1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,359 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to game As Mornings with Me Jeff Greb, 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,320 your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for 3 00:00:15,359 --> 00:00:17,559 tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,039 the latest with GTA six and more big time game 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,039 creators come out in defensive physical games. It's gonna be 6 00:00:24,039 --> 00:00:26,600 a good one because we have Rachel Kazer on the show. Rachel, 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,359 how are you doing? 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,719 Speaker 2: Hi, Jeff, I have COVID. Oh no, I tested positive 9 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:34,079 for COVID last week. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,119 Speaker 3: How's how's it regardless? You sound all right? Are you recovering? 11 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:41,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the I'm on the mend uh. For 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,759 the most part, it's just it's just down to a 13 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:45,439 little bitty bitty cough that right here that won't leave 14 00:00:45,439 --> 00:00:49,119 me alone. But last I was telling jan this last week, 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,039 it was getting so bad that even Dean Takahashi was 16 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:53,960 telling me to stop working and go take a rest. 17 00:00:54,159 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Then then then you know it's bad, like when 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,240 he against like empathizing and he's like, oh no, all right. 19 00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: I thought it was just like a summer cold like 20 00:01:01,679 --> 00:01:04,079 I had. I just had a cough, and then I 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,400 was having really bad headaches, and then the coffee was 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,560 getting worse, and everyone's like, hey, can you take a 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,000 COVID test? And I was like, I haven't taken a 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,640 COVID test in like three years. 25 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: So there's been COVID here in fifty years. Yeah, exactly, Yeah. 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: But unfortunately I think I got it at the gym. 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Like not a flex literal or figurative, but everyone is 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,400 according to the to my friend at the gym, everyone 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,920 is coming back from summer trips, summer vacations, and they're 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,359 bringing all the germs with them. 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,799 Speaker 3: Ah, that makes sense. 32 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone wants to get back into the gym after 33 00:01:35,359 --> 00:01:38,719 gorgeon on vacation and then they're attacking you with that. 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,640 So yeah, the COVID could still catch the kzer beam. 35 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:43,879 That's the bad news. 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All right, we have a lot to get into, 95 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,959 so let's start the morning Mess with Grand Theft Auto 96 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,759 six marketing may finally ramp back up in August. 97 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: This is from Eddie McCoo at GameSpot. 98 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: According to a reputable insider, new information about Rockstar's GTA 99 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,879 six could arrive very soon. Nathan Hate, who has accurately 100 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,680 reported unannounced details about upcoming games before, recently said he 101 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,959 expects to see a fair bit of GTA six in August. 102 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:42,319 He went on to push back against the narrative that 103 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:45,120 just because Rockstar has not marketed GTA six much so 104 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,959 far with just a few months to go before launch, 105 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,040 that there is some cause for concern. They have a 106 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,480 marketing plan and they are sticking to that. No reason 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,879 for concern, he said, adding that the game is not 108 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,279 delayed and we'll launch on time on November nineteenth. Let's 109 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:02,319 let's pause there real quick, Rachel, Rachel, We're not like, 110 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:04,560 is anyone still thinking this game might not come out? 111 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,759 I guess there is always that possibility that there could 112 00:05:06,759 --> 00:05:09,199 be a delay. I've moved past that, I think after 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,240 they started really going hard on the pre orders. The 114 00:05:13,319 --> 00:05:16,240 idea that they haven't shown us much more is not 115 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:18,800 really registering with me on that front of like, oh, 116 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,879 that means there could be a delay. To me, it's 117 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,600 always they're just showing us what they think they have to. 118 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,879 They don't have to show us anything else. And people 119 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,839 are still going to buy this game in absolute droves, right. 120 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've already bought the game in absolute droves. And yeah, 121 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,680 I kind of think maybe Take two is like investing, Like, 122 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:40,480 I know, nothing is coming to mind at the moment, 123 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,639 but I'm sure Take two has other ip that are 124 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,439 going out in the meantime that I'm sure they want 125 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,120 to invest in before GTA six comes along and blitzes 126 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,040 the entire market the. 127 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: Way, right, they have to keep that in mind as well. 128 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they want to make money. They want 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,480 to make money for their their quarters before GTA six launches. 130 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:02,120 So it wouldn't surprise me if they're investing what uh 131 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:05,199 you know, what scraps they can in their other IP 132 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,199 before GTA because they know they don't have to have 133 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,000 a long tail on the GTA six marketing. They can 134 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,160 just drop a trailer in the middle of August and 135 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:14,319 everyone will eat it up. 136 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: I'll eat it up. 137 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,319 Speaker 2: I'm not being hypocritical. I'll eat it up. 138 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 139 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,319 Speaker 1: Is that your expectation We're going to get a trailer 140 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,879 in August? Because that's what That's what this seems to 141 00:06:20,879 --> 00:06:21,439 imply to me. 142 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,399 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's that's what I've heard. And I don't 143 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:28,240 have like insider as insider resources like like Nate the 144 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Hate does, I think, but I that's that's what I've heard, 145 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:33,519 is that when they say summer they mean August. 146 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 147 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard way back in like March and April, like, oh, 148 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,000 things would start in July, and then the pre order 149 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,160 started in very very late June, and then there was 150 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:44,399 no there's been nothing else in July. So I'm like, Okay, 151 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,519 what's did that? Did that just mean the pre order thing? 152 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,839 Are you gonna get like a big TV marketing campaign? 153 00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:54,759 And to be fair, like they've explicitly said like they're 154 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:57,920 going to spend less money on marketing on traditional over 155 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,279 the air television and stuff like that. So this is 156 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,600 probably gonna manifest in a slightly different way. I don't 157 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:06,399 think that means we don't get a trailer, although they 158 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:08,959 don't need one, Like I feel like they don't need one. 159 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:11,319 They don't need to let people review this game. They 160 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:13,639 don't need to do anything. I still think I still 161 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,120 think they will. I think they'll probably let people do this. 162 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Think they will have another trailer. 163 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they will definitely have a I think 164 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,360 I think they are probably maybe going to invest a 165 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:28,439 little bit more in creators, like creator lead marketing before 166 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,759 this comes out. That's just that's not based in any 167 00:07:30,839 --> 00:07:34,279 like knowledge I have. That's just a subposition. But I 168 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:36,920 think Take two knows enough about the market and knows 169 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,160 enough about what side their bread's buttered on that they're 170 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,639 going to like, Okay, let's go after the big shots 171 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,800 in the GTA community to you know, to get to 172 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:46,759 get a little bit of like boots on the ground 173 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,000 or knut boots in their grassroots publicity. 174 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:53,399 Speaker 1: Take two as kind of intimated previously that that the 175 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:57,399 marketing campaign would begin in summer. You know, pre orders 176 00:07:57,399 --> 00:07:59,839 have been opened since June twenty fifth. It doesn't seem 177 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:01,759 like it's been slow at all. It seems like people 178 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:04,360 have been pre ordering this game in quite a huge 179 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,240 amount of the game is eighty dollars. 180 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so far, nothing to. 181 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,079 Speaker 1: Me indicates that there's any reason to expect this game 182 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,439 won't be as big as everyone is expecting. Like it 183 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,439 seems like everything is just kind of lining up that way. Now, 184 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:21,959 we haven't seen anyone play this video game. 185 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,079 Speaker 3: We have not seen that yet. Do you think the 186 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:28,560 next trailer is not legally Yeah, exactly right. 187 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:32,399 Speaker 1: Yes, we've seen some leaks and stuff, seen some like 188 00:08:32,519 --> 00:08:37,120 hacks actually, But like when that trailer, that first trailer 189 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,159 does come out and or the first trailer, next trailer, 190 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,320 when that next trailer does come out, will it be 191 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:45,039 like a full on gameplay trailer or do they just continue. 192 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,519 Speaker 3: Kind of doing what they've been doing and like setting 193 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,240 up the world? 194 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: When did the I mean I think in this case, 195 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:53,799 I think that they'll follow the playbook that they had 196 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,440 for GTA five. I don't know when the GT five 197 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,480 gameplay trailer came out. I know they I know they 198 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:03,320 had one before the game launched in the early in 199 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,960 the early marketing stage. I know they put out a 200 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,879 gameplay trailer, but I don't remember if it was before 201 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,240 or after they released a bunch of cinematic trailers. 202 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, and then you know, and it's been god, 203 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,360 how long since that game? 204 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,039 Speaker 3: What did they do? What did they do for? 205 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,159 Speaker 2: I played it? I first played it. I first played 206 00:09:17,159 --> 00:09:19,200 it on the Xbox three sixty that's how long. 207 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: It's Yes, God, that's crazy, Oh my god. 208 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,639 Speaker 2: I think they I think for Red Dead Redemption two, 209 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,600 they released a gameplay trailer I want to say, after 210 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:32,679 they released like at least three cinematic trailers. 211 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it was pretty late, and it was 212 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,399 like in the in like the quarter before the. 213 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: Sprinkle They sprinkle like bits of gameplay in the cinematic trailers, 214 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:42,639 but not enough for it to be a you know, 215 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,519 gameplay trailer. 216 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah. 217 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: I think they will have some gameplay, but I think 218 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:50,960 it'll be limited. I think it'll be sort of a yes, 219 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,840 interspersed between more world of setting stuff and like the 220 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,159 the cut scenes, which I think they believe shows off 221 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,120 best in in advertisements. And then and again, like what 222 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:06,159 do they get out of letting people see more of 223 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,120 this game? Because it's not like the people who are 224 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,879 going to show up to buy this game on day one, 225 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,840 they don't need to see anything. They were going to 226 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,480 buy its sight unseen and then if there are people 227 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:18,919 waiting on the sideline, well they were probably not going 228 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,799 to get it day one, but once the game's out 229 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:23,480 there and the hype is inescapable, then that could sort 230 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,039 of carry it through. I bet, I bet that's what 231 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:29,879 they're mostly thinking here, although who knows that next trailer 232 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:31,720 could come out and be like seven minutes of nothing 233 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:32,279 but gameplay. 234 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,279 Speaker 3: I could be completely wrong, but I. 235 00:10:34,279 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: Mean it's I'm trying to get in the head of 236 00:10:36,639 --> 00:10:39,799 the marketing people here, like what would yeah, like, what 237 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:42,200 do they need to do? Like what is the cadence 238 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,039 that they need to do? And I think right now, 239 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,480 because everyone is everyone is so just chomping at the 240 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,440 bit for GTAs for more news on GTA six. And 241 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,360 by the way, regarding the delay, I still occasionally see 242 00:10:55,399 --> 00:10:58,840 like these schmucks on TikTok saying something like, hey, GTA 243 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,039 six has been delayed purely either because they're rage baiting 244 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,200 and you know, courting views from you know, just people 245 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,519 being like what GTA six is delayed, or because they 246 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,240 are so pessimistic that they believe there's no shot that 247 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,480 two will release the or that rock Star will release 248 00:11:15,519 --> 00:11:17,519 the game in twenty twenty six. 249 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: That's that's fun. You always got to appreciate the people 250 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,519 out there just running that hustle to ruin everyone else 251 00:11:23,879 --> 00:11:26,279 and just to say things that are absolutely not true. 252 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,799 Will points out they always do the narrated trailer explaining systems, 253 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:33,039 and I'm remembering that now for a dead Redemption two. 254 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:37,120 So okay, I could very easily see that, like here's 255 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:40,360 the new stuff. You know, maybe that comes out closer 256 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:42,639 to launch or whatever, but yes, I guess I would 257 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:44,639 expect that now when I kind of remember that's the 258 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:48,000 way they've done it, and I'm curious to see what 259 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:49,799 the new systems are going to be. I'm curious to see, 260 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,639 like how they try to different differentiate this game, because 261 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,639 right now it feels like bigger. It's bigger and more, 262 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,759 And yeah, I mean, I think this is still the 263 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:01,679 one game in one developed that when they say bigger 264 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:05,000 and more, that is a back of the box bullet points. 265 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,279 Still I think other ones it's like, yeah, I mean, 266 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:08,919 you guys are just gonna fill this more with more 267 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:09,679 of the same crap. 268 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 3: And maybe that's what's gonna happen here as well. But 269 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:12,440 I still think. 270 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: If you heard that from you be soft, you'd be like, 271 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,960 ugh right, you hear it from Rockstar and you're like, oh, 272 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,720 that sounds great. 273 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to like see what that means 274 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,600 for rock Stars. We know that they are going to 275 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:25,679 not hold back on spending the required money to really 276 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,200 fill that out. So yeah, hey, August, all right, we'll 277 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,120 find out more about this game. I'm like halfway between 278 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,639 getting excited and still being annoyed about like, ah, man, 279 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,759 this game takes up so much of the oxygen in 280 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:39,720 the room. But at this point we're close enough. November 281 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:42,360 is not like some far off land. It's now something 282 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:46,039 I can imagine in my head. All right, let's let's 283 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,279 play this game, see what it's all about, and I'm 284 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:49,879 gonna start getting pretty excited about it. 285 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: I'm excited because it feels like there's a lot of 286 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,159 nostalgia there for me personally. So yeah, like I said, 287 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:01,679 I play GTAs five back on the Xbox three sixty 288 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,759 and I remember I wasn't really allowed to play GTA 289 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,279 until like four, and then I then I played that 290 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,960 on I think one of my cousins with on one 291 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,159 of their systems. So then so GTA five was kind 292 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:18,879 of like my first big girl Grand Theft Auto. So yeah, 293 00:13:19,039 --> 00:13:22,399 I've definitely gi Yeah, there is some mystery there. 294 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm the nostalgia is definitely for me, like it's a 295 00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:27,720 whole other part of my life. And I've told the 296 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,720 story before about like going to a friend's house and 297 00:13:29,799 --> 00:13:32,600 like not going basically like just living at this friend's 298 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,799 house and they had Grand Theft Auto three and we'd 299 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:37,480 always have people over every night. It's Ohio, there's like 300 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:41,279 just a constant house party happening and just passing the 301 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:43,399 controller back and forth and playing Grand Theft Auto three 302 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,919 for for weeks at a time, and it's like, yeah, 303 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,320 that to me, I think that was a lot of power. 304 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,039 A lot of people experienced that game, and that's how 305 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,639 I still want to experience these games. I want to 306 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,000 kind of sit down and have fun. And that's what's 307 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:55,600 great about streaming now you can kind of have that 308 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:56,279 same feeling. 309 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,759 Speaker 3: All right, So let's keep going here. 310 00:13:58,799 --> 00:14:01,919 Speaker 1: Final Fantasy seven revel director says he's working on arranging 311 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,000 some kind of physical edition, but can't confirm the details. 312 00:14:06,039 --> 00:14:08,799 This is from Chris Scullion at VGC, the director of 313 00:14:08,799 --> 00:14:10,360 Final Fantasy seven Revelation. 314 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,279 Speaker 3: The third Entry in. 315 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,399 Speaker 1: The Final Fantasy seven remake, says talks are in progress 316 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,000 for a physical release of the game, he just can't 317 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,480 provide details on what that would entail yet. While Sony 318 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:24,200 has confirmed that it will stop making discs for new 319 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,279 PlayStation games as of January twenty eighth, Rockstar's decision to 320 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,440 release Grand Theft Out of Six as a code in 321 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,120 a box has led to some wondering whether other major 322 00:14:34,159 --> 00:14:38,399 publishers will follow suit. Speaking at the Final Fantasy fourteen 323 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,440 fan Festival in Berlin, Final Fantasy seven Revelation director n 324 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Aoki Hamagucci told games Radar he was working on securing 325 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:49,919 a physical release of the game, but couldn't confirm exactly 326 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 what that would entail. We're still having internal discussions on 327 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,320 what at the exact SKEW product lineup is going to 328 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,759 be for Revelation, so I can't say anything particularly definitive 329 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,360 at this point in time, but I am working to 330 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,480 make the arrangements to allow us to have some kind 331 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:07,200 of physical edition. Hamakuchi explain that every company has its 332 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,440 own terms regarding physical releases, and this is currently what's 333 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,000 being discussed with platform holders. Obviously, say if you're talking 334 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,919 to Nintendo there's considerations about the storage limits and on 335 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,600 key cards and things like that, and then other platforms 336 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,200 about how much you can put onto a disc. Each 337 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,000 platform and first party have their own specific rules and 338 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,559 regulations that we need to take into account. He does 339 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,840 go on later in the interview to say it would 340 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:35,879 be a shame if physical release is stopped, even though 341 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:38,519 consumer trends suggest it maybe heading in that direction at 342 00:15:38,559 --> 00:15:41,440 some point. I do feel, as a developer and as 343 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,240 a fan that the general trend is for things to 344 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:48,679 shift away from physical towards downloadable games. That's obviously talking 345 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,080 about the trend personally here at something like FanFest or 346 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,759 community events for games that I've worked on. I really 347 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:58,120 think that people bringing up things asking for autographs. 348 00:15:58,159 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: I think that's lovely. 349 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a wonderful culture and it would be 350 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,519 a shame to lose that. I want that to remain. Basically, 351 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:06,879 he still wants to be able to sign the discs. Yeah, 352 00:16:06,919 --> 00:16:10,159 I okay, Yeah, we should have been expecting a physical 353 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,120 edition of Final Fantasy seven Revelation. 354 00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:14,519 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it's coming out. It's coming out on 355 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,320 twenty twenty seven, and they're not stopping releasing physical discs. 356 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,320 Until twenty twenty eight. 357 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,879 Speaker 3: January twenty twenty eight, was it, Yes, ten. 358 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,559 Speaker 2: Twenty eight, that's what they said. So yeah, I mean 359 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,279 that's not a surprise, I guess, but you. 360 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: Would hope so, right. 361 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:27,879 Speaker 1: But I mean the fact that we're clarifying, I guess 362 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:29,679 as a reminder of just where we're at with this 363 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:33,360 still where it's like people I think people are expecting 364 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,080 more of these companies to not just to be like well, 365 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,840 PlayStation's stopping discs, but to be like rock Stars, not 366 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:39,799 putting Grand Theft Auto six out on a disc. 367 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: Who's the next company that is going to follow suit? 368 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,159 Speaker 1: And you know, I think there's still this wait and 369 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,399 see for the people in the industry that maybe want 370 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:50,720 things to go that way faster of like we kind 371 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,000 of have to wait and see what this means for 372 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:52,919 Grand Theft Auto six. 373 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: It's probably not going to mean. 374 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: Much they're but I think if you if you are, 375 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,360 if you're not Take two and you're not Rockstar, are you, 376 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,879 probably you're probably right to not even be considering this yet. 377 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:06,279 Speaker 3: And then there is this contingency. 378 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: Of like people inside of these studios like Hamaguchi, who right, 379 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,240 uh no, I really like this still and I'm making 380 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:14,440 the efforts personally to make sure that we can have 381 00:17:14,519 --> 00:17:17,880 the best physical versions, or at least, you know, respectable 382 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,920 phys physical versions of these games out on all platforms. 383 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,880 But I think he does bring up an interesting point 384 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,400 of like some of the headaches involved with trying to 385 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,359 get a game like this out on physical media, of like, yeah, 386 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,799 it's not just all right, we were done with the game, 387 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,119 print it onto disc and everyone can go home. It's like, okay, 388 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:38,240 how much space do we have on the PlayStation version? 389 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,680 All right, that's pretty good. The Xbox version is gonna 390 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,240 have a little bit less space that disc. Can we 391 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,880 actually fit the whole game on there? So what are 392 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,880 we actually going to include? What are we gonna make downloadable? 393 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,240 And then on the switch, if we do try to 394 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:54,079 include some stuff on the physical card, you're still gonna 395 00:17:54,079 --> 00:17:55,960 have to download stuff, and then that's gonna cost us 396 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,279 a ton of money to put it on this sixty 397 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:01,079 four gigabyte card that is way more expensive than their disc. 398 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,319 So then do we put it on the game key card? 399 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,640 People are gonna still hate that and not want to 400 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,119 buy that. But you know, we kind of explained before 401 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,920 that it helps with our technology actually, so we want 402 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,480 you to install the game. Anyhow, there's all of these 403 00:18:13,519 --> 00:18:16,359 headaches and hoops to walk through and sort of challenges 404 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,240 to overcome, and you could see you can begin to 405 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,559 see why these companies are like, let's get past this ship. 406 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: We hate these discs. 407 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, I don't know, you kind of 408 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,720 feel like every every business, every industry has stuff that 409 00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:30,279 causes headaches. Just deal with it because this is kind 410 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:31,359 of still something that we need. 411 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the way companies are kind 412 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,000 of rationalizing it is that I think they're of the 413 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:41,359 mindset that, you know, the people, even no matter how 414 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,839 vocal gamers are about liking physical media, if they don't 415 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,400 actually buy physical media, then they're then you know, talk 416 00:18:49,519 --> 00:18:52,880 is cheap. So I I and I can understand that 417 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,200 from a business perspective, but I also understand it from 418 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,119 the consumer perspective of well, if it's digital, then it 419 00:18:58,319 --> 00:19:01,640 I have no like owner ship over this item. I 420 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,279 don't have any there. It can be taken away from 421 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:07,200 me at any time, which is another like pain point 422 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:11,640 for the consumer that we've talked about before. And yeah, 423 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,720 I can I can see where there's a disconnect there, 424 00:19:13,759 --> 00:19:16,400 But I what I think is probably going to happen 425 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,160 is that even if PlayStation doesn't put out a you know, 426 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,799 a PlayStation that supports to physical media, somebody will, you know, 427 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,200 if not Sony, then somebody will make a USB attachment, 428 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,200 a USB disc drive attachment, and they'll start putting out 429 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,200 like special edition discs that cost like seven hundred dollars 430 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:38,160 or something and come with a bunch of like come 431 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,519 with a statuet or something like in the good old days. 432 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like I hope we can get to 433 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:44,960 that point. That would be nice because I mean that 434 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,680 stuff would still have to work with Sony's authentication and 435 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,839 and DRM stuff, but it's like, okay, yeah, then then 436 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,839 Sony just give the like work with limited run games 437 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:58,000 and all these other companies that print stuff to like 438 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:00,400 let them go out there and find a parttner that 439 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,799 can produce the discs that can then be authenticated and 440 00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:05,559 just like make sure that they still have a pathway 441 00:20:05,599 --> 00:20:07,480 to do that, because the DRM is going to be 442 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,960 the problem with that side of things. And if so, 443 00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:12,519 if Sony just says no or says this isn't worth 444 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:15,480 our time, it won't happen at all. Which was like 445 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,200 like I think it's the position that most people assume 446 00:20:18,279 --> 00:20:21,319 Sony is taking right now, because when they brought up 447 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,400 getting rid of disks, there was no mention of and 448 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,279 here's how your discs are going to work in the 449 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:27,599 future that you already own. 450 00:20:28,039 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: It's right, that is still a big question mark. 451 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: And I think the fact that it's a big question 452 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,839 mark most people assume the worst case scenario, and I 453 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:34,559 think that's fair. 454 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's completely fair. I totally understand that. That's why. 455 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,839 That's why I was kind of thinking. And by the way, 456 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:41,839 when I say a third party, I'm not suggesting somebody 457 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,079 is going to do it like illegally or something like that. 458 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,079 What I mean is that I think I think Sony 459 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:48,640 would probably be especially okay with it if another company 460 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,680 underwrote the costs. 461 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:52,759 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, Yes, that that would have to be the case. 462 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: So but whether or not they're going to like like, 463 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,160 let people use. 464 00:20:57,079 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: That DRM, that'll be the big question. So wait to see, right. 465 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,799 Splatoon Raiders launches huge in Japan. 466 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,279 Speaker 1: Splatoon Raiders opened with an estimated four hundred and seventy 467 00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:12,319 four thousand, six hundred and eighty four copies sold, and 468 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,279 that's just physical. 469 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: In Japan alone. 470 00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:18,599 Speaker 1: In its first week that ended July twenty six, it 471 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,039 was by far the week's biggest release. 472 00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: We've kind of had this story a. 473 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,799 Speaker 1: Bunch of times now with these Nintendo these smaller Nintendo games, 474 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:27,759 where it's like, hey, what are the big Nintendo games. Well, 475 00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:30,559 it turns out they were the friends we made along 476 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:33,960 the way in Rhythm Heaven Groove and Tomodachi Life. And 477 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:38,079 this so Splatoon Raiders at nearly five hundred thousand copies 478 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:41,880 sold in a week, puts it right behind Rhythm Heaven Groove, 479 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,599 which sold another around eighty thousand copies in a week. 480 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:48,079 That's up to six hundred and seventy five thousand copies total. Again, 481 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,200 this is all just physical and just Japan, and Tomodachi 482 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:54,960 Life is now at one point five million lifetime, just 483 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,440 physical and in Japan only. So yeah, very well done 484 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:05,039 over there, Splatoon Raiders. Obviously, we know Splatoon hugely popular 485 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,400 in Japan, you know worldwide it is it has this 486 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,839 you know, grand appeal. 487 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: And we also saw like a metacritic I think I 488 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,759 talked about on the show yesterday. Rachel. 489 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: You see this where it's in the top ten for 490 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,039 the highest rated user score ever on Metacritic. 491 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,839 Speaker 3: I mean fans are showing us yeah. 492 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: It's a good premise. I'm I mean when I see 493 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,240 those numbers, all I'm like is yay, I'm happy for 494 00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:33,759 them because that's a that's that's just a that's a 495 00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:36,559 fun game to be to be, to be a good seller. 496 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,319 I'm I feel like the market is proving it is 497 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,880 proving that it has good taste there. 498 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely, it's it is notable. 499 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,039 Speaker 1: It's like every it feels like every time one of 500 00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:51,000 these fifty dollars Nintendo games launch in the last several months, 501 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:54,480 especially this summer, they are finding an audience in Japan, 502 00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:57,799 and that audience is buying around a half million physical 503 00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:00,279 copies in that first week. And then you compair of 504 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:04,319 that to like that Piscatella a little factoid about the 505 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,559 United States where it's like there's only like seven games 506 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:09,400 that have sold more than one hundred thousand copies. I 507 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,640 might be wrong about those specific numbers everybody, but it's 508 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,759 something along those lines. 509 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: This year. 510 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, okay, is that just like Japan 511 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:18,920 just into physical games? 512 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 3: Morees? 513 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: Are they just getting hit like more square in the 514 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000 target by the games that are launching on switch to 515 00:23:24,039 --> 00:23:25,519 in this moment does feel like it's a little bit 516 00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:25,759 of that. 517 00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a little bit of both. Honestly. 518 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that when I look at this, it's like, oh, 519 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,720 I don't think Nintendo is going to get rid of 520 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,599 of a physical anytime soon. I think that they are 521 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:40,720 happy to continue serving that audience. And they really, you know, 522 00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:44,119 the fact that they did not give into like going 523 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,000 all crazy with free to play stuff when that was 524 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:50,640 like a first first becoming a thing, and loot boxes 525 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,920 and all this other stuff, and it's like, obviously Nintendo's 526 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,880 not going to do that, And I don't think it 527 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,839 was always obvious, but the fact that they have usually 528 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,319 like avoided these trends and kept just doing stuff the 529 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,519 Nintendo way do just kind of say to me they 530 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,319 will keep doing that into the future, because I think 531 00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:09,279 they just like, whatever the rest of the noise that 532 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,160 is happening in the industry is kind of has nothing 533 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,680 to do with us. We're gonna just keep releasing games 534 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,240 our way, and we have an audience, and that audience 535 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,359 keeps showing up, and it feels like, if anything, that 536 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,599 audience keeps growing, and now they're hitting like probably like 537 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,960 multiple generations of people who are into Splatoon in Japan 538 00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:31,640 and and and then like globally we show up for 539 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,359 these games as well, Right, Yeah, I think we do. 540 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,799 Speaker 2: I think I think Nintendo still like primarily targets a 541 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Japanese audience and everyone else just kind of falls in line. 542 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,200 And I think that's that's that seems to be pretty smart. Yeah, work, Yeah, 543 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:48,079 I mean they're not. They're not courting us, like as 544 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:50,960 in you and me, the you know JOQ American gamer. 545 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: Don't. 546 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:54,799 Speaker 2: They don't. They're not courting us. They know that, you know, 547 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,240 we grew up with their products. We're gonna buy them, 548 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,920 you know, regardless. So yeah, I don't, I don't. I 549 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,480 think I don't think they are gonna have a problem 550 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:09,400 with like, you know, the sales of physical media dropping off, 551 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,480 because they they know what their audience wants and clearly 552 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,640 clearly this is a strategy that's paying off for them. 553 00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: All right. 554 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just get some breaking news about NVD GPU prices. 555 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,559 We're gonna, uh, we're gonna take a break and when 556 00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:25,599 we come back, we'll hit that and the rest of 557 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,400 the headlines. A bunch of fun stuff happening in this 558 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,279 industry constantly. Uh, if you want to skip out on 559 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,440 these ad messages, you can do so. We put up 560 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240 ad free versions of the show for premium users. Still 561 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,960 go to giant bomb dot com slash join and you 562 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,720 can get them there. 563 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: We will be right back. 564 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,839 Speaker 2: Okay, we pull up the news. 565 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: All right, we are back. It's Game mess Mornings. I'm 566 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:55,960 Jeff Grubb. That's Rachel Kaserbeam Kaser. We are gonna keep 567 00:25:56,039 --> 00:26:00,279 going here with the headlines. As I mentioned before the break, Yeah, 568 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:04,200 the hardware price crisis seems to continue to spread and 569 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,160 grow in Nvidia is reportedly imposing another major price increase 570 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,480 on the GPU and memory packages it sells to graphics 571 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:13,599 cards manufacturers. 572 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, they may. 573 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: Make the chips and they send this off to I 574 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,960 was gonna say EVGA, but I think they specifically stopped 575 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,839 making GPUs because they saw this coming. Taiwan's Economic Daily 576 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,799 News puts the increase at twenty to thirty percent, potentially 577 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,920 making this in Vidia's third significant pricing adjustment of twenty 578 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,559 twenty six. 579 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,839 Speaker 3: Nvidia has not announced that. 580 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,759 Speaker 1: Every g Force card's retail price will immediately rise by 581 00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:39,400 thirty percent, so the reported increase applies to the bundled 582 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,880 GPU gets purchased by board partners such as as MSI 583 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,880 and Gigabyte. So the expectation here should be that like 584 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,039 those companies therefore will have to raise the prices on 585 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,839 their own, separate. 586 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,839 Speaker 3: From what Nvidia is selling to them. 587 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: We're pointing out that in Vidia is not the only 588 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,599 one raising the price of chips in this moment. Qualcomm 589 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,519 in firms double digit increases in beginning September first for 590 00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:08,960 its mobile chips, so across the board and every aspect. Uh, 591 00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:12,319 you know, RAM and Storage are raising costs, and especially 592 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,599 RAM when it comes to this stuff. 593 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean we were already paying a lot. 594 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,519 Speaker 1: I think we saw several price increases already for GPUs, 595 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,839 for computer components, for consoles, for everything, for handhelds, and 596 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,240 I think we're like, we're not even like through those 597 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:33,559 price increases yet. The new right, August first is when 598 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,559 the price increase happens for like Xbox, I think, and 599 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:37,599 and even like Switch. 600 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think it was. 601 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,559 Speaker 2: I think it's August when the when the switch to pricing. 602 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,599 Speaker 1: I think it's August, right, So we haven't even those 603 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,920 haven't even happened yet. And we're already getting signs that 604 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,160 further price increases are coming, and so I think what 605 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,680 by Yeah, I feel. 606 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,319 Speaker 2: Like I feel like August is when we're also going 607 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,880 to get news about the Zelda remake. 608 00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:57,279 Speaker 3: After the price goes up. 609 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: I think I think you might be onto something where 610 00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:02,599 it's like they are holding some of that stuff back 611 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,319 to like change the conversation back to the games you 612 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,319 can't miss out on and ockerat of time. 613 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: Obviously they think that is one of those. 614 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: A grid of tinnery, That's what I was talking. 615 00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:12,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 616 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but by the way, I'm leaning over this way 617 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,119 because it looks like the way the layout looks like 618 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,880 on the on the stream, I look like I'm whispering 619 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,319 in your ears. 620 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, I love that. 621 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:22,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 622 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,519 Speaker 1: I mean I think we get more price increases in 623 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,559 the first half of next year, like from all these 624 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,519 like as the stuff trickles down, I think Sony, Microsoft, 625 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:33,240 and Nintendo all raise their prices again. 626 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably it wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me. And it's 627 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,720 it's it's it's becoming I I honestly kind of think 628 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,359 that this is going to mean that the next generation 629 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,400 of consoles is just going to be just gone. It's well, 630 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,559 not a thing, they'll never come out, But I think 631 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:51,839 they're generally going to be either they're going to have 632 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,359 to radically rethink what they are and what they're capable of, 633 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,359 or we're not going to get them into like twenty 634 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,119 twenty nine. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm afraid of. 635 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,960 And like we'll talk about I think this more in 636 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,160 a minute when we talk about the Xbox stuff, because 637 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,599 I have thoughts about everything that's been happening over at 638 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Microsoft and Xbox. But yeah, I mean, I think it's 639 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,400 getting to the point now where I don't even know 640 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,759 if we can sell, we can reasonably sell video game 641 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,599 consoles as a luxury item. Like it's it's so far 642 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,400 beyond luxury at this point. It's like buying a five 643 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,279 thousand dollars perse It's like, what the what's the point 644 00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:30,279 of spending all that money on something that you know 645 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:32,759 you're not something? So, you know, what's the point of 646 00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,319 spending that much on something so utilitarian? What could possibly 647 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,240 drive the price up to that amount? 648 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was word like like I didn't see what 649 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,400 it was. Like, I think there's a new version of 650 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,720 the thirty fifty, the RTX thirty fifty that has four 651 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,880 gigabytes of video memory, which is everyone's like, hey, we 652 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,119 have I thought we moved past this, like everyone knows. Ye, wait, 653 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,039 that's not nearly enough, not on this day and age, No, 654 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,960 not at all. This is yeah, I think when we're 655 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,960 kind of looking around and trying to figure out what 656 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,279 happens next here other than price increases for the stuff 657 00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:08,519 that we already see on the store shelves, which does 658 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:11,200 feel again inevitable after the ones that we're going through 659 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,519 right in this moment. Yeah, when we start talking about 660 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:17,279 what does next gen look like? I mean, I if 661 00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,559 I'm at one of these companies, I am trying to 662 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:21,440 figure out a way to make it make the most 663 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:24,200 sense possible. And I do think that means like if 664 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,319 you're if you're Sony, which maybe is the most interesting 665 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,640 one because they're the ones that have the most momentum 666 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,400 while also having to deal with like high end fidelity, 667 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:35,720 expensive hardware because they did not they've never really stepped 668 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,720 away from that. They always have been on the cutting edge, 669 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,279 with the exception of like the PS four, which was 670 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,039 very successful for them. It's kind of maybe you should 671 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:43,599 repeat that the PS four was a bunch of like 672 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,759 crappy parts taking off the shelf, and then all right, 673 00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:49,240 PS five, we're back at it with an expensive SSD 674 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:51,839 and all this stuff, and you know it's the PS 675 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,599 fives way better. 676 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's give you an astrobot game just so we 677 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,200 can show off all the internal hardware here exactly. 678 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: And the PS five is is way better. But it's like, okay, 679 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,880 well it's way better. It should be able to last 680 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,559 longer than the PS four did, and the PS four 681 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:09,240 law lasted a very long time. So if I'm Sony 682 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,680 in this situation and I was already planning a handheld, 683 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,240 maybe the PS six is mostly just the handheld, because 684 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640 then you can sort of scale the power to sort 685 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,039 of be more in line with the PS five and 686 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,559 kind of communicate to developers, to your teams, this is 687 00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:26,160 the amount of power we're going to have. Because we 688 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,240 just in no way want to deprecate the PlayStation five. 689 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,119 We need to keep that audience going because they are 690 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920 going to stick with that console far longer than they've 691 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,240 ever stuck with the PlayStation before, because they just simply 692 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,440 will not have the money to upgrade to a PS six. 693 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,400 What we're going to charge for a home PS six 694 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,039 and they seem to have that option, And. 695 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: I would honestly call that a smart business move if 696 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,480 I were if I were them, if I were in 697 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:54,279 charge of Sony, That's probably what I would be seriously 698 00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:57,680 considering right about now, because I'm kind of afraid the 699 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880 AI bubble is not going to burst as fast as 700 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,240 we're all maybe thinking it. We all maybe thought it 701 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:05,880 would like this time last year. Even I think it's 702 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,559 just going to keep growing and growing and growing, and 703 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:11,000 then it's going to be a lot longer than we 704 00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:13,000 think before it bursts. And if that's the case, then 705 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,079 these prices are only going to keep going up. Yeah, 706 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,160 the video has no reason to not raise the prices 707 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,720 at this point. 708 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: Yes, right, I mean the competition for their compute power 709 00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:28,839 from the AI bubble is something that they won't ignore 710 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,200 that they couldn't ignore it, but they wouldn't ignore it either. 711 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,920 They're happy to choose that instead, and that means giving, Like, 712 00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:38,200 just giving some of the resources that you have to 713 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:41,799 the video game industry is kind of a hassle at 714 00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:43,400 this point, so you've got to just charge them more 715 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,519 to make it worth more your time. 716 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: It sucks, it's. 717 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: Awful, and it's a bubble, so it's like we're gonna 718 00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:51,400 like when it bursts and it all goes sideways. It's 719 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,839 not like suddenly we get all that compute back, Like 720 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,799 that stuff is just going to kind of like have 721 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,119 to be transferred back to gaming. That's going to be 722 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,519 a hassle as well. It'll take you years for the 723 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,559 stuff to stabilize once we get to that point. 724 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: And I'm happy that we've got things like the Steam 725 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,400 Deck and god, I hope the Steam Machine soon. Pardon 726 00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,960 just because I mean the first people who were priced 727 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,079 out of it were like the PC gamers who like 728 00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,119 building their own rakes. Yeah, yeah, I can't afford to 729 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,720 do that now. 730 00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:19,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 731 00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:23,559 Speaker 1: Right then the Steam Machine, which you know I've been 732 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,400 using recently. It's been great, but I continue go like, 733 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,319 this is so handy, so nice, and who do you 734 00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:31,920 recommend it to? 735 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: How do you tell people that it's worth the price? 736 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,319 It's it's just not But okay. 737 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,839 Speaker 1: The the other side of this is like, yeah, people 738 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:42,000 point out, like can have one thousand dollars PS six 739 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,559 handheld like compete in the market. That also feels dead 740 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:47,559 on arrival, and I think I'm yeah, I don't maybe, 741 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,640 but that's not really the point. The point is that 742 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,000 they need to do everything they can to sort of 743 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:57,160 flatten the curve of graphical fidelity increasing and they need 744 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,160 to like make it clear to their teams that you 745 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,440 should still be making games for the PS five first. 746 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,960 And so, yeah, for a long time now, it's been 747 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,079 like my idea here is I think there is a 748 00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:10,679 PS six. I think there's this PS six handout, and 749 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,480 then I think there is a PS six light, which 750 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:18,119 is just a reconfigured PlayStation five with some other small. 751 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 3: Upgrades so that that could still be like the. 752 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: Anchor console that holds the gaming production sort of down, 753 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,199 so that no one feels like they have to have 754 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,079 the biggest hardware or the biggest and best hardware to. 755 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 3: Like get their game running. 756 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: You need to make sure it's running on this stuff, 757 00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:33,920 because we are going to be supporting the PS five, 758 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,840 and you can put that version on the PS five 759 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,639 as well, with some reductions here and there, probably not many, 760 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,400 because that maybe should just be your lead platform for 761 00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,480 the next seven years. 762 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:46,079 Speaker 3: Like the game the. 763 00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: Console is already pretty old, like it's sort of like 764 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,079 a fifteen year. 765 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: Life that god, I would hope, So but actually, I 766 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,760 mean again, we're gonna talk about this more in a minute, 767 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,440 because I know we got an Xbox story coming up. 768 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,679 But I think, do you think that if that was 769 00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,159 the way they went, I mean, I traditional, like the 770 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,280 major players are so high bound to this, like very 771 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,800 I think kind of archaic way of releasing consoles. It's like, Okay, 772 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,480 it's time for the PS five, now it's time for 773 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,679 the PS six. It's like five point five maybe handheld 774 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,360 five point five in between, Like I would you release 775 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,719 the big like the big PS six first and then 776 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,840 the handheld or the handheld and then the big PS 777 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,360 six like hypothetically speaking, Yeah, I. 778 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,159 Speaker 3: Guess, I don't know. I think. 779 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: I think they would probably try to bundle like package 780 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,440 as much together like and presented as one line as 781 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:38,320 possible so that they can give people the option. But 782 00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,880 I think it'll be very clear, like what PlayStation prefers 783 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,360 you get by like the pricing and all that stuff. 784 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,920 So I think like they will emphasize I think the handheld. 785 00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:51,360 I think that is like the biggest differentiating factor. Right 786 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,719 The PS six was going to be a hard sell anyhow, 787 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,719 because games already look fantastic and you don't have to, like, 788 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,599 there's just not much holding them back anymore more in 789 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:03,119 terms of being able to put it like the things 790 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:04,960 that are holding back games, I always say, it's it's 791 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,079 time and money. Now it's no longer the silicon side 792 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:10,480 and side of these these pieces of hardware, and you 793 00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,000 know it's okay. Well at that point that means you 794 00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,280 get to the situation where you're spending two hundred and 795 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,239 fifty three hundred million dollars on games like they are, 796 00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:20,159 I don't think they want to keep pushing in that direction. 797 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,880 So yeah, I think they focus on the handheld because 798 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,079 the handheld could be this thing where it's like, here 799 00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,000 is a new way to play the games you already 800 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,320 love and doesn't look amazing, and we kind of know 801 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:30,960 that there's. 802 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,679 Speaker 3: An untapped audience. 803 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,199 Speaker 1: That was like that is there, Like the way that 804 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,280 the PlayStation Portal has sold clearly that there's that that 805 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,920 audience is there. So I think I think PlayStation will 806 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,159 emphasize the handheld. 807 00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Portal was kind of a like like 808 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,840 a like the first shot yeah on that as well. 809 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,639 I think I think because it did so well, I 810 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,440 think that is a handheld is more likely to be 811 00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:55,239 part of their lineup going forward. 812 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: Yep. But yeah, I think like they will. 813 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: Take what they've done with the PS five Pro and 814 00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:05,880 sort of sort of like parlay that into a steady 815 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,360 transition into this next generation and kind of like, yeah, 816 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,480 the PS five Pro should give them another seven or 817 00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:14,920 eight years of support. Here, it's just like most people 818 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,920 when they buy one these PlayStations. Most people buy standard 819 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,079 PlayStation four, most people buy standard PlayStation five, and then 820 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,000 there's like a much smaller audience that has the Pro. 821 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,079 But you know, that just means that they can maybe 822 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:29,320 lower the price to the Pro or make it look 823 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000 a lower price by making the prices for PS six 824 00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:34,400 stuff that much more. And so if you're looking for 825 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,800 the affordable option eventually that it might just be the 826 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,400 PS five Pro, which I think we'll get rebranded into 827 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,119 a PS six Light In many ways. 828 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: That would make sense. 829 00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, all right, let's see here. 830 00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah you're saying we got that. Let's talk about Xbox 831 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,400 audiences grew. Yeah, it's audience grew, but it's business did not. 832 00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:58,519 This is from Chris Scoian at VGC. Xbox CEO Asha 833 00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,360 Sharma says it expects to turn to growth by this time. 834 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,920 Next year, and it's nice to want things. Microsoft posted 835 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,119 its financial reports for the last quarter on Wednesday, stating 836 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,119 that while the company as a whole was seeing continued 837 00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:14,239 growth with revenue and operating income both up eighteen percent, 838 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,800 the Xbox division was instead seeing reduced revenues. According to 839 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,199 its Q four fiscal year twenty twenty six results, which 840 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,440 cover the period from April first to June thirtieth, twenty 841 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,000 twenty six, Xbox content and services revenue declined ten percent 842 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,599 compared to the same quarter the same Q four results 843 00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:36,000 from last year. Xbox hardware revenue also declined, according to Microsoft, 844 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,519 with a thirteen percent drop compared to Q four fiscal 845 00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:41,559 year twenty twenty five. This has been a recurring situation 846 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:45,679 for Xbox throughout the past financial year. Microsoft's Q three 847 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,719 earnings report showed that Xbox Content and Services revenue was 848 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,159 down five percent and that hardware revenue was down thirty 849 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:56,400 three percent, and Q two earnings results also showed year 850 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,480 on year decline of basically everything else. They they've kind 851 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,800 of been and going down since Q like one of 852 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,320 three years ago. It's been consistently down, you know, ten 853 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,920 to thirty percent every quarter. During Microsoft's presentation, though Microsoft 854 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,840 CEO Sati Nadella referred to Xbox declined, stating that the 855 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,480 company was in the process of undertaking the reset mentioned 856 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,239 by Sharma in the past. When it comes to Xbox, 857 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,159 we are making the necessary decisions required across our content portfolio, 858 00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:29,159 platform and operations to reset the business for long term growth. 859 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,880 We have the best ip in the industry and talented 860 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,079 studios around the world, and believe we can bring these 861 00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,960 strengths together and expect to return the business to growth 862 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,519 in fiscal twenty twenty seven. They don't. They don't really 863 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:42,599 say what, like how they get to that point. I mean, 864 00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:46,559 I think they're implying that will grow because we'll have 865 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,079 fewer people to pay because we're cutting a bunch of jobs, 866 00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:51,000 and we'll keep making the same amount of money, which 867 00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,000 is like, will you because it looks they're gonna make 868 00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:56,280 less money based on the trender on and the cost 869 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,599 of the console and all this other stuff. 870 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,079 Speaker 3: What is the plan here. 871 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 2: Jeff, That's what I'm kind of wondering. It's like why. 872 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,280 I remember when they were doing the whole like talking 873 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,880 about the reset, and Asha Sharma said something like, don't worry, 874 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:12,119 We're still invested in Helix, our next gen console, and 875 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,519 I'm like, part of my language, but I'm like, who 876 00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,760 gives a fuck about healing? Three thousand people are losing 877 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,559 their jobs and why are you investing? And correct me 878 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,199 if I'm wrong, But I feel like this is probably 879 00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:28,719 a studio that would probably benefit even more from going 880 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,440 for the whole, Like, well, we're going to invest more 881 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:34,280 in the series lineup, and in the meantime, here's a 882 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,519 cool Xbox branded handheld that costs much less to make. 883 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: Right if they could, like they could keep working on 884 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,559 it seemed like they were working on that side of things. 885 00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 3: They had the Asus Roger ally that. 886 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,159 Speaker 1: They kind of did in partnership, and then there was 887 00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:50,679 always the word that they were working on their own 888 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,760 to sort of go in conjunction with that, and then 889 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,440 that got shelved or something. 890 00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:57,679 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, what, like what is the plan over there? 891 00:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,719 I don't know, I have no idea. 892 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm I mean, I don't I don't know what is 893 00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:07,360 going to happen. I understand some of the things. I understand, 894 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,599 like studios going independent or getting bought out. That's the 895 00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:13,239 best case scenario in my mind. I mean, it sucks 896 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,519 that double Fine still had to lay people off. I mean, 897 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,800 I don't want any I wish nobody had to get 898 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,920 lay laid off. But twenty three people getting laid off 899 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,199 because the studio went independent versus three thousand people getting 900 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,559 laid off because Xbox is resetting. 901 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and it's like, you know, those those jobs, 902 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,199 all those jobs were lost once when Xbox decided to 903 00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,239 stop paying them. The fact that they were saved at 904 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,000 all by the student it's like, you know, it is flipped. 905 00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:44,559 It's like double Fine saved whatever jobs trolling them, Yes, exactly, yes, 906 00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,239 So it's it's frustrating. This two hundred million, Okay, I 907 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,559 just don't get like why, like they gained two hundred 908 00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:57,920 million new users. I don't know what that is from. 909 00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,800 I've tried to figure out, like if they've d where 910 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,719 these people are, where they're coming from. 911 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 3: Are they. 912 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 2: Report again, I don't know. Maybe yeah, I mean that's 913 00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,360 my first thought is they're talking about people who like 914 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,000 maybe had like a free sign up to Xbox Game Pass. 915 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,760 It's like, hey, have a free month of Xbox Game 916 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,079 Pass on us, probably like King right and just never 917 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,840 yeah yeah, yeah, King, King King and Mojang definitely the 918 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,480 ones that Ashra Sharma is now personally overseeing because those 919 00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:29,800 are those are the favorite, those are the favorite children. Yep, understandably, 920 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,000 so those are those are very successful children of course. 921 00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:37,400 So yeah, so I understand that. But that's yeah, I 922 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,079 have no idea what she means by that. 923 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think chat is speculating that it's all just 924 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,960 Twitter engagement, is what they're like, Like, it's just like 925 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,239 putting a post on on Twitter and two hundred million 926 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,280 new users of Xbox Twitter posts. 927 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, is that? 928 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:53,639 Speaker 2: I do think it was. I do think it was 929 00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:56,519 probably like a lot of the promotion for Xbox Game 930 00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:59,519 Pass probably attracted a lot of curious people, but I 931 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:00,760 don't think stuck around. 932 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and it's not two hundred million. 933 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,559 Speaker 2: For just Xbox stuff like no, yeah, I really don't 934 00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:06,880 think so. 935 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:07,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 936 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:13,599 Speaker 1: So uh okay, just just saying things, uh man, because 937 00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,599 co pilot told you so, right, that's almost certainly what 938 00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:16,239 happened here. 939 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 3: Like always just pick a pick a number. 940 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: Here's here's some data I found that shows there's two 941 00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:22,679 hundred million people that looked at whatever. And then she 942 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,840 just wrote that down and said it uh to t Satsia, No, 943 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,960 that was charma that said that. 944 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 3: Okay, let's keep going here. EA CEO, which. 945 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:33,199 Speaker 1: Is a great way to start any sentence, got a 946 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,920 huge pay increase while company laid off developers. This is 947 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,920 from Blair Marnell at GameSpot And if that like sounds rough, 948 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,280 don't worry. The specifics are worse when Saudi Arabia is 949 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,880 leveraged buyout of Electronic Arts is finalized. Another great way 950 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,000 to start a sentence. The newly private company won't have 951 00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,000 to release any financial documents to the public. In the meantime, 952 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:56,519 EA's latest financial disclosure has revealed that CEO Andrew Wilson 953 00:43:56,559 --> 00:44:00,840 received a massive that this story actually good spells this 954 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,440 or mimis states this a massive thirty million increasing his 955 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,559 compensation this year. It's actually he got an increase of 956 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,840 eight million. He was at thirty million, it went up 957 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,239 to thirty eight million. A double checked on this, and 958 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,199 he wasn't the only EA executive to reap the rewards. 959 00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,280 Per EA's report filed with the Security and Exchange Commission, 960 00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:19,400 Wilson's composition package in the previously be a rose by 961 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,480 yeh eight million. That total includes bonus payments and stock options. 962 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,800 The report also notes that Wilson's thirty eight million payout 963 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,880 has a three hundred and five to one ratio to 964 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,239 the average pay of an employee at EA. 965 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,639 Speaker 3: God damn it. 966 00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: Another eye opening fact and covered the report that the 967 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,360 report notes that Wilson only flies on private planes rather 968 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440 than commercial airliners, including for personal use, and. 969 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 3: EA has to pay for that. 970 00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:50,599 Speaker 1: There's a list here of other executives that have their compensation. 971 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:55,079 President of EA Entertainment, Laura meel It makes thirteen point 972 00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:55,719 seven million. 973 00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:56,559 Speaker 3: Blah. 974 00:44:56,599 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: Point is a lot of these people are getting big 975 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,440 bonuses or big increases to their pay. And why why 976 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,960 are they getting increases to their pay? 977 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:03,639 Speaker 3: Rachel? 978 00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So they're getting it because a lot of their 979 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,880 bonuses were tied to the performance of Battlefield, and that 980 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,159 game had to meet certain measurements and if it did, 981 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,159 these people would make more money. And then what happened 982 00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:18,159 to many people who worked on Battlefield at the exact 983 00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:19,639 same time this was happening. 984 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,039 Speaker 3: They got laid off. They are jobs. 985 00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:26,199 Speaker 1: Got what I You don't have to make it look 986 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,039 like a complete clown show. You don't have to make 987 00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:32,360 it look as terrible as possible. This is the thing 988 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,639 that makes people hate. 989 00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:35,679 Speaker 2: Yet oh to be so to be rich enough to 990 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,440 not care about optics. 991 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,599 Speaker 1: Right exactly, Yes, And to be running into the arms 992 00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,920 of your private owner in Saudi Arabia because yeah, you're 993 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,599 not gonna have to report this stuff anymore. And and yes, 994 00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:50,440 the optics really won't matter because now it's Saudi Arabia's problem. 995 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,440 They're worried about their optics more than you are worried 996 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,159 about yours. And you're gonna get your big pay day. 997 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,039 Probably can invest and get out of there in a 998 00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:56,719 couple of years. 999 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if, like EA CEO Andrew 1000 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,000 Wilson steps down. Is a story that we hear sometime 1001 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,119 in the next two. 1002 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,599 Speaker 3: Years without a doubt, like yes, as soon as he can. 1003 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: Like the Yeah, the acquisition will almost certainly have some 1004 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,400 sort of language in there about a transition period about 1005 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,599 vesting those options, and then once that's up, it will 1006 00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,960 be instantaneous, like a lot of it. You'll see a 1007 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,320 wave of these people leaving because why would they why 1008 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,920 would they stay? 1009 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 2: Well, and the whole the plane thing, by the way, 1010 00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,360 I'm like, well, first of all, I don't understand, like 1011 00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:34,320 where is he going that he needs a private jet 1012 00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:38,039 to fly that much. And also, and why is he 1013 00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:40,440 a paying for it? I mean you pay I mean, 1014 00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:42,159 you pay somebody a salary like that. He can get 1015 00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:43,320 his own goddamn plane. 1016 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: And he's like Australian, right, so he's probably flying back home, 1017 00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:47,960 like visits the family or whatever. 1018 00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 3: Maybe not, I don't know. 1019 00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 2: Listen, I would also listen, I would also fly to 1020 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,360 all of the world's beautiful vacation spots as often as 1021 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,440 I could if I was paid that. 1022 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,559 Speaker 3: Amount saying for it. 1023 00:46:57,639 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would not do so at the expense 1024 00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:01,840 of everyone else's jobs. 1025 00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1026 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,079 Speaker 2: And I know it's easy for me to say that, 1027 00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,639 you know, because I'm you know, I'm a brokeye over here, 1028 00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:08,840 but I'm not. You know, It's easy for me to 1029 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,719 say that because I'm not in that position. But I 1030 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,800 mean it's also it's also I can also say that 1031 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,400 this is morally repugnant to me. 1032 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly this, And yes, ver Textbable points out a 1033 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,280 lot this is a common practice for CEOs. It's part 1034 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,880 of their compensation package. Often, it's just very occasionally we 1035 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,280 get it illustrated in such a terrible way here where 1036 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,719 it's like, man, this is happening simultaneously with you getting 1037 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,440 paid more and you're cutting jobs, and the reason you 1038 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,599 got paid more is the people who whose jobs you 1039 00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:40,719 cut they did a really good job. Like that's just 1040 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,119 what happened here. That's literally what happened. Holy shit, that sucks. 1041 00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 2: Oh man, Could we also not like use that? Could 1042 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,320 that be? Like for everyone at EA? 1043 00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 3: That would be? 1044 00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 2: That would make me feel a little bit better about it, Like, 1045 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,199 you know, you. 1046 00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 3: Got to everyone gets one day with it? 1047 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know it's like, hey, Andrew's not using 1048 00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:58,880 this plane for a day. It's like, do somebody does 1049 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,320 somebody have to go visit their family over in Taiwan 1050 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,119 or something. Somebody jump in the plane. 1051 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,599 Speaker 1: Let's go h Capcom says the likelihood of a Pragmata 1052 00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:10,000 sequel is high. This is from Liam Dulan at Nintendo Life. 1053 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,079 It's still early days for Capcom's new IP, Pragmata, but 1054 00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,440 it seems the future is bright after the title sold 1055 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,719 over two point five million units since launching in April. 1056 00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:21,679 The team has already touched on the idea of a sequel, 1057 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,239 and now an update has been shared alongside the company's 1058 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,039 latest financial resorts results. 1059 00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 3: Excuse me. As reported by Bloomberg. 1060 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,119 Speaker 1: Capcom's corporate officer, Yoshi's Yoshi Kazu shima Uchi Shimuchi There 1061 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,480 we Go confirms the likelihood of a sequel is high. 1062 00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,519 And I think everyone's kind of feeling that way because 1063 00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,639 the game just sort of popped off immediately and everyone 1064 00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:44,199 got it reviewed well and has been selling well. 1065 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a good it's a solid game. So 1066 00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:51,320 I would finally some good news in this in this report, 1067 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,880 I would not be I would not be mad if 1068 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,440 Pragmata turned into a recurring IP. I think it there's 1069 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,599 a possibility it could be milked a little bit, you know, 1070 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,599 more than necessary. But right now, right now, this is 1071 00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:06,159 an optimistic this is this is a this is a 1072 00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:06,719 good report. 1073 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 1: Yes, and I think we can like sort of like 1074 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,840 trust a Capcom right now. They seem to have a 1075 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,119 good handle on like how to use their IP to 1076 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,760 best effect. All right, let's hit these last few stories 1077 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,960 here pretty quickly. Nexus Mods wants to uh once mod 1078 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,400 installation to become spotify easy. 1079 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,519 Speaker 3: Uh if people have not used. 1080 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,559 Speaker 1: Nexus mods, if you've seen people install like a million 1081 00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:31,159 mods for Skyrim or something like that, you're like, some 1082 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:33,760 of these aren't on the bethes, the mod store thing, 1083 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,480 it's like, yeah, they're all they're getting them all from 1084 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,440 Nexus Mods. It's this huge repository for creators to upload 1085 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,400 their mods or for people to download them. And it 1086 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,280 already has this like I think it's called Vortex, Yeah, 1087 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,960 the Vork Vortex Mod Manager, which yes, and that helps 1088 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,239 like deal with a lot of times. As they point 1089 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,119 out here, Uh, mods have dependencies and and there's a setup, validation, 1090 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:02,280 conflict management, change deployment, version, maintenance, and Vortex does some 1091 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:02,599 of that. 1092 00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 3: I think they're trying to get it to a point where. 1093 00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: It's like yeah, but you still have to like see 1094 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:08,599 the back end a little bit and see like the 1095 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,679 file names or whatever, and that might scare some people. 1096 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,599 And they're trying to make it like hey, just a 1097 00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:16,400 one button press now there is I have such like 1098 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,800 Steam Steam Mods does that, but yeah, Steam can't have 1099 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,159 all the copyrighted stuff that Nexus Mods can. 1100 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like such a like such a like 1101 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:28,880 old like such an old fogie right now because I'm 1102 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,760 like I'm kind of in like you know, it's kind 1103 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,880 of like a MySpace versus Facebook kind of thing for 1104 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,599 me because I'm like, oh, back in my day. Back 1105 00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,519 in my day, we installed all and then if we 1106 00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:40,199 had conflict management, we just deleted mods until we figured 1107 00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:41,239 out what the problem was. 1108 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 3: Uh huh exactly. Yeah, listen, were about. 1109 00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 2: To go into our gameplay files, and we knew how 1110 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,599 to edit the mods so that they, you know, we 1111 00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:50,639 knew how to you know, find the right file that 1112 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,440 was corrupting our save and we knew how to we 1113 00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:55,599 you were putting video game all Yeah, we had to 1114 00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:57,840 do it all by ourselves. Like I remembered my first 1115 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,679 sixty sky Rim mods and my first one hundred dragon 1116 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,000 Age mods. Dragon Age was what started me on modding. 1117 00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:08,079 But yeah, I remember, like, you know, just loading up 1118 00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,079 Skyrim with all of my mods for the first time 1119 00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:13,000 and just having it be like moving at the speed 1120 00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:13,880 of glaciers. 1121 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,159 Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, I. 1122 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: Don't think that makes you an old fogey. Mike Manatti 1123 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,679 is the mod old fogy who's just like that, doesn't 1124 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,519 that's not what the game company wants me to do. 1125 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to do something 1126 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,079 that the. 1127 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: Corporation says is not okay, So you're you're in the 1128 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,639 clear here, all right. 1129 00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:34,199 Speaker 3: Last couple Mike called out, Oh well. 1130 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: Every Time Kroc two Kingdom of the Gobos remaster announced 1131 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,239 from This is from Salamono Kamatsu. Basically just they're doing 1132 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,559 what they did for Kroc one. 1133 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,559 Speaker 3: For Kroc two. 1134 00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: They will have the Kroc two Pedia, which features original 1135 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,320 design documentation, marketing and promotional material, animation tests, galleries of 1136 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,960 cut models, levels and objects, and interviews with the original developers 1137 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,679 and the remaster team. 1138 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 3: I'm into it. 1139 00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: I think one is like a weird time capsule game 1140 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,400 that didn't hit with me at the time, and then 1141 00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:05,960 going back to it, it's like, oh, this is weird, 1142 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,079 but they kind of add the direct controls to it, 1143 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:10,679 so it's oh, interesting, this is kind of what they 1144 00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:12,039 would have done if they knew at the time. 1145 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,679 Speaker 3: So I'll check it out. And then Thimbleweed Park two 1146 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,360 has been announced. Let's see here. 1147 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: Ron Gilbert is back, Gary Winnick is back, and they're 1148 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,320 targeting twenty twenty eight for this point and click sequel. 1149 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 3: So very cool. 1150 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,679 Speaker 2: It's all right, sounds awesome to me. Both Both of 1151 00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,440 those sound great to me exactly. 1152 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 3: The couple updates. 1153 00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:35,599 Speaker 1: Today's Zeno Blake Chronicles two Nintendo Switch To edition is 1154 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,159 fully out. Zena Blake Chronicles definitive edition for the first 1155 00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:41,719 game is going to get its standalone and physical release 1156 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,760 today for tomorrow. 1157 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 3: Is there anything? Not much? 1158 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,199 Speaker 1: Hoyo Versus Genshin Impact Version seven point zero ever Winter 1159 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,280 Without Mercy Special program airs from eight to nine pm 1160 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,639 Eastern Time, So all you Hoyo verse maniacs out there, 1161 00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:00,000 I'll get into it. 1162 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:01,079 Speaker 3: All right. 1163 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: That does it for the headlines. Let's start wrapping up 1164 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,000 the show. We have a poll question from yesterday. Let's 1165 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,960 go ahead and get the freshest results from here. Are 1166 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,880 you planning or are you playing? Excuse me Splatoon Raiders boo, yeah, 1167 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,360 which is yes or no? 1168 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:16,599 Speaker 3: And I am playing it? 1169 00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:19,039 Speaker 1: Twenty five percent of people twenty six excuse me percent 1170 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,800 of responded said yes they are playing this game. Seventy 1171 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,840 four percent said no. It's a pretty decent result for 1172 00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:29,920 this fifty dollars sort of spin off of Splatoon, and 1173 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,639 again we know how well it's doing in Japan. 1174 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,159 Speaker 3: Right, Is this is this one you've checked out? I 1175 00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:34,480 think you said you might have played it. I can't 1176 00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:36,119 remember I played. 1177 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 2: Was it a demo that I played? 1178 00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 3: Okay? Yes? 1179 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1180 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 3: Probably? 1181 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,519 Speaker 2: Yeah? Was there there was a demo? 1182 00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 3: Was there? 1183 00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm not tripping right. 1184 00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,599 Speaker 3: I think was there like a there might have been 1185 00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:46,199 I'm not sure. 1186 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have played at a previewed event or 1187 00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:49,679 something like that. 1188 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 3: There is I think that's what it was. 1189 00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Splatoon Raiders is one that I'm getting more into. 1190 00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:56,079 Speaker 2: There was a demo. I just looked it up and 1191 00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:57,519 I'm like, yep, it was definitely the demo. 1192 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,679 Speaker 3: Excellent, Okay, very cool. Yep. 1193 00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:02,679 Speaker 1: Splatoon Raiders is one I'm gonna keep playing for sure. 1194 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,760 We have a new poll question, though, we'll get to 1195 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,239 it here in a second. Before we do that, Rachel, 1196 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,920 why don't you tell people where they can find you 1197 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,440 on the internet what you have going on all that 1198 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,079 good stuff. 1199 00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:16,119 Speaker 2: You can find my written work at gamespeed dot com 1200 00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:19,440 and where I am currently. I've just put out my 1201 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,880 latest edition of boss Mode, which is my series of 1202 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,239 interviews with female leaders in the gaming, technology and entertainment industries. 1203 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,400 I just did an interview with Amanda Cruz from Bloomhouse Games, 1204 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,199 and before that, I did one with Felicia Day, who 1205 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,280 if you don't know, you're too young to be watching this. 1206 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,800 And you could also find me on TikTok, where I 1207 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,199 make funny videos about games. I just did one about 1208 00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:45,199 how the Legend of Zelda Ocreative Time remake might be 1209 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,199 the only game that could reasonably compete with Grand theft 1210 00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:49,440 Ato six, and I got some very interesting feedback on 1211 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,559 that one. And I also have an assignment for Giant Bomb. 1212 00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:56,320 If you don't mind, I'm just gonna put this out there. 1213 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,079 You can DM me on pretty much any social media platform. 1214 00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,199 It's just my name, Rachel Caser. And you can also 1215 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,360 find me on like TikTok, blue Sky Twitter if you 1216 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,280 still use Twitter. But I am trying to upgrade my 1217 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,199 whole setup here because my camera, microphone, headset, all of that, 1218 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,760 this is all pre pandemic stuff, like I have not 1219 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,440 like most of my disposable income has gone into other 1220 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,599 areas and aspects of my life and also just you know, 1221 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,159 necessities staying alive, putting food on the table. But I 1222 00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,559 have enough now that I can actually start to like improve, 1223 00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:28,519 Like I'm still using the same Logitech webcam that I've 1224 00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:32,559 had since like twenty seventeen, so I think tenth anniversary 1225 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:34,519 coming up, it's time to upgrade. So if anybody has 1226 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:39,800 any ideas on good semi reasonably affordable cameras, microphones and 1227 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,800 all that, Jeff, this question for you as well and 1228 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,159 everybody else jis yeah, Gimi crew as well. Yeah, just 1229 00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:47,280 drop me, drop me a message anywhere you can find 1230 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,320 me online. And you know I'm open to all recommendations. 1231 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,000 So that's your homework, Giant Bomb. 1232 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, help her out. 1233 00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: Please, everybody like give give some recommendations. Uh fantastic. All right, 1234 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,320 Well let's see here a new poll question. Have you 1235 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,880 ever used used Nexus mods? Yes or no? We'll get 1236 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,880 the results talk about it on the show tomorrow. Speaking 1237 00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:11,079 of Giant Bomb, tomorrow's show will have the Bomb twelve, 1238 00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:12,840 So go ahead and vote for the Bomb twelve. We'll 1239 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,239 get the full results there. See what games everyone's been playing. 1240 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,920 Later today, and by later today, I mean very quickly, right, Jam, 1241 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,519 we're gonna be doing Voicemail Dump Truck with guest star 1242 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,199 Mary Kish. Yeah, thank you, Jan. 1243 00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:27,079 Speaker 3: We are gonna that. 1244 00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:29,079 Speaker 2: Noise English Chan, Yes. 1245 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:31,760 Speaker 3: Exactly. 1246 00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:32,519 Speaker 2: Okay. 1247 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: I understood that there's an episode of Sea Lab twenty 1248 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,199 twenty one where the characters like Face gets eaten by 1249 00:56:38,199 --> 00:56:40,840 a monster and they have a prolonged conversation with them. 1250 00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:42,159 Speaker 3: That's what he sounded like. 1251 00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: The guy that face, So yeah, tune in for that 1252 00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,360 and we're gonna have UPF tomorrow. It's gonna be a 1253 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,960 lot of fun here on gihme Bomb, and then we're 1254 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,960 recording some extra stuff that will pop off here and there. 1255 00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:56,559 Thank you everybody. We really appreciate it. Thank you Rachel 1256 00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:58,599 for hanging out with me today and talking about video games. 1257 00:56:58,599 --> 00:56:59,519 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. 1258 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, needtime, Jeff, thank you for helping. Thank you for 1259 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,960 helping me like socialize what I'm feeling like, feeling like crap. 1260 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you crushed it. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm 1261 00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:09,840 glad that you're feeling better. I hope, we hope you 1262 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,440 get back to one hundred percent here real soon. And 1263 00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,039 once again, thank you to everybody for watching and listening. 1264 00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:17,000 You're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have 1265 00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:20,400 a good one, take care of yourself, and goodbye.