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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for

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Ignition with the A and W fanhob podcast team. We're

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gonna talk about Revolution and several other things that are

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going on in the A W. Is a universal galaxy.

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I think it's galaxy.

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Speaker 2: Right, galaxy Strata, sphere.

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Speaker 1: Stratus, spear. Thanks Shane, But anyway, this is Kelson, This

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is Shane D. Shane. What do you want to talk

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about first?

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Speaker 2: I mean Revolution, Let's talk about the show, dude, Like

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you know, it's really frustrated. Like I'm gonna say this plane.

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I think Revolution was fantastic. There are a lot of

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people saying that this is a contender for pay per

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view of the Year for all of professional wrestling, and

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the big gripe is the headlining match, and we'll get there.

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We'll get there. But like I think, all in all,

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it was a fantastic event. I think they did a

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lot for exposition. I did a lot. I think they

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did a lot for storytelling, and I think that all

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of the matches were really, really, really good, especially the

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women's match. I mean the women's match currently, metrically, according

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to Cage Matches, one of the highest rated women's women's

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matches in the history of women's professional wrestling. It jumped

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all the way up the top five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh hey, the women's matches I thought were really good.

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I thought Momo and Mercedes knocked it out at the

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park too. Uh not. I mean, I'm sure you watched

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the pay per view. You were in the live chat,

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so unless you were making shit up as we were

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going along, what did you What did you think.

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Speaker 3: The women's matches? I really liked overall. I liked the

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whole pay per view. Yeah, I liked a lot of

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the storytelling. You know, I'm big on the storytelling, So

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I liked the business between Swerve and Prince Nana. Don

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Callus was really on point every time he was out there.

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Speaker 1: And he was very callous, like yeah, very much.

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Speaker 2: So what a bad night, family though, I mean like,

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oh oh yeah, I mean like everybody lost. They set

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up so many future stories and this path and Don

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Speaker 1: You don't want to want to ask both of you guys,

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because Shane, you just said that they set up more

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future stories. But do you think that Revolution wrapped up

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some stories as well? And if so, which which ones

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do you think wrapped up. You don't think that the

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Mariah May and Tony Storm saga is wrapped up, at

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least for now.

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Speaker 2: If you're asking me, no, I don't think it's over.

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I think that we just gave Mariah May a nuclear missile.

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My god, guys in the history of women's professional professional wrestling,

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like we were just given a treat. We were giving

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something so special. This is how I wanna sell ninety eight.

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We were like it was one of the This is

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one of the greatest women's professional wrestling matches in history.

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And I think this is gonna give Mariah May a

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reason to come back. I think they're gonna put a

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lid on it for a couple of weeks, and she's

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gonna pop back into the picture. I think Tony Storm's

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performance was top tier. I think, in my crappy, less

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than humble opinion, Tony Storm is right now with the

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goad of women's professional wrestling.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Even think w I don't even think WWE fans would

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are argue that. I've seen plenty of WWE fans just

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complimenting Tony Storm on everything she's doing. Of course, the

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bad faith actors would say stuff like trash. You know,

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put no effort into that. They say, you know, but yeah,

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but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I'm going

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to put you and Net on the spot here. Other

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than let's let's not talk about Tony Storm and Mariah

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May specifically right now, let's talk about the overall scope

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of the of the pay per view. If you had

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to pick one thing other than Mariah Man Tony Storm

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that stood out for you, what was it.

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Speaker 3: Let's see that's all you met.

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Speaker 1: If you want, I'll say what I was gonna say. Okay, yeah, okay,

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Well here's the thing that stood out for me. This

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had this pay per view had like six matches that

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were for titles. Of course, only one title switched hands.

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and then we had one match that was I guess

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you would just call it a rivalry. That of course

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was MGF and hang Man Attam Paige. I think the

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thing that stood out for me was that aw proved

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a revolution that you can have a meaningful match with

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no title involved. I mean, Hangman and MGF put on

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a banger and frankly speaking, the Swerve, Strickland and Ricochet match,

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even though the number one contendership was up for grabs

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on that I didn't feel like that was the centerpiece

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of the I thought that the actual story that they

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had built, as far as their you know, hatred, I

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guess for each other, the rivalry that they established took

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precedence over even the number one contendership. I literally watched

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this match to see who's going to beat the crap

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out of each other more, not wondering who is going

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to come out as the number one contender for theaw

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World title. So that's my thought. I just thought that

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the two matches that really didn't have a title on

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the on the line were terrific and it proved that

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you don't have to have a title defense for a

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match to be meaningful.

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Speaker 2: Kelson say a lot of for people in the back,

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because people, I mean people in the IWC are being

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critical of the fact that some of these matches looked predetermined,

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and unfortunately I have to be the guy to say that,

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you know that there there's want to be controversy with

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this pay per view because of the Queen of the

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pay per view with a person that's not even involved

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with professional wrestling that was handed a microphone. I sure Swerve,

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and Fletcher and Osprey absolute banger.

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Speaker 1: Every that's right. That wasn't for a title either. That

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just seemed like it was for a title. That seemed

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like everything was on the line. I mean, how could

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I forget Fletcher and Osprey? I apologize, you're geez.

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Speaker 2: I did nothing to apologize, brother, nothing to apologize for.

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and moving stories forward. And even if you don't like

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the story that's being told, they took some necessary liberties

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in storytelling to move the book. I don't I like

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i'd like in making statement. I don't know if I

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should say, hey, man, like I with a with the

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headlining match with with Mox versus Cody, I believe there's

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a the greater community believes that Mox versus Cope sucked.

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and murdered it, and the Christian came out there and

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did his thing. It was a thing. But they did

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one of the smartest things they could have done. They

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squashed a stupid story, and unfortunately they did it in

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a stupid way, but they did it in a smart

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way to move the story forward, like, well, now we

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have nothing but like a complete clean slate. It's a

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clean slate for so many stories right now that I

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think are gonna be really awesome.

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Speaker 1: And I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum and

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I and I'm going to say this for two reasons.

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First of all, this story with John Moxley and the

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Death Writers began in September of twenty twenty four, all out.

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That's where Max he put the plastic bag over Brian

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Danielson's head, didn't try to murder him. And if you remember,

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for what two or three weeks after that incident, it

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was like a running joke, who's going to get you know,

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assaulted this week on AW I mean, who's what attempted

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murderer is going to happen? And then that kind of

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quieted down and the whole Death Writers thing became I

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don't have to tell you, it became repetitive, It stagnated,

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it became uninteresting, people lost interest in it. And I

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can say that with confidence because I read the comments

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on the aw fan Hub Subred and on the aw

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fan Hub Blue Sky and on the Wrestling Hub Discord.

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You know, some people stayed invested in it, giving it

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their best shot. Even those people, some of them turned.

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That's one of the problems that I had with this

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match is that it was not It didn't do anything

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to further the story if it made it more convoluted

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to me and much more uninteresting. You yeah, Shane, what

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you said is true. It went to a clean slate.

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We now have a clean slate. They should have done

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the clean slate in September because this slate should have

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never been filled because it was stupid and it's just

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like insulting of your intelligence. You know how bad this

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story has been for months now. The second thing I

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will say about this match, now you alluded, Shane, I

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believe it was you'd had said that this match, well,

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that the Osprey and Fletcher match should have been the

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main event. You had matches that were verifiably bangers, very athletic.

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as much so, but they were still fun. And the

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two matches that I'll point out are the Hurt Syndicate

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and the Outrunners. It was a fun match, but there

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was no doubt who was going to win that match,

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and frankly, in the chats that we had, the match

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went on a little bit too long. It should have

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been a squash. It really should have. The other match

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was Okata versus brody King. Brody King did a fantastic

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job there, and it was a physical match. It was

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a fun match, and there were a lot of as

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Simon Miller would say, one two oohs. But look, we

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all knew brody King wasn't gonna win that match. You know,

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I don't think anybody picked the brody King to win this,

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even though some people said that he should should have.

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it would have been a good thing. It wouldn't necessarily

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been a bad thing if Okata had lost. But the

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problem that I had with the main event is that,

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compared to the other matches, for me, Moxley and Hopeland

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looked like they were being filmed in slow motion, and

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only the accompanying commentary proved that it wasn't. It was

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a slow match. It was a plotting match. It just

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didn't fit with the rest of revolution. I've heard people

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say that it should have been the first match, but

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the first match was MGF and Hangman, and I called it.

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If you remember last week, I did say MJF and Hangman,

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We're gonna be the first match. But I'm gonna let

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you guys talk now. But I do want to make

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one other point, and this may be controversial, but I

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truly believe this. Of the eight a W championship titles

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or belts, yeah, well, titles because the trios have more

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than one belt and so does the tag. But of

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the eight AW championship titles, I honestly believe at this

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point that the most insignificant of all the titles is

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the AW World Championship by far, not even close, and

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it should be the top priority championship. And it's not

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how do you feel about how do you guys feel

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about the championship? But how did you feel about this

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match and everything else that went along with it? Because

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to me, whatever happened at the end of this match,

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it's just not even worth wasting my breath talking about Matt.

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Speaker 2: You want to go first, I guess I'll go first. Okay,

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do you want to go first.

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Speaker 3: No, it's okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important to acknowledge that we as professional

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wrestling fans, have spent most of our time as professional

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wrestling fans watching the same product. I gotta be that person,

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the WWE person, you know, like a lot of fans

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don't have that distinction between how we were led to

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believe these stories are supposed to be told because they've

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been told the same way for so long, and how

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things are happening when things are happening differently. Now I

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understand the criticism. I understand the criticism with the headlining match,

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I really do. And I understand not pulling this belt

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off of John Moxley as well. I understand not putting

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this belt on Cope or Christian, But I also understand

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that it needed to be used as a device to

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end the money in the bank clone that that that

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has been stagnating in the story for so long, and

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now we have again a clean slate for what's happening

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with the aw World Championship. We had a couple belts

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in this in this pay per view that traded hands.

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That had to happen, and you can't say, hey, man,

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like I don't be so entitled to believe as a

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professional wrestling fan that things are supposed to happen because

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they've happened the same way before in other places, other

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promotions or with other championships. Like like, it is what

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it is, and if you saw it come and cool man, like,

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it is what it is. At the end of the day,

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I think it was more important to drop the money

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in the bank thing with Christian. I think it was

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more important to give some relevance to John Moxley as

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a competent champion and he is and he's gonna hold

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this belt and he's gonna be a rock star and

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he's fantastic and he should hold it because who's gonna

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get him right now.

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Speaker 1: That's the point that we'll talk about after we hear

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Nett's point of view on this.

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Speaker 3: Well, for me, I'm a little tired of all of

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the belts, and I'm definitely tired of the death Riders.

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They had something really good going on, like you were saying,

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Kelson back in September, that whole thing with Danielson thrilled

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me to no end, and they lost the momentum for that,

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and ever since they lost that, they've lost me, and

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I'm sure they've lost a lot of other people. I'm

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starting to I don't know if it's from doing the

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podcast or from having been a wrestling fan for so

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very long, but I for when I'm starting to see

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the predictability in things and being able to have a

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pretty good idea of where aw is going with things,

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and I don't like that so much. I like being

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surprised and things going the opposite way that I thought

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that they were. So I'm starting to feel like it's

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getting a little bit stale. The matches are great, a

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lot of the storytelling is great, but I'm beginning to

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be able to follow what's going on and I wish

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there was a little bit less of that. So they

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need to find a way to turn that around for

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those of us that kind of maybe have figured things

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out so right, Yeah, that's yeah, That's kind of where

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Revolution left me. Is like I could see a lot

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of puzzle pieces falling into place.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go debt, if you wouldn't mind. I

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wanted to go to our our audience really in the chat,

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because they had a few things to say here. Jets

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Fan says that Ricochet is going to cause Swerve to lose.

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I assume he meant to Moxley when he does get

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his World Championship title match. Steve had a couple of

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comments saying that Jay White is in line to be

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a contender I assume again for the aw World Championship.

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But he did go on to say that Eddie Kingston

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is going to defeat him. And then there's Benji who

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just simply said, Swerves house, you know, and I think

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you can't say whose house without responding with we could

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do this for another hour.

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Speaker 3: I think Swerve is going to come out on top again.

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And oh that's something about he and Ricochet that I forget.

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I love that they did that entire match and no

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one got stabbed with scissors. I love that they did that.

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Speaker 1: That that's a really really interesting point that I didn't

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even think of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought they were going to bring out

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the scissors and they didn't, and that that.

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Speaker 1: Guy wanted they wanted to make the screwdriver more special.

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In all honesty, you know, let's let's talk amongst ourselves here,

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and who do you think is going to be the

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one to unseat John Moxley? And maybe more importantly, when.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean if you want that not. You made

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a very poignant uh statement, like it's clear that Tony

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Kahan is falling into this trope of mimicking former professional

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wrestling stories. I'm gonna say it. I'm going to be

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very very very clear in saying it. This. This isn't

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anything that we haven't seen before. I think that Tony

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considers All In to be his WrestleMania and that if

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and when John Moxley drops, that's gonna happen at this

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pay per view. If I were to take a wild

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guest right now, I put the belt on Swerve.

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Speaker 1: Why not.

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Speaker 2: Swerve is convincing, Swerve is technical, Swerve is calculated, Swerve

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is over, you know, and I think the only person

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in the conversation to you know, really contest that would

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be Hangman at a page. But that's why they put

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him at the beginning of the pay per view, you know,

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like like Hangman is now the guy again and they're

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gonna build him up. So you got the final Boss

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versus the Boss. Ricochet looked cool as hell in that match.

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Don't get me wrong, I don't think he has a

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greater lasting uh standing and going for a world championship

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now I think he's going to be a continental and intercontinental.

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He's going to be a mid card champion. That's what

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Ricochet is. And I hate to.

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Speaker 1: Say, what about what about the TNT.

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Speaker 2: Title with Daniel Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're Ricochet beating Garcia for the talk for the

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dn T title.

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Speaker 2: Yo, dude, that's you know, cool man, cool idea. That's

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all I could say.

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Speaker 1: Out there.

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Speaker 2: If Garcia isn't defending it on every single regular show,

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why is that even a conversation? I mean, like, yeah,

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I mean it's the same thing as the trios Yeah, yeah,

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it's the same thing as the trios titles. Like like,

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if it's not being defended, if they're not making them

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look important, they're not important. And something you said at

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the beginning of this conversation, Kelson, which I were that

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and agree with completely, is that you know, the World

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Championship is not the most important type, same thing with

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the Women's World champion With the Women's World Championship is

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now the most important women's world championship in the history

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professional wrestling in AW The TNT Championship also is fantastic

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now and something that could be defended in other promotions,

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But the Men's World Championship in AAW looks like a

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consolation prize that might belong to Wheeler you to someday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well look let's get the nets. Thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I'm having trouble with my mute. I don't

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think that the Men's AW Championship is all that that

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funny business with carrying it around in the briefcase. I

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don't know. I like to see the belts. I like

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them to hold the belts up and bow that they

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have them, and have that arrogance about them, and you know,

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defending the belt anywhere anytime anyone here. I am. I've

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got the belt. I don't feel like that about the

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Men's Championship, that they need to turn that around somehow.

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I don't see Ricochet doing it. I can see Swerve

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doing it, and I can see Hangman helping him do it.

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That's what I think is going to happen, because Hangman

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is starting to have that kindness to him and I

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can see him wanting to uplift Swerve and help him

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out a little bit, have Swerve be where he was

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once upon a time. And they need to change it quick.

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And I'm really tired of the trios beelts. That's something

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that I feel like they can do away with, so.

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Speaker 1: Especially since the holders at the Trio's belt are fa

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out with injury.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, they can do away with.

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Speaker 1: The perfect, perfect opportunity to just say, you know what,

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let's just give it ato Trio's belt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to go to something that Benji said, Well,

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actually Benji's brother in chat said, Uh. He says that

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Swerve is going to win the AW World title at

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Dynasty and then lose it to Hangman at him page

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at all in it wishes that they melted the Trios

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Championship down. Look, got I gotta say, I gotta say

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really three things real quick. Number one, Net, I agree

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with you one hundred percent that the AW World Championship

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needs to be seen. The whole thing with mocks being

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the physical embodiment of the World Championship is literally the

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dumbest ship I've ever heard in my life, because it

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is dumb. Uh. The second thing I'll say about that

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is human beings things are extremely visual in what they

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like and don't like. For example, men don't go out

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men and women don't go out and buy the Sports

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Illustrated Swimsuit issue to read the articles.

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Speaker 3: That has articles.

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Speaker 1: Allegedly allegedly. I mean there's pages that don't have don't have,

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you know, bikinis on them and swimsuits on them, so

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I've assume that they're either advertisements or articles.

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Speaker 2: US don't do that because I'm gonna have to and

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be crazy.

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Speaker 1: The last, the last thing that I get to say

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about this is that Swerve is now the number one

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contender on this week's Dynamite. The show should open with

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Swerve coming out, calling out John Moxley, squashing him in

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thirty minutes, opening the briefcase, putting the belt around his

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waist and get on with business. People are saying. Benjie

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said that his brother said that Swerve should win it

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at Dynasty and that some people are saying Eddie Kingston

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at all in or whatever. That's way too long. I'm

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sorry this needs to end now because I am adamant

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about this. I don't have the numbers, but I know

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as Look, I am as big an AW fan as

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there is, okay uh, and I have no interest in

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the AW World Championship right now. I have no interest

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in John Moxley, I have no interest in the death Writers.

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And this is somebody that was like over the moon

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with the Blackpool Combat Club, the biggest fan at the

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Blackpool Combat Club there was. But this whole shift it

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same guys, but different story. This needs to end now

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I know the.

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Speaker 2: Period, the same guys, different story. Let's divert to the

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trioers titles because in the past, when people have been injured,

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they have lifted belts off of them and transition them

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to other talents in the locker room and call them

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intrim championships. So if we have someone that's going to

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be out for an extended period of time, Tony, what

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are you doing, bro, pull the trigger to drop the

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title off of them. Put a tournament on and let's

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get some trios going. In terms of John Moxley to

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earn the championship, mox did the thing. Mox is the winner.

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Max is gonna get He's the guy. Whether you like

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it or not, Like that's the that's the thing that's

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going on right now. You could hate it, and you

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should hate it. You should hate it because that's what

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they want you to do. And that's professional wrestling. How

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many times had go ahead?

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Speaker 1: I disagree with you, Shane, Yeah, they want you to

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hate it. They don't want it, to hate it to

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the point where you're not watching it. And I have

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seen so many people, including myself, how many times have

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I said it was that has said I. I literally

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said this about the main event before it was announced

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for Revolution. I hope that John Moxley against whomever he's

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fighting is the main event at Revolution because I want

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to go to bed early. I truly believe that this

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storyline is losing viewers, it's losing interest in aw because

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they devote so much time to it and it's not working.

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Why would you watch any TV show that isn't working.

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And it's to me, it's disrespectful to people like Swerve

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and Ricochet and Tony Storm and Mariah May who are

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putting their hearts and soul into everything that they're doing.

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And then you have John Moxley and the death writers

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come out and everybody that's been involved with it just

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passionless bullshit. I'm sorry, that's the way I feel about it.

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Speaker 2: Don't apologize. Man, You're not the only person that feels

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the way. They'll like like the it invoked a feeling

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out of you. That was what it was intended to do.

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But you know what, that's the cool thing about professional

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or wrestling that these situations are designed, are designed to

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force fandoms to disagree. I I if I disagree with like,

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I'll be the one person. Holy crap, am I gone? No?

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Oh my god, the computers doing a weird thing like yeah,

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I'm still here. Like, though I disagree with you, I

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don't think that's the case. And I think that the

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head I think that match needed to happen. I think

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they needed to rip that money in the bank thing

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away from Christian and put it on a different trajectory.

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And I think that the death Riders needed to be relevant,

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just so it gives context towards what the next step is.

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If we're building factions, we could have the Bull Club

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again with J White. J White was a factor in

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this match, and and and Cope could be a fact

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u U Cope having a faction of his own, but

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that tr could be a factor as well. That could

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you could build other stories out of these ideas. They

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created a landscape for new ideas, and I think it's important.

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Speaker 1: Agree with you. I agree, I absolutely agree with you.

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I absolutely acknowledge it. But in my mind, the reason

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and they had to get that money in the bank

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contract off of Christian because it's you know, it seems

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like it's it seems like he's had it since all

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in uh, the first one in London. You know, I

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don't know what he's had it for months, but yeah.

473
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you as well.

474
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,079
I wanted when he catched it in. I wanted him

475
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:53,359
to win it because I like I and everyone would

476
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,039
hate the idea of Christian holding the world championship. But

477
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:59,319
that's cool as hell. You're getting something that's not happening

478
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:02,599
anywhere else wrestling. Let him come out of the woodwork

479
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,960
and take it off a mox with Cope in the background,

480
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,279
and give the rest of the locker room an opportunity

481
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,279
to rise up and do something crazy. I think the

482
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:16,599
only mistake they made in this uh, in this final

483
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,000
match was not putting this belt on Christian, doing the

484
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:23,160
TNA thing, doing the Bangkok thing. What's the capital? What's

485
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200
the capital Thailand? It's Bangcock. They should have done the

486
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:26,759
same thing.

487
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: They should I thought it was t. I thought it

488
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,880
was t.

489
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,359
Speaker 2: You watch more women's wrestling than once, it might be.

490
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,319
Speaker 1: You know, I know, I know all the capitals of

491
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:43,599
all the states and all the countries.

492
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,359
Speaker 2: So, oh, you know better than we do right now,

493
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,799
I I Kelson. Let me ask you, dude, if you

494
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,559
were to rate like a They rated this as a

495
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:59,680
five and a half star pay per view. The I disagree. Listen,

496
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,119
I'm gonna say something controversial. Ciskel and Ebert controlled the

497
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,400
rating system for movies for thirty six years. They were

498
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,200
the standard for rating movies and what people looked to

499
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:16,640
in newspapers before they went to see movies. I don't

500
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,480
I didn't agree with it then, but it existed for

501
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:25,000
a reason. Meltzer has been around forever. He's been reviewing

502
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,640
professional wrestling shows since the eighties. I think he has

503
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,240
a right to say what is good and what is not.

504
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,839
You he does, Yeah, well everyone who's a fan does.

505
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,000
That's it's fair. But this is a guy like it.

506
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Look do you know about Meltzer's resume? Look at look

507
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,200
it up, dude. The dude's of political sciences major. That's

508
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,720
the thing. The dude is not an idiot. He's not

509
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:51,880
an idiot. Like he knows professional wrestling. He called Revolution

510
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,880
of five star pay per view. I think it was

511
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,319
a pot.

512
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,559
Speaker 1: Well, let's put it this way, wrestling is at its

513
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,160
best what it doesn't cater to, uh, rocket scientists. I

514
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,720
don't want to say that it caters to idiots, but

515
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:10,039
it caters to the everyman. It's an escape, it's escapism.

516
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,639
You know, you shouldn't have to think if you don't

517
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,800
want to. There should be enough in there that just

518
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,400
happens that you can enjoy and the story tells itself.

519
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,840
It doesn't have to be rocket science. And look, I

520
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,679
respect Dave Meltzer's ratings simply because he's a fan like

521
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,440
me and like you and like net. You know, he

522
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,079
gives his ratings. Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don't.

523
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, honestly, I hard to refute that statement. Kelson.

524
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:46,280
I respect your opinion because you are the one of

525
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,920
the more educated people on our server on professional wrestling history.

526
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,880
You've been around for a long time. Brother, But like

527
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,960
I am intelligant, I'm just saying, trying to flew job,

528
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,440
just saying I'm bro I'm saying what it is, dude,

529
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,079
Like you were around for the w CW days.

530
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:10,079
Speaker 1: This brought for to Georgia Championship for Wrestling Days that

531
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,000
which that became essentially w cw S.

532
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: Well, this pay per view was Bash at the Beach

533
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:20,280
ninety eight adjacent They this it was some of the

534
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,320
coolest matches that in professional wrestling that have happened in

535
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,880
the past three to six months happened on this pay

536
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,280
per view. My god, we're talking, We're killing We're talking

537
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,440
this uh this mox match to death. And I understand

538
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,320
the controversy, but let's talk about the the best match

539
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,519
on the whole entire card, the women's match in the

540
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:45,960
Ospray match. The women's match was, my guy, it was cinematic,

541
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,519
it was it was amazing. It's brilliant.

542
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,639
Speaker 1: You want you want to hear something controversial.

543
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: Shane, dude, please do something right now.

544
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:05,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something crazy, right, I agree with you.

545
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:11,199
The Mariah May and Tony Storm match with cinema, it

546
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:19,880
was superb. It was fantastic. Absolutely, I am not saying

547
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,039
that it wasn't. I want to make that clear. The

548
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:28,280
Mercedes Monet and Momo Watana Bee match was better. That's

549
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:35,519
my idea. I love I love the striking in that match. Well,

550
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,079
let's face it, it was Momo doing the striking. She beat

551
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:43,440
the living hell out of Mercedes Monet. She destroyed her.

552
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:49,599
And I'm saying this. Understand that what I'm saying this

553
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,840
is that that's the kind of match I like. I

554
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:59,079
like the toe to toe beating the crap out of

555
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:03,400
each other match without doing those stupid chops. I hate

556
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,519
the chops, you know, you know, I mean, chops are

557
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,320
cool when you do two or three. When you do

558
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:12,079
one hundred and fifty six in a match, it's a

559
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:17,360
little much. Uh you know, I mean, you know, if

560
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,400
you want, if you ever having trouble sleep in a night,

561
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:28,079
count uh count tomohiro Ishi chops. But whether he's given

562
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:32,840
him or taking him, he doesn't matter. Whatever God forbid,

563
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,000
you put Eddie Kinks to the Tomo hero Ishi in

564
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:38,800
a ring together. Oh my god, it's the chop chop, chop, chop,

565
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,480
chop up. It's like boom.

566
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,119
Speaker 2: All right. Yeah.

567
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, I'm saying what I'm saying

568
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,719
not to be little in any way, shape or form.

569
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,239
The Tony Stormer Marian May match, which was fantastic, But

570
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:59,039
I'm saying that I actually enjoyed the Mercedes Monet and

571
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:02,519
mamo Ataaba match a little bit more because that's the

572
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:04,559
kind of match I like. To see.

573
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: You know what, Kelson, You and I I've had the

574
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,639
privilege of being to talk to you for almost it's

575
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:14,920
a bit. But listen, don't go getting all sets and

576
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,119
mets on me. Brother. It's almost been two years that

577
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:20,960
I've had the PA. Don't go getting all sets and

578
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,760
mets A on me, Bob. But it's almost two years

579
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,000
that I've been on this or in and out on

580
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:29,199
this server, and UH, we've had our agreements and our disagreements.

581
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:33,039
But I'm gonna tell you right now that I I

582
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:41,320
believe the if if Momo and UH and Mercedes happened

583
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,360
on a Stardom pay per view, it would be just

584
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,679
as big as Tony Storm and Mariah May on the

585
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,119
aw pay per view, I think. And I'm gonna the

586
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,159
shade shades put it up. I'm gonna shades. What's up, dude?

587
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,599
By the way, how are you? And I hope you're

588
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:59,239
doing well. I'm gonna put you on right now, shades

589
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,079
through the metric onto the server earlier today, the Mercedes,

590
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,519
not the Mercedes, but the Tony Storm and Maria May

591
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:11,440
match is now metrically the fifth highest rated women's professional

592
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,480
wrestling match in the history of women's professional wrestling, and

593
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:18,719
the Momo and Mercedes match doesn't even touch it. I

594
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,679
I think that I think that's it's I think it's

595
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,760
the difference between an idea and a revolution. I think

596
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:30,880
that Tony Storm Might is a contender for the greatest

597
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,639
women's professional wrestler in the history history professional wrestling.

598
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: And the absolutely agree with you. I absolutely agree.

599
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:37,559
Speaker 3: With you, Bro.

600
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,199
Speaker 2: The match they put on, well, what dude, the seeing

601
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,280
mo I get why seeing Momo in that match for

602
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,599
you as a stardom fed you. You should have a

603
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:52,079
completely different podcast for women's professional wrestling, Bro, because you

604
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,679
were putting them on hard as hell, and I wish

605
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,079
it would get a million viewers and you would blow

606
00:39:57,159 --> 00:40:00,199
up and it would be monetized because you were so

607
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,760
passionate about it. I agree with everything that you're saying

608
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,159
about how important it was for Mercedes and moment I

609
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:07,840
had that match, and how good that match was. It

610
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,800
was a gray match, But dude, you're not gonna sit

611
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,679
here and tell me that that f and Tony Storm

612
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,480
and Mariah May wasn't better than that. Dude, it was.

613
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:23,559
Speaker 1: It was. I did not say that. I did not

614
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,880
say that it was. And if I did. I didn't

615
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,320
mean it that way. I do not did not say

616
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,920
that or mean to say that the Momo and Mercedes

617
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:41,280
match was better than the Mariah And it was what

618
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,400
I'm saying as as far if you take the one

619
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:50,519
match the matches themselves, throw the stories out the window.

620
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,760
I just enjoyed the Mercedes and Momo match just a

621
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,920
little bit better. Not it wasn't like, oh, the Momo

622
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:04,119
Mercedes match was so good and the Tony Storm and

623
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,280
Mariah Maymax sucked. No. I never said that. I'm just

624
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,599
saying that if I had to go back and watch

625
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:14,360
a match again, I would definitely watch the Mercedes and

626
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,599
Momo match because that's the kind of match that I enjoy.

627
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: Can I ask you, would you have preferred if Momo won?

628
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna say this, Yes, I am

629
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,119
a stardom fan. I don't really get Momo Watanabe. I

630
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,480
really don't. Yeah, and no, I.

631
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: Think that she was a mid card and she's a

632
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,920
mid card. Well.

633
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: The thing with Momo Momo kind of how do I

634
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:48,159
put this? She kind of isn't like she's kind of

635
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:55,320
like Sasha Banks was in WWE. Sasha Banks was a

636
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,239
singles force but toward the end of her run with WWE,

637
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,119
go look at it. Look go look at her matches.

638
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:07,480
You know, her last year of matches at WWE, she

639
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,000
was doing nothing but tag team matches pretty much. That

640
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:13,880
was all she did. I don't think she had a

641
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,559
singles match. If she did have a singles match in

642
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:20,079
her last year, it was maybe one or two. And

643
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:23,239
that's kind of way MoMA was. MoMA was a singles

644
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,239
force when she came in to stardom, but then she

645
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:33,119
kind of just became a tag team or trios wrestler

646
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:39,800
and she had I believe in all of I did

647
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,440
look it up, and I may be wrong here, but

648
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:47,719
I believe she had one singles match in like twenty

649
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,360
twenty four and that was a loss to Mayui Watani

650
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,519
and that was it. She's not a singles wrestler, so

651
00:42:56,679 --> 00:43:00,960
taking that into consideration, she used to a singles wrestler,

652
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,760
but taking the consideration that she's not a singles wrestler, really,

653
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,039
Eddie Moore, that made this match even more impressive to me.

654
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:11,320
But I will say this, Shane, to answer your question,

655
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,360
I am not a Momo well taught to be fan.

656
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:19,800
I don't think she's bad don't get me wrong. I

657
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,400
just think that excuse me, I got take ups. I

658
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,880
just think that there's so many women in stardom who

659
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,840
were so much better than Momento.

660
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: I agree. I couldn't agree with that statement more so,

661
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,480
I'm gonna show I'm gonna do my Shane thing really quick. So,

662
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:40,079
like you know, we know that Sasha Banks premiered in

663
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,360
WW like she earlier in her career. In two thousand

664
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,280
and eight, she was with Kadok for Wrestling and which

665
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,800
Masters it was a Massachusetts based wrestling promotion, and then

666
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,199
she entered WW in twenty twelve and NXT. She was

667
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,079
a singles wrestler until twenty eighteen, and she and in

668
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,719
twenty fifteen she was was with Team Bad and she

669
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,360
wrestled a little bit. But like you're you're not wrong

670
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,639
in the aspect of she spent the better part of

671
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:15,800
her career, the more established part of her career, the

672
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,320
more successful part of her career. She was a tag

673
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,159
team wrestler. That's the thing, rob with Naomi. With Naomi,

674
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,239
yeah for sure, But like the majority of her career

675
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,280
was spent with her being a singles wrestler. I mean

676
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:36,480
with MoMA, but it's the same thing for Momo. You

677
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,960
made you I think you accidentally made that comparison between

678
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,960
the two of them because their careers kind of mirror

679
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,440
each other, because Momo kind of did the same thing

680
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,079
at stardom. She started as a singles got into a faction,

681
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,320
and then you know, ended up landing in other promotions

682
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:59,199
as a singles performer. I honestly, now making the statement

683
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,320
about the history, I would say that like moving on, Like, uh,

684
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:09,599
if you wanted to do something monumental with Mercedes Monai's titles,

685
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,000
you would have taken the TNT title off of her

686
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,920
at this uh pay per view. If we're having serious crop,

687
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,280
we have rustled Dynasty coming up and forbidden Door, you know,

688
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,000
within the next six months, Dude, let her, let Mercedes lose.

689
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,480
I get that you're Tony Tony. I get you paid

690
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,119
for it. I get you paid for her to be here.

691
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,400
I get that she's a name. I get that she

692
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:33,639
was huge. You know the Riot squad, dude, the Riot

693
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:38,719
Squad like it was a it was Ruby Soho, Siah Logan, Live,

694
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,880
Morgan and Mercedes Mona. I get how big that was

695
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,280
for you. But like now it's time to kind of

696
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,960
shake up the industry a little bit. I would have

697
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,719
put that belt on Momo. I wouldn't have thought twice

698
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,039
about it. I would not like it. Yeah, like that.

699
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:57,760
That would have been the thing to do, because now

700
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,199
we now we have a title for AW that's being

701
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:03,400
defended in other promotions, and that's what we've been looking

702
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,920
for in the inter Continental tru Tuttle that now we're begging.

703
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,760
We have two intercontinental titles for the men in AW

704
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,280
that we want to be defended in other promotions. That's

705
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,039
not happening, but we've defended the women in New Japan.

706
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,920
That was an opportunity and the ball was dropped. I

707
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,239
think stardom. Stardom should have been put over here.

708
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: You know one thing I wanted to say, Shane, Shane,

709
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,840
I wanted to address something you said, and then we'll

710
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,000
go to net and get her. You know, you said

711
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,280
something about Mercedes me it's time for Mercedes Monet to lose.

712
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,760
And I can't agree with you more, not because of

713
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,360
any dislike for Mercedes Monett, but because it's good for

714
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,679
the story. And I will give you this example, the

715
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,519
Mariah May and Tony Storm match and matches their trilogy

716
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:58,400
of matches was made Well, no, there's not a true

717
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,880
was it three matches or four three three? Okay? Yeah,

718
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,000
so it is a trilogy. There are trilogy of matches.

719
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:16,360
Was made better because Mariah May won. Yeah, because because

720
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,559
if Tony Storman won all three then there really wouldn't

721
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:23,960
have been a point than having the other two matches.

722
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:28,039
You know, well, there would have been a point, but

723
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,920
it would have made it special. There would have been

724
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,320
anything on the line. And that's the thing with Mercedes Monet.

725
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,559
If she loses the TBS Championship, she could then go

726
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,199
after the Women's World Championship. She could go after the

727
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,639
TBS Championship again, and it'll be something that will put

728
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:47,760
you on your edge of your seat when that happens.

729
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,320
Losing the championship, losing the TBS title for Mercedes Monet

730
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,559
is not a bad thing, and it's not a slight

731
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:59,320
against Mercedes at all. She's still Mercedes Monet, one of

732
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:06,119
the greatest professional wrestlers that you know, women wrestlers, arguably

733
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:12,760
professional wrestlers you know of all time, So least in

734
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,280
her mind.

735
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: I think aw figured Wing out. I'm going to say it.

736
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:20,360
I think they figured it out. I think Tony figured

737
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,559
it out in the past three months, and I think

738
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,239
that I, I official, well, we were so critical of

739
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,920
what was happening in AW with the women's wrestlers in

740
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,039
the women women's locker room, and I think we're finally

741
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,320
I'm I think that we're finally in a place to

742
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,960
say that some of the best things that are happening

743
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,960
in women's professional wrestling are happening in AW right now,

744
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,280
and Tony figured out how to put them over and

745
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,920
I think removing some people from the picture was what

746
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,199
made it great. And I think that the direction that

747
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:49,440
they're headed in is going to be epic and I

748
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:53,239
and I'm I'm I'm going to say something real weird.

749
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:57,280
I'm not a politics politics guy. I don't think that.

750
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:01,119
I think in a in a perfect where that a

751
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,599
women's world title and a men's world title exists in

752
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:08,159
the same space, make it great, make it great for

753
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,639
both people, make it great for both sexes. I think

754
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,639
Tony has an opportunity to show the world that the

755
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:18,280
women are doing just as good. And I think that

756
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,880
putting these two women together on this pay per view

757
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:26,119
proved that completely. The dude, this women match literally like

758
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,880
literally now metrically is considered to be the fifth greatest

759
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,239
women's professional wrestling, the best women's wrestling match in North America,

760
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,079
and the fifth greatest women's professional wrestling match metrically on Earth.

761
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:43,159
But I would very strongly say that this is one

762
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:46,039
of the greatest women's wrestling matches of all time. And

763
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:52,079
I know that Momo and Mercedes deserve their spot on

764
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:54,679
the their spotlight in the sun, dude, and I think

765
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,440
it's going to come. But I think they need to

766
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,639
develop this middle title first, get it off of Mercedes,

767
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,039
put Mercedes in the world title spectrum, and let someone

768
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:07,079
else from another company hold an a w title. And

769
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:10,239
that's it's That's what's gonna make it look irrelevant. And

770
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,679
until that happens, why have middle those middling titles?

771
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: Before we go to net that. I apologize that for

772
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,159
just keeping I want to stay.

773
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 2: I went crazy. I apologize, but.

774
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: I want I wanted to make a point here. As

775
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,239
Shane said, I am a Startom fan. One of the

776
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,880
greatest things about Stardom for me is that they have

777
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:43,039
a way of storytelling. And what I mean by that

778
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,760
is I don't speak Japanese at all. I know Sayonara

779
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,119
and hi from watching you know Karate Kid and stuff

780
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:58,679
like that. But but I guess my point is is

781
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:05,360
that I want stardom, and I understand everything that's going

782
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,000
on in their shows. I understand their promotions because they're

783
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:18,280
expressive their body language. You understand what's happening. And when

784
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,199
the Mercedes and Mama match was happening, that was a

785
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,000
start of match. That was a pure stardom match from

786
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:30,519
beginning in the striking, the brutality of it was started

787
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:33,760
from an end. But when you think about it, so

788
00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:37,079
was the Tony Storm and Mariah May match. That was

789
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:41,639
stardom theater right there. I mean, I think if you

790
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,000
like Tony Storm and you like Mariah May and the

791
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,199
matches that they've put on and the story that they've

792
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:51,519
put on, and you've never watched stardom before, go on

793
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:54,400
to start them YouTube channel and do yourself a favor

794
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,119
and watch a few of their fewer their highlights, and

795
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:02,840
I think you'll be impressed. Net I really wanted to

796
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,559
want to see you ground us and keep me and

797
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:11,840
Shane quiet. They're calling for you in the chat saying

798
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,920
we want to hear a nuts take. I mean, sleep,

799
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:18,320
dazzle us with your eloquence.

800
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: Oh, my eloquence. I loved the Mercedes Momo match. I

801
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:29,000
absolutely did. I feel like Momo should have won that

802
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:33,199
match as well. I think we need to take some

803
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,159
of these aw titles, and like you all were saying,

804
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:43,159
let them go around in the different promotions and be defended.

805
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:47,960
Not everybody has to come to a w to challenge

806
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:52,320
for titles. We can go other places and do other things.

807
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,760
I think Mercedes is a fantastic wrestler. She aggravates me

808
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,880
on a personal level, but she's good in the ring.

809
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,960
And I would like to see more women's matches, more

810
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:15,360
defense of the women's belts in like I said, in

811
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,679
other places, and Tony Kahan is on the diverge of

812
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,280
doing it, and if he plays it right and does

813
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:31,639
it right, we can have fantastic women's wrestling and I

814
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:35,719
would love to see it for one. So I hope

815
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,840
that we get more out of this, and Mercedes has

816
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:45,519
a lot of belts to defend, so the possibility is there.

817
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,679
I just want to see it. So that's my eloquent take.

818
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,599
Speaker 1: Well, Bet, I'm going to ask you a point blank question.

819
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,480
Now that Tony Storm has defeated Mariah May and had

820
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:04,519
her Hollywood ending who do you think is or who

821
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:09,719
do you think are the top contenders that you would

822
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:15,360
like to maybe like see face Tony Storm at Dynasty

823
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,280
which is coming up really soon, and even all in

824
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:23,400
what do you see in Tony Storm's future leaving Mariah

825
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,039
May out of it?

826
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, m I'm not sure. I personally really like Chris Stantlander,

827
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,920
so I would like to see more of her, And

828
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:45,639
I don't know with Tony's Storm, I don't I really

829
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:46,079
don't know.

830
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:51,519
Speaker 1: What about you, Shane, do you have any ideas? Nope?

831
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: I honestly think that the women's professional wrestling landscape and

832
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,000
ae W was recent set by this and whatever happens happens,

833
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:06,800
and I'm gonna ride with it because they figured out

834
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:12,880
what works and it and it looks fantastic right now. Yeah,

835
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:16,440
you can't put you can't put on you can't put

836
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,559
on the great I I have a bull Nanako China

837
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:26,119
like like like I like, I can't, I can't say

838
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:29,760
more dude, like like Alexa Bliss. We've had the privilege

839
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,039
of seeing some fantastic women's wrestlers in women's wrestling, but

840
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:36,280
they but they put that in a category like it's

841
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,480
a niche thing. Tony Kahan took it and said, hey,

842
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,559
this is a human thing. It's a real thing. Let's

843
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:43,920
rock with it. This is one of the best women's

844
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,280
women's matches in the history of professional wrestling. I don't

845
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,639
care what direction it goes in. It's gonna be great

846
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:50,840
whoever they put up.

847
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, here here's my thoughts. And I think

848
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:01,000
I've expressed this before. I believe it was in twenty

849
00:56:01,079 --> 00:56:05,679
twenty two when the AW Women's World Championship was vacated

850
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:12,639
due to injury by thunder Rosa, and afterward Tony Storm

851
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:19,480
became the interim Women's Championship champion by winning a I

852
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,199
believe it was a four way, maybe it was a

853
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,000
three way, but you want a multi women match to

854
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:30,320
become the interim world champion, which eventually was changed to

855
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,920
full World champion because thunder Rosa was injured and could

856
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,840
not come back. And again, you know, it's weird because

857
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,800
thunder Rosa and Tony Storm were tag team partners. They

858
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:52,360
were Thunderstorm together. Now taking into consideration that thunder Rosa

859
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:58,719
never lost that championship and has never faced Tony Storm

860
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:06,440
for that champion and all In is in Houston, Texas,

861
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,800
which just seems to me. As far as all End goes,

862
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,920
they've got to do Tony stormanth On the Rosa. That

863
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:24,079
that's my prediction. So I mean, but look, I mean,

864
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:26,800
I as far as Mariah May goes, I think she's

865
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,920
just gonna take a little bit of time off. She

866
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:34,519
deserves it. She's been a workhorse for this. This story

867
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:39,079
has been going on for sixteen months. Sixteen months, nearly

868
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:42,639
a year and a half. That's how good it's been.

869
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:46,719
It was wonderfully paced and everything. I mean, you could

870
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,280
ask for more from this story in my opinion, and

871
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,800
I'm sure other some people may disagree with me, but

872
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,159
I don't think anybody on this panel will. He will

873
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:04,039
at all. But I kind of see, you know, I

874
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:07,280
think it was I can't remember who it was posted

875
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,599
it in Chad. I'm scrolling to see, Uh it was

876
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:13,280
it was Jets fan who said I wish that they

877
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,239
would melt the Trio's belts down and pretend they never existed. Yeah.

878
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,280
I agree, and they should immediately melt them down and

879
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:27,920
create the AW Women's Tag Team Championship titles. And there

880
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:31,400
are so many tag teams that if you've been paying

881
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,519
attention to AW they have been building these tag teams

882
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,039
over the last several weeks. Maria May now is free

883
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:43,800
to go get her tag team partner. And who's her

884
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,360
tag team partner? Mina Shirakala Rose Gold do it. That's

885
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,360
what the That's what I think's next for Maria May do.

886
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,960
I think that Maria May and Mina Srikala will win

887
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:58,599
the championship. Probably not because Mina Shirkala is under contract

888
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:04,840
for another closed period of time with Stardom. But it's

889
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,079
good story. It's there, It's right there in front of

890
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:15,280
your face, you know, so let's do it. Other than

891
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,880
we've talked for a just an amazing amount of time

892
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,559
about the women, and I'm not complaining about it. I

893
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:30,679
love women's wrestling, and I really do, and they deserve

894
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:36,159
to be talked about. And I hope Tony con realizes that.

895
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,639
But I want to talk about Let's go to will

896
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:44,519
Osprey and Kyle Fletcher, not.

897
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:47,039
Speaker 2: Tedny and Takesha.

898
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Kenny and Takesta.

899
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: You want to talk about Teddy, Let's talk about Kyle

900
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:57,559
and that I got to be honest with They had

901
00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:00,719
me when they settle low. What I mean by that

902
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,840
is when they came out for their entrances. Kyle Fletcher

903
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,159
came out first, climbed up to one corner of the

904
01:00:06,239 --> 01:00:11,880
steel cage, and then and then uh will Osfrey came

905
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,559
out to a different version of his music. He climbed

906
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:19,280
to the other edge of the steel cage. When they

907
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,360
actually hit his original music and the fans started chanting Osprey.

908
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:28,679
I thought it was subtle, subtle, but brilliant.

909
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:34,599
Speaker 4: That as Osprey was waving to the crowd to encourage them,

910
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:40,760
the Osprey Osprey, at the very same time Kyle Fletcher

911
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,320
was over there plugging his ears.

912
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: I just thought it was brilliant. I just thought it

913
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:51,559
was I thought that was brilliant. I was laughing my

914
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,719
ass off at Look, wrestling doesn't need to As I

915
01:00:56,719 --> 01:00:59,159
said earlier, you don't have to be a rocket scientist

916
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:03,000
to joy wrestling. That was one of the simplest and

917
01:01:03,079 --> 01:01:05,840
maybe even the dumbest thing that could have possibly happened.

918
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:10,760
I loved every second of that. And then you had

919
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,480
the match, and then you had the match.

920
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: Yea.

921
01:01:19,519 --> 01:01:21,559
Speaker 1: You know, the only thing I could say bad about

922
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:24,800
the Tony Storm and Mariah May match and will Osprey

923
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:27,840
and Kyle Fletcher match is that you can't post any

924
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,719
pictures of them on Reddit because they'll just take them

925
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:32,199
down because it was too much blood.

926
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:41,159
Speaker 2: Oh oh god, those God, it was a it was

927
01:01:41,159 --> 01:01:45,239
almost a smut film like, especially for the women. And

928
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:47,840
I don't I don't know if they blade it or

929
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,880
what happened in that situation. It just but god, it was.

930
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:58,079
It was violent, but I think it was violence negating violence.

931
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:03,039
It was a necessity in terms of Ospirey and Fletcher.

932
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,679
That's got a five point seven rating on Cage Match.

933
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,440
Ospirey has I listen, hate me for saying it, Hate

934
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,599
me for hate for hate me for quoting uh Dave Meltzer,

935
01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:20,159
hate me for using this as a rest reference. I

936
01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:23,559
don't give a shit. I'm gonna say it plain as day.

937
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,800
If you're gonna look at me and tell me that

938
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,159
the Osprey and Fletcher match wasn't one of the greatest

939
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:35,000
cage match Dude. That Spanish fly is comparable to the

940
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,360
Mankind Undertaker Helena cel ninety eight Mankind getting thrown off

941
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,760
into the into the Spanish announced desk. It is comparable

942
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,760
to that moment that Spanish fly they hit looked like

943
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,760
someone might have died when they landed. On that fucking match.

944
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:55,719
Oh excuse me, I'll stop hold then, Okay.

945
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,079
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

946
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: Them hitting that spot was compared terrible to the nineteen

947
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,880
ninety eight Hell in a Cell where where man thrown

948
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,039
off the steel cage. It was it was comparable, dude.

949
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:15,119
There's there's no getting around that, dude. It was one

950
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:19,079
of the hardest spots hitting pro wrestling history. This was

951
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,000
a landmark match. I don't care what your preferred flavored

952
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,079
professional wrestling is. This was one of the greatest steel

953
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:28,039
cage matches in the history still cage matches.

954
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: Did you watch ups and downs either of you for

955
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,679
the show from a Revolution from Simon Miller?

956
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I watch everything selling as Simon Miller does. I

957
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:41,719
love him?

958
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:47,559
Speaker 1: No? I love Mike, but yeah no. But he mentioned

959
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:51,280
specifically that Spanish fly and he mentioned that he wrestled

960
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,800
over the weekend I guess or within the last week

961
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,440
and he had a Spanish fly hit on him and

962
01:03:57,519 --> 01:04:01,039
he is scared to hell. I think he bit his

963
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:04,639
tongue and he said it his Spanish fly was done

964
01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:07,039
off the top rope. And he said, do you realize

965
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:11,800
how tall a w steel cages are? And he said

966
01:04:12,679 --> 01:04:17,920
when he saw that move. I can't remember what he said,

967
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,519
but it was comparable to I thought these two men

968
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:23,639
were going to die. I do not think it was

969
01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:29,199
comparable to the Hell in the Cell spot, Shane, that was.

970
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:35,599
Speaker 2: Brother. We both saw it in real time. I am

971
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:37,400
old enough to say that I saw it in real time.

972
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,320
I know you saw it in real time. How is

973
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:45,920
it not comparable? No one expected it. What happened. And

974
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,760
you're talking about the difference between someone falling.

975
01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:54,119
Speaker 5: Off of off of a cage situation, situation or a

976
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:58,440
cell situation and then hitting a Spanish fly Dude, this Yeah,

977
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:02,039
this was one of you.

978
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you that, but it just didn't

979
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:13,920
have the wow for me. Uh, not as much it was. No,

980
01:05:14,119 --> 01:05:15,440
it was a wow moment.

981
01:05:17,199 --> 01:05:19,199
Speaker 2: There were no tags for the Hell in the Cell

982
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,320
they like listen, I have recent Dark Side of the

983
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,719
Ring and I just uh showed some promos from the

984
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,480
next first season six what's up? Watch it? But like

985
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,559
when they hit that spot for Helen a cell with

986
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:43,760
Mankind and the Undertaker like that, what Like, it's a

987
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,519
different type of dangerous. It's a different type of dangerous

988
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,800
because they were protected, more protected with the Hell in

989
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,239
a Cell spot than they were with will Ospry.

990
01:05:57,159 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: Hellen the cell came first. That was that was specially.

991
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 6: I'm trying to phrase it to where I don't take

992
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,559
away from what Kyle Fletcher will Osprey did because it

993
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:14,159
was spectacular, it was wonderful, it was wow.

994
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,239
Speaker 1: But for me, you're not. I just don't think it is.

995
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:22,519
Speaker 2: You don't think it's comparable at the very least comparable.

996
01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: I would go so much to say that if the

997
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,920
ladders were two feet higher. The spot that it's comparable

998
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,400
to for me, more comparable to to me is Semi

999
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,920
Kovar Stunner from Ladder to Ladder on Cody Roads for

1000
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,760
the TNT Championship Man the tt Championship match.

1001
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:46,519
Speaker 2: I saw that live in Cleveland, Bro, that happened, happened to.

1002
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:54,239
Speaker 1: My home to me, Okay, understand this, understand this. I

1003
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,679
just want to say something real quick to me. That

1004
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:04,519
Stunner prompt that Spanish fly. Do you say that right now?

1005
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: Do you think that edge Adam Copeland hitting uh Jeff

1006
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:12,679
Hardy on that ladder match was harder than that?

1007
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, Bro.

1008
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: That's wrestling history, Okay, I mean I listen, I get it.

1009
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,079
I get your perspective, BRO, but I think that Spanish

1010
01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:31,800
fly might would have been that's probably I get the

1011
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,360
Sammy Guvara Cody Roads thing went hard. I have the

1012
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,400
privilege of being able to see that live in my

1013
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,480
hometown of Cleveland, Ohio. But like, I really believe that

1014
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,280
that that went way harder than that.

1015
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,679
Speaker 1: Well, I would said I'm a little bit biased because

1016
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:50,639
of all the spots ever done in aw that's a bigavar.

1017
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,559
Cody Roads thing is my favorite spot and I'll always

1018
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:58,480
have a spot for it. I do want to ask Benji,

1019
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:00,960
if he's still here, and I think he is in

1020
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:05,440
our in our chat, if he would respond to this,

1021
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:08,920
and I'll once he responds, I'll let you know. There

1022
01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:12,880
was a he was in the crowd at Revolution and

1023
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:19,479
when Will Osprey was bleeding the on TV at the

1024
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,520
pay per view they showed I thought this was a

1025
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,399
pretty poignant moment. Is they showed him with blood streaming

1026
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,239
down his face and you could hear the collective gasp

1027
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:36,600
of the crowd, And I wanted to ask Beggie, wasn't

1028
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:44,640
as loud as it sounded on TV that gasp? But anyway, Matt,

1029
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,199
what are your thoughts on this?

1030
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:51,319
Speaker 3: I love that match. I did they were doing some

1031
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:55,439
phenomenal things. I like the fact that Fletcher wore those

1032
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:01,159
knee pads that had Osprey's blood on them. Uh, just

1033
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:06,960
the way they were behaving towards one another. I just

1034
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:10,319
loved the whole thing. That Spanish fly was amazing. It's

1035
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:14,399
one of the best things I've seen. I'm right there

1036
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:20,239
with Shane on that one. I just I just loved it.

1037
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,359
I thought the whole thing was just great, that that

1038
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:29,640
was really really good. So I don't know, just me.

1039
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Beggie, by the way, did answer the question, and

1040
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,840
he said, simply, when it came to the crowd's gasp

1041
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:45,479
at seeing I assume on the big screen will Osbury's

1042
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,840
face dripping with blood, was the gasp loud? He said,

1043
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:57,439
it was simply, but it was. Oh, let's move on

1044
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:07,680
to thea Kashta, that gorgeous, being lovely and and Kenny Obega.

1045
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:11,159
What the hell?

1046
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: I want to mention that there were so many hipo

1047
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:22,199
violations during that entire match. I'm surprised they weren't fine

1048
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:28,239
callous having hold of Kenny's medical records, and all everyone

1049
01:10:28,319 --> 01:10:32,399
did is talk about where Kenny was was hurt, and

1050
01:10:33,319 --> 01:10:36,720
just on and on. I thought they were going to

1051
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:37,479
get in trouble.

1052
01:10:38,079 --> 01:10:44,199
Speaker 1: But can I ask you a question? Yeah, did you

1053
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,039
know that Kenny Omega had two feet of his intestines removed?

1054
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,039
Speaker 3: I had heard that. I thought it might be a

1055
01:10:51,119 --> 01:10:56,520
vicious rumor on the internet. So yeah, see, Shane is

1056
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,039
even shocked that it happened.

1057
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: By the way, By the way, Shane, Shane, did you

1058
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,319
know that Kenny Omega had two feet of his intestines reboot?

1059
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: No idea. I haven't seen a single Kenny Omega match

1060
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:10,359
until I.

1061
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,279
Speaker 1: Mean, you can make a drinking game out of that statement.

1062
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,399
Speaker 2: Kenny Omega is my favorite professional wrestler, uh and I

1063
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:28,560
I resonate with him because like, uh, like, I'm a weirdo.

1064
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,359
I follow Kenny Omega on the level. I watch his

1065
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,560
uh youtubes, I watch his twitch streams. We played the

1066
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:40,920
same video games. Weren't the same RPGs? Kenny Omega rules, Yeah,

1067
01:11:42,079 --> 01:11:45,960
this match was. Kenny Omega is the best seller of

1068
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:50,199
moves in the history professional wrestling and takeshtra. Holy crap,

1069
01:11:50,319 --> 01:11:54,439
this match was fantastic. The like we might get another

1070
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,119
Kenny Omega belt collector run, it doesn't even matter this

1071
01:11:57,119 --> 01:12:03,760
this could be a revolution for professional wrestling. I'm on

1072
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,399
a tangent. I'm sorry. I love, I love, I love,

1073
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,840
I loved this match. I love, I love Kenny, I

1074
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,600
love Takeushta, I liked. I thinksha is fantastic.

1075
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: I think I was lost. I love the Kenny, but

1076
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:21,279
I was sad that I didn't want anybody to lose

1077
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:21,760
this match.

1078
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,359
Speaker 3: I didn't either, and I just wanted them just to

1079
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,000
be be, just be there and just let it just be.

1080
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: That was just great.

1081
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: But no, but ae W was Listen. One of my

1082
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,960
favorite a W matches was a dark match with Joey

1083
01:12:41,039 --> 01:12:46,119
Janella and Kenny Omega and they dude, Kenny is going

1084
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:49,520
to give us the best matches all the time forever.

1085
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,520
He did it in Japan, he did it and developmental

1086
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:56,279
for excuse me, he did it and did a developmental

1087
01:12:56,359 --> 01:12:58,720
for Ring of Honor and w w E. Kenny is

1088
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,119
going to give us the best matches forever. He is fantastic.

1089
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,720
He For those of you that don't believe that he

1090
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:10,760
is not capable of cutting a promo, He's not scripting promos.

1091
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,439
Kenny is Kenny when he cuts his promos, accept it.

1092
01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:19,560
I want Kenny to have this belt and rocket. I

1093
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,720
want him to get the other belts and Rocket. I

1094
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:26,520
want him to unify these intercontinental titles. I want I

1095
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,920
want to see Kenny do Kenny this way.

1096
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:34,199
Speaker 1: What about Taqshta? What do you think's next for Taqueshta?

1097
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:39,079
Speaker 2: Now he's headed to Japan, Yeah, I think he's He's

1098
01:13:39,079 --> 01:13:41,319
signed with New Japan. Dude, He's gonna go run a

1099
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:43,479
faction in Japan and be a rock star and it's

1100
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,479
gonna be great. There are dude, he's one of those

1101
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,479
Japanese wrestlers that and he's young. He's going to have

1102
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,479
a job forever and he's fantastic. Yeah great, let him

1103
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,479
rock it out, dude. This is a let nature take

1104
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,479
its core situation.

1105
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, what's your thoughts here on this? Uh Net?

1106
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 3: I think Takesha will go over to Japan for a while.

1107
01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:16,960
It's unfortunate that he probably won't take Don Callous with him.

1108
01:14:19,039 --> 01:14:25,000
But I love Kenny Omega. I've loved Kenny Omega forever

1109
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,520
and I think that he is going to unify those titles.

1110
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:37,600
I'm really looking forward to that match, and I'm I'm

1111
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,439
just glad that Kenny is back. I was honestly looking

1112
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:48,439
a little bit for some surprise support for Kenny in

1113
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,479
the form of a bushie. But I'm glad that they

1114
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,199
didn't do it and just let Kenny be out there

1115
01:14:56,319 --> 01:15:03,079
by himself telling his story. Uh, and Takesha looked fantastic.

1116
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:08,359
He is by no means a lesser wrestler. He is

1117
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,520
great and he has many, many years of being great

1118
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,640
ahead of him. So I just loved it. I love

1119
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,920
just about everything that Kenny Omega does.

1120
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: You know I got you know that you brought up

1121
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,439
something and I got to say something and I would

1122
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:30,039
probably get banned from podcasts were saying this. I'm gonna

1123
01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:32,199
say it anyway because I have a question for you.

1124
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,840
This is so tasteless, but it's just, oh no, it's

1125
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,880
so me. You know, you brought up Don Kallus not

1126
01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:46,840
going to Japan with Takeshta. Yeah, what if he did?

1127
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:51,079
My question is if Don Kallas goes over to Japan

1128
01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:54,840
and he's on Japanese TV, would the Japanese production crews

1129
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,720
have to pixelate the vagina on Don Kallis's forehead.

1130
01:16:01,119 --> 01:16:14,319
Speaker 3: I wish we'd pixelated it here. Oh God, whatever happened

1131
01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:16,159
to that podcast you all were doing.

1132
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,199
Speaker 1: I just this is just the way my mind works

1133
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,840
once I get up, once I got it in my head,

1134
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,359
I had to say it. I apologize to everybody for

1135
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,960
saying that, because now you know where my mind is.

1136
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:38,840
I think I killed Shane.

1137
01:16:39,359 --> 01:16:43,239
Speaker 2: So I'm.

1138
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: Done.

1139
01:16:45,079 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm out, goodbye. I have a good eye, guys, I'm out.

1140
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: You know I want to I want to change gears.

1141
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,479
I know how to keep Shane involved because I'm gonna

1142
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,680
bring up this buddy. I'm gonna bring up his buddy,

1143
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:01,479
Dave Meltzer.

1144
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:06,199
Speaker 2: No, I can't say the F word on these podcasts.

1145
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:08,640
Get the f out of here. No, dude, you're not

1146
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,000
going to bring up Meltzer. Leave him alone. He's he's

1147
01:17:13,159 --> 01:17:16,159
too busy, bigger critic in an autodideck. Leave him alone.

1148
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: No, he didn't. He did come out with the story.

1149
01:17:19,279 --> 01:17:24,159
Uh that uh is actually kind of interesting. Look n

1150
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:28,560
C Double A Basketball March Madness is it's March, so

1151
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,920
it's starting and of course yeah so yeah, so.

1152
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: Like mostly in the March right now. It's not like,

1153
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,760
oh shit, like we're mostly in the March.

1154
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying is that the March Madness,

1155
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,079
which is the n C Double A basketball tournament is

1156
01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:50,640
uh is coming and it's coming to t n T,

1157
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:56,560
which of course is the home of a W Collision.

1158
01:17:57,159 --> 01:18:01,079
So the news coming out today is that it is

1159
01:18:01,239 --> 01:18:05,680
going to affect the Ncuba tournament, is going to affect Collision,

1160
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:10,920
And this is really interesting. What affected WW on March

1161
01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:15,159
twenty second and March twenty third, which is two weeks

1162
01:18:15,159 --> 01:18:21,560
from now, Collision runs on the same night as well.

1163
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,680
Collision would run on the same night as the Ncuba tournament.

1164
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:32,399
What ALW is, what AW has decided to do is

1165
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:40,279
that they are going to tape the Collision on Wednesday

1166
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:46,760
night in Omaha during obviously after Dynamite, Okay, They're going

1167
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,720
to break it up into two separate shows, and they

1168
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,760
are going to air them on the twenty second and

1169
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,920
twenty third, which is a Saturday and Sunday after the

1170
01:18:56,159 --> 01:19:01,520
Ncuba Basketball Tournament games. Now, those games start at eight o'clock,

1171
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,479
so you're looking at probably eleven o'clock. You're gonna have

1172
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,039
a one hour Collision on Saturday night, the twenty second,

1173
01:19:10,199 --> 01:19:14,079
and a one hour Collision at Sunday night on the

1174
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:19,560
twenty third, both of them starting at probably eleven PM.

1175
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,119
And the reason they're doing that is to make them

1176
01:19:23,159 --> 01:19:27,239
one hour shows. Is because they feel that if the

1177
01:19:27,359 --> 01:19:33,039
show starts at eleven eleven PM, you're gonna lose most

1178
01:19:33,079 --> 01:19:36,159
of your audience by the time the show's over at

1179
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:40,039
one am, so they're separating into two shows. I mean,

1180
01:19:40,119 --> 01:19:43,560
I think that's a pretty interesting decision for AW to do.

1181
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 3: What do you guys think, Try it and see what happens.

1182
01:19:49,079 --> 01:19:53,319
Speaker 1: Then, I don't know. Well, the other well, the other

1183
01:19:53,399 --> 01:19:56,960
interesting thing is is that if for some reason the

1184
01:19:57,039 --> 01:20:01,840
eleven pm start, look you're getting, you're getting a great

1185
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,479
lead in right from the NCAA tournament. So I don't

1186
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,920
think that that can be really used as a factor

1187
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,560
in the barometer of this. But if the one hour

1188
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:19,239
show works, why not do Shockwave at eleven pm after

1189
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,399
Collision on Saturday night or whatever, or a ten pm

1190
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,079
it after Collision on Saturday night. You never know. So

1191
01:20:27,279 --> 01:20:29,520
I just thought that was interesting, Shane. You had brought

1192
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:34,640
up something earlier about well Camille and Wardlow.

1193
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh please listen. I'm a psychopath. I've broken

1194
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,439
news on here that has actually been real, and I

1195
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,880
don't want to be this guy. I just I like

1196
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,079
spend like I'm obsessed with professional wrestling and I love

1197
01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:52,640
the sport and I love the idea of it, and

1198
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,520
I will never stop doing what I do. I'll be

1199
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:57,319
a menace forever.

1200
01:20:59,680 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1201
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:02,520
Speaker 2: So like Camille or where do you want me to

1202
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,239
start with Wardler?

1203
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, whatever you want.

1204
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,079
Speaker 2: Wardlows from Ohio. He's out there in Los Angeles, like

1205
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:15,560
shooting movies, movies, I think, I think, but he but

1206
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,479
the but they didn't say movies. They said Wardlow's doing

1207
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:22,680
projects quote unquote. He that that that's what he's doing

1208
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:28,479
right now, and uh, it's uh, it's comparable to guys

1209
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,800
that top, guys that like look like bad guys in movies,

1210
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,520
and that's what he's doing. I think the moment more

1211
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,960
intriguing thing is the Camille story. So I was doing

1212
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:45,920
research today on Camille and Camille is in trouble. She's

1213
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:51,199
in trouble because, uh, she is how do I say

1214
01:21:51,279 --> 01:21:56,680
this respect I don't know how to say disrespectfully. She's

1215
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,800
being ghosted by her She's being ghosted by her boss

1216
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,279
because she's an asshole and no one wants to deal

1217
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:06,039
with her because she expected to get things from Tony

1218
01:22:06,119 --> 01:22:08,520
Kahan that she's not getting and no one's talking to her.

1219
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,119
She still works for aw she's still getting paid, but

1220
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,520
but she's been getting ghosted by her boss.

1221
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 1: And the first time that this has ever happened in AW,

1222
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:20,159
isn't I.

1223
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:23,039
Speaker 5: This?

1224
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1225
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 2: Well, well Camille had some things to say about AW

1226
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:35,560
after she didn't agree with her where her from a

1227
01:22:36,039 --> 01:22:38,760
creative direction was headed, and she had some things to

1228
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,319
say about this a couple of months ago, and it

1229
01:22:40,399 --> 01:22:43,199
went by the wayside and everyone got really quiet about it,

1230
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,279
and it's stagnated, and this is where we're at right now.

1231
01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:50,239
So the the rumor, I'm not going to say it's

1232
01:22:50,279 --> 01:22:53,640
a fact. I'm not saying I have breaking news. I

1233
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,319
have to say this because I was quoted by SRS.

1234
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,560
I just had to say it plain in his day,

1235
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,720
like this is the This is just like for me

1236
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,640
digging in like she is not. She's not doing too

1237
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,880
good right now, So like what's the thought on that?

1238
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: Well, you know, look, I've said it before and I've

1239
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,039
said it again. You know, when it came to like

1240
01:23:16,199 --> 01:23:19,439
the CM punk stuff and all that. This is the

1241
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,600
way I look at it. I think he's a wrestler.

1242
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,239
I think he I think he was a whipping boy

1243
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:28,199
in UFC too.

1244
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: But look, look, this is the way that you stand

1245
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,199
punk was the reason you and I didn't talk for

1246
01:23:36,319 --> 01:23:40,479
two months, Like I fell out of the fan hub

1247
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,159
community because I went on full Tinfoil had bullshit over seampunk,

1248
01:23:45,279 --> 01:23:48,199
but Camille, like I thought.

1249
01:23:48,079 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: That was funny anyway. But anyway, but this is the

1250
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,279
way I look at stuff like this, Shane Buddy, when

1251
01:24:00,279 --> 01:24:03,640
it comes to seem punk and anything that said, backstage

1252
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:08,880
reports and stuff like that, if I'm not there, I

1253
01:24:09,079 --> 01:24:13,319
don't care, meaning I don't care to give my opinion

1254
01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:18,079
on something because I don't know. I mean, we could speculate,

1255
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,600
but that just makes an ass out of you and

1256
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:26,159
me because we're just assuming stuff. We're not talking about facts.

1257
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,399
That's that's really my stance on it. I mean, I

1258
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,199
really when the whole CM punk and Jack Perry and

1259
01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:37,600
Tony Kahan thing went down, people were just spewing stuff

1260
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,960
like they were backstage. I wasn't, so I didn't have

1261
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:41,520
an opinion.

1262
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,039
Speaker 2: Well, Jack Perry's coming back, Camille's not, and Camille's been

1263
01:24:46,079 --> 01:24:51,439
public about her. Camille has been very public about her

1264
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,439
relationship to the promotion she's signed to, which makes no

1265
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:00,000
sense because why slammed the person who's sign and page

1266
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:05,479
checks dude, like like that's the thing. And it's like, Camille,

1267
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:10,239
you came from NWA Billy Corgan's promotion, which NWA is

1268
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:12,920
fun and they have a lot of cool stuff going

1269
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,159
on over there, and I would like to see, you know,

1270
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:22,680
and I want to see all. I love AW. But

1271
01:25:23,159 --> 01:25:26,600
but my perspective on professional wrestling is that I want

1272
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,840
to see everyone blow up. I want to see GCW

1273
01:25:29,039 --> 01:25:31,560
blow up Jason, I'm not Juggalo. I want to see

1274
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,880
j CW blow up. Yes, seen Steven flow yet he's

1275
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,359
fun as hell, Like I want to see people blow

1276
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:43,960
up in other promotions. And she chose to get involved

1277
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,680
with ae W and then and then after she wasn't

1278
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,520
getting what she wanted from the promotion, she slandered them

1279
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,560
on on the media. That's what That's what happened. That's

1280
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,399
exactly what happened. That's a fact.

1281
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, maybe it wasn't that she didn't get what she

1282
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,920
wanted from the vote from the promotion, or was it

1283
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,600
that the promotion wasn't get what they wanted out of her?

1284
01:26:06,079 --> 01:26:08,399
You know? Again, That's that's the point I'm making, is

1285
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,640
like I wasn't there, so I don't know what was

1286
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,640
going on. I don't know what was said. I don't

1287
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,760
know the details of her contract. I don't know if

1288
01:26:16,279 --> 01:26:18,239
for all we know Mercedes said, look, I don't want

1289
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:19,439
to work with this person anymore.

1290
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:23,279
Speaker 2: Why would Mercedes say that she's working with she's.

1291
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:26,199
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1292
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: Mercedes, Mercedes, Mercedes relented the willow overseas she put over

1293
01:26:35,079 --> 01:26:40,439
some Mercedes is a consonant for professional Kelson. I spoke

1294
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:46,560
out against Mercedes Monette hard as f when she got signed,

1295
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:49,239
and you were the person that was like, hey, Shane,

1296
01:26:49,319 --> 01:26:52,680
by the way, she's the reason that women's wrestling is

1297
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,600
becoming more relevant. Aw I literally had to take a

1298
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,199
step back and look into that and that you were

1299
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:04,920
one hundred percent right, dude. Camille is a person, and

1300
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,840
she is a hardworking person and a hard working professional

1301
01:27:10,039 --> 01:27:13,199
that has indiscretions with her boss that are clearly not

1302
01:27:13,319 --> 01:27:18,199
being resolved. That's a thing. It's evident. It's a thing.

1303
01:27:19,159 --> 01:27:21,680
I'm sorry, I'm saying it. I'm saying it on the

1304
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,880
podcast behind a microphone.

1305
01:27:24,399 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, something's going on, something's going.

1306
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,199
Speaker 2: On, something's going on, something, something's going on. But is

1307
01:27:29,239 --> 01:27:31,600
it that important that we need to have like like

1308
01:27:32,079 --> 01:27:34,600
this was just supposed to be like a point in

1309
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,279
the podcast, like, is she that important? No, she was

1310
01:27:38,319 --> 01:27:42,079
an NWA champion, she had the opportunity to be a

1311
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:45,359
bigger thing in aw and she's got problems with their

1312
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,119
boss that she hasn't resolved yet. So figure it out

1313
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,680
and be there. People want to see you wrestle. You

1314
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,800
could either be a presence for your fans or you

1315
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,279
could relegate yourself back to a mid car promotion run

1316
01:27:57,399 --> 01:28:02,119
by a guy in the Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, yeah, like

1317
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:04,720
and do the Smashing pump melancholy And they've been in

1318
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,119
sickness ruled but do they.

1319
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Well, let's have some fun, you know, get off of

1320
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,600
this kick. What do we think the Wardlow is doing

1321
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,119
right now that he's doing these what are the events.

1322
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:22,039
Speaker 2: We are You know, he's playing movies. He's playing a

1323
01:28:22,039 --> 01:28:25,039
bad guy in BYD movies and I hope he is Okay,

1324
01:28:26,199 --> 01:28:26,920
have any ideas.

1325
01:28:28,319 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what word though is doing. It could

1326
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:33,840
be a number of things.

1327
01:28:34,199 --> 01:28:36,199
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

1328
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1329
01:28:38,119 --> 01:28:40,199
Speaker 1: One thing he's not doing is wrestling. I mean he

1330
01:28:40,279 --> 01:28:43,880
had at a match schedule that he was pulled from it.

1331
01:28:44,399 --> 01:28:48,680
Uh so that maybe when that happens that generally means

1332
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,239
a return. Uh. Personally, I think word though has been

1333
01:28:52,319 --> 01:28:55,680
gone because and of course I want to preface this

1334
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,119
by saying this is pure Kelson speculation. And when I

1335
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:03,239
say Kelson's spelation, you can replace Kelson speculation with one

1336
01:29:03,279 --> 01:29:10,680
word stupid. So I think that Wardlow is, as Shane said,

1337
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,840
filming not nine but a movie. Uh. He is doing

1338
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,920
the Richard gear role in Pretty Woman with Sidney Sweeney

1339
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,479
and the Julia Roberts role.

1340
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, why can't I say the effort on this podcast, Kelson?

1341
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,680
That's exactly you know what I'm not gonna do. I'm

1342
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,720
not gonna do Shane, Shit, that's what you think about.

1343
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: You've seen You've seen Wardlow in a suit. The dude

1344
01:29:39,039 --> 01:29:41,800
looks like your rich playboy bro.

1345
01:29:42,119 --> 01:29:46,079
Speaker 2: He worked at the bar I get myself, you know,

1346
01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:49,439
you know, I got my I was. I get myself

1347
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,640
in trouble for talking about stuff.

1348
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: I know.

1349
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,319
Speaker 2: Hey Wardlow, I've seen you in a suit at the

1350
01:29:55,399 --> 01:29:59,039
Barley House at West Sixth in downtown Ohio.

1351
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Dude, way, well, well, well, well, what what's the thing?

1352
01:30:05,079 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 2: Don't dude? That's a thing.

1353
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:10,159
Speaker 1: That's a thing you gotta say I don't know. I

1354
01:30:10,199 --> 01:30:12,640
don't have to. You're gonna make me look it up.

1355
01:30:13,079 --> 01:30:16,680
Just tell me what the Barley house is inquiring.

1356
01:30:17,359 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: A bar owned by a douchebag dude. He cut Wardlow

1357
01:30:22,119 --> 01:30:26,760
cut his He cut his jib in the Pennsylvania like

1358
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,159
my book, Tyler, Listen.

1359
01:30:30,399 --> 01:30:34,399
Speaker 1: You're not saying anything. Listen, I need a.

1360
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 2: Second to get my words together, Like Wardlow was built

1361
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,920
out of the Pennsylvania system. And he was built out

1362
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,199
of the same system that Adam Cole and Britt Baker

1363
01:30:44,319 --> 01:30:47,039
came out of. And and he is a rock star,

1364
01:30:47,279 --> 01:30:50,920
and we I want Wardlow back. I believe that he

1365
01:30:51,159 --> 01:30:53,960
has the potential to be a top guy in aw

1366
01:30:54,359 --> 01:31:00,640
but but he's habitually injured. He is seven foot something,

1367
01:31:01,119 --> 01:31:01,720
what is he six?

1368
01:31:03,039 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that big. He just looks tall.

1369
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, let's let's listen. I have no evidence as

1370
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:18,000
to what Wardlow is doing in Las Vegas. I only

1371
01:31:18,079 --> 01:31:20,279
know that he's an Ohio guy. That's what I know.

1372
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,119
He's been there.

1373
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:31,079
Speaker 1: Speaking of returns, how excited are we about Eddie Kingston.

1374
01:31:31,119 --> 01:31:31,960
I mean he's been.

1375
01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 3: Oh God, I am beside myself. Give you with joy.

1376
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 2: Kelson's doing a bed.

1377
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm out.

1378
01:31:44,239 --> 01:31:45,119
Speaker 2: What can I guys?

1379
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: What are you look?

1380
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,520
Speaker 3: I don't know why Edie.

1381
01:31:54,359 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 2: I won't be a co conspirator to this. I'm out.

1382
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:58,239
I'm out.

1383
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 1: And disrespect.

1384
01:32:05,079 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 2: What do you mean? I'm showing brother, I love you.

1385
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:11,000
I'm not showing you no disrespect. I am out of this.

1386
01:32:13,119 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 1: I love Eddie Kingston.

1387
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 3: To this podcast so he knows.

1388
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: I hope everybody listens to this podcast because they should.

1389
01:32:27,399 --> 01:32:32,960
This is like these these spaces are important for professional

1390
01:32:33,039 --> 01:32:35,560
wrestling because you've got to let a tribal a lot

1391
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,079
of tribalism and a lot of places, but it's not

1392
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:42,640
it's very rare to have an organic perspective from fans

1393
01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:47,720
that are not angry or spiteful or jaded or manipulated

1394
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,960
by the narrative. And this is a place where we

1395
01:32:50,079 --> 01:32:54,000
have an opportunity, We have an opportunity, we have the

1396
01:32:54,119 --> 01:32:57,800
responsibility and an opportunity to say, Hey, this is what

1397
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:02,520
it is you need to say, you need to say.

1398
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,359
I love Eddie Kingston, right, I.

1399
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:12,159
Speaker 1: Love Eddie Kingston. I'm literally sitting here just drenched in sweat,

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anticipating and this is right now. But you know, you know,

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but Shane, what you said is right. You know, this

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is what the AAW fan Hub is about. We want

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to have fun wrestling. I said it earlier. It's not

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rocket science. It's fun. It's fun. It's supposed to be escapism.

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We want to escape. We don't mind people coming in

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with different opinions. We have ww fans on this podcast.

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We have WWE fans on the AEW fan Hub subreddit that, honestly,

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they don't appreciate, not saying that they don't like They

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don't appreciate AW as much as they appreciate WWE. But

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you know what, they come on there and they're civil

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and they make they put effort into their comments, and

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they make a point without being condescending. They ask questions,

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they state why they may not enjoy something as much

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as what they're preferred. Promotion is. That's fine. We don't

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take bias against that. We only care about the people

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that have an opinion that are willing to share it

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and be part of the community, not against it or

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a detriment to it.

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Speaker 2: It should be a benon Kelson, I'm gonna double down.

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It should be a community because we're all here for

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the same reason. Brother, we love professional wrestling. And we

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all come from a place where we grew in it,

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and we should not use it as a platform to

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spread hate or vitual. We're all here for the same

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reason to see cool stuff. Like you disagree, well, look,

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we could disagree with each other about how we perceive

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things to be happening, but at the end of the day,

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we're all gonna still meet here in the middle and say,

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hey man, it's happening and it can't happen.

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Speaker 1: Look, we have the Wrestling Hub Discord server. It's a

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very active server, and we have AW fans, WWE fans,

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New Japan fans, Joshi fans, Lujah fans, Indie fans. There's

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talk about everything every day. Am I right or am

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I wrong?

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Speaker 2: You my brother, you're right.

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Speaker 1: All right. When's the last time you saw anybody have

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a tribalistic spat on that server? And I haven't. I

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haven't either. I can't remember the last time I've ever

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had to remove a post other than somebody accidentally posting

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a spoiler in the wrong channel or something like that.

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Those are the only posts that get removed, you know,

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and they can just repost it, you know, in the

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proper channel. But my point is is that WWE fans

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and a w fans can get along because WWE fans

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and a W fans on our discord server are talking

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to each other, and they talk to each other a

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lot about a lot of different things.

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Speaker 2: Heyn some of the coolest things that that that's happened. Dude,

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there are a lot of cool things happening happening in

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w W E two and AW is my preferred flavor

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of professional wrestling at the end of the day. Let's

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take it. Let's take the take this at base value.

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We're all here for the same reason. And Kelson said

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it escapism. If it's not escapism to you, it's something

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you're genuinely passionate about. And let's all be here for

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each other. Don't don't talk shit to someone just because

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they disagree with you, and and don't spread misinformation because

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we need more of the real out there. We want

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to see the cool stuff that's happening, and we all

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got to get together for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: Man, go ahead, net I'll give your name out.

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Speaker 3: I was speaking of cool stuff. Did you see the

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news about Mr.

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Speaker 2: Where's Me?

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Speaker 3: He and his wife have gotten back together, renewed their

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wedding bounce.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, isn't that sweet?

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Speaker 2: J got back together?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, but that's that's that's that's good news. I

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I'm one of those weird people that like to see

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people be happy instead of miserable. Mean, you know, and

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so if they're at the obviously they were obviously in love.

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Yeah before Uh, it sounds to me like they had

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a little bit of a disagreement or whatever. Again, I

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wasn't there. Uh, they split up, they got back together

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for forever. I mean, I think that's great news. Yeah,

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I think that that That actually made my night.

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Speaker 2: That made It's a good wrap up to this Podkelson. Yeah,

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we get to we get to go out a good

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note outside of aw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, Dynamites tomorrow night. All we talk right

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after Dynamite. Maybe we do get swear Strickland calling out

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John Moxley and winning the championship in the first thirty

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seconds of the show. We can I can dream, I

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can dream. Hey we may see Speedball Mike Bailey, Oh god,

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you know, there's.

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Speaker 2: So many we have so many prospects on their way

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to aw speed My goodness.

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Speaker 3: I love I love Speedball, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I know hey, we got Look, look, there's gonna be

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some There's gonna I mean, we've already known that MJF

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is gonna be there tomorrow night and speaking live, which

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is always a good time.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Look, we have stories that need to be furthered, We

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have stories that need to be begun, so you know,

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and the way that Dynamite and Collision have been running

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in twenty twenty five, specifically ever since they joined Max,

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it's just hit a little bit different, and I mean

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that in a very positive way. I expect tomorrow night's

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show to be very much worth watching, and I hope

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you'll watch it with us in our live chat on

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01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,439
the aw fanub subreddit and of course on a wrestling

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01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,359
Hub discord, and you'll join us tomorrow night to talk

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01:39:31,399 --> 01:39:35,800
about Dynamite right here on our discord the Wrestling Hub

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for the aw fan Hub podcast team.

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Speaker 2: This is Kelson, This is Shane die Bud.

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Speaker 1: This is Nat. Good night, everybody, good night, any in

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Yah