Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samantha Fay,
Speaker 1: and I'm Damn Bealie, and we're so happy to have
Speaker 1: you here with us. It doesn't feel like mercury retrograde, Deb,
Speaker 1: but a lot of weird mishaps keep happening. So we
Speaker 1: were supposed to be spending this time interviewing a lovely guest,
Speaker 1: and thanks to time zones, we got wires crossed and
Speaker 1: that's no longer happening. So Deb and I were like,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just do an old fashioned chatty
Speaker 1: show since we're here together.
Speaker 2: So y'all just listen in on our conversation. That's really
Speaker 2: what it's gonna goow down.
Speaker 3: To exactly why not? And so we thought we would.
Speaker 1: Since we're kicking at old school this week, we thought
Speaker 1: we would start with a toureaux of the week and
Speaker 1: a crystal of.
Speaker 2: Y'all have asked for this for a while now, and
Speaker 2: Samantha and I it's not necessarily that we've been resistant
Speaker 2: to it. It's been like, how do we do that,
Speaker 2: and how do we bring in relevant to today's information
Speaker 2: that's different, perhaps in some way than when we did
Speaker 2: the turou in the crystal of the week for you
Speaker 2: all a long time ago. But in any case, all
Speaker 2: that aside, here's the taro key I've picked today. And
Speaker 2: I really did do exactly what we used to do
Speaker 2: in the old days, which was to pick a key
Speaker 2: at random.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we've been talking off air for like an
Speaker 1: hour waiting for our guest, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: we should just hit.
Speaker 2: Record exactly, so here we are. The logical in me
Speaker 2: wanted to start with the fool and I thought, no,
Speaker 2: let's not do that. But here's this showed up today,
Speaker 2: and I am enough of a believer and there are
Speaker 2: no accidents that there is a reason that the High
Speaker 2: Priestess is with us in today's episode. You know, when
Speaker 2: we think about the High Priestess, she really does represent
Speaker 2: so much of where many people are when they begin
Speaker 2: there to row journey. They want to know so much
Speaker 2: and they want Hughts. All of us want to know
Speaker 2: so much and do so much, and yet there are
Speaker 2: mysteries and layers and layers of mystery and deep connections
Speaker 2: among various beliefs. As you all have heard me say
Speaker 2: a zillion times, I am working from the Waite Smith
Speaker 2: deck as always. So let's look at this key in
Speaker 2: terms of what she's wearing, and take a look at
Speaker 2: that beautiful blue gown and how it trails off the
Speaker 2: bottom of the key and around and over it. At
Speaker 2: one point is a crescent moon. She is the daughter
Speaker 2: of the moon. She is deeply connected to the moon
Speaker 2: goddess Selene, for example, from which the word Selenite comes from,
Speaker 2: and she is protected by those lunar deities. The water
Speaker 2: that pours off the key is the water that melts
Speaker 2: from the cliff upon which the fool stands in the
Speaker 2: very first key in to row, and you will watch
Speaker 2: it flow, of course through the entire major arcana. The
Speaker 2: blue that she's wearing represents emotion, introspection, the direction of west,
Speaker 2: the element of water, none of which if you notice
Speaker 2: a present on the magician key, The magician is the
Speaker 2: yang to the High Priestess. She and the crown on
Speaker 2: her head represents the Egyptian goddess Author and isis the
Speaker 2: High Priestess is a symbol of being a virgin, meaning
Speaker 2: and unto herself. That solar equal armed cross on her
Speaker 2: breast represents a balance of forces in one's life. The
Speaker 2: Hebraic scroll in her lap is titled Torah, and the
Speaker 2: spelling of that is important because the word is properly
Speaker 2: spelled t r H. And if you look at it closely,
Speaker 2: you can see that the H is hidden. It is
Speaker 2: a reminder to us that there will always be that
Speaker 2: which we cannot know as we study esoteric thought. And
Speaker 2: I think that's a really important lesson that the High
Speaker 2: Priestess gives us, to remind us that we can't know
Speaker 2: it all, we will never know it all, and some
Speaker 2: of it is still meant to be unknown. And she
Speaker 2: is seated on a throne before a veil, and between
Speaker 2: the veil and the two pillars that flank her is
Speaker 2: this absolutely beautiful screen al Moses fail upon which are
Speaker 2: pomegranates and palm trees. Pomegranates, of course, tell us the story,
Speaker 2: remind us the story of and her daughter Persephone's sojourn
Speaker 2: into the underworld with the god Hades, and the palm
Speaker 2: trees represent masculine energy. So again, so much of the
Speaker 2: High Priestess Key offers us an observation of finding balance
Speaker 2: in our lives, however that balance may come for you.
Speaker 2: The same is true with those pillars beside her, Boaz
Speaker 2: and Joaquin. The black pillar of boas the gray pillar
Speaker 2: of Joaquin. The black pillar represents what Eden Gray calls
Speaker 2: a negative life force, and the gray pillar of Joaquin
Speaker 2: is a positive life force. She doesn't mean negative and
Speaker 2: positive in a good and bad way, but rather in
Speaker 2: terms of as we think of a charge of a battery,
Speaker 2: for example. So a balance. Once again, So keep in
Speaker 2: mind that the High Priestess invites the fool on his
Speaker 2: or her journey and us to dig deeper to find
Speaker 2: spiritual symbols that connect us to each other, to find
Speaker 2: knowledge that leads us to a path of enlightenment. She
Speaker 2: offers both an emotion and a physical balance in our lives.
Speaker 2: She is, as some folks say, isis veiled. She is
Speaker 2: the link between the mundane world and the spiritual world.
Speaker 1: When she shows up in a reading, don't you usually
Speaker 1: interpret it as a sign that the queran has intuitive
Speaker 1: abilities and needs to rely on going within and trusting
Speaker 1: that inner knowing.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. That is exactly what When I see
Speaker 2: the High Priestess in a reading, I know I'm talking
Speaker 2: to somebody who is in the early stages, perhaps of
Speaker 2: a spiritual journey and an intuitive learning process, but it
Speaker 2: is always a reminder to keep learning. She always comes
Speaker 2: to say, you're on the right path, keep going, keep learning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, the crystal I chose is rainbow obsidian, which I
Speaker 1: absolutely adore because it's such a powerful stone. It's actually
Speaker 1: formed from molten lava, but we call it a stone,
Speaker 1: and it hardens so fast that it didn't have time
Speaker 1: to crystallize, so it works quickly and efficiently for you
Speaker 1: as well. It helps you break through personal barriers to
Speaker 1: realize your potential on your spiritual path. Rainbow obsidian helps
Speaker 1: cut through cords that are stuck in your heart chakra,
Speaker 1: eliminating energetic hooks from old wounds. Energy workers and healers
Speaker 1: can use rainbow obsidian after a session to replenish their aura.
Speaker 1: If you feel stuck or worried about a situation, you
Speaker 1: can meditate with rainbow obsidian to help you cut through
Speaker 1: the worry to see issues more clearly. It's also been
Speaker 1: known to help increase your luck. It's a great stone
Speaker 1: for manifesting. You can visualize your goal while holding your
Speaker 1: rainbow obsidian, see a perfect image of yourself achieving that goal,
Speaker 1: and then place it in the center of a grid
Speaker 1: to help you really work on projecting that manifesting image
Speaker 1: out into the world. Rainbow Upsitting is this shiny black
Speaker 1: stone that has these rainbow hues to it, and so
Speaker 1: it's also a fantastic stone for anyone going through grief
Speaker 1: because it reminds you that there is a rainbow at
Speaker 1: the end of that storm, so you can visualize the
Speaker 1: rainbow hues projecting into your heart chakra to help heal.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful stone for gazing into as well. It's
Speaker 1: been used as a scrimier for millennia. You can scry,
Speaker 1: meaning just gaze as you meditate into your rainbow obsidian stone,
Speaker 1: and you just want to kind of allow your eyes
Speaker 1: to glaze over so you can kind of zone in
Speaker 1: and out as you focus on a question. Just allow
Speaker 1: the stones joyful energy to help infuse your aura with
Speaker 1: clarity and insight. But it's got a really cool history.
Speaker 1: It was named after the Roman explorer Obsidious, So because
Speaker 1: of this and its dark color, it's often been associated
Speaker 1: with the underworld and the dark waters of the river
Speaker 1: Sticks because of its glass like midnight velvety black hue,
Speaker 1: and because when you break it, if you break open
Speaker 1: a rainbow obsidian, it reveals an even sharper edge. It's
Speaker 1: even sharper than surgical steel. Can you believe that ancient
Speaker 1: Greeks and Romans would often use obsidian for a powerful
Speaker 1: tool for cutting away mental illness? So today, metaphysically, this
Speaker 1: is why a lot of energy healers will use it
Speaker 1: to help cut away energetic cords that are negative, negative
Speaker 1: energetic ties, bad habits, or remove spiritual blockages. But it's
Speaker 1: a really funstone to work with and research, and it
Speaker 1: can do so much wonderful things for you. But I
Speaker 1: think it's most famously known as a scrying tool. If
Speaker 1: you know someone who is going through a difficult time
Speaker 1: and you know they're just not doing well in life,
Speaker 1: they're grieving something, whether it be the loss of a
Speaker 1: physical person or the loss of a job or a relationship,
Speaker 1: gifting them with a rainbow obsidian and including in the
Speaker 1: tag the metaphysical properties for helping heal from grief.
Speaker 3: Is just I think a lovely thing to do.
Speaker 1: You know, John Dee used obsidian for his crying and
Speaker 1: you can actually see it in the museum in London.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 3: I know? I love that.
Speaker 2: Well, all right? So, Samantha, why are that up to?
Speaker 1: Well, I've been up to a lot of work, but
Speaker 1: I've also been up to a lot of family stuff.
Speaker 1: My wonderful, amazing, beautiful daughter, Tory, graduated college last weekend,
Speaker 1: so so happy for her. And then I helped my
Speaker 1: oldest daughter Olivia move into her.
Speaker 3: First real grown up place, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, she's got a great career, she's doing well, and
Speaker 1: now she has this beautiful, fancy place.
Speaker 3: I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: So I spent just the last two days helping her
Speaker 1: move all of that. Well, actually Michael did most of
Speaker 1: the heavy that.
Speaker 3: Poor man in down.
Speaker 1: Headboards, footboards, end tables. I'm like, you got it.
Speaker 3: He's like, I got it?
Speaker 2: Did he? Oh? What he was getting into when he did?
Speaker 3: I didn't? Yeah, poor women, I did tell him. So
Speaker 3: we did that.
Speaker 1: And then my step son is graduating high school this week,
Speaker 1: so we're going to be going to that and we're
Speaker 1: having a big party at our clubhouse. So just a
Speaker 1: lot of family stuff. I've got a lot of wed
Speaker 1: I'm going to be gone every single weekend throughout I've
Speaker 1: been gone every weekend in May. I'll be gone every
Speaker 1: weekend in June. And the first weekend in July. It's
Speaker 1: just a lot.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about you.
Speaker 2: I can't even begin to tell you how much stuff
Speaker 2: I've got going on, but it's all so incredibly exciting.
Speaker 2: This course series that Zarah and I are doing together
Speaker 2: is just so much fun. The folks who have joined
Speaker 2: us in this very first of the program have just
Speaker 2: been delightful to work with. And some of them I'm
Speaker 2: known for a long time. Some are new folks to me,
Speaker 2: and it's just wonderful to learn from and with other
Speaker 2: folks in this way about the notion of connectedness. That's
Speaker 2: which you know, is a big thing for me. So
Speaker 2: I'm having a lot of fun with that. There's more coming.
Speaker 2: Subscribe to my newsletter to see where we're going next.
Speaker 2: And then working on a new book, which I'm really
Speaker 2: excited about. I don't think i'm at liberty yet to
Speaker 2: tell the title, although it has.
Speaker 3: The title, such a cool title.
Speaker 2: Thank you, yeah hear it for working that out with
Speaker 2: the public. Sure we went, but it took us a
Speaker 2: while to get there with the title what we did.
Speaker 2: But in any case, the writing is underway, so I'm
Speaker 2: excited about that. I also am involved in a project
Speaker 2: with a regional magazine, working on writing a series of
Speaker 2: companion creative nonfiction pieces to a project looking at climate change,
Speaker 2: social justice, and gentrification in our region. The first piece
Speaker 2: was published last month, so I'm working on a new
Speaker 2: piece for them, and I've written a play co author
Speaker 2: to play with a friend, and we're in negotiations with
Speaker 2: a theater company about that.
Speaker 3: I got to see the first read through you.
Speaker 2: Did you did for the first act? You at Lyst
Speaker 2: saw the.
Speaker 3: First first act.
Speaker 2: I know the premise, Oh, thank you, thank you. It's
Speaker 2: a lovely project and such fun to be working with
Speaker 2: an actor and a writer in town that I really
Speaker 2: admire a lot. So that's fun. So that's kind of
Speaker 2: what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I think, well, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I have been having some weirdness that's just I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do about. I'd love your opinion on
Speaker 1: deb with my mom ooh Dotail. So you know you're
Speaker 1: talking about your writing projects, and I'm really trying to
Speaker 1: work on my next writing project, and I'm vacillating between
Speaker 1: too many ideas, and I keep coming back to this
Speaker 1: idea of writing about from a spiritual perspective. Writing about
Speaker 1: having a difficult mother or a mother who doesn't really
Speaker 1: know how to love unconditionally, And I thought it would
Speaker 1: be really fun to incorporate my love of Mary and
Speaker 1: other motherly goddesses throughout right. So I thought I could
Speaker 1: kind of weave it in that way. But I'm just
Speaker 1: not finalizing it. It's not coming into anything. But I thought, well,
Speaker 1: you know it's Samantha. Remember what deb said when in
Speaker 1: doubt write it out. So I wrote my newsletter about
Speaker 1: how complicated grief can be when you don't really miss them,
Speaker 1: or it's not that I don't miss her, it's I
Speaker 1: don't miss the drama. I don't miss the anxiety. I
Speaker 1: don't miss the you know which version of my mom
Speaker 1: is going to show up to this holiday thing?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So I wrote that really hemmed in hot over sharing
Speaker 1: it in my newsletter, and finally I was like, no,
Speaker 1: just share it. It probably will help someone, because it's
Speaker 1: really hard to talk about that stuff. As I've said
Speaker 1: before in the show, I think it's the last taboo
Speaker 1: to talk about having a mother you don't like, or.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't like you, or who doesn't like you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me rephrase that, I actually do like my mother,
Speaker 1: it's just the love thing that's difficult because of her
Speaker 1: difficultness anyway, So I finally submitted it, and you and
Speaker 1: I share the same person who helps us with our
Speaker 1: newsletter stuff and making sure it gets out. She had
Speaker 1: never seen this before. It went to less than one
Speaker 1: percent of my subscribers. Ed, she doesn't she doesn't know,
Speaker 1: and I mean I looked, she called, we cannot figure
Speaker 1: out how that happened. So that really freaked me out right.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, maybe she doesn't want me
Speaker 1: to write this. So then a couple of weeks later,
Speaker 1: my sister and I are going, we're getting ready our
Speaker 1: friend of our her daughter's getting married. This is like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, three weeks ago, four weeks ago. And
Speaker 1: so my sister calls me in the morning and she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, what are you wearing? And she's like, Peter
Speaker 1: and I will come pick up you and Michael and
Speaker 1: we'll have a glass of wine first and then we'll go.
Speaker 1: So we're making all these plans and I see this
Speaker 1: thing and I don't know, this white fuzzy thing in
Speaker 1: my prepheral vision, and that had been happening all week.
Speaker 3: I just felt my mother around me all week.
Speaker 1: But there was no message, there was no nothing. I
Speaker 1: just like she was just she's nosy, so she probably
Speaker 1: was just poking in to say hi, right.
Speaker 2: And coming, I'll watch you. We're gonna wear bro.
Speaker 3: Well, ain't that the truth? So I said to Courtney,
Speaker 3: have you been.
Speaker 1: Feeling Mom around more than usual? And she said, oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, I was gonna say the same thing. She's like,
Speaker 1: it's constant. I'm almost like, is she haunting me or
Speaker 1: she visiting me? I said same. So we were just
Speaker 1: talking about that and laughing about the idea of Mom
Speaker 1: haunting us, and we hung up, and my day goes on.
Speaker 1: I get ready for the wedding and I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: all of that, and I thought, you know, there's this
Speaker 1: aquamarine ring that my dad got my mom for I
Speaker 1: think their thirtieth or thirty fifth.
Speaker 3: Wedding anniversary, and my mom never wore it.
Speaker 1: She didn't like aquamarine, and so ye're like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Ten years ago, I said to Mom, how come you
Speaker 1: never wear that ring? And she said, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And it was a really special ring to me because
Speaker 1: my dad and I had made a whole day of
Speaker 1: going shopping for her anniversary gift, and it was just
Speaker 1: a happy memory, you know, like we went to all
Speaker 1: these fun jewelry stores and we had this lovely lunch
Speaker 1: and so I said, well, if you don't like it,
Speaker 1: can I have it? And she was like, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I don't want it. So I've had that ring for
Speaker 1: a long long time, and so I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna wear it to the wedding since
Speaker 1: she's around us a lot and maybe it'll help her
Speaker 1: connect with us better. So I wear the ring. We
Speaker 1: go to the wedding, We have a great time, and
Speaker 1: we're driving home and Peter's driving, Michael's in the front,
Speaker 1: and then Courtney Mere in the back, and we're facing
Speaker 1: each other, like you know, chatting about the wedding and
Speaker 1: all the events and how lovely it was.
Speaker 3: And I'm twisting my ring. Do you ever? I don't
Speaker 3: think you ever? You don't have that habit to you?
Speaker 2: I do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I always if I have like a big.
Speaker 1: Ring on my finger, I will twist it. So I'm
Speaker 1: twisting it as I'm talking to her. It goes flying
Speaker 1: off of my hand and it lands right by her
Speaker 1: in the seat. Long story short, the ring is gone.
Speaker 1: We cannot find it. We got our phone flashlights out.
Speaker 1: When we got back to my house, we got actual
Speaker 1: flashlights out. We're shining flashlights everywhere. The next morning, Peter
Speaker 1: practically pulled that whole back seat out. The ring is gone.
Speaker 1: So Courtney and I could not make sense of that,
Speaker 1: except Mom doesn't want you to have the ring. I
Speaker 1: thought it had flown off my finger because Mom was saying, like,
Speaker 1: Courtney should have the ring because she loved Courtney so much. Fine,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to give her the ring.
Speaker 3: But it's gone. Even Courtney can't have it. So I
Speaker 3: thought that was weird.
Speaker 1: It doesn't end there, Oh right, Okay, so we're talking
Speaker 1: about how strange it is. Monday, she gets up early
Speaker 1: and she's drying her hair and the lights, the whole
Speaker 1: power goes out in her house and she's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: that's annoying. So she texts some of her neighbors. Nobody
Speaker 1: lost power.
Speaker 3: So she goes to work.
Speaker 1: Her husband calls the energy people.
Speaker 3: They come out to the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This, like I said, this is a little over three
Speaker 1: weeks ago. They still that company still cannot figure out
Speaker 1: why they lost power. They're still looking into it. They
Speaker 1: had to dig a hole and splice into the neighbors
Speaker 1: electricity until they.
Speaker 3: Can figure out what happened.
Speaker 1: And the energy company people have been out to her
Speaker 1: house a lot, and we just think it's weird.
Speaker 2: That is, I mean, it's scary because anytime you have
Speaker 2: electrical stuff, it's it's frightening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for some reason she feels strongly that it's
Speaker 1: connected to my mom.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have two things to say about that. One,
Speaker 2: let me go back to the rink. It's the word
Speaker 2: I'm looking for, teleporting. Thank you. I was new it
Speaker 2: was close into nowhere? Where did the ring go? I mean,
Speaker 2: you're in a car in a closed situation, right, It's
Speaker 2: not like you were out in public anywhere. Right? No,
Speaker 2: So what do you where to say? Go and find it?
Speaker 3: Go?
Speaker 2: And what was up with your mom with that?
Speaker 3: And it'd be nice if we knew two psychics we
Speaker 3: could ask it would would.
Speaker 2: If you're a going to body, let me know, would
Speaker 2: you there's that? And who wonder in a closed space?
Speaker 2: The other thing I would invite you to do because
Speaker 2: you were in your brother in law's car. Am I
Speaker 2: remembering the way? Yep? And she liked him.
Speaker 3: She loved him. Everyone loves him. He's the nicest man.
Speaker 2: He is very nice. I've met him. So maybe you
Speaker 2: can ask whoever you talk to put the ring back
Speaker 2: and let it just show up, you know, on the
Speaker 2: back floorboard of the car whatever. So ask to have
Speaker 2: it back. And if the answer is that you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to have it and you're supposed to give it
Speaker 2: to Courtney, give it to Gourney exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fine with that. I just don't want it
Speaker 1: lost in her car. It's a really nice ring, all right.
Speaker 2: So ask for it back. That's it. Don't want Item two.
Speaker 2: As we've been talking, the room I am in has
Speaker 2: filled with the fragrance of stargazer lilies.
Speaker 3: Oh, your mom's here.
Speaker 2: My mom is here.
Speaker 3: What do you think that's about?
Speaker 2: I think she wants to be in on this conversation
Speaker 2: about mothers.
Speaker 3: Well, what was her thing?
Speaker 2: She used to always say, Oh, she got a lot
Speaker 2: of second.
Speaker 3: Know about Hitler's mama.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was Joel's mother.
Speaker 3: Oh that was Joel's mother.
Speaker 2: Girl's mother would say that his birthday, no, it was
Speaker 2: anniversary for a death is this week. But Joel's mom
Speaker 2: would when they would be talking about Hitler and bad things.
Speaker 2: Joel's mom would say, well, his mother loved him. My
Speaker 2: mother did not say that. My mother had a lot
Speaker 2: of other phrases, but that was not one of them.
Speaker 3: There's something really nice that dev does. If you guys
Speaker 3: don't know already, she records on your calendar the death
Speaker 3: dates of all her friend's family members died. Yeah, everyone
Speaker 3: who has died, and.
Speaker 1: She will, you know, reach out to that person around
Speaker 1: that anniversary, which on the anniversary.
Speaker 3: That's how I think it so lovely.
Speaker 1: And that might be one reason why my mom is
Speaker 1: pissed because if you remember, she and my dad bought
Speaker 1: the drawers in the mausoleum in that thing, would you agree,
Speaker 1: that's a fancy flipping cemetery.
Speaker 2: Man, And that's a fancy mausoleum, y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gorgeous. It's a gorgeous, gorgeous place. But uh,
Speaker 1: they bought those mausoleum drawurs, I think when they first
Speaker 1: moved here in the late nineties, early two thousands, forever ago.
Speaker 2: And four lots in that cemetery, you do, crisister, I
Speaker 2: own four lots in that cemetery.
Speaker 3: Oh well, you're fancy too, But.
Speaker 2: We did the same thing. Mom and Daddy bought them
Speaker 2: one hundred years ago when they would cheat.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to get in there now, but
Speaker 1: you're not going there, nope. Okay, just wondering because I
Speaker 1: feel like I got to seek the chalk ful and
Speaker 1: nut can, right, and then okay, well we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: That's right, the cho prow and nuts can. We'll come
Speaker 2: back to that.
Speaker 1: That's where Dev's ashes will be one hundred years from now.
Speaker 1: So my mop bought the mausoleum drawers forever ago, and
Speaker 1: she gave my sisters and me each a key and
Speaker 1: would always say, this is so you.
Speaker 3: Can visit us even when it's raining. I'm not kidding,
Speaker 3: because that the sebretery was.
Speaker 1: Obviously always open. I guess I've never seen the gates closed.
Speaker 2: But I do close them at sun Debt.
Speaker 1: Okay, but we have a key to the It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful building, the mausoleum with all the stained glass, and
Speaker 1: we have a key to that. And Courty and I
Speaker 1: have not been in quite some time, so maybe she's mad.
Speaker 1: I hate sitting in there. There's pews in there and
Speaker 1: you can sit and you can pray, and there's beautiful outside.
Speaker 1: I'd rather just sit outside because there's all those beautiful trees,
Speaker 1: But inside there's.
Speaker 3: Like gnats and fly I don't. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: It creeps me out knowing that my parents are up
Speaker 1: in those two. Of course, they're in the.
Speaker 3: Two top drawers deb courts. They are, They're the two
Speaker 3: highest top drawers.
Speaker 1: I wrote a whole article about trying to switch out
Speaker 1: the flowers and have pissed off.
Speaker 3: I got that they had to have the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to tell you. The mazleumb where Samantha's
Speaker 2: parents are interred, is it is? You know, if you
Speaker 2: can think in terms of a mazoleum being a beautiful building,
Speaker 2: this it really is. And Samantha's father's service stand was lovely.
Speaker 2: It was quite an event. There were a lot of well,
Speaker 2: I don't know, really, you want it was quite a fit.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think what shocked you the most
Speaker 1: it was open casket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do upe casket.
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't. I was not a fan. I
Speaker 1: had no say so in any of that. And my
Speaker 1: mother do you remember my mother leaned her elbow on
Speaker 1: the open casket as she gave a lovely eulogy to
Speaker 1: my father, and I think that's what shocked you the most.
Speaker 2: It felt like she was standing like a torch song
Speaker 2: triller singer, yeah, at a piano as she was talking
Speaker 2: about your sweet father.
Speaker 1: And I remember she said he was such a handsome man.
Speaker 1: He had many opportunities to stray, but he never did.
Speaker 3: He was always loyal.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, freshet on your face was praiseless.
Speaker 2: I was trying.
Speaker 3: It was the first time you met her.
Speaker 2: That was the first time I met you. Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: But there we were in that Losley and but I
Speaker 2: don't have another basoleum story. Kill. I don't know how we
Speaker 2: got off of this, but here we go. I told
Speaker 2: you you just go listen in on me talking. So
Speaker 2: several years ago, one of our local metaphysical stores got
Speaker 2: a call from a man in a Southwestern state explaining
Speaker 2: that his wife was a witch and she was originally
Speaker 2: from here, and she had had a long bout with cancer.
Speaker 2: He said he had no they did not share any
Speaker 2: kind of spearrtual beliefs in any way, so he didn't
Speaker 2: quite know what to do with all of this. But
Speaker 2: her dream was that he would bring her ashes back
Speaker 2: here where she was born and that there would be
Speaker 2: some kind of a ritual to honor her life conducted
Speaker 2: by someone who was a pagan. And so he called
Speaker 2: this metaphysical store looking for somebody who could basically be
Speaker 2: a funeral off ship in that way, and the store
Speaker 2: gave him my name. So he called me and we
Speaker 2: had just the nicest conversation, and what a nice man,
Speaker 2: and what a sad, sad situation he was in. He
Speaker 2: was determined to honor his wife's wishes. So I said,
Speaker 2: we did whatever he needed me to do, and I
Speaker 2: would conduct it in a way that honor what I
Speaker 2: would imagine was at least the basis of her beliefs.
Speaker 2: But he warned me that her family did not hear,
Speaker 2: did not share her beliefs, and it might be problematic.
Speaker 2: I thought, oh what am I getting into? So in
Speaker 2: any case, we got it all worked out. I'm going
Speaker 2: to do the funeral in a cemetery, not the same
Speaker 2: lovely one that your folks are in, but a different one,
Speaker 2: and we're going to do a gray side thing. Right.
Speaker 2: So I gather all of my fire, air, earth water directions, accouterments, stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, and had written something to say about this
Speaker 2: lovely woman and it was raining cats and dogs. There
Speaker 2: was no way that this service could be held outside,
Speaker 2: so the folks who run the cemetery opened the mausoleum
Speaker 2: so that we could go in and use that building.
Speaker 2: It was a different energy in that mausoleum than the
Speaker 2: one with your mom and dad. It had some chairs,
Speaker 2: but it was not pews. It did not feel sanctuary
Speaker 2: ish really in that way. But nonetheless, they gave me
Speaker 2: a table and I created an altar, and there folks
Speaker 2: came and it all worked out just beautifully. Nobody got
Speaker 2: up and hollered at me or burned me at the
Speaker 2: stak or anything like that, yelled anything bad about her,
Speaker 2: which I was so grateful. It all turned out to
Speaker 2: be a very reverent and very honoring ceremony for this
Speaker 2: lovely woman and made her husband feel like he had
Speaker 2: honored her wishes in this situation. So those are my
Speaker 2: two experiences in a mausoleum, Samantha.
Speaker 3: Well, but no advice on it. If my mom is
Speaker 3: haunting us or not.
Speaker 2: I think your mom is haunting you, but that's just
Speaker 2: because I think it's your mom.
Speaker 3: Well, I think what I'll do. See this is why
Speaker 3: just talking about stuff is so helpful because.
Speaker 1: Sitting here thinking, I'm like, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to make my sister and me go to the
Speaker 1: mausoleum and sit there, and if her power comes back
Speaker 1: on and I find I mean, she has power. But
Speaker 1: if they fix the power issue and I find the ring,
Speaker 1: I'll report back to everyone.
Speaker 2: I think that would be a lovely thing for you
Speaker 2: to do. I do believe that your mom has work
Speaker 2: to do with the three of you, and I do
Speaker 2: think that she probably doesn't know how, and so she's
Speaker 2: getting your attention in ways that she can. And she
Speaker 2: knew that ring would get your attention.
Speaker 3: Right, right, and power will get your attention. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: we all need electricity.
Speaker 2: I wonder what it would be like for you to
Speaker 2: just wish her a nice day every morning, just to say,
Speaker 2: you know, Mom, I wish you I hope you're at
Speaker 2: peace today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: I do include her in my prayers, I do, But
Speaker 1: I like the idea of just in.
Speaker 2: The morning say specific thing for her. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I will definitely do that.
Speaker 2: Because I you know, I think when you know it's
Speaker 2: I'm back to that. Hellen Greeves Testimony of Light Perspective
Speaker 2: of what we're doing on the other side, and I
Speaker 2: have all ideas that that your mom's work is ongoing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's move on from death and haunting mothers
Speaker 1: and Williams. I want to focus on what you and
Speaker 1: I were.
Speaker 3: Talking about before we hit record. But we've got to
Speaker 3: take a very quick break. We'll be right back, Okay.
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Speaker 1: when we were talking deb you had said, let's talk
Speaker 1: to people about how we are connecting with ourselves with
Speaker 1: spirit and what we feel we need the most right
Speaker 1: now because it is super busy and chaotic in our
Speaker 1: personal lives, but also there's just a lot going on
Speaker 1: in the world right now, and sometimes we can get
Speaker 1: caught up all of that and forget to just kind
Speaker 1: of tune in and be focused and centered. And I
Speaker 1: think it's an important reminder.
Speaker 3: I would love for.
Speaker 1: You to tell people what you've been doing with your
Speaker 1: card of the day, because I think that's really cool.
Speaker 2: I will I'd be happy to share that with him.
Speaker 2: Before I do that, then, let me just say this.
Speaker 2: Anybody who's listening to this podcast for any length of
Speaker 2: time has heard me say that. Spirit will say to me,
Speaker 2: and probably to you in some other way, will you
Speaker 2: just sit down and shut up so I can talk?
Speaker 2: Fair can't talk, We don't shut up. And that chatter
Speaker 2: that rolls around in my head all the time, I
Speaker 2: literally have to tell it to be quiet, and sometimes
Speaker 2: when I do that, there's still this buzzing in my head.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm outside in the middle of a bunch
Speaker 2: of bugs for people, and I have to say, just stop,
Speaker 2: just stop. Put the damn phone, damn turn off the
Speaker 2: freaking computer, what the book out? I mean, all those
Speaker 2: things that are part of my routine to just be
Speaker 2: for a minute.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So one of the ways that I had been working
Speaker 2: on that since a Stara basically to the middle of March,
Speaker 2: is that I have been almost every day. There have
Speaker 2: been a few days where I have missed, but almost
Speaker 2: every day in the morning, I shuffle my trow deck
Speaker 2: three times, say my prayer, and pull off the card
Speaker 2: on the top and take that as my lesson for
Speaker 2: the day. I've been keeping a record of what that's
Speaker 2: been like. And so I followed that through from Astara
Speaker 2: to Friday Night, which was the dark of the moon, right,
Speaker 2: and I pulled the last card, and I thought, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take that period of time and do
Speaker 2: an analysis of what has come up and what has noted.
Speaker 2: I found as I was going through.
Speaker 1: Is that, sorry, Deve just pulled out a really cool,
Speaker 1: ginormous book.
Speaker 3: Is that your Book of Shadows?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 3: Hold it up for it so I can see it.
Speaker 2: Hold on everybody, Hey, hey, it's.
Speaker 3: Great for audio. This is everyone's very intrigued. Oh that
Speaker 3: is is that the book is?
Speaker 2: The book is dear Hyde. It was a gift from
Speaker 2: a friend of mine. And then the spiral on the
Speaker 2: front is spelt and it's set up so that I
Speaker 2: can add books to it, books inside it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's really cool.
Speaker 2: All right, sorry, go ahead, that's okay. So I made
Speaker 2: some notes here, let me find them, all right, Okay,
Speaker 2: here's what I learned. What was really interesting, more than
Speaker 2: what I pulled was what I didn't pull. So in
Speaker 2: any suit over that period of time, I pulled no threes,
Speaker 2: no sixes, no eight or no nines. Yeah, hmm, that's
Speaker 2: right where I went exactly. The key that I pulled
Speaker 2: most often, was it all four suits? The five time
Speaker 2: for a victritten little chaos, right.
Speaker 3: I'm for adventure and change.
Speaker 1: I wonder, so three is about creativity and communication, which
Speaker 1: clearly you're doing a lot of right now. I wonder
Speaker 1: if it didn't appear because it's already happening.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1: And the six is about really stepping into your light
Speaker 1: and being an entrepreneur, and you're doing all of that.
Speaker 1: The nine is the humanitarian deb You've been a humanitarian
Speaker 1: since you were five years old.
Speaker 2: And the eight is about money and stability, right and
Speaker 2: eternity right, yep. But none of those showed up, had
Speaker 2: none in any suit, none at all. But the key
Speaker 2: that came up most I had the five of pentacles
Speaker 2: three times, the five of swords once, the five of
Speaker 2: cups four times, and the five of wand's once.
Speaker 3: Now are they all upright? Reverse?
Speaker 2: Do you make note of that? I do make notes
Speaker 2: of that, okay. With for example, with the five of peddacles,
Speaker 2: I had one reversed, one upright, and two reversed. In
Speaker 2: the five of cups, it was even. It was two
Speaker 2: upright and two reversed. The others were all upright. Then
Speaker 2: in terms of major arkonic keys, I had the Empress,
Speaker 2: the Hermit, judgment, strength, the Wheel, the Star, the moon,
Speaker 2: the sun, and the world twice.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of major arconic.
Speaker 1: We're talking what seven weeks, eight weeks? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of major arcana in that period.
Speaker 2: A lot of folks show up. I had some court cards,
Speaker 2: more kings than anybody else along the way.
Speaker 1: I liked that idea because I think I even bought
Speaker 1: you some. I have those little stickers, a little to
Speaker 1: ro stickers.
Speaker 2: I had them right here. I can see them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what I like to do is pull a card
Speaker 1: of the day, and then I like to find the
Speaker 1: corresponding sticker, and I put it in my journal and
Speaker 1: I just write. I use it as a jumping off
Speaker 1: point for writing. I don't I hardly ever reread what
Speaker 1: I write in a journal or look.
Speaker 3: Back like that.
Speaker 1: I think it's really cool that you've been putting it
Speaker 1: down and going back to see patterns and what's there
Speaker 1: and what's not there. That's the step I don't do.
Speaker 1: And I just wanted you to share that with everyone,
Speaker 1: because that's a great skill. It's a great aha moment
Speaker 1: that we can all have if we start doing that.
Speaker 2: Well, I just keep a legal pad because I started again,
Speaker 2: started a new pattern on the day of the new
Speaker 2: moon on Saturday, and so I just write on a
Speaker 2: legal pad the date and what a God. And then
Speaker 2: when I make the decision, it's kind to reassess and
Speaker 2: look again. I'll go back and do the same analysis
Speaker 2: the next time and compare what was I doing during
Speaker 2: this period of time and what will I be doing
Speaker 2: the next time. And I think one of the things
Speaker 2: that I would recommend that folks look at and think
Speaker 2: for themselves might be helpful in this discussion is that
Speaker 2: sometimes we take an isolated incident in our spiritual or
Speaker 2: metaphysical journey and it's big and it feels huge, right,
Speaker 2: And if we look at that in context of the
Speaker 2: bigger picture of ongoing events in our lives, it may
Speaker 2: shift its change and its meaning. Here's an example. I
Speaker 2: got a text from a young friend last week and
Speaker 2: she was so excited she had seen two hawks chasing
Speaker 2: each other in the sky. That had to be big. Well,
Speaker 2: in that typical deb oh, I should have been kinder way,
Speaker 2: I wrote back their mating.
Speaker 3: You were watching cinemax in the sky.
Speaker 2: You are being a voyeur, And she didn't respond. I
Speaker 2: could tell that that was not the answer she was
Speaker 2: looking for.
Speaker 3: But that could still have big meaning.
Speaker 2: Well it could, it could, absolutely, but you take it
Speaker 2: in bigger context, and when you are asking for a
Speaker 2: particular piece of information, then you have to trust that
Speaker 2: it is indeed a signed Me and my hawk with
Speaker 2: the quitting my job, remember that I'm retiring from my job.
Speaker 2: I mean I can still see that hawk turning around
Speaker 2: and looking at me. And my sweet friend Rachel, who
Speaker 2: was standing with me and watched it happens, looked at
Speaker 2: me and said, how many signs do you need? Dev
Speaker 2: so right? She and I talked about that the other day.
Speaker 1: Having those little daily rituals though, of pulling a card
Speaker 1: or journaling, I think is such a needed thing right
Speaker 1: now to help us find our compass our center. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know what I can't stop thinking about. I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed our interview, our talk with Teresa.
Speaker 2: Chung just down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was just like a wealth of information and I
Speaker 1: hope we can have her back.
Speaker 3: But when she talked.
Speaker 1: About what happens to the brain when we read fiction.
Speaker 1: That that really stuck with me because this is something
Speaker 1: my book club and I we were just talking about this.
Speaker 3: At our last book club.
Speaker 1: Most of us are listening to the books each month
Speaker 1: because we're so freaking busy. Oh no, so when we
Speaker 1: are at the gym or driving and running errands or
Speaker 1: cleaning our house, we're killing two birds at one stone.
Speaker 3: We're listening to the book of the month.
Speaker 1: And when Teresa was talking about and I do read
Speaker 1: nonfiction every day, I love not Fit, so I'm reading
Speaker 1: that every day. Told you about the book I'm reading now,
Speaker 1: I'll have to share it in a minute.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I do read nonfiction every day. Fiction I
Speaker 1: tend to listen to. And when she talked about how
Speaker 1: it's not listening and it's not nonfiction, you have to
Speaker 1: read fiction, and how it stimulates parts of your brain
Speaker 1: almost identical to meditation, that really stayed with me because
Speaker 1: haven't you felt that when you're reading a book and
Speaker 1: you get swept up into that other world and you
Speaker 1: might be on your couch, sitting on your lovely patio
Speaker 1: or porch and you know, spring day, but you're in
Speaker 1: a whole different world, just like you are when you meditate.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just can't stop thinking about that,
Speaker 1: and I love that. Just reading fiction, I mean, according
Speaker 1: to Teresa's research, is kind of like meditating, and we
Speaker 1: can use that as a way to connect with spirit,
Speaker 1: or at least with ourselves, maybe not spirit.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm like you, of course, I don't listen to stuff.
Speaker 2: I listen to music, and it takes me, it transports
Speaker 2: me in a different way to places, and I have
Speaker 2: a whole of the thing with music. But I don't
Speaker 2: want to listen to books. I can't. I need to
Speaker 2: see the words. I hear, the words, I hear, the scenery.
Speaker 2: I mean. For example, one of the reasons that I
Speaker 2: so love the Mary Stewart trilogy about Merlin and King
Speaker 2: Arthur is because before I physically stood on that cliff
Speaker 2: at Tintagile, I could hear those crashing waves. I knew
Speaker 2: what Tintagile sounded like because of reading Mary's books. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I would have had the time to
Speaker 2: go there. Reading slows me down.
Speaker 3: That's so true.
Speaker 2: Whereas if I'm listening, if I were, and I won't
Speaker 2: do it, but I can imagine that I was listening
Speaker 2: to something. I just have to keep going along with
Speaker 2: the audio thing. Where there's a book, I can stop
Speaker 2: it go. I could see this cliff, I can hear
Speaker 2: these waves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can let the words wash over you in
Speaker 1: a different way.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Although you would love like BBC Radio drama. You would
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 1: Where it's different actors acting out the parts and there's
Speaker 1: all the audio.
Speaker 3: Like Charles Paris with Bill Nyi is such a great
Speaker 3: radio series.
Speaker 1: You'll have to check it out. You know Bill Nyi
Speaker 1: right from about Time and Love actually right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you know who he's dating?
Speaker 1: It is the best coupling ever.
Speaker 3: Do tell he is dating the newly retired editor of
Speaker 3: Vogue and a Winter.
Speaker 2: Well, now see that is certainly not somebody I know.
Speaker 3: Oh really, Oh, come on the head of Vogue for
Speaker 3: like thirty years with the sunglasses. Yeah, do he for
Speaker 3: wears Prada.
Speaker 2: Don't even get me started about that Prada thing, because
Speaker 2: I didn't know what that was. A tild student told me,
Speaker 2: Oh no, I really did not. When you say the
Speaker 2: Vogue to be the only person I can think of
Speaker 2: course is Jackie Kennedy.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a little bit of an outdated reference dub
Speaker 1: that's all good at say so hip and trendy with
Speaker 1: everything else except pop culture.
Speaker 2: I am so good and trendy not and I am
Speaker 2: so old? Right remember that, students, so proceed.
Speaker 1: Guides, please help me to remind about the words that
Speaker 1: come after the phrase I am.
Speaker 2: I know that, I do know that, And I don't
Speaker 2: mind being old. I just have a lot to do.
Speaker 1: You don't look old, you don't act old.
Speaker 3: You're not old, period the end.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not. Oh. I had the most fun at
Speaker 2: a Rising Appleachic concert last week. God, I had such
Speaker 2: a good time. Those gals are just amazing and it
Speaker 2: was fun and made me think I was an an old, grateful,
Speaker 2: dead shit. Oh it was great with so much fun.
Speaker 2: Beth Vow's daughter should have been with me.
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet she would have loved it.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: I want to tell people about this book are reading,
Speaker 3: and I want to hear about what you're reading. But
Speaker 3: let's take our last break. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Okay, welcome back.
Speaker 1: So do you want to talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: what we are physically reading, not listening to.
Speaker 2: Sure, I am physically rereading two books. I'm in a
Speaker 2: kind of place with that at the moment. I'm rereading
Speaker 2: Shirley Maclean's Out on a Limb, and I'm rereading that
Speaker 2: because I realized that in doing this podcast and in
Speaker 2: teaching the courses that I teach, there are times that
Speaker 2: I take what for me is basic metaphysics one oh
Speaker 2: one for granted, and I realize that I need another
Speaker 2: way to conceptualize that and to explain it. And Shirley's
Speaker 2: book takes me back there to that. Another book I
Speaker 2: am rereading is by Jan de Blue. Jan's last name
Speaker 2: is spelled de e b l I e U. And
Speaker 2: the name of the book is Wind. How the flow
Speaker 2: of air has aped life, myth and the land. I'm
Speaker 2: reading a book about wind.
Speaker 3: Let the party start.
Speaker 2: I adore this book.
Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding, No, I know, I'm sure No. Is
Speaker 3: it like is it ecological? Or is it like earth? Wind?
Speaker 3: Air fire?
Speaker 2: All of the above? All of the above, all of
Speaker 2: the above. One of the things that I'm looking for
Speaker 2: are how wind is viewed and named in cultures around
Speaker 2: the world. For example, for many years, my vehicle what
Speaker 2: I drove every day was a Toyota Chinook camper. Do
Speaker 2: you know where the word chinook comes from. It's a
Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest word, and it describes a certain kind of
Speaker 2: wind at a certain time of year in that culture,
Speaker 2: like a Chiraco for example.
Speaker 1: That reminds me of a book and a movie I
Speaker 1: love a lot with Johnny Dupp. And remember she follows
Speaker 1: the north.
Speaker 2: Wind right exactly exactly, Okay, And how wind around the
Speaker 2: globe has shaped culture. What would have happened had the
Speaker 2: trade winds gone in the opposite direction, right, there would
Speaker 2: have been a very different story for this continent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never really thought about any of those things.
Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of what I've been off on a
Speaker 2: tangent thinking about for the past few days.
Speaker 3: Wind. Okay, I love it, Dub.
Speaker 2: And one more quick thing, and I quite about that,
Speaker 2: the El Nino and the Pacific which controls hurricanes for
Speaker 2: us here in the Atlantic. Oh yeah, it's a great
Speaker 2: thing for us. It's a bad thing for folks over there.
Speaker 1: Oh it is good, Okay, because I just guys, you
Speaker 1: have no idea what Dub puts me through every summer
Speaker 1: with hurricane season.
Speaker 3: Well, a lot.
Speaker 2: It is a lot, Samantha.
Speaker 1: Do you have your hurricane preparedness kit ready? Yes, dep
Speaker 1: I've got the batteries.
Speaker 3: Have you changed? Matter is how old are the batteries?
Speaker 3: Are they new? Did you check them? Do they work?
Speaker 3: How many flashlights?
Speaker 2: Do you have your mahogany of city? Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you have I mothogony of city already?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do those things to you.
Speaker 1: Actually, she's like a part time meteorologist from what May
Speaker 1: to September.
Speaker 2: I tell you why, there's a part of me that
Speaker 2: would love to have majored in meteorology. A friend of
Speaker 2: mine's mother was the first woman to graduate with a
Speaker 2: degree in meteorology from Cornell Wow, you should have been
Speaker 2: a fly on the wall with my conversations with her.
Speaker 1: Oh, like, cause I've just tried to think, like when
Speaker 1: people would ask me, oh, what are you working on,
Speaker 1: and I'd say, oh, I'm researching a book about dreams.
Speaker 1: Great conversation starter, right, everyone wants to talk about dreams.
Speaker 1: Magine sitting across the table from this lovely lady, I'm
Speaker 1: working on a.
Speaker 3: Book about wind.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating.
Speaker 1: It does sound fascinating. I'm just being sassy for no reason,
Speaker 1: so tell me about that. So I'm very excited about
Speaker 1: this book i'm reading. I'm slowly making my way through.
Speaker 1: It's by Edward Wilson Lee. It's called The Grammar of
Speaker 1: Angels and the subtitle is the life of Renaissance prodigy
Speaker 1: and his search for a philosophy of everything. So here
Speaker 1: in the States I could not find this book. I
Speaker 1: had to order it from England. Just letting everyone know
Speaker 1: might be a little bit harder if you're in the
Speaker 1: US to find it, which is sad because it's a
Speaker 1: really cool book. So I'll just read you what it says.
Speaker 1: Is there a language so powerful that the speaker can
Speaker 1: control the listener, taking over their thoughts and even their will.
Speaker 1: Could man transcend his mortal limitations and join the ranks
Speaker 1: of the angels? Renaissance prodigy, polymath and uncontested marvel of
Speaker 1: an age of true wonders, Giovanni Pico della Mirandola believed
Speaker 1: there was. This is the story of Pico's short but
Speaker 1: brilliant life and his search for philosophy that would settle
Speaker 1: the most important questions of human experience. It's a thrilling
Speaker 1: account of intellectual daring, the willingness to think the unthinkable
Speaker 1: and peer over the edge of the abyss in search
Speaker 1: of answers.
Speaker 3: WHOA, Oh, I.
Speaker 1: Know, it's really cool. It's very heavy, I do feel
Speaker 1: like I'm back.
Speaker 3: In school, but I do like that.
Speaker 2: Speaking of ordering books from England, my sweet friend Clay
Speaker 2: Are the co author of my last book. I asked
Speaker 2: her to send me because I couldn't find it in
Speaker 2: the States, the Unfortune's book, The Magical Battle for Britain
Speaker 2: that she wrote during World War Two, and she did.
Speaker 2: She sent it to me, So I've just finished that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely want to borrow that from you, sure,
Speaker 3: because it's fascinating to me how many books you just
Speaker 3: can't find anymore.
Speaker 2: Oh you just came.
Speaker 3: Oh, like Deb shared before we were recording that the
Speaker 3: are we producing Ted Andrews.
Speaker 2: Books lleue Ellen. It's working with them on that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank covers.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about that because there's some of his
Speaker 1: old books you can't find. I mean you can on
Speaker 1: like a books or thrift books or maybe archive dot org.
Speaker 1: But it's getting harder. So that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I ordered a copy of Animals Speak for a friend's
Speaker 2: birthday in April, and ordered it from bookshop dot org,
Speaker 2: which supports independent bookstores.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: So do you want to talk about before we wrap up?
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about some shows we want
Speaker 1: to do? Maybe hear back from listeners if they like it.
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, I would like to hear it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to do more of the Crystal and
Speaker 1: the toureaux of the week.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, if that is helpful to folks, we can certainly
Speaker 2: do that. I don't see why not. We've also been
Speaker 2: asked to do material on a Sainte and on a Goddess.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would like to do that too.
Speaker 2: See here's my thing.
Speaker 1: If we do a crystal the month, a tourow of
Speaker 1: the month, a Saint of the month, a Goddess of
Speaker 1: the month.
Speaker 3: What that's you know, that's too much. Maybe we should
Speaker 3: just do a Saint of the month and the Goddess
Speaker 3: of the month for the summer and see how that goes.
Speaker 2: Try something new. Listen to the old episodes with Tourou
Speaker 2: and Crystal stuff. If they want to well with you,
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to do a show on these weird
Speaker 1: billionaire bunkers. I don't know if you want to do
Speaker 1: that show, because I know how that stuff makes you nervous.
Speaker 1: I heard that underneath what's it called the ballroom that's
Speaker 1: being built in DC, the reason why it's costing so
Speaker 1: much is because there's a bunker underneath there.
Speaker 2: There's a whole thing underneath. I mean it's more than
Speaker 2: a bunker. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a whole big complex
Speaker 2: of safety, scurity, safety. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I just think it'd be cool to la
Speaker 1: de a deep dive and look at why are these
Speaker 1: billionaires and leaders all over the world, not just in
Speaker 1: America building these bunkers.
Speaker 3: What do they know?
Speaker 2: But we've been here before, Samantha, Yeah, at beginning of
Speaker 2: the atomic age, even people built these things in their backyard,
Speaker 2: these hidden things in.
Speaker 1: The back but that at least you knew why you
Speaker 1: were building that. I mean, there was a tangible, real
Speaker 1: threat we all knew about and could name.
Speaker 3: This one. We don't know.
Speaker 1: There's talk that there's some meteor hitting us in what
Speaker 1: three years, but we don't know what it is. And
Speaker 1: so that's why I kind of want to dive into it.
Speaker 1: But I know you don't like that stuff, so I
Speaker 1: just wanted to run it past you.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, but you write about it, and
Speaker 2: I'll see if I'm willing to do it with you.
Speaker 2: Dun It scares me.
Speaker 3: I know, No, it does scare me too. But that's
Speaker 3: why I think we need to look at it. I know, dear,
Speaker 3: I know, what about you? What do you want to
Speaker 3: talk about?
Speaker 2: You know? And this is entirely further where you're going here.
Speaker 2: But there's been a lot of I've got a lot
Speaker 2: of emails and a lot of questions recently about trees
Speaker 2: and mushrooms and about that web of connectedness that's both real,
Speaker 2: physical and metaphorical, and what do we do with that?
Speaker 1: Remember that book A listener recommended years and years ago,
Speaker 1: The Secret Life of trees. Yeah, there's some documentary on
Speaker 1: the mushrooms, the fungai.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a whole big thing that I'm just
Speaker 2: I fell in love with that documentary from the diver
Speaker 2: who became friends with the octopus and when that octopus
Speaker 2: patted him on the face.
Speaker 3: My octopus teacher.
Speaker 2: Yes, I burst into tears and I couldn't stop crying.
Speaker 2: I cried thinking about it. Well, Sally Field and some
Speaker 2: other folks got a new thing about the octopus and.
Speaker 3: A of a different octopus. It's based on the prediction story.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I love that notion of how do we
Speaker 2: communicate with across quote species? Right. I was talking to
Speaker 2: a friend of my oldest friend, been for instance, of
Speaker 2: third grade, and we were talking about our cats last night,
Speaker 2: and he was telling me about some things that were
Speaker 2: going on with his current cat, and I was explaining
Speaker 2: to him how Merlin saw the world very differently than that.
Speaker 2: You know, Merlin had this okay, let's hang out and
Speaker 2: see what happens attitude, very different than his very skittish cat.
Speaker 2: What's that about? And how do we communicate with our folks?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how you and Lily were, right? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's not just the folks we live with, or
Speaker 2: how do we look at folks all around us that
Speaker 2: we may not even spend much time thinking about.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think we should do it. Put the notes together.
Speaker 1: When you're done with your wind book, you can read
Speaker 1: your tree books.
Speaker 2: Well, the wind research is for the book I'm currently writing,
Speaker 2: and there's more to it. And that's just one step
Speaker 2: of the process.
Speaker 1: I told you I read that fascinating study I'd like
Speaker 1: to look into and do a show on how scientists
Speaker 1: were discovering there are places on Earth where people heal
Speaker 1: two to four times faster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just think that's so interesting.
Speaker 1: Those doorway places in the world as well, where there's
Speaker 1: supposed to be portal areas and healing does happen around there.
Speaker 1: But in the study I was reading, it wasn't just
Speaker 1: those doorway places or those thin places as they call it.
Speaker 1: It was anywhere there are bee hives. It was places
Speaker 1: where there were ancient monasteries. So it wasn't just geographical.
Speaker 2: Locations, but's some kind of residual energy.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, this is where you're going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which takes me to ten thousand doors of January.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, It's still one of.
Speaker 2: My very favorite books ever. I just love that book
Speaker 2: because the notion of thresholds is just and where the
Speaker 2: word itself comes from. I mean, we could talk about
Speaker 2: thresholds in many different ways, couldn't we went to the
Speaker 2: whole episode in addition to the healing episode. We could
Speaker 2: do a talk about doorways and thresholds and both physical
Speaker 2: and metaphorical along the way. That would be a fun talk.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean you and I have both stood in amazing
Speaker 2: doorways in our travels.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would like to get back to our
Speaker 1: book club or remember we would pick a book in
Speaker 1: the month. I don't think you really liked that, but
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun.
Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to it.
Speaker 1: The problem is that you and I pick such different
Speaker 1: ones we do, and we didn't want to read each
Speaker 1: other's necessarily. So maybe we could do it one month.
Speaker 1: You just share a book you're reading and I just
Speaker 1: go uh huh oh wow and ask you questions.
Speaker 3: On the next month, I do the same.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, And the other issue that I have with
Speaker 2: doing this is that you know me. I want to
Speaker 2: go back to one on want I want to look
Speaker 2: y'all I mean, it's great that you're reading a book
Speaker 2: that got published last week. Please read mine Is and Memphis.
Speaker 2: Well there you go, But have you read something from
Speaker 2: nineteen six? I mean have you I don't know, have
Speaker 2: you read Ruth Montgomery's biography of Jene Dixon.
Speaker 1: That's something I did want to do. I would like
Speaker 1: to do shows where we just do little snippets of
Speaker 1: famous intuitives who have gone before us, instead of the big.
Speaker 3: Deep dives we've done.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun to do a show or
Speaker 1: two and just I'll cover four, you cover four like
Speaker 1: Meve's Patilla, we need to talk about her and the
Speaker 1: work she contributed to mediumship and psychic abilities before she
Speaker 1: left the world, or Janet Nohavak.
Speaker 3: To Laura's canon, Right, would you like to do that?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, that'd be fun. Okay, absolutely would be fun.
Speaker 2: And so really we all stuck with us this far
Speaker 2: and our time together in this episode is you're really
Speaker 2: listening to what Samantha and I do A couple of
Speaker 2: times a year. We always do right before New Year's.
Speaker 3: And again we pick a card.
Speaker 2: We do we do are? We do allreading? And we
Speaker 2: had this kind of brainstorming ideas, and always the ultimate
Speaker 2: questions are what are we doing to be of service
Speaker 2: to you? What are we choosing to speak about that
Speaker 2: is in some way helpful to you? And then what
Speaker 2: are we doing to really look at the bigger picture
Speaker 2: of metaphysics and the psychic world and what our contributions
Speaker 2: to it might be.
Speaker 3: That's always our hope.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we got such great feedback from the
Speaker 1: Banned Bible, like the books kicked out of the Bible show.
Speaker 2: And the Delphi. We've gotten some nice emails show.
Speaker 1: Oh, we got a really cool email about a woman
Speaker 1: who spent some time visiting Delphi. She told us how
Speaker 1: to pronounce it in a very nice way, and she
Speaker 1: gave us some really cool history.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to save it for our upcoming Q
Speaker 3: and A.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, So we appreciate hearing from you all and
Speaker 2: Samantha and I way those kind of shows because one thing,
Speaker 2: those shows take a ton of research and a ton
Speaker 2: of time. They're not something we just pop off the
Speaker 2: top of our head. We really do take deep dives
Speaker 2: into the research for them. So there's a lot of
Speaker 2: work that goes into those which is fine. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're happy to do it, but we also want to
Speaker 2: know is this resonating with you? Is this something you
Speaker 2: really want? And we're getting some nice feedback that says
Speaker 2: in died you do, so thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Well I've enjoyed talking to you.
Speaker 2: Well, you too, it was really lovely to actually spend
Speaker 2: this hour. If you're doing this.
Speaker 3: Well we've been talking for over two hours.
Speaker 2: My golly, we sure have. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of glad our guests didn't show up. Well,
Speaker 3: not that he didn't show up, he could.
Speaker 1: Maybe I sent him the wrong time, Like I said,
Speaker 1: time zones not my friend, what.
Speaker 2: You should be my world. Working with one co author
Speaker 2: five hours ahead and one four hours behind, I'd spend
Speaker 2: my whole day count on my fingers.
Speaker 1: Youll that's what you gotta get WhatsApp and just text him.
Speaker 2: It's too big.
Speaker 3: It isn't it too big? It's one app.
Speaker 2: I'll show you, okay, Dear, thank you. Here we go,
Speaker 2: y'all drag me into the modern world, kicking and screaming.
Speaker 2: Here we got in the meantime. Thank you, Samantha, dear.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 1: It was so fun, And thank you everyone for listening.
Speaker 1: We hope you have a beautiful, magical, happy week filled
Speaker 1: with great conversations. Remember, as always, to be the light
Speaker 1: for yourself and others.
Speaker 2: Take care everybody.
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