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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, thank you for joining us again. Today I'm

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pleased to welcome Mike Bollinger, skipper of the Two Brothers,

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fishing out of Bricksham. In the first of our mini series,

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I spoke with Mark and Simon from the Manufacturer's Assured Marine.

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Then the chatted with Dave Stevens, skipper fishing out of Newlin,

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and today I'm chatting with Mike. Both Mike and David

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are the hands on guys using the coated propeller, and

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in fishing, results matter more than claims. If a propeller

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coating improves efficiency, reduces fouling, or saves fuel, fishermen say yes, please,

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I want some of that. So let's hear from a

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man who actually has the coating on his propeller. Home mate,

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Welcome to the Seafood Matters.

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Speaker 2: Hello Jim, Hello everybody, and well pleased to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you mag for our listeners.

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Tell us where your career started and what you've come

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through and get where you are a well.

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Speaker 2: Lots and lots of years ago I worked on the

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little higher boats down our little local harbor, and it

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was a school job and we used to hire the

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boats out to the public and you know, maintain the boats,

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look after and sort the people out and rescue them

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when they got in trouble and stuff like that. I

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did a couple of seasons of that, and when I

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was a youngster there was a big crabb used to

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come into harbor periodically of the big ties to do

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jobs and bits and pieces, and I thought, Wow, that

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looks fantastic. I want to do that for a job,

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you know. I didn't want to do anything else really,

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so kind of ended up even before I left school. Really,

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I ended up kind of getting to go on a

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few of the small local crabbs and it kind of

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went from there really, and the big crab that used

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to come in the harbor, I had a chance to

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go on that for a week when I was fifteen,

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and it was fantastic, So I never looked back from that,

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went on and it worked on several different boats over

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a number of years, and then went trawling for some

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time as well. Worked on some trawlers and stuff like that.

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And I even had my own small boat years ago

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and had some pots and things and worked those myself

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in the summer, and then went on the bigger boats

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in the winter. And stuff like that. So it kind

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of just happened. It was just how it ended up,

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you know. Being later, I worked on bigger boats and

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we fished all around the country. But when when my

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kids come along, just before my kids come along, I

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left the fishing industry for a number of years and

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got involved in the motor trade and got into mots

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and vehicle repairs and and sort of servicing and things

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like that. And I did that for a good few years,

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probably twelve, maybe a bit longer fifteen years or something.

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And I didn't really like it, and I always wanted

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to go back to C. So I hatched a plan

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and I totally rebuilt a boat myself and got her

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all through the MCA and everything like that, and I

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went back to C sold the garage business, and we

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kind of carried on being a fisherman. Went from there,

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sold that boat, then bought the one that I've got now,

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and here we are, middle of the winter doing his best.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And so you obviously got the stage

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when you built up your own business and the motor trade.

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When you sold your garage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was something worth selling, But you

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know that was that's too much on shore for me

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or you know, too much normal. I just always want

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to go back to see.

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Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't reach the stage? Did you where

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you had the plug? Would you buy a second hand

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car from us?

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Speaker 2: Mine? We didn't really get into car sales very much.

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That didn't really fit hand in hand with M F

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T s and things like that. That was conflicting, like

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you know, no, you know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it takes a different person.

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Speaker 2: I think it does. Yeah, I think it absolutely does

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take a different kind of person to be successful, you know,

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second and car salesman perhaps.

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Speaker 1: And am I even seeing you morals? Is built the board?

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Speaker 2: I know it's the one before the brenda. See the

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previous one was pretty much, you know, right from right

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back to a scratch, and that was a big a job.

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Spent five years on that.

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Speaker 1: It must give you a tremendous knowledge over the board

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when you've done that.

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Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, it was fantastic because I knowing every

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inch of it and knowing that everything was okay and

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that everything worked gave you a tremendous confidence in it,

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which I've you know, which I'm trying to replicate now

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with the boat that I've got. Now I'm trying to

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work my way through it and make sure everything's absolutely perfect,

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but have a way to go. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, on the word perfect, I know it's that. What

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I'm going to see, I just know is not fishing.

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Really it did, But I was having a gord making

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my own sour dough breads at home, and I learned

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it from what you could comfortably call a master baker.

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He was a real master of the job over fifty

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years experience. I was talking to him one day and

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he says, how's about bread? How are you getting on

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with the bread? And I says, well, Clive, this is

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pretty good. This is and even although I don't get

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it right, I says, I can still eat my mistakes.

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But I don't reach perfection. He says, hey, whoa, whoa

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wo slow down. He says, I'm over fifty years in

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it and I haven't found perfection.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty much impossible thing to find. I think,

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so say definitely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So about your boat, the size, gear type, big off

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grounds and working.

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Speaker 2: You kind of it's a ten meter stale trouer. She's

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got an eight XB Gardener engine. She's quite old school. Really,

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I suppose when we work up just sort of twelve

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miles off shore really with most of what we do

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is inside the twelve mile limit, you know, outside the three,

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a lot of it, some of it inside the three.

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We generally we work different types of trolls different times

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of the year. We've got like a ten inch rubber

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foot rope troll that we use sometimes, and then we've

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got we've got the medium sort of mini hopper troll

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on at the moment, generally eight fathom trolls worked with

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a sixty two hundred fathom of bridle and yeah, you

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know that's generally that we have got a different setup

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we use as well. We use a triple rig for

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the soul. That's quite interesting. That's different. We'll be swapping

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over to that and doing some nights again in the

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summer where we tow the three trolls at once.

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Speaker 1: And when you say Saul Media dover dover saw, yeah, yeah,

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I'll be working at the dark yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we do nights for that. I see those.

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It's not so bad in the summer, worst of the sunshine. Yeah, yeah,

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it's okay. It's a little bit funny twisting yourself around

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to work on nights, but you know, it's it's okay

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once you get used to it, and you get a

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few days right, you know, so you're used to it,

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it's okay.

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Speaker 1: And of course the dover Us all catching that. I'm

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sure you've been there a bit. You're talking to fisherman

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and a good haul. It's always welcome, I know. But

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it's always quantuity how much. But when you look at

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when you think of dover Us all, well, it can

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be less than maybe yes, yes it's bul bulk than

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or something, but the value.

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Speaker 2: Is yeah, I find it amazing sometimes and you look

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at you look at a handfuls full of soul and

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you will think, oh, is it worth keeping them? You know?

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Then you'll keep them and they will make sort of

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thirty quid or something. You think, yeah, it's only a

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few fish. And then we landed five hundred kilos of

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dog fish the other day, rough dogs and they made

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forty six pounds something. So you know, it's it's funny

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how the price is vary for different stuff.

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Speaker 1: When you see that, is that the spur dog?

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Speaker 2: No, that's just the spotty dogs they go for bait

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for well yeah, okay, but it's a yeah bold thing.

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Oh no, here we're allowed to land spur dogs again now,

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so that's probably a good thing.

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Speaker 1: They're landing them up here, but the real bonner contention

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certainly up here. I'm sure it'll be the same with you.

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But obviously there's been a bond on them been landed

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and because they were part of the shark family and

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they weren't allowed to fish for sharks, so they couldn't

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land the birdogs. And I just feel they've learned nothing.

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They've learned nothing because the band hearing in the well,

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certainly in the North Sea there was a herring bun

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and opened it again. The market had.

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Speaker 2: Gone, yes, that's the problem with it, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: And then they do the exact same with spur dogs

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and in the exact same position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they used to be worth they were four

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pounds of kilo, weren't they, or maybe more that they

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were worthwhile catching. Yeah, but like you say, now we

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are allowed to land them again now, but I've landed

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them last last year definitely, and they're not sold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It seems it's such a shame when you catch something

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and you know you're going to land it and it

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doesn't sell you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fantastic silo in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember seeing longline in boats go after them

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and do very well. Yeah, sometimes you know, and then

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still fish. Never tried it. It's a beautiful fish keen

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on a bit of haddock, but I've never tried spur dog.

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Speaker 1: That's the fush and and then you come in out no.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely had it bad cooked in beef dripping,

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not really good as it, but it's very nice.

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Speaker 1: Using the cording. What problems were you experiencing we poll in, Yeah,

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if we lost our corrosion or.

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Speaker 2: We definitely some of the problems I didn't realize we

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were kind of having, but we were certainly having fouling problems.

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We get a few barnacles on the propeller and that

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sort of take the efficiency out, you know, and it

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wouldn't be quite as good as it was. Not until

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we put the coating on did I realize it was

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so much smoother. It the operation of the propeller was smoother.

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It was strange, it was. It was quite quite a difference,

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and I kept thinking to myself, is this me or

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am I just imagining this? But you know, we started

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seeing a little improvement in the fueld as well. So

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I think on average we're probably five percent better off

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of the fuel than we were before. And to be

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fair as well, I don't think it's quite a while

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since we put it on there as well, and we've

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not been able to have a look at the propeller

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since because we've been afloat the whole time. And I

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don't think we're getting the fouling back because we're not

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getting any of the problems that we were getting associated

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with that before.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, so you know who applied the cut in?

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Was it the yard manufacturer? Or did you do it

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as well?

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Speaker 2: Manufacturer it?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? And is that normally what would be the

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kiss they would want to do that.

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Speaker 2: I think they did it because it was one of

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the early ones, but I think they'd be happy for

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me to do it as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and hosted it forward or that was the preparation.

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Speaker 2: The preparation was quite easy. I just cleaned the propeller thoroughly,

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and and that was it really instead of refresher war

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trying it and the way we go.

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Speaker 1: And were you skeptical before seeing it in the world.

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Speaker 2: I was. I wouldn't say skeptical, but I was surprised

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that it was going to make much difference. I think

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that's probably the best way of putting it. Yeah, and

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it did surprise me that it did make a difference to.

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Speaker 1: You know what surprised me talking to Mark, he thought

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it was more important the surface. He thought the surface

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THEREI had sort of tell you that's the word I mean,

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And he thought it was more important having in the

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propeller than the whole.

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Speaker 2: I think it is certainly for a trauner or a

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slow speed vessel, because when you think about it, most

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of our time spent around three knots, but the propeller's

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working as if it was trying to do seven or

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eight knots. So the that's the thing that's really working hard.

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the water very fast. So I don't think it's a

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I think it's just the fact that it's more of

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a a high effort thing, isn't it. It's a high

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anything you can do to improve that, it's got to

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be I think would make a significant difference.

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Speaker 1: Did you at any day think this is just another

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expensive experiment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of you live in hope that it's

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going to work, didn't you and I must have been.

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I was quite pleased, you know, pleased with the results.

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but I'm glad I didn't. You know, we put this

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stuff on it instead.

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Speaker 1: And you've noticed measurable difference and fuel consumption. What about

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the leg of vibration or carvertation rpm at cruising speed

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and noise or that.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that I didn't realize that we had

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a little bit of an issue with before, was the

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noise and the smoothness. I just thought that's how it was.

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But when we obviously applied the stuff and tried it,

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I thought, wow, that's that seems just everything seems smoother,

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you know, the fact when you're towing the gear and

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your note down at the back of the boat picking

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up the fish, you're right above more or less where

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the propeller is, and and everything just seemed to flow nice. Okay,

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it's difficult to explain. It didn't seem to be chomping

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away at the water quite so much. But yeah, and

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efficiency within what we were now I don't really I

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don't really try to travel flat out, as it were,

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but obviously try a little bit. And I think we

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gained a little bit flat out too. If you wanted

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to go faster. It did help a little bit top end,

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But we don't steam around flat out, so you know,

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that's not so much a consideration, but it did seem

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to I mean, we've got to stage now where the

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rest of the boat's got a little bit of weed

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on it, and it doesn't seem to be hurting as

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as much as it did before. So I'm pretty convinced

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that when we do pull her out the water, I

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think the propeller will still be clean.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because I'm sure you get it down near

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because if anything, you'll probably be warmer water than we

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are up here. But I've seen many boats maybe they've

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been tied up a few weeks for some reason or another,

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depending on it would be maybe depending on what sort

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of horrbor or that they were tied up, and but

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my goodness, the whole hole would be just caught it yea,

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and things hanging from it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do get that we're quite a high fouling

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harbor because we're afloat all the time and we're out

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in the outer harbor. So I guess it's got a

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nice clean supply of nutrients or whatever it needs to survive.

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So you do. Stuff does grow out there very well.

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Even the more strops off the more and strops off

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the bow of the boat that shackled to the mooring. Boy,

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you chuck them over every day and leave them in

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the water. They've got weed on them. You know, they're

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only in the water half the time. Yeah, so it

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grows well there. Huh that bricks? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is it renowned for that?

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Speaker 2: I think yeah. I think it's always been a popular

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area for barnacles and you know, seaweed.

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Speaker 1: Would you say this has made yea more aware of

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that sort of things than you would have been in

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the past.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you're looking at it more. I mean

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I've always known that the cleaner everything is, and the

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you know, smoother everything is, the more efficient you are.

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But it's just maybe pleased. It's kind of it's cut

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me a bit of slack, if you like, with the

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keeping the propeller clean and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think would you have been to say a

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few weeks so I don't know how long you've had it,

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and do give it a sort of first inspection.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to. I mean, I haven't been able to,

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and it's it's a good long while. It's been on

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ten months I think now, and it still seems to

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be doing its thing.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good, that's quick good.

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Speaker 2: It was amazed. I was thinking, you know, it might

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is something that may be okay for work. So I've

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tried something before, which was like a propell of grease.

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You buy an anti pouling grease that worked well for

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a number of months, but then it had come off.

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You know, I think I get the feeling that this

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is still there in the Yeah, seeing the way that

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the boat's handling.

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Speaker 1: Because when you think of were are geographically and go

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back ten months, you've had all the different seasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, ok, summer.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting also that you're it's in your main Oh.

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I would like to. I would like to try it

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now and it's been ten months, rather and feel something

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and think, oh, I think there's something I need to

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see to hear. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I it's been good. I'd certainly use it again, definitely.

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Speaker 1: And what did you say it looked like compared to

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an and caught a prop at the same stage, it

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would probably be what you need to get it looked at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it would be quite well barnacled

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by now around the boss and the first part of

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the blades, they seem to cope. Okay, we've been spinned

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round a bit. Yeah, there'd be a bit of growth

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on it already. I would have thought, I think we're

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going to try and film it with a GoPro camera

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and have a look and see if we can. Yeah,

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a look at it.

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Speaker 1: It's all quite busting it and really the thing that

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the thing that I found incredible speaking to Mark, it

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all was born from working with the most Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quite quite a different thing, but a similar sort

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of application. I suppose that.

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Speaker 1: We could look at people's teeth and then march it

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with props propeller than the.

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Speaker 2: Censor dine for your propeller.

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Speaker 1: If we dived on your prop sort of mid season,

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you know what we would see.

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Speaker 2: The smile, the bronze smile. I would have thought, good answer, fantastic.

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Do you do you know if I wasn't taken any

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knocks or I think I think that was before I did.

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I didn't have something to go through it, but it

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was before we put the coasting on it. So no,

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it's been okay, it's been. It's been clear ever since.

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That's the good thing about not grounding out. Not going

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near anywhere too shadows lessons you're of picking up stuff

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the propellers in the nozzle too, so it's it's quite good.

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I've not picked any boys up as we've steamed past

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them or anything, or had any trouble like that fingers

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crossed touch would we'd have the gear out of the

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propeller as well, so you know, that's always a goodness.

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Speaker 1: It's a court nozzle. Will that will the nozzle be

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spread as well?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't last time, but I'd be keen to try that,

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perhaps to coat the inside of the nozzle too, because

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that's going to be another high work area, you know,

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where there's a chance of some friction. I don't think

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I'll be too fuss about doing the outside of the nozzle,

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but certainly the inside.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel as foling reduced compared to previous seasons.

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Speaker 2: Or no, No, it's just the same in the harbor generally,

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I think the amount of growth on the rest of

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the boat. It's just as bad as it would be. Yeah,

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I don't think it's possibly. I don't know if it's

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any worse if it's not so sunny, but I don't

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think so. I think it's still quite bad. Yeah, small

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with the small dingy, the small boat that's got a

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little bit on it now. And interestingly, I wonder if

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I could do the propeller on the small boat as well.

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That would probably be quite a good good shout that doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Go you know, obviously I don't know your area, but

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it would sound the fact that you're there must be

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some positive event. The fact that you're you're a lot

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of the main that there's something not great and you need.

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Speaker 2: No Definitely straight away when we put it on, I

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pulled out the harbor, I thought, wow, that doesn't seem different.

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It was quite you know, quite apparent to me, and

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and part of me was thinking, maybe that's like a

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me thinking actuse I wanted it to be like that.

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But I think it was definitely a lot better. You know,

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this smoothness of it do you have?

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Speaker 1: When I was talking to him, he felt that it

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was interested in the fact that it wasn't hard. Yeah,

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he thought, oh it was maybe better. I wonder if

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it is.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a strange thing, isn't it. Uh huh

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strange coat.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel if part of it chips? Do you

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think it may be compromises a rest?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I mean, not being able to see

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how it's getting on. Yeah, I think maybe not. Maybe

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the fact that it's kind of softer or something maybe

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helpful to that. I don't know. You know, if you

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in an area where you were getting a lot of

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sand through it, I don't know. Maybe, I'm sure you know,

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probably still be all right.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel there's any effects from if you were

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in sand or got at that taper bottom y'es? I

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had to say, isn't it you know, wet trying it?

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. It's a strange thing, isn't it.

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I mean, if you've got stones going through and things

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like that, maybe, but ah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I genuinely extended the team between pop cleans or lifting.

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Speaker 2: It has for me because I'm I'm still not lifted out.

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I was supposed to be lifted out in February. Just

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just now that we haven't, you know, we haven't yet,

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so but I think it has still quite happy without

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the boat fields. It doesn't feel heavily fouled or anything

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because you can feel the difference in it. Yeah, see

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the steaming. When you do steam, you know, you sort

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of notice the reduction and speed a little bit and

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things like that. And I don't seem to have got

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that this year.

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Speaker 1: So I suppose it comes down to owned that's money

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as well.

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Speaker 2: It's the The fuel is the big one, isn't it,

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especially if the price of fuel is going to go

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up like they say it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I was thinking more have been taken

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out the water less of fishing tam that's right, Yeah, yeah,

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would you say it's worth the cost?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think so. On the five percent fuel saving

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it has to be, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: And I suppose the bigger you go with the vessel there,

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bigger percentage is going to be well, even if the

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percentage stayed the same, it would be just more effective,

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you know, because you'd be using more fuel as a

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bigger boat.

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Speaker 2: So you know, yes, if you had a five brad

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propeller instead of a four, it might be slightly more

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efficient because you've got more propeller moving in the water

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to make slippery.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 2: I mean, reduce the frictional Yeah, bigger the propeller than

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Probably the bigger the propeller is the more you're going

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to save.

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Speaker 1: Any board I've ever worked with for feeling vibration, they

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just feel they've got to get the mm hmm. Get

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out of the water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get it out. I have a look at it,

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make sure everything's okay. Yeah, we've gained the vibration back

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this year, which is nice, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And would you say I suppose the fuel

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saving will be the biggest benefit, but.

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Speaker 2: Would it be Yeah, I think so. Definitely. Anything that

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can save you some fuel nowadays, it's going to be

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a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, from the horror stories i'm hearing with the situation

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in the Middle East, it's not going to have the

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story is not going to have a happy ending.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's not good.

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Speaker 1: It would you spend money if doing it again on

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another board, would you feel that was a good investment?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would definitely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I want to get the best out of the boat,

474
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,759
and I think that's the way to do it.

475
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there anything that would make you stop up

476
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,880
using it?

477
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:07,559
Speaker 2: I suppose if it got cost prohibitive, that's probably the

478
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,519
only thing, isn't it if they got expensive perhaps, or

479
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,200
you know that there's nothing in the way that it works.

480
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:19,640
There's nothing that's done that I'm disappointed with, that's for sure.

481
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,160
Like you know, yeah, nothing at all. There's been nothing

482
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,440
negative about it at all.

483
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: That's good because sometimes you would have a situation where

484
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,279
there was a benefit but there was a down't say that.

485
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:35,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not really a downside. I mean you've got

486
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,480
to clean the propeller anyway, so you know, clean the propellers.

487
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:46,279
Speaker 1: From your experience with it, is there anybody who you

488
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,160
recommend that do and who you wouldn't?

489
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: I think anybody with an engine and propeller, really it

490
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:59,240
would be it's got to be beneficial too, isn't it.

491
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,680
The propeller that probably the more beneficial it would be.

492
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,000
But you know, the higher you say that, I mean,

493
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:09,039
I suppose a fast boat, it might be very beneficial

494
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:12,839
for two because again the propeller's working very fast, so

495
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:16,119
you know, it's probably a good all rounder for that.

496
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:19,240
If you had a high speed boat with a you know,

497
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,440
like a one and a half to one reduction gear

498
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,119
box or something that propellers going around a lot more

499
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,000
times so you know, any reduction in friction there has

500
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,119
got to be a good thing.

501
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. Indeed, if another skipper was to ask

502
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,160
you about it, what would you what would you tell them?

503
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,279
Speaker 2: I'm pleased with it, give it a go, you know,

504
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:45,079
it's something that I'm pleased with it. So you know,

505
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:47,599
I'll be putting it on next year as well if

506
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,839
I need to do.

507
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,599
Speaker 1: You know how long you know, would it lasts and

508
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,519
it would need to be courted again?

509
00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: No? No, not sure that's the question. But like I said, say,

510
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,960
it still feels quite good. You know, I have to

511
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,039
quite a long stretch now, So I mean, you know,

512
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,759
even if it was something you did once a year

513
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,079
with your anti founding, it would be acceptable.

514
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,119
Speaker 1: I think, I take it from what you've said. There's

515
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,079
a question I was going to ask you, but I

516
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,759
think you've answered it well enough. Would anything make you

517
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,119
stop using it?

518
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: That's it?

519
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: No?

520
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,119
Speaker 2: Not really? Yeah, if I couldn't get hold of it,

521
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:33,759
I suppose you know, that's probably it, really, isn't it.

522
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:39,680
If it was scarily expensive, perhaps not. You know, you

523
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,000
have to weigh that up against your fuel costs and yeah,

524
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,559
you know, your savings.

525
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Here's a tester for your honesty, did you at any

526
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:55,599
time think that there was just another expensive experiment? You know?

527
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: When it went on, I was unsure of how how

528
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:01,720
good it would be, having, like I said before, used

529
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:05,880
the propeller anti fair in Greece on the you know,

530
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:10,839
and that lasted for a much you know, a short

531
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,559
length of time, shall we say, And this does seem

532
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:16,640
to have outlasted that. So that's I think it's quite

533
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,960
he's onto something with this, I think, yeah.

534
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,079
Speaker 1: It's quat pusson build up. Make Do you have a

535
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:30,400
social media presence? Are going to listeners follow you online?

536
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,799
Speaker 2: I'm not overly big online, but I do have an

537
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,279
Instagram account and I do have a Facebook thing because

538
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:43,680
I use messenger. So yeah, I'm going to ask me

539
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:45,799
what my Instagram thing isn't you and I'm going.

540
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:46,559
Speaker 1: To not know that.

541
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,119
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just me on Facebook?

542
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,599
Speaker 1: Is my voluner? Yah?

543
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? In a picture of the boat so it's just

544
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,119
pretty high.

545
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And have you got anything about the board that

546
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:01,480
people can follow?

547
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:06,599
Speaker 2: And no, I haven't really the building of it or

548
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,160
I have the previous boat that I read, Yeah, the

549
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,880
previous one that was on that's on a photo sharing

550
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,480
website called flicker and there's a lot of pictures in

551
00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:24,039
the build on that one, but I haven't got much

552
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:29,759
about this one online, so it's the other one's worth

553
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:33,559
it look definitely okay. I what the name of the board?

554
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,599
That boat was called Brenda C.

555
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:45,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you got the next board, believe I

556
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,680
mean we are seeing up here. If you change the name,

557
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:50,880
you changed the luck.

558
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,519
Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, I didn't change the name. That's why

559
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:59,599
both saying that. Though the boat that I've got now

560
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:03,039
was with an original built originally with a different name,

561
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,079
and part of we did think maybe I should change

562
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,440
it back to the original name. But it's still okay

563
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,440
as it is, so you know, we might just leave it.

564
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:15,519
Speaker 1: And there's a blend of sea still fishing, I.

565
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: Believe so, yes, And she was up until when was

566
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,279
our last year from the chap back end of last year,

567
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,480
so she was still fishing. Then she's still on the register.

568
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:30,799
Speaker 1: So have you any experience of this octopus bloom? Yeah?

569
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,359
Speaker 2: For us, it's probably a little bit of a bonus

570
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,000
really if we can catch a few octopus at the

571
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:43,240
same time, it's extra money. We did see quite a

572
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:48,440
few last summer back end of last summer so you know,

573
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,119
I don't know. We caught one the other day, so

574
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,759
perhaps there is still a few around. I think they

575
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,839
were a little bit more to the west. I don't

576
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:58,400
think they come much further east than us.

577
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:03,079
Speaker 1: I just often hiding. People talk about it, and I've

578
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,880
done a podcast with doctor brace Sewer, who did a

579
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,880
review on it, and I just wonder from what I

580
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,280
hear for some of the boards, I believe it's been

581
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,679
horrendous for crabbers and guys reports. You would have thought

582
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:23,119
they would fish it out if they're catching quantities.

583
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder. Yeah, I don't know. I looked back

584
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,000
and from what I could see in history, there was

585
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:35,760
another octopus belaume in about nineteen fifty one, and there

586
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,960
was another one in about eighteen ninety nine, similar to

587
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,440
what we're experiencing now. Are the reason I remember that

588
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,400
because years and years ago, when I had a small

589
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,800
boat in some pots, I caught an octopus in one

590
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,519
of my pots, and I used to supply things to

591
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,760
the local aquarium, you know, odd fish and things and

592
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,039
bits and pieces that they might want to have in

593
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:01,199
the aquarium, and I'd taken the octopus assure bucket. I'm

594
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,360
one of the old boys who was a fisherman of

595
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,719
many many years ago, back in the fifties. I guess

596
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:11,039
he said, oh, you want to watch them, boy. I

597
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,199
suppose that he said, well, they nearly finished us in

598
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,360
the fifties, and they did, like you know, they just

599
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,480
said the bloom and it wiped out a lot of

600
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:25,480
the crab and lobster. It came on mass and dematched it. Yeah.

601
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:31,119
Here we are, well seventy five years later and sort

602
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:34,519
of another run of them. That's the third cycle that

603
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:38,719
anybody's documented over, you know, one hundred and twenty five

604
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,239
years or so.

605
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: I supposable of environmental in its claimate change.

606
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:47,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it's all everything is to do with

607
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:48,039
climate change.

608
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: Is big. Yeah, yeah, well make I would just say

609
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,119
thank you very much. That's been really interesting and good

610
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:58,719
that you're keeping going and doing well.

611
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: So we can you keep on keeping on.

612
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good positive way of looking at it.

613
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,320
Thank you, And I hope the two brothers keeps fishing

614
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,079
well and you can't plenty octopus to fish you do

615
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,000
for the grabber.

616
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: We'll do our best with that, thank you very much, Yes,

617
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,760
we will.

618
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Mick, Okay, thanks for not