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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samantha Fay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Damn Bealie, and we're so happy to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here with us. It doesn't feel like mercury retrograde, Deb,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of weird mishaps keep happening. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to be spending this time interviewing a lovely guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks to time zones, we got wires crossed and

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<v Speaker 1>that's no longer happening. So Deb and I were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's just do an old fashioned chatty

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<v Speaker 1>show since we're here together.

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<v Speaker 2>So y'all just listen in on our conversation. That's really

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<v Speaker 2>what it's gonna goow down.

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<v Speaker 3>To exactly why not? And so we thought we would.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we're kicking at old school this week, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>we would start with a toureaux of the week and

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<v Speaker 1>a crystal of.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all have asked for this for a while now, and

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha and I it's not necessarily that we've been resistant

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<v Speaker 2>to it. It's been like, how do we do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and how do we bring in relevant to today's information

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<v Speaker 2>that's different, perhaps in some way than when we did

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<v Speaker 2>the turou in the crystal of the week for you

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<v Speaker 2>all a long time ago. But in any case, all

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<v Speaker 2>that aside, here's the taro key I've picked today. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really did do exactly what we used to do

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<v Speaker 2>in the old days, which was to pick a key

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<v Speaker 2>at random.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because we've been talking off air for like an

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<v Speaker 1>hour waiting for our guest, and I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we should just hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Record exactly, so here we are. The logical in me

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to start with the fool and I thought, no,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not do that. But here's this showed up today,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am enough of a believer and there are

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<v Speaker 2>no accidents that there is a reason that the High

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<v Speaker 2>Priestess is with us in today's episode. You know, when

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<v Speaker 2>we think about the High Priestess, she really does represent

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<v Speaker 2>so much of where many people are when they begin

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<v Speaker 2>there to row journey. They want to know so much

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<v Speaker 2>and they want Hughts. All of us want to know

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<v Speaker 2>so much and do so much, and yet there are

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<v Speaker 2>mysteries and layers and layers of mystery and deep connections

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<v Speaker 2>among various beliefs. As you all have heard me say

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<v Speaker 2>a zillion times, I am working from the Waite Smith

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<v Speaker 2>deck as always. So let's look at this key in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what she's wearing, and take a look at

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<v Speaker 2>that beautiful blue gown and how it trails off the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of the key and around and over it. At

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<v Speaker 2>one point is a crescent moon. She is the daughter

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<v Speaker 2>of the moon. She is deeply connected to the moon

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<v Speaker 2>goddess Selene, for example, from which the word Selenite comes from,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is protected by those lunar deities. The water

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<v Speaker 2>that pours off the key is the water that melts

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<v Speaker 2>from the cliff upon which the fool stands in the

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<v Speaker 2>very first key in to row, and you will watch

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<v Speaker 2>it flow, of course through the entire major arcana. The

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<v Speaker 2>blue that she's wearing represents emotion, introspection, the direction of west,

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<v Speaker 2>the element of water, none of which if you notice

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<v Speaker 2>a present on the magician key, The magician is the

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<v Speaker 2>yang to the High Priestess. She and the crown on

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<v Speaker 2>her head represents the Egyptian goddess Author and isis the

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<v Speaker 2>High Priestess is a symbol of being a virgin, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>and unto herself. That solar equal armed cross on her

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<v Speaker 2>breast represents a balance of forces in one's life. The

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<v Speaker 2>Hebraic scroll in her lap is titled Torah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>spelling of that is important because the word is properly

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<v Speaker 2>spelled t r H. And if you look at it closely,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see that the H is hidden. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a reminder to us that there will always be that

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<v Speaker 2>which we cannot know as we study esoteric thought. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a really important lesson that the High

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<v Speaker 2>Priestess gives us, to remind us that we can't know

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<v Speaker 2>it all, we will never know it all, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of it is still meant to be unknown. And she

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<v Speaker 2>is seated on a throne before a veil, and between

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<v Speaker 2>the veil and the two pillars that flank her is

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<v Speaker 2>this absolutely beautiful screen al Moses fail upon which are

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<v Speaker 2>pomegranates and palm trees. Pomegranates, of course, tell us the story,

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<v Speaker 2>remind us the story of and her daughter Persephone's sojourn

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<v Speaker 2>into the underworld with the god Hades, and the palm

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<v Speaker 2>trees represent masculine energy. So again, so much of the

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<v Speaker 2>High Priestess Key offers us an observation of finding balance

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<v Speaker 2>in our lives, however that balance may come for you.

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<v Speaker 2>The same is true with those pillars beside her, Boaz

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<v Speaker 2>and Joaquin. The black pillar of boas the gray pillar

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<v Speaker 2>of Joaquin. The black pillar represents what Eden Gray calls

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<v Speaker 2>a negative life force, and the gray pillar of Joaquin

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<v Speaker 2>is a positive life force. She doesn't mean negative and

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<v Speaker 2>positive in a good and bad way, but rather in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of as we think of a charge of a battery,

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<v Speaker 2>for example. So a balance. Once again, So keep in

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<v Speaker 2>mind that the High Priestess invites the fool on his

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<v Speaker 2>or her journey and us to dig deeper to find

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual symbols that connect us to each other, to find

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge that leads us to a path of enlightenment. She

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<v Speaker 2>offers both an emotion and a physical balance in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>She is, as some folks say, isis veiled. She is

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<v Speaker 2>the link between the mundane world and the spiritual world.

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<v Speaker 1>When she shows up in a reading, don't you usually

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<v Speaker 1>interpret it as a sign that the queran has intuitive

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<v Speaker 1>abilities and needs to rely on going within and trusting

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<v Speaker 1>that inner knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do. That is exactly what When I see

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<v Speaker 2>the High Priestess in a reading, I know I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody who is in the early stages, perhaps of

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<v Speaker 2>a spiritual journey and an intuitive learning process, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is always a reminder to keep learning. She always comes

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<v Speaker 2>to say, you're on the right path, keep going, keep learning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the crystal I chose is rainbow obsidian, which I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely adore because it's such a powerful stone. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>formed from molten lava, but we call it a stone,

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<v Speaker 1>and it hardens so fast that it didn't have time

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<v Speaker 1>to crystallize, so it works quickly and efficiently for you

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It helps you break through personal barriers to

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<v Speaker 1>realize your potential on your spiritual path. Rainbow obsidian helps

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<v Speaker 1>cut through cords that are stuck in your heart chakra,

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<v Speaker 1>eliminating energetic hooks from old wounds. Energy workers and healers

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<v Speaker 1>can use rainbow obsidian after a session to replenish their aura.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel stuck or worried about a situation, you

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<v Speaker 1>can meditate with rainbow obsidian to help you cut through

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<v Speaker 1>the worry to see issues more clearly. It's also been

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<v Speaker 1>known to help increase your luck. It's a great stone

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<v Speaker 1>for manifesting. You can visualize your goal while holding your

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<v Speaker 1>rainbow obsidian, see a perfect image of yourself achieving that goal,

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<v Speaker 1>and then place it in the center of a grid

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<v Speaker 1>to help you really work on projecting that manifesting image

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<v Speaker 1>out into the world. Rainbow Upsitting is this shiny black

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<v Speaker 1>stone that has these rainbow hues to it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's also a fantastic stone for anyone going through grief

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<v Speaker 1>because it reminds you that there is a rainbow at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that storm, so you can visualize the

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<v Speaker 1>rainbow hues projecting into your heart chakra to help heal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wonderful stone for gazing into as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been used as a scrimier for millennia. You can scry,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning just gaze as you meditate into your rainbow obsidian stone,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just want to kind of allow your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>to glaze over so you can kind of zone in

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<v Speaker 1>and out as you focus on a question. Just allow

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<v Speaker 1>the stones joyful energy to help infuse your aura with

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<v Speaker 1>clarity and insight. But it's got a really cool history.

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<v Speaker 1>It was named after the Roman explorer Obsidious, So because

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<v Speaker 1>of this and its dark color, it's often been associated

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<v Speaker 1>with the underworld and the dark waters of the river

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<v Speaker 1>Sticks because of its glass like midnight velvety black hue,

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<v Speaker 1>and because when you break it, if you break open

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<v Speaker 1>a rainbow obsidian, it reveals an even sharper edge. It's

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<v Speaker 1>even sharper than surgical steel. Can you believe that ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Greeks and Romans would often use obsidian for a powerful

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<v Speaker 1>tool for cutting away mental illness? So today, metaphysically, this

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<v Speaker 1>is why a lot of energy healers will use it

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<v Speaker 1>to help cut away energetic cords that are negative, negative

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<v Speaker 1>energetic ties, bad habits, or remove spiritual blockages. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really funstone to work with and research, and it

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<v Speaker 1>can do so much wonderful things for you. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's most famously known as a scrying tool. If

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<v Speaker 1>you know someone who is going through a difficult time

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they're just not doing well in life,

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<v Speaker 1>they're grieving something, whether it be the loss of a

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<v Speaker 1>physical person or the loss of a job or a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>gifting them with a rainbow obsidian and including in the

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<v Speaker 1>tag the metaphysical properties for helping heal from grief.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just I think a lovely thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, John Dee used obsidian for his crying and

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually see it in the museum in London.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>I know? I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all right? So, Samantha, why are that up to?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've been up to a lot of work, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've also been up to a lot of family stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>My wonderful, amazing, beautiful daughter, Tory, graduated college last weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>so so happy for her. And then I helped my

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<v Speaker 1>oldest daughter Olivia move into her.

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<v Speaker 3>First real grown up place, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, she's got a great career, she's doing well, and

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<v Speaker 1>now she has this beautiful, fancy place.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I spent just the last two days helping her

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<v Speaker 1>move all of that. Well, actually Michael did most of

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<v Speaker 1>the heavy that.

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<v Speaker 3>Poor man in down.

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<v Speaker 1>Headboards, footboards, end tables. I'm like, you got it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Did he? Oh? What he was getting into when he did?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't? Yeah, poor women, I did tell him. So

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<v Speaker 3>we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my step son is graduating high school this week,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to be going to that and we're

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<v Speaker 1>having a big party at our clubhouse. So just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of family stuff. I've got a lot of wed

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be gone every single weekend throughout I've

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<v Speaker 1>been gone every weekend in May. I'll be gone every

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<v Speaker 1>weekend in June. And the first weekend in July. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even begin to tell you how much stuff

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<v Speaker 2>I've got going on, but it's all so incredibly exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>This course series that Zarah and I are doing together

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<v Speaker 2>is just so much fun. The folks who have joined

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<v Speaker 2>us in this very first of the program have just

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<v Speaker 2>been delightful to work with. And some of them I'm

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<v Speaker 2>known for a long time. Some are new folks to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just wonderful to learn from and with other

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<v Speaker 2>folks in this way about the notion of connectedness. That's

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, is a big thing for me. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having a lot of fun with that. There's more coming.

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<v Speaker 2>And then working on a new book, which I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>excited about. I don't think i'm at liberty yet to

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<v Speaker 3>The title, such a cool title.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, yeah hear it for working that out with

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<v Speaker 2>excited about that. I also am involved in a project

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<v Speaker 2>social justice, and gentrification in our region. The first piece

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<v Speaker 2>was published last month, so I'm working on a new

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<v Speaker 3>I got to see the first read through you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you did for the first act? You at Lyst

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<v Speaker 3>First first act.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the premise, Oh, thank you, thank you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lovely project and such fun to be working with

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<v Speaker 3>I think, well, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do about. I'd love your opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>deb with my mom ooh Dotail. So you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about your writing projects, and I'm really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>work on my next writing project, and I'm vacillating between

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<v Speaker 1>too many ideas, and I keep coming back to this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of writing about from a spiritual perspective. Writing about

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<v Speaker 1>having a difficult mother or a mother who doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>know how to love unconditionally, And I thought it would

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<v Speaker 1>other motherly goddesses throughout right. So I thought I could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weave it in that way. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not finalizing it. It's not coming into anything. But I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>doubt write it out. So I wrote my newsletter about

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<v Speaker 1>how complicated grief can be when you don't really miss them,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's not that I don't miss her, it's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't miss the drama. I don't miss the anxiety. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't miss the you know which version of my mom

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So I wrote that really hemmed in hot over sharing

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to talk about that stuff. As I've said

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<v Speaker 1>before in the show, I think it's the last taboo

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about having a mother you don't like, or.

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<v Speaker 3>Who doesn't like you, or who doesn't like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me rephrase that, I actually do like my mother,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the love thing that's difficult because of her

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<v Speaker 1>difficultness anyway, So I finally submitted it, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I share the same person who helps us with our

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter stuff and making sure it gets out. She had

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<v Speaker 1>never seen this before. It went to less than one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of my subscribers. Ed, she doesn't she doesn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean I looked, she called, we cannot figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how that happened. So that really freaked me out right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh God, maybe she doesn't want me

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<v Speaker 1>to write this. So then a couple of weeks later,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and I are going, we're getting ready our

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<v Speaker 1>friend of our her daughter's getting married. This is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, three weeks ago, four weeks ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>so my sister calls me in the morning and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what are you wearing? And she's like, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>and I will come pick up you and Michael and

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<v Speaker 1>So we're making all these plans and I see this

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<v Speaker 1>thing and I don't know, this white fuzzy thing in

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<v Speaker 1>my prepheral vision, and that had been happening all week.

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt my mother around me all week.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was no message, there was no nothing. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like she was just she's nosy, so she probably

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<v Speaker 1>was just poking in to say hi, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And coming, I'll watch you. We're gonna wear bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, ain't that the truth? So I said to Courtney,

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<v Speaker 3>have you been.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling Mom around more than usual? And she said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I was gonna say the same thing. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's constant. I'm almost like, is she haunting me or

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<v Speaker 1>she visiting me? I said same. So we were just

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<v Speaker 1>haunting us, and we hung up, and my day goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I get ready for the wedding and I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, and I thought, you know, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>aquamarine ring that my dad got my mom for I

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<v Speaker 1>think their thirtieth or thirty fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>Wedding anniversary, and my mom never wore it.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't like aquamarine, and so ye're like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten years ago, I said to Mom, how come you

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<v Speaker 1>never wear that ring? And she said, I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a really special ring to me because

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<v Speaker 1>going shopping for her anniversary gift, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a happy memory, you know, like we went to all

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<v Speaker 1>these fun jewelry stores and we had this lovely lunch

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<v Speaker 1>and so I said, well, if you don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>can I have it? And she was like, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it. So I've had that ring for

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time, and so I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm gonna wear it to the wedding since

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<v Speaker 1>she's around us a lot and maybe it'll help her

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<v Speaker 1>connect with us better. So I wear the ring. We

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<v Speaker 1>go to the wedding, We have a great time, and

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<v Speaker 1>and then Courtney Mere in the back, and we're facing

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<v Speaker 1>each other, like you know, chatting about the wedding and

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<v Speaker 1>all the events and how lovely it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm twisting my ring. Do you ever? I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think you ever? You don't have that habit to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I always if I have like a big.

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<v Speaker 1>Ring on my finger, I will twist it. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>twisting it as I'm talking to her. It goes flying

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<v Speaker 1>off of my hand and it lands right by her

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<v Speaker 1>in the seat. Long story short, the ring is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>We cannot find it. We got our phone flashlights out.

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<v Speaker 1>When we got back to my house, we got actual

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<v Speaker 1>flashlights out. We're shining flashlights everywhere. The next morning, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>practically pulled that whole back seat out. The ring is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So Courtney and I could not make sense of that,

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<v Speaker 1>except Mom doesn't want you to have the ring. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it had flown off my finger because Mom was saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney should have the ring because she loved Courtney so much. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to give her the ring.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's gone. Even Courtney can't have it. So I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't end there, Oh right, Okay, so we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how strange it is. Monday, she gets up early

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<v Speaker 1>and she's drying her hair and the lights, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>power goes out in her house and she's like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's annoying. So she texts some of her neighbors. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>So she goes to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband calls the energy people.

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<v Speaker 3>They come out to the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This, like I said, this is a little over three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. They still that company still cannot figure out

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<v Speaker 1>why they lost power. They're still looking into it. They

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<v Speaker 3>Can figure out what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And the energy company people have been out to her

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<v Speaker 1>house a lot, and we just think it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, I mean, it's scary because anytime you have

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but for some reason she feels strongly that it's

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<v Speaker 1>connected to my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have two things to say about that. One,

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<v Speaker 2>let me go back to the rink. It's the word

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for, teleporting. Thank you. I was new it

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<v Speaker 2>was close into nowhere? Where did the ring go? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a car in a closed situation, right, It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like you were out in public anywhere. Right? No,

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you where to say? Go and find it?

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<v Speaker 3>Go?

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<v Speaker 2>And what was up with your mom with that?

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<v Speaker 3>And it'd be nice if we knew two psychics we

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<v Speaker 3>could ask it would would.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a going to body, let me know, would

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<v Speaker 2>you there's that? And who wonder in a closed space?

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I would invite you to do because

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<v Speaker 2>you were in your brother in law's car. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>remembering the way? Yep? And she liked him.

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<v Speaker 3>She loved him. Everyone loves him. He's the nicest man.

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<v Speaker 2>He is very nice. I've met him. So maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>can ask whoever you talk to put the ring back

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<v Speaker 2>and let it just show up, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 2>back floorboard of the car whatever. So ask to have

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<v Speaker 2>it back. And if the answer is that you're not

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to have it and you're supposed to give it

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<v Speaker 2>to Courtney, give it to Gourney exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm fine with that. I just don't want it

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<v Speaker 1>lost in her car. It's a really nice ring, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So ask for it back. That's it. Don't want Item two.

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<v Speaker 2>As we've been talking, the room I am in has

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, your mom's here.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom is here.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think that's about?

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<v Speaker 2>I think she wants to be in on this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about mothers.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what was her thing?

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<v Speaker 2>She used to always say, Oh, she got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of second.

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<v Speaker 3>Know about Hitler's mama.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that was Joel's mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that was Joel's mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl's mother would say that his birthday, no, it was

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary for a death is this week. But Joel's mom

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<v Speaker 2>would when they would be talking about Hitler and bad things.

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<v Speaker 2>Joel's mom would say, well, his mother loved him. My

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<v Speaker 2>mother did not say that. My mother had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other phrases, but that was not one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something really nice that dev does. If you guys

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<v Speaker 3>don't know already, she records on your calendar the death

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<v Speaker 3>dates of all her friend's family members died. Yeah, everyone

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<v Speaker 3>who has died, and.

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<v Speaker 1>She will, you know, reach out to that person around

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<v Speaker 1>that anniversary, which on the anniversary.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I think it so lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>And that might be one reason why my mom is

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<v Speaker 1>pissed because if you remember, she and my dad bought

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<v Speaker 1>the drawers in the mausoleum in that thing, would you agree,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fancy flipping cemetery.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, And that's a fancy mausoleum, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gorgeous. It's a gorgeous, gorgeous place. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they bought those mausoleum drawurs, I think when they first

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<v Speaker 1>moved here in the late nineties, early two thousands, forever ago.

423
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<v Speaker 2>And four lots in that cemetery, you do, crisister, I

424
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<v Speaker 2>own four lots in that cemetery.

425
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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, you're fancy too, But.

426
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<v Speaker 2>We did the same thing. Mom and Daddy bought them

427
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 2>one hundred years ago when they would cheat.

428
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's hard to get in there now, but

429
00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:49.039
<v Speaker 1>you're not going there, nope. Okay, just wondering because I

430
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like I got to seek the chalk ful and

431
00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>nut can, right, and then okay, well we'll talk about that.

432
00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:56.640
<v Speaker 2>That's right, the cho prow and nuts can. We'll come

433
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<v Speaker 2>back to that.

434
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<v Speaker 1>That's where Dev's ashes will be one hundred years from now.

435
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<v Speaker 1>So my mop bought the mausoleum drawers forever ago, and

436
00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:09.279
<v Speaker 1>she gave my sisters and me each a key and

437
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.599
<v Speaker 1>would always say, this is so you.

438
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<v Speaker 3>Can visit us even when it's raining. I'm not kidding,

439
00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:19.960
<v Speaker 3>because that the sebretery was.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Obviously always open. I guess I've never seen the gates closed.

441
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>But I do close them at sun Debt.

442
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but we have a key to the It's a

443
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<v Speaker 1>beautiful building, the mausoleum with all the stained glass, and

444
00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>we have a key to that. And Courty and I

445
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:38.079
<v Speaker 1>have not been in quite some time, so maybe she's mad.

446
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I hate sitting in there. There's pews in there and

447
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.759
<v Speaker 1>you can sit and you can pray, and there's beautiful outside.

448
00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather just sit outside because there's all those beautiful trees,

449
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>But inside there's.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Like gnats and fly I don't. I don't like it.

451
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<v Speaker 1>It creeps me out knowing that my parents are up

452
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<v Speaker 1>in those two. Of course, they're in the.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Two top drawers deb courts. They are, They're the two

454
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<v Speaker 3>highest top drawers.

455
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a whole article about trying to switch out

456
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.039
<v Speaker 1>the flowers and have pissed off.

457
00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I got that they had to have the.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to tell you. The mazleumb where Samantha's

459
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:20.400
<v Speaker 2>parents are interred, is it is? You know, if you

460
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<v Speaker 2>can think in terms of a mazoleum being a beautiful building,

461
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 2>this it really is. And Samantha's father's service stand was lovely.

462
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.519
<v Speaker 2>It was quite an event. There were a lot of well,

463
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, really, you want it was quite a fit.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I think what shocked you the most

465
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<v Speaker 1>it was open casket.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't do upe casket.

467
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<v Speaker 1>I know, I didn't. I was not a fan. I

468
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>had no say so in any of that. And my

469
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:49.279
<v Speaker 1>mother do you remember my mother leaned her elbow on

470
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<v Speaker 1>the open casket as she gave a lovely eulogy to

471
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>my father, and I think that's what shocked you the most.

472
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.400
<v Speaker 2>It felt like she was standing like a torch song

473
00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 2>triller singer, yeah, at a piano as she was talking

474
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 2>about your sweet father.

475
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>And I remember she said he was such a handsome man.

476
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 1>He had many opportunities to stray, but he never did.

477
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:13.839
<v Speaker 3>He was always loyal.

478
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, freshet on your face was praiseless.

479
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I was trying.

480
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 3>It was the first time you met her.

481
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>That was the first time I met you. Yeah, that was.

482
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>But there we were in that Losley and but I

483
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have another basoleum story. Kill. I don't know how we

484
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:34.880
<v Speaker 2>got off of this, but here we go. I told

485
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.799
<v Speaker 2>you you just go listen in on me talking. So

486
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>several years ago, one of our local metaphysical stores got

487
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 2>a call from a man in a Southwestern state explaining

488
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 2>that his wife was a witch and she was originally

489
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<v Speaker 2>from here, and she had had a long bout with cancer.

490
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<v Speaker 2>He said he had no they did not share any

491
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<v Speaker 2>kind of spearrtual beliefs in any way, so he didn't

492
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.599
<v Speaker 2>quite know what to do with all of this. But

493
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 2>her dream was that he would bring her ashes back

494
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>here where she was born and that there would be

495
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>some kind of a ritual to honor her life conducted

496
00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>by someone who was a pagan. And so he called

497
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>this metaphysical store looking for somebody who could basically be

498
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a funeral off ship in that way, and the store

499
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>gave him my name. So he called me and we

500
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:33.440
<v Speaker 2>had just the nicest conversation, and what a nice man,

501
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.279
<v Speaker 2>and what a sad, sad situation he was in. He

502
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.319
<v Speaker 2>was determined to honor his wife's wishes. So I said,

503
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 2>we did whatever he needed me to do, and I

504
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>would conduct it in a way that honor what I

505
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>would imagine was at least the basis of her beliefs.

506
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 2>But he warned me that her family did not hear,

507
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 2>did not share her beliefs, and it might be problematic.

508
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh what am I getting into? So in

509
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>any case, we got it all worked out. I'm going

510
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 2>to do the funeral in a cemetery, not the same

511
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 2>lovely one that your folks are in, but a different one,

512
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to do a gray side thing. Right.

513
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 2>So I gather all of my fire, air, earth water directions, accouterments, stuff,

514
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, and had written something to say about this

515
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 2>lovely woman and it was raining cats and dogs. There

516
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>was no way that this service could be held outside,

517
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 2>so the folks who run the cemetery opened the mausoleum

518
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>so that we could go in and use that building.

519
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 2>It was a different energy in that mausoleum than the

520
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>one with your mom and dad. It had some chairs,

521
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 2>but it was not pews. It did not feel sanctuary

522
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 2>ish really in that way. But nonetheless, they gave me

523
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 2>a table and I created an altar, and there folks

524
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 2>came and it all worked out just beautifully. Nobody got

525
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>up and hollered at me or burned me at the

526
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 2>stak or anything like that, yelled anything bad about her,

527
00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 2>which I was so grateful. It all turned out to

528
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>be a very reverent and very honoring ceremony for this

529
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>lovely woman and made her husband feel like he had

530
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>honored her wishes in this situation. So those are my

531
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>two experiences in a mausoleum, Samantha.

532
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, but no advice on it. If my mom is

533
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>haunting us or not.

534
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I think your mom is haunting you, but that's just

535
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>because I think it's your mom.

536
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think what I'll do. See this is why

537
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 3>just talking about stuff is so helpful because.

538
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Sitting here thinking, I'm like, you know what, I'm just

539
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>going to make my sister and me go to the

540
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>mausoleum and sit there, and if her power comes back

541
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>on and I find I mean, she has power. But

542
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 1>if they fix the power issue and I find the ring,

543
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll report back to everyone.

544
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that would be a lovely thing for you

545
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 2>to do. I do believe that your mom has work

546
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 2>to do with the three of you, and I do

547
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 2>think that she probably doesn't know how, and so she's

548
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 2>getting your attention in ways that she can. And she

549
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 2>knew that ring would get your attention.

550
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 3>Right, right, and power will get your attention. Well, yeah,

551
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 3>we all need electricity.

552
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what it would be like for you to

553
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 2>just wish her a nice day every morning, just to say,

554
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, Mom, I wish you I hope you're at

555
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>peace today.

556
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a great idea.

557
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I do include her in my prayers, I do, But

558
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of just in.

559
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 2>The morning say specific thing for her. Yeah.

560
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I will definitely do that.

561
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Because I you know, I think when you know it's

562
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm back to that. Hellen Greeves Testimony of Light Perspective

563
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of what we're doing on the other side, and I

564
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.599
<v Speaker 2>have all ideas that that your mom's work is ongoing.

565
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure.

566
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's move on from death and haunting mothers

567
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and Williams. I want to focus on what you and

568
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I were.

569
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Talking about before we hit record. But we've got to

570
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 3>take a very quick break. We'll be right back, Okay.

571
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:17.000
<v Speaker 3>I have a crystal pop quiz for you. Are you ready?

572
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>No cheating?

573
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>What crystal was once believed to hold the trapped lights

574
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<v Speaker 1>of the Aurora borealis. Legend says a warrior found the

575
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 1>shimmering stone and struck it with his sword, releasing the

576
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 1>beautiful lights into the night sky. When you wear this crystal,

577
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 1>it acts like a strong filter, blocking out negative energy

578
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>coming your way while also letting in all the positive vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's often called the stone of magic because it helps

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00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 1>connect you to the magic hidden within you. When you

581
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>wear this stone, it helps you walk with ease through

582
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 1>your intuitive journey. And here's your last clue. It helps

583
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 1>awaken and strengthen your third eye chakra. Ready for the answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you already guess it? It's labradorite and for the

585
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<v Speaker 1>entire month of June, my Labradorite bracelets are on sale.

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<v Speaker 1>All of my bracelets are handstrung by me. Each one

587
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 1>is made with an affirmation that I repeat as a

588
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 1>form of my meditation. The Labradorite bracelets are made with

589
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 1>the mantra I embrace the magical intuitive energy within me

590
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>through divine grace and protection. All bracelets come with a

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00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>blessing card and a tag explaining the attributes of the stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus you get a free fortune and a crystal as

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<v Speaker 1>a gift for you. Check it all out at Samantha

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<v Speaker 1>Fay dot com and click the stores tab. Okay, before,

595
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 1>when we were talking deb you had said, let's talk

596
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to people about how we are connecting with ourselves with

597
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 1>spirit and what we feel we need the most right

598
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 1>now because it is super busy and chaotic in our

599
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>personal lives, but also there's just a lot going on

600
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>in the world right now, and sometimes we can get

601
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>caught up all of that and forget to just kind

602
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>of tune in and be focused and centered. And I

603
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.039
<v Speaker 1>think it's an important reminder.

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00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I would love for.

605
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 1>You to tell people what you've been doing with your

606
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 1>card of the day, because I think that's really cool.

607
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I will I'd be happy to share that with him.

608
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Before I do that, then, let me just say this.

609
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Anybody who's listening to this podcast for any length of

610
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 2>time has heard me say that. Spirit will say to me,

611
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>and probably to you in some other way, will you

612
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>just sit down and shut up so I can talk?

613
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Fair can't talk, We don't shut up. And that chatter

614
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 2>that rolls around in my head all the time, I

615
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>literally have to tell it to be quiet, and sometimes

616
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 2>when I do that, there's still this buzzing in my head.

617
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:48.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm outside in the middle of a bunch

618
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>of bugs for people, and I have to say, just stop,

619
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.240
<v Speaker 2>just stop. Put the damn phone, damn turn off the

620
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 2>freaking computer, what the book out? I mean, all those

621
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>things that are part of my routine to just be

622
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<v Speaker 2>for a minute.

623
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<v Speaker 3>Right.

624
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 2>So one of the ways that I had been working

625
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>on that since a Stara basically to the middle of March,

626
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>is that I have been almost every day. There have

627
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>been a few days where I have missed, but almost

628
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 2>every day in the morning, I shuffle my trow deck

629
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 2>three times, say my prayer, and pull off the card

630
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>on the top and take that as my lesson for

631
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the day. I've been keeping a record of what that's

632
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 2>been like. And so I followed that through from Astara

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<v Speaker 2>to Friday Night, which was the dark of the moon, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I pulled the last card, and I thought, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take that period of time and do

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<v Speaker 2>an analysis of what has come up and what has noted.

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<v Speaker 2>I found as I was going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that, sorry, Deve just pulled out a really cool,

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<v Speaker 1>ginormous book.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that your Book of Shadows?

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<v Speaker 2>It is?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold it up for it so I can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on everybody, Hey, hey, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Great for audio. This is everyone's very intrigued. Oh that

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<v Speaker 3>is is that the book is?

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<v Speaker 2>The book is dear Hyde. It was a gift from

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine. And then the spiral on the

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<v Speaker 2>front is spelt and it's set up so that I

649
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<v Speaker 2>can add books to it, books inside it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, sorry, go ahead, that's okay. So I made

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<v Speaker 2>some notes here, let me find them, all right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I learned. What was really interesting, more than

654
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<v Speaker 2>what I pulled was what I didn't pull. So in

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<v Speaker 2>any suit over that period of time, I pulled no threes,

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<v Speaker 2>no sixes, no eight or no nines. Yeah, hmm, that's

657
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<v Speaker 2>right where I went exactly. The key that I pulled

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<v Speaker 2>most often, was it all four suits? The five time

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<v Speaker 2>for a victritten little chaos, right.

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00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm for adventure and change.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder, so three is about creativity and communication, which

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<v Speaker 1>clearly you're doing a lot of right now. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if it didn't appear because it's already happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know.

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00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And the six is about really stepping into your light

666
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 1>and being an entrepreneur, and you're doing all of that.

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00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 1>The nine is the humanitarian deb You've been a humanitarian

668
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<v Speaker 1>since you were five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And the eight is about money and stability, right and

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00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 2>eternity right, yep. But none of those showed up, had

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<v Speaker 2>none in any suit, none at all. But the key

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<v Speaker 2>that came up most I had the five of pentacles

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<v Speaker 2>three times, the five of swords once, the five of

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00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.360
<v Speaker 2>cups four times, and the five of wand's once.

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<v Speaker 3>Now are they all upright? Reverse?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you make note of that? I do make notes

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<v Speaker 2>of that, okay. With for example, with the five of peddacles,

678
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<v Speaker 2>I had one reversed, one upright, and two reversed. In

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00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>the five of cups, it was even. It was two

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00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>upright and two reversed. The others were all upright. Then

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of major arkonic keys, I had the Empress,

682
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:40.800
<v Speaker 2>the Hermit, judgment, strength, the Wheel, the Star, the moon,

683
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 2>the sun, and the world twice.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of major arconic.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking what seven weeks, eight weeks? Oh yeah, yeah,

686
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of major arcana in that period.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of folks show up. I had some court cards,

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<v Speaker 2>more kings than anybody else along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that idea because I think I even bought

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<v Speaker 1>you some. I have those little stickers, a little to

691
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<v Speaker 1>ro stickers.

692
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<v Speaker 2>I had them right here. I can see them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I like to do is pull a card

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, and then I like to find the

696
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 1>corresponding sticker, and I put it in my journal and

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00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 1>I just write. I use it as a jumping off

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<v Speaker 1>point for writing. I don't I hardly ever reread what

699
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<v Speaker 1>I write in a journal or look.

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00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Back like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really cool that you've been putting it

702
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>down and going back to see patterns and what's there

703
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and what's not there. That's the step I don't do.

704
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<v Speaker 1>And I just wanted you to share that with everyone,

705
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>because that's a great skill. It's a great aha moment

706
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 1>that we can all have if we start doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just keep a legal pad because I started again,

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<v Speaker 2>started a new pattern on the day of the new

709
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>moon on Saturday, and so I just write on a

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00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 2>legal pad the date and what a God. And then

711
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>when I make the decision, it's kind to reassess and

712
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:04.440
<v Speaker 2>look again. I'll go back and do the same analysis

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<v Speaker 2>the next time and compare what was I doing during

714
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 2>this period of time and what will I be doing

715
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 2>the next time. And I think one of the things

716
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>that I would recommend that folks look at and think

717
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>for themselves might be helpful in this discussion is that

718
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we take an isolated incident in our spiritual or

719
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>metaphysical journey and it's big and it feels huge, right,

720
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.679
<v Speaker 2>And if we look at that in context of the

721
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 2>bigger picture of ongoing events in our lives, it may

722
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>shift its change and its meaning. Here's an example. I

723
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 2>got a text from a young friend last week and

724
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:52.280
<v Speaker 2>she was so excited she had seen two hawks chasing

725
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>each other in the sky. That had to be big. Well,

726
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>in that typical deb oh, I should have been kinder way,

727
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I wrote back their mating.

728
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 3>You were watching cinemax in the sky.

729
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>You are being a voyeur, And she didn't respond. I

730
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>could tell that that was not the answer she was

731
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<v Speaker 2>looking for.

732
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 3>But that could still have big meaning.

733
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Well it could, it could, absolutely, but you take it

734
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.280
<v Speaker 2>in bigger context, and when you are asking for a

735
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 2>particular piece of information, then you have to trust that

736
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 2>it is indeed a signed Me and my hawk with

737
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the quitting my job, remember that I'm retiring from my job.

738
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can still see that hawk turning around

739
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.360
<v Speaker 2>and looking at me. And my sweet friend Rachel, who

740
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 2>was standing with me and watched it happens, looked at

741
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 2>me and said, how many signs do you need? Dev

742
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 2>so right? She and I talked about that the other day.

743
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Having those little daily rituals though, of pulling a card

744
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 1>or journaling, I think is such a needed thing right

745
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>now to help us find our compass our center. Oh absolutely,

746
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I can't stop thinking about. I really

747
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.079
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed our interview, our talk with Teresa.

748
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Chung just down. Yeah.

749
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>She was just like a wealth of information and I

750
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>hope we can have her back.

751
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 3>But when she talked.

752
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 1>About what happens to the brain when we read fiction.

753
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>That that really stuck with me because this is something

754
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 1>my book club and I we were just talking about this.

755
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 3>At our last book club.

756
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Most of us are listening to the books each month

757
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:44.760
<v Speaker 1>because we're so freaking busy. Oh no, so when we

758
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>are at the gym or driving and running errands or

759
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 1>cleaning our house, we're killing two birds at one stone.

760
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 3>We're listening to the book of the month.

761
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 1>And when Teresa was talking about and I do read

762
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>nonfiction every day, I love not Fit, so I'm reading

763
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that every day. Told you about the book I'm reading now,

764
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to share it in a minute.

765
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:06.280
<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

766
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I do read nonfiction every day. Fiction I

767
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>tend to listen to. And when she talked about how

768
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 1>it's not listening and it's not nonfiction, you have to

769
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>read fiction, and how it stimulates parts of your brain

770
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 1>almost identical to meditation, that really stayed with me because

771
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>haven't you felt that when you're reading a book and

772
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you get swept up into that other world and you

773
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 1>might be on your couch, sitting on your lovely patio

774
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 1>or porch and you know, spring day, but you're in

775
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.679
<v Speaker 1>a whole different world, just like you are when you meditate.

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00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just can't stop thinking about that,

777
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and I love that. Just reading fiction, I mean, according

778
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to Teresa's research, is kind of like meditating, and we

779
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>can use that as a way to connect with spirit,

780
00:42:58.039 --> 00:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>or at least with ourselves, maybe not spirit.

781
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm like you, of course, I don't listen to stuff.

782
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I listen to music, and it takes me, it transports

783
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>me in a different way to places, and I have

784
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 2>a whole of the thing with music. But I don't

785
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 2>want to listen to books. I can't. I need to

786
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 2>see the words. I hear, the words, I hear, the scenery.

787
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean. For example, one of the reasons that I

788
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 2>so love the Mary Stewart trilogy about Merlin and King

789
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Arthur is because before I physically stood on that cliff

790
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 2>at Tintagile, I could hear those crashing waves. I knew

791
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:43.119
<v Speaker 2>what Tintagile sounded like because of reading Mary's books. I

792
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know that I would have had the time to

793
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 2>go there. Reading slows me down.

794
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 3>That's so true.

795
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Whereas if I'm listening, if I were, and I won't

796
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 2>do it, but I can imagine that I was listening

797
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 2>to something. I just have to keep going along with

798
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the audio thing. Where there's a book, I can stop

799
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 2>it go. I could see this cliff, I can hear

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00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 2>these waves.

801
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can let the words wash over you in

802
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:09.199
<v Speaker 1>a different way.

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00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah.

804
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Although you would love like BBC Radio drama. You would

805
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 3>love that.

806
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Where it's different actors acting out the parts and there's

807
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 1>all the audio.

808
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Like Charles Paris with Bill Nyi is such a great

809
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 3>radio series.

810
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 1>You'll have to check it out. You know Bill Nyi

811
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>right from about Time and Love actually right?

812
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

813
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Do you know who he's dating?

814
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>It is the best coupling ever.

815
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Do tell he is dating the newly retired editor of

816
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Vogue and a Winter.

817
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, now see that is certainly not somebody I know.

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00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh really, Oh, come on the head of Vogue for

819
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 3>like thirty years with the sunglasses. Yeah, do he for

820
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 3>wears Prada.

821
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't even get me started about that Prada thing, because

822
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what that was. A tild student told me,

823
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I really did not. When you say the

824
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Vogue to be the only person I can think of

825
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>course is Jackie Kennedy.

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00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a little bit of an outdated reference dub

827
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.159
<v Speaker 1>that's all good at say so hip and trendy with

828
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.119
<v Speaker 1>everything else except pop culture.

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00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I am so good and trendy not and I am

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00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.239
<v Speaker 2>so old? Right remember that, students, so proceed.

831
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Guides, please help me to remind about the words that

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00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.119
<v Speaker 1>come after the phrase I am.

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00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I know that, I do know that, And I don't

834
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.400
<v Speaker 2>mind being old. I just have a lot to do.

835
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 1>You don't look old, you don't act old.

836
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.440
<v Speaker 3>You're not old, period the end.

837
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm not. Oh. I had the most fun at

838
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 2>a Rising Appleachic concert last week. God, I had such

839
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>a good time. Those gals are just amazing and it

840
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>was fun and made me think I was an an old, grateful,

841
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>dead shit. Oh it was great with so much fun.

842
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Beth Vow's daughter should have been with me.

843
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I bet she would have loved it.

844
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>All right.

845
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 3>I want to tell people about this book are reading,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to hear about what you're reading. But

847
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<v Speaker 3>let's take our last break. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, y'all, it's deb and I am so excited that

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<v Speaker 2>coming in June is the second three session course in

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00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 2>our Sacred Summer series. It's entitled Sacred numbers aligning to

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00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.440
<v Speaker 2>earthly patterns. Join me and Zarah Renee as we explore

852
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the magic and sacredness of numbers, from the spiral of

853
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>seashells to labyrinths to your house number. Come learn why

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<v Speaker 2>and how numbers matter in your world. Registration opens Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>May twenty ninth, and details are on my website, deboen

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. We so hope you will join us. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you want to talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>what we are physically reading, not listening to.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I am physically rereading two books. I'm in a

862
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of place with that at the moment. I'm rereading

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00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Shirley Maclean's Out on a Limb, and I'm rereading that

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00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 2>because I realized that in doing this podcast and in

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<v Speaker 2>teaching the courses that I teach, there are times that

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<v Speaker 2>I take what for me is basic metaphysics one oh

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00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 2>one for granted, and I realize that I need another

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<v Speaker 2>way to conceptualize that and to explain it. And Shirley's

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00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 2>book takes me back there to that. Another book I

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<v Speaker 2>am rereading is by Jan de Blue. Jan's last name

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00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 2>is spelled de e b l I e U. And

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the book is Wind. How the flow

873
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 2>of air has aped life, myth and the land. I'm

874
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:05.719
<v Speaker 2>reading a book about wind.

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00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Let the party start.

876
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I adore this book.

877
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm kidding, No, I know, I'm sure No. Is

878
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 3>it like is it ecological? Or is it like earth? Wind?

879
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:18.199
<v Speaker 3>Air fire?

880
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 2>All of the above? All of the above, all of

881
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.719
<v Speaker 2>the above. One of the things that I'm looking for

882
00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 2>are how wind is viewed and named in cultures around

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<v Speaker 2>the world. For example, for many years, my vehicle what

884
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:42.079
<v Speaker 2>I drove every day was a Toyota Chinook camper. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know where the word chinook comes from. It's a

886
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Pacific Northwest word, and it describes a certain kind of

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00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.039
<v Speaker 2>wind at a certain time of year in that culture,

888
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>like a Chiraco for example.

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00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>That reminds me of a book and a movie I

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00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 1>love a lot with Johnny Dupp. And remember she follows

891
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<v Speaker 1>the north.

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00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Wind right exactly exactly, Okay, And how wind around the

893
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 2>globe has shaped culture. What would have happened had the

894
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>trade winds gone in the opposite direction, right, there would

895
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 2>have been a very different story for this continent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I never really thought about any of those things.

897
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's kind of what I've been off on a

898
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 2>tangent thinking about for the past few days.

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<v Speaker 3>Wind. Okay, I love it, Dub.

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<v Speaker 2>And one more quick thing, and I quite about that,

901
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.199
<v Speaker 2>the El Nino and the Pacific which controls hurricanes for

902
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 2>us here in the Atlantic. Oh yeah, it's a great

903
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.320
<v Speaker 2>thing for us. It's a bad thing for folks over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it is good, Okay, because I just guys, you

905
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what Dub puts me through every summer

906
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 1>with hurricane season.

907
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, a lot.

908
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 2>It is a lot, Samantha.

909
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you have your hurricane preparedness kit ready? Yes, dep

910
00:49:58.360 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I've got the batteries.

911
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.159
<v Speaker 3>Have you changed? Matter is how old are the batteries?

912
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:02.679
<v Speaker 3>Are they new? Did you check them? Do they work?

913
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.000
<v Speaker 3>How many flashlights?

914
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<v Speaker 2>Do you have your mahogany of city? Yes?

915
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you have I mothogony of city already?

916
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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I do those things to you.

917
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Actually, she's like a part time meteorologist from what May

918
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 1>to September.

919
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 2>I tell you why, there's a part of me that

920
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 2>would love to have majored in meteorology. A friend of

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00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>mine's mother was the first woman to graduate with a

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00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:31.880
<v Speaker 2>degree in meteorology from Cornell Wow, you should have been

923
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a fly on the wall with my conversations with her.

924
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<v Speaker 1>Oh, like, cause I've just tried to think, like when

925
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 1>people would ask me, oh, what are you working on,

926
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.679
<v Speaker 1>and I'd say, oh, I'm researching a book about dreams.

927
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Great conversation starter, right, everyone wants to talk about dreams.

928
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Magine sitting across the table from this lovely lady, I'm

929
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<v Speaker 1>working on a.

930
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:53.599
<v Speaker 3>Book about wind.

931
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating.

932
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<v Speaker 1>It does sound fascinating. I'm just being sassy for no reason,

933
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 1>so tell me about that. So I'm very excited about

934
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:06.039
<v Speaker 1>this book i'm reading. I'm slowly making my way through.

935
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It's by Edward Wilson Lee. It's called The Grammar of

936
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Angels and the subtitle is the life of Renaissance prodigy

937
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and his search for a philosophy of everything. So here

938
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:19.199
<v Speaker 1>in the States I could not find this book. I

939
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 1>had to order it from England. Just letting everyone know

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00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 1>might be a little bit harder if you're in the

941
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<v Speaker 1>US to find it, which is sad because it's a

942
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 1>really cool book. So I'll just read you what it says.

943
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Is there a language so powerful that the speaker can

944
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 1>control the listener, taking over their thoughts and even their will.

945
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Could man transcend his mortal limitations and join the ranks

946
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 1>of the angels? Renaissance prodigy, polymath and uncontested marvel of

947
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 1>an age of true wonders, Giovanni Pico della Mirandola believed

948
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.599
<v Speaker 1>there was. This is the story of Pico's short but

949
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>brilliant life and his search for philosophy that would settle

950
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the most important questions of human experience. It's a thrilling

951
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 1>account of intellectual daring, the willingness to think the unthinkable

952
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and peer over the edge of the abyss in search

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<v Speaker 1>of answers.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA, Oh, I.

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00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Know, it's really cool. It's very heavy, I do feel

956
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm back.

957
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Speaker 3>In school, but I do like that.

958
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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of ordering books from England, my sweet friend Clay

959
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Are the co author of my last book. I asked

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00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:30.599
<v Speaker 2>her to send me because I couldn't find it in

961
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the States, the Unfortune's book, The Magical Battle for Britain

962
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 2>that she wrote during World War Two, and she did.

963
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<v Speaker 2>She sent it to me, So I've just finished that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely want to borrow that from you, sure,

965
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 3>because it's fascinating to me how many books you just

966
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 3>can't find anymore.

967
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh you just came.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, like Deb shared before we were recording that the

969
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 3>are we producing Ted Andrews.

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00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Books lleue Ellen. It's working with them on that. Yeah,

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00:52:58.679 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 2>thank covers.

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00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited about that because there's some of his

973
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 1>old books you can't find. I mean you can on

974
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>like a books or thrift books or maybe archive dot org.

975
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.559
<v Speaker 1>But it's getting harder. So that's fantastic.

976
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I ordered a copy of Animals Speak for a friend's

977
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 2>birthday in April, and ordered it from bookshop dot org,

978
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 2>which supports independent bookstores.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

980
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 1>So do you want to talk about before we wrap up?

981
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to talk about some shows we want

982
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 1>to do? Maybe hear back from listeners if they like it.

983
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Sure, okay, I would like to hear it.

984
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to do more of the Crystal and

985
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the toureaux of the week.

986
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, if that is helpful to folks, we can certainly

987
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>do that. I don't see why not. We've also been

988
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 2>asked to do material on a Sainte and on a Goddess.

989
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I would like to do that too.

990
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.119
<v Speaker 2>See here's my thing.

991
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 1>If we do a crystal the month, a tourow of

992
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.079
<v Speaker 1>the month, a Saint of the month, a Goddess of

993
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 1>the month.

994
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.760
<v Speaker 3>What that's you know, that's too much. Maybe we should

995
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.480
<v Speaker 3>just do a Saint of the month and the Goddess

996
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:13.519
<v Speaker 3>of the month for the summer and see how that goes.

997
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Try something new. Listen to the old episodes with Tourou

998
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and Crystal stuff. If they want to well with you,

999
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 2>do that.

1000
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to do a show on these weird

1001
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.320
<v Speaker 1>billionaire bunkers. I don't know if you want to do

1002
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that show, because I know how that stuff makes you nervous.

1003
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I heard that underneath what's it called the ballroom that's

1004
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.159
<v Speaker 1>being built in DC, the reason why it's costing so

1005
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>much is because there's a bunker underneath there.

1006
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 2>There's a whole thing underneath. I mean it's more than

1007
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:49.480
<v Speaker 2>a bunker. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a whole big complex

1008
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:54.360
<v Speaker 2>of safety, scurity, safety. Yeah.

1009
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:56.599
<v Speaker 1>And so I just think it'd be cool to la

1010
00:54:56.719 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Speaker 1>de a deep dive and look at why are these

1011
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:02.679
<v Speaker 1>billionaires and leaders all over the world, not just in

1012
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:04.559
<v Speaker 1>America building these bunkers.

1013
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 3>What do they know?

1014
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:10.559
<v Speaker 2>But we've been here before, Samantha, Yeah, at beginning of

1015
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the atomic age, even people built these things in their backyard,

1016
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:17.119
<v Speaker 2>these hidden things in.

1017
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 1>The back but that at least you knew why you

1018
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:23.960
<v Speaker 1>were building that. I mean, there was a tangible, real

1019
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:26.159
<v Speaker 1>threat we all knew about and could name.

1020
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:29.079
<v Speaker 3>This one. We don't know.

1021
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>There's talk that there's some meteor hitting us in what

1022
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>three years, but we don't know what it is. And

1023
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 1>so that's why I kind of want to dive into it.

1024
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 1>But I know you don't like that stuff, so I

1025
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:41.960
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to run it past you.

1026
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it, but you write about it, and

1027
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll see if I'm willing to do it with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Dun It scares me.

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00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I know, No, it does scare me too. But that's

1030
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.679
<v Speaker 3>why I think we need to look at it. I know, dear,

1031
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 3>I know, what about you? What do you want to

1032
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:00.239
<v Speaker 3>talk about?

1033
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.760
<v Speaker 2>You know? And this is entirely further where you're going here.

1034
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 2>But there's been a lot of I've got a lot

1035
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.480
<v Speaker 2>of emails and a lot of questions recently about trees

1036
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and mushrooms and about that web of connectedness that's both real,

1037
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:23.079
<v Speaker 2>physical and metaphorical, and what do we do with that?

1038
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember that book A listener recommended years and years ago,

1039
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 1>The Secret Life of trees. Yeah, there's some documentary on

1040
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 1>the mushrooms, the fungai.

1041
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's a whole big thing that I'm just

1042
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I fell in love with that documentary from the diver

1043
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:46.760
<v Speaker 2>who became friends with the octopus and when that octopus

1044
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:48.199
<v Speaker 2>patted him on the face.

1045
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 3>My octopus teacher.

1046
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I burst into tears and I couldn't stop crying.

1047
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I cried thinking about it. Well, Sally Field and some

1048
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 2>other folks got a new thing about the octopus and.

1049
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 3>A of a different octopus. It's based on the prediction story.

1050
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I love that notion of how do we

1051
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 2>communicate with across quote species? Right. I was talking to

1052
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 2>a friend of my oldest friend, been for instance, of

1053
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.400
<v Speaker 2>third grade, and we were talking about our cats last night,

1054
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<v Speaker 2>and he was telling me about some things that were

1055
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.519
<v Speaker 2>going on with his current cat, and I was explaining

1056
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>to him how Merlin saw the world very differently than that.

1057
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, Merlin had this okay, let's hang out and

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens attitude, very different than his very skittish cat.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that about? And how do we communicate with our folks?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know how you and Lily were, right? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not just the folks we live with, or

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<v Speaker 2>how do we look at folks all around us that

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<v Speaker 2>we may not even spend much time thinking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think we should do it. Put the notes together.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're done with your wind book, you can read

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<v Speaker 1>your tree books.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the wind research is for the book I'm currently writing,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's more to it. And that's just one step

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<v Speaker 2>of the process.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you I read that fascinating study I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to look into and do a show on how scientists

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<v Speaker 1>were discovering there are places on Earth where people heal

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<v Speaker 1>two to four times faster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I just think that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Those doorway places in the world as well, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be portal areas and healing does happen around there.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the study I was reading, it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>those doorway places or those thin places as they call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was anywhere there are bee hives. It was places

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<v Speaker 1>where there were ancient monasteries. So it wasn't just geographical.

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<v Speaker 2>Locations, but's some kind of residual energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yeah, this is where you're going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which takes me to ten thousand doors of January.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, It's still one of.

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<v Speaker 2>My very favorite books ever. I just love that book

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<v Speaker 2>because the notion of thresholds is just and where the

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<v Speaker 2>word itself comes from. I mean, we could talk about

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<v Speaker 2>thresholds in many different ways, couldn't we went to the

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<v Speaker 2>whole episode in addition to the healing episode. We could

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<v Speaker 2>do a talk about doorways and thresholds and both physical

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<v Speaker 2>and metaphorical along the way. That would be a fun talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you and I have both stood in amazing

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<v Speaker 2>doorways in our travels.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I would like to get back to our

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<v Speaker 1>book club or remember we would pick a book in

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<v Speaker 1>the month. I don't think you really liked that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that you and I pick such different

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<v Speaker 1>ones we do, and we didn't want to read each

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<v Speaker 1>other's necessarily. So maybe we could do it one month.

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<v Speaker 1>You just share a book you're reading and I just

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<v Speaker 1>go uh huh oh wow and ask you questions.

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<v Speaker 3>On the next month, I do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, And the other issue that I have with

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<v Speaker 2>doing this is that you know me. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to one on want I want to look

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<v Speaker 2>y'all I mean, it's great that you're reading a book

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<v Speaker 2>that got published last week. Please read mine Is and Memphis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there you go, But have you read something from

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen six? I mean have you I don't know, have

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<v Speaker 2>you read Ruth Montgomery's biography of Jene Dixon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something I did want to do. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to do shows where we just do little snippets of

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<v Speaker 1>famous intuitives who have gone before us, instead of the big.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep dives we've done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be fun to do a show or

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<v Speaker 1>two and just I'll cover four, you cover four like

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<v Speaker 1>Meve's Patilla, we need to talk about her and the

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<v Speaker 1>work she contributed to mediumship and psychic abilities before she

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<v Speaker 1>left the world, or Janet Nohavak.

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<v Speaker 3>To Laura's canon, Right, would you like to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Sure, that'd be fun. Okay, absolutely would be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And so really we all stuck with us this far

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<v Speaker 2>and our time together in this episode is you're really

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<v Speaker 2>listening to what Samantha and I do A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>times a year. We always do right before New Year's.

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<v Speaker 3>And again we pick a card.

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<v Speaker 2>We do we do are? We do allreading? And we

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<v Speaker 2>had this kind of brainstorming ideas, and always the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>questions are what are we doing to be of service

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<v Speaker 2>to you? What are we choosing to speak about that

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<v Speaker 2>is in some way helpful to you? And then what

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing to really look at the bigger picture

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<v Speaker 2>of metaphysics and the psychic world and what our contributions

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<v Speaker 2>to it might be.

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<v Speaker 3>That's always our hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad we got such great feedback from the

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<v Speaker 1>Banned Bible, like the books kicked out of the Bible show.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Delphi. We've gotten some nice emails show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we got a really cool email about a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who spent some time visiting Delphi. She told us how

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<v Speaker 1>to pronounce it in a very nice way, and she

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<v Speaker 1>gave us some really cool history.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm going to save it for our upcoming Q

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<v Speaker 3>and A.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, So we appreciate hearing from you all and

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha and I way those kind of shows because one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>those shows take a ton of research and a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of time. They're not something we just pop off the

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<v Speaker 2>top of our head. We really do take deep dives

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<v Speaker 2>into the research for them. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>work that goes into those which is fine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we're happy to do it, but we also want to

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<v Speaker 2>know is this resonating with you? Is this something you

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<v Speaker 2>really want? And we're getting some nice feedback that says

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<v Speaker 2>in died you do, so thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I've enjoyed talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you too, it was really lovely to actually spend

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<v Speaker 2>this hour. If you're doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well we've been talking for over two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>My golly, we sure have. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm kind of glad our guests didn't show up. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>not that he didn't show up, he could.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I sent him the wrong time, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>time zones not my friend, what.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be my world. Working with one co author

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<v Speaker 2>five hours ahead and one four hours behind, I'd spend

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<v Speaker 2>my whole day count on my fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Youll that's what you gotta get WhatsApp and just text him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too big.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't it too big? It's one app.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll show you, okay, Dear, thank you. Here we go,

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01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 2>y'all drag me into the modern world, kicking and screaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we got in the meantime. Thank you, Samantha, dear.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so fun, And thank you everyone for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope you have a beautiful, magical, happy week filled

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<v Speaker 1>with great conversations. Remember, as always, to be the light

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself and others.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Psychic Teachers, your podcast for seekers,

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01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 1>light workers, mystics, and magical thinkers. If you like the show,

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01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.039
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<v Speaker 1>you listen to your podcast. For more information, check out

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01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:22.199
<v Speaker 1>our Facebook page Psychic Teachers, or our websites Samantha Fay

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and Debbowen dot com. Thanks for listening and

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<v Speaker 1>have a great week.