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let's dive in to today's episode, like to welcome to

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the show, Galen, How you doing.

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Speaker 2: Gil Ken, how are you? Thank you so much for

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excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming down to the Next

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Level Soul Studios. I really appreciate it. I'm you know,

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we met through a mutual friend, Susie Miller, who absolutely

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adore yes and she her episode was amazing on the show,

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and she she recommended I take a look at you

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and what you're doing, and we spoke and I was

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just opening up Next Level Soul TV. I was in

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the preparary motions of building up that streaming platform. And

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then you're like, oh, I have a documentary and I'm like,

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let me look at it. I watched the documentary. I'm like,

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oh my god, this would be an amazing addition to

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the platform. Would you be interested? She's like absolutely, And

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it was just worked very synergetically because you had no

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idea I was building that at the time. I am

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because no one knows about it. And you know, as

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of this recording, they'll know about it. But before no

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one really knew that I was building out this entire

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like spiritual healing, you know, light filled platform, and your

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film was just a perfect thing. It's called It's Time.

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So when I went down the rabbit hole that I

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was like, oh, I have to have her on and

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we now you're here, so we're going to talk all

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about what you're doing and your journey. So my first

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question to you is you had some health issues early

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on in your life, and you've tried everything and you're

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trying to figure things out. So can you talk to

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everybody a little bit about what was happening to you

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and then what kind of turn what turned the dial

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for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Well I started out in engineering at a

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young age, and then I moved on to telecom, and

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then I moved into Hollywood. And after those three careers,

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in what twenty five years, I was finding I had

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migraine headaches, I had insomnia, I had thyroid issues, I

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had liver issues. My hair was falling out, if you

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can believe that, and I had cystic acne. Just and

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I'm thinking I'm thirty seven years old. You know that

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happens when you get older.

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Speaker 1: Right well, by the way, and I could attest anyone

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who does work in Hollywood. These are the symptoms.

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Speaker 2: So I almost had a nervous breakdown, I mean stress.

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Hence and seven years of that, you know, raising the

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money and doing it. I mean, I feel like Hollywood

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is so many different businesses. From the time that you

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write the business plan, you raise the money, you do

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pre production, post production, editing, marketing, film festivals. There's all

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these different businesses you have to learn. And so at

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the end of that, I was I was spent, and

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I knew I was really sick. But again here's me, Oh,

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your im thirty and I'm getting older. I'm fifty four now.

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I am so happy to be in fifty four. I

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am so happy with how I feel. I love my life.

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It's amazing. But at that time, I was like, if

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I don't make some changes, I'm not going to make it.

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But I thought I was really good in corporate America

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and even Hollywood. It's like project management, producer, project manager,

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and that's what I was good at. And so I

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was always told the biggest sin of all is not

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using your god given gift. And my god given gift

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was operations and project management. I was really really good

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at it. So I started to seek out different alternative

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since I was in my twenties because I always had

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YaST infections. Okay, Now, nobody told me you get a

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East affection if you drink a mountain dew and eat

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a Snickers bar and have pasta for lunch and pasta

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for dinner every day. Nobody told me.

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Speaker 1: That with redsticks.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure godsticks allove garden, right, So I said, okay.

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Now in my twenties, I was getting a East infection

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every month, and I'm sure there's women out there that'll

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relate to this. It was just yeast and candida just

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building up every month. And so then I realized, oh,

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I can cut out the pasta, cut out the sugar,

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and the East infections go away. Wow. Great. And then

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I was watching my grandma. She had diabetes, and my

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mom said, oh, diabetes runs in our family. I was okay, Well,

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grandma worked at the bakery, eight danishes off the line

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every day. That's why she has diabetes. And you know,

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my mom for after breakfast, after lunch, after dinner, we

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would have dessert. You know, we were limited to dessert,

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but it was sugar, sugar, sugar. So I realized that

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that's had to change. So at an early age in

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my twenties, I started look at health and I started

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to realize hydration is important and eating well is important.

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So when I came up, you know, into my thirties,

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and I'm sick, and I say, okay, what can I do?

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I tried western medicine. I haven't worked for a doctor's

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office when I was seventeen, and my migraines started at

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seventeen years old. And when that happened, my mom had

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no idea what was happening. And I just remember being

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in bed and I couldn't get into the light, I

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couldn't talk. Scared her half to death. So when I

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asked the doctor, what can we do for migraines? Oh, no,

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one knows why people get migraines, So there's nothing we

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can do that put me on a drug. And I

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didn't want that. I knew that. I mean, even at

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a young age, I knew there was more than just

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drugging it up taking pills surgeries, and so at thirty seven,

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I said, what else can I do? So I was

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at a sea level conference and there was a man

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that gets on stage and he says sound in light therapy,

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and he has this light box and it was a

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rectangular box. Okay, this is a little bit weird. My

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engineering mind is thinking, okay, what is this thing? And

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he shows a presentation a little boy that when you

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see his face there's no soul behind the eyes. And

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he didn't have hair, he didn't have teeth. And this

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woman was saying, you know, no one gets to say

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that my kid is never going to have hair, never

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gonna have teeth, never gonna talk. And so mother's love

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is so powerful and you can't you know, doctors can't

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put an expiration date on these kids because the mother's

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not going to let that happen. So she found this

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light box. So I'm watching the presentation. I'm looking at

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this little boy and as he does sessions the little boy,

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you see a soul come into the eyes. Wait a minute,

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what is this? And so I bully my way up

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to the stage. After the presentation, the little boy does

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come on stage with arm crutches and he's hair and

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he has teeth and he's walking and I'm thinking, oh

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my gosh, this crazy light box did this and it

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was just sound in light therapy my way up to

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the stage and I say too, and I said, can

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this help with migraine headaches? I just saw this kid, right,

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but that's what plagued me. And he says, the body

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doesn't know disease by name, and I'm like, what an idiot,

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it's not an answer. I'm from corporate America. Give me

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a yes or a no. Well, now, knowing what I

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know about, you can't make claims. And that was a

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perfect answer. The body doesn't know disease by name. Something's imbalanced,

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there's something going on. So I flew to a location

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that he had and within like two sessions, the severe

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cardiovascular stress was gone. And I started to get a

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migraine while I was there. Come on, you know, you

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never know when you're going to get one, and it

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went away really quickly. Weird, Okay, there's something to this.

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And when I got home after four sessions, I got

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home and I rode my bicycle up a hill, which

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I had asked since I was four, and I got

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to the top of the hill, and I can Breathe

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couldn't have been that silly light box, of course, because

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my engineering mind, there's no way. And then I went

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to the eye doctor and he said, why are you

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wearing glasses? Your eyesight's twenty twenty. I said, I've been

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wearing glasses since I was nineteen. He said, well, you

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don't need glasses. Okay, did this sound in light therapy?

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Speaker 1: Do this?

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Speaker 2: We're vibrational beings of light and sound from source from God.

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Why aren't we healing with sound in light? That's when

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I just dove into everything. I dove into sound in

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light therapy. I read over two hundred books, and eventually

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everything went away. The systic acne went away, the hair

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grew back in, got off, my thyroid, meds, my liver, heeled,

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my migraines. I haven't had one for knock on wood

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fifteen years. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So how is that?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: I have to ask because I always like to play

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Devil's advocate here, how in hell is this happening?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What is the technology? What is the science behind this?

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Because it's not just woo woo stuff like you know,

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like hey, here's a crystal, and not that there's anything

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wrong with crystals. But you know what I mean, Like

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if like you know, you're just throwing, like throwing an

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herb on top of you and or sage is smoking

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and everything's going to work out, that doesn't seem to

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make a whole lot of logical sense. Now, obviously your

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your results are speak for themselves, but what was the technology?

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: So it's a great question. That's what I dove into.

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And I thought, I'm lying in this light box with

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on a four inch phone pad and it's got these

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like automotive speakers underneath, and you're looking up at a

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clearly painted rainbow colored light bulb. How can this even work?

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if we're vibrational beings of light and set you know,

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from source, then sound and light can heal us. The

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sunlight can heal us. We know that, And so I

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started looking at the music, the type of music, because

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a center in twenty ten in Denver and having amazing results,

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and just asking the people like, what are you doing?

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would try to lie in this silly light box right

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and see what happened. And so when I started studying

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the waveforms of instruments, this is where I think it

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came in. I looked at the selfagio suite and the

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different frequencies, and when I looked at the wave forms

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of instruments, the flute has a really simple waveform and

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it's affecting the liver. And so many people I'd put

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them in the box on flute music and they would

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tell me, oh, I felt some uncomfortableness in my right

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side here, that's where your liver is. And then I

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started to look at the chakras in the colors. So

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what I put together is drumming can help that waveform

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can help bring the root chakra back into balance, as

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well as red light. And so started building a protocol

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around the waveforms of instruments colors of light. And when

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of an Oregon box. Nikola Tesla and I started to

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bring this all together. When you bring together the spiritual

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forces of sound and the spiritual forces of light, as

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Edgar says, it's a great modality for the future. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very very interesting. So okay, so let's dive in

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a little bit. I mean, let's take them one at

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a time. So sound therapy. Let's go through sound therapy first.

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I understand the idea of vibration or frequency that we

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all are. We all are at a frequency scientifically that's determined.

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Planets ring at a certain frequency. The universe has a

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certain frequency to it. How does this sound bring things

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back into can you explain if there is a science

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behind what is happening to the body.

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Speaker 2: Well, do you know, David Hawkins, power verses forced. So

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if you look at people live in fear and they're

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at a very low vibration, And this is where I

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think I can answer the question that maybe it will

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make sense. Shame, guilt, fear, those kind of emotions are

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a low vibration. Love is the highest vibration. So when

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you can elevate to a place of love, I don't

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believe disease lives there. I believe that disease lives in

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fear and shame and guilt. And even when I went

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to a conference called Music as Medicine, we went to Barcelona,

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and I raised my hand and I asked, you know,

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are they using the waveforms of instruments? Are they using

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the frequencies? And these were all a lot of doctors,

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and the doctors that were on the stage were saying, oh, no,

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we're letting people listen to their favorite music, if it's

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you know, rap music or whatever. I'm thinking, I don't

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think it works that way. I think that the musician

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also has to have a certain vibration for the music

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to be of healing nature. And so I think when

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we raise our vibration, that's when we come into balance,

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we come into harmony, we come into love, we come

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into our highest self in kindness, ingratitude. And so I

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kind of explained to people when they're at that lower vibration,

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living in fear or anger or guilt, they're susceptible to

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disease because disease is attracted to that so if I

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have to explain different frequencies. There's also the selfaggio sweet

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five twenty eight herds. They say it's a frequency of

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love or it heals the DNA. Everybody has a guess.

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I don't think there is one size fits all. And

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so what if you're vibrating at six hundred herts or

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eight hundred herts. Now, when David Hawkins wrote his book,

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I think eleven hundred herts or maybe it was a

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thousand hurts was the Christ consciousness the Christ vibration. But

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when he passed away he even said it's higher. Now

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it's you know, twelve hundred, it's going up. So what

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I talk to people about is the higher the vibration,

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then it seems like the healthier that you are.

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Speaker 2: People use the pendulum in muscle checking, but you have

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to be really careful with muscle checking. I mean, if

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I'm going to muscle check do I need chocolate, I'm

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going to probably get a yes. I'm going to make

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it a yes, right, yes, yes, for sure, idea, I

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definitely need chocolate. But you know, people will will do

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muscle checking and they have to be really careful. I've

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had so many doctors and physicians do muscle checking and say, oh,

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this modality isn't right for you, but they don't know

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anything about it.

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Speaker 1: Will you say, is it muscle checking different than muscle testing?

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Speaker 2: I think it's the same.

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Speaker 1: Okayeah.

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Speaker 2: So some people do the test, some people do the arms,

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some people do this, some people do you know this,

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have to be really careful because emotions can get in

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the way. And I do think our consciousness comes into play.

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I had a doctor and he said, oh, no, one's

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testing to do you know, the sound and light therapy.

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Once I educated him on what sound and light therapy was,

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that everybody was testing to need it, so it's it

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came into his consciousness. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, So there's when you were talking, something just

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popped into my head. Was that documentary from the Japanese

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researcher with sound on the particles of water? Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Emoto where he was able to project sound but also

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just words, just writing the word love on a bottle

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of water and writing the word hate on a bottle

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of water, letting it sit overnight, and then the next

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morning putting them both underneath a microscope, and literally there'd

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be something different, Like one was beautiful, the other one

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was like edgy and off and and very destraorted, which

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is a fascinating idea. So and then when you yell

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at a plant or play it, you know, you know,

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speed metal versus versus you know, something classical, you there's

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literal differences in the way they grow. So sound has been,

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it's it's always been something very powerful to us. But

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it's I think more and more coming into play that

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people are starting to recognize on a more mainstream level

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that there's something here. It's not just woo woo and

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chakras and crystals and you know and pachuli. That's from

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the seventies, right, But that's where a lot of this

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stuff originated. From the sixties of the hippie movement is

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where it really came up. Not many people were in

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the fifties talking about this. Edgar was one of the

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few in the forties, But the sixties is where a

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lot of this came up, and a lot of it

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was you know, washed away with the same they threw

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the baby out with the bathwater with a lot of

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these ideas, but now over the decades, people are starting

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to come around to not only just like the idea

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of it, but the science behind it. So like in

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the documentary and It's Time, one of your guests, one

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of your speakers was showing an example of what a

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certain vibration on the speaker. Yeah, and they threw sand

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on it, and every I think frequency see automatically had

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its own geometric, sacred geometry that just formed automatically. Yep,

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that's insane. How does that? Can you explain that?

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Speaker 2: I can't explain that, but I can. We can talk

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around the Emoto thing and we'll kind of go to

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the tones and different things too. So with Emoto's work,

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you're right, and it's beautiful, perfect snowflakes when you're talking

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about love and gratitude, But then when you talk about

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hate and anger and fear, then the crystals are all gnarly.

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They're ugly. Think about our body mostly water. Think about

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when we say, oh, I'm so stupid. Oh that's that

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was dumb that you did that. Think about what we're

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doing to the cells in our body. So when I

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watched the movie, what the Bleep when she was writing

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The Little Hearts, I did that for a while. I'm like,

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I'm just gonna take my little eyeliner pencil and make

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little hearts all over my body because I want to

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love myself. And so many people don't love themselves, and

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so think about their gnarly cells and think about them

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attracting other people that don't love themselves, and so that

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vibration that they're attracting.

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Speaker 3: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: And so there's another part too of the cymatics. You

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wanted to talk about the cymatics, Yes, it creates mendala forms.

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So I've talked to Jon Stewart Reed, he's kind of

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the modern day cymatics expert, and we've talked about music

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and the different frequencies, and it doesn't creates this beautiful

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mandala effect different frequencies, and so think about what those

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frequencies are doing to our bodies. And that's really where

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I love talking about. And then what if you've tied

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a lot of astrologies on the show Astrologers and they

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talk about when you were born. What if when you

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were born you were missing a tone from your voice

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and that created an illness or disease that's common. So

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a lot of people say, oh, Scorpio, I'm scorpio. Scorpios

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have a lot of colon issues. Well, maybe that's because

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when you dropped on the planet, there was a tone

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missing from your voice. So there's now voice analysis people

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that do you record your voice and they'll tell you you're

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missing the tone of G sharp, or you're missing the

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tone of F sharp or F or c and it

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correlates really well to what's going on with their body.

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I used to do this in my center and I

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had a lady come in and I listened to her voice,

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and it's it's something you have to do. It's not

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like you just say ten nine eight seven, six, you

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know whatever. You want to talk to them about their childhood.

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six feet away from them. There's no you know, the

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six feet that we had to social didsty I don't

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think there was an accident about that. How our auras

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connect with each other. So you're about six feet away

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from them and you talk to them about their childhood,

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you talk to them about their relationship with their parents

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and say they have a pain in their body, they

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have a hit pain. You let them give that pain

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an audible voice, and they might just be like, oh,

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I know, it's terrible. But then at the end of

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that session you ask them what would the audible voice

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be if you didn't have to deal with that pain,

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and maybe they'd be That's when the missing tone comes in.

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So think about how powerful our bodies are and our

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minds that even though they still have that pain, when

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they just gave that voice, that they didn't have that

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pain anymore and that missing tone shows up. How incredible

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is this? What is going on that?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: I had clients. They used to come in and my

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one client worked on stained glass windows and a lead

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a lot of heavy metals. When she came in, she

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had a raspy voice because she had so many metals

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in her body, and sound in light therapy can detox

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heavy metals as well as dark leafy greens and other things,

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and so she would leave with a different voice.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you detox this that kind of is a trauma.

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Heavy metals is a trauma. Sure, So that trauma created

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her to have a missing tone, which made her voice raspy.

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When she released those metals, her voice changed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I said, and I might be

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making making this up or I'm misunderstanding it, but there

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was something I saw somewhere in the social media world

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or on YouTube or something that they were they were

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finding out that they can actually target cancer cells with

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sound at the frequency of the I don't know if

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it's the frequency of the cancer cellers something where. In

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other words, it's non evasive and it could just go

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in and basically eradicates that that cancer is cell while

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not touching anything else. Again, I'm not making any claims

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or anything like that. It's just something I heard. Have

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you heard of anything something similar? What is that?

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Speaker 2: So one hundred and eleven hurts, some people were saying,

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But if you think about it, everybody's frequency is different

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in the morning, and it's different in the evening, and

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it's different in different seasons, right, So just like the

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Shulmann frequency. So and then Royal Raife had it. He

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had it down, but he used a universal microscope and

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he's stained the cells for each individual client patient, so

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he could see where he where they were, meet them

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where they are. But a lot of people are using

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the rife frequencies now that he used in the forties

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or fifties. There isn't the same frequency anymore. It's different,

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so it's going to be different for every body. There

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is no one size fits all. We're all wired differently.

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that universal microscope and staining the cells, we could really

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dial in to what the frequency of each person's let's say,

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dis cancer or any disease and eradicate it with an

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exact opposite frequency to neutralize it from the cell.

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Speaker 1: It's all in the scientific stace.

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Speaker 2: I think it can work, but it's not going to

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be the same for everybody.

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Speaker 1: So has this been kind of tested in the scientific space,

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like what kind of you know, scientific studies. Has there

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been peer reviews or anything like that that's even been

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or even rudimentary research, because I know how the medical

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establishment is, so is there any sort of medical research

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about this stuff?

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Speaker 2: So the people who are doing sound in light don't

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have millions of dollars or billions of dollars to do

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these studies. So I have tried, you know, but I

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don't think that studying twenty people between the ages of

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sixteen and ninety is a really controlled study. So I've

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had doctors call me, well, did you you know, have

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you done a controlled study? I go for me, a

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controlled study is that it's the they're the same sex,

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they're the same age, they're the same they have the

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same mother and father, they had the same job, they

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lived in the same city, they had the same diet.

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That would be a controlled study. When they say they

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do a controlled study and they're ranged from you know,

474
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,079
eighteen to ninety years old, males and females, sick and

475
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,920
not sick. Yeah, So for me, that doesn't tell me.

476
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,799
You know, I'm an engineer, and that doesn't tell me anything.

477
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,599
I need to see consistency. So I don't think there's

478
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:54,119
a lot out there. People have made, you know, theories,

479
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,440
but there's I don't think there's enough money to fund

480
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,519
these kinds of studies.

481
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: So the sound So as far as sound therapy is concerned,

482
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:08,119
how long has that been? Around years? Okay, so within

483
00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:11,480
the last you know it was. Is there anything in

484
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,440
ancient history talking about sound therapy? Yeah? What cultures?

485
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: The ancient Egyptians, the Sumerians, the Aborigines, the Native Americans,

486
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:28,079
the Greeks, all of them have something and that's it.

487
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

488
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even if it was think about the digeridoo. Yeah,

489
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:37,640
And there is research out there that the digerido can

490
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,440
help to heal bones, and there's research out there about flutes,

491
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,319
and there's even stuff in the Bible about musicians using

492
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,799
instruments to get rid of anger for certain characters in

493
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,920
the Bible. So it's out there, it's been out there,

494
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,559
But I don't think that there's a lot of money

495
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,359
to be made by sitting in the sun or listening

496
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,920
to music or grounding or grounding.

497
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:08,519
Speaker 1: Right or something. Sound baths are all the rage, now,

498
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,680
what is is that just another kind of version of

499
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,039
this where you're hitting you know, you know, each of

500
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:17,400
those bulls have a certain frequency, and then if you

501
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,480
get the gong, each gong is at a certain frequency

502
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:23,240
and so on. Is that kind of like a because

503
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,400
I've had sound baths done they're amazing, Yeah, and they

504
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,519
just kind of like it's like this, it's literally what

505
00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:31,920
it's all a sound bath. So you're being constantly bombarded

506
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,160
with this sound at multiple frequencies. It's not like a

507
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,920
healing scenario per se, like very surgical like with this

508
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,240
frequency to hit that, but it's an overall like you're

509
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,440
hitting with all these kinds of frequencies, and after I

510
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,680
was done with many of them, I just feel like

511
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,279
I feel good. I don't know what the hell's going on,

512
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:52,640
but I feel good about it. Can you talk a

513
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,319
little bit about that.

514
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,319
Speaker 2: So there's group healing and then there's individual healing, and

515
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:01,480
so I love sound baths into the gong bass and

516
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,319
you know, crystal bowls and the little chimes, and I

517
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,720
just go to another place. What happens with me is

518
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,240
an mpath and I'm sure lots of your audience are

519
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:17,200
n paths. I end up picking things up that people released, Yeah,

520
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,160
and it's just a thing. So I believe that there's

521
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,440
healers out there that are brilliant and they know how

522
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,680
to clear the room before and after. But there's healers

523
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,119
out there that aren't. So people are walking out the

524
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:31,400
door with other people's baggage. They got the wrong bag

525
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,759
at the baggage claim, you know, and they're carrying someone

526
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,519
else's baggage out, So we want to be really careful

527
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,000
about that. I like I like individual healing because I

528
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,079
think when we heal ourselves, then we heal the planet,

529
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,960
you know, individually, so, but I love these things. I

530
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,920
think they're the sound bass. There was an article not

531
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,359
too long ago it says Jim Carrey was seen leaving

532
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,319
a sound bath, you know. So it is catching on,

533
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,799
it is becoming mainstream. It is the they say it's

534
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,240
the medicine of the future, but the future is now.

535
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

536
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:13,400
and now back to the show.

537
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are talking about sound more than I've ever

538
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,519
had before. I've had some guests on who talk about

539
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,519
sound healing, sound frequency and what the magic of it is.

540
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,359
But it is a very powerful you can viscerally feel it.

541
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,119
I mean you can't. It's kind of like when you

542
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,000
go to an opera or you go to a classical,

543
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,119
you know, an orchestra or a symphony or something along

544
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,680
those lines. The energy that you feel coming from you know,

545
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,440
people who understand, like the performers who are at the

546
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,839
top of their level, know how to play those instruments

547
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:50,880
so perfectly. You feel this wave. I mean, people are

548
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,680
brought to tears, people are brought to the emotions because

549
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,880
the vibrations, the frequencies of these sounds are so powerful.

550
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,920
So sound is no joke, right, Oh.

551
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: My gosh, I love it. I'm obsessed with it now,

552
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,319
and you know, looking at the different instruments, looking at

553
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:13,920
the different historical societies that have used it. I went

554
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,759
to Egypt and I felt like I brought back a

555
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:21,400
lot of the Egyptian energy into you know, my technology.

556
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,000
And then I went to Greece. I told my boyfriend,

557
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,319
I said, we need to go to Greece because I

558
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,720
have to go to the e Iscle bios healing area

559
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,440
and pull some energy from there. And people will come

560
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,440
in and say, oh my gosh, there's Egyptian energy in here,

561
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,880
there's Greek energy in here. Everything's energy and it's just

562
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,839
such a beautiful thing.

563
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,519
Speaker 1: So with everything that people know nowadays about healing, the

564
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,480
term healing is very interesting because when you go to

565
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,920
you know, you have a headache and you take an aspirin,

566
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,160
you healed, quote unquote, what is your definition of true healing?

567
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: True healing to me is you'd heal at the root. Okay,

568
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,359
so some people are going to take a mask to

569
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,640
put a band aid on it. And that's when I

570
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,240
knew that a drug was going to do for my migraines.

571
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:11,599
It's just going to put a band aid on it.

572
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,279
So what is the root cause of this? And there's

573
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,559
books Louise Hay and Michael Lincoln messages from the body,

574
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,000
like why are you having this? What is the root

575
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,519
cause of it? And so when I looked at migraines,

576
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:28,319
it could have been issues with liver, kidneys, but more

577
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,400
importantly dysautonomia, which is an imbalance in the autonomic nervous system,

578
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,480
so basically stuck in fight or flight. That could be parasites.

579
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,640
It could be heavy metals. So that's why doctors say

580
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,200
we don't know why people get migraines. There's the same

581
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,559
with tenitis or tentatus. There's so many reasons why people

582
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,480
could have it. Could be inflammation, could be liver, could

583
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:55,960
be kidneys, could be heavy metals, could be parasites. A

584
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,599
lot of people have epstein bar virus right now and

585
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,119
it seems to be a mutation of the old strap.

586
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:03,039
I don't know when you were a kid, did you

587
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:03,559
have strap?

588
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: I had strip a few years ago. Okay, I have children,

589
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,400
because that's fine, they're lovely.

590
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: Right gifts.

591
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:14,519
Speaker 1: You just licked the floor when we walk into a place,

592
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,480
Just lick the en haandstad it, just lick the seats.

593
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,200
Just let's why are we wasting time?

594
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: I see little kids crawling onto the floor, they drop

595
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:25,240
for you and they pick it up, they eat it.

596
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:26,759
You know, it's like they're they're good.

597
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well they have to build their immune systems.

598
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640
I'm good. Yeah, I don't need anymore. Please, thank you.

599
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:32,880
I love it.

600
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,079
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah. So we want to look at

601
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:37,559
the root cause. And that's where I look. I say, Okay,

602
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,319
what is the root cause? Different parts of the body

603
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,279
are going to be different reasons that you have issues.

604
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,039
If you have a lot of liver problems, probably suppressing

605
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:50,359
a lot of anger, long issues, probably suppressing a lot

606
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,839
of grief, kidney issues, probably suppressing a lot of fear.

607
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,039
So every organ, every body part has a message that's

608
00:33:57,079 --> 00:33:58,960
trying to send you. And like we talked about in

609
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,880
the movie, says, if you don't listen to the whispers,

610
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,920
you get the nudges. If you don't listen to the nudges,

611
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,039
you get the hammer. And the hammer is the cancers,

612
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:14,760
the Parkinson's, the degenerative stage four illnesses. Because maybe you

613
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,400
stub your toe, you didn't listen, then you broke your ankle,

614
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,039
you didn't listen. Then you tore your rotator cuff, still

615
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:24,400
didn't listen. You get the hammer. We've got to learn

616
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,480
to listen to our bodies.

617
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: And so why is it that the medical establishment has

618
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:38,519
since its inception essentially really focused so much on the

619
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:42,360
treatments but not the root cause they don't understand, you know,

620
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,880
and I know this is definitely a wormhole, to say

621
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239
the least. I have a lot of doctors in my family.

622
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,639
We have conversations about this all the time. I love

623
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,760
I forgot who said it in the movie, but they said, uh,

624
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,400
modern medicine is great for heroics. You need heart transplant,

625
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,440
someone shot you, you know, you got into a car accident,

626
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,079
don't rub an herb on me, don't get the leaves away,

627
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,039
get me into a hospital. They're really great at that,

628
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:11,599
but the long term understanding of human health, they're not

629
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:14,519
really great at that. So you know, I asked, I

630
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,280
asked the a relative right now who just became a doctor,

631
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,519
probably a couple of years ago, and is not very

632
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,199
happy about how the system is running. But that's another conversation.

633
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,000
She's like, why did I do this that I go

634
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:30,920
how much nutrition just nutritional study? Did you have in

635
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,639
all all the years in medicals. Well, they're like, we

636
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,599
took prebby like two classes on nutrition and I'm like,

637
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:42,039
it's it's literally the guy who the hypocritic oath that guy,

638
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:45,800
he said food is die medicine, right, and yet it's

639
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,119
not that. So why do you think the medical establishment

640
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:51,079
has been focused so much on the treatments but not

641
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,559
the root cause? Is it because there's not as much

642
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:56,920
money to be made on that. I mean, I have

643
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,760
to believe at a certain point. I mean doctors are rate. Yeah,

644
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,039
doctors are here to help us. I think most of

645
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:05,880
them are. You know, they're trying to assist us and

646
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,840
the best way they know how. But a lot of

647
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,400
them have been resistant to nutrition, to vitamin therapy, to the therapies.

648
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,480
We're talking about anything that's alternative, outside of the norm.

649
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,360
They don't even want to investigate it. This goes for

650
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,000
all establishments in general, from science to everything.

651
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,519
Speaker 2: So why do you think, Well, greed we talk about

652
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:28,760
this in the movie. Charles talks about it, Cynthia talks

653
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,719
about it. Greed is one. But like I talk to

654
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,400
people all the time, and we're the culmination of the

655
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,639
things that we listen to the bookshe we read, the

656
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,000
shows that we watch, the people we hang around with, Well,

657
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:48,559
it's not the doctor's fault that they weren't taught. This

658
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:50,639
is what they're taught. This is what they're taught. They're

659
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,159
supposed to do as doctors. They take the Hippocratic oath

660
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
and they to do no harm. But when they're in

661
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:59,440
their training, they're taught that, you know, ozepic is a

662
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,039
great drug. It's awesome, it's great for diabetes, and now

663
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,800
it's weight loss. And now I'm talking to college kids

664
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,760
and they're saying it's you're not cool if you're not

665
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,400
on ozopic.

666
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Well there's if you're a college you can unless you

667
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,880
have a real medical issue for it. Please don't take it.

668
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,639
Speaker 2: Right, right right. But they're taking it and then you

669
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:17,039
can't get off of it. So there's a lot of things,

670
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,920
but this is what they're taught. When I worked for

671
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,639
the doctor's office, and I was seventeen years old, and

672
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,440
I made a lot of observations. This doctor's office was

673
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,920
in Michigan and they prescribed diet pills to elderly women,

674
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:34,119
and my boyfriend's grandmother was one of their patients. And

675
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,880
I'm flipping through the charts, and I'm thinking she's getting

676
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,119
twenty pounds since she started these diet pills. And so

677
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:41,920
I talked to the doctor and he said, well, she said,

678
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,119
they make me feel so good and I can get

679
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,599
my house clean. It was speed, of course it was.

680
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,639
And I'm like, they put this a lady on speed.

681
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: Het is partly to get the She's.

682
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,679
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, right, I'm getting on clear right. So and

683
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
so I got fired from that job because I was

684
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,320
always questioning the doctors. But I'm watching the reps coming

685
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,079
in and they're maybe twenty years old. They had a

686
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:08,280
weekend course about this drug, and they're coming in and

687
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,719
telling the doctors this is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

688
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,039
You need to give it to everybody. And I'm watching

689
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,719
all three of them driving porsches and going out all

690
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,480
the time with these reps, and I'm making observations. And

691
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:23,400
so people were coming up to the window and asking

692
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,079
for things that they shouldn't beginning because you're supposed to

693
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,880
only get that every thirty days. And I got fired,

694
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:33,119
of course. So I think it's a lot of just

695
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,239
they're not educated on how the body works. They're educated

696
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:45,119
on how to prescribe something to heal a symptom, if

697
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,000
that makes sense, And so it's not their fault and

698
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:49,880
they don't have time to dig into it because the

699
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,679
insurance companies are saying, you got five minutes with this person.

700
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,000
In five minutes, you can't tell me that you understand

701
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,360
why this woman has a stomach ache. You put it

702
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,280
on an ulcer medicine. But if you don't know that

703
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,199
she's worried about her son because he's getting into some

704
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,000
trouble no matter what you do, and that's where the

705
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,880
worry is, the pancreas the stomach. So if they're not

706
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,639
asking her what emotions are going on and they're not

707
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,159
taught that, so it's not their fault. But we need

708
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:20,320
to change the system. The system's neither health nor care,

709
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:22,679
so we need to change that.

710
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: You were talking a little bit about the chakra system

711
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:31,800
and things like that. How does the spiritual legacy, if

712
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,119
you will, spiritual ideas play into energy and sound and

713
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,679
light therapy. How is that all mixed in? Because you

714
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:40,719
were saying, like the red of the root chakra and

715
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,320
that kind of stuff.

716
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: Can you kind of dive into that a little bit

717
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,159
so spiritually, I'm not sure if I'll answer this correctly

718
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,760
or not. But I feel like the chakra system is

719
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,239
so ancient, and it's ancient in Eastern medicine, and then

720
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,079
we had Western medicine, and there's some theories about how

721
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:59,480
we separated that years ago with the Vatican and the

722
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,760
Pope trying to sell somebody's souls, and yeah, it just

723
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,119
separated everything. So I feel like there is definitely spiritual

724
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:14,519
forces in sound, and there's spiritual forces in light, and

725
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,239
so that's how I would relate that. That's how I

726
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,039
would answer that question, that sound is spiritual, light is spiritual.

727
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,840
And when we look at the way our body, in

728
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,679
our nervous system is set up, and we might be wrong.

729
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,480
Maybe red is not the root chakra, maybe purple is

730
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:31,519
not the crown chakra.

731
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: But it's been red for four thousand.

732
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:37,039
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, But can it change? We don't know.

733
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,679
As the planet's changing. Look how much is changing right now.

734
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,039
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

735
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:52,280
and now back to the show, And.

736
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: So what if that all changes? But right now, red

737
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,719
is the root chakra, Purple is the crown chakra. And

738
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,119
we look at things from the spiritual forces of sound

739
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,760
and the spiritual forces of light. So when I create music,

740
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,800
because I do still produce music, I look at what

741
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,159
way form of instrument do I want to use. So,

742
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,679
say we want to work on detoxing heavy metals, It's

743
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:18,519
probably going to be some didgeridoo, some drumming to penetrate

744
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:21,199
the density of the organs that are here and to

745
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,719
release like heavy metals from being stuck in the bloodstream

746
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,599
and the organs. You got to have a little bit

747
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:30,679
of bass. We got to love that bass. And then

748
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,599
we'll put on different light colors. You can do this

749
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:36,280
at home. You can wear red, you can eat red foods.

750
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:40,360
And I'm starting to study right now, like what foods

751
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,960
are replenishing, what vitamins and minerals and is there a

752
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,559
relationship to what color they are?

753
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: Well there is, yeah, I mean there is death size,

754
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,320
so to.

755
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: Be vitamins and orange and red foods and orange light.

756
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,840
So looking at how to replenish that way. So I

757
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,480
think not sure if I answered the question, But spiritually

758
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,000
I think that there's spiritual forces to sound, in spiritual

759
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,800
forces to light.

760
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: We've kind of dug into this sound therapy a whole lot. Now,

761
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,519
what about light therapy because you know. Sound I get,

762
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,559
I'm gonna get. I'm Devil's advocate here. Sound I understand

763
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,599
because you can literally feel it. But you walk into

764
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:21,639
a box and there's some red light on you, Like,

765
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,079
I've heard of red and this has now been proven.

766
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:26,719
But like red therapy or I think a red light

767
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,199
therapy where athletes are now recovering faster because of this

768
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,719
red light therapy, can you explain what that is? Because that,

769
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,599
to me sounds so much more woo than sound frequency.

770
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:40,639
Because sound frequency you literally can see it, you can

771
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,840
feel it. There is some studies behind it. But with light,

772
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,480
you're like, what am I doing? Like I've been in

773
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:50,079
a sawnos with a red light on. I'm like, does

774
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,920
all red lights work? Does this specific red light works?

775
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:54,199
What's happening there?

776
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: So every light color has a different spectrum, So reds

777
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,320
and oranges are more stimulating, where greens are more neutral.

778
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:07,960
Blues are very calming, purple calming, relaxing, and so that's

779
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:12,760
kind of how I design my protocols. When you have

780
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,480
red light therapy, it can actually increase the circulation. So

781
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,960
that's why I think red light therapy is great for

782
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:22,280
athletes with injuries because it can increase the circulation, help

783
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:25,719
that injury to heal faster. But you don't want to

784
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,440
put a little kid on red light therapy. They're already

785
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:29,559
crazy enough, right.

786
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have enough energy and oh god, their bodies. Yeah,

787
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:35,960
my kids come up to me like, oh my back orsm,

788
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,320
Like shut up, shut shut up, wrong with you? You're sore,

789
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,239
Like you're just sore. You did something in gym. Shut

790
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,719
until you wake up and everything starts popping. I don't

791
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,440
want to hear anything.

792
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, right, I know, like I hear you,

793
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,679
because after I turn fifty, I'm like, what is this

794
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,000
little scene?

795
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:57,199
Speaker 1: I don't know if these to mark, I don't know

796
00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:58,920
if it's like all of a sudden things just like

797
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,639
Papa puplic, What is happening to me?

798
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:04,599
Speaker 2: To change that mindset, I'm like, no, fifty, I'm going down. Yeah,

799
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:06,199
I'm going to go down in age now.

800
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,199
Speaker 1: Right, go ahead, let me know if that works all right?

801
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: Right, So even on red light, we don't use it

802
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,559
for pets, you know, because they don't need the stimulation,

803
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:23,840
right right, yeah, can you imagine chihuahua? So every color

804
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,880
I think has a different, different spectrum. Look at McDonald's,

805
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,320
look at these restaurants. Think about it. There's a lot

806
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:36,719
of red in McDonald's burger Kings, RBI's KFC stimulating, stimulating

807
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,559
the appetite.

808
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:39,639
Speaker 1: But that's and none I'm going to cut you off here.

809
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:44,360
But color spectrum in the filmmaking world, that's extremely powerful

810
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:48,280
storytelling because if you put someone in a red jacket,

811
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:51,159
it's very different if you put them in a green jacket,

812
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,360
or a blue jacket or a black the standard black guy,

813
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:56,840
the back guy wears black, the good guy wears white,

814
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,599
old old school kind of stuff like that. So it's

815
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:03,320
a very powerful just that alone. We react to colors

816
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,519
in a different way, but I never thought of it

817
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:09,039
as a healing aspect or connection to it.

818
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 2: You don't want to paint your kitchen yellow. It stimulates

819
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,280
the appetite. Look at the banks, A lot of banks

820
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,960
are blues and greens, calming, trustworthy, you know, hey, money here,

821
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,639
educated or wisdom, and there's no accident that. Look at

822
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:29,440
the trees, I mean, I love looking at trees. Every

823
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,960
different color of green. I can't even explain all the

824
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,199
colors of green and the grass. And it's a neutral color.

825
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,679
It's a healing color. And so when we look at color.

826
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,000
We have to look at what does it effect? How

827
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,480
does it affect a body? And not everybody's going to

828
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:50,000
respond the same to every color. Like I have one lady.

829
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,480
I put her on orange light one time and she's like,

830
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,840
hate orange light. Okay, let's dig into this. Why do

831
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,800
you hate orange light? At the root cause after about

832
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,719
an hour conversation, when she was born, it was a

833
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,360
traumatic berth And what she remembers is that the nurses

834
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,719
had orange smocks on.

835
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:09,039
Speaker 1: That's the association.

836
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: And she was twenty five years old.

837
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what she was she remembered that. Yeah. Interesting,

838
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:20,400
So each light does it matter the quality of light?

839
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,639
Could it be a cheap red light or does it

840
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:23,960
have to be a specific kind of light?

841
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: Well, they say, and the ancients used to say, you

842
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,559
want to have silk, They woulde silks and that would

843
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,320
be the thing you would drape it over you to

844
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,239
have that color infused in your energy field. Yeah. So

845
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,760
for me, you know, I would love to use fiber optics.

846
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:43,480
Fiber optics, I think that the technology will change, but

847
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:46,400
right now I'm using like a non off gassing mercury

848
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:50,039
led light spectrum because I wanted to get the most

849
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,199
of the light spectrum. I can get almost the full

850
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,159
red to purple light spectrum with these lights.

851
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pretty powerful.

852
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So I'm sure an incandescent painted light bulb

853
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:03,880
will still be showing your eyes the color. So your

854
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,199
eyes are going to still see that color.

855
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: So it's not okay. So yeah, because I was always

856
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:08,920
that was the thing that always I was trying to

857
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,519
really be confused because if you were in a let's say,

858
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,079
a cheap sauna, like a little cheapy sauna, and they

859
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:16,559
had this little red light there, I'm like, what is

860
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,440
this supposed to do? I was like, there has to

861
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,599
be like a special kind of bulb or a special

862
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:24,719
kind of light to give you the special thing. So

863
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,119
any red bulb, any yellow bulb, any green bulb, or

864
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:29,320
anything like that, it's.

865
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: Just I believe so. And even if you're wearing red

866
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,960
and in your you know, you're absorbing that into your

867
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,920
body because the sunlight. You don't have to have your

868
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,119
eyes open to get the benefit from the sunlight. We

869
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,559
all lay out in the sun and we get the

870
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:43,679
healing energy of the sun when we got our eyes

871
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:47,039
closed and we're just there. Yeah, So I don't think.

872
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: So so is that why when you walk them up?

873
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,159
There's many reasons why you walk amongst nature or you're

874
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:56,760
at the beach, the energy, the grounding, the ions from

875
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:58,840
coming in from the waters and things, but just the

876
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,199
color spectrums of those areas are so peaceful and relaxing

877
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,519
and calming. You go to Zion National Park, you know,

878
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,880
or Yosemite or you know, or Seqoia and you just

879
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,039
sit there and just like you know, but there's the

880
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:16,360
energy of course of the plants, of the nature of

881
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,119
all that stuff, but just on a color spectrum that

882
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,679
also has a relaxing, calming effect.

883
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: On us, right, absolutely, absolutely.

884
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: So, So that's how So that's the spectrum of color.

885
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,360
So we have sound, then we have light, and then

886
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:36,119
is there is energy healing, there's vibration, vibration, So how's

887
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:37,800
that different than than frequency?

888
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me see. There's a sonic massage that

889
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,559
you can get with listening to music. So you're not

890
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:47,559
going to get that if you're just listening to speakers

891
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:49,880
that don't have a base or they don't have a subwiffer.

892
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,800
But when you add the sub wilfer in and you

893
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,000
add the music, the intention of the music because there's

894
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,039
intention too, Like Jonathan Goldman says, frequency plus attention equals healing, right, Josh, yeah,

895
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:04,559
that's great, it's great. I haven't gotten his attention yet,

896
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:08,480
but someday, so when you get that all going. But

897
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,760
that's the sub warffer in the base. I mean, think

898
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,679
about how you feel at a concert when you're that

899
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:17,480
bass is hitting your chest. Oh my gosh, it's so amazing.

900
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:19,480
I mean it can be a little overwhelming because you

901
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:23,280
can also have too much of that. And I think

902
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,199
that's the vibration that helps people to heal. We have

903
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,880
those exercise plates now, the vibrational plates. It shakes the body. Yeah,

904
00:49:32,119 --> 00:49:35,360
so that's vibration. There's different than frequencies, different than sound,

905
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,800
different than light. But when you combine it all together,

906
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,480
you have a lot of modalities in one.

907
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: So you talked you mentioned Tesla before. How does the

908
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,760
sacred geometry of Tesla's math contribute to healing or energy healing?

909
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,519
Speaker 2: So everything in nature is sacred geometry. And I think

910
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:55,599
the pyramids are still standing today when the office building

911
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,559
down the road from ten years ago isn't standing, correct

912
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,679
because of sacred geam And I think nature respects sacred geometry.

913
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,400
You go outside. I think Tesla talks about three sixes

914
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,559
and nines, and I've observed nature quite a bit now

915
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:13,719
because of the Tesla mathematics.

916
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,079
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

917
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:22,960
and now back to the show.

918
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:32,639
Speaker 2: And three leaf clovers to me are more natural than

919
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:34,519
a four leaf clover. So is a four leaf clover

920
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:38,320
like a mutation. Because you look at petals of flowers,

921
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,920
you'll see twelve, you'll see nine, you'll see six, you'll

922
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,639
see all divisible by three. And so I find it

923
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,880
fascinating to watch nature and how I see the three

924
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,119
sixes and nines all the time. And so I just

925
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:54,800
I love sacred geometry. I think sacred geometry has a

926
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:00,480
symbiotic relationship with nature. We've had my technology has a

927
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:04,400
lot of sacred geometry in it. We've had them in Maui.

928
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:09,000
They're still standing. The Marshall fires in Colorado. I'd like

929
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,000
the fires went around the centers Fort Myers, hurricanes, flooding,

930
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:18,000
so many different things in it. Never a tornado in

931
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,400
Texas and Garland just went around the center. Like how

932
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,360
is this? How do you explain that?

933
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:30,679
Speaker 1: Interesting? That's fascinating. Now you also mentioned intention what do

934
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,760
you can you talk a little bit about what intention

935
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,760
means to the energy behind intention, because intention just means like,

936
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,280
you know, I'm intending to hurt you, even though I'm

937
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,400
see up and see a killer and I have I'm

938
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,639
ted Bundy and ah, it's just to help me with

939
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:49,039
the couch in the back of my car kind of thing.

940
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:55,000
So my intentions are obviously dubious, but outside I'm fine.

941
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:58,519
So intention does That's what people pick up on because

942
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:00,840
you know, those kind of characters don't get all of

943
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,440
their victims because they can pick up on the intention.

944
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:07,320
Something is telling them that how does that intention work

945
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:07,920
in healing?

946
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,079
Speaker 2: So how we use the intention, which is so lovely,

947
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,800
is when two or more are gathered. So you've got

948
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,920
a practitioner, you've got a client, and they're saying, you

949
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,320
know what, I really want to attract a different job

950
00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:25,880
or a different partner in my life. So we help

951
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,920
them set the intention and say, okay, feel what it

952
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,360
would feel like and all the selves of your being

953
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,280
to wake up in the morning without your alarm clock,

954
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,719
you can't wait to go to work. How is that

955
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,159
going to feel? And you start attracting what you intend.

956
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,239
We all know you know some people do this, Oh

957
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,480
my gosh, I know I'm gonna get in a car

958
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:46,880
accident that day, and they're like, you know what, I

959
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,760
got in a car accident. Or my mom has breast cancer,

960
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,280
so I know I'm going to get breast cancer. Guess

961
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,000
what they get breast cancer. And so that's an intention

962
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:56,559
that you don't want to set. You set an intention of.

963
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,360
And this is how I set my whole life. I

964
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,280
intend that everything's going to go well for me. Everything's

965
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,119
going to work out, everything's going to flow, and no

966
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:07,960
matter what happens, it's all for a reason. And that's

967
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,880
how my life works. I was actually in a little

968
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,159
car accident the other day. The guy was going down

969
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,360
I twenty five in Denver. It was dark out, and

970
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,639
he tagged me. But I just felt this little bump

971
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:22,039
and I was like, I think he just hit me.

972
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:25,039
And I heard screeching and squealing and he pulled over

973
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:27,119
on the shoulder and I pulled over behind him on

974
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:31,320
the shoulder and I thought, it's dark out. I'm by myself.

975
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:34,199
Is this guy did he tag me to, you know,

976
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,199
carjack me or something. I'm going to wait till he

977
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:38,000
gets out of the car. See what he looks like,

978
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,440
size him up, and then you know, I'll get out

979
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,719
of the car, right, feel that intention? What is his intention? Right?

980
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:48,199
So he gets out of the car. He looked so

981
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,559
scared and he said, oh my god, I'm so sorry.

982
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:54,360
I don't think I hit you. I said, no, you

983
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,239
tagged me and he said no, I don't think I did.

984
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,519
He goes, but I should have. He said, we're going

985
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:02,440
to the hockey game. I wasn't paying attention. I was

986
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,519
looking at my phone, I was speeding. I was talking

987
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:08,320
to my buddy and he was so sweet and how

988
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:14,000
he looked so scared. I gave him a hug. Yeah,

989
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:15,960
I'm like, I just hugged a guy for hitting me.

990
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,519
What is wrong with me? And he was like, you're

991
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:22,000
handling this so well, and you know, because it could

992
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:25,360
have gone very wrong for him. Yeah, very wrong. And

993
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:27,320
we looked at my bumper and had a little scuff on.

994
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,440
I said, go enjoy the game. He's like, are you sure,

995
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,719
and I said yeah, I'm sure, just go and he's like,

996
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:35,840
thank you. And I thought, that's why I created the movie,

997
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,800
and we'll come back to the movie. Because I wanted

998
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,599
people to do things with more kindness. There's no reason

999
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:43,400
to scream and yell. He was so sorry, he was

1000
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,960
he felt horrible. What am I going to do scream

1001
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,119
and yell at him, you know, attack him? And I

1002
00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:51,760
just want people to do things with more kindness, more love,

1003
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,800
and have that intention when you go out, everything's going

1004
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,199
to work out for you. Everything's going to flow.

1005
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:01,679
Speaker 1: So people that use these therapies, what is the long

1006
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,719
term effects? Meaning like how long do they stay healed?

1007
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,880
How long do they feel better? Are you? Are you

1008
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,199
stuck on it? Like I have to keep going back

1009
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,400
a thousand times, you know, like a drug, Like like

1010
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,119
I need to say this for the rest of my life.

1011
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,159
I mean periodically. Of course you're going to have to.

1012
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:19,039
You know, if you get a massage, it wears off. Yeah,

1013
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:20,719
do a lot of these healings do that? Or can

1014
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,719
you actually heal something if other things are in play

1015
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,119
and not have to worry about that specific thing anymore.

1016
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,199
Speaker 2: I think the body in the right environment can heal itself.

1017
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:32,800
We know if a bone breaks, it's going to heal.

1018
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,400
We know if we scratch ourselves it's going to scab

1019
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,840
over in a heal. But I think people get caught

1020
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,159
up with what the medical community says, well, you're going

1021
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:44,480
to have this forever or it's a death sentence, and

1022
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,840
I don't think it is. But I don't want people

1023
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,239
to be dependent on energy healing. I want them to

1024
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,760
heal their own bodies. But this is a support, you know,

1025
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,400
these modalities, these healers are support for us to heal ourselves.

1026
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,280
We need to heal our We shouldn't be going to

1027
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,960
a doctor and saying, what do I take What's wrong

1028
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,199
with me? We should be going, hey, this is what

1029
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,199
I think's going on. Can you help me with this.

1030
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,840
I've had clients that had a fire because I don't

1031
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,519
want people depending on it. But there's a small part

1032
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:19,039
of the population that is so identified with their disease

1033
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,679
that it's exciting for them. And I had one lady.

1034
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,480
I think she believed if she healed, her husband would

1035
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:29,119
leave her. Oh, so that belief, that belief overcame everything.

1036
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,159
She was never getting better, but she kept coming back,

1037
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:34,639
and I said, I just can't help you anymore. You

1038
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,440
have to help yourself. And I went to a networking

1039
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,519
event one time and this guy was running around. He

1040
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:44,239
had created a whole where you donate to a foundation.

1041
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,920
Whole foundation around his wife's illness and he's like, no,

1042
00:56:47,519 --> 00:56:50,119
she's a larger to laundry soap. And he seemed excited

1043
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,559
about it. And so then when he came up to

1044
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:53,880
me and he said what do you do? I said,

1045
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,719
I'm in transition. I wasn't going to waste my oxygen

1046
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,880
in my breath to tell him what I did, because

1047
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,320
he was I did to have his wife so sick.

1048
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: That's an interesting idea because I mean Muchjohnson syndrome is

1049
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,719
a great idea, you know, moochjohon Sen syndrome, where the

1050
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:18,000
parent will basically make the child sick. Oh yeah, so

1051
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,599
they can get attention. Right, It's like this, like you know,

1052
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:24,679
so they slowly you know, poison them. I mean literally literally,

1053
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,000
there's a many famous cases about that. So Moochjohnson syndrome

1054
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,719
is something like that, where the disease is just another

1055
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,239
form for the ego to uh to get attention, or

1056
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,960
a belief like if I all the love I get

1057
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:40,360
is because of my disease, and if I heal myself,

1058
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,079
I'll lose everybody around me. These kind of stories belief

1059
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:47,079
systems are very very powerful in our world, isn't it?

1060
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:50,639
Speaker 2: Absolutely yes, and I do have clients like that and

1061
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,480
they almost their kid starts to walk and they push

1062
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:57,320
them down. Oh no, you can't walk. You're sick, you're this, you're.

1063
00:57:57,159 --> 00:57:58,079
Speaker 1: That, because it's a box.

1064
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: So it's the same. I didn't hear of it as

1065
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,320
disease kind of a thing what you just said, but yeah,

1066
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:03,920
it's a thing.

1067
00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: It's it's something that like it's a it's a story

1068
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,960
where like I, it was kind of like when you're

1069
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,119
in a bad relationship, you're like, well, I know this crazy,

1070
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,360
this new unknown crazy that could possibly come is scary.

1071
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:19,480
I know this one, and I'll you know better the

1072
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,519
devil you know than the devil you don't. And that

1073
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:23,599
kind of goes along with healing as well, especially with

1074
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:27,920
people with chronic diseases or chronic ideas about what they had.

1075
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:29,960
Like I had, I had issues with my I thought

1076
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,760
I had issues with my ankles for years. I twisted

1077
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,920
my ankles, broke them, tore them apart, ripped out ligaments

1078
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:39,519
throughout my entire life. I had just ankle issues and

1079
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,960
I just thought I had weak ankles. I went to

1080
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,559
the doctor, I went to arthropedic surgeons. I go on

1081
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:48,239
my ankle's just weak, and he would test me and

1082
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,280
they were like, no, man, your ankles are fine. And

1083
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,599
only within the last three or four years I found

1084
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:56,519
out it was my hips. My hips were so out

1085
00:58:56,519 --> 00:59:00,800
of alignment that I would always fall when I was

1086
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,440
in athletics since I was a child. So that I

1087
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,920
did therapy in I was able to do a squat

1088
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,719
and now I'm fine and I have no issues with

1089
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,599
my ankles. But it was the story I told myself

1090
00:59:11,639 --> 00:59:13,639
because I was all proof I had. Who would have

1091
00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:17,719
known my hips, you know, with the problem. You know,

1092
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,079
I had to get physical therapy to strengthen those areas

1093
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:23,079
and stretch it all out. And then once that happened,

1094
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:24,239
the body was in alignment.

1095
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: Din you ever sing that song the wrist bones connected

1096
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,760
to the elbe, the ankle bones connected to the hip bone.

1097
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: But that's that's kind of a version of that. That

1098
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,039
that was the story I was telling myself. So people do,

1099
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:40,800
and I think people listening, you know, if there is

1100
00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:43,519
if they have some sort of chronic thing. I'm not

1101
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:46,079
going to the extreme of cancer, but just anything chronic

1102
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:51,000
headaches or this or that, analyze the story you're telling

1103
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:55,400
yourself about those illnesses and see if there's anything behind

1104
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,920
what we're saying here, because that could be one of

1105
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,119
the things that has really stopped because you like, perfect example,

1106
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:04,920
there was a I know these stories all the time

1107
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,280
where a doctor doesn't tell or that the patient doesn't

1108
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,360
know that they have cancer or that the cancer is

1109
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,559
that serious, and they've been filled with positivity like you're

1110
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:16,599
gonna break, you can and they all and they think

1111
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:20,119
there's hope. The moment that they have hope, it pushes

1112
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:21,840
them forward because that's the story they're telling them, and

1113
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,079
the body reacts accordingly.

1114
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1115
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:32,360
and now back to the show.

1116
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,159
Speaker 1: But the second a doctor's like, oh, you really only

1117
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:39,920
have three months to live, the moment that happened, they

1118
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,840
die three months later. It's it's all in here. It's

1119
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,159
the placebo effect, right. Can you talk a little bit

1120
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:50,159
about the placebo effect and and that idea of like

1121
01:00:50,239 --> 01:00:53,639
whatever we actually believe and we can't be delusional about

1122
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:55,679
things like I don't have cancer. I don't have cancer.

1123
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:58,440
H I mean, you don't want to go to that extreme,

1124
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,719
but there is some validity to we're talking about.

1125
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: Correct, Oh, definitely. I I went my bed until I

1126
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:05,840
was eight years old, and I'm sure there was some

1127
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,800
kind of a stress around that, and I was so embarrassed. Right,

1128
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:13,440
my mom took me to the doctor and the doctor said,

1129
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,480
here's a little red pill once. If you take this,

1130
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:17,880
you won't put your bed anymore. And guess what, I didn't.

1131
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:20,719
I think it was just a little sugar yeah. Yeah, yeah,

1132
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,639
But in my head I was like, oh, thank god,

1133
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:25,360
because I'm so like, I don't know how those pills, right,

1134
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,320
I need those red pills, right. So I think it's

1135
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,360
the same thing. I mean, you nailed it when you

1136
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,559
said if somebody says you're only going to live for

1137
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:34,280
three more months, there most of them are dead within

1138
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:34,880
the three months.

1139
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: If they believe it. Yeah, yeah, if they believe.

1140
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: Right, if they believe it, if they believe it. Because

1141
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,119
our mind is so powerful, and that.

1142
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:44,719
Speaker 1: Goes along with like your uh worthless. Uh you need

1143
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,039
all these stories that we tell ourselves. And I'm bringing

1144
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:50,679
these ideas in because the stories that we tell ourselves

1145
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,079
are the things that control our lives in all aspects

1146
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:56,400
of an healing being one of the major ones. If

1147
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,199
your belief system is that, I mean, I would wonder

1148
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,719
I would be curious to think if like, you know,

1149
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:03,679
you know, I want to say with fast food is

1150
01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:06,599
fast food is the cure to all of my woes,

1151
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:10,719
and they truly believed it. I'm curious that they ate

1152
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,199
like nothing but fast food and they were fine, and

1153
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,239
they were well, there are people who do that. By

1154
01:02:15,239 --> 01:02:18,199
the way, there's a guy who ate a big Mac

1155
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:22,039
for forty years. He has the record. He's this thin,

1156
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:26,840
he has no problems physically, like his heart's find the

1157
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,559
diabet and it makes no sense why that works, Like

1158
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:33,559
how did that happen? Where? If you I did, that

1159
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:34,480
would be dead.

1160
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:37,039
Speaker 2: If we thought so. Maybe not.

1161
01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:39,639
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's there was a documentary years ago

1162
01:02:41,679 --> 01:02:47,280
centurions who were just doing whatever they wanted to at

1163
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,639
like a hundred, one hundred and tenth. There was this

1164
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:51,760
guy in England. I never forgot this guy. He was

1165
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,159
like one hundred and ten. He jogged every day, he

1166
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,320
smoked like three packs a day, had been for like

1167
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:04,519
seventy years, drank pints every day at the bar, you know,

1168
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,079
at the pub. And he's like, don't live like me,

1169
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:10,199
You'll die. And I was just like, this is the

1170
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:12,599
best I know, you know, But he goes, but don't

1171
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:14,719
do what I do. It works for me, but I

1172
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,039
doubt that it'll work for you. Fascinating idea of what

1173
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:20,960
the mentality behind it.

1174
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,119
Speaker 2: Well, and he told himself a story that he can

1175
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,840
do this and it won't affect him like we tell

1176
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,320
it Like you said, we tell ourselves stories every day.

1177
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,159
I was at the hair salon the other day and

1178
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,239
they were talking about relationships and he says, well, how

1179
01:03:35,239 --> 01:03:38,039
many marriages do you have before you realize? You know,

1180
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,639
you're not the Marian type? And I'm like two. And

1181
01:03:40,679 --> 01:03:42,119
he's like, what do you mean. I'm like, I've been

1182
01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:45,440
married twice, and you know, I said my second marriage.

1183
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,519
I said. I flew to Peru. He had been there

1184
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:51,800
for a week. I got there and he said, oh,

1185
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,679
I fell in love with the assistant tour guide, so

1186
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:56,519
I want a divorce when I got there, Yeah, he

1187
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:59,280
was there for a week. And he's like, you're lying.

1188
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,239
And the guy that here's on your line. I'm like, no,

1189
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,360
it's a true story. I said. My life is stranger

1190
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,400
than fiction. My stories are my stories, but they're not

1191
01:04:06,639 --> 01:04:10,480
who I am. If I define myself by that, right,

1192
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:13,840
I would probably say I'm terrible. I know I suck

1193
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,440
at relationships. I can say all these things to myself,

1194
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:19,480
but if you believe them, then you do suck at

1195
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:22,480
relationship station right right. And I don't believe that. I

1196
01:04:22,519 --> 01:04:25,280
believe that I was in a vibration where I was

1197
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,840
attracting something because I didn't love myself. And now I'm

1198
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,679
in this wonderful relationship where I've attracted this loving person

1199
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,320
that takes such good care of me, and I'm in gratitude,

1200
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,320
and I stay in that place of gratitude and I

1201
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,199
keep attracting more good stuff.

1202
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:45,119
Speaker 1: But also to a certain extent too, that those other relationships.

1203
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,360
And I can speak for myself, not in your case,

1204
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,679
but just as general, all those negative things that happened

1205
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:54,440
to you were lessons I needed to learn at that

1206
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:57,199
moment in my life for me to be where I

1207
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,320
am today. I wouldn't be where I'm sitting here today

1208
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,039
without all all of the pain, suffering and experiences that

1209
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:05,280
I've gone through in my life. It hasn't all been

1210
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,559
peaches and cream. So and only when you go through

1211
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,639
those difficult times and challenging times is when you grow

1212
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:16,679
the most because you're being tested on what you really want. Like, Okay,

1213
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:18,920
let's see if this person learned the less and let's

1214
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,960
send him another narcissist. Let's send her, Let's send him

1215
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,079
another narcissist, or her another narcissist to see if he

1216
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:26,840
he or she figured this out. Like, I don't want

1217
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,280
this anymore, but we're gonna make her look exactly the

1218
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,760
way they would want and don't walk in. It'll start good,

1219
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,559
but then they'll start to do what happens when you

1220
01:05:37,639 --> 01:05:41,360
date a narcissist. Let's see or are they going to

1221
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,679
go down this road again? Because this guy's gonna be

1222
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,119
worse than the last three. We're gonna make this one

1223
01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:48,960
that this is the hammer. This is so let's see

1224
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,639
if this person avoids the hammer, if they've learned the lesson.

1225
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you agree one hundred percent, because I wouldn't be

1226
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:56,679
the person I am today. And that's why people say,

1227
01:05:56,679 --> 01:05:58,679
do you have any regrets? I said no, because I

1228
01:05:58,719 --> 01:06:00,519
would not be the person I am today if my

1229
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:02,679
dad wasn't an alcoholic and I wasn't molested by the

1230
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:04,239
priests of the parish when I was fourteen and my

1231
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:06,599
two divorces, and I'm like, I wouldn't be who I

1232
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:09,440
am and I couldn't teach what I teach. I couldn't

1233
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,760
tell people, well, you were, what twenty seven when you

1234
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,039
almost went through the bankruptcy?

1235
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh, when I was twenty seven. Yeah, when I did

1236
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:19,320
the movie for the Mob, and yeah.

1237
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was twenty seven, and and I went through

1238
01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:23,239
it because I was so stubborn. I said, nope, I'm

1239
01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:25,400
going to do this corporate job. I'm going to work

1240
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,519
in corporate And every door kept getting slammed and slammed

1241
01:06:28,599 --> 01:06:31,079
until I lost my identity. I felt like I was

1242
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:34,000
stripped naked, and here I am. I have no idea identity.

1243
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:38,280
I'm this bang loser now, and you know, and the

1244
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,360
only thing that was available to me was to do

1245
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,320
the wellness center. And so yes, I believe that. When

1246
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,039
I was with my sole family in another universe, I

1247
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:50,039
took my last sip of tea and I said, well,

1248
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:52,280
going to Earth, guys, I'll see in one hundred years

1249
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:52,639
or so.

1250
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: And so I learn what lesson should we learn this time? Oh,

1251
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,920
let's all sit down and look, okay, well you need

1252
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,239
it done this one. Oh, this one's going to be

1253
01:06:59,239 --> 01:06:59,760
a doozy.

1254
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah great, and we're all excited, and oh.

1255
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:05,119
Speaker 1: This one's gonna be super painful. Oh you're gonna love

1256
01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:07,760
this one. It's hard for us down here as the

1257
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,079
characters being played out and this this insane play, simulation

1258
01:07:11,159 --> 01:07:13,480
play that we're in. But on the other side, it's

1259
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:15,679
kind of like looking at a movie or a TV

1260
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:17,960
show when you see characters go through pain. The only

1261
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,599
way you attach yourselves more to a character is when

1262
01:07:20,639 --> 01:07:23,480
you throw obstacles in front of them, when you challenge them.

1263
01:07:23,719 --> 01:07:26,559
Because if their just life is going, it's boring and

1264
01:07:26,599 --> 01:07:30,880
they're not learning and they're not growing. So with that say,

1265
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,599
you don't have to have all that all the time.

1266
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,760
But if you are learning these lessons, and that's why

1267
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,920
we're all here is to learn these lessons, and the

1268
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,719
healing journey is that as well, you know, trying to

1269
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,840
if you're being if you have something inside of you

1270
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,719
that's off balance, it is your responsibility if you want

1271
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,760
to to educate yourself learn about this stuff. You know.

1272
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,320
I have relatives who were chro had chronic issues, and

1273
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,119
they went to multiple doctors and couldn't figure out what

1274
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,719
he were just like I don't know, And they started

1275
01:08:03,719 --> 01:08:05,760
doing their own research, reading their own books to start

1276
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,920
to heal themselves by trigger pointing, which is so powerful

1277
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,239
or some other things like that that you know is like,

1278
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,479
oh my god, this is like what's wrong here? Oh,

1279
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,399
hold on a second, and you hit the trigger you

1280
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:23,720
go oh yeah, and you're better now. And it's all science.

1281
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,319
It's not even woo stuff. It's amazing. Now.

1282
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:29,399
Speaker 2: I had a guy with drop foot and he was

1283
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:32,239
it's where you drag your foot and you just can't

1284
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:34,239
pick it up. And you know, he thought, well, it's

1285
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:36,640
an achilles tendon. It's this, it's that, it's the ankle,

1286
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,199
it's a weak ankle, it's something something. Everything's connected. It

1287
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:45,279
was the right foot, head, drop foot. His CE one

1288
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,720
was off. As soon as the chiropractor adjusted C one,

1289
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:50,800
he started.

1290
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: Walking because the connection with the nerve.

1291
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,119
Speaker 2: Came down and connected right there.

1292
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

1293
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean, all the information's out there for us to

1294
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:00,800
heal ourselves. We have to go look for right, we

1295
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,840
have to study, we have to research. But who knows

1296
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,800
your body better than you?

1297
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,039
Speaker 1: And I think that the big problem I think we

1298
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:08,560
have and I think it wasn't as much. I think

1299
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,439
our generation was one of the first to kind of

1300
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,159
break three free from this, and definitely the generation that's

1301
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:18,359
coming after us the but like our parents generation and

1302
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:24,600
great grand and grandparents generation. The white coat was all powerful,

1303
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,399
just like the priest was all powerful, just like the

1304
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,600
politician was all powerful, like the banker was all powerful

1305
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,880
like that. Whatever they you know, if you had some

1306
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,439
sort of professional there you know what, I don't know

1307
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,359
anything you must you know. So if the white coat

1308
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,039
said it, the white coat, that's what it was. Where

1309
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,279
now it's kind of be like at least a lot

1310
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,279
of the more holistic mds are starting to like, no,

1311
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:49,800
you need to do this, you need to do that.

1312
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,560
They're they're throwing responsibility on some on their patients a

1313
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,079
bit more because they can't do it all and they

1314
01:09:56,119 --> 01:09:58,680
are aware of it. At least the good ones are unaware.

1315
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,520
They're aware of that. They can not heal you if

1316
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,199
you don't work with them, if you don't heal yourself,

1317
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,479
like don't smokes six packs a day, don't drink you know,

1318
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,520
don't stop watching that documentary that kid, that guy's not

1319
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,640
that's not you. But you have to be able to

1320
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,720
do it yourself. And I think the biggest problem we

1321
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,640
have in at least Western society is giving our power away.

1322
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

1323
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,680
and now back to the show, to not.

1324
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,359
Speaker 1: Just the medical field, but to all aspects of our lives.

1325
01:10:34,399 --> 01:10:37,840
What it's financial, whether it's political, where it's health, where

1326
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:43,239
it's you know, our entertainment. You're giving away your power.

1327
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,239
And I think what's happening. I think in the world

1328
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:49,960
the shift is happening is we're starting to empower ourselves,

1329
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:52,279
We're starting to educate ourselves. And it all started with

1330
01:10:52,319 --> 01:10:55,800
the Internet. The connection of information, the direct connection to

1331
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,000
information worldwide has allowed us to kind of find out

1332
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:04,000
things that would have taken us forever to research and

1333
01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:06,760
to really find good information about would you agree.

1334
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? My parents were both medical aerodests and

1335
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,359
in their seventies because they gave their power away. Yeah,

1336
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:15,960
my dad worked on an asbestos plant for thirty years.

1337
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,760
Well there's that, and they said you have COPD because

1338
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,159
the wouldn't test him for me's aal the lioma. And

1339
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:25,439
so then he was on nine different drugs, antidepressants, painkillers,

1340
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,680
inhaler after inhaler for mis ata lioma because they were

1341
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,119
treating him for COPD, and he suffered a horrible end

1342
01:11:32,159 --> 01:11:34,920
of his life for the last four years, you know,

1343
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,520
and my mom just a similar situation. But they gave

1344
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,159
away their power and we need to take our power back.

1345
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:44,199
And that's the thing people are complaining in grocery store

1346
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:46,560
prices are so high, blah blah blah. Then grow your

1347
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,359
own food, right, I think that we should be. I

1348
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:52,920
was going to write to the one of the local

1349
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,640
newspeople and saying, what you should do is suggest that

1350
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,960
we get we give free seeds away to people. Once

1351
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,159
we start growing our own they're not going to be

1352
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:04,079
able to charge those high grocery store prices because we're

1353
01:12:04,119 --> 01:12:05,960
not going to buy them. We're gonna grow our own food.

1354
01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: And it's just getting your power back, Yeah, in all

1355
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,159
aspects of our lives, you know, And hopefully these kind

1356
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:15,439
of conversations empower people to start, at least, you know,

1357
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,199
even investigate what we're talking about. Please, don't take anything

1358
01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:21,880
that we say at face value. You should do your

1359
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,479
own research, You should do your own testing. See it

1360
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,439
for yourself. I'm a very grounded I know, I know

1361
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,079
it's weird, but I'm a very grounded guy. You know.

1362
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:34,319
I try to look at things very even keel and yeah,

1363
01:12:34,359 --> 01:12:37,079
I do understand the things of the spiritual nature and stuff,

1364
01:12:37,119 --> 01:12:39,079
but even the stuff I talk about in the spiritual nature,

1365
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:44,039
there's so much proof, so much knowledge, or so much

1366
01:12:44,119 --> 01:12:46,760
history behind certain things like the chakra system. People are like, oh,

1367
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,960
you're talking about chaka. It's been around for seven thousand

1368
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,159
plus years in the in the Indian, in the Indian,

1369
01:12:52,199 --> 01:12:56,039
in the East Ideas and versions of it throughout multiple cultures.

1370
01:12:56,279 --> 01:12:58,800
You can't tell me that there's nothing nothing valid there,

1371
01:12:59,119 --> 01:13:05,920
or Chinese medicine or Aravertica medicine. You can't dismiss thousands

1372
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,439
of years. That's something that worked. Now. Is it as

1373
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:13,560
cool as like heart transplant? No, But again, what we

1374
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,159
have today is very wonderful for heroics. But a long

1375
01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:18,880
term yeah, you know, let's look at the old things

1376
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,159
see what was working well.

1377
01:13:20,199 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: And people don't understand that everything is connected when we

1378
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,680
keep talking about that. But even the teeth are connected

1379
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,000
to the meridian lines from Chinese medicine, so people would

1380
01:13:29,039 --> 01:13:33,279
have root canoe on their One of my clients had

1381
01:13:33,279 --> 01:13:37,359
a root canal on her stomach in ovarian meridian lines,

1382
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,920
and within a few weeks she had stomach and ovarian cancer.

1383
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,119
This is when she came to me and she said, Gail,

1384
01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:44,760
you have to educate people and tell them that this

1385
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,560
is its connecting. It's a connection, and I was like, what,

1386
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,640
like just crazy stuff. And so it's all out there.

1387
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,439
There's there's teeth, meridian charts. You can look up if

1388
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,960
you have a sore tooth or you know, you can

1389
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,680
look at what vertebrae are connected to that too, what organs,

1390
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:04,159
what systems in the body. It's all there.

1391
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: We actually have a documentary on Next Levels ol TV

1392
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,920
talking specifically about Root. It's called Root cause it's a

1393
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:16,560
whole documentary about that thing. How they've now it's just

1394
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,520
now they're studying it. They're like, no, things that have

1395
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,880
to do with root, canals and things like that are

1396
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,640
being studied now. They're like, wait a minute, is there

1397
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,560
a connection here? And again, investigate it yourself. You know,

1398
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,039
there's a lot of literature and research out there about it.

1399
01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:31,520
Speaker 2: But without the Internet, like you said, without the Internet,

1400
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,560
we would have taken a lot longer to find these solutions.

1401
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,399
But now there's really no excuse to not research what's

1402
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,039
going on and what messages your body sending you. I mean,

1403
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:43,960
it's brilliant.

1404
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 1: Now tell me about It's Time. I love the name

1405
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,439
of it. By the way, the movie It's Time what

1406
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,800
caused you to kind of because that's the whole thing

1407
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,119
putting together a movie. You know, it wasn't cheap to

1408
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:58,439
put something like this together, So what caused you to

1409
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,199
put this out there? And you're really just kind of

1410
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,840
you know you it's on our platform, but you know

1411
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,720
you it's not something that you're trying to make a

1412
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,760
billion dollars with or anything like that. What was the

1413
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:07,279
cause of it?

1414
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,399
Speaker 2: Well, I just started to see people were really angry

1415
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,239
and people were not treating each other very well. And

1416
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:15,279
I you know, I know a lot of people are

1417
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,600
on antidepressants, and I know it blocks the functioning and

1418
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,720
the nervous system. It numbs people down, and so I'm

1419
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,199
seeing a lot of that, and I thought, I'm just

1420
01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:24,520
going to put out a movie. I'm going to talk

1421
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,520
about sound and light therapy. I'm going to talk about

1422
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,359
listening to your body, but I'm also going to talk

1423
01:15:28,399 --> 01:15:31,439
about being more kind. And I knew that this our

1424
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,600
USA election was coming up, and so I said, I

1425
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,359
need this out before the election, So I need to

1426
01:15:36,359 --> 01:15:39,399
put out a documentary. And I decided to start it

1427
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,319
like January, and so they gave me like nine months.

1428
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:44,920
It's kind of quick to do.

1429
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: It's quick.

1430
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I put everything else on hold. I said,

1431
01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:52,319
I'm going to do this, and I knew that I

1432
01:15:52,359 --> 01:15:55,079
didn't want some of the you know people that you've interviewed.

1433
01:15:55,079 --> 01:15:57,119
I didn't want the Greg Braden's and the Joone dispenses

1434
01:15:57,279 --> 01:15:59,199
because you know they've said what they have to say.

1435
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,800
Let me get some you know, no name people that

1436
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,199
I respect, that I've been studying and you know they've

1437
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:06,800
been my mentors. Let me bring them on to tell

1438
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,399
their story. And so we open it up with judgment

1439
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,880
is the only thing that separates us, and then we

1440
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,640
close the movie talking about doing something else of some

1441
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,800
Muhammad Ali quote. If ten percent of the people would

1442
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,239
do more with love and kindness, we could change the world.

1443
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,760
So I wanted to create that space for people to

1444
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,079
see that we're all connected, that we're all one, and

1445
01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:33,399
that we should treat each other better. And none of

1446
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,520
us is getting out alive. I don't care how much

1447
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:40,000
money you have, nobody's getting out alive right Everyone.

1448
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,079
Speaker 1: Wants to go to heaven, just not right now. Yeah.

1449
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:47,159
So it's such a beautiful film, and we also have

1450
01:16:47,399 --> 01:16:51,199
an extended interviews series as well of all of all

1451
01:16:51,239 --> 01:16:54,359
your amazing speakers on there. Now, I want to also

1452
01:16:54,399 --> 01:17:00,479
talk about your harmonic egg weird as well. Let's just

1453
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,960
throw it out there at the beginning. I mean, it

1454
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:03,720
sounds weird, and you want me to walk into an egg?

1455
01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:06,199
What is happening here? Talk to me a little bit

1456
01:17:06,199 --> 01:17:07,680
about what this thing you developed is.

1457
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: It was a channeled download, however you want to call it.

1458
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,319
I was working with the light box, but I was

1459
01:17:16,359 --> 01:17:19,239
finding that the clients were saying, well, the music sounds

1460
01:17:19,279 --> 01:17:21,960
distorted coming up through a pham pad, and the light

1461
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,039
bulbs a little cheesy. It's just painted right. And I thought, well,

1462
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:28,399
life comes from an egg. Let's just build a large

1463
01:17:28,399 --> 01:17:32,680
wooden egg. Okay. So I called some manufacturers and the

1464
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,840
one manufacturer said it's impossible. And I'm a scorpio. I'm

1465
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,800
a stallion. I'm a scorpio. So I'm pretty stubborn. And

1466
01:17:40,119 --> 01:17:41,800
if you tell me no, or you tell me I

1467
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,119
can't do something, then just get out of my way,

1468
01:17:44,319 --> 01:17:47,239
because I got to go do it now. And I said, well,

1469
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:49,119
Walt Disney said, if you could dream it, you could

1470
01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:52,279
do it. And he said, well you're not Walt Disney. Wow,

1471
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,960
So well get out of my way. And yeah, I

1472
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,880
didn't want We talked about crystals in the beginning a

1473
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,359
little bit. You know, crystals are great, but I hold

1474
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:04,239
information and energy. Wood does not. And so I created

1475
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:07,720
it made out of wood and I use it's walnut

1476
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,079
on in the inside right now, and it's the spiritual

1477
01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:13,920
properties and the way walnuts harvested and the grain. How

1478
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,600
it's so tight. It doesn't you know, it won't hold

1479
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,279
any kind of fungus or you know, viruses or anything.

1480
01:18:20,399 --> 01:18:24,239
Speaker 1: And on a side note, by the way, the walnut itself,

1481
01:18:24,359 --> 01:18:27,199
if you crack it open, it is a complete representation

1482
01:18:27,239 --> 01:18:29,239
of the brain. Yes, yes, and it actually if you

1483
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:30,479
eat it, it's actually good for.

1484
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,520
Speaker 2: You your brain. I know, crazy, right, isn't nature awesome?

1485
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:38,000
Because that's what I find in nature. I just I

1486
01:18:38,079 --> 01:18:40,640
love those kind of stories, yeah, you know. And just

1487
01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:45,520
I cut open what was it? It was one of

1488
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,159
my red peppers from my garden and it was just

1489
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:50,720
so beautiful and it just had three and like I

1490
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,039
said about the threes, and it had three little veins,

1491
01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:55,439
and I'm like, this is just so beautiful. And then

1492
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,800
the lady that talked about her dogs balls being beautiful

1493
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,880
right on that show, and you're like, I don't think

1494
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,239
anybody has talked about their dogs balls on the show,

1495
01:19:04,319 --> 01:19:06,760
but it is like a beautiful.

1496
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,239
Speaker 1: Recent, beautiful dog.

1497
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 2: It was. It was, yeah, yeah, your show is great.

1498
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

1499
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,039
Speaker 2: And so what we were we talking about Harmonica John

1500
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,680
made out of wood? Yeah, right, So I thought if

1501
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,159
people could go in and I did. I used Edgar

1502
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:29,560
Casey's consciousness, Royal Rife's consciousness with frequencies, the Oregon Box

1503
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,239
with Wilhelm Reichs. You know that consciousness Tesla, and I said,

1504
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,560
you know, let's let's use frequency vibrations, sound waves and

1505
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,920
light waves, and let's put it in one modality and

1506
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,359
let's put people in there by themselves. Claustrophobias, no problem,

1507
01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:45,119
there's a doorbell in there. They can push the door open.

1508
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,279
But get them in there to heal themselves. And I'm

1509
01:19:49,319 --> 01:19:52,520
finding that it is. It's really saved my life. It's

1510
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:53,640
been such a beautiful thing.

1511
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:58,199
Speaker 3: And we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1512
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,119
and now back to the show.

1513
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:09,239
Speaker 2: It's not from me, it's it came through me. And

1514
01:20:09,279 --> 01:20:13,720
so it's just a beautiful galactic technology that people can

1515
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:19,159
heal individually, and they're raising their vibration to connect to

1516
01:20:19,159 --> 01:20:22,439
their higher self and them seeing them take their power back.

1517
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,560
I'm seeing more kindness, I'm seeing more love. And the

1518
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:32,039
business model that I created, the brand attributes are love, integrity, reliability,

1519
01:20:32,079 --> 01:20:34,600
and community. And that's how I expect all the Ank

1520
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,239
Guardians to conduct their business with their clients. It's not

1521
01:20:38,279 --> 01:20:43,760
a franchise. It's very franchises are very patriarchal. It's a

1522
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:50,239
business model of the matriarchal, divine, feminine and the cooperation

1523
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,000
not competition. And I think that's how we can change

1524
01:20:54,039 --> 01:20:54,439
the world.

1525
01:20:55,039 --> 01:20:57,119
Speaker 1: So, yes, your business model is not this normal what

1526
01:20:57,199 --> 01:20:59,479
kind of franchise thing. It's like kind of like, you know,

1527
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,960
everyone should benefit from this, right as opposed to you know,

1528
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:04,359
having to pay a franchise fee.

1529
01:21:04,399 --> 01:21:07,279
Speaker 2: And all right, right, the pyramid with the rich person

1530
01:21:07,359 --> 01:21:09,680
at the top just doesn't work. And your shows have

1531
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,920
been talking about the flattening and a lot of your

1532
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,880
channelers are saying things are flattening, the systems are crashing,

1533
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:18,039
things are changing. So I hope this business model catches

1534
01:21:18,079 --> 01:21:22,920
on where people can share and create abundance for more

1535
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,119
than just themselves. And so that's what I want, you know,

1536
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:26,720
I want this show to come out. I want all

1537
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,199
this on our owners to be packed out, and you

1538
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:30,720
know it's creating abundance for them too.

1539
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,159
Speaker 1: And then how many centers do you have our own

1540
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:33,680
the country?

1541
01:21:34,319 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 2: Over one hundred and fifty and twelve countries.

1542
01:21:37,119 --> 01:21:39,119
Speaker 1: Twelve countries really, yeah, And.

1543
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:40,199
Speaker 2: I didn't really market this.

1544
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,039
Speaker 1: I've never I mean, yeah, it's not a mass marketed thing.

1545
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:47,239
Speaker 2: No. No, the egg finds you, and that's what I had.

1546
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:50,279
Speaker 1: Stop, don't don't use that as a marketing tool. It's

1547
01:21:50,399 --> 01:21:52,600
not going to work. You're not going to get the

1548
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,960
construction worker to come out to the The egg will

1549
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,199
find you. It's just very marking media.

1550
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, marketing. And everybody teases me about that because

1551
01:22:00,039 --> 01:22:01,680
I'm near Boulder, right, and they're like, is this like

1552
01:22:02,079 --> 01:22:08,399
Mork from Orc's Egg? And I'm like sure, yeah, yeah, exactly,

1553
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,479
So the egg will find you.

1554
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,359
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's it's it's a non evasive thing.

1555
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,640
It's something that anyone could try. And the proof is

1556
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,880
in the pudding, right, The proof is in the putting on.

1557
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,119
Anything that you study and anything you look into and

1558
01:22:23,159 --> 01:22:25,720
any of these kind of modalities. You know, some people

1559
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,159
work with iravetics, some people work with you know, Chinese

1560
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:31,119
herbs and other people work with you know, sound healing

1561
01:22:31,239 --> 01:22:35,000
or sound baths or you know, a different There's so many,

1562
01:22:35,279 --> 01:22:39,680
so many ways to heal yourself, not only emotionally, not

1563
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:45,039
only physically, but emotionally, mentally, even spiritually. How to heal traumas,

1564
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:47,800
how to heal things within yourself. But I hope that

1565
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,840
anyone listening could understand that the power is truly within you.

1566
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,720
It's just your choice whether or not you want to

1567
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:01,399
take the steps, the appropriate steps to learn enough to

1568
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,680
try or attempt to learn about how to heal yourself

1569
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,800
in all modalities in your life, all these different things.

1570
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,159
Speaker 2: Because not everybody's gonna want this. There's there's red light therapy,

1571
01:23:11,359 --> 01:23:15,239
there's NovaThor beds, there's juve, there's a new immortal chamber.

1572
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,000
I mean, all the stuff is coming out now.

1573
01:23:17,239 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 1: Therapy.

1574
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think it's so beautiful because we're

1575
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,119
not all the same galactic beings, all different, We're not

1576
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:28,079
gonna all heal with the same frequencies or modality. So

1577
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,079
I just tell people to be discerning, tune into your intuition,

1578
01:23:32,319 --> 01:23:34,760
if yours, if your stomach gets really sick when you

1579
01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:36,800
see something that's probably not for you.

1580
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: There was one thing that I forgot where I heard

1581
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,760
it must one is my one of my guests. I

1582
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,600
might be an episode that hasn't aired yet, but oh,

1583
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,159
actually no, it was in our in our wisdom from

1584
01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:52,600
beyond summit that we had with all of our channelers. Uh.

1585
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,920
There was a question asked about healing, and the the

1586
01:23:58,079 --> 01:24:05,159
speaker said, allow synchronicities to happen. Don't judge what is

1587
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,880
in front of you, feel it, have intuition about it,

1588
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,880
think about it. Put intention out into the world. So

1589
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,600
from what I've learned on this show is that when

1590
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:20,800
you ask for help out loud, it does come, maybe

1591
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,600
not at your timeline and especially not the way you

1592
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,319
think it's gonna come. But if you come truly open

1593
01:24:28,359 --> 01:24:31,199
yourself up to these ideas and open up yourself to

1594
01:24:31,239 --> 01:24:34,000
whatever comes into your life, understand that it is for

1595
01:24:34,079 --> 01:24:37,159
your better and might not look like it at that

1596
01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:39,640
narcissist coming in is at the end of the day,

1597
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,920
for your better if you deal with it in their

1598
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,600
appropriate way to learn those lessons, but in the sense

1599
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,079
of healing, open yourself up to the intention, ask for help,

1600
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,039
and the egg will find you. Now I'm joking. But

1601
01:24:51,279 --> 01:24:56,000
whatever thing that will help you heal, open yourself up

1602
01:24:56,039 --> 01:24:58,840
to finding it. And it might just be a podcast episode,

1603
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,199
it might just be watching something on a platform. It

1604
01:25:02,279 --> 01:25:03,680
might just be a book that you find at a

1605
01:25:04,399 --> 01:25:06,960
library or at a bookstore, if they're still leaving around

1606
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,039
these kind of things, because you have to open yourself

1607
01:25:11,159 --> 01:25:12,960
up to it. I mean, and I've said this a

1608
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,800
thousand times on the show, this makes no sense to me. Yeah,

1609
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,840
that I'm here doing this in this world talking to

1610
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,720
you about this kind of stuff. If I would have

1611
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,640
been told this five years ago, I said, this is insane.

1612
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,720
But I've opened myself up to the synchronicities of the

1613
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,640
universe kind of guiding me through my life. And when

1614
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,600
I let go of those rains a bit, still have

1615
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,520
responsibility for yourself. When I let go of those rains,

1616
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,720
life just seemed to flow a lot better. So I

1617
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,840
think would you agree with in regards to the intention

1618
01:25:40,079 --> 01:25:42,720
of trying to heal yourself? Put it out. So I'm

1619
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,039
in pain. I need help. Get me the right book,

1620
01:25:45,079 --> 01:25:47,199
get me the right show, get me the right information,

1621
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,760
connect me to the right person who will teach me

1622
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,600
or help me get healed. Does that make sense.

1623
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,359
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, you just got to let

1624
01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:57,640
things flow. I had a mentor of mine. I was

1625
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,920
real antsy at a seminar one time, and I was like,

1626
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:02,000
I don't want to listen to another speaker, and I

1627
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:05,279
get real, you know my start, you know, just jutery,

1628
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,119
and I'm like, I gotta get up, I gotta move.

1629
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,920
And he noticed this, so he passes me a piece

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of paper. I open it up and it says, l

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I f E. Let it flow effortlessly. And I had

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a bracelet made that stamped let it flow effortlessly. And

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that's what you just open yourself up. You ask and

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it might be not in your timing, but it never is.

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But that's why you were not in charge of when

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the people say, we're not in charge of the howeah

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yeah okay, and so we just ask and then we

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let it unfold. I used to have one of those

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successories things on my desk because I manage like one

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hundred and twenty people in project management. Some people watch

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things happen, some people make things happen. Some people wonder

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what happened. And I threw that thing away because I

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made my first marriage happen. I made my second marriage happen.

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And now I should have said, well, I wonder what happened, right,

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because it should have never been if I was letting

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things flow and I was paying attention to all the

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roadblocks and how how much struggle I was having to

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get into these relationships and I just let it flow.

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But that was my lesson.

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Speaker 1: But that was and now you can talk about it

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because you went through it. We can't talk about it

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until you go through it. Really, yeah, yeah really? Uh Now, Gail,

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I'm gonna ask a few questions. Ask, well, my guests,

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what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

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Speaker 2: Living a fulfilled life is not having a schedule, not

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having to worry about anything, and just letting things flow.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful question, let it letting, letting you flow. If you

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had a chance to go back in time and talk

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to little Gil, what advice would you give her?

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Speaker 2: Be brave, be strong, listen to your intuition and say

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yes to life.

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Speaker 1: How do you define God or source?

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Speaker 2: And I knew You're gonna ask me these questions now

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I'm like, oh my god, yeah, I'm on the spot.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think you know I am God, You our God.

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Everything is God. So I'm going to answer it that way.

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Speaker 1: What is love?

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Speaker 2: Love is the highest vibration. And I believe, like we

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talked about earlier, disease doesn't live in love. Love is

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just the highest vibration.

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Speaker 1: Is that why chicken soup works so well? Because of

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the love and intention of the grandmother or mother making it.

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Speaker 2: It could be did you ever eat something and you

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felt angry after you ate it?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Most fast food because the people prepare me.

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Speaker 2: Right, angry right, and so I feel that that. You know,

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my boyfriend makes me five days a week and then

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he makes me leftovers. But there's so much love. He's

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like a little Mexican grandmother. He's hilarious and there's so

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much love in that. It's just nourishing. It just feeds

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my soul.

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Speaker 1: There's a there's a restaurant here in Austin. Oh God,

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I forgot the name of it, but it's it's kind

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of like this. It's not communal, but it's basically you

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have one. They just whatever they have for lunch is

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what you're eating. Whatever you have for dinner is what

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you're eating. And that's it. And it's all organic and

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clean and organize. And you walk into this area sho

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is a shahnous I think it might be shed news.

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And you walk into this area and you feel the

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energy of the space already, and there's like, you know,

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the metaphysical store there, and there's like a juice bar there,

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and it's like this whole like little community. But in

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the back it's this restaurant and the food. You could

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just feel the energy of the food. You can taste it.

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It's like, you know, and when you go to a

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let's say a fine dining restaurant, the effort, the energy,

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the attention and the intention of the food. The chef

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focused so much on making sure that that was there.

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People feel that taste it. It's so powerful.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of.

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Speaker 2: I guess the ultimate purpose on life for me is

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to experience everything. When I played softball for thirty years

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and so I feel like the end of my life,

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I'm sliding into home base. I am safe. I've done

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everything I could possibly do in this lifetime. And like

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I said, you know, when I told my friends up

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there in the galactic take another you know, drink a

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coffee and we'll see you in one hundred years. I'm

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going to Earth when I'm done. That's you know. I

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want to experience everything, all the emotions, everything, and then

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just slide into home base safe you're done.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

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and now back to the show beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Now, where can people find out more about you and

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01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,159
your centers and everything you're doing?

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01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 2: Harmonicag dot com and that's where everything is, all the locations.

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01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,760
Just search for a location and you'll find it, hopefully

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01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,279
one near you, and then it's time. Dot Love is

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01:30:49,319 --> 01:30:51,800
the film, and that's why what I would like to get.

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01:30:52,119 --> 01:30:53,880
My goal is to get a million people to watch it.

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I'm not charging anything. You know, it'll be on your platform,

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It'll be everywhere, YouTube, Rumble Time, do Love. I just

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01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,600
would like to see a million people watch it and

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do one more thing with love and kindness.

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Speaker 1: Well, they'll definitely be able to watch it on next

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levels so old TV, and I hope that this episode

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helps drive some more people to watch it wherever they

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01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,880
decide to watch it, because it's a message that need

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to get out there. So and do you have any

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party messages for the audience.

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Speaker 2: I would say, because we talked about story, I'm going

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to say, don't be your story. Change, rise above your story,

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know that you're not your story, You're a wonderful, awesome being,

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and learn to love yourself beautifully.

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Speaker 1: Said gil Gail. It's been such a pleasure meeting you

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and having this conversation. And thank you for putting everything

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out in the world that you're doing, especially this movie

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01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,399
and the work that you do. So I appreciate you

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helping awaken this planet.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, you two.

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01:31:52,079 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll

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