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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, Fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we

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<v Speaker 2>think when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Are get off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids are playing or trail off your countures are.

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<v Speaker 3>Screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 2>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's nick coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>Alright, let's get it started here on a very very

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<v Speaker 2>cold Thursday afternoon, sun's out, little deceiving. Usually when the

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<v Speaker 2>sun is out, it does add a little. It probably

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<v Speaker 2>makes you not feel as cold if it's the same temperature,

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<v Speaker 2>but like gloomy and dark. But man, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>it is freezing outside. So I'm very I'm very happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be in a nice, warm and cozy studio here

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<v Speaker 2>at our Louisville four Street Live Studios. In fact, you

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<v Speaker 2>hear that noise? Can you? Can you hear that? Austin?

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<v Speaker 2>That noise? Is it coming throughly? Need probably to take

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<v Speaker 2>the jacket off at some point because whenever I'm moving around,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's just excess background noise, and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>need that. That's not professional, and we're we do things

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<v Speaker 2>very professional around here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so cold outside that you're wearing a jacket inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I don't have any interest in taking it off,

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<v Speaker 2>but for the sake of the show, and because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>such professional and I won't sacrifice sound quality, I probably will.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll lose the coat and I should be good because

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually pretty toasty in here. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe all of it depending upon if the and so

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<v Speaker 2>far we haven't had an issue. And you may not

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<v Speaker 2>know about this because this is the first time we've

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<v Speaker 2>really experienced the winter weather when we're working together. But

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<v Speaker 2>the heat in the studios and really the ac as well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all like programmed within a cloud. Like people who don't,

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<v Speaker 2>who don't even in this state, have control over the

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not like they're in here messing with this,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it's it's controlled through like corporate and you

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<v Speaker 2>can I'm sure I know there's people here that can

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<v Speaker 2>mess with it. But like if I was to go

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<v Speaker 2>try to adjust thermistat in the studio, it would tell

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<v Speaker 2>me to like contact the master controller. So what happens

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<v Speaker 2>is whenever you do have heat on, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>said at like seventy two, which I think would be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty hot, the heat that comes off of everything in

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<v Speaker 2>this studio. How many TVs we got in here, No, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got there's literally probably six TVs in there. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there is six TVs in this studio right now. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got three huge monitors in front of me, and then

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<v Speaker 2>this massive board that looks like a spaceship in front

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<v Speaker 2>of me that puts off so much heat. So you

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<v Speaker 2>add the natural heat coming from everything in here along

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<v Speaker 2>with the heat within the you know, the thermostat. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to tell people like, look, it's gonna be eighty

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<v Speaker 2>degrees in here if you all mess with the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>So so far, so far, so good. But I know

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be one day where I come in and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a sauna in here. But right now, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still thawing out because it's just it's just that cold outside.

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<v Speaker 3>So during the summer it sucks because I know what

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking. Oh yeah, it's really already hot in there,

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<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't matter if you can change thermostat or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, now that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that, I feel I feel like when we first

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<v Speaker 3>got here to these new studios at four Street, that

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<v Speaker 3>you were allowed to like everyone, Oh yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 3>mess with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think that they just kind of put

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<v Speaker 3>a cabasho on that and made sure where is only

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<v Speaker 3>like one person because everybody has their different comfort levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Corporate, corporate, always trying to bring us down, right, course,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just just in the act, Corporate America. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we can't control our own our own temperature

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<v Speaker 2>because they got to, you know, they got to have

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<v Speaker 2>control over it. Yeah, anyway, so I can control you.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't. They can try, but actually they probably could.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just live in a world where I tell myself

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<v Speaker 2>I've got all the control, all the power, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I don't, but I'll just live as

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<v Speaker 2>if as if I do. Now speaking of that, I

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<v Speaker 2>have no control over this, and I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 2>not to really get into it because anytime I start

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it, I just probably end up going down

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<v Speaker 2>a path that maybe will get me in trouble. But

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<v Speaker 2>we will be very brief today. I mean I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say very brief, but we're out of here with like

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<v Speaker 2>four forty five or something. Yeah, that's what I was told. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so Shorter showed today, which is no fun for anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, out of my control, there's a basketball

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<v Speaker 2>game that's going to be played, and I believe this

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<v Speaker 2>will be like the last one we have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about a basketball game getting in the way of our

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon show. But you know, I don't know out of

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<v Speaker 2>my control above my pay grade. So I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>use the time they give me here on a Thursday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've got a lot to squeeze in in about

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and forty five minutes coming up here, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>coming up here, three forty five ish, three forty ish.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll bring in the one and only doctor Eric McElroy,

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<v Speaker 2>pro Ream Physical Therapy. Our weekly conversation with Doctor McElroy,

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a really needed conversation because if there's

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that can give us some type of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not answers or timetable, but like can explain what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on with these injuries with Louisville basketball. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>think of a year where Louisville basketball has had a

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<v Speaker 2>situation like this where you've, what seven games into the season,

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<v Speaker 2>eight games into the season, whatever it is, You're already

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<v Speaker 2>down two players for the year, and these were guys

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<v Speaker 2>that were going to play a lot. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't really know exactly. With Coren, you have

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<v Speaker 2>no clue what you really lost because he only played

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<v Speaker 2>in two games with Case and you knew what you

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<v Speaker 2>lost and then you really saw it play out on

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night. But I think if these were guys that

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<v Speaker 2>like had played here three or four years, it would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a little bit different. So but still, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this team is basically playing with seven scholarship players right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not ideal. So there's at least one guy

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<v Speaker 2>that could make a return, and that's Cater Treray and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that he will. I assume he will, but

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<v Speaker 2>you really just never know. It's something you just have

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<v Speaker 2>to wait and see. But also there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>other players that have been sitting out due to an

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<v Speaker 2>injury and the plan was for them not to play.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll just tell you, I don't think you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see Kobe Rodgers or Ali Khalifa end up playing

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<v Speaker 2>this season. But I guess my question to doctor mclroy

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<v Speaker 2>will be, you know, if in fact they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if in fact they wanted to do that and they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to make that happen, you know with the

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<v Speaker 2>recovery process, like is that is that doable? So again

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<v Speaker 2>there's no I mean, even if he does have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of information, because of course pro rehab is very

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<v Speaker 2>very much connected with U of L Athletics, there's certain

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<v Speaker 2>things they're not going to tell us, and they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not they're not supposed to and we're not

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<v Speaker 2>entitled every little bit of information. But when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the injury situation, I know doctor McElroy can at

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<v Speaker 2>least provide something that most people can as far as

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<v Speaker 2>just you know what's going on and what the realistic

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<v Speaker 2>timetable is for cater and then you know, I've always

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<v Speaker 2>felt like Ali Khalifa could could have played this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was always a plan to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. You may not need him as much. He

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<v Speaker 2>can get it, he can have surgery and he can

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<v Speaker 2>get in shape. But I think the surgery happened later

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<v Speaker 2>than most people realize to where I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 2>if that's possible. So anyways, we'll get to that coming

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<v Speaker 2>up here around a three forty and then at four

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<v Speaker 2>h five, will bring in our man, mister Kent Spencer

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<v Speaker 2>from w h AS eleven. We haven't talked to Ken

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<v Speaker 2>in a couple of weeks. We weren't able to do

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<v Speaker 2>it last week because of the holidays, So really looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to chatting with him a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say before we dive in here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of glad we have a shorter show today because

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a little distracted in the last hour or

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<v Speaker 2>so because I received a phone call and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>been something I can't share. I can't stop thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was offered a job that I'm having a

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<v Speaker 2>really tough time deciding what I want to do, what

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<v Speaker 2>yes and I don't. I probably should have given you

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<v Speaker 2>a heads up before I just started talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a job, like a role, something like a new role,

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<v Speaker 3>A job.

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<v Speaker 2>A new I mean, I mean, not a career change,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, a job that I'm gonna I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm gonna do, but I got to. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to call it about one forty five, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was somebody who is in charge of a very very

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<v Speaker 2>important role, very important position that they have, and they

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<v Speaker 2>called me to ask me if I would be willing

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<v Speaker 2>h to be the head coach of my son's four

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<v Speaker 2>year old basketball team. I was signed up to be

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant coach. Oh, and I guess the head coach

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<v Speaker 2>is backed has not you know, if you backed out,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not able to do it. But they've asked me

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm willing to be the head coach. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of responsibility there. Luckily it is. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a situation where I can do both. I can do

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<v Speaker 2>this job and the other. But then again, like schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I would have to have practice at

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<v Speaker 2>least at like seven o'clock whenever we have practice, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if parents want to bring their kids

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<v Speaker 2>out at seven o'clock for a practice on a weeknight.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you want to succeed, you do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, And the only thing that's making me really

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<v Speaker 2>struggle over a decision is that, like it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>that big of a deal because at four years old,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're not really playing basketball. I mean they are,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not Like I think this league is set

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<v Speaker 2>up to where like everybody gets to shoot like a

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<v Speaker 2>free throw and they run around. I mean it's very

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<v Speaker 2>early stages of like just introducing what basketball is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not like it would be a lot of work,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I don't know if I'd be able to

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<v Speaker 2>find the balance of like really coaching them up and

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe like making kids cry or you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to learn a lot about myself as a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've already learned a lot about myself when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to just being a dad of kids that play sports.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, my son's four years old, Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>played his first year of first season of flag football,

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<v Speaker 2>he played, uh, he's played t ball now for a

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<v Speaker 2>I always feel like I'm I'm misrepresenting when I say

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<v Speaker 2>So in all seriousness, I just I worry, like, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm a really competitive person. And it came out

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<v Speaker 2>briefly whenever I was at his flag football games this year.

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<v Speaker 2>They had one game where it was really close back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, and you know, the refs were incompetent. And

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<v Speaker 2>even though I had like the awareness of Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>but like I was yellow that the zebra's out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I'm thinking, what are you doing. You're gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>Well now you gotta watch it because you'll get ejected. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what if I showed up to their games on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday mornings in a suit like like I was like

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<v Speaker 2>I was Rick Fatino or something. So I have a

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<v Speaker 2>I said no, Like I would just feel bad like

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<v Speaker 2>saying no, like why not they need somebody. It'd be

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<v Speaker 2>different if I was applying for it. In gunning for

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<v Speaker 2>the job. It was a phone call because they knew

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<v Speaker 2>that I was on the list of somebody that was

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<v Speaker 2>willing to be an assistant coach if they wanted me,

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<v Speaker 2>if they needed me. And then the call today comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and they're like, you know, we need you to

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<v Speaker 3>So oh well, what what? What is this a program

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be inheriting? Are they a winning team?

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<v Speaker 2>Cause I would get with my I'm a program I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a program builder. Yeah, mean that's kind of more like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not you know, it's not necessarily about winning championships.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like Kenny Payne, he was broken when he

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's maybe that's what I'm walking into. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm what I'll be walking into is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of kids who were playing basketball for the first time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and it really can I mean, God bless the kids

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<v Speaker 2>or the parents or the parents and coaches. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the coach is who are also parents that have

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen coach my kids baseball team, my kids

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<v Speaker 2>flag football team. Because in all honesty, I love all

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<v Speaker 2>and their parents that that Moose has played sports with,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, I kind of know what it's

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<v Speaker 2>like to be a you know, a team dad, team mom,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. Me and my wife. Uh, but really,

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<v Speaker 2>the head coaches the biggest part of their gig is babysitting,

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<v Speaker 2>like just trying to keep the kids from getting distracted,

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<v Speaker 2>because we're talking about four and five year olds. So

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<v Speaker 2>I probably, well, I don't know. I had to tell

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<v Speaker 2>certain days, then you know, I may not be able to,

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<v Speaker 2>uh to make it work. That's a commitment. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>is a commitment, and I don't want to let them down,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't I'm not gonna do it half assed,

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<v Speaker 2>right like I'm gonna, I'm gonna if I'm if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna decide to do it. You know, we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be winners, and we're gonna work hard and we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have fun. And uh, you know, I'll probably call

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<v Speaker 2>him back after the show today and say I've given

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, talk to your agent, you see, if you can

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<v Speaker 3>get up first of all, get a no trade clause

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<v Speaker 3>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So what if I what if I went to Christy

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<v Speaker 2>are are higher up here, our boss, yeah, and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can you would you mind putting something in writing. I

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<v Speaker 2>just need to make sure you guys are are cool

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<v Speaker 2>with me taking a secondary job while still working here,

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<v Speaker 2>because in fact, that is part of the agreement here.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was ever going to get work outside of

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<v Speaker 2>of iHeart that is you know in in I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's mostly just in like broadcasting stuff. Uh, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, I think actually don't think it is

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<v Speaker 2>anything else. If you have any other like employer, they

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<v Speaker 2>need to just be aware of it and may have

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<v Speaker 2>to like sign off on something. So what if I

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<v Speaker 2>went there. I was like, Hey, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>stress you out because I know, like you think i'm

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<v Speaker 2>the best, but I think I'm gonna take a secondary job.

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<v Speaker 2>It won't it won't distract, and she'd probably think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about, Like maybe you're more money,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can't do this, and I'm like, well, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my kids four year old basketball team. She'd probably

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<v Speaker 2>laugh for a minute and then tell me to get

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of her office. That's that's probably what

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<v Speaker 2>what would happen. So anyways, picking up picking up more gigs.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're when you're coaching, well, it seems nowadays like

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<v Speaker 3>when you're like when you're a coach at any other level,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how they have like the the iPads on

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<v Speaker 3>the sideline. Oh, whenever you got to go sit down,

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<v Speaker 3>go look at what you did when you're coaching kids,

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<v Speaker 3>or you think the punishment is you don't get an

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<v Speaker 3>iPad on the sideline. Now you just kind of take

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I think the the threat and I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>call it that, but it's kind of what it was

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to trying to get the kids. Because

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<v Speaker 2>there were kids who were out there grabbing flags, playing well,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we get to like the fourth quarter and

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<v Speaker 2>they're just like, yeah, I think I want to go

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<v Speaker 2>lay down on the grass. I'm done playing, And like,

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<v Speaker 2>those are things you just deal with whenever you have

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<v Speaker 2>would do to try to get them motivated to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keep playing, is that you won't get your snack after

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<v Speaker 2>the game because every after every game you did something

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<v Speaker 2>from the concession stands like that. That was a good motivator.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll got to motivate anybody, motivate me. I'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out some way I can can maybe motivate motivate

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<v Speaker 2>these young kids. But anyways, I wanted to start with

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<v Speaker 2>basketball today because I really feel like it's been an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute roller coaster so far for fans this season. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about it, I would I would. I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume you would agree because you had such a

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<v Speaker 2>high going into the Tennessee game, right it's the new era.

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<v Speaker 2>You've already started. Want to know, you knew you had

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<v Speaker 2>a big test. I thought they did a great job

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<v Speaker 2>promoting the white out, That crowd was great. They really

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<v Speaker 2>just never really there was never a big moment for

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<v Speaker 2>them to get into it. So it was such a

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<v Speaker 2>high and then you really got let down because it

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<v Speaker 2>was tough to see your first test a team that

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<v Speaker 2>you really hadn't seen challenged at all, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>came out and they got worked. Which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee's probably going to be the number one team in

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<v Speaker 2>the country given the way the acc SEC Challenge played out,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not a bad loss. But at that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>you went from being super excited like here we go,

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<v Speaker 2>we're kind of back, and then you're like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>may not be good. And then you play a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of a couple of a couple of dud teams that

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<v Speaker 2>you just know you're going to beat, and you covered.

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<v Speaker 2>You beat them by a lot. I think you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>cover against Winthrop, but you did against beller Man, And

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<v Speaker 2>we just knew going in that you weren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>learn a whole lot, right, Like whatever happened in those

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<v Speaker 2>games wasn't going to tell you how much better you

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<v Speaker 2>got from the Tennessee beat down, So the test was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be okay. When you get to the Bahamas

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<v Speaker 2>and you start to play really competitive games against good

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the Battle for Atlantis, where do you stand?

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<v Speaker 2>And then sure enough you came out and you beat

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of Indiana, and then you turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and won a close overtime game and with Chucky Hepburn

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<v Speaker 2>really just taken over to get the win against West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was ecstatic to see this team win that

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<v Speaker 2>game where it wasn't played at the way they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it to be played. They got comfortable in the half

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<v Speaker 2>court and were able to grind it out and beat

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia. And even though they lost to Oklahoma, I

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<v Speaker 2>was still feeling very good about this team. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you find out Cason Pryor's injury is significant, he's out

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<v Speaker 2>for the year. Korn Johnson, he's not going to return

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<v Speaker 2>at all, and then you get your butts kicked by

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<v Speaker 2>Old Miss to where like it's just been a complete

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<v Speaker 2>roller coaster so far, and I uh, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what happens moving forward. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we should really tone you know, tone down expectations. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think saying the tournament is still something you could

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<v Speaker 2>do is crazy, but I do understand if you're someone

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<v Speaker 2>that just wants to, I guess, prepare for the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope for the best. You're just thinking, Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to assume we're not a tournament team and if they

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<v Speaker 2>get there, then great. And if that's your mindset, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. But if you're somebody that just thinks you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this team is doomed and they're gonna lose to everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you may be right, but I don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that that. I don't. I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen enough to know or even feel like that would

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<v Speaker 2>be the likely outcome for this team. So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough. Man. Everything about Tuesday sucked just because the

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<v Speaker 2>bad news you got the two days prior to that

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<v Speaker 2>with Casein and of course coryn and then you could

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<v Speaker 2>just tell, man, they weren't making shots, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>I don't they did quit at all. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>kept fighting, and they kept shooting a bunch of shots

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<v Speaker 2>to try to get him to fall, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't work out and you got you got beat

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<v Speaker 2>pretty bad. So at least you've got Duke coming up next, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and like that's gonna like it? And let me I

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<v Speaker 2>will give you some positive news here. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be funny. I'm being being serious. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you guys would view this as a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of good news or not, but I do. Duke's coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and they are not coming off of a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Duke will likely win on Sunday, and I hope it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get ugly. But for what it's worth, and it

418
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<v Speaker 2>may not be much, I would rather have Duke coming

419
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<v Speaker 2>in off of a win rather than coming off of

420
00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:43.319
<v Speaker 2>a losscause then they'll be hungry, then they'll have something

421
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<v Speaker 2>to prove. I mean, maybe Louisville sneaks up on this

422
00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Duke team and they end up, you know, coming out

423
00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.480
<v Speaker 2>flat meeting Duke, and Louisville can knock down some shots.

424
00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, I have no clue what we we're

425
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<v Speaker 2>gonna get on Sunday. But given the most recent result

426
00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.519
<v Speaker 2>and the first time we saw this team without Case

427
00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:05.759
<v Speaker 2>and Pryor's it's, you know, it's concerning to say the least.

428
00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Now that was their first chance to kind of see,

429
00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:10.759
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's try to do what we want to do,

430
00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:13.440
<v Speaker 2>knowing where this shorthanded, and see how it works out,

431
00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:17.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of like against Tennessee. If you remember they were trying.

432
00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, Tennessee was able to completely get them out

433
00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.319
<v Speaker 2>of what they wanted to do. And Louisville was didn't

434
00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:27.240
<v Speaker 2>have any answers. And when you got to the Bahamas,

435
00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.799
<v Speaker 2>when you played Oklahoma, same thing, and also West Virginia

436
00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.759
<v Speaker 2>is what I meant to say, But against West Virginia,

437
00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:34.039
<v Speaker 2>you were much more comfortable playing that style, right. You

438
00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.759
<v Speaker 2>let Chuckie Hupburn run the show. He was able to

439
00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:38.839
<v Speaker 2>really just kind of, you know, take over the game.

440
00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.400
<v Speaker 2>He was the best player on the floor. So maybe

441
00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.279
<v Speaker 2>we see on Sunday a competitive game more so than

442
00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:49.319
<v Speaker 2>people are expecting, and maybe, you know, maybe we see

443
00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:52.519
<v Speaker 2>a new wrinkle. Maybe Pat Kelsey has decided to really

444
00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:55.359
<v Speaker 2>adjust some things as far as what they're trying to

445
00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:59.640
<v Speaker 2>get into, because as we discussed yesterday, I'm not against

446
00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.839
<v Speaker 2>the city at all that he wants to run long term,

447
00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.599
<v Speaker 2>but I think with the lack of bodies like you

448
00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.920
<v Speaker 2>don't even have, you can't even really try to be

449
00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:10.880
<v Speaker 2>who you wanted to be because you don't have enough players.

450
00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Because if you're gonna do the same thing and you're

451
00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:14.519
<v Speaker 2>just playing a lot of these guys so much more

452
00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.559
<v Speaker 2>minutes because there's no there's no depth anymore. I mean,

453
00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:20.599
<v Speaker 2>that's not a good recipe for what you want to

454
00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:24.000
<v Speaker 2>do actually working out for you. So we'll see what

455
00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:28.279
<v Speaker 2>happens against Duke. But if you saw how bad the

456
00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:32.920
<v Speaker 2>ACC looked in the sec ACC Challenge, even without the

457
00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.279
<v Speaker 2>guys that are you know, that are injured, you should

458
00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.279
<v Speaker 2>still be able to get many wins in this league.

459
00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.039
<v Speaker 2>That is, I mean, you know, even worse than I thought.

460
00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:41.640
<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.

461
00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:44.920
<v Speaker 2>We'll also talk some football stuff. Because everybody seemingly is

462
00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.160
<v Speaker 2>hopping into the portal, I still haven't seen anybody from

463
00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Louisville yet that I'm like, oh man, this is gonna

464
00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:53.079
<v Speaker 2>kill us. On the Kentucky side, not exactly, they've lost

465
00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.160
<v Speaker 2>like all their good players, and I don't think Stoops

466
00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.839
<v Speaker 2>is going anywhere. But if he doesn't have a good

467
00:19:57.920 --> 00:19:59.640
<v Speaker 2>run here in the portal like at all, and there's

468
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<v Speaker 2>no moment me and him at all as far as

469
00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.599
<v Speaker 2>like what they did to improve the situation, maybe he

470
00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.440
<v Speaker 2>goes to Mitch Barnfhart and says, look, can we meet

471
00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:10.680
<v Speaker 2>in the middle. Will you buy me out? Like not

472
00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:13.400
<v Speaker 2>the full amount, because I doubt he does that because

473
00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.079
<v Speaker 2>who would. But if they're going to be terrible and

474
00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:19.480
<v Speaker 2>like there's nothing but negative, toxic noise about him being

475
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<v Speaker 2>the coach, and it's quite clear everybody wishes he wasn't

476
00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the coach. Maybe that is enough to where you say, okay,

477
00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm not walking for nothing, but like give me sixty

478
00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.079
<v Speaker 2>percent of the buyout. Who knows. What I do know

479
00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:31.279
<v Speaker 2>is we'll be back on the other side. So don't

480
00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:33.000
<v Speaker 2>go anywhere. It's cofee and company. Feel about Thortons right

481
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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

483
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day, a little.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Bit of change of plans here. We've got a late

485
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<v Speaker 2>scratch here for the show. Eric mclauray gonna join us tomorrow.

486
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<v Speaker 2>That works better with his schedule, which is okay because

487
00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:52.960
<v Speaker 2>two guests when we have a short show anyways, I mean,

488
00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:54.680
<v Speaker 2>that's not enough of me. And that's what you guys

489
00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.200
<v Speaker 2>are here for, right You want more of this. I

490
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<v Speaker 2>hope you can sense sarcasm to guest one show, you

491
00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.519
<v Speaker 2>guess one show in an hour and forty five minutes.

492
00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's I think there's one issue there. As

493
00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:06.759
<v Speaker 2>good as those guests are, that's not enough. That's not

494
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<v Speaker 2>enough me and that's again, I hope that's why you're here.

495
00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:11.519
<v Speaker 2>But if not, just you know, don't tell me that.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Let my ego. I just believe that you that you're

497
00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you know you're here because you just want nothing but

498
00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:18.759
<v Speaker 2>hot takes from the one and only Nick Coffee. That's me.

499
00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:20.799
<v Speaker 2>The name the other voice you hear the other name

500
00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:22.839
<v Speaker 2>here part of the show is Austin Montgomery. I just

501
00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:24.920
<v Speaker 2>took a bow. I hope you saw that, did you? Yeah?

502
00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it, but I believe you.

503
00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of leaning in my chair. I kind

504
00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:29.279
<v Speaker 3>of want to feed your ego a little bit more.

505
00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Because there's been a been some rumbling around the office

506
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<v Speaker 3>how people really liked your Jay Williams interview yesterday?

507
00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Really?

508
00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've had like two people come up and said, man,

509
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.599
<v Speaker 3>that was a good interview. How would I had at

510
00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:41.599
<v Speaker 3>least two or three people come up to me so

511
00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:44.839
<v Speaker 3>mentioned how how was Jay Williams? And it sounded like

512
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<v Speaker 3>it They asked, are Nick and him friends might as

513
00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:48.359
<v Speaker 3>well be?

514
00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we have talked since the interview and we

515
00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.880
<v Speaker 2>seem to be pretty friendly with one another. But yeah,

516
00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.000
<v Speaker 2>so I'm glad you said that, not because like you

517
00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.559
<v Speaker 2>know I wanted you to gas me up or anything

518
00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:00.960
<v Speaker 2>like that, but I I thought it went fine, Like

519
00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:03.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we did it. I thought it was a

520
00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:07.079
<v Speaker 2>good conversation. He was pretty much what I would have

521
00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:09.680
<v Speaker 2>would pretty much what I expected. I didn't I wasn't

522
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:13.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be contentious or anything like that. But the

523
00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:15.880
<v Speaker 2>amount of people who were like, wow, that was great,

524
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<v Speaker 2>really good job, and I'm like, well, thank you, but like, like,

525
00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like I did anything that I don't

526
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.559
<v Speaker 2>typically do. But I guess Jay Williams is a big

527
00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.680
<v Speaker 2>enough name, and I will say this, I kind of

528
00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:28.039
<v Speaker 2>forgot or maybe it just wasn't really on my radar

529
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<v Speaker 2>that for a long time, he was one of those

530
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<v Speaker 2>guys that, like, no matter what they were talking about,

531
00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:36.440
<v Speaker 2>if you turned on ESPN television, he was on TV.

532
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:38.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean he did the I mean he was on

533
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<v Speaker 2>Get Up for a long time. He shifted from college

534
00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:46.440
<v Speaker 2>basketball coverage to doing strictly NBA. So you know, we've

535
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<v Speaker 2>had other big guests on the show before, and he

536
00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.240
<v Speaker 2>certainly is a big name and got a lot of

537
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<v Speaker 2>people are familiar with. But you know, I guess that's

538
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<v Speaker 2>probably a big factors like that they assumed, Wow, that's

539
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<v Speaker 2>such a big get, and then you know I didn't bomb,

540
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<v Speaker 2>So maybe the bar is low as far as expectations like, hey,

541
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:06.079
<v Speaker 2>you did a good job, like you didn't you didn't

542
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:07.960
<v Speaker 2>suck at the interview. So well, thank you and thank

543
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<v Speaker 2>you all for for listening, and thank you to those

544
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:13.519
<v Speaker 2>who have provided some good feedback. And if you missed

545
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:15.720
<v Speaker 2>it yesterday, you can go check out go check out

546
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<v Speaker 2>the podcast. All right, So if you want to join

547
00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>us on the show, you can five O two five

548
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<v Speaker 2>on the LLEN and Federal Credit Union text line five

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<v Speaker 2>oh two six five three zero seven ninety. So just

552
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<v Speaker 2>some updates really quickly here. As far as the transfer

553
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.720
<v Speaker 2>portal for Louisville, Uh, there have been a couple of

554
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:35.799
<v Speaker 2>guys that hit the portal, and this is where it

555
00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:38.599
<v Speaker 2>just becomes uncomfortable because there's not anybody that has hit

556
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<v Speaker 2>the portal that I'm thinking, oh, hell yeah, get them

557
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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of here there, and that they don't belong,

558
00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>they stink. I want them out of Louisville today. But

559
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<v Speaker 2>there are certain guys where I'm like, okay, whatever, And

560
00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.759
<v Speaker 2>then there's certain there's other guys, like, for example, Kewan Brown,

561
00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:53.839
<v Speaker 2>the running back. I think he's really good, really talented.

562
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.759
<v Speaker 2>He'll end up, I think, having a lot of success

563
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>wherever he goes. Not sure what level it'll be, but

564
00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:01.240
<v Speaker 2>he's a good running back that I don't really want

565
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:04.039
<v Speaker 2>to see leave. But I totally understand why he is. Again,

566
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about two guys in front of him that

567
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe you're starting running backs to just about any school

568
00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>in the country next year, given the momentum they have

569
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:14.160
<v Speaker 2>coming off of a true freshman season, and they're both

570
00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:17.240
<v Speaker 2>playing together here at Louisville, so it makes total sense

571
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<v Speaker 2>that he's leading. But he's somebody that you know, I

572
00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.079
<v Speaker 2>really liked and would have loved to have seen him

573
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<v Speaker 2>stick around. But again, I'm not in any way bitter

574
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<v Speaker 2>about it, because I totally totally understand the other names.

575
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<v Speaker 2>Brady Allen, if you remember, he's the quarterback who transferred

576
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<v Speaker 2>in from Purdue with Jeff, was a really highly regarded

577
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.559
<v Speaker 2>quarterback out of high school, and it really has never

578
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.920
<v Speaker 2>never really worked out. He couldn't really crack the rotation

579
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<v Speaker 2>here at all. And I say rotation like they play

580
00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:44.599
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of quarterbacks. He really couldn't climb the depth chart.

581
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean Harrison Bailey coming in and being like a

582
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<v Speaker 2>journeyman that had played football for many years at different

583
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.119
<v Speaker 2>schools and could never latch. I mean, he had a

584
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<v Speaker 2>lot of talent coming in high school. Harrison was a

585
00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:58.640
<v Speaker 2>five star quarterback, but he was at Tennessee, then at

586
00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>UNLV and then end up at U of L. And

587
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<v Speaker 2>I think he walked on initially the fact that he

588
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:04.759
<v Speaker 2>was ahead of Brady Allen, and then even when Evan

589
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Conley was here last year, he was ahead of Brady Allen.

590
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:13.079
<v Speaker 2>It kind of like you knew going into this cycle,

591
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<v Speaker 2>right this end of the season where the portal opens up,

592
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 2>you knew one of the two was going to transfer,

593
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and that is either Brady Allen or Pierce Clarkson. And

594
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.839
<v Speaker 2>now we know Brady Allen is. Pierce Clarkson has not

595
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.519
<v Speaker 2>entered the portal. I don't suspect that he will leave,

596
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 2>but if he does, I mean I'm not gonna be surprised.

597
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<v Speaker 2>That's just where we are. And I've not heard that

598
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>he has been like super impressive in any way. But

599
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I've also not heard that like Oh yeah, this kid stinks.

600
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>He can't play. It's just you know, in practice in

601
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the reps that he gets and even when he's been

602
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 2>in the game at times, you know, it just doesn't

603
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:50.039
<v Speaker 2>really you know, there's not a whole lot there that

604
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 2>you can can judge one way or the other. Now,

605
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 2>we'll say one time he did get in the game

606
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<v Speaker 2>against one of these bums they played in the first

607
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>two weeks, whether it be Jacksonville State or Austin p

608
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and the communication in the headset wasn't working. So that

609
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:04.400
<v Speaker 2>was a factor in why it was kind of a

610
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<v Speaker 2>botched series for him out there. But I still see

611
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<v Speaker 2>people occasionally saying, really, we're going to go back to

612
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>the portal, why not hand it hand it over to

613
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<v Speaker 2>Pierce Clarkson, And I I just think those people are

614
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<v Speaker 2>living in the previous world and not understanding that, like,

615
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 2>that's just a risk you don't need to take, right, Like,

616
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<v Speaker 2>that's a risk that you don't have to take, just

617
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.039
<v Speaker 2>handing it off to a guy who hasn't proven anything

618
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<v Speaker 2>when you know you can go get quarterbacks in the portal.

619
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<v Speaker 2>It just it would be it would be irresponsible not

620
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<v Speaker 2>to go and hit the portal for a quarterback, and

621
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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to say, okay, well, Pierce is our starters,

622
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<v Speaker 2>so let's go get a quarterback who like isn't good

623
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<v Speaker 2>that's in the portal. Like, no, you're gonna go get

624
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<v Speaker 2>the best guy possible. And if Pierce doesn't like who

625
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.160
<v Speaker 2>you get and feels like he doesn't want to compete,

626
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>he has every right to leave, or if he wants

627
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>to stick around and say, Okay, look, I'm gonna work

628
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>my ass off, continue to get better, and you can

629
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 2>bring in whoever you want. I'm going to compete and

630
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go try to win the job. So

631
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, I I just know that if Pierce does transfer,

632
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and a disclaimer, I don't have a clue what he's

633
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 2>going to do. I don't even bring this up to

634
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 2>like insinuate that I think he's going to I'm just

635
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.839
<v Speaker 2>going to tell you, like any other player, anybody entering

636
00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the portal, for the most part, is not really a

637
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 2>big shock anymore because that's just where we are. But

638
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I can sense that if he does go to the portal, Pierce,

639
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>there'll be people acting like somebody screwed up and did

640
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 2>something wrong. And I just don't see that at all.

641
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I'm not going to run through the

642
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 2>entire list of players that have hit the portal. I mean,

643
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>we talked a lot about him yesterday and I'd say

644
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:34.839
<v Speaker 2>those are the two biggest names as of right now

645
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.799
<v Speaker 2>that have hit the portal since since we talked yesterday.

646
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Now on the Kentucky side, Dane Key, that news broke

647
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 2>yesterday that he hit the portal and he's leaving. And

648
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>then Barry and Brown earlier today within about an hour,

649
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>about an hour ago, he also announced that he's going

650
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>to enter the transfer portal. And these two guys, I

651
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:57.920
<v Speaker 2>think when it comes to talent, and I know some

652
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>will say, well, no, Barry and Brown, he drops the ball.

653
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 2>He's and you can tell yourself whatever you want. That

654
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 2>guy has ability and talent that I think any school

655
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.640
<v Speaker 2>would want him and they could find some use for him.

656
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's a guy that on special teams as

657
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 2>a return man, like you don't kick to him because

658
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 2>he'll make you pay for it. And he doesn't even

659
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 2>get kicked to that often in his last you know,

660
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>couple of seasons, but when he does, he tends to

661
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>make you pay for it. He's a special, special guy.

662
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to talent. Now, I have no clue

663
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 2>if the guy has like off the field issues or

664
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think he's been suspended or arrested,

665
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>but people act like he was. And I look, this

666
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 2>may just be Kentucky fans disappointed in him because he

667
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of money through NIL and had some

668
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.119
<v Speaker 2>drops and maybe didn't play well enough. Same thing with

669
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Dion Walker. But Vince Merrill was on KSR earlier this

670
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>week and made the comment about how they started prioritizing

671
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>talent and not necessarily prioritizing character as much as they

672
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>used to, and I'm paraphrasing. He said something close to that,

673
00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And Seal Brown was on with us a couple days

674
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>ag and I thought he made a really good point

675
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:05.319
<v Speaker 2>that if you're winning, nobody says that. Now maybe you

676
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 2>and I will say this. Even when Kentucky was in

677
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years, they were really underwhelming. In

678
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the second year of will Evis, they lost at home

679
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>to Vandy, and really, you know, that was one of

680
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>those years where they beat Louisville and they kind of

681
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>could disguise their underperforming season a little bit, right, Like

682
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>they go into the portal or they go into the

683
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>off season with a little momentum because they beat their

684
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>rival once again. They did the last two years, and

685
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Kentucky fans knew that they were taking slight

686
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>steps backwards in twenty twenty two, in twenty twenty three,

687
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 2>and then this year you took a massive step back

688
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>and we're an embarrassment. So, you know, it sounds like

689
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the issues with as far as like locker room culture,

690
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff has been a problem since the

691
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>downward slide started for them, but this year it kind

692
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 2>of really blew up. So my, you know, guys going

693
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>to the concession stand during a game like that's insane

694
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 2>as far as like where everybody's heads is collectively as

695
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>a pro. So what Ceel Brown said that I thought

696
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>was great is that, like, you know, that's a that's

697
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 2>a cop out, like if things are, if you're winning,

698
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.759
<v Speaker 2>then you probably don't even bring that up. You don't

699
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:11.319
<v Speaker 2>use that as an excuse as to why you've got

700
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 2>to go fix things. Because again, when it comes to

701
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 2>talent one, your roster was not a problem. Maybe on

702
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the old line you weren't good enough at times. Your

703
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 2>quarterback clearly wasn't as good as you needed him to

704
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>be but like you aren't. You didn't go one in

705
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 2>seven because you just don't have good players? So what

706
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.319
<v Speaker 2>did they? And they know that they haven't. There's enough

707
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.440
<v Speaker 2>awareness on the UK football staff, I suppose to where

708
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>they realize they can't just claim we don't have any

709
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 2>good players. They realize that even if they don't have

710
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.079
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia rosters or the Old Miss rosters, which they don't,

711
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 2>they still should have been way better than they were.

712
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>So they blame it on well, you know, these guys

713
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 2>were good players, but now we gotta you know, they

714
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 2>actually were bad. They were bad apples and we got

715
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 2>to go get good guys. And maybe they're maybe they're

716
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 2>telling the truth, but I do believe that like these guys,

717
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:00.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not like you know, it's almost to me it

718
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of sounds a little bit like Kenny Payinne, Like

719
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Payne acted as if he inherited guys that were

720
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 2>on parole that like you just never know, like they

721
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 2>might you know that they're just scumback people like you

722
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't know. It's broken. These guys are like and it

723
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>was such a nonsense. So I'm not saying that Mark

724
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Stoops is acting like these guys are the worst and

725
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>their criminals. But if you are looking at the Kentucky

726
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 2>football season in twenty twenty five and you and you

727
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>are of the belief that Barrian Brown is one of

728
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 2>these guys that was basically going to be told he

729
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>needed to leave anyway, you got bigger problems than you realize.

730
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Because if your coach can't make it work with a

731
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 2>guy that talented, that you're probably not going to be

732
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>able to get very often because he's that talented, Like

733
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>you got issues. So they did sign a decent class yesterday,

734
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 2>but that just doesn't matter like it used to. There's

735
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>still value there, but you can't sell to your fans

736
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>if you're Mark Stoops that we're we're gonna really coach

737
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>these guys up and when they're juniors, then we'll really

738
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 2>be rolling because I'm going to develop them. That That's

739
00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:59.359
<v Speaker 2>not how it works anymore. You can develop players, but

740
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 2>they got to play or they're gonna leave. They gotta

741
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>make money or they're gonna leave. And if you roll

742
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>out true freshman, because you know that's where you're these

743
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>are the guys you're rolling with next year. Good luck

744
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>competing when you have a loaded schedule once again. Now,

745
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.079
<v Speaker 2>dan Key was not somebody that I don't that that

746
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>that was a bad apple. As far as I know,

747
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>he's a he's a good locker room guy, good kid.

748
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's not a kid, he's girl man. But

749
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>him leaving and it makes total sense. But I just

750
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't really think about it until I saw just how

751
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>devastating it was for Kentucky fans. I mean, that's a

752
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>guy who from Lexington, his father played there. He's good,

753
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 2>he's been your leading receiver for three straight years, and

754
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 2>he's walking away. Kentucky fans know that he's probably making

755
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the right decision, Like you don't blame him at all,

756
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 2>But man, doesn't that really tell you how bad things are?

757
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Is that a local kid dad played there again, He's

758
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>he's probably gonna be remembered for a long time because

759
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>he was a big time recruit and he's good, and

760
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>he is just having to walk away from his hometown

761
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 2>program where he's a legacy player because he just can't

762
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>with you know, he can't realistically look in the mirror

763
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 2>and say, yeah, let's run it back. I want to

764
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>play in an offense that Mark Stoops is the head

765
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>coach for again, like he just doesn't make any sense.

766
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of feel like that was like such

767
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a devastating blow, as well as Stoops not doing his

768
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Coaches show last night to where I just can't imagine

769
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 2>him like I take him at his word. I think

770
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>him saying that, you know, I know some people don't

771
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>want me here, but I'm going back to work and

772
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're going to go get players and you know,

773
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of a almost like an I wouldn't say arrogant,

774
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>but I heard a little bit of his press conference

775
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 2>yesterday and it was essentially like, you know, people can

776
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>calm down, We're going to be a good football team again.

777
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well, okay, but based off what like

778
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't have any momentum right now. It's clearly it

779
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 2>would have you done for me lately. And the way

780
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Stoops was able to build and succeed, you know, for

781
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>the Kentucky standard, that's not where we are anymore. This

782
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>is a new world and he's clearly it obvious that

783
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't like this new stuff, like he doesn't like

784
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>the new aspects of college football coaching where you have

785
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>to raise money and you've got to manage egos and

786
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 2>personalities and balance the budget. That kind of stuff. You

787
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>got to re recruit players that are that you know,

788
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:16.639
<v Speaker 2>you didn't used to have to do that. You would

789
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>you transfers used to be somewhat of a surprise. Now

790
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 2>it's not that at all. You got to be babysitting

791
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>guys egos, maybe around the clock, because if you're not,

792
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>then they're gonna feel as if you don't appreciate them,

793
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and they know that they hit the portal, they're gonna

794
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 2>get the phone calls from other schools. So I just

795
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I still don't think there's a scenario where Stoops is

796
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 2>not the coach next year. But if you really strike

797
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.119
<v Speaker 2>out and like if he can't do anything as far

798
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>as roster management or maybe like coaching changes on his

799
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>staff and there's really nothing that he could sell that'll

800
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 2>that'll get fans at least believing five percent of what

801
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 2>he's saying as far as they're going to be better

802
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.199
<v Speaker 2>next year. Maybe it's just such a toxic situation where

803
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>he's so miserable that he does say, Okay, look I'm

804
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>not walking for nothing, but but give me an offer

805
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:02.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'll and I'll get the hell out of here

806
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>because I clearly overstayed my welcome, which, to be honest

807
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 2>with you, it would be kind of sad because he

808
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>did something at Kentucky that nobody ever did. He brought

809
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 2>them out of the bottom tier of power football for

810
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 2>a good run, and he's the most winningst coach they've

811
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>ever had. Like I never have ever believed that he's

812
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 2>done as much as sometimes they think that he has done.

813
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>But clearly for Kentucky, he's the best coach they've ever had,

814
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and he did things that nobody thought possible. So I

815
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, the scenario where it doesn't in ugly,

816
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>I think is if he really does bounce back in

817
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.159
<v Speaker 2>a major way and they're a lot better next year.

818
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 2>And I just don't think there's much evidence to tell

819
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you that that's gonna happen. So I kind of feel

820
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.719
<v Speaker 2>like it's going to be an ugly departure. And I

821
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 2>don't whose fault is that, though, I mean, it's his

822
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>fault for not getting it done. It's it's his fault

823
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 2>for falling off a cliff essentially as far as you know,

824
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>being able to do with that job needs you to do.

825
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 2>But it's Barnard's fault like Stoops had like a you know,

826
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what a standard buyout is, but

827
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.519
<v Speaker 2>like he had walking away from the amount of money

828
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 2>that he would be owed. It would be irresponsible for him,

829
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 2>as somebody who has children in a family, like who

830
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>was walking away from forty four million dollars guaranteed if

831
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 2>you if you know, if they fire you. So not

832
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that I'm losing sleep over it, but I just think

833
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna this has a much better likelihood of

834
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>ending ugly rather it be you know, this offseason or next.

835
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe he does get it turned around and

836
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 2>they're really good. I doubt it, but I mean, I

837
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just crazy. I don't I can't imagine two three

838
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>years ago, probably two years ago, it is probably the

839
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>best way to put it, that we would see the

840
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>most likely scenario for Stoops being that like he's just

841
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 2>sticking around, because who would walk away from that? And

842
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>yet all the fans want him gone and think he

843
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>stinks like that. You know, we're not that far removed

844
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>from somebody at the Herald Leader writing an article that

845
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the statue for Mark Stoops should have already been built.

846
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're not that far removed from that being

847
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 2>how Mark Stoops was talked about. Now it is seemingly

848
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 2>a dumpster fire according to their fans, and they don't

849
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>seem to have much belief that like it's going to

850
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 2>get better. They just they want have gone. And you know,

851
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I get it, but Alby stays because I you know,

852
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd like for Kentucky to have to sit with him

853
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 2>being a bad coach for a while so we can

854
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>start collecting more Governor's Cup wins and extend this this

855
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 2>league that we already have. Now, all right, quick Break,

856
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side. Man. Only two

857
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>ACC teams won games in the ACC SEC Challenge. BARF, barf.

858
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 2>That's not good.

859
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Now.

860
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Again, as I've said throughout, I'm choosing in the moment

861
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>this season to look at that as a positive for

862
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Louisville because it means that they could potentially, even though

863
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>they're shorthanded, win more games than they typically would in

864
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:58.599
<v Speaker 2>this league. But we shall see, quick Break don't go anywhere.

865
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.679
<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company, and we are about Thorton's right

866
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I'm going to have

867
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 2>to start making the first segment of the show fifteen

868
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 2>minutes because if I don't, it just makes it to

869
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 2>where we've got very few, very little time, I should

870
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 2>say in the second and third segment. I mean, we've

871
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:21.159
<v Speaker 2>made some progress with clock management, but when you've got

872
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>seven minute commercial breaks, it makes a little bit a

873
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 2>little bit tough. So sorry about that. Well, we want

874
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 2>to have a whole lot of time here, and we

875
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>already have a short show as it is, but we

876
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 2>are going to be talking on the other side here

877
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 2>at about four or five with the kN Spencer from

878
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.840
<v Speaker 2>WHAS eleven. Looking forward to catching up with him. So

879
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the only two teams that won in the ACC SEC

880
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Challenge from the ACC side, Clemson of course, beat Kentucky.

881
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:46.119
<v Speaker 2>You love to see it. Also, last night, Duke outlasted Auburn,

882
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and it's a weird game. I mean, it's a great

883
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>basketball game, but it was a weird game as far

884
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>as how I felt afterwards, because I still feel like

885
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Auburn is the best team in the country. That's not

886
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 2>a knock at Duke. That's a really good win and

887
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 2>they needed it because, you know, Duke had played some

888
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>good teams up been. You know, they played a lot

889
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>of good teams so far, but they hadn't they hadn't

890
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>broken through. I mean, last night they beat Auburn, who

891
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 2>I believe was number one. In fact, they still are

892
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>number one in the Knpom. And other than that, they

893
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>played two decent teams or actually, no, I'm sorry, they

894
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>played two really good teams Kentucky and Kansas and lost

895
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.239
<v Speaker 2>both those games. They're winning against Arizona doesn't look as

896
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 2>good now because Arizona's kind of been exposed as a fraud.

897
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.639
<v Speaker 2>But no, Duke winning last night was big for them,

898
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's big for the AEC because Carolina, you know,

899
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 2>they lost last night at home to Alabama, a really

900
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 2>good Alabama team. But like Carolina and Duke are gonna

901
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>be the two teams that have the best chance to

902
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 2>be really good in the ACC this year. Right, And

903
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>as I just mentioned, Duke finally got a breakthrough win.

904
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>They were competitive and they're good, but when they played

905
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>the really good teams, they came up short until their

906
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>win last night. I mean, North Carolina right now, they're

907
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.280
<v Speaker 2>four and four? Are you is your mic on?

908
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:51.159
<v Speaker 1>No?

909
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 2>It isn't. It wasn't. No, I'm hearing some like music

910
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 2>coming from somewhere. Really, I swear I'm hearing like I'm

911
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.599
<v Speaker 2>hearing the music from the you were playing on the

912
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>regioint is it still on? No, I can hear it

913
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 2>in my headphone, so something's playing. But anyways, you still

914
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.960
<v Speaker 2>hear it? Not now I did, but I don't. I

915
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 2>don't hear it as we speak, but I did until

916
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 2>you just did something. But anyways, what was the same

917
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 2>with Carolina? Yeah, they're four and four now, have lost

918
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>three in a row, and I mean, I still think

919
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Carolina deserves the benefit of the doubt as far as

920
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>being a good team. But you know, the good the

921
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>times they've played good teams they've lost. They lost to Kansas, Auburn,

922
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State, and Alabama. None of those are like are

923
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>like bad losses. But if the best of your league

924
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:41.119
<v Speaker 2>is going to play teams that are in the top

925
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>tier of the country and they're continuously losing, I mean,

926
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't even have like an elite team to prop

927
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 2>you up. Duke, I think can still be that because

928
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>they did beat Auburn last night and that's a huge win.

929
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think Duke will only get better. And I'm

930
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>starting to kind of think that John Shire might be

931
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>like a really good coach. I mean, I think we

932
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 2>all kind of don't want Duke to win. Duke's one

933
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of those programs you either are a fan for reasons

934
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I would never know, or you just kind of prefer

935
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.039
<v Speaker 2>that they lose. So that's kind of how I am.

936
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>But with Shier, you know, this will be a big

937
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 2>year for him because he does have a really talented

938
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>roster with young freshmen, and they've done a good job

939
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 2>at building in the portal with like veterans around him

940
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 2>that you don't need to go be superstars, but just

941
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 2>be experienced guys that can really mix in with your

942
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>young talent. So you know, the ACC stinks. I mean,

943
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that's I'd hate to say that, but like it's I

944
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know how you can look at anything that's happened

945
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 2>so far this season and act as if the ACC

946
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 2>is even close to as good as the SEC, the

947
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve, and maybe the Big Ten. I would say

948
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.679
<v Speaker 2>the gap between the Big Ten and the ACC is

949
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 2>not is not that big. But I think people are

950
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.159
<v Speaker 2>telling on themselves when they say, well, we'll see when

951
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 2>they get to the Elite eight later this year. Well, okay,

952
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 2>who do you think is going to make the Elite

953
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 2>eight from the ACC? Right now? From what you've seen,

954
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and I know it's early and things change. North Carolina

955
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 2>State made the final four last year. Like, I get it,

956
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>But if that's really what you're clinging to to, like

957
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.639
<v Speaker 2>try to dunk on people who were acknowledging the obvious

958
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that the ACC's fallen so far as a basketball Like,

959
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty telling us is that you're in denial.

960
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean NC State having a losing record and making

961
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the tournament because they won your conference is not the

962
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 2>flex you think it is. Give them credit. They got hot,

963
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Big Burns was working, Kevin Keats was on a roll,

964
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 2>but I mean Kenny Payne almost beat them in the

965
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 2>AEC tournament. So like, if that's what yo, will we

966
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:36.440
<v Speaker 2>put a team in the final four? There wasn't even

967
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>any good Well that speaks more so to like the

968
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 2>randomness of the tournament than it does anything else. So again,

969
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that's not where you want to be. Your conference taking

970
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 2>massive steps back. But this year, I think it could

971
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 2>be a positive for Louisville if they can be competitive

972
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>in the games against really good teams, and they haven't

973
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 2>done that yet. They got worked against Ole Miss, they

974
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 2>got blown out by Tennessee. The Bahamas was a good

975
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Speaker 2>experience all around. But when you play Duke, and you

976
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>play Carolina and you play Kentucky all by the way

977
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 2>in the next few weeks, I hope you win, but

978
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 2>man I really, more than anything, keep it competitive to

979
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.360
<v Speaker 2>where you're not gonna have your resume take a huge

980
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 2>hit and then just go beat these bad teams in

981
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the ACC and that's how you could potentially find a

982
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>patch of the tournament. But we'll see quick break, we'll

983
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 2>come back on the other side. We've got Ken Spencer

984
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 2>from WHAS eleven joining us at the top of the

985
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 2>hour here, so stick around on Sports Talk seven ninety
