Speaker 1: Hello everybody, thank you for joining us again. Today I'm
pleased to welcome Mike Bollinger, skipper of the Two Brothers,
fishing out of Bricksham. In the first of our mini series,
I spoke with Mark and Simon from the Manufacturer's Assured Marine.
Then the chatted with Dave Stevens, skipper fishing out of Newlin,
and today I'm chatting with Mike. Both Mike and David
are the hands on guys using the coated propeller, and
in fishing, results matter more than claims. If a propeller
coating improves efficiency, reduces fouling, or saves fuel, fishermen say yes, please,
I want some of that. So let's hear from a
man who actually has the coating on his propeller. Home mate,
Welcome to the Seafood Matters.
Speaker 2: Hello Jim, Hello everybody, and well pleased to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you mag for our listeners.
Tell us where your career started and what you've come
through and get where you are a well.
Speaker 2: Lots and lots of years ago I worked on the
little higher boats down our little local harbor, and it
was a school job and we used to hire the
boats out to the public and you know, maintain the boats,
look after and sort the people out and rescue them
when they got in trouble and stuff like that. I
did a couple of seasons of that, and when I
was a youngster there was a big crabb used to
come into harbor periodically of the big ties to do
jobs and bits and pieces, and I thought, Wow, that
looks fantastic. I want to do that for a job,
you know. I didn't want to do anything else really,
so kind of ended up even before I left school. Really,
I ended up kind of getting to go on a
few of the small local crabbs and it kind of
went from there really, and the big crab that used
to come in the harbor, I had a chance to
go on that for a week when I was fifteen,
and it was fantastic, So I never looked back from that,
went on and it worked on several different boats over
a number of years, and then went trawling for some
time as well. Worked on some trawlers and stuff like that.
And I even had my own small boat years ago
and had some pots and things and worked those myself
in the summer, and then went on the bigger boats
in the winter. And stuff like that. So it kind
of just happened. It was just how it ended up,
you know. Being later, I worked on bigger boats and
we fished all around the country. But when when my
kids come along, just before my kids come along, I
left the fishing industry for a number of years and
got involved in the motor trade and got into mots
and vehicle repairs and and sort of servicing and things
like that. And I did that for a good few years,
probably twelve, maybe a bit longer fifteen years or something.
And I didn't really like it, and I always wanted
to go back to C. So I hatched a plan
and I totally rebuilt a boat myself and got her
all through the MCA and everything like that, and I
went back to C sold the garage business, and we
kind of carried on being a fisherman. Went from there,
sold that boat, then bought the one that I've got now,
and here we are, middle of the winter doing his best.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And so you obviously got the stage
when you built up your own business and the motor trade.
When you sold your garage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was something worth selling, But you
know that was that's too much on shore for me
or you know, too much normal. I just always want
to go back to see.
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't reach the stage? Did you where
you had the plug? Would you buy a second hand
car from us?
Speaker 2: Mine? We didn't really get into car sales very much.
That didn't really fit hand in hand with M F
T s and things like that. That was conflicting, like
you know, no, you know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it takes a different person.
Speaker 2: I think it does. Yeah, I think it absolutely does
take a different kind of person to be successful, you know,
second and car salesman perhaps.
Speaker 1: And am I even seeing you morals? Is built the board?
Speaker 2: I know it's the one before the brenda. See the
previous one was pretty much, you know, right from right
back to a scratch, and that was a big a job.
Spent five years on that.
Speaker 1: It must give you a tremendous knowledge over the board
when you've done that.
Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, it was fantastic because I knowing every
inch of it and knowing that everything was okay and
that everything worked gave you a tremendous confidence in it,
which I've you know, which I'm trying to replicate now
with the boat that I've got. Now I'm trying to
work my way through it and make sure everything's absolutely perfect,
but have a way to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, on the word perfect, I know it's that. What
I'm going to see, I just know is not fishing.
Really it did, But I was having a gord making
my own sour dough breads at home, and I learned
it from what you could comfortably call a master baker.
He was a real master of the job over fifty
years experience. I was talking to him one day and
he says, how's about bread? How are you getting on
with the bread? And I says, well, Clive, this is
pretty good. This is and even although I don't get
it right, I says, I can still eat my mistakes.
But I don't reach perfection. He says, hey, whoa, whoa
wo slow down. He says, I'm over fifty years in
it and I haven't found perfection.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty much impossible thing to find. I think,
so say definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So about your boat, the size, gear type, big off
grounds and working.
Speaker 2: You kind of it's a ten meter stale trouer. She's
got an eight XB Gardener engine. She's quite old school. Really,
I suppose when we work up just sort of twelve
miles off shore really with most of what we do
is inside the twelve mile limit, you know, outside the three,
a lot of it, some of it inside the three.
We generally we work different types of trolls different times
of the year. We've got like a ten inch rubber
foot rope troll that we use sometimes, and then we've
got we've got the medium sort of mini hopper troll
on at the moment, generally eight fathom trolls worked with
a sixty two hundred fathom of bridle and yeah, you
know that's generally that we have got a different setup
we use as well. We use a triple rig for
the soul. That's quite interesting. That's different. We'll be swapping
over to that and doing some nights again in the
summer where we tow the three trolls at once.
Speaker 1: And when you say Saul Media dover dover saw, yeah, yeah,
I'll be working at the dark yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we do nights for that. I see those.
It's not so bad in the summer, worst of the sunshine. Yeah, yeah,
it's okay. It's a little bit funny twisting yourself around
to work on nights, but you know, it's it's okay
once you get used to it, and you get a
few days right, you know, so you're used to it,
it's okay.
Speaker 1: And of course the dover Us all catching that. I'm
sure you've been there a bit. You're talking to fisherman
and a good haul. It's always welcome, I know. But
it's always quantuity how much. But when you look at
when you think of dover Us all, well, it can
be less than maybe yes, yes it's bul bulk than
or something, but the value.
Speaker 2: Is yeah, I find it amazing sometimes and you look
at you look at a handfuls full of soul and
you will think, oh, is it worth keeping them? You know?
Then you'll keep them and they will make sort of
thirty quid or something. You think, yeah, it's only a
few fish. And then we landed five hundred kilos of
dog fish the other day, rough dogs and they made
forty six pounds something. So you know, it's it's funny
how the price is vary for different stuff.
Speaker 1: When you see that, is that the spur dog?
Speaker 2: No, that's just the spotty dogs they go for bait
for well yeah, okay, but it's a yeah bold thing.
Oh no, here we're allowed to land spur dogs again now,
so that's probably a good thing.
Speaker 1: They're landing them up here, but the real bonner contention
certainly up here. I'm sure it'll be the same with you.
But obviously there's been a bond on them been landed
and because they were part of the shark family and
they weren't allowed to fish for sharks, so they couldn't
land the birdogs. And I just feel they've learned nothing.
They've learned nothing because the band hearing in the well,
certainly in the North Sea there was a herring bun
and opened it again. The market had.
Speaker 2: Gone, yes, that's the problem with it, isn't it.
Speaker 1: And then they do the exact same with spur dogs
and in the exact same position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they used to be worth they were four
pounds of kilo, weren't they, or maybe more that they
were worthwhile catching. Yeah, but like you say, now we
are allowed to land them again now, but I've landed
them last last year definitely, and they're not sold.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It seems it's such a shame when you catch something
and you know you're going to land it and it
doesn't sell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fantastic silo in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember seeing longline in boats go after them
and do very well. Yeah, sometimes you know, and then
still fish. Never tried it. It's a beautiful fish keen
on a bit of haddock, but I've never tried spur dog.
Speaker 1: That's the fush and and then you come in out no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely had it bad cooked in beef dripping,
not really good as it, but it's very nice.
Speaker 1: Using the cording. What problems were you experiencing we poll in, Yeah,
if we lost our corrosion or.
Speaker 2: We definitely some of the problems I didn't realize we
were kind of having, but we were certainly having fouling problems.
We get a few barnacles on the propeller and that
sort of take the efficiency out, you know, and it
wouldn't be quite as good as it was. Not until
we put the coating on did I realize it was
so much smoother. It the operation of the propeller was smoother.
It was strange, it was. It was quite quite a difference,
and I kept thinking to myself, is this me or
am I just imagining this? But you know, we started
seeing a little improvement in the fueld as well. So
I think on average we're probably five percent better off
of the fuel than we were before. And to be
fair as well, I don't think it's quite a while
since we put it on there as well, and we've
not been able to have a look at the propeller
since because we've been afloat the whole time. And I
don't think we're getting the fouling back because we're not
getting any of the problems that we were getting associated
with that before.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, so you know who applied the cut in?
Was it the yard manufacturer? Or did you do it
as well?
Speaker 2: Manufacturer it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? And is that normally what would be the
kiss they would want to do that.
Speaker 2: I think they did it because it was one of
the early ones, but I think they'd be happy for
me to do it as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, and hosted it forward or that was the preparation.
Speaker 2: The preparation was quite easy. I just cleaned the propeller thoroughly,
and and that was it really instead of refresher war
trying it and the way we go.
Speaker 1: And were you skeptical before seeing it in the world.
Speaker 2: I was. I wouldn't say skeptical, but I was surprised
that it was going to make much difference. I think
that's probably the best way of putting it. Yeah, and
it did surprise me that it did make a difference to.
Speaker 1: You know what surprised me talking to Mark, he thought
it was more important the surface. He thought the surface
THEREI had sort of tell you that's the word I mean,
And he thought it was more important having in the
propeller than the whole.
Speaker 2: I think it is certainly for a trauner or a
slow speed vessel, because when you think about it, most
of our time spent around three knots, but the propeller's
working as if it was trying to do seven or
eight knots. So the that's the thing that's really working hard.
You know, you're not trying to push the boat through
the water very fast. So I don't think it's a
I think it's just the fact that it's more of
a a high effort thing, isn't it. It's a high
The propellers are very very critical to the operation. I mean,
anything you can do to improve that, it's got to
be I think would make a significant difference.
Speaker 1: Did you at any day think this is just another
expensive experiment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of you live in hope that it's
going to work, didn't you and I must have been.
I was quite pleased, you know, pleased with the results.
You know, I always thinking about anti failing the propeller anyway,
but I'm glad I didn't. You know, we put this
stuff on it instead.
Speaker 1: And you've noticed measurable difference and fuel consumption. What about
the leg of vibration or carvertation rpm at cruising speed
and noise or that.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that I didn't realize that we had
a little bit of an issue with before, was the
noise and the smoothness. I just thought that's how it was.
But when we obviously applied the stuff and tried it,
I thought, wow, that's that seems just everything seems smoother,
you know, the fact when you're towing the gear and
your note down at the back of the boat picking
up the fish, you're right above more or less where
the propeller is, and and everything just seemed to flow nice. Okay,
it's difficult to explain. It didn't seem to be chomping
away at the water quite so much. But yeah, and
I think we're definitely about five percent up on fuel
efficiency within what we were now I don't really I
don't really try to travel flat out, as it were,
but obviously try a little bit. And I think we
gained a little bit flat out too. If you wanted
to go faster. It did help a little bit top end,
But we don't steam around flat out, so you know,
that's not so much a consideration, but it did seem
to I mean, we've got to stage now where the
rest of the boat's got a little bit of weed
on it, and it doesn't seem to be hurting as
as much as it did before. So I'm pretty convinced
that when we do pull her out the water, I
think the propeller will still be clean.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I'm sure you get it down near
because if anything, you'll probably be warmer water than we
are up here. But I've seen many boats maybe they've
been tied up a few weeks for some reason or another,
depending on it would be maybe depending on what sort
of horrbor or that they were tied up, and but
my goodness, the whole hole would be just caught it yea,
and things hanging from it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do get that we're quite a high fouling
harbor because we're afloat all the time and we're out
in the outer harbor. So I guess it's got a
nice clean supply of nutrients or whatever it needs to survive.
So you do. Stuff does grow out there very well.
Even the more strops off the more and strops off
the bow of the boat that shackled to the mooring. Boy,
you chuck them over every day and leave them in
the water. They've got weed on them. You know, they're
only in the water half the time. Yeah, so it
grows well there. Huh that bricks? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it renowned for that?
Speaker 2: I think yeah. I think it's always been a popular
area for barnacles and you know, seaweed.
Speaker 1: Would you say this has made yea more aware of
that sort of things than you would have been in
the past.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you're looking at it more. I mean
I've always known that the cleaner everything is, and the
you know, smoother everything is, the more efficient you are.
But it's just maybe pleased. It's kind of it's cut
me a bit of slack, if you like, with the
keeping the propeller clean and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think would you have been to say a
few weeks so I don't know how long you've had it,
and do give it a sort of first inspection.
Speaker 2: I'd like to. I mean, I haven't been able to,
and it's it's a good long while. It's been on
ten months I think now, and it still seems to
be doing its thing.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, that's quick good.
Speaker 2: It was amazed. I was thinking, you know, it might
is something that may be okay for work. So I've
tried something before, which was like a propell of grease.
You buy an anti pouling grease that worked well for
a number of months, but then it had come off.
You know, I think I get the feeling that this
is still there in the Yeah, seeing the way that
the boat's handling.
Speaker 1: Because when you think of were are geographically and go
back ten months, you've had all the different seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, ok, summer.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting also that you're it's in your main Oh.
I would like to. I would like to try it
now and it's been ten months, rather and feel something
and think, oh, I think there's something I need to
see to hear. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I it's been good. I'd certainly use it again, definitely.
Speaker 1: And what did you say it looked like compared to
an and caught a prop at the same stage, it
would probably be what you need to get it looked at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it would be quite well barnacled
by now around the boss and the first part of
the blades, they seem to cope. Okay, we've been spinned
round a bit. Yeah, there'd be a bit of growth
on it already. I would have thought, I think we're
going to try and film it with a GoPro camera
and have a look and see if we can. Yeah,
a look at it.
Speaker 1: It's all quite busting it and really the thing that
the thing that I found incredible speaking to Mark, it
all was born from working with the most Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite quite a different thing, but a similar sort
of application. I suppose that.
Speaker 1: We could look at people's teeth and then march it
with props propeller than the.
Speaker 2: Censor dine for your propeller.
Speaker 1: If we dived on your prop sort of mid season,
you know what we would see.
Speaker 2: The smile, the bronze smile. I would have thought, good answer, fantastic.
Do you do you know if I wasn't taken any
knocks or I think I think that was before I did.
I didn't have something to go through it, but it
was before we put the coasting on it. So no,
it's been okay, it's been. It's been clear ever since.
That's the good thing about not grounding out. Not going
near anywhere too shadows lessons you're of picking up stuff
the propellers in the nozzle too, so it's it's quite good.
I've not picked any boys up as we've steamed past
them or anything, or had any trouble like that fingers
crossed touch would we'd have the gear out of the
propeller as well, so you know, that's always a goodness.
Speaker 1: It's a court nozzle. Will that will the nozzle be
spread as well?
Speaker 2: It wasn't last time, but I'd be keen to try that,
perhaps to coat the inside of the nozzle too, because
that's going to be another high work area, you know,
where there's a chance of some friction. I don't think
I'll be too fuss about doing the outside of the nozzle,
but certainly the inside.
Speaker 1: Do you feel as foling reduced compared to previous seasons.
Speaker 2: Or no, No, it's just the same in the harbor generally,
I think the amount of growth on the rest of
the boat. It's just as bad as it would be. Yeah,
I don't think it's possibly. I don't know if it's
any worse if it's not so sunny, but I don't
think so. I think it's still quite bad. Yeah, small
with the small dingy, the small boat that's got a
little bit on it now. And interestingly, I wonder if
I could do the propeller on the small boat as well.
That would probably be quite a good good shout that doesn't.
Speaker 1: Go you know, obviously I don't know your area, but
it would sound the fact that you're there must be
some positive event. The fact that you're you're a lot
of the main that there's something not great and you need.
Speaker 2: No Definitely straight away when we put it on, I
pulled out the harbor, I thought, wow, that doesn't seem different.
It was quite you know, quite apparent to me, and
and part of me was thinking, maybe that's like a
me thinking actuse I wanted it to be like that.
But I think it was definitely a lot better. You know,
this smoothness of it do you have?
Speaker 1: When I was talking to him, he felt that it
was interested in the fact that it wasn't hard. Yeah,
he thought, oh it was maybe better. I wonder if
it is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a strange thing, isn't it. Uh huh
strange coat.
Speaker 1: Do you feel if part of it chips? Do you
think it may be compromises a rest?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I mean, not being able to see
how it's getting on. Yeah, I think maybe not. Maybe
the fact that it's kind of softer or something maybe
helpful to that. I don't know. You know, if you
in an area where you were getting a lot of
sand through it, I don't know. Maybe, I'm sure you know,
probably still be all right.
Speaker 1: Do you feel there's any effects from if you were
in sand or got at that taper bottom y'es? I
had to say, isn't it you know, wet trying it?
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It's a strange thing, isn't it.
I mean, if you've got stones going through and things
like that, maybe, but ah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I genuinely extended the team between pop cleans or lifting.
Speaker 2: It has for me because I'm I'm still not lifted out.
I was supposed to be lifted out in February. Just
just now that we haven't, you know, we haven't yet,
so but I think it has still quite happy without
the boat fields. It doesn't feel heavily fouled or anything
because you can feel the difference in it. Yeah, see
the steaming. When you do steam, you know, you sort
of notice the reduction and speed a little bit and
things like that. And I don't seem to have got
that this year.
Speaker 1: So I suppose it comes down to owned that's money
as well.
Speaker 2: It's the The fuel is the big one, isn't it,
especially if the price of fuel is going to go
up like they say it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I was thinking more have been taken
out the water less of fishing tam that's right, Yeah, yeah,
would you say it's worth the cost?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so. On the five percent fuel saving
it has to be, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: And I suppose the bigger you go with the vessel there,
bigger percentage is going to be well, even if the
percentage stayed the same, it would be just more effective,
you know, because you'd be using more fuel as a
bigger boat.
Speaker 2: So you know, yes, if you had a five brad
propeller instead of a four, it might be slightly more
efficient because you've got more propeller moving in the water
to make slippery.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I mean, reduce the frictional Yeah, bigger the propeller than
Probably the bigger the propeller is the more you're going
to save.
Speaker 1: Any board I've ever worked with for feeling vibration, they
just feel they've got to get the mm hmm. Get
out of the water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get it out. I have a look at it,
make sure everything's okay. Yeah, we've gained the vibration back
this year, which is nice, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And would you say I suppose the fuel
saving will be the biggest benefit, but.
Speaker 2: Would it be Yeah, I think so. Definitely. Anything that
can save you some fuel nowadays, it's going to be
a good thing.
Speaker 1: Well, from the horror stories i'm hearing with the situation
in the Middle East, it's not going to have the
story is not going to have a happy ending.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not good.
Speaker 1: It would you spend money if doing it again on
another board, would you feel that was a good investment?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I want to get the best out of the boat,
and I think that's the way to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there anything that would make you stop up
using it?
Speaker 2: I suppose if it got cost prohibitive, that's probably the
only thing, isn't it if they got expensive perhaps, or
you know that there's nothing in the way that it works.
There's nothing that's done that I'm disappointed with, that's for sure.
Like you know, yeah, nothing at all. There's been nothing
negative about it at all.
Speaker 1: That's good because sometimes you would have a situation where
there was a benefit but there was a down't say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not really a downside. I mean you've got
to clean the propeller anyway, so you know, clean the propellers.
Speaker 1: From your experience with it, is there anybody who you
recommend that do and who you wouldn't?
Speaker 2: I think anybody with an engine and propeller, really it
would be it's got to be beneficial too, isn't it.
The propeller that probably the more beneficial it would be.
But you know, the higher you say that, I mean,
I suppose a fast boat, it might be very beneficial
for two because again the propeller's working very fast, so
you know, it's probably a good all rounder for that.
If you had a high speed boat with a you know,
like a one and a half to one reduction gear
box or something that propellers going around a lot more
times so you know, any reduction in friction there has
got to be a good thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. Indeed, if another skipper was to ask
you about it, what would you what would you tell them?
Speaker 2: I'm pleased with it, give it a go, you know,
it's something that I'm pleased with it. So you know,
I'll be putting it on next year as well if
I need to do.
Speaker 1: You know how long you know, would it lasts and
it would need to be courted again?
Speaker 2: No? No, not sure that's the question. But like I said, say,
it still feels quite good. You know, I have to
quite a long stretch now, So I mean, you know,
even if it was something you did once a year
with your anti founding, it would be acceptable.
Speaker 1: I think, I take it from what you've said. There's
a question I was going to ask you, but I
think you've answered it well enough. Would anything make you
stop using it?
Speaker 2: That's it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Not really? Yeah, if I couldn't get hold of it,
I suppose you know, that's probably it, really, isn't it.
If it was scarily expensive, perhaps not. You know, you
have to weigh that up against your fuel costs and yeah,
you know, your savings.
Speaker 1: Here's a tester for your honesty, did you at any
time think that there was just another expensive experiment? You know?
Speaker 2: When it went on, I was unsure of how how
good it would be, having, like I said before, used
the propeller anti fair in Greece on the you know,
and that lasted for a much you know, a short
length of time, shall we say, And this does seem
to have outlasted that. So that's I think it's quite
he's onto something with this, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's quat pusson build up. Make Do you have a
social media presence? Are going to listeners follow you online?
Speaker 2: I'm not overly big online, but I do have an
Instagram account and I do have a Facebook thing because
I use messenger. So yeah, I'm going to ask me
what my Instagram thing isn't you and I'm going.
Speaker 1: To not know that.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just me on Facebook?
Speaker 1: Is my voluner? Yah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? In a picture of the boat so it's just
pretty high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And have you got anything about the board that
people can follow?
Speaker 2: And no, I haven't really the building of it or
I have the previous boat that I read, Yeah, the
previous one that was on that's on a photo sharing
website called flicker and there's a lot of pictures in
the build on that one, but I haven't got much
about this one online, so it's the other one's worth
it look definitely okay. I what the name of the board?
That boat was called Brenda C.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you got the next board, believe I
mean we are seeing up here. If you change the name,
you changed the luck.
Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, I didn't change the name. That's why
both saying that. Though the boat that I've got now
was with an original built originally with a different name,
and part of we did think maybe I should change
it back to the original name. But it's still okay
as it is, so you know, we might just leave it.
Speaker 1: And there's a blend of sea still fishing, I.
Speaker 2: Believe so, yes, And she was up until when was
our last year from the chap back end of last year,
so she was still fishing. Then she's still on the register.
Speaker 1: So have you any experience of this octopus bloom? Yeah?
Speaker 2: For us, it's probably a little bit of a bonus
really if we can catch a few octopus at the
same time, it's extra money. We did see quite a
few last summer back end of last summer so you know,
I don't know. We caught one the other day, so
perhaps there is still a few around. I think they
were a little bit more to the west. I don't
think they come much further east than us.
Speaker 1: I just often hiding. People talk about it, and I've
done a podcast with doctor brace Sewer, who did a
review on it, and I just wonder from what I
hear for some of the boards, I believe it's been
horrendous for crabbers and guys reports. You would have thought
they would fish it out if they're catching quantities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder. Yeah, I don't know. I looked back
and from what I could see in history, there was
another octopus belaume in about nineteen fifty one, and there
was another one in about eighteen ninety nine, similar to
what we're experiencing now. Are the reason I remember that
because years and years ago, when I had a small
boat in some pots, I caught an octopus in one
of my pots, and I used to supply things to
the local aquarium, you know, odd fish and things and
bits and pieces that they might want to have in
the aquarium, and I'd taken the octopus assure bucket. I'm
one of the old boys who was a fisherman of
many many years ago, back in the fifties. I guess
he said, oh, you want to watch them, boy. I
suppose that he said, well, they nearly finished us in
the fifties, and they did, like you know, they just
said the bloom and it wiped out a lot of
the crab and lobster. It came on mass and dematched it. Yeah.
Here we are, well seventy five years later and sort
of another run of them. That's the third cycle that
anybody's documented over, you know, one hundred and twenty five
years or so.
Speaker 1: I supposable of environmental in its claimate change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's all everything is to do with
climate change.
Speaker 1: Is big. Yeah, yeah, well make I would just say
thank you very much. That's been really interesting and good
that you're keeping going and doing well.
Speaker 2: So we can you keep on keeping on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good positive way of looking at it.
Thank you, And I hope the two brothers keeps fishing
well and you can't plenty octopus to fish you do
for the grabber.
Speaker 2: We'll do our best with that, thank you very much, Yes,
we will.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Mick, Okay, thanks for not