Speaker 1: All right, we'll keep it going on the news at noon,
but we will keep it with the Texans as well.
Speaker 2: Here's what Tamiko Ryans had to say.
Speaker 1: About all that outside noise about not making a deal
on deadline day.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't emphasize anything to our team like we
have the guys we have. I mean, everybody thinks the
trade day line comes and you're gonna just, you know,
find this guy who's gonna save your team. I don't
see it that way, right, Transactions were made across the league,
and there has to be two parties available to do
a trade. Everybody's antsy about trades. It's not just us
going and.
Speaker 2: Taking somebody from another team.
Speaker 3: People have to be available, and people at the trade
has to be on good terms for everyone. So I
know everybody's in an uproar about us trading at the deadline.
It's like it's not from a lack of us working
to get our team better and improve our team. But
there's no savior coming to save our team. And there
has to be two parties involved in trading.
Speaker 1: Takes two to tango. No savior on the way anyways,
Matthew and no deal made major deal anyways, but meanwhile,
plenty of other teams are in the NFL that were
contenders made deals to get themselves better, including the Lions,
who will be here on Sunday.
Speaker 2: I think that is kind of.
Speaker 1: That's what's more telling to me is that, Yeah, Okay,
you can say, look the deadlines years ago, there would
be hardly we wouldn't talk about.
Speaker 4: The NFL right now, NFL was the worst one. Yeah,
but there's more activity imber in the last five years.
Speaker 1: Jets, However, other many teams we can point to they
they tried to improve their team at the deadline. Lyons
who are coming in here. They traded for this Zadarius Smith.
I mean a lot. I would say more than not
the top Super Bowl contenders traded for a piece to
improve their team for this year.
Speaker 2: Yep, the Texans did not.
Speaker 1: And here is what here's actually Nick Cassario, this from
Texans me. Here's what he had to say about the
trade deadline.
Speaker 2: Not being a roster.
Speaker 5: Builder, usually much ado about nothing. So essentially, a lot
of players, you're a lot of players that get moved.
A are on a kind of expiring type contracts. B
hasn't worked out with their team. Most of it is
kind of late round picks some flips. Essentially, you saw
a few trades there with a compensation. Maybe it was
a little bit bigger than what it was, but you're
kind of looking at your team. There's an opportunity to
add a player that you have a specific defined role for.
Great if not, it's just you know, you're not going
to do something just to do something, just to create
a bunch of busy work.
Speaker 1: But you're not doing that. That's my point is you're
not doing it just to do busy work. You're doing
it because your team is a contender for the AFC, right, correct,
You're keeping go You need to keep up with the Joneses.
We talk about this with baseball. That sounded like somebody
that was I don't even know what that sounded like,
but that was just terrible words once again, terrible nick
word salad again.
Speaker 2: Usually much to do about nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's what you said. Your quotes are typically
how do you get behind this guy?
Speaker 4: You know what, prove us wrong? Prove us wrong.
Speaker 1: That's just not the right the way to attack that
that question and topic.
Speaker 2: You should say.
Speaker 1: Look, we tried to have some conversations substenced conversations. Were
always looking to improve the team, but we felt the
prices were too high to to to try and make
this team better, which we want to do. But at
the end of the day, the draft compensation was a
little too much for our blood.
Speaker 4: We're gonna play this.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play this comment again and you guys can
jump in at seven, one, three, two, five, seven. Honey,
was this a guy that was just trying to brush
it off or was this a guy seriously perhaps on
the phones until the very last second, here's the comment.
Speaker 2: Usually much ado about nothing.
Speaker 5: So essentially, a lot of players, you're a lot of
players that get moved a are on a kind of
expiring type contracts, be hasn't worked out with their team.
Most of it is kind of late round on pigs,
some flips. Essentially, you saw if you trades there with
a compensation maybe was a little bit bigger than what
it was.
Speaker 2: But you're kind of looking at your team.
Speaker 5: There's an opportunity to add a player that you have
a specific, defined role for.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 5: If not, it's just you know, you're not going to
do something just to do something, just to create a
bunch of busy work.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. That's your guy that thinks that
everything is just fine. That is going to have CJ.
Stroud picked up by a spatul law before the end
of the season and scooped off the field.
Speaker 2: That's that's what he is.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 1: Give him credit for draft picks, although that offensive line
is a mess. Give him credit for tanking Tank Dell
for going c J. Stroud, for the picking up with
Joe Mixon, Stefan Diggs was a nice tribe.
Speaker 4: But that's ultimately not going to pan out.
Speaker 1: But your general manager just word salad, you to We're
not doing it just to do it.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 4: You don't do it just to do it.
Speaker 1: You do it because you need help. Why am I
the only one not catching us understanding this ross you are?
But just to do it? That's not what people were
asking for you to do. That God, I mean, seriously,
that's word salad. Is that what you wanted on a
chance to go for a Super Bowl this year? Is
word salad from your general manager dismissing to dismiss the
dead line, dismissing the deadline as if it's like two
thousand and five.
Speaker 2: I think that's why I'll.
Speaker 1: Never be a text event because that's them in town.
Speaker 4: In the building.
Speaker 2: Hannah.
Speaker 1: I have been on your side once you got that
second black card and you told caw to go eat
barbecue and play.
Speaker 2: Video games to get out of the way.
Speaker 1: Can I you walk in that office and say, Nicholas,
you don't call them Nikki, Nicholas, you go get a
deal because my franchise quarterback is running for his life
instead you get well, wait on down with that, man.
I'm just I mean, not even Dana Brown sounds like that.
Jesus sorry, And.
Speaker 2: That's your news at noon.
Speaker 4: It is the news.
Speaker 2: We've got a couple of things, but you can get to.
Speaker 1: But the Rockets won last night, the Rockets one last night,
and is Ryan pressing on the move? We will discuss,
We will discuss. I'm sorry that now I'm revved up.
Hearing that Casio sound by just pissed me off. Now
I'm not even a fan, but I found as a
fan I be pissed. We're not gonna just make come
up because I mean, it's a lot of way around around.
Speaker 4: It's just a lot of guys expiring round.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They seemed like ten teams thought they wanted to get
better before the trade deadline. I don't know, maybe that's
just men. We're just gonna do some things to do this,
and they're gonna attain this, and we're gonna you know,
I want to get caught up in the logistics seven.
Speaker 4: I don't want to give up, you know how.
Speaker 1: I hold my six rounds and my seven round picks
with uh such reverence, and I get your asses bounced
in the first round and all the fake media who's
been serving up cals Burgers can go run around and
go r you know, we go again, AMC South Champions
four years in a row or whatever the hell it is.
You know what I do, I sound like a fan.
That's not exactly what it is.
Speaker 6: Ross.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a I'm a behind the scenes fan, really,
and I'm pissed off to my general non low Kim
hi Key right now. I'm a high key ass Rocket
Texans fan and my general manager didn't didn't want to
take the time because you know, it's just a lot
of extra movement and moving parts of things that don't
make a difference.
Speaker 4: All right, Good enjoy it. Enjoy watching c J.
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Speaker 7: Lunch Timers, lunch Timers, this is the Matt Thommas show.
Speaker 1: You know what we broke her all the rule Earlier
today I said, I don't want to hear from Cassea anymore.
And again, I respect the job that he has. It's difficult,
and I think he's gotten done a good job. He's
built a good team, but I want him to do
a great job. Okay, And we would have said the
exact same thing of Dani Brown would have sat on
his hands when James Click didn't set on his hands,
when Jeff Lintell certainly didn't set on his hands. Sarah
just said, man, we're good. Can you say Cacuci play
left guard?
Speaker 2: Let's go. That wouldn't be bad, can't be worse than
Kingyon Green.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't have a dog in this fight, but
let's just show you that I have a Maybe I
do have a dog in this fight. Maybe I want
to see the Texans do something they've never done in
their franchise as a history. Instead, I got a guy
who's justifying, well, it's just a lot of extra work.
Speaker 4: That's what your job is.
Speaker 1: The great general managers find ways to get better in
the middle.
Speaker 4: Of a season.
Speaker 2: They just do tell me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the I can't help you. I
don't know what conversations Nick had. I don't know what
kind of compensation people were asking for left guards. I
think people do know that they were perhaps there was
an air of desperation, and then when when well, they're
they're absolutely correct. No, Dicks didn't have any desperation. He
would have made a move. So the only thing I
look and I'm just you're just asking me to give
you a reason. And the only reason I can think
of is basically, first of all, if Nickosario believes what
he said, if he believes that the trade deadline.
Speaker 4: Is this you usually want to do about nothing, and.
Speaker 1: He's not been paying attention. He's not He's he's got
his head in the sand. This is not twenty years
ago when the trade deadline was much ado about nothing.
He's not paying attention to what the Steelers and the
Chiefs and the Bills and the Jets and all these
other teams are doing to try and improve their teams.
That's what That's what does trouble me about those comments.
If he came out and said we were working hard
day and night, burned in the candle at both ends,
but we couldn't come up with the deal that was
right for us, and and and when the deadline came
and unfortunately we fell short. That was one thing, but
to say it's nothing and completely brush it off a
lot of aspiring contract I mean, he knows his team
better than I do. I'm not going to hide that.
But the results are everybody has two as a pair
of eyes. We watched the Sunday games, we watched the
demeanor of Stride. By his own admittance this week, said
his team needs are having fun again. You know the
reason why'm not having fun is because he's running for
his life. He's running for his life. Greg on seven ninety,
thanks for holding good afternoon.
Speaker 8: Hey, Thanks thanks Matt, Thanks Bross, thanks thanking the call. Hey, look,
you know the comment about just made are that y'all played?
I mean, come on, we finally, we finally have a
team that has, like you said, that had the chance
to do something that they've never done before, and to
sit back and blow it off as a oh, just
too much to do? You know about nothing that that?
Oh my gosh, I don't know about you I mean,
you hit it right, Matt. I mean, I'm with you
on this one. I'm a little bit upset being a fan,
I mean a long time fan of football here in Houston,
and we get that. I mean, come one, and you
can tell by see James demeanor. Like you said, he's
definitely not the same person that he was at the
end of last year or at the beginning of this year.
So I just, you know, props to you on that.
I mean, you hit it on your head. You hit
it on the head, and uh, you know, keep up
the good work, you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: What ross would you said a minute ago makes absolutely
one er percent sense. We we burn them in at all.
We tried, We we you know, we love our guys,
but we know we've got to guess in the fixed
problem is we just couldn't get the guy we wanted,
or the expectations of what we were willing to give
up were too high. I can buile that because we've
heard that before from other general managers. But he treated
it like it was he was filling out a form
and page nine of his tax form and didn't want
to fill it out because it doesn't cost him a
few extra minutes. I mean, my god, yeah, well you
just yeah, unless unless he's I don't mean to have
a pun here keeping it close to the vest. It's
it's like, I'm gonna make an analogy. Man, let's know this,
This would be better than mind. Bought something and there's like
a five dollars rebate, and he's explaining to his wife
why he didn't bother mailing in the five dollars rebates.
Speaker 2: I was just five dollars. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, it would have
been better to have the five dollars, but it's it's
not something I'm really overly concerned about.
Speaker 2: That's what he sounded like.
Speaker 4: That was an average phnalogy. Thank you, better than Mind,
though I could wish it was nothing, which is zero.
Speaker 1: Robert and Stafford at twelve twenty six on seven on
a HILLO Robert.
Speaker 8: Oh, I hi, I'll get here anyway, George Blanda anyway. Well,
I'm just want to get.
Speaker 9: That guy needs to.
Speaker 4: Put his job on the line, that's all.
Speaker 8: It's just scared that as long.
Speaker 1: As the other king is going fine, he can doesn't
worry about it. But everything it's gonna be going down here.
Speaker 8: That's not gonna be no.
Speaker 4: Maybe wait this or that and listen to our quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, well we ever get to get another you
know chance like that.
Speaker 2: It just happened.
Speaker 4: So but it's just it's very you know, up said
he uh.
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't lose something.
Speaker 9: Maybe I don't know if this is that.
Speaker 8: But they're talking about somebody get hurt, you think.
Speaker 2: Don't want to come back.
Speaker 9: You can't do all them things.
Speaker 4: So just yeah, we let you go, Rober.
Speaker 1: You got a very bad connection, probably our fault. And
I apologize for that in advance if I don't, if
I honestly, Ross, I'm I'm upset at us that we
didn't play that sound bite earlier because we were worried
about trying to get revved up.
Speaker 4: That would have reaved me up.
Speaker 1: If we pay that coming at ten o'clock this morning,
you are fired up, man, I am, I'm seriously and
it's I mean, I've been around a lot of great
general managers, and Nick's a good general manager. Nick is
getting a good grade. He is not a poor general manager.
Not perfect Kenyan Green first round, not perfect. No, but
what's the end game here? And I'm stunned that Hannah
wouldn't have gone in there and said something like I
thought she was going to say.
Speaker 4: This is also what I believe they think.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Vegas says they're only three and a half point dogs
to what we think is this offensive force that is
going to drop fifty on them if they believe in
that building that they can correct the things that have
been ailing the offensive line. You've still got CJ. Stroud.
Doesn't look like Nico Collins is coming back. But you're
established a run with Nicocollins, and you have put on
a good defensive performance, and you went on Sunday Night football.
If they win as a three and a half point dog,
which happens all the time in sports, then we're sitting
here on high But I don't give two craps about
what Vegas thinks about this week. I think about what
the city Houston in the NFL thinks about in January.
This has never been about a week to week basis.
For me. This is about doing something that you built.
You went and got all the defensive guys in the offseason.
You went and got Joe Mixon, you went and got
Stefan Diggs. You didn't expect everybody to be healthy.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you win the Super Bowl, it could
be the likelihood. The Lions are who you're facing. Yeah,
so trying.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to tell you what they're thinking.
Speaker 1: I don't necessary but no, no, no, I don't like to
have seen them improve the team. I think they should
have made a deal. What this signifies to me, and
the fact that Nikosario is being so dismissive, is that
they believe in their guys. Now, well that turned out
to be true. I don't think so, but they believe it,
and he's gonna have to answer to somebody if it doesn't,
because again, cal Hanna, not in previous years, trade deadline
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Speaker 7: By the sound of it, some of you started the
party at breakfast. Matt Thomas on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1: I want a better analogy than your five dollars rebate.
I just I'm not able to give you one ten
dollars rebate. How about this?
Speaker 4: You got it? You were recent laid off from your job?
Speaker 1: What not?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I wouldn't be surprised, but that's a different
issue for a different time. Thanks and uh you get
to clem on and plumb insurance. But it's a big
logistical nightmare. Sign i't want to fill it out paperwork
that's way worse. Okay, that's I'm saying. I'm not good
with analogy because they're trying to incrementally improve the team employment.
That'd be your whole that'd be your whole income at
that moment. So Noel Anderson and no Nico Collins. At
this point, Nico probably not gonna play on Sunday. It
doesn't seem like it right if he hadn't, he hadn't
practiced today.
Speaker 4: They gave me in Pierce.
Speaker 1: They haven't even designated for a return for him to
return and open his window. Sometimes they open window on
players and they don't. Jonathan Brooks a couple of week,
three weeks ago, they opened up his window and now
they're just activating him.
Speaker 2: TJ.
Speaker 1: Hockinson on the Vikings, he was at his window open
for a couple of weeks. They don't haven't even open
Nico's window. I'm concerned. I'm confused because Aaron Wilson's tweet
was ready to go. Yeah, it's Aaron Wilson's fault. Yeah,
let's get him on to get well, he's Alanos on
other shows.
Speaker 4: I guess we can have him on if you want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what other show. Shawn's does it going with
Aaron Sean? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think so okay, Well we'll take the clips.
Speaker 1: Willie in the Heights on seven nine of your twelve
thirty six high willing ah.
Speaker 4: Y'all doing good, man.
Speaker 9: I listened to You'll Show as much as possible, and
I'm just devastated with these texts. Here are two things
I got to say. Nicks served got a pretty good
job early on. Nickoserve need to be fired. Offenseve lineman
need to be fired. And I just don't know they
planning the Detroit Allowne this week? The best team it is,
which which if you had pretty much everybody held it
was gonna be hard to beat this team. But man,
I'm just sick to my stoma if it ever was
a team that's we're trying to give a team a win.
Speaker 2: Last week is with the Jets.
Speaker 9: They did everything possible to give a Texan a win
and they still come away with the lungs. Man, I'm
just sick to my stommer with what these Texans doing.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not look. Will he took a calculated risk.
I don't agree with it. Thank you for the call.
By the way, I wouldn't say I'm sick to my stomach.
This is not a travesty. This to me, just like
a lot of teams, the trade deadline in baseball is
a big missed opportunity, and it's opening yourself up for
second guessing both ways. If CJ stays upright, offensive line improves,
you have whoever's gonna be wide receiver opposite tank doing
some things you're not worried about going to get somebody
else in the passing game. If the line holds up
and you know, whatever combination is out there, Kendrick Green, Patterson,
whatever keeps CJ app right, it's a win win. I
got another analogy for you. Okay, this is going to
be the best of the three. Maybe not go ahead.
Nick Kissario has a car. This car can get him
A to B. It has issues, especially the last few weeks,
so he's looking at new cars, but he just didn't
find the right deal to pull the trigger on the
The interest rate was a little bit too high on
the loan, so he decided to stay pat for now.
Speaker 2: It's going to.
Speaker 1: Cost him up too much down the road to improve.
Right at this moment, the warning light goes on much
chak engine light goes on quite a bit. Yes, but
it turns off occasionally, and it still runs, and the
vehicle still goes and you got a good driver, and
the one and the and the oil pressure shows below
normal but not in that red danger area.
Speaker 2: Yes, how about that.
Speaker 4: That's the best, the best of a bad situation.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and thanks for calling in. Willie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Yeah, the way Willie talks, he's
got some good stories about the good old days. Let
me tell you something. I want to go and have
a little sip of bourbon with Willie. Okay, now we're
not gonna go. We're gonna sip off. You gotta splash
cherry sprite in it. You don't drink anything without like
some kind of fruit water. I don't believe you, bourbon branch.
When's the last time you had a bourbon water?
Speaker 4: Been a while?
Speaker 2: He never in your life?
Speaker 4: Howbout we do whiskey instead?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, whiskey is a bourbon? Bourbon is whiskey?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's very confusing.
Speaker 2: I know you going Kentucky straight.
Speaker 1: Mmm. No, I'm gonna but Willie and I are gonna
sip on it. We're gonna talk about this, and I
don't want to be discussed. I want to be disappointed,
but not discussed. You can have a cigar too.
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, or I'll just I'll just have a Swiss
sweet in my mouth and just chew on it.
Speaker 2: That's weird. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1: The same guessing is were there, and you know what,
here's what I'll do, and I'll mark I'm marking it
here on November the seventh time I'm wrong. If the
everything works out well and the Texans reached new plateaus
at least AFC Championship game, I will apologize on air.
Speaker 2: I can do that.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. This is not a hot take.
This is me being realist here. I will throw a
statement at you and you can choose to buy or
sell it. I don't know if it's true either. Is
this a vote of confidence in Jarrett Patterson?
Speaker 4: You better not be?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 4: Friend of mine?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Friend of the show. Oh you could say that. Okay,
he's an offensive line guru. Okay, doesn't like him.
Speaker 2: Is this the same friend that really likes Kenyon Green though? Yes? Okay,
but that guy knows his stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, that guy told me because we were talking about it.
Just keep a couple of nights ago. Really will were
you guys talking? He called me really, Oh, I know why.
You really don't know the real reason why, but it
was part of the conversation. Okay, Rich and Katie on
seven out of your Towel forty one high.
Speaker 2: Rich, how you doing good?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 6: Hey listen, been listening to your show for a long time.
Love it, But just wanted to give you my two
cents on the situation with offensive line and people calling
in and talking about Nick's got to go and buy everybody.
I'm sure the Texans have a plan.
Speaker 5: They don't have the one year plan.
Speaker 6: They probably have two, three, four or five year plan.
Speaker 2: And what I've been.
Speaker 6: Saying the last couple of weeks, got to have two
to tango when it comes to a trade. And I'm
sure Nick, again, in my opinion, these other teams have
been probably asking for quite a bit in return. So
I think Nick is trying to do the best he
can with what they've done over the off season and
what's happened this year. And I just think he doesn't
want to give up a lot of trade capital my opinion,
but to call for firing him. And plus two, you
bring in a lineman gotta take a least probably a
week or two, even if he's a veteran to understand
the calls and what's going going on. So take time
to for an offensive line to jail. And uh, here's lastly,
I'll say this. I think if the Texans can get
out of the regular season without any more major injuries
and work on this offensive line in other areas that
you know, it's that's why they call it a season.
They get into the playoffs with that offensive line playing
a little bit better, more efficient for TECHDJ who knows
what happened at the dance And uh, that's all I
can say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, I want to make sure that
people can turn in and out. I'm not calling for
nicosso will be fired a caller did that. I want
to make sure I'm very clear. I think Nick Cassaro
has done, generally speaking, a very good job. You can't
be thinking about the future about there's nothing about the
future that says sixth and seventh round picks and fifth
round picks create your future high end prospects in minor
league baseball. That's your future. Fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round
picks add layers to your team, and you can find
a you know, a you can find the starters in
those late rounds. It's certainly very impossible, but no one
builds their team around giving up an extra fifth round pick.
And to be really honest, not that I've looked at
every NFL trade so far, but it feels like the
number of trades that have happened so far in a
very active pre trade deadline season have not involved first
or second round selections. I think there was maybe a third,
It was maybe given somebody, but it's mostly people think
mostly four. You see anything over a fourth, they could
maybe the DeVante Adams was the fourth that could be
a third with if he makes all Pro and plays
over sixty percent of a tame, you're not gonna be
able to find You're gonna, I should say this. You're
you could certainly find a swing guard, slash tackle, been there,
done that for less than anything. You would consider it
mortgaging the future. And I don't think because Sario did
his job on this particular situation, because I don't think
the people that I trusted look at the offensive line
says you had to do something. Mike Williams was a fifth,
Marshawn Lattimore was a third and a fourth, A third,
fourth and sixth for a fifth hmm yeah, for the
most part, that was probably the biggest one. Marshawn Lattimore
a very good defensive player. Yeah, who's still who's still
very very much in the prime of his career. Cam
Robinson's a good left tackle. That costs you a fifth.
So I mean, if we go on the Cam Robinson,
that's what the Vikings. The Vikings traded for Cam Robinson
and a seventh and gave up a fifth, and that's
for an impact left tackle. So you have to think
that a guard would have cost you less than a fifth.
So we're thinking fifth max probably a sixth, So I yeah,
that could have been done.
Speaker 2: I would think.
Speaker 4: Now I'm more mad than I was twenty five minutes
ago when I first of the comments.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.