker 2>privilege of being to talk to you for almost it's

575
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a bit. But listen, don't go getting all sets and

576
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 2>mets on me. Brother. It's almost been two years that

577
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I've had the PA. Don't go getting all sets and

578
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 2>mets A on me, Bob. But it's almost two years

579
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that I've been on this or in and out on

580
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 2>this server, and UH, we've had our agreements and our disagreements.

581
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna tell you right now that I I

582
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 2>believe the if if Momo and UH and Mercedes happened

583
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>on a Stardom pay per view, it would be just

584
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 2>as big as Tony Storm and Mariah May on the

585
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 2>aw pay per view, I think. And I'm gonna the

586
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 2>shade shades put it up. I'm gonna shades. What's up, dude?

587
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 2>By the way, how are you? And I hope you're

588
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>doing well. I'm gonna put you on right now, shades

589
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:04.079
<v Speaker 2>through the metric onto the server earlier today, the Mercedes,

590
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 2>not the Mercedes, but the Tony Storm and Maria May

591
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>match is now metrically the fifth highest rated women's professional

592
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>wrestling match in the history of women's professional wrestling, and

593
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>the Momo and Mercedes match doesn't even touch it. I

594
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 2>I think that I think that's it's I think it's

595
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 2>the difference between an idea and a revolution. I think

596
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that Tony Storm Might is a contender for the greatest

597
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 2>women's professional wrestler in the history history professional wrestling.

598
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And the absolutely agree with you. I absolutely agree.

599
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 3>With you, Bro.

600
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 2>The match they put on, well, what dude, the seeing

601
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>mo I get why seeing Momo in that match for

602
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>you as a stardom fed you. You should have a

603
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>completely different podcast for women's professional wrestling, Bro, because you

604
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 2>were putting them on hard as hell, and I wish

605
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 2>it would get a million viewers and you would blow

606
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 2>up and it would be monetized because you were so

607
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>passionate about it. I agree with everything that you're saying

608
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 2>about how important it was for Mercedes and moment I

609
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 2>had that match, and how good that match was. It

610
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:12.800
<v Speaker 2>was a gray match, But dude, you're not gonna sit

611
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 2>here and tell me that that f and Tony Storm

612
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and Mariah May wasn't better than that. Dude, it was.

613
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.559
<v Speaker 1>It was. I did not say that. I did not

614
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>say that it was. And if I did. I didn't

615
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:30.320
<v Speaker 1>mean it that way. I do not did not say

616
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>that or mean to say that the Momo and Mercedes

617
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>match was better than the Mariah And it was what

618
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying as as far if you take the one

619
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 1>match the matches themselves, throw the stories out the window.

620
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I just enjoyed the Mercedes and Momo match just a

621
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit better. Not it wasn't like, oh, the Momo

622
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Mercedes match was so good and the Tony Storm and

623
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Mariah Maymax sucked. No. I never said that. I'm just

624
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:11.599
<v Speaker 1>saying that if I had to go back and watch

625
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a match again, I would definitely watch the Mercedes and

626
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Momo match because that's the kind of match that I enjoy.

627
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you, would you have preferred if Momo won?

628
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm gonna say this, Yes, I am

629
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 1>a stardom fan. I don't really get Momo Watanabe. I

630
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>really don't. Yeah, and no, I.

631
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Think that she was a mid card and she's a

632
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>mid card. Well.

633
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>The thing with Momo Momo kind of how do I

634
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 1>put this? She kind of isn't like she's kind of

635
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 1>like Sasha Banks was in WWE. Sasha Banks was a

636
00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>singles force but toward the end of her run with WWE,

637
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:03.119
<v Speaker 1>go look at it. Look go look at her matches.

638
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, her last year of matches at WWE, she

639
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was doing nothing but tag team matches pretty much. That

640
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>was all she did. I don't think she had a

641
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.559
<v Speaker 1>singles match. If she did have a singles match in

642
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 1>her last year, it was maybe one or two. And

643
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of way MoMA was. MoMA was a singles

644
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>force when she came in to stardom, but then she

645
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:33.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of just became a tag team or trios wrestler

646
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and she had I believe in all of I did

647
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>look it up, and I may be wrong here, but

648
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe she had one singles match in like twenty

649
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty four and that was a loss to Mayui Watani

650
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:56.519
<v Speaker 1>and that was it. She's not a singles wrestler, so

651
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>taking that into consideration, she used to a singles wrestler,

652
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>but taking the consideration that she's not a singles wrestler, really,

653
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Moore, that made this match even more impressive to me.

654
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 1>But I will say this, Shane, to answer your question,

655
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I am not a Momo well taught to be fan.

656
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's bad don't get me wrong. I

657
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>just think that excuse me, I got take ups. I

658
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>just think that there's so many women in stardom who

659
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>were so much better than Momento.

660
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I couldn't agree with that statement more so,

661
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna show I'm gonna do my Shane thing really quick. So,

662
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.079
<v Speaker 2>like you know, we know that Sasha Banks premiered in

663
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.360
<v Speaker 2>WW like she earlier in her career. In two thousand

664
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>and eight, she was with Kadok for Wrestling and which

665
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Masters it was a Massachusetts based wrestling promotion, and then

666
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 2>she entered WW in twenty twelve and NXT. She was

667
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 2>a singles wrestler until twenty eighteen, and she and in

668
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen she was was with Team Bad and she

669
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>wrestled a little bit. But like you're you're not wrong

670
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.639
<v Speaker 2>in the aspect of she spent the better part of

671
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 2>her career, the more established part of her career, the

672
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>more successful part of her career. She was a tag

673
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.159
<v Speaker 2>team wrestler. That's the thing, rob with Naomi. With Naomi,

674
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>yeah for sure, But like the majority of her career

675
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 2>was spent with her being a singles wrestler. I mean

676
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>with MoMA, but it's the same thing for Momo. You

677
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>made you I think you accidentally made that comparison between

678
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the two of them because their careers kind of mirror

679
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>each other, because Momo kind of did the same thing

680
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 2>at stardom. She started as a singles got into a faction,

681
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, ended up landing in other promotions

682
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 2>as a singles performer. I honestly, now making the statement

683
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>about the history, I would say that like moving on, Like, uh,

684
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:09.599
<v Speaker 2>if you wanted to do something monumental with Mercedes Monai's titles,

685
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you would have taken the TNT title off of her

686
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>at this uh pay per view. If we're having serious crop,

687
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>we have rustled Dynasty coming up and forbidden Door, you know,

688
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>within the next six months, Dude, let her, let Mercedes lose.

689
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I get that you're Tony Tony. I get you paid

690
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 2>for it. I get you paid for her to be here.

691
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I get that she's a name. I get that she

692
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 2>was huge. You know the Riot squad, dude, the Riot

693
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Squad like it was a it was Ruby Soho, Siah Logan, Live,

694
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Morgan and Mercedes Mona. I get how big that was

695
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:46.280
<v Speaker 2>for you. But like now it's time to kind of

696
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>shake up the industry a little bit. I would have

697
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 2>put that belt on Momo. I wouldn't have thought twice

698
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 2>about it. I would not like it. Yeah, like that.

699
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 2>That would have been the thing to do, because now

700
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.199
<v Speaker 2>we now we have a title for AW that's being

701
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>defended in other promotions, and that's what we've been looking

702
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>for in the inter Continental tru Tuttle that now we're begging.

703
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 2>We have two intercontinental titles for the men in AW

704
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>that we want to be defended in other promotions. That's

705
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 2>not happening, but we've defended the women in New Japan.

706
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>That was an opportunity and the ball was dropped. I

707
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>think stardom. Stardom should have been put over here.

708
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>You know one thing I wanted to say, Shane, Shane,

709
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to address something you said, and then we'll

710
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>go to net and get her. You know, you said

711
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 1>something about Mercedes me it's time for Mercedes Monet to lose.

712
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 1>And I can't agree with you more, not because of

713
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>any dislike for Mercedes Monett, but because it's good for

714
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 1>the story. And I will give you this example, the

715
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Mariah May and Tony Storm match and matches their trilogy

716
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of matches was made Well, no, there's not a true

717
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>was it three matches or four three three? Okay? Yeah,

718
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>so it is a trilogy. There are trilogy of matches.

719
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Was made better because Mariah May won. Yeah, because because

720
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:21.559
<v Speaker 1>if Tony Storman won all three then there really wouldn't

721
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>have been a point than having the other two matches.

722
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, well, there would have been a point, but

723
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it would have made it special. There would have been

724
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>anything on the line. And that's the thing with Mercedes Monet.

725
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:38.559
<v Speaker 1>If she loses the TBS Championship, she could then go

726
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 1>after the Women's World Championship. She could go after the

727
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 1>TBS Championship again, and it'll be something that will put

728
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you on your edge of your seat when that happens.

729
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Losing the championship, losing the TBS title for Mercedes Monet

730
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.559
<v Speaker 1>is not a bad thing, and it's not a slight

731
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>against Mercedes at all. She's still Mercedes Monet, one of

732
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 1>the greatest professional wrestlers that you know, women wrestlers, arguably

733
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.760
<v Speaker 1>professional wrestlers you know of all time, So least in

734
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 1>her mind.

735
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I think aw figured Wing out. I'm going to say it.

736
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I think they figured it out. I think Tony figured

737
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.559
<v Speaker 2>it out in the past three months, and I think

738
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 2>that I, I official, well, we were so critical of

739
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 2>what was happening in AW with the women's wrestlers in

740
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 2>the women women's locker room, and I think we're finally

741
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm I think that we're finally in a place to

742
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 2>say that some of the best things that are happening

743
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in women's professional wrestling are happening in AW right now,

744
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and Tony figured out how to put them over and

745
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I think removing some people from the picture was what

746
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 2>made it great. And I think that the direction that

747
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>they're headed in is going to be epic and I

748
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm I'm going to say something real weird.

749
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a politics politics guy. I don't think that.

750
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I think in a in a perfect where that a

751
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 2>women's world title and a men's world title exists in

752
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.159
<v Speaker 2>the same space, make it great, make it great for

753
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 2>both people, make it great for both sexes. I think

754
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Tony has an opportunity to show the world that the

755
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 2>women are doing just as good. And I think that

756
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>putting these two women together on this pay per view

757
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 2>proved that completely. The dude, this women match literally like

758
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.880
<v Speaker 2>literally now metrically is considered to be the fifth greatest

759
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.239
<v Speaker 2>women's professional wrestling, the best women's wrestling match in North America,

760
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 2>and the fifth greatest women's professional wrestling match metrically on Earth.

761
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 2>But I would very strongly say that this is one

762
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.039
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest women's wrestling matches of all time. And

763
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 2>I know that Momo and Mercedes deserve their spot on

764
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 2>the their spotlight in the sun, dude, and I think

765
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>it's going to come. But I think they need to

766
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 2>develop this middle title first, get it off of Mercedes,

767
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.039
<v Speaker 2>put Mercedes in the world title spectrum, and let someone

768
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 2>else from another company hold an a w title. And

769
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>that's it's That's what's gonna make it look irrelevant. And

770
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 2>until that happens, why have middle those middling titles?

771
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Before we go to net that. I apologize that for

772
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 1>just keeping I want to stay.

773
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I went crazy. I apologize, but.

774
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I want I wanted to make a point here. As

775
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Shane said, I am a Startom fan. One of the

776
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>greatest things about Stardom for me is that they have

777
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:43.039
<v Speaker 1>a way of storytelling. And what I mean by that

778
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 1>is I don't speak Japanese at all. I know Sayonara

779
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 1>and hi from watching you know Karate Kid and stuff

780
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:58.679
<v Speaker 1>like that. But but I guess my point is is

781
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that I want stardom, and I understand everything that's going

782
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>on in their shows. I understand their promotions because they're

783
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 1>expressive their body language. You understand what's happening. And when

784
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 1>the Mercedes and Mama match was happening, that was a

785
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>start of match. That was a pure stardom match from

786
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 1>beginning in the striking, the brutality of it was started

787
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 1>from an end. But when you think about it, so

788
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:37.079
<v Speaker 1>was the Tony Storm and Mariah May match. That was

789
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 1>stardom theater right there. I mean, I think if you

790
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>like Tony Storm and you like Mariah May and the

791
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 1>matches that they've put on and the story that they've

792
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 1>put on, and you've never watched stardom before, go on

793
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to start them YouTube channel and do yourself a favor

794
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 1>and watch a few of their fewer their highlights, and

795
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll be impressed. Net I really wanted to

796
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 1>want to see you ground us and keep me and

797
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Shane quiet. They're calling for you in the chat saying

798
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we want to hear a nuts take. I mean, sleep,

799
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:18.320
<v Speaker 1>dazzle us with your eloquence.

800
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh, my eloquence. I loved the Mercedes Momo match. I

801
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:29.000
<v Speaker 3>absolutely did. I feel like Momo should have won that

802
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 3>match as well. I think we need to take some

803
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 3>of these aw titles, and like you all were saying,

804
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:43.159
<v Speaker 3>let them go around in the different promotions and be defended.

805
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Not everybody has to come to a w to challenge

806
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:52.320
<v Speaker 3>for titles. We can go other places and do other things.

807
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:58.760
<v Speaker 3>I think Mercedes is a fantastic wrestler. She aggravates me

808
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.880
<v Speaker 3>on a personal level, but she's good in the ring.

809
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 3>And I would like to see more women's matches, more

810
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 3>defense of the women's belts in like I said, in

811
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 3>other places, and Tony Kahan is on the diverge of

812
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.280
<v Speaker 3>doing it, and if he plays it right and does

813
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:31.639
<v Speaker 3>it right, we can have fantastic women's wrestling and I

814
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:35.719
<v Speaker 3>would love to see it for one. So I hope

815
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 3>that we get more out of this, and Mercedes has

816
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 3>a lot of belts to defend, so the possibility is there.

817
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 3>I just want to see it. So that's my eloquent take.

818
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, Bet, I'm going to ask you a point blank question.

819
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Now that Tony Storm has defeated Mariah May and had

820
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:04.519
<v Speaker 1>her Hollywood ending who do you think is or who

821
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 1>do you think are the top contenders that you would

822
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>like to maybe like see face Tony Storm at Dynasty

823
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 1>which is coming up really soon, and even all in

824
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>what do you see in Tony Storm's future leaving Mariah

825
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 1>May out of it?

826
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, m I'm not sure. I personally really like Chris Stantlander,

827
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 3>so I would like to see more of her, And

828
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:45.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know with Tony's Storm, I don't I really

829
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

830
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 1>What about you, Shane, do you have any ideas? Nope?

831
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I honestly think that the women's professional wrestling landscape and

832
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:03.000
<v Speaker 2>ae W was recent set by this and whatever happens happens,

833
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna ride with it because they figured out

834
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:12.880
<v Speaker 2>what works and it and it looks fantastic right now. Yeah,

835
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.440
<v Speaker 2>you can't put you can't put on you can't put

836
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:22.559
<v Speaker 2>on the great I I have a bull Nanako China

837
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 2>like like like I like, I can't, I can't say

838
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:29.760
<v Speaker 2>more dude, like like Alexa Bliss. We've had the privilege

839
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:34.039
<v Speaker 2>of seeing some fantastic women's wrestlers in women's wrestling, but

840
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 2>they but they put that in a category like it's

841
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.480
<v Speaker 2>a niche thing. Tony Kahan took it and said, hey,

842
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 2>this is a human thing. It's a real thing. Let's

843
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:43.920
<v Speaker 2>rock with it. This is one of the best women's

844
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 2>women's matches in the history of professional wrestling. I don't

845
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:49.639
<v Speaker 2>care what direction it goes in. It's gonna be great

846
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:50.840
<v Speaker 2>whoever they put up.

847
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, here here's my thoughts. And I think

848
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I've expressed this before. I believe it was in twenty

849
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty two when the AW Women's World Championship was vacated

850
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 1>due to injury by thunder Rosa, and afterward Tony Storm

851
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>became the interim Women's Championship champion by winning a I

852
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:21.199
<v Speaker 1>believe it was a four way, maybe it was a

853
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>three way, but you want a multi women match to

854
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>become the interim world champion, which eventually was changed to

855
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>full World champion because thunder Rosa was injured and could

856
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:39.840
<v Speaker 1>not come back. And again, you know, it's weird because

857
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 1>thunder Rosa and Tony Storm were tag team partners. They

858
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>were Thunderstorm together. Now taking into consideration that thunder Rosa

859
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>never lost that championship and has never faced Tony Storm

860
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 1>for that champion and all In is in Houston, Texas,

861
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>which just seems to me. As far as all End goes,

862
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>they've got to do Tony stormanth On the Rosa. That

863
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:24.079
<v Speaker 1>that's my prediction. So I mean, but look, I mean,

864
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I as far as Mariah May goes, I think she's

865
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 1>just gonna take a little bit of time off. She

866
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 1>deserves it. She's been a workhorse for this. This story

867
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:39.079
<v Speaker 1>has been going on for sixteen months. Sixteen months, nearly

868
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 1>a year and a half. That's how good it's been.

869
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 1>It was wonderfully paced and everything. I mean, you could

870
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 1>ask for more from this story in my opinion, and

871
00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure other some people may disagree with me, but

872
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody on this panel will. He will

873
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:04.039
<v Speaker 1>at all. But I kind of see, you know, I

874
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.280
<v Speaker 1>think it was I can't remember who it was posted

875
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 1>it in Chad. I'm scrolling to see, Uh it was

876
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>it was Jets fan who said I wish that they

877
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 1>would melt the Trio's belts down and pretend they never existed. Yeah.

878
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I agree, and they should immediately melt them down and

879
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:27.920
<v Speaker 1>create the AW Women's Tag Team Championship titles. And there

880
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.400
<v Speaker 1>are so many tag teams that if you've been paying

881
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 1>attention to AW they have been building these tag teams

882
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 1>over the last several weeks. Maria May now is free

883
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to go get her tag team partner. And who's her

884
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 1>tag team partner? Mina Shirakala Rose Gold do it. That's

885
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.360
<v Speaker 1>what the That's what I think's next for Maria May do.

886
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that Maria May and Mina Srikala will win

887
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:58.599
<v Speaker 1>the championship. Probably not because Mina Shirkala is under contract

888
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>for another closed period of time with Stardom. But it's

889
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 1>good story. It's there, It's right there in front of

890
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>your face, you know, so let's do it. Other than

891
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:19.880
<v Speaker 1>we've talked for a just an amazing amount of time

892
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:24.559
<v Speaker 1>about the women, and I'm not complaining about it. I

893
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:30.679
<v Speaker 1>love women's wrestling, and I really do, and they deserve

894
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 1>to be talked about. And I hope Tony con realizes that.

895
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.639
<v Speaker 1>But I want to talk about Let's go to will

896
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:44.519
<v Speaker 1>Osprey and Kyle Fletcher, not.

897
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Tedny and Takesha.

898
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about Kenny and Takesta.

899
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 1>You want to talk about Teddy, Let's talk about Kyle

900
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:57.559
<v Speaker 1>and that I got to be honest with They had

901
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 1>me when they settle low. What I mean by that

902
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is when they came out for their entrances. Kyle Fletcher

903
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:06.159
<v Speaker 1>came out first, climbed up to one corner of the

904
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 1>steel cage, and then and then uh will Osfrey came

905
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.559
<v Speaker 1>out to a different version of his music. He climbed

906
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>to the other edge of the steel cage. When they

907
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:24.360
<v Speaker 1>actually hit his original music and the fans started chanting Osprey.

908
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:28.679
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was subtle, subtle, but brilliant.

909
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 4>That as Osprey was waving to the crowd to encourage them,

910
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 4>the Osprey Osprey, at the very same time Kyle Fletcher

911
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:42.320
<v Speaker 4>was over there plugging his ears.

912
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was brilliant. I just thought it

913
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:51.559
<v Speaker 1>was I thought that was brilliant. I was laughing my

914
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:56.719
<v Speaker 1>ass off at Look, wrestling doesn't need to As I

915
01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:59.159
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, you don't have to be a rocket scientist

916
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to joy wrestling. That was one of the simplest and

917
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe even the dumbest thing that could have possibly happened.

918
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I loved every second of that. And then you had

919
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the match, and then you had the match.

920
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Yea.

921
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:21.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, the only thing I could say bad about

922
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the Tony Storm and Mariah May match and will Osprey

923
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and Kyle Fletcher match is that you can't post any

924
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 1>pictures of them on Reddit because they'll just take them

925
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:32.199
<v Speaker 1>down because it was too much blood.

926
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh god, those God, it was a it was

927
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:45.239
<v Speaker 2>almost a smut film like, especially for the women. And

928
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know if they blade it or

929
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.880
<v Speaker 2>what happened in that situation. It just but god, it was.

930
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:58.079
<v Speaker 2>It was violent, but I think it was violence negating violence.

931
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:03.039
<v Speaker 2>It was a necessity in terms of Ospirey and Fletcher.

932
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 2>That's got a five point seven rating on Cage Match.

933
01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Ospirey has I listen, hate me for saying it, Hate

934
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:17.599
<v Speaker 2>me for hate for hate me for quoting uh Dave Meltzer,

935
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 2>hate me for using this as a rest reference. I

936
01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.559
<v Speaker 2>don't give a shit. I'm gonna say it plain as day.

937
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:25.800
<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna look at me and tell me that

938
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 2>the Osprey and Fletcher match wasn't one of the greatest

939
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 2>cage match Dude. That Spanish fly is comparable to the

940
01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Mankind Undertaker Helena cel ninety eight Mankind getting thrown off

941
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 2>into the into the Spanish announced desk. It is comparable

942
01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:46.760
<v Speaker 2>to that moment that Spanish fly they hit looked like

943
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:49.760
<v Speaker 2>someone might have died when they landed. On that fucking match.

944
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh excuse me, I'll stop hold then, Okay.

945
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.

946
01:02:56.840 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Them hitting that spot was compared terrible to the nineteen

947
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:07.880
<v Speaker 2>ninety eight Hell in a Cell where where man thrown

948
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.039
<v Speaker 2>off the steel cage. It was it was comparable, dude.

949
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:15.119
<v Speaker 2>There's there's no getting around that, dude. It was one

950
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.079
<v Speaker 2>of the hardest spots hitting pro wrestling history. This was

951
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a landmark match. I don't care what your preferred flavored

952
01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:26.079
<v Speaker 2>professional wrestling is. This was one of the greatest steel

953
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:28.039
<v Speaker 2>cage matches in the history still cage matches.

954
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch ups and downs either of you for

955
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.679
<v Speaker 1>the show from a Revolution from Simon Miller?

956
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I watch everything selling as Simon Miller does. I

957
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 2>love him?

958
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:47.559
<v Speaker 1>No? I love Mike, but yeah no. But he mentioned

959
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:51.280
<v Speaker 1>specifically that Spanish fly and he mentioned that he wrestled

960
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend I guess or within the last week

961
01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and he had a Spanish fly hit on him and

962
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:01.039
<v Speaker 1>he is scared to hell. I think he bit his

963
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.639
<v Speaker 1>tongue and he said it his Spanish fly was done

964
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:07.039
<v Speaker 1>off the top rope. And he said, do you realize

965
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:11.800
<v Speaker 1>how tall a w steel cages are? And he said

966
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:17.920
<v Speaker 1>when he saw that move. I can't remember what he said,

967
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 1>but it was comparable to I thought these two men

968
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.639
<v Speaker 1>were going to die. I do not think it was

969
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:29.199
<v Speaker 1>comparable to the Hell in the Cell spot, Shane, that was.

970
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Brother. We both saw it in real time. I am

971
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.400
<v Speaker 2>old enough to say that I saw it in real time.

972
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I know you saw it in real time. How is

973
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it not comparable? No one expected it. What happened. And

974
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:49.760
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about the difference between someone falling.

975
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:54.119
<v Speaker 5>Off of off of a cage situation, situation or a

976
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 5>cell situation and then hitting a Spanish fly Dude, this Yeah,

977
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:02.039
<v Speaker 5>this was one of you.

978
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree with you that, but it just didn't

979
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have the wow for me. Uh, not as much it was. No,

980
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it was a wow moment.

981
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 2>There were no tags for the Hell in the Cell

982
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.320
<v Speaker 2>they like listen, I have recent Dark Side of the

983
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Ring and I just uh showed some promos from the

984
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:31.480
<v Speaker 2>next first season six what's up? Watch it? But like

985
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:35.559
<v Speaker 2>when they hit that spot for Helen a cell with

986
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Mankind and the Undertaker like that, what Like, it's a

987
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.519
<v Speaker 2>different type of dangerous. It's a different type of dangerous

988
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:50.800
<v Speaker 2>because they were protected, more protected with the Hell in

989
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:54.239
<v Speaker 2>a Cell spot than they were with will Ospry.

990
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Hellen the cell came first. That was that was specially.

991
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to phrase it to where I don't take

992
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 6>away from what Kyle Fletcher will Osprey did because it

993
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:14.159
<v Speaker 6>was spectacular, it was wonderful, it was wow.

994
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:19.239
<v Speaker 1>But for me, you're not. I just don't think it is.

995
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.519
<v Speaker 2>You don't think it's comparable at the very least comparable.

996
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I would go so much to say that if the

997
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 1>ladders were two feet higher. The spot that it's comparable

998
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to for me, more comparable to to me is Semi

999
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Kovar Stunner from Ladder to Ladder on Cody Roads for

1000
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the TNT Championship Man the tt Championship match.

1001
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I saw that live in Cleveland, Bro, that happened, happened to.

1002
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:54.239
<v Speaker 1>My home to me, Okay, understand this, understand this. I

1003
01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 1>just want to say something real quick to me. That

1004
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Stunner prompt that Spanish fly. Do you say that right now?

1005
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that edge Adam Copeland hitting uh Jeff

1006
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Hardy on that ladder match was harder than that?

1007
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it, Bro.

1008
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 2>That's wrestling history, Okay, I mean I listen, I get it.

1009
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I get your perspective, BRO, but I think that Spanish

1010
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:31.800
<v Speaker 2>fly might would have been that's probably I get the

1011
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Sammy Guvara Cody Roads thing went hard. I have the

1012
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.400
<v Speaker 2>privilege of being able to see that live in my

1013
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:42.480
<v Speaker 2>hometown of Cleveland, Ohio. But like, I really believe that

1014
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that that went way harder than that.

1015
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, I would said I'm a little bit biased because

1016
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 1>of all the spots ever done in aw that's a bigavar.

1017
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Cody Roads thing is my favorite spot and I'll always

1018
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:58.480
<v Speaker 1>have a spot for it. I do want to ask Benji,

1019
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:00.960
<v Speaker 1>if he's still here, and I think he is in

1020
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:05.440
<v Speaker 1>our in our chat, if he would respond to this,

1021
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'll once he responds, I'll let you know. There

1022
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:12.880
<v Speaker 1>was a he was in the crowd at Revolution and

1023
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:19.479
<v Speaker 1>when Will Osprey was bleeding the on TV at the

1024
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 1>pay per view they showed I thought this was a

1025
01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:27.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty poignant moment. Is they showed him with blood streaming

1026
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 1>down his face and you could hear the collective gasp

1027
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:36.600
<v Speaker 1>of the crowd, And I wanted to ask Beggie, wasn't

1028
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:44.640
<v Speaker 1>as loud as it sounded on TV that gasp? But anyway, Matt,

1029
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:46.199
<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts on this?

1030
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 3>I love that match. I did they were doing some

1031
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.439
<v Speaker 3>phenomenal things. I like the fact that Fletcher wore those

1032
01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 3>knee pads that had Osprey's blood on them. Uh, just

1033
01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:06.960
<v Speaker 3>the way they were behaving towards one another. I just

1034
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:10.319
<v Speaker 3>loved the whole thing. That Spanish fly was amazing. It's

1035
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:14.399
<v Speaker 3>one of the best things I've seen. I'm right there

1036
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:20.239
<v Speaker 3>with Shane on that one. I just I just loved it.

1037
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:23.359
<v Speaker 3>I thought the whole thing was just great, that that

1038
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:29.640
<v Speaker 3>was really really good. So I don't know, just me.

1039
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Beggie, by the way, did answer the question, and

1040
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 1>he said, simply, when it came to the crowd's gasp

1041
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:45.479
<v Speaker 1>at seeing I assume on the big screen will Osbury's

1042
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 1>face dripping with blood, was the gasp loud? He said,

1043
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:57.439
<v Speaker 1>it was simply, but it was. Oh, let's move on

1044
01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to thea Kashta, that gorgeous, being lovely and and Kenny Obega.

1045
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.159
<v Speaker 1>What the hell?

1046
01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:16.479
<v Speaker 3>I want to mention that there were so many hipo

1047
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:22.199
<v Speaker 3>violations during that entire match. I'm surprised they weren't fine

1048
01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:28.239
<v Speaker 3>callous having hold of Kenny's medical records, and all everyone

1049
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:32.399
<v Speaker 3>did is talk about where Kenny was was hurt, and

1050
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:36.720
<v Speaker 3>just on and on. I thought they were going to

1051
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:37.479
<v Speaker 3>get in trouble.

1052
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 1>But can I ask you a question? Yeah, did you

1053
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:48.039
<v Speaker 1>know that Kenny Omega had two feet of his intestines removed?

1054
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:51.039
<v Speaker 3>I had heard that. I thought it might be a

1055
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:56.520
<v Speaker 3>vicious rumor on the internet. So yeah, see, Shane is

1056
01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:58.039
<v Speaker 3>even shocked that it happened.

1057
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:03.479
<v Speaker 1>By the way, By the way, Shane, Shane, did you

1058
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:06.319
<v Speaker 1>know that Kenny Omega had two feet of his intestines reboot?

1059
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.880
<v Speaker 2>No idea. I haven't seen a single Kenny Omega match

1060
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:10.359
<v Speaker 2>until I.

1061
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Mean, you can make a drinking game out of that statement.

1062
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Omega is my favorite professional wrestler, uh and I

1063
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I resonate with him because like, uh, like, I'm a weirdo.

1064
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 2>I follow Kenny Omega on the level. I watch his

1065
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:35.560
<v Speaker 2>uh youtubes, I watch his twitch streams. We played the

1066
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:40.920
<v Speaker 2>same video games. Weren't the same RPGs? Kenny Omega rules, Yeah,

1067
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>this match was. Kenny Omega is the best seller of

1068
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:50.199
<v Speaker 2>moves in the history professional wrestling and takeshtra. Holy crap,

1069
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:54.439
<v Speaker 2>this match was fantastic. The like we might get another

1070
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Omega belt collector run, it doesn't even matter this

1071
01:11:57.119 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 2>this could be a revolution for professional wrestling. I'm on

1072
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 2>a tangent. I'm sorry. I love, I love, I love,

1073
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I loved this match. I love, I love Kenny, I

1074
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:13.600
<v Speaker 2>love Takeushta, I liked. I thinksha is fantastic.

1075
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I was lost. I love the Kenny, but

1076
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I was sad that I didn't want anybody to lose

1077
01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:21.760
<v Speaker 1>this match.

1078
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:25.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't either, and I just wanted them just to

1079
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:31.000
<v Speaker 3>be be, just be there and just let it just be.

1080
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:32.800
<v Speaker 1>That was just great.

1081
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:37.439
<v Speaker 2>But no, but ae W was Listen. One of my

1082
01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.960
<v Speaker 2>favorite a W matches was a dark match with Joey

1083
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Janella and Kenny Omega and they dude, Kenny is going

1084
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:49.520
<v Speaker 2>to give us the best matches all the time forever.

1085
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:52.520
<v Speaker 2>He did it in Japan, he did it and developmental

1086
01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:56.279
<v Speaker 2>for excuse me, he did it and did a developmental

1087
01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.720
<v Speaker 2>for Ring of Honor and w w E. Kenny is

1088
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:01.119
<v Speaker 2>going to give us the best matches forever. He is fantastic.

1089
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:04.720
<v Speaker 2>He For those of you that don't believe that he

1090
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:10.760
<v Speaker 2>is not capable of cutting a promo, He's not scripting promos.

1091
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Kenny is Kenny when he cuts his promos, accept it.

1092
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I want Kenny to have this belt and rocket. I

1093
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:21.720
<v Speaker 2>want him to get the other belts and Rocket. I

1094
01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:26.520
<v Speaker 2>want him to unify these intercontinental titles. I want I

1095
01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.920
<v Speaker 2>want to see Kenny do Kenny this way.

1096
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:34.199
<v Speaker 1>What about Taqshta? What do you think's next for Taqueshta?

1097
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Now he's headed to Japan, Yeah, I think he's He's

1098
01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 2>signed with New Japan. Dude, He's gonna go run a

1099
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:43.479
<v Speaker 2>faction in Japan and be a rock star and it's

1100
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna be great. There are dude, he's one of those

1101
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Japanese wrestlers that and he's young. He's going to have

1102
01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:55.479
<v Speaker 2>a job forever and he's fantastic. Yeah great, let him

1103
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.479
<v Speaker 2>rock it out, dude. This is a let nature take

1104
01:13:58.520 --> 01:13:59.479
<v Speaker 2>its core situation.

1105
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, what's your thoughts here on this? Uh Net?

1106
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.760
<v Speaker 3>I think Takesha will go over to Japan for a while.

1107
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:16.960
<v Speaker 3>It's unfortunate that he probably won't take Don Callous with him.

1108
01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:25.000
<v Speaker 3>But I love Kenny Omega. I've loved Kenny Omega forever

1109
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:30.520
<v Speaker 3>and I think that he is going to unify those titles.

1110
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm really looking forward to that match, and I'm I'm

1111
01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:41.439
<v Speaker 3>just glad that Kenny is back. I was honestly looking

1112
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:48.439
<v Speaker 3>a little bit for some surprise support for Kenny in

1113
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:52.479
<v Speaker 3>the form of a bushie. But I'm glad that they

1114
01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:56.199
<v Speaker 3>didn't do it and just let Kenny be out there

1115
01:14:56.319 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 3>by himself telling his story. Uh, and Takesha looked fantastic.

1116
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:08.359
<v Speaker 3>He is by no means a lesser wrestler. He is

1117
01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:12.520
<v Speaker 3>great and he has many, many years of being great

1118
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:16.640
<v Speaker 3>ahead of him. So I just loved it. I love

1119
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 3>just about everything that Kenny Omega does.

1120
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.439
<v Speaker 1>You know I got you know that you brought up

1121
01:15:22.479 --> 01:15:24.439
<v Speaker 1>something and I got to say something and I would

1122
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:30.039
<v Speaker 1>probably get banned from podcasts were saying this. I'm gonna

1123
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.199
<v Speaker 1>say it anyway because I have a question for you.

1124
01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:36.840
<v Speaker 1>This is so tasteless, but it's just, oh no, it's

1125
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:41.880
<v Speaker 1>so me. You know, you brought up Don Kallus not

1126
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:46.840
<v Speaker 1>going to Japan with Takeshta. Yeah, what if he did?

1127
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 1>My question is if Don Kallas goes over to Japan

1128
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's on Japanese TV, would the Japanese production crews

1129
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:57.720
<v Speaker 1>have to pixelate the vagina on Don Kallis's forehead.

1130
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I wish we'd pixelated it here. Oh God, whatever happened

1131
01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:16.159
<v Speaker 3>to that podcast you all were doing.

1132
01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I just this is just the way my mind works

1133
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:25.840
<v Speaker 1>once I get up, once I got it in my head,

1134
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I had to say it. I apologize to everybody for

1135
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:31.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that, because now you know where my mind is.

1136
01:16:37.439 --> 01:16:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I killed Shane.

1137
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:43.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm.

1138
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Done.

1139
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm out, goodbye. I have a good eye, guys, I'm out.

1140
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.720
<v Speaker 1>You know I want to I want to change gears.

1141
01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I know how to keep Shane involved because I'm gonna

1142
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:00.680
<v Speaker 1>bring up this buddy. I'm gonna bring up his buddy,

1143
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Dave Meltzer.

1144
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:06.199
<v Speaker 2>No, I can't say the F word on these podcasts.

1145
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Get the f out of here. No, dude, you're not

1146
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:13.000
<v Speaker 2>going to bring up Meltzer. Leave him alone. He's he's

1147
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:16.159
<v Speaker 2>too busy, bigger critic in an autodideck. Leave him alone.

1148
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:18.680
<v Speaker 1>No, he didn't. He did come out with the story.

1149
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh that uh is actually kind of interesting. Look n

1150
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:28.560
<v Speaker 1>C Double A Basketball March Madness is it's March, so

1151
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it's starting and of course yeah so yeah, so.

1152
01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Like mostly in the March right now. It's not like,

1153
01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:38.760
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, like we're mostly in the March.

1154
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying is that the March Madness,

1155
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.079
<v Speaker 1>which is the n C Double A basketball tournament is

1156
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.640
<v Speaker 1>uh is coming and it's coming to t n T,

1157
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:56.560
<v Speaker 1>which of course is the home of a W Collision.

1158
01:17:57.159 --> 01:18:01.079
<v Speaker 1>So the news coming out today is that it is

1159
01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:05.680
<v Speaker 1>going to affect the Ncuba tournament, is going to affect Collision,

1160
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And this is really interesting. What affected WW on March

1161
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:15.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty second and March twenty third, which is two weeks

1162
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:21.560
<v Speaker 1>from now, Collision runs on the same night as well.

1163
01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Collision would run on the same night as the Ncuba tournament.

1164
01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:32.399
<v Speaker 1>What ALW is, what AW has decided to do is

1165
01:18:32.600 --> 01:18:40.279
<v Speaker 1>that they are going to tape the Collision on Wednesday

1166
01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:46.760
<v Speaker 1>night in Omaha during obviously after Dynamite, Okay, They're going

1167
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:50.720
<v Speaker 1>to break it up into two separate shows, and they

1168
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>are going to air them on the twenty second and

1169
01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:55.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty third, which is a Saturday and Sunday after the

1170
01:18:56.159 --> 01:19:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Ncuba Basketball Tournament games. Now, those games start at eight o'clock,

1171
01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:05.479
<v Speaker 1>so you're looking at probably eleven o'clock. You're gonna have

1172
01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:10.039
<v Speaker 1>a one hour Collision on Saturday night, the twenty second,

1173
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:14.079
<v Speaker 1>and a one hour Collision at Sunday night on the

1174
01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:19.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty third, both of them starting at probably eleven PM.

1175
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.119
<v Speaker 1>And the reason they're doing that is to make them

1176
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:27.239
<v Speaker 1>one hour shows. Is because they feel that if the

1177
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:33.039
<v Speaker 1>show starts at eleven eleven PM, you're gonna lose most

1178
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:36.159
<v Speaker 1>of your audience by the time the show's over at

1179
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:40.039
<v Speaker 1>one am, so they're separating into two shows. I mean,

1180
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a pretty interesting decision for AW to do.

1181
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:48.960
<v Speaker 3>What do you guys think, Try it and see what happens.

1182
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Then, I don't know. Well, the other well, the other

1183
01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing is is that if for some reason the

1184
01:19:57.039 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>eleven pm start, look you're getting, you're getting a great

1185
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:06.479
<v Speaker 1>lead in right from the NCAA tournament. So I don't

1186
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:08.920
<v Speaker 1>think that that can be really used as a factor

1187
01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in the barometer of this. But if the one hour

1188
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:19.239
<v Speaker 1>show works, why not do Shockwave at eleven pm after

1189
01:20:19.560 --> 01:20:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Collision on Saturday night or whatever, or a ten pm

1190
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:26.079
<v Speaker 1>it after Collision on Saturday night. You never know. So

1191
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that was interesting, Shane. You had brought

1192
01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:34.640
<v Speaker 1>up something earlier about well Camille and Wardlow.

1193
01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, oh please listen. I'm a psychopath. I've broken

1194
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.439
<v Speaker 2>news on here that has actually been real, and I

1195
01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:46.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be this guy. I just I like

1196
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:50.079
<v Speaker 2>spend like I'm obsessed with professional wrestling and I love

1197
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the sport and I love the idea of it, and

1198
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I will never stop doing what I do. I'll be

1199
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:57.319
<v Speaker 2>a menace forever.

1200
01:20:59.680 --> 01:20:59.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1201
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.520
<v Speaker 2>So like Camille or where do you want me to

1202
01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:03.239
<v Speaker 2>start with Wardler?

1203
01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, whatever you want.

1204
01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Wardlows from Ohio. He's out there in Los Angeles, like

1205
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:15.560
<v Speaker 2>shooting movies, movies, I think, I think, but he but

1206
01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:18.479
<v Speaker 2>the but they didn't say movies. They said Wardlow's doing

1207
01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:22.680
<v Speaker 2>projects quote unquote. He that that that's what he's doing

1208
01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:28.479
<v Speaker 2>right now, and uh, it's uh, it's comparable to guys

1209
01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that top, guys that like look like bad guys in movies,

1210
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.520
<v Speaker 2>and that's what he's doing. I think the moment more

1211
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:38.960
<v Speaker 2>intriguing thing is the Camille story. So I was doing

1212
01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:45.920
<v Speaker 2>research today on Camille and Camille is in trouble. She's

1213
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:51.199
<v Speaker 2>in trouble because, uh, she is how do I say

1214
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:56.680
<v Speaker 2>this respect I don't know how to say disrespectfully. She's

1215
01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:59.800
<v Speaker 2>being ghosted by her She's being ghosted by her boss

1216
01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:03.279
<v Speaker 2>because she's an asshole and no one wants to deal

1217
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:06.039
<v Speaker 2>with her because she expected to get things from Tony

1218
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Kahan that she's not getting and no one's talking to her.

1219
01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:12.119
<v Speaker 2>She still works for aw she's still getting paid, but

1220
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:14.520
<v Speaker 2>but she's been getting ghosted by her boss.

1221
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And the first time that this has ever happened in AW,

1222
01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:20.159
<v Speaker 1>isn't I.

1223
01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:23.039
<v Speaker 5>This?

1224
01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1225
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, well Camille had some things to say about AW

1226
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:35.560
<v Speaker 2>after she didn't agree with her where her from a

1227
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:38.760
<v Speaker 2>creative direction was headed, and she had some things to

1228
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:40.319
<v Speaker 2>say about this a couple of months ago, and it

1229
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:43.199
<v Speaker 2>went by the wayside and everyone got really quiet about it,

1230
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:46.279
<v Speaker 2>and it's stagnated, and this is where we're at right now.

1231
01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:50.239
<v Speaker 2>So the the rumor, I'm not going to say it's

1232
01:22:50.279 --> 01:22:53.640
<v Speaker 2>a fact. I'm not saying I have breaking news. I

1233
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:56.319
<v Speaker 2>have to say this because I was quoted by SRS.

1234
01:22:57.840 --> 01:22:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I just had to say it plain in his day,

1235
01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:01.720
<v Speaker 2>like this is the This is just like for me

1236
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:06.640
<v Speaker 2>digging in like she is not. She's not doing too

1237
01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:09.880
<v Speaker 2>good right now, So like what's the thought on that?

1238
01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, look, I've said it before and I've

1239
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.039
<v Speaker 1>said it again. You know, when it came to like

1240
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the CM punk stuff and all that. This is the

1241
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>way I look at it. I think he's a wrestler.

1242
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I think he I think he was a whipping boy

1243
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:28.199
<v Speaker 1>in UFC too.

1244
01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:34.439
<v Speaker 2>But look, look, this is the way that you stand

1245
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:36.199
<v Speaker 2>punk was the reason you and I didn't talk for

1246
01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:40.479
<v Speaker 2>two months, Like I fell out of the fan hub

1247
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:45.159
<v Speaker 2>community because I went on full Tinfoil had bullshit over seampunk,

1248
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:48.199
<v Speaker 2>but Camille, like I thought.

1249
01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>That was funny anyway. But anyway, but this is the

1250
01:23:55.760 --> 01:24:00.279
<v Speaker 1>way I look at stuff like this, Shane Buddy, when

1251
01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>it comes to seem punk and anything that said, backstage

1252
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:08.880
<v Speaker 1>reports and stuff like that, if I'm not there, I

1253
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:13.319
<v Speaker 1>don't care, meaning I don't care to give my opinion

1254
01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:18.079
<v Speaker 1>on something because I don't know. I mean, we could speculate,

1255
01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>but that just makes an ass out of you and

1256
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:26.159
<v Speaker 1>me because we're just assuming stuff. We're not talking about facts.

1257
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:29.399
<v Speaker 1>That's that's really my stance on it. I mean, I

1258
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:33.199
<v Speaker 1>really when the whole CM punk and Jack Perry and

1259
01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Tony Kahan thing went down, people were just spewing stuff

1260
01:24:37.720 --> 01:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like they were backstage. I wasn't, so I didn't have

1261
01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>an opinion.

1262
01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, Jack Perry's coming back, Camille's not, and Camille's been

1263
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:51.439
<v Speaker 2>public about her. Camille has been very public about her

1264
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:55.439
<v Speaker 2>relationship to the promotion she's signed to, which makes no

1265
01:24:55.560 --> 01:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>sense because why slammed the person who's sign and page

1266
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:05.479
<v Speaker 2>checks dude, like like that's the thing. And it's like, Camille,

1267
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:10.239
<v Speaker 2>you came from NWA Billy Corgan's promotion, which NWA is

1268
01:25:10.319 --> 01:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>fun and they have a lot of cool stuff going

1269
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:16.159
<v Speaker 2>on over there, and I would like to see, you know,

1270
01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and I want to see all. I love AW. But

1271
01:25:23.159 --> 01:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>but my perspective on professional wrestling is that I want

1272
01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:28.840
<v Speaker 2>to see everyone blow up. I want to see GCW

1273
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:31.560
<v Speaker 2>blow up Jason, I'm not Juggalo. I want to see

1274
01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:34.880
<v Speaker 2>j CW blow up. Yes, seen Steven flow yet he's

1275
01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>fun as hell, Like I want to see people blow

1276
01:25:37.479 --> 01:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>up in other promotions. And she chose to get involved

1277
01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:48.680
<v Speaker 2>with ae W and then and then after she wasn't

1278
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:51.520
<v Speaker 2>getting what she wanted from the promotion, she slandered them

1279
01:25:51.600 --> 01:25:54.560
<v Speaker 2>on on the media. That's what That's what happened. That's

1280
01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:56.399
<v Speaker 2>exactly what happened. That's a fact.

1281
01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe it wasn't that she didn't get what she

1282
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted from the vote from the promotion, or was it

1283
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that the promotion wasn't get what they wanted out of her?

1284
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>You know? Again, That's that's the point I'm making, is

1285
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't there, so I don't know what was

1286
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:12.640
<v Speaker 1>going on. I don't know what was said. I don't

1287
01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>know the details of her contract. I don't know if

1288
01:26:16.279 --> 01:26:18.239
<v Speaker 1>for all we know Mercedes said, look, I don't want

1289
01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:19.439
<v Speaker 1>to work with this person anymore.

1290
01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Why would Mercedes say that she's working with she's.

1291
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:26.199
<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

1292
01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Mercedes, Mercedes, Mercedes relented the willow overseas she put over

1293
01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:40.439
<v Speaker 2>some Mercedes is a consonant for professional Kelson. I spoke

1294
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:46.560
<v Speaker 2>out against Mercedes Monette hard as f when she got signed,

1295
01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:49.239
<v Speaker 2>and you were the person that was like, hey, Shane,

1296
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.680
<v Speaker 2>by the way, she's the reason that women's wrestling is

1297
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:56.600
<v Speaker 2>becoming more relevant. Aw I literally had to take a

1298
01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:59.199
<v Speaker 2>step back and look into that and that you were

1299
01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:04.920
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent right, dude. Camille is a person, and

1300
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>she is a hardworking person and a hard working professional

1301
01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:13.199
<v Speaker 2>that has indiscretions with her boss that are clearly not

1302
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:18.199
<v Speaker 2>being resolved. That's a thing. It's evident. It's a thing.

1303
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm saying it. I'm saying it on the

1304
01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:23.880
<v Speaker 2>podcast behind a microphone.

1305
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, something's going on, something's going.

1306
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:29.199
<v Speaker 2>On, something's going on, something, something's going on. But is

1307
01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it that important that we need to have like like

1308
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>this was just supposed to be like a point in

1309
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.279
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, like, is she that important? No, she was

1310
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:42.079
<v Speaker 2>an NWA champion, she had the opportunity to be a

1311
01:27:42.159 --> 01:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>bigger thing in aw and she's got problems with their

1312
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>boss that she hasn't resolved yet. So figure it out

1313
01:27:48.760 --> 01:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and be there. People want to see you wrestle. You

1314
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:53.800
<v Speaker 2>could either be a presence for your fans or you

1315
01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>could relegate yourself back to a mid car promotion run

1316
01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>by a guy in the Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, yeah, like

1317
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>and do the Smashing pump melancholy And they've been in

1318
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:08.119
<v Speaker 2>sickness ruled but do they.

1319
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's have some fun, you know, get off of

1320
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>this kick. What do we think the Wardlow is doing

1321
01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>right now that he's doing these what are the events.

1322
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:22.039
<v Speaker 2>We are You know, he's playing movies. He's playing a

1323
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:25.039
<v Speaker 2>bad guy in BYD movies and I hope he is Okay,

1324
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:26.920
<v Speaker 2>have any ideas.

1325
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what word though is doing. It could

1326
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:33.840
<v Speaker 3>be a number of things.

1327
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:36.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know.

1328
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:37.439
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

1329
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:40.199
<v Speaker 1>One thing he's not doing is wrestling. I mean he

1330
01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>had at a match schedule that he was pulled from it.

1331
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh so that maybe when that happens that generally means

1332
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:52.239
<v Speaker 1>a return. Uh. Personally, I think word though has been

1333
01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>gone because and of course I want to preface this

1334
01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:59.119
<v Speaker 1>by saying this is pure Kelson speculation. And when I

1335
01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:03.239
<v Speaker 1>say Kelson's spelation, you can replace Kelson speculation with one

1336
01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>word stupid. So I think that Wardlow is, as Shane said,

1337
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>filming not nine but a movie. Uh. He is doing

1338
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the Richard gear role in Pretty Woman with Sidney Sweeney

1339
01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:20.479
<v Speaker 1>and the Julia Roberts role.

1340
01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, why can't I say the effort on this podcast, Kelson?

1341
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly you know what I'm not gonna do. I'm

1342
01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>not gonna do Shane, Shit, that's what you think about.

1343
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>You've seen You've seen Wardlow in a suit. The dude

1344
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>looks like your rich playboy bro.

1345
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:46.079
<v Speaker 2>He worked at the bar I get myself, you know,

1346
01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:49.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got my I was. I get myself

1347
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>in trouble for talking about stuff.

1348
01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I know.

1349
01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Hey Wardlow, I've seen you in a suit at the

1350
01:29:55.399 --> 01:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Barley House at West Sixth in downtown Ohio.

1351
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Dude, way, well, well, well, well, what what's the thing?

1352
01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't dude? That's a thing.

1353
01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:10.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a thing you gotta say I don't know. I

1354
01:30:10.199 --> 01:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have to. You're gonna make me look it up.

1355
01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Just tell me what the Barley house is inquiring.

1356
01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>A bar owned by a douchebag dude. He cut Wardlow

1357
01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>cut his He cut his jib in the Pennsylvania like

1358
01:30:26.920 --> 01:30:29.159
<v Speaker 2>my book, Tyler, Listen.

1359
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:34.399
<v Speaker 1>You're not saying anything. Listen, I need a.

1360
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Second to get my words together, Like Wardlow was built

1361
01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>out of the Pennsylvania system. And he was built out

1362
01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:44.199
<v Speaker 2>of the same system that Adam Cole and Britt Baker

1363
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:47.039
<v Speaker 2>came out of. And and he is a rock star,

1364
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and we I want Wardlow back. I believe that he

1365
01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>has the potential to be a top guy in aw

1366
01:30:54.359 --> 01:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>but but he's habitually injured. He is seven foot something,

1367
01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>what is he six?

1368
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's that big. He just looks tall.

1369
01:31:07.880 --> 01:31:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, let's let's listen. I have no evidence as

1370
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to what Wardlow is doing in Las Vegas. I only

1371
01:31:18.079 --> 01:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>know that he's an Ohio guy. That's what I know.

1372
01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>He's been there.

1373
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of returns, how excited are we about Eddie Kingston.

1374
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's been.

1375
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh God, I am beside myself. Give you with joy.

1376
01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Kelson's doing a bed.

1377
01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm out.

1378
01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:45.119
<v Speaker 2>What can I guys?

1379
01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:49.479
<v Speaker 1>What are you look?

1380
01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why Edie.

1381
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I won't be a co conspirator to this. I'm out.

1382
01:31:57.720 --> 01:31:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm out.

1383
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And disrespect.

1384
01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean? I'm showing brother, I love you.

1385
01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not showing you no disrespect. I am out of this.

1386
01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I love Eddie Kingston.

1387
01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>To this podcast so he knows.

1388
01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I hope everybody listens to this podcast because they should.

1389
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>This is like these these spaces are important for professional

1390
01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:35.560
<v Speaker 2>wrestling because you've got to let a tribal a lot

1391
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:38.079
<v Speaker 2>of tribalism and a lot of places, but it's not

1392
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>it's very rare to have an organic perspective from fans

1393
01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>that are not angry or spiteful or jaded or manipulated

1394
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>by the narrative. And this is a place where we

1395
01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity, We have an opportunity, we have the

1396
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>responsibility and an opportunity to say, Hey, this is what

1397
01:32:57.960 --> 01:33:02.520
<v Speaker 2>it is you need to say, you need to say.

1398
01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I love Eddie Kingston, right, I.

1399
01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Love Eddie Kingston. I'm literally sitting here just drenched in sweat,

1400
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>anticipating and this is right now. But you know, you know,

1401
01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>but Shane, what you said is right. You know, this

1402
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>is what the AAW fan Hub is about. We want

1403
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to have fun wrestling. I said it earlier. It's not

1404
01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>rocket science. It's fun. It's fun. It's supposed to be escapism.

1405
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 1>We want to escape. We don't mind people coming in

1406
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:41.359
<v Speaker 1>with different opinions. We have ww fans on this podcast.

1407
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:47.159
<v Speaker 1>We have WWE fans on the AEW fan Hub subreddit that, honestly,

1408
01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't appreciate, not saying that they don't like They

1409
01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:55.039
<v Speaker 1>don't appreciate AW as much as they appreciate WWE. But

1410
01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what, they come on there and they're civil

1411
01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and they make they put effort into their comments, and

1412
01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:07.199
<v Speaker 1>they make a point without being condescending. They ask questions,

1413
01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>they state why they may not enjoy something as much

1414
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>as what they're preferred. Promotion is. That's fine. We don't

1415
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>take bias against that. We only care about the people

1416
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>that have an opinion that are willing to share it

1417
01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and be part of the community, not against it or

1418
01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a detriment to it.

1419
01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:35.319
<v Speaker 2>It should be a benon Kelson, I'm gonna double down.

1420
01:34:35.479 --> 01:34:37.279
<v Speaker 2>It should be a community because we're all here for

1421
01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>the same reason. Brother, we love professional wrestling. And we

1422
01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>all come from a place where we grew in it,

1423
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and we should not use it as a platform to

1424
01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>spread hate or vitual. We're all here for the same

1425
01:34:52.079 --> 01:34:55.359
<v Speaker 2>reason to see cool stuff. Like you disagree, well, look,

1426
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:59.119
<v Speaker 2>we could disagree with each other about how we perceive

1427
01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:02.720
<v Speaker 2>things to be happening, but at the end of the day,

1428
01:35:03.359 --> 01:35:06.359
<v Speaker 2>we're all gonna still meet here in the middle and say,

1429
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>hey man, it's happening and it can't happen.

1430
01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Look, we have the Wrestling Hub Discord server. It's a

1431
01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>very active server, and we have AW fans, WWE fans,

1432
01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>New Japan fans, Joshi fans, Lujah fans, Indie fans. There's

1433
01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about everything every day. Am I right or am

1434
01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I wrong?

1435
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>You my brother, you're right.

1436
01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:38.159
<v Speaker 1>All right. When's the last time you saw anybody have

1437
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a tribalistic spat on that server? And I haven't. I

1438
01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:48.199
<v Speaker 1>haven't either. I can't remember the last time I've ever

1439
01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>had to remove a post other than somebody accidentally posting

1440
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>a spoiler in the wrong channel or something like that.

1441
01:35:54.840 --> 01:35:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Those are the only posts that get removed, you know,

1442
01:35:57.239 --> 01:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and they can just repost it, you know, in the

1443
01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>proper channel. But my point is is that WWE fans

1444
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and a w fans can get along because WWE fans

1445
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and a W fans on our discord server are talking

1446
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to each other, and they talk to each other a

1447
01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>lot about a lot of different things.

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01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Heyn some of the coolest things that that that's happened. Dude,

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01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of cool things happening happening in

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01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>w W E two and AW is my preferred flavor

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01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>of professional wrestling at the end of the day. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>take it. Let's take the take this at base value.

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01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:33.159
<v Speaker 2>We're all here for the same reason. And Kelson said

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01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:38.119
<v Speaker 2>it escapism. If it's not escapism to you, it's something

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01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:41.079
<v Speaker 2>you're genuinely passionate about. And let's all be here for

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01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:45.399
<v Speaker 2>each other. Don't don't talk shit to someone just because

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01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>they disagree with you, and and don't spread misinformation because

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01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:51.479
<v Speaker 2>we need more of the real out there. We want

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01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to see the cool stuff that's happening, and we all

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01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>got to get together for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, go ahead, net I'll give your name out.

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01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:07.079
<v Speaker 3>I was speaking of cool stuff. Did you see the

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01:37:07.199 --> 01:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>news about Mr.

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01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Where's Me?

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01:37:11.039 --> 01:37:14.560
<v Speaker 3>He and his wife have gotten back together, renewed their

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01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:15.359
<v Speaker 3>wedding bounce.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, isn't that sweet?

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01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:19.640
<v Speaker 2>J got back together?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, but that's that's that's that's good news. I

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01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those weird people that like to see

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01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>people be happy instead of miserable. Mean, you know, and

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01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>so if they're at the obviously they were obviously in love.

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01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah before Uh, it sounds to me like they had

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01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a disagreement or whatever. Again, I

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01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. Uh, they split up, they got back together

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01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:50.199
<v Speaker 1>for forever. I mean, I think that's great news. Yeah,

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01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that that That actually made my night.

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<v Speaker 2>That made It's a good wrap up to this Podkelson. Yeah,

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01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:00.439
<v Speaker 2>we get to we get to go out a good

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01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>note outside of aw.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, Well, Dynamites tomorrow night. All we talk right

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01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>after Dynamite. Maybe we do get swear Strickland calling out

1483
01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>John Moxley and winning the championship in the first thirty

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01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>seconds of the show. We can I can dream, I

1485
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>can dream. Hey we may see Speedball Mike Bailey, Oh god,

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01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's.

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01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:36.319
<v Speaker 2>So many we have so many prospects on their way

1488
01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>to aw speed My goodness.

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01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I love I love Speedball, Mike.

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01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I know hey, we got Look, look, there's gonna be

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01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>some There's gonna I mean, we've already known that MJF

1492
01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:52.840
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be there tomorrow night and speaking live, which

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01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>is always a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Look, we have stories that need to be furthered, We

1496
01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>have stories that need to be begun, so you know,

1497
01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:09.479
<v Speaker 1>and the way that Dynamite and Collision have been running

1498
01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:12.479
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five, specifically ever since they joined Max,

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01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:15.199
<v Speaker 1>it's just hit a little bit different, and I mean

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01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that in a very positive way. I expect tomorrow night's

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01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:24.039
<v Speaker 1>show to be very much worth watching, and I hope

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01:39:24.079 --> 01:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you'll watch it with us in our live chat on

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01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:28.439
<v Speaker 1>the aw fanub subreddit and of course on a wrestling

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01:39:28.479 --> 01:39:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Hub discord, and you'll join us tomorrow night to talk

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01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>about Dynamite right here on our discord the Wrestling Hub

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01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:39.720
<v Speaker 1>for the aw fan Hub podcast team.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Kelson, This is Shane die Bud.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Nat. Good night, everybody, good night, any in

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<v Speaker 1>Yah