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Speaker 1: And I look over and what I think is my

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deal is standing right at the foot of my bed.

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But something's telling me that it's not my deal.

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Speaker 2: Children often imagine monsters under the bed, But what happens

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when several children witnessed the same impossible thing at the

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same time. My name is Edwin and he is Mariah.

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It's true scary story.

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Speaker 1: So I'm originally from West Shorton, Utah, So I'm going

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to start with a little history of West short There

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was like a lot of conflict and a lot of violence,

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so the area was just super active. West Jordan is

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like a major suburb part of Salt Lake City, so

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it's just like right on the outside. West Shorten had

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one of the first sawmills in the area. It was

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built by an Archibald Gardener. He was like a very

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devout Mormon. His name is like on every historical marker

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that we have in West Jordan. There's even I think

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a shopping center named after the guy that founded parts

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of West Shorton. The early Mormon settlers, they came through

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the Salt Lake City Valley, so there's this river that

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kind of goes through the first Mormon settlement and they

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used to call it the western Jordan, and it was

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a reference to the River Jordan in Jordan. For them,

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it was like a biblical like a description that they've

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read in the Bible. So in early like eighteen fifty,

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primarily West Shorten was like a land of agriculture, mills,

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and mining. It's based for its economy, trying to grow

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it up from mining and agriculture. Basically, there's a lot

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of lore, a lot of rumors that kind of I've

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heard throughout the years growing up in West Shorten. Some

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of them was like about the violence that would happen.

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There was even a theory that there was Native American

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burial grounds that were excavated by all these agricultural growing

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forms and a lot of the land was disturbed. Obviously,

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in the nineteen seventies, West Shorten had like a rapid

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residential industry. The growth just happened in a snap of

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a finger. So the house where my grandparents lived it

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was built in nineteen seventy four, but they didn't purchase

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the home until the late eighties, I think, is what

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my mom said. The activity in the house didn't really

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start until a few months after I was born. We

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had a death in the family, my uncle had died

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from suicide. My grandfather he was heartbroken, obviously. He later

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admitted that he would shout out loud to see a

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son in spirit, and everyone in my family suspects that

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probably kind of opened a door. It was a little

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unsettling because of everything that was happening in the house

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after that. So, like I said, I was only like

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two or three months old when my uncle died, and

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it seemed like the activity was kind of starting from there.

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In my early childhood, I was raised with my grandparents,

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and my grandparents really really religious. They were devout Mormon.

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They were both well respected in the LDS Church. They

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both worked at the South Jordan Temple. They were just

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very devout Mormons. My siblings they lived with my mom,

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so a lot of the time during my childhood, I

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was basically the only child in the home. There were

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only like a few kids in the neighborhood that I

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played with. There was the girl that was across the

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street from our house that she would always come over

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and we would always play bikes, play whatever. There was

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these other two girls that I went to the same

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school with that lived a few houses away from me,

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and they would come over with their bikes, and then

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there was this other little girl. But the other little

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girl was kind of a weird situation. This is where

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I kind of started to realize something was off. I

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would always see her in my backyard. She would never

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really say anything to me. I would try to kind

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of interact with her, but she wouldn't even look at me.

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I don't know how to explain it. It was like

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I wasn't even there. I had a little swing set

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in my backyard and I was swinging and I saw

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her in my backyard and I was like, oh, there's

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that little girl again. What stood out to me She

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would always come in my backyard, and she always had

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the same clothes on. It was like a little white

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dress with like plaid design from like a like a flannel.

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and then it had like a little collar on the

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little collar, I remember, it had like some kind of

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yellow design to it. I don't know if it was

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little flower designs or if it was just like little

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squiggly yellow designs. I don't remember. But I had like

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these little white buttons that would go down the dress,

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and she had these like small platform. I think they

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were white, or they were like a cream beige color,

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I can't remember. But she was always wearing the same

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thing every time I would see her. And what made

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it even weirder is I would hear her laugh, but

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the laugh kind of sounded like it was from a

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distance because I wouldn't really see her open her mouth

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or laugh. I wouldn't see her laughing. I would just

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hear it. I don't know how to explain that. It

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was just I don't know, it's just kind of weird.

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The times that I would try to interact with her,

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she would kind of run away. She was always running

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around in my in the backyard, and there was this

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one spot in particular she would always run. So my

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grandpa used to garden and he had like a big

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mountain of soil and dirt piled up in the corner

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of the backyard, and this little girl she would jump

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on top of the pile of dirt and she would

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jump off, and then she would run back to the

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top of it and jump up. And it was always

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that she would always do that. I just thought that

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was just weird and odd, like she would never interact

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with me. I just thought she was just weird. Well,

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one day I got kind of annoyed because I was

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always seeing her whenever I was back there. I was

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always playing outside, so whenever I was out there, she

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was there, and I stopped interacting with her. I just

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kind of got annoyed. And I'm a little girl myself,

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so I'm not understanding what's happening. I was just like,

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you know what, I'm gonna just leave. I'm gonna just

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go inside. Maybe she'll go away. So I start walking

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towards the staircase of my backyard. There was this porch

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and I was heading up to the stairs. And so

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when I started walking towards the stairs, I could still

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see her. But I literally spun my head for a

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split second and I started climbing the stairs and I

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look over and she's not there anymore. And it was

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like in a split second, and that's I think that's

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when I started to realize something is off, that's not normal,

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Like how can she pass me? From the corner of

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where she would jump off of that pile of dirt

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was super far away from Like it was just such

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a big distance, Like how would I not see her

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walking past me? She just wasn't there. So my grandfather,

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he was a gardener. He had everything you can name of.

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Cucumber patches, he had tomato patches, he had a peach tree,

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we had a cherry tree. We had everything anything you

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can grow, even had corn. He grew corn. He grew

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anything and everything.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I would go outside and help him a lot. You

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would go outside with Grandpa and help them garden. And

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there were a few times where we would dig the

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little holes, you know, to put the plants inside. One

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time I found in what I know now is an arrowhead.

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I showed it to my grandpa. I was like, oh, look,

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you know, look what I found. He goes, oh, yeah,

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you know, I found a few of those two and

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he ended up showing me three or four other arrowheads

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inside of this little box that he had. Later on,

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whenever I would help him, I would always find a

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few more. So we think we had like a total

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of five or six arrowheads in a box inside the

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house that we dug up from gardening. There was like

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this one thing that we found. I can't remember if

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it was like a piece of like a clay pow

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or if it was we honestly, I don't know. It

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just looked like a piece of something because I had

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like little engravings on it and it was like kind

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of had like squiggily lines to it. I don't know,

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but we kept that too. We kept that little piece

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of rock or whatever it was too. Yeah, we would

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find a whole bunch of stuff when we were gardening.

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We'd find a lot of arrowheads, for sure. My mom

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when she had me, she was pretty young. I think

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she had just turned eighteen when she gave birth to me.

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There were times where she would just feel things and

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hear things. Well, one day, my grandpa was home by himself.

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I think my mom and my grandma were somewhere. I

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can't remember, but I was really little. I was calling

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a few months old. All of a sudden, he hears

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something crashing inside of where my room was, or my room.

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So my mom had like these decorations, these like pictures

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above my crip. He walks in and they were all

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on the floor. Immediately he closes the door and he

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calls them and he was like, hey, I heard like

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a big crashing noise, like a big banging noise in

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your guy's room. And all the pictures are down and

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they're all on the floor, and my Grandpa said that

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he kept hearing crashing noises inside of the house. He

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kind of was just freaked out. He didn't he didn't

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say anything after that. My second sibling, she was probably

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only a few months old and I was a toddler.

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My grandparents were out of town. She decided to lay

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down in my grandparents' bedroom and she had me and

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my little sister in the bed with her, and she's

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just laying there and then all of a sudden, she

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hears like rowling. Something was like a dog like growling,

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and it sounded like it was running throughout the yard

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and like around the house. Basically, because she would hear

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the growling go underneath the window, and then she would

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hear it like in a distance, like it was running

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away from the window, and then Nada would come back around,

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and then she would hear it again, and so it

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freaked her out. And my Deal came home probably from

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work or something really late that night, and my mom

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gets up and she tells my Deal, hey, I think

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DJ got loose. DJ was a dog, a black lab

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that my grandfather had outside. He always had him in

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a kennel outside, And she tells my Deal, hey, you

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know I think DJ got loose. He's running around outside

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and he's running around the house, and so my deal

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was like, okay, let me go check. And my mom

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was scared. She was fuh. She didn't want to go out.

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She was scared. It's like two three o'clock in the morning.

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She was not trying to go out there. So my

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deal was like, Okay, I'm gonna go check. He goes

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out there and he sees the dog is just sleeping

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in his kennel outside. He looks around, he doesn't see

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any other dogs, and so he comes back up, you know,

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the porch inside the house, and he tells my mom

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he's in his kennel. He's fine, he's just sitting there.

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And my mom was like, oh okay. And then my

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THEO was like, I think I know you're talking because

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I heard it too, but it wasn't DJ. It sounded

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like another dog, but I don't know where it's coming from.

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And they both were kind of just like okay, So,

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you know, they just went back to bed. My grandmother,

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like I said, she was a very devout Mormon. She

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was really involved with the church and she would always

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have you know, the little little ladies from church they

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would come over and visit with my grandma a lot. Well,

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one day, a dear friend of our family, she came

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to visit my grandmother. One day, my mom wasn't home.

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My grandmother's friend goes, hey, I saw you, guys, I said, godman,

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Elena wasn't home. My grandmother was like, she isn't she

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isn't home, and she goes, well, I just seen her

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come out of the room and she went into the bathroom.

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And my grandmother was like, no, she's not here. She's like, Lilian,

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I'm telling you, I just saw her coming out of

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the room and going into the bathroom. And my grandma

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was like, she's not home. And she runs into the

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bedroom and yeah, sure enough, my mom's bedroom the bathroom.

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There's nobody. My mom's not there. But she was sure

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that she saw my mom coming out of the room

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and into the bathroom. Everyone in the house we all

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say the same story. There was these handprints that would

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kind of be on the ceiling. I don't know how

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to explain this situation. It almost looks like someone is

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crawling on the ceiling. And it was weird because they

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were like little hands. They were like baby hands. Is

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if some little kid touch a whole bunch of charcoal

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or something, and when insteaded crawling on the ceiling. That's

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exactly what it looks like. They were always there. They

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were always on the ceiling. And I think my grandpa

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had like a twelve foot ladder. I don't think he

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could even reach it. I don't know. So one day

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I was in the living room with my siblings, we

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were watching a movie. I don't know. I just happened

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to kind of look by the side of like the

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living room, like in the corner, and it wasn't even

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like a shadow. It was like a blurb, like a

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white blurb, like a white cloud, and it looked like

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a head and like shoulders. It just looked like three

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bubbles like it looked like it could have been ahead

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and like two sets of shoulders, and it would look

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like it was kind of sticking out of the wall.

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And then it like the wall kind of sucked it

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back in right, And I'm thinking, Okay, that was weird.

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And then see a lot of the times when when

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I would experience things, there was this like high pitch

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beeping noise that would happen, Like back in the day

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when you turn on the TV. You would hear like

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the energy turn on. Well that's what it sounds like,

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the high frequency, and I would hear it, and so

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I started to hear it, and I hear it kind

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of behind me, and so I look behind me, but

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there's nothing there. And I noticed that the second oldest

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she's like looking up above us, and like three new

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sets of handprints like started showing up. It was like

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some little kid, like a baby, put his hands and

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some charcoal and just started pressing up above us on

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the ceiling. I could hear that high pitch frequency in

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my ear. A few moments later, my grandpa comes in.

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He starts yelling at me because for some reason, I

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don't know how, but he thinks that I was able

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to grab my sister and put her on my shoulders

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to put her hamprins up there. How you know, I'm little,

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We're all little, and like you can't even touch the ceiling, Like,

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what are you talking about. He would always point the

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finger at so, you know, kind of not necessarily a denial,

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but he would always point the finger at someone else

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because there had to be a reason why this thing

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is flying off the shelf. He was a character for sure,

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he was funny. One day, somebody was like, I think

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it was my uncle. He was saying something about they

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were turning on the faucet to get water, and then

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all of a sudden, like af face and two sets

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of handprints started like showing up by where the sink was.

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The wall, the back wall of where the sink was.

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It looked like someone pressed their hands up against with

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their face. He said that it looked like someone put

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their face in some charcoal, and you could see like

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the forehead, the nose, the chin, like the bottom part

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of the lips, and they even tried to like scrape

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it off and it wasn't coming off. And so then

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my uncle goes and tells my grandma like, hey, who

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got the wall dirty? And she was like, what are

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you talking about? And so they go and check in

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the kitchen and it's not there. It's gone. There's no handprints,

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there's no face print nothing. My uncle was like, it

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was there. I saw. Came into the kitchen to get

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some water. I turned on the floss and I noticed

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it and I try to wash it whenn't come off.

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My grandma just thought that he was just crazy, like

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oh whatever. My grandparents were always dismissive at times, whenever

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somebody would be like, hey I saw something, Oh you're crazy.

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You just go back to whatever you're doing, just whatever.

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My cousin Her bedroom was downstairs in the basement, and

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the laundry room in the basement would always freak me out.

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I always hated going down there. So my cousin's room

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was right across from where the laundry room in the

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basement was. One night, she was just laying down and

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she had just covered herself and like, you know, she's

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getting ready to go to bed, close her eyes, she's sleeping.

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All of a sudden, she felt like someone was sitting

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on her bed. She was laying there and she was

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thinking of herself, like who's in my room? And so

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she opens her eyes and she saw this like really

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thick shadow. She said that you can't even see through it,

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and it was like leaning towards her. Immediately, she screams

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and starts panicking, pulls her covers over her head. She's

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covered head to toe, and immediately she just starts praying.

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She said that she even fell asleep praying. When my

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cousin moved out, my uncle he moved in into that

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same room. He used to have, like you know, those

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old VCRs, they had like that little red light that

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would kind of come through, and he had a stereo.

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And this is like in the nineties. This is the

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early nineties, so you have the stereos and the DCRs

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and everything. You know, they all have little red lights

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on them. So his VCR and a stereo were kind

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of on top of each other. He said that it

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looked like something kept moving in front of it. He

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was like, what the heck? And so then he turns

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on his light, his little lamp, and the shadow is

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literally leaning towards him at the edge of his bed.

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This would happen often, Like he would come home from

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work and he would always see the shadow either at

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the edge of the stairs right before he gets to

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his room or in his room. It was always those two.

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It was my cousin and my uncle. They would always

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say the same thing. Me and my grandparents. We had

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just came home from somewhere. My bedroom door was open,

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so I ran up the stairs to go to my room.

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Right where I can see my bedroom door. There was

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like a figure standing in my doorway and he's wearing

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like a very long black trench coat, and he had

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like a really tall black hat, like something from like

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the eighteen hundreds or like the early nineteenth century. I

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don't know. I kind of ran back to my room

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or to the living room. My grandparents are still outside.

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I think they're like unloading the car. I'm the only

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one in the house right now, and so I slowly

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go back into my room and I kind of peek over,

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you know, to see inside of my room, and it's

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not there anymore. Me and my siblings are all two

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years apart. I was born May nineteen ninety two. My

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sister was born January of nineteen ninety four. My third sister,

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she was born May of nineteen ninety six, and then

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our last sibling was born January of nineteen ninety eight.

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When we look up at our astrology charts, if you

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even like the sun, the rising, and the moon signs

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and whatnot, all four of us have the three same signs,

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every single one of us. So the only two that

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are capricornan's. There are also the same rising and the

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same moon signs as us that are Tauruses. It's super weird.

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It's like a theory that we have in the family

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that we probably come from some kind of flea andage

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of something. Given our ancestry. My family originated in Central America.

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Our heritage comes from you know, a lot of the

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indigenous people that lived in Central America. They were the Maya.

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My grandpa would even say stuff like, I think the

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universe was trying to let the family know or something

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that our ancestors are still with us, because you guys

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were all born in a very particular way. We all

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have some kind of ability to like, I can sense

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certain things. I've always kind of known this since I

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was a kid, that I could see and feel certain

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things that a lot of other kids couldn't. The middle child,

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she has abilities, and I feel like me and her

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are super connected because we both have the same sun,

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the same moon, and rising signs. We are basically the

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same person. My grandmother, she was making some kind of food,

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I think for some kind of event, probably for church,

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I don't know, and she was yelling for me to

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go downstairs to get her a few cans of beans.

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And I'm scared to go downstairs. And I'm old enough

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that if I were to tell my grandparents say I'm

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scared to go downstairs, go get to yourself, I'll get

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yelled at. So I didn't even bother to tell my grandma,

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like I don't want to go downstairs, you know. So well,

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I like slowly but surely kind of creeped my way

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down the stairs, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna sprint

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to the laundry room, get the cans of food, shove

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them in my shirt, and run back upstairs. Right. So

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I did just that. I sprint down to the laundry room.

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And in the laundry room, my grandmother had extra food storage.

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She always had like canned food down there. And so

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I run up to one of the shelves where I

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knew the cans of beans were. So I'm like trying

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to shovel these cans down my shirt. And I turn

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around and I have this like you know, those cheap

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little balls that would you would get from the walmart.

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And it was like pink and blue and white and

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like you know those plastic balls, and I had it

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sitting on my washirt. I look over and this ball

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is like going side to side, but it's not going

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side to side slowly. It's like going really fast. It's

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like I'm standing there staring at it, and I'm so

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like scared. My entire body is shaking and like I

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could feel my blood pressure just dropping, and I'm scared.

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And I'm watching this ball go like really fast on

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top of the washer, and I immediately I'm like, nope,

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it's blocking my exit. But it's not my only exit.

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There's another door that leads outside and it's behind me.

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So I turn around. I sprinted out. I open that

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door so fast, and see that door is kind of

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hard to open. You have to pull it a few times,

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really hard to get it open, you know, because it's

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like one of those old doors, like basement doors that

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leads outside. I opened that door so fast with no problem.

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Somehow I even left that door open. I just ran outside.

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So I run outside of the house and I have

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to I run all the way around into the front door.

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That's how I ended up going back into the house.

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And I'm like, here's the cats, and I'm like sweating.

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I just came from outside running. My grandma goes, why

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did you go out that way? And I didn't want

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to tell her because I know her reaction already. I

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already know it was just gonna be like, ah, you're crazy,

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So I was just like, oh, you know, I just

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wanted to have fun. I don't know. I didn't know

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what to tell her. I was like, Nope, something was

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up with that basement. My uncle, he would always bring

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my cousins over every now and again. My cousin she

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would get up, you know, during in the middle of

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the night to go to the used bathroom. So we

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had like a storage room that was right next to

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the bathroom downstairs, and she could hear like things rattling

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and someone walking in there. She just thought that it

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was my deal or somebody that was in that room.

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And so then she started walking back to my uncle's

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room to go back to bed, and she said that

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she could hear chains inside of the laundry room, like

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shackles or something like somebody was dragging a chain around,

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or like somebody was playing with a chain or something.

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Just the noise of it. She could hear it in

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that laundry room. Sometimes that basement was not it. It

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was I hated that basement as a kid. Something was

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up with my bedroom too. My cousin before she actually

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moved downstairs, she used to sleep in my bedroom and

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she hated that bedroom. She did not like sleeping there.

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There was even a time in my childhood where I

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would always sleep with my grandparents. I would always sleep

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in their room because I hated my bedroom too. I

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hated that room. I'm sleeping one night and I was

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like having this crazy, scary dream. It was super intense

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and very vivid. I woke up from it and I

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kind of like take the blanket off me, and I'm

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like sweating, and I'm like looking around my room, like

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what the heck is going on? And I look over

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and what I think is my deal is standing right

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at the foot of my bed. But something's telling me

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that it's not my deal. It like has his like

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clothes on. But I used to have a nightlight in

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my room so you could see when people like people's

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faces when they go in my room. I can't see

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his face, but it looks just like him, but it's

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not him. I kept going, deal, Deal, nothing. He's just

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standing there, just frozen, like just standing at the foot

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of my bed. All of a sudden, like this fear

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just just like I like survival instinct, like I need

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to fight whatever this thing is because it's going to

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kill me. Like I felt like that, like it's it's

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going to hurt me. Something is going to hurt me.

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I can't even sit up anymore. It's like something or

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someone is trying to sit in my chest, and like

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I can't even speak anymore. I'm trying to yell, but

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I can't, and it just feels like I can't realy,

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Like I can feel either someone is trying to sit

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right on my chest or is pushing hard, like they're

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00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,720
trying to choke me out or something. Somehow I was

479
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,200
able to break free from it. It was almost like

480
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,480
halfway paralysis, like I was about to go into paralysis

481
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,920
or something, because I could still move, but after a

482
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,599
certain point I couldn't anymore. And then I was able

483
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:18,920
to yell. I was able to say by bad. I

484
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,240
yelled it so loud, and he comes barging in. It

485
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:26,799
turns on the light and nothing, there's no one in

486
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,880
my room. I was crying hysterically, and I told him

487
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,039
THEO was in my room. THEO is in my room.

488
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,039
I don't know what he was doing. He was in

489
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:38,839
my room. Oh my god, Like I'm just breaking out

490
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,480
in total fear. And so my grandpa he's kind of

491
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,480
pissed off. He's like, why were you in my granddaughter's room?

492
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,599
But he runs downstairs and my THEO isn't even there.

493
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:56,599
He's not even home. He checked the clock. It was

494
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,839
only like eleven o'clock at night, and he knew that

495
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
my THEO didn't get off four until really late. It

496
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,400
was like, I think two or three is when my

497
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,720
idea would get home. He wasn't even home. His room

498
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:13,039
was empty, he wasn't there. When my grandpa came back upstairs,

499
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:16,119
he just told me he just go back to bed,

500
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,359
and he picked me up and he put me in

501
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,119
bed with my grandma. He closed my bedroom door and

502
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,759
we all went to sleep, and you know, my in

503
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:33,640
my grandparents room. The next morning, my grandpa I could

504
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,839
hear him overhear him talking with my grandma and he

505
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,039
was like, yeah, no, your brother wasn't even home. He

506
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,359
was gone. He doesn't get home until really late. And

507
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,519
my grandma was like, oh, that's right, there's no way

508
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:51,160
he was here. There's absolutely no way he wasn't. It

509
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,559
was at work. It wasn't him. A few times my

510
00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:02,640
grandparents would bless the house and it was like nothing.

511
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:08,800
It didn't take because more stuff was happening, and they've

512
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,760
invited people to perform exorcisms on the house and to

513
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,719
bless the house and stuff, and you know, it would

514
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,320
just keep happening. The freaky stuff would just keep happening.

515
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,840
There was one time I remember that me and my

516
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,360
grandma were gone. We were out my grandpa. Again, he

517
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000
hears like some crashy. It would always be my room,

518
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,119
that room. I did not like that room. And again

519
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,599
you heard something crash in my room. And he goes

520
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:50,599
to open the door from my bedroom and this like

521
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,159
fast shadow type of thing that kind of ran out

522
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,719
of my room. Said it ran past him like he

523
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,360
thought it was a cat. He calls you, my grandma

524
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:05,239
because we were out, and she puts him on speaker.

525
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:14,800
He goes, hola whatever fourque sang a casa. He thought

526
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,280
that I brought some like cat from outside and brought

527
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,239
it in the house. Mind you, I'm deathly allergic to cats.

528
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,000
I can't even touch a cat. I'm like really allergic

529
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,920
to cats. And so he's straight up thought that there

530
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,760
was I had a cat in my room and that

531
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,840
I had hid it in my room and it ran out.

532
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:38,360
Because he was yelling at me. He was yelling me

533
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,599
at me through the phone, like why did you bring

534
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:44,440
this nasty cat inside the house? And I'm like, I

535
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,679
didn't bring any cats inside the house. What are you

536
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,320
talking about. He was like, Oh, I just opened your

537
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,679
door and something like a small little figure, like a

538
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,960
black shadow like ran past him really really fast, and

539
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,400
that's what he thought. He thought it was like a

540
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,320
cat or something. We ended up moving out of that

541
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,440
house during my fifth grade year, so I was probably

542
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,719
like ten or eleven years old, and it was that

543
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,440
last year that we lived in the house. So I

544
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000
did a lot of digging on the house and I

545
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:24,000
looked at the history, the cell history of the house.

546
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,440
Someone had bought it. It was vacant, so when we

547
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,480
moved out, it was two thousand and five, I want

548
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,079
to say, and someone bought it in two thousand and seven.

549
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:38,280
That same year it got put back on the market.

550
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:40,760
Whoever lived in the house only lived in there for

551
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,280
nine months and put it back on the market and

552
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,920
it sold again. In two thousand and eight, same thing happened.

553
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,599
Another family went in there, lived there for about a year,

554
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,360
and the very next year it was put back on

555
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,280
the market in two thousand and nine, and it was

556
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,679
sitting vacant for I want to say like six or

557
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,159
so years. It was like a real ature or something.

558
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,039
Bought it in twenty twelve and rented it out, put

559
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:15,679
back on the market in twenty seventeen. It's off the market.

560
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,719
It's on the market. It's off the market. So the

561
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,079
people that live in it currently bought the house in

562
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:27,679
twenty twenty three, and a year or so later it

563
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,280
was put on the market and it got taken off

564
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,800
the market. In twenty twenty four it got taken down,

565
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,400
and just last year it got put back on the

566
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:47,000
market again. So there's definitely something dark malevolent for sure,

567
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,880
because you know, we would hear constantly. We would hear

568
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:56,119
growling noises, things moving in the dishes, you know, dishes

569
00:37:56,199 --> 00:38:00,280
rattling all the time. You would hear walking, some bloody

570
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,000
walking when nobody's home or everyone's asleep, nobody should be

571
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:10,000
up and walking. Sometimes you would hear the faucet turning

572
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,079
on and off in the bathroom. The bathroom was right

573
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:16,320
next to my room, and I would hear that like energy,

574
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,519
like that high pitched frequency. I would always hear it.

575
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:23,360
Whenever something paranormal would start happening, or right before it

576
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,199
started happening, I would hear such energy like just it

577
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,440
was just super odd. I don't know how to explain it.

578
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,320
And now now that I'm older and I hear it,

579
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,039
I get a little like like my guard is up, like, oh,

580
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,599
you know, there's something. There's something walking over there, Like

581
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,039
I could hear it. Ever since I was a little girl,

582
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:48,880
I've been able to hear it and see it. There's

583
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,079
something going on in that house. Like I said, So,

584
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:57,159
my uncle died and my grandpa he was super heartbroken

585
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:01,280
about it, and he either begged the devil or God

586
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,400
to let him see the spirit of his son. Do

587
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:09,039
you know why I say this. Right before my grandfather died,

588
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,320
he told the missionaries, Yeah, I want you to tell

589
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,000
either God or the devil to let me rest. We

590
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:23,360
think that he antagonized the spirits in that general area,

591
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,719
or he opened a door. My cousin says that he

592
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,519
straight up thinks that my grandfather opened a portal to

593
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:35,639
like Hell or something there because the experiences that we

594
00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:40,239
would have or literally from nightmares to this day, we

595
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,440
still don't know. My cousin she wants to buy the

596
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,800
house so that she can get it properly cleansed and

597
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,760
then put it on the market. That way, it is

598
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,360
a childhood home for me. That's where I grew up.

599
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,679
That's the only home I knew.

600
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Speaker 2: Maria, thank you so much for sharing your experiences with

601
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,360
the rest of us here at the True Scary Story

602
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,679
community is really interesting. Plus, there was one point I

603
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,280
mean obviously several, but there was one point that really

604
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:24,239
stuck with me, and it was when the grandfather like demanded,

605
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,599
like out loud, asking for the Sun's spirit to appear,

606
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,760
and for all of us here listening, I'm very curious

607
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,400
to know what you think about this. Can asking for

608
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:39,519
a spirit to show up make it show up? Or

609
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:43,079
can it somehow subconsciously affect us enough that we start

610
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:48,320
seeing this spirit around? What do you think? And aside

611
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,960
from that, there was this really creepy point here, which

612
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:55,239
is how when multiple members of a family each talk

613
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,599
about their own experiences and they define like they talk

614
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:01,920
about the same unex playing the event, like the transparent

615
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,400
figure the ceiling, you know, the handprints in the ceiling.

616
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,559
What does that mean? Is that sufficient proof that there's

617
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,840
something else out there? Or is it You know, when

618
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,000
people believe one thing they say to another person, they

619
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:17,800
kind of believe it or they want to believe it,

620
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,239
so they kind of encourage each other. There's a word

621
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,599
for it. I think it's called is it mass hysteria?

622
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,880
But that's when there's a lot of people but or

623
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,719
something similar, right, if you remember the term, Please let

624
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,519
me know what that is. But is it something like that?

625
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:35,440
End of final point here that I have is about

626
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,559
the nursery incident. Do you think, oh, actually, have you

627
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:44,480
ever had an experience when you lose somebody and you

628
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:48,400
have sudden, unexplained feelings or I don't know, there's something

629
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,880
a coincidence, something that happens after the death of a

630
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,000
loved one. And I'm saying coincidence is like I don't know,

631
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,480
a song popping up out of nowhere that you know

632
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:00,760
they used to listen to to image is a certain

633
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,719
character that they used to like, objects that you know

634
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,480
they really liked, kind of making themselves appear, you know,

635
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:12,599
in unusual places, things like that. Obviously not limited to those.

636
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,480
But has anything like that happened, something that you say, yeah,

637
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,360
this can't be a coincidence. Please let me know in

638
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,880
the comments. You can also email me let me know,

639
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:23,159
let me know if you have ever experienced this. There's

640
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:25,679
another thing here, In the very beginning of this episode,

641
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Maria mentions Utah, right, the whole area of Utah has

642
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:37,840
a very very dark history, kind of unusual and slightly

643
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,320
unknown for those of us who did not grow up

644
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,599
in those areas. I actually made a full episode on

645
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,159
horror Story, the podcast where I talk about true paranormal mysteries.

646
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,199
I made it an episode on Utah, like on this

647
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,559
specific topic actually some of the ones that I found

648
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:59,119
from the pioneers, the Mormon Pioneers basically, and the episode's

649
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:03,679
called go so Haunted Utah, Ghosts of the Promised Land.

650
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,800
So go check it out over on horror Story. It's

651
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,199
the one with the yellow letters. I make that podcast also,

652
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,559
so go check it out, find it, let me know

653
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,880
what you think. Obviously, in the very beginning, Maria Gay

654
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,440
was this really interesting behind the scenes to Utah and

655
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:21,000
a history, a short little history lesson which really triggers

656
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:23,880
that idea and that research, which I'm pretty sure you're

657
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,079
going to find it very interesting me looking into the

658
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,800
dark history of Utah. And also you might be thinking

659
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,599
of some of the things in your state or your

660
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:35,760
country that might not be known internationally or you know,

661
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,639
is lesser known. Please send it over because I'm interested

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00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,679
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questions before you share your story, just in case you know. Anyway,

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That's all I got for you this week. Thank you

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very much for listening. Keep it scary everyone, see ya soon.