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Speaker 3: my favorites fellow Northeast boy Blaine Fowler b YU TV
Speaker 3: on a Friday afternoon, Blaine, Happy Friday, Stir.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good?
Speaker 3: Spencer good Man good. Sorry for misbehaving with the clock.
Speaker 3: I know you're a busy guy, but I got.
Speaker 2: I just was worried, like, did I hearn arrange this
Speaker 2: at the right time with Spencer? That's all.
Speaker 1: It's all off, no, all good, all good.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Blaine, if you would have told
Speaker 3: me that not just the number one recruit in high
Speaker 3: school but the number one NBA prospect according to what
Speaker 3: I've read over.
Speaker 1: The course of three classes.
Speaker 3: One class which includes Cooper Flag and aj Debantsa was
Speaker 3: going to play his college basketball at BYU.
Speaker 1: Just a few months ago. I would have told you
Speaker 1: were nuts. But here we are. Here we are, Blaine.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on how this process went down
Speaker 3: and what kind of player BYU fans are in for
Speaker 3: when they watch him next year?
Speaker 2: Did you see a three sixty dunk? Was it last
Speaker 2: night or the night report? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm watching all of it now, man, I'm watching all
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, No, he is. You keep hearing the
Speaker 2: term that NBA folks and college coaches are using, and
Speaker 2: the term they're using as generational player. Right, so he's
Speaker 2: you can't say he's Lebron James or Kobe Bryant yet
Speaker 2: because there's a lot that has to happen. But when
Speaker 2: you look at him at the same age, that's the
Speaker 2: kind of skill set and talent we're talking about, and
Speaker 2: that's not that's not you know, over you know, that's
Speaker 2: kind of over hyping him right now. Now, those guys
Speaker 2: work ethic and taking the talent to a hundred times.
Speaker 2: What they were at that age is what makes them
Speaker 2: some of the greatest players of all time. But but
Speaker 2: those are the types of talent you know that you're
Speaker 2: going to compare him to out of high school. It's
Speaker 2: crazy to even think that he's coming to be like you.
Speaker 2: I couldn't fathom until until a few weeks ago. Now
Speaker 2: I started to hear, you know, kind of what his
Speaker 2: thought process was. He was very well guided by his parents.
Speaker 2: He'll notice that he didn't hire an agent. They just
Speaker 2: hired a financial advisor to do some things, and they
Speaker 2: made it a very, very big family decision. Both his
Speaker 2: mom and dad were very very involved in what he
Speaker 2: was going to do, and they did a ton of research.
Speaker 2: And when when when you listen to the people behind
Speaker 2: the scenes talk about what they were worried about, what
Speaker 2: they were looking for, then all of a sudden he thought,
Speaker 2: you know what, you know, you might have a chance
Speaker 2: on this thing, especially with Kevin Young there and what
Speaker 2: he brings, with the staff that he brought in. And
Speaker 2: I'm not just talking about the coaching staff who have
Speaker 2: a bunch of NBA and d League and international experience,
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about their Nu Christian specialists the strength
Speaker 2: and training people. They all have NBA experience, they've all
Speaker 2: worked with lottery picks, They've all developed great players. They
Speaker 2: all have ties to guys like Devin Booker and Kevin
Speaker 2: Durant and Chris Paul. Those guys still look to them
Speaker 2: for guidance and come and work out with him in
Speaker 2: the off season. And believe me, those guys weighed in
Speaker 2: when AJ's dad reached out, those guys return calls and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would I would go this staff and Kevin Young
Speaker 2: in particular, if I knew I was a one and
Speaker 2: done player with his kind of talent, I would go
Speaker 2: to those guys to be developed. And so there was
Speaker 2: a lot going for Byu when when you heard about
Speaker 2: what his family was doing and what was important to them,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't hey, who's going to be the highest
Speaker 2: bit rout here, who can get the most money with
Speaker 2: Once Byu is able to kind of be in the
Speaker 2: ballgame on that and all things equal, and by the way,
Speaker 2: the family itself said, here's what we're looking for and
Speaker 2: we're tapping it, and we know we can get more
Speaker 2: money than that, but we don't care about more money.
Speaker 2: We want the money to be all equal, and now
Speaker 2: we want to know who's going to develop and who's
Speaker 2: going to get ready to play. Is the first round
Speaker 2: pick next year and possibly the number one pick and
Speaker 2: be what you want out. It's just crazy to me since.
Speaker 1: It's really quite remarkable.
Speaker 3: And you add Xavion Stanton and Chamberlain Burgess, that's the
Speaker 3: number seven class in the country next year, and then
Speaker 3: Yegor Demon, you know, thought to be a top five pick.
Speaker 3: Cannon catching is probably a first round pick if everyone
Speaker 3: stays healthy and all goes to Plan Blaine. That's four
Speaker 3: first round picks, maybe three lottery picks in two years,
Speaker 3: which has never happened in the state of Utah on
Speaker 3: the college basketball scene.
Speaker 1: So you kind of alluded to it.
Speaker 3: And I'm curious from your seat, what is the role
Speaker 3: of Ryan Smith and Danny Ainge in this entire thing.
Speaker 2: I think they they helped be a door opener. I
Speaker 2: don't think that Ryan is putting as much money into
Speaker 2: this as people think he is. I think I think
Speaker 2: Ryan's a presence, right and they when when people come
Speaker 2: to talk to BYU, he's president, he's there. Danny Aingel's president,
Speaker 2: he's there. But but a guy like aj Aj has
Speaker 2: deals that are in place and when we're't dependent necessarily
Speaker 2: on which school he went to, with places like Red
Speaker 2: Bull and Nike, and and so a lot of the
Speaker 2: dollars that we're talking about are NIL dollars that are
Speaker 2: big international sponsors, not just local guys throwing some dollars
Speaker 2: in there. You know what I mean. When it's a
Speaker 2: whole different it's a whole different story than what we're
Speaker 2: used to talking about with football recruits and regular role
Speaker 2: basketball recruits. Right, It's it's a completely different deal where
Speaker 2: these football you know, we're looking to local car dealers
Speaker 2: and we're looking to local businesses and locally based businesses.
Speaker 2: He'll fund these these nil consortiums to help get dollars
Speaker 2: to these players and have him do things. Somebody like
Speaker 2: aj he's in the national team, he's gotten national dollars
Speaker 2: coming and saying, hey, when you go there, we want
Speaker 2: to be part of you, We want to be part
Speaker 2: of you in the future. So so that everybody thinks
Speaker 2: that Ryan Smith just pooning up a bunch a bunch
Speaker 2: of dollars, and he had a lot, his influence was
Speaker 2: definitely there. I think the Danny's influence is definitely there.
Speaker 2: But I think people are way overstating his financial interest
Speaker 2: in all of this because there are plenty of people
Speaker 2: willing to step up to the plate and help with
Speaker 2: the dollars to make things balance for AJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, b Yu, I was told by somebody you would
Speaker 3: know has currently has nine seven figure donors. And so
Speaker 3: it's not just Ryan, it's not just Danny. It's a
Speaker 3: lot of people willing to step up in that collective.
Speaker 1: But here's where I want to go blame next before
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna do some football.
Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts on, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: the Bowl game and everything going on with the football team.
Speaker 3: But after AJ signed, I just did you know a
Speaker 3: quick scan of the top college coaching staffs and the country,
Speaker 3: And it's not hyperbolic to say none of the staffs
Speaker 3: are built like Kevin's.
Speaker 1: None of the staffs are built.
Speaker 3: Like BYUS NBX NBA guy is your head coach for
Speaker 3: a decade, two former G League coaches, as you referenced
Speaker 3: strength and conditioning, nutrition, she was with the Suns, and
Speaker 3: it's it feels like, intentionally or not BYU saw around
Speaker 3: corners and built a pro staff for a sport that's
Speaker 3: moving to a pro model.
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Kevin's got to prove he's gotta coach.
Speaker 1: He can coach.
Speaker 3: Now there's a little little pressure on our guy, Kevin Young.
Speaker 3: He's gotta you know, he's got to prove he can coach.
Speaker 3: And we'll see how that goes because he's gonna have
Speaker 3: a grip of talent. But do you feel like this
Speaker 3: could be the beginning of a genuine stretch of some
Speaker 3: really exciting things for BYU hoops based off the way
Speaker 3: that staff is built.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, You're you're onto something for first Spenser, because
Speaker 2: I talked to Kevin Young early. I had a lunch
Speaker 2: with him before, you know, just right after he came,
Speaker 2: and he talked about his vision, and he said, with
Speaker 2: the way college basketball is going with NIL and all
Speaker 2: of that, college basketball is going to become an analytics
Speaker 2: and a business game, just like the NBA. And so
Speaker 2: I felt like is what he said. I felt like
Speaker 2: I needed to bring in an NBA stat you know,
Speaker 2: I need to hire a general manager that has front
Speaker 2: office experience that can help us navigate NIL to value
Speaker 2: what players are worth, to help match NIL deals with
Speaker 2: player talent level, to be able to speak that language
Speaker 2: because this is where basketball is going, and he took
Speaker 2: the job I think knowing that that's where college basketball
Speaker 2: was going, but because of it, I think BI us
Speaker 2: way ahead of the curve, way ahead of the curve
Speaker 2: with everybody else. And then they have all of these
Speaker 2: contacts with players in the NBA that have worked with
Speaker 2: all these folks that have helped them develop. So now
Speaker 2: you're a young potential first round draft pick and you're
Speaker 2: talking to different colleges and b what you sit you
Speaker 2: down with people that say, hey, listen, I worked with
Speaker 2: this person and this person and this person and they
Speaker 2: were drafted here and here and here, and they've been
Speaker 2: an All star in the NBA. We've worked with them
Speaker 2: in the offseason. These are the things we do for them.
Speaker 2: You remind us of this guy that we coached, and
Speaker 2: we think we can get your skill set into the
Speaker 2: same place that his is, and this is what he's
Speaker 2: done in the NBA. All of a sudden, you're going, wait,
Speaker 2: nobody else is talking to me like this, Like I
Speaker 2: actually believe these guys, Like I've heard Kevin use the
Speaker 2: word this isn't a hypothetical. My staff have coached a
Speaker 2: bunch of NBA All Stars and developed a bunch of
Speaker 2: NBA All Stars. We know what the talent and the
Speaker 2: skill set looks like to get there. We know what
Speaker 2: has to be done to advance them and get them
Speaker 2: to the upper rachelon in the NBA. And we can
Speaker 2: do that with the right players here in college basketball.
Speaker 2: So recruiting has just been on a rocket shit advance
Speaker 2: right now. The thing is they can develop these guys.
Speaker 2: They can develop the skill sets. I actually don't doubt
Speaker 2: that at all because they've done it. Now, can this
Speaker 2: staff coach in big games in the Big twelve? You
Speaker 2: would think with all their experience, you know, add a
Speaker 2: bunch of international sprints at the Gola Olympic coach on
Speaker 2: the staff, they've got you name it, they've got it.
Speaker 2: But can they come together as a staff and then
Speaker 2: they put all these talented players out on the floor
Speaker 2: and have them mesh and play with a style that
Speaker 2: fits the Big twelve in college basketball? Very physical this
Speaker 2: league is, and ken they win a bunch of games.
Speaker 2: We know they can talent. They can they can they
Speaker 2: can get talent and they can bring it here. And
Speaker 2: here's the crazy thing, Spencer, if they can win. So
Speaker 2: before all of this, you know, before the signees and
Speaker 2: all of the news, they were picked down in the
Speaker 2: middle of the pack in this league. If they co
Speaker 2: finish in the top three in this league this year,
Speaker 2: Bennett he like, I don't know how you open up
Speaker 2: the recruiting more than it is, but but I think
Speaker 2: it perpetuates it and now they can kind of go
Speaker 2: out and get whoever they want. And Kevin understands that.
Speaker 2: I've had a long talk with him about this. It's like,
Speaker 2: I'll talk with him here in another two hours. We'll
Speaker 2: going to meet with him at five thirty to get
Speaker 2: ready for the game tonight. But he understands that for
Speaker 2: BYU to be good in the long term, they not
Speaker 2: only have to get the one and dons that fit
Speaker 2: the model for BYU and fit the culture, but they
Speaker 2: have to have a core of guys like the down
Speaker 2: Halls and the Richie Saunders and those prototypical BYU guys
Speaker 2: that will stay around for three and four years and
Speaker 2: be the core and be the guys that take the
Speaker 2: young talented guys under the wing and help them develop
Speaker 2: and help them survive for the year they're here. He
Speaker 2: knows he can't do the Kentucky model that we were
Speaker 2: all saying, you remember, Spencer, Like, how do these guys
Speaker 2: not win a national championship? Every year? They have like
Speaker 2: four first round draft picks and they don't win. He
Speaker 2: knows that that model doesn't win. He wants one or
Speaker 2: two of those a year, and he wants a core
Speaker 2: of really real high level guys like a Richie Saunders
Speaker 2: and like those guys to be the core and the
Speaker 2: long standing folks that are there. And he feels like
Speaker 2: that mix is almost like the mix that Mark Few
Speaker 2: has had up at Gonzaga, where he gets one or
Speaker 2: two high, high level draft picks and then the best
Speaker 2: regional players in the Northwest to come and fit in,
Speaker 2: and then he's final four after final four. That's the
Speaker 2: vision I think Kevin sees. I think winning would help
Speaker 2: help a lot to get all those other kids, and
Speaker 2: then one or two of these guys the year and
Speaker 2: you're right up there competing in final fours. And that's
Speaker 2: the vision. I believe in it right now. We'll see
Speaker 2: how it goes.
Speaker 3: All right, Blaine, It's do a little football here and
Speaker 3: before we get over to BYU. Since you and I
Speaker 3: last spoke, your former college teammate and I believe college roommate,
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham has announced that he's coming back to coach
Speaker 3: Utah football for the twenty first season. He has a
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator, a new wide receivers coach, and a
Speaker 3: new running backs coach, all with BYU ties. It's just
Speaker 3: so amazing how this rivalry works with Utah guys on
Speaker 3: BYU's coaching staff and BYU guys on UTA's coaching staff.
Speaker 3: But what's the Blaine father take on the happenings with
Speaker 3: the coaching staff up here in Salt Lake.
Speaker 2: Well, first off, if you and I talked about it
Speaker 2: when we talked last time, and I think between us
Speaker 2: we decided that we thought Kyle would come back.
Speaker 1: Yep, and we were right.
Speaker 2: And the reason we were right is because we know
Speaker 2: how competitive Kyle is, right, and I love that, and
Speaker 2: then that's why he's been so successful. And I just
Speaker 2: had a hunch, and I think you had the same
Speaker 2: hunch that there's no way he's going to walk out
Speaker 2: on a five win season. He's got to come back
Speaker 2: and rerun it, and he's gonna make major changes. And
Speaker 2: I think that they have struggled so much offensively I
Speaker 2: think bringing Jason in is a brilliant move. And Jason
Speaker 2: went in down there to New Mexico. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think everybody knows what he did down there. That's the
Speaker 2: place that has not been good for a long time offensively,
Speaker 2: and with Devin Dampier, who's bringing up there, they end
Speaker 2: up number four in the country in total office. They
Speaker 2: were four hundred and eighty plus yards of game last
Speaker 2: year Spencer and a place that has not been good,
Speaker 2: like just overnight. And I think it helps that he's
Speaker 2: bringing Dampier with him because he's like the true prototypical
Speaker 2: you know, five ten, two hundred pounds physical, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: run it, I'm gonna throw it. You don't know what
Speaker 2: I'm going to do. We're gonna spread you out, We're
Speaker 2: gonna run urpo and you're gonna have a heck of
Speaker 2: a tar stopping it because we're gonna read it on
Speaker 2: the fly. No matter what you do defensively is gonna
Speaker 2: be wrong. And this is a guy that threw for
Speaker 2: almost our ran frolmost twelve hundred yards and nineteen touchdowns
Speaker 2: and threw for twenty eight hundred yards and the next
Speaker 2: about five and six record that's because they were just
Speaker 2: absolutely awful on defense, so they got no help on defense,
Speaker 2: and they produce those kinds of numbers. So I think
Speaker 2: what Kyle's doing is gonna lead to a winning record
Speaker 2: and then being competitive and it's the top of the
Speaker 2: league again next year. Because we always know they're gonna
Speaker 2: be great on defense. So I thinks the moves he's
Speaker 2: made are gonna really really help. I could see him
Speaker 2: coming back competing for a title next week, and then
Speaker 2: finally stepping down and going there. I did not want
Speaker 2: to leave on a bad note. I'm gonna hand it
Speaker 2: over to Morgan now after they have success. I think
Speaker 2: he's pulling the right strings to try to make that happen. Now,
Speaker 2: they they got to stay healthy. They were not healthy
Speaker 2: this last year. I mean all of that plays into it,
Speaker 2: but I think he's setting himself up to come and
Speaker 2: make one more run. It will be successful.
Speaker 3: Would be if I didn't ask you about someone you
Speaker 3: know really well in Bronco Mendenhall taking the job at
Speaker 3: Utah State. You know, he was asked to do a
Speaker 3: bit of a cleanup job at BUYU, which he did.
Speaker 3: He was asked to do a bit of a cleanup
Speaker 3: job at Virginia, which he did and wasn't at New
Speaker 3: Mexico very long, but by all accounts did a pretty.
Speaker 1: Solid job there.
Speaker 3: I for one, was a little taken back blamee that
Speaker 3: Bronco decided to head up to Logan.
Speaker 1: What's the blame Valer take on this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. Bronco loves a project right. And here's
Speaker 2: the interesting thing. He stayed at Buyu as long as
Speaker 2: he state anywhere. I think he loves the idea of
Speaker 2: coming in and making what's wrong right. The first thing
Speaker 2: he does is he brings an unbelievable level of accountability
Speaker 2: and disciplineal program right, and he turns it around. If
Speaker 2: they've been losing, he'll take the pieces that they have,
Speaker 2: he'll get new pieces, and they'll immediately be better because
Speaker 2: they'll be immediately be way more effective at what they're
Speaker 2: supposed to do because they'll be disciplined and they will
Speaker 2: execute on both the ball and then win more games.
Speaker 2: The problem for Bronco is I think that he comes
Speaker 2: and he does that, he turns around and they get
Speaker 2: to a level where they're winning consistently. You know, b
Speaker 2: Uyu going to bowl games, winning televen games and I
Speaker 2: think he gets bored, I mean, needs another project, and
Speaker 2: so I think that's why he took the New Mexico job.
Speaker 2: And that was a place that he coached before. But
Speaker 2: he saw that as like, this is the biggest project ever.
Speaker 2: Let me take it. And five and six at New
Speaker 2: Mexico is almost heroic in recent years, you know, to
Speaker 2: take them from five and six. But I think he
Speaker 2: looked at Utah State and I think he felt like
Speaker 2: that's a job where traditionally you can win with the
Speaker 2: right kids. I know how to use I know how
Speaker 2: to recruit the guys them to take there, know how
Speaker 2: to recruit the state of Utah and the Inner Mountain West.
Speaker 2: I know what a formula is to win there. We
Speaker 2: can turn that thing around quickly, way quicker than we
Speaker 2: could maybe at New Mexico and go out and compete
Speaker 2: for a championship in that league, which I'm not sure
Speaker 2: he could ever do it New Mexico and I can
Speaker 2: leave my mark. I think that sites him and I
Speaker 2: think he can do it like we watched him do
Speaker 2: it before. Now will he be there for the next
Speaker 2: ten years as the guy I don't think he will.
Speaker 2: I think he'll turn it around and then I don't know,
Speaker 2: four or five years, he might get bored and then
Speaker 2: go do something else, or maybe you retire again. I
Speaker 2: don't know. But if you're Utah State, you'd take that,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you take the rebuilding, get him on the right
Speaker 2: footing and hand it up to somebody else. And yeah,
Speaker 2: he's one of the best in the country at doing
Speaker 2: that for sure.
Speaker 3: All Right, before we get to the Alimo Bowl, I
Speaker 3: just wonder whether sentiment is down there, because I mean, look,
Speaker 3: there's an argument to be made that BYU's resume and
Speaker 3: the unfortunate part is you lose to your final three,
Speaker 3: you just lose it the wrong time of year.
Speaker 1: But you compare it.
Speaker 3: To SMUs and we could get into the weeds about
Speaker 3: whether or not BYU should be in the Alamo Bowl.
Speaker 3: But the unfortunate part is they do lose two of
Speaker 3: three down the stretch after putting themselves in the position
Speaker 3: to win the Big Twelve as the favorite. So before
Speaker 3: we get to the Alimo Bowl, which I think is
Speaker 3: going to be really really fun, what's the sentiment what's
Speaker 3: the feel down there about the way BYU football ended
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 2: Everybody inside the program is really disappointed. Because they felt
Speaker 2: like they were going to be in the top three
Speaker 2: in the league start the league, and we were all
Speaker 2: including me, including me, I'm an ad minute, we're going, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, finish in the top six or seven,
Speaker 2: we'd be thrilled, like that would be a big jump forward.
Speaker 2: And so it really is remarkable what they did. And
Speaker 2: so I think it's stung for a bit, and then
Speaker 2: they look back and said, Okay, some things happened down
Speaker 2: the stretch that causes problems. Our quarterback was really banged
Speaker 2: up from the Utah game, from the first quarter of
Speaker 2: the Utah game on until that last game, and we
Speaker 2: got to be grateful for where we went and now
Speaker 2: we need to try to step it up and do
Speaker 2: even better. But first things first, let's go win this
Speaker 2: bowl game. And it's a really quality opponent and the
Speaker 2: back bowl outside of the college football playoff with a
Speaker 2: ton of eyes on it because you got Dion and
Speaker 2: shdur and you got Travis, you got the whole game coming,
Speaker 2: and Dean says they're all going to play. And so
Speaker 2: now I think there's some energy back around it. Think
Speaker 2: I think for a little while there is a little
Speaker 2: bit of man, we just didn't finish this thing off
Speaker 2: and had an opportunity to do something magical and menifall.
Speaker 2: But I feel I've been to practiced a couple times
Speaker 2: this last week. I feel like the energy's back there
Speaker 2: and they're really wrapping their heads around who they're playing
Speaker 2: and the eyeballs it will be on it and they're
Speaker 2: excited about this Bowl game.
Speaker 3: Now, all right, before I set you loose, two part
Speaker 3: question here, any news on Chase Chase feels like to me,
Speaker 3: Chase Roberts feels like a pro. It feels like a
Speaker 3: guy that I don't know, drafted mid mid round or
Speaker 3: undrafted free agent or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if there's an update there.
Speaker 3: And then from my vantage point, doesn't seem like BYU
Speaker 3: has been harmed by the transfer portal very much and
Speaker 3: hasn't made a ton of additions either.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just this time of year.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, So give me your take on those two
Speaker 3: things blamed before I set you loose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when you look at the transfer portal,
Speaker 2: and remember the transfer portal's even compounded this year by
Speaker 2: having everybody having to get to one hundred and five
Speaker 2: man roster by next ball yep. And so there's a
Speaker 2: lot of folks in the transfer portal for every team,
Speaker 2: including a number of BYU, where they sit down with
Speaker 2: people and go listen, you're not in the three D
Speaker 2: next fall, and we're just telling you. If you make
Speaker 2: a miraculous improvement, you can compete. But we want to tell
Speaker 2: you where you are, and if you want to go
Speaker 2: to the trans report, we're gonna help you find a place.
Speaker 2: You know, you had several of those on the list, right,
Speaker 2: and it's a small list to begin with. They do
Speaker 2: have needs and they are talking. They signed an offensive
Speaker 2: lineman that they really like out of Southern Utah that
Speaker 2: I don't know how. He's just sprosiac. I can't even
Speaker 2: remember how you say it. But you know a three
Speaker 2: year started for Southern Utah like almost eight hundred snaps
Speaker 2: as an offensive lineman and has never given up a
Speaker 2: sack in three years of starting and recruited by cal
Speaker 2: and Stanford turned down cal and took Vyu. I think
Speaker 2: he's a really really nice addition. So they don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of room to add guys with the one
Speaker 2: oh five, so they have to be really really selective.
Speaker 2: They take Carson Ryan Ucla, Utah, and those are really
Speaker 2: the only few right now. I know they're in active
Speaker 2: conversations with a couple of defensive tackles. I know that
Speaker 2: they're looking for a running back. They feel like they're
Speaker 2: finite quarterback. They're going to go try to get a freshman,
Speaker 2: and so they don't have a ton of needs right now,
Speaker 2: but they're trying to address the ones that they do have.
Speaker 2: A couple of offensive linemen, a couple of defensive tackles,
Speaker 2: and maybe a running back is what they're looking for now.
Speaker 2: Some unbelievable talent is out there and reaches out, You're
Speaker 2: always going to consider that. But those are the needs
Speaker 2: right now, and they're just not as big as they
Speaker 2: have been in the past. Reviewing she's had a lot
Speaker 2: of youngins to play the last this last year. And
Speaker 2: then about Chase, I have it like I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about Kyle that I do
Speaker 2: about Chase right now. Yeah, I feel like Chase is
Speaker 2: going to run it back. I think I think he's
Speaker 2: gonna you know, and I think a lot, you know,
Speaker 2: if he goes out and has just a crazy ballout
Speaker 2: game in this Bowl game and and what the NFL
Speaker 2: scouts are saying, is you know, I'll wait a minute,
Speaker 2: which I'm second thought, maybe we'll take you in the
Speaker 2: third round. That could change. That's why I'm not saying
Speaker 2: absolutely is coming back. But he's in a position where
Speaker 2: he's not quite as old as everybody thinks. He's not
Speaker 2: twenty five. I think he's gonna turn twenty four. And
Speaker 2: with Darius gone next Chase has a chance for them
Speaker 2: to be the guy. And I think if Aaron and
Speaker 2: those guys are re recruiting, like I think, he's the
Speaker 2: most important guy in under recruit right now, on an
Speaker 2: entire roster, and not to go for the transfer porta,
Speaker 2: but to come back because you could say to him, listen,
Speaker 2: come back and catch seventy five balls and have a
Speaker 2: thousand yards receiving and you have the body to be
Speaker 2: in the NFL, and you have the numbers to support it,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna give you a really nice nil deal.
Speaker 2: And you know, the NFL is a long shot for anybody,
Speaker 2: but if a lot less of a long shot, if
Speaker 2: we can get you drafted in the first three rounds,
Speaker 2: come back and catch seventy plus, we're gonna target you
Speaker 2: ten to twelve times a game. We're gonna put a
Speaker 2: good NL deal together and come back and do it.
Speaker 2: I think that would be good for Yu, and I
Speaker 2: think that would be good for Chase, and that's what
Speaker 2: I would like to see. I think maybe those conversations
Speaker 2: are going on. I don't have definitive news, but I
Speaker 2: had this gut feel like I did about Kyle, that
Speaker 2: Chase may come back and run it back.
Speaker 3: Well, that would be good news. He's a hell of
Speaker 3: a player. Blaine, thanks for the time, man. We'll set
Speaker 3: you loose. Happy holidays to you and the fan. Be
Speaker 3: well with y'all too, Okay, Thanks
Speaker 2: Panter, and talk to you somebody.