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Speaker 1: And shortly ago you heard Nick Craig. He was sitting
in for Revents Cochley and Nick was playing the audio
of what the FBI had to say, and they said that,
you know, everything they know at this point is that
it acted alone. You know, they scoured places, their's bombs,
you know the incentive devices that have been found. Is
there a connection between what happened in Vegas and what
happened in New Orleans other than the truck being the
same rental company? At least that's the last I had seen.
We don't know the other fascinating thing or military radicalized
individual that that did this. So many different aspects, there's
just things we we don't know, and and and and
so many things happen in real time. So if you
if you're on the news, what you see is kind
of this thirty minute loop of No matter if it's
CNNMSNBC or Fox or whatever, they're in the thirty minute loop,
you're kind of seeing the same thing you're seeing. You know,
if the FBI does an update, they play that, and
then they'll play that until another update happens. Meanwhile, they'll
have subject matter experts on a variety of fronts that
will come in and say and give their opinion if
I was doing it, here's what they should be saying,
or here's what they shouldn't be saying, or here's what
I would do in that in that position. And and
so you saw this play out. You've got several New
Orleans officials that have said, hey, we would delay the
Sugar Bowl one more day. You have the Sugar Bowl
that's supposed to happen in New Orleans. It was supposed
to be yesterday, they put it. They knocked it off
till today. There are other people that are concerned about
the safety. You know, the governor deployed one hundred additional
agents to secure the Sugar Bowl folks there. So we
don't know. There's more that we don't know than we do,
and otherwise there's a lot of speculation. One of the
most difficult aspects of this to me is watching the
lack of trust in the FBI now and think about
that for a minut I'm not trying to overly politicize this,
but I'm saying we know that the FBI at the
highest levels did have several DEI woke like policies in place.
They did spend an extraordinary amount of time at the
highest levels with the Donald Trump stuff. They did withhold
information from the media about the Hunter Biden laptop story.
They did spend time, effort, resources in social media and
engaged in that over the past four years. So the
unfortunate reality and the FBI is a massive agency. Does
that mean everybody wasn't doing their jobs. No, it doesn't
mean that at all. It does mean, in the eyes
of the American public that the agency itself, at the
highest levels spent time doing things that undermine trust in
the department. So when the department says, oh, we've been vigilant,
We've been on top of the terrorist activities, you have
to say to yourself, well, it wasn't that long ago
that Joe Biden came out and told the nation that
the number one threat to America was white supremacist groups,
which we know in light of the Nashville shooting, we
know in light of other shootings, we know that's not
fundamentally not true. But he told us, the President of
the United States told us this. There's no evidence that
this certainly wasn't a white supremacist activity. There's no evidence
that what happened in Vegas was a white supremacist activity.
All in fact, it is isis so the threats, and meanwhile,
the border being completely poors and unsecured, has allowed we
don't know the level of threats that have come across
the border. We don't know the people that are part
of sleeper cells or trying to radicalize individuals that are
trying to create threats to the country. And several Democrats
have said, you know what, there's no evidence that migrants
have made things worse, that illegal immigration has made things worse.
But here's the thought on that, and I'm getting away
from the New Orleans thing we'll come back to. It
is that there are plenty of bad people in society
right now. In what is here legally that stretches agencies,
that stretches law enforcement departments, sheriffs, police, all up and down.
There's plenty here. So the fact that more dangerous individuals
are imported is adding to that which stretches the ability
to deal with bad people even further out, more costly,
more time consuming, less able to keep track of all
the threats because now you've added into the mix many
more potential threats. So is the the fact that an
agency was stretched? Is that why they missed this guy?
Are there how many people like that have they missed?
This didn't happen in a vacuum. There were several signs.
We know that the custody of the kids was at play.
We know that there were people close to him that
were saying, hey, there's a problem here. What we don't
know is was he radicalized in a systemic way? Was
he radicalized Diyce's former thirteen years in the US military army?
Was he radicalized with some kind of intent and other words?
Were there individuals that were radicalizing him in subtle machiavellian ways?
Were there ways that they were twisting him or did
he have mental issues and got twisted up on his own.
We don't know. There's a lot more that we don't
know than we do. The same thing with the situation
in Vegas. Though. The interesting thing about the Vegas bombing
was that that cyber truck the way it was built,
and Elon Musk was on top of that immediately saying, hey,
we're going to look into this, and through the telemetry
and all the interesting information they had, they knew about
that truck. They knew it was a bomb, they knew
it wasn't the battery. They knew very quickly that it
was not a mechanical failure with this truck. They knew
a lot of data on the truck that they were
able to retrieve quickly. Also because of the construction of
that truck. If you look at the bombing, the individual
in it blown you know, destroyed. If you're going to
destroy it should be that one. So but if you
look at where that was parked in front of the building,
there were no windows blown out. The doors of the
Trump Resort were not damaged. I mean, obviously the sprinklers
went off and the flames went straight up, so there's
roof dams there. But that had that truck just been
a fall apart vehicle. A lot more people could have
been hurt or killed that we don't know the power of.
We don't know. There's a lot about that situation. We
don't know. The one in New Orleans. You hear the
police chief. She's almost seventy very politically connected in her
former California stint and up in Chicago where she was
connected Democrats there now in New Orleans. And I'm not
trying to say this is a Democrat thing. The point
is she had political connections in that realm and there
was some you know, you wonder when you saw her
many people had a reaction like that. It's the police chief.
We know that the blockades, he drove around the blockades
onto the sidewalk. We know that also there are barricades
in the streets that either didn't work or did it doesn't.
It's a horror. People that want to inflict harm will inflict,
will find a way. So that's why the intelligence and
security is so critical. See something, say something. If you
look at there's actually a video, there's a very odd
video circulating that is that truck. And if you know
the layout of Canal Street and Bourbon Street, you kind
of know this. So there was a video of this
truck coming down the street kind of in bumper to
bumper track at traffic, and you can see it coming
down the street. I don't know if you've seen the video.
And then you can see that it makes a right
onto Bourbon Street, so it's coming up, I guess up
from the river, makes a right on Bourbon, which is
where all the partiers were, and you see it just
accelerate right into that turn. So it's moving it two
point nothing miles an hour and it makes a right
hand turn and zoom, you see it just take off.
I think both of these I read, and I could
be wrong, could be read somewhere they were ev vehicles.
We know the Tesla is, but not sure about the Ford,
but that's kind of what it said.
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Speaker 1: Christopher Rai, not to be confused with Christopher Ray, is
the gentleman who assistant I guess he's assistant director of
the FBI. He came out and spoke, we've got that
queued up, so we'll cue that. And this is the
FBI deputy assistant director about the New Orleans text. Let's
play that clip. That's about a minute thirty six. Go
ahead and play that all right.
Speaker 3: First and foremost, let me be very clear about this point.
This was an act of terrorism. It was premeditated and
an evil act. This was obviously a critical incident, and
with that, lots of information and tips come pouring in
for law enforcement, first responders and the public. We have
been aggressively running down these tips and information. As you
all know, that takes time, and we will continue to
do so until every lead has been followed through on.
This investigation is only a little more than twenty four
hours years old. Sore twenty four hours old, so I
ask you to keep in mind that as I go
through some of the specifics later. But at this point, currently,
and this is another position on another fact I want
to be clear on, we do not assess at this
point that anyone else involved in this attack is involved
in this attack except for shamsu den Jabbar the subject.
You've already been briefed on a little bit about what
the FBI is doing. So we are surging people and
assets to the area from across the region and across
the nation, special agents in multiple field ups.
Speaker 1: We can we can cut that one off down. But
that was the briefing that occurred, you know, just in
the last half hour or so about what they know. Now.
The interesting thing if you listen and I think the
words are intentional. He's reading them. They've been written. It's
for your to digest that Shimpson shamsu Den Jabbar acted alone.
But he also added in there, so we believe he
acted alone. Meanwhile, he also said agents are being deployed
to the area and across the nation. I guess they're
wanting to make sure that what he said holds up.
Now on the flip sides we know about, we don't
know the connection, if there is one, to what happened
at Trump Tower. It is odd that two trucks blew
up not far apart from a timeline standpoint. We know
that one was radicalized. We suspect the other probably was.
That almost synonymous with this this morning, and there's a
protest in New York Downtown, New York, hundreds of anti
Israel protesters gathered in Times Square yesterday waving Palestinian flags
and calling for into fodder revolution. On the same day,
a terrorist carried out deadly cartec in French quarters in
New Orleans. The protest, organized by the Palestinian Youth Movement,
the Party for Socialism and Liberation and the People's Form,
was led in a chant of there is only one
solution into fodder revolution. We're sending you back to Europe,
you white, Yeah, whatever, I can't exploitive. One female demonstrator
wearing a kefia shouted at counter protesters, go back to Europe,
go back to her now interested in Europe's been overrun
and becoming almost an extension. You know, there is a strong,
strong eradication of Western civilization taking place in Europe. So
a lot of this type of mentality is incompatible with
the free society it is. It's the wa hobbyist, it's
the extremist in this into fodder group. So as Iran
loses prestige as there's been pushback against every one of
its proxies in the region around Israel, whether it be Hamas,
whether it be whatever group it is from the Hutis
from Hesbalah, from all of those, and even the Syrian stuff.
I don't know what's going to happen, who's going to
take over Syria, but it doesn't look friendly. And Iran's
getting ready to get economically cut off. Even as John
Kerry and Joe Biden the Democrats were very friendly to
Iran as they were funding, so we were funding, we
were funding Iran or freezed up. You re freed up
a lot of their assets, so they could use that
money in those resources to attack Israel and US. We
also the fact that the Europeans are funding the Russians
through oil purchases to help fund the Ukraine while giving
money to the Ukrainians. It's a weird reality. I think
that's going to change it about I don't know. Nineteen
days were the second so eighteen days. So when you
look at that and we as we we saw after
October seventh, and we saw heading into the spring of
this year, it was a highly coordinated student activism on
the campuses that undermined these universities credibility in the eyes
of the American public. The fact that those protests went on,
so they went so far. Could you imagine almost any
other group on the right having such It would not
be tolerated. There is a tolerance for the anger on
the left. That's I don't know why, other than you don't.
I don't want to say, hey, the left hates America.
I don't want to say democrats hate America. There's a
lot a lot of them love this country. The issue
is that at the highest levels there is not a
desire to stop this. That's where we should be speaking
with one voice. The left and right should be putting
down these protests calling for violence. Intifada, you're calling for
an into fader revolution. That's what means it's okay to
kill people who disagree with you. That's not what we
should be what we should be up to, not what
we should be doing, not what we should be about.
And here we had a bomb, I mean, right on
the heels of the of this terrorist attack into ones
And by the way, a lot of people are suggesting
with the explosive device in the truck in New Orleans
that had he made it to a certain point, he
would have detonated that and the carnage would have been
much more widespread. I think he ran into kind of
a lift and amount of elevation device that was in
the way. But just unbelievably shocking. That strange. So and
I've read this and I just had someone I do
trust confirm it. Both of those individuals were stationed at
what is now known as Fort Liberty at one time.
Don't know if they were stationed together now Fort Bragg,
then I think it'll probably be Fort Bragg again before
the next four years is up. Both rented EV vehicles
from the same app that we saw both attacks within
hours of each other. So it's something at that level
coincidence has to be looked at, just I mean, other
than the fact that it's New Year's Day. I mean,
that's a time, you know, people like these kind of
specific times. Nine eleven wasn't. And I heard someone say
in the midst of all this and is some experts said, hey,
the further one of the problems with this is the
further you get away from the last terrorist attack, massive
terrorist attack, the closer you are to the next one,
and the more we become complacent. And they's phrased it
very differently, and I don't remember the gentleman's name. They said,
the further you are from the nine from nine to eleven.
And this is kind of interesting because it's a play
on words. The further you are away from nine to
eleven the closer yard of nine to ten, and what
he's really trying to say, the closer yard to the
next terrorist attack. And it's an easy way to say things.
And so while we're arguing about DEI and wokeism and
transgender in the military, the people who want to kill us,
the people that want to undo our country, the people
that want the organizations that want to destroy our nation.
They are not distracted by that. And that's where the
complacent political left that wants to pick fights over things
that are not nearly as critical distracts us. That serves
only as a distraction away from what we really need
to be focusing on, because all they're doing is they
are being complacent and creating complacency. Because while we're paying
attention to that, especially in the military, you want to
follow wokes, you want to push this stuff, go fine,
have protests, whatever. But when you're trying to indoctrinate the military,
you're trying to indoctrinate a the FBI, when you're trying
to undermine, that's dangerous. And I'm not saying that it
led to this, but it certainly didn't help. There's no
way you can argue that doing these things helped that
all of those other policies did not contribute in some way.
So that being said, we'll talk. I'm sure we'll talk
a little bit more about this. Also in the news today,
Josh Stein taking office from someone who was I guess
the attorney general for sixteen years, was in the General
Assembly for fourteen years, Roy Cooper thirty there than eight years,
thirty eight years, and most people can't name anything he
really did. Josh Stein taking over from Cooper, expected to
hold it, to have an executive order. The conventional wisdom
on the executive order that josh Stein would be and
he's going to do it from Western North caass So
that's where most people think, Hey, there's going to be
some executive order about helping the folks in western North Carolina.
If that happens, we'll bring that to you as well.
You're on WBT all.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five off boring start and all sorts of
things happening. A sugar Bowldelaide. Two terrorist attacks that looks
like crazy people protesting in New York. Biden leaving doing
some strange stuff on the way out the door. By
the way, Biden, this is the weird one. I pulled
it up so many people have reposted it. So they
posted a video. I don't know who's responsible for posting
at the Biden White House, because certainly he's not in
charge of what he's doing. I think he needs to
be told everything to do here, do this, here, do this.
Even his press conference on the bombing was rather odd.
But they posted a video from the pandemic encouraging lockdowns
and masking. It was uploaded in January of twenty one,
as soon as Biden took office. It was re uploaded
today as he should be like preparing to exit. Why
did they share the video again? Why'd they redo this?
It's odd? You know you had the terrorist attacks drone
by the way, did you notice the drones have disappeared?
Did you notice that story was like huge, and I
mean it was everything from foreign adversaries to people with
lots of drones out there in the northeast. Who could
it be UFOs planes? You people are mistaking drones for
planes or planes for drones. It's just news, news, news, news,
every every It was just like inundated with drones and
then all of a sudden gone. But ever, you know
what everyone knows now, they know the you know the
red light green light. I'm not talking about squid Games.
I'm they see a plane coming toward them or going away.
If you ever take your faxam you got a no
red light green light. Not the squid games, but they
all say Squid Games two came out, so people were
watching that as well. But that's the drone story just
kind of evaporated, just disappeared. No resolution, by the way,
no resolution. Can you imagine a big story, a national
news story, You're not gonna believe this, and then it
just disappears and there's no resolution. We never found out
whenever we just heard, well, it's probably probably just a
bunch of drones that people had. And by the way,
before Christmas, you would expect it. Maybe after Christmas, you know,
a thousand new drones are out there and people are
flying them all over the place, you would expect that,
but not not. Right after Christmas, all the drones disappear.
It's almost like a bunch of parent said, oh, I
got these really cool drones. I want to start flying
my six foot drone before I give it to my kid.
Hundreds of drones appear over the Northeast military bases everywhere.
They are just everywhere. Jacob, welcome to the show today.
How the heck are you?
Speaker 4: Hey there?
Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, those drones are just falling from the sky,
aren't they. You know, just just some fireworks shows. You know,
instead of paying ten grand for a fireworks show, you
get a little less money and get some drones and
then they fall and get kids in the face. But
that's not why.
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to I want to take
you care off it. Those drones. If you look up
some of those, especially there's one or two in the
US you can find. But the drone displays that people
are putting on with, you know, ten thousand drones in
the air doing these an made it. Those are it's
it's through the looking glass kind of stuff. It's really remarkable.
Speaker 5: But anyway, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I've seen it on TV.
I just think it's too it's in its embryo stages.
Obviously they got some things to clean up. So let's
get back to New Orleans. I'm a seventeen year veteran
of security.
Speaker 6: Six year security manager at Merrick Stadium Spectrum Center, worked
with some government to some entities, including nuclear security.
Speaker 5: So you know, barriers are a huge, huge thing. It's
the it's the first deterrence to a controlled space. Right,
So let me just say that I wouldn't want this
police chief working on my staff. And you know, if
you had even put three or four police cars in
a row, the guy couldn't have got through. There is
one police car, he went around it and he was
off to the races, as we know. So why weren't
there at least you guys you know where the Jersey
barrier is, right, Yeah, okay, they could have brought those in.
Those are portable, they're they're put them up with you.
As a matter of fact, you move them with a
piece of equipment similar to the one that he ran
into at the end of the way there, or you
could have put dump trucks or anything anything else. And
my other point is, you know, government, the wheels of
progress with the government moved slowly. This stuff should have
been done weeks ago. Whatever repairs they're doing on the
ballard system that should have been finished weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you knew that. It shows your expertise.
Those balls, this is the thing. They're replacing them ahead
of Super Bowl, the next super Bowl in the world.
So they're saying, oh, we're gonna fix them for that.
You had the Sugar Bowl coming up, you had a
high target air you knew there were some alerts out there,
and you're right, they announced that they were being replaced.
So you basically said, hey, we're not going to have
any protection on this street to be bad guys, and
you thought they could have put in There were a
number of things they could have done. So I don't
understand it, and I think more it's Monday morning quarterbacking
a little bit. But this looked bad. There's no way just.
Speaker 5: Having worked up at Charlotte Mukenberg Government Centers, you no,
I know how that works. And there's someone above the
police chief who made those decisions and didn't get that
work done on time. It's not really I would blame
the police chief for not getting a temporary barrier in there,
but I would blame someone else for not having the
responsibility to have that construction work done weeks ago leading
up to these three huge events.
Speaker 1: Great observation. Did you know the police chief hit two
pedestrians back in August while on time? She hit two?
That sounds like I'm laughing, but you know, like you said,
is that you want to charge you hit two pedestrians
while on duty. So but thank you for the call.
Various two to observation and it's yet reason number five
hundred and eighty why I love talk radio. Thank you,
thank you so much for the call. Jacob Okay, Joanne,
Welcome to the show. And how are you this beautiful
day after New Year's I guess I'm.
Speaker 7: Fine driving the car. Regarding drones is what I called about, right,
But from what your previous caller was plaining about, I
thought they had like CEM things that they could freeze
up from the ground and they just didn't do it.
Speaker 1: They're called ballards b O l A b O l
l A r d s and you can they're stainless
steel removable posts that are locked behind each crosswork. They're
supposed to be attached and they weren't. They're being repaired,
renovate I don't know, but they said they're going to
replace them all. So in the midst of replacing them,
they left that street completely vulnerable and didn't do anything else.
So he drove around it onto the sidewalk. But yes,
what you said, they hadn't done it. It was completely exposed.
Speaker 7: Now was it because of incompetence or was it part
of the plant?
Speaker 1: They claim it was part of a plan. They they
announced to the public that they were replacing them ahead
of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: I mean a conspiracy plan. I meant a bigger plan,
like let's hurt somebody. But the drones. According to an
informant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Corporation, they're putting
chemicals in that to make people more compliant choicy.
Speaker 1: Well look, I love if you've listened to me at
all here on Calendar Show or any other places that
I've sub hosted, here on this wonderful station, I love conspiracies.
I don't buy into them as much. And that one
that's a big stretch. You're you're talking about compliance. They're
putting compliance drugs in these things. But why just that area?
Why wouldn't you do it every and why wouldn't you
be more insidious, because there'd be a thousand different ways
to be more insidious about making people compliant, whether it
be water systems or you know, any in crop dusting,
you know, any when you're dealing with mosquitoes. You know,
So why in those drones, like I said, a lot
of were aircraft, A lot of them were small drones,
but there were some big ones mixed into. But we
just never heard the rest of the story.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 7: Well what you were saying was it was a test
run deceive it worked.
Speaker 1: Ah so, and that fits. See. That's the beautiful thing
about a conspiracy theory is when things fit, it drives.
And the Bill and Melinda Gates stuff, that's just that's
been ongoing for a long time, from vaccines to climate
change to you know, the global population control. They've had
a bunch, even the Epstein stuff. I mean, Gates is
you know, being on two or more conspiracies. He has
been tied into the Epstein stuff as well. Would you
a three?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call man, Yeah, thank you, chat out.
I'm sitting in for Pete Calender. Absolute pleasure and honor
to be here. And you know I looked for the
latest new Jersey New northeast drone story. There hasn't been
one in like two weeks. It was like one a
week ago, but it was nothing to do with that.
There was one that crashed down in Florida, but it
just like it wasn't sexy, wasn't time, he wasn't topic,
it wasn't fun, not newsworthy. I guess the news media
has the attention span of a gnat. Sometimes he's swatted
away and it goes on to something else. Well this
right now, though Dallas would house a friend for the
past I'd say twenty years, twenty years plus. I guess
I've known Dallas that long. It's hard to believe. He's
the state director of American Majority, has served in many
capacities at ian Raleigh, and also a fellow wolf Pac fan.
So we can equally be ashamed of the way our
team acted at the end and equally chagrined that we're
not better at all the sports than we are being
the largest university just about in the state. Dallas, welcome
to the show. How are you today, Thank Chad, Happy
New Year, Happy New Year to you. Now, one thing
I can say with certainty is that you have one
of several people, I would say, have a unique and
more knowledgeable series of observations about Josh Stein than almost
anyone in the state. You've worked around him, You've worked
around you know that that whole world in Raleigh, Josh
Stein been laying in wait to become the next governor.
They have a very successful story that I think they
held until the election to make it so he could
walk into the governor's mansion. He's now the governor. I
think he's holding a news conference here in about thirty minutes.
It'll probably be something about western North Carolina. What are
your observations on Josh Stein? What should we expect in
your opinion?
Speaker 4: Well, I think the easy thing to sort of look
at is you know that you know he is a
cutoff those Roy Cooper cloth you know, both were attorney generals,
both were state senators, both share the mega Democrat campaigns
consultant Morgan Jackson news extraordinarily talented. I agree, and and
and you know, and and of course the Stein face
is a similar political situation too. That Roy Cooper, you know,
focused our faith most of the time in and he
will face. I mean it's you know, it's hard for
me to imagine there'd be in a scenario, although not
impossible towards the end of the decade, where Democrats, by
you know, some extreme small margin take over the legislature,
but they are at such a demographic and geographic disadvantage
I think, you know, you're likely to see a Republican
legislature probably with pretty healthy margins, not always super majority.
And so you know, the question of stein will be.
You know, Roy Cooper was enormously successful politically. He never
lost an election when I guess today's third d So
yesterday was Wednesday, January first. When Roy Cooper woke up
yesterday morning, it was the first time in thirty seven
consecutive years he had not been in an elected office,
you know, So that you know, the question is, you know,
but his time as governor is fairly unmemorable, right, I mean,
he you know, he rode in with back last about
eighth v. Two, a political situation that quite frankly North
Carolina was a little bit of ahead of the argument
that would have been probably very different had that argument
taken place at another point in time, after we got
into fights over wins.
Speaker 1: Absolutely especially now I mean now it.
Speaker 4: Would be and then but that's fine. And you know,
he did defeat an incumbent governor, something that there's not
been that many opportunities to do since you didn't allow
the governor to run for reelection until the nineteen eighties.
But and Roy Cooper was enormously politically successful, like unting
against the legislature as a pride and true thing that
governors do, even when the legislature was controlled by the
same party as it was by the Democrat for most
of the twenty first century in the twentieth century, So
you know, and we'll see all the same things out
of Josh. The interesting thing will be does he want
to get a little more done than Cooper? I mean,
Cooper really finished with virtually no legislative accomplishment.
Speaker 1: I mean, yet he had one. I would say, Dallas,
I would push back a little bit. And what I
love about my relationship with you is you and I
have had amazing disagreements over the past two decades and
have been friends through it all. And I'll give you
a lot of kudos because you've had disagreements with number
of people, but you always have a degree of respect
for those who disagree with you, And you and I
have had some great ones in the years, and I
think that I'll predict that Josh Doin. I agree with
you on the Josh Stein thing that I think he's
going and tell me if I'm wrong, He's going to
probably be much more nuanced than Cooper. I don't think
he dislikes Republicans as much. I think Morgan Jackson is
very bright. I agree with you as his consultant, and
I think he's going to post a few more victories
working with the Republicans. But Cooper, the one thing I
would say he did accomplish was Medicaid expansion, where for
some reason the Republicans went along with him on that.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, actually, it's not just for some reason.
It's not for some mysterious some reasons. Why did they
go along with it? And you can disagree with them,
but you can disagree with it is you know, the Republicans,
the sate. The Republicans, I remind you elected Donald Trump
in twenty sixteen, and they elected Republicans to run both
chambers of Congress, and the Republicans mostly the foot of
the decease John McCain. But Republicans failed to repeal Obamacare
in Congress and to do something about healthcare, and when
they refused to do that, they left the States in
a terrible situation where basically the government's insurance you know
that the insurance market could collapse. And and I'm a
little more sympathetic on the expansion of Medicaid than some
of my conservative friends are, because I I don't like it,
but I can understand why they felt like they had
to do it, because you know, our employers can't get
anybody insured and they can't get anybody to go to
work otherwise.
Speaker 1: And so you left one part out though, Really what happened.
Speaker 4: When the federal government threw all this money towards Medicaid
expansion and the Republicans refused to repeal Obamacare when they
had the people in Congress.
Speaker 1: To do so, and they put waightwaight Tallas. They also
prior wait, wait, prior to the Medicaid expansion, they pushed
for managed care, which ended up being somewhat disastrous as
predicted fiscally. Yeah, I mean it just didn't it didn't work.
I mean managed care didn't.
Speaker 4: Work the Republican holdo. Second, now, the Republicans got a
whole I mean, Medicaid was blowing the budgets up on
a routine basis in Raleigh before Republicans took over. Republicans
great improved the medicaid situation. But okay, so he got
Medicaid expansion, right, I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh, yaya, I would say that's the only thing I said,
Dallas was that was it? Dallas. I just said that
was the one he got. Other than that, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Of anything, you know, and and you know, and by
the way, there's you know, expanding medicaid. Whatever you want
to say about North Carolina, there's nothing unique about it, right,
I mean forty nine, you know, forty seven other states habits,
you know. I mean, they point to his management of
the COVID issue, which you and I are going to
disagree with how he managed on it. But I mean
my point is they don't exactly write about you in
the history books because you oppose the other political party.
That's pretty much sort of par for the course. So
there are a number of things that are not that political,
you know. I mean, the governor has the ability to
reorganize state government, which needs to happen from time to time,
you know, the craft excuse me, the Republicans in the
legislature I believe we're willing to probably give Roy Cooper
a lot of stuff, give him some programs he.
Speaker 1: Liked fun well, he look, look, Cooper hated the Republicans.
That that a lot do with it. Let me ask you,
looking forward, what what do you think the legislature? I agree,
I agree. I think Cooper's hatred of Republicans was made
manifest every day. So looking at Stein, who doesn't have
the kind of animus that Cooper did, Cooper's a different
political beast than Stein, in my opinion, what do you
see as the big accomplishment that these guys could work
together on?
Speaker 4: Well, I hope that. I hope that they have the
ability to sit down. We have a new Republican state auditor.
I think he is very smart. Let's work with honoring
gist and efficiencies in government. You know, I would like
to see John Gosh, our governor, sort of work with
the Republican legislature on education to the point where you know,
we can go, all right, well, we like the voucher program,
and we believe in that you want to do this.
You know, let's figure a way to do both and
let let's work hand in glove as opposed to it
because we're not going to give up what we believe.
You're not going to give up what you believe. So
how can we work together on that? Transportation you know,
is sort of a major thing, and that gotta take
something else. Somebody's gonna have to bite off a piece
of tough steak and chew on it. And that's dealing
with our university. Enrolling is down, you know, whether they
are providing the kind of education in some places that
needs to prepare them.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll tell you what, Dallas to tell you what
can you stay through the break? I need to go
to a break here?
Speaker 4: All right.
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