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<v Speaker 1>I want you to take a moment to think about

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<v Speaker 1>how many women you know who are not only mothers,

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<v Speaker 1>but are also raising the standards in their industries, their communities,

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<v Speaker 1>and their culture. Candy King is one of those women.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the founder and CEO of Carnival by Candy,

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<v Speaker 1>a brand dedicated to all things Carnival and making women

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<v Speaker 1>feel confident. Her products are innovative and beautifully made, but

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<v Speaker 1>what makes Carnival by Candy extraordinary is the intention behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, Candy is not just designing stockings and other accessories,

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<v Speaker 1>She's designing experiences. Her story is a reminder that building

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<v Speaker 1>a brand isn't just about strategy. It's about intention. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about vision that's rooted in something deeper than profit, a

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<v Speaker 1>desire to be of service to your culture, your family,

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<v Speaker 1>and yourself. She's not just creating space for Caribbean creatives.

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<v Speaker 1>She's showing us that excellence and authenticity can coexist. In

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<v Speaker 1>the midst of an already powerful dialogue, Candy and I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that we share a cool connection. Both of our

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<v Speaker 1>mothers were flight attendants for Air Jamaica. Now, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about Air Jamaica, you'll remember their iconic slogan

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<v Speaker 1>soaring to new heights, And as I sat with that

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<v Speaker 1>moment afterwards, it struck me how fitting it was for

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<v Speaker 1>the women we are now and the women who raised us.

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<v Speaker 1>Candy is now charting her own flight path, not through aviation,

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<v Speaker 1>but through artistry. Even her daughter's name Chorus, speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>a form of artistry. In music, a chorus is what

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<v Speaker 1>brings a song together. It's what echoes, what repeats, and

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<v Speaker 1>in Candy's life, it symbolizes something deeper, the harmony between

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<v Speaker 1>womanhood and motherhood, creativity and clarity. This episode is about

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<v Speaker 1>that balance, about what it means to lead with ambition

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<v Speaker 1>and intention to build something royal in its essence and

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in the rhythm of who you are. So grab

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<v Speaker 1>your tea, coffee, or a glass of wine and let's

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<v Speaker 1>Talk the Things. Hello everyone, Welcome back to Let's Talk

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<v Speaker 1>the Things, where we discuss personal growth, travel, music, beauty

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<v Speaker 1>and wellness while encouraging you to live fearlessly and fabulously.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Ash and this week we are talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Taints with a woman who has taken the business

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<v Speaker 1>of carnival and turned it into a vehicle of culture, empowerment,

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<v Speaker 1>and Undeniable Caribbean pride entrepreneur, television host and CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>Carnival by Candy Candy King. Hi Candy, how are you? Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Ash? I'm so excited to be on your podcast. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for having me. I am doing it

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<v Speaker 2>just fine today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Thank you so much for being here. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go me too.

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<v Speaker 1>So, for as a first time guest, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>and for persons that are listening for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>we begin each episode with our listener's favorite segment, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's called datna Sound safe? So so, Candy, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to read messages or social media posts that listeners sent in.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you think it sounds crazy or a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit concerning, you just say that notes sounds safe and

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<v Speaker 1>explain why. And if you agree, you say you agree

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<v Speaker 1>and explain why sounds good?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, it's not scary, just.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first person said, my son found me crying

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen. He wrapped his arms around me and whispered, mummy,

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<v Speaker 1>is it because you're fat? Now I'm crying for two reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so none So for she.

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<v Speaker 4>K's and I mean, can't blame them right because they

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<v Speaker 4>haven't as called it, and as you grow up you

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<v Speaker 4>kind of learn and get to what's appropriate and what's

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<v Speaker 4>not appropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a little bit of very true, very.

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<v Speaker 1>True, half and half half. I agree, okay. The next

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<v Speaker 1>person said, don't tell me you miss me, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>you're outside with doubles. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. Very safe love language like come on, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me whatever you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, absolutely, I'm in the group.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The next one, the person said, what is a luxury

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<v Speaker 1>that most people I should say? The person asked, what

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<v Speaker 1>is a luxury that most people don't realize is a luxury?

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<v Speaker 1>And the person answered friends. Having actual friends, not familiar acquaintances,

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<v Speaker 1>real friends one of the best hacks for a fulfilling life.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely agree, actual and factual. I live by that. I

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<v Speaker 2>have had friends since high school. It's something that I

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<v Speaker 2>love to talk about that they've seen me through every season.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen each other through all our seasons where knowing

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<v Speaker 2>motherhood together coincidentally, it's great. It does enhance my life

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<v Speaker 2>in so many ways. Just social literally yesterday that the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of the relationships in your life is what determines

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<v Speaker 2>like how happy you are and how long you live

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. I one thousand person believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, I agree, Yes, that is very safe. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you just said is so true the

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<v Speaker 1>quality of relationships, right, because you'll see some people and

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<v Speaker 1>they have like so many friends, but they're not really friends,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get what I'm saying. Like they have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people show up to their birthday party, but

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<v Speaker 1>can they call those people having a hard time? Or

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<v Speaker 1>can they tell them their secrets? You know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like people don't understand the value of friendship and same.

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends from high school still, some friends even

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<v Speaker 1>from prep school, you know what I mean. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think like we can call on you know who you

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<v Speaker 1>can ye?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Okay, that one sounds safe. All right? Two more,

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<v Speaker 1>This one is hilarious. The person said he blocked me

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<v Speaker 1>on everything, so I applied to his job and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting next week.

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<v Speaker 2>That let's sound safe. That's sound safe. That sounds very toxic, miss, miss,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds very toxic. Let's not go there. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>let by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, don't try to force things. Please, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that serious. It can never be that non at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, we have to learn to let go, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the only thing we're supposed to be chasing, ladies

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<v Speaker 1>is our dreams. Please not not the man, not them,

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<v Speaker 1>let them come to you. Exactly exactly. That's wild, though

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<v Speaker 1>not applied for his dream crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't. Okay, Like as a species, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't we do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we're what we're doing better, We're sure sure, sure, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Last one in this segment, the person said, you'll find

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<v Speaker 1>me where there is peace, where there is joy, where

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<v Speaker 1>there is reciprocity, where words of protection are spoken over me,

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm celebrated for growing and wanting better for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where I exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, this is where we bloom, This is where we grow,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is all. I love that. That sounds very

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<v Speaker 2>safe to me. I'm here for the reassurance, for the

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<v Speaker 2>words of affirmation, like, yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is how we grow. Yes, the relationships as well, Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And just like what you said, you know, it's important

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<v Speaker 1>our environment too, we surround ourselves with and just being

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere where you're valued. I think that says a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about how you see yourself too. Exactly. You know, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that one sounds very safe.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>See I told you, it's always frightened when I say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sure, sure, Oh no, it's good, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just to loosen it up a little bit, something fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk the real things. You are someone that

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<v Speaker 1>I've really been looking forward to talking to, not just

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<v Speaker 1>about business, but about purpose and just all of the

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<v Speaker 1>amazing achievements you've accomplished as a woman in the male

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<v Speaker 1>dominated carnival industry. So let's go back to younger Candy.

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<v Speaker 1>Take me back to your prep school days in Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of little girl were you and were there

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<v Speaker 1>any early signs of you wanting to build something on

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<v Speaker 1>your own?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not, I age. I was not one of those

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<v Speaker 2>people that knew what they wanted to do in life

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<v Speaker 2>or had any idea or I don't think it's something

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<v Speaker 2>my parents pressured me for either. So it wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>on my book my radar until I was grown up,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I had to decide at some point, which

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<v Speaker 2>I still I mean, the story about how I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in Cannibal is quite accidental, even though I've loved

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<v Speaker 2>it since being a child. So I mean growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have seen my parents play Jamaica Cannival, which

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<v Speaker 2>was fun. We would me and my cousins would go

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<v Speaker 2>out on the roadside to watch them pass. And even

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, it was just a thing to do

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<v Speaker 2>on that day, no real interest. But when I became

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<v Speaker 2>of age, now, I guess sometime in high school and

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to jump Cannibal for my first time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe it would be a little after high

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<v Speaker 2>school and trying to remember if I was sixteen or

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen when it happened, But you know, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>experience it because it was something for us to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Was very cool at the time. Everybody wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of it. And I did it for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, and I wouldn't even sat arrest this history

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<v Speaker 2>like we enjoyed it. We continued to jump here after

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<v Speaker 2>year I went to college. That kind of put us

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<v Speaker 2>spoke in the wheels because I was at home to

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<v Speaker 2>jump Cannibal. But I remember just even as a little girl,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I had no clean for carnival. I

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<v Speaker 2>was just being a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I was just being a kid, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being very outspoken. I have a brother and

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<v Speaker 2>our parents would describe each of us as like this

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<v Speaker 2>is the old spoken one, like this is a little

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<v Speaker 2>shy one. And I was not they one. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was spoken one. I was a social butterfly. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody said I was a chatterbox. All my report cards

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<v Speaker 2>came back with the chat too much as potentials, but

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<v Speaker 2>just too much that kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of thing that was me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, you know I used to be so nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with carnival or even business. I mean, even

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<v Speaker 2>as I got older, I kind of saw myself in

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<v Speaker 2>a corporate environment, working my way up. I was not

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<v Speaker 2>beaten by no entrepreneurial book.

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<v Speaker 1>I never wanted to be known.

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<v Speaker 2>I never want myself that did so hard. So yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I never wanted to do. It's completely by accident.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of my child. So what is the

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<v Speaker 1>story then, because it's so strange to me, like you've

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<v Speaker 1>done so much. I just exacted you to have that story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting. So I would have had a corporate

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<v Speaker 2>job when I first I went to school in Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>for four years, I got my degree, I came, I

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<v Speaker 2>moved back to Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a corporate job. I was working. I was comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun. I enjoyed my job. I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was good at my job, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Knew once I had enough money, which is this was

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<v Speaker 2>my first real stable, corporate job. Now that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to try to go to Trinidad Cannibal because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have seen people gone. It looked really fun,

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and eleven or twelve of one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>But since I had gone and kind new the ropes

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, boy, that would have been great supplemental income

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<v Speaker 2>winging it with the carnivals. But it blossomed, it bloomed,

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<v Speaker 2>it continued to grow. People wanted to go to other carnivals.

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<v Speaker 2>So after Trinidad, I had trainees that wanted to come

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that, you know, it's kind of a niche,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are people who carnival hop. There's a really

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<v Speaker 2>yeah like industry hair. So that's how I first got

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<v Speaker 2>started doing that. I did have other jobs, corporate jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>even in between, because I was sure. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>like we need to get a serious job. You know, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I started to do other little things that

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I remember you were hosting a show. Yes I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was hosting.

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<v Speaker 1>Access TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah I did. And those things are things I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still passionate about to be stayed. But boy, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>of all just kind of come compact over my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I still do it where I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to the other day, which I hosted an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing show, but I was still in Cannibal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's that's really.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately how I got started my advice. Every time I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that boy, I still had a foot.

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<v Speaker 1>In corporate and that's really what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like. I had other incomes at the time because I

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<v Speaker 2>just was not sure. Sometimes the money was good, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. Monster great, monster, h you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how it goes. Yeah, I still had a push.

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<v Speaker 2>In corporate somewhere. There was some stable income at all

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<v Speaker 2>times as I went along. After that, we started a

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<v Speaker 2>band in twenty sixteen here in Generica.

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<v Speaker 1>That went really well for a time.

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<v Speaker 2>But like most entrepreneurs, some things work out, some things don't,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was one of the things that did not

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<v Speaker 2>work out for me. It was very hardbreaking in a life, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just one of those things that, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>just have.

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<v Speaker 1>It just didn't work out. Yeah, it didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>I was okay with it. And then the pandemic hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl. Oh yes, that's food right. Yes, that must have

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<v Speaker 1>been so hard, just for the industry exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Entertainment was completely dead. We could not gather, we could

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<v Speaker 2>not go to carnival, we could not do anything. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a really difficult time. Thank god, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>really amazing partner who's not my husband. Yes, I got

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<v Speaker 2>pregnant started a family in that time, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>blessed that I was able to afford to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually glad it happened in the pandemic because it

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<v Speaker 2>afforded me the space and the time, especially the mental

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<v Speaker 2>capacity to really like doning on being a mom and

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<v Speaker 2>even learning things. Yeah, I mean, because girl, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just tell you that, you know, and it was wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>I can well imagine because it was also very lonely.

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<v Speaker 2>But me with notice, I mean, people used to send

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<v Speaker 2>to me all the time, like my my child was

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<v Speaker 2>talking early A lot of the pandemic babies, we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of crazy things much than people would say

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<v Speaker 2>that their children would have done them or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's because we had the space and the time to

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<v Speaker 2>like be with them all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time. Yeah, we were with them all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see the difference that that makes when you

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<v Speaker 2>are present and fully present with your children and your family.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so that's those are the positive things that

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<v Speaker 2>I would have taken out of the pandemic. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>continued in Carnival and right before the pandemic though, is

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<v Speaker 2>when I would have thought of the kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>accessories idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, yes, I thought that was so brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really what changed life. That's really that was

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<v Speaker 2>the idea. Yeah, man, the only one I was a

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<v Speaker 2>catalyst that was that was so I would have thought

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<v Speaker 2>of that right before the pandemic and then the pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was just like more mom. But right

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<v Speaker 2>after the pandemic I had to really pick things back

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<v Speaker 2>up by rebranded. I came back really really strong with

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<v Speaker 2>uh well, I rebranded the company. So initially, when I

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<v Speaker 2>used to help people to get to carnivals, I call

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<v Speaker 2>that Carnival by Candy, But when I thought of the

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<v Speaker 2>stockings and the accessories, I named it stocking by Candy

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, well, Carnival by Candy was something else

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't. I had kind of shut down that

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<v Speaker 2>concerge side of the business because the reality was it

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<v Speaker 2>was I guess, like way too much stress and like

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<v Speaker 2>not enough money.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't making me like.

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<v Speaker 2>Wealth you know what, I like, I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>from when they were were like you put in it

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<v Speaker 2>was great supplemental income, but like scaleability just was not

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<v Speaker 2>really there for me. And there are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>ways I thought that, wow, if I did this and

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<v Speaker 2>I did that, I could scale. But it just came

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<v Speaker 2>back to when you're doing a service based thing, it's

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<v Speaker 2>your time and it's like there's only twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>in a day to get me. It's like yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I felt like it was almost like two

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<v Speaker 2>hard to scale because it required too much out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I thought of like the stuckings, I'm like, butt,

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<v Speaker 2>this can sell wellness, you know what I mean? Yeah, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this can sell all time a day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm skill. I don't have to about this is brilliant, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it really is. I'm so like pushing products on people now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, find a product. Everybody, find a product. Yeah, product,

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<v Speaker 2>because it changed my life. I don't know, everybody's experience

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<v Speaker 2>is different because they're different. Because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people in service based industries that are thriving and doing

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<v Speaker 2>well and wealthy and have scaled their business. Is just true,

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<v Speaker 2>that's true, but it just was not working for me

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<v Speaker 2>at the time. I'm like, I look like a prop

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<v Speaker 2>of all of my time, my mental energy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I felt like I could only do

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<v Speaker 2>so much with the twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours in the day. And I have talked about all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it's like, I don't know, I thank god

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<v Speaker 2>every day that he planted that stucking idea in my

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<v Speaker 2>brain because girl, it was transformative or so brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like that's a transformative I think for a weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was for the industry, and I love plain

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<v Speaker 2>like because people I think it's like like sucks, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you can just buy and sell sucks from any supplier.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fine, and you just sell sucks. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>go downtown this it sucks. It's so it's different. So

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<v Speaker 2>I actually went ahead and got all the protections that

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<v Speaker 2>I needed for my stockings. Yeah, and that's really what

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<v Speaker 2>made the difference because actually when you have an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really important to protect the idea. And I am

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<v Speaker 2>an for this because in the we don't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't do it, we don't believe in it. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's under utilized. Service gypoy is up there, just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they're gathering industry or what. I know

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<v Speaker 2>people do it, but you know, you think it's for

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<v Speaker 2>something company or it's for some corporates. Protecting ideas, protective designs,

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<v Speaker 2>protect the things that you create. And I created something

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<v Speaker 2>and I am really proud of it. But immediately as

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<v Speaker 2>I thought of that idea, I didn't want somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>to do with somebody who had more money. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a better network than me and then when you get

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want that, So yes, it was very important.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was real and it has happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>there have been a lot of copiers. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest.

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<v Speaker 1>On a second, because this is definitely a thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>had Printon Omar from ja on here a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, and they said the same thing. They talked

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<v Speaker 1>about importance of having things done on the business side

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<v Speaker 1>because somebody was literally trying to sell their product at

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<v Speaker 1>a trade show and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>What these people are bright, And you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>gets into like fashion and designing, it even gets more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult because the laws are not as even straight.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not that stockings something exists for that already.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did It's not actually a patent because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't invent stockings. I put a design on seconds. So

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<v Speaker 2>I put a VCT band on existing, an existing item,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just called an industrial design protection. And I

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<v Speaker 2>went ahead and I filed in Jamaica, and I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheap cheap. It was not no big expensive not to

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<v Speaker 2>do either. Yeah, it's reasonably priced to do. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lawyer that was advising me at the

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<v Speaker 2>time she's like, boy, girl, you have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>all these different jurisdictions and file this exact industrial design protection.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to be protected from somebody doing it

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<v Speaker 2>in Trinidad, or somebody doing it in Barbados, or somebody

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<v Speaker 2>doing it anywhere else in the world, you literally have

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the US and file it, Go to

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<v Speaker 2>Barbados filet go to Trinidad and file it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was a boy again. This is going to take upon

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<v Speaker 2>my time again. As you go along in this journey,

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<v Speaker 2>you learn more and more, you get more educated. She

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<v Speaker 2>introduced me to what's called the Hague Agreement, which is

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<v Speaker 2>all these countries sign on to the agreement to say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you apply to the World Intellectual Property Organization in Geneva, Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get a protection that protects it in all

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<v Speaker 2>the countries that have signed on to the agreement. So

422
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<v Speaker 2>she's like, okay, spensive, that one was expensive.

423
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<v Speaker 1>That it was expensive. It was worth it.

424
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<v Speaker 2>It was.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Me.

426
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<v Speaker 2>And when I was doing that en it was in

427
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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic when money was a little tight, and I'm like,

428
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<v Speaker 2>so I feel like.

429
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<v Speaker 1>This could be worth it.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Let me just spend a little money and do it.

431
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<v Speaker 2>But at the times like something you can't see I

432
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<v Speaker 2>return on right. So it's very hard to put money

433
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<v Speaker 2>into something and money inside. And you know, but I'm

434
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<v Speaker 2>so happy that I did that because I did it

435
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<v Speaker 2>and I got through. I got I was shy because

436
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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was doing commissions applications. No, I

437
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<v Speaker 2>do not know what I'm doing or what I'm even answering,

438
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<v Speaker 2>like they're asking questions.

439
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<v Speaker 1>I do not, But you know what, you did it.

440
00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I did it, and that's it.

441
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<v Speaker 1>And so now I'm pretty much protective for the.

442
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<v Speaker 2>World's the idea, which is really really not just humbling,

443
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<v Speaker 2>but I feel good about it, like it gives me

444
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<v Speaker 2>the confidence to continue to pursue this dream and this

445
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<v Speaker 2>business in a very serious way because it means that

446
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<v Speaker 2>I really had I really had an idea that made sense,

447
00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.759
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, the ideas.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Worldwide candy that meant that that means.

449
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<v Speaker 2>And when I see all the copiers at first, the copiers,

450
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>it was really it would bother me and I would

451
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<v Speaker 2>pursue them from the legal route and see some desist.

452
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<v Speaker 2>So many I'm not I don't even want certain things.

453
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say. I don't want to encourage

454
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<v Speaker 2>a body to copy anybody's idea. Right a point where

455
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<v Speaker 2>I decided I just have to focus on what I

456
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<v Speaker 2>am doing and making sure that my product is the

457
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<v Speaker 2>best and when people look at the quality of it

458
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<v Speaker 2>and the features not they'll know. Because if I sit

459
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<v Speaker 2>on a fight, fight, fight, fight, for all I'm going

460
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<v Speaker 2>to do is.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't fight. Everybody can't fight. Everybody worst fighting.

462
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<v Speaker 2>Right Hello, let let's say it's not you know, some

463
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<v Speaker 2>little know them have no business, a hustle or whatever

464
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<v Speaker 2>it is. Like I said, everybody thinks just like I

465
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, sucks it does buy and sell it themselves.

466
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<v Speaker 2>So a big party tell us. People don't have the

467
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<v Speaker 2>education around it.

468
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<v Speaker 1>They don't know, they don't know that it's true.

469
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<v Speaker 3>They don't know.

470
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<v Speaker 2>They don't know any better. So so I always approach

471
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<v Speaker 2>people amicably. First, I'm like, hey, you may not know,

472
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<v Speaker 2>but I actually owned the I callic patent. Because people

473
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<v Speaker 2>don't know any better either, you know. So I'm like,

474
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<v Speaker 2>I actually owned the patent for this design. So and

475
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<v Speaker 2>I even said to people like seller for yeah any more.

476
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<v Speaker 2>I have done that before because I that's unreasonable, Like,

477
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<v Speaker 2>I know, you spend your money to go buy the team,

478
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<v Speaker 2>you know, sell it out or buy no more or

479
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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. But I usually want to give people

480
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<v Speaker 2>the education first and approach it amicably. And Limitus tell you, actually,

481
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<v Speaker 2>not one time have I approaching am akable that it

482
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<v Speaker 2>has been approached back to me amicably. It's always like

483
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<v Speaker 2>people calling my bluff. You don't own it, what you're

484
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<v Speaker 2>going to do. I have never had one personship Wow,

485
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, crazy, okay, understood.

486
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

487
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<v Speaker 1>And that's something that I find is really hard for

488
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<v Speaker 1>me to digest a lot of times. We talk a

489
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<v Speaker 1>lot about it on this podcast, you know, being kind

490
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and being good to people and you know, just considering

491
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<v Speaker 1>being considerate of people, and the fact that when you

492
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>do that, it seems like the majority of people don't

493
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<v Speaker 1>take it, as you said, as like whoa, this person

494
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>really could have sued me, but instead they're coming to

495
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<v Speaker 1>me kindly and asking me to do something. They take

496
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<v Speaker 1>it as oh, well, they don't have any backbone, so

497
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 1>I can just tell them whatever, and they're probably going

498
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<v Speaker 1>to be too scared to do anything. And it's just

499
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.039
<v Speaker 1>so unfortunate because to me, I would be appreciative of

500
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<v Speaker 1>somebody approaching me.

501
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Like that, but Nobody, not one person as not one

502
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>person has ever been thank you for the information, thank

503
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 2>you for the education I'm going to do. That's crazy always,

504
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and I have curated and changed that message because I'm like,

505
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's me, maybe maybe my message is on aggressive.

506
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it's the tone or so many as a

507
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<v Speaker 1>whole nicely.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Who soft. I feel like it doesn't matter that the

509
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 2>messages will either get ignored or it would just it's

510
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>just always nobody has ever.

511
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Said back to me, you know, thank you. I'm so sorry.

512
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know even just that I just didn't know,

513
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:13.279
<v Speaker 2>because I know people don't.

514
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Know even just to take accountability.

515
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 2>It's hard, Yeah, it's hard. So yeah, we we we

516
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.200
<v Speaker 2>continue to struggle through that challenge. But like I said,

517
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I have done so many things on my stockings now

518
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:29.759
<v Speaker 2>to distinguish them from the pack. I've added features to them.

519
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 2>I've done like quality checks, We've done different types of

520
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>stockings now, like we the thing is so elevated now

521
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that it's it's almost hard to know all of the

522
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>features that are under stockings.

523
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>And I love it. I love it.

524
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

525
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the best route you could take.

526
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>And then let me just tell you again, people think

527
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>this thing is so simple, like, oh, she's just buying

528
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.799
<v Speaker 2>and selling stockings. But when I say that, this has

529
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 2>been the single most profitable thing I've ever done in

530
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:59.160
<v Speaker 2>my life, I'm a whole thing.

531
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<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of I know you have self

532
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 1>jobs girls, and it.

533
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Has far surpassed any corporate job I've ever had. I

534
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 2>mean really, yeah, I'm surpassing.

535
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Even my's amazing.

536
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>And who are in corporate, I'm surpassing their salaries. It

537
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.839
<v Speaker 2>has been very successful for me. I'm very proud of it.

538
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 2>And it continues to grow. It continues to grow.

539
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that, and I think that's such a

540
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 1>good example that you're setting, even for your daughter, right,

541
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<v Speaker 1>And it brings me to my next topic. There's a

542
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<v Speaker 1>quote I came across that made me think of you,

543
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and it says a mother is not defined by what

544
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>she gives up to have a child, but what she

545
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>chooses to build alongside her child, not despite them, but

546
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 1>because of them. That's so interesting, isn't it, Because a

547
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of times I think that people think once you

548
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>become a mother, like your life is over. You know

549
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you can do that way? Do you think for yourself?

550
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it can. I'm not a mother yet, I'm

551
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>sure it can't feel that way. But you're a great

552
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 1>example of, you know, being a mother, a CEO, a creative,

553
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, a daughter of the Caribbean. You know, some

554
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>would say, how do you balance those roles and how

555
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 1>has motherhood changed maybe your definition of success.

556
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<v Speaker 2>So very interesting that you should even bring this up,

557
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>because just last week when I was struggling through Cannibal

558
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in Jamaica, which this was a very season for me.

559
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Us of course, get a corporate job, ok, baby, get

560
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:36.079
<v Speaker 1>a corporate se You know, you sound like your parents.

561
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>But again, you know, I mean I'm joking. Of course,

562
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 2>can do what you want. I'm not one of those

563
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 2>people that is going to force her to do something

564
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>that I have or project something on her in my

565
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>hand about who she should be. I want her to

566
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>be her own person. I want her to live out

567
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>her own dreams in whatever world where she wants to

568
00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>do them. And I'm not hard on fast on any curve.

569
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she doesn't need to be a doctor or

570
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot. I just want her to do something. Oh yeah,

571
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.759
<v Speaker 2>you have doing and good enough money for her own lifestyle.

572
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not hard and fast on that. But in

573
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<v Speaker 2>terms of the balance, every single time people have asked

574
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 2>me this question, I have the same answer, and the

575
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>answer is there's no balance. You know, if I am

576
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>doing one thing strong, something else is suffering. So, for example,

577
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 2>even during those like Carnival in Jamaica is a very

578
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>difficult time for me in terms of time. I am

579
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 2>also the head of marketing at a band in Jamaica

580
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>which is exited as Carnival. I do have Carnival by Candy,

581
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>pop up shops and various things to manage it. That's

582
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>is concerned. I have an event Carnival week as well.

583
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of different moving parts. It's also distribution

584
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.519
<v Speaker 2>to Exodus, so we have If you've ever played Cannibal

585
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and you see what distribution is like, it's very busy for.

586
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 1>The staff who have to work it.

587
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's a very tedious, time consuming thing

588
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 2>and it will take up your whole day and your

589
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>whole night just to make sure that things are in

590
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:02.359
<v Speaker 2>place for mascarados.

591
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>So there were a lots of different living.

592
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Parts, stockings and Carnival by Candy on the accessoris end

593
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>is also very logistical, so I have to make sure

594
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 2>stock gets to certain locations. We have to do stock checks.

595
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>If something runs, oh you have to bring it up

596
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.039
<v Speaker 2>back from another location. There's a lot, and I have

597
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>staff and everybody is doing what they're supposed but it's

598
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it's physically demanding on me for a cannibal week, and

599
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 2>so I'm not present at home, and so I am

600
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 2>not at home right, So there's no balancer that's is concerned.

601
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I come home and my daughter would be sleeping,

602
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and she gets I kiss up in her sleep and

603
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I tell her I love her. Well, she's sleeping, and

604
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 2>that's that's just it. Before she wake up, I'm probably gone,

605
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 2>or all I get to do is wake up and

606
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>take her to school or tell her goodbye as she

607
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 2>goes to school. But I don't like when one thing

608
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>is thriving, something else is suffering and something so.

609
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It has been in my life.

610
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't I can't say I'm doing two things really well,

611
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 2>but I will say in the end, and I always

612
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about this with my husband, especially just in our dynamic.

613
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>My daughter always all right, you know, she's always fine.

614
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 2>The guilt is on me when I'm not present.

615
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, yes, what she feeling get home with

616
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>her dad, or.

617
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 2>She's with her grandma or you know what I mean.

618
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>She's fine. She's actually fine. And so the guilt has

619
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 2>actually been living with mothers all this time, because it's

620
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>not that I've never present, It's just that I had

621
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>a project whill I was working. And so those are

622
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 2>the examples that I set, or that I hope to set. That,

623
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Like mommy is hard working. And I always said to her,

624
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>even if mommy leaves, mommy always comes back.

625
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.599
<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's the.

626
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Thing, Like even if she's like, Momie, don't go, I'm like, yes,

627
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Mommy has to go, but Mommy is gonna come back.

628
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's just saying like we live by that, like

629
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

630
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Gone, I'm just going to do something. I'll be right back,

631
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, or I'll see you tomorrow.

632
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Or what ad I say is your dreams exactly, know,

633
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like you're pursuing your dreams and you're getting up and

634
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you're in a very non traditional way. But yeah, exactly.

635
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's important for her to see all aspects of working.

636
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, working is not just nine to five, and

637
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it's in our generations that's a lot.

638
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>With myself and her dad, who is a musician, right,

639
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, we both have non traditional entertainment based jobs,

640
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 2>and so she right. Sometimes we're like, of course if

641
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 2>we did have nine to five, you know, because she

642
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>loved you know, she loves when we are just quickly

643
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>northstet when I'm not.

644
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 1>She loved that. She loved more than having.

645
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Ninety fives.

646
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Girl, what would she do till six pens? And that's

647
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 1>so funny. I feel like I can relate to because

648
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>my dad is a musician and my mom used to

649
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>work for a Jamaica when I was great, so I

650
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>know that life. Yeah, she was a flight attendant for

651
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>many years. I probably know each other, I'm sure you know.

652
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, they still talk on around. Yes, they're

653
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 1>in group chats everything. No, it's it's like my mom

654
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>talks about it and it's like tears want to come

655
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 1>to her eyes. It's a very strange thing.

656
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Love that company, you know.

657
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh, but you have to admit it was but it

658
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 1>was a lovely feeling. Yes, you know you know what

659
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Yes, I feel bad for anyone that didn't

660
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>get to experience Jamaica like utensils, knife and fork, peanuts.

661
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Aware, silverware, yes, silver aware.

662
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we'll be traveling and my mom would be like, wow,

663
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>is this all the the flight attendant dress nowadays? Mom

664
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a judgment because she's so used to like how they

665
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>had she tells me do all these things and going

666
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.599
<v Speaker 1>for like you know, measurements and all these It was

667
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>like a hole to do, you know what I mean,

668
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>So like she's just not used to hald flight attendants

669
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.159
<v Speaker 1>just come and serve you peanuts like still not she

670
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>still can't.

671
00:34:58.320 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>It was just thrown back of peanuts on the table.

672
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>That's it, yes, exactly. And she was in a time

673
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>where they were doing like modeling on the plane and

674
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 1>all that. So yeah, it was it was definitely to

675
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>tell you, yeah, I agree with it.

676
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean like that entire being a flight attendant was

677
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>like this option. Like Jamaica flight attendants were amazing to.

678
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Me, like they were like mister, yes, they were just beautiful,

679
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like everybody was beautiful.

680
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Like it was like I said, it was a moment.

681
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>If you know you know you were there, then yeah,

682
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to.

683
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You really quickly about the emotional and even spiritual I

684
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>guess sense behind carnival, right because people think it's just

685
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>like jumping up and down and pretty costumes. But I

686
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 1>think there's more to it, right. I think it's just

687
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 1>it really represents freedom and liberation and celebration. I think,

688
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, Soca music in and of itself is just

689
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>so positive, So I wonder what it means to you

690
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you Carnival as a whole.

691
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, Carnival has been a very liberating experience for me.

692
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember my.

693
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>First training that Carnival. It was like an epiphany of sorts.

694
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.599
<v Speaker 2>It was like it was the funnest thing I had

695
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 2>ever done in my entire life, and I felt really

696
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>free in those moments where I was jumping off and

697
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>down or that's just what it represented.

698
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:30.199
<v Speaker 1>It was.

699
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>It was like freedom in motion for me at the time,

700
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 2>where I got to be like fully myself and unfiltered,

701
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>and it felt really good. I mean, I know a

702
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of people think it's just like phetos and beds

703
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 2>and skill because exactly, but it is very spiritual for people,

704
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 2>particularly for those who you know, like the training is.

705
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 2>They have the cultural element behind their Carnival as well,

706
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 2>so they're very serious about it. And once I got

707
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the education behind how it started, how we got to

708
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>where we are today, you get a greater appreciation for it.

709
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>It's very you know, ancestral, and it's a spiritual relea

710
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 2>so a lot of people, not just for myself. So

711
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>it has been very healing for me. And one of

712
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 2>the things that I have taken pride in doing is

713
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 2>making women more confident. And that is where that journey

714
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of began for me. Yes, I wanted to once

715
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I started and I was like, boy, this thing is

716
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>so nice. And I mean it was all fun, fun

717
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 2>and well and good and healing, and but like you know,

718
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>you start to see some gaps and that stucking thing.

719
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Like literally, I'm just like scrolling on social media and

720
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing like everybody look good, but I'm stucking band

721
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>just showing it's like an eyesore, and even coming from

722
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the concierge, like you want to elevate people's experience because

723
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Trinidad was a carnival, it was hard to get to.

724
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not like Jimmy Corey your stuff at Esa Tagamat

725
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 2>and buy a ticket for the dance and it.

726
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Just got to dance, you know what I mean?

727
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>That is what we culturally have come to me.

728
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>There's no expensivity around events.

729
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Every promote and want them dance to run, and so

730
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the tickets are all over everywhere. It can stuff and

731
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>get one anytime, and so Jamaicans are not accustomed to that.

732
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>And you have to in its entirety holistically plan A

733
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>trined that Carnival trip from top to bottom. You have

734
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 2>to know what fetes you're going to in advance, you

735
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 2>have to know who you're on the road with in advance.

736
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Everything has to be planned in advance. And I was

737
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>saying to myself at that time, like I need to make.

738
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>This more seamless and easier for people.

739
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 2>And it was the same thing when I thought of

740
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the accessories and the stockings. It's like I wanted to

741
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 2>elevate the Carnival experience. And a lot of what has

742
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>happened for me in Carnival is because I wanted to

743
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>improve the product in some way. But yes, it started

744
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>from that spiritual aspect and feeling very liberated and feeling

745
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.320
<v Speaker 2>like just having a really good time. That's really where

746
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 2>it's you crave that once you've experienced it.

747
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>And I felt like, how.

748
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Can I make this better for people, particularly women.

749
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And I and you.

750
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, it's so hard when people give you a compliment

751
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 2>it's like I want to thank you, like.

752
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, take it can please thank you just say.

753
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>The truth is every year when people were in things

754
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:26.599
<v Speaker 2>like particularly the last two years, because I have further

755
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 2>put another little feature on the stockings now where girls

756
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 2>can think of like a baby one day they can

757
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.079
<v Speaker 2>open a little flap and use the bathroom if they need.

758
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:40.199
<v Speaker 1>To or cuse me their feminine heigh. Oh my gosh, no,

759
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I need to get up here, because that is serious.

760
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:44.199
<v Speaker 1>That a vading.

761
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Once you string up antirep your costume, which girls do,

762
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 2>they will nothing. They will tie it up them string

763
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 2>it up set.

764
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 1>As it can.

765
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Some girls will stitch themselves in so that pieces don't

766
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 2>move or don't slide down or slide off.

767
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>You don't get to take.

768
00:39:58.639 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 2>It off until the end of the day.

769
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, Oh my gosh, So we.

770
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Used to back in the day it's a little hole

771
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.760
<v Speaker 2>in the seats of the stocking, so that you could

772
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 2>just be used to that. And I said, well, we

773
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:11.639
<v Speaker 2>just need to make the stockings with a little thing,

774
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, like we thought. So I just I just

775
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 2>put a little flap on the stocking. Now you just

776
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 2>open it and if you need to, you know, feminine

777
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>hygiene things, use the restroom whatever it is, and then

778
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 2>you can close it back and continue. And people have

779
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>to be on the road to be like, oh my god,

780
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I was on a period or because that time in

781
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.599
<v Speaker 2>a month, or I'm so happy I did this. I

782
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 2>used to to cut the hole and then the whole

783
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.960
<v Speaker 2>stocking would rip for whatever it is. And that makes

784
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>me feel good for women, that makes me feel.

785
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh my gosh. That is literally like a game changer, seriously,

786
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.039
<v Speaker 1>for so many reasons, just for the simple fact if

787
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you're just somebody that has to use the bathroom a lot.

788
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:49.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

789
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes people come up to the booth to buy

790
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.360
<v Speaker 2>a stockings and I will ask them, I'm like, are

791
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you a person that like uses the bathroom a lot

792
00:40:57.960 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>on the road Because I don't know, some reason I

793
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>do not have to go on the road, So I

794
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'm sweating, I don't know if I'm drinking.

795
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I really I never have to go. I do not

796
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 1>know the entire time. Entire time, I never have.

797
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a little crazy, man, but its czy.

798
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a stress Maybe I don't know if it

799
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 1>is stressful.

800
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Trust me when I tell you that that is the

801
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 2>single most comment. I'm a game changer for me, So yes,

802
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 2>thank you all of that to say thank you all

803
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 2>the things. Yes, thank you, thank you so much.

804
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>No, you're welcome, and you know. In addition to all

805
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of that, I just think even the way that some

806
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>of the costumes are structured now everybody is not necessarily

807
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with, like let's say the front part. So I

808
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like it also gives us women a little bit

809
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>more confidence that nothing is going to pop out that

810
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>should you know? Ye exactly, So I think, yeah, that's

811
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that's why it's just such a game changer to me.

812
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Sure, the innovation now in terms of features on the

813
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:03.320
<v Speaker 2>stuffings has no big come like a pillar of carnival

814
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>by candy, Like people look out for what are we

815
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>going to do next on an accessory or how are

816
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.079
<v Speaker 2>we going to elevate or make it easier for women

817
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.760
<v Speaker 2>or for people who are playing masks.

818
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>So this has become a little pressure in on a life. Yes,

819
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you're great, People have higher expectations.

820
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, So I am we are really pushing the company

821
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>now to continue to innovate and to invent and to

822
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 2>create things because we don't just want to buy and sell, right,

823
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, we want to elevate their carnival experiences.

824
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>We want to move into different experiences because this doesn't

825
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 2>just have to be carnivals. Like every time I look

826
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.119
<v Speaker 2>at Beyond Our World Torn and tell us we're performing

827
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 2>all over the stockings they have, Yes, they're.

828
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Dancing all especially Beyonce.

829
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>She loves us, she loves us stuckling. So you know,

830
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:50.360
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to, like, you know, go into other industries

831
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.039
<v Speaker 2>and navigate through the space in the performing arts in

832
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:54.519
<v Speaker 2>some way.

833
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's kind of work the five year goal.

834
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Not that you asked, but well, I feel well, you.

835
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Know what I was going to say. First of all,

836
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:03.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're reading my notes because that's going

837
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 1>to be my next question. So thank you you got

838
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 1>ahead of me. But I will stop that to say,

839
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to put it on in the universe.

840
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Beyonce Act three, she's going to have

841
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 1>to have some carnival by candy, Thank you, And I

842
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>think that's what we're seeing.

843
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 2>That's right then, thanks, and that's on that period.

844
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, so I wanted to ask you what's next

845
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for a Carnival by Candy besides Beyonce wearing it exactly.

846
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 2>So, like I said, yeah, we want to move into

847
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 2>some different spaces, particularly in particularly in the dance world.

848
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't even feel like I've completely dominated the carnival space.

849
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:48.559
<v Speaker 2>Carnival is a multi billion industry. Girl, there is a

850
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.440
<v Speaker 2>long way to go. This is a long way to go.

851
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 1>And the girls, yes, you pick the right industry business perspective.

852
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 2>The girls paid to Carnival. Carnival is not cheap.

853
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>The costume not cheap. No, the flight not cheap.

854
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not cheap.

855
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Nothing is cheap.

856
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Nothing about it is cheap. And I want, like I said,

857
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I want them to have a good experience. I want

858
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 2>them to be comfortable on the road. For some reason,

859
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 2>when people put on stockings, I feel like they have

860
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 2>on pants. As you know, the costumes can be very

861
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 2>skim piece. So it's it's like I want to continue.

862
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of other markets. I haven't even

863
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>gone in with the stockings. People have heard of it.

864
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, what are you bringing your stockings to?

865
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Where about Saint Martin or or a little cannival. There's

866
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>lots of Caribbean carnivals in every nook and cranny around

867
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:36.400
<v Speaker 2>the world, around North America, there's all kinds of living canivals,

868
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 2>big cannivals. There's nothing hill, there's there's still a long

869
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 2>way for me to go in Cannibal. So I know

870
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 2>people will often be like, oh, what's next time. It's like,

871
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm still focusing on dominating here in this industry, and

872
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.199
<v Speaker 2>then three to five are moving on into other industries.

873
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:55.159
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's really where we are.

874
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, again, with some emphasis on innovation, will continue.

875
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:01.639
<v Speaker 2>We want to have new drops every year. We want

876
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 2>to innovate, we want to elevate the experience. So yeah,

877
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I love that We're going to continue to create. That's

878
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>what we're going to continue to do.

879
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Before we transition to our final segment, I've been allowing

880
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>my guests to ask me one question this season, So

881
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:20.599
<v Speaker 1>is there anything you'd like to ask me?

882
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I would love to know, like this podcast thing, Like

883
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 2>tell me about the business of podcasting. I need to

884
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 2>be educated on the business of podcasting because it's something

885
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like loosely interested in. So it's something I would

886
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:43.000
<v Speaker 2>have asked you off the airport. I mean, since you asked, yeah,

887
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 2>shine some light, how has it been going, How did

888
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>you get started? All of that stuff?

889
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know what's so funny? You may want to

890
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>ask a different question. Here's why I know when I

891
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 1>tell you, you're gonna be shocked, because most people are.

892
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I know nothing about part casting, I know nothing about journalism,

893
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.519
<v Speaker 1>I know nothing about communicating. I'm being dead serious. Oh.

894
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I started this podcast was I was doing my masters

895
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.199
<v Speaker 1>at Harvard and I had a project where I looked

896
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 1>at the effects of violence on women and girls of

897
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.599
<v Speaker 1>the Jamaica and diaspora. Right, so, persons that leave Jamaica

898
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.320
<v Speaker 1>come here, you know the man, the man may end

899
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 1>up killing some woman, or the woman ends up with

900
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.679
<v Speaker 1>an abuser, stuff like that. And I found that most

901
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.199
<v Speaker 1>of these women they just didn't have a space where

902
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they felt encouraged to leave that situation, or the men

903
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a space where they felt seen, or just

904
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:37.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't really have a space.

905
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Right.

906
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 1>So I just had this idea, what if I just

907
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:45.039
<v Speaker 1>started a podcast where I just brought people on, like first,

908
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>my friends and family at first, and like my uncles

909
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 1>because I told you, my dad's a musician. So brought

910
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.519
<v Speaker 1>people on that just talked about their lives and how

911
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 1>they got to where they got to just for people

912
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to be encouraged, and then it just turned into this,

913
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.199
<v Speaker 1>so I had wow, Yes, that's why I'm like, I'm

914
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.880
<v Speaker 1>probably not the best person because it literally just happened

915
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>and from there so many people heard about it, and

916
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting people that are very famous obviously that helps,

917
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people and this is what means

918
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot to me. A lot of people have come

919
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>on just because they feel comfortable speaking to me. I've

920
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.880
<v Speaker 1>never had anyone ask me to tell them the questions beforehand.

921
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I take that very seriously. I did, Oh my gosh,

922
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm the first person. You know.

923
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I actually a little bit from anxiety.

924
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 1>It is like I need to know.

925
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I need to know because I want to prepare and

926
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to not be prepared. I actually thought

927
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to myself that I need to practice more interviews where

928
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the questions or I don't know the questions, and.

929
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the reason. So the reason behind that is I've

930
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 1>even have my parents on here, and the reason behind

931
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that is because I want it to be genuine. I

932
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 1>don't want it to be something where I'm like, so, Candy,

933
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 1>how have you you know what I mean? Yeah, and

934
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like you whole show, so you know how it is

935
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>like some people you can give them the questions and

936
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 1>they do know how to respond in a genuine way.

937
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 1>But you have a lots of people that are going

938
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to answer like a robot, and I feel like, I don't.

939
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I want people to come here and feel like it's genuine,

940
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So you've done so I

941
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, thank you so much.

942
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 2>So it's just something.

943
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 1>It's really something that there ends up being a business side, yes,

944
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 1>but I honestly just started doing it and I'm doing

945
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it just for my community. Really, I'm not. It's not

946
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.039
<v Speaker 1>anything that I was like, oh my gosh, this is

947
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 1>going to be a big thing. It's just turned into

948
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that because usually I end up having conversations with people

949
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 1>and we end up being friends afterwards, or we end

950
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>up you know, talking. It just happens because you know,

951
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>we just feel comfortable talking to each other, and I

952
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>think people feel good that they can trust me because

953
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a stranger. And then it just was like wait, wow,

954
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you know that was fun, or she didn't ask me

955
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>anything salacious or nothing like that. So people end up

956
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>feeling comfortable. So I know it doesn't really answer your questions.

957
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know it does.

958
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:19.039
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no that I actually it sounds a

959
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 2>lot like my story, like it just kind of happened

960
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:27.519
<v Speaker 2>and it just it yes, yes, exactly turning into something

961
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, no, I get it.

962
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I guess it exactly exactly.

963
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:33.320
<v Speaker 2>It makes me. It comforts me to know that there

964
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 2>are other people with similar experiences, because you know, I

965
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>have people and friends who have seriously pursued being a

966
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 2>doctor her entire lives, or being a what if it

967
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 2>is a lawyer an engineer, like all the people with

968
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>real professions out there who have been studying for the

969
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 2>last I don't know, fifteen twenty years.

970
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Of their lives.

971
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Personally, yeah, it's like I'm envious, and at first

972
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.079
<v Speaker 2>it's almost intimidating, like, well me just leant of being

973
00:49:58.079 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 2>accountable now, and I'm going to.

974
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Make the best of it.

975
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I had no business plan. I had no you know

976
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:04.800
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. There's a school you got to learn

977
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the industry or or even business.

978
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 1>See, that's why you're so good at it because it's

979
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:14.599
<v Speaker 1>your passion. Passion. Like when something is your passion, it's

980
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>just that's like ever.

981
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Because I want to make you feel better in your costume,

982
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and so you're going to continue not thinking with profits

983
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 2>in mind, but thinking with how can I make this

984
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 2>experience better for you in mind?

985
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 1>And that's the exactly enough coming sleep.

986
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the passion, okay, because exactly that's what's going to

987
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 2>drive you.

988
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Yep, and calling sick. You can't for your passion, No,

989
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 1>I cannot sick. Yeah, it's been Yeah, that's the journey.

990
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.599
<v Speaker 2>And I'm happy that you're also walking a similar pass and.

991
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're both trying to make it refreshing conversation.

992
00:50:58.880 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much.

993
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're welcome. Okay, so we're not totally done yet.

994
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask you six rapid fire questions. So

995
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>you just say the first thing that comes.

996
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 3>To after you just exactly. I literally was like, oh

997
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 3>my god, it was fun.

998
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 1>It's fun. But now you know you can trust me.

999
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 1>It's fun, trust me, trust me. The first question a book, film,

1000
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 1>or quote you return to when you need clarity.

1001
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let me let me talk about the book,

1002
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:41.840
<v Speaker 2>because I just finished this book and it really sat

1003
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:46.199
<v Speaker 2>well with me. It was big magic. Oh yes, and

1004
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 2>that gave me a lot of clarity on a lot

1005
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 2>of things that's going on in my life about ideas

1006
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 2>and how they create. And yeah, it's much about being

1007
00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 2>a creative, continuing to pursue my passion and making sure

1008
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 2>that I act on ideas and I get the ideas.

1009
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:06.719
<v Speaker 2>So it was very it was very motivating for me

1010
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:08.639
<v Speaker 2>that last book that I just read, and of course

1011
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not top of mine for me.

1012
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I love that perfect Okay, so we'll go with that

1013
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 1>the book, all right. Next question, what's a personal habit

1014
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 1>or ritual that keeps you grounded? The gym girl working out? Yes,

1015
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love working out. I'm not a

1016
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 1>big drinker. I don't do anything else as my vice.

1017
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 2>It is working out. I work out four times a

1018
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.719
<v Speaker 2>week at the gym. And I also just added pilates.

1019
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm a plates girl. Now welcome. I love pilates.

1020
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a platus girl. No, so I just added

1021
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 2>that to love that. Yeah, but definitely in the health

1022
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:49.119
<v Speaker 2>and wellness space in that way for just for the

1023
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 2>it's not really so much about the aesthetic of it

1024
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 2>is like, yeah, but it did it, didn't know. It's

1025
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 2>really about just being healthy and from my.

1026
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Mind, yeah, and it makes you feel good. I feel

1027
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 1>it does it does for sure? All right? Next question,

1028
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 1>If you weren't in the carnival or entertainment space, what

1029
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>else would you be doing.

1030
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Media and television. I've said that my whole life. If

1031
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I really, if if kind of all afforded me the

1032
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 2>space and time to continue to pursue media and television,

1033
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 2>I would have. I recently just completed a project called

1034
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Carnival Catwalk, which aired all well. It aired regionally here

1035
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 2>in the Caribbean, and I was the host of that show.

1036
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:35.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the opportunities are not as I'm not

1037
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 2>able to take on the opportunities as I would have

1038
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 2>liked to because I'm busy, I'm doing other things. And

1039
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>if I've been honest and I really play as well, again,

1040
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 2>it's more of a passion project. It's like, if I

1041
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 2>pursued this, I know I probably could have earned more

1042
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.360
<v Speaker 2>of a Right now, It's like, yeah, I do it

1043
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:51.880
<v Speaker 2>when I can.

1044
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>When you can. All right, makes sense. What's one thing

1045
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 1>most people misunderstand about you?

1046
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I would have to say that I have it all

1047
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.679
<v Speaker 2>figured out and I have some amazing work life balance,

1048
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:05.280
<v Speaker 2>which people I was like, how do you do it?

1049
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 2>You seem like you're doing so much, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like everything's on high all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm outing files every single day, you know

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00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I do because of everything that transfered. I'll give you

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00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:20.679
<v Speaker 2>a really short story, because of any everything that transparred

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00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 2>in Cannival this year, I was really on a mental

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00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:25.000
<v Speaker 2>break for the last two weeks, like I have just

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00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 2>been zonkeed and zoned out and just trying to catch

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00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:29.679
<v Speaker 2>my head from a tail.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point.

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00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Have been very kind of lowkey. I mean at home,

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00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I haven't really been paying attention to so much, like

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00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. And my daughter had pictured day at school,

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00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 2>and let me just tell it was a mess.

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00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:40.639
<v Speaker 1>First, I brought her on.

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00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>The wrong day day's school. It was like fix her up, comb, hair, dress, everything,

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00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 2>their life tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Then when I brought her the following.

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00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Day, she's graduating from preschool to go to big school,

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00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 2>and there was like a cap so her hair in

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00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 2>a high ponytail. They're like, we're going to have to that,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh mom. It was in the email that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it is the perception that I have

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<v Speaker 2>it all together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're human.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I'm very much very human almost, and I

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00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 2>make a lot of mistakes. Okay, let me just tell

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00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you so all the time. Yeah, that's the biggest misconception

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<v Speaker 2>that like people see me, you know, social media is

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00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:28.039
<v Speaker 2>a lie and they would see what ye be on

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<v Speaker 2>social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, I'm so happy you said your daughter.

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00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like your career and you're this and you're that,

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00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 2>and yeah she's on that school of the wrong picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy you said that because I think it's

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00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>good to humanize yourself a lot of times. Sure, because yeah,

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00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.239
<v Speaker 1>people don't understand social media is just things you're choosing

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00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to share. Like everybody is dealing with something at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because they're not on camera crying. Absolutely, that doesn't

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00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.920
<v Speaker 1>mean that they're not dealing with something. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>glad you said that for sure. All right, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want an all expense paigre to the Maldives, which five

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<v Speaker 1>people are you bringing? Wow? Well my husband of course,

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00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>of course. Yes, it's like I want to send my

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00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>daughter us. I wouldn't manage to stay home with grandma.

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<v Speaker 2>That bad.

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00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>No, we're not judging, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy that this is a safe space. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love my daughter's name is Corus. I love her

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<v Speaker 2>to the moon, but I want her to have experiences

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00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:29.519
<v Speaker 2>that feel authentic to her. And I'm all these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sound a little bit more me than it's on her.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know she'd love the bee chancing and

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00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 2>she love our parents he but it's on it it

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00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 2>sounds like she may not have the best timey right

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00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:40.960
<v Speaker 2>after that, I would bring my girls. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I've had the same friends for the

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00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 2>last twenty addios. Yes, so yeah, that would be Janelle, Giordance,

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00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Selina so Moora, and then my husband. A lot of

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00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:54.719
<v Speaker 2>people they're meant to kill me.

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00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So you would bring more than five people? You can't

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00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:01.800
<v Speaker 1>say that that's fine? I will okay, So you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is the whole group chat. It is

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<v Speaker 1>all expense paid. So I don't see why.

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<v Speaker 2>Now everybody, I need a whole group chat call me.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. And your husband should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>bring some people to right because.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's a musician, you know who answer yes, that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>killing me just come alone?

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00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I can't manage. But yeah, you're right

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00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.400
<v Speaker 1>about the answer. Ash Okay, so that works, that works

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So last question, what would you say to

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen year old version of yourself, the young woman

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00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.559
<v Speaker 1>who hadn't built the brand, hadn't become a mother, but

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00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:44.039
<v Speaker 1>was dreaming of something more. It's going to be a

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00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 1>bumpy ride, but you'll get there. And you know the

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00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.039
<v Speaker 1>quote that I returned to and it just came, it

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00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>just popped in your hand. Yes, it is that.

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00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.400
<v Speaker 2>And I constantly remind myself of this is that I

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00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:56.920
<v Speaker 2>dreamt about the things I have now, and I always

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00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:00.559
<v Speaker 2>remind myself of that quote that bees are dreams realized

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00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 2>right now, and I have to keep dreaming a new dream. Basically, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I prayed for.

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<v Speaker 2>I prayed for the family, I prayed for the husband,

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00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 2>I prayed for the house. I prayed for the business

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00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to be successful. I know, I want the business to

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00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.079
<v Speaker 2>be more successful, Like there was a time where we

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00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:16.239
<v Speaker 2>just wanted profits, or we just wanted to make sure

1141
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 2>we could sell off the stock or I know it's

1142
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 2>like I have I have people all over the world

1143
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:22.559
<v Speaker 2>asking for the stockings and the demand is high, and

1144
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, now I got to take like another level.

1145
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 2>We need to take it to another level. You know

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00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:28.639
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, so, yeah, we need to. It's a

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00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>quote that I constantly remind myself of that Diesel. I'm

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00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 2>living in a dream realized and if I could talk

1149
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.920
<v Speaker 2>so that eighteen year old girl like a bumpy right,

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00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 2>And it's not It is not linear.

1151
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Entrepreneurship is not linear.

1152
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:44.719
<v Speaker 2>You're not constantly sending the way climb a corporate ladder

1153
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 2>or it's not going to be like that.

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00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.280
<v Speaker 1>And there's going to be a lot of values.

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00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:51.320
<v Speaker 2>There's probably more valides at this point than than peaks,

1156
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 2>but the peaks are peaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's time for my little thank you candle problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sure. Thank you for showing us that

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00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.920
<v Speaker 1>building a life of meaning doesn't require choosing between motherhood

1160
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:12.559
<v Speaker 1>and ambition, softness and strength, or culture and commerce. I

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00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>think you are a living example that legacy is not

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00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>just about what we leave behind, but how we live

1163
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 1>while we're here, how we show up, who we uplift,

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00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and what we create with intention.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you.

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<v Speaker 1>You reminded us that being a woman in leadership is

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<v Speaker 1>not simply about holding a title. It's about holding space

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00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:44.039
<v Speaker 1>for creativity, for responsibility, for joy, and for others to

1169
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.800
<v Speaker 1>rise and for those listening, especially women I hope this

1170
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:51.039
<v Speaker 1>episode really just reminds you that your dreams are not

1171
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>too big, your timing is not off, and your story

1172
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:58.480
<v Speaker 1>is still unfolding, and you don't need permission to step

1173
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>fully into who you are begin coming. You only need

1174
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:06.400
<v Speaker 1>courage and perhaps a little candy colored vision along the way.

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01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, thank you so much for coming. I really

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01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:14.079
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me Ash, thank you

1178
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 2>for thinking of me and inviting me. I'm happy to

1179
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:23.880
<v Speaker 2>share my story, something I'm trying to practice to do

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01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>more of, because, like I said, I always dread being

1181
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the interviewee. So thank you so much for the very

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01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:34.079
<v Speaker 2>well done, practice crushing interview.

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01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Yes, right, not

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01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>like that.
