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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Nightmare USA Podcast. Using Stephen Thrower's tome

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<v Speaker 1>as our roadmap, join us, this week explored the underbelly

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<v Speaker 1>of America, one regional horror film at a time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Adam and I'm Sam, and welcome to episode zero. Who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take an opportunity to have an introductory episode

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the listeners, well, help it's listeners, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>it's more than one. A little bit about ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about our personal history with Nightmare USA or planning

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<v Speaker 1>for making our way through the films covered in this

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<v Speaker 1>massive book. And spoiler alert, it's going to take a while.

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<v Speaker 1>If you include all the films in index, there's over

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred films to discuss. And you've watched all those

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<v Speaker 1>films already, right Sam, there are still holes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a letterbox list that I go against, and

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<v Speaker 2>every time I look back, I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the joy of Nightmare USA is like there's movies

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<v Speaker 2>in there, like what, how have I not seen this?

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<v Speaker 2>And whether it's either that or it's like I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>this and they didn't give it the proper attention that

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<v Speaker 2>it deserves. That's why I love the book so much

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<v Speaker 2>like I. It's a book that I never put back

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<v Speaker 2>on the shelf, some constantly pulling it back off. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's very large, so you can get a work out

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<v Speaker 2>with it. There's a lot of things you can do

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<v Speaker 2>with it. To no offense that Steven Thrower. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>used it for to keep this carpet down when I

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<v Speaker 2>first got this new carpet. It's very heavy, and then

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<v Speaker 2>my dog tried to eat it. And like police, this

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<v Speaker 2>book is very expensive and hard to get, like let's let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Chill, Well, when did you first get that book?

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<v Speaker 2>I had wanted it for a long time. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was always like when I'd look online for it, it

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<v Speaker 2>always seemed like so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, Bill, who I do driving a saw home

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<v Speaker 3>with uh? And from Groovy Doom.

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<v Speaker 2>He bought it for me for Christmas, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>he brought it to the Christmas party and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>interact with anybody because I kept looking through it and

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<v Speaker 2>walking around and showing it to people, like, look, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole chapter about, uh the Black Room in it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a movie like he and I are obsessed about.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone that loves these kind of movies, whether you're just

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<v Speaker 2>starting to discover a regional horror or like secotronic cinema,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're really into it, whatever level you're at, there

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<v Speaker 2>something in this book for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I think so. I mean I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>until I got in twenty twenty, and that's about whenever,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever the pandemic hit is whenever. I really got into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these, and a lot of it was

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to like Alamo draft House going online and bringing

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<v Speaker 1>the whole content there. And so I saw Centipede Horror,

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<v Speaker 1>which was I mean, that's not in this book, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that was one of the first CAT

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<v Speaker 1>three movie.

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<v Speaker 3>That I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>And they showed Spookies, which I had never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, but I think Godminster of Indian Flats

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<v Speaker 1>was one that they showed, which is in this book,

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<v Speaker 1>and like what is you know, how did I get here?

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<v Speaker 1>And where do those are?

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<v Speaker 3>Three movies?

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<v Speaker 2>So dear to my heart, I remember, like I always

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<v Speaker 2>loved Spookies on some level because it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the USA Afternoon movie. That's what I always consider it

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<v Speaker 2>a VHS era movie. And uh, there's a group in

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh that does like bad movie Bengo. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the name of it because I don't think Spookies is

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<v Speaker 2>a bad movie, but they do a thing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>in between they asked trivia, and they had the Rich

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<v Speaker 2>Corbin poster that's on the cover that they printed. They

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<v Speaker 2>were giving it away, and of course when they started

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<v Speaker 2>the trivia, I answered like the first like three questions

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, well, we'll just give you the poster.

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't answer any questions, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, some of your questions are wrong because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with Spooky's, you know, and Centipede Horror, which

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<v Speaker 2>is I think when people are like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you see those lists online and they're like the most

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<v Speaker 2>disturbing movies. No one ever has Centipede Horror. That movie

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<v Speaker 2>really sometimes, like if I think about it, it just really

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<v Speaker 2>grosses me out. Like it's a movie that I know

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<v Speaker 2>that the special effects were just fill an actress's mouth

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<v Speaker 2>with centipedece and have her throw them up, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was really dedicated to that role to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's that Inclamity of Snakes are the

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<v Speaker 2>two Category three ones that I think of where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like these are beyond anything you're ready for.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Cinnepede Horror looking Back Sandpeede Horry, here's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird one for me to start with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I start right, You're like, oh this is I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get really into these movies, and let's start with

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<v Speaker 2>Centipede Horror.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was weirder is that. I'll watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I want more of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I did two though, so I think that's these movies are.

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<v Speaker 2>I always used to call them torture tests. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the movies in the book, Blood Sucking Freaks, we

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<v Speaker 2>had it at our video store growing up and we've

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<v Speaker 2>rented it. They probably thought we were like budding serial killers, right.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother and I rented Bloodsucking Freaks almost daily because

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<v Speaker 2>when new kids would hang out with us with our

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<v Speaker 2>friend group, they had to make it through that movie

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<v Speaker 2>without getting upset. And there's a lot in that movie

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<v Speaker 2>to really upset people. And now as an adult watching it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like boor at eleven, Probably I shouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 2>watching this movie like it's it's rough. And also I

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<v Speaker 2>had not seen Hershel Gordon Lewis before it, so I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is as an adult, I'm like, this is just

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<v Speaker 2>a Hershel Gordon Lewis or Bob Made New York. But

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, this is like the most transgressive, edge

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<v Speaker 2>lord stuff I'd ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I didn't say it until the last five

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<v Speaker 1>or six years, but I do remember our town, which

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<v Speaker 1>is this little town in Louisiana, and they had a

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<v Speaker 1>midnight showing a blood Sucking Freaks in the eighties, which

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy to think about now, but and the radio

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<v Speaker 1>station had a contest, you know, seventh caller gets free tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>and I called I won, and they were like.

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably about ten. I was like eighteen. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, kid, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>I gave it.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave my brother's name, and I tell my brother

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, if you want to go see this

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<v Speaker 1>Blood Sucking Freaks movie, you know, pick up the tickets

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<v Speaker 1>at the radio station. I think he did, and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really talk much about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have never been able to stop talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Ralphus and all the characters in it. And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>we had one kid that was definitely too young to

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<v Speaker 2>see it. He was probably like a year or too

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<v Speaker 2>younger than nuts. I remember he was like laying on

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<v Speaker 2>crying and he's like, why did you make me watch

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<v Speaker 2>this movie? This movie is so wrong, Like I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to get in trouble for this movie. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't think you're gonna get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, yeah, it's upsetting and it's transgressive, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, I always feel like you got to

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<v Speaker 2>go through those movies. It's not like we made them

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<v Speaker 2>watch shallow or something, you know what I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I guess that's today for the kids who

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<v Speaker 2>would be a serbian movie, they're like, that's that's our

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<v Speaker 2>torture test. But that and Toxic avengerw were the first

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<v Speaker 2>two like splattery kind of things that were at my store.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what's always locked.

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<v Speaker 2>In my head when I think about movies today. Primetime

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<v Speaker 2>Video in my hometown had that horror section with all

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<v Speaker 2>the wizard video cases, and like whenever I'm said, I

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<v Speaker 2>always try to conjure that up in my head of

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<v Speaker 2>like walking through there and seeing what was there like

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they would hand right things on them

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<v Speaker 2>like must be eighteen to rent faces and death, like what,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that bad, you know I say that I

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<v Speaker 2>would be the worst parent. This is why I just

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<v Speaker 2>have a dog, because I'd be like, you kids can

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<v Speaker 2>watch you can watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I didn't have any it was weird. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell stories. My daughter is like you had, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>lines that your parents drew are so we to me

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<v Speaker 1>because it didn't make any sense. Like, sure, kid, you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch Friday thirteenth, but then purple Rain. No, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You can't watch that because she jumps

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<v Speaker 1>in the lake or or just just fast forward through

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<v Speaker 1>the lake scene.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Sure parents are weird about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe American parents are like, oh, well, violence is.

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<v Speaker 3>Too much, but violence isn't too much. I mean, but nudity.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're gonna draw the line if Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's like the weird I've told the story for

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<v Speaker 2>another podcast. Like I think a lot of my movie

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<v Speaker 2>watching is Rebellion because my parents first date, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to see Bird with the Crystal plumage, and like they

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<v Speaker 2>would continually bring this movie up as like their barometer

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<v Speaker 2>of what horrible movie is. And like I remember her

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<v Speaker 2>telling me once she's like this movie. They keep hearing

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<v Speaker 2>the sounds of this bird and you don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>the killer is. None of it makes any sense. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was fascinated as a kid. I'm like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>you know this is in the era when I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>just get it. And uh then when I finally saw them,

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<v Speaker 2>like this movie's genius.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I thought, is.

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<v Speaker 2>All my Jallo love really come from trying to go

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<v Speaker 2>against my parents? Perhaps, but I know, definitely my regional

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<v Speaker 2>love is. I mean, you can't grow up in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>without you know, the Romero influence in your life and

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<v Speaker 2>the Romero characters and the you know, the Ramero cinematic

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<v Speaker 2>universe which gets you into the crazies and Marvin effects. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great example. And the weird thing now is

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<v Speaker 2>like I've actually talked to most of the crew and

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<v Speaker 2>guys have worked on effects, and every time I got

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<v Speaker 2>a text.

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<v Speaker 3>From from Dusty Nelson thanking me for doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The interview, and I'm like, dude, like, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>have any idea how important that movie is to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's like, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I nobody in Pittsburgh knows, like the only movie in

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh that people are well, they made Striking Distance and

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<v Speaker 2>that fan damn movie Sudden death here. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>Gone with the Wind of Pittsburgh Cinema, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>people love those. I was just at a toy show

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a huge striking distance poster and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of don't have room for that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>need it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a movie that, like, if you went to a US.

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<v Speaker 2>Store here, it'd be like thirty bucks if you want

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else. If you want to a US store around,

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<v Speaker 2>you would be like a dollar. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>will not claim bloodsucking Pharaohs. I won't claim that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>So hate that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh right there in the title.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's in Lawrenceville, but which is like the

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<v Speaker 2>hipster section of Pittsburgh. So it's a It's okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into it when we get to it. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>That's well.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one thing that I'm hoping for with this

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<v Speaker 1>that I've already watched, see how they hold up. Revisit

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<v Speaker 1>the movies I've seen and didn't like. Maybe I like

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<v Speaker 1>them more now than I did. Then I'll look back

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<v Speaker 1>at stuff maybe I saw and I don't know twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen or so, I watched Don't Go into the Woods

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<v Speaker 1>and I hated it, couldn't it. And now I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>then eighteen I was still in my you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Curosawa and I don't, you know, I'm above this this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I don't some flip, you know, switch flipped

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<v Speaker 1>like my taste devolved. Maybe yeah, And but I think

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<v Speaker 1>is just bad, and now it's like, well, no, no

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<v Speaker 1>one sets out to make a bad movie. I don't think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone everyone's trying to do their best. And

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<v Speaker 1>have Shelley Winters, and they are I mean, they're given.

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<v Speaker 1>They're showing up to work every day and they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get something that you know you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>but then you get stuff whenever they do people pull

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<v Speaker 2>My friends get upset because, like I am like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the inverse of you where they love great films, and

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<v Speaker 2>they know that I watch a lot of movies, but

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<v Speaker 2>I only watch like really bad or like hard to

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<v Speaker 2>find ones. And they were for like six months begging

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<v Speaker 2>me to watch Centers, and I was like, guys, like,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, what other.

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<v Speaker 3>Spanish horror movies do you have to watch? Like what

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<v Speaker 3>other like shot on video stuff from the ag You.

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<v Speaker 1>Still have a few Jeff Franco films you have not.

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<v Speaker 3>Seen sixteen now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I just got a copy of Rolls Royce Baby,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's kind of like Christmas here. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna watch these movies and you're not gonna watch Centers.

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<v Speaker 2>And I watched it and I'm like, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>beat Ganja and hass guys, And they're like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about? We don't even know what that movie is,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, it's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so that's kind of our hope on this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into some movies. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen half of the films that he covers. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and fifty ish that he actually is

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<v Speaker 1>either in a chapter or in capsule reviews there at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. So I've seen about half of those, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe about thirty eight percent of everything if you include

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<v Speaker 1>those films listed in the appendix. So I'm really looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to see it. Like there's a lot that I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen. Like we talked about Martin, I have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. Oh, so when we get to it, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be very excited to see it, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited for you for you to see it

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like one of the most important movies. I

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<v Speaker 2>just went past Barton this morning where his grave is, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just drove across from Braddock and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I would think it every morning. So I used to

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<v Speaker 2>live across the river from it, and I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in Martin's world, but if he were, he real. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a movie that really speaks to me. Is someone

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<v Speaker 2>that grew up here in Pittsburgh and went through the

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<v Speaker 2>death of the steel mill and stuff. It's a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about it way more. We finally get to

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<v Speaker 2>this is an intro. This is not the Martin episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but our the first movie we're going to cover

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<v Speaker 1>is Don't Go in the House. That is prominently featured

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover of My Mere USA of our boy

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie in his asbestos suit with his flamethrower, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into that deeply here in our first episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we hope that you come back and stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned and we'll be getting into Don't Go in the House.

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<v Speaker 1>So join us for the first episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you.